Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Reverend Smooth]

The thing that gets me the most is what a tin ear he seems to have for the requirements and responsibilities of business. However unrealistic it may be, he still wants to produce comics, not to mention MiniCons. To run a business, you must be a good businessman. The reputation attached to yourself and your company is exceptionally important; you also need to stay on good terms with the those who will ultimately consume your product. Anyone who sees even part of yesterday’s meltdown will never take Tightlip or Olney seriously again. Would you want to have business dealings with a man who’s shown himself to be an misogynistic, racist, homophobic deadbeat? Even if he DID manage to somehow produce a comic, no one would stock it.Quoted for emphasis.

[Linkara]

I have to admit, I just like to see the monkey dance.

It cracks me up, after all the crap he's pulled on creators.

Gail

Ooh! Gail, any chance we could see the comic he wrote that you mentioned a while ago? The fanfic one with the horrible writing? ^_~

[Coppervale Studio]

Tony Isabella is the original Nexus of all Comic Book Realities.

Really.

In a STACK of old Comics Journal interviews I've been rereading, you'd be AMAZED at how many creators credit Tony's influence in getting them their first gigs. And not benchwarmers, either. Guys like Byrne and Perez were naming him.

I know that a lot of retailers took chances on my books back in the day in large part because of a recommendation from Tony that was so keen I STILL use it on the back of new editions.

That's the same kind of support he's given to people on this board. And the same kind of support others have lost because they've taken unwarranted shots at him.

Power and influence isn't always flashy and in your face. Sometimes it's quiet and subtle, and all the more effective because of that.

James

[TVerBeek]

I'm lawyered upThe expression "lawyered up" generally refers to a criminal suspect exercising his Fifth Amendment/Miranda right to silence to avoid self-incrimination. Not really a flattering choice of words to use in the court of public opinion. The courts treat it differently, of course, but to most people it sounds like an admission of wrong-doing. And the thing is... you haven't lawyered up.

Rick, I'm a non-combatant in this war, and popped my head in here only because a friend thought I'd find it an interesting legal case. But what I find most interesting about it is the posture you're taking here. Surely your legal advisers have cautioned you about discussing the case in public, and in particular with the very parties with whom you have a complaint. I'd strongly suggest you listen to their advice. (And on the off chance they haven't given you this advice, I'd even more strongly suggest you consult with someone who's more on-the-ball than that. I can try to recommend a qualified specialist in your area if you'd like.)

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Since no one commented on my earlier "apology" for last nite's actions... I'll have to rethink... and assume I wasn't as out of line as I thought I was.

Hmmmmmmmm... ignore him next time around eh? A good idea,... but it's like a 30 car train wreck... you don't WANT to look, but you just can't help yourself!

Considering everything he said last night I don't see the need. Everyone gets angry and no one can blame you with this guy.

JP

[Coppervale Studio]

And, uh, while I do like her writing and all, and realize that even if she quit NOW, there's enough work in print that the quality and popularity will never be questioned, I mostly started reading Gail's stuff because:

1) she once made some nice remarks about an anecdote I related hereabouts somewhere, and I am easily charmed;

and 2) I think she's pretty. And I'm a soft touch for someone pretty AND sharp.

James

[GCom]

I'm betting that I can ripe your head off and shit down your neck and give you more satisfaction than when you're watchin' your brand of selective viewing.

No shame in being a person with no balls to serve your country, you lil girl. Be proud that you enjoy your freedom at the expense of others, you liberal piece of shit.

I simply cannot WAIT for Pitt Comicon this year. I'll be there.



With Tolerance For Anticipation...

GCom

[Inkpot1965]

And I would suggest that no matter how insulting or even foul-mouthed we may get, we STILL have the moral highground over Rick. After all, WE didn't shaft anyone out of the pay they earned. WE are the ones who got shafted. Well, some of us. And when I get shafted, my sense of compassion is not large. Petty, maybe. But I'll save my compassion for the shafted. I didn't go anywhere near as far as some here last night. But I say "what the Hell". Maybe the shafted need some time to vent too.

[GCom]

You wanted to punch me real bad once upon a time. Drag that dog ass of yours across country to Pittsburgh. I want to see if you swing your hands as mighty as you shoot your fat mouth off.

Pussy.

Oh wow. I'll skip panels for this. Mr. Olney, please show up and do it!



With Tolerance For Being All Jittery...

GCom

[LomiMonet]

Melting character.
Sautéed well in the whisky.
Make time pass quickly.


Work just flew by today! Thanks guys. :)

[Samuel Catalino]

I simply cannot WAIT for Pitt Comicon this year. I'll be there.



With Tolerance For Anticipation...

GCom


GCom,

My money is that he will not be there. Yet, you can meet Glenn Barbis, a really nice fellow though. Bill Lange will probably be there too.

Best,

Samuel

[willtupper]

Hey! Hey!

New guy has another question :D.

I went to his "Mighty Mini-Con" website, just to see what it looks like. What stuck me most was this:

Admission:
$$25.00 each day


$25.00 a DAY? For WHAT?

A pizza bagel and bite-size Snickers?

The Motor City Comic Con, which this year will have guests like Sergio Aragones, David Mack, Wm Messner Loebs, Stan Sakai, and more media people than you can shake a stick at...

...costs only $20.00 a day.

Yes. Motor City costs LESS per day than the "Mighty" Mini-Con.

How can this be? I mean, besides that it's put on by Rick Olney. I mean, seriously? Who does he plan to have there? The ghost of Jack Kirby?

[Samuel Catalino]

Hey! Hey!

New guy has another question :D.

I went to his "Mighty Mini-Con" website, just to see what it looks like. What stuck me most was this:

Admission:
$$25.00 each day


$25.00 a DAY? For WHAT?

A pizza bagel and bite-size Snickers?

The Motor City Comic Con, which this year will have guests like Sergio Aragones, David Mack, Wm Messner Loebs, Stan Sakai, and more media people than you can shake a stick at...

...costs only $20.00 a day.

Yes. Motor City costs LESS per day than the "Mighty" Mini-Con.

How can this be? I mean, besides that it's put on by Rick Olney. I mean, seriously? Who does he plan to have there? The ghost of Jack Kirby?

That is based on the assumption that the con actually takes place.

[Linkara]

FallCon in Minnesota only cost me $10, $9 if you donated a canned food item. And Marscon in a month will only cost like $6, IIRC. :p

[Danny Donovan]

That is from the GRIM ONE group.

I got kicked off there.


Weird, I'm still on the group but never got that message.

then again I haven't gotten a lot of e-mails I should today..

someone must be clogging the inter tubes.

:p

[Reverend Smooth]

someone must be clogging the inter tubes.Olney, with all the stupid shit he's been spewing?

[Larime]

Scientific Name: Ricardus Olneyae
Common Name: The North American Comic Book Weasel
Description: As with the penguin and dodo this creature is winged but flightless, much like its hopes and dreams. It can be identified by its head of thin, balding hair - the rest has migrated to its ears, back and nipples - a distended abdomen and unique body order that it uses as a self-defense mechanism, preventing its predators from getting near enough to harm it.
Diet: An omnivore, it largely subsits on cheetos, funyuns and other artificially produced snack foods. It is a scavanger, relying on its mate and others to bring it the resources it needs.
Habitat: It can most commonly be found in its den, where it sits upon an old, soiled chair, the apholstery of which has begun to graft itself to the creature's flesh. Occasionally it ventures out to gatherings, but because of its general disposition is not a social creature.
Mating Habits: Though it has offspring and a mate, the creature prefers the hindquarters of successful men, upon which it obsesses and frequently talks about inbetween a mating dance that involves it encouraging said men to notice its own bulbous backside. As it has never successfully coupled in this way, it is unknown what the resultant offspring would be.
A photograph of Ricardus Olneyae taken by an intrepid adventurer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/DODO.gif

[Reverend Smooth]

This is why I love you, sweetie.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

That ebay (http://myworld.ebay.com/orcafresh/)profile is hysterical. He doesn't pay anybody! And then I read about him being angry that people "insinuate" he doesn't pay.

And the replies:
Payment WAS mailed as agreed. I will attempt to correct this matter.

Payment was INDEED mailed out as agreed. I will attempt AGAIN to correct this.


How many times has Gail claimed he's said that and how many times has he called her liar. It's like his mantra:
"Payment is on its way"


It is apparently his version of "the check is in the mail"

[Typo Lad]

I love you despite that.

PLEASE remember people are reading this. If Mr. Olney looks like the victim of bullying it weakens the case and gives fuel to him.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

He probably thinks "The check's in the mail" sounds too pedestrian, or common. And he SO wants to be original.

Dang it! If I had just read the whole page first before posting! Ya beat me to it. :cool:

[IvanJim]

To any and all concerned-

I'd be careful about physically approaching Olney in a public setting, even if you were to be absolutely appropriate and cordial. He strikes me as the kind of person who will bluster but cower from confrontation up until he feels he has nothing to lose.

At that point he might well turn out to be the angry kind of person who will choose to go out in a blaze of "glory." The most likely targets of his destructive rage would probably be his wife, someone he'd formerly felt close to, and/or someone who he'd target as the cause of all his problems. Judging from his postings I'd guess that Sam was most at risk, but an unstable mind could well leap to odd conclusions and target someone who might seem like an unexpected choice to a sane mind, and he does seem to have a strong misogynistic component to his personality.

This is all conjecture, and I don't think that he's yet reached this particular point of self-immolation, but I've been aware of this particular unpleasant individual for years and I don't think that his instability is either a posting ploy or an act. Don't change your behaviour, or avoiding going to any event that you want to go to, but if you're actually around him be aware of his alleged love of firearms and the possibility that you might need to think on your toes.

I don't want to alarm anyone, and I'll be delighted if I'm wrong (and percentages say that the scenario I describe is less a possibility than that he'll just slink away), but I'd just like folks to be aware that dealing with unstable and violent personalities does carry some small percentage of risk.

[Reverend Smooth]

My dog would eat his face, unless I got to it first. (Or my wife. Or the mighty, mighty wheels of my husband's power chair.) Not worried.

[Danny Donovan]

Hey! Hey!

New guy has another question :D.

I went to his "Mighty Mini-Con" website, just to see what it looks like. What stuck me most was this:

Admission:
$$25.00 each day


$25.00 a DAY? For WHAT?

A pizza bagel and bite-size Snickers?

The Motor City Comic Con, which this year will have guests like Sergio Aragones, David Mack, Wm Messner Loebs, Stan Sakai, and more media people than you can shake a stick at...

...costs only $20.00 a day.

Yes. Motor City costs LESS per day than the "Mighty" Mini-Con.

How can this be? I mean, besides that it's put on by Rick Olney. I mean, seriously? Who does he plan to have there? The ghost of Jack Kirby?

And might I add the Motor City Con is held twice a year up in Novi MI. It's a really cool little convention.

I went to the tail end of one when I was asked to speak at a library in MI for Teen Read Week.

From what I've heard from certain pros in my address book they won't go near the show. (and have been contacted in the past)

[DocAbsurd]

Weird, I'm still on the group but never got that message.

then again I haven't gotten a lot of e-mails I should today..

someone must be clogging the inter tubes.

:p

Try a good helping of virtual bran. That should flush you out, Danny.

And it had nothing to do with 'being smart'; I buy stuff offa eBay, but I don't sell there. At least not yet. Besides, I wanted payment. He'd stiffed me twice with promises of merchandise.

I just noticed that was from Jim's group, Matt; I haven't been there all day and my daily digest hasn't shown up yet. I'm still gonna take the moral high ground, but I will be informing Jim. Rules apply to everyone, Olney.




Doc 'Google Wheat' Absurd

[Ronée]

QFT!!!

So many cool people, pros and fans.

So many great Ideas and projects(paying ones at that).

And, hell, I admit it; I've got a MAD crush on Sarah, Ronee, Colleen and Bev.

And I'm GAY :eek:

So you can imagine how i feel about the studs around here. ;)I personally LOVE it when a gay man has a crush on me... ;)

[Ronée]

Hell, I'm STRAIGHT and I have those same crushes!

Gail
WOW! Even better still...

*winks at Gail*

[Linkara]

Are straight guys allowed to have crushes on you? :D

[Sarah Beach]

To any and all concerned-

I'd be careful about physically approaching Olney in a public setting, even if you were to be absolutely appropriate and cordial. He strikes me as the kind of person who will bluster but cower from confrontation up until he feels he has nothing to lose.

At that point he might well turn out to be the angry kind of person who will choose to go out in a blaze of "glory." The most likely targets of his destructive rage would probably be his wife, someone he'd formerly felt close to, and/or someone who he'd target as the cause of all his problems. Judging from his postings I'd guess that Sam was most at risk, but an unstable mind could well leap to odd conclusions and target someone who might seem like an unexpected choice to a sane mind, and he does seem to have a strong misogynistic component to his personality.

This is all conjecture, and I don't think that he's yet reached this particular point of self-immolation, but I've been aware of this particular unpleasant individual for years and I don't think that his instability is either a posting ploy or an act. Don't change your behaviour, or avoiding going to any event that you want to go to, but if you're actually around him be aware of his alleged love of firearms and the possibility that you might need to think on your toes.

I don't want to alarm anyone, and I'll be delighted if I'm wrong (and percentages say that the scenario I describe is less a possibility than that he'll just slink away), but I'd just like folks to be aware that dealing with unstable and violent personalities does carry some small percentage of risk.

Ivan, although since I'm in California I'm fairly certain I'm an unlikely target, I've been considering these very points. I'd profiled him as sociopathic, and up to this point so far as I know not actually phyiscally abusive. But as the real life stresses increase, brought on in consequence of his own actions, I think there is a possibility that he might become less restrained and contemplate more direct action. There is a (small) benefit in that he is stuck in Upstate New York, and the targets he'd most like want to get at are in Oregon, California, & Florida. But he is getting less stable.

[Crowley]

I have to admit, I just like to see the monkey dance.

It cracks me up, after all the crap he's pulled on creators.

Gail

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/dancingmonkey.gif

[Ronée]

Yes ma'am.

I am not sure if I was the first sucker, but long before he had you on as PR manager, he asked me to do it. He even offered an hourly pay for it. Hence why I'm rounding off my damages as I am. Instead of the $450 for columns I am adding an additional $50 for the work and the UPFRONT COST TO MYSELF for listing his stupid items.

I'm sure I did more than that but I would feel bad claiming more than $500 considering what he put others (like DocA through)

I must ask Ronnee, did you EVER see any of the items he wanted listed? He just posted pictures on the MMC board for me to use. (not even good pictures, pics he ripped off the internet)

And it never went high enough for him so he never went through with any of the winning bidders (even though I think I did make $250 off his Namors) But because he's going off an Overstreet from 1993, he thinks they're all worth a gazillion dollars each because they're old.

Meh.

Also where's my love? :( I'm just as cute as blake! :pYes you ARE! I actually have a bit of a crush myself ;)

I told him I would not post anything until he sent me some start up monies for the listings, which of course, and say it with me folks... was in the mail! And no, I never saw these wonderful items he was so sure would make money, though I asked for at least pics.

[Ronée]

You've got to understand, Danny, Ronee and I have an arrangement of mutual ego-stroking going back several years. :D

Hell, the woman got my second novel published and directed my first play (first one I wrote, not the first one I performed in). Then she let me be her assistant director later so that I could direct my first show (as a director), which she also performed in. And somewhere in there, she's found the time to shop around various comic books, plays and novels of my making.

I owe the woman tons of love. I'm just flattered that she reciprocates.AND.. I just got the publishing agreement for the play in the mail! As soon as I look it all over I'll get to ya darlin'.

[sk716]

Go take a shit for yourself, Crowley. You're about as anchored in actual accomplishment as Danny Donovan, fer christs sake. Join that SPA group of Shires' and make something of yourself, youngster!

Hmm, funny that. Crowley is on the payroll of an actual publisher. You know, the kind that actually pays people and puts out comics on a regular basis. Looks to me like he already has made something of himself and it's way more than you'll ever do, dipshit.

[Ronée]

Are straight guys allowed to have crushes on you? :DI encourage ANYONE to crush...






yeah, I'm a bit lonely these days :(

[Draconomicon]

My dog would eat his face, unless I got to it first. (Or my wife. Or the mighty, mighty wheels of my husband's power chair.) Not worried.

!!!!!!!!
Omg!
I just now recognize who you are! :X
HOLLOW!
That is the Book you have created/are creating, correct (Larime's Avatar. I remembered that picture from somewhere)??
I read that post of yours and Larime and then something *clicked*.
I thought I had read an interview on Newsarama, but as I searched, I found nothing, which had me stumped. I *do* remember tho to have seen a 4 pages preview of the book somewhere, but I cant find it anymore >_<.

I just want to say that I loved what I have seen of it so far and look forward to getting the issues as soon as my local Comicshop has em.
I am also a great Fan of the "Artesia" books as well as of "The Killer", so this is awesome. :D

I have to say I am terribly impressed with how you manage to still uphold a positive attitude and all. :)

I wish I would find that damn interview again! I am sure it was one! >.<

[Linkara]

I encourage ANYONE to crush...






yeah, I'm a bit lonely these days :(


Awww... *Gives you a kitten and a hug.*

[Crowley]

Hmm, funny that. Crowley is on the payroll of an actual publisher. You know, the kind that actually pays people and puts out comics on a regular basis. Looks to me like he already has made something of himself and it's way more than you'll ever do, dipshit.

Stop that!

don't make me love you more!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I encourage ANYONE to crush...






yeah, I'm a bit lonely these days :(

Even wrestling maniacs ? Are even us wrestling fools allowed ? :)

[Ronée]

Even wrestling maniacs ? Are even us wrestling fools allowed ? :)
Yes EVEN wrestling fans...

besides, though I am not a fan of current wrestling, I am a die hard old school fan from the days of Hulk Hogan and Rick Savage, etc...

[Samuel Catalino]

I encourage ANYONE to crush...






yeah, I'm a bit lonely these days :(

Ronee,

I am sorry you are a bit lonely, but I find it better to be lonely than be in a relationship that is not healthy.

As for crush, my reflection even causes the mirrors to crack, so that would put me out of the picture. Heck, I would turn Medusa to stone.

Best,

Samuel

[Samuel Catalino]

Yes EVEN wrestling fans...

besides, though I am not a fan of current wrestling, I am a die hard old school fan from the days of Hulk Hogan and Rick Savage, etc...

Ronee,

I went to school with Terry Bollea (AKA Hulk Hogan) and the last time I saw him was when he was taking his son and some of his son's friends to Final Destination 2.

Best,

Samuel

[Ronée]

Ronee,

I am sorry you are a bit lonely, but I find it better to be lonely than be in a relationship that is not healthy.

As for crush, my reflection even causes the mirrors to crack, so that would put me out of the picture. Heck, I would turn Medusa to stone.

Best,

SamuelOh I agree... its just a lot to take after ten years NOT being alone.

[Samuel Catalino]

Oh I agree... its just a lot to take after ten years NOT being alone.


Ronee,

Try all of one's life, and with me that is considerable. But that is okay, tomorrow's another day!

Best,

Samuel

[DaveRothe]

I'll take the chance here to apologize to everyone in here for the language last night. Sorry guys and gals. I did sink to his level. But doggonit when I see a bully picking on people left and right and a few are old friends and new well I felt I had to act. Bullies only respond by standing up to them. Maybe not the right approach but I had the best of intentions...:o

[Danny Donovan]

Yes you ARE! I actually have a bit of a crush myself ;)

I told him I would not post anything until he sent me some start up monies for the listings, which of course, and say it with me folks... was in the mail! And no, I never saw these wonderful items he was so sure would make money, though I asked for at least pics.


AWw thank you Ronee! I'm flattered! <3 :o CBR needs more emoticons. like the Yahoo ones. lol.

Well you are much smarter than me! I wanted to help us all get our money, so I tried to get it out there but he wouldn't let me have any of the items to put up, he wouldn't accept his books weren't worth as much as he thought they were.

Anyway *hugs* I'm sorry you're feeling blue, lord knows I have more than my share of that. But you are loved!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Yes EVEN wrestling fans...

besides, though I am not a fan of current wrestling, I am a die hard old school fan from the days of Hulk Hogan and Rick Savage, etc...

I grew up watching THE HULKSTER ....he was like a superhero brought to life. He maybe older but he's always came across as someone who loves the kids.

Hulk vs the Gremlins !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XACDNcj50Zk

Tribute to the Hulkster !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJr0M4Fsu34

Paparazzi Idol ( Randy Savage referance you'll enjoy !)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOsK90Z5fQs

Happy watchin Ronee and your never lonely when ya have us here...

[Jamie Coville]

Yes EVEN wrestling fans...

besides, though I am not a fan of current wrestling, I am a die hard old school fan from the days of Hulk Hogan and Rick Savage, etc...

RANDY Savage. You are probably also thinking of Rick Rude. Men or women don't forget him easily.

- Old school wrestling fan too.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

RANDY Savage. You are probably also thinking of Rick Rude. Men or women don't forget him easily.

- Old school wrestling fan too.


Simply Ravishing ! I used to love watching him hit on all the hot women.

Rude Mocks Pennsyvania !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZb3AGuNC-s

Rude in ECW (Late 90's and still awesome)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFRYZOQmlfY

Anyone remember how he fueded with Jake " The Snake " Roberts ? Awesome stuff as Jake would just cut intense promos without even raising his voice.

[Samuel Catalino]

I'll take the chance here to apologize to everyone in here for the language last night. Sorry guys and gals. I did sink to his level. But doggonit when I see a bully picking on people left and right and a few are old friends and new well I felt I had to act. Bullies only respond by standing up to them. Maybe not the right approach but I had the best of intentions...:o

Dave,

I try to go by the adage that you don't want to deal with a pig in the mud.

The pig likes it and the pig is more experienced at it than you.

Best,

Samuel

[DaveRothe]

Dave,

I try to go by the adage that you don't want to deal with a pig in the mud.

The pig likes it and the pig is more experienced at it than you.

Best,

Samuel

Yeah he wallowed and I followed.

[Reverend Smooth]

I just want to say that I loved what I have seen of it so far and look forward to getting the issues as soon as my local Comicshop has em.
I am also a great Fan of the "Artesia" books as well as of "The Killer", so this is awesome. :DThank you very much for the kind words! We really dig ASP, and were so honored they decided to take us on.

Here is the newsarama (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=102224)thing, and there is also an all the rage column thing here (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/index1.htm) in which they discussed stuff with Larime. XD

This is so cool, thank you for making my day. XD

[Paul D. Storrie]

The last thing I or anyone else needs to do is defend Bob Ingersoll, who is, to put it simply, one of the finest people I know. I would never bother him with Olney's meaningless threats, much less my personal legal business.

Especially since this isn't the first time I've been sued or threatened with a lawsuit.

Especially since I've never lost a lawsuit.

Tony

You're absolutely right about Bob not needing to be defended, but it did give me an opportunity to hint about his having some new stuff coming up!

PDS

[Larime]

!!!!!!!!
Omg!
I just now recognize who you are! :X
HOLLOW!
That is the Book you have created/are creating, correct (Larime's Avatar. I remembered that picture from somewhere)??

Yeah, my avatar is Stan from Hollow. :)

I read that post of yours and Larime and then something *clicked*.
I thought I had read an interview on Newsarama, but as I searched, I found nothing, which had me stumped. I *do* remember tho to have seen a 4 pages preview of the book somewhere, but I cant find it anymore >_<.

Newsarama did a bit on all the new books ASP is putting out. I cannot reccommend them highly enough to ANYONE looking for something more than capes and tights.

I just want to say that I loved what I have seen of it so far and look forward to getting the issues as soon as my local Comicshop has em.
I am also a great Fan of the "Artesia" books as well as of "The Killer", so this is awesome. :D

Artesia's one of my favorite titles on any label.

I have to say I am terribly impressed with how you manage to still uphold a positive attitude and all. :)

I wish I would find that damn interview again! I am sure it was one! >.<

Thanks! We do our best! :o

[Rallura]

The sun will be setting soon.

I found it! This is indeed, RO telling the truth as, somewhere on the earth, the sun was about to be setting! He is capable of it!

Of course, it will probably be weeks before he gives the truth so much as a sideways glance again...

[THEDOC]

Yes EVEN wrestling fans...

besides, though I am not a fan of current wrestling, I am a die hard old school fan from the days of Hulk Hogan and Rick Savage, etc...

I'd have two words for Rick but knowing him he will make hpomophobic joke out of it. Thanks Ronee for recognizing us wrasslin folks.
I jumped a head as I was on page 1007 so I will be backtracking a bit. What a night last night!
Whatcha gonna do Olney when the Ronee-maniacs and cBr runs wild on you. Brother!

[THEDOC]

Last night I brought up Jim Hellwig writing a comic book. He basically wrote it under his character named WARRIOR. And for those who never saw WARRIOR ..here he is in all his glory.


You Now Enter the World of the Warrior !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39b7v1wzfg

Hellwig produced a comic in the 1990's that was so bizzare , so weird that no one still to this day can figure it out. In one issue he tortured Santa Claus. But thats as much sense as you could get from a Warrior comic.

Happy watching and remember...the video should tell you all ya need to know about the Warrior.

I thought he drew as well which from what I saw wasn't great. Ah the days of the Bladerunners!

[Linkara]

The Hulkster vs. Hitler!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqd7X4ReP_4

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The Hulkster vs. Hitler!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqd7X4ReP_4


I loved watching that...Roddy Piper was pretty darn funny using his stealth.

[THEDOC]

I'm about 20 pages away from the end of this thread - took the night off to watch some TV with my wife and sleep - so someone probably responded to this already. But, just in case, here's what I posted:

A message to all my friends and readers...

If you are approached by an individual named Rick Olney or a representive
of this man, if you are approached by Olney or anyone else representing
entities known as The Mighty Mini-Con, TightLip Entertainment, or ORCA, I
strongly urge you to run in the other direction. You can find more details
here:

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/

Please, if you trust me, do not attempt to do business with Olney. In
fact, please pass along this warning to any comics professionals, aspiring
comics professionals, retailers, exhibitors, media guests, and fans you know.

Olney is not someone you want to do business with.

I'd hoped not to involve myself in this in such a public manner, but, with
Olney again advertising a convention and claiming that he is still planning
to publish comic books, the greater good demands I speak out.

Check out the website.

Tony Isabella

Anyone who wishes to repost this warning has my permission to do so. My goal, as always, is to prevent the unaware from doing business with Olney.

P.S. I probably won't be able to keep up with this thread today as I have to do some of that writing stuff that I get paid for. I'll check in now and again to read a few pages, but that's all I can manage today. But, if something demands my attention - and that would exclude anything Olney says - just e-mail me and I'll get on it.


Thanks Tony gonna post on the front page of the IF site. Take that Rick!

[Danny Donovan]

Thanks Tony gonna post on the front page of the IF site. Take that Rick!

I posted it on my Myspace bulletin, and I'll probably throw something up on ye ole el jay.

[Paul Smith]

Only because others seem confused, I am indeed contributing to both the book and the auction (auction contribution being the original art from the 2 page anthology story)

Why?

From Olney’s Myspace blog 1/27/07:

<<Is a lie when you take facts and either stretch them or change the base of the story? What "Gail" is attempting to rumor herself are my private emails within the last 48 hours to first, Tim Eldred and second, to Val Staples. Mr. Eldred is wanting to be paid and hasn't compromised himself regarding his NDA understanding with my company, TightLip Entertainment. In order to pay Mr. Eldred, I have to attempt to re-open communication with Mr. Staples, who, after getting my email, responded with this reply:

With all due respect, the only dialogue that needs to take place is knowing when I will receive payment in full.

Now that was perfectly understandable. Mr. Staples wants to be paid. Likewise, there are certain expectations that I have. So I replied with this email:

"Likewise with all due respect, we can discuss the date and details on your payment after you've removed your posts on that message thread on CBR, and any likewise such expressives, and post an apology. Otherwise, I still intend on making as much of a legal matter where you're concerned as necessary. See... you can get paid, and I can obviously clear the matter of anyone awaiting payment still on the Tales of The Spooky #1 book... but I can't retract your words or clear up what you said. You've demeaned and libeled me. And Val, I am told by my attorney that that has taken place.
Ball to move forward is in your court, sir.">>

Let’s recap: Olney admits screwing Val Staples for Val’s money, AND he’s screwing Val for Tim Eldred’s money, too! This after noting Tim satisfied all obligations. Olney claims the money is right there ready to go, “See... you can get paid, and I can obviously clear the matter of anyone awaiting payment still on the Tales of The Spooky #1 book...” he just won’t pay.

Anyway, that's why I'm in.

(edited to correct date typo from 2/27/07 to the correct 1/27/07)

[Linkara]

Welcome to the good fight, Mr. Smith! :D

[Larime]

Only because others seem confused, I am indeed contributing to both the book and the auction (auction contribution being the original art from the 2 page anthology story)

Why?

From Olney’s Myspace blog 2/27/07:

Blahblahblah...

Shorter Olney: I'll pay Val when Val apologizes for pointing out I never paid him.

[Reverend Smooth]

He really gets off on jerking around industry talent. I mean, really.

[neko onna]

I know it shouldn't shock me with over 1000 pages of the same runaround but good GAWD!!! How thick is his skull?!?!?

His NDA's are worth less than the paper they are printed on(if they even exsist) and he openly admits to having to pay people but is holding it ransom for an apology that they don't owe him?!??!?

he has seriously blown a circut.

[TonyIsabella]

Tony Isabella is the original Nexus of all Comic Book Realities.

Really.

In a STACK of old Comics Journal interviews I've been rereading, you'd be AMAZED at how many creators credit Tony's influence in getting them their first gigs. And not benchwarmers, either. Guys like Byrne and Perez were naming him.

I know that a lot of retailers took chances on my books back in the day in large part because of a recommendation from Tony that was so keen I STILL use it on the back of new editions.

That's the same kind of support he's given to people on this board. And the same kind of support others have lost because they've taken unwarranted shots at him.

Power and influence isn't always flashy and in your face. Sometimes it's quiet and subtle, and all the more effective because of that.

James

Aw, shucks.

Thanks, James.

Tony

[Inkpot1965]

I know it shouldn't shock me with over 1000 pages of the same runaround but good GAWD!!! How thick is his skull?!?!?

His NDA's are worth less than the paper they are printed on(if they even exsist) and he openly admits to having to pay people but is holding it ransom for an apology that they don't owe him?!??!?

he has seriously blown a circut.

Oh, his NDAs DO exist. But I don't see how they could hold up when he himself broke his own contract. I never broke the NDA, and SURPRISE!!!! no money. Then again, we're talking about the guy we saw last night......

[shanejayell]

Ricky is a dicky.

Simple as that.

[Kurt Busiek]

I'm betting that I can ripe your head off

Smells that bad, does he?

kdb

[Danny Donovan]

Only because others seem confused, I am indeed contributing to both the book and the auction (auction contribution being the original art from the 2 page anthology story)

Why?

From Olney’s Myspace blog 2/27/07:

<<snip for the fact that it makes no sense and is irrelevent to anyone getting what their owed.>>


Paul, welcome to the land of the browncoats, adn white hats. It is awesome to see your work, and to have you with us. I am in awe of your body of work, and greatful for your generosity.


When did you snip that bit from his blog? Did he delete it already? Is it THAT bad he goes to all the trouble of posting just to delete it in ten minutes?

We've had some that have likened Rick to The Joker from Batman's rogues gallery, but this pathology, is almost like a riddler, leaving a trail to get caught by.... Or to a lesser extent a ventriloquist. Except Rick's Scarface, unfortionately is the internet.

[JTPencils]

Oh, his NDAs DO exist. But I don't see how they could hold up when he himself broke his own contract. I never broke the NDA, and SURPRISE!!!! no money. Then again, we're talking about the guy we saw last night......

As far as I'm aware Jeff, no one's broken his precious NDA, other then by saying "he didn't pay me". So unless that particular paragraph is in the NDA (and I must have missed it)... "Thou shall not tell the truth about my cheapness"... or some such... then nope... no NDA violation. If it's something OTHER then that, he won't answer the question of "how exactly did I (in regard's to anyone that's done work for him) break the NDA?". A simple enough question that he won't answer. Much like any straightforward question. Of course, him NOT paying is breaking the contract wide open, but he won't admit that. I do know he's made a few offers to pay off some folks, but ONLY if they sign a release. In essence "I'm going to hold your pay that you're duly owed hostage, until you sign this!" Utterly ridiculous, an by doing so, I would think anyone would have the right to THEN go and spout off anything about TLE, it's properties, storylines, or whatever, in open forum's around the world. But they're of such a poor quality,.... one would have to ask... why?

[DaveRothe]

Oh, his NDAs DO exist. But I don't see how they could hold up when he himself broke his own contract. I never broke the NDA, and SURPRISE!!!! no money. Then again, we're talking about the guy we saw last night......

Ah the notorious NDA's.To my understanding the NDA's were about not discussing the properties, characters, storylines and etc. It said nothing about discussing bad business practices by the owner of said company.

[TomStillwell]

I still await Mr. Stillwell with 'bated breath.

Sorry, no word yet back from my source about letting me have any postable evidence.

Give me your e-mail address and I'll forward you what I do have.

Also, come tomorrow, I think we'll have something very awesome to talk about here.

[THEDOC]

I posted it on my Myspace bulletin, and I'll probably throw something up on ye ole el jay.

Posted it on the main page of the IF site so no one misses it.

[THEDOC]

Only because others seem confused, I am indeed contributing to both the book and the auction (auction contribution being the original art from the 2 page anthology story)

Why?

From Olney’s Myspace blog 2/27/07:

<<Is a lie when you take facts and either stretch them or change the base of the story? What "Gail" is attempting to rumor herself are my private emails within the last 48 hours to first, Tim Eldred and second, to Val Staples. Mr. Eldred is wanting to be paid and hasn't compromised himself regarding his NDA understanding with my company, TightLip Entertainment. In order to pay Mr. Eldred, I have to attempt to re-open communication with Mr. Staples, who, after getting my email, responded with this reply:

With all due respect, the only dialogue that needs to take place is knowing when I will receive payment in full.

Now that was perfectly understandable. Mr. Staples wants to be paid. Likewise, there are certain expectations that I have. So I replied with this email:

"Likewise with all due respect, we can discuss the date and details on your payment after you've removed your posts on that message thread on CBR, and any likewise such expressives, and post an apology. Otherwise, I still intend on making as much of a legal matter where you're concerned as necessary. See... you can get paid, and I can obviously clear the matter of anyone awaiting payment still on the Tales of The Spooky #1 book... but I can't retract your words or clear up what you said. You've demeaned and libeled me. And Val, I am told by my attorney that that has taken place.
Ball to move forward is in your court, sir.">>

Let’s recap: Olney admits screwing Val Staples for Val’s money, AND he’s screwing Val for Tim Eldred’s money, too! This after noting Tim satisfied all obligations. Olney claims the money is right there ready to go, “See... you can get paid, and I can obviously clear the matter of anyone awaiting payment still on the Tales of The Spooky #1 book...” he just won’t pay.

Anyway, that's why I'm in.

Great to have you here Paul.

[neko onna]

Oh, his NDAs DO exist. But I don't see how they could hold up when he himself broke his own contract. I never broke the NDA, and SURPRISE!!!! no money. Then again, we're talking about the guy we saw last night......

even so..an NDA has NOTHING to do with payment..that is what the regular contracts are for. And honestly.. I cannot imagine ANYONE of these people have broken an NDA when requesting payment for services rendered. They have nothing to do with each other...but yes.. i will concede..this is coming from a basket case

[DaveRothe]

As far as I'm aware Jeff, no one's broken his precious NDA, other then by saying "he didn't pay me". So unless that particular paragraph is in the NDA (and I must have missed it)... "Thou shall not tell the truth about my cheapness"... or some such... then nope... no NDA violation. If it's something OTHER then that, he won't answer the question of "how exactly did I (in regard's to anyone that's done work for him) break the NDA?". A simple enough question that he won't answer. Much like any straightforward question. Of course, him NOT paying is breaking the contract wide open, but he won't admit that. I do know he's made a few offers to pay off some folks, but ONLY if they sign a release. In essence "I'm going to hold your pay that you're duly owed hostage, until you sign this!" Utterly ridiculous, an by doing so, I would think anyone would have the right to THEN go and spout off anything about TLE, it's properties, storylines, or whatever, in open forum's around the world. But they're of such a poor quality,.... one would have to ask... why?

Ah yes and the good ol' RELEASE. Reminiscent of that Wimpy fellow from Popeye that would "gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." Rick got the hamburger and ate it and Tuesday never came.

[Darediva]

http://www.mightyminicon.com/

Gee, now he has a new mailing address,NO phone number, but wants people to contact him?

And he has the huevos to put the Free Comic Book Day logo on there. Amazing. I just hope no one pays him in advance, although it seems that Paypal would be very interested in someone who is taking advance ticket sale money for a convention that most likely will not happen.

[bert]

Here's mine!

http://www.jimmacq.com/artwork/Horse_Ass-rick.jpg

no no no. . the face should be stuck in the hair down the back of the horse's legs.

that's what diarreaha realy does.

(I didn't know it spent hours online threatening to sue folks, and cursing. . but hey. . live and learn).

[Danny Donovan]

Sorry, no word yet back from my source about letting me have any postable evidence.

Give me your e-mail address and I'll forward you what I do have.

Also, come tomorrow, I think we'll have something very awesome to talk about here.

I'd love to see this info too please!

Impulse545@aol.com

[JTPencils]

Ah the notorious NDA's.To my understanding the NDA's were about not discussing the properties, characters, storylines and etc. It said nothing about discussing bad business practices by the owner of said company.

Exactly Dave. And when I've put it to him directly "HOW did I break it". All I get in return is "You'll see." It would be different if he said "because you did this and this and this" and there were a chance to debate out the assertions... but instead it's just "well you did".. and that's it! No specifics, nothing.

Reminds me of a child having the classic "Oh YEAH!" fight.

Perhaps we weren't supposed to discuss TLE properties, etc etc, to each other? I do remember he tried valiantly to isolate each creator from each other if at all possible. Not only did he not want the right hand to know what the left hand was doing, he didn't even want the fingers on ONE hand know the lowdown on any of the other digits! I'm just supposing here. But if that's the case... he's deluded. If we all signed the same NDA, I'm guessing we ALL could speak to each other.

It's mind numbing really.

[DaveRothe]

no no no. . the face should be stuck in the hair down the back of the horse's legs.

that's what diarreaha realy does.

(I didn't know it spent hours online threatening to sue folks, and cursing. . but hey. . live and learn).

Our sincerest apologies to the horse that had to endure passing this.;)

[willtupper]

Okay. I've got a question about NDAs that maybe one of you awesome folks can answer for me, please.

Like, is that for real? Because maybe it's just me, but isn't there supposed to be only 3 or 4 main stories in the world? Man vs. Man, Man vs. Nature, Man vs. Himself... something like that?

Nothing new under the sun? Somewhere along those lines?

So... does this happen often? Because, maybe it's just me, but it seems like from following "A&E Biography : The Rick Olney Story," he's acting like his precious comic properties (which, from what I've read about them, are preposterious. I wonder how many comic ideas he has where at the end, it all turned out to be a dream? Man! Writing stories in third grade RULED!) are the cure for AIDS or something.

Or at the very least, a cure for herpes. But, for real. Is this a common deal? Are there... unbalanced folks who actually do things like this?

And man, I have spent too much time looking at that face in that horse's ass on my compute screen. "Tales of the Spooky" (or whatever it was called) indeed!

[TomStillwell]

I'll take the chance here to apologize to everyone in here for the language last night. Sorry guys and gals. I did sink to his level. But doggonit when I see a bully picking on people left and right and a few are old friends and new well I felt I had to act. Bullies only respond by standing up to them. Maybe not the right approach but I had the best of intentions...:o

Just don't let any of that potty mouth slip into my comics, mister! They are all-ages!

[DaveRothe]

Here's mine!

http://www.jimmacq.com/artwork/Horse_Ass-rick.jpg

Makes more sense with the picture so I thought I'd repost.

Our sincerest apologies to the horse that had to endure passing this.

[bert]

Fuck youn and goos night, pukee

That really should be on a T-shirt.

Matt?

[TomStillwell]

Paul, welcome to the land of the browncoats, adn white hats. It is awesome to see your work, and to have you with us. I am in awe of your body of work, and greatful for your generosity.


When did you snip that bit from his blog? Did he delete it already? Is it THAT bad he goes to all the trouble of posting just to delete it in ten minutes?

We've had some that have likened Rick to The Joker from Batman's rogues gallery, but this pathology, is almost like a riddler, leaving a trail to get caught by.... Or to a lesser extent a ventriloquist. Except Rick's Scarface, unfortionately is the internet.

No, no.

He's dumb Lex Luthor. Dumb.

Because all that Lex has without his smarts is a whole mess of vanity.

That's Rick.

[Blake Petit]

AND.. I just got the publishing agreement for the play in the mail! As soon as I look it all over I'll get to ya darlin'.

:eek:

Cousin Larry! Now we are so happy, we do the dance of joy!!!

[Paul Smith]

Paul, welcome to the land of the browncoats, adn white hats. It is awesome to see your work, and to have you with us. I am in awe of your body of work, and greatful for your generosity.


When did you snip that bit from his blog? Did he delete it already? Is it THAT bad he goes to all the trouble of posting just to delete it in ten minutes?

We've had some that have likened Rick to The Joker from Batman's rogues gallery, but this pathology, is almost like a riddler, leaving a trail to get caught by.... Or to a lesser extent a ventriloquist. Except Rick's Scarface, unfortionately is the internet.

D'oh!

I blew the date. It should read 1/27/07 and NOT 2/27/07

I became aware of the blog through "coke&comics" post# 11332 on page 756. Because of Olneys known behavior of deleting his tracks, I archived the blog page for future reference. This turned out to be handy as the link no longer works.

Sorry for the typo. Thanx for spotting it.

[TomStillwell]

I'd love to see this info too please!

Impulse545@aol.com

Check your e-mail.

[G-Spot]

Matt, seriously, I think he was drinking all day. I think he drank some and got just far enough along that it lowered his restraint and he decided to post here. And then once here, he just continued. Given how long he went on, it's kind of impressive in an appalling way. Because he had a certain degree of control - to his typing, mostly. The content, the lack of caring, the flat out insulting with no subtlety - those can all be tracked as the effects of drinking. But it wasn't untill he was getting to the end that it really started showing, with the truly bad typos. He types slurring when drunk!

He's not that good a writer or actor, Matt. That was drunk-for-real.

I'm not so sure.

A few years ago, he had a similar meltdown on Comicon, where you could actually see him breaking down in his posts. Last night was just like that. He starts out sidestepping, then goes to the mild blustering and lawsuit threats, then when he starts getting really worked up, the typos, insults, and physical threats start flying.

I think the "drinking" was just another false excuse.

[THEDOC]

Sorry, no word yet back from my source about letting me have any postable evidence.

Give me your e-mail address and I'll forward you what I do have.

Also, come tomorrow, I think we'll have something very awesome to talk about here.

I as well Tom.
doc0715@aol.com

[DaveRothe]

Just don't let any of that potty mouth slip into my comics, mister! They are all-ages!

There goes my plans for issue #4!:p

[bert]

it takes a big man to bite his tongue.

(more fun when someone else does it though)

you promised you wouldn't tell!

It'll be a LONG time before I get into your pants again, mister!

[KevinTBrown]

I found it! This is indeed, RO telling the truth as, somewhere on the earth, the sun was about to be setting! He is capable of it!

Of course, it will probably be weeks before he gives the truth so much as a sideways glance again...

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day..... Just don't give him too much credit for getting one guess right. ;)

[DocAbsurd]

Looks like it's time to post this again.

I present for your delectation, the TLE NDA:

================================================== ==

Confidentiality Agreement.

This Agreement is entered into and is effective as of June 20th, 2006 by and between TightLip Entertainment and Rick Olney, and the entity named below, referred to herein as "Recipient".

Definition of Confidential Information: Each party agrees that all information and materials disclosed by TightLip Entertainment and Rick Olney and Recipient regarding a proposed business deal between the parties, including the terms and conditions of this Agreement and the existence of the discussion between the parties, will be considered and referred to collectively in this Agreement as "Confidential Information". Confidential Information does not include information that is now or subsequently becomes generally available to the public through no fault or breach on the part of either party; either party can demonstrate to have had rightfully in its possession prior to disclosure to the receiving party; is independently developed by either party without the use of any Confidential Information; or either party rightfully obtains from a third party who has the right to transfer or disclose it.

Nondisclosure and Nonuse of Confidential Information: The parties shall not disclose, publish, or otherwise disseminate Confidential Information to anyone other than those of its employees and trusted subcontractors with a need to know, and each party shall take reasonable precautions to prevent any unauthorized use, disclosure, publication, or dissemination of Confidential Information. The parties accept the Confidential Information for the sole purpose of evaluation in connection with either parties' business discussions with each other. Each party shall not use Confidential Information otherwise for its own or any third party's benefit without the prior written approval of an authorized representative of the disclosing party in each instance. The foregoing restrictions on Confidential Information shall not apply to Confidential Information that is required to be disclosed in connection with any suit, action or other dispute related to the Confidential Information, or otherwise required to be disclosed as a matter of law.

Miscellaneous: All Confidential Information remains the property of the disclosing party and no license or other rights to Confidential Information is granted or implied hereby. All Confidential Information is provided "AS IS" and without any warranty, whether express or implied, as to its accuracy or completeness. Each party hereby acknowledges that unauthorized disclosure or use of Confidential Information could cause irreparable harm and significant injury to the disclosing party that may be difficult to ascertain. Accordingly, each party agrees that the disclosing party will have the right to seek and obtain immediate injunctive relief to enforce obligations under this Agreement, in addition to any other rights and remedies each party may have.




Entire Agreement and Governing Law: This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement with respect to the Confidential Information disclosed herein and supersedes all prior or contemporaneous oral or written agreements concerning such Confidential Information. This Agreement may not be amended except by the written agreement signed by authorized representatives of both parties. This agreement will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California, State of New York, and Recipient’s State of home residence, and, excluding that body of individual State laws concerning conflicts of law.
Understood and Agreed to by the duly authorized representative of the parties:

By: Rick Olney Recipient: Tim Toboloski

Rick Olney

Title: Owner/Manager Name:_____________________(Please sign)

TightLip Entertainment

Date: June 20th, 2006 Date:__________________





PLEASE TAKE BEFORE A NOTARY PUBLIC, SIGN, AND RETURN SIGNED COPY TO TIGHTLIP ENTERTAINMENT, c/o RICK OLNEY, 70 West Main Street, Mohawk, New York 13407-1031. THANK YOU.

================================================== ====

Just for giggles, I decided to check into those precious NDAs. Found this (http://inventors.about.com/od/nondisclosure/a/Nondisclosure.htm):

'Nondisclosure agreements sometimes called NDAs or confidentiality agreements are contracts intended to protect information considered to be proprietary or confidential. Parties involved in executing an NDA promise not to divulge secret or protected information disclosed during employment or other business transactions. For example, an NDA is appropriate for prohibiting others from disclosing a new design, an idea for a new Web site, or confidential material contained in a copyrighted software program. Should one of the parties to an NDA use protected information without authorization, a court can stop the violator from making any further disclosures and may award monetary damages.

Nondisclosure agreements can protect any type of trade secret or any information not generally known, providing a competitive advantage.
However, the use of NDAs is not an end in itself. The purpose of these agreements is to create a confidential relationship between one person who has a trade secret and another to whom the secret is disclosed.

Parties can also establish a confidential relationship informally, either through an oral agreement or through the conduct of the parties. Few people rely on such informal arrangements, however. A one-way agreement is used when only one party is making a disclosure—for example, when a secret is explained to a contractor or investor.

A company may require an employee to sign a nondisclosure agreement or modify an agreement furnished by the employee. Generally, it does not matter who furnishes the nondisclosure agreement, so long as it contains the basic elements limiting disclosure.
Five Important Elements in a Nondisclosure Agreement
There are five important elements in a nondisclosure agreement:

* definition of confidential information
* exclusions from confidential information
* obligations of receiving party
* time periods
* miscellaneous provisions'

Now, look over the TLE NDA; tell me if you see all 5 of the above defined. Tell me if you see any of the 5 defined. Cuz I sure as hell don't.




Doc 'NDA POS' Absurd

[Darediva]

There is another ebay listing: http://myworld.ebay.com/rickolney/ Never used to buy or sell, but open for a couple of years.

[Yonar]

There is another ebay listing: http://myworld.ebay.com/rickolney/ Never used to buy or sell, but open for a couple of years.

I saw that one, but lacking activity, and any proof that it was our rick olney, I figured I'd let it lie. :)

[KevinTBrown]

Sorry, no word yet back from my source about letting me have any postable evidence.

Give me your e-mail address and I'll forward you what I do have.

Also, come tomorrow, I think we'll have something very awesome to talk about here.

Tease.....

[DocAbsurd]

And since I was up and about, I checked out the MMC guest list (http://www.mightyminicon.com/guestsevents.asp).

Do the Ghost Hunters know they're still headliners for the impending cancellation this year?

I may be wrong, but I think that may indeed be grounds for a lawsuit. Could someone capture that quick before it becomes one of the mysteries the GH have to investigate?




Doc 'Really Spooky' Absurd

[Yonar]

And a bit of boredome yields that there are at least 3 Rick Olneys in the US who have public phone numbers...

http://www.whitepages.com/9901/log_feature/pers_search_w_email/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=Rick&name=Olney&city_zip=&state_id=&default_listing=phone&extra_listing=mixed

[THEDOC]

There is another ebay listing: http://myworld.ebay.com/rickolney/ Never used to buy or sell, but open for a couple of years.

I can see Rick now. "That is NOT me!! That is ric kolney NOT rick olney!!!!! dammit!!!!!" "hic!"

[SteveForbes]

Oh, and Jim, if you don't feel like going through eleventy billion pages of stuff here's a hitlist of what you missed.

All dudes that don't side with Rick are gay.

All mexicans and anyone with a bit of pigment on their skin are drains on society and should learn to swim because they're going to be bounced out of the country...

(gee, I wonder what Steve would think of that?)

Bev and Sarah are part of a cabal of evil women that want to see patriotic men imprisoned for the good of their communist matriarchy (ok now I'm making things up)

hmmmm..

And Rick is challenging Matt and Mac to a street fight. I would think it's for seperate dates and not a handicap match. (well 2 on one... someone else can make a handicap joke)

And there's a lot of other malarky.

Steve is PAGES behind, and sometimes doubts that he'll ever catch up again, but I've been getting some stuff done the past couple of days. Running around, doing errands, paying bills, and trying to move into another venture with my company. You know- real world stuff that will affect the future of my publishing.

Real publishing. Something YOR wouldn't understand.

Anyway, having a lot of melanin in my skin (that's called "pigment", YOR), and since we "coloreds" are characterized as being rather aggressive, there are tons of things that I could say that would be appropriate. I'm not going to go that route.

I started typing this paragraph a couple of different times. Basically, it's like this:

He's not worth it. Not to me. It comes down to the fact that he's not important. I have a host of other things to spend my energy on. YOR isn't worth it.

YOR is done. We know it, and more importantly, HE knows it. It's just amusing to me watching his self-inflicted self-destruction.

I watched a great movie a couple of weeks ago, called The Secret. It helped to reinforce something for me that I've been trying to avoid. Basically, he's been asking for this for a LONG time, and the universe has finally obliged him.

So, yeah, I'm watching. It's amusing. And I spread the word where I can about it.

Yep.

-(mellow) llama

[Larry Dixon]

I'll add this comment. You may have seen me say, earlier, "In vino, veritas." It's an old saying that means, basically, you discover what someone is REALLY like when they're drunk. It's beyond laughable to me that people use "Oh I was drunk, I didn't mean that!" as an excuse---ever. To me, that is when someone is the MOST honest, and others get to see them in their unvarnished, ugly truth.

Getting someone drunk is a basic interrogation technique. That's the sort of thing that, you know, a Marine would know.

Interestingly, this puts RO in a double bind: If truly drunk, we saw what he's really like inside. If not truly drunk, we saw what he thinks might be a forgivable behavior given the "I was drunk" excuse. It's funny stuff.

Just a couple of thoughts.

[G-Spot]

GCom,

My money is that he will not be there. Yet, you can meet Glenn Barbis, a really nice fellow though. Bill Lange will probably be there too.

Best,

Samuel

Yes, I will be there, as always. Along with the Barbis girls! It's a family vacation of sorts for us.

Man, the deja-vu from all this is scary. Meltdowns. Threats. Challenges. Where's Buckminster Futter when you need him?!? :D If memory serves, he was the lone attendee of Rick's only Pitt-Con panel, and was also similarly challenged for a Pitt-Con brawl once. Hopefully Buck will make the trip, since I had the misfortune of not seeing him last time he made the trek.

And don't get me started on Billy...!!! LOL!!!!! :D

[KevinTBrown]

And since I was up and about, I checked out the MMC guest list (http://www.mightyminicon.com/guestsevents.asp).

Do the Ghost Hunters know they're still headliners for the impending cancellation this year?

I may be wrong, but I think that may indeed be grounds for a lawsuit. Could someone capture that quick before it becomes one of the mysteries the GH have to investigate?




Doc 'Really Spooky' Absurd

Too late, page is not coming up for me.

[KevinTBrown]

And a bit of boredome yields that there are at least 3 Rick Olneys in the US who have public phone numbers...

http://www.whitepages.com/9901/log_feature/pers_search_w_email/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=Rick&name=Olney&city_zip=&state_id=&default_listing=phone&extra_listing=mixed

BUT only one in NY...... :evilsmile

[THEDOC]

All I could do was save it as a text:
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Currently, Zoe is living in upstate NY with her husband, Duncan and two chihuahuas, Ginger and Chai. She enjoys traveling and meeting horror fans and filmmakers. Come meet one of the best horror actors presently in filming! Mick Gray to Guest! Mick Gray has had an interesting career in comics to date. Did you know that he's a Harvey Award nominated Inker? Have you seen *Supergirl & The Legion of Super-Heroes* or his earlier book, *Seven Soldiers of Victory: Zatanna* with Ryan Sook? You can meet and greet Mick at the MMC. Editorial Cartoonist Frank Page will be here! Yes, that's right! Editorial Cartoonist Extraordinaire! Frank Page is the Mohawk Valley's shining smile and patron supporter of squirrels. Just ask Bob! BOB THE SQUIRREL, that is! One other lesser known fact about Frank is that he presently holds a seat on the ORCA Board of Directors. But don't hold that against him, because those chaps have barely begun to examine this, that, and the other yet. But the day will come. 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I have printed the page as it appears on the web and will scan.

[TomStillwell]

And since I was up and about, I checked out the MMC guest list (http://www.mightyminicon.com/guestsevents.asp).

Do the Ghost Hunters know they're still headliners for the impending cancellation this year?

I may be wrong, but I think that may indeed be grounds for a lawsuit. Could someone capture that quick before it becomes one of the mysteries the GH have to investigate?




Doc 'Really Spooky' Absurd

Probably not, but after talking to their good friend Dave Hartman recently, they aren't too pleased with Rick at this point.

Maybe I'll drop Dave an e-mail tomorrow.

[NatGertler]

There is another ebay listing: http://myworld.ebay.com/rickolney/ Never used to buy or sell, but open for a couple of years.The lack of feedback does not mean that it was never used; transactions often occur without feedback.

[Linkara]

Hmmm... Actually, while the NDA is poorly-worded and doesn't seem to fit the five criteria listed, I will note that the first paragraph would indicate that you're not even allowed to talk about HAVING a business deal with him. Maybe that's what he means by having broken the NDA?

Of course, it's then legally challengable as being unlawful since by suing Rick for payment he withheld, it would be revealing that an agreement with Tightlip had been done in the first place.

[CutterMike]

((wait, what am I thinking...he's 52. That dog ain't hunting anymore))

HeyHEYHEY!!

I can't vouch for Rick on this (Thank Rudy!), but SOME of us fat, thinning-haired, 52-year-olds have "dogs" that can hunt with the best of them!

Ageism! That's what it is! Pure, unadulterated ageism! Come over here, ya young whippersnapper, and Ill whack ya with my cane!

[DaveRothe]

Too late, page is not coming up for me.

I got the page. The pics aren't coming up though.:)

[MacQuarrie]

Only ONE who was on this thread last night owes an apology, for his words and a whole lot more. That won't happen.

There's a time to be polite, and there's a time to just say what you feel. Last night was the latter. Today everybody's over the rush and life goes on.

I owe an apology. Not to Rick, but to all the other fine folks here who were subjected to my vitriol and invective. I was unbearably rude.

Beyond that, I was not a particularly good example of what a Christian ought to be. If my kids were to pop in here and read what I posted, they would be quite ashamed of me. So again I apologize to all and sundry.

Now, since I post under my real name so that I have to take responsibility for my words, I won't go back and delete or edit them. I'll leave them to stand in testimony to what an ass I can be at times. Well, I might delete one sentence in there that was needlessly vulgar, but I'll indicate it as an edit.

[TomStillwell]

I was talking with Chuck Satterlee, whose a friend of mine, and was I surprised to hear that Markosia creators wanted to come greet their fans at the September convention. So the following people will be here: Chuck Satterlee, Writer of *Of Bitter Souls*

I'm calling bullshit on this one.

I've talked to Chuck Satterlee about Rick Olney. He's donating to the Unscrewed! auction.

[OzBat!]

Too late, page is not coming up for me.It's showing up okay for me, but none of the images work, he's got the links to his photobucket account screwed up.

[THEDOC]

I owe an apology. Not to Rick, but to all the other fine folks here who were subjected to my vitriol and invective. I was unbearably rude.

Beyond that, I was not a particularly good example of what a Christian ought to be. If my kids were to pop in here and read what I posted, they would be quite ashamed of me. So again I apologize to all and sundry.

Now, since I post under my real name so that I have to take responsibility for my words, I won't go back and delete or edit them. I'll leave them to stand in testimony to what an ass I can be at times. Well, I might delete one sentence in there that was needlessly vulgar, but I'll indicate it as an edit.

Not to worry, you had to say what you had to say. Rick does that to folks.

[Comcman]

I'll add this comment. You may have seen me say, earlier, "In vino, veritas." It's an old saying that means, basically, you discover what someone is REALLY like when they're drunk. It's beyond laughable to me that people use "Oh I was drunk, I didn't mean that!" as an excuse---ever. To me, that is when someone is the MOST honest, and others get to see them in their unvarnished, ugly truth.

Getting someone drunk is a basic interrogation technique. That's the sort of thing that, you know, a Marine would know.

Interestingly, this puts RO in a double bind: If truly drunk, we saw what he's really like inside. If not truly drunk, we saw what he thinks might be a forgivable behavior given the "I was drunk" excuse. It's funny stuff.

Just a couple of thoughts.

The fun part is that he started posting around 9:30AM. Were he to use the "I was drunk" excuse, where would it start?

[MacQuarrie]

Not to worry, you had to say what you had to say. Rick does that to folks.
No, I don't buy that. I do not believe in blaming others for my behavior. He didn't "make me do it". He was an obnoxious and loathsome heap of excrement, and I chose to respond to him in kind. I could have taken the high road.

From now on I'm just going to ask myself "What would Larry Dixon do?"

[DaveRothe]

I owe an apology. Not to Rick, but to all the other fine folks here who were subjected to my vitriol and invective. I was unbearably rude.

Beyond that, I was not a particularly good example of what a Christian ought to be. If my kids were to pop in here and read what I posted, they would be quite ashamed of me. So again I apologize to all and sundry.

Now, since I post under my real name so that I have to take responsibility for my words, I won't go back and delete or edit them. I'll leave them to stand in testimony to what an ass I can be at times. Well, I might delete one sentence in there that was needlessly vulgar, but I'll indicate it as an edit.

Hey MacQuarrie who am I to judge? I did the same thing and let him get the better of me but at least you learned from it.

[d newton]

I can't vouch for Rick on this (Thank Rudy!), but SOME of us fat, thinning-haired, 52-year-olds have "dogs" that can hunt with the best of them!
I think he was talking about the dog being 52, not you.

[JTPencils]

Hmmm... Actually, while the NDA is poorly-worded and doesn't seem to fit the five criteria listed, I will note that the first paragraph would indicate that you're not even allowed to talk about HAVING a business deal with him. Maybe that's what he means by having broken the NDA?

Of course, it's then legally challengable as being unlawful since by suing Rick for payment he withheld, it would be revealing that an agreement with Tightlip had been done in the first place.

So with that in mind... him stating that a particular person was working on his books (in a press release say), is also a busting of the NDA right? Because, you're not supposed to even state you're in a working relation of any sort.

Curiouser and curiouser.

[NatGertler]

Too late, page is not coming up for me.No, not too late -- it's still coming up for me.

[THEDOC]

I have that MMC announcement page as a tiff (3 pages) if anyone wnats a copy I will e-mail tomorrow. E-mail me at doc0715@aol.com

[JTPencils]

I owe an apology. Not to Rick, but to all the other fine folks here who were subjected to my vitriol and invective. I was unbearably rude.

Beyond that, I was not a particularly good example of what a Christian ought to be. If my kids were to pop in here and read what I posted, they would be quite ashamed of me. So again I apologize to all and sundry.

Now, since I post under my real name so that I have to take responsibility for my words, I won't go back and delete or edit them. I'll leave them to stand in testimony to what an ass I can be at times. Well, I might delete one sentence in there that was needlessly vulgar, but I'll indicate it as an edit.

Mac, having also fallen into the same trap, as it were. I can appreciate your coming back to retract. Unlike some though, you've chosen (as have I0 not to delete or edit your statements (except for a particular word or two). I think it speaks well of anyone who can admit when they acted impulsively. But to show true contrition, it's a matter of what you do the NEXT time the offending individual comes around. For myself, it'll be pretty cut and dry. "Name of attorney, contact info". That's it. Mostly because I know he won't answer it, and he'll eventually tire of trying to goad more out of me.

[DaveRothe]

So with that in mind... him stating that a particular person was working on his books (in a press release say), is also a busting of the NDA right? Because, you're not supposed to even state you're in a working relation of any sort.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Yeah how can you break what's already been broken?

[Darediva]

MightyMiniCon Guest PageSo, I was talking with Chuck Satterlee, whose a friend of mine, and was I surprised to hear that Markosia creators wanted to come greet their fans at the September convention. So the following people will be here:
Chuck Satterlee, Writer of Of Bitter Souls

Daniel Bradford, Artist on Smoke & Mirror and Enlightenment, written by Tom Hall. Tom will also be here!

The Hunger creators, Chris Dibari and Jose Torres will also be here!

Actress Zoe Hunter to Guest Appear!

Zoe Hunter was born and raised in Dutchess County, outside of NYC. She spent her childhood and teen years studying voice, dance and acting. She graduated from SUNY Fredonia with a BFA in Musical Theatre and discovered her love for horror movies in college. Upon graduation, she moved to Hoboken, NJ where she pursued a career in singing/theatre/cabaret and commercials. After traveling with cabaret shows, and industrials, and appearing in several off-off and off broadway shows, Zoe decided to give the big screen a try. That was to the fortune of those of us that love horror!


In 2001, she was cast as the vivacious Piper King in Tony Urban's Klownz and she was hooked on horror. A true scream queen at heart, Zoe fell in love with working and screaming on the set.

Currently, Zoe is living in upstate NY with her husband, Duncan and two chihuahuas, Ginger and Chai. She enjoys traveling and meeting horror fans and filmmakers. Come meet one of the best horror actors presently in filming!

Mick Gray to Guest!
Mick Gray has had an interesting career in comics to date. Did you know that he's a Harvey Award nominated Inker? Have you seen Supergirl & The Legion of Super-Heroes or his earlier book, Seven Soldiers of Victory: Zatanna with Ryan Sook? You can meet and greet Mick at the MMC.

Editorial Cartoonist Frank Page will be here!

Yes, that's right! Editorial Cartoonist Extraordinaire! Frank Page is the Mohawk Valley's shining smile and patron supporter of squirrels. Just ask Bob! BOB THE SQUIRREL, that is! One other lesser known fact about Frank is that he presently holds a seat on the ORCA Board of Directors. But don't hold that against him, because those chaps have barely begun to examine this, that, and the other yet. But the day will come. Meanwhile, come meet Frank Page in person!

ORCA has a board of directors?

[JTPencils]

Yeah how can you break what's already been broken?

Holy CRAP Dave, I think I figured it out finally! After much soul searching, and fact finding. I realize what it was that broke the NDA for me. I told my wife I was going to be doing work for Rick, and she was NOT in the loop! Curses!!!! There goes my defense! I never had her sign the Spousal NDA! Damn, now she's gone and cost me money again.

[JTPencils]

ORCA has a board of directors?

Well, it SOUNDS impressive, doesn't it? I doubt though that three people meeting for a late night Happy Meal, and discussing what comic's they read that day, can hardly be considered "board of directors" in the classical sense.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well, it SOUNDS impressive, doesn't it? I doubt though that three people meeting for a late night Happy Meal, and discussing what comic's they read that day, can hardly be considered "board of directors" in the classical sense.

Hey......don't be knocking this Board of Directors. For that we will now revoke your pension plan. No retirement benefits for you ! ( Cue evil Enron like laugh) BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!

[DaveRothe]

ORCA has a board of directors?

Yeah I hear there's an ORCA Board of Directors Dept. in their ORCA Corporate Office Building in downtown Mohawk! It's right next to the Olney Enterprises Building and 5 story parking garage so ya can't miss it Darediva.;)

[JTPencils]

Hey......don't be knocking this Board of Directors. For that we will now revoke your pension plan. No retirement benefits for you ! ( Cue evil Enron like laugh) BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!

Do I at least get to roll over my 401K?

[Cam63]

I bet all Rick leaves behind when he dies is a lot of debt and a big, greasy spot.

Who knows ?

The greasy spot may become a place of worship and/or a tourist attraction.

[Danny Donovan]

Steve, you're a better llama.. uh, man than I am.

When he went on his native american tangents, I got angry. Being a proud descendent of the Cherokee tribe, I was incensed that a person could be so warped to the world that they would honestly try to marginalize some of the worst instances of humanity, the subjectation of any native peoples.

I am honored to see you take the high road, and meant not offense mentioning you in that post, I just thought how absolutely asinine of him to not only wrongly accuse Guapo of being an illegal immigrant (unless he's really a citizen of China living illegally in Mexico, that's not possible) and make such a negative blanket statement on anyone who has a heritage different than himself.

Jim (Ritchey) and I have had this discussion time and time again, be it an ijit like Rick (oh dear Sarah's a bad influence) or a person who's either the smartest man alive (to create controversy to keep from becoming irrelevent to newer generations) or just a plain old well... bigot such as some that could be named....

It gets my dander up to see supposedly intelligent (at least this is what they want us to believe) people acting so idiotic.

Anyway, kudos to you for being an awesome person. I hope you get caught up in the thread, some interesting things said in that mess.

I'm sure it'll be up on unscrewed soon enough.

[Cam63]

Yes, we most certainly did. I'll upload them to Unscrewed later this week. But, right now, I NEED to finish up work I should have been doing YESTERDAY. And I'm leaving town for a couple days.

But, yes, every last post of his IS screen capped AND downloaded. :D

~Bev

I bet you feel like a months rest and a barrel of Ye Olde Grog Shoppe's finest after that.

[Darediva]

Yeah I hear there's an ORCA Board of Directors Dept. in their ORCA Corporate Office Building in downtown Mohawk! It's right next to the Olney Enterprises Building and 5 story parking garage so ya can't miss it Darediva.;)

:rolleyes: So THAT's where he parks the Van of Justice!

[Darediva]

Who knows ?

The greasy spot may become a place of worship and/or a tourist attraction.

Only if it resembles Elvis.

[Danny Donovan]

I bet you feel like a months rest and a barrel of Ye Olde Grog Shoppe's finest after that.

Hells bells, I am surprised she can still make coherrent sentences!

[Linkara]

Holy CRAP Dave, I think I figured it out finally! After much soul searching, and fact finding. I realize what it was that broke the NDA for me. I told my wife I was going to be doing work for Rick, and she was NOT in the loop! Curses!!!! There goes my defense! I never had her sign the Spousal NDA! Damn, now she's gone and cost me money again.

Still, like I said before, it actually looks like just by saying you were in business with Rick Olney, you were breaking the NDA, which someone should probably bring up as a non-valid contract since it doesn't allow a plaintiff to ever file any charges against Rick.

I'm not even a lawyer and yet I get this stuff. ^^;

[DaveRothe]

:rolleyes: So THAT's where he parks the Van of Justice!

Brilliant!!!

[JTPencils]

Yeah I hear there's an ORCA Board of Directors Dept. in their ORCA Corporate Office Building in downtown Mohawk! It's right next to the Olney Enterprises Building and 5 story parking garage so ya can't miss it Darediva.;)

Actually Dave, the parking garage has been razed to make room for the TLE Theme Park. (and since, as evidenced by his not caring about ripping off other creator's characters)... (sorry Walt)... First up, it's "Extreme FantasyLand" where you're led to believe you're actually going to get paid for work produced. Next on the drawing board is "Tomorrow... or Eventual Land"... where you get to rummage through a slew of scattered paperwork, while automaton "actors" of incompetent accountants, mailmen, and invisible lawyers laugh at you endlessly. All the while, on hidden speakers that have been salvaged from the local landfill, you hear a loop tape of "it's on it's way, it should have gotten there, I'll have to look into it". I hear there's more of the park to be developed... but I'm not at liberty to divulge that at this time.

[DaveRothe]

Actually Dave, the parking garage has been razed to make room for the TLE Theme Park. (and since, as evidenced by his not caring about ripping off other creator's characters)... (sorry Walt)... First up, it's "Extreme FantasyLand" where you're led to believe you're actually going to get paid for work produced. Next on the drawing board is "Tomorrow... or Eventual Land"... where you get to rummage through a slew of scattered paperwork, while automaton "actors" of incompetent accountants, mailmen, and invisible lawyers laugh at you endlessly. I hear there's more of the park to be developed... but I'm not at liberty to divulge that at this time.

Curse you and your NDA!!!

[Inkpot1965]

Holy CRAP Dave, I think I figured it out finally! After much soul searching, and fact finding. I realize what it was that broke the NDA for me. I told my wife I was going to be doing work for Rick, and she was NOT in the loop! Curses!!!! There goes my defense! I never had her sign the Spousal NDA! Damn, now she's gone and cost me money again.

Women. Can't live with'em and sign an NDA.....

In Rick's case NDA would stand for No Damned Assets

[Comcman]

Hmmm... Actually, while the NDA is poorly-worded and doesn't seem to fit the five criteria listed, I will note that the first paragraph would indicate that you're not even allowed to talk about HAVING a business deal with him. Maybe that's what he means by having broken the NDA?

Of course, it's then legally challengable as being unlawful since by suing Rick for payment he withheld, it would be revealing that an agreement with Tightlip had been done in the first place.

Or:

The first rule of a TightLip NDA is you don't talk about TightLip.

I'm gonna say that the court will find his interpretation a bit broad.

Definition of Confidential Information: Each party agrees that all information and materials disclosed by TightLip Entertainment and Rick Olney and Recipient regarding a proposed business deal between the parties, including the terms and conditions of this Agreement and the existence of the discussion between the parties, will be considered and referred to collectively in this Agreement as "Confidential Information".

I read this as information and material disclosed between the two parties. (Well technically 3 parties because of the way this was written). Anything TightLip told the "Recipient" is confidential. Anything TightLip told Rick Olney is confidential. Anything "Recipient" told Rick Olney or TightLip is confidential. This is reasonable as it protects TightLip from someone disclosing anything that is proprietary, such as ideas, client lists, whatever TightLip has that is unique.

However, the fact that TightLip or Rick Olney did not pay "Recipient" is not confidential, since it is not information or materials disclosed from one party to another.

Also, the term "proposed" is troublesome. It indicates that the deal has not been agreed to or finalized and this is only covering intial discussions prior to coming to an actual agreement.

I also recall a post of his stating that only lawyers can understand the language in the contract. But I also recall him stating that he drafted the contract. Poor draftsmanship, I'd say. And sadly for him, a contract should not have to be interpreted. It should be clear on its face. And any ambiguities will be held against the drafter. There is no room for "But I meant".

I would love to see a copy of his contract to see how convoluted it is that all of his attorneys have not been able to determine what it means.

Oh well, it's late. Time for bed.
In the words of the Great One:

Fuck youn and goos night. pukee.

[Yonar]

... So, I'm sitting here, watching Penn and Teller's BS, and they have this guy talking about his radioactive fallout shelter town that he built, and the 'government' has trained him to run.

And I sit here, thinking...

You know, Rick would make a great guest for Penn and Teller's BS.

[DaveRothe]

Or:

The first rule of a TightLip NDA is you don't talk about TightLip.

I'm gonna say that the court will find his interpretation a bit broad.



I read this as information and material disclosed between the two parties. (Well technically 3 parties because of the way this was written). Anything TightLip told the "Recipient" is confidential. Anything TightLip told Rick Olney is confidential. Anything "Recipient" told Rick Olney or TightLip is confidential. This is reasonable as it protects TightLip from someone disclosing anything that is proprietary, such as ideas, client lists, whatever TightLip has that is unique.



However, the fact that TightLip or Rick Olney did not pay "Recipient" is not confidential, since it is not information or materials disclosed from one party to another.

Also, the term "proposed" is troublesome. It indicates that the deal has not been agreed to or finalized and this is only covering intial discussions prior to coming to an actual agreement.

I also recall a post of his stating that only lawyers can understand the language in the contract. But I also recall him stating that he drafted the contract. Poor draftsmanship, I'd say. And sadly for him, a contract should not have to be interpreted. It should be clear on its face. And any ambiguities will be held against the drafter. There is no room for "But I meant".

I would love to see a copy of his contract to see how convoluted it is that all of his attorneys have not been able to determine what it means.

Oh well, it's late. Time for bed.
In the words of the Great One:

Goos night Comcman!

[JTPencils]

... So, I'm sitting here, watching Penn and Teller's BS, and they have this guy talking about his radioactive fallout shelter town that he built, and the 'government' has trained him to run.

And I sit here, thinking...

You know, Rick would make a great guest for Penn and Teller's BS.

Only if Penn and Teller promise to make him disappear at the end of the show.

[Inkpot1965]

Only if Penn and Teller promise to make him disappear at the end of the show.

THey could always shout it/him out. [Is this commercial around anymore]

[JTPencils]

THey could always shout it/him out. [Is this commercial around anymore]

Nope, yer showing your age there bud!

[wishlish]

The funniest name on the MMC guest list is Brian Augustyn. After all, Augustyn is a friend of Mark Waid, and they worked on the Flash together for many years (among other books). Am I supposed to believe that Brian isn't aware of Waid's position on Olney?

[Inkpot1965]

Nope, yer showing your age there bud!

You'll always be a year older, Yank

[DaveRothe]

THey could always shout it/him out. [Is this commercial around anymore]

They've upgraded to the Tide Pen now, Jeff. I guess they got tired of all the shouting and outting.

[JTPencils]

The funniest name on the MMC guest list is Brian Augustyn. After all, Augustyn is a friend of Mark Waid, and they worked on the Flash together for many years (among other books). Am I supposed to believe that Brian isn't aware of Waid's position on Olney?

That would probably depend on whether or not they keep in touch in any fashion. If not, Augustyn may be blissfully unaware of anything that is Olney. (Though from what Gail said, that's become less and less the case, his name and rep are getting around).

[Inkpot1965]

They've upgraded to the Tide Pen now, Jeff. I guess they got tired of all the shouting and outting.

The pen is mightier than RIck's ability to create skidmarks?

[JTPencils]

You'll always be a year older, Yank

So show some respect to your elders then.

[Inkpot1965]

So show some respect to your elders then.

Am I not a sweet guy to your wife? That's respect.

[DaveRothe]

The pen is mightier than RIck's ability to create skidmarks?

I'm not at liberty to say. :D

[Inkpot1965]

I'm not at liberty to say. :D

Don'tcha think Skidmark would be the perfect nickname for Rick? It suits him.

[JTPencils]

Am I not a sweet guy to your wife? That's respect.

Well... she's older then both of us... so that's just automatic.

[willtupper]

Have you guys ever tried this website?

www.zabasearch.com

It's just amazing what one can find there. :D

[TheWraith]

You know, I introed those 3 to each other... :D

[JTPencils]

Have you guys ever tried this website?

www.zabasearch.com

It's just amazing what one can find there. :D

All for a cost naturally. But it IS amazing that you can garner this sort of information at all.

[Inkpot1965]

You know, I introed those 3 to each other... :D

Thanky, Franky

[DocAbsurd]

During a phone conversation with Olney early last year, I happened to mention something about a book I remembered reading when I first worked at a bookstore in '93, something to the effect of 'Legal Forms for Visual Artists'. Couldn't remember much beyond the title and some of the basic contracts contained.

Yup, blame me for sparking the legal fires in Olney's . . . 'mind'. Seriously, it was my fault. He went on a hunting spree to track that bloody thing down. Looks like he got hold of it (http://www.allworth.com/Business_and_Legal_Forms_for_Illustrators_p/1-58115-364-3.htm).

The author is Tad Crawford, and he's done an absolute ton of such reference books for just about every aspect of the arts.

Here's a description of 'Business and Legal Forms for Illustrators':

'The 3d edition of this popular guide contains 25 of the most essential business and legal forms to meet the everyday needs of today’s successful illustrators. Each form is accompanied by step-by-step instructions, advice on standard contractual provisions, and unique negotiation checklists to guide in making the best deal.

New forms for trademark application, commercial lease, sublease, and lease assignment agreements have been added to forms that include: estimate; confirmation of assignment; invoice; illustrator-agent contract; illustrator-gallery contract; contract for sale of artwork; merchandising agreement; nondisclosure agreement; release forms; permission to use copyrighted work; transfer of copyright; copyright application; and much more.'

Since I never did any work for TLE, I only know about the NDA and subsequent contracts. Anyone else sign anything other than those 2?




Doc 'Though I Did Ignite It' Absurd

[DaveRothe]

During a phone conversation with Olney early last year, I happened to mention something about a book I remembered reading when I first worked at a bookstore in '93, something to the effect of 'Legal Forms for Visual Artists'. Couldn't remember much beyond the title and some of the basic contracts contained.

Yup, blame me for sparking the legal fires in Olney's . . . 'mind'. Seriously, it was my fault. He went on a hunting spree to track that bloody thing down. Looks like he got hold of it (http://www.allworth.com/Business_and_Legal_Forms_for_Illustrators_p/1-58115-364-3.htm).

The author is Tad Crawford, and he's done an absolute ton of such reference books for just about every aspect of the arts.

Here's a description of 'Business and Legal Forms for Illustrators':

'The 3d edition of this popular guide contains 25 of the most essential business and legal forms to meet the everyday needs of today’s successful illustrators. Each form is accompanied by step-by-step instructions, advice on standard contractual provisions, and unique negotiation checklists to guide in making the best deal.

New forms for trademark application, commercial lease, sublease, and lease assignment agreements have been added to forms that include: estimate; confirmation of assignment; invoice; illustrator-agent contract; illustrator-gallery contract; contract for sale of artwork; merchandising agreement; nondisclosure agreement; release forms; permission to use copyrighted work; transfer of copyright; copyright application; and much more.'

Since I never did any work for TLE, I only know about the NDA and subsequent contracts. Anyone else sign anything other than those 2?




Doc 'Though I Did Ignite It' Absurd

Shakes fist at Doc A. Dadgummit Tim!!!

[Inkpot1965]

No, just the two of those. But I'd say that was enough.

[Reverend Smooth]

I'll add this comment. You may have seen me say, earlier, "In vino, veritas." It's an old saying that means, basically, you discover what someone is REALLY like when they're drunk. It's beyond laughable to me that people use "Oh I was drunk, I didn't mean that!" as an excuse---ever. To me, that is when someone is the MOST honest, and others get to see them in their unvarnished, ugly truth.Yup. Nice to see someone else who thinks that way.

People are most honest when their inhibitions are gone.

[DaveRothe]

Seriously though Tim (Doc Absurd.) How were you to know all this would happen? You only gave him the tools. It was his decision on whether to use them for good intentions or bad. I think we ALL know the answer to that one now. He's the one that has to take accountability for what he's done. Not you.

[Larry Dixon]

From now on I'm just going to ask myself "What would Larry Dixon do?"

No joke at all, that may be one of the greatest compliments I've ever been given. I am honored and humbled that I would be thought of that way, in such genuinely distinguished company. No sarcasm at all.

[MacQuarrie]

No joke at all, that may be one of the greatest compliments I've ever been given. I am honored and humbled that I would be thought of that way, in such genuinely distinguished company. No sarcasm at all.

I meant it. You can be my Mr. Miyagi. Wax on, wax off.

[Cam63]

*Wipes eyes*

OY ! Watch it with that fuckin' wax !

[Koben Kelly]

Wow. I just finished reading 965-this. That was the shit-loss to end all lost shits.

RICK OLNEY:ATTENTION!!

You will never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never have anything resembling a career in comics.

Got it? Good.

What a chicken-shit, martyr-wanna-be, lying, stealing, snake-in-the-grass, swindling, untrustable, back-stabbing, ungreatful, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, fat piece of odiferous feces.

Rick Olney truly is, as Kyle and Stan said best, THE BIGGEST DOUCHE IN THE UNIVERSE.

Origato.

[Cam63]

Wow. I just finished reading 965-this. That was the shit-loss to end all lost shits.

RICK OLNEY:ATTENTION!!

You will never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never have anything resembling a career in comics.

Got it? Good.

What a chicken-shit, martyr-wanna-be, lying, stealing, snake-in-the-grass, swindling, untrustable, back-stabbing, ungreatful, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, fat piece of odiferous feces.

Rick Olney truly is, as Kyle and Stan said best, THE BIGGEST DOUCHE IN THE UNIVERSE.

Origato.

That's your Olney history in short right there, folks.

[the4thpip]

Wow. Simply wow.

What a beautiful meltdown.

Olney challenges EVERYONE to a fight, and just loses it.

Wow, Mr. Olney, do you suck!

Meanwhile, here is a copy of the letter showing that yes, I indeed DID report you to the Charities Bureau.


Have a nice hangover, peanut.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/olneycharity.jpg

And yes, I blocked out part of my return address.

Ha-ha, peanut!


Ah, I nearly missed that one. Nice.

[Cam63]

Yup. Nice to see someone else who thinks that way.

People are most honest when their inhibitions are gone.

Over the years, I've discovered more than a few people whom I suspected were arseholes were revealed to be complete arseholes after they got a few drinks in them.

[Flamebird]

I was just checking up on Mike Netzer's column about Hermes press, and guess who had the gall to post a reply?

aw gee, got it in one:http://michaelnetzer.com/rEvolution/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=167&Itemid=81


and for the link impaired:

I was very troubled to read that Daniel Best has
been touched upon in this regard. He has always struck me as being a fine individual. It appears that nobody is safe from the sort of smear tactics practiced and embraced by people rushing to judge others.

Sadly, it has been my experience that certain people like claiming to 'love' the realm of comics while slowly chpping away at its foundations. In my own particular case, replying only because my name was brought into this matter, the likes of 'Gail Simone', Tony Isabella, and several others will pass soon enough from such loose-lipped, untruthful lie spreading of me.

To Daniel Best, I wish the peace that comes from knowing the real ugly people of this hobby and entertainment industry. Steer clear of them, sir.

Posted by Rick Olney, whose homepage is here on 02/26/2007 at 13:58

:ICK:

[Reverend Smooth]

It's pretty depressing. Life is sad enough, why create so much extra negativity by carrying such hateful view about others?

And why inflict them on others with one's inability to control one's drinking?

It's really saddening.

[Cam63]

For a split second, I felt sorry for Olney.

Thankfully, that's in the past now.

[Reverend Smooth]

I don't, even though it's sad. He can put down the bottle and set aside his hate.

[the4thpip]

Still, I've seen people post drunk. Peanut was tipsy at best.

[Samuel Catalino]

Yes, I will be there, as always. Along with the Barbis girls! It's a family vacation of sorts for us.

Man, the deja-vu from all this is scary. Meltdowns. Threats. Challenges. Where's Buckminster Futter when you need him?!? :D If memory serves, he was the lone attendee of Rick's only Pitt-Con panel, and was also similarly challenged for a Pitt-Con brawl once. Hopefully Buck will make the trip, since I had the misfortune of not seeing him last time he made the trek.

And don't get me started on Billy...!!! LOL!!!!! :D

Billy was down here at Megacon a few weeks ago, and he had a bad knee problem, but thankfully he has recovered and had a good convention.

I hope all goes well with you and the family, Glenn.

Best,

Samuel

[MacQuarrie]

I was just checking up on Mike Netzer's column about Hermes press, and guess who had the gall to post a reply?

aw gee, got it in one:http://michaelnetzer.com/rEvolution/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=167&Itemid=81


and for the link impaired:


:ICK:
Wow. Just... wow. The king of self-delusion strikes again.

[Cam63]

Rhyme may be shot to hell on one or two of the strophes, but I'm in the middle of a meeting and I can't listen to the song.

With apologies to Monty Python and Eric Idle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clPYfaTvHT0): The Rick Olneybitch song.

Enter Rick Olney, stage left. Spotlight on him.

I always wanted to be Rick Olneybitch.

Piano sounds

Leaping from post to post, as they appear down the mighty forums of C.B.R.

The demands of answers! My mighty racism!
With my best rum by my side!

I'm a giant deadwood.
I like to lose!
Come to Pittsburgh!

We'd sing:


I'm Rick Olneybitch and I’m not okay
I lie all night, I cheat all day.

Olney’s Orphans : He's Rick Olneybitch and he’s not okay.
He lies all night, he cheats all day.
I write down crap. I spew much piss
I make up phony cons.
On the internet I go trolling
I inspired Ric Ollie.


Olney’s Orphans: He writes down crap. He spews much piss
He makes up phony cons.
On the internet he goes trolling
And he inspired Ric Ollie.

Chorus : I'm (He's) Rick Olneybitch, and I'm (he's) not okay.
I (He) lie(s) all night and I (he) cheat(s) all day.

I swindle folks. I skip my bills.
I like curse your mothers.
I put on airs of grandeur
I may start smoking crack.

Olney’s Orphans : He swindles folks. He skips his bills.
He likes to curse your mothers.
He puts on airs of grandeur
He may star smoking crack.

Chorus : I'm (He's) Rick Olneybitch, and I'm (he's) not okay.
I (He) lie(s) all night and I (he) cheat(s) all day.

I write up posts. I tear them down,
wishing they’d go away.
I wish I had some talent,
But no, I’m just a hack.


Olney's Orphans : He writes up posts, he tears them down
Wishing they’d go away??
Chorus : I'm (He's) Rick Olneybitch, and I'm (he's) not okay.
I (He) lie(s) all night and I (he) cheat(s) all day.


I'm (He's) Rick Olneybitch, and I'm (he's) not okay.
I (He) lie(s) all night and I (he) cheat(s) all day.


You get a beer for that post.

[d newton]

Sadly, it has been my experience that certain people like claiming to 'love' the realm of comics while slowly chpping away at its foundations. In my own particular case, replying only because my name was brought into this matter, the likes of 'Gail Simone', Tony Isabella, and several others will pass soon enough from such loose-lipped, untruthful lie spreading of me.
Hey, 'Peanut', when are you going to pay the people mentioned in the above comment?

[TonyIsabella]

Hey, 'Peanut', when are you going to pay the people mentioned in the above comment?

Point of order. Olney doesn't owe me anything. He might owe the charity I told him to give my mileage money to, but he doesn't owe me anything.

I'm involved because the history of comic books is the history of freelancers and other folks being cheated by publishers. Few will take on the big outfits, but, in Olney, we have a problem well within our means and will to solve. The ultimate aim of my efforts is to make sure that he doesn't hurt anyone else in comicdom.

Further information. Daniel Best is a friend of mine. I contributed the foreword to his book on Andru and Esposito, have helped him on other books, and fully expect to work with him in the future. Daniel is a person with some legitimate beefs with his publisher.

Olney isn't a victim. He's a victimizer.

Tony Isabella

[Matt Doc Martin]

It is too early to go back and quote, but in response to a couple of things:

Rick Olney will NOT have the Ghost Hunters or Brian Augystyn at his cons ever again. And when he DOES list who his actual guests will be, I will contact them as well.

Secondly, people may still be looking to serve him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg


There you go.

Lastly, I am off to court!

Details later!

[Flamebird]

It is too early to go back and quote, but in response to a couple of things:

Rick Olney will NOT have the Ghost Hunters or Brian Augystyn at his cons ever again. And when he DOES list who his actual guests will be, I will contact them as well.

Secondly, people may still be looking to serve him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg


There you go.

Lastly, I am off to court!

Details later!

Have Fun,

Don't forget to take along a happy meal and a smile. :)

oh, and take notes please(like I really need to ask for that).

[JTPencils]

It is too early to go back and quote, but in response to a couple of things:

Rick Olney will NOT have the Ghost Hunters or Brian Augystyn at his cons ever again. And when he DOES list who his actual guests will be, I will contact them as well.

Secondly, people may still be looking to serve him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg


There you go.

Lastly, I am off to court!

Details later!

Suddenly, I feel like the character Flounder in Animal House right before the big parade scene "ooooooooooooooooooo this is gonna be GREAT!". Good Luck Matt, and know that we all await details!

[Charles RB]

Now, look over the TLE NDA; tell me if you see all 5 of the above defined. Tell me if you see any of the 5 defined. Cuz I sure as hell don't.


I'm seeing nuffin. I did see this bit though:

Confidential Information does not include information that is now or subsequently becomes generally available to the public through no fault or breach on the part of either party

Is it just me or is the contract saying that once someone revealed that Rick wasn't paying creators, wouldn't that mean it was no longer confidential and everyone who'd signed an NDA could now freely blab? Not only is his NDA not really legal, its own wording could interfer with his "you broke the NDA!" tactic.


I watched a great movie a couple of weeks ago, called The Secret. It helped to reinforce something for me that I've been trying to avoid. Basically, he's been asking for this for a LONG time, and the universe has finally obliged him.

I watched Hot Fuzz and learnt anyone who thinks they're above the law will be kicked in the face by Simon Pegg. Especially if they're an old woman.

[Charles RB]

Over the years, I've discovered more than a few people whom I suspected were arseholes were revealed to be complete arseholes after they got a few drinks in them.

And that is why I never drink.

That and because I might sober up to find, with my inhibitions gone, I viciously eviserated every single student who was loud & obnoxious outside & inside my hall of resident after 1AM.

[the4thpip]

All I could do was save it as a text:



I have printed the page as it appears on the web and will scan.

It's easier to copy the content of your screen with the obscure "print" key on the top of your keyboard and then do a "ctr-v" in any image software (paint, corel, photoshop etc.).

[JTPencils]

Is it just me or is the contract saying that once someone revealed that Rick wasn't paying creators, wouldn't that mean it was no longer confidential and everyone who'd signed an NDA could now freely blab? Not only is his NDA not really legal, its own wording could interfer with his "you broke the NDA!" tactic.

I don't think it would even be a matter of waiting until someone blabbed "first" or whenever. The practice of not paying is NOT what I'd consider a "standard business practice" nor is it some sort of "corporate secret" that is covered under the NDA or subsequent contract. That goes for TLE or any business. I don't care who you're working for, or what contract you've signed. If that business does not pay you for work tendered, you (the unpaid) have the right to go out and shout it from the mountains if you so choose, that fact. As long as that's your only statement, and NOT about the inner workings of the company, it's properties, it's customer list, or whatever, I would think you're safe. But I'm no lawyer. Then again, neither is Rick. (But he like's to play one in his deluded mind.)

[Draconomicon]

Thank you very much for the kind words! We really dig ASP, and were so honored they decided to take us on.

Here is the newsarama (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=102224)thing, and there is also an all the rage column thing here (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/index1.htm) in which they discussed stuff with Larime. XD

This is so cool, thank you for making my day. XD

*Laughs softly*
Had a total Geek out moment as I recognized who you two are ^^.
But that is because I am really looking forward to read the book.
And YES! It was "All the Rage" article which brought that comic to my attention :) That was the link I searched for.
Thank you!

Yeah, my avatar is Stan from Hollow. :)

The design is very cool. I guess that is why it did stay with me. There was something about him in those preview pics, suave and yet cruel beyond words. Very strange, and therefore very well done.

Newsarama did a bit on all the new books ASP is putting out. I cannot reccommend them highly enough to ANYONE looking for something more than capes and tights.

Agreed on that.
I've come to enjoy the Books published by ASP very much. And already look forward to read the new line up. So far Books published by ASP are very mature, nearly Vertigo'esque, which is <3 ^^.

Artesia's one of my favorite titles on any label.
MAJOR Fan of that book here ^^.
I even got the Roleplaying supplement, lol.

Thanks! We do our best! :o

And its breath taking ^^.
Seriously, I read that article on All the Rage and was terribly impressed.
Not only that you manage to get a very interesting book to be published, but also because of how you manage to have such a positive outlook despite what harsh cards life dealt to you.

So, totally congratulations to landing the Book at ASP and Good Luck with it! :)

I'll make sure to plug the book on the other Forums I visit, because I am sure its worth it!

[Flamebird]

What exactly is IN that bottle he's drinking?

From his "mighty mini-(non)com page: TODAY


Advertise in the Mighty Mini-Con Program
Can't make it to the con in person, or want to add muscle to your might on the show floor? Advertising space is available in the 2004 Mighty Mini-Con Program! Rates

The Six Block $35 dollars each! Size: 5 inches wide by 3 inches high.

The Column $45 dollars each! Size: 2 1/4 inches wide by 10 inches high.

Half Page $100 dollars each! Size: 7 1/2 inches wide by 5 inches tall.

Full Page $175 dollars each! Size: 7 1/2 inches wide by 10 inches tall.

Inside Front Cover $225 dollars! Size: 7 1/2 inches wide by 10 inches tall.

Inside Back Cover $200 dollars! Size: 7 1/2 inches wide by 10 inches tall.
All ads must be camera ready and in black & white format.

For information, rates questions, and to reserve your ad space, contact us via email at tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com
I can forward you 2006 Mighty Mini-Con Program Ad information.
At some point very soon, there will be downloadable information attached and available here. Thank you.


I guess his lawyer team tm, didn't tell him that it's 2007.

God he makes gerbils look smart.(no gerbils were harmed in the making of this message. Unless they happened to read anything BY RO)

[JTPencils]

What exactly is IN that bottle he's drinking?

From his "mighty mini-(non)com page: TODAY





I guess his lawyer team tm, didn't tell him that it's 2007.

God he makes gerbils look smart.(no gerbils were harmed in the making of this message. Unless they happened to read anything BY RO)

Geesh, and it's not just the years that are screwy, but look at those amounts! Does he honestly think anyone (at least anyone who's familiar with his checkered monetary past) is going to hand over those amounts? Those appear to be ad rates for a rather successful magazine or publication of some sort. Hardly what I think anyone would pay for a one time, one shot program for a convention (that will probably be canceled for a myriad of reasons). I've never put an ad into something like this, so I could be totally wrong... thoughts from anyone who HAS gone this route before with reputable con organizers?

(Or perhaps this is how he's planning on paying for his legal team? Real life breathing lawyers tend to want to be paid... often upfront, at least a retainer)

[Typo Lad]

I meant it. You can be my Mr. Miyagi. Wax on, wax off.

Wait... so if I tend to think "What Would Jim MacQuarrie Do?", and you, in turn, think "What Would Larry Dixon Do?"....

...Should I just cut out the middle man?

[Flamebird]

Wait... so if I tend to think "What Would Jim MacQuarrie Do?", and you, in turn, think "What Would Larry Dixon Do?"....

...Should I just cut out the middle man?

Yeah, just ask yourself,


"What would Misty tell Larry Dixon to do?"


See, problem solved. :D

[Typo Lad]

On topic, I think someone politely contacting those listed as guests with a brief "I saw your name listed on such-and-such a site as a guest at an upcming convention. Is this information accurate?", would not be out of line. No mention of Olney, Unscrewed, etc... just a simple verification e-mail.

Who has free time?

[Paul D. Storrie]

Only because others seem confused, I am indeed contributing to both the book and the auction (auction contribution being the original art from the 2 page anthology story)

Why?

From Olney’s Myspace blog 1/27/07:

<<Is a lie when you take facts and either stretch them or change the base of the story? What "Gail" is attempting to rumor herself are my private emails within the last 48 hours to first, Tim Eldred and second, to Val Staples. Mr. Eldred is wanting to be paid and hasn't compromised himself regarding his NDA understanding with my company, TightLip Entertainment. In order to pay Mr. Eldred, I have to attempt to re-open communication with Mr. Staples, who, after getting my email, responded with this reply:

With all due respect, the only dialogue that needs to take place is knowing when I will receive payment in full.

Now that was perfectly understandable. Mr. Staples wants to be paid. Likewise, there are certain expectations that I have. So I replied with this email:

"Likewise with all due respect, we can discuss the date and details on your payment after you've removed your posts on that message thread on CBR, and any likewise such expressives, and post an apology. Otherwise, I still intend on making as much of a legal matter where you're concerned as necessary. See... you can get paid, and I can obviously clear the matter of anyone awaiting payment still on the Tales of The Spooky #1 book... but I can't retract your words or clear up what you said. You've demeaned and libeled me. And Val, I am told by my attorney that that has taken place.
Ball to move forward is in your court, sir.">>

Let’s recap: Olney admits screwing Val Staples for Val’s money, AND he’s screwing Val for Tim Eldred’s money, too! This after noting Tim satisfied all obligations. Olney claims the money is right there ready to go, “See... you can get paid, and I can obviously clear the matter of anyone awaiting payment still on the Tales of The Spooky #1 book...” he just won’t pay.

Anyway, that's why I'm in.

(edited to correct date typo from 2/27/07 to the correct 1/27/07)

The confusion was entirely mine. Sorry about that. I'd been in New York for the convention and lost track of who was participating in which ventures. Given some of Olney's previous typing and cognitive difficulties, I mistakenly though he was referring to me as I had been (last I checked) the only "Paul" involved in any of this stuff.

Glad to hear that, for once, Olney was right and you are indeed a part of this effort. Love your work and look forward to seeing what you come up with for the anthology!

Best,
PDS

[Inkpot1965]

And let's not forget that Paul Smith is a name that can be thrown into any discussion about some of the best runs on Dr. Strange. Excellent work.

[DocAbsurd]

Not to mention the fact that there was no 2006 MMC.

How in the bloody hell can he send ad information for a con that never took place? Will all ads include safety warnings for the Y2K virus, since that never happened either?

Mighty MiniCon: carrying on the proud tradition of cancellation

Featuring:


the legally-embroiled Tales of the Spooky
the indeterminably-postponed line of TLE comics
the crack legal team of Dewey, Screwim & Howe
TLE's bored of committees


More guests to be rescinded later!

Free table space for Small Press Creators with no access to the internet, with a signed NDA and oath of fealty (notary public on staff).

Free rides in the Van of Justice, only $5. All proceeds donated to the Herkimer County Impound Lot.

Panels include:


Women in the Comics Industry and How to Properly Insult Them
Libel vs Slander
What Wine Goes with 'Forum Posting'?
Civil Statues: Modern Art or Mob Mentality?
I Never Said That: Misquoting for Fun and Profit
Are Reputations Really Necessary for a Successful Business?


Free programs with included script will be available for $5 before each panel for audience participation.

Guests who still plan to attend will stay at the lovely Herkimer Holiday Inn. Or the lovely Red Roof Inn. Or the lovely Motel 6. Or the nearest motel with vacancies available that evening.




Doc 'Plenty of Parking' Absurd

[Typo Lad]

Okay, I know I'm all "high road", but that was dang funny Doc.

[Inkpot1965]

I can see someone standing outside the show [as if would happen] handing out these bogus fliers. Heh, heh...

[TomStillwell]

I'm calling bullshit on this one.

I've talked to Chuck Satterlee about Rick Olney. He's donating to the Unscrewed! auction.

I talked to Chuck. That is last year's information. There's no way in hell he'd agree to another convention thrown by Rick Olney.

So basically all the guests listed are from last year's failed con.

[Typo Lad]

I can see someone standing outside the show [as if would happen] handing out these bogus fliers. Heh, heh...
In the event that a con actually happens, that would be legally dodgy.

[Inkpot1965]

In the event that a con actually happens, that would be legally dodgy.

That was a joke, son, a joke. J.O.K.

[Inkpot1965]

Hey Tom, I remember you offered to e-mail info yesterday that you weren't allowed to publically state. Does that offer still stand? I need an infusion of "Olney meets up with justice".

[Lester C.]

Everytime this thread is about to die Rick comes online and engages in behavior that is outrageous and unacceptable even by my own twisted standards. I've never met anyone that actively enjoys being a malicious prick just for the sake of being a malicious prick.

Most assholes I've met have reasons for being the way they are. It doesn't mean those reasons are valid but generally speaking the monster does not see itself when it looks in the mirror. Not only does Rick see the monster in the mirror but he gleeful at its reflection.

[TomStillwell]

Hey Tom, I remember you offered to e-mail info yesterday that you weren't allowed to publically state. Does that offer still stand? I need an infusion of "Olney meets up with justice".

Indeed. Drop me an e-mail.

[Inkpot1965]

Everytime this thread is about to die Rick comes online and engages in behavior that is outrageous and unacceptable even by my own twisted standards. I've never met anyone that actively enjoys being a malicious prick just for the sake of being a malicious prick.

Most assholes I've met have reasons for being the way they are. It doesn't mean those reasons are valid but generally speaking the monster does not see itself when it looks in the mirror. Not only does Rick see the monster in the mirror but he gleeful at its reflection.

Well, everybody needs a hobby. Rick's goal is to be the Dr. Doom of the comic industry.

[Karl J. Barnes]

Well, everybody needs a hobby. Rick's goal is to be the Dr. Doom of the comic industry.

Which Dr. Doom is he? Kirby era Doom or Post Kirby era Doom? Me, I'm going for Kirby era Doom. I can't wait until he calls someone a Jacknapes Jackel.

[Inkpot1965]

Which Dr. Doom is he? Kirby era Doom or Post Kirby era Doom? Me, I'm going for Kirby era Doom. I can't wait until he calls someone a Jacknapes Jackel.

Hmmm. Maybe Dr. Doom wasn't the best comparison. Rick's nowhere NEAR that literate. Maybe......the Rhino!

[DaveRothe]

Hmmm. Maybe Dr. Doom wasn't the best comparison. Rick's nowhere NEAR that literate. Maybe......the Rhino!

Don't think he'd be the Rhino Jeff. Rhino has a thick skin.

[EdContradictory]

Well, everybody needs a hobby. Rick's goal is to be the Dr. Doom of the comic industry.
Which Dr. Doom is he? Kirby era Doom or Post Kirby era Doom? Me, I'm going for Kirby era Doom. I can't wait until he calls someone a Jacknapes Jackel.
He's Kristoff. The ineffectual, easy to ignore, loser Dr. Doom.

[Typo Lad]

The thing about Doom is that Doom has actually accomplished things. Keep that in mind.

Although I have to wonder where his doctorate is from.

[Inkpot1965]

Don't think he'd be the Rhino Jeff. Rhino has a thick skin.

Well, he has a thick head. Doesn't that count?

[DocAbsurd]

The thing about Doom is that Doom has actually accomplished things. Keep that in mind.

Although I have to wonder where his doctorate is from.

School of Tough Luck.

Although he does have street smarts: he knows what street he lives on.

Dammit, I blew the high ground with that one, didn't I?




Doc 'Middle Ground' Absurd

[Typo Lad]

I... I meant Doom's doctorate.

I can't imagine Doom being street anything.

"Doom is tired of that accursed Richards getting up in his grill!"

[DaveRothe]

Well, he has a thick head. Doesn't that count?

No argument there.

[Linkara]

I... I meant Doom's doctorate.

I can't imagine Doom being street anything.

"Doom is tired of that accursed Richards getting up in his grill!"

Obviously you've never read Thunderstrike #1 and the menacing supervillain Carjack! Admittedly, he is in no way related to Doom, but he's got a mask that somewhat resembles Doom's. ^_~

[wishlish]

I... I meant Doom's doctorate.

I can't imagine Doom being street anything.

"Doom is tired of that accursed Richards getting up in his grill!"

According to Brubaker's Books of Doom, Doom heard Reed Richards on television being introduced as Dr. Richards, got angry, and demanded to be called Doctor Doom.

Makes as much sense as anything else.

[SteveForbes]

First, allow me to apologize to the majority of the community here (but never to YOR) for my jumping into the hog waller with dimwit last night. I should have tried to keep my comments totally above board (and feel I did a fairly decent job). But the guy could piss off the Pope with his rantings. Drunk or not.

Secondly, I was thinking, it would be interesting if someone were to print out his various diatribes, and bind and sell them. Sadly, this would do two things... it would be a tough sell, trying to quantify that it is NON fiction.. (these are real comments)... and it would mean that pin head FINALLY has something in print... just not through his own doing. (at least not directly).

Next time he drops in (and let's face it, he can't help himself, it's like a moth flying straight into a flamethrower), I'll try to keep my cool, and not allow the lunatic rambling's get to me. (not that they really did, but I should have responded much better then I did).

I just felt really loved right there!

JT used my "YOR"!

-(tickled pink and slowly catching up) llama

[Gail Simone]

It is too early to go back and quote, but in response to a couple of things:

Rick Olney will NOT have the Ghost Hunters or Brian Augystyn at his cons ever again. And when he DOES list who his actual guests will be, I will contact them as well.

Secondly, people may still be looking to serve him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg


There you go.

Lastly, I am off to court!

Details later!


Yeah, we know that's not happening. And Brian Augustyn being one of Waid's best friends makes that an impossibility as well.

So his list of con guests is almost no one.


Gail

[the4thpip]

Panels include:


Women in the Comics Industry and How to Properly Insult Them
Libel vs Slander
What Wine Goes with 'Forum Posting'?
Civil Statues: Modern Art or Mob Mentality?
I Never Said That: Misquoting for Fun and Profit
Are Reputations Really Necessary for a Successful Business?






<giggle>

Very well done!

[Larry Dixon]

Yeah, just ask yourself,


"What would Misty tell Larry Dixon to do?"


See, problem solved. :D

Misty would tell me, "This is a people thing, solve it!" and then go back to playing City of Heroes.

[Gail Simone]

Not to mention the fact that there was no 2006 MMC.

How in the bloody hell can he send ad information for a con that never took place? Will all ads include safety warnings for the Y2K virus, since that never happened either?

Mighty MiniCon: carrying on the proud tradition of cancellation

Featuring:


the legally-embroiled Tales of the Spooky
the indeterminably-postponed line of TLE comics
the crack legal team of Dewey, Screwim & Howe
TLE's bored of committees


More guests to be rescinded later!

Free table space for Small Press Creators with no access to the internet, with a signed NDA and oath of fealty (notary public on staff).

Free rides in the Van of Justice, only $5. All proceeds donated to the Herkimer County Impound Lot.

Panels include:


Women in the Comics Industry and How to Properly Insult Them
Libel vs Slander
What Wine Goes with 'Forum Posting'?
Civil Statues: Modern Art or Mob Mentality?
I Never Said That: Misquoting for Fun and Profit
Are Reputations Really Necessary for a Successful Business?


Free programs with included script will be available for $5 before each panel for audience participation.

Guests who still plan to attend will stay at the lovely Herkimer Holiday Inn. Or the lovely Red Roof Inn. Or the lovely Motel 6. Or the nearest motel with vacancies available that evening.




Doc 'Plenty of Parking' Absurd



This post is declared genius by the genius declaring board.

Gail

[JeffreyWKramer]

Well, everybody needs a hobby. Rick's goal is to be the Dr. Doom of the comic industry.

He barely rises to the level of the Paste Pot Pete or Stilt Man or Ten-Eyed Man of the industry.

[Gail Simone]

Misty would tell me, "This is a people thing, solve it!" and then go back to playing City of Heroes.

You guys is still playing CoH?

Gail

[Inkpot1965]

He barely rises to the level of the Paste Pot Pete or Stilt Man or Ten-Eyed Man of the industry.

Who was the geek with the frog costume? Leapfrog or something?

[DaveRothe]

This post is declared genius by the genius declaring board.

Gail

Gail that's what our Genius Declaring "Board of Directors" is for!;)

[Gail Simone]

And I ask again, has Rick Olney ever, and I mean ever, taken an English class?

""In my own particular case, replying only because my name was brought into this matter, the likes of 'Gail Simone', Tony Isabella, and several others will pass soon enough from such loose-lipped, untruthful lie spreading of me."

What the hell is THAT sentence?

Gail

[Inkpot1965]

And I ask again, has Rick Olney ever, and I mean ever, taken an English class?

""In my own particular case, replying only because my name was brought into this matter, the likes of 'Gail Simone', Tony Isabella, and several others will pass soon enough from such loose-lipped, untruthful lie spreading of me."

What the hell is THAT sentence?

Gail

A failed attempt at Pig Latin?

[JeffreyWKramer]

Who was the geek with the frog costume? Leapfrog or something?

Leapfrog indeed. Minor Daredevil villain. An apt comparison with Olney, as Leapfrog tries to be important and impressive and utterly fails at being anything but a pathetic joke.

[Inkpot1965]

Leapfrog indeed. Minor Daredevil villain. An apt comparison with Olney, as Leapfrog tries to be important and impressive and utterly fails at being anything but a pathetic joke.

Rick dreams of Doom, and ends up in a bog somewhere croaking.

[WhiteRose]

And I ask again, has Rick Olney ever, and I mean ever, taken an English class?

""In my own particular case, replying only because my name was brought into this matter, the likes of 'Gail Simone', Tony Isabella, and several others will pass soon enough from such loose-lipped, untruthful lie spreading of me."

What the hell is THAT sentence?

Gail

I KNOW the words. They make sense separately, but I...wow. It's like 1000 English professors cried out and then were suddenly silenced.

THAT is what my teacher would call a 'Train Wreck' sentence. In the way you keep staring at it, hoping the senseless mutilation would stop.

[JeffreyWKramer]

What the hell is THAT sentence?


He would do better to avoid using words of more than two syllables, and sentences of more than seven or so words.

Of course, he'd do better yet to just shut the fuck up, and best of all to just pay people the money owed to them.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Guess what, kiddies?


Rick had himself a VERY bad day.


I am going to let the person who did the action post details later today, but here is what I can say about it now.

I went to court today to watch Rick lose. And he did.

Of course, Rick did not show. I guess being served with a subpoena means nothing to Rick Olney's "legal team". Or maybe Rick was out of formal wear. I just don't know.

Anyhow, when you skip court cases, bad things happen to you.

Rick, you will be getting more paperwork in the mail.

I am so happy I am skipping my anti-depressant today.

I LOVE our court system

Rick lost...BIG TIME!

And again, his deleted address and phone number for more subpoena fun!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg

[Kozemp]

I'm just throwing this out there to see what people make of it.

Marc Guggenheim (of Hyperion vs Nighthawk and other excellent things) writes for Law and Order...

JLK
Jack McCoy will destroy you

[Inkpot1965]

Damn. That news is better than a free Chinese buffet.

[the4thpip]

Guess what, kiddies?


Rick had himself a VERY bad day.


I am going to let the person who did the action post details later today, but here is what I can say about it now.

I went to court today to watch Rick lose. And he did.

Of course, Rick did not show. I guess being served with a subpoena means nothing to Rick Olney's "legal team". Or maybe Rick was out of formal wear. I just don't know.

Anyhow, when you skip court cases, bad things happen to you.

Rick, you will be getting more paperwork in the mail.

I am so happy I am skipping my anti-depressant today.

I LOVE our court system

Rick lost...BIG TIME!

And again, his deleted address and phone number for more subpoena fun!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg

Justice is a dish best served with a side of labskaus.

Well done.

[Alan Lynch]

Guess what, kiddies?


Rick had himself a VERY bad day.


I am going to let the person who did the action post details later today, but here is what I can say about it now.

I went to court today to watch Rick lose. And he did.

Of course, Rick did not show. I guess being served with a subpoena means nothing to Rick Olney's "legal team". Or maybe Rick was out of formal wear. I just don't know.

Anyhow, when you skip court cases, bad things happen to you.

Rick, you will be getting more paperwork in the mail.

I am so happy I am skipping my anti-depressant today.

I LOVE our court system

Rick lost...BIG TIME!

And again, his deleted address and phone number for more subpoena fun!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg
That's outstanding. Can't wait to see how he tries to spin this one.

[KevinTBrown]

And I ask again, has Rick Olney ever, and I mean ever, taken an English class?

""In my own particular case, replying only because my name was brought into this matter, the likes of 'Gail Simone', Tony Isabella, and several others will pass soon enough from such loose-lipped, untruthful lie spreading of me."

What the hell is THAT sentence?

Gail

Untruthful lies.... Hmm, sounds like he's saying you are telling the truth. Don't 2 negatives make a positive...?

:p

[Kozemp]

Matt Martin is, in the words of Neal Stephenson, a stupendous badass.

JLK
woe to hice!

[KevinTBrown]

Guess what, kiddies?


Rick had himself a VERY bad day.


I am going to let the person who did the action post details later today, but here is what I can say about it now.

I went to court today to watch Rick lose. And he did.

Of course, Rick did not show. I guess being served with a subpoena means nothing to Rick Olney's "legal team". Or maybe Rick was out of formal wear. I just don't know.

Anyhow, when you skip court cases, bad things happen to you.

Rick, you will be getting more paperwork in the mail.

I am so happy I am skipping my anti-depressant today.

I LOVE our court system

Rick lost...BIG TIME!

And again, his deleted address and phone number for more subpoena fun!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070228-061728.jpg

http://www.uiowa.edu/~epls/images/index/snoopy_dance.gif

[Inkpot1965]

"That Matt is a baaad muthah......."

"SHUT YOUR MOUTH!"

"I'm jus' talkin' bout Matt."

"We can dig it."

[Larry Dixon]

You guys is still playing CoH?

Gail

You betchum, Gail. And my dad too: yes, the ex-career-Delta Force commando/rock musician/race car driver 64 year old school teacher. You should see his CoH gaming rig. Huge lust. Boomslang mouse, speedpad, THX-certified Bose surround, dual 20" 4-millisecond LCDs, quad-core CPU, 2 gig of DDR3 RAM, bleeding-edge video card. And he has something like twelve level-50s now.

We miss you and Howard Porter, Gail. One of these months when you get the time we'd love to team up again.

Misty sends SUPER HUGS.

[Kozemp]

"That Matt is a baaad muthah......."

"SHUT YOUR MOUTH!"

"I'm jus' talkin' bout Matt."

"We can dig it."

Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about?

JLK
not really a complicated man

[Typo Lad]

As a Mac user, I object to all this talk of CoH playing. It depresses me.

[Kozemp]

You betchum, Gail. And my dad too: yes, the ex-career-Delta Force commando/rock musician/race car driver 64 year old school teacher.

Your Dad is Buckaroo Banzai?

JLK
what's the watermelon for?

[Papergirl]

May I just say that I am madly in love with the judge? She ROCKED! I damn near jumped up and down with joy when she made her pronouncement!

~Bev
Hey, Dick! You should have been there! I was!