View Full Version : Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 02:37 PM
And yet more insults from the twit. He really IS a one trick pony, isn't he?
~Bev
And not a very good trick
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 02:37 PM
That'd take a lot of lawyers.
Been peekin'?:rolleyes: Make sure that ain't "Gail"...
Kurt Busiek
02-26-2007, 02:37 PM
I was talking about Gail and her husband and your claims taht you never were going to pay.
That's between him and Ronee, Matt. What's wrong with you?
kdb
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 02:38 PM
You twit. She TOLD you to send her the fucking papers to sign. YOU chose not to. Again with the lies and bullshit.
~Bev
I was following instructions from someone that knew more of this matter than you, Matt the Troll, or anyone else. That's all I have to say about Ronee.
So you DO admit that she tried to do things your way and you fucked her over AGAIN?
~Bev
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 02:38 PM
And not a very good trick
Matt,
Bev sounds partial to ponies. Hook her up, wouldja?
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 02:38 PM
They do when you're forwarding them to your imaginary lawyer, "Del."
kdb
Bwahahahahaha
Seriously, if you delete them on your end, they vanish everywhere.
That's how technology works!
Right?
Uh...right?
Larry Dixon
02-26-2007, 02:39 PM
...FORMALLY investigated!
Somewhere, an imaginary attorney in a perfect black tuxedo, cummerbund and bowtie types "Tom Stilwell" into Google.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 02:39 PM
Matt,
Bev sounds partial to ponies. Hook her up, wouldja?
Sounds like you heard about my cock.
Thank you!
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
DocAbsurd
02-26-2007, 02:39 PM
Bev,
Again, I'm liquored up and feel confident that my ass is covered.
There, fixed that for you. Explains a lot, really.
Doc 'Three Fingers' Absurd
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 02:39 PM
You have seen his command of English. DO you think his command of technology is any better?His command of net etiquette isn't. Standard rules make him the troll while he's here.
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 02:40 PM
Does anyone else picture Matt Doc Martin as Tom Cruise in a Few Good Men , screaming at Olney as Jack Nicholson on the stand ? Because I'm picturing that right now.
Matt Doc Martin (Tom Cruise) : " I WANT THE TRUTH !! "
Olney ( Jack Nicholson : " You can't HANDLE THE TRUTH ! "
JeffreyWKramer
02-26-2007, 02:40 PM
It doesn't involve you. :
You keep saying this kind of bullshit, but that don't make it so.
When people in the comics industry act like douchebags to other people in the industry, that impacts those people, and thus the industry. That makes such douchebaggery the business of those that care about the industry.
Beyond that, there's the simple fact that civil society doesn't tolerate dishonesty and crooked behavior.
Lies and a desire for secrecy are not the province of an honest man.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 02:41 PM
So you DO admit that she tried to do things your way and you fucked her over AGAIN?
~Bev
I answered that. I even told her that and ALL she had to do was follow through and she was so thrilled to have all the attention here ... she just holds back and moans about it. Now she can wait. Or take any action (paid by Mark Waid, I hope) that she deems possible. I also have 'worms' to use in fishing. I don't listen to threats. I won't be blackmailed in any respect. End of RGB topic discussion.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 02:41 PM
1.
Repeating something that is a lie, does not make it true.
2.
So far Gail did back up all of her claims.
You, Sir, did not offer anything beyond vague threats, excuses and insults.
*Tweaks his nose*
Hence why this thread exists.
They are smarter than you give them credit for.
No, they're just a tighter knit community that follows blindly taking everything fed as the straight up truth in a matter played out ONE SIDED on this thread and forum. Find your rock! The sun will be setting soon.
Wrong again, twit. Plenty of us here have VERY vocally disagreed with Gail when we felt she was wrong. We just all happen to agree with her this time that you are lower than pond scum. :)
~Bev
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 02:42 PM
That'd take a lot of lawyers.
Been peekin'?:rolleyes: Make sure that ain't "Gail"...
~yawn~ More unimaginative insults from Twit.
~Bev
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 02:42 PM
Does anyone else picture Matt Doc Martin as Tom Cruise in a Few Good Men , screaming at Olney as Jack Nicholson on the stand ? Because I'm picturing that right now.
Matt Doc Martin (Tom Cruise) : " I WANT THE TRUTH !! "
Olney ( Jack Nicholson : " You can't HANDLE THE TRUTH ! "
Ed had a great one like that.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070111-162218.jpg
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
SteveForbes
02-26-2007, 02:43 PM
Wrong again, twit. Plenty of us here have VERY vocally disagreed with Gail when we felt she was wrong. We just all happen to agree with her this time that you are lower than pond scum. :)
~Bev
Come on now, Bev!
Ponds aren't that deep. (and neither is YOR.)
-llama
Linkara
02-26-2007, 02:43 PM
Wrong again, twit. Plenty of us here have VERY vocally disagreed with Gail when we felt she was wrong. We just all happen to agree with her this time that you are lower than pond scum. :)
~Bev
True that, in fact, there is one thing I really want to talk to her about that I find to be in disagreement over, but I know I can reason with her and we can still disagree amicably.
But you, dear Mr. Olney, have been asked a question by Matt no less than FOUR TIMES AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 02:44 PM
And not a very good trick
Matt,
Bev sounds partial to ponies. Hook her up, wouldja?
Hey now, don't be attaching YOUR fetishes to me, twit.
~Bev
JeffreyWKramer
02-26-2007, 02:44 PM
What a fuckin' pussy.
I must object to this statement, as "pussy" - whether used in reference to cats or to female genitalia - refers to something good.
He is very much a coward and a douchebag and a mealy-mouthed sack of rancid shit, however.
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 02:45 PM
Come on now, Bev!
Ponds aren't that deep. (and neither is YOR.)
-llamaUntil the long arm of the law gets through with his ass.
...What's that? Do I hear the snapping of rubber gloves? o.o^
NatGertler
02-26-2007, 02:45 PM
I was following instructions from someone that knew more of this matter than you, Matt the Troll, or anyone else. That's all I have to say about Ronee.
So, rather than keeping your word, you claim to be following instructions from someone else?
If someone else is in control of your end of the situation, don't you think that the folks you're dealing with have a right to know who that is?
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 02:45 PM
Beyond that, there's the simple fact that civil society doesn't tolerate dishonesty and crooked behavior.
Exactly! Feet held to the fire, all that has been trumped up here in this thread are lies.
NOBODY claiming to be infringed upon was ever threatened or denied their legal rights. You all just think because "Gail Simone" and Sarah Beach, along with the fellow ass-scratchin' writers that enjoy hero envy from plebes, everything stated by them holds more legal truth. It doesn't.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 02:46 PM
Until the long arm of the law gets through with his ass.
...What's that? Do I hear the snapping of rubber gloves? o.o^
You are delusional.
Linkara
02-26-2007, 02:46 PM
I am delusional.
So is J-Bolt.
There, fixed.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 02:46 PM
True that, in fact, there is one thing I really want to talk to her about that I find to be in disagreement over, but I know I can reason with her and we can still disagree amicably.
But you, dear Mr. Olney, have been asked a question by Matt no less than FOUR TIMES AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED.
He doesn't have a decent, clear answer.
He has no proof of either claim. NO ONE threatened his family, he had no proof that he had permission to raise money for St Judes and he never donated a thin dime. Otherwise, he would post proof and make me shut up. Hell, I would apologize profusely.
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 02:47 PM
So you DO admit that she tried to do things your way and you fucked her over AGAIN?
~Bev
I answered that. I even told her that and ALL she had to do was follow through and she was so thrilled to have all the attention here ... she just holds back and moans about it. Now she can wait. Or take any action (paid by Mark Waid, I hope) that she deems possible. I also have 'worms' to use in fishing. I don't listen to threats. I won't be blackmailed in any respect. End of RGB topic discussion.
And, yet, when she actively TRIED to comply wish your demands, you fucked her over again.
~Bev
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 02:48 PM
You are delusional.
DO you have any idea how ironic and absurd that sounds coming from your lips?
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
JeffreyWKramer
02-26-2007, 02:48 PM
Hey now, don't be attaching YOUR fetishes to me, twit.
I would not be surprised if any fetishes Olney has involve things far stranger and much worse than ponies.
Frankly, though, it's a subject I'd recommend not thinking about too much. That way lies madness... or at very least the strong possibility of making oneself sick.
TCJohnson
02-26-2007, 02:49 PM
You are delusional.
Yes, she is....but she will still be getting an invite to my Christmas parties before you do! Nyah nyah!
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 02:50 PM
You keep saying this kind of bullshit, but that don't make it so.
When people in the comics industry act like douchebags to other people in the industry, that impacts those people, and thus the industry. That makes such douchebaggery the business of those that care about the industry.
Beyond that, there's the simple fact that civil society doesn't tolerate dishonesty and crooked behavior.
Lies and a desire for secrecy are not the province of an honest man.
Exactly! Feet held to the fire, all that has been trumped up here in this thread are lies.
NOBODY claiming to be infringed upon was ever threatened or denied their legal rights. You all just think because "Gail Simone" and Sarah Beach, along with the fellow ass-scratchin' writers that enjoy hero envy from plebes, everything stated by them holds more legal truth. It doesn't.
Careful, Twit. Your jealousy is showing through yet again!
~Bev
neko onna
02-26-2007, 02:50 PM
WOW..go down sick for a bit and come back to DRAMA!!! weee doggies!
PLEASE take this to People's Court!!! It would be the highest rated show if its history!!! LOL I would LOVE to see Judge Milian sink her teeth into this!!:D
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 02:50 PM
Until the long arm of the law gets through with his ass.
...What's that? Do I hear the snapping of rubber gloves? o.o^
You are delusional.
I repeat: Pot, Kettle, Black.
~Bev
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 02:51 PM
So, rather than keeping your word, you claim to be following instructions from someone else?
If someone else is in control of your end of the situation, don't you think that the folks you're dealing with have a right to know who that is?
Nat,
I'm under no obligation in any respect to reveal information until I'm either instructed to, or that information is made available to those needing it directly.
I'm not feeding the mob mentality with facts on specifics. I am, however, at ease to share a small look into the realistic place that some of these alleged 'victims' are claiming they are.
Again, TOTS and first tier talent that has done work for my compnay will have their day. People that embarked to merely troll and libel will get their day. I just don't have control of the sun or when that day will shine for those involved.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 02:51 PM
Nat,
I'm under no obligation in any respect to reveal information until I'm either instructed to, or that information is made available to those needing it directly.
I'm not feeding the mob mentality with facts on specifics. I am, however, at ease to share a small look into the realistic place that some of these alleged 'victims' are claiming they are.
Again, TOTS and first tier talent that has done work for my compnay will have their day. People that embarked to merely troll and libel will get their day. I just don't have control of the sun or when that day will shine for those involved.
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
JeffreyWKramer
02-26-2007, 02:51 PM
Exactly! Feet held to the fire, all that has been trumped up here in this thread are lies.
NOBODY claiming to be infringed upon was ever threatened or denied their legal rights.
Don't try to turn this around. Your two-faced, back-ass, legalese bullshit arguments are tiring.
An honest person pays what he or she owes, pure and simple. He or she doesn't make up stupid arguments and bullshit conditions and try to drag it through the courts. He or she simply pays his or her debts. Those they owe shouldn't have to invoke and utilize their legal rights, they should simply get the payment owed to them.
Honesty is not about what one can legally get away with, but rather it is about what is true and right. Anyone that doesn't understand this is truly a loathesome and pathetic excuse for a human being.
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 02:51 PM
Exactly! Feet held to the fire, all that has been trumped up here in this thread are lies.
NOBODY claiming to be infringed upon was ever threatened or denied their legal rights. You all just think because "Gail Simone" and Sarah Beach, along with the fellow ass-scratchin' writers that enjoy hero envy from plebes, everything stated by them holds more legal truth. It doesn't.
But thats the thing Rick. Many of us have read Waid and Busiek's comics for years. And many of us think of them as great in this industry. Thats never gonna change.
But do you honestly feel these great writers are playing to us ? To try and get themselves more over with us ? You'd be wrong. They don't need to play to the people on the YABS board to sell comics. They saw a wrong they percieved and stepped in.
You can say their playing to us to be heroes. But they saw a wrong and stepped in to fix it. Thats why Mark Waid made his offer pages ago. Thats why they won't cut you no slack. They see you as bringing the worst aspects of the business and they wanna take care of it.
Thats why their doing this. Not for us...their doing it for the Industry and Business of comics. So no other pros have to go thru this.
Sarah Beach
02-26-2007, 02:52 PM
Actually, you should seek medical help for that fungal infection. It could be botrytis blight.
Hmmm. Let's see. Am I a fruit or vegetable?
Not the last time I checked with my physician.
I guess the irritation that's bothering me is not botrytis blight. It must be a mental exacerbation, brought on by trying to discern the intention of meaning from a certain incompetent would-be word vendor.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 02:53 PM
I repeat: Pot, Kettle, Black.
~Bev
Your purpose here is obvious. You serve no real purpose other than to antagonize and wipe a tear stained cheek here or there. Good for you!
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 02:53 PM
You are delusional.Good boy, you've started shortening your sentences into chunks that you can actually handle.
You should start shortening your tab, too.
JeffreyWKramer
02-26-2007, 02:54 PM
Nat,
I'm under no obligation in any respect to reveal information until I'm either instructed to, or that information is made available to those needing it directly.
I'm not feeding the mob mentality with facts on specifics. I am, however, at ease to share a small look into the realistic place that some of these alleged 'victims' are claiming they are.
Again, TOTS and first tier talent that has done work for my compnay will have their day. People that embarked to merely troll and libel will get their day. I just don't have control of the sun or when that day will shine for those involved.
You're under a moral obligation to pay people what is owed them. They shouldn't have to wait to "have their day" in court or whatever. Just pay people, fucktard. It works a lot better that way.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 02:54 PM
Hmmm. Let's see. Am I a fruit or vegetable?
Not the last time I checked with my physician.
I guess the irritation that's bothering me is not botrytis blight. It must be a mental exacerbation, brought on by trying to discern the intention of meaning from a certain incompetent would-be word vendor.
Sarah, you're defined. But see your physician for that rash. :p
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 02:54 PM
So, rather than keeping your word, you claim to be following instructions from someone else?
If someone else is in control of your end of the situation, don't you think that the folks you're dealing with have a right to know who that is?
Nat,
I'm under no obligation in any respect to reveal information until I'm either instructed to, or that information is made available to those needing it directly.
I'm not feeding the mob mentality with facts on specifics. I am, however, at ease to share a small look into the realistic place that some of these alleged 'victims' are claiming they are.
Again, TOTS and first tier talent that has done work for my compnay will have their day. People that embarked to merely troll and libel will get their day. I just don't have control of the sun or when that day will shine for those involved.
More Twit BS. Move along, nothing to see here.
~Bev
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 02:55 PM
Yes, she is....but she will still be getting an invite to my Christmas parties before you do! Nyah nyah!Eggnog? o.o^
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 02:55 PM
More Twit BS. Move along, nothing to see here.
~Bev
Funny, I was thinking the saaaaaaaame thing. :rolleyes:
DocAbsurd
02-26-2007, 02:56 PM
NOBODY claiming to be infringed upon was ever threatened or denied their legal rights. You all just think because "Gail Simone" and Sarah Beach, along with the fellow ass-scratchin' writers that enjoy hero envy from plebes, everything stated by them holds more legal truth. It doesn't.
*wags finger*
Rick, Rick, Rickie-poo, Richard, Ricardo. Name-calling now? Speaks volumes of you, you know. Remember those 'civil statues' . . .
Hey, why not give your behind a good ole scratching? Mebbe you too can be one of them there writing plebes.
Doc 'Use Both Hands' Absurd
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 02:56 PM
Sarah, you're defined. But see your physician for that rash. :p
You are defined, peanut. You lie. Thus, you are a liar.
Nat,
I'm under no obligation in any respect to reveal information until I'm either instructed to, or that information is made available to those needing it directly.
I'm not feeding the mob mentality with facts on specifics. I am, however, at ease to share a small look into the realistic place that some of these alleged 'victims' are claiming they are.
Again, TOTS and first tier talent that has done work for my compnay will have their day. People that embarked to merely troll and libel will get their day. I just don't have control of the sun or when that day will shine for those involved.
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
Linkara
02-26-2007, 02:56 PM
Your purpose here is obvious. You serve no real purpose other than to antagonize and wipe a tear stained cheek here or there. Good for you!
And yet what purpose do you serve by continuing to post here, Rick? While it amuses me to watch you do this, do you even realize what kind of a hole you continue to dig by posting at these forums? Honestly, do you understand what the hell you're doing?
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 02:56 PM
Funny, I was thinking the saaaaaaaame thing. :rolleyes:
She mods the forum, mans. Net etiquette says that it's actually your job to do the moseying.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 02:57 PM
I repeat: Pot, Kettle, Black.
~Bev
Your purpose here is obvious. You serve no real purpose other than to antagonize and wipe a tear stained cheek here or there. Good for you!
I am here to mock you. Get used to it, Twit. I'm not going away.
~Bev
the4thpip
02-26-2007, 02:57 PM
They do when you're forwarding them to your imaginary lawyer, "Del."
kdb
Kurt is providing some pure comedy gold here tonight! :D
Flamebird
02-26-2007, 02:58 PM
Tim,
I have been holding back on taking any action towards you because of my personal knowledge (via our now lost friendship) of how your life has been. I didn't want to pull you into this all. But you're perpetuating this and you've said enough to be evaluated legally. Obviously, you know that one person taking on this many people has lots of things needing to be charted and catalogued -- much as you all have chosen to make note of my every post.
I'm not answering your questions. I only know that your many, many emails to me along with what you told others ... does not equal how you claim to be 'damaged' as a person.
You can 'sue' me if you have an attorney willing and capable to put a case together based on civil statues. Again, nobody ever kept you from taking any step you felt necessary. I mean, regarding this mob you joined and helped spur on. How culpable you are remains to be seen by those on this side of the fence that handle those areas.
You calling me "Moby" is just as childish as the "Dick" and "peanut" references. They show more than you can imagine.
Did he really just give us permission to sue him for civic statues?
'Cause there's this really ugly one downtown..... :rolleyes:
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 02:58 PM
Kurt is providing some pure comedy gold here tonight! :D
And in his own way, so does peanut.
Nat,
I'm under no obligation in any respect to reveal information until I'm either instructed to, or that information is made available to those needing it directly.
I'm not feeding the mob mentality with facts on specifics. I am, however, at ease to share a small look into the realistic place that some of these alleged 'victims' are claiming they are.
Again, TOTS and first tier talent that has done work for my compnay will have their day. People that embarked to merely troll and libel will get their day. I just don't have control of the sun or when that day will shine for those involved.
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 02:58 PM
Hmmm. Let's see. Am I a fruit or vegetable?
Not the last time I checked with my physician.
I guess the irritation that's bothering me is not botrytis blight. It must be a mental exacerbation, brought on by trying to discern the intention of meaning from a certain incompetent would-be word vendor.
Sarah, you're defined. But see your physician for that rash. :p
Yet more insults from Twit. Boy, is his lawyer going to have a field day trying to defend his words here.
~Bev
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 02:59 PM
But thats the thing Rick. Many of us have read Waid and Busiek's comics for years. And many of us think of them as great in this industry. Thats never gonna change.
But do you honestly feel these great writers are playing to us ? To try and get themselves more over with us ? You'd be wrong. They don't need to play to the people on the YABS board to sell comics. They saw a wrong they percieved and stepped in.
You can say their playing to us to be heroes. But they saw a wrong and stepped in to fix it. Thats why Mark Waid made his offer pages ago. Thats why they won't cut you no slack. They see you as bringing the worst aspects of the business and they wanna take care of it.
Thats why their doing this. Not for us...their doing it for the Industry and Business of comics. So no other pros have to go thru this.
Ronée
02-26-2007, 02:59 PM
I answered that. I even told her that and ALL she had to do was follow through and she was so thrilled to have all the attention here ... she just holds back and moans about it. Now she can wait. Or take any action (paid by Mark Waid, I hope) that she deems possible. I also have 'worms' to use in fishing. I don't listen to threats. I won't be blackmailed in any respect. End of RGB topic discussion.I numerous times attempted to comply. you withdrew, and u may not listen, but these are not threats I assure you, and your attempt at extortion will be dealt with accordingly.
TomStillwell
02-26-2007, 02:59 PM
Somewhere, an imaginary attorney in a perfect black tuxedo, cummerbund and bowtie types "Tom Stilwell" into Google.
I hope they're looking up "Tom Stilwell" on Google.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 02:59 PM
You're under a moral obligation to pay people what is owed them. They shouldn't have to wait to "have their day" in court or whatever. Just pay people, fucktard. It works a lot better that way.
Name calling, Jeffrey?
Just do the matter a huge favor and wait until it gets through the legal stage. I'm not your fucktard. How this website and forum condone such namecalling says a lot about the caliber of people that post here. I don't recall calling you any names.
And where does that brilliant statement from you translate into moral obligation?
You're just another idiot, weighing in with an opinion that doesn't matter for a happy meal smile, a slap on your good ole boy back, and peck on your cheek.
Sarah Beach
02-26-2007, 03:00 PM
And I just got the below from a person that has been following this insane thread:
Rick,
Yeah, I kinda think some of those posting are kids with way too much time on their hands. I think the operative word here is "Absurd". When dealing with talented, artistic people, it is necessary to remember that some of them have egos bigger than their talent. I have found that big egos usually mean insecure people trying to outwit their own insecurity.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
Edmund Burke
This is a laugh.
I've been on boards where the it was quiet easy to discern which were the teen posters and which were the adults. And by and large, I'd have to say that this board has one of the higher adult percentage participation ratings than others I could name.
But perhaps Rick was only pointing his friend toward some of the frivolous exchanges. Which were still smarter and wittier than those of mere teens.
And the "Absurd" reference.... Heh. Tim's a busy and talented guy, who is also wrangling two kids. Come on. He doesn't have that much time on his hands. And he'll have even less shortly, as I'm about to hire him for a couple of pieces of artwork I need. And I'll be paying him promptly, by the way!
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:00 PM
More Twit BS. Move along, nothing to see here.
~Bev
Funny, I was thinking the saaaaaaaame thing. :rolleyes:
You call yourself Twit?
~Bev
Linkara
02-26-2007, 03:00 PM
Yet more insults from Twit. Boy, is his lawyer going to have a field day trying to defend his words here.
~Bev
...What lawyer?
howyadoin
02-26-2007, 03:01 PM
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?Maybe you're on his ignore list, so I'll repost.
Dreadstar
02-26-2007, 03:01 PM
I must object to this statement, as "pussy" - whether used in reference to cats or to female genitalia - refers to something good.
He is very much a coward and a douchebag and a mealy-mouthed sack of rancid shit, however.
In my own defense, I'm a bit archaic in my personal patois. I understand your position, but when I was younger, calling another follow a "pussy" was in fact a weeding out process. Those men who were offended tended to react with overt hostility. Those who were, in fact, "pussies" pretended they couldn't hear you because they were cowardly at heart. You can see which one Rick is.
Thankfully, I no longer use the words "bitchin'", "groovy", or "boss."
I think some slack is not out of the question.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:02 PM
Name calling, Jeffrey?
Just do the matter a huge favor and wait until it gets through the legal stage. I'm not your fucktard. How this website and forum condone such namecalling says a lot about the caliber of people that post here. I don't recall calling you any names.
And where does that brilliant statement from you translate into moral obligation?
You're just another idiot, weighing in with an opinion that doesn't matter for a happy meal smile, a slap on your good ole boy back, and peck on your cheek.
Um...look at your post. Do the things I high-lighted make you pause and think? You have been calling names all day.
Nat,
I'm under no obligation in any respect to reveal information until I'm either instructed to, or that information is made available to those needing it directly.
I'm not feeding the mob mentality with facts on specifics. I am, however, at ease to share a small look into the realistic place that some of these alleged 'victims' are claiming they are.
Again, TOTS and first tier talent that has done work for my compnay will have their day. People that embarked to merely troll and libel will get their day. I just don't have control of the sun or when that day will shine for those involved.
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
howyadoin
02-26-2007, 03:02 PM
I'm not your fucktard.Which begs the question...
Linkara
02-26-2007, 03:02 PM
Thankfully, I no longer use the word "groovy",
Bruce Campbell is saddened by this.
Corrina
02-26-2007, 03:02 PM
I guess Mr. Olney thinks we have memories as confusing and as short as he does if he thinks people don't remember that earlier in the thread, he admitted owing Ronee money.
You know, I might think somoene at CBR is pretending to be Olney as a joke to pass the time but his posts are far too unintentionally incomprehensible to be imitated.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:03 PM
You're under a moral obligation to pay people what is owed them. They shouldn't have to wait to "have their day" in court or whatever. Just pay people, fucktard. It works a lot better that way.
Name calling, Jeffrey?
Just do the matter a huge favor and wait until it gets through the legal stage. I'm not your fucktard. How this website and forum condone such namecalling says a lot about the caliber of people that post here. I don't recall calling you any names.
And where does that brilliant statement from you translate into moral obligation?
You're just another idiot, weighing in with an opinion that doesn't matter for a happy meal smile, a slap on your good ole boy back, and peck on your cheek.
Says the "man" who calls people (women, especially) bitches, hos and douche bags.
~Bev
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 03:03 PM
Which begs the question...
Remember that long arm I mentioned?
Snap, snap.
(He hears the rubber snapping, snapping at his basement door.)
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:03 PM
Maybe you're on his ignore list, so I'll repost.
Thank you! Don't forget my offer to leave for a minimum of two weeks...longer if the mods choose.
JTPencils
02-26-2007, 03:05 PM
.... I'm just surprised it took you 'Brainiac' types so long to confirm what I had been saying was a lie and mistruth...
It didn't take us long at all peanut, just took YOU forever to admit it was all a lie!! Much like your promise to pay, or to even have your attorney contact people.
Dreadstar
02-26-2007, 03:05 PM
Bruce Campbell is saddened by this.
However, I am not as cool as Bruce Campbell.
Yeah, big surprise there, huh?
rummblestrips
02-26-2007, 03:05 PM
I would just like to point out that under this username, which he created for the sole purpose of responding to this thread, Rick Olney has posted 236 strange, erratic and nonsensical posts.
That MUST be a record.
rummblestrips
02-26-2007, 03:06 PM
However, I am not as cool as Bruce Campbell.
Yeah, big surprise there, huh?
Have you seen that new Old Spice commercial with Bruce?
Now that's cool
Linkara
02-26-2007, 03:07 PM
I would just like to point out that under this username, which he created for the sole purpose of responding to this thread, Rick Olney has posted 236 strange, erratic and nonsensical posts.
That MUST be a record.
Has he even posted anywhere else?
Sarah Beach
02-26-2007, 03:07 PM
And I'm telling you that your boat has a hole in it. So all the worms that you claim to have in the whole world isn't going to get you satisfaction. You don't need to be scared of me. Your, "I did work, you accepted it, you owe me. Period." schtick is lame unless you realize that without a contract ... you were simply helping out, and I have proof of that. You don't have a legal leg to stand on beyond crying and moaning the blues.
Excuse me, sir, but when you posted notices all over the internet about hiring Ronee to do your public relations work, you can't claim now that it was "just helping you out".
Idiot.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:07 PM
I would just like to point out that under this username, which he created for the sole purpose of responding to this thread, Rick Olney has posted 236 strange, erratic and nonsensical posts.
That MUST be a record.
How many does Jbolt have?
JTPencils
02-26-2007, 03:07 PM
Same spelling.
I don't think he's being honorable where it concerns his wife. She probably doesn't want to be held accountable for his moronic behavior.
Agreed Tom. You can't stop someone from shooting themselves in the foot... but you don't have to help them aim the gun.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:08 PM
I numerous times attempted to comply. you withdrew, and u may not listen, but these are not threats I assure you, and your attempt at extortion will be dealt with accordingly.
Yeah, you using words like "extortion" with me is really going to get you closer to feeling better about what took place between you, me, and TightLip Entertainment.
You're expecting and would like payment for work you may or may not be entitled to. You early on got offered the a release to sign. You scoffed at it and insulted me. You now continue to try and leverage me ... as in blackmail ... and I made my attorney very aware of you VERY early on.
So park your high and mighty demeanor, stop your insults because you're probably closer to a civil suit for libel than you realize. When contacted, comply when you get the next opportunity. Then you'll be rid of this matter. Otherwise, once you are the object of being dealt with ... I will mostly go with what I am advised legally. You could've gotten above all this eatlier, but you wanted to play personalities and immerse yourself in all the love and acceptance socially here extended you after primarily putting yourself OUTSIDE before contacting me. And YOU contacted me first, recall that?
rummblestrips
02-26-2007, 03:08 PM
Says the "man" who calls people (women, especially) bitches, hos and douche bags.
~Bev
Bev, you're doing a fine job here. You're getting a hug from me too. (If you're realll good, I'll grab your butt too!)
Draconomicon
02-26-2007, 03:08 PM
No, they're just a tighter knit community that follows blindly taking everything fed as the straight up truth in a matter played out ONE SIDED on this thread and forum. Find your rock! The sun will be setting soon.
Well, that would be nice and fine if not for the fact that pretty much 90% of the people who seem to post in this thread did not have any connection to Gail Simone before.
It seems you, Mr. Olney, are the focal point for all.
They all had only contact with 'you'. Not with each other before you denied people the pay they deserve for the work they did for you.
DocAbsurd
02-26-2007, 03:08 PM
Nat,
I'm under no obligation in any respect to reveal information until I'm either instructed to, or that information is made available to those needing it directly.
I'm not feeding the mob mentality with facts on specifics. I am, however, at ease to share a small look into the realistic place that some of these alleged 'victims' are claiming they are.
Again, TOTS and first tier talent that has done work for my compnay will have their day. People that embarked to merely troll and libel will get their day. I just don't have control of the sun or when that day will shine for those involved.
Am I imagining it, or is this the second time today he's admitted that creators on TotS and other 'first tier talent' (which makes him either a non-publisher or a non-architect) not only did work for him, but they're being sued by him? For what can they be sued over exactly, completing work? Creating the comic book adventures of embarrassing characters? Being associated with you in the first place?
And now 'Time Warp' has been replaced with 'the Sun'll Come Out Tomorrow' . . .
Doc 'Betcher Bottom Dollar' Absurd
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:08 PM
Agreed Tom. You can't stop someone from shooting themselves in the foot... but you don't have to help them aim the gun.
You'll find out soon enough, JT.
rummblestrips
02-26-2007, 03:09 PM
Has he even posted anywhere else?
That's my point. I don't think so.
All those posts, HERE, in this thread.
just wow..
JeffreyWKramer
02-26-2007, 03:10 PM
Name calling, Jeffrey?
Just do the matter a huge favor and wait until it gets through the legal stage.
I don't owe you a favor. You, on the other hand, owe people money.
I'm not your fucktard.
You're not my anything. I don't claim you.
How this website and forum condone such namecalling says a lot about the caliber of people that post here. I don't recall calling you any names.
You've called plenty of folk names, and made lots of insulting statements. You deserve to be called many more.
And where does that brilliant statement from you translate into moral obligation?
The moral obligation to pay one's debts doesn't have anything to do with my statements, brilliant or otherwise.
You're just another idiot, weighing in with an opinion that doesn't matter for a happy meal smile, a slap on your good ole boy back, and peck on your cheek.
You calling someone an idiot is pretty amusing. As to the rest, while I don't bear any of these folks any animosity*, I'm not really pals with any of the primary folk in this thread, and I've had disagreements with a fair number of them, so it ain't about pecks on the cheek and being one of the crowd.
For me, it's about calling it as I see it, and as I see it, you're a cowardly, dishonest douchebag.
* One thing I do have contempt for that's been done by some in this thread, though... those that insist on making insulting comments or insinuations about Olney's wife or family members should really knock that shit off. It's inappropriate and disgusting.
Linkara
02-26-2007, 03:10 PM
You'll find out soon enough, JT.
SOMEONE SAVE THIS! :D
*Hums the Weird Al song "Trigger Happy."*
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 03:11 PM
I think at this stage Rick's enjoying the attention and craves it. He's like a moth to the flame. He can not handle watching the thread die and not be RICK OLNEY , RICK OLNEY...RICK OLNEY !!
Its sad really. I was chatting with a pal in my LCS and he even commented on the Olney thing. I didn't bring it up as he asked me had I heard about it. I told him yeah and said I post on CBR. Then he said the funniest thing: " If that guy is in charge of a comics company , he's really not helping himself by melting down on message boards. "
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:11 PM
Yeah, you using words like "extortion" with me is really going to get you closer to feeling better about what took place between you, me, and TightLip Entertainment.
You're expecting and would like payment for work you may or may not be entitled to. You early on got offered the a release to sign. You scoffed at it and insulted me. You now continue to try and leverage me ... as in blackmail ... and I made my attorney very aware of you VERY early on.
So park your high and mighty demeanor, stop your insults because you're probably closer to a civil suit for libel than you realize. When contacted, comply when you get the next opportunity. Then you'll be rid of this matter. Otherwise, once you are the object of being dealt with ... I will mostly go with what I am advised legally. You could've gotten above all this eatlier, but you wanted to play personalities and immerse yourself in all the love and acceptance socially here extended you after primarily putting yourself OUTSIDE before contacting me. And YOU contacted me first, recall that?
According to you, we are ALL actionable for libel, stalking, and harassment.
Yet no one on our side has heard anything from your "lawyer" or the law in general. Meanwhile, you lost at least one case already, have another coming up that you are unlikely to attend, and I sent 2 formal complaints to the NY Attorney General in relation to alleged charity fraud.
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
JeffreyWKramer
02-26-2007, 03:12 PM
In my own defense, I'm a bit archaic in my personal patois. I understand your position, but when I was younger, calling another follow a "pussy" was in fact a weeding out process. Those men who were offended tended to react with overt hostility. Those who were, in fact, "pussies" pretended they couldn't hear you because they were cowardly at heart. You can see which one Rick is.
This I certainly understand, and your observations are spot on.
Thankfully, I no longer use the words "bitchin'", "groovy", or "boss."
I still use "groovy" from time to time, but never really used the others.
I think some slack is not out of the question.
A reasonable request, readily granted.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:14 PM
I numerous times attempted to comply. you withdrew, and u may not listen, but these are not threats I assure you, and your attempt at extortion will be dealt with accordingly.
Yeah, you using words like "extortion" with me is really going to get you closer to feeling better about what took place between you, me, and TightLip Entertainment.
You're expecting and would like payment for work you may or may not be entitled to. You early on got offered the a release to sign. You scoffed at it and insulted me. You now continue to try and leverage me ... as in blackmail ... and I made my attorney very aware of you VERY early on.
So park your high and mighty demeanor, stop your insults because you're probably closer to a civil suit for libel than you realize. When contacted, comply when you get the next opportunity. Then you'll be rid of this matter. Otherwise, once you are the object of being dealt with ... I will mostly go with what I am advised legally. You could've gotten above all this eatlier, but you wanted to play personalities and immerse yourself in all the love and acceptance socially here extended you after primarily putting yourself OUTSIDE before contacting me. And YOU contacted me first, recall that?
"When contacted, comply when you get the next opportunity."
Does anyone else think that sounds like a ransom demand? Or, dare I say it, blackmail?
~Bev
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:15 PM
Am I imagining it, or is this the second time today he's admitted that creators on TotS and other 'first tier talent' (which makes him either a non-publisher or a non-architect) not only did work for him, but they're being sued by him? For what can they be sued over exactly, completing work? Creating the comic book adventures of embarrassing characters? Being associated with you in the first place?
And now 'Time Warp' has been replaced with 'the Sun'll Come Out Tomorrow' . . .
Doc 'Betcher Bottom Dollar' Absurd
Sued by me?
To be clear, TOTS talent and those I identify as 'first tier' talent are on two levels of being dealt with. Those that broke their NDA and those that complied to their contract. When any civil suits from me are concerned -- I have no control over that. I merely point people that demean, libel, and threaten me to the attention of those people that enforce civil law. Those NDA's were signed first and worded as they are for a very real reason. Nothing I've said here has compromised my legal position.
But you can think and act as you want. If you're found to be culpable
... you're legal meat.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:16 PM
Agreed Tom. You can't stop someone from shooting themselves in the foot... but you don't have to help them aim the gun.
You'll find out soon enough, JT.
What does that mean, Rick?
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
JTPencils
02-26-2007, 03:18 PM
Meanwhile, NOBODY has infringed upon the rights of those 'talents' feeling allegedly aggrieved. Nobody has talked ill of them.
CYA!
WRONG... another classic Olney fabrication. Dimwit himself made disparaging remarks about myself, and at least one other that I know of. If there's any way for me to get those remarks to post them... I will do so. Something to the effect of "incompetent" and "less then talented". So there ya go... lie #4590. Pile 'em on peanut!!
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:18 PM
Bev, you're doing a fine job here. You're getting a hug from me too. (If you're realll good, I'll grab your butt too!)
WOOT!
Hey, us bitches, hos, strippers and douche bags have to stick together! ;)
~Bev
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:18 PM
Sued by me?
To be clear, TOTS talent and those I identify as 'first tier' talent are on two levels of being dealt with. Those that broke their NDA and those that complied to their contract. When any civil suits from me are concerned -- I have no control over that. I merely point people that demean, libel, and threaten me to the attention of those people that enforce civil law. Those NDA's were signed first and worded as they are for a very real reason. Nothing I've said here has compromised my legal position.
But you can think and act as you want. If you're found to be culpable
... you're legal meat.
Um...you would most certainly control any civil suits. Lawyers can only act on order from whoever enlists them.
Surely your "lawyer" has told you this, yes?
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:18 PM
Excuse me, sir, but when you posted notices all over the internet about hiring Ronee to do your public relations work, you can't claim now that it was "just helping you out".
Idiot.
Again, what part of non-of-your-business don't you understand. My talking to Ronee here in answering her posts (aimed directly at me) isn't me asking for your remarks or opinions. It also isn't me caring what you think or have to say.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:19 PM
Um...you would most certainly control any civil suits. Lawyers can only act on order from whoever enlists them.
Surely your "lawyer" has told you this, yes?
Again, what part of non-of-your-business don't you understand. My talking to Ronee here in answering her posts (aimed directly at me) isn't me asking for your remarks or opinions. It also isn't me caring what you think or have to say.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:19 PM
Agreed Tom. You can't stop someone from shooting themselves in the foot... but you don't have to help them aim the gun.
You'll find out soon enough, JT.
Wheeeeeeee! More threats!
In case you missed it, Twit:
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
~Bev
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:19 PM
Again, what part of non-of-your-business don't you understand. My talking to Ronee here in answering her posts (aimed directly at me) isn't me asking for your remarks or opinions. It also isn't me caring what you think or have to say.
Or answering questions. Instead, you choose to blather and ramble pointlessly.
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 03:21 PM
Again, what part of non-of-your-business don't you understand. My talking to Ronee here in answering her posts (aimed directly at me) isn't me asking for your remarks or opinions.You really don't understand the internets, do you? It also isn't me caring what you think or have to say.If you didn't, you wouldn't have to say it.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:21 PM
Am I imagining it, or is this the second time today he's admitted that creators on TotS and other 'first tier talent' (which makes him either a non-publisher or a non-architect) not only did work for him, but they're being sued by him? For what can they be sued over exactly, completing work? Creating the comic book adventures of embarrassing characters? Being associated with you in the first place?
And now 'Time Warp' has been replaced with 'the Sun'll Come Out Tomorrow' . . .
Doc 'Betcher Bottom Dollar' Absurd
Sued by me?
To be clear, TOTS talent and those I identify as 'first tier' talent are on two levels of being dealt with. Those that broke their NDA and those that complied to their contract. When any civil suits from me are concerned -- I have no control over that. I merely point people that demean, libel, and threaten me to the attention of those people that enforce civil law. Those NDA's were signed first and worded as they are for a very real reason. Nothing I've said here has compromised my legal position.
But you can think and act as you want. If you're found to be culpable
... you're legal meat.
Oh, you've said plenty that compromises your "legal position", Twit.
By the way:
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
~Bev
Linkara
02-26-2007, 03:22 PM
WOOT!
Hey, us bitches, hos, strippers and douche bags have to stick together! ;)
~Bev
Can the men adopted by bitches, hos, strippers, and douche bags stick with you, as well? ^_~
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 03:22 PM
Again, what part of non-of-your-business don't you understand. My talking to Ronee here in answering her posts (aimed directly at me) isn't me asking for your remarks or opinions. It also isn't me caring what you think or have to say.
Ya know....he has been asking a more serious question for countless posts. IN HUGE BOLD LETTERS. And others are copying it. ;)
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:22 PM
I wonder how long peanut can ignore two simple questions?
Oh yeah...for years.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:23 PM
Can the men adopted by bitches, hos, strippers, and douche bags stick with you, as well? ^_~
Only if you accept us trolls.
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:23 PM
WRONG... another classic Olney fabrication. Dimwit himself made disparaging remarks about myself, and at least one other that I know of. If there's any way for me to get those remarks to post them... I will do so. Something to the effect of "incompetent" and "less then talented". So there ya go... lie #4590. Pile 'em on peanut!!
I have all of Jeff's emails remarking about your work, speed, and how he had to spiff and dress it up a little before sending me a jpeg to look at. We basically have an understanding, although you've clearly broken your NDA so I will be moving against you legally, Jim Taylor. Post all the supposid remarks that you claim. Be prepared to have your attorney informed and able to defend the seriousness of your civil law breaking actions.
Again, what part of non-of-your-business don't you understand. My talking to Ronee here in answering her posts (aimed directly at me) isn't me asking for your remarks or opinions. It also isn't me caring what you think or have to say.
Public forum.
Want a private conversation? try PM'ing or e-mail.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:24 PM
Excuse me, sir, but when you posted notices all over the internet about hiring Ronee to do your public relations work, you can't claim now that it was "just helping you out".
Idiot.
Again, what part of non-of-your-business don't you understand. My talking to Ronee here in answering her posts (aimed directly at me) isn't me asking for your remarks or opinions. It also isn't me caring what you think or have to say.
Hey, Sarah! Twit can't stand it when you throw his own words back at him!
Oh, and speaking of you, Dick:
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
~Bev
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 03:24 PM
I wonder how long peanut can ignore two simple questions?
Oh yeah...for years.
Your question is obviously scary enough at this stage. I can tell why he's avioding it. :p
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:25 PM
Um...you would most certainly control any civil suits. Lawyers can only act on order from whoever enlists them.
Surely your "lawyer" has told you this, yes?
Again, what part of non-of-your-business don't you understand. My talking to Ronee here in answering her posts (aimed directly at me) isn't me asking for your remarks or opinions. It also isn't me caring what you think or have to say.
You replying here MAKES it our business, Twit.
Oh yeah, one more thing:
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
~Bev
J. Morgan (Bat) Neal
02-26-2007, 03:25 PM
Hmmm. Let's see. Am I a fruit or vegetable?
Not the last time I checked with my physician.
I guess the irritation that's bothering me is not botrytis blight. It must be a mental exacerbation, brought on by trying to discern the intention of meaning from a certain incompetent would-be word vendor.
Well I think you are a peach, does that count? ;)
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:26 PM
How about, "Establishing a pattern of behavior relevant to the defendant's crime," Peanut? She can use her own experience with you as a character witness.
We have it. But I'm not exposing or talking about it here. So don't expect any further reply on the specific topic matter.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:26 PM
Can the men adopted by bitches, hos, strippers, and douche bags stick with you, as well? ^_~
Sure! :D
~Bev
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 03:27 PM
We have it. But I'm not exposing or talking about it here. So don't expect any further reply on the specific topic matter.You are lying so transparently that only a moron would believe you.
Linkara
02-26-2007, 03:27 PM
Only if you accept us trolls.
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
Well, see, here's the problem - Trolls go onto OTHER people's message boards and post things like "these people suck!" or make grandiose threats. All I've seen are people posting on this individual forum with the consent of Gail anything they'd like and only go onto other people's boards to ask legitimate questions. So, I can't accept trolls, but I can accept the people that Rick is claiming to be trolls. ^_~
*Hugs Peeg.*
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 03:27 PM
Again, I'm lawyered up and feel confident that my ass is covered.
That'd take a lot of lawyers.
Best Burn of the Year!!
SteveForbes
02-26-2007, 03:28 PM
We have it. But I'm not exposing or talking about it here. So don't expect any further reply on the specific topic matter.
Or any.
-llama
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:29 PM
WRONG... another classic Olney fabrication. Dimwit himself made disparaging remarks about myself, and at least one other that I know of. If there's any way for me to get those remarks to post them... I will do so. Something to the effect of "incompetent" and "less then talented". So there ya go... lie #4590. Pile 'em on peanut!!
I have all of Jeff's emails remarking about your work, speed, and how he had to spiff and dress it up a little before sending me a jpeg to look at. We basically have an understanding, although you've clearly broken your NDA so I will be moving against you legally, Jim Taylor. Post all the supposid remarks that you claim. Be prepared to have your attorney informed and able to defend the seriousness of your civil law breaking actions.
Lalalalaalalalalaaaa... More insults. Twit is beginning to bore me.
~Bev
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:30 PM
You are lying so transparently that only a moron would believe you.
We shall see...
You have already proven your closed mindset on this matter. And didn't you bring my religion into this? Nothing lower than talking and using a person's religion to keep a flamewar going. And you call yourself wiccan?
Shame. You are most likely looking at more angst on the horizon than you can handle. Karma does that.
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 03:31 PM
Frankly, you're lightweight and won't take long to handle legally.Seems to have taken you a few years so far. Or is your definition of "won't take long" measured in decades?
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:31 PM
How about, "Establishing a pattern of behavior relevant to the defendant's crime," Peanut? She can use her own experience with you as a character witness.
We have it. But I'm not exposing or talking about it here. So don't expect any further reply on the specific topic matter.
As usual.
~Bev
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 03:32 PM
We have it. But I'm not exposing or talking about it here. So don't expect any further reply on the specific topic matter.
Til the thread starts to die and attention wanes on the Rick Olney Show and I'll be back to try and stir the people up as usual. Because at this stage....its all I got.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:32 PM
Lalalalaalalalalaaaa... More insults. Twit is beginning to bore me.
~Bev
'Twit' will simply let real people not prone to hanging out on this forum and website know that you're bored. Hooo Huum... :rolleyes:
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:33 PM
You are lying so transparently that only a moron would believe you.
We shall see...
You have already proven your closed mindset on this matter. And didn't you bring my religion into this? Nothing lower than talking and using a person's religion to keep a flamewar going. And you call yourself wiccan?
Shame. You are most likely looking at more angst on the horizon than you can handle. Karma does that.
You know exactly jack and shit about Karma, Twit.
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
~Bev
howyadoin
02-26-2007, 03:33 PM
I would just like to point out that under this username, which he created for the sole purpose of responding to this thread, Rick Olney has posted 236 strange, erratic and nonsensical posts.
That MUST be a record.Trust me. Not even close.
Hey, us bitches, hos, strippers and douche bags have to stick together!Some of my best friends are bitches, hoes, strippers and douchbags.
Best Burn of the Year!!I dunno. I think I should've said "assload of lawyers" instead.
Draconomicon
02-26-2007, 03:34 PM
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
Posterific
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:35 PM
We shall see...
You have already proven your closed mindset on this matter. And didn't you bring my religion into this? Nothing lower than talking and using a person's religion to keep a flamewar going. And you call yourself wiccan?
Shame. You are most likely looking at more angst on the horizon than you can handle. Karma does that.
How dare YOU call yourself wiccan.
None of your actions demonstrate you are wiccan.
And the only one keeping this going is YOU. If you answered questions, what would we complain about? If you had proof for your claims, how could we mock you? If you stopped lying, how could we continue to call you a liar?
Does this make any sense to you, Rick?
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:35 PM
Lalalalaalalalalaaaa... More insults. Twit is beginning to bore me.
~Bev
'Twit' will simply let real people not prone to hanging out on this forum and website know that you're bored. Hooo Huum... :rolleyes:
You mean unlike your imaginary "lawyer"?
By the way, why won't you answer this:
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
~Bev
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:37 PM
Trust me. Not even close.
Some of my best friends are bitches, hoes, strippers and douchbags.
I dunno. I think I should've said "assload of lawyers" instead.
Apparently, your sis (me) is a ho, too.
~Bev
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:37 PM
I'm fetching a Happy Meal.
if rick deigns to offer any answer re:
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
then someone please quote it so I can see it.
He won't....but one can dream.
(And if you don't answer me, maybe the AG will ask you less nicely. Maybe not. But know that you will never get away with it again while I live.)
Linkara
02-26-2007, 03:38 PM
Apparently, your sis (me) is a ho, too.
~Bev
So, wait, if all the women here are hos, strippers, etc., what are the men around here?
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 03:39 PM
So, wait, if all the women here are hos, strippers, etc., what are the men around here?
Johns. Why do you ask?
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:39 PM
So, wait, if all the women here are hos, strippers, etc., what are the men around here?
Trolls and plebes.
~Bev
DocAbsurd
02-26-2007, 03:40 PM
Sued by me?
Yes, sued by you. What did you mean by 'dealt with'? You having us over for dinner and a movie?
To be clear, TOTS talent and those I identify as 'first tier' talent are on two levels of being dealt with. Those that broke their NDA and those that complied to their contract. When any civil suits from me are concerned -- I have no control over that. I merely point people that demean, libel, and threaten me to the attention of those people that enforce civil law. Those NDA's were signed first and worded as they are for a very real reason. Nothing I've said here has compromised my legal position.
See, y'bandy words like 'dealt with', 'civil suits', 'NDAs', 'broken contracts', 'civil law', 'libel', blah blah blah, and you're leading us to believe you're intending legal action. Or are you lying about that? Tick tock, tick tock.
Suddenly, I see why you were so insistent about having me sign an NDA. You needed me to keep my mouth shut. Having a loose cannon like meself, bound only by the terms of friendship which you musta known you'd eventually blow, that musta worried you. You're not used to having friends who trust you enough to slough off your broken promises of timely payments without a single complaint.
But you can think and act as you want. If you're found to be culpable
... you're legal meat.
Really? Can I be legal veal? After all, you kept me in the dark about so many dealings with the ICC and TLE, the only thing I'm missing is a side of Fettucinni Alfredo.
Thank the Lord above I never sent you that proposal for a 'Smitty' comic.
Doc 'Culpable and Palatable' Absurd
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 03:41 PM
How dare YOU call yourself wiccan.
None of your actions demonstrate you are wiccan.
And the only one keeping this going is YOU. If you answered questions, what would we complain about? If you had proof for your claims, how could we mock you? If you stopped lying, how could we continue to call you a liar?
Does this make any sense to you, Rick?
Matt at this point he just loves attention. It would kill his ego to see this thread die. He so wants to be talked about at this point. Because this thread was dropping down the page , he realized it was and came rushing back for the sure thrill of ATTENTION. To be discussed more.
Its a shame someone who claims they love comics could do so much damage to the industry . Its like he was wanting to be as Gail said earlier...way earlier...a big wheel in Comics and really can't. Its just sad and pathetic.
Linkara
02-26-2007, 03:41 PM
Trolls and plebes.
~Bev
Trolls, Plebes, Johns... I don't know, it just doesn't feel as equivalent to the names he calls the women. ^^;
Eh, I loves me the hos, anyway. ^_^ *Hugs Peeg once more.*
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:41 PM
Til the thread starts to die and attention wanes on the Rick Olney Show and I'll be back to try and stir the people up as usual. Because at this stage....its all I got.
This isn't my show by a long shot. I am merelt the topic of discusson, ridicule, and attack.
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 03:42 PM
You have already proven your closed mindset on this matter. And didn't you bring my religion into this?Nope. You did, by trying to claim that you were Wiccan.
Nothing lower than talking and using a person's religion to keep a flamewar going. Incorrect. Fortunately, the only thing that I did was highlight your religious hypocrisy.
Shame. You are most likely looking at more angst on the horizon than you can handle. Karma does that.I am a terminally-ill invalid living on the wrong side of poverty, am ill as a result of extended childhood abuse, years of homelessness, (and some unfortunate run-ins with cultists,) AND systemic genetic defects aggravated by said past.
I'm a VH-1 behind the artist special, really.
I'm pretty sure that I can handle the karma of three times my pointing out your religious hypocrisy.
You can't intimidate me, Olney. Having a hard life has made me a strong fighter and no person alive is capable of putting fear into me.
You are not a wiccan. I stand by it. I will continue to stand by that because it is vital, as a wiccan, to make sure that people don't get a wrong opinion of my religion. Gardner talked about a time when wiccans could practice openly, when people would think well of them.
That time is now. It's every wiccan's responsibility to keep it that way. If you were a real wiccan, you wouldn't be doing as you are. You would drop the lawyer act, apologise, pay up, and conduct your business ethically and responsibly from now on.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:43 PM
Til the thread starts to die and attention wanes on the Rick Olney Show and I'll be back to try and stir the people up as usual. Because at this stage....its all I got.
This isn't my show by a long shot. I am merelt the topic of discusson, ridicule, and attack.
Gee, I can't IMAGINE why that would be the case...
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
~Bev
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:44 PM
Trolls, Plebes, Johns... I don't know, it just doesn't feel as equivalent to the names he calls the women. ^^;
Eh, I loves me the hos, anyway. ^_^ *Hugs Peeg once more.*
He hates us more than you men.
*huggles!*
~Bev
Samuel Catalino
02-26-2007, 03:44 PM
After all, Rick Olney DID say he would NEVER COME BACK HERE!
So naturally, here he is!
I told you he would be back. :D
TCJohnson
02-26-2007, 03:45 PM
This isn't my show by a long shot. I am merelt the topic of discusson, ridicule, and attack.
What's a merelt?
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:45 PM
As usual.
~Bev
Bev,
We're in the real world. Life problems do not realistically get solved or made better by telling every aspect of your life here. I mean, look how you and your pals trashed me, my family, and then have the audacity to make bold clims that nobody came here to defend me. The few people that did come here were insulted and made to feel exactly how you and your pals wanted.
Guarantee you that won't happen in a civil court.
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 03:46 PM
* One thing I do have contempt for that's been done by some in this thread, though... those that insist on making insulting comments or insinuations about Olney's wife or family members should really knock that shit off. It's inappropriate and disgusting.
That was one thing I put the foot down on this thread for, oh, about 200 pages ago. Olney's family is off-limits.
The ONLY way his wife could be involved was as half of the Business Partnership previously known as Tightlip Entertainment, not to be confused with the current entity of the same name which she is not part of.
Unfortunately for her, her legal involvement in TLE's business transactions, or lack of them by not paying people, are not mitigated by that particular version of TLE no longer existing. She's still legally liable for the Business Partnerships' debts.
Since this thread suddenly mushroomed again overnight while I was offline, it's obvious I need to state it again. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST HIS FAMILY. No ifs, buts, or wherefores.
For Rick's benefit: this does NOT cover questions of legal involvement. Your dodge reregistering your company doesn't excuse your wife from the debts incurred by your previous partnership, something I'm inclined to believe she's not very happy with you about.
Linkara
02-26-2007, 03:48 PM
He hates us more than you men.
*huggles!*
~Bev
Ah, giving me one MORE reason to hate him. *Huggles and prepares a mythic quest for Peeg's pirate crew - in search of the treasure of Olney: featuring his lawyer, his unreleased book, and the money he owes people!*
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 03:48 PM
This isn't my show by a long shot. I am merelt the topic of discusson, ridicule, and attack.
Then why come back and start posting ? You saw the thread was dropping slowly off the board and would have went to page 2. You thrive on this now. We all realize its some game to you by now. Seeing your name on CBR..with a near 15,000 post thread about you.
Odds are had you not came rushing back this thread woulda went down . Theres no excuse for you. You know you'd get lots of reads and you desire attention. You crave it. Your a moth to the flame as this industry doesn't even really care beyond these talents and the anthologfy book being produced to pay them.
You so wanna be a big Name in the industry. But you've done it in such a bad way that its not what you'll wanna be remembered for.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 03:48 PM
What's a merelt?
Good boy. Every mesage board forum needs a typo spotter.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:48 PM
As usual.
~Bev
Bev,
We're in the real world. Life problems do not realistically get solved or made better by telling every aspect of your life here. I mean, look how you and your pals trashed me, my family, and then have the audacity to make bold clims that nobody came here to defend me. The few people that did come here were insulted and made to feel exactly how you and your pals wanted.
Guarantee you that won't happen in a civil court.
And I can guarantee YOU that calling us bitches, hos, strippers and douche bags won't fly well in court, either.
Oh yeah, before I forget:
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
~Bev
J. Morgan (Bat) Neal
02-26-2007, 03:50 PM
Nope. You did, by trying to claim that you were Wiccan.
Incorrect. Fortunately, the only thing that I did was highlight your religious hypocrisy.
I am a terminally-ill invalid living on the wrong side of poverty, am ill as a result of extended childhood abuse, years of homelessness, (and some unfortunate run-ins with cultists,) AND systemic genetic defects aggravated by said past.
I'm a VH-1 behind the artist special, really.
I'm pretty sure that I can handle the karma of three times my pointing out your religious hypocrisy.
You can't intimidate me, Olney. Having a hard life has made me a strong fighter and no person alive is capable of putting fear into me.
You are not a wiccan. I stand by it. I will continue to stand by that because it is vital, as a wiccan, to make sure that people don't get a wrong opinion of my religion. Gardner talked about a time when wiccans could practice openly, when people would think well of them.
That time is now. It's every wiccan's responsibility to keep it that way. If you were a real wiccan, you wouldn't be doing as you are. You would drop the lawyer act, apologise, pay up, and conduct your business ethically and responsibly from now on.
Can I say how inspiring a person you are? Because you are. :)
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 03:52 PM
What's a merelt?
Good boy. Every mesage board forum needs a typo spotter.
And you make the job so easy!
Rick:
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
EDIT: If Rick provides the info, not only will I apologize to him, but I will leave CBR for not less than 2 weeks. OZbat, Gail...you may temp ban me for 2 weeks or longer as you choose.
~Bev
JTPencils
02-26-2007, 03:53 PM
Actually, you should seek medical help for that fungal infection. It could be botrytis blight.
Oh crap, now he's a Dr too! Is there no end to his talents!! (umm... nope... since there's no beginning, there can be no end)
TCJohnson
02-26-2007, 03:53 PM
Good boy. Every mesage board forum needs a typo spotter.
Well, I know you wanted that job since you were doing it to numerous people, but you were so inept at it.
Yonar
02-26-2007, 03:54 PM
I've skipped a few pages in the interest of catching up. I don't think I really missed much.
Here's some fun though.
Law.com offers a legal dictionary. It's free. Let's look up 'Libel.'
libel
1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. [snip]
There's a bit more to this definition, dealing with the defamation of a public (Political or government specifically) persona, proof of malice, damage of character, etc.
But let's just take a moment.
Open to lawsuits by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie.
That's right, the burden of proof is not on the accused. It is on the accuser. You have to have proof of payment, proof of actions, and proof of lies, to prove libel.
On to RO's statements.
Her popularity is not as 'solid' as you (and she) might believe. But I'm not at liberty to say anything else. I just hope she's had advice of legal counsel regarding her personal attacks towards me directly that, again, go outside the rights and legal definition of personal opinion.
[snip]
I don't really care about the rest of this with Mr Leal and all. This statement sets the terms for Libel. A personal attack which goes outside the legal definition of opinion.
Except, Let's go back to our definition. The last line..
but it must be a statement which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion.
States that any statement, presented as an opinion, is an opinion, regardless of damage or intent to damage.
For instance, I have the opinion that you are a lieing, threatening scumbag, with no proof of libel. That's my opinion. I can present it as such from here to NEW YORK TIMES if I should choose, and as long as I never in fact claim that my opinion is some sort of irrefutable fact, then I am safe as a child in his bed.
Get a lawyer, Matt! Outside of the TOTS and first tier talent ... you're first to go under the legal knife. Your actions and words have proven that you deserve the utmost attention. Slander and libel, threats and harrassment.
Slander is spoken Mr Olney. Please, read a legal dictionary, or get a lawyer.
Libel is up to you to correct, again, the burden of proof is upon you.
Again, "Gail" ... you'll have a chance to prove all that you state and imply via what you perceive as your opinion of me. CYA!
Actually, no, you have the opportunity to prove that what she's said is a lie, for instance, by producing legal records, bank statements, cheque numbers. Any of the above. That is the nature of a libel case.
I won't be, huh?
:rolleyes: Man, are you ever caught up in your 'hollywood' offers. This is EXACTLY what I just described about Tony. What is it with 'pro' writers all full-of-themselves, basking in that limelight and losing touch with civil law?
Where IS Tony's friend, Bob?
I'd appreciate a totally non-connected legal opinion on all the libel and layers of lies alleged here about me.
I'm betting either Bob knows better, he's busy, or Tony ate him. Anybody seen Bob lately? :p
Again, civil law puts the burden of this case upon you, and is shakey, because this whole forum is a forum of opinion, not an edited publication, thus, remarks posted may be argued to be intrinsically opinions, and not factual publications, nor taken as factual publications by any reasonable party.
Not true, Bev. But you're entitled to think what you believe. I'd just caution you not to let your mouth write a check the civil laws will be looking for. The lie upon lie in this thread ... coupled with all the name calling and guilt by association is mounting. 'Course, I really don't expect you to be smarter. I've had several lawyers crawing this topic and I'm assured that once the linking documentation is completed ... things will begin to happen.
Again, this is an internet forum. If you have lawyers covering this forum, which I don't know for a fact, It should be apparent that the burden of proof is upon you, opinion is opinion, no matter how much it upsets you, and that you're going to have to prove that this is a 'publication'.
Personally, I know Tony and I don't like each other. But I doidn't bring his name up in my discussions and conversations until he thought by talking about me ... it would make him a bigger person.
I've got pics of him and his son back in 2003 attending the MMC. We were happy to have them here that day. I can and will be able to disprove any negative comment about that 2003 event with fact. Pictures also say a thousand words. So Tony is free to run his mouth for as long as he's foolish enough.
A picture cannot be taken as proof of enjoyment. It's a non statement, and a non proof. A picture of someone at an event only proves their attendance, which is not in contention.
Stillwell, you're no less a scumbag. But I'll reserve my words and use action in due time to 'fix' your ass.
Again, this is all legal in a free country. As far as you posting that telephone number here... I have no problem with it. I'm just surprised it took you 'Brainiac' types so long to confirm what I had been saying was a lie and mistruth by those sttaing publicly that my business was somehow dissolved or shut down. I also have a problem with all this talk about the County or New York State Attorney's office, but my attorney will and is dealing with those bold and empty claims ... as with the legal suits filed against me. No substance. Lies. You, also, Mr. Stillwell will be dragged into a court action with your full employee actions and dates/times intact. We'll see if you
can slide by on using all that time.
Again, you have to prove they're lies. The fact that you admit to lying about previous statements to the undisolved nature of your company casts your proof in a negative light.
I have all of Jeff's emails remarking about your work, speed, and how he had to spiff and dress it up a little before sending me a jpeg to look at. We basically have an understanding, although you've clearly broken your NDA so I will be moving against you legally, Jim Taylor. Post all the supposid remarks that you claim. Be prepared to have your attorney informed and able to defend the seriousness of your civil law breaking actions.
I'm not familiar with your NDA, but most of them don't in fact extend to conversations which don't extend to the details of projects.
I'd be interested in reading your NDA, to see if it is, in and of itself, legally sound.
Again, I'm not a lawyer. I'm not much of anyone except a genious level intellect with a few minutes to look up the legal terms which you seem so fond of throwing out.
All of the posts here are your words, and my unprofessional opinion of them.
And this is a forum, not a newspaper.
Some of the statements made in this forum may be presented as facts, however, the duty of readers of a forum is to check facts themselves, due to the unedited nature of the forum.
This is a key in Libel, that a company, or a group of individuals, knowingly publish falsehoods which damage an individual.
So, since this is not a publication, it may be difficult for you to prove libel.
LP
Kurt Busiek
02-26-2007, 03:54 PM
When any civil suits from me are concerned -- I have no control over that. I merely point people that demean, libel, and threaten me to the attention of those people that enforce civil law.
He doesn't know what "civil law" is.
He thinks there are people who enforce it when you bring it to their attention, like criminal law.
What a tuber.
kdb
TCJohnson
02-26-2007, 03:55 PM
Oh crap, now he's a Dr too! Is there no end to his talents!! (umm... nope... since there's no beginning, there can be no end)
Nah, he just has a lot of experiences with fungus and molds.
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 03:55 PM
Hey, my karma's doing all right. A check AND an anonymous $20 donation came today.
Go me.
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 03:57 PM
Can I say how inspiring a person you are? Because you are. :)Thank you! <33333 ;.;
Howler
02-26-2007, 03:59 PM
You are not a wiccan. I stand by it. I will continue to stand by that because it is vital, as a wiccan, to make sure that people don't get a wrong opinion of my religion. Gardner talked about a time when wiccans could practice openly, when people would think well of them.
That time is now. It's every wiccan's responsibility to keep it that way. If you were a real wiccan, you wouldn't be doing as you are. You would drop the lawyer act, apologise, pay up, and conduct your business ethically and responsibly from now on.
Quoted for truth and my full agreement as a wiccan of 26 years this July.
Rick's actions are the furthest thing from what a real wiccan would do. For him to claim to be wiccan is a disgrace and I am thankful people can so clearly see through his lies.
JTPencils
02-26-2007, 04:00 PM
Again, I'm lawyered up
Actually, if you were "lawyered up", you'd be silent. But that's just not your way. You open your yap, and totally eliminate any chance of sounding correct, truthful, or in any fashion, believable.
Sarah Beach
02-26-2007, 04:00 PM
Sarah, you're defined. But see your physician for that rash. :p
I'm defined???
As what? By what?
Self-definition: writer and artist - with credits of both to prove that claim.
The only "rash" I actually have is from dry skin (desert climate and not drinking enough water).
Not all irritations are rashes.
You know, ricky-boy, you'd be far more interesting if your insults were smarter. But really... you are so lame at it.
Samuel Catalino
02-26-2007, 04:01 PM
I have posted Olney's meaningless threat on my message board, on MySpace, and on ComicSpace. In the same posts, I also granted blanket permission for people to repost my original warning post anywhere they like.
Clearly I am acting out of my sheer terror of the power that is Olney.
Tony
Tony,
Come on, Tony. We Italians aren't afraid of anything, except of having our olive oil taken from us! :D
Best,
Samuel
Jamie Coville
02-26-2007, 04:02 PM
Personally I think Rick came back here to threaten everybody because he now realizes this is something he not going to get away with anymore. Legal action has been taken against him and everytime he tries to continue on as usual (ie Jim's Yahoo Group, Superhero forum) his past behaviour gets brought up by somebody from here. That's why he's making big bold threats to sue everybody, what he really wants is for all you to stop so he can find more people to "hire."
And yeah, if Rick actually had a lawyer he wouldn't be here making these threats.
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 04:03 PM
Going back to an earlier post:I'm just happy to see you all getting along and having some focus to your miserible empty lives before the rug gets legally pulled out from under those of you that have passed the litmus test for libel.Here Rick, I'll make this easy for you. This site is set up for those who don't know anything about law, and/or don't understand really anything the real lawyers are saying. Their blurb: " Lawsuit Self-Help ... Step-by-Step ... On the Web Since 1997" http://www.jurisdictionary.com/Libel
A form of defamation communicated in print, as opposed to speech.
In order for a cause of action to arise for libel, the plaintiff must prove (1) the words printed were false, (2) they were communicated to others in print, and (3) the plaintiff suffered some genuine damage as a result.
See also slander.There's your litmus test for Libel. You haven't paid anybody for work done. You did disperse your company. You created another one with the same name two weeks later. You have threated people with lawsuits for years at different forums. In the last year or so you've discovered the joys of NDAs and used that to further confuse anybody trying to extract payments rightfully owed to them. Others that have never signed NDAs are still owed monies. You did hold an auction at one of your conventions, advertised to be on behalf of a charitable beneficiary, who have no record of giving you permission to use their name or logo, and likewise no record of ever receiving the proceeds of this auction from you.
These are facts. They are not lies. Therefore, they are not libel. Neither are they proprietory business secrets, covered by your NDAs. You can't stop people talking about these actions, either verbally or in print.
You're screwed, basically.Raise your hand if you've actually talked to an attorney! :)I see your hand still isn't raised there.
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 04:03 PM
That's why he's making big bold threats to sue everybody, what he really wants is for all you to stop so he can find more people to "hire."Exactly. :3
Yonar
02-26-2007, 04:07 PM
Going back to an earlier post:Here Rick, I'll make this easy for you. This site is set up for those who don't know anything about law, and/or don't understand really anything the real lawyers are saying. Their blurb: " Lawsuit Self-Help ... Step-by-Step ... On the Web Since 1997" http://www.jurisdictionary.com/There's your litmus test for Libel. You haven't paid anybody for work done. You did disperse your company. You created another one with the same name two weeks later. You have threated people with lawsuits for years at different forums. In the last year or so you've discovered the joys of NDAs and used that to further confuse anybody trying to extract payments rightfully owed to them. Others that have never signed NDAs are still owed monies. You did hold an auction at one of your conventions, advertised to be on behalf of a charitable beneficiary, who have no record of giving you permission to use their name or logo, and likewise no record of ever receiving the proceeds of this auction from you.
These are facts. They are not lies. Therefore, they are not libel. Neither are they proprietory business secrets, covered by your NDAs. You can't stop people talking about these actions, either verbally or in print.
You're screwed, basically.I see your hand still isn't raised there.
Glad to see someone else can use a legal dictionary too :)
Sarah Beach
02-26-2007, 04:08 PM
I guess Mr. Olney thinks we have memories as confusing and as short as he does if he thinks people don't remember that earlier in the thread, he admitted owing Ronee money.
You know, I might think somoene at CBR is pretending to be Olney as a joke to pass the time but his posts are far too unintentionally incomprehensible to be imitated.
Trust me, to get his style down requires a lot of unpleasant brain-warping. And even then, I think anyone here would still manage to be smarter and wittier and sharper in the process. (See Gail's "Write like Olney" thread which has now faded down some pages.)
JTPencils
02-26-2007, 04:08 PM
Jim, check your contract copy. You never followed it and your work was slow and substandard. I have the word of Jeff stating that, btw. What you did do is break your NDA and then feel confident to goose pile and insult me. Frankly, you're lightweight and won't take long to handle legally.
I wasn't about to put more work in after not being paid for work already done. "Good money after bad" sort of thing, don't you know. I still haven't heard from you HOW I broke your precious NDA. I feel confident because it's obvious that I'm not the only one you screwed over for work received. SO yeah, goosepile (wouldn't that be pig pile you dink?). Lightweight? That's true, I have lost a few pounds here and there... thanks for noticing. Won't take long to handle legally? It's been two months since your email threat of having the Invisible Man attorney contact me... so what exactly does that mean??
As for Jeff... was there another Jeff involved? Because Jeff Austin, your previous CD, denies any such comment. I'm sure he'll chime in of his own accord once he's gotten to your attempt to drag him into this. But since he and I spoke (and continue to produce work for those that actually pay), he's curious as to why you're talking out your ass again.
BTW... what was that again about "not speaking ill about anyone" you mentioned before? See... another lie, another post.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 04:09 PM
Much as I'd love to stay and mock the twit some more, I DO have dinner to make. Until I return, Matt will be quoting Twit for me. :)
~Bev
Joshua Pantalleresco
02-26-2007, 04:10 PM
And I'm telling you that your boat has a hole in it. So all the worms that you claim to have in the whole world isn't going to get you satisfaction. You don't need to be scared of me. Your, "I did work, you accepted it, you owe me. Period." schtick is lame unless you realize that without a contract ... you were simply helping out, and I have proof of that. You don't have a legal leg to stand on beyond crying and moaning the blues.
that's not true. Emails can constitute an agreement between individuals. If you talked about money in ANY of them, that can be legally binding. Especially if there is proof that you have used the work.
JP
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:11 PM
Then why come back and start posting ? You saw the thread was dropping slowly off the board and would have went to page 2. You thrive on this now. We all realize its some game to you by now. Seeing your name on CBR..with a near 15,000 post thread about you.
Nope. I don't thrive on it. And, contrary to you stating it is thought to be a game ... I know that its real life. I just see a matter that will ONLY be solved by legal actions. How else would you act in my place?
Odds are had you not came rushing back this thread woulda went down . Theres no excuse for you. You know you'd get lots of reads and you desire attention. You crave it. Your a moth to the flame as this industry doesn't even really care beyond these talents and the anthologfy book being produced to pay them.
That anthology book will never see print. If you want to take odds as a gambler, be my guest. If it does see print ... it'll be because it is spic-n-span clean of libel and such. Otherwise, it and anyone affiliated with it will need a 'show cause' to get it out of the legal pit it will most likely be in.
You so wanna be a big Name in the industry. But you've done it in such a bad way that its not what you'll wanna be remembered for.
Yeah, and you bought everything that was said about me as truth and involved yourself. Tony Isabella is a 'big' name in the industry. "Gail Simone" is a big name in the industry. Scott Shaw is a 'big' name in the industry. Mark Waid is a 'big' name in the industry. Kurt Busiek is a 'big' name in the industry.
Heck, even Paul Smith is a 'big' name in the industry. I had no control over how they sought to involve themselves. I don't know why, because none of them are allegedly owed anything by me or my company.
I get the whole stick together and mark on castle Frankenstein with torches and pitch forks to confront the monster. I'm just unaware how a series of private legal matters are thought to be decided on a message board ... ESPECIALLY this message board; A poorer abuse of ethic and morality doesn't exist elsewhere. Sarah Beach is on this because it makes her look good to her guru, Chuck Dixon. Hell, for all I know... aww, forget it.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:12 PM
that's not true. Emails can constitute an agreement between individuals. If you talked about money in ANY of them, that can be legally binding. Especially if there is proof that you have used the work.
JP
Conjecture and wishful thinking on your part, I'm told.
You broke your NDA. How you going to explain that?
That is, if you can put yourself in the place of someone that agreed and signed a legal document only to set it aside.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:13 PM
Nope. I don't thrive on it. And, contrary to you stating it is thought to be a game ... I know that its real life. I just see a matter that will ONLY be solved by legal actions. How else would you act in my place?
That anthology book will never see print. If you want to take odds as a gambler, be my guest. If it does see print ... it'll be because it is spic-n-span clean of libel and such. Otherwise, it and anyone affiliated with it will need a 'show cause' to get it out of the legal pit it will most likely be in.
Yeah, and you bought everything that was said about me as truth and involved yourself. Tony Isabella is a 'big' name in the industry. "Gail Simone" is a big name in the industry. Scott Shaw is a 'big' name in the industry. Mark Waid is a 'big' name in the industry. Kurt Busiek is a 'big' name in the industry.
Heck, even Paul Smith is a 'big' name in the industry. I had no control over how they sought to involve themselves. I don't know why, because none of them are allegedly owed anything by me or my company.
I get the whole stick together and mark on castle Frankenstein with torches and pitch forks to confront the monster. I'm just unaware how a series of private legal matters are thought to be decided on a message board ... ESPECIALLY this message board; A poorer abuse of ethic and morality doesn't exist elsewhere. Sarah Beach is on this because it makes her look good to her guru, Chuck Dixon. Hell, for all I know... aww, forget it.
Quoted, peanut
Reverend Smooth
02-26-2007, 04:13 PM
I'm just unaware how a series of private legal matters are thought to be decided on a message board
It's not a private legal matter. Get over it.
Linkara
02-26-2007, 04:13 PM
Nope. I don't thrive on it. And, contrary to you stating it is thought to be a game ... I know that its real life. I just see a matter that will ONLY be solved by legal actions. How else would you act in my place?
That anthology book will never see print. If you want to take odds as a gambler, be my guest. If it does see print ... it'll be because it is spic-n-span clean of libel and such. Otherwise, it and anyone affiliated with it will need a 'show cause' to get it out of the legal pit it will most likely be in.
Yeah, and you bought everything that was said about me as truth and involved yourself. Tony Isabella is a 'big' name in the industry. "Gail Simone" is a big name in the industry. Scott Shaw is a 'big' name in the industry. Mark Waid is a 'big' name in the industry. Kurt Busiek is a 'big' name in the industry.
Heck, even Paul Smith is a 'big' name in the industry. I had no control over how they sought to involve themselves. I don't know why, because none of them are allegedly owed anything by me or my company.
I get the whole stick together and mark on castle Frankenstein with torches and pitch forks to confront the monster. I'm just unaware how a series of private legal matters are thought to be decided on a message board ... ESPECIALLY this message board; A poorer abuse of ethic and morality doesn't exist elsewhere. Sarah Beach is on this because it makes her look good to her guru, Chuck Dixon. Hell, for all I know... aww, forget it.
...As soon as I'm done counting how many ways this post was stupid I'll start yelling at you.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:14 PM
Conjecture and wishful thinking on your part, I'm told.
You broke your NDA. How you going to explain that?
That is, if you can put yourself in the place of someone that agreed and signed a legal document only to set it aside.
Um, you didn't pay him, thus you broke the NDA first?
Or, quoted!
the4thpip
02-26-2007, 04:15 PM
Conjecture and wishful thinking on your part, I'm told.
You broke your NDA. How you going to explain that?
That is, if you can put yourself in the place of someone that agreed and signed a legal document only to set it aside.
I see you still haven't caught the rerun of the episode of Boston Legal where they cover what an NDA is for.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:15 PM
Much as I'd love to stay and mock the twit some more, I DO have dinner to make. Until I return, Matt will be quoting Twit for me. :)
~Bev
So...
You really mean that you're called "papergirl" because why? You have a paper route. You ride a bike. You expect tips. What is it?
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:16 PM
So...
You really mean that you're called "papergirl" because why? You have a paper route. You ride a bike. You expect tips. What is it?
quoted!
You are called a liar, smelly, and fat...why?
Samuel Catalino
02-26-2007, 04:16 PM
If Olney was complaining about that column, then even his basic reading skills have to be called into question. It was an exceedingly kind review, written in the spirit of not kicking someone when he was down.
It's online here:
http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/tony/back20030712.shtml
I'd have to check my files to be sure, but I think Olney was booted from my message board for the third and final time just after the column ran.
Anyway, I was not aware of the problems the other guests were having with Olney at the time I wrote the review. As I stated way earlier in this thread, my experience was a good one...through no doing of Olney's. I got to spend a wonderful weekend with my son and met some friends, old and new.
Olney (or someone) paid for our motel room, which was of poor quality, but about what I expect for such a small venue.
He had promised to pay my mileage, but, knowing he had to be losing his shirt on the show, I told him to donate that money to whatever charity that his auction was allegedly supporting. I never followed up on whether or not he ever made that donation.
Tony
And I have that review. As Tony says, it was a kind review. I still have the CBG.
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 04:17 PM
I just see a matter that will ONLY be solved by legal actions. How else would you act in my place?Oh, I dunno... maybe... PAY SOME PEOPLE??
You just might find half of those "unsolveable except via legal actions" problems suddenly go away!
The legal actions only exist because YOU made them necessary. And note, I'm not talking about the imaginary ones you keep talking about bringing down upon the heads of your naysayers and critics. I'm talking about the real ones that you've already been served with, and others on the way.
Sarah Beach
02-26-2007, 04:17 PM
Again, what part of non-of-your-business don't you understand. My talking to Ronee here in answering her posts (aimed directly at me) isn't me asking for your remarks or opinions. It also isn't me caring what you think or have to say.
What part of IN PUBLIC do you not understand? You say something in public, anyone participating in the forum has the right to comment on it, chipping in. Idiot.
If you didn't want it in public, you have available to you the simple remedy of emailing her, or PMing her.
As for not caring what I think or say -- HA! You responded, didn't you?
I swear, I begin to wonder if you have a functional brain!
Yonar
02-26-2007, 04:21 PM
Conjecture and wishful thinking on your part, I'm told.
You broke your NDA. How you going to explain that?
That is, if you can put yourself in the place of someone that agreed and signed a legal document only to set it aside.
Most NDAs are to protect buisiness secrets, that is, the nature of projects being worked upon, the characters involved, the plotlines under development, and other such actual industry knowledge.
Speaking of you, your failure to pay him, or the company's repute, unless specifically adressed in an NDA (And even then, the NDA would have to be very carefully worded to hold up in court) is not covered.
Since this is all he has done, I'd say it's up to you, again, the burden of proof upon the acusser.
We live in an 'innocent until proven guilty society, which means that your responsibility, as acusser, is to in fact have proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, that JT's words are in fact in breach of contract, at which point, your contract would have had to include the words
"I, the before named and herto signed, do solemnly swear not to speak any word in any public forum about Rick Olney, my interactions with Rick Olney, or my interactions with Tightlip Entertainment(TLE) or any of their subsidiaries. Any statement issued is in breach of this agreement."
or some slightly more well defined wording. Not only that, but the dissolution of the original Tightlip May render all NDAs and contracts null and void, due to the company which filed them being no longer an entity. You, on the other hand, as the primary participant in the company, may still be held culpable for failure of payments, and other such breaches of contract.
Thank you for playing.
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:21 PM
I see you still haven't caught the rerun of the episode of Boston Legal where they cover what an NDA is for.
No, television about legal problems are not as satisfying as sitting in an actual office with a real lawyer chewing over the various plus and minute details twice a month.
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 04:21 PM
that's not true. Emails can constitute an agreement between individuals. If you talked about money in ANY of them, that can be legally binding. Especially if there is proof that you have used the work.
Conjecture and wishful thinking on your part, I'm told.
You broke your NDA. How you going to explain that?
That is, if you can put yourself in the place of someone that agreed and signed a legal document only to set it aside.You, you mean? Because we haven't missed the fact that the only common denominator between all these cases of people chasing you for money, is the fact that you haven't paid them for work contracted. Non-payment was the "setting aside" of the signed legal document. Everything else is the flow-on effect from your own actions.
As for "Conjecture and wishful thinking"... verbal agreements can be held legally binding in a court of law. Email agreements are a permanent record and as such will hold up MUCH better in front of a judge.
Again, you're screwed.
Kurt Busiek
02-26-2007, 04:22 PM
Conjecture and wishful thinking on your part, I'm told.
Keep in mind that the crack legal minds telling him this are apparently the same imaginary minds that told him that he has no control over civil suits he brings -- that all he needs to do is point out what he considers to be demeaning statements, libel and threats to the attention of "those people that enforce civil law," and from that point on, it's out of his hands.
kdb
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:22 PM
No, television about legal problems are not as satisfying as sitting in an actual office with a real lawyer chewing over the various plus and minute details twice a month.
How would you know what sitting with a real lawyer was like? Did he help you with the case you just lost?
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:23 PM
Keep in mind that the crack legal minds telling him this are apparently the same imaginary minds that told him that he has no control over civil suits he brings -- that all he needs to do is point out what he considers to be demeaning statements, libel and threats to the attention of "those people that enforce civil law," and from that point on, it's out of his hands.
kdb
How else will they pay for their Happy Meals?
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 04:26 PM
How would you know what sitting with a real lawyer was like? Did he help you with the case you just lost?It's really unfair teasing the rest of us in that you haven't shared the details of this yet Matt. If a judgement has been made, shouldn't it be on the public record? Spill the beans already!
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:27 PM
What part of IN PUBLIC do you not understand? You say something in public, anyone participating in the forum has the right to comment on it, chipping in. Idiot.
No, I really expect that people with any kind of deciency wouldn't simply involve themselves in a personal matter. lol
If you didn't want it in public, you have available to you the simple remedy of emailing her, or PMing her.
As for not caring what I think or say -- HA! You responded, didn't you?
I swear, I begin to wonder if you have a functional brain!
Hey! Hey! You making fun of the handicapped now? :rolleyes:
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:27 PM
It's really unfair teasing the rest of us in that you haven't shared the details of this yet Matt. If a judgement has been made, shouldn't it be on the public record? Spill the beans already!
Tom Stillwell is working on verifiable info.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:27 PM
No, I really expect that people with any kind of deciency wouldn't simply involve themselves in a personal matter. lol
Hey! Hey! You making fun of the handicapped now? :rolleyes:
If it is you, I expect she is.
QUOTED!
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:28 PM
How would you know what sitting with a real lawyer was like? Did he help you with the case you just lost?
Which case was that?
Yonar
02-26-2007, 04:28 PM
We shall see...
You have already proven your closed mindset on this matter. And didn't you bring my religion into this? Nothing lower than talking and using a person's religion to keep a flamewar going. And you call yourself wiccan?
Shame. You are most likely looking at more angst on the horizon than you can handle. Karma does that.
Again, though I've said all this before. Wicca does not, in and of itself, have a concept of Karma. As wicca, as put forth by Gardner, or any other major author or publically accepted authority, wicca operates with the 'threefold law' which is inherrently different than the negative reinforcement idea of Karma, as defined by traditional Hindu Belief.
Thus, this statement is silly, and calls into question your wiccan training. I'd advise you to rethink the whole conversation, and start again.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:29 PM
No, I really expect that people with any kind of deciency wouldn't simply involve themselves in a personal matter. lol
Again....public board. What part of that do you not get, Fatty McSmelly?
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 04:30 PM
Nope. I don't thrive on it. And, contrary to you stating it is thought to be a game ... I know that its real life. I just see a matter that will ONLY be solved by legal actions. How else would you act in my place?
By letting my lawyer speak for me. By not coming online and knowing what a mole hole you've made. This is what someone does who owns a company. You let your legal people handle it and ignore it. As someone who runs a company , your obviously making said company look foolish by continueing this online flame war .
Its taking hits on a chin and replying with a simple: No Comment at present time . Then you stay freakin silent and let this run its course. But you won't. Your obviously following some backwards advice here. Who else allows a client to go on a PUBLIC message board and go thru online flame wars with various people and dislodge information ? When Ken Lay screwed over everyone in Enron I'm sure his legal team said " Shut the fuck up and don't say a word in public Ken ! " And guess what...beyond pleading Non Guilty he didn't say anything to the press.
That anthology book will never see print. If you want to take odds as a gambler, be my guest. If it does see print ... it'll be because it is spic-n-span clean of libel and such. Otherwise, it and anyone affiliated with it will need a 'show cause' to get it out of the legal pit it will most likely be in.
Kurt Busiek's already said they can take non-printed concepts and change them. See his Astro City ? That was Marvels II concepts in a way he changed them. Welcome to the publishing world. They are gonna take their concepts and get it published and really what will you do to stop them ? Beyond threatening them ? Because last I heard the editor is pretty happy with a lotta the stuff he has ready.
Yeah, and you bought everything that was said about me as truth and involved yourself. Tony Isabella is a 'big' name in the industry. "Gail Simone" is a big name in the industry. Scott Shaw is a 'big' name in the industry. Mark Waid is a 'big' name in the industry. Kurt Busiek is a 'big' name in the industry.
Heck, even Paul Smith is a 'big' name in the industry. I had no control over how they sought to involve themselves. I don't know why, because none of them are allegedly owed anything by me or my company.
Its their friends and those who are breaking in that has caused them to step in. Your hurting the business of comics to them. People work hard...Gail is Chuck's friend. You should know the industry is full of friends and when ya piss in ones apple cart you piss in a bunch more.
Once you pissed in Dixon's apple cart you started the ball rolling. More heard about it and saw your posts as legal mumbo jumbo to not pay. It was really Rich Johnstone that did you in. Once he broke the story...you were fucked. You could have stopped this ball from rolling at any point but you didn't. The creators jumped in angry at how you were trying to flaunt these legal things to not pay....and they decided to step in.
Its not to play to us Rick. Because quite frankly Mark Waid doesn't need my $ 2.99 that bad to be a great writer or play up. He saw a wrong you were commiting and stepped in to handle it. To you this is a hobby and business.....to those who work its a BUSINESS & LIFE. And ya don't fuck with peoples livelyhoods.
I get the whole stick together and mark on castle Frankenstein with torches and pitch forks to confront the monster. I'm just unaware how a series of private legal matters are thought to be decided on a message board ... ESPECIALLY this message board; A poorer abuse of ethic and morality doesn't exist elsewhere. Sarah Beach is on this because it makes her look good to her guru, Chuck Dixon. Hell, for all I know... aww, forget it.
Do not play victim. Even I said....Pay The people Rick ...and perhaps you can save this 2 months ago. Instead you wouldn't. Theres a reason all the pros and fans are mad. You hurt a lotta people...don't you think Ronee or Chuck have bills and people to feed ? Ronee has 2 kids and she could have gave them more for X-Mas odds are.
I'm sorry....its just weird that you started this entire episode and continue to ride it, and then pull " everyones down on me ! " act. It boggles my mind.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:30 PM
Which case was that?
Uh-uh...You can't pick and choose what you want to respond to.
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
Yonar
02-26-2007, 04:31 PM
forgot your [ there Matt :)
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:32 PM
Which case was that?
And how many cases HAVE you lost already?
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:32 PM
Tom Stillwell is working on verifiable info.
Fine. Let Tom handle it as he's handled everything else. He must really be a trusted employee around that office setting he 'works' at. I mean, lying to county and town clerks to get FoL's outside of the required procedure, perhaps misrepresenting himself, was it?
I know of no case. Hope you have the right Rick Olney. You're combined brain power around here on checking what you claim are 'facts' is already suspect. I never dissolved TightLip Entertainment. I merely refiled it without impunity to add two functions that we're taking on this year.
JTPencils
02-26-2007, 04:32 PM
You'll find out soon enough, JT.
"Oh my stars and garters... I'm all aquiver with trepidation!" NOT!!! Rick, you couldn't get a rise out of me with a case of Viagra... so don't bother. You are an empty threat.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:32 PM
forgot your [ there Matt :)
I was already on it. Thanks.
Typo Lad
02-26-2007, 04:34 PM
As an editor of Unscrewed, I want to say that the goal is not to "libel" Mr. Olney. The goal is to tell stories about people who got shafted, about the little guy triumphing against the bully. The monies from it will, just coincidently, go to people who alleg Mr. Olney defrauded them.
Mr. Olney, if you take issue with the theme of the book, then that says more about you than the book.
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 04:34 PM
Uh-uh...You can't pick and choose what you want to respond to.Of course he can. Until that point he's fronting the bench. Then I wanna hear him trying "This NDA you didn't sign but I'm holding you legally bound to means I don't have to tell you ANYTHING, your honor!"
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:34 PM
Fine. Let Tom handle it as he's handled everything else. He must really be a trusted employee around that office setting he 'works' at. I mean, lying to county and town clerks to get FoL's outside of the required procedure, perhaps misrepresenting himself, was it?
I know of no case. Hope you have the right Rick Olney. You're combined brain power around here on checking what you claim are 'facts' is already suspect. I never dissolved TightLip Entertainment. I merely refiled it without impunity to add two functions that we're taking on this year.
Well, considering no one HAS to lie to get that info....Hell, I did not lie when I called St Judes on you, nor when I contacted the NY Attorney General and spoke with their representative.
Why can you not see the other questions I have posted?
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
Joshua Pantalleresco
02-26-2007, 04:34 PM
Conjecture and wishful thinking on your part, I'm told.
You broke your NDA. How you going to explain that?
That is, if you can put yourself in the place of someone that agreed and signed a legal document only to set it aside.
What NDA?
Dude, I've never worked for you (and based on your rates, never will). I've been on your end of the equation though. I published a book and I HIRED people to help me, including printers and artists. And after talking to my uncle who happens to be a lawyer, here is the short version:
1. NDAs DO NOT cover payment. It's separate. You still have to pay even in the event there is some violations.
2. If you don't pay or fulfill your end by the set time on the contract, NDAs are null and void. They do not protect you from cheating people.
If I don't pay, they are under no obligations to me or under any penalties the contract states, because the contract is WORTHLESS at that point. Only if I fulfill MY end of the bargain does any NDA or other agreements even enter the equation. And that also means that I STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR WHATEVER I USED. That includes services provided. You know, webmasters and stuff?
So yeah, I've been on your side. Maybe not in a comic perspective, but I got news for you a book is not that different. Pay up or fess up. Trying to cover your ass in paper mache legalese is just pathetic. You've not only not fulfill your obligatons but You've also done some of the most revolting things I've seen by a human being. You disgust me. Like I asked you once, how do you sleep at night?
JP
Typo Lad
02-26-2007, 04:36 PM
Oh, and as for the claim that the anthology will not come out... here's what I'm going to do.
If "Unscrewed" does not have a slated date of publication by this time next year, I will get up on stage at the NY Comic Con and sing "I Feel Pretty".
You're all witnesses.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:36 PM
What NDA?
Dude, I've never worked for you (and based on your rates, never will). I've been on your end of the equation though. I published a book and I HIRED people to help me, including printers and artists. And after talking to my uncle who happens to be a lawyer, here is the short version:
1. NDAs DO NOT cover payment. It's separate. You still have to pay even in the event there is some violations.
2. If you don't pay or fulfill your end by the set time on the contract, NDAs are null and void. They do not protect you from cheating people.
If I don't pay, they are under no obligations to me or under any penalties the contract states, because the contract is WORTHLESS at that point. Only if I fulfill MY end of the bargain does any NDA or other agreements even enter the equation. And that also means that I STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR WHATEVER I USED. That includes services provided. You know, webmasters and stuff?
So yeah, I've been on your side. Maybe not in a comic perspective, but I got news for you a book is not that different. Pay up or fess up. Trying to cover your ass in paper mache legalese is just pathetic. You've not only not fulfill your obligatons but You've also done some of the most revolting things I've seen by a human being. You disgust me. Like I asked you once, how do you sleep at night?
JP
Hahahahahahahahahaha! He thinks EVERYONE signed an NDA.
What a maroon.
JTPencils
02-26-2007, 04:37 PM
I have all of Jeff's emails remarking about your work, speed, and how he had to spiff and dress it up a little before sending me a jpeg to look at. We basically have an understanding, although you've clearly broken your NDA so I will be moving against you legally, Jim Taylor. Post all the supposid remarks that you claim. Be prepared to have your attorney informed and able to defend the seriousness of your civil law breaking actions.
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!! Oh please, I can't stop... it hurts!! My sides, they're absolutely splitting! You really think for even a moment in the dim recesses of that vacuous space you call a head, that you scare or intimidate me? You haven't had the cajones to answer a single simple question put forth to you, either here in public or in private email. As to Jeff "spiff" or "dress"'ing up any work, that's what the man does, he's not a tracer, he's an embellisher... and that's how we've always worked. So no, you're not hurting my feelings there by making that statement.
Yonar
02-26-2007, 04:37 PM
Oh, and as for the claim that the anthology will not come out... here's what I'm going to do.
If "Unscrewed" does not have a slated date of publication by this time next year, I will get up on stage at the NY Comic Con and sing "I Feel Pretty".
You're all witnesses.
Are you going to wear a sundress too?!
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:37 PM
And how many cases HAVE you lost already?
Do you have proof that you had permission and/or ever made a donation to St Judes Childrens Research Hospital for the 2003 auction you held in their name?
If so, would you like me to give you Jen Joy's contact info again to pass it on to her? Upon her receiving it, I will gladly contact the NY AG to let them know. You can also provide a copy to me and I will gladly pass it on.
What about these alleged threats your family received? Any details on those?
Jen Joy, if she actually exists and works for St Judes Children Hospital is more than capable of contacting me. I have the documentation on file and in order.
Far as you bringing the NY AG's name into this -- It only strengthens my case against you, so take your best shot.
What I stated earlier about my family's safety is real. But that's on a need-to-know, and you clearly are a troll in search of a life and a bridge. So
peddle off![/QUOTE]
Kurt Busiek
02-26-2007, 04:37 PM
What NDA? Dude, I've never worked for you.
He can't even remember which people he cheated and which he's just shouting at, any more...
kdb
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 04:38 PM
I know of no case. Hope you have the right Rick Olney. You're combined brain power around here on checking what you claim are 'facts' is already suspect.I hope you're checking out any other Rick Olney's running around registering "Tightlip Entertainment" as a business name then. Somebody must be trying to cash in on your stellar reputation.I never dissolved TightLip Entertainment. I merely refiled it without impunity to add two functions that we're taking on this year.Two weeks between the dispersement of the old business, and registering the new one, without your wife's involvement this time.
Does she even know you registered it again? 'Cause she's gotta be angry with the mess you landed her in last time around... and is still legally liable for.
Typo Lad
02-26-2007, 04:39 PM
Are you going to wear a sundress too?!
...
I would, but I don't have the body for it anymore.
Curse my sweet tooth!
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:40 PM
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!! Oh please, I can't stop... it hurts!! My sides, they're absolutely splitting! You really think for even a moment in the dim recesses of that vacuous space you call a head, that you scare or intimidate me? You haven't had the cajones to answer a single simple question put forth to you, either here in public or in private email. As to Jeff "spiff" or "dress"'ing up any work, that's what the man does, he's not a tracer, he's an embellisher... and that's how we've always worked. So no, you're not hurting my feelings there by making that statement.
So per your contract, did you ever comply? Meet the multiple deadlines?
I have your emails giving my company permission. But, again, I can't comment further.
Watch out you don't cough up a lung.
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 04:41 PM
Jen Joy, if she actually exists and works for St Judes Children Hospital is more than capable of contacting me. I have the documentation on file and in order.It'd be pretty easy to stroll down to the local kinko's, get a scanned copy of their permission, and shut every single one of us up permanently on this issue then, won't it?Far as you bringing the NY AG's name into this -- It only strengthens my case against you, so take your best shot.Seeing as how they ARE the AG, they might have had a few words about his making illegal enquiries of them now, wouldn't they? Your threats and accusations are absolutely toothless.
Yonar
02-26-2007, 04:41 PM
Jen Joy, if she actually exists and works for St Judes Children Hospital is more than capable of contacting me. I have the documentation on file and in order.
Far as you bringing the NY AG's name into this -- It only strengthens my case against you, so take your best shot.
What I stated earlier about my family's safety is real. But that's on a need-to-know, and you clearly are a troll in search of a life and a bridge. So
peddle off!
Actually, if I recall correctly, it's not enough to have permission for st judes, you actually have to file it with them. If they don't have the records, yours are suspect, and it is up to you to work with them to avoid lawsuit, by providing copies of your records. Failure to do so in a reasonable manner results in lawsuit.
Which is what the NYAG's name is being indicated. You see, charity fraud is a criminal case, thus, it's up to them to collect proof, and prosecute the case. They're the acusser in this case, not Matt, since it's criminal, it's the state's responsibility to persue it, not an individuals. This is the key difference between civil and criminal law.
And I don't much care about your family so, whatever. :)
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:42 PM
I hope you're checking out any other Rick Olney's running around registering "Tightlip Entertainment" as a business name then. Somebody must be trying to cash in on your stellar reputation.Two weeks between the dispersement of the old business, and registering the new one, without your wife's involvement this time.
Does she even know you registered it again? 'Cause she's gotta be angry with the mess you landed her in last time around... and is still legally liable for.
Sorry, but I can't respond to you because you're located outside the United States of America.
And answering questions is getting tiring. Bonk any koala bears lately?
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:43 PM
Jen Joy, if she actually exists and works for St Judes Children Hospital is more than capable of contacting me. I have the documentation on file and in order.
Far as you bringing the NY AG's name into this -- It only strengthens my case against you, so take your best shot.
What I stated earlier about my family's safety is real. But that's on a need-to-know, and you clearly are a troll in search of a life and a bridge. So
peddle off![/QUOTE]
Dipshit...what makes you think she doesn't exist? She has TRIED to contact you to no avail. Ducking calls will do that. So your answer screams to me that you do not have the info.
And YOU are the one that made a claim here today that your family was threatened. Rather than contact the authorities, or offer proof, you just let a baseless claim sit there. And how does my contacting the AG in regards to unsubstantiated claims of Charity Work by you put me in danger of anything? Jen Joy is a rep for St Judes who spent two weeks digging trying to find any evidence that you contacted them at all, either for permission or if you made a donation. AFTER SHE FAILED to get a response from you, I proceeded with her express blessings.
If only your paperwork was with old Orca member rosters from 10 years ago....
Typo Lad
02-26-2007, 04:44 PM
Sorry, but I can't respond to you because you're located outside the United States of America.
...
Because...?
And answering questions is getting tiring.
I thought you weren't here to answer questions?
Bonk any koala bears lately?
Aren't you the one bemoaning uncivil behavior?
Treat others as you wish to be treated.
OzBat!
02-26-2007, 04:44 PM
Sorry, but I can't respond to you because you're located outside the United States of America.Internet doesn't quite work like that, but that's okay, I'll forgive your ignorance this time.And answering questions is getting tiring. Bonk any koala bears lately?Oooh! Nice job not insulting anybody there! Very smooth! Color me impressed!
Yonar
02-26-2007, 04:44 PM
Sorry, but I can't respond to you because you're located outside the United States of America.
And answering questions is getting tiring. Bonk any koala bears lately?
Is it your opinion that OzBat, and the person who uses said name on the online forum comonly refered to as You'll All Be Sorry or YABS, hosted by the Comic Book Resources or CBR forums, is performing bestiality, or are you presenting it as a fact?
You might want to recheck your own libel meter, Sirra!
Samuel Catalino
02-26-2007, 04:45 PM
Again....public board. What part of that do you not get, Fatty McSmelly?
Matt,
Enough with the smelly insults already. I have been in close proximity of R.O., and can testify he did not have a BO problem.
Of course, everyone has a problem now and then.
Best,
Samuel
SUPERECWFAN1
02-26-2007, 04:45 PM
Originally Posted by Rick Olney
Nope. I don't thrive on it. And, contrary to you stating it is thought to be a game ... I know that its real life. I just see a matter that will ONLY be solved by legal actions. How else would you act in my place?
By letting my lawyer speak for me. By not coming online and knowing what a mole hole you've made. This is what someone does who owns a company. You let your legal people handle it and ignore it. As someone who runs a company , your obviously making said company look foolish by continueing this online flame war .
Its taking hits on a chin and replying with a simple: No Comment at present time . Then you stay freakin silent and let this run its course. But you won't. Your obviously following some backwards advice here. Who else allows a client to go on a PUBLIC message board and go thru online flame wars with various people and dislodge information ? When Ken Lay screwed over everyone in Enron I'm sure his legal team said " Shut the fuck up and don't say a word in public Ken ! " And guess what...beyond pleading Non Guilty he didn't say anything to the press.
Quote:
That anthology book will never see print. If you want to take odds as a gambler, be my guest. If it does see print ... it'll be because it is spic-n-span clean of libel and such. Otherwise, it and anyone affiliated with it will need a 'show cause' to get it out of the legal pit it will most likely be in.
Kurt Busiek's already said they can take non-printed concepts and change them. See his Astro City ? That was Marvels II concepts in a way he changed them. Welcome to the publishing world. They are gonna take their concepts and get it published and really what will you do to stop them ? Beyond threatening them ? Because last I heard the editor is pretty happy with a lotta the stuff he has ready.
Quote:
Yeah, and you bought everything that was said about me as truth and involved yourself. Tony Isabella is a 'big' name in the industry. "Gail Simone" is a big name in the industry. Scott Shaw is a 'big' name in the industry. Mark Waid is a 'big' name in the industry. Kurt Busiek is a 'big' name in the industry.
Heck, even Paul Smith is a 'big' name in the industry. I had no control over how they sought to involve themselves. I don't know why, because none of them are allegedly owed anything by me or my company.
Its their friends and those who are breaking in that has caused them to step in. Your hurting the business of comics to them. People work hard...Gail is Chuck's friend. You should know the industry is full of friends and when ya piss in ones apple cart you piss in a bunch more.
Once you pissed in Dixon's apple cart you started the ball rolling. More heard about it and saw your posts as legal mumbo jumbo to not pay. It was really Rich Johnstone that did you in. Once he broke the story...you were fucked. You could have stopped this ball from rolling at any point but you didn't. The creators jumped in angry at how you were trying to flaunt these legal things to not pay....and they decided to step in.
Its not to play to us Rick. Because quite frankly Mark Waid doesn't need my $ 2.99 that bad to be a great writer or play up. He saw a wrong you were commiting and stepped in to handle it. To you this is a hobby and business.....to those who work its a BUSINESS & LIFE. And ya don't fuck with peoples livelyhoods.
Quote:
I get the whole stick together and mark on castle Frankenstein with torches and pitch forks to confront the monster. I'm just unaware how a series of private legal matters are thought to be decided on a message board ... ESPECIALLY this message board; A poorer abuse of ethic and morality doesn't exist elsewhere. Sarah Beach is on this because it makes her look good to her guru, Chuck Dixon. Hell, for all I know... aww, forget it.
Do not play victim. Even I said....Pay The people Rick ...and perhaps you can save this 2 months ago. Instead you wouldn't. Theres a reason all the pros and fans are mad. You hurt a lotta people...don't you think Ronee or Chuck have bills and people to feed ? Ronee has 2 kids and she could have gave them more for X-Mas odds are.
I'm sorry....its just weird that you started this entire episode and continue to ride it, and then pull " everyones down on me ! " act. It boggles my mind.
Typo Lad
02-26-2007, 04:46 PM
He said Bonk, not boink.
Be fair, Yonar.
Mr. Olney has said enough actual offensive things to people on this thread without anyone making things up.
Samuel Catalino
02-26-2007, 04:46 PM
Keep in mind that the crack legal minds telling him this are apparently the same imaginary minds that told him that he has no control over civil suits he brings -- that all he needs to do is point out what he considers to be demeaning statements, libel and threats to the attention of "those people that enforce civil law," and from that point on, it's out of his hands.
kdb
Lawyers on crack?
Well that is a new one on me. ;)
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:46 PM
Sorry, but I can't respond to you because you're located outside the United States of America.
And answering questions is getting tiring. Bonk any koala bears lately?
So per your contract, did you ever comply? Meet the multiple deadlines?
I have your emails giving my company permission. But, again, I can't comment further.
Watch out you don't cough up a lung.
More nonsense of yours quoted, you fat liar.
Your family was not threatened. Nor did you have permission from St Judes. Nor did you make a donation.
Long ago I did a 50 mile bike ride to raise money for the Audrey Prouty Cancer Center at DHMC.. Now, you could call me a liar...if you did, I would post scans of the certificate AND a tshirt I got from it.
I call you a liar. Where is any proof I am wrong?
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:47 PM
Matt,
Enough with the smelly insults already. I have been in close proximity of R.O., and can testify he did not have a BO problem.
Of course, everyone has a problem now and then.
Best,
Samuel
I choose to believe Gail.
TCJohnson
02-26-2007, 04:47 PM
...
Because...?
Because Australians are inferior human beings and communists to boot?
JTPencils
02-26-2007, 04:48 PM
Good boy. Every mesage board forum needs a typo spotter.
With you around peanut, it's a requirement. For those of us that speak and read English, it just makes things easier. You mangle the language more then a first year immigrant!
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:49 PM
With you around peanut, it's a requirement. For those of us that speak and read English, it just makes things easier. You mangle the language more then a first year immigrant!
I assure you that it is not confined to him alone. There are a few in Northern NY.
Linkara
02-26-2007, 04:49 PM
Because Australians are inferior human beings and communists to boot?
Hey now, let's not get uncivil here. We shouldn't call other nationalities inferior human beings.
Saying they're communists does that enough. ^_~
(NOTE: This is called making a joke in good humor, nor is it libel, which I'm sure Ricky will be misconstruing it as even though it wasn't directed at him)
Yonar
02-26-2007, 04:50 PM
He said Bonk, not boink.
Be fair, Yonar.
Mr. Olney has said enough actual offensive things to people on this thread without anyone making things up.
Sorry, you're right, he's actually acussing him of endangering the life of an endangered species. My bad. Still, it's a statement which, if taken as a presentation of fact, by his standards, could be libous.
Of course, in a court of law, it wouldn't hold up, but that is the strength of his own libous claims against many of those involved in this thread.
Again, sorry to misrepresent the suggestion of attacking an endangered species with the suggestion of sexually abusing said endangered species.
LP
Typo Lad
02-26-2007, 04:50 PM
Matt,
Honestly?
it's immature and sinks to a level below what I would expect.
I think the way Mr. Olney does or does not smell is irrelivant to the issue at hand. If gail, who experianced it first hand wishes to note it, that's one thing. For others to bring it in is tacky.
Focus on what he has done here: Threatened with legal action and physicaly violence, lied, blackmailed ("You'll get paid if you sign this" "i'll sue if you don't stop talking about me"), evaded answers and misrepresented himself.
In the grand scheme of thing, having funk doesn't enter the top five of his sins.
Samuel Catalino
02-26-2007, 04:50 PM
I choose to believe Gail.
Be that as it may, Matt. I actually have spent a great deal more time with R.O. than Gail, and I can testify that he did not have a B.O. problem in the weeks he spent in my home.
Just a heads up, and you know that he is no friend of mine any longer.
Best,
Samuel
Typo Lad
02-26-2007, 04:51 PM
cough
Sorry. "Alleged" sins.
Stop hitting me!
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:52 PM
Actually, if I recall correctly, it's not enough to have permission for st judes, you actually have to file it with them. If they don't have the records, yours are suspect, and it is up to you to work with them to avoid lawsuit, by providing copies of your records. Failure to do so in a reasonable manner results in lawsuit.
My ass is covered, and has been since day one. As far as your understanding this matter ... if it is a real concern, then the documentation should be in St Judes hands already.
Which is what the NYAG's name is being indicated. You see, charity fraud is a criminal case, thus, it's up to them to collect proof, and prosecute the case. They're the acusser in this case, not Matt, since it's criminal, it's the state's responsibility to persue it, not an individuals. This is the key difference between civil and criminal law.
Well, filing false complaints and instigating such an action, I'm told, is already cause for legal action by the NYAG's office. Frankly, I think Matt has used his imagination to take an inch of fact and add four foot of lies in order to make himself appear to be Perry Mason. With all the harrassing emails he's sent that have been tracked back to his IP ... I'd think he was lucky to get the early on break I gave him in not going forward on the complaint in his home county, but now I'll revive that action via my attorney.
And I don't much care about your family so, whatever. :)
That's okay. You're probably the bi-product of some liberal coupling resulting in some sort of spoiled cottage cheese lookin' mutant.
So I'm not concerned.
I'm fairly sure that each IP related to this huge matter has been obtained and will be matched to those emailed threats received. I'll make sure the authorities have warm cyber hands when you're checked. lol
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:53 PM
Matt,
Honestly?
it's immature and sinks to a level below what I would expect.
I think the way Mr. Olney does or does not smell is irrelivant to the issue at hand. If gail, who experianced it first hand wishes to note it, that's one thing. For others to bring it in is tacky.
Focus on what he has done here: Threatened with legal action and physicaly violence, lied, blackmailed ("You'll get paid if you sign this" "i'll sue if you don't stop talking about me"), evaded answers and misrepresented himself.
In the grand scheme of thing, having funk doesn't enter the top five of his sins.
Be that as it may, Matt. I actually have spent a great deal more time with R.O. than Gail, and I can testify that he did not have a B.O. problem in the weeks he spent in my home.
Just a heads up, and you know that he is no friend of mine any longer.
Best,
Samuel
Fine, fine...
Is he still a fat liar?
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:53 PM
He can't even remember which people he cheated and which he's just shouting at, any more...
kdb
No,Bubbles... as I tried to intimate -- I was asking a hypothetical.
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 04:54 PM
No,Bubbles... as I tried to intimate -- I was asking a hypothetical.
You suck at intimating.
Linkara
02-26-2007, 04:54 PM
That's okay. You're probably the bi-product of some liberal coupling resulting in some sort of spoiled cottage cheese lookin' mutant.
So I'm not concerned.
I'm fairly sure that each IP related to this huge matter has been obtained and will be matched to those emailed threats received. I'll make sure the authorities have warm cyber hands when you're checked. lol
Not only are you a liar, a terrible Wiccan, and a scheister to boot, you are also a terrible conservative. I cannot believe you would ever think doing any of this was a smart thing to do.
Kurt Busiek
02-26-2007, 04:55 PM
Lawyers on crack? Well that is a new one on me. ;)
The decent ones stick to cocaine, but, well...!
kdb
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:55 PM
Fine, fine...
Is he still a fat liar?
Samuel, I have pictures of every room of your house. I've never showed anyone. Maybe I should post them. There are no laws about that sort of thing. I know, I checked.
Far as the childish remarks about body odor... There is no subject that would appeal to two old fanboys more than commenting about body odor in general. Amazing...
Rick Olney
02-26-2007, 04:57 PM
More nonsense of yours quoted, you fat liar.
Your family was not threatened. Nor did you have permission from St Judes. Nor did you make a donation.
Long ago I did a 50 mile bike ride to raise money for the Audrey Prouty Cancer Center at DHMC.. Now, you could call me a liar...if you did, I would post scans of the certificate AND a tshirt I got from it.
I call you a liar. Where is any proof I am wrong?
Call me names all you like... You're simply wrong. I don't think proof here is anything but a waste of time.
Sarah Beach
02-26-2007, 04:57 PM
That anthology book will never see print. If you want to take odds as a gambler, be my guest. If it does see print ... it'll be because it is spic-n-span clean of libel and such. Otherwise, it and anyone affiliated with it will need a 'show cause' to get it out of the legal pit it will most likely be in.
Dude, we'll be in print before you ever will be! I'm one of the editors on the Unscrewed! book, and I've done this before. And delivered that book in 6 1/2 months from conception to in-hand. Can you say that?
No, I thought not.
And anyone who goes over to the Unscrewed! site will find that we're not intending to reference you directly in the stories at all. Why would we? It's not about you, jerk.
I'm just unaware how a series of private legal matters are thought to be decided on a message board ... ESPECIALLY this message board; A poorer abuse of ethic and morality doesn't exist elsewhere. Sarah Beach is on this because it makes her look good to her guru, Chuck Dixon. Hell, for all I know... aww, forget it.
Dear me, what am I to make of this? Really?
Calls for living up to one's contracted obligations (ie, paying people for work) is an "abuse of ethic and morality"? (By the way, peanut, that should be "abuse of ethics and morals" - but trying to teach you proper use of English is obviously a waste of time.)
Chuck isn't my "guru". He's my friend.
If I have a guru (although I prefer the term "sensei"), it's Denny O'Neil.
And "For all I know..... aww. forget it"??? What the heck are you trying to imply there? Especially after making the "claim" that I'd doing this to "look good to" Chuck? You are weird, dude. Out of your gourd.
Just for your information: I don't need to "make myself look good" to Chuck. Our friendship is pretty well grounded on a number of factors that have absolutely nothing to do with you. You, peanut (you don't deserve the moniker "sir"), are a pimple on the face of the universe. About to be lanced and cleaned away.
JTPencils
02-26-2007, 04:57 PM
How would you know what sitting with a real lawyer was like? Did he help you with the case you just lost?
btw... was there ever anything posted about that case that dimwit lost? If so, I missed it.
Papergirl
02-26-2007, 04:58 PM
So...
You really mean that you're called "papergirl" because why? You have a paper route. You ride a bike. You expect tips. What is it?
Or, perhaps, because when I created my account here, I worked as a copy editor for a daily newspaper? Just a thought. Although you wouldn't understand what an honest-to-goodness day job is, Twit.
~Bev
Typo Lad
02-26-2007, 04:59 PM
Fine, fine...
Is he still a fat liar?
His weight should have no bearing on this. No pun intended.
Samuel, I have pictures of every room of your house. I've never showed anyone. Maybe I should post them. There are no laws about that sort of thing. I know, I checked.
1. The dude defended you. Way to thank him.
2. NY state has Video Voyeur laws. This may be covered in it. Check again.
Yonar
02-26-2007, 04:59 PM
That's okay. You're probably the bi-product of some liberal coupling resulting in some sort of spoiled cottage cheese lookin' mutant.
So I'm not concerned.
I'm fairly sure that each IP related to this huge matter has been obtained and will be matched to those emailed threats received. I'll make sure the authorities have warm cyber hands when you're checked. lol
Tsk, settling into threatening complete strangers.
My name is Liston Paul Jent, I currently serve as a Senior Airman (thats E4) in the United States Air Force. The IP you find attached to me is that of a government installation.
My father was a Methodist Minister, My mother is A Teacher.
I have not, nor will I ever, contact you in any email. Thank you. I do not threaten people, nor would I ever find time to be arsed enough to threaten your family.
I just don't /care/ about them. They mean nothing to me. You mean something to me, only as an entertaining way to spend the twelve hours a day I sit in a workstation, waiting for the equipment I maintain to break.
Insulting my family, and claiming that you will have me investigated do not scare me Mr Olney. I am a man who is doing nothing wrong. I sit here, and I form educated opinions about the words which you post.
Thank you, and have a wonderful night, and if you threaten me again, I will speak to my lawyers, the ones that the United States Air Force affords me.
:)
Linkara
02-26-2007, 04:59 PM
Or, perhaps, because when I created my account here, I worked as a copy editor for a daily newspaper? Just a thought. Although you wouldn't understand what an honest-to-goodness day job is, Twit.
~Bev
Actually I always pictured it as a connection to "Read or Die," with the main character who had the nifty superpower of controlling paper. ^_^
Matt Doc Martin
02-26-2007, 05:00 PM
My ass is covered, and has been since day one. As far as your understanding this matter ... if it is a real concern, then the documentation should be in St Judes hands already.
If it were, I wouldn't have sent the complaint.
Well, filing false complaints and instigating such an action, I'm told, is already cause for legal action by the NYAG's office. Frankly, I think Matt has used his imagination to take an inch of fact and add four foot of lies in order to make himself appear to be Perry Mason.
Again, I asked, they were unable to find any information. They contacted you, but you did not respond. I gave you the info to reach here here, but you declined. It doesn't take Perry Mason. Just a brain. You used to have one.
With all the harrassing emails he's sent that have been tracked back to his IP ... I'd think he was lucky to get the early on break I gave him in not going forward on the complaint in his home county, but now I'll revive that action via my attorney.
Lessee..I asked you a question once, you insulted me in your response, gave me your email address, which I told you I would not use, and then have responded to PM's you sent me. I haven't hidden where I am. I offered to give you my address, my local police station number, and even meet you at MegaCon for my "surprise" offered.
That's okay. You're probably the bi-product of some liberal coupling resulting in some sort of spoiled cottage cheese lookin' mutant.
So I'm not concerned.
That sounds like a "Yonar"
I'm fairly sure that each IP related to this huge matter has been obtained and will be matched to those emailed threats received. I'll make sure the authorities have warm cyber hands when you're checked. lol
Again, there have been no threats issued beyond what you have POSTED HERE and on the Yahoo group. I have PDF's of all of it.
Take me to court. Please.
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