Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Inkpot1965]

"See, there's two kinds of people in the world. There's Matt, and those who dig. You dig."

[jesshickman]

I can't wait to hear more about what happenend in court! :)

[neko onna]

DETAILS!!!! Please put me in the courtroom!!! DETAILS!!!!

[Larry Dixon]

Your Dad is Buckaroo Banzai?

JLK
what's the watermelon for?

"I'll tell you later."

True: I was one of the earliest members of the official BB fan club (Blue Blaze Irregular #8657, Gryphon). I also helped found the Galaxy Rangers fan club, as a side note. Anyway, we always look at Buckaroo Banzai: Across the Eighth Dimension as a documentary. And I ran prominent Banzai Institute sponsor decals on my race car.

Matt: and whoever is involved in the new legal action: I am proud of you.

[SteveForbes]

Scientific Name: Ricardus Olneyae
Common Name: The North American Comic Book Weasel
Description: As with the penguin and dodo this creature is winged but flightless, much like its hopes and dreams. It can be identified by its head of thin, balding hair - the rest has migrated to its ears, back and nipples - a distended abdomen and unique body order that it uses as a self-defense mechanism, preventing its predators from getting near enough to harm it.
Diet: An omnivore, it largely subsits on cheetos, funyuns and other artificially produced snack foods. It is a scavanger, relying on its mate and others to bring it the resources it needs.
Habitat: It can most commonly be found in its den, where it sits upon an old, soiled chair, the apholstery of which has begun to graft itself to the creature's flesh. Occasionally it ventures out to gatherings, but because of its general disposition is not a social creature.
Mating Habits: Though it has offspring and a mate, the creature prefers the hindquarters of successful men, upon which it obsesses and frequently talks about inbetween a mating dance that involves it encouraging said men to notice its own bulbous backside. As it has never successfully coupled in this way, it is unknown what the resultant offspring would be.
A photograph of Ricardus Olneyae taken by an intrepid adventurer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/DODO.gif

Now THAT is comedy!

-llama

[Papergirl]

DETAILS!!!! Please put me in the courtroom!!! DETAILS!!!!
It's not mine to tell. But the details WILL be coming soon from the one who deserves the pleasure of posting the details. Matt and I were merely witnesses to this one. :D

~Bev

[TomStillwell]

Yeah, we know that's not happening. And Brian Augustyn being one of Waid's best friends makes that an impossibility as well.

So his list of con guests is almost no one.


Gail

Chuck Satterlee sent Rick an e-mail this morning asking that his name be removed.

[SteveForbes]

I encourage ANYONE to crush...






yeah, I'm a bit lonely these days :(


Aw, stop that, or I'll give you a Lemon Crush and a Llama Hug.

-(Prince loving) llama

[Kozemp]

"I'll tell you later."

That is why Larry Dixon rocks.

Also true: 2-maybe-3 years ago I'm at a friend's house one weekend. We're looking for something to do and we see BB on the OnDemand menu on the cable. My friend has never seen it, so I force him to watch it. He of course loves it.

Afterwards I wonder why an almost 20 year old movie is still available OnDemand. I talked a couple weeks later to a friend of mine who works for the cable company and he told me it's still there because it's one of the most watched movies on the system.

That = awesome.

JLK
I play the piano, maybe sing and dance a little

[GCom]

Guess what, kiddies?


Rick had himself a VERY bad day.



You are my hero until 2:07 p.m. Eastern time today.



With Tolerance For Tight Schedules...

GCom

[JeffreyWKramer]

It's not mine to tell. But the details WILL be coming soon from the one who deserves the pleasure of posting the details. Matt and I were merely witnesses to this one. :D

~Bev

Count me as among those very much awaiting further detail.

[JTPencils]

Indeed. Drop me an e-mail.

Tom, if you don't mind, I'd like a nice read of that myself. I'll email you if that's ok.

[TomStillwell]

You betchum, Gail. And my dad too: yes, the ex-career-Delta Force commando/rock musician/race car driver 64 year old school teacher. You should see his CoH gaming rig. Huge lust. Boomslang mouse, speedpad, THX-certified Bose surround, dual 20" 4-millisecond LCDs, quad-core CPU, 2 gig of DDR3 RAM, bleeding-edge video card. And he has something like twelve level-50s now.

We miss you and Howard Porter, Gail. One of these months when you get the time we'd love to team up again.

Misty sends SUPER HUGS.

I played with Larry and his dad a few weeks ago. I can verify his greatness.

[TomStillwell]

Tom, if you don't mind, I'd like a nice read of that myself. I'll email you if that's ok.

Sure thing.

[JTPencils]

Not to mention the fact that there was no 2006 MMC.

How in the bloody hell can he send ad information for a con that never took place? Will all ads include safety warnings for the Y2K virus, since that never happened either?

Mighty MiniCon: carrying on the proud tradition of cancellation

Featuring:


the legally-embroiled Tales of the Spooky
the indeterminably-postponed line of TLE comics
the crack legal team of Dewey, Screwim & Howe
TLE's bored of committees


More guests to be rescinded later!

Free table space for Small Press Creators with no access to the internet, with a signed NDA and oath of fealty (notary public on staff).

Free rides in the Van of Justice, only $5. All proceeds donated to the Herkimer County Impound Lot.

Panels include:


Women in the Comics Industry and How to Properly Insult Them
Libel vs Slander
What Wine Goes with 'Forum Posting'?
Civil Statues: Modern Art or Mob Mentality?
I Never Said That: Misquoting for Fun and Profit
Are Reputations Really Necessary for a Successful Business?


Free programs with included script will be available for $5 before each panel for audience participation.

Guests who still plan to attend will stay at the lovely Herkimer Holiday Inn. Or the lovely Red Roof Inn. Or the lovely Motel 6. Or the nearest motel with vacancies available that evening.




Doc 'Plenty of Parking' Absurd

High road or not, that was damn funny. Does this pamphlet come complete with a cover illo?

[Tony Lee]

MARKOSIA NOT ATTENDING MEGA MINI CONVENTION

Markosia Entertainment today confirmed that as a company, they would not be attending June's Mighty Mini Con, run by TightLip Entertainment.

"We've been told that we were mentioned as guests," Tony Lee, Group Editor for Markosia said. "But the text going around the net currently is from last year and was asked to be taken down by Chuck Satterlee, our Director of Operations. We will not be at MMC." The text has consequently been removed.

Markosia apologizes to their fans but stresses that they will be back in the US in 2007 at a variety of conventions across America.

"Individual creators may still attend the Mighty Mini Con or any other event, of course. However, Markosia will not have a presence, no matter what you have heard," finished Lee.

For more information on what conventions Markosia will be attending, go to www.markosia.com.

[Blake Petit]

I was just checking up on Mike Netzer's column about Hermes press, and guess who had the gall to post a reply?

aw gee, got it in one:http://michaelnetzer.com/rEvolution/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=167&Itemid=81


and for the link impaired:


:ICK:

Good friggidy grief.

Is he not aware that Netzer and Ronee are friends? Or that Netzer now HOSTS her column on his site?

[Lester C.]

May I just say that I am madly in love with the judge? She ROCKED! I damn near jumped up and down with joy when she made her pronouncement!

~Bev
Hey, Dick! You should have been there! I was!

You do know that all judges are ninjas right? Each and everyone is a robed assassin that deals justice to those that would prey on the innocent.

[JTPencils]

Guess what, kiddies?


Rick had himself a VERY bad day.


I am going to let the person who did the action post details later today, but here is what I can say about it now.

I went to court today to watch Rick lose. And he did.

Of course, Rick did not show. I guess being served with a subpoena means nothing to Rick Olney's "legal team". Or maybe Rick was out of formal wear. I just don't know.

Anyhow, when you skip court cases, bad things happen to you.

Rick, you will be getting more paperwork in the mail.

I am so happy I am skipping my anti-depressant today.

I LOVE our court system

Rick lost...BIG TIME!

And again, his deleted address and phone number for more subpoena fun!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg

"I did? What bad day? What paperwork? I didn't get anything? I was never served... I lost? Matthrew you sunuva... uh... I'm drunk."

[Larry Dixon]

Free rides in the Van of Justice, only $5. All proceeds donated to the Herkimer County Impound Lot.

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Amidst sterling comedy, that stands as the best freakin' line of the day. That's tight.

[Papergirl]

You do know that all judges are ninjas right? Each and everyone is a robed assassin that deals justice to those that would prey on the innocent.
Which is why it is huge news for me to be madly in love with a judge.

Us pirates generally hate lawyers and judges! :D

~Bev

[JTPencils]

Damn. That news is better than a free Chinese buffet.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm Chinese buffet!! Damn you Reb, you went and made my lunch choice for me now. There goes the diet!!!

[Corrina]

If you've been properly served papers that require you to appear in court and you don't?

Judges get very, very unhappy with you.

And, yes, I would love further details.

[Blake Petit]

Oh man, I am SO waiting for the details...

[Lester C.]

If you've been properly served papers that require you to appear in court and you don't?

Judges get very, very unhappy with you.

And, yes, I would love further details.

The words defalut judgement ring a bell.

[WhiteRose]

Dammit, who do we have to kill to get some details around here! :p

What happened! Who do we have to wait for!

[Danny Donovan]

I swear, you people move damn fast.

I go to the grocery store for an hour and a half and when I get back there's already 2 pages of material and NEWS.

Matt, Bev, I can't wait to hear this interesting tale. Oddly enough it was a question I asked Tom last night via e-mail... Looks like I got my answer about what happens when one doesn't show x 2. ;)

Oddly enough, there was a post on the Grim group, where Rick made mention of MMC this morning. I am not going to repost it, as it'd be against the rules. But it came as early as 9:30 this morning.

So it's not as if Rick overslept and forgot to show. He just didn't.

[TomStillwell]

Free rides in the Van of Justice, only $5. All proceeds donated to the Herkimer County Impound Lot.

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Amidst sterling comedy, that stands as the best freakin' line of the day. That's tight.

It doesn't even mention the complimentary in-van snack of nutritious government cheese.

[Typo Lad]

So it's not as if Rick overslept and forgot to show. He just didn't.

Well, i understand there's a distance issue involved.

[bluecove]

Post deleted.

[JTPencils]

It doesn't even mention the complimentary in-van snack of nutritious government cheese.

Don't forget the souvenir "car odorizer" you get upon exiting the Van of Justice. Guaranteed to make your car "reek" in mere moments.

[KevinTBrown]

"I did? What bad day? What paperwork? I didn't get anything? I was never served... I lost? Matthrew you sunuva... uh... I'm drunk."

ROFL!

I actually had to scroll up to make sure that it wasn't Olney posting that!!

[Stressfactor]

Well, i understand there's a distance issue involved.

Even if there is a distance issue and you could prove financial inability to buy a plane, train, or bus ticket or pay for gas OR that you could not get away from work for the day I THINK (Some legal expert can correct me) there are systems in place for a proxy or a representative to stand in for said person.

Of course, all of those things involve (I believe) contacting the court and working the matter out. Kind of like Jury Duty -- you can get out of it but you've got to provide reasons WHY you CANNOT show up... you can't just NOT SHOW UP.

[JTPencils]

ROFL!

I actually had to scroll up to make sure that it wasn't Olney posting that!!

Gads that's scary. Don't tell me I can now mimic his poorly written grammar!

"If you look closely, you'll notice it's in his own handwriting, including grammar and syntax" - Jim Carrey's "Edward Nigma"

[KevinTBrown]

It's not mine to tell. But the details WILL be coming soon from the one who deserves the pleasure of posting the details. Matt and I were merely witnesses to this one. :D

~Bev

Anticipa--



































--tion!

[SteveForbes]

Steve, you're a better llama.. uh, man than I am.

When he went on his native american tangents, I got angry. Being a proud descendent of the Cherokee tribe, I was incensed that a person could be so warped to the world that they would honestly try to marginalize some of the worst instances of humanity, the subjectation of any native peoples.

I am honored to see you take the high road, and meant not offense mentioning you in that post, I just thought how absolutely asinine of him to not only wrongly accuse Guapo of being an illegal immigrant (unless he's really a citizen of China living illegally in Mexico, that's not possible) and make such a negative blanket statement on anyone who has a heritage different than himself.

Jim (Ritchey) and I have had this discussion time and time again, be it an ijit like Rick (oh dear Sarah's a bad influence) or a person who's either the smartest man alive (to create controversy to keep from becoming irrelevent to newer generations) or just a plain old well... bigot such as some that could be named....

It gets my dander up to see supposedly intelligent (at least this is what they want us to believe) people acting so idiotic.

Anyway, kudos to you for being an awesome person. I hope you get caught up in the thread, some interesting things said in that mess.

I'm sure it'll be up on unscrewed soon enough.


Thanks, Danny. I appreciate it.

I'm just about 4 pages behind now, and THEN I have to run out. (Trying to get a job so bill paying becomes that much easier.) Anyway, here's what I have to say.

Sure, YOR's a bigot. However, he's an impotent bigot. Being Black, and stepping outside of your neighborhood and into corporate America, it's something I've learned to have a thick skin about. Like the sailor says, "I yam what I yam," and there's no changing it.

Bigotry is stupid, however, we all make generalizations based on race, creed, sex, and sexual orientation. It's part of the American makeup, methinks. I'm not saying that it's fair, I'm just saying that it's there.

Personally, I look at people and judge them on their personalities, when I can. Sometimes, their personalities are shown strongly on their face. Other times, it's hidden deep down inside. I try to give everyone a fair shake, because in my experience, not everyone is GIVEN a fair shake.

I don't know if that makes me a better person, or something that's shaped me because of the "black experience" that is called my life.

I remember the first time I came face to face with bigotry. I was in high school, playing football. I was playing half-back. (Yes, I was a skinny kid, but I was fast- how they equated that with the ability to go up the middle is beyond me, but anyway.) We were scrimmaging this other team during the school week, getting ready for our game on Sat. So, the play was called, and I went up the middle. I got tackled, gaining a couple of yards, and as I went down, the guy that tackled me said, "Stay down, Darkie," or something like that.

The next play, I ran up the middle, found a nice hole, and scored a touchdown.

Now, to this day, nothing bothers me more than that memory. I'm only 33, and I haven't come across a LOT of this kind of thing, but the reason it bothers me is because we were all so YOUNG. Bigotry when you're young- there's something wrong there. I've never understood it, and I don't think I ever will.

My father always told me that adversity builds strength of character. He's also the man who told me that if I ever did drugs (crack was HUGE at the time), that he would kill me. And I never doubted him about that.

My father, to me, is an example of what a man should be. I can only follow his example, as well as my own heart. According to others, he's done things right, because I've been told that I'm one of the nicest, most mellow black guys that people know.

So, thanks for the words, Danny. I'll be sure to pass them on to my father.

-llama

[Danny Donovan]

Well, i understand there's a distance issue involved.


Woops. I got the wrong date. Yes this one was filed in Florida. My bad. For some reason I thought it was a different one, and Matt and Bev flew in for it.

:)

My apologies! They are all hard to keep track of, we need a program!

[Larry Dixon]

Damn it! I am sad for Matt Doc and PeeGee. They didn't get to see that snappy Marine Dress Uniform under the bright courtroom lights!

[JTPencils]

Even if there is a distance issue and you could prove financial inability to buy a plane, train, or bus ticket or pay for gas OR that you could not get away from work for the day I THINK (Some legal expert can correct me) there are systems in place for a proxy or a representative to stand in for said person.

Of course, all of those things involve (I believe) contacting the court and working the matter out. Kind of like Jury Duty -- you can get out of it but you've got to provide reasons WHY you CANNOT show up... you can't just NOT SHOW UP.

I know from personal experience, in regards to a small claims case, that the judge (in CT) allowed the business we (my ex and I) were facing (in FL), conduct the case by speaker phone. So distance issues can be resolved... but you have to first be willing to ADMIT that you've even been served.

[Larry Dixon]

Anticipa--










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--tion!

[TomStillwell]

Well, i understand there's a distance issue involved.

There's also the whole dodging service issue involved.

[Linkara]

Which is why it is huge news for me to be madly in love with a judge.

Us pirates generally hate lawyers and judges! :D

~Bev

Woot! Pirate party in celebration!

[Danny Donovan]

Anticipa--

























....SAY IT!









--tion!

[Danny Donovan]

Damn you Larry, if I didn't think you walked on water I'd be annoyed you stepped on my line!

[Danny Donovan]

So, thanks for the words, Danny. I'll be sure to pass them on to my father.

-llama

Your dad has a lot to be proud of.

I'm honored to know you Steve.

[Charles RB]

Of course, Rick did not show. I guess being served with a subpoena means nothing to Rick Olney's "legal team".

Is he deliberately trying to fuck up?

[Inkpot1965]

Anticipation? Why do I keep flashing back to a certain ketchup commercial?

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Well, everybody needs a hobby. Rick's goal is to be the Dr. Doom of the comic industry.

We're talking the twisted toyfare Dr. Doom right? Or is it the Twisted Toyfare Iron Man?

JP

[Typo Lad]

There's also the whole dodging service issue involved.

Oh I'm not saying it puts him in the clear in any way. Just saying this wasn't a local thing.

Which will probably be the excuse he brings.

[NatGertler]

The text has consequently been removed.Indeed it has. But the text which is there now states that the guest list wil be posted April 15th... and then makes the curious statement that no new guests will be added after that date. More than two months before the convention, they will be certain that there won't be any changes to their guest roster worth noting? (Not that I doubt it, mind you; I strongly suspect that the lack of guests already displayed accurately reflects what will happen at the "con".)

[Danny Donovan]

On a side note re: Doom. I think that's rediculous that Doom refered to himself as "Dr." just because he saw Reed Richards refered to as such on TV. While he is petty, he's never above board petty.

He always has these grand schemes and ideas that stem from being jealous of Richard's success and smarts. But never out and out. "Reed's better than me dammit I'm gonna take over the world."

Now being that he is a ruler of Latveria, I would say he would claim an honorary doctorate from an esteemed university in Latveria.

I miss Mark Waid's Fantastic Four.

lol.

[NatGertler]

Now, to this day, nothing bothers me more than that memory. I'm only 33, and I haven't come across a LOT of this kind of thing, but the reason it bothers me is because we were all so YOUNG. Bigotry when you're young- there's something wrong there. I've never understood it, and I don't think I ever will.People can get so indoctrinated before they enter the reality to build their beliefs around.
I grew up in a town of 3000 people; I believe there were only two black families in town (and to give context: no, not mine.)
One day, I was in the park... probably for the games there after the 4th Of July parade. I was probably about 10. And there were a couple of white kids, brothers, one maybe 7 and the younger one 5. The younger one did something clumsy, and the older one laughed at him and started chanting "Send him back to Africa! Send him back to Africa!"
Now, I recognized immediately that the kids didn't know what that really meant, that this was just obnoxious big brother taunting. But if their dad had been there, you would've seen a scrawny 10 year old with no fighting skills doing whatever he could to damage that particular adult. I could see in my mind's eye just how they got indoctrinated with that phrase, and how easy and how horrible it was.

[Charles RB]

I miss Mark Waid's Fantastic Four.


So do the Latverians - they'd finally got rid of Doom and everything!

[TomStillwell]

Oh I'm not saying it puts him in the clear in any way. Just saying this wasn't a local thing.

Which will probably be the excuse he brings.

I'm sure for once Rick will tell the truth and say he wasn't served any papers. However, he won't admit that he actively dodged service either.

He seems to think that if he's not served then no legal action takes place.

[Typo Lad]

Do we have actual evidence that he dodged service?

[Gail Simone]

Do we have actual evidence that he dodged service?

Not that I'm aware of.

Gail

[Typo Lad]

Then maybe we should not make that claim.

Just sayin'.

Also... Very interested to know more about the court case. Also the earlier one resulting in alleged garnishment. I eagerly await evidence that will put the final nails in, so to speak.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I so wanna hear this. Why keep us all in anticpation Matt and Bev ? Surely you can't see were dyin to know . I wonder if it will be as wild as I picture it. I can dream can't I ?:)

[TomStillwell]

Do we have actual evidence that he dodged service?

Well, in his own words he says he wasn't served any papers. Yet we now know of two court dates which he didn't attend.

No one accidentially misses out on being served. It's not like they give up after one unanswered knock at the door.

A normal person going about their daily lives will be served.

So no, we don't have evidence that he dodged service. We are, however, able to draw logical conclusions given the facts.

[Typo Lad]

Occam's razor suggest that it is far more likely that Mr. Olney is simply not telling the truth about being served.

[Kalen O.]

Wow, just spent an hour reading this thread, and that was skimming to get the gist of things. Think I got it now though. One thing that keeps sticking out at me though so maybe someone can help me out here....

What's with Rick's insistence on putting Gail's name in quotes every single times he mentions her? Is it supposed to imply that Gail Simone is not in fact her real name, but some sort of pen name?

If so....umm...are we supposed to care?

- Kalen, who is very confused by the man's priorities

[Linkara]

Wow, just spent an hour reading this thread, and that was skimming to get the gist of things. Think I got it now though. One thing that keeps sticking out at me though so maybe someone can help me out here....

What's with Rick's insistence on putting Gail's name in quotes every single times he mentions her? Is it supposed to imply that Gail Simone is not in fact her real name, but some sort of pen name?

If so....umm...are we supposed to care?

- Kalen, who is very confused by the man's priorities

Gail Simone IS her pen name. ^_~ But Ricky apparently doesn't understand that many in the industry do use a pen name and so he puts it in quotes as if it's supposed to be demeaning to her or makes her any less truthful.

[Kalen O.]

So its true! This "Gail" person has been lying to us about her name all this time!?! How dare she keep her real name from the scrutiny of the public eye and prance about with some smart-sounding pseudonym? The utter gall of the woman! If she's even really a woman...

Sheesh. Forget the guy's business practices, I'm disappointed in him just on the strength of his arguments.

[TomStillwell]

Occam's razor suggest that it is far more likely that Mr. Olney is simply not telling the truth about being served.

Not remotely.

Rick has established a pattern already of ducking those trying to contact him about different issues.

Remember Jen Joy from St. Jude's? She tried to contact him and has yet to do so. She left messages for him. He claims she never tried to contact him.

[Danny Donovan]

Wow, just spent an hour reading this thread, and that was skimming to get the gist of things. Think I got it now though. One thing that keeps sticking out at me though so maybe someone can help me out here....

What's with Rick's insistence on putting Gail's name in quotes every single times he mentions her? Is it supposed to imply that Gail Simone is not in fact her real name, but some sort of pen name?

If so....umm...are we supposed to care?

- Kalen, who is very confused by the man's priorities


He claims that due to the fact that Gail Simmone is a pen name (which authors have used since the invention of the printing press) that she is in fact a "non-person" and thus has concocted this name to avoid being served with legal papers.

Of course if Rick knew anything, you can request any information, including real name, if you do sue them so they will appear in court. Lots of Actors/Authors/Wrestlers (that one was for you ECWSuperfan) have had court documents which listed their working professional name ALONG WITH their full legal name.

So the idea of you can't sue a pen name is fraudulent. He can't sue Gail not because "Gail" isn't her real name (actually I do believe Gail is her legal middle name) but because she hasn't done anything she could be sued for.

Also, Rick does know her full legal name because he in fact worked with her and her husband bringing them down for his stupid convention in '03 or whatever.

And pen-name or not it is not that hard to obtain someone's legal identity through proper channels. It's a matter of Rick trying to spin the idea he's being "persecuted" by people who are "hiding from him"

But yeah, it's all about the fact she writes under a psuedonym.

[Typo Lad]

Tom,

Point, good sir. I had forgotten about that aspect.

Still, dodging service is a lot harder than dodging a phonecall.

[Coppervale Studio]

Hey Tom -

I didn't forget - I got some nifty keen stuff sent to you for the auction.

I'd have said so in a private email, but I'm still pissed about the cheap shots taken at my pal Tony... and so wanted to make sure my name, and expression of support, and contribution to help out were quite public.

James A. Owen

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Wow, just spent an hour reading this thread, and that was skimming to get the gist of things. Think I got it now though. One thing that keeps sticking out at me though so maybe someone can help me out here....

What's with Rick's insistence on putting Gail's name in quotes every single times he mentions her? Is it supposed to imply that Gail Simone is not in fact her real name, but some sort of pen name?

If so....umm...are we supposed to care?

- Kalen, who is very confused by the man's priorities

Funniest most bizzare arguement Rick has presented:

- Since Gail Simone is a pen name and doesn't exist he shouldn't have to pay Mr.Simone's airfare.


Talk about really departing reality to try and win this.

[TomStillwell]

Hey Tom -

I didn't forget - I got some nifty keen stuff sent to you for the auction.

I'd have said so in a private email, but I'm still pissed about the cheap shots taken at my pal Tony... and so wanted to make sure my name, and expression of support, and contribution to help out were quite public.

James A. Owen

Thanks James!

By the way folks, that auction will be starting up any day now. The first wave of items are neato torpedo!

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Thanks, Danny. I appreciate it.

I'm just about 4 pages behind now, and THEN I have to run out. (Trying to get a job so bill paying becomes that much easier.) Anyway, here's what I have to say.

Sure, YOR's a bigot. However, he's an impotent bigot. Being Black, and stepping outside of your neighborhood and into corporate America, it's something I've learned to have a thick skin about. Like the sailor says, "I yam what I yam," and there's no changing it.

Bigotry is stupid, however, we all make generalizations based on race, creed, sex, and sexual orientation. It's part of the American makeup, methinks. I'm not saying that it's fair, I'm just saying that it's there.

Personally, I look at people and judge them on their personalities, when I can. Sometimes, their personalities are shown strongly on their face. Other times, it's hidden deep down inside. I try to give everyone a fair shake, because in my experience, not everyone is GIVEN a fair shake.

I don't know if that makes me a better person, or something that's shaped me because of the "black experience" that is called my life.

I remember the first time I came face to face with bigotry. I was in high school, playing football. I was playing half-back. (Yes, I was a skinny kid, but I was fast- how they equated that with the ability to go up the middle is beyond me, but anyway.) We were scrimmaging this other team during the school week, getting ready for our game on Sat. So, the play was called, and I went up the middle. I got tackled, gaining a couple of yards, and as I went down, the guy that tackled me said, "Stay down, Darkie," or something like that.

The next play, I ran up the middle, found a nice hole, and scored a touchdown.

Now, to this day, nothing bothers me more than that memory. I'm only 33, and I haven't come across a LOT of this kind of thing, but the reason it bothers me is because we were all so YOUNG. Bigotry when you're young- there's something wrong there. I've never understood it, and I don't think I ever will.

My father always told me that adversity builds strength of character. He's also the man who told me that if I ever did drugs (crack was HUGE at the time), that he would kill me. And I never doubted him about that.

My father, to me, is an example of what a man should be. I can only follow his example, as well as my own heart. According to others, he's done things right, because I've been told that I'm one of the nicest, most mellow black guys that people know.

So, thanks for the words, Danny. I'll be sure to pass them on to my father.

-llama


Sorry you had to experience that sort of thing, Steve. But I do know it is still par for the course. Mores the pity. As for the bigoted player you dealt with. Remember that bigotry can be a learned process for those who have trouble thinking for themselves. I promise you that his father or mother or some influental person was bigoted as well. Thankfully little by little this sick carousel is breaking down.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Your dad has a lot to be proud of.

I'm honored to know you Steve.

Ditto. I should have said as much in my reply.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Anticipation? Why do I keep flashing back to a certain ketchup commercial?

I was the same way until way back when I learned that it was a Carly Simon song. And then I saw her sing it. *sigh* :p

[Hybrid2]

You guys is still playing CoH?

Gail

Yes.And your not.:mad:

But all those comics are a good excuses.i gess.

[Hybrid2]

You betchum, Gail. And my dad too: yes, the ex-career-Delta Force commando/rock musician/race car driver 64 year old school teacher. You should see his CoH gaming rig. Huge lust. Boomslang mouse, speedpad, THX-certified Bose surround, dual 20" 4-millisecond LCDs, quad-core CPU, 2 gig of DDR3 RAM, bleeding-edge video card. And he has something like twelve level-50s now.

We miss you and Howard Porter, Gail. One of these months when you get the time we'd love to team up again.

Misty sends SUPER HUGS.

And also play with broken bones.

Nothing stop him!

Delta force comando,Race car drive, school teacher? O_O woah.
Like dangerous jobs.

[Danny Donovan]

*sigh*

Rick posted an essay he supposedly wrote on fandom, although all it was was a long diatribe about ORCA.

self promotion and editorials are seperate things.

:p

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

where'd he "write" this?

JP

[SUPERECWFAN1]

*sigh*

Rick posted an essay he supposedly wrote on fandom, although all it was was a long diatribe about ORCA.

self promotion and editorials are seperate things.

:p

If someone will post I'd love to read it. But I hope to god it has paragraph breaks and all. I hate reading stuff thats all jumbled up like shit.

[Matt Doc Martin]

And again, his deleted address and phone number for more subpoena fun!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg
Just wanted to share this information that is readily available but I am a fan of convenience.
You are my hero until 2:07 p.m. Eastern time today.



With Tolerance For Tight Schedules...

GCom

Phew. Got back JUST IN TIME. Unlike one Richard Olney.

"I did? What bad day? What paperwork? I didn't get anything? I was never served... I lost? Matthrew you sunuva... uh... I'm drunk."
The funny thing about the court system...they only move forward when they know both parties are aware. Rick WAS served, and he lied when he said he wasn't. When he was served, he dissolved TLE. He also contacted the party to try to wiggle out of it and failed.

Rick, you are a liar. Make sure you note this.
Damn it! I am sad for Matt Doc and PeeGee. They didn't get to see that snappy Marine Dress Uniform under the bright courtroom lights!

Or his sweat stained t-shirt and bad haircut. Sadly, for every overweight balding man that came by, none were Rick. We made it a game of sorts. "Nope! Not Rick!" And I am guessing that if he still has his dress uniform, it long ago stopped fitting.

Is he deliberately trying to fuck up?

Ignoring a subpoena, guaranteeing that the judge will rule against you?

Mark that as a big "Yes"

I'm sure for once Rick will tell the truth and say he wasn't served any papers. However, he won't admit that he actively dodged service either.

He seems to think that if he's not served then no legal action takes place.


Actually, that would be another Rick lie. See my response to JTpencils.

He was served, the sheriff's office in Herkimer has proof, and Rick can call THEM liars if he chooses. Or, as we all know, we can call Rick on his bullshit yet again.

I will go to any trial I can get to even if Rick doesn't. I love seeing him lose that much.

I just hope that the party today goes after Barbara as well, as she was part of TLE and therefore liable for the damages Rick incurred today.


And they are substantial...and growing.

[Typo Lad]

Occam's razor for the win!

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/valentine038.jpg

Me at the Pasco County courthouse, Happy Meal in hand!

As I am still holding bag, Rick was listed as an FTA.

YOU LOSE, RICK!

[KevinTBrown]

Still (im)patiently waiting to see the news and who it helped. :)

[KevinTBrown]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/valentine038.jpg

Me at the Pasco County courthouse, Happy Meal in hand!

As I am still holding bag, Rick was listed as an FTA.

YOU LOSE, RICK!

BWA-HA-HA-HA!!!!

That's frikkin' classic!!!!! :p

[Kozemp]

I hate to say this, Matt, but the tie clip really decreases the badass factor.

JLK
tie clips are a no-no

[Typo Lad]

Please define "FTA"?

Failure to Appear?

[Danny Donovan]

where'd he "write" this?

JP

The Grim One yahoo group

If someone will post I'd love to read it. But I hope to god it has paragraph breaks and all. I hate reading stuff thats all jumbled up like shit.


I would, but posting exerpts of messages from the group elsewhere is a violation of the rules and unlike some, I adhere to the rules I'm given.

If Jim runs it you can read it in his next 'zine. :)

[Kozemp]

Please define "FTA"?

Failure to Appear?

Failed to Appear, yep.

JLK
FTA

[Matt Doc Martin]

I hate to say this, Matt, but the tie clip really decreases the badass factor.

JLK
tie clips are a no-no

But it was windy?


And I can totally stab people in the eye with it!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/valentine038.jpg

Me at the Pasco County courthouse, Happy Meal in hand!

As I am still holding bag, Rick was listed as an FTA.

YOU LOSE, RICK!

Have you had your break today ? :p

[DocAbsurd]

That was on Jim's group. Jim's having problems with his internet connection so I doubt he's seen it yet. Besides which, Jim doesn't encourage letting articles be seen before publication; that's why he publishes physical copies.

But Olney just needed to get the word out, doncha know. The clamor musta been overwhelming. I mean, that's one whole person who's been wondering what happen to ORCA over the past 4 years.

He's even bragging about that 'magic whale' story and a new site for ORCA.

He really is gonna be busy, fulfilling all these new promises and breaking children's hearts when he can't keep 'em.

He has a line in there about how if you can't appreciate a story about an imaginary talking and flying magic killer whale (Hero Bear, where are you?) then you're not really cut out to be writing stories for children. Y'know, I've got 2 children meself; they love sci-fi and magic and super heroes and animals of all sorts. Somehow, I just don't see them flocking to a bad spin on an already well-executed concept.

Maybe my Things aren't cut out to be reading stories written for children.




Doc 'Here, Fishy Fishy Fishy!' Absurd

[Coppervale Studio]

You guys realize the FTA was probably OUR fault, right?

The legal team was prolly so overwhelmed in just keeping up with researching this thread that not one of them was able to actually make the court date.

It's tragic when even your imaginary counsel is crappy.

[GCom]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/valentine038.jpg



Great googly moogly... that's funny!


With Tolerance For "Hey Keith Giffen... You See This?"...

GCom

[Danny Donovan]

You guys realize the FTA was probably OUR fault, right?

The legal team was prolly so overwhelmed in just keeping up with researching this thread that not one of them was able to actually make the court date.

It's tragic when even your imaginary counsel is crappy.

Or worse. They read all those unintelligible posts Rick made, it hurt their head so much they had to check themselves into a psychiatric hospital after realizing whom they had to defend.... :p

[websbestcomics]

Just letting everyone know that I have won a lawsuit this morning that was filed against Rick Olney dba Tightlip Entertainment. Olney did not heed the court summons that was delivered to him by the Herkimer Sheriffs dept on January 11, 2007, resulting in a win today by default of his no-show in court.

For those unaware of my case, I sued Rick for 2 unpaid invoices totaling over $2,400.00. Rick acknowledged and then attempted to avoid responsibility to these debts. I made every attempt to settle the matter with him outside of court, to no avail. He paid my efforts with insults, public defamation of character, lies, accusations and threats.

I won't be publicly responding here about this, beyond this post. The reason for this is that I have already invested quite a few hours over the last several months in dealing with him via email, and monitoring his online activity in this and other forums. The stress this has caused me and my family cannot be understated. I simply want to move forward at this point and pursue collecting the debt now that the trial is over.

Filing a lawsuit in small claims court is easy. For those who are in a similar situation, but hesitate to take action, just call your local county clerks office and ask for the forms needed to file a small claims lawsuit. Some places even have online forms. You won't need legal representation. The filing fee was $155.00 in my case, but it will likely vary state by state, and according to the amount you are suing for. In the state of Florida, I was able to file the lawsuit here, because this is the state where the services were rendered. I then had the Herkimer County Sheriffs office deliver the summons to Olney, which cost $25.00.

The only challenging aspect of this was in preparing evidence for the judge. I had several months worth of evidence, in the form of emails which had to be organized and printed out, (and the work itself, in the form of original art and digital files) and then quite a lot of work was involved in preparing my case. I also had to print out and organize all of the original art created for Olney, along with printed copies of the site design and associated graphics.

Without Mark Waid's generosity, it would have likely taken me far longer to actually file the lawsuit. Although I had my paperwork ready, I was still scrambling to make up for the loss of income, and each time I was sure I was ready to file, some bill would take precedence. I am a full-time freelancer, so when a client doesn't pay for a big project, I'm suddenly in a lot of trouble, because I had to turn down other paying work in order to meet his deadlines.

If you were Olney'd, and have more questions about the filing process, please PM me. I'm happy to help out however I can.

Lastly, thanks to Matt Martin and Papergirl, for driving up to show their support this morning.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Its awesome you won and beat Rick at his own ballgame. Now Rick...do you honestly feel safe claiming the NDA's protect you ? Do you honestly feel that once this breaks a floodgate will open ?

You brought this on yourself. I know your reading this and you know you missed a court date. I wonder if the Judge was angry ?

[NatGertler]

Just letting everyone know that I have won a lawsuit this morning that was filed against Rick Olney dba Tightlip Entertainment.I realize you won't be responding, but I hope you do soak in a few "yays!", including this one from me. And not only "yay", but "thank you." Every time a freelancer stands up to this sort of abuse, it makes it harder for publishers (and would-be publishers) to pull it the next time.

So well done. I'm sorry you had to go through this, of course, and hope that things go swimmingly for you as you move on.

(And, of course, a separate but related huzzah for Mr. Waid.)

[Typo Lad]

I am glad that you have had justice done, sir.

A big salute to Mark Waid as well.

[Stressfactor]

Allow me to cyber-shake your hand and wish you a hearty congratulations! I may have no stake in this beyond lurking but I hate injustice in all its forms and today.... justice was served!

Also, to let you know that, because of my lurking, I've been checking out your Champions of a Lost Universe webcomic and loving it! Glad to hear that you can now move forward, collect what is owed you, and get back to the job of producing awesome comics work!

Also, to add to the praise of Mark Waid... all around awesome guy!

[LomiMonet]

The first battle won.
In Mohawk anus puckers.
The end has begun.

[JeffreyWKramer]

I am glad that you have had justice done, sir.

A big salute to Mark Waid as well.

What Typo said, on both counts.

[KevinTBrown]

Scott, that is awesome! Congrats on the win!



I now "eagerly" await the Olney to show to say that this is a lie. :D

[GCom]

Congratulations on your win!


Just letting everyone know that I have won a lawsuit this morning that was filed against Rick Olney dba Tightlip Entertainment.

Wait...DBA? "Doing Business As..."? Not Incorporated? Ah,...

Well, isn't that going to be interesting later.
I'm certain that was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I missed that somehow.
>smiles<



With Tolerance For Where The Bill And Blame Rests Forever...

GCom

[Kozemp]

Scott Reed, Mark Waid, and the courts, FTW.

Nice work, man.

JLK
is it the van of injustice now?

[Kurt Busiek]

The first battle won.
In Mohawk anus puckers.
The end has begun.

That was apparently the second judgment against Rick in the last week or so, just the first where the winner's posted here.

So congrats to Scott, congrats to the other winner, and a big waytogo to Mark Waid.

Rick professes not to understand why comics freelancers and fans would see it as their business when a publisher cheats and defrauds talent. It's called "community."

And there's more coming...

kdb

[Danny Donovan]

Congrats Scott!!!!!!!!!

lol. You rock.

I bet Rick makes a post stating "I didn't lose! I never lose! the judge is just out to get me! Sock puppet "legal minds" who don't know the first thing about civil law, I never broke the law I AM THE LAW!"

[Kozemp]

But it was windy?


And I can totally stab people in the eye with it!

True badasses let their ties flap in the wind. It's more badass when the tie itself takes out someone's eye.

JLK
true badass

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Just letting everyone know that I have won a lawsuit this morning that was filed against Rick Olney dba Tightlip Entertainment.

Congratulations, Mr. Reed. Kudos to you and Mr. Waid.

One down and many more to come I am certain.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

That was apparently the second judgment against Rick in the last week or so, just the first where the winner's posted here.

So congrats to Scott, congrats to the other winner, and a big waytogo to Mark Waid.

Rick professes not to understand why comics freelancers and fans would see it as their business when a publisher cheats and defrauds talent. It's called "community."

And there's more coming...

kdb



Good point. TWO down and many more to come I am certain.

Cheats and defrauders count on people not sticking together and helping each other. It enrages them.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/valentine038.jpg

Me at the Pasco County courthouse, Happy Meal in hand!

As I am still holding bag, Rick was listed as an FTA.

YOU LOSE, RICK!

You're my hero. I'm going to smile for the rest of the day.

JP

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Just letting everyone know that I have won a lawsuit this morning that was filed against Rick Olney dba Tightlip Entertainment. Olney did not heed the court summons that was delivered to him by the Herkimer Sheriffs dept on January 11, 2007, resulting in a win today by default of his no-show in court.

For those unaware of my case, I sued Rick for 2 unpaid invoices totaling over $2,400.00. Rick acknowledged and then attempted to avoid responsibility to these debts. I made every attempt to settle the matter with him outside of court, to no avail. He paid my efforts with insults, public defamation of character, lies, accusations and threats.

I won't be publicly responding here about this, beyond this post. The reason for this is that I have already invested quite a few hours over the last several months in dealing with him via email, and monitoring his online activity in this and other forums. The stress this has caused me and my family cannot be understated. I simply want to move forward at this point and pursue collecting the debt now that the trial is over.

Filing a lawsuit in small claims court is easy. For those who are in a similar situation, but hesitate to take action, just call your local county clerks office and ask for the forms needed to file a small claims lawsuit. Some places even have online forms. You won't need legal representation. The filing fee was $155.00 in my case, but it will likely vary state by state, and according to the amount you are suing for. In the state of Florida, I was able to file the lawsuit here, because this is the state where the services were rendered. I then had the Herkimer County Sheriffs office deliver the summons to Olney, which cost $25.00.

The only challenging aspect of this was in preparing evidence for the judge. I had several months worth of evidence, in the form of emails which had to be organized and printed out, (and the work itself, in the form of original art and digital files) and then quite a lot of work was involved in preparing my case. I also had to print out and organize all of the original art created for Olney, along with printed copies of the site design and associated graphics.

Without Mark Waid's generosity, it would have likely taken me far longer to actually file the lawsuit. Although I had my paperwork ready, I was still scrambling to make up for the loss of income, and each time I was sure I was ready to file, some bill would take precedence. I am a full-time freelancer, so when a client doesn't pay for a big project, I'm suddenly in a lot of trouble, because I had to turn down other paying work in order to meet his deadlines.

If you were Olney'd, and have more questions about the filing process, please PM me. I'm happy to help out however I can.

Lastly, thanks to Matt Martin and Papergirl, for driving up to show their support this morning.

Congratulations.

JP

[Sarah Beach]

Scott, I am so pleased for you with this legal victory!

I hope you are equally successful in the harder task of actually prying the money out of his tightly clenched fists!

And again, Mark Waid rocks for providing the financial assistance, and the emotional inspiration, for Scott and others to actually put the weasel into a legal cage at long last!

A very satisfying turn for the day!

[wishlish]

The funny thing about the court system...they only move forward when they know both parties are aware. Rick WAS served, and he lied when he said he wasn't. When he was served, he dissolved TLE. He also contacted the party to try to wiggle out of it and failed.


Silly question:
Did anyone try to serve Mrs. Olney? After all, she's the one with the money, and she was co-owner of TLE when the contracts were made. She has a 9-to-5; how hard can it be to serve her?

[IvanJim]

I wonder what the procedure for collecting a small court judgement is in both New York and Florida. In California it's rather difficult to do so, as the court doesn't provide a direct mechanism, but not impossible. Does the court that decided this case have an enforcement arm?

[Showman]

That's awesome. Congrats on the win and kudos for Mark Waid for stepping up and helping out.



Now I wish you good luck on collecting.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Silly question:
Did anyone try to serve Mrs. Olney? After all, she's the one with the money, and she was co-owner of TLE when the contracts were made. She has a 9-to-5; how hard can it be to serve her?

Whats really scary in a way is she may have no clue all this is happening beyond Rick dissolving the business. That things are going about and Rick maybe telling her he's working on settling things. She maybe so busy with her work she has no clue at all about this latest court battle.

[wishlish]

Just letting everyone know that I have won a lawsuit this morning that was filed against Rick Olney dba Tightlip Entertainment. Olney did not heed the court summons that was delivered to him by the Herkimer Sheriffs dept on January 11, 2007, resulting in a win today by default of his no-show in court.

For those unaware of my case, I sued Rick for 2 unpaid invoices totaling over $2,400.00. Rick acknowledged and then attempted to avoid responsibility to these debts. I made every attempt to settle the matter with him outside of court, to no avail. He paid my efforts with insults, public defamation of character, lies, accusations and threats.

I won't be publicly responding here about this, beyond this post. The reason for this is that I have already invested quite a few hours over the last several months in dealing with him via email, and monitoring his online activity in this and other forums. The stress this has caused me and my family cannot be understated. I simply want to move forward at this point and pursue collecting the debt now that the trial is over.

Filing a lawsuit in small claims court is easy. For those who are in a similar situation, but hesitate to take action, just call your local county clerks office and ask for the forms needed to file a small claims lawsuit. Some places even have online forms. You won't need legal representation. The filing fee was $155.00 in my case, but it will likely vary state by state, and according to the amount you are suing for. In the state of Florida, I was able to file the lawsuit here, because this is the state where the services were rendered. I then had the Herkimer County Sheriffs office deliver the summons to Olney, which cost $25.00.

The only challenging aspect of this was in preparing evidence for the judge. I had several months worth of evidence, in the form of emails which had to be organized and printed out, (and the work itself, in the form of original art and digital files) and then quite a lot of work was involved in preparing my case. I also had to print out and organize all of the original art created for Olney, along with printed copies of the site design and associated graphics.

Without Mark Waid's generosity, it would have likely taken me far longer to actually file the lawsuit. Although I had my paperwork ready, I was still scrambling to make up for the loss of income, and each time I was sure I was ready to file, some bill would take precedence. I am a full-time freelancer, so when a client doesn't pay for a big project, I'm suddenly in a lot of trouble, because I had to turn down other paying work in order to meet his deadlines.

If you were Olney'd, and have more questions about the filing process, please PM me. I'm happy to help out however I can.

Lastly, thanks to Matt Martin and Papergirl, for driving up to show their support this morning.

YES! YES! YES!
WOOOOHOOOO!!!
http://www.kissingsailor.com/lifeposterb.jpg

Congratulations, Scott!

I am not owed money by Olney. But I am overjoyed that he's getting what's coming to him.

One thought- can you add collection costs to the judgment? I thought that wasn't difficult to do.

Best of luck with the collections process!

[Inkpot1965]

"All in all, it's just another brick in Rick's wall".

[wishlish]

Whats really scary in a way is she may have no clue all this is happening beyond Rick dissolving the business. That things are going about and Rick maybe telling her he's working on settling things. She maybe so busy with her work she has no clue at all about this latest court battle.

Bull.

She was there when the company was dissolved in January, according to the clerk.

She knew enough to take her name off the company.

[LomiMonet]

That was apparently the second judgment against Rick in the last week or so, just the first where the winner's posted here.

kdb

Two strikes against Rick.
Stomach acid rising high.
Ulcer pending.

[neko onna]

two down...who is next?
http://www.digitalwebbing.com/forums/images/smilies/banana.gif

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Bull.

She was there when the company was dissolved in January, according to the clerk.

She knew enough to take her name off the company.

Then 2 weeks later Rick went back and re-registered it. She may have no clue about this erupting into what we see. She may think he owes a few small bills and that the company wasn't working and may have thought he dissolved it for the hell of it. ( no clue he brought it back)

Because when you think about it....thus far from what this thread has showed , she had no clue about the work of TE. Did any of the pros deal with Mrs.Olney ? Thats an open question...did she take calls ? Mail them information ect ect. Or was it all Rick ?

[wishlish]

At least one pro said she signed checks.

And it doesn't matter that he reformed the company on his own; she's still liable for these debts.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Now that he has posted...

Scott Reed is a hell of a guy. His wife is very pleasant. I had been talking with the both of them for a while trying to help in any way I could.

I was hoping Rick would be charged with contempt for not showing, but, in the end, having him nailed for the original bill AND interest AND court fees was just as sweet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg

Just in case the sheriff needs to find him again.


Rick..next time someone asks you a simple question, don't call names.

Next time...NO TIE CLIP!

When is your next court date, Chuckles?

Have a nice day, Rick!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

At least one pro said she signed checks.

And it doesn't matter that he reformed the company on his own; she's still liable for these debts.

Ohh yeah she's liable.....because thats her name there. Thats a shock that someone from TE got paid. Was it in person though ? Because thus far its like Rick's got people scattered all over the country he owes.

[Sarah Beach]

Then 2 weeks later Rick went back and re-registered it. She may have no clue about this erupting into what we see. She may think he owes a few small bills and that the company wasn't working and may have thought he dissolved it for the hell of it. ( no clue he brought it back)

Because when you think about it....thus far from what this thread has showed , she had no clue about the work of TE. Did any of the pros deal with Mrs.Olney ? Thats an open question...did she take calls ? Mail them information ect ect. Or was it all Rick ?

On the one occasion we do know where someone was paid (I believe it was a vendor getting a refund for one of the cancelled cons), he said that the check had been written by Mrs. Olney.

For what that's worth as information, but there you go.

[TonyIsabella]

Congratulations to Scott. Three cheers and a tiger to Mark Waid, Matt, and Papergirl.

Olney's bad week may not be over yet. One of the major comics newssites just requested permission to repost my warning about him.

Tony

[SUPERECWFAN1]

On the one occasion we do know where someone was paid (I believe it was a vendor getting a refund for one of the cancelled cons), he said that the check had been written by Mrs. Olney.

For what that's worth as information, but there you go.

I vendor....perhaps she only knows about the Conventions that he runs and knows nothing beyond it.

[Matt Doc Martin]

At least one pro said she signed checks.

And it doesn't matter that he reformed the company on his own; she's still liable for these debts.

You are correct, sir.

She may not be responsible for the decisions that Rick made, but she is liable for the consequences of Rick's actions due to her being part-owner at the time.

And ANY assets that they have separately or together are prone to discovery and use in paying off the judgments against Rick Olney and TLE.

That includes his Van of Justice and his comic collection.

He will never hold another con again. At least no con that any creator will make it to.

His name and actions are out there. I am not the only one spreading the word. He helps too.

Next step suggested by a wise man was contacting web comic creators as well. They are a market he may attempt to use. If you know of a creator that you can get in contact with, please do.

I will not stop until Rick Olney pays his debts and apologizes to everyone here.

Try me, Rick. I haven't lied yet about you or the actions I have taken. What makes you think I will lie now?

Rest assured, I will be speaking with Jen Joy again and I will let her know how you "never got her call" yet you "have proof". I am calling bullshit on it now, but I will have her send you an email AND letters to your home address AND your new PO Box. I am guessing the wife got that for you, as there is still no evidence you pay for anything. If you did pay for this, my apologies. The law of averages states you are bound to pay for SOMETHING, even accidentally.

[KevinTBrown]

Congratulations to Scott. Three cheers and a tiger to Mark Waid, Matt, and Papergirl.

Olney's bad week may not be over yet. One of the major comics newssites just requested permission to repost my warning about him.

Tony

Hopefully it begins with "News" and ends in "arama".... ;)

[SteveForbes]

Sorry you had to experience that sort of thing, Steve. But I do know it is still par for the course. Mores the pity. As for the bigoted player you dealt with. Remember that bigotry can be a learned process for those who have trouble thinking for themselves. I promise you that his father or mother or some influental person was bigoted as well. Thankfully little by little this sick carousel is breaking down.

Danny, Nat, and Bat:

Thanks. From the bottom of my heart.

What I don't get is that this is the 21st century. We haven't abolished this type of thinking in 400 years!?

I remember being a kid and watching the Jetsons. Everything's automatic and flying cars and robots. It's going to take some time to get there, I know, but at the same time, what are race relations like in that period?

How is it that we have more technology NOW, but are less advanced than people were 1000 years ago?

Sadness. Truly and remarkably. I'm just doing my (small) part to try to uplift myself (and therefore, others) out of a way of thought that should never have been introduced in the first place.

Last time I checked, all of humanity is the same race. The same genus. We can't produce offspring outside of it. Shouldn't the fact that we're all human and have to share the planet be enough to satisfy us all?

Anyway, I'm back, and I'm STILL trying to catch up. I can't wait for the news!!!

-(down from the tall horse now) llama

[SteveForbes]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/valentine038.jpg

Me at the Pasco County courthouse, Happy Meal in hand!

As I am still holding bag, Rick was listed as an FTA.

YOU LOSE, RICK!

Quoted for HILARITY!!!!!

-(gasping for breath) llama

[singoalla]

Just letting everyone know that I have won a lawsuit this morning that was filed against Rick Olney dba Tightlip Entertainment. Olney did not heed the court summons that was delivered to him by the Herkimer Sheriffs dept on January 11, 2007, resulting in a win today by default of his no-show in court.


This is awesome!

Congratulations, and I hope things turn out the best for you in the near future.

Side note: Since Rick ain't exactly known for paying his debts or respecting the law, what happens to him if he doesn't pay? Jail? Impounding of the V.o.J?

[jesshickman]

Side note: Since Rick ain't exactly known for paying his debts or respecting the law, what happens to him if he doesn't pay? Jail? Impounding of the V.o.J?
Also, are there any added charges since he didn't show (I know nothing about law)?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

You are correct, sir.

She may not be responsible for the decisions that Rick made, but she is liable for the consequences of Rick's actions due to her being part-owner at the time.

And ANY assets that they have separately or together are prone to discovery and use in paying off the judgments against Rick Olney and TLE.

That includes his Van of Justice and his comic collection.



Can you imagine in some dark twisted way if she really had no clue this was happening and suddenly someone told her. I can see it really knocking her for a loop.

[SteveForbes]

Congratulations!!!!!

This is a GREAT thing to happen today!

It's new comics day, I may have slid into a higher paying job, AND YOR loses another case!

There are very few things that can make this day complete.

-(warm and fuzzy) llama

[Typo Lad]

Also, are there any added charges since he didn't show (I know nothing about law)?
I think only if he is held in contempt.

[singoalla]

Danny, Nat, and Bat:

Thanks. From the bottom of my heart.

What I don't get is that this is the 21st century. We haven't abolished this type of thinking in 400 years!?

I remember being a kid and watching the Jetsons. Everything's automatic and flying cars and robots. It's going to take some time to get there, I know, but at the same time, what are race relations like in that period?

How is it that we have more technology NOW, but are less advanced than people were 1000 years ago?

Sadness. Truly and remarkably. I'm just doing my (small) part to try to uplift myself (and therefore, others) out of a way of thought that should never have been introduced in the first place.

Last time I checked, all of humanity is the same race. The same genus. We can't produce offspring outside of it. Shouldn't the fact that we're all human and have to share the planet be enough to satisfy us all?

Anyway, I'm back, and I'm STILL trying to catch up. I can't wait for the news!!!

-(down from the tall horse now) llama

I'm sorry that you had to go through that as a kid, stuff like that never ever goes away, no matter how much time passes or what reconciliation you might get.
I'm white, but my younger brothers are both hispanic. They haven't been called anything to their faces yet, but one kid has apparently been told by his parents not to play with them anymore. All I can say about that is it's damn depressing. I thought people had gotten smarter in the past 40 years, but apparently I was wrong.

I won't even bother to insult Rick. He's done a fine job of that himself. Suffice to say he's proved himself on par with the scrapings of a ceptic tank. Have a lovely few months in court.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Also, are there any added charges since he didn't show (I know nothing about law)?

None that I am aware of. As I said, my disappointment in that was tempered by the great end result of INSTANT JUSTICE with the judge awarding Scott full damages and interest.

Plus, I knew I would be back here to help rub salt in his wounds.

Pics and all.

HAVE A NICE DAY, RICK!

Need to get ahold of Rick to offer comfort, well wishes, or another summons?

well, here you go!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg

[the4thpip]

Congratulations, Scott!

[singoalla]

Can you imagine in some dark twisted way if she really had no clue this was happening and suddenly someone told her. I can see it really knocking her for a loop.

She'd have to be the dumbest thing on earth. I can't see how she could not possibly know. I can't imagine many wives who don't have some incling (sp?)of their husband's economy.

Pure speculation of course. BUt still, there are letters, subpoenas, phone calls, people have these documented (matt and tom stillwell scare the crap outta me) and she was registered as a partner for TLE... so...

Unless she's doing the whole 'cover my ears Lalalalala' thing.

[Buckminster Futter]

First of all, congratulations to all involved in the first of hopefully many judgements to be smote upon The Stinky One!

Man, the deja-vu from all this is scary. Meltdowns. Threats. Challenges. Where's Buckminster Futter when you need him?!? :D If memory serves, he was the lone attendee of Rick's only Pitt-Con panel, and was also similarly challenged for a Pitt-Con brawl once. Hopefully Buck will make the trip, since I had the misfortune of not seeing him last time he made the trek.

Hi, Glen, long time no read! I miss the old trivia games!

Ah, yes, it was back in '99 or '00 (or someyear around there) when the wife and I and faithful Siberian Husky Nadja made a leisurely and lovely RV trip from the cornfields of Indiana into the wilds of Pennsylvania, ending up at that year's PittCon. Guests such as Al Williamson, Denis Kitchen, Mike Kaluta, Evan Dorkin, and others were the lure for our attending, but another aspect was that Rick Olney, with whom I'd had a myriad of cyber-altercations at Comicon.com and had become intrigued as to just how nuts this putz was, had announced that there would be an O.R.C.A. panel at the convention. Color us there!

Despite a dearth of information available at their rarely-attended-to table (never saw Olney there on my few passes by) and, as I recall, no edification in the con program, I managed to locate the correct room as the previous panel was letting out. Oddly, as I wandered to the back of the room to get a much-needed glass of water, I realized that no one else was coming in. At the front of the room (one, by the way, about the size of a small classroom) stood, as I was soon to discover, Rick Olney, his sidekick Dennis Kiniger, and a few others in the O.R.C.A. "brain" trust. I sat about halfway back, not wanting to get too intimate (though still blissfully unaware of his hygenic issues), took a drink from my glass and wished it was Scotch.

The next twenty or thirty minutes were interminably boring, with Olney pontificating to me directly about the wonders of O.R.C.A., blah blah blah; no one else said a flippin' word. When he got to the part about signing up and contributions, I politely declined and got the hell out of there.

The rest of the con and our trip was great, and when I got home I wrote a long essay (much longer than this - you should be thanking me for sparing you that account) which I posted at Comicon.com's messageboards. There I found Olney attempting to spin the panel as a triumphant success. That hot-air balloon got burst damned quick.

Anyway, the observations by Scott Shaw and others regarding Olney's posting patterns are spot on. I don't believe he was drunk during this last meltdown, either...I've seen it played out on at least a dozen occasions. Every time it's been incredibly amusing to watch this pantload self-immolate. But even though it's not been very funny this time, there is the very gratifying possibility that this will be the last time.

Here's hoping.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

She'd have to be the dumbest thing on earth. I can't see how she could not possibly know. I can't imagine many wives who don't have some incling (sp?)of their husband's economy.

Pure speculation of course. BUt still, there are letters, subpoenas, phone calls, people have these documented (matt and tom stillwell scare the crap outta me) and she was registered as a partner for TLE... so...

Unless she's doing the whole 'cover my ears Lalalalala' thing.

Odds are with Rick home as some have said he's disabled he's able to erase the calls , messages ect ect. To try and make things appear to be perfect for her. That theres little to no problems going on and that thru 30 years of marriage as Rick has claimed , why would she start doubting him now ?

Her only problem maybe she's overly trusting in her husband. That she has no clue he's doing what he's doing.

Of course we really don't know anything regarding the inner workings of TE beyond the fact Rick owes the world. And the worlds coming to collect now.

[Kozemp]

Apparently the site Tony was talking about was The Beat:

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/02/28/rick-olney-at-it-again/

Good on him, and Heidi.

JLK
yay for Google Reader Notifier

[Kalen O.]

Originally Posted by SteveForbes
Danny, Nat, and Bat:

Thanks. From the bottom of my heart.

What I don't get is that this is the 21st century. We haven't abolished this type of thinking in 400 years!?

I remember being a kid and watching the Jetsons. Everything's automatic and flying cars and robots. It's going to take some time to get there, I know, but at the same time, what are race relations like in that period?

How is it that we have more technology NOW, but are less advanced than people were 1000 years ago?

Sadness. Truly and remarkably. I'm just doing my (small) part to try to uplift myself (and therefore, others) out of a way of thought that should never have been introduced in the first place.

Last time I checked, all of humanity is the same race. The same genus. We can't produce offspring outside of it. Shouldn't the fact that we're all human and have to share the planet be enough to satisfy us all?

Anyway, I'm back, and I'm STILL trying to catch up. I can't wait for the news!!!

-(down from the tall horse now) llama

I'm sorry that you had to go through that as a kid, stuff like that never ever goes away, no matter how much time passes or what reconciliation you might get.
I'm white, but my younger brothers are both hispanic. They haven't been called anything to their faces yet, but one kid has apparently been told by his parents not to play with them anymore. All I can say about that is it's damn depressing. I thought people had gotten smarter in the past 40 years, but apparently I was wrong.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for anyone whose ever had to put up with such bigotry and deal with as well as you seem to have, Steve. But sometimes people can surprise you, and I think that goes a long way towards making a more optimistic future. I'm like singoalla, in that while I'm white myself, I have two younger adopted siblings, one Vietnamese sister and my little brother is Mexican. I wish I could say they never had to deal with anything like that, but unfortunately it came up now and then. More so for my brother, as growing up in San Diego, there tends to be a lot more negative perception of Hispanic people than any other ethnicity, but really, there isn't a whole lot you can do to combat such willful ignorance. (Though it didn't stop us from trying. Heh, for awhile growing up I used to tell people I was half Mexican myself whenever they hassled my brother. Despite my Irish heritage I have very dark hair and a pretty heavy tan, so I was actually believed more often than not). But still, they've both grown up very well adjusted and sure of themselves, (couldn't be prouder of them for it) and really, I think that's the only way to ultimately deal with this sort of thing.

So again, my sincerest respect to you and everyone else of your caliber Steve, for letting your actions prove the ignorant masses wrong. And if some people like Rick Olney never really get it and fall back on racist and homophobic insults for lack of a more intelligent argument....some people just take a perverse pride in being wrong and wrong minded. (Also being bisexual myself, I find Rick's homophobic cracks more amusing than anything else. I mean really, if that's the best he can do....*shrugs. Small minds).



*Sighs* You know, to this day I think I still have friends who never quite figured out I wasn't serious about being half Mexican. Oh well.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Apparently the site Tony was talking about was The Beat:

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/02/28/rick-olney-at-it-again/

Good on him, and Heidi.

JLK
yay for Google Reader Notifier

I give it a day before the usual thing happens . :p

[wishlish]

We already know Olney's response: "Small courts don't count. The decisions are easily overturned." He said this while drunk the other night.

But he's still going to have to overturn it. And that means ACTUALLY HIRING AN ATTORNEY, not just ranting and raving about his imaginary friends who act as his crack legal staff.

And for the last time, can we stop caring about Barbara Olney? Even if she knows absolutely nothing about TLE (which I highly doubt), would you rather she be spared or the screwed freelancers get paid?

If I co-owned a business with my wife, and we owed you money over a contract I made with you, would you hesitate to collect from her? No. And you shouldn't. I am bound to pay my wife's debts, and she's bound to pay mine. That's how it is. And if I sink her for a ton of money, well, that's why God invented frying pans. (Or at least that's what she tells me.)

She might not be the obnoxious one, but she's co-partner, and she's got an income.

[Danny Donovan]

Apparently the site Tony was talking about was The Beat:

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/02/28/rick-olney-at-it-again/

Good on him, and Heidi.

JLK
yay for Google Reader Notifier


I love my Uncle Heidi.

:)

[JeffreyWKramer]

Olney's bad week may not be over yet. One of the major comics newssites just requested permission to repost my warning about him.


I love it!!!

[SteveForbes]

I have nothing but the utmost respect for anyone whose ever had to put up with such bigotry and deal with as well as you seem to have, Steve. But sometimes people can surprise you, and I think that goes a long way towards making a more optimistic future. I'm like singoalla, in that while I'm white myself, I have two younger adopted siblings, one Vietnamese sister and my little brother is Mexican. I wish I could say they never had to deal with anything like that, but unfortunately it came up now and then. More so for my brother, as growing up in San Diego, there tends to be a lot more negative perception of Hispanic people than any other ethnicity, but really, there isn't a whole lot you can do to combat such willful ignorance. (Though it didn't stop us from trying. Heh, for awhile growing up I used to tell people I was half Mexican myself whenever they hassled my brother. Despite my Irish heritage I have very dark hair and a pretty heavy tan, so I was actually believed more often than not). But still, they've both grown up very well adjusted and sure of themselves, (couldn't be prouder of them for it) and really, I think that's the only way to ultimately deal with this sort of thing.

So again, my sincerest respect to you and everyone else of your caliber Steve, for letting your actions prove the ignorant masses wrong. And if some people like Rick Olney never really get it and fall back on racist and homophobic insults for lack of a more intelligent argument....some people just take a perverse pride in being wrong and wrong minded. (Also being bisexual myself, I find Rick's homophobic cracks more amusing than anything else. I mean really, if that's the best he can do....*shrugs. Small minds).



*Sighs* You know, to this day I think I still have friends who never quite figured out I wasn't serious about being half Mexican. Oh well.


Singaolla, Kalen:

The time is coming. I'm not too worried about it.

During high school, I was wondering about race relations and aliens. I came to the realization of two things: first, if aliens were ever to pull a War of the Worlds or Battlefield: Earth, no one here would really care about white/black, rich/poor, smart/stupid. It would be all about survival. Then I amended my thoughts for the second realization: some are more bigotted than others, and wouldn't ask for help from someone of color if their life depended on it.

(That reminds me of an episode of The Jeffersons, where George saves the life of a KKK member. Once the KKK guy comes around, he tells his family that they should have let him die instead of having George save him.)

Religion is even worse!

And I don't get the homophobic thing, either. Sure, when I was a kid, I'd call things "gay" without understanding, or call guy's "faggots." I was a kid- what did I know? Then, when I finally had sex, and started down the road of exploration and the understanding that comes with it- I found it to be just plain stupid.

When I was in the Corps, I also did security as a part time job. I was in San Diego, and one of the clubs there needed security every night it was open. It was a gay club, and we were warned ahead of time: if gay people bother you, it's not the right job for you to be at.

So, I took the job, because gay people don't bother me. I wasn't propositioned, but I had my butt squeezed a couple of times, one guy kissed me on the cheek about four times in one night (he was drunk and it was New Year's Eve), and I saw a tranny that I would have LOVED to spend some quality time with.

And no, there were never any fights between the gay men. Straight men, and the women who came there- that's a different story.

So, what am I saying?

We're all people. How hard is it to love one another? True love is so damned hard to find, right? Why make it harder by closing doors? Attraction is attraction, no matter who you are, and if it's not returned, why ridicule the other party? I don't get it.

-(maybe i should give "love one another" speeches) llama

[TomStillwell]

Just letting everyone know that I have won a lawsuit this morning that was filed against Rick Olney dba Tightlip Entertainment. Olney did not heed the court summons that was delivered to him by the Herkimer Sheriffs dept on January 11, 2007, resulting in a win today by default of his no-show in court.

For those unaware of my case, I sued Rick for 2 unpaid invoices totaling over $2,400.00. Rick acknowledged and then attempted to avoid responsibility to these debts. I made every attempt to settle the matter with him outside of court, to no avail. He paid my efforts with insults, public defamation of character, lies, accusations and threats.

I won't be publicly responding here about this, beyond this post. The reason for this is that I have already invested quite a few hours over the last several months in dealing with him via email, and monitoring his online activity in this and other forums. The stress this has caused me and my family cannot be understated. I simply want to move forward at this point and pursue collecting the debt now that the trial is over.

Filing a lawsuit in small claims court is easy. For those who are in a similar situation, but hesitate to take action, just call your local county clerks office and ask for the forms needed to file a small claims lawsuit. Some places even have online forms. You won't need legal representation. The filing fee was $155.00 in my case, but it will likely vary state by state, and according to the amount you are suing for. In the state of Florida, I was able to file the lawsuit here, because this is the state where the services were rendered. I then had the Herkimer County Sheriffs office deliver the summons to Olney, which cost $25.00.

The only challenging aspect of this was in preparing evidence for the judge. I had several months worth of evidence, in the form of emails which had to be organized and printed out, (and the work itself, in the form of original art and digital files) and then quite a lot of work was involved in preparing my case. I also had to print out and organize all of the original art created for Olney, along with printed copies of the site design and associated graphics.

Without Mark Waid's generosity, it would have likely taken me far longer to actually file the lawsuit. Although I had my paperwork ready, I was still scrambling to make up for the loss of income, and each time I was sure I was ready to file, some bill would take precedence. I am a full-time freelancer, so when a client doesn't pay for a big project, I'm suddenly in a lot of trouble, because I had to turn down other paying work in order to meet his deadlines.

If you were Olney'd, and have more questions about the filing process, please PM me. I'm happy to help out however I can.

Lastly, thanks to Matt Martin and Papergirl, for driving up to show their support this morning.

Bravo!!! This makes my heart happy.

[Darediva]

Congratulations to Scott. Three cheers and a tiger to Mark Waid, Matt, and Papergirl.

Olney's bad week may not be over yet. One of the major comics newssites just requested permission to repost my warning about him.

Tony

The news just keeps gettin' better. Someone better have a doghouse, because he's gonna need it to sleep in when the Van of Justice is repossessed.

[Flamebird]

High road or not, that was damn funny. Does this pamphlet come complete with a cover illo?

Didn't you finish drawing it yet?

Sheesh, how unprofessional :eek:


No free NDA's for YOU! ;)

[Greg S.]

Singaolla, Kalen:

(That reminds me of an episode of The Jeffersons, where George saves the life of a KKK member. Once the KKK guy comes around, he tells his family that they should have let him die instead of having George save him.)



You know, the first time I read your post quickly and thought you had written "an episode of 'The Jetsons'" and my first thought was "Is George Jetson Jewish?" Then I looked back and saw what you were really talking about. I do remember that episode and I haven't watched The Jeffersons since it originally aired. Still, I'd love to see that episode of The Jetsons that was taking place in my head for a moment. Thank you for inadvertently giving me my biggest laugh of the day.


To ALL:

I have never posted in this thread, but I have been reading every post since day 1. Congratulations to all who were involved in bringing the first two cases to successful conclusions. Hope we'll see many more.

-Greg S.

[DocAbsurd]

Scott, I am not simply elated at this news; I'm also damn proud of you. You not only stood up to Olney, you knocked that fecking chip right off his shoulder. His bravado and bluster the other night have been held up to scrutiny. And they've been proven to be 'wafer thin'. You are an inspiration to the rest of us orphans.

Mark, while I've always admired your writing skills, today I admire you as a friend. So much for Olney's claims about your ego; you supported a 'little guy' when it wasn't necessary and did it all from behind the scenes. If you'd been the braggart Olney regularly purported, you'd've been contacting every news site about this. Thank you.

And Matt and Peeg, thanks for being there and representing our spirit.

I realize you ain't talking about this no more, Scott, but I am sorely tempted to post this on the small press groups I belong to. It is fairly newsworthy, after all . . .




Doc 'In Yo' Face' Absurd

[JTPencils]

In the interest of "giving someone one last chance"... I resent my invoice to YOR... since there are monetary amounts there, I won't post that here... but I WILL post the cover letter I sent along with it.

J. Taylor
Wet Inc Studios
Feb. 28, 2007


Mr Olney,

This message is being sent in recognition of the fact you may have forgotten about your debt, or the exact amount, for work provided to you and your TightLip Entertaiment company by myself. It has been almost one full year since this debt was incurred by you. In an attempt to clear up my financial books, I am resending you this invoice.


I would prefer to expedite this matter and resolve the issue in a civil fashion. However, let it be known that if you do not respond in a timely fashion, that legal action will be unavoidable. Full remittance of the amount owed will be appreciated, in a money order, or bank check.

I am notifying you with this message, that if no reply or payment is received within two weeks (March 14, 2007), that papers will be filed to deal with this issue directly in court.


James Taylor
Wet Inc Studios

I DOUBT ever so much I'll get a sane response, and sure as hell probably no check. But I figure, in the interest of fairness (and to TRY to help him avoid just one MORE garnishment)... I'd give it a shot.

If not, on that date, I will be contacting Mark W, and letting him know my intentions. But I'll converse with him on that directly. And not take up more space here about it.


BTW... Scott... congratulations. This is no doubt, the tip of the iceberg.

[Reverend Smooth]

The design is very cool. I guess that is why it did stay with me. There was something about him in those preview pics, suave and yet cruel beyond words. Very strange, and therefore very well done.Duncan really translated what we wanted, with his own touch, perfectly into arts.

Thank you very much. XD <33333

[Reverend Smooth]

Not only does Rick see the monster in the mirror but he gleeful at its reflection.
...That is such an awesome saying.

[DocAbsurd]

Well, well, well.

Looks like word is spreading faster than expected.

Johanna wrote about the MMC on Comics Worth Reading (http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/02/28/rick-olney-con-update/).

I think we need an update on the UNSCREWED! site. And I gotta me arse going on my blog.




Doc 'Is It Wrong to Feel So Right?' Absurd

[NatGertler]

What I don't get is that this is the 21st century. We haven't abolished this type of thinking in 400 years!?Abolishing a form of thinking, even a bad one, is not an easy thing to do. It may well be impossible. Reducing it can be accomplished... and in fact has.

Active racism is to some degree a product of the age of travel; time was when one could go one's entire life without running into someone of a different race, and while one may have heard tails of the foreign, it wasn't something one could actually run into. This didn't mean that forms of hatred couldn't grow - people are always looking for someone to feel better than, and when times are bad then someone must be to blame.

And its a mistake to think that thing haven't gotten better; we don't need to eradicate the bad to lessen it (although the pain stings all the more when it's not expected, when you're not seeing it day by day.) Believe me, the tales that I hear my stepmother tell, about traveling around the country as a young black American Indian woman, there's nothing that matches them today. Racism in its pure simple form isn't institutionalized to the way it was. Signs on hotels and restaurants to keep the negroes out just aren't done any more in the US. Now in some ways, that's the easiest level of racism to fight, because it's visible and it speaks its own name. It's the visible portion of the much larger iceberg, and having eliminated it some people want to believe that the iceberg is gone. But things have been getting better, and there is much to say for "better". Then again, there is also much to say for being dissatisfied with "better".

(One thing that gets tricky about charting such things is that the loudest calls in favor of discrimination are when the societal demand for it is actually weakening. For example, you will hear many more speak out against homosexuals today than fifty years ago. Why? Because the anti-homosexual forces are losing ground. Fifty years ago, one had no more reason to say that they were against homosexuals than to say "I like breathing air". It was assumed. It was a value that rarely faced being questioned. But now the voices are raised loud in panic...)

[NatGertler]

I resent my invoice to YOR...I'm confident that he resents it as well!

"Upstate New York needs a horrorgasm as only the likes of I can give it!" -- Rick Olney (http://www.comicbookconventions.com/forum/index.php?topic=1605.0)

[JTPencils]

I'm confident that he resents it as well!

"Upstate New York needs a horrorgasm as only the likes of I can give it!" -- Rick Olney (http://www.comicbookconventions.com/forum/index.php?topic=1605.0)

No doubt. I thought of it like this. I posted it all here to make it public knowledge (because I know the fine folks here keep track of things better then the federal govt for Pete's sake), that I DID try one last time to end this amicably.

I will also gladly post any response I get (if any), so that it again, is public knowledge.

I'm just going for a serious case of CYA here. Hope no one minds!

[Sarah Beach]

Well, well, well.

Looks like word is spreading faster than expected.

Johanna wrote about the MMC on Comics Worth Reading (http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/02/28/rick-olney-con-update/).

I think we need an update on the UNSCREWED! site. And I gotta me arse going on my blog.




Doc 'Is It Wrong to Feel So Right?' Absurd

Awwww, Doc! Johanna's quote about the court judgement is from the Unscrewed! site!

Heh.

I posted the update a couple of hours ago. ;)

[Inkpot1965]

Discrimination of ANY kind is one of the ugly aspects of human nature. Whether it's race, religion, income, geography, sexual preference, or gender, it's hard to kill BECAUSE it is human nature. There is a part of human beings that dislikes or even hates anyone or anything who is different than themselves. Education can help keep it down, but it can never be totally eradicated. It's one of the traits that humans will always have to fight to keep suppressed. If only common sense were human nature, it would be easier. But that's a learned trait, and sadly, isn't a popular subject in this day and age. A friend of mine once remarked that he didn't trust anyone with a beard. Some people judge a person by the firmness of their handshake. That too is a learned behavior. The guy shaking your hand firmly could be a serial killer. There is no end to the ways a person "us" can separate themselves from anyone different "them". It's a neverending cycle.

My way of looking at the subject is simple and logical. Skin color is just fashion, no more important than clothing or hair style. People are people. I've met people all over this country and FROM all over this country [ and few others to boot]. People are people. It makes infinitely more sense to judge people by their actions or the way they treat people. Only there can you find the true measure of a person.

But what do I know? I'm just a fat, balding hermit who tries to scrape a living from drawing pretty pictures.

[Reverend Smooth]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/valentine038.jpg

Me at the Pasco County courthouse, Happy Meal in hand!

As I am still holding bag, Rick was listed as an FTA.

YOU LOSE, RICK!I'd hit it. <3

[JTPencils]

Surprisingly enough, YOR did respond quickly. He is correct on ONE point. I did forget to include the invoice form with my initial contact, but have since resent, WITH the invoice attached.

YOR replied...

"Dear Mr. J. Taylor,

It is customary, when intimating and making such requests of a party and/or company regarding payment due, to actually have an attachment or pertinent information included within the body of your email request.

After an extensive search of your earlier email -- No invoice could be found. Only a letter of request asking after a debt that is frankly, already a matter of record with my attorney seemed to address your email contents. .

Additionally, as I never contracted with a "Wet Inc Studios", the legal validity of such company shall need to ascertained. I assume that your studio business is conducted in your homestate, but I will need an address.

Actual allegedly owed dollar figures in a breakdown by item (again alleged to have been created) will also be a legal matter of contention, as a civil action for failure to withhold confidentality will be filed shortly against you. Kindly re-supply the basis of your claim. Thank you. "

I did apologize for the error of the attachment, and resent basically the same exact cover letter... attached this time.

It also means that he IS online, doing heavens knows what! Lurking around here perhaps? If so, is that another bottle I hear being cracked open?

[Reverend Smooth]

I'm sorry that you had to go through that as a kid, stuff like that never ever goes away, no matter how much time passes or what reconciliation you might get.Beyond the fact that my last name meant I couldn't get work in my hometown, or that shopkeepers in some stores kept a watch on me because 'acadians are poor and poor people steal', one really irritating moment for me was when I discovered that a guy who had been hitting on me (we met through gamer friends) was a member of a political party whose sole raison d'etre was basically renewed cleansing of the french from canada. (They actually won in the province's capital.)

When I told him that dating a french girl might conflict with his beliefs, he was astonished. 'You're FRENCH? But you're not... I mean, you don't...'

"I don't what?"

"Well, you're... you sound just like us!"

"Why do you think I dropped my accent?"

"No, I mean, the stuff you say..."

"Wow, maybe that's because we're both human beings, not stereotypes."

"..."

It didn't help, he just avoided me after that (out of fear of getting his ass kicked, I heard). It was annoying, because he was one of the few other gamers at that high school.

I am not trying to steal the sympathy that SF rightfully deserves, but I'll note that I never kept a grudge against anglos; shit stays with you, but when one is of good character (Like, say, Steve and his Dad), it makes one more compassionate, not less.

So things do stick with you, but, lest I sound cliche, it truly does build good character in those willing to grow.

Racists like Olney are not representative of most Americans (or anglos), especially not today's newest generations. Thank goodness.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'd hit it. <3

Who wouldn't?

[JTPencils]

Who wouldn't?

Matt... you're not expecting complimentary Happy Meals with each successful case are you??

[Sarah Beach]

Surprisingly enough, YOR did respond quickly. He is correct on ONE point. I did forget to include the invoice form with my initial contact, but have since resent, WITH the invoice attached.

YOR replied...

"Dear Mr. J. Taylor,

It is customary, when intimating and making such requests of a party and/or company regarding payment due, to actually have an attachment or pertinent information included within the body of your email request.

After an extensive search of your earlier email -- No invoice could be found. Only a letter of request asking after a debt that is frankly, already a matter of record with my attorney seemed to address your email contents. .

Additionally, as I never contracted with a "Wet Inc Studios", the legal validity of such company shall need to ascertained. I assume that your studio business is conducted in your homestate, but I will need an address.

Actual allegedly owed dollar figures in a breakdown by item (again alleged to have been created) will also be a legal matter of contention, as a civil action for failure to withhold confidentality will be filed shortly against you. Kindly re-supply the basis of your claim. Thank you. "

I did apologize for the error of the attachment, and resent basically the same exact cover letter... attached this time.

It also means that he IS online, doing heavens knows what! Lurking around here perhaps? If so, is that another bottle I hear being cracked open?

Oh, he's so full of "blah blah blah" - really can hear the Peanuts "adults" talking now!

This is where getting all legalese is a good thing Jim. Like, "Whereas Jim Taylor (sole propritor and participant of Wet Ink Studios), performed Work X, Y & Z, and said work was accepted and used, the following invoice is presented...... blah blah. Please remit to Jim Taylor."

That sort of thing.

Legalese is especially good when used against RO. It alarms him into civility. Sometimes. Well.... when the mood strikes him.

And he seems to have the slowest "evaluators" in existence. But he had other people do it because his brain pan isn't big enough to contain such -- his ego is taking all the space.




Okay.... I admit, that was a bit petty. And I'm unrepentant. What am I to do? :D

[Inkpot1965]

JT, Skidmark's been threatening you with legal action for a year now. Did he give a clue as to when that would be taking place?

[JTPencils]

Oh, he's so full of "blah blah blah" - really can hear the Peanuts "adults" talking now!

This is where getting all legalese is a good thing Jim. Like, "Whereas Jim Taylor (sole propritor and participant of Wet Ink Studios), performed Work X, Y & Z, and said work was accepted and used, the following invoice is presented...... blah blah. Please remit to Jim Taylor."

That sort of thing.

Legalese is especially good when used against RO. It alarms him into civility. Sometimes. Well.... when the mood strikes him.

And he seems to have the slowest "evaluators" in existence. But he had other people do it because his brain pan isn't big enough to contain such -- his ego is taking all the space.




Okay.... I admit, that was a bit petty. And I'm unrepentant. What am I to do? :D

Sarah, you're absolutely right. I also sent an email detailing as such. That it's MY name on the invoice, that I am the sole freelancer/artist of Wet Inc Studio and such. Even when he tries to be civil (and tries to hard to write legalese) he sounds loopy. But thanks!! As usual, he's going to try to weasel out somehow or somewhere. He's got nowhere to run. After nearly a year, I've given him a fair response time. If he doesn't... then I'll be lining up my own case. Matt... ever been to CT? LOL.

[Reverend Smooth]

Who wouldn't?
It's the tie clip. Totally hot.

[JTPencils]

JT, Skidmark's been threatening you with legal action for a year now. Did he give a clue as to when that would be taking place?

As usual. "Soon". Or "in the works"... or when hell freezes over... take your pick. I've waited nearly a year. More then enough time (as is evidenced by Scott's win today... it DOESN'T take that long to set up a claim and get it judged) for YOR's crack legal team to get on the job, hell to even contact me with a nastygram email!

As to a clue... he couldn't buy a clue on the old Wheel of Fortune gameshow!

[Sarah Beach]

Oh, and I should have said it first thing: rock on JT!

Hope you get something out of the creature.

[NatGertler]

failure to withhold confidentalityGotta love those terms that mean the exact opposite of what he seems to think they do (even given the spelling error.) Can we expect him to "recant" this one again and again?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Surprisingly enough, YOR did respond quickly. He is correct on ONE point. I did forget to include the invoice form with my initial contact, but have since resent, WITH the invoice attached.

YOR replied...

"Dear Mr. J. Taylor,

It is customary, when intimating and making such requests of a party and/or company regarding payment due, to actually have an attachment or pertinent information included within the body of your email request.

After an extensive search of your earlier email -- No invoice could be found. Only a letter of request asking after a debt that is frankly, already a matter of record with my attorney seemed to address your email contents. .

Additionally, as I never contracted with a "Wet Inc Studios", the legal validity of such company shall need to ascertained. I assume that your studio business is conducted in your homestate, but I will need an address.

Actual allegedly owed dollar figures in a breakdown by item (again alleged to have been created) will also be a legal matter of contention, as a civil action for failure to withhold confidentality will be filed shortly against you. Kindly re-supply the basis of your claim. Thank you. "

I did apologize for the error of the attachment, and resent basically the same exact cover letter... attached this time.

It also means that he IS online, doing heavens knows what! Lurking around here perhaps? If so, is that another bottle I hear being cracked open?

Ignore his inane blatherings, make sure you send a copy certified mail as well, and when the deadline hits, file the case.



And yes, I have lived in CT before. If I can make it there, I will.

[JTPencils]

YOR must be sober today. Or at least he's not fallen off his chair, yet.

He replies to my amended email... invoice included.

---- Rick Olney <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mr. Taylor,
> We are now in receipt of your alleged invoice for work-for-hire services
> performed. Thank you.
>

I responded...

Mr Olney,

If you have received it. It can no longer be asserted as an "alleged" invoice.

In any case, I await your resolution to this matter, in discharging this bill in full. As indicated on the invoice, payment can be made in money order or bank check form. Personal checks, or third party checks, will not be accepted.

J. Taylor
Wet Inc Studio


What an idiot. To paraphrase a little green Jedi Master "Have or Have not, there is no alleged"

[Inkpot1965]

JT, WAKE UP!!! You're quoting a puppet! Heh

[JTPencils]

Ignore his inane blatherings, make sure you send a copy certified mail as well, and when the deadline hits, file the case.



And yes, I have lived in CT before. If I can make it there, I will.

Excellent idea Matt... when I return home from my work week, I will send the invoice (and a copy of the cover letter as well) off to YOR. The date of resolution I gave him will be the same, but at least there will be a hard copy of it in his hands (and he can't claim... "I never got that?!").

As for up to CT. If you can, that's awesome... and screw the Happy Meal... dinner will be on me that nite at a restaurant where the utensils are NOT plastic. (but the waitresses' assets are)

[JTPencils]

JT, WAKE UP!!! You're quoting a puppet! Heh

I draw guy's in tights and capes, and work with a puppet (ventriloquist) all day for my regular job... you expect any less?

[Inkpot1965]

I draw guy's in tights and capes, and work with a puppet (ventriloquist) all day for my regular job... you expect any less?

Well, considering your talking about a guy who thinks he's a Star Wars action figure, I guess not.

So you're treating Matt to HOOTERS?!! WOOHOO!

[JTPencils]

---- Rick Olney <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mr. Taylor,
> We are now in receipt of your alleged invoice for work-for-hire services
> performed. Thank you.

OK, here's my question. Who is "We"??? Is he a one man operation, or was this supposed to be from his "board of directors", his "secretary" or some poor lackey he's got chained to his desk??

BTW... thanks for the encouragement Sarah. It's being here and seeing that I'm not "facing this alone" that's helped me to make my decision to no longer cower or fear his ranting... and take the bull by the horns and do something about it.

[Scott Dickerson]

I found this thread a couple nights ago, via some Googlicious serendipity.

I've read through the whole thing. My eyes are very tired. But it seems to be a story with a happy ending. Congratulations--with a side of awe!--to those of you who actually took the time to address the issue.

Which means, as a matter of fact, all of you. You stood up to a bully, and you stood together.

I hate bullies and bullyism. As a kid I didn't have the guts to stand up to them. I stood aside when they picked in others. In that--I disgraced myself.

It doesn't matter, not really, if in some sense the bully "can't help it". He can look at the facts, acknowedge his conduct, make amends and not excuses, and demonstrate that he cares and is trying.

Sometimes--yes, it really does matter who started it.

I've dropped in because I'm also doing what I can to fight a bully.

I'm not connected to the comics industry, don't know some of the terminology in this thread, and have no insight with respect to the legal issues involved. I'd never heard of your Rick Olney until two days ago. Yet I recognized him.

Because in my microcorner of the multiverse--boys series books (ie, Hardy Boys, Tom Swift, etc)--we have our own version, who involves himself under many pseudonyms, insults, rants, disparages, bars, blocks--and is allowed to get away with it because no one has the time or energy to devote to making forceful answer.

Given your experience of Mr. Olney and the statement, noted more than once, that he makes use of sockpuppets and pseudonyms...

Do any of the following names ring a bell?

Hank Heyman
Bob Finnan
Tom Ippolito
Jerry Abbot (aka David Wayne Sims)
(Joseph) Cal Deal

--stating clearly that the appearance of a name on this list means only that I've run across it in some context on my internet wanderings with regard to this matter.

You have my admiration and my thanks.

Scott Dickerson
Tom Swift Lives! fan fiction

[Danny Donovan]

OK, here's my question. Who is "We"??? Is he a one man operation, or was this supposed to be from his "board of directors", his "secretary" or some poor lackey he's got chained to his desk??

BTW... thanks for the encouragement Sarah. It's being here and seeing that I'm not "facing this alone" that's helped me to make my decision to no longer cower or fear his ranting... and take the bull by the horns and do something about it.

I think he means we, like when the Queen of England says it. "We are not amused!"

Perhaps he thinks he's next in line for the royal crown... OH! I get it, much like how Lucas wanted to thank Rick for his work in comics by making a star wars character named after him, the King of Nonexistia has granted him dukeship over a land of his choosing.

And now he is to be refered to as "Lord Olney" and will only speak in plurals.

[Coppervale Studio]

OK, here's my question. Who is "We"??? Is he a one man operation, or was this supposed to be from his "board of directors", his "secretary" or some poor lackey he's got chained to his desk??

BTW... thanks for the encouragement Sarah. It's being here and seeing that I'm not "facing this alone" that's helped me to make my decision to no longer cower or fear his ranting... and take the bull by the horns and do something about it.

He's using the Royal "We", as in "We are not amusigated vis a vis your allegedly contended dispute for, ah, Our, um, disparigated.. ah...civil claim-suits."

[Coppervale Studio]

Doggone it, Danny... you topped my line! Who do you think you are, Kurt Busiek?

(Hm. Now I think about it, you beat me to it. But still, We are amusigated.)

[JTPencils]

He's using the Royal "We", as in "We are not amusigated vis a vis your allegedly contended dispute for, ah, Our, um, disparigated.. ah...civil claim-suits."

Oh OK. Then I laugh at "them". As has been uttered so often here before, and by others more pioneering then I "bring it on".

Good try Coopervale.. but that Danny is just so darn speedy!

[Larry Dixon]

Doggone it, Danny... you topped my line! Who do you think you are, Kurt Busiek?

(Hm. Now I think about it, you beat me to it. But still, We are amusigated.)

Welcome back Mighty James :) Yeah, I know that kdb guy completely preemptive-nailed my "imaginary lawyer in a tuxedo" gag some time back.

Scott D, and all the new folks chiming in, it is wonderful to have you here at YABS, and we hope you'll stick around our bunch of merry funsters for quite a while.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Danny you know like Lethal Weapon's best villain , Olney as a Lord can claim Diplomatic Immunity and wave it at those he owes.


Chuck Dixon : " Pay me Lord Olney ! "

Lord Olney: (starts laughing ) " Diplomatic Immunity ! "

Gail Simone : (cracks her neck) " Its just been revoked ! "

[Inkpot1965]

JT,
Is it really cowering? Or is it [like myself] trying desperately to avoid going through the pain of getting ready for a court case?[lazy streak, I admit it] It's something I would only do as an absolute last resort. But then again, if unavoidable, we might as well go all the way. There are so many avenues open to hammering Skidmark in court. He practically leaves road signs.

[Danny Donovan]

Doggone it, Danny... you topped my line! Who do you think you are, Kurt Busiek?

(Hm. Now I think about it, you beat me to it. But still, We are amusigated.)

lol. It may be the only time in my life that I get compared to Busiek, so I'm going to revel in that a bit.

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Still reveling.

...

Ok, done with the ego thing for now. This thread is like CRACK to me now. Well maybe not crack, but it is like a reward. I leave it open on the side I'll get a little work done refresh to see what's going on... do a little work... refresh.. I have a problem! :p

Plus I'm a damn fast typist.

But don't feel bad, Larry stepped on my Rocky Horror Picture Show reference earlier in the thread. *curse you Larry!!!*

Danny you know like Lethal Weapon's best villain , Olney as a Lord can claim Diplomatic Immunity and wave it at those he owes.


Chuck Dixon : " Pay me Lord Olney ! "

Lord Olney: (starts laughing ) " Diplomatic Immunity ! "

Gail Simone : (cracks her neck) " Its just been revoked ! "

I just got a mental image of Chuck going "I'm too old for this shit." and he and Gail leaping out of the way with a giant fireball coming from the building they exited...

It amuses me greatly.

[Kalen O.]

Ok, done with the ego thing for now. This thread is like CRACK to me now. Well maybe not crack, but it is like a reward. I leave it open on the side I'll get a little work done refresh to see what's going on... do a little work... refresh.. I have a problem!

Dude, this thread is so my crack, and I just found it. Huh, maybe this is what the doctors meant by addictive personality....

Oh well.

[Tobias March]

Anyone think we should close this thread and open a new one focusing on the various court cases that are sure to be coming down the line? Gail's original post was to alert people to Olney's dodgy business practices and skulduggery. We're onto a whole new stage here.

[Kalen O.]

But....I just found it! You can't take away my crack!

....Yeah, okay, stopping with that. There's really just no way for it NOT to come out wrong.

[Tobias March]

But....I just found it! You can't take away my crack!

....Yeah, okay, stopping with that. There's really just no way for it NOT to come out wrong.

It is amusing :D I imagine it'll be let stand as this ever expanding memorial. It's feckin' huge!

[Charles RB]

Ignoring a subpoena, guaranteeing that the judge will rule against you?

Mark that as a big "Yes"


Maybe he just overslept really badly.

[Reverend Smooth]

The art business is terrible to new people, and rarely do the offenders get (literally) served, or the rest of the community involved. So, of course a lot of people are addicted to this one, since a really bad offender is actually dealing with the consequences.

Even (most of) those of us who were not involved here have been burned.

People talked about karma (in the western sense of it, this lifetime) earlier, but how often do you see that come around, really? Who hasn't been screwed by a boss, a friend, a client, a partner?

People here decided to make karma happen.

[TonyIsabella]

Do any of the following names ring a bell?

Hank Heyman
Bob Finnan
Tom Ippolito
Jerry Abbot (aka David Wayne Sims)
(Joseph) Cal Deal

--stating clearly that the appearance of a name on this list means only that I've run across it in some context on my internet wanderings with regard to this matter.

You have my admiration and my thanks.

Scott Dickerson
Tom Swift Lives! fan fiction

The only name that rings a bell is Hank Heyman and I don't think he's Rick Olney. He's sent me nasty and semi-threatening letters because I have a policy of reporting websites illegally publishing copyrighted comics to the copyright owners.

He claims to be some sort of former black ops agent or hitman or something and living under an assumed identity. He strikes me as your basic bat-shit insane. I ignored him and he went away.

Tony

[Inkpot1965]

And it never hurts to make an example of Skidmark so that others inclined to stiff their workers know just how bad the consequences can be.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The only name that rings a bell is Hank Heyman and I don't think he's Rick Olney. He's sent me nasty and semi-threatening letters because I have a policy of reporting websites illegally publishing copyrighted comics to the copyright owners.

He claims to be some sort of former black ops agent or hitman or something and living under an assumed identity. He strikes me as your basic bat-shit insane. I ignored him and he went away.

Tony

Hank Heyman ? Thats a pretty funny story Tony. I'm glad he went away because he does sound like a messed up guy.

[Michael P]

I think only if he is held in contempt.

I should point out Typo means by the courts, not humanity at large.

[Coppervale Studio]

lol. It may be the only time in my life that I get compared to Busiek, so I'm going to revel in that a bit.

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Still reveling.

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Don't let me diminish the reveling, but earlier today, when I was at the grocery, the guy says, "Do you want plastic, or paper?" I replied, "Who do you think you are, Kurt Busiek?"

His bottom lip started to quiver, so I said, "Paper will be fine, Rick."

[Danny Donovan]

personally I'd be very sad to see this thread close. It's done so much for so many, it'd be like I dunno, having to put down your favorite pet. :p

It has devolved many times. But you know it's like Gail says, this thing has become a creature in and of itself. I say leave it alone and use Unscrewed! as the repository for archiving legal cases. (which is what its for.)

This thread is also good for that very reason. We let Unscrewed stay a stable professional place and this is sort of a place where we can hang out and be ourselves! :)

Like I dunno a cop bar or something!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

This thread needs to continue to teach guys like Rick who believe they'll hire people from the industry and f-ck them over , they will get paid back. People can see this thread as an example of what happens when you try and swerve the talented people .

[Danny Donovan]

Don't let me diminish the reveling, but earlier today, when I was at the grocery, the guy says, "Do you want plastic, or paper?" I replied, "Who do you think you are, Kurt Busiek?"

His bottom lip started to quiver, so I said, "Paper will be fine, Rick."

Well I kind of like using it as a verb whenever someone gets schooled on some random piece of obscure Marvel trivia. "Dude, you got Busiek'd!"

[Coppervale Studio]

Well I kind of like using it as a verb whenever someone gets schooled on some random piece of obscure Marvel trivia. "Dude, you got Busiek'd!"

Dude. That is so Mark Waid it SQUEAKS.

[Gail Simone]

That was on Jim's group. Jim's having problems with his internet connection so I doubt he's seen it yet. Besides which, Jim doesn't encourage letting articles be seen before publication; that's why he publishes physical copies.

But Olney just needed to get the word out, doncha know. The clamor musta been overwhelming. I mean, that's one whole person who's been wondering what happen to ORCA over the past 4 years.

He's even bragging about that 'magic whale' story and a new site for ORCA.

He really is gonna be busy, fulfilling all these new promises and breaking children's hearts when he can't keep 'em.

He has a line in there about how if you can't appreciate a story about an imaginary talking and flying magic killer whale (Hero Bear, where are you?) then you're not really cut out to be writing stories for children. Y'know, I've got 2 children meself; they love sci-fi and magic and super heroes and animals of all sorts. Somehow, I just don't see them flocking to a bad spin on an already well-executed concept.

Maybe my Things aren't cut out to be reading stories written for children.




Doc 'Here, Fishy Fishy Fishy!' Absurd


Oh, the NOTION of a talking fish might have worked, in the hands of say, Pixar.

In Rick's hands, it's the most pathetic Mary Sue, Jr. thing I've ever seen. He should be kept from writing at all costs.

Gail

[DaveRothe]

In the interest of "giving someone one last chance"... I resent my invoice to YOR... since there are monetary amounts there, I won't post that here... but I WILL post the cover letter I sent along with it.

J. Taylor
Wet Inc Studios
Feb. 28, 2007


Mr Olney,

This message is being sent in recognition of the fact you may have forgotten about your debt, or the exact amount, for work provided to you and your TightLip Entertaiment company by myself. It has been almost one full year since this debt was incurred by you. In an attempt to clear up my financial books, I am resending you this invoice.


I would prefer to expedite this matter and resolve the issue in a civil fashion. However, let it be known that if you do not respond in a timely fashion, that legal action will be unavoidable. Full remittance of the amount owed will be appreciated, in a money order, or bank check.

I am notifying you with this message, that if no reply or payment is received within two weeks (March 14, 2007), that papers will be filed to deal with this issue directly in court.


James Taylor
Wet Inc Studios

I DOUBT ever so much I'll get a sane response, and sure as hell probably no check. But I figure, in the interest of fairness (and to TRY to help him avoid just one MORE garnishment)... I'd give it a shot.

If not, on that date, I will be contacting Mark W, and letting him know my intentions. But I'll converse with him on that directly. And not take up more space here about it.


BTW... Scott... congratulations. This is no doubt, the tip of the iceberg.



Hey JT you mind if I copy this and send it to Rick? I just want to share the LOVE.

[DaveRothe]

This thread needs to continue to teach guys like Rick who believe they'll hire people from the industry and f-ck them over , they will get paid back. People can see this thread as an example of what happens when you try and swerve the talented people .

Amen! HAllelujah brother!!! You're preaching to the choir!;)

[Gail Simone]

Just letting everyone know that I have won a lawsuit this morning that was filed against Rick Olney dba Tightlip Entertainment. Olney did not heed the court summons that was delivered to him by the Herkimer Sheriffs dept on January 11, 2007, resulting in a win today by default of his no-show in court.

For those unaware of my case, I sued Rick for 2 unpaid invoices totaling over $2,400.00. Rick acknowledged and then attempted to avoid responsibility to these debts. I made every attempt to settle the matter with him outside of court, to no avail. He paid my efforts with insults, public defamation of character, lies, accusations and threats.

I won't be publicly responding here about this, beyond this post. The reason for this is that I have already invested quite a few hours over the last several months in dealing with him via email, and monitoring his online activity in this and other forums. The stress this has caused me and my family cannot be understated. I simply want to move forward at this point and pursue collecting the debt now that the trial is over.

Filing a lawsuit in small claims court is easy. For those who are in a similar situation, but hesitate to take action, just call your local county clerks office and ask for the forms needed to file a small claims lawsuit. Some places even have online forms. You won't need legal representation. The filing fee was $155.00 in my case, but it will likely vary state by state, and according to the amount you are suing for. In the state of Florida, I was able to file the lawsuit here, because this is the state where the services were rendered. I then had the Herkimer County Sheriffs office deliver the summons to Olney, which cost $25.00.

The only challenging aspect of this was in preparing evidence for the judge. I had several months worth of evidence, in the form of emails which had to be organized and printed out, (and the work itself, in the form of original art and digital files) and then quite a lot of work was involved in preparing my case. I also had to print out and organize all of the original art created for Olney, along with printed copies of the site design and associated graphics.

Without Mark Waid's generosity, it would have likely taken me far longer to actually file the lawsuit. Although I had my paperwork ready, I was still scrambling to make up for the loss of income, and each time I was sure I was ready to file, some bill would take precedence. I am a full-time freelancer, so when a client doesn't pay for a big project, I'm suddenly in a lot of trouble, because I had to turn down other paying work in order to meet his deadlines.

If you were Olney'd, and have more questions about the filing process, please PM me. I'm happy to help out however I can.

Lastly, thanks to Matt Martin and Papergirl, for driving up to show their support this morning.


All I have to say is CONGRATULATIONS, you've earned a rest, and BLOODY GOOD JOB, YOU!

Gail

[Inkpot1965]

Skidmark? You lost a court case today. Have you stocked up on beer? When is the next online session?

Why do you refer to JT's invoice to you for pay as "supposed"? I was there. You DO owe him money, just as you owe me money. Just as....and it goes on.

Open the checkbook.

[Guapo Méndez]

http://www.dimenticatoio.it/images/1/1b/La-balena-giuseppina2.jpg.ashx
There was a cartoon about a size-changing whale, ages ago. I'm not sure if it was made in Spain or Italy. Lasted for quite a while. The premise was about how the whale helped out Santi -the kid- in dealing with life and growing up.

The whole concept may be completely alien to Onley.

[Gail Simone]

True badasses let their ties flap in the wind. It's more badass when the tie itself takes out someone's eye.

JLK
true badass

Matt is so badass he could go there in a leisure suit and still destroy his enemies.

Gail

[Inkpot1965]

I think Skidmark is old enough to have been influenced by the movie
The Incredible Mr. Limpet with Don Knotts.

[DaveRothe]

http://www.dimenticatoio.it/images/1/1b/La-balena-giuseppina2.jpg.ashx
There was a cartoon about a size-changing whale, ages ago. I'm not sure if it was made in Spain or Italy. Lasted for quite a while. The premise was about how the whale helped out Santi -the kid- in dealing with life and growing up.

The whole concept may be completely alien to Onley.

Alien in regards to Rick dealing with life or growing up? Either way...

[WMDude]

New to the site, but I learned about this from comixtreme. I've spent the last 2 hours looking over this whole thing, and I have to say... this Rick fella is a loon. Just thought I'd put that out there, though its apparent that's not an uncommon sentiment here.

[Inkpot1965]

Dude, welcome to the land of Tight wads and Tight lips.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Matt is so badass he could go there in a leisure suit and still destroy his enemies.

Gail

I love you in a totally inappropriate way now.

[Jared H.]

Congrats to Scott, and great pic there Matt!

Man, the mudita for Scott and the schadenfreude for Rick is almost tangible today!

I await the next trial's outcome with bated breath.

Anyone else think Rick will be too scared to show his face around here again? He had more hot air than the Hindenburg(ok, hydrogen. the metaphor still works), and now he's coming down the same way: in flames.

btw: just managed to finish the first two issues of "Rummblestrips"(haven't finished them all; I'm easily distracted). It's a great book; ya'll should check it out.

[Gail Simone]

I found this thread a couple nights ago, via some Googlicious serendipity.

I've read through the whole thing. My eyes are very tired. But it seems to be a story with a happy ending. Congratulations--with a side of awe!--to those of you who actually took the time to address the issue.

Which means, as a matter of fact, all of you. You stood up to a bully, and you stood together.

I hate bullies and bullyism. As a kid I didn't have the guts to stand up to them. I stood aside when they picked in others. In that--I disgraced myself.

It doesn't matter, not really, if in some sense the bully "can't help it". He can look at the facts, acknowedge his conduct, make amends and not excuses, and demonstrate that he cares and is trying.

Sometimes--yes, it really does matter who started it.

I've dropped in because I'm also doing what I can to fight a bully.

I'm not connected to the comics industry, don't know some of the terminology in this thread, and have no insight with respect to the legal issues involved. I'd never heard of your Rick Olney until two days ago. Yet I recognized him.

Because in my microcorner of the multiverse--boys series books (ie, Hardy Boys, Tom Swift, etc)--we have our own version, who involves himself under many pseudonyms, insults, rants, disparages, bars, blocks--and is allowed to get away with it because no one has the time or energy to devote to making forceful answer.

Given your experience of Mr. Olney and the statement, noted more than once, that he makes use of sockpuppets and pseudonyms...

Do any of the following names ring a bell?

Hank Heyman
Bob Finnan
Tom Ippolito
Jerry Abbot (aka David Wayne Sims)
(Joseph) Cal Deal

--stating clearly that the appearance of a name on this list means only that I've run across it in some context on my internet wanderings with regard to this matter.

You have my admiration and my thanks.

Scott Dickerson
Tom Swift Lives! fan fiction


Welcome, Scott, and yeah, I'm proud of everyone here for putting a stop to this guy's decade-long run of cheating people.

We'll keep an eye out for those names! ;)

Gail

[JTPencils]

JT,
Is it really cowering? Or is it [like myself] trying desperately to avoid going through the pain of getting ready for a court case?[lazy streak, I admit it] It's something I would only do as an absolute last resort. But then again, if unavoidable, we might as well go all the way. There are so many avenues open to hammering Skidmark in court. He practically leaves road signs.

You're right.... it's not really cowering I guess. More of a defeatist "what's the sense" attitude I suppose. But seeing the "strength" in numbers attitude (as far as standing up for what's right) that permeates here... I guess I just felt a little ridiculous for not having the impetus to do this before.

[JTPencils]

Well, considering your talking about a guy who thinks he's a Star Wars action figure, I guess not.

So you're treating Matt to HOOTERS?!! WOOHOO!

Naturally. Gotta give the guy something else to look forward to... not just the meltdown (or no show) of YOR.

[sk716]

I just want to let everyone who follows this thread but no other on YABS know that the Unscrewed! Auctions (http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/advt/ebay/index.php) have begun.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZzapow21QQhtZ-1

Go bid on stuff!!!

And everybody give Tom a hug for all of his work in making the auction happen.

[rummblestrips]

Congrats to Scott, and great pic there Matt!

Man, the mudita for Scott and the schadenfreude for Rick is almost tangible today!

I await the next trial's outcome with bated breath.

Anyone else think Rick will be too scared to show his face around here again? He had more hot air than the Hindenburg(ok, hydrogen. the metaphor still works), and now he's coming down the same way: in flames.

btw: just managed to finish the first two issues of "Rummblestrips"(haven't finished them all; I'm easily distracted). It's a great book; ya'll should check it out.

If I could find an IBLUSH icon, I would put it right here.
Thanks very much.

[JTPencils]

personally I'd be very sad to see this thread close. It's done so much for so many, it'd be like I dunno, having to put down your favorite pet. :p

It has devolved many times. But you know it's like Gail says, this thing has become a creature in and of itself. I say leave it alone and use Unscrewed! as the repository for archiving legal cases. (which is what its for.)

This thread is also good for that very reason. We let Unscrewed stay a stable professional place and this is sort of a place where we can hang out and be ourselves! :)

Like I dunno a cop bar or something!

I hadn't even thought of that Danny. Perhaps I should post my interactions with YOR over on Unscrewed! instead? I just want to keep it public, so if there's ever any question of "you did NOT say that" or whatever, I've got some coverage.

If my posts were derailing the topic here... I do apologize folks!

[JTPencils]

Hey JT you mind if I copy this and send it to Rick? I just want to share the LOVE.

You can if you want... but I'd advise changing the name and such. Doubtful even YOR's THAT dense.

[DaveRothe]

I just want to let everyone who follows this thread but no other on YABS know that the Unscrewed! Auctions (http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/advt/ebay/index.php) have begun.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZzapow21QQhtZ-1

Go bid on stuff!!!

And everybody give Tom a hug for all of his work in making the auction happen.

Can we just give him a noogie instead?:)

[Jared H.]

If I could find an IBLUSH icon, I would put it right here.
Thanks very much.

The pleasure has been all mine in the reading. I really like your art style, by the way. And thanks for the signing and personalization!

[The DarkMind]

Hi everybody, long time reader, first time writer. I really don't feel like going back the 10 or 20 pages to pull the quote but someone had asked if more could have been awarded in the lawsuit judgement.

Since the defendant was a no-show, the amount sought is automatically awarded to the plaintiff. However, on the other hand if he HAD shown up, with the evidence against him the judge could and probably would award the maximum amount in Florida small claims of $5,000 without it being asked for citing interest accumulated on the debt owed.

While I congratulate the plaintiff on the win of the suit... I can't help but feel let down by the defendant cutting his losses and taking the easy way out by not showing up for court. I would have liked to see a much larger judgement be awarded as I had to deal with an eerily similar scenario for web site creation, maintenance, and graphic design..oddly enough with someone with the same initials that pulled a lot of the same underhand things I've read about here (not paying people, running events for charities and not donating any of the money collected to said charity, etc etc)

[JTPencils]

Speaking of interest on the amount due... how was that decided? Matt, if you or Scott, or anyone who might know... would care to discuss that more privately, just PM me. I'm not exactly sure how that aspect works. Was it decided by the judge... was it applied for by Scott... that sort of thing.

Thanks.

[Gail Simone]

I just want to let everyone who follows this thread but no other on YABS know that the Unscrewed! Auctions (http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/advt/ebay/index.php) have begun.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZzapow21QQhtZ-1

Go bid on stuff!!!

And everybody give Tom a hug for all of his work in making the auction happen.

Wow, there's some big name talent up there.

Sometimes I love this community!

Gail

[Jared H.]

Hopefully the success here will have a snowballing effect on those too afraid to pursue litigation before. The first steps have been taken, the precedent has been set. Hopefully any creators who were undecided before on whether to take action now have that little bit of extra incentive to get things moving.

-Jared, who really wishes he could give everyone in this thread a high-five right about now.

[CitC]

Sounds like some serious stuff is going now. I was a part of all of this, but I fell away after about page 6-7 thousand. Can I get the bullet points on what the major things are now? Looks like Rick was supposed to go to court??

[Jared H.]

Sounds like some serious stuff is going now. I was a part of all of this, but I fell away after about page 6-7 thousand. Can I get the bullet points on what the major things are now? Looks like Rick was supposed to go to court??

Rick has lost two court cases(only the latter of which we have any details on), with more on the way.

Also, Olney had a major drunken meltdown the other night.

In short: he is well and truly fucked.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Speaking of interest on the amount due... how was that decided? Matt, if you or Scott, or anyone who might know... would care to discuss that more privately, just PM me. I'm not exactly sure how that aspect works. Was it decided by the judge... was it applied for by Scott... that sort of thing.

Thanks.

I don't think this is private...so:

The judge states it. I don't think Scott was expecting it. And the interest rate went UP this year. So, the longer he takes, the more he owes.


Collecting will be a bear, but it CAN be done. Please. NOBODY LET UP! The only way to make this right is to fix it so that he can never get away with this again. He needs his nose spanked with a roll of court papers. He got a thumping today...more are coming.

And so people know here to send further subpoenas Rick will ignore:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg

[Charles RB]

a political party whose sole raison d'etre was basically renewed cleansing of the french from canada.

What possible reason can there be for "cleansing" French-Canadians from 21st Century Canada? What does the party think you were going to do? Do bilingual street signs make them feel impotent or something?

I'm sure there's some long-standing historical/cultural reason behind this, but it sounds like someone running a party for the sole purpose of "cleansing" Britain of the Welsh - bloody daft.

[DocAbsurd]

From 1967 to 1969, Hanna-Barbera produced Moby Dick and the Mighty Mightor.

From the Toonopedia (http://www.toonopedia.com/mobydick.htm) entry:

' The Hanna-Barbera Studio is widely known for taking concepts from other studios and even other media, and making their own cartoons about them. But in Moby Dick, which was the back segment to The Mighty Mightor, they didn't even swipe the concept — all they did was take a name that was familiar to the public, tho in the public domain, and wrap a typical Hanna-Barbera cartoon around it.

Melville's Moby Dick, hereinafter referred to as the "real" Moby Dick, was less a character than an obsession. He wasn't friendly, sympathetic, well-rounded, or anything else we expect a cartoon protagonist to be. Hanna-Barbera's version started off by rescuing a couple of boys, Tom and Tub, following a shipwreck, something it would be hard to imagine the real Moby being caught dead doing. Afterward, he became their pal, which violates everything we know about Moby Dick. Their multi-species band was rounded out by Scooby (no relation), their pet seal. The four went adventuring on the high seas on CBS, starting September 9, 1967. Incredibly, this went on for two seasons, totalling 36 episodes.

Tom was voiced by Bobby Resnick, who seems to have few if any acting credits at all, either face or voice. Tub was Barry Balkin, who seems to have even fewer. The two non-humans were both done by Don Messick, who, from The Jetsons' Astro to Shazzan's Kaboobie the Camel, was the studio's go-to man for non-human voices.

Moby Dick had no real spin-offs, tho he did do an unlikely crossover or two with the likes of Dino Boy in the Lost Valley. He also didn't have a comic book, tho he did appear in a few stories in Gold Key's Hanna-Barbera's Super TV Heroes, alongside such superheroes as Birdman and Young Samson.

After he went off the air, he sank into obscurity.'

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/Moby-dick-mightor.jpg

Now that's the whale-as-rescuer-and-protector concept. The whole imaginary-yet-real-to-the-child concept is lifted both from Bill Watterson's Calvin and Hobbes':

http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~vdhar2/calvin-hobbes.jpg

and Mike Kunkel's 'Herobear':

http://www.rabbitvalley.com/image_cache/3240.jpg.

Olney couldn't catch an original idea if it was a communicable disease.




Doc 'Suppose the Kid Got Bit by a Radioactive Orca' Absurd

[THEDOC]

It's easier to copy the content of your screen with the obscure "print" key on the top of your keyboard and then do a "ctr-v" in any image software (paint, corel, photoshop etc.).

Really! Ah the wonders of technology. Thanks for that info.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Hi everybody, long time reader, first time writer. I really don't feel like going back the 10 or 20 pages to pull the quote but someone had asked if more could have been awarded in the lawsuit judgement.

Since the defendant was a no-show, the amount sought is automatically awarded to the plaintiff. However, on the other hand if he HAD shown up, with the evidence against him the judge could and probably would award the maximum amount in Florida small claims of $5,000 without it being asked for citing interest accumulated on the debt owed.

While I congratulate the plaintiff on the win of the suit... I can't help but feel let down by the defendant cutting his losses and taking the easy way out by not showing up for court. I would have liked to see a much larger judgement be awarded as I had to deal with an eerily similar scenario for web site creation, maintenance, and graphic design..oddly enough with someone with the same initials that pulled a lot of the same underhand things I've read about here (not paying people, running events for charities and not donating any of the money collected to said charity, etc etc)

I think (and stress think) that he could have actually bought some time had he shown up. They would have attempted mediation, and upon that failing, would have scheduled a future hearing.

But as no-nonsense as the judge was, she may have asked the bailiff to stun-gun him and take his wallet.


At least that was what I was sending to her via mental fax.

[JTPencils]

I don't think this is private...so:

The judge states it. I don't think Scott was expecting it. And the interest rate went UP this year. So, the longer he takes, the more he owes.


Collecting will be a bear, but it CAN be done. Please. NOBODY LET UP! The only way to make this right is to fix it so that he can never get away with this again. He needs his nose spanked with a roll of court papers. He got a thumping today...more are coming.

And so people know here to send further subpoenas Rick will ignore:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg

Got it Matt. Thanks. I just didn't want to bring something out here on the board if it was a private matter. Thanks again.

[Inkpot1965]

Yeah, I remermber Moby Dick. And the old Sinbad cartoon where he pulled his magic belt and swelled up with muscle. Skidmark OLney pulls his magic beer and swells up with B.S.

[DocAbsurd]

Momma got off the phone with our attorney a little while ago.

Believe me, I do so wanna talk.

Believe me.

But knowing Olney's reading this, I am sworn to silence.

Y'see, this is what happens when you're truly 'lawyered up': your attorney -- who isn't on a crack team -- advises you to maintain silence about any and all details about any and all potential cases.

I really shouldn't be saying this much, but I wanna know I'm sitting behind the desk and being creative after making Porkbelly squirm.





Doc 'Squeal' Absurd

[JTPencils]

I remember also the old "Young Sampson and Goliath" 'toons as well. Not great animation, but it had a sense of adventure (or as far as I could tell as a young lad). Seeing them again later on (thank you Boomerang)... it's not so much. What I could never understand was this... Sampson went from a young lad to a muscular God-like figure (the Shazam folks must have been fuming... but it was a mystical name vs "power bands")... yet the dog became an enormous lion. Ummmmmm... talk about complete transformation... a full change of species! That had to have been difficult to pull off!

[THEDOC]

Just letting everyone know that I have won a lawsuit this morning that was filed against Rick Olney dba Tightlip Entertainment. Olney did not heed the court summons that was delivered to him by the Herkimer Sheriffs dept on January 11, 2007, resulting in a win today by default of his no-show in court.

For those unaware of my case, I sued Rick for 2 unpaid invoices totaling over $2,400.00. Rick acknowledged and then attempted to avoid responsibility to these debts. I made every attempt to settle the matter with him outside of court, to no avail. He paid my efforts with insults, public defamation of character, lies, accusations and threats.

I won't be publicly responding here about this, beyond this post. The reason for this is that I have already invested quite a few hours over the last several months in dealing with him via email, and monitoring his online activity in this and other forums. The stress this has caused me and my family cannot be understated. I simply want to move forward at this point and pursue collecting the debt now that the trial is over.

Filing a lawsuit in small claims court is easy. For those who are in a similar situation, but hesitate to take action, just call your local county clerks office and ask for the forms needed to file a small claims lawsuit. Some places even have online forms. You won't need legal representation. The filing fee was $155.00 in my case, but it will likely vary state by state, and according to the amount you are suing for. In the state of Florida, I was able to file the lawsuit here, because this is the state where the services were rendered. I then had the Herkimer County Sheriffs office deliver the summons to Olney, which cost $25.00.

The only challenging aspect of this was in preparing evidence for the judge. I had several months worth of evidence, in the form of emails which had to be organized and printed out, (and the work itself, in the form of original art and digital files) and then quite a lot of work was involved in preparing my case. I also had to print out and organize all of the original art created for Olney, along with printed copies of the site design and associated graphics.

Without Mark Waid's generosity, it would have likely taken me far longer to actually file the lawsuit. Although I had my paperwork ready, I was still scrambling to make up for the loss of income, and each time I was sure I was ready to file, some bill would take precedence. I am a full-time freelancer, so when a client doesn't pay for a big project, I'm suddenly in a lot of trouble, because I had to turn down other paying work in order to meet his deadlines.

If you were Olney'd, and have more questions about the filing process, please PM me. I'm happy to help out however I can.

Lastly, thanks to Matt Martin and Papergirl, for driving up to show their support this morning.

Way to go Scott and to Matt, Bev and especially Mark

[bluecove]

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[Inkpot1965]

I remember also the old Sampson and Goliath 'toons as well. Not great animation, but it had a sense of adventure (or as far as I could tell as a young lad). Seeing them again later on (thank you Boomerang)... it's not so much. What I could never understand was this... Sampson went from a young lad to a muscular God-like figure (the Shazam folks must have been fuming... but it was a mystical name vs "power bands")... yet the dog became an enormous lion. Ummmmmm... talk about complete transformation... a full change of species! That had to have been difficult to pull off!

So it should've been like the cat in He-man, right?

[The DarkMind]

I'm not sure if this had been brought up somewhere, but given the recurrent theme here, I have to wonder why the creators have not banded together, pooled their resources, and filed a class action lawsuit.

Granted a multitude of small claims lawsuits resulting in judgements against Olney are more enjoyable to watch unfold, a large scale thing like a class action would be sure to get the job done and send a stronger message to the scumbags lurking in the industry that we as creators are not going to stand for these type of business dealings any longer.

I'm sure money is a large part of a class action not being filed, but if there are as many people that have been wronged as there appear to be it could probably only run about $10 per person to file the suit. The main expense then would be lawyer fees (but you can always include those costs in the amount of the lawsuit).

Hell, it almost makes me wish I was one of the many screwed over since I have free legal services through my employer now. I would have been happy to start a class action and let everyone jump on board:D

[THEDOC]

First of all, congratulations to all involved in the first of hopefully many judgements to be smote upon The Stinky One!



Hi, Glen, long time no read! I miss the old trivia games!

Ah, yes, it was back in '99 or '00 (or someyear around there) when the wife and I and faithful Siberian Husky Nadja made a leisurely and lovely RV trip from the cornfields of Indiana into the wilds of Pennsylvania, ending up at that year's PittCon. Guests such as Al Williamson, Denis Kitchen, Mike Kaluta, Evan Dorkin, and others were the lure for our attending, but another aspect was that Rick Olney, with whom I'd had a myriad of cyber-altercations at Comicon.com and had become intrigued as to just how nuts this putz was, had announced that there would be an O.R.C.A. panel at the convention. Color us there!

Despite a dearth of information available at their rarely-attended-to table (never saw Olney there on my few passes by) and, as I recall, no edification in the con program, I managed to locate the correct room as the previous panel was letting out. Oddly, as I wandered to the back of the room to get a much-needed glass of water, I realized that no one else was coming in. At the front of the room (one, by the way, about the size of a small classroom) stood, as I was soon to discover, Rick Olney, his sidekick Dennis Kiniger, and a few others in the O.R.C.A. "brain" trust. I sat about halfway back, not wanting to get too intimate (though still blissfully unaware of his hygenic issues), took a drink from my glass and wished it was Scotch.

The next twenty or thirty minutes were interminably boring, with Olney pontificating to me directly about the wonders of O.R.C.A., blah blah blah; no one else said a flippin' word. When he got to the part about signing up and contributions, I politely declined and got the hell out of there.

The rest of the con and our trip was great, and when I got home I wrote a long essay (much longer than this - you should be thanking me for sparing you that account) which I posted at Comicon.com's messageboards. There I found Olney attempting to spin the panel as a triumphant success. That hot-air balloon got burst damned quick.

Anyway, the observations by Scott Shaw and others regarding Olney's posting patterns are spot on. I don't believe he was drunk during this last meltdown, either...I've seen it played out on at least a dozen occasions. Every time it's been incredibly amusing to watch this pantload self-immolate. But even though it's not been very funny this time, there is the very gratifying possibility that this will be the last time.

Here's hoping.

That was one informative report. We should have Dark Moments in Comic Con History and this should be #1.

[rummblestrips]

Scott
Congratulations on a successful day. I know there's more to come, but this is a huge step towards forcing Rick to take responsibility for his actions, AND more importantly, restoring your Peace of Mind.

I hope every single creator that has been harmed financially by Rick takes this road.
I don't post as much as others here, but I do want to show my support for everyone of you. Don't be afraid of Rick, don't let him intimidate you into silence!

[JTPencils]

So it should've been like the cat in He-man, right?

Exactly. Cringer to Battle Cat was still a feline based character. (Though Orko plain drove me nuts... any episode focusing on him made me want to toss my TV out the window).

[THEDOC]

Hank Heyman ? Thats a pretty funny story Tony. I'm glad he went away because he does sound like a messed up guy.

Gee ECW, you think he might be related to Paul?