Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Calliope's Comics]

Quick point before this gets buried in 1000 extra posts:

Plaintiffs that bring a civil case can not have a lawyer act on their behalf. I have experience in that area since I have brought a few suits to trial in small claims court. So, any and all legal proceedings that are brought forth would need to be done by the individual themself not a team of lawyers. Now on the other hand you can request that the judge allow you a lawyer if you are the defendant in a case.

[Rick Olney]

I choose to believe Gail.

Fine. I really don't give a shite. She lied and was caught in it. She lied not to me, mind you. She lied to Dennis Kininger, and she's acknowledged that in writing to him. I know, because I have her email. So when it comes down to it ... one lie sets the stage she'll perform upon. One lie opens up her life and all that she has stated here. One lie.

You and "Gail" are nothing more than walking, talking files that never stop to consider how exposed and outside of civil law you really are.

[Typo Lad]

You know Mr. Olney, if you actually produced evidence that someone here threatened a member of your family, I can think of at least five posters who would lay the smack down.

We don't cross lines like that here.

However, as you have no interest in actually building a defense or gaining sympathy (just judging by your words here), then I see why you don't.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Samuel, I have pictures of every room of your house. I've never showed anyone. Maybe I should post them. There are no laws about that sort of thing. I know, I checked.

Far as the childish remarks about body odor... There is no subject that would appeal to two old fanboys more than commenting about body odor in general. Amazing...


Pictures of all his rooms? How creepy is that?!?

[OzBat!]

He said Bonk, not boink.

Be fair, Yonar.

Mr. Olney has said enough actual offensive things to people on this thread without anyone making things up.Actually, in Australia "bonking" IS exactly what he first thought it was.

I'm amazed that Rick actually got his usage of crude australian vernacular correct.

Maybe he got all his legal training from watching 'the crocodile hunter'?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Quick point before this gets buried in 1000 extra posts:

Plaintiffs that bring a civil case can not have a lawyer act on their behalf. I have experience in that area since I have brought a few suits to trial in small claims court. So, any and all legal proceedings that are brought forth would need to be done by the individual themself not a team of lawyers. Now on the other hand you can request that the judge allow you a lawyer if you are the defendant in a case.

OOPS! Rick is deflated again!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Actually, in Australia "bonking" IS exactly what he first thought it was.

I'm amazed that Rick actually got his usage of crude australian vernacular correct.

Maybe he got all his legal training from watching 'the crocodile hunter'?

More likely he is shit-lucky.

[Rick Olney]

Quick point before this gets buried in 1000 extra posts:

Plaintiffs that bring a civil case can not have a lawyer act on their behalf. I have experience in that area since I have brought a few suits to trial in small claims court. So, any and all legal proceedings that are brought forth would need to be done by the individual themself not a team of lawyers. Now on the other hand you can request that the judge allow you a lawyer if you are the defendant in a case.

Maybe in your universe, but here on earth you're wrong. An attorney can handle ANY court case. Even small claims. But none of what is going to take place is small claims, believe me. I'm hitting hard. A few of you will need some sort of benefit for your behalf after you've hit the skids.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Maybe in your universe, but here on earth you're wrong. An attorney can handle ANY court case. Even small claims. But none of what is going to take place is small claims, believe me. I'm hitting hard. A few of you will need some sort of benefit for your behalf after you've hit the skids.

We all live in this universe, Rick.

Join us?

[Typo Lad]

Again with the threats.

You really should ask you lergal council if discussing potential cases here is the wisest course of action.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Again with the threats.

You really should ask you lergal council if discussing potential cases here is the wisest course of action.

My "Magic 8-Ball" can answer that question better than his pretend lawyer can.

[Charles RB]

Tony Isabella is a 'big' name in the industry. "Gail Simone" is a big name in the industry. Scott Shaw is a 'big' name in the industry. Mark Waid is a 'big' name in the industry. Kurt Busiek is a 'big' name in the industry.
Heck, even Paul Smith is a 'big' name in the industry. I had no control over how they sought to involve themselves. I don't know why, because none of them are allegedly owed anything by me or my company.

Gail has said over and over that you didn't pay her what you said you'd pay her; Isabella and Waid have expressed that they're involving themselves out for reasons of personal morality, to help out those unpaid and forewarn others; and they personally know people who are owed by you, such as Chuck Dixon.

This has all been publically stated, and repeatedly.


That is, if you can put yourself in the place of someone that agreed and signed a legal document only to set it aside.

You stated in this thread that you would deliberately hold off on paying people who broke silence (some of whom hadn't signed NDAs) despite the contracts you signed with them. You are yourself setting aside something you agreed to and signed.

And as Joshua points out, you still have to pay even if they violate NDAs.

No, I really expect that people with any kind of deciency wouldn't simply involve themselves in a personal matter. lol

You made the comments on a public message board on a widely-read thread. That is not, by any means, a private discussion.

Sorry, but I can't respond to you because you're located outside the United States of America.

Why can't you respond to someone's questions if they live in Australia? It's not illegal.

I don't think proof here is anything but a waste of time.

So you won't be giving any proof to back up what you say?

That anthology book will never see print. If you want to take odds as a gambler, be my guest.

I put down a fiver that it does.

[Typo Lad]

I put down a fiver that it does.

Whose keeping book here? That's $5 down for, plus a rendition of "I Fee Pretty" (with optional cross-dressing).

[Calliope's Comics]

Maybe in your universe, but here on earth you're wrong. An attorney can handle ANY court case. Even small claims. But none of what is going to take place is small claims, believe me. I'm hitting hard. A few of you will need some sort of benefit for your behalf after you've hit the skids.

Let's see....in my universe I attended law school and also had to sue several ex-roomates who were deadbeats for money that they skipped out on. Upon entering the county clerk's office I was handed all of my paperwork including a copy of the federal and state statute that disallow attorney's when filing in small claims court. Now if you are suing for over $10,000 , then you may have an attorney since you have now entered into a more complex legal area. Now when you hit that arena you will have to show actual damages not just perceived loss.

[Guapo Méndez]

Maybe in your universe, but here on earth you're wrong. An attorney can handle ANY court case. Even small claims. But none of what is going to take place is small claims, believe me. I'm hitting hard. A few of you will need some sort of benefit for your behalf after you've hit the skids.

http://img167.imagevenue.com/loc65/th_35041_SWScan00071_122_65lo.jpg

"I'm Rick Olney and I'm gonna sue you!"

[Linkara]

Let's see....in my universe I attended law school and also had to sue several ex-roomates who were deadbeats for money that they skipped out on. Upon entering the county clerk's office I was handed all of my paperwork including a copy of the federal and state statute that disallow attorney's when filing in small claims court. Now if you are suing for over $10,000 , then you may have an attorney since you have now entered into a more complex legal area.

I think I love you. ^_^

[JTPencils]

So per your contract, did you ever comply? Meet the multiple deadlines?
I have your emails giving my company permission. But, again, I can't comment further.

Watch out you don't cough up a lung.

Laughing Boy? Am I now in the same category as your laughing lawyer you use to brag about? What is it about you that folks around are laughing so much (and most likely, not with you, but AT you). You're like nitrous oxide, but gassier.

Ok, I'm gonna try to figure this one out.

Comply with what? Your multiple deadlines for? The covers that were done on time (and ahead of time). The character sheets (which had no specific deadline), or the holiday card you requested. All on time, and all accepted (and used) by YOU. As for multiple deadlines... what about the self imposed one's YOU made for bonus' to be paid for accomplishing these tasks? Or the three months it took to GET the contracts out because your printer was broken (what? No Kinko's in Herkimer? Or no WalMart to just buy a crappy printer for 40 bucks?) Again, no payment, no reason, just excuses.

Permission for what? To screw me over? If so, I don't remember siging THAT one.... You can't comment, because you can't back it up.

If I did cough up a lung, I hope you're on the sidewalk when it splatters. It would do the concrete some service.

[Indigo Al]

Maybe in your universe, but here on earth you're wrong. An attorney can handle ANY court case. Even small claims. But none of what is going to take place is small claims, believe me. I'm hitting hard. A few of you will need some sort of benefit for your behalf after you've hit the skids.


Will you pay your "attorneys"?

[OzBat!]

Let's see....in my universe I attended law school and also had to sue several ex-roomates who were deadbeats for money that they skipped out on. Upon entering the county clerk's office I was handed all of my paperwork including a copy of the federal and state statute that disallow attorney's when filing in small claims court. Now if you are suing for over $10,000 , then you may have an attorney since you have now entered into a more complex legal area. Now when you hit that arena you will have to show actual damages not just perceived loss.
Ooooh, SNAP!!

[Papergirl]

Samuel, I have pictures of every room of your house. I've never showed anyone. Maybe I should post them. There are no laws about that sort of thing. I know, I checked.

Far as the childish remarks about body odor... There is no subject that would appeal to two old fanboys more than commenting about body odor in general. Amazing...

Yay! More blackmail from the Twit!

~Bev

[Typo Lad]

Alright, I have a six year old to get to bed, a multiple-page pitch for an RPG publisher to work on, and an anthology to read submissions for. I'm loging off.

I just once more that we all try to stick to the witnessed behaviors, rather than feeling the need to exagerate or add.

[NatGertler]

Nat,
I'm under no obligation in any respect to reveal information until I'm either instructed to, or that information is made available to those needing it directly. I realize that you have some problem understanding ethics, but if you are claiming that you're not keeping your word because someone else told you not to, you are either making the choice not to keep your word, or you are in a chain of command.... and if it's the latter, the people who you are not keeping your word do deserve to know just why you gave a word that you cannot keep and who is next up in the chain of command so that they can raise the issue with them.

[Papergirl]

My "Magic 8-Ball" can answer that question better than his pretend lawyer can.
Magic 8 Ball says, "What the FUCK are you thinking?! There IS no lawyer!"

~Bev

[DocAbsurd]

Yeah, and you bought everything that was said about me as truth and involved yourself. Tony Isabella is a 'big' name in the industry. "Gail Simone" is a big name in the industry. Scott Shaw is a 'big' name in the industry. Mark Waid is a 'big' name in the industry. Kurt Busiek is a 'big' name in the industry.
Heck, even Paul Smith is a 'big' name in the industry. I had no control over how they sought to involve themselves. I don't know why, because none of them are allegedly owed anything by me or my company.

I get the whole stick together and mark on castle Frankenstein with torches and pitch forks to confront the monster. I'm just unaware how a series of private legal matters are thought to be decided on a message board ... ESPECIALLY this message board; A poorer abuse of ethic and morality doesn't exist elsewhere. Sarah Beach is on this because it makes her look good to her guru, Chuck Dixon. Hell, for all I know... aww, forget it.

Um, Bubba, you just dragged another person into your battle. Paul did nothing except contribute a short story to our anthology. He has taken no public stance against you, he hasn't been part of any of this matter, I'm not even sure if he's registered on CBR.

You do realize that this whole mess started because you tried bringing me into your personal crusade against Chuck? You wanted me in your side, and you figured I'd just love the notoriety. You slammed Kurt, Mark, Scott, and so many others who had absolutely no stake in any of this until you flapped your gums.

People help people. People with compassion for those who've been, let's be polite and say, 'shafted' by your inaction over payment for work you openly solicited, accepted, advertised about seem to want to help us.

You've left many of us in very serious financial situations. You promised money, you had them sign contracts, you gave them every reason to believe they were gonna get their first big break from you in a very legitimate business. I know of a few of them who initially turned down other work to be exclusive too your vision.

Instead we have debts, missed payments, unnecessary stress and now legal threats from you. Is there any wonder people are quite literally lining up to assist?

And, yes, I said 'legal threats'. You've done nothing but threaten creators who spoke up only about not being paid with some sort of undefined legal action. Including myself. You do realize that can be taken into consideration for damages?

As for the public aspect . . .

This forum is nothing more than a virtual version of a group of people sitting around and talking. We didn't make up the fact that you didn't pay us. If we had been sitting in, say, a coffeehouse talking about the same stuff, would you have jumped into our conversation to attempt some foolish repudiation of an open discourse? You are the interruption here; if you hadn't barged in, this thread probably woulda died a peaceful death, buried in the depths of a very public and active forum.

And if I were you --

I'd become a truly solitary Wiccan and practice that solitude until I was really damn good at it.

No, wait.

If I were you --

I'd shut my mouth and check into surgical procedures to keep it that way.

No, wait. One more time.

If I were you, I wouldn't bring up 'ethics' or 'morality'. Your closing statement was a thinly veiled insult about the professional relationship between Chuck and Sarah. You have no right to doubt anyone's morality when you insist on closing every post with an inane sexual innuendo against someone. Anyone. And you most certainly have shown you have no ethics when it comes to your business practices. Donald Trump's hairpiece is spinning in its grave.

I plan on emailing Paul about this, Olney. I'm sure you'll have another professional scared into submission. 'Course, I'd love to hear your spin on someone contributing in a anthology . . .




Doc 'Marking on Castle Olney-stein' Absurd

[TomStillwell]

Tony,

Come on, Tony. We Italians aren't afraid of anything, except of having our olive oil taken from us! :D

Best,

Samuel

Yeah!

Stillwell? Italian?

My grandpa was Rocco Arcera.

[TomStillwell]

Personally I think Rick came back here to threaten everybody because he now realizes this is something he not going to get away with anymore. Legal action has been taken against him and everytime he tries to continue on as usual (ie Jim's Yahoo Group, Superhero forum) his past behaviour gets brought up by somebody from here. That's why he's making big bold threats to sue everybody, what he really wants is for all you to stop so he can find more people to "hire."

And yeah, if Rick actually had a lawyer he wouldn't be here making these threats.

He's scared people will find out truth that he's worked so hard to conceal and manipulate for years.

[NatGertler]

When any civil suits from me are concerned -- I have no control over that. Wow. First you have no responsibility for your own words, now you have no control over your own actions? What dreadful situation are you in? Are you being held a slave by someone? Because if so, you should reach out for help.

And if not, you should learn about honor, and about responsibility. You should understand that you are responsible for your actions, and that keeping your word is your responsibility, and one that you're not living up to.

By this stage in your life, you should have figured those things out.

[Charles RB]

He's scared people will find out truth that he's worked so hard to conceal and manipulate for years.

It's a bit late in the day to worry about that...

[Magneto_X]

I hope not...I'd hate the trial be called on account of a mental evaluation.

<<----would love to read a report of a psychologist who evaluates Olney

[Matt Doc Martin]

<<----would love to read a report of a psychologist who evaluates Olney

Diagnosis: Bat-shit crazy.

[Kurt Busiek]

No,Bubbles... as I tried to intimate -- I was asking a hypothetical.

Ah. Then you can remember which people you've cheated.

Good to know.

kdb

[Sarah Beach]

Wow. Finally caught up. Took all day (in the midst of working).

Thanks for speaking up for me, Tim. I appreciate that. Even though he's out of his gourd. I mean, I respect the heck out of Chuck, but I wouldn't mess with the man's marriage. Besides which, he's, like, 3,000 miles away!

Tom & Matt, it occured to me as I was catching up, that the peanut's frenzied posting was to drive far away on the pages the notice that he's been served with a garnishment of income. So perhaps we need to bring that information up to date as soon as you can.

:)

[TomStillwell]

Fine. Let Tom handle it as he's handled everything else. He must really be a trusted employee around that office setting he 'works' at. I mean, lying to county and town clerks to get FoL's outside of the required procedure, perhaps misrepresenting himself, was it?

I know of no case. Hope you have the right Rick Olney. You're combined brain power around here on checking what you claim are 'facts' is already suspect. I never dissolved TightLip Entertainment. I merely refiled it without impunity to add two functions that we're taking on this year.

Sorry, lying is what you do. I have no skill for it, what with me always being honest. Sometimes so much it hurts.

It's pretty simple. I'll try to explain it so even you can understand.

I have a cell phone. I eat lunch. I'm off the clock at lunch. I dial a number that is available to the public.

"Hello, I'm calling from Chicago. I'm wondering if you can tell me the status of a DBA called Tightlip Entertainment."

The clerk, being a civil servant and obligated by the Freedom of Information Act, responds to my query.

"Tightlip Entertainment being formed back in 2004 and it was dissolved in 01/11/07, Barbara and Richard Olney were the parties involved. I see it being reformed 01/27/07, with just Richard Olney."

"Same name, same spelling?"

"Yes, it's the same."

"Can I get this in writing?"

"It's $5 for a certified copy. You'll have to mail a request and check."

"Thanks for your help. Have a nice day."

Tomorrow I order the certified copy. I wasn't going to but unlike you, Olney, when someone calls me a liar I can back up my words with proof.

By the way, Gary's wondering where he can apply that Writ of Garnishment to. Since you're unemployed with no actualy income except from your wife.

You'll probably need to provide that information in court Wednesday too.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Sorry, lying is what you do. I have no skill for it, what with me always being honest. Sometimes so much it hurts.

It's pretty simple. I'll try to explain it so even you can understand.

I have a cell phone. I eat lunch. I'm off the clock at lunch. I dial a number that is available to the public.

"Hello, I'm calling from Chicago. I'm wondering if you can tell me the status of a DBA called Tightlip Entertainment."

The clerk, being a civil servant and obligated by the Freedom of Information Act, responds to my query.

"Tightlip Entertainment being formed back in 2004 and it was dissolved in 01/11/07, Barbara and Richard Olney were the parties involved. I see it being reformed 01/27/07, with just Richard Olney."

"Same name, same spelling?"

"Yes, it's the same."

"Can I get this in writing?"

"It's $5 for a certified copy. You'll have to mail a request and check."

"Thanks for your help. Have a nice day."

Tomorrow I order the certified copy. I wasn't going to but unlike you, Olney, when someone calls me a liar I can back up my words with proof.

By the way, Gary's wondering where he can apply that Writ of Garnishment to. Since you're unemployed with no actualy income except from your wife.

You'll probably need to provide that information in court Wednesday too.


Well, doesn't he get disability from the government as well? Also, he has a comic collection that could be sold.

My guess is either one of those is fair game.

[willtupper]

I'm still real new here, but I think I might be hallucinating.

Did, um... did he come back? And is he posting, again?

[Kurt Busiek]

Let's see....in my universe I attended law school and also had to sue several ex-roomates who were deadbeats for money that they skipped out on.

In Rick's universe, the plaintiff has no control over civil suits he brings -- all he needs to do is point out what he considers to be demeaning statements, libel and threats to the attention of "those people that enforce civil law," and from that point on, it's out of his hands.

And he can pay imaginary lawyers with Happy Meals and crack.

Rick's universe is strange.

kdb

[Draconomicon]

I just once more that we all try to stick to the witnessed behaviors, rather than feeling the need to exagerate or add.

Very good point.

[Linkara]

I'm still real new here, but I think I might be hallucinating.

Did, um... did he come back? And is he posting, again?

Yep, he was posting for about fifty or sixty pages or so. Whew! We really brought ourselves that much closer to 1000 pages. @_@

[NatGertler]

Now if you are suing for over $10,000 , then you may have an attorney since you have now entered into a more complex legal area. Now when you hit that arena you will have to show actual damages not just perceived loss.That may vary from state to state.
From this site on New York Small Claims court (http://www.courts.state.ny.us/ithaca/city/webpageguidetosmallclaims.html):
If you choose, you may be represented by an attorney at your own expense, but it is not necessary to have an attorney since Small Claims Court is meant to be a "people's court" where claims may be tried speedily, informally, and inexpensively. The defendant has the same choice. If there are attorneys on both sides, the case may be transferred to a regular part of the court.

[Calliope's Comics]

In Rick's universe, the plaintiff has no control over civil suits he brings -- all he needs to do is point out what he considers to be demeaning statements, libel and threats to the attention of "those people that enforce civil law," and from that point on, it's out of his hands.

And he can pay imaginary lawyers with Happy Meals and crack.

Rick's universe is strange.

kdb

You know the strangest thing is that there is a song by D-12 that mentions paying someone in Happy Meals and crack. It also mentions heart attacks and someone(Everlast from the former House of Pain) being pwt.

[Sarah Beach]

I'm still real new here, but I think I might be hallucinating.

Did, um... did he come back? And is he posting, again?

That bleeding heart avatar is indeed himself. And posting.

[willtupper]

Only the Olney
(r.orbison/melson/tupper)

Dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah
Ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah
Oh-oh-oh-oh-wah
Only the lonely

Only the Olney (dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah)
Knows why he didn't pay the money(ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah)
Only the Olney (dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah)
That he owes everybody(dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah)

There goes my NDA
There goes my paycheck - hey!
Theyre gone forever
So far apart

But only the Olney
Knows why
We cry
Only the Olney

Dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah
Ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah
Oh-oh-oh-oh-wah
Only the lonely

Only the Olney
Knows the heartaches they've been through
Only the Olney
Knows why he do what he do

Maybe tomorrow
A new day
No more sorrow
Rip up that NDA!
And finally pay... today, Rick
Only the Olney

Dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah

[willtupper]

Ha! I KNEW that's what it was!

Maybe everyone who Rick owes money should change to dollar sign avatars.

See if it influences his subconscious into owning up to who he owes.

That bleeding heart avatar is indeed himself. And posting.

[NatGertler]

And he can pay imaginary lawyers with Happy Meals and crack.Y'know, if you give imaginary lawyers the crack first, they may not even want the Happy Meals after. Savings!

[Calliope's Comics]

That may vary from state to state.
From this site on New York Small Claims court (http://www.courts.state.ny.us/ithaca/city/webpageguidetosmallclaims.html):
If you choose, you may be represented by an attorney at your own expense, but it is not necessary to have an attorney since Small Claims Court is meant to be a "people's court" where claims may be tried speedily, informally, and inexpensively. The defendant has the same choice. If there are attorneys on both sides, the case may be transferred to a regular part of the court.



It must just apply then to our federal district and local state courts.
And look here :
A formal apology to Rick. I made a mistake on the laws that pertain to your local federal district and state courts.

[Matt Doc Martin]

It must just apply then to our federal district and local state courts.
And look here :
A formal apology to Rick. I made a mistake on the laws that pertain to your local federal district and state courts.

Here's more info for Rick.


Florida Small Claims Court



Small Claims are heard in County Court.
# Statutes: Florida Rules of Court: Small Claims Rules, Rules 7.101-7.345
# Dollar Limit: $5,000.
# Where To Sue: Where defendant resides or injury occurred. Contracts Where agreed, if contract provides; where unsecured note was signed or where maker resides; where breach occurred. To recover property Where property is. U.S. corporation resides where it maintains office for customary business. Foreign corporation resides where it has an agent.
# Service: Registered mail with return receipt (Florida residents only), peace officer or court-approved disinterested adult.
# Hearing Date: Within 60 days after pre-trial conference set by the court.
# Attorneys: Allowed; court may require for collection agents and assignees.
# Transfer: If defendant counterclaims for more than $2,500, case tried under regular civil procedure of County Court.
# Appeals: By either side for review of law, not facts; to Circuit Court within 30 days.
# Special Provisions: Equitable relief available. Jury trial available. Party represented by attorney is subject to discovery. Defendant must file counterclaim in writing at least 5 days before appearance date. Eviction cases allowed.

Note: This section outlines the special rules that apply to the small claims courts of all 50 states and the District of Columbia. Filing fees are not listed because they vary greatly and change frequently. This information was last updated in 2004. Because court rules may change at any time, always check with the clerk of the small claims court to verify the accuracy of the information given for your state.

[EdContradictory]

No, actually the way it happened has no reason to change. It is factual. And I am no longer in possession of your many emails. My attorney has them so I can't comment on what you've typed here.

Rick... if you print up copies of an email or even forward a copy of it to someone else... you still have it in your possession in your computer.

Yeesh.

[Rick Olney]

It must just apply then to our federal district and local state courts.
And look here :
A formal apology to Rick. I made a mistake on the laws that pertain to your local federal district and state courts.

Did you say that you attended Law school? ;)

When this is all said and done ---three things will be known to be fact.

1. I don't do small claims court. It can be easily undone.
2. I have not been lying.
3. Several people here will be exactly in the position they stated all along that I would be in. Only, I will be in better shape than the poor fools that actually think they can put this in print:

Doc 'Almost . . . There' Absurd
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject: Mission Statement Reply with quote
We call ourselves 'creators'; authors, pencilers, inkers, painters, colorists, letterers. Together and individually, we create novels, comic books, webstrips, giving readers a glimpse into our minds, into our lives.

We're passionate about our craft, driven, compelled by an inexplicable need to express ourselves in some tangible format. We sit at our desks and easels, pounding away at keyboards, sketching with our pencils, manipulating pigments with brushes and pens in the name of creativity.

Sometimes, oftentimes, that passion overrides our common sense. We absolutely need to express ourselves, to get that expression out for public consumption and, yes, adulation. Many of us have yet to reach that 'professional' status we so crave, if only measured by readers. Many of us are looking for that first real 'break'.

And with our creative souls laid bare, we sometimes allow ourselves to be duped by faint praise, promises of publication, contracts and negotiations that make unscrupulous offers seem genuine.

Enter Rick Olney, a publisher and convention promoter of questionable repute. Through various venues such as his website, his comic book publishing company, his often canceled conventions, he has sucked many of us up-and-coming as well as solidly-established professional creators into what's becoming an intricate web of deceit.

Gail Simone, noted comic book author and moderator of the 'You'll All Be Sorry' forums at Comic Book Resources, spoke against him most recently in December 2006 by posting more of the vitriol he has hurled at her since the 2003 MiniCon Olney hosted and she graciously attended. Ronee Bourgeois, actress and columnist of 'What a Girl Wants' now hosted at Mike Netzer's 'rEvolution' site, resigned as Olney's Public Relations representative, citing lack of payment and intimidating legal tactics during the 7 months of her tenure. Timothy J Tobolski, cartoonist and former-toy reviewer for Olney's website, entered the discussion when he found himself being dragged into another of Olney's self-publicized arguments; he too had not been paid for columns he did 3 years ago.

Suddenly, others began admitting what they had been through in their association with Olney. The floodgates literally broke free as more and more either emailed Gail privately because of feared legal repurcussions or openly joined the public venting: creators, both small press and well-respected professionals; web-designers; former columnists; letterers; editors; retailers; convention-goers; people behind the scenes of his yet-to-be released comic book line; even those who had only encountered his venomous attacks on other forums became part of the staggering numbers. Discussions became heated when Olney joined in, at first to defend himself through more legal intimidation and outright insults then to erase his prior threats as if to pretend they never occured.

In the short month since Gail began this monstrous thread, over 7500 replies have been posted, dozens upon dozens upon dozens of what have become known as 'Onley's Orphans' have been identified and debts incrued by him are approximated between $60,000 and $100,000.

And then something incredible happened.

A suggestion was made to redirect negative energies away from Olney and into something positive, something to help those who have little or no chance of seeing what they're owed from him in the foreseeable future. A comic book anthology for the summer convention season alongside an on-going auction immediately sprang to mind. Offers of contribuitons to both began pouring in. Larry Dixon proposed the name 'UNSCREWED!', in direct reflection of such heart-felt determination to 'unscrew' the unscrupulous actions of one man. Construction began on a website. Scott Shaw! and Sarah Beach have joined the editorial staff. Mark Waid has extended his generosity to front anyone's legal bills against Olney. Ian Shires is assisting with the publication. Small press groups such as Lance Boucher's InterFan organization are throwing in their support. Many convention-goers, convention organizers and retailers have already commited to promoting the benefit comic everywhere they go.

You can help, too. Contributions from professional-quality creators are still being accepted to both the anthology and the auction. Webstrips are being sought to help ease the tension with a touch of humor. A forum is running on the UNSCREWED! website (http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/index.php?msg=Cool for constructive discussion. Fans and retailers are invited, even if all you can offer is moral support.

You have before you a pair of concerted endeavors to relieve the financial bind so many of 'Olney's Orphans' are finding themselves in. This has truly become an inspiring event, despite its origins in deceit and deception. So many creators are coming together in the name of a good cause. We realize we cannot hope to match penny for penny the massive debt, but we will do what we can.

We call ourselves 'creators'; authors, pencilers, inkers, painters, colorists, letterers. Today, we stand together against the heinous actions of one individual. There is no more 'individually'. We are all truly 'creators'.

NOTE: Any funds raised by these benefits in no way relieves Rick Olney from his financial obligations to the multitude of creators he has 'screwed'. Anyone seeking further legal actions against this individual should continue until his debts have been settled.

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"Olney's Orphans'?" :eek:

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Dude, we'll be in print before you ever will be! I'm one of the editors on the Unscrewed! book, and I've done this before. And delivered that book in 6 1/2 months from conception to in-hand. Can you say that?

No, I thought not.

And anyone who goes over to the Unscrewed! site will find that we're not intending to reference you directly in the stories at all. Why would we? It's not about you, jerk.



Dear me, what am I to make of this? Really?

Calls for living up to one's contracted obligations (ie, paying people for work) is an "abuse of ethic and morality"? (By the way, peanut, that should be "abuse of ethics and morals" - but trying to teach you proper use of English is obviously a waste of time.)

Chuck isn't my "guru". He's my friend.

If I have a guru (although I prefer the term "sensei"), it's Denny O'Neil.

And "For all I know..... aww. forget it"??? What the heck are you trying to imply there? Especially after making the "claim" that I'd doing this to "look good to" Chuck? You are weird, dude. Out of your gourd.

Just for your information: I don't need to "make myself look good" to Chuck. Our friendship is pretty well grounded on a number of factors that have absolutely nothing to do with you. You, peanut (you don't deserve the moniker "sir"), are a pimple on the face of the universe. About to be lanced and cleaned away.


Ya see, when I first read this heinous verbal garabage towards my friend Sarah I was compelled to respond in her defense. I held off to cool off but then Sarah posted this and reminded me she doesn't need protection from anyone. Keep smoking him Scrib. It's fun to watch.

[Rick Olney]

Rick... if you print up copies of an email or even forward a copy of it to someone else... you still have it in your possession in your computer.

Yeesh.

I'm aware of that. Unfortunately, that computer no longer exists...if we're talking about last mid-year last or earlier. Well, unless it is in a landfill somewhere. I don't know if the pieces can be put together.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Did you say that you attended Law school? ;)

When this is all said and done ---three things will be known to be fact.

1. I don't do small claims court. It can be easily undone.
2. I have not been lying.
3. Several people here will be exactly in the position they stated all along that I would be in. Only, I will be in better shape than the poor fools that actually think they can put this in print:


Yes. Keep ignoring the judgments against you. They'll go away. Really.

And yes, you HAVE been lying. Even when given every opportunity to tell the truth.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'm aware of that. Unfortunately, that computer no longer exists...if we're talking about last mid-year last or earlier. Well, unless it is in a landfill somewhere. I don't know if the pieces can be put together.

Depending on what email service you were using, I bet their servers still have it. Or haven't you learned yet what you said cannot be so easily deleted?

[kingdom2000]

As I keep saying, to sue all you need is the will and the money. That's it.

You don't need facts, evidence or any of that stuff. You do if you want to win, but not one to actually file a lawsuit and try to scare someone, waste time and someone else's money (a defense can cost as much if not more).

Rick probably has the will, but probably is lacking the money. In this case you pretty much have someone with no money threatening to sue people with no money (so a lawyer isn't going to do the % of win thing) so the net result is a lot of words but no action.

[OzBat!]

3. Several people here will be exactly in the position they stated all along that I would be in. Only, I will be in better shape than the poor fools that actually think they can put this in print:

"Olney's Orphans'?" :eek:And what, pray tell, do you think this will prove in court? It's a historical overview, showing that a group of people all seeking redress from you, have gotten together to help raise some funds of their own while waiting on you making good with your contracted, morally obligated, badly delayed payments. Nothing more. I wouldn't drag that anywhere near a courtroom if I were you, it reflects very poorly on you.

[Rick Olney]

Ya see, when I first read this heinous verbal garabage towards my friend Sarah I was compelled to respond in her defense. I held off to cool off but then Sarah posted this and reminded me she doesn't need protection from anyone. Keep smoking him Scrib. It's fun to watch.

Yeah, best that you did...

Sarah doesn't need your help in replying to my answers to her posts. least wise, it doesn't or has ever looked like it.

[OzBat!]

As I keep saying, to sue all you need is the will and the money. That's it.

You don't need facts, evidence or any of that stuff. You do if you want to win, but not one to actually file a lawsuit and try to scare someone, waste time and someone else's money (a defense can cost as much if not more).

Rick probably has the will, but probably is lacking the money. In this case you pretty much have someone with no money threatening to sue people with no money (so a lawyer isn't going to do the % of win thing) so the net result is a lot of words but no action.Ah, but as he's actually had a garnishment awarded against him, there's the prospect of some of that no-money being taken from him and given to the people who he's threatening. And they with the most no-money win!!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yeah, best that you did...

Sarah doesn't need your help in replying to my answers to her posts. least wise, it doesn't or has ever looked like it.

You, however, need all the help you can get.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Only the Olney
(r.orbison/melson/tupper)

Dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah
Ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah
Oh-oh-oh-oh-wah
Only the lonely

Only the Olney (dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah)
Knows why he didn't pay the money(ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah)
Only the Olney (dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah)
That he owes everybody(dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah)

There goes my NDA
There goes my paycheck - hey!
Theyre gone forever
So far apart

But only the Olney
Knows why
We cry
Only the Olney

Dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah
Ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah
Oh-oh-oh-oh-wah
Only the lonely

Only the Olney
Knows the heartaches they've been through
Only the Olney
Knows why he do what he do

Maybe tomorrow
A new day
No more sorrow
Rip up that NDA!
And finally pay... today, Rick
Only the Olney

Dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah

Good job, Will

I adapted that song as well much earlier on this thread. My version went like this:

Only The Olney (with apologies to Roy Orbison)

Only the Olney (dum-dum-dum-dum-N-D-A)
Knows the way to fight (ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah)
Only the Olney (dum-dum-dum-N-D-A)
Knows he is always right! (dum-dum-dum-dum-N-D-A)

There goes his money
There goes his behind
Theyre gone forever
Gail blew his mind

But only the Olney
Knows why
he cry
Only the Olney

[Calliope's Comics]

[QUOTE=Rick Olney;4446308]Did you say that you attended Law school? ;)

When this is all said and done ---three things will be known to be fact.

1. I don't do small claims court. It can be easily undone.
QUOTE]

Actually yes I did. In Illinois. Which is in a different Federal District than you are in . Which means that they can have different laws. Which is why when you are admitted to the bar in one state it does not necessarily qualify you to practice law in another state.

Small claims can not be easily undone. You need to file an appeal, and the court of appeals then determines whether or not you have a legal not factual objection. The objection can only pertain to a judge not following a rule of law, or in very rare cases the finding of evidence that was not available at the time of trial. The cost of an appeal is very high (usually in the 1-2k dollar range just for paperwork, add in attorney's fees and you can add another 1k onto it)

[Matt Doc Martin]

I had a "surprise" for you at MegaCon as well, Rick.

Here it is/was:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/valentine.jpg


Bummer you missed it.

[Sarah Beach]

Did you say that you attended Law school? ;)

When this is all said and done ---three things will be known to be fact.

1. I don't do small claims court. It can be easily undone.

"It can be easily undone"? And here I thought you were indicating ever since NOVEMBER that you were willing to let the courts decide. Now you're implying that you won't abide by even a court decision. You are seriously demented.

2. I have not been lying.

Don't make my head hurt. You lie all the time. You deny your own statements, that can be quoted back to you word-for-word.

3. Several people here will be exactly in the position they stated all along that I would be in. Only, I will be in better shape than the poor fools that actually think they can put this in print:
RO reproduces the Unscrewed! mission statement. No need to repeat again, it speaks for itself


"Olney's Orphans'?" :eek:

I don't see what it is that you think is actionable in any of that. But then, that's hardly surprising, given that you seem to think everything is actionable.

What a fartin' farce.

[Rick Olney]

And what, pray tell, do you think this will prove in court? It's a historical overview, showing that a group of people all seeking redress from you, have gotten together to help raise some funds of their own while waiting on you making good with your contracted, morally obligated, badly delayed payments. Nothing more. I wouldn't drag that anywhere near a courtroom if I were you, it reflects very poorly on you.

Yeah, sure...

Ozbat, I have every intention of doing what I need to do legally to address the outlandish attacks against me personally.

Anything with my name is it I'm placing a claim on. Any instance of suggested libel will get it closed down. As it is, sk716 will be having all the attention that a person going to that extreme deserves.

I would've thought it was wiser to wait until the matter was cleared by a court of law. But no, people like JT spout off, "And I don't think that these particular professionals will mind the mentions. It's not like their connection to the fracus is unknown." -- No, why would talented, artistic people, with egos bigger than their talent have a problem with being mentioned in print? I also believe big egos usually mean insecure people trying to outwit their own insecurity. And I'm the topic of this thread that shall mark the loss of many potential talents. Nasty, long drawn out court cases do that to a person when they don't win.

[Sarah Beach]

Yeah, best that you did...

Sarah doesn't need your help in replying to my answers to her posts. least wise, it doesn't or has ever looked like it.

No, I don't need the help. But, unlike you, I actually have friends who are willing to speak up for me. And the talented J. Morgan Neal is one of them.

And oh, by the way, he's also managed to get a comic book into print (and a darned good one too!). Can you say that, Mr. Olney? Hmmm, not the last time I checked!

[Calliope's Comics]

Yeah, sure...



Anything with my name is it I'm placing a claim on. Any instance of suggested libel will get it closed down. .


Rick,
You may want to check with the Supreme Court on that since in the Falwell/Flynt case they ruled that using a person's name is not akin to libel even when the usage is derogatory in nature. All people here have to do is state that all things that were not factual were a parody of a public figure, which you are as a publisher.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yeah, sure...

Ozbat, I have every intention of doing what I need to do legally to address the outlandish attacks against me personally.

Anything with my name is it I'm placing a claim on. Any instance of suggested libel will get it closed down. As it is, sk716 will be having all the attention that a person going to that extreme deserves.

I would've thought it was wiser to wait until the matter was cleared by a court of law. But no, people like JT spout off, "And I don't think that these particular professionals will mind the mentions. It's not like their connection to the fracus is unknown." -- No, why would talented, artistic people, with egos bigger than their talent have a problem with being mentioned in print? I also believe big egos usually mean insecure people trying to outwit their own insecurity. And I'm the topic of this thread that shall mark the loss of many potential talents. Nasty, long drawn out court cases do that to a person when they don't win.


YOUR ACTIONS cost you talent. YOUR WORDS cost you talent.

Why is something so bleeding obvious so oblivious to you?

As I said to you and I repeat...I will continue to point people out to YOUR ACTIONS AND WORDS and let them decide if they want to work for you or appear for you.

Betcha you never have the Ghost Hunters again. Or any major comic creator. Or any of the smaller creators Papergirl and I talked to. All they have to do is see you in action. You want to sue someone for costing you business? Look in the mirror, peanut.

[Charles RB]

2. I have not been lying.

Most evidence dug up seems to prove you are, and you've already stated earlier you don't want to offer counter-proof.

the poor fools that actually think they can put this in print:

Well... they can put it in print. There is no law preventing someone from making a product and giving all proceeds to a group of people who weren't paid by an employer. That does not count as libel.

The comments Tim's using to promote Unscrewed could be accused of libel, except they aren't. You have canceled conventions. Ronee Bourgeois did resign as your PR rep, citing lack of payment and intimidating legal tactics and has shown evidence of this. Tim did enter the fray after you used him an argument and hasn't been paid for columns he did. Others involved have been joining the discussion and allegedly E-mailing Gail. None of it counts as libel, as it's not made up.

So why can't he print either the comic or his comments?

[Sarah Beach]

I would've thought it was wiser to wait until the matter was cleared by a court of law. But no, people like JT spout off, "And I don't think that these particular professionals will mind the mentions. It's not like their connection to the fracus is unknown." -- No, why would talented, artistic people, with egos bigger than their talent have a problem with being mentioned in print? I also believe big egos usually mean insecure people trying to outwit their own insecurity. And I'm the topic of this thread that shall mark the loss of many potential talents. Nasty, long drawn out court cases do that to a person when they don't win.

You are so full of it.

"Egos bigger than their talent"? Sounds more like you than any of the professionals who have chosen to support and/or participate in the Unscrewed! project.

And most of them are pretty humble about it, in the sense that they're not really expecting any return from it, other than appreciation and thanks. Which they're getting.

[Charles RB]

Anything with my name is it I'm placing a claim on.

What, including this thread? You're going to get it closed down and take legal action against everyone who posted?

Good luck with that.

And I'm the topic of this thread that shall mark the loss of many potential talents. Nasty, long drawn out court cases do that to a person when they don't win.

I'm sorry, but why wouldn't people like Gail and Chuck Dixon win a civil court case? It's established fact you didn't pay Dixon - how would he lose a case that would basically be you suing him for saying you hadn't paid him?

[Papergirl]

Yeah, sure...

Ozbat, I have every intention of doing what I need to do legally to address the outlandish attacks against me personally.

Anything with my name is it I'm placing a claim on. Any instance of suggested libel will get it closed down. As it is, sk716 will be having all the attention that a person going to that extreme deserves.

I would've thought it was wiser to wait until the matter was cleared by a court of law. But no, people like JT spout off, "And I don't think that these particular professionals will mind the mentions. It's not like their connection to the fracus is unknown." -- No, why would talented, artistic people, with egos bigger than their talent have a problem with being mentioned in print? I also believe big egos usually mean insecure people trying to outwit their own insecurity. And I'm the topic of this thread that shall mark the loss of many potential talents. Nasty, long drawn out court cases do that to a person when they don't win.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good lord, you really ARE a twit, Twit. If you think you can stop Unscrewed, I think you better tell your "lawyer" to smack you upside the head until some common sense resides there. As a publisher, you ARE, indeed, a public figure. And as such, the parody rules apply.

In other words: Sucks to be YOU.

~Bev

[Yonar]

First off, I want to appologize. There are a lot more important people out there, with a lot more important beefs with Rick than mine, and I know I already adressed them in a calm, consise post.

But the words are eating at me, and the more I think about them, the more pissed I become.

So let me go one more time.


My ass is covered, and has been since day one. As far as your understanding this matter ... if it is a real concern, then the documentation should be in St Judes hands already.


BS. If St Judes doesn't have it, it is well within their rights to ask you for it, and failing response, file a case with the NY AG.
But that's really not what upsets me here, I couldn't care less. It is your responsibility though, if you want to avoid some heavy legal fees, to /give them your damn records/ so that they don't take you to court. Not doing so, then showing up and claiming you're being wrongfully prosecuted is not only stupid, but will get the judge to laugh at you as much as the rest of the thread already is.





That's okay. You're probably the bi-product of some liberal coupling resulting in some sort of spoiled cottage cheese lookin' mutant.

So I'm not concerned.

I'm fairly sure that each IP related to this huge matter has been obtained and will be matched to those emailed threats received. I'll make sure the authorities have warm cyber hands when you're checked. lol

IP adresses aren't obtained easily and freely Mr Olney. This is akin to wire tapping, and let me illuminate it for you a /bit/. YOU are not the subject of a god damned terrorist attack. THUS, to obtain and investigate individual IPS related to this case, you need a COURT SUBPEONA, in which you ask Internet Providors for the records of use.

If you have been searching out IPs from your own email, this is hardly admissible in a court of law, and THUS, is completely useless. Not to mention the fact, that you can't log IPs from a god forsaken /forum/ and have all of us 'investigated' by the 'authorities'. For one, the fucking authorities have more than enough real fucking problems without getting involved in a glorrified flame war, and for two IT'S FUCKING ILLEGAL!

Last, but not least, my parents are what would be known as conservatives. My looks play no part in this discussion, but in spite of my own dislike for my nose, many people seem to enjoy my features enough to date me.

Anyway. I'm sorry that I took time to say all of this again, but it just pissed me off to the end of the earth, to the point I wanted to say things a bit more passionately.

So FUCK YOU Rick.

You're a damn ASS.

LPJ

[Matt Doc Martin]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good lord, you really ARE a twit, Twit. If you think you can stop Unscrewed, I think you better tell your "lawyer" to smack you upside the head until some common sense resides there. As a publisher, you ARE, indeed, a public figure. And as such, the parody rules apply.

In other words: Sucks to be YOU.

~Bev


Older, balding, overweight misanthrope with a dodgy heart and worse morals? Yeah...it DOES suck to be Olney.

[DocAbsurd]

When this is all said and done ---three things will be known to be fact.

1. I don't do small claims court. It can be easily undone.
2. I have not been lying.
3. Several people here will be exactly in the position they stated all along that I would be in. Only, I will be in better shape than the poor fools that actually think they can put this in print:



"Olney's Orphans'?" :eek:

ooooooo, who's a clever Dick, then? Managed to sneak in the UNSCREWED! site, didja now?

Yup, I wrote that, and I'm bloody proud of it (although I can't claim credit for 'Olney's Orphans'). What of it?

We're doing something positive against -- as I said -- your heinous acts. I should add in 'lack of business ethics'. So what? If you'd read the fecking forum (which you should, since you took the effort to get inside), you'd see the theme has nothing to do with you. The editors are taking great pains in seeing to that. When the anthology is released, it'll be just that: a collection of short stories by various contributors. There won't even be any parodies of you.

What're you gonna do, buy a copy and wave it in the judge's face? 'But they meant me!'

Gonna try and get a C&D against us? Love to see you try and explain why you'd need one.

Y'see, Olney, the law protects the innocent. In this case, each and every single individual you'd screwed out of a dime you promised to pay them. This is a charitable effort, and we're making damn sure everyone who donates or contributes or just hangs out on the forums there knows it.

The reason why we're doing it is public fecking knowledge. I didn't realize until this past week-end how quickly tales of your antics have spread across the ethernet. Majority of the sites I saw I didn't even know existed. And the majority of them heard of you before they heard of this thread.

Face it, Olney: your reputation officially precedes you.

Go ahead, stop us.

Better yet, stop me. You pushed me here, Olney; think you can push me further? I've got one helluva staff assembled and creators waiting patiently to get in. Your constant barrage of bullshit is only serving to steel resolutions. Gail's right, you are a joke.




Doc 'Laughable' Absurd

[Guapo Méndez]

Somewhere an Imaginary Lawyer is thinking this is Internet's equivalent of sueing Big Tobacco.

When in reality, it's just a bunch of smoke.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Last, but not least, my parents are what would be known as conservatives. My looks play no part in this discussion, but in spite of my own dislike for my nose, many people seem to enjoy my features enough to date me.

Anyway. I'm sorry that I took time to say all of this again, but it just pissed me off to the end of the earth, to the point I wanted to say things a bit more passionately.

So FUCK YOU Rick.

You're a damn ASS.

LPJ


And most likely, you haven't had to pay women for sex.

Unlike a certain fat, balding, lying Rick Olney.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Somewhere an Imaginary Lawyer is thinking this is Internet's equivalent of sueing Big Tobacco.

When in reality, is just a bunch of smoke.

Do not be offended by this, but how is it that a Guapo Méndez, from Mexico, is able to speak perfect English and Rick Olney, a self-styled writer, mangles everything?

It is always a pleasure to read your posts.

Wish I could say the same for Olney.

[EdContradictory]

Does anyone else picture Matt Doc Martin as Tom Cruise in a Few Good Men , screaming at Olney as Jack Nicholson on the stand ? Because I'm picturing that right now.


Matt Doc Martin (Tom Cruise) : " I WANT THE TRUTH !! "

Olney ( Jack Nicholson : " You can't HANDLE THE TRUTH ! "

Yes. That might have come up once or twice... (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4228126&postcount=5375)

Oops. Matt already reposted it.

Thank you, sir.

[Typo Lad]

My Far Better Half has the child, the RPG pitch is basically done, and so I checked in.

As a balding man with a bit of a paunch, I ask that such things not be used as words of derision. Some people are folically challanged. Others are not model svelt. It's not a crime to be so.

Again, let us focus on what Olney has either said or done in front of us in this thread, or in the case of Tim, Ronee & the other "Orphans", what he has allegedly done to them.

Mr. Olney, I'm sorry if that release offends you. If you'd simply paid people it never would have happened.

Actions lead to consiquences.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yes. That might have come up once or twice... (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4228126&postcount=5375)

Oops. Matt already reposted it.

Thank you, sir.

I saved it, I loved it so.

[OzBat!]

I just like the fact that suddenly, Rick can reply to me! What, did Australia suddenly become part of the United States? Have the legal barriers to electronic communications been pushed over? Why doesn't anybody ever tell me these things beforehand??

[Guapo Méndez]

Do not be offended by this, but how is it that a Guapo Méndez, from Mexico, is able to speak perfect English and Rick Olney, a self-styled writer, mangles everything?


There's the whole 'mexican James Bond' thing.

Seriously, bilingual school when I was a kid, constant classes when I was growing up, lots of reading and watching US tv shows/movies without subtitles.


It is always a pleasure to read your posts.

Wish I could say the same for Olney.


Thank you, kind sir. I hope you get your day in court (for things will certainly go your way then and there).

[Danny Donovan]

Wow! I made it! Over half an hour of reading. (and truth be told, I did skim a bit, because of redundency.)

I'm sure by the time I post this, there will be another eleventy billion pages to read. But you know that's life. I have said it before and I'll say it again and again, this really has become a theater of the bizzare.

How DARE you call talented people who are working in the profession (and it is a profession, not a goddamn hobby) that you so actively aspire to be a part of the sorts of things you call them? And have the gall to call THEIR professionalisim into question when they don't lie down and take it.

How DARE you assume the right of the morally indiginant, then make veiled comments about a talented young woman using her "influence" to cozy up to a person she holds in high esteem for her own benifit? I know Sarah's already been "avenged" I'm coming to the party late, but it pisses me off more than anything else in this world.

Call comics a "hobby" fine. whatever. Make snippy remarks about people's talents who have years of work under their belts (like Gail and Tony, etc) that's petty, but expected. But to use the terms "ho" and "bitch" and make allusions that a woman cannot have a platonic relationship with a male colleague without trying to parlay that into something more insidious, that just makes me see red.

I know. I'm old scool. I just cannot abide by those who refuse to treat women with respect or view them as "inferior". I'm personally annoyed at anyone not being treated with respect (WHEN THEY EARN IT) But the sexist attitude that comes off of certain people just gets my ire up.

Like we haven't come along as a society to put that archaic thinking behind us? "Oh noes she's got boobies she must not be as talented or smart as me."

A lot of this noise comes from someone who wasted their lives chasing down every imagined slight (and don't tell me I don't know what I speak of here because I was witness to a lot of this) than doing something with their lives. That's another thing that irks me.

People who don't attempt anything great with their lives and begrudge those that do (and succeed) There is no vast conspiracy out there. There is no "man" holding anyone down. NOTHING IN THIS WORLD THAT'S WORTH ANYTHING IS EASY. Publishing is harder than anything else in this world for a number of reasons. A shrinking market, speed of talent, marketability of a concept. etc.

To cast dispersions on JT's work is another sad sorry thing. The man has serious skills. Skills I hope to utilize once I get my ducks in a row. (I'm still working on that thing to send you Jim)

how long ago was it that you were lauding him as a talent to be on the watch for? How long have you been priding over his work on these concepts. Of course now he wants money for his work (that he was promised) the work was "substandard."

It is a shotty workman that blames his tools.

Now for ALL of this stuff, I have been trying to be cordial. I did not (and will not) fall into name-calling or starting flame wars. However I will call a spade a spade. I don't like it when my friends are slighted, I don't like it one bit.

Over the years I have gotten more and more comments from people I consider talented and great friends. I will give you this though. For all of this malarky you are tossing about, you're bringing people together and for that I thank you.

Had you not thrown a hissy fit with Sara and myself, we probably wouldn't have reunited after all those years, and I wouldn't have moved my manga project over to her, which looks to be probably the biggest project I've ever worked on. (that includes my "15 minutes of non-fame" as it were)

Had you not done JT the way you did, I probably wouldn't have been able to parlay an alliance with him on another cool project that while probably won't be as big as the manga will be pretty damn neat if it comes together.

There is no excuse for unethical behavior. And for the record, there is nothing on the unscrewed! site that is actionable. Everything on there is merely a resource. I may not have gone to law school like CC, but I come from a family of lawyers, I live in a navy town full of JAG officers, so you do pick up some things here and there.

*growl*

[Matt Doc Martin]

There's the whole 'mexican James Bond' thing.

Seriously, bilingual school when I was a kid, constant classes when I was growing up, lots of reading and watching US tv shows/movies without subtitles.




Thank you, kind sir. I hope you get your day in court (for things will certainly go your way then and there).


The only way I am going to court is to watch Olney swing.

At this point, I have no reason to take him to court. I will leave that to the proper authorities. And assist anyone that needs my help with their cases.

[Linkara]

Have to say I agree with Typo Man. Call him a liar, call him a con man, call him a flim-flam artist, but attacking him for his physical attributes is just low and unbecoming of this forum.

[Guapo Méndez]

The only way I am going to court is to watch Olney swing.

At this point, I have no reason to take him to court. I will leave that to the proper authorities. And assist anyone that needs my help with their cases.

I hear you.

It strikes me as very funny that for a guy with nothing to hide, Rick Olney sure likes to raise a stink here. If I was lawyered up, I would write here after the fact, you know, to gloat. Not before when I'm providing ammo (sweet, delicious ammo) to those I claim I do not fear.

[Linkara]

*Danny Donovan's lengthy but totally awesome and correct post*

Here Here!

[Guapo Méndez]

Have to say I agree with Typo Man. Call him a liar, call him a con man, call him a flim-flam artist, but attacking him for his physical attributes is just low and unbecoming of this forum.

Yeah.

Attacking folks via their physical attributes is his thing, anyway.

[Sarah Beach]

Have to say I agree with Typo Man. Call him a liar, call him a con man, call him a flim-flam artist, but attacking him for his physical attributes is just low and unbecoming of this forum.

Sometimes it is hard to stand back that way, when the peanut makes offensive size remarks about Gail or Kurt or Scott Shaw or... well, almost anyone else.

Just sayin'.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I hear you.

It strikes me as very funny that for a guy with nothing to hide, Rick Olney sure likes to raise a stink here. If I was lawyered up, I would write here after the fact, you know, to gloat. Not before when I'm providing ammo (sweet, delicious ammo) to those I claim I do not fear.


Right. That is what a sane man would do.

(May I call him crazy? Is THAT ok?)

[Linkara]

Sometimes it is hard to stand back that way, when the peanut makes offensive size remarks about Gail or Kurt or Scott Shaw or... well, almost anyone else.

Just sayin'.

I hear you, but as Guapo said - it's HIS thing, and even though about fifty pages back I was joking about taking the low ground, we should be taking the high ground and proving the fact that we are morally superior to him.

[Linkara]

Right. That is what a sane man would do.

(May I call him crazy? Is THAT ok?)

If it fits for J-Bolt... ^_~

[kingdom2000]

Yeah, sure...

Ozbat, I have every intention of doing what I need to do legally to address the outlandish attacks against me personally.

Anything with my name is it I'm placing a claim on. Any instance of suggested libel will get it closed down. As it is, sk716 will be having all the attention that a person going to that extreme deserves.

I would've thought it was wiser to wait until the matter was cleared by a court of law. But no, people like JT spout off, "And I don't think that these particular professionals will mind the mentions. It's not like their connection to the fracus is unknown." -- No, why would talented, artistic people, with egos bigger than their talent have a problem with being mentioned in print? I also believe big egos usually mean insecure people trying to outwit their own insecurity. And I'm the topic of this thread that shall mark the loss of many potential talents. Nasty, long drawn out court cases do that to a person when they don't win.

Snicker, people taking legal action hide behind their lawyers. They don't have their lawyers hide behind them.

Enough with the silly and pointless threats. Its time to put up or shut up. Name your lawyer. Its that simple.

God you are a tiresome troll.

[Blake Petit]

Danny, I hope it never gets to be too "old school" to get pissed off when someone starts with ad hoc attacks against women. There are enough gentlemen left out there to stand up when that happens.

It wasn't my experience, but the disgusting statments made about Ronee that finally got me mad enough to share with the rest of the class.

[kingdom2000]

I just like the fact that suddenly, Rick can reply to me! What, did Australia suddenly become part of the United States? Have the legal barriers to electronic communications been pushed over? Why doesn't anybody ever tell me these things beforehand??

You have entered the Onley-verse. Where Australia is a state of the United States. Where knowledge of the law comes Boston Legal and Law & Order. Its his verse, we just live in it.

[Larry Dixon]

Someone only has as much power over you as you choose to give them. Bullies are also thieves; they steal away passion and time you could instead spend on other, better things.

If a bully makes you angry, gets a rise out of you, or otherwise wastes your valuable time and emotional energy, you're giving him something he wants.

A bully's worst nightmare---and source of constant dread---is their fear of ineffectiveness. It is what turns up their volume.

Dismiss their insults and bombast, give a bully no power over you, and move ahead towards positive results. Reserve your fury for when it does the most good; then, make the strike surgical and with finality. In the meantime, be serene, and keep the power you have for your own use.

[OzBat!]

You have entered the Onley-verse. Where Australia is a state of the United States. Where knowledge of the law comes Boston Legal and Law & Order. Its his verse, we just live in it.I'm guessing Australia finally signed that NDA the United States had Olney draft up for it.

And the first rule of NDA is you don't talk about NDA. That's why I never heard about the restriction on replying being dropped...

[Yonar]

Someone only has as much power over you as you choose to give them. Bullies are also thieves; they steal away passion and time you could instead spend on other, better things.

If a bully makes you angry, gets a rise out of you, or otherwise wastes your valuable time and emotional energy, you're giving him something he wants.

A bully's worst nightmare---and source of constant dread---is their fear of ineffectiveness. It is what turns up their volume.

Dismiss their insults and bombast, give a bully no power over you, and move ahead towards positive results. Reserve your fury for when it does the most good; then, make the strike surgical and with finality. In the meantime, be serene, and keep the power you have for your own use.


Mmm, good point. On that note, I think I have some writing to do. :)

And no, none of it has to do with Olney.

Thanks, as always, for reminding me to be a better human being. :)

[Linkara]

Mmm, good point. On that note, I think I have some writing to do. :)

And no, none of it has to do with Olney.

Thanks, as always, for reminding me to be a better human being. :)

I'm spending my time drawing pages for my webcomic - something that actually is produced and on time. ^_~

[Danny Donovan]

Here Here!

Thank you!

Danny, I hope it never gets to be too "old school" to get pissed off when someone starts with ad hoc attacks against women. There are enough gentlemen left out there to stand up when that happens.

It wasn't my experience, but the disgusting statments made about Ronee that finally got me mad enough to share with the rest of the class.

I hope not either, but I have to admit I've gotten into trouble charging into the field of battle for against those that don't know the meaning of "class" or "tact"

But I've come out on top in those instances. Which shows you acting honorably will get you a lot further than acting petty, and sad, and well Rick'ish.

[WhiteRose]

You have entered the Onley-verse. Where Australia is a state of the United States. Where knowledge of the law comes Boston Legal and Law & Order. Its his verse, we just live in it.

*shudders* I'm a firm believer Americans are crazy. Be it the good kinda crazy or the bad, they're crazy all the same. (I love you all! Except for...you know, the ones I don't.)

Thank you, now I have images of the lovely lady prosecutors from L&O dancing in my head. Dancing and singing 'open and shut case'.

[Matt Doc Martin]

*shudders* I'm a firm believer Americans are crazy. Be it the good kinda crazy or the bad, they're crazy all the same. (I love you all! Except for...you know, the ones I don't.)

Thank you, now I have images of the lovely lady prosecutors from L&O dancing in my head. Dancing and singing 'open and shut case'.

I am crazy. Have the meds and all to prove it.

wish I could see the ladies dancing...L&O has some fine looking fems.

[JTPencils]

I would've thought it was wiser to wait until the matter was cleared by a court of law. But no, people like JT spout off, "And I don't think that these particular professionals will mind the mentions. It's not like their connection to the fracus is unknown." -- No, why would talented, artistic people, with egos bigger than their talent have a problem with being mentioned in print? I also believe big egos usually mean insecure people trying to outwit their own insecurity. And I'm the topic of this thread that shall mark the loss of many potential talents. Nasty, long drawn out court cases do that to a person when they don't win.

Let's see.... this thread has been around for awhile now. So much so, that it's (mainly you and your shameful practice of "business") becoming known outside of the community here. Yet... those particular professionals don't seem to be "marking any loss", as far as I can see. So yeah, I spout, I shout, and I declare. You're a useless airbag who could lose a battle of wits against a tackling dummy. I said they don't mind the mentions, because they've spoken up here as well. I don't see any of them saying "shhhh... don't lump me in with those other folks..". Perhaps I missed it. But I don't think so. Now go away like a good lunatic and declare some new conspiracy theory against you. Who's hacking into your computer now? The FBI? The Secret Service? The Boy Scouts of America? You're loony.

[Danny Donovan]

I am crazy. Have the meds and all to prove it.

wish I could see the ladies dancing...L&O has some fine looking fems.

Claire Kincade was the best. She worked with Jack McCoy AND Robocop.

Actually how bad ass would it be to have a case that Robocop pursues and McCoy tries? :p

[WhiteRose]

Claire Kincade was the best. She worked with Jack McCoy AND Robocop.

Actually how bad ass would it be to have a case that Robocop pursues and McCoy tries? :p

I want my Angie Harmon and Stephanie March lawyers! Angie was the goddamn Batgirl! When she was old and commissioner-like, yes, but still the goddamn Batgirl!

[JTPencils]

To cast dispersions on JT's work is another sad sorry thing. The man has serious skills. Skills I hope to utilize once I get my ducks in a row. (I'm still working on that thing to send you Jim)

how long ago was it that you were lauding him as a talent to be on the watch for? How long have you been priding over his work on these concepts. Of course now he wants money for his work (that he was promised) the work was "substandard." ...


Had you not done JT the way you did, I probably wouldn't have been able to parlay an alliance with him on another cool project that while probably won't be as big as the manga will be pretty damn neat if it comes together.


Looking forward to it Danny. Though I WILL say, it might be a bit before I can get to it. Some nice things are developing on this end DUE to Rick being a dolt. So... in some way.. (God I hate to admit it), I may have to be thankful for his shabby ways. It's leading to MUCH better things!

(note to Danny... I think you meant aspersions... not dispersions. I'm only pointing this out, because we DO tend to jump down peanuts throat for misuse of language)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I just like the fact that suddenly, Rick can reply to me! What, did Australia suddenly become part of the United States? Have the legal barriers to electronic communications been pushed over? Why doesn't anybody ever tell me these things beforehand??

Rick finally got cable and saw Crocadile Dundee and realizes that Australia is part of the world. It shocked him . ;)

[Danny Donovan]

Looking forward to it Danny. Though I WILL say, it might be a bit before I can get to it. Some nice things are developing on this end DUE to Rick being a dolt. So... in some way.. (God I hate to admit it), I may have to be thankful for his shabby ways. It's leading to MUCH better things!

(note to Danny... I think you meant aspersions... not dispersions. I'm only pointing this out, because we DO tend to jump down peanuts throat for misuse of language)

No prob JT! I have some roads to hoe as well. lol. Isn't it nice being a working professional? :p

And yes, that is what I meant. my apologise for the typo. I just woke up and I was trying to type my rant, while program my TiVo in case I decide to go back to bed. lol.

[Rick Olney]

Good question:

1) CLAIM: Rick would have me arrested.
REALITY: I am a free man, and the Lakeland authorities haven't heard squat from him.

TRUTH:Your 'freedom' remains to be seen. Frankly, I believe that you're slowly being consumed from within. I'd advise you to read THE HOST by Sturgeon. Seriously. Before it is too late.


2) CLAIM: Rick would be at MegaCon, and "had a surprise for me"
REALITY: While there were fat, smelly, balding men at MegaCon, none were Rick. And I am not surprised.

TRUTH:[i]I wasn't able to be there, and although a couple friends volunteered to come to meet and greet you ... I talked them out of it. Afterall, who would feed all your little bullshit monkeys? Can you come up for the Pittsburgh Comicon?


3) CLAIM: Rick's "lawyer" was going to get in touch with all those that had wronged Rick.
REALITY: No one has been contacted.

TRUTH:[i] Not time yet, obviously. Civil actions often take as long as a year to put together. 'Course, troll stompin' is easy. So wear your funny hat when you go outside there. With Tornadoes in Arkansas (Hi Sk!) and more snow in the Chicago area (Hi Lance Boucher!) and Buffalo is being sold to Canada... well, yoiu get the picture. A house could fall on your little pointy haed from a hurricane.


4) CLAIM: Rick hadn't been served
REALITY: One trial starts in a few weeks. That's just one I am attending....maybe as a witness.

REALITY: I am a free man, and the Lakeland authorities haven't heard squat from him.

TRUTH:[i]Your 'freedom' remains to be seen. Frankly, I believe that you're slowly being consumed from within. I'd advise you to read THE HOST by Sturgeon. Seriously. Before it is too late.


2) CLAIM: Rick would be at MegaCon, and "had a surprise for me"
REALITY: While there were fat, smelly, balding men at MegaCon, none were Rick. And I am not surprised.

TRUTH:[i]I wasn't able to be there, and although a couple friends volunteered to come to meet and greet you ... I talked them out of it. Afterall, who would feed all your little bullshit monkeys? Can you come up for the Pittsburgh Comicon?


3) CLAIM: Rick's "lawyer" was going to get in touch with all those that had wronged Rick.
REALITY: No one has been contacted.

TRUTH:[i] Gee... I'd rank this right up there with your other several lies. If there's a trial coming up ... nobody here has gotten informed on any level. 'Course that doesn't surprise me. A liar is a liar is a liar.


5) CLAIM: Matthew (moi) said he would lodge a complaint with the NY Attorney General and St Judes Children's Research Hospital regarding Olney's claims of charity-raising.
REALITY: It is as claimed. And Matthew (moi) heard back in letter form from the NY AG. They are looking into it and ask me to forward any additional info I may have.

TRUTH:[i] Yeah, again. We've heard nothing here. No telephone calls, no letters, no late night knocks on the door. Sounds like another figment of your imagination, Mattchew.


6) CLAIM: Rick bathes regularly
REALITY: One ride at a con in the car with the fetid one convinced "Gail Simone" otherwise.

TRUTH:
[i] Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:36:49 -0800 (PST)
From: "Gail Simone" <gail@gailsimone.com> Add to Address Book Add
Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Clarification?
To: "Dennis Kininger" <library_bastard@yahoo.com>, "Gail Simone"
<gailcbr@yahoo.com>



Dennis,

I've said this I don't know HOW many times already, and it's sheer,
pure OLNEY that he didn't tell you I'd already shot this down several
times.

It was NOT you, it was NOT your car...it was RICK. I wouldn't say it
if he hadn't already said disgusting things about me (he said I worked
in porn, and some really vicious things about my appearance...who
cares, right? But that's why I said it) and others, including Scott
Shaw's family, some of the nicest people on Earth.

What it was was that the day of the con, Rick had terrible bo, bad
enough that my husband intentionally would sit next to him so I
wouldn't have to. And the one brief ride we took with Rick, our
clothes came out STINKING. Maybe he was stressed, but several people
mentioned it.

I have repeatedly kept you out of the mega thread at Yabs. No one has
anything bad to say about you, and when Rick tried to say I meant YOU
and not HIM (utter, utter bullcrap), I made it very clear that I meant
Rick. You can see for yourself. I never edit my posts, ever.

For the record, he tried this same thing with Ronee. When I said he
wrote terrible ad copy (which he does, as I'm sure you realize from
the Tightlip page) he went straight to Ronee and told her that I'd
bashed her writing, when she had NOTHING to do with it. I LIKE Ronee's
writing.

I'm not like Rick, Dennis. I'm very forthcoming with my genuine
opinions. I have zero beef with you, and had nothing but nice things
to say about you on that very long thread and everywhere else. I
can't, in fact, think of anyone who has ANYTHING bad to say about you.

The truth is, you have nothing to apologize for with the show. The
things that went wrong, the broken promises, the lies about payment,
that's all Rick's doing and everyone knows that. And please don't
worry about the ride back, we were exhausted too, and happy just to
rest quietly.

I even said on the thread that I enjoyed the trip with you as you
pointed out local sites.

Honest, Dennis, no one has any beef with you, and I'm even more mad at
Rick for trying this embarrassing little displacement stunt. I'd say
it's beneath him, but after reading all the people he's cheated and
lied to (and it's a LOT of people, and a lot more who haven't yet come
forward), I really can't imagine anything beneath the man.

I know he's your friend and you're a good friend for sticking by him,
but the lies and betrayal have got to stop, and I'm hoping this is a
wake-up call for him to make changes or get out of the business for
good. He's hurt too many people.

If you read the thread, you will see I said RICK and RICK's car, not
Dennis at all. When Rick twice tries to blame you, I correct him
FIRMLY twice.

Interjected note:[i]"Gail" is/was mistaken. She blamed me for an odor, and after being told that it wasn't my car...she then send Dennis this reply. It directly contradicts her position in the message thread on the subject matter. I didn't own a car then. I didn't even have a drivers license then either. She and her husband were picked up by Dennis Kininger (and myself) in his car (with him driving) on Friday afternoon at the airport. That next Saturday in question at the close of the event's day -- Dennis drove his car with "Gail" and her husband back to the Syracuse airport area. I rode in the second vehicle (a red jeep) with my nephew.

She continued to say:

I'm sorry, I'm just a little worn-out from his weirdness and threats.

Like I say, you and I have no beef whatsoever and I don't think anyone
else is mad at you, either.

Best wishes,

"Gail" (name quoted by me to denote for pseudonym truthfulness)

Dennis replied to me:

Dennis Kininger <librarybastard@gmail.com>
Feb 2
to Rick Olney <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com>
date Feb 2, 2007 7:23 PM
subject Re: email

(first two paragraphs snipped due to irrelevance to the topic)

However, as I expected, Gail tried her usual tricks of kissing my ass
to get me on her side and everyone else spouted off with asinine
comments or a few supportive ones. And that's mainly why I avoid
message boards...when I have a commment to make, I'll make it and
that's it. If I wanna babble about comics, I'll babble about comics. I
invited Gail to write me if she wished to talk further and I haven't
heard back from her.

> They're happy listening to "Gail" who now
> only comes in to shite-spin it (the thread) more.

Well...bully for her. No, I have no specific problem with her
personally and I'll talk to her if she writes me but I have a degree
of disappointment towards all involved.


> Catalino is really screwed up, because somebody that was a co-admin back
> when the profiles was getting messed with actually DID mess with his
> profile. It wasn't me. I'm betting Tobolski or Boucher, as they both were >co-admin ranked then. Anyway, I valued Catalino's friendship back then far >too much to mess with him. I 'invested' time in my friendship with Sam and >would not have jeopardized it.

He actually called me again on Wednesday night to tease me about
breaking down and posting on that thread. Yeah, I know you didn't mess
with Sam's profile and how well you once got along. A 50+ year old man
acting like a child is a bit much and I really don't care whether he
likes me or not. I thought Sam was better than that.

Note: I left that in because I know my real friends well enough that they know the smell of a skunk. The above depicts Samuel Catalino spot on. It was relevent to his remarks about me in the massive libel thread about me.

[Rick Olney]

Sleep tight, maniacs!:rolleyes:

[Rick Olney]

Rick finally got cable and saw Crocadile Dundee and realizes that Australia is part of the world. It shocked him . ;)

lol Such a dipshite.

[DarrenCawsey]

Hey, I warned you. Your namecalling and further harrassment will be dealt with from the view of maintaining the safety of my family. All this talk of people and getting hauled into court rooms to explain THEIR interest in this matter and justifying THEIR actions will lead to whatever you're looking for. Meanwhile, I have to protect my family from your harrassment and threat.


Being a little busy lately, I decide to skip checking the thread for a couple of days and now look what happens.

In regards to the above, just what "harrassment and threat" has been directed at his family?

None, to my recollection.

There was some speculation as to the legal make-up of TLE, which was then confirmed with Barbara Olney’s name accordingly mentioned. And then subsequently there was some discussion around the legal obligations of Directors/Partners of businesses.

I fail to see how looking up, and then stating, public information available to all and sundry is harassment.


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[JTPencils]

Being a little busy lately, I decide to skip checking the thread for a couple of days and now look what happens.

In regards to the above, just what "harrassment and threat" has been directed at his family?

None, to my recollection.

There was some speculation as to the legal make-up of TLE, which was then confirmed with Barbara Olney’s name accordingly mentioned. And then subsequently there was some discussion around the legal obligations of Directors/Partners of businesses.

I fail to see how looking up, and then stating, public information available to all and sundry is harassment.


---------------------

Wait, for Rick's next trick, he'll "prove" how saying the Pledge of Allegiance is in (his) reality, swearing a blood oath to Satan. And that singing "Happy Birthday" can cause temporary blindness and sweaty palms. For his finale, he'll prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that HE is really the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby. He's got the NDA to prove it!

[Rick Olney]

The only way I am going to court is to watch Olney swing.

At this point, I have no reason to take him to court. I will leave that to the proper authorities. And assist anyone that needs my help with their cases.

I have an idea that you've always looked for men that swing. lol

Far as you going to cort. I'm handling that for you. It'll just take time. Let me know if you want to see the inside of Catalino's house there in Florida. I can even provide the address. You have not lived until you've eyeballed his really cruddy bedroom. It looks like a 12 year old's.

Screw you, Sam.

[Rick Olney]

Wait, for Rick's next trick, he'll "prove" how saying the Pledge of Allegiance is in (his) reality, swearing a blood oath to Satan. And that singing "Happy Birthday" can cause temporary blindness and sweaty palms.

I still have your telephone contact numbers...

[Dreadstar]

I still have your telephone contact numbers...

Yeah, and...?

[WhiteRose]

A long and lengthy post that repeated itself...within itself.

Dennis's email is wrong. In the 'reply' to you.

And fella? You mentioned that we're all banding together on the word of a few pros and are lesser for it, something which you decided to ridicule and insult us for because it 'wasn't our place, had nothing to do with it' or some such. A bit back you said a few of your mates and family came to your defense (also, those who had nothing to do with it) and quickly left because opinions were expressed.

So let me get this straight... the pros can't have friends but you can?

[Rick Olney]

Looking forward to it Danny. Though I WILL say, it might be a bit before I can get to it. Some nice things are developing on this end DUE to Rick being a dolt. So... in some way.. (God I hate to admit it), I may have to be thankful for his shabby ways. It's leading to MUCH better things!

(note to Danny... I think you meant aspersions... not dispersions. I'm only pointing this out, because we DO tend to jump down peanuts throat for misuse of language)

Sailor calling grown men... peanut? Habit you picked up aboard ship, JT?

Hmm....

[Guapo Méndez]

lol Such a dipshite.

Heh. What happened to "Thou shalt not namecall"?

[Rick Olney]

Heh. What happened to "Thou shalt not namecall"?

Do unto others as they have done unto you...

[Matt Doc Martin]

I will scan the letter from the AG tomorrow.

Anything more I can do to prove you are a fucking idiot?

[JTPencils]

I still have your telephone contact numbers...

Now that makes me lose sleep!

[Guapo Méndez]

Dennis's email is wrong. In the 'reply' to you.

And fella? You mentioned that we're all banding together on the word of a few pros and are lesser for it, something which you decided to ridicule and insult us for because it 'wasn't our place, had nothing to do with it' or some such. A bit back you said a few of your mates and family came to your defense (also, those who had nothing to do with it) and quickly left because opinions were expressed.

So let me get this straight... the pros can't have friends but you can?

Gmail account and yahoo account.

Could be two addresses.

[Guapo Méndez]

Do unto others as they have done unto you...

Cool. This means you've lost your "please don't call me names" option.

[JTPencils]

Sailor calling grown men... peanut? Habit you picked up aboard ship, JT?

Hmm....

Nah, the men aboard ship were all honorable types. Nothing like yourself. So only words of respect for them. Though, I will say, at least I can verify that I was a sailor. You really want to go down that road again? An unlanced boil has more impact then you do... so don't even try.

[WhiteRose]

Gmail account and yahoo account.

Could be two addresses.

Ah. Sorry, 'scuse the dyslexia.

[Rick Olney]

Dennis's email is wrong. In the 'reply' to you.

No it isn't.

It is Dennis' email to me after I had informed him of her ("Gail's") remarks about his car smelling as it was HIM that carried her fat ass (and her husband) back to the Syracuse area.

Oh, I'm sorry. Did I insinuate that "Gail's" ass was huge? I'm sorry.

Dennis replied to me:

Dennis Kininger <librarybastard@gmail.com>
Feb 2
to Rick Olney <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com>
date Feb 2, 2007 7:23 PM
subject Re: email

(first two paragraphs snipped due to irrelevance to the topic)

However, as I expected, Gail tried her usual tricks of kissing my ass
to get me on her side and everyone else spouted off with asinine
comments or a few supportive ones. And that's mainly why I avoid
message boards...when I have a commment to make, I'll make it and
that's it. If I wanna babble about comics, I'll babble about comics. I
invited Gail to write me if she wished to talk further and I haven't
heard back from her.

> They're happy listening to "Gail" who now
> only comes in to shite-spin it (the thread) more.

Well...bully for her. No, I have no specific problem with her
personally and I'll talk to her if she writes me but I have a degree
of disappointment towards all involved.


> Catalino is really screwed up, because somebody that was a co-admin back
> when the profiles was getting messed with actually DID mess with his
> profile. It wasn't me. I'm betting Tobolski or Boucher, as they both were >co-admin ranked then. Anyway, I valued Catalino's friendship back then far >too much to mess with him. I 'invested' time in my friendship with Sam and >would not have jeopardized it.

He actually called me again on Wednesday night to tease me about
breaking down and posting on that thread. Yeah, I know you didn't mess
with Sam's profile and how well you once got along. A 50+ year old man
acting like a child is a bit much and I really don't care whether he
likes me or not. I thought Sam was better than that.

Note: I left that in because I know my real friends well enough that they know the smell of a skunk. The above depicts Samuel Catalino spot on. It was relevent to his remarks about me in the massive libel thread about me.

[Rick Olney]

Being a little busy lately, I decide to skip checking the thread for a couple of days and now look what happens.

In regards to the above, just what "harrassment and threat" has been directed at his family?

None, to my recollection.

There was some speculation as to the legal make-up of TLE, which was then confirmed with Barbara Olney’s name accordingly mentioned. And then subsequently there was some discussion around the legal obligations of Directors/Partners of businesses.

I fail to see how looking up, and then stating, public information available to all and sundry is harassment.


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Re-read the thread! And start at Page 1. Don't leave this site tonite until you read the whole thing. Then you know what was said. :D

[DocAbsurd]

Do unto others as they have done unto you...

'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' --Earl Rivers' translation of Socrates, Dictes and Sayenges of the Philosophirs. Also known as the Golden Rule. Y'might wanna check into that.

Oh, thought I'd throw this in:

'The devil can cite scripture for his own purpose.' -- William Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice

[Rick Olney]

Yeah, and...?
And...

Well? And...

[WhiteRose]

No it isn't.

It is Dennis' email to me after I had informed him of her ("Gail's") remarks about his car smelling as it was HIM that carried her fat ass (and her husband) back to the Syracuse area.

Oh, I'm sorry. Did I insinuate that "Gail's" ass was huge? I'm sorry.

Dude, I read the email wrong. Unlike some, I can fess up to my mistakes.

[Matt Doc Martin]

TRUTH:[i]Your 'freedom' remains to be seen. Frankly, I believe that you're slowly being consumed from within. I'd advise you to read THE HOST by Sturgeon. Seriously. Before it is too late.

Yeah. Consumed. By gas. (I had mcDonalds)

TRUTH:[i]I wasn't able to be there, and although a couple friends volunteered to come to meet and greet you ... I talked them out of it. Afterall, who would feed all your little bullshit monkeys? Can you come up for the Pittsburgh Comicon?

Uh-huh. A likely story. You proved yourself a liar, Rick. You were never going. I said you would not go. I was right, You were wrong.

TRUTH:[i] Not time yet, obviously. Civil actions often take as long as a year to put together. 'Course, troll stompin' is easy. So wear your funny hat when you go outside there. With Tornadoes in Arkansas (Hi Sk!) and more snow in the Chicago area (Hi Lance Boucher!) and Buffalo is being sold to Canada... well, yoiu get the picture. A house could fall on your little pointy haed from a hurricane.
Odd..You already had ONE civil action against you resulting in garnishment.
Another begins this week.

How is it others move faster than you? Maybe because....they HAVE ACTUAL CASES?








TRUTH:[i] Gee... I'd rank this right up there with your other several lies. If there's a trial coming up ... nobody here has gotten informed on any level. 'Course that doesn't surprise me. A liar is a liar is a liar.

And you ARE a liar.

TRUTH:[i] Yeah, again. We've heard nothing here. No telephone calls, no letters, no late night knocks on the door. Sounds like another figment of your imagination, Mattchew.

Again, I will scan letter tomorrow. Just to prove that I am telling the truth. Not that I have REASON to lie.

[Rick Olney]

'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' --Earl Rivers' translation of Socrates, Dictes and Sayenges of the Philosophirs. Also known as the Golden Rule. Y'might wanna check into that.

Oh, thought I'd throw this in:

'The devil can cite scripture for his own purpose.' -- William Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice

Riiiight...

[Matt Doc Martin]

And if I post MY letter, will you post your proof? Or send a copy to me? So that I may send it to St Judes?

[Reverend Smooth]

Again, though I've said all this before. Wicca does not, in and of itself, have a concept of Karma. As wicca, as put forth by Gardner, or any other major author or publically accepted authority, wicca operates with the 'threefold law' which is inherrently different than the negative reinforcement idea of Karma, as defined by traditional Hindu Belief.

Thus, this statement is silly, and calls into question your wiccan training. I'd advise you to rethink the whole conversation, and start again.
He might be equating it to the buddhist version as well (some sects of which also believe in a pay it forward kind of way). Wiccan karma (it isn't officially called that, mind you, but laymen etc) is much more immediate, it socks you this lifetime, not the next. XD

[Rick Olney]

Yeah. Consumed. By gas. (I had mcDonalds)

That explains it, Mattchew!

Hanging out at McDonalds to watch them swing, right? lol

Scan and post that letter. If you're not lying it will hardly matter. Because it won't take long to confirm validity and fax the appropriate documentation from my lawyers office along with a complaint letter towards you for the equivilent of malicious persecution along the lines of outright harrassment.

[Dreadstar]

And...

Well? And...
I have to explain it? It means (careful, there's a 5 syllable word coming):

Finish your insinuation.

[Rick Olney]

He might be equating it to the buddhist version as well (some sects of which also believe in a pay it forward kind of way). Wiccan karma (it isn't officially called that, mind you, but laymen etc) is much more immediate, it socks you this lifetime, not the next. XD

Yeah, like you're the all regarding Wiccan theory and practice. :rolleyes: I refuse to talk about my religion here and least of all with you. It is just another area of discrimination.

[JTPencils]

And if I post MY letter, will you post your proof? Or send a copy to me? So that I may send it to St Judes?

Even if you post it... he'll just deny it. He'll rant and rave how it's made up or not legit... and then claim you did it just to embarrass him. Post it anyhow. He won't answer it in any sort of reasonable, truthful fashion... but post it anyhow. Nothing more satisfying then hearing him swallow his tongue from two states away. "Damn, bluff got called again..."

[Rick Olney]

Even if you post it... he'll just deny it. He'll rant and rave how it's made up or not legit... and then claim you did it just to embarrass him. Post it anyhow. He won't answer it in any sort of reasonable, truthful fashion... but post it anyhow. Nothing more satisfying then hearing him swallow his tongue from two states away. "Damn, bluff got called again..."

Hey mouth!

I just answered that. I got your freakin' bluff...

[Rick Olney]

I have to explain it? It means (careful, there's a 5 syllable word coming):

Finish your insinuation.

Get a life.

[Dreadstar]

Damn.

That put me in my place.

I'm mortified.

[JTPencils]

Hey mouth!

I just answered that. I got your freakin' bluff...

Hey moron, I could care less what you think (or think you have).

[Matt Doc Martin]

That explains it, Mattchew!

Hanging out at McDonalds to watch them swing, right? lol

Scan and post that letter. If you're not lying it will hardly matter. Because it won't take long to confirm validity and fax the appropriate documentation from my lawyers office along with a complaint letter towards you for the equivilent of malicious persecution along the lines of outright harrassment.

Asshole.

HOW IS IT MALICIOUS PERSECUTION?

YOU WERE ASKED BY ST JUDES TO PROVIDE PROOF. YOU IGNORED THEM.

I gave you contact info. You ignored me.

I will post the letter. To show that you are talking out your ass when you call me a liar.

Then I will call you a liar re: your threats of charges against me.

Just. Like. Before.

[WhiteRose]

Get a life.

Such witty repartee! If you channeled as much effort into making things right as being a general ass to the people here who just want to see some positive resolution, maybe this whole thing would have been finished with long ago.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yeah, like you're the all regarding Wiccan theory and practice. :rolleyes: I refuse to talk about my religion here and least of all with you. It is just another area of discrimination.

How are you being discriminated against? There are other admitted wiccans here. I have friends that are wiccan. We are all just pointing out that you seem to know fuck all about being a wiccan..what with your ignorance of the rule of 3 and trying to claim Karma AND Christianity as well.

Pick just one religion to not adhere to, if you please.

[Rick Olney]

And if I post MY letter, will you post your proof? Or send a copy to me? So that I may send it to St Judes?

Hey Perry Mason!

How many time do you have to read that I have no intention, nor do I feel the need to justify myself to you or anyone partaking in this thread?

I hardly doubt that you contacted St Judes, but if you did... fine. I have nothing to worry about. I told you that before. I have had no contact from anyone representing (or saying that they're from) St. Judes. I had permission to do what we did back in the year in question. Again, you don't matter. I don't need to justify to you. The fact that you imply that St Jude needs proof ... is an indicator that you merely are trolling. Made the whole thing up, didn't you? You lying deadbeat.

Again, Perry Mason... you do not matter a tinkers damn in this matter.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Damn.

That put me in my place.

I'm mortified.

I was taught by the finish...

JP

[Rick Olney]

How are you being discriminated against? There are other admitted wiccans here. I have friends that are wiccan. We are all just pointing out that you seem to know fuck all about being a wiccan..what with your ignorance of the rule of 3 and trying to claim Karma AND Christianity as well.

Pick just one religion to not adhere to, if you please.

Mattchew, you're such a troll... Karma may bring you back as a toad, if you ain't careful. lol

[SUPERECWFAN1]

lol Such a dipshite.

Ahhhh did I hurt your feelings. By the way....you could learn a lot from wrestling. Because like those young fools who believe they should be instant stars with no work...you fit right in. They want the top card spots and be HUGE.

You'd learn a whole lot by seeing that trying to leap frog to the top with no work and all...doesn't work. Ya gotta pay your dues . Pay your dues Rick.

[DarrenCawsey]

Re-read the thread! And start at Page 1. Don't leave this site tonite until you read the whole thing. Then you know what was said. :D

I actually have read this thread from page 1.

I am quite aware of what has been said regarding you, various peoples unfortunate dealings with you, your own barely literate ramblings and accusations... what I am asking is for actual examples of threats made towards your family.

You may have a hard time scraping some up, as I am certain that there has been none.


And no, musings over whether your wife could be party to any legal proceedings in respect of TLE does not count, because
a) that is not harassment or a threat, and
b) is a perfectly valid question.




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[bert]

Mattchew, you're such a troll... Karma may bring you back as a toad, if you ain't careful. lol

hah. .

thanks for the amusement.

I wish you would simply pay the folks you owe money to...

[Rick Olney]

Such witty repartee! If you channeled as much effort into making things right as being a general ass to the people here who just want to see some positive resolution, maybe this whole thing would have been finished with long ago.

Who is shitting who?

Rose, Nobody here wants or cares about the truth of this matter. Factually, it is far too complicated to even talk about -- even if I could. I have shown instances of lies, and they go unseen by the blind people here who only hate. Haters. You're all haters as Ronee once said.

[Rick Olney]

hah. .

thanks for the amusement.

I wish you would simply pay the folks you owe money to...

All in good time, Bert!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Hey Perry Mason!

How many time do you have to read that I have no intention, nor do I feel the need to justify myself to you or anyone partaking in this thread?

I hardly doubt that you contacted St Judes, but if you did... fine. I have nothing to worry about. I told you that before. I have had no contact from anyone representing (or saying that they're from) St. Judes. I had permission to do what we did back in the year in question. Again, you don't matter. I don't need to justify to you. The fact that you imply that St Jude needs proof ... is an indicator that you merely are trolling. Made the whole thing up, didn't you? You lying deadbeat.

Again, Perry Mason... you do not matter a tinkers damn in this matter.


Look at what you just wrote. You do not doubt I contacted ST judes. This is good.

THEN you say I made it up.

Make up your mind! They requested INFO from you. CONTACT JEN JOY.

Here is her email: <jen.joy@stjude.org>

NOTE THE DESTINATION!

Now, she is the contact person I have dealt with. SHE asked ME if I had any info on it. I sent her a copy of your flyer. I also sent copies of your claims of $500 and holding the auction.

She was NOT able to locate anything wherein you, ORCA, MMC, Barbara Olney or Dennis Kinsinger were given permission to use their name or logo. Also, NO RECORD OF A DONATION MADE in any of those names.


Don't tell me...tell her.

[Rick Olney]

I actually have read this thread from page 1.

I am quite aware of what has been said regarding you, various peoples unfortunate dealings with you, your own barely literate ramblings and accusations... what I am asking is for actual examples of threats made towards your family.

You may have a hard time scraping some up, as I am certain that there has been none.


And no, musings over whether your wife could be party to any legal proceedings in respect of TLE does not count, because
a) that is not harassment or a threat, and
b) is a perfectly valid question.




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I'm simply not at liberty to satisfy your curiosity. Sorry.

[Yonar]

He might be equating it to the buddhist version as well (some sects of which also believe in a pay it forward kind of way). Wiccan karma (it isn't officially called that, mind you, but laymen etc) is much more immediate, it socks you this lifetime, not the next. XD


Funnily enough I said all that a while ago, in one of my original posts, explaining the key differences between the 'Threefold Law' and the Karma concept. I do leave out buddhist karmic beliefs because they are sectarian in nature, and not precisely main line thought in Buddhism. But yeah, you're right, he could be refering to the threefold law, but..

A) He's using the term Karma incorrectly. When I taught wicca, three years ago, I always was a firm believer in the use of proper terminology. While 'karmic return' is an idea which is supported in hinduism, buddhism, and much eastern thought, it is not an inherrantly wiccan belief.

B) Using the term Karma as a cop out for having to avoid explaining the threefold law is a bad ploy. Wiccans, any wiccans, should be well educated enough, due to the one year and a day enforced study time before devotion to the religion, to explain to anyone ANY TERM of their religious beliefs, and defend them in a debate. Again, This was a requirement before I would allow my students to dedicate themselves. It's a requirement in Gardnerian and Wagnerian wicca, and I can only assume in Dianistic as well.

If you want to be a wiccan, fine. But know your religion, know your terms, and never ever hide behind popular terms in an effort to avoid explaining your religious beliefs.

I've studied a lot of religions. I used to be a practicing wiccan, and even held the position of priest in the circle that I participated in. I've taught students, I've led ceremonies, and I've inducted people into the religion. I've been present for a friend of mine (a solitary) at her year and a day, to affirm her devotion to the religion, both as a witness and as a Priest.

I'm not a practicing wiccan now, because I've somewhat grown beyond it in my world view. I'm learning more about Buddhism, and studying that some more. I believe that every man should not only study religions and faith, but himself, and his own faith, so that he can understand fully the way that he influences his own religious nature.


If you believe that we, the participants of this thread, are going to reap negative returns for the negative energy we have invested in it, hell, you're probably right. It's a much better idea to focus our energy away from Rick Olney, and into a productive project for mutual support, such as Unscrewed.

But, that doesn't mean that we can't all be somewhat interested and entertained in his innefectual rantings, and in the procedings which each person is taking with them individuall.

This is a circle of friends, and one I'm happy to be a part of.


LP

[shanejayell]

HI Rick Olney

PAID ANYONE YET?

[Rick Olney]

Hey moron, I could care less what you think (or think you have).

Kiss my ass, JT. You broke your NDA and I'm gonna break it off legally. Guess where?

[Rick Olney]

HI Rick Olney

PAID ANYONE YET?

Your sister.

[Linkara]

Hey Perry Mason!

How many time do you have to read that I have no intention, nor do I feel the need to justify myself to you or anyone partaking in this thread?

I hardly doubt that you contacted St Judes, but if you did... fine. I have nothing to worry about. I told you that before. I have had no contact from anyone representing (or saying that they're from) St. Judes. I had permission to do what we did back in the year in question. Again, you don't matter. I don't need to justify to you. The fact that you imply that St Jude needs proof ... is an indicator that you merely are trolling. Made the whole thing up, didn't you? You lying deadbeat.

Again, Perry Mason... you do not matter a tinkers damn in this matter.

If you feel no need to justify yourself WHY THE HELL ARE YOU HERE?!

[shanejayell]

Your sister.

Oooh, witty.

People did work for you in good faith. You haven't paid. How do you morally justify that?

[Indigo Al]

All in good time, Bert!


Will you pay them? When? Why didn't you pay them before as you agreed to?

[bert]

All in good time, Bert!

but you've been saying that for quite a while now, Mr. Olney.

I'd think that you wouldn't want the bad publicity, and that you would just want this "persecution" (as you view it) to be over.

and for the record, I don't think it's persecution, if someone does work for you, then they deserve payment. From what has been shown, these folks haven't been paid, and have brought thier grievences out in public.

this could all go away immediately if you paid the folks you owe money to.

it seems you've come back into the thread only to try to bump it over the 1,000 pages mark.

and that's just. . . sad

[Rick Olney]

Asshole.

HOW IS IT MALICIOUS PERSECUTION?

YOU WERE ASKED BY ST JUDES TO PROVIDE PROOF. YOU IGNORED THEM.

I gave you contact info. You ignored me.

I will post the letter. To show that you are talking out your ass when you call me a liar.

Then I will call you a liar re: your threats of charges against me.

Just. Like. Before.


Wait. So they wanted to talk to me about information that they should have already on file ... but they sent a letter to you? I got no letter. No telephone calls. St Judes is very specific about what they require and they work closely with those events that they allow useage of their name and materials. Sorry, but I think you're full of bullshit.

[Rick Olney]

but you've been saying that for quite a while now, Mr. Olney.

I'd think that you wouldn't want the bad publicity, and that you would just want this "persecution" (as you view it) to be over.

and for the record, I don't think it's persecution, if someone does work for you, then they deserve payment. From what has been shown, these folks haven't been paid, and have brought thier grievences out in public.

this could all go away immediately if you paid the folks you owe money to.

it seems you've come back into the thread only to try to bump it over the 1,000 pages mark.

and that's just. . . sad



Think what you like, Bert. It is out of my hands! AND -- there is an important facet to much of this that will exonerate and overturn any actions against TightLip Entertainment -- But I'm not at liberty to discuss it.

You'll just have to wait for the pay-per-view. lol

[SUPERECWFAN1]

And ohhh yeah I'd rather be called a Wrestling Fool or Idiot because people know me on CBR as that. Thats my thing. I do Wrestling Reviews and everyone knows me for that. Plus I love Guns n Roses , take walks in the park and enjoy my comics.

Good luck Rick trying to press buttons.

[Rick Olney]

Will you pay them? When? Why didn't you pay them before as you agreed to?

Read the thread, lazy.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Wait. So they wanted to talk to me about information that they should have already on file ... but they sent a letter to you? I got no letter. No telephone calls. St Judes is very specific about what they require and they work closely with those events that they allow useage of their name and materials. Sorry, but I think you're full of bullshit.

So email Jen Joy!

AND THEY DO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION ON FILE, JACKASS!! IF THEY DID why would I send something to the AG? I'd be guilty of perjury if I KNOWINGLY sent false information in.

THAT IS WHY I CHECKED WITH ST JUDES AND ASKED YOU FIRST.

And the letter is an acknowledgment from the NY AG that they received my complaint and are looking into it.

Why can you not understand such a simple thing? It's like talking to a 3 year old.

[THEDOC]

Her popularity is not as 'solid' as you (and she) might believe. But I'm not at liberty to say anything else. I just hope she's had advice of legal counsel regarding her personal attacks towards me directly that, again, go outside the rights and legal definition of personal opinion.

Anyway, on the Benny G. Leal subject -- Benny joined the ORComx APA a number of years ago after joining ORCA to interact with other comic book readers. Remarks attempting to connect me to his other personal interests have been noted and again, fall outside legally acceptable standards of behavior. My side of this will also be making his legal representation aware of what's been stated here and by whom. Mr. Leal's personal life choices are his own. And, unlike the bunch of you... I don't judge outside of proper context. Likewise with the harrassment emails sent to members of my family and the online hack attempts. There is no rush here to get it right the first and last time. Clarity and truth is coming.

I think you fall outside legally acceptable behavior.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

but you've been saying that for quite a while now, Mr. Olney.

I'd think that you wouldn't want the bad publicity, and that you would just want this "persecution" (as you view it) to be over.

and for the record, I don't think it's persecution, if someone does work for you, then they deserve payment. From what has been shown, these folks haven't been paid, and have brought thier grievences out in public.

this could all go away immediately if you paid the folks you owe money to.

it seems you've come back into the thread only to try to bump it over the 1,000 pages mark.

and that's just. . . sad

I think this thread gives him the illusion of control and power. It's the only reason I think he's coming back. There's no other reason I can see him doing this. Especially with everything going on right now...

JP

[Indigo Al]

Read the thread, lazy.

How was the New York Comic Con?

[Rick Olney]

And ohhh yeah I'd rather be called a Wrestling Fool or Idiot because people know me on CBR as that. Thats my thing. I do Wrestling Reviews and everyone knows me for that. Plus I love Guns n Roses , take walks in the park and enjoy my comics.

Good luck Rick trying to press buttons.

Well... I tried. Listen, if you EVER want to wrestle... give Matchew a jingle. He likes to watch people (mostly men) 'swing'. You can swing him around the ring a time or two. ;)

[Matt Doc Martin]

Read the thread, lazy.

I will save you the trouble, Al.

Rick will never willingly pay. That is why people are suing him.

[shanejayell]

Or terminal stupidity, considering the lawsuits.

[Rick Olney]

If you feel no need to justify yourself WHY THE HELL ARE YOU HERE?!

Why... to join in on all the fun!!! :rolleyes:

[Crowley]

Wait. So they wanted to talk to me about information that they should have already on file ... but they sent a letter to you? I got no letter. No telephone calls. St Judes is very specific about what they require and they work closely with those events that they allow useage of their name and materials. Sorry, but I think you're full of bullshit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/Jabba.png
"Jabba not guilty! Kooolah musa aspa! EEEN DEEEE AAyaaa!"

[Rick Olney]

Or terminal stupidity, considering the lawsuits.

Easy... no tip for your sister next time around. :p

[THEDOC]

Get a lawyer, Matt! Outside of the TOTS and first tier talent ... you're first to go under the legal knife. Your actions and words have proven that you deserve the utmost attention. Slander and libel, threats and harrassment.

Besides, any smart person always kew that I'd be back here in good time. I'm just happy that so many of you have 'found' each other. Makes cleaning this mess up legally easier.

Calling Dr Howard, Dr. Fine Dr Olney!l

[Matt Doc Martin]

Well... I tried. Listen, if you EVER want to wrestle... give Matchew a jingle. He likes to watch people (mostly men) 'swing'. You can swing him around the ring a time or two. ;)

Wow. That is a reach even for your lousy insults.

Bravo, dipshit.

[Rick Olney]

Calling Dr Howard, Dr. Fine Dr Olney!l

Hey Boucher! Do you want to see inside pics of Samuel Catalino's house? He's got a bedroom that will make you shudder from excitement, seeing as you're prone to fandom envy.

[Rick Olney]

Wow. That is a reach even for your lousy insults.

Bravo, dipshit.

Coming from you that is another insult. Back under the bridge, troll boy. lol

[Matt Doc Martin]

Hey Boucher! Do you want to see inside pics of Samuel Catalino's house? He's got a bedroom that will make you shudder from excitement, seeing as you're prone to fandom envy.

Again...just how creepy IS it that you would take pictures of all the rooms in someone's house?

Has anyone else ever gone into a friend's or strangers house and started snapping shots of everything?

Did you get weird looks?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Coming from you that is another insult. Back under the bridge, troll boy. lol

I intend it to be an insult, moron.

Glad SOMETHING got through that unused mass in your frontal lobe.

[JTPencils]

Kiss my ass, JT. You broke your NDA and I'm gonna break it off legally. Guess where?

Hmmmmmmmm.... now who's threatening physical rebuttals? Your imaginary lawyer would LOVE to see you doing that!! (is it just me, or is this not the third overtly gay overture that Rick's made towards me tonite? Maybe that secret side of him is finally, coming out?)

Ever notice how when one starts to get the upper hand verbally (or in this case, the written form)... dimwit starts to denegrate into threats once again? True to form, the threats are a flying from "the new Rick"... looking alot like "the old Rick". (and not for the first time either)

I have yet to stoop to such a tactic... mostly because A) he's not worth it and B) frankly, I wouldn't want to be in that close of a physical proximity to him to do anything.

As to breaking the NDA... once again, you claim it, but you can't explain HOW. Unless you mean that your NDA covers "not talking about what a scumbag, lying, non paying" twit you are. Then you're right... I broke it wide open... like lot's of others. Since they didn't seem to mind... neither do I. If you mean breaking the NDA in any other fashion... again... HOW. You can't say can you?? (or you refuse to, because it would all be a lie... or just mindless rambling). You'll probably fall back on "I'm not at liberty to say". Well, if you can't back it up, don't bring it up. Because in the end, it's probably BS.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well... I tried. Listen, if you EVER want to wrestle... give Matchew a jingle. He likes to watch people (mostly men) 'swing'. You can swing him around the ring a time or two. ;)

Yeah your knowlodge of the wrestling business astounds me . I mean what era did you last watch in ? Odds are your living fantasies you have if thats what you feel when you watch wrestling now.

[THEDOC]

Hopefully I'm not breaking any rules, but I found out this morning that yet another person had his account locked from the MMC forums. Apparently he wasn't showing enough support.

Those tumbleweeds must be mighty lonely up the MMC-way.




Doc 'Ghost Town' Absurd

So who is left over there ????

[Rick Olney]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/Jabba.png
"Jabba not guilty! Kooolah musa aspa! EEEN DEEEE AAyaaa!"

That's hilarious, Crowley! Ain't it great to reach the height of your creativity in life!?

Well have to talk to "Gail Simone's" STAR WARS contact and get that imagined bastard to create an action figure after you. I think I'll try and come up with an idea or two!

Where the feck you been?

Luke using a little a little rear action force on you?

[Dreadstar]

Hmmmmmmmm.... now who's threatening physical rebuttals?

I wouldn't worry, he's a pussy.

[Gail Simone]

No, actually the way it happened has no reason to change. It is factual. And I am no longer in possession of your many emails. My attorney has them so I can't comment on what you've typed here.

Why would I offer to pay your husband's way? Did I offer also to pay for the babysitter? Newspaper delivery person? Milkman? Why would we have offered to pay for your husband. Does he have a talent beyond putting up with you?

You also lied about the matter of Dennis' car and how you got to Syracuse. I suspect you have lied plenty and certainly our indication here is that not everyone 'buys' your spewed crap rationalizations. People are smarter than you give them credit for. We don't all read your comic books.



Aside from the fact that I have a dozen letters from you kissing my ass, and then even MORE after the con begging me to come to your next shitty (and cancelled) event, I don't really care what a talentless idiot who writes crappy Mary Sue stories thinks about my work, Rick. Honestly, I can't even express how little your opinion means to me.

But you just fucked yourself. You've twice on this thread claimed you paid my husband's way.

People ARE smart. I'm not so sure that you count as 'people,' however.

And thanks for proving once again in black and white that you're not only a liar, you're a bit of a moron who can't keep his lies STRAIGHT.

:)

Gail

[DarrenCawsey]

HI Rick Olney

PAID ANYONE YET?


Your sister.


Oh so his sister is a prostitute, well isn't that just the height of wit.


It certainly is a pity that some people resort to attacking family members isn't it?.



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[Matt Doc Martin]

Hmmmmmmmm.... now who's threatening physical rebuttals? Your imaginary lawyer would LOVE to see you doing that!! (is it just me, or is this not the third overtly gay overture that Rick's made towards me tonite? Maybe that secret side of him is finally, coming out?)

Ever notice how when one starts to get the upper hand verbally (or in this case, the written form)... dimwit starts to denegrate into threats once again? True to form, the threats are a flying from "the new Rick"... looking alot like "the old Rick". (and not for the first time either)

I have yet to stoop to such a tactic... mostly because A) he's not worth it and B) frankly, I wouldn't want to be in that close of a physical proximity to him to do anything.

As to breaking the NDA... once again, you claim it, but you can't explain HOW. Unless you mean that your NDA covers "not talking about what a scumbag, lying, non paying" twit you are. Then you're right... I broke it wide open... like lot's of others. Since they didn't seem to mind... neither do I. If you mean breaking the NDA in any other fashion... again... HOW. You can't say can you?? (or you refuse to, because it would all be a lie... or just mindless rambling). You'll probably fall back on "I'm not at liberty to say". Well, if you can't back it up, don't bring it up. Because in the end, it's probably BS.


If you let him in your house...make sure you close your underwear drawer.

Just sayin'

[Howler]

Yeah, like you're the all regarding Wiccan theory and practice. :rolleyes: I refuse to talk about my religion here and least of all with you. It is just another area of discrimination.

I've been a wiccan for almost 26 years, how long have you been?

If you're wiccan, why have you claimed otherwise numerous other times elsewhere? As an example, stating, "We're taught to turn the other cheek to some extent, and I do try to be a decent Christian"? on another website?

I, Reverend Smooth and other wiccans have posted numerous times here about our religion. I've seen no discrimination against us. Your lack of knowledge in even the most basic ways of wicca makes it clear to anyone you aren't wiccan. I'd laugh about it if I didn't know true discrimination against my beliefs and hate when I run across a poser like you.

[Rick Olney]

I wouldn't worry, he's a pussy.

Yeah, but not yours. Although I'll gladly meet you at Pittsburgh this spring. We can dance out in the parking lot after dark if you can keep your mouth shut.

[OzBat!]

Damn.

That put me in my place.

I'm mortified.You can share my koalas if you like.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh so his sister is a prostitute, well isn't that just the height of wit.


It certainly is a pity that some people resort to attacking family members isn't it?.



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I'd love to bring up some stuff, but I promised to be nice to those less fortunate.

[Rick Olney]

I will save you the trouble, Al.

Rick will never willingly pay. That is why people are suing him.

Guarantee you that you'll pay me before I'll need to pay anyone else, Mattchew.

[Crowley]

That's hilarious, Crowley! Ain't it great to reach the height of your creativity in life!?

Well have to talk to "Gail Simone's" STAR WARS contact and get that imagined bastard to create an action figure after you. I think I'll try and come up with an idea or two!

Where the feck you been?

Luke using a little a little rear action force on you?
I can always top myself and five you a new nickname clown:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/DODO.gif

[Reverend Smooth]

Yeah, like you're the all regarding Wiccan theory and practice. :rolleyes: I'm thoroughly educated about my religion. I am not, say, the pope, but I had long training and good mentors, many of whom were lineaged. I studied for almost a decade before getting my third degree, and I am legally-ordained clergy.

Yes, I actually do know more about wicca than you, and I actually do know what I'm talking about. I know that galls you, but the remedy is simply to learn more.

Pick up some Gardner sometime. He only created the religion, what would he know. Valiente and the Farrars might help, too, since they helped flesh it out.

You can even read some of it on the internets, so it's not that tough to find.

When you've read all that, go find yourself a mentor. Learn some humility and respect for your elders, and study for as long as they find it suitable before you're worth initiating as a first degree.

Maybe, when you've actually deeply studied and internalised wicca, have been trained by people who are actually knowledgeable about it, you'll find that you regret your words and actions and truly live according to Wicca's tenets.

You say you're wiccan? Act like one. Use this as an opportunity to deepen your faith and truly offer your respect to the gods whose religion you profess to follow.

And hint: That also includes renouncing Christianity.
I refuse to talk about my religion here and least of all with you.You don't want to talk about it because you are wrong. Everybody here knows that you're wrong. And you don't want this pointed out.
It is just another area of discrimination.Since you're not Wiccan, it's ok. You can't be discriminated against for being one.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Guarantee you that you'll pay me before I'll need to pay anyone else, Mattchew.

Uh-huh.

Good luck with that.

[Rick Olney]

I can always top myself and five you a new nickname clown:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/DODO.gif

Again, such talent. Imagine all the Interstate bathroom contracts for decoration on stall walls and doors that you could get....

You're really talented.

[THEDOC]

You know, I'm going to really enjoy legally and finally slapping the 'taste' out of your mouth, Martin. You'll be lucky if you have a pot to piss in when my legal team is done with you. :rolleyes:

This guy cracks me up and no cover charge.. Rick, still waiting for your expose' on the various Small Press Groups like SPA and IF??? And that comment you made about my wife and I.

[neko onna]

None of his NDA threats hold up as HE broke his own contract by not paying...Any of the "breaking the NDA" garbage came LONG after he broke the contract himself. Not that an NDA will hold up for not paying...it has nothing to do with that.

[Rick Olney]

Uh-huh.

Good luck with that.
Well... there's always your Veteran's benefits.

[Danny Donovan]

Again...just how creepy IS it that you would take pictures of all the rooms in someone's house?

Has anyone else ever gone into a friend's or strangers house and started snapping shots of everything?

Did you get weird looks?

Actually I don't think that's all that weird. I know there are people who have stopped by my house and while during their visit snap a few pictures, because I have some rather interesting things I've accumulated over the years, and my travels.

I mean it's very rare you come across roman-esque collums decked in christmas lights. :p

Also, I want to know why it should be so "shameful" that Sam has an impressive collection of memoribilia-etc. Especially from a so-called long-time fan of comics who has a wide collection of things himself?

Lord knows I deck my home office out in toys, chachkis (or however the blue hell that's spelled) original art, etc.

So saying that I don't find it weird someone has taken photos of a place they've visited/stayed over the course of a vacation weekend or whathaveyou, but to ask everyone if they'd like to see said photos, implying there is some shame about collecting things that bring you happiness, is a little odd.

[Yonar]

I'm thoroughly educated about my religion. I am not, say, the pope, but I had long training and good mentors, many of whom were lineaged. I studied for almost a decade before getting my third degree, and I am legally-ordained clergy.

Yes, I actually do know more about wicca than you, and I actually do know what I'm talking about. I know that galls you, but the remedy is simply to learn more.

Pick up some Gardner sometime. He only created the religion, what would he know. Valiente and the Farrars might help, too, since they helped flesh it out.

You can even read some of it on the internets, so it's not that tough to find.

When you've read all that, go find yourself a mentor. Learn some humility and respect for your elders, and study for as long as they find it suitable before you're worth initiating as a first degree.

Maybe, when you've actually deeply studied and internalised wicca, have been trained by people who are actually knowledgeable about it, you'll find that you regret your words and actions and truly live according to Wicca's tenets.

You say you're wiccan? Act like one. Use this as an opportunity to deepen your faith and truly offer your respect to the gods whose religion you profess to follow.
You don't want to talk about it because you are wrong. Everybody here knows that you're wrong. And you don't want this pointed out.
Since you're not Wiccan, it's ok. You can't be discriminated against for being one.


You know, at this point, I'd settle for him reading some Silver Raven Wolf. At least then he'd know the words, right?

And isn't it odd that he responded to what was a comment to me, about how he refused to talk about religion with you?

That's an interesting misdirection.

LP

[Rick Olney]

None of his NDA threats hold up as HE broke his own contract by not paying...Any of the "breaking the NDA" garbage came LONG after he broke the contract himself. Not that an NDA will hold up for not paying...it has nothing to do with that.

You're wrong! But there are still people that think the earth is flat. Or,... was that you?

[THEDOC]

Bev,
You're quickly moving up the list, despite my need to explain that your use of 'peanut' to people is not due to nature of generally being a word of endearment.
:D

peanut or nutcase same difference.

[Crowley]

Again, such talent. Imagine all the Interstate bathroom contracts for decoration on stall walls and doors that you could get....

You're really talented.

Oh I know!

But just think... all those sharpie marker scrawls above urinals... they have three things in common...

1. they didn't cheat anyone out of money.
2. they were completed.
3. they smell better than you.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Well... there's always your Veteran's benefits.

The ones I don't use?

I was in the service for all of 8 years, including 6 inactive.

I am not sure I am getting a whole lot from them.

But feel free.

maybe then I will get your lawyers name?

[Rick Olney]

You know, at this point, I'd settle for him reading some Silver Raven Wolf. At least then he'd know the words, right?

And isn't it odd that he responded to what was a comment to me, about how he refused to talk about religion with you?

That's an interesting misdirection.

LP

Read it. You sent me a copy of issue #1 & #2, remember?

[Gail Simone]

Yeah, but not yours. Although I'll gladly meet you at Pittsburgh this spring. We can dance out in the parking lot after dark if you can keep your mouth shut.

If you don't have ten heart attacks trying to avoid paying your cab fare.

Gail

[Guapo Méndez]

Hey Perry Mason!

How many time do you have to read that I have no intention, nor do I feel the need to justify myself to you or anyone partaking in this thread?



Then what the hell are you doing here?

[Rick Olney]

The ones I don't use?

I was in the service for all of 8 years, including 6 inactive.

I am not sure I am getting a whole lot from them.

But feel free.

maybe then I will get your lawyers name?

Yeah, maybe. I can leave it in your shirt pocker if you come to Pittsburgh. You know, out in the parking lot after this old fart hands you your hat. lol

So 8 years total. 6 on inactive duty?

My math comes up with 2 years active, correct?

[Yonar]

Read it. You sent me a copy of issue #1 & #2, remember?

SRW is the author of a great many wiccan books, most popular amongst teenage girls and solitary practitioners of the 'white light' variety.

Every wiccan who has walked through a bookstore knows her name.

Thanks for playing.

LP

[Gail Simone]

"Dennis Kininger" <*******_bastard@yahoo.com> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re:
To: "Gail Simone"

*Hi Gail,

My apologies for the delay in getting back to you with
a reply. I took a couple vacation days at work and my
library is closed on weekends in the summer. I popped
by over the weekend to visit the ORCA site and check a
little e-mail and let other messages slip.

--- Gail Simone <gail@gailsimone.com> wrote:
> Well, he still hasn't contacted me, following a
> really
> disturbing and disappointing pattern. As an officer
> of
> Orca, Dennis, I'd like you to speak with him one
> more
> time, please, in an attempt to settle this.

*I will see him this weekend and I've been informed
that things will be resolved with you by the end of
this month. I'm very sorry all this has gone on. I
will get the full story from him when I see him and
let you know how things are.

>
> He has broken more promises than I can remember, and
> has failed repeatedly to respond to my emails. I am
> fed up with him at this point. I absolutely resent
> that he's planning another event when he has utterly
> failed to live up to his promises on this one, and
> been extremely deceptive and now, non-responsive.
>
> He may indeed have family matters--my mother was
> going
> through cancer surgery during this time and I didn't
> need this extra stress, either. And I note it hasn't
> stopped him from going on the message boards posting
> cheerily.
>
> This reflects terribly on the mini-con and Orca, and
> I
> find it hard to imagine the professional community
> responding well to Orca if this is how they handle
> their promises.

*I totally agree with you.

>
> I hate to unload this on you,

*That's quite alright. If there's a problem, I
definitely want to know about it.

but obviously, Rick is
> dodging me, and as an officer of Orca, I'm taking a
> last shot that you'll be able to bring this matter
> to
> the close that was actually promised to me BEFORE
> the
> convention.
>
> I have been extremely patient and am STILL willing
> to
> work out a payment plan for the money I paid out of
> my
> own pocket at Rick's request. But someone needs to
> respond honestly, and immediately.

*Well, I only hope things are settled by the end of
the month. You're not the first person to have money
woes with Rick.

[JTPencils]

If you let him in your house...make sure you close your underwear drawer.

Just sayin'

Two chances of that event ever happening... slim and none... and slims' not looking to good.

But I appreciate the forewarning.

[Reverend Smooth]

You know, at this point, I'd settle for him reading some Silver Raven Wolf. At least then he'd know the words, right?No, no silver ravenwolf. Bad. She's created too many posers as it is.

Her stuff is ok if you want to call yourself 'neo-pagan', though. It's just not Wicca.

And isn't it odd that he responded to what was a comment to me, about how he refused to talk about religion with you?

That's an interesting misdirection.

LPYeah, but our ninja skills are better.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

No, I don't need the help. But, unlike you, I actually have friends who are willing to speak up for me. And the talented J. Morgan Neal is one of them.

And oh, by the way, he's also managed to get a comic book into print (and a darned good one too!). Can you say that, Mr. Olney? Hmmm, not the last time I checked!

Thank you for the kind words, Sarah. It is my pleasure to be your friend and I will always have your back. Though honestly R.O. has really made a mistake picking fights with you and several of the others here. He is like a one legged man in an ass-kicking contest.

And speaking of talent, Sarah Beach has more of it in her little finger than R.O has in his whole body. And thats not even talking about the brains.

[Rick Olney]

Then what the hell are you doing here?

Read the thread. I'm under contract to not only be an asshole. I'm supposed to be a real annoying one. The type that sits within your mind after
you've left the online world and drifted off to sleep.

Get a life, man. It is soooo short.

[DaveRothe]

Sadly Rick reminds me of a child who gets no attention but acts out to be scolded. After all negative attention is better than no attention. Right, Rick? If everyone ignores him he'll have nothing left to thrive on and hopefully just go away. His day is coming in court.

[bert]

http://www.callus.com/separatedatbirth/ronjeremy.jpg
"I am the biggest dick on these boards"










,

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yeah, maybe. I can leave it in your shirt pocker if you come to Pittsburgh. You know, out in the parking lot after this old fart hands you your hat. lol

So 8 years total. 6 on inactive duty?

My math comes up with 2 years active, correct?

ANOTHER THREAT!


COOL!

And yes. 2 years active. That is a standard Guard duty time. I could have gone 6 active and 2 inactive, but chose a shorter active time. I also have honorable discharges...so I guess I am a super-patriot too.

[Rick Olney]

Sadly Rick reminds me of a child who gets no attention but acts out to be scolded. After all negative attention is better than no attention. Right, Rick? If everyone ignores him he'll have nothing left to thrive on and hopefully just go away. His day is coming in court.

You're touting that you're owed monies for a logo that went unapproved and unused and you have the demeanor to critique me? Rothe, you're just another moaner...

[Gail Simone]

I love that he's too stupid to realize he just admitted he lied in black and white about paying my husband's way.

What an idiot.

You're a laughingstock, Rick. The butt of continuous jokes in your own state.

Hilarious.

Gail

[Puma]

Read the thread. I'm under contract to not only be an asshole. I'm supposed to be a real annoying one. The type that sits within your mind after
you've left the online world and drifted off to sleep.

Get a life, man. It is soooo short.

you flatter yourself; the majority of people on this thread give you no thought at all once they've clicked away. You're nothing but that gooey blob on the sidewalk people pass over and forget about as they get on with their lives.

[DarrenCawsey]

Actually, your family life was in trouble far sooner than you let on. Far as you taking whatever steps ... be prepared for whatever comes full circle. I have no recall of calling you (as you state) a "stupid bitch" again.. this most likely is a lie. I've steered claer of you until this all plays out legally where YOU'RE concerned. You're not legally owed a dime. No contract without an NDA. You failed to return either before playing the act of being a victim. You have children to care for. I doubt that you'd hold up to anyone looking into your background. Be forewarned...blackmail is a crime.

And I'm telling you that your boat has a hole in it. So all the worms that you claim to have in the whole world isn't going to get you satisfaction. You don't need to be scared of me. Your, "I did work, you accepted it, you owe me. Period." schtick is lame unless you realize that without a contract ... you were simply helping out, and I have proof of that. You don't have a legal leg to stand on beyond crying and moaning the blues.


Oh.

My.

God.




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[Dreadstar]

OK, Rick's now into the internet tough guy mode, I guess. You sure you want to posture thusly?

[Rick Olney]

I love that he's too stupid to realize he just admitted he lied in black and white about paying my husband's way.

What an idiot.

You're a laughingstock, Rick. The butt of continuous jokes in your own state.

Hilarious.

Gail

"Gail" ... when you leave Oregon to attend a convention out of state -- Oregon's sea level goes down 16 inches. Go figure, right?

Token.

[Linkara]

I love that he's too stupid to realize he just admitted he lied in black and white about paying my husband's way.

What an idiot.

You're a laughingstock, Rick. The butt of continuous jokes in your own state.

Hilarious.

Gail

What I love is that I'm sure after tonight, we'll have 1000 pages of making fun of him. ^_^

Ooh! Gail, tell us some more about how you talked to other creators about how much of an asshole he is!

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

How DARE you call talented people who are working in the profession (and it is a profession, not a goddamn hobby) that you so actively aspire to be a part of the sorts of things yo

How DARE you assume the right of the morally indiginant, then make veiled comments about a talented young woman using her "influence" to cozy up to a person she holds in high esteem for her own benifit? I know Sarah's already been "avenged" I'm coming to the party late, but it pisses me off more than anything else in this world.

Call comics a "hobby" fine. whatever. Make snippy remarks about people's talents who have years of work under their belts (like Gail and Tony, etc) that's petty, but expected. But to use the terms "ho" and "bitch" and make allusions that a woman cannot have a platonic relationship with a male colleague without trying to parlay that into something more insidious, that just makes me see red.

I know. I'm old scool. I just cannot abide by those who refuse to treat women with respect or view them as "inferior". I'm personally annoyed at anyone not being treated with respect (WHEN THEY EARN IT) But the sexist attitude that comes off of certain people just gets my ire up.

Like we haven't come along as a society to put that archaic thinking behind us? "Oh noes she's got boobies she must not be as talented or smart as me."



Danny, I feel exactly the same as you do. It is aggravating as hell. But never forget that the type who hold these views usually do so because they KNOW they don't measure up to intelligent, talented, capable and powerful women. And that scares them to death.

[d newton]

Here's his lawyer:
http://jerome.galica.free.fr/dc%20comics/divers/Manhunter%207.GIF.
:D

[Yonar]

No, no silver ravenwolf. Bad. She's created too many posers as it is.

Her stuff is ok if you want to call yourself 'neo-pagan', though. It's just not Wicca.

Yeah, but our ninja skills are better.

Heh. You know, fourteen years ago, when my sister gave me her copy of 'Buckies Big Blue Book' I was hooked. I've read about everyone but SRW over the years. I still think Gardner was a bit too hung up on the ritual, and not on the faith, but it's a stylistic difference I think.

I was never legally ordained, interestingly, but after 14 years of wiccan and religious studies, I do so love intelligent discourse about religions, and it's nice to meet other wiccans and religious people who take their faith seriously, and don't use it as a scapegoat for their actions.

Go, Alternative Thought, and Greater Faith Awareness!

[THEDOC]

Well... I tried. Listen, if you EVER want to wrestle... give Matchew a jingle. He likes to watch people (mostly men) 'swing'. You can swing him around the ring a time or two. ;)

Rick you are such a homophobe (besides racist and sexist) it's unbelieveable. Your a blight to comics in general and Fandom in particular. Thank gosh Jerry B and others are not here to see what you have wrought on us.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Luke using a little a little rear action force on you?

It would appear you've seriously got some issues regarding homosexuality, given the pattern of your insults and jokes.

Anything you'd like to confess, Rick?

[Matt Doc Martin]

"Gail" ... when you leave Oregon to attend a convention out of state -- Oregon's sea level goes down 16 inches. Go figure, right?

Token.

Seriously...we are not allowed to attack him or his family's weight issues?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

you flatter yourself; the majority of people on this thread give you no thought at all once they've clicked away. You're nothing but that gooey blob on the sidewalk people pass over and forget about as they get on with their lives.

Actually when I leave I do laugh some over this. Its not right but having an entire world come in and comment on it and barely 1 supporter for the opposed would make ya laugh.


By the way Rick....I just did a WWE RAW Review on TV/Film Board. Which I do most weeks. :p

[Linkara]

Here's his lawyer:
http://jerome.galica.free.fr/dc%20comics/divers/Manhunter%207.GIF.
:D

You know, I dislike Manhunter, but there's no chance in hell she'd defend Olney. ^_~

[Gail Simone]

Read the thread. I'm under contract to not only be an asshole. I'm supposed to be a real annoying one. The type that sits within your mind after
you've left the online world and drifted off to sleep.

Get a life, man. It is soooo short.

Could you please get a Guatemalen immigrant child to help you with your English?

I know you think you sound smart, but holy SHIT, Rick. You don't understand how to write or what words mean. Can you at least take a moment to edit out the baffling non-grammar?

Gail

[Rick Olney]

you flatter yourself; the majority of people on this thread give you no thought at all once they've clicked away. You're nothing but that gooey blob on the sidewalk people pass over and forget about as they get on with their lives.

Keep your sexual fantasy out of this discussion. :rolleyes:

[DarrenCawsey]

We also have YOUR claims of her doing the work, YOUR CLAIMS of owing her money, YOUR CLAIMS of how she could get said money, and YOUR CLAIMS of taking offer away.


Absofragginglutely.


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[Guapo Méndez]

Read the thread. I'm under contract to not only be an asshole. I'm supposed to be a real annoying one. The type that sits within your mind after
you've left the online world and drifted off to sleep.

Get a life, man. It is soooo short.

Chúpame un huevo, pelaná.

:)

[Linkara]

Seriously...we are not allowed to attack him or his family's weight issues?

Again, we're better than him... and ESPECIALLY not his family.

[Rick Olney]

Could you please get a Guatemalen immigrant child to help you with your English?

I know you think you sound smart, but holy SHIT, Rick. You don't understand how to write or what words mean. Can you at least take a moment to edit out the baffling non-grammar?

Gail

Sure "Gail" ... any chances you plan on getting up from sitting on Guatemala?

[Blake Petit]

Seriously...we are not allowed to attack him or his family's weight issues?

You're better than that, Matt.

There's plenty of other material here. More with every page.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Oh so his sister is a prostitute, well isn't that just the height of wit.


It certainly is a pity that some people resort to attacking family members isn't it?.


It's the sort of thing usually perpetrated only by folk like Olney or iwarrior, which should be good enough reason why nobody else would want to engage in such behavior.

[WhiteRose]

Keep your sexual fantasy out of this discussion. :rolleyes:

Wait...what?

Weren't you the one just going on about meeting men in carparks? Your arguments are flawed and illogical and are hurting my head.

[Indigo Al]

Keep your sexual fantasy out of this discussion. :rolleyes:

Will you pay the people you owe money to? How will your "lawyers" be paid?

[Matt Doc Martin]

He grows more immature every post.

He really is mentally unstable.


And I am talking ABOUT RICK OLNEY!

[THEDOC]

Keep your sexual fantasy out of this discussion. :rolleyes:

And he keeps going and going. Gosh Rick, your depravity knows no bounds does it.

[Rick Olney]

You're better than that, Matt.

There's plenty of other material here. More with every page.

Have fun with it all. Again, I have no control over what people supportive of my position on these legal matters care to do on their own time. I believe in right and wrong. If Mattchew feels that he has to insult my family instead of me then he's lost his edge, and most likely has been insulting and harrassing my family members right along. Right, troll boy?

[Gail Simone]

What I love is that I'm sure after tonight, we'll have 1000 pages of making fun of him. ^_^

Ooh! Gail, tell us some more about how you talked to other creators about how much of an asshole he is!

Heh.

Honestly, they were coming up to ME to make fun of him. It was a riot.

Readers too...

It wasn't that anyone was TRYING to spread the word, people would ask if I had been to New York before, and I'd say only for a shitty fake convention, and they all instantly knew who I was talking about. The next response was always, "oh, yeah, THAT idiot!" followed by people asking if he'd ever paid any of the people he's cheated.

But several times I walked in on people already laughing about him.

Gail