Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Reverend Smooth]

it just seemed that Rick was one against many When one hires many people and then refuses to pay them, many people are going to be peeved with one.

[Blackhawk]

Fine. It's not like I really needed to add yet another forum/list to read and participate in anyway.

Have a great life.

EDITED TO ADD: Interesting. I told Sam that you would wait til after 9 pm to "reject" me. Glad to know I can still read people.

~Bev
Who actually thought the *group* might be interesting, but now sees she was wrong.

oh,did you still want to join even after the "Rick Olney" topic is now over?

[Papergirl]

oh,did you still want to join even after the "Rick Olney" topic is now over?
Yeah, actually, I had. But now? Forget it. If this is how things are run, I have no interest. Because, seriously, the assumption you made without getting clarification from me personally is more than a tad insulting. And I have no desire to associate with someone who is going to employ such underhanded tactics.

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

The truth was allowed but there was a foul language code on the board you
apparently didn't read.

Um, there was no "foul language"

Unless calling a scumball liar a liar is "foul".

You are welcome to Rick Olney. bring lube for when he fucks you and your "group" up the ass. As I said...he is no publisher and no longer has a company. Your group has no legitimacy with him as one of your voices.

He will not come to any of his civil rials, but I will be there.

And to peanut, who keeps coming here:

You will lose your cases. And i will laugh at you.

[DocAbsurd]

He really, truly, honestly believes we're simply just a mob who was waiting for some hapless fool to walk by our whipping tree. He thinks we're just all some Hollywood conspiracy specifically designed to bring him down.

Without posting anything here from Jim's group (not that I really need to), I think I can speak freely about the general tone of Moby's posts. It was a condensed version of his typical meltdowns. He was all demure, respectful, pushing the envelope of his 'woe-is-me' persona. Really, if you didn't know him, I can see how easy it'd be to fall for his line of shyte.

But by the end of Jim's sensible deadline, his posts have even changed in format. He's gone from the typical response format to posting in all bold letters, cleverly adding quotes from previous posts in a manner he didn't seem capable of doing earlier. When he copy/pasted from here, the response was all over the place; it was impossible to follow his post. The last one was almost methodical, as if he'd found his stride.

There's a good psychological study there.

It is kinda heartening, knowing that Moby follows our every move here. No, wait; what's the word? ummmmmmm Oh yeah, creepy! Here's a term for ya, Moby: cyber-stalking. Compare and contrast with your own actions.

Oh, and please do try to stop UNSCREWED!. Really. C'mon, please?




Doc 'Cease and Desist' Absurd

[Yonar]

I just want to know, did he like my story? ;)

[Samuel Catalino]

Um, there was no "foul language"

Unless calling a scumball liar a liar is "foul".

You are welcome to Rick Olney. bring lube for when he fucks you and your "group" up the ass. As I said...he is no publisher and no longer has a company. Your group has no legitimacy with him as one of your voices.

He will not come to any of his civil rials, but I will be there.

And to peanut, who keeps coming here:

You will lose your cases. And i will laugh at you.

Matt,

I suspect you got nailed for using the four letter word which begins with a "f", not because you called R.O a liar.

Best,

Samuel

[Matt Doc Martin]

Matt,

I suspect you got nailed for using the four letter word which begins with a "f", not because you called R.O a liar.

Best,

Samuel


Did the rat bastard answer questions?

[Papergirl]

No, not really Bev...it just seemed that Rick was one against many so it was ended even before you made your application. Sorry if it seemed that way to you.

Excuse me, but I am going to call bullshit on the bolded part. I put in my "application" at 7:15 pm eastern US time. The discussion was scheduled to end at 9 pm. YOU waited until 9:01 pm to post your "rejection" of my "application" here.

Just wanted to point that out and set the record straight. I was chatting on Yahoo IM with Danny at the time, if you'd care to verify this.

~Bev
Pointing out blatant lies and BS wherever she sees them!

[JTPencils]

Oh oh, Bev's cranked up the BS Patrol wagon! All aboard!!

[Papergirl]

Oh oh, Bev's cranked up the BS Patrol wagon! All aboard!!
I just simply hate when people pull these stupid little games and then try to play all innocent. BS like that just sends me right around the bend.

~Bev

[Darediva]

So, who is Blackhawk? Another sockpuppet?

[JeffreyWKramer]

QUESTION: Does this...



protect a person's posts on a public forum? it's a new addition to Olney posts...

No. Unless you make an agreement to keep correspondence confidential - signing a contract to that effect, for example - or unless the correspondence occurs within the context of professional activities that have their own specified rules about confidentiality (healthcare, for example), you're free to do whatever you wish with correspondence directed to you.

[Danny Donovan]

It's true. Bev and I were talking when she said she was going to sign up. And like an episode of Scrubs was on Comedy Central so it was like 7'ish

:)

So much for the "new Rick" he was quite abrasive in the comments he made to me, trying to paint me as a Judas for siding with my professional friends.

[Papergirl]

So, who is Blackhawk? Another sockpuppet?

Nope. That would be Jim Main, the owner of this yahoo group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LAIROFTHEGRIMONE/). Also, he's a friend of Dick's. Need I say more?

~Bev

[JTPencils]

It's true. Bev and I were talking when she said she was going to sign up. And like an episode of Scrubs was on Comedy Central so it was like 7'ish

:)

So much for the "new Rick" he was quite abrasive in the comments he made to me, trying to paint me as a Judas for siding with my professional friends.

Sounds to me like the "new Rick" is just laying the groundwork like the "old Rick".

Playing up the "poor me" scenario... getting someone to believe him... and then (in an almost pathologically planned strategy) will take that and use it, scam it, abuse that newfound "trust". Then when (once again) he's caught... will go through his standard cycle of deny, demand, threaten, and then run for the hills.

There really is no "new Rick"... just new victims to his ways. Sadly, there's still folks out there that will give him the benefit of the doubt.. no matter HOW much evidence to the contrary there is out there.

[Gail Simone]

No, not really Bev...it just seemed that Rick was one against many so it was ended even before you made your application. Sorry if it seemed that way to you.


Yes, Rick has lied to, insulted, threatened and cheated many, so there are a lot more of us, than him, thank god.

But if you think Rick's word is good, an hour reading this thread will show you the truth.

Gail

[Yonar]

Yes, Rick has lied to, insulted, threatened and cheated many, so there are a lot more of us, than him, thank god.

But if you think Rick's word is good, an hour reading this thread will show you the truth.

Gail

Didn't you know though, Gail, Everyone here is under the sway of "Gail Simone" and thus, the entire thread is full of lies! You've convinced a great many professionals, coworkers, and impartial observers who have dealt with Rick in the past to Lie for you!:eek:

This whole thread is full of LIARS and CHEATS and STUPID SMELLY PEOPLE!

I don't know how you live with yourself!:evilangry

So many people willing to slander and lie! How could anyone read this stuff?!

This has been your surreal moment.

LP

[Darediva]

Nope. That would be Jim Main, the owner of this yahoo group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LAIROFTHEGRIMONE/). Also, he's a friend of Dick's. Need I say more?

~Bev

Nuff said, Bev. Thanks.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Yes, Rick has lied to, insulted, threatened and cheated many, so there are a lot more of us, than him, thank god.

But if you think Rick's word is good, an hour reading this thread will show you the truth.

Gail

He won't read it odds are. Because he believes that everyone just decided to jump on him. Its in how he's taking that one side and not wanting another side there told. So what can ya say....let him learn I suppose.

If he would read the thread he would know the total story. But obviously he doesn't so what can ya do ?

[Papergirl]

Yep. Let him learn. And when Dick stabs him in the back, as he has so many others, I will have no sympathy at all.

~Bev
Who is cranky tonight.

[TomStillwell]

That's how Rick has survived this long: Sucking the good nature out of other people until he leaves them a empty husk.

[Cam63]

Well there's a reason it seems like "Rick against so many". He's shafted so many, and through his own action's and words, angered even more. He's burned more bridges then Sherman heading through Atlanta. It's of his own doing. He wrote that dirge himself... so let him face the music!!

I'm not saying you wish to invite a flame war to your boards, and that's understandable. But in Rick's case... anything said to or about him, is generally, well deserved... and earned.

What JT said.

[Cam63]

Yes, Rick has lied to, insulted, threatened and cheated many, so there are a lot more of us, than him, thank god.

But if you think Rick's word is good, an hour reading this thread will show you the truth.

Gail

What she said.

[Inkpot1965]

I guess I should have sympathy with Blackhawk. Believe it or not, another artist I know warned me about working with Rick. He didn't get screwed out of money, but did mention Rick's habit of being hotheaded. Knowing this artist TOO was hotheaded, I took it with a grain of salt and leaped in. So it's not hard to imagine how Mr. Main could ignore the warning signs. Having said that......

Jim,
Ask Rick this. When I left his company, he told me a certain amount of money he owed me would be "not long in coming". I left Tightlip last April, and no money has arrived. Ask him what his excuse is for having broken his word. What excuse would be good enough? Then ask yourself why you are defending a man who [to my knowledge] has failed to pay anyone I was working with while I was in his employ. It's dangerous to go through life with your eyes shut.

[Cam63]

Olney obviously thinks artists and writers live on fresh air and water.

[Yonar]

Olney obviously thinks artists and writers live on fresh air and water.

Nah, everone knows artists are mushrooms! You keep them in the dark and feed them BS! *ducks*

[Cam63]

That would work.

[JTPencils]

Olney obviously thinks artists and writers live on fresh air and water.

Ya mean we don't?

Err... what Cam said.

[Cam63]

Ya mean we don't?

Err... what Cam said.

What JT said I said.

[EdContradictory]

I didn't say his penis. A penis. A drawing of someone with a penis and testicles for a face. He posted it to insult one of the posters.
*raises hand*

That was me.

[EdContradictory]

that just means Jim's never seen the side of him that we all have.

Unless he thinks everyone in this thread is lying, yes, he has.

[EdContradictory]

Nope. That would be Jim Main, the owner of this yahoo group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LAIROFTHEGRIMONE/). Also, he's a friend of Dick's. Need I say more?

~Bev

From his postings here, I'd have to say he's something of a douche.

[JTPencils]

Well... in all fairness... we DID offer to listen to anyone willing to defend peanut. What was that... 200 pages ago or so. It was an open ended offer.

Just sad that peanut's found another "sucker" to believe his tale of woe.

I honestly think RO could pull one over on PT Barnum!!

[DocAbsurd]

I like Jim.

He's been thru a lot in the recent past and he's come thru it all stronger than ever. He's a great person and a helluva publisher. Like I said, my main purpose for getting into that group was to track him down; before the divorce, we had discussed a number of projects and I really wanted to get working on them again.

And it looks like I will be.

Everything Moby has said or done (or tried to undo) is all over the place. And a good chunk of it right here. He's done a great job at exposing himself (there's a mental image I didn't need), so let his actions and words speak for him.

He can only avoid his history for so long . . .




Doc 'It's Catching Up' Absurd

[Linkara]

Didn't you know though, Gail, Everyone here is under the sway of "Gail Simone" and thus, the entire thread is full of lies! You've convinced a great many professionals, coworkers, and impartial observers who have dealt with Rick in the past to Lie for you!:eek:

This whole thread is full of LIARS and CHEATS and STUPID SMELLY PEOPLE!

I don't know how you live with yourself!:evilangry

So many people willing to slander and lie! How could anyone read this stuff?!

This has been your surreal moment.

LP

You know, I just realized - in some parallel universe, it was Gail who cheated Rick Olney out of all his money. How truly Bizarro. :eek:

[singoalla]

You know, I just realized - in some parallel universe, it was Gail who cheated Rick Olney out of all his money. How truly Bizarro. :eek:

That'd be the one where Hitler cured cancer and Bush was an innocent choir boy and decorated veteran?

[MacQuarrie]

No, not really Bev...it just seemed that Rick was one against many so it was ended even before you made your application. Sorry if it seemed that way to you.
Yeah, it was one against so many. Why do you suppose that is? For two months, we actively begged for somebody, anybody, to come forward and say something in Rick's defense. We searched other forums for people who might have a positive experience with him. Everybody we found turned out to have yet another story of Rick ripping them off, lying to them, or otherwise screwing them over.

It's Rick against everybody because he has never dealt straight with anybody.

[Linkara]

That'd be the one where Hitler cured cancer?

And where J-Bolt is running DC.

[MacQuarrie]

I like Jim.

He's been thru a lot in the recent past and he's come thru it all stronger than ever. He's a great person and a helluva publisher. Like I said, my main purpose for getting into that group was to track him down; before the divorce, we had discussed a number of projects and I really wanted to get working on them again.

And it looks like I will be.

Everything Moby has said or done (or tried to undo) is all over the place. And a good chunk of it right here. He's done a great job at exposing himself (there's a mental image I didn't need), so let his actions and words speak for him.

He can only avoid his history for so long . . .




Doc 'It's Catching Up' Absurd
Doc, he may be a "great guy", but his BS dealings with Bev have put me off him. And as long as he's defending Rick, he's not welcome at the Unscrewed site, if I have anything to say about it. And I will not ever buy anything he has anything to do with until I hear some apologies.

One is known by the company one chooses to keep.

[TonyIsabella]

Just some quick notes...

You can listen to my first ComicMix podcast here:

http://www.comicmix.com/news/2007/02/22/podcast-5-up-and-running

My life is nutso crazy right now. I'm working on a secret gig, a ghosting job, that is really important to me. It must be. I swore off ghosting after going through a period when I got screwed by three clients. My kitchen is being renovated. But the worst nutso crazy thing is that my daughter Kelly took a softball to the face during pre-tryout practice. She'll need some orthodontic work. Fingers crossed; there's no nerve damage.

Not to pull an Olney on you, but, if I owe you an e-mail or anything else, it will be coming as soon as humanly possible.

More details on my crazy world can be found at my message board:

http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/tony

Back on topic...

Has Olney attempted to hire anyone lately? If he has and anyone provides me with proof of this - it can be private - I'll run a warning about him on my message board and the other venues I control. I'll link to the Unscrewed website in that warning.

I would continue, but "Gail Simone," in her infinite concern for my well-being, is commanding me to get some sleep. She must be obeyed.

Tony

P.S. Someone should adapt the Tony's Online Tips spoof column Gail wrote many years back into comics form for that Unscrewed anthology. I'll gladly authorize likeness rights.

[Samuel Catalino]

Did the rat bastard answer questions?


Matt,

He has not been on the forum to answer my questions.

Best,

Samuel

[Gail Simone]

Holy crap, Tony!

I'm so sorry about your daughter! :(

I hope everything's okay, good god, that's AWFUL!

Gail

[the4thpip]

Just some quick notes...

You can listen to my first ComicMix podcast here:

http://www.comicmix.com/news/2007/02/22/podcast-5-up-and-running

My life is nutso crazy right now. I'm working on a secret gig, a ghosting job, that is really important to me. It must be. I swore off ghosting after going through a period when I got screwed by three clients. My kitchen is being renovated. But the worst nutso crazy thing is that my daughter Kelly took a softball to the face during pre-tryout practice. She'll need some orthodontic work. Fingers crossed; there's no nerve damage.

Not to pull an Olney on you, but, if I owe you an e-mail or anything else, it will be coming as soon as humanly possible.

More details on my crazy world can be found at my message board:

http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/tony

Back on topic...

Has Olney attempted to hire anyone lately? If he has and anyone provides me with proof of this - it can be private - I'll run a warning about him on my message board and the other venues I control. I'll link to the Unscrewed website in that warning.

I would continue, but "Gail Simone," in her infinite concern for my well-being, is commanding me to get some sleep. She must be obeyed.

Tony

P.S. Someone should adapt the Tony's Online Tips spoof column Gail wrote many years back into comics form for that Unscrewed anthology. I'll gladly authorize likeness rights.
Ouch. Best wishes to your daughter and the family. I hope this won't discourage her from playing, I always enjoy reading your family sports reports.

[AIPman1]

I like Jim.

He's been thru a lot in the recent past and he's come thru it all stronger than ever. He's a great person and a helluva publisher. Like I said, my main purpose for getting into that group was to track him down; before the divorce, we had discussed a number of projects and I really wanted to get working on them again.

And it looks like I will be.
Doc 'It's Catching Up' Absurd

That's good to hear...Jim Main's Zines have really taken on a whole new level of WOW since Robert Sumner began working with him. I don't know if everyone here appreciates who Jim Main is and has been for 30 some years in publishing zines. I've known him a good 20 years now. And oh yes, we've had several major disagreements. But I learned alot about how to be respected from him. That is probably the saddest part of what's going on here right now. Rick Olney is doing to Jim right now, what he did to Tim back when I had to kick Rick out of the SPA. He's using a person's kind hearted nature to drive a wedge between them and the majority of creators out there.

I'll join Tim in asking people not judge Jim too harshly. I think the best thing Jim could do was end any talk about Olney things at his group...even if he didn't outright kick the guy out of his group for things he said there...I think at least the writing is on the wall for him. I hope Jim just puts his head back into making great zines like Make Mine Monsters, Thrills and Chills, etc...and ignors this whole Olney crap from here on.

[Larry Dixon]

Obey The Gail. The Gail Is Your Friend.

Tony I hope that things go better for you and YES, get some rest; fatigue is an insidious wrecker of lives. Congrats on the cool gig and I hope we can learn about it soon. About your daughter Kelly, if there is anything we all at YABS can do you let us know.

[TomStillwell]

Just some quick notes...

You can listen to my first ComicMix podcast here:

http://www.comicmix.com/news/2007/02/22/podcast-5-up-and-running

My life is nutso crazy right now. I'm working on a secret gig, a ghosting job, that is really important to me. It must be. I swore off ghosting after going through a period when I got screwed by three clients. My kitchen is being renovated. But the worst nutso crazy thing is that my daughter Kelly took a softball to the face during pre-tryout practice. She'll need some orthodontic work. Fingers crossed; there's no nerve damage.

Not to pull an Olney on you, but, if I owe you an e-mail or anything else, it will be coming as soon as humanly possible.

More details on my crazy world can be found at my message board:

http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/tony

Back on topic...

Has Olney attempted to hire anyone lately? If he has and anyone provides me with proof of this - it can be private - I'll run a warning about him on my message board and the other venues I control. I'll link to the Unscrewed website in that warning.

I would continue, but "Gail Simone," in her infinite concern for my well-being, is commanding me to get some sleep. She must be obeyed.

Tony

P.S. Someone should adapt the Tony's Online Tips spoof column Gail wrote many years back into comics form for that Unscrewed anthology. I'll gladly authorize likeness rights.

Here's hoping for a speedy recovery for your daughter, painless renovation, and a good work experience.

[TomStillwell]

That's good to hear...Jim Main's Zines have really taken on a whole new level of WOW since Robert Sumner began working with him. I don't know if everyone here appreciates who Jim Main is and has been for 30 some years in publishing zines. I've known him a good 20 years now. And oh yes, we've had several major disagreements. But I learned alot about how to be respected from him. That is probably the saddest part of what's going on here right now. Rick Olney is doing to Jim right now, what he did to Tim back when I had to kick Rick out of the SPA. He's using a person's kind hearted nature to drive a wedge between them and the majority of creators out there.

I'll join Tim in asking people not judge Jim too harshly. I think the best thing Jim could do was end any talk about Olney things at his group...even if he didn't outright kick the guy out of his group for things he said there...I think at least the writing is on the wall for him. I hope Jim just puts his head back into making great zines like Make Mine Monsters, Thrills and Chills, etc...and ignors this whole Olney crap from here on.

I'm sorry to say that I had never heard of Jim before this.

I'm also sorry that Jim's first exposure to me was defending someone who historically has caused great harm to many people in numerous ways and to treat a friend poorly.

[Cam63]

I'm sorry about your daughter's accident, Tony.

I hope she's a fast healer.

[Blackhawk]

I'm sorry to say that I had never heard of Jim before this.

I'm also sorry that Jim's first exposure to me was defending someone who historically has caused great harm to many people in numerous ways and to treat a friend poorly.

I'm really not a bad person Tom...I guess I'm just misunderstood...I was not really trying to defend Rick, (though it may have seemed that way to many) but I wanted to try and have a Q&A session on my board with people who were going to calmly ask Rick questions that he could answer, unless he was legally bound not to.

Also, there were times I left the board to do other things...I should've stayed there through the entire session up to 9PM but I have a life outside the internet...hahahaha...but I do want to apologize to those who tried to get
in the discussion towards the end of it and didn't make it. Even though that discussion about/with Rick is over now, I'd be happy to allow new members in, if anyone here still wants too...let me know, okay people?

[Papergirl]

That's good to hear...Jim Main's Zines have really taken on a whole new level of WOW since Robert Sumner began working with him. I don't know if everyone here appreciates who Jim Main is and has been for 30 some years in publishing zines. I've known him a good 20 years now. And oh yes, we've had several major disagreements. But I learned alot about how to be respected from him. That is probably the saddest part of what's going on here right now. Rick Olney is doing to Jim right now, what he did to Tim back when I had to kick Rick out of the SPA. He's using a person's kind hearted nature to drive a wedge between them and the majority of creators out there.

I'll join Tim in asking people not judge Jim too harshly. I think the best thing Jim could do was end any talk about Olney things at his group...even if he didn't outright kick the guy out of his group for things he said there...I think at least the writing is on the wall for him. I hope Jim just puts his head back into making great zines like Make Mine Monsters, Thrills and Chills, etc...and ignors this whole Olney crap from here on.
I would agree with you, if I hadn't made it clear from the beginning that I had no wish to 'dogpile' on Dick, AND if he'd dealt more fairly with me.

He can go hang right along with his good pal Dick, as far as I'm concerned.

~Bev
Who has had ZERO sleep, is cranky from dealing with idiots all night AND is waiting for some form of an honest apology.

[the4thpip]

So, are you saying being a good person is wrong?

You might not realize it, but that kind of "playing dumb" is considered trolling on other boards. Unless of course it's John Byrne doing it on his own board or something, of course.

[Blackhawk]

I would agree with you, if I hadn't made it clear from the beginning that I had no wish to 'dogpile' on Dick, AND if he'd dealt more fairly with me.

He can go hang right along with his good pal Dick, as far as I'm concerned.

~Bev
Who has had ZERO sleep, is cranky from dealing with idiots all night AND is waiting for some form of an honest apology.

Hello again Bev....I'm honestly and sincerely sorry....okay?

[TonyIsabella]

Holy crap, Tony!

I'm so sorry about your daughter! :(

I hope everything's okay, good god, that's AWFUL!

Gail

She's a tough kid and she's handling it pretty well, but she's also a 15-year-old girl and she's upset about her appearance. She doesn't want to be in her rec league basketball team photos (Saturday) and I'm going along with that. We'll know more after the orthodontist sees her on Wednesday.

Thanks for the concern.

Tony

[TonyIsabella]

Ouch. Best wishes to your daughter and the family. I hope this won't discourage her from playing, I always enjoy reading your family sports reports.

Kelly loves sports, so that's not a concern. She's playing rec league basketball and, whether she makes the high school team or not, she'll be playing rec league softball this summer. Unfortunately, through no fault of hers, she didn't get registered in time to play CYO volleyball this spring. They didn't have the coaches to field as many teams as they normally do.

On top of the sports, Kelly is pretty much an "A" student across the board and, with advanced classes, is pulling a 4.0 average.

I'm so proud of her and, of course, my son Eddie.

Tony

[Blackhawk]

She's a tough kid and she's handling it pretty well, but she's also a 15-year-old girl and she's upset about her appearance. She doesn't want to be in her rec league basketball team photos (Saturday) and I'm going along with that. We'll know more after the orthodontist sees her on Wednesday.

Thanks for the concern.

Tony

Hey Tony, I'm sorry to hear about your daughter as well...kids and sports injuries sort of like go hand in hand. My sons have had their share.
Good luck with everything.

[TonyIsabella]

I'll join Tim in asking people not judge Jim too harshly. I think the best thing Jim could do was end any talk about Olney things at his group...even if he didn't outright kick the guy out of his group for things he said there...I think at least the writing is on the wall for him. I hope Jim just puts his head back into making great zines like Make Mine Monsters, Thrills and Chills, etc...and ignors this whole Olney crap from here on.

That's a ship that has already sailed for me and it applies to Dennis as well. I don't care how long the friendship is, they took it too far and, in doing so, they enable Olney.

I cut ties with one of my oldest friends recently because he's a mean drunk with an history of spousal abuse and drunken driving. I should have done it a decade or more ago. The final straw was when he learned of another friend's drinking problems and actually reveled in that guy's misery and struggle.

I have no idea how many years I have left on this Earth, but there aren't enough of them for me to waste time with pukes like my ex-friend. I don't blame Dennis and Jim for their past friendship with Rick, but they should either hold him accountable for his actions or dump him.

Tony

[the4thpip]

Kelly loves sports, so that's not a concern. She's playing rec league basketball and, whether she makes the high school team or not, she'll be playing rec league softball this summer. Unfortunately, through no fault of hers, she didn't get registered in time to play CYO volleyball this spring. They didn't have the coaches to field as many teams as they normally do.

On top of the sports, Kelly is pretty much an "A" student across the board and, with advanced classes, is pulling a 4.0 average.

I'm so proud of her and, of course, my son Eddie.

Tony
You should be, they sound like great kids.

[TonyIsabella]

Thanks to everyone who has expressed good wishes for me and my daughter. As the wise Seth has said, "it's a good life if you don't weaken!"

Tony

[TomStillwell]

Legal update:

I've been given some information from a person with a vested legal interest in all this. I can't give out the details yet. Just know that the wheels of justice are turning and Rick very soon will be dealing with the reprecussions of his actions.

And I'm not talking about the wheels on the Van of Justice!

[AIPman1]

That's a ship that has already sailed for me and it applies to Dennis as well. I don't care how long the friendship is, they took it too far and, in doing so, they enable Olney.

I cut ties with one of my oldest friends recently because he's a mean drunk with an history of spousal abuse and drunken driving. I should have done it a decade or more ago. The final straw was when he learned of another friend's drinking problems and actually reveled in that guy's misery and struggle.

I have no idea how many years I have left on this Earth, but there aren't enough of them for me to waste time with pukes like my ex-friend. I don't blame Dennis and Jim for their past friendship with Rick, but they should either hold him accountable for his actions or dump him.

Tony
couldn't agree more. I hope your daughter bounces back, as well. Face injuries can be a big blow to the self esteem, even if repaired and unnoticable in a few months. My best wishes for full recovery.

[SteveForbes]

I'm really not a bad person Tom...I guess I'm just misunderstood...I was not really trying to defend Rick, (though it may have seemed that way to many) but I wanted to try and have a Q&A session on my board with people who were going to calmly ask Rick questions that he could answer, unless he was legally bound not to.

Also, there were times I left the board to do other things...I should've stayed there through the entire session up to 9PM but I have a life outside the internet...hahahaha...but I do want to apologize to those who tried to get
in the discussion towards the end of it and didn't make it. Even though that discussion about/with Rick is over now, I'd be happy to allow new members in, if anyone here still wants too...let me know, okay people?


Jim, I went there, and I reasonably brought up several questions that Himself has yet to answer, one of the biggest being the name of his lawyer, as well as the reason why people wanted the name of this (so far) mythical being.

I got the usual response that was a non-answer.

I asked him to clarify his words about not being able to talk about something, but wanting to have the questions that another person put forth AND the answers of our own Doc Absurd so that Himself could think about answering them. It's really a case of him wanting to have his cake and eat it too. I can say, as an impartial observer, that he wants to have Doc's answers so that he can spin them his own way.

He's been saying that he's going to sue people for a couple of months now. To my knowledge, NO ONE has gotten ANY kind of papers.

Personally, I'd love to see him sue someone. I want him to sue me.

He says he's having a convention late this June. Well, it's late Feb now, and according to Himself, he still doesn't have a venue. Kinda hard to hold a convention without a place to have it, right? I'm only slightly surprised that he has vendors, but if he gets a guest with any kind of star power, I would be in awe and amazement.

Tony: as a young parent with nine (yes, NINE kids, and six [soon to be seven] grandkids), I know that I have a lot to yet come down the pike. I'm sorry to hear about your daughter, but it sounds like she's tough, and will come through it all right. I truly hope that everything turns out well for you and yours, and that you got some rest, man!

-llama

[DocAbsurd]

Check your email later today, Tony. I had planned on writing you, but I'll add my prayers here for a speedy recovery. Oh, I suffered some baseballs to the mush when I was in Little League, even when I was in the dug-out. Don't ask; I still have no clue how I managed it.

While I don't want my Things pinning any hopes on a future within sports, I do hope they manage to find some enjoyment in the unorganized aspect. I hated Little League, but I still like hitting the balls and running the bases (in my case, walking them).



Doc 'Bean Ball' Absurd

[Danny Donovan]

Best wishes to your daughter, Tony!

I'm glad it's nothing too serious. If she starts feeling bad just tell her how well it worked out for Marsha Brady. :)

Oh and guess what? SOMEONE *cough*rick*cough* broke the time deadline rules but who gets chastised? ME. My comment went in at 6:30 last night (which is time stamped on the group) but Rick replied this morning saying "well since the deadline is up, I can't respond to that" so I get a finger wag for not abiding by the rules of the deadline?

:mad:

[Reverend Smooth]

but I have a life outside the internet...hahahaha...Most common excuse ever when one is trying to avoid responsibility for an online promise. Only dumb people take this one seriously.

When you say you're gonna do something, you either are man enough to do it, or you give a good explanation why not, not a cheesy put down.

[SteveForbes]

Oh and guess what? SOMEONE *cough*rick*cough* broke the time deadline rules but who gets chastised? ME. My comment went in at 6:30 last night (which is time stamped on the group) but Rick replied this morning saying "well since the deadline is up, I can't respond to that" so I get a finger wag for not abiding by the rules of the deadline?

:mad:

Yeah, I saw that, Danny. I was going to call you on it, saying that you made me cry by not abiding by the rules and having it be this awesome, dramatic joke.

I was also going to defend your honor to Jim by pointing out that simple fact, but I figured that you were big enough to defend yourself, and I'd spouted off enough in the past couple of days about Himself.

You DID notice, however, that there was no chastisement where it should originally fall, right? I noticed that right away. Hell, not even an apology from Jim. And now, he wants to use your review of the GR movie in his 'zine.

Go figure.

-(dazed but not confused) llama

[Blackhawk]

Yeah, I saw that, Danny. I was going to call you on it, saying that you made me cry by not abiding by the rules and having it be this awesome, dramatic joke.

I was also going to defend your honor to Jim by pointing out that simple fact, but I figured that you were big enough to defend yourself, and I'd spouted off enough in the past couple of days about Himself.

You DID notice, however, that there was no chastisement where it should originally fall, right? I noticed that right away. Hell, not even an apology from Jim. And now, he wants to use your review of the GR movie in his 'zine.

Go figure.

-(dazed but not confused) llama


Actually I DID apologize...maybe you just didn't see it!

[Danny Donovan]

Yeah, I saw that, Danny. I was going to call you on it, saying that you made me cry by not abiding by the rules and having it be this awesome, dramatic joke.

I was also going to defend your honor to Jim by pointing out that simple fact, but I figured that you were big enough to defend yourself, and I'd spouted off enough in the past couple of days about Himself.

You DID notice, however, that there was no chastisement where it should originally fall, right? I noticed that right away. Hell, not even an apology from Jim. And now, he wants to use your review of the GR movie in his 'zine.

Go figure.

-(dazed but not confused) llama

I'm happy to offer my review of that less than stellar bit of cinema for his mag. I like Jim's work. I'm not all that angry over the slight, I needed to blow off some steam, because it always bugs me when people get away with breaking rules.

I am noticing a bit of a shift change however...

;)

[SteveForbes]

Actually I DID apologize...maybe you just didn't see it!

Nope. You said, "Okay Danny, thank you."

There's no apology there, and there's no (visible) chastisement of Rick for bringing it up past your deadline.

If the apology is implied, it's like saying "I owe you an apology." The apology is implied- you owe it to the person. But the actual words are never expressed.

-(calls it when he sees it) llama

[OzBat!]

She's a tough kid and she's handling it pretty well, but she's also a 15-year-old girl and she's upset about her appearance. She doesn't want to be in her rec league basketball team photos (Saturday) and I'm going along with that. We'll know more after the orthodontist sees her on Wednesday.My 13 year old daughter brooke had her front two top teeth smashed roughly in half by a tennis ball of all things, two years ago. Fortunately the nerves survived and we got her teeth capped, but she's really self conscious about them now. After a couple of years the colourisation now isn't quite right, but we can't get that fixed until she hits around 18 and we get permanent caps put on.

All you can do besides the physical repair job is keep encouraging her to do the things she loves doing, and not pull away from them out of fear of a repeat.

[Blackhawk]

Nope. You said, "Okay Danny, thank you."

There's no apology there, and there's no (visible) chastisement of Rick for bringing it up past your deadline.

If the apology is implied, it's like saying "I owe you an apology." The apology is implied- you owe it to the person. But the actual words are never expressed.

-(calls it when he sees it) llama

Steve-please read post #6185. Also I didn't really think each person needed a seperate apology...

[THEDOC]

Here's a bit more about Olney's continuing effort to woo fanzine creators to his side:


my reply:

Sorry But I think you are too hard on Jim. I think he just wants peace among us and severing ties with Jim is like what happened with us a few years ago. If we start splitting up like what is happening then Rick will win again.

Jim is intitled to his opinion but I will not break ties with him Ian, he's been a friend to me so has Skeeter I just think they are not informed I don't know. But ths is my opinion. I don't remember you lambasting Dennis for being Rick's friend.

[THEDOC]

and here is more:



Lance,
Where in that CBR thread is there room or fairness in allowing me the
opportunity of speaking out and owning up to any shortcomings on this
matter? Contrary to Mr. Shires spout-off, I'm here to interact with a
few friends and make myself available to answer any questions that I
have been told that I can address in conversation.

Lance, you have said a bevy of things that, because you see and read
others taking shots at me ... seems to give you some idea that YOU
have a right to talk as you have. This matter didn't concern you. It
does now. And, as such, I won't be addressing you or anyone else that
is involved in this legal matter from here on out. A few of my actions
may have damned me, but your words and actions have also damned you, sir.

Rick Olney

Well I've been damned before. If that is what it takes to stick up for those cheated so be it.
___________

[Cam63]

My 13 year old daughter brooke had her front two top teeth smashed roughly in half by a tennis ball of all things, two years ago. Fortunately the nerves survived and we got her teeth capped, but she's really self conscious about them now. After a couple of years the colourisation now isn't quite right, but we can't get that fixed until she hits around 18 and we get permanent caps put on.

All you can do besides the physical repair job is keep encouraging her to do the things she loves doing, and not pull away from them out of fear of a repeat.

Bloody hell ! Must've been a hard hitter or it was fired out of a cannon !

I wish your daughter well, Oz'.

[THEDOC]

and here is more:

I'd like to ask everyone to please leave Jim Main out of this. Jim's a helluva guy and publishing powerhouse. So he's colleagues with Moby; that just means Jim's never seen the side of him that we all have.

And I pray he never does. Jim deserves much better than that.

Moby's words speak for him. As do his subsequent deletions. And broken promises. And empty threats.

Don't let this become misplaced battle lines.

Besides, we've all got enough to worry about, being on Moby's 'short list' of legal actions. I'm worried; he's got my ISP and everything! Of course, so does my attorney . . .

I agree with Tim on this. I am reply to posts as I read them.

[Papergirl]

Hello again Bev....I'm honestly and sincerely sorry....okay?
Alright, Jim. Enough people here that I highly respect and trust have said you're a good guy. I am going to choose to believe them and accept your apology, and even offer one of my own here.

I'm not normally this bitchy. (*glares at the peanut gallery* Shush, you lot!) Let's call it a bad day all around, with this mess just being the icing on the cake. And I apologize for taking it out on you.

Next time, however, send me an e-mail and ask me for clarification before assuming. ;)

[THEDOC]

From his postings here, I'd have to say he's something of a douche.

Ya know all this slamming on Jim is really sad and Rick is watching all this and loving it. Jim Main is a great guy and you are all stalking his group just to see what Rick does. This is just the thing that keeps Rick going divide and conquer. Everyone in Jim's group except Rick are great guys and love comics, Just let him be.

[THEDOC]

Doc, he may be a "great guy", but his BS dealings with Bev have put me off him. And as long as he's defending Rick, he's not welcome at the Unscrewed site, if I have anything to say about it. And I will not ever buy anything he has anything to do with until I hear some apologies.

One is known by the company one chooses to keep.

I dont know what Jim said as i haven't read everything over there.

[Cam63]

I'm not normally this bitchy. (*glares at the peanut gallery* Shush, you lot!)

*Peanut gallery all mutter indignant scoffing noises*

[AIPman1]

Sorry But I think you are too hard on Jim. I think he just wants peace among us and severing ties with Jim is like what happened with us a few years ago. If we start splitting up like what is happening then Rick will win again.

Jim is intitled to his opinion but I will not break ties with him Ian, he's been a friend to me so has Skeeter I just think they are not informed I don't know. But ths is my opinion. I don't remember you lambasting Dennis for being Rick's friend.

I've talked with Jim in private to express my feelings on things. For the record we're OK with each other at this point, but I'm not going to participate at his Yahoo group for the time being. I don't foresee and wedges taking hold there. Jim and I have our arguments, but we respect each other. I was mad though, lol. I'm over it.

[THEDOC]

I've talked with Jim in private to express my feelings on things. For the record we're OK with each other at this point, but I'm not going to participate at his Yahoo group for the time being. I don't foresee and wedges taking hold there. Jim and I have our arguments, but we respect each other. I was mad though, lol. I'm over it.

Kewl beans. Hey will SP # 50 be out soon? :D

[MacQuarrie]

I dont know what Jim said as i haven't read everything over there.

i'm not over there. i'm talking about his posts here. he's been a dick almost from his first post.

[Samuel Catalino]

Kelly loves sports, so that's not a concern. She's playing rec league basketball and, whether she makes the high school team or not, she'll be playing rec league softball this summer. Unfortunately, through no fault of hers, she didn't get registered in time to play CYO volleyball this spring. They didn't have the coaches to field as many teams as they normally do.

On top of the sports, Kelly is pretty much an "A" student across the board and, with advanced classes, is pulling a 4.0 average.

I'm so proud of her and, of course, my son Eddie.

Tony


Tony,

I hope that your daughter has a swift recovery, and it sounds like you have some great children.

Best,

Samuel

[Sarah Beach]

Ya know all this slamming on Jim is really sad and Rick is watching all this and loving it. Jim Main is a great guy and you are all stalking his group just to see what Rick does. This is just the thing that keeps Rick going divide and conquer. Everyone in Jim's group except Rick are great guys and love comics, Just let him be.

It's one of the distrubing things about RO, Lance. He's just poisonous enough that one wants to keep track of what he is up to and what he might be saying. You know full well that he's not above trying to slam and smear others when they're not around to defend themselves. I won't go so far as tossing around his favorite word "libel" - but it is pretty much what he does.

And I say that from experience. Back in December, on his mySpace blog, he posted some rather unpleasant things about me -- which I would NOT have known of except that someone else told me of his posts. I don't have a mySpace account, I rarely visit any of the pages there, so there's no way I would have know how he was impuning my character without "following him".

Is that "stalking"? I don't know.

Sure, some here wanted to join Jim's group for the personal curiosity and shear spectacle of watching RO "in action" again. But I'd think enough others had what I'll call a "civic curiosity", and were just interested in seeing that RO did not misrepresent (too drastically) reality.

When the man goes around slinging statement of intent, saying that he's going to sue people for defamation and/or libel, especially when he's said he's going to sue specific people - well, don't they have a right to be a bit curious about what next he's going to say?

As one of his potential targets (he seems to hate me almost as much as he hates Gail), I admit that I'd rather know what he's up to, what he's saying, then find out later that he's been defaming me behind my back.

So... the reality is that the situation around Jim's private yahoo group is ambiguous. It is indeed Jim's private yahoo group. Yet he did open it up to those who were willing to abide by his rules. Which makes it, perhaps, semi-public.

If RO were just an obnoxious crackpot, I don't think anyone would bother about it. But he's not. He's a toxic, self-serving wannabe, who carries vendettas and who takes pleasure in trashing others and their relationships. He's a hazard to the community and bears watching as such.

[Blake Petit]

Hey, if you have any free time, stop by the store. Give me a call and I can give you directions. 724-941-5445

- Colin

Heh -- I didn't see this post before I left, but I actually DID go to your store on Monday! My girlfriend (who I again am nominating for the greatest girl in the universe) brought me around to some of the shops in the area for a column I wanted to write.

Seeking My Comics in Pittsburgh (http://www.comixtreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33011)

[Blake Petit]

Well, I'm home now, I've just spent the last hour or so catching up... looks like I didn't miss much, fortunately. Even the stuff with Jim seems to be mostly a misunderstanding.

I'm actually quite relieved.

[Samuel Catalino]

Alright, Jim. Enough people here that I highly respect and trust have said you're a good guy. I am going to choose to believe them and accept your apology, and even offer one of my own here.

I'm not normally this bitchy. (*glares at the peanut gallery* Shush, you lot!) Let's call it a bad day all around, with this mess just being the icing on the cake. And I apologize for taking it out on you.

Next time, however, send me an e-mail and ask me for clarification before assuming. ;)

Personally, Bev, I do not think you were bitchy or over-reacting in this instance. I asked Jim specifically if he would allow me to at least ask the question you wanted to ask since you could not ask it being that he had not allowed you access to his forum.

I don't know if Jim intentionally ignored you, but when you put time constraints on discussions, the courteous thing to do is at least to monitor (if you are setting up said rules) said discussion for time and inquiries.

At least that is IMHO.

Best,

Samuel

[Comcman]

Heh -- I didn't see this post before I left, but I actually DID go to your store on Monday! My girlfriend (who I again am nominating for the greatest girl in the universe) brought me around to some of the shops in the area for a column I wanted to write.

Seeking My Comics in Pittsburgh (http://www.comixtreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33011)

Sadly that isn't mine. There are now 5 New Dimension Comic stores in the Pittsburgh area (I'm number 5, woo hoo!).

I am down in the South Hills (Harley will know where that is). And I'm about a quarter of the size of that New Dimension (but much nicer).

And I agree with your critiques as to courteousness and stock levels. I know all about selling out of books, but not ordering any for the shelf is foolish.

[TonyIsabella]

Olney posted a message to Super Hero News advertising his next convention and claiming that TightLip was still in business. That left me no choice but to post the following message on my message board, on ComicSpace, and on MySpace:

A message to all my friends and readers...

If you are approached by an individual named Rick Olney or a representive of this man, if you are approached by Olney or anyone else representing entities known as The Mighty Mini-Con, TightLip Entertainment, or ORCA, I strongly urge you to run in the other direction. You can find more details here:

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/

Please, if you trust me, do not attempt to do business with Olney. In fact, please pass along this warning to any comics professionals, aspiring comics professionals, retailers, exhibitors, media guests, and fans you know.

Olney is not someone you want to do business with.

I'd hoped not to involve myself in this in such a public manner, but, with Olney again advertising a convention and claiming that he is still planning to publish comic books, the greater good demands I speak out.

Check out the website.

Tony Isabella

[Danny Donovan]

Rick just made a very long diatribe on the super-hero news group saying tightlip is not disolved and everyone is out to get him.

Matt, do you have ant kind of proof from the business registar?

be kind of funny if you could pull that up. Although who knows, he might have restarted it...

[AIPman1]

link to the post?

[DocAbsurd]

I wanna make an educated conjecture here:

I'm willing to bet that Jim is simply being smart about this whole fiasco and remaining neutral. So are many of my small press friends. Odd as it may sound, there's still dozens upon dozens of creators who are terrified of the word 'legal'. And though I can't show it here (I'm not breaking Jim's rules), Moby continues bandying that same exact threat, although in reference to us.

I've expressed privately great umbrage at the way he's claiming not to want attention, yet leaps at the chance to do so himself. Every comment is interpreted as directly at him, yet he seems to have no problem making snide remarks any chance he gets. One more recent post was laid out in a direct slam against the CBR forums; I was proud to see no-one took the bait. Typically, Moby doesn't think the rules apply to him.

Far as I'm concerned, Jim handled the entire situation admirably, and I've told him so. Jim's group was only supposed to be about Jim's projects and coordinating the efforts of many contributors; none of what happened this week should have happened, especially after Moby proclaimed he had 'washed' his hands of small press creators. I guess in retrospect it should have been predicted.

And Sarah's got a point; if he has the 'right' to be here watching what's said about him while he gathers his 'legal forces' (and reminding us at every opportunity), then we can claim the same right wherever he goes.




Doc 'It's a Small World But I Still Wouldn't Wanna Mow It' Absurd

[Matt Doc Martin]

Jim,
I'd like to make you aware that Ian Shires is now copying every post I
make here and pasting it to the litigious CBR thread in question. His
last post was: 13364 on Page 891.

While I realize that there are no natural laws against that action,
but I'd like to formally request that Mr. Shires and ANYONE thinking
that words here needed to be carried elsewhere be dealt with in some
manner to prevent such infringment. Thank you.

Rick Olney

If it is SOOO litigious, why haven't you actually done something about it...like you SAID you would? Make sure you go after the right folks...Jelsoft will ignore you.


Jim,
There are about a dozen people -- IF they are all unique and singular identities -- that have made it there 'mission' to harrass and libel me.

What I did was fall outside of my original payment agreement to Chuck Dixon (and now others involved in certain TLE book projects) during that span of time late last July during the death periods of my mother, a 26 year old niece of ours, and my mother-in-law. From that time on, it has been a 'game' by certain 'professional' people to pick the matter apart. People not having any life of their own have clung to the topic. And yes, I am in the midst of several very real legal battles that will play out in the court system. But again, the level of libel and the embellishing of fact to pure fantasy from the minds of a handful of CBR idiots is MY business and not that of Mr. Shires. Mr. Shires needs to get a LIFE of his own.

Rick Olney

"IF they are all unique and singular identities" Ass-munch, what leads you to believe that they would be anything BUT separate people? For starters, you have been served a few times by separate individuals. You have a couple of trials coming up. YOU SAY you have several legal battles. If you contradict yourself in the very same message, you really look like a moron.

Lance,
Where in that CBR thread is there room or fairness in allowing me the
opportunity of speaking out and owning up to any shortcomings on this
matter?

All you have to do is post it, you idiot. simple questions were asked, and you dodged actual answering. Gail asked you a simple question, and you could not answer it. Did you or did you not pay for her husband's airfare? Is Tom Stillwell lying when he says you dissolved the Tightlip company? Is the clerk lying? At any point you can speak here. The only one changing comments is YOU.

There IS NO TRUTH to Mr. Shires stating, "When an attorney general
and a charity organization have started formal legal proceedings…it's
time to back away from a situation."

Were THAT the case -- I wouldn't be here and Mr. Shires wouldn't STILL
be making untruthful and libelous statements.

Rick Olney


So Ian is lying? Am I lying when I say that I sent off complaints to the Attorney General? Do I not have a letter from said AG acknowledging receipt of my complaint and their pledge to investigate? Would you like me to send you a copy? Ask nicely! How do we tell you are lying? You speak!

Jim,
It is the later. Although, "Gail Simone" began this supportive action to derail my legal position against Chuck Dixon. Her claim is being owed by ORCA for $100 for her appearance at MMC 2003. THAT has now become a legal matter.

Rick Olney

I think you meant to typo "latter", though your poor grasp of English makes me doubt you would know the difference. If it has become a legal matter, my guess is she sued you. For you have NOT contacted her with a lawyer name yet. You remember your Happy Meal guy, yes? Or did he tell you to shut the fuck up?

Jim,
I wouldn't be involving you. Of course, I can't speak for any of the very real other people that my attorney will be dealing with at some point in time. But for me, I have no intention of involving you in anything. I assume that if a circus were to take place here in your forum ... that your forum posts would be gained by legal means without you personally.

--
Best Regards,
~Rick

Who will be contacted by your mysterious attorney? You know, the one you have been threatening to unleash for 2 months now? By the way, if you haven't noticed, I have made copied of everything here, and since I am NOT a member, I am not bound by any verbal agreement NOT to post anything. Not that you can erase your words there anyway.

Sorry. lol

I have that affect on places sometimes. lol

--
Best Regards,
~Rick
EFFECT, jackass. And you are a writer/editor? Sheesh.

Whatever you do Ian is your decision and i respect that...but I'm not going to ban you from here unless you do something REALLY upsetting to me.

We can always discuss other things like your plans for publishing and stuff.

GRIM JIM

But I was banned for saying "fuck-all". Wow. I did not know you were Amish, Jim.

Well, it is a pertinent question where the actual matter of the TOTS talents are concerned. And this started with Dixon. I guess I'm the only person that questions why "Gail Simone" and Mr. Dixon's moderator, Ms. Beach ... have made such an effort to discredit me.

--
Best Regards,
~Rick

Um..your words and actions discredit you. Anyone who points them out is just doing a public service.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Rick just made a very long diatribe on the super-hero news group saying tightlip is not disolved and everyone is out to get him.

Matt, do you have ant kind of proof from the business registar?

be kind of funny if you could pull that up. Although who knows, he might have restarted it...
Link for me, please?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Hey Rick-are you home or at work?

Also, do you have an email address for "Rusty" the artist?

GRIM JIM

Rick doesn't have a job. His wife works to pay for his upcoming civil judgments.


Jim,
I'm not as good as dealing with people that cross me. Now, breaking the civil law is another thing. Especially when my reputation is tarnished and I am libeled willing and knowingly by people.
I only brought the CBR aspect of this here so that you would be 110% aware to ward off the trolls and bullies that might file into your forum here. That is all.


--
Best Regards,
~Rick
Of course, Jim allows you, a liar, cheat, misogynist and admitted prostitute user on his forum. Goodbye property values!

I only brought it up because it became part of the CBR thread. As many probably didn't know prior, I take my religion and beliefs in how it intertwines with Christianity and nature seriously. Yet, on CBR it was a thing to be ridiculed.

Yes, CBR is also on that short list. lol Or so I'm told. Talk about that thread dying down and people now using "RO" versus my full legal name/nickname is an indicator that people are smartening up. You don't see Ms. Beach, Chuck Gibson's moderator from his website making as many remarks and "Gail" isn't spinning it as she was. But they ALL hunger to be fed. That is why Ian Shires wanted to post my posts here ... there.... feed the hysteria. Amazing.

Shires has made remarks here that are TOTALLY 100% untrue and are simply an attempt to paint this matter and myself as being in legal trouble. I am not. I repeat... I am NOT .

--
Best Regards,
~Rick

Wicca and Christianity are two different animals. And we mock you because you do not follow the tenets of either. Likewise, you are a piss-poor excuse for a "former marine". My guess, RICK OLNEY, is people don't feel like typing your full name out. I have no problem, RICK OLNEY, typing RICK OLNEY out.

And what comments did Ian make that were 100% untrue? How are they untrue? Let us know, RICK OLNEY.

Jim,
I know that you do. I recall your interest early on in my progress. I was slowed down not destroyed.
It did put me back under Doctor's care though. I guess the stress of the attacks. Even now my PC is constantly attacked. And that only began with the CBR thread's gain in strength.

--
Best Regards,
~Rick

Or surfing porn sites? And is it a psychiatrists care? Again, if you owned up, admitted the truth, and made arrangements to pay people what you owed, your life would be so easy...well, except for that whole charity fraud thing...

Unless you do have proof...in which case, you should call Jen Joy back.

Jim,
The actual MMC isn't dead. I'm just having a harder than usual time lining up a selection of guests. I have enough vendors, now need a couple guests with draw potential. 'Course, it will all work out okay.

Far as the message boards on MMC ... they'll bounce back.


Gosh...why would you have difficulty attracting guests? Hmmm...let's think on that. Plus, as soon as you list guests, I am sure they will be contacted by folks advising them to get payment up front. Hell...I may do that! I would do that for you, RICK OLNEY!

Rick-someday maybe I'll actually attend one of your shows. I haven't had much luck going to one as of late.

GRIM JIM

GET PAYMENT UP FRONT!

Jim,
You're most welcome as a member of the ORComx APA. I was sorry to read that you and Sam had to miss Megacon this year. I made a simple post regarding it and THAT ended up on that CBR thread, btw. I guess some of those loser, troll, bully types think I'd actually fly to Orlando to enact some sort of imaginary justice in Florida. ANOTHER indicator that those people have no life.

If June 23rd & 24th works for you ... come on up! I can cover your travel expenses on gas and tolls and cover your hotel and weekend package cost. Just let me know.

Rick


Why would I think you were coming to MegaCon? Oh yeah...cause you said you were, both in a private message to me and here on the CBR thread. And that you had a "surprise for me" and that "I'd be lucky to still be on my feet when you got done" and that "I may end up in the hospital". If you remember, I told you that you would not come. And you didn't. Which one of us is right? Which one spoke truth? HA!

For the record, I never threatened him. "If" I was going to take this
matter ANYWHERE but into a civil court -- I'd fly to Florida and solve
his problems for him. And I may have to in order to get his stalking,
harassment, and libel in the right legal venue.

See my last comment. And did you not tell me that you had ALREADY contacted the police and that they were on their way to arrest me? How come they know nothing of it? Oh yeah..because RICK OLNEY IS TALKING OUT HIS ASS.
Take whatever shot you think you can and legally survive a countersuit. You'll only be saving me some time and maybe a little money. You're also on the short list. Stalking, to say the least...

Um, I am not suing you, dipshit, But I am attending every court case I hear about to watch you squirm. NOT THAT I EXPECT YOU TO SHOW. What stalking? YOU kept emailing me on MySpace. YOU threatened ME. YOU copied my picture to post on your MySpace. If you had a case, you'd have brought it. So suck my ass.

IF I had threatened you ... it would've meant that I had EVERY Intention of dealing with you old style versus legally in a civil action. I called your bluff then and people that know me ... know that I don't go looking for fights, but I don't walk away either.

You came here to troll and insult. You're here for NO OTHER reason.

I came to point out blatant lies on your part. And I did. Again, I listed your threats. Would you like me to post PDF's again for you? Or, how about....

And I believe that karma somewhere will deal with you, stalker. Maybe somebody will catch up to you and break your legs for you.

It won't be me, mind you...

But anyone like yourself so intent on stalking a person as you have me will be dealt with (by me) legally in a civil court.

A physical threat (but NOT BY YOU...right...) and a baseless legal one. Sweet! And I do not fear you. At All. I will continue to work to expose you and protect creators until I am satisfied. And I am a VERY demanding person. So best of luck with your imaginary court case against me. Will the "stalking charge" be civil or criminal? You won't mind if I bring a truckload of your own damning words with me, will you? LIKE THESE VERY ONES?

Again, you know NOTHING of which you speak. A 2007 Mighty Minicon is slated for June 23rd & 24th. Details will be released as I have time.

TightLip Entertainment is indeed a legal New York state business.
--
Best Regards,
~Rick

So answer this: IS the clerk lying when he states it was dissolved by you and Barbara? And so you know, I plan on launching a satellite into space that day from my porch. I bet I have more success than you.

Sam, where my logo for TightLip Entertainment is concerned -- it was a
simple and orignal desire of mine to have something that made people
notice. TightLip has been around for a number of years, although still
not publishing ... that will change THIS year. Created by my good
friend, Benny G. Leal, an incarcerated artist in Texas.

As Benny G. Leal is exclusive to TightLip Entertainment for the forseeable future, that is a goal which Benny and I share.

--
Best Regards,
~Rick

Well, he isn't going anywhere right now. To quote Rick, lol. (God, when a guy says that so much, it makes him look 12 or gay.)

Done for now...more later.

[AIPman1]

his talent pool is inmates?

[Matt Doc Martin]

his talent pool is inmates?

So he says.

[THEDOC]

It's one of the distrubing things about RO, Lance. He's just poisonous enough that one wants to keep track of what he is up to and what he might be saying. You know full well that he's not above trying to slam and smear others when they're not around to defend themselves. I won't go so far as tossing around his favorite word "libel" - but it is pretty much what he does.

And I say that from experience. Back in December, on his mySpace blog, he posted some rather unpleasant things about me -- which I would NOT have known of except that someone else told me of his posts. I don't have a mySpace account, I rarely visit any of the pages there, so there's no way I would have know how he was impuning my character without "following him".

Is that "stalking"? I don't know.

Sure, some here wanted to join Jim's group for the personal curiosity and shear spectacle of watching RO "in action" again. But I'd think enough others had what I'll call a "civic curiosity", and were just interested in seeing that RO did not misrepresent (too drastically) reality.

When the man goes around slinging statement of intent, saying that he's going to sue people for defamation and/or libel, especially when he's said he's going to sue specific people - well, don't they have a right to be a bit curious about what next he's going to say?

As one of his potential targets (he seems to hate me almost as much as he hates Gail), I admit that I'd rather know what he's up to, what he's saying, then find out later that he's been defaming me behind my back.

So... the reality is that the situation around Jim's private yahoo group is ambiguous. It is indeed Jim's private yahoo group. Yet he did open it up to those who were willing to abide by his rules. Which makes it, perhaps, semi-public.

If RO were just an obnoxious crackpot, I don't think anyone would bother about it. But he's not. He's a toxic, self-serving wannabe, who carries vendettas and who takes pleasure in trashing others and their relationships. He's a hazard to the community and bears watching as such.


I understand Papergirl, sorry I know how Rick plays with folks so they will turn on each other and divide which he has done in the past and was quite successful at it for a while I just don't want to see that happen here.
Meant no disrespect to you or anyone here.

[THEDOC]

Olney posted a message to Super Hero News advertising his next convention and claiming that TightLip was still in business. That left me no choice but to post the following message on my message board, on ComicSpace, and on MySpace:

A message to all my friends and readers...

If you are approached by an individual named Rick Olney or a representive of this man, if you are approached by Olney or anyone else representing entities known as The Mighty Mini-Con, TightLip Entertainment, or ORCA, I strongly urge you to run in the other direction. You can find more details here:

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/

Please, if you trust me, do not attempt to do business with Olney. In fact, please pass along this warning to any comics professionals, aspiring comics professionals, retailers, exhibitors, media guests, and fans you know.

Olney is not someone you want to do business with.

I'd hoped not to involve myself in this in such a public manner, but, with Olney again advertising a convention and claiming that he is still planning to publish comic books, the greater good demands I speak out.

Check out the website.

Tony Isabella

I think you did the right thing Tony..forewarned is forearmed!

[Reverend Smooth]

I only brought it up because it became part of the CBR thread. As many probably didn't know prior, I take my religion and beliefs in how it intertwines with Christianity and nature seriously. Yet, on CBR it was a thing to be ridiculed.

Inasmuch as there is no central authority and I am not his high priestess, I will confidently say that Rick does not adhere to the tenets of Wicca as they are stated in the Rede and the Threefold Law (or the 161 laws, particularly in the matter of ethics).

Though unfortunately these things are on the internets, I will quote from the 161 Laws (Gardner will be rolling in his grave, sorry old man--):
Never boast, never threaten, never say you would wish ill of anyone.

But as a refresher, I'll repeat something that he's forgotten: 'An it harm none, do as you will.'

An it harm none, punk.

Or else what?

Since I assume that he's an eclectic (calls himself a solitary), and is basing his ostensible belief on either Cunningham (good as beginner stuff, but you need to find a real coven, mans) or Silver Ravenwolf (who isn't Wiccan anyway), the Threefold Law applies.

What's the Threefold Law, Rick? Repeat after me: what you do to others comes back to you three times.

Wicca isn't just about cute pentacles, gothy makeup, and being 'exotic' to your christian friends. It's an actual religion with actual rules and you aren't following them.

What's worse, he seems to be buying into religious syncretism between Wicca and Christianity.

Rick, the religions are incompatible. YHVH says that he is the sole god. The Shekinah need no longer apply. Wicca believes in The God and The Goddess (arguably as manifestations of the one, but they are separate in their own right and must be treated as such), the Lord and Lady, etc. There is no such thing as a Wiccan Christian. None. The two systems are not compatible, though you can certainly accept that both religions are valid. You just can't worship both at the same time.

None of this stuff is optional, ok?

So, Rick is not being mocked because he's Wiccan. It's just being pointed out that he is lying about being wiccan, by, at least in my case, actual wiccan clergy, and while I, again, have no jurisdiction whatsoever over what he does, I would hope that he'd revisit the core texts of his ostensible faith and start adhering to their actual tenets if he's going to try to cash in on the mystique.

[Danny Donovan]

Link for me, please?


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SuperHeroNews/message/14057

And just in case you can't read it without joining (you should be able to, as it's a public group until Rik (Offenbaker, a damn awesome dude, not Olney) starts getting those spam bots and privitizes it for a few days to shake them off... here it is in its entirety.

Hi,

I just thought you'd each enjoy learning that TightLip Entertainment
isn't dead. Anyone curious or in need of knowing my personal
information such as the name of my attorney and his firm shall have
that information in due order. Clearly, the libelous attempts of some
to critique a matter that can't be settled between parties involving
work-for-hire contracts and non-dsclosure agreements any other way but
in civil court, have not a clue to all facets of this, now compounded
matter.

Under the logic grasped by many … We are a small industry. Nonsense!
One person lies and several others swear to that lie. Then, the lie is
embellished further and with the help of people calling themselves
"professionals" in the comic book entertainment industry, this lie
then somehow becomes fact.

But does it?

There are aspects of this matter, even as stretched out and mishapen
as it is, that all the crappy comics journalists and comic book
reading lawyers in the world, have no idea about. How people can
assume that this is a cut and dry matter with the 'jury' lynching
every aspect of my business and personal life REMAINS to be
discovered. I make NO apologies at this time for reacting in any
regard as I have prior to this moment. This is not to say that I don't
feel obligated in some instances to apologize for some words said in
flame wars with bullies, trolls and liars. But individuals deserving
apologies, in my opinion, will get those apologies when parties
concerned with the work-for-hire compensation matter are dealt with
legally. Or they will be legally be held accountable for their words
and actions.

So to the discerned reader, I say: Be foolish. Go ahead, read what has
been said by others WITHOUT the basis of fact of the matter and make
your personal decisions based on your misplaced loyalties to said
comic book industry "professionals". But understand that until ALL the
facts are out in the public arena — NOBODY has spoken fact about this
matter involving myself, my company … which is STILL viable and
operating (another lie reported re: TightLip Entertainment being shut
down) … and those talents formerly under work-for-hire contract, and
STILL obligated by formal and legalized non-disclosure agreements.

And, the NEXT Mighty MiniCon is June 23rd & 24th in upstate New York.
Details to be released shortly here. ANY vendor previously discouraged
or having felt cheated from 2004-2005 is encouraged and invited to
contact me to resolve their complaint. I personally know of three
vendors that dropped off the earth after my 2004 MMC cancellation due
to illness. All other table monies WERE refunded at that time. But the
three vendors that walked away never contacted me. We are able to work
out either compensation or free tables and perks for this June.

In closing, TightLip Entertainment welcomes any interest from
certified vendors, potential guests, and any small press or indy
publishing entity interested in our next event.

Thank you.

Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment
www.mightyminicon.com (http://www.mightyminicon.com)

being a public group, there's no expectation that this statement is held as a private communication. Also it being something of a "press release" to speak to the public on the "lies" put against him. Again, public matter.

:p

[Matt Doc Martin]

Thank you for the invite, Danny! I love superhero stuff! I will gladly join!

[JTPencils]

Maybe Benny and RICK OLNEY will be sharing a studio area... or as the rest of the community there call it "Cellblock C"?

Also, in his first (rambling naturally) paragraph... "in due order" as far as his mysterious lawyer's contact information and charges. Does "in due order" mean "when I get around to it"... or "when hell freezes over"? I'm trying to figure out exactly what the timeframe of that statement is.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Maybe Benny and RICK OLNEY will be sharing a studio area... or as the rest of the community there call it "Cellblock C"?

Is RICK OLNEY the person sometimes referred to as "RO"?

RICK OLNEY, RICK OLNEY, RICK OLNEY, RICK OLNEY, RICK OLNEY, RICK OLNEY, RICK OLNEY!!!

[Kurt Busiek]

So to the discerned reader, I say: Be foolish.

A "discerned reader," presumably, is one you've been able to spot.

kdb

[Reverend Smooth]

I just don't get it. He's an anglo and wants to work in a field in which the written word is as important as the art. Why can't he master basic english?

Seriously, he ostensibly reads enough of it, can't he pick up the rudiments as he goes along?

[Calliope's Comics]

Maybe Benny and RICK OLNEY will be sharing a studio area... or as the rest of the community there call it "Cellblock C"?

Also, in his first (rambling naturally) paragraph... "in due order" as far as his mysterious lawyer's contact information and charges. Does "in due order" mean "when I get around to it"... or "when hell freezes over"? I'm trying to figure out exactly what the timeframe of that statement is.

In due order is the same sort of wording as the Supreme Court gave in Brown VS Board of Ed. They said that segregation should end "with all deliberate speed." I assume Rick meant something in a similar vein and you will receive the information in the same time frame as most southern states took to ending segregation, which has only been about 50 years and counting now.

[Calliope's Comics]

Had anyone seen this yet from his Yahoo blog:
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-0LMLq9s.aaVH3tgRU_45xw4-?cq=1

January 11, 2006: Small Steps

Hey there! Yeah, you!

Yeah, that's right! I've rejoined the blog community here on Yahoo after being unfairly accused of targeting a certain puke.

I figured enough time had passed and it is a nice way to stay in touch and expound upon the matters of the day and life in general.

This will be short and sweet. Far be it of me to take more of your reading time than fair in a first reincarnated blog entry. The image above is that of Ric Olie of Star Wars: Episode One fame. An action figure named after me for small steps that helped and influenced others, by George Lucas and (maybe) Rick Berman. The character of Ric Olie was played by an actor name of Ralph Brown. Ralph had a few lines in the movie but wasn't mentioned by name. Which suited me fine, as I never expected such an honor in the way of the extended thank you.

"Small Steps" is a title. If you liked this one, be here for the next one!



Poor misunderstood Rick always getting picked on by the internets. Even way back in January of 2006 before all of this erupted.

[Danny Donovan]

I just don't get it. He's an anglo and wants to work in a field in which the written word is as important as the art. Why can't he master basic english?

Seriously, he ostensibly reads enough of it, can't he pick up the rudiments as he goes along?

There's a "early 90's Image" joke in there somwhere. But I'm not going there. lol.

And you're welcome Matt! The newsletter is awesome, you get a lot of information that isn't found in most places that just cover Marvel and DC. Plus Diamond releases the "shipping this week/shipping next week" info so you know what to look forward to. :p

Good list. And again I state Rik is an awesome guy.

[JMCampbell]

http://comicsradar.com/archives/27#comments

Well, I made a minor report on the whole Rick Olney thing on my website/blog/podcast. Now Rick Olney, left me a reply saying that I will be contacted by his lawyer. You know, if he had just said please take this down, I probably would have. Now I'm just excited to find out his lawyer is. If he contacts me, I'll be happy to let everyone know the name of the lawyer.

Also, if Gail, Chuck, or Mark would be interested in doing an interview related to the Rick Olney situation as well as their comics work (I'm a fan of all three.)for my podcast, Comics Radar, please contact me.

[Danny Donovan]

Poor misunderstood Rick always getting picked on by the internets. Even way back in January of 2006 before all of this erupted.

He's been "persecuted" for almost 20 years by those lousy stinking "professionals that are anything but" that are keeping people out of comics. :p

I love how he CONSTANTLY refutes our industry has shrunk over the past 15 years or so, saying it's all a a conspiracy trying to keep people out of the business or some such.

I almost responded to that comment on Jim's group but thought better of it. Logic never goes over well with Rick and I don't want to give Jim a headache of trying to read Rick's poorly written diatribes.

Meh. Anyway.... lol. I suppose the Olney thing to do is take that debate energy and channel it into videogames and cartoons. lol.

[Calliope's Comics]

http://comicsradar.com/archives/27#comments

Well, I made a minor report on the whole Rick Olney thing on my website/blog/podcast. Now Rick Olney, left me a reply saying that I will be contacted by his lawyer. You know, if he had just said please take this down, I probably would have. Now I'm just excited to find out his lawyer is. If he contacts me, I'll be happy to let everyone know the name of the lawyer.

Also, if Gail, Chuck, or Mark would be interested in doing an interview related to the Rick Olney situation as well as their comics work (I'm a fan of all three.)for my podcast, Comics Radar, please contact me.

I added a comment on there for you. And I just noticed yours is one of the sites I was trying to advertise on today. See the comics industry is a small community

[Calliope's Comics]

He's been "persecuted" for almost 20 years by those lousy stinking "professionals that are anything but" that are keeping people out of comics. :p

I love how he CONSTANTLY refutes our industry has shrunk over the past 15 years or so, saying it's all a a conspiracy trying to keep people out of the business or some such.

I almost responded to that comment on Jim's group but thought better of it. Logic never goes over well with Rick and I don't want to give Jim a headache of trying to read Rick's poorly written diatribes.

Meh. Anyway.... lol. I suppose the Olney thing to do is take that debate energy and channel it into videogames and cartoons. lol.

Well let's see the best selling book in the 90's sold over 3 million copies. There were no books in the top 50 before the implosion of 96 that sold less than 150,000 copies. The best selling book of this year sold 300,000 copies and you can crack the top 50 if you sell 30,000 copies quite a significant drop-off.

[JTPencils]

http://comicsradar.com/archives/27#comments

Well, I made a minor report on the whole Rick Olney thing on my website/blog/podcast. Now Rick Olney, left me a reply saying that I will be contacted by his lawyer. You know, if he had just said please take this down, I probably would have. Now I'm just excited to find out his lawyer is. If he contacts me, I'll be happy to let everyone know the name of the lawyer.

Also, if Gail, Chuck, or Mark would be interested in doing an interview related to the Rick Olney situation as well as their comics work (I'm a fan of all three.)for my podcast, Comics Radar, please contact me.

I just had to reply to his rantings over on your site. Knowing RICK OLNEY (who obviously loves to see his name in print, since he can't seem to produce it himself), he'll read and respond with one of his patented bombastic spasmatic retorts, and dig his hole just a bit more.

[DocAbsurd]

Why does he find it so bloody necessary to troll groups and launch pre-emptive defenses?

He complains when we turn his re-appearances into a circus; what the feck does he expect when he announces it so boldly? He's doing it on purpose, trying to make us seem the unruly mob he claims us to be. I only wish he'd post some of the 'clamor' that's forcing him out of hiding and into explaining the current situation with TLE and the MMC. The mail must be tremendous to make him break his vow of silence so readily.




Doc 'Grabbing the Pitchforks' Absurd

[THEDOC]

http://comicsradar.com/archives/27#comments

Well, I made a minor report on the whole Rick Olney thing on my website/blog/podcast. Now Rick Olney, left me a reply saying that I will be contacted by his lawyer. You know, if he had just said please take this down, I probably would have. Now I'm just excited to find out his lawyer is. If he contacts me, I'll be happy to let everyone know the name of the lawyer.

Also, if Gail, Chuck, or Mark would be interested in doing an interview related to the Rick Olney situation as well as their comics work (I'm a fan of all three.)for my podcast, Comics Radar, please contact me.

Great article. You are now counted as those who are waiting for a visit from Rick's "lawyer"!

[Justin Carr]

http://comicsradar.com/archives/27#comments

Well, I made a minor report on the whole Rick Olney thing on my website/blog/podcast. Now Rick Olney, left me a reply saying that I will be contacted by his lawyer. You know, if he had just said please take this down, I probably would have. Now I'm just excited to find out his lawyer is. If he contacts me, I'll be happy to let everyone know the name of the lawyer.

Also, if Gail, Chuck, or Mark would be interested in doing an interview related to the Rick Olney situation as well as their comics work (I'm a fan of all three.)for my podcast, Comics Radar, please contact me.

But understand that until ALL the facts are out in the public arena — NOBODY has spoken fact about this matter involving myself, my company

Wait... Nobody has spoken fact about this? Well, there you go, folks. From the horses month, Rick has been lying and he admits to it. *G*

[NatGertler]

But individuals deserving
apologies, in my opinion, will get those apologies when parties
concerned with the work-for-hire compensation matter are dealt with
legally.Gotta love the consistency... he refuses to pay even an apology when it's due.

[singoalla]

Originally Posted by Rick Olney, Rhymes with witch
Yes, CBR is also on that short list. lol Or so I'm told. Talk about that thread dying down and people now using "RO" versus my full legal name/nickname is an indicator that people are smartening up.

I use RO because by now we all know who Rick Olney is, since 1, your name is in the title of the thread, and 2, really, how many RO/Rick Olney's waiting trial for stiffing people out of hundreds of dollars can there be out there?

We know who you are, I'll call you whatever I like. Heck, Cam calls you fuckknuckle. You should be flattered I stick to RO.


Poor misunderstood Rick always getting picked on by the internets. Even way back in January of 2006 before all of this erupted.

Paranoid much?

http://amadeo.blog.com/repository/170419/532835.p.jpg

[singoalla]

Why does he find it so bloody necessary to troll groups and launch pre-emptive defenses?


Doc 'Grabbing the Pitchforks' Absurd

C: ...I wish to complain about this parrot what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.
O: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Blue...What's,uh...What's wrong with it?
C: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
O: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
C: Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
O: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
C: The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.
O: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!
C: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up! 'Ello, Mister Polly Parrot! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if you show...(owner hits the cage)
O: There, he moved!
C: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage!
O: I never!!

[JTPencils]

Shhhhhhhh.... RICK OLNEY is in conference with his crack legal team...

http://jgmcomics.com/jt/RO-legaleagle.jpg

[Matt Doc Martin]

I wonder where he will post responses to me?

[Danny Donovan]

I have to admit I find this funny. From Rick's e-mail signature.

> ----------------------------------------------------------
> IMPORTANT WARNING: This email (and any attachments) is only intended
for the
> use of the person or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain
> information that is privileged and confidential. You, the recipient, are
> obligated to maintain it in a safe, secure and confidential manner.
> Unauthorized redisclosure or failure to maintain confidentiality may
subject
> you to federal and state penalties. If you are not the intended
recipient,
> please immediately notify us by return email, and delete this
message from
> your computer.
> ----------------------------------------------------------

When you post something on a public group, it is a public statement. regaurdless of the little note on the end of it. You can't be a public figure, and a private citizen. Just doesn't work that way. You can't hide when it suits you...

meh. again I say meh.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Originally Posted by Rick Olney, Rhymes with witch
I only brought it up because it became part of the CBR thread. As many probably didn't know prior, I take my religion and beliefs in how it intertwines with Christianity and nature seriously. Yet, on CBR it was a thing to be ridiculed.

Yes, CBR is also on that short list. lol Or so I'm told. Talk about that thread dying down and people now using "RO" versus my full legal name/nickname is an indicator that people are smartening up. You don't see Ms. Beach, Chuck Gibson's moderator from his website making as many remarks and "Gail" isn't spinning it as she was. But they ALL hunger to be fed. That is why Ian Shires wanted to post my posts here ... there.... feed the hysteria. Amazing.

Shires has made remarks here that are TOTALLY 100% untrue and are simply an attempt to paint this matter and myself as being in legal trouble. I am not. I repeat... I am NOT .

--
Best Regards,
~Rick

Chuck GIBSON!? I mean...really....what it must be like in his skull.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Just some quick notes...

You can listen to my first ComicMix podcast here:

http://www.comicmix.com/news/2007/02/22/podcast-5-up-and-running

My life is nutso crazy right now. I'm working on a secret gig, a ghosting job, that is really important to me. It must be. I swore off ghosting after going through a period when I got screwed by three clients. My kitchen is being renovated. But the worst nutso crazy thing is that my daughter Kelly took a softball to the face during pre-tryout practice. She'll need some orthodontic work. Fingers crossed; there's no nerve damage.

Not to pull an Olney on you, but, if I owe you an e-mail or anything else, it will be coming as soon as humanly possible.

More details on my crazy world can be found at my message board:

http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/tony

Back on topic...

Has Olney attempted to hire anyone lately? If he has and anyone provides me with proof of this - it can be private - I'll run a warning about him on my message board and the other venues I control. I'll link to the Unscrewed website in that warning.

I would continue, but "Gail Simone," in her infinite concern for my well-being, is commanding me to get some sleep. She must be obeyed.

Tony

P.S. Someone should adapt the Tony's Online Tips spoof column Gail wrote many years back into comics form for that Unscrewed anthology. I'll gladly authorize likeness rights.



I hope your daughter recovers quicky both in body and mind and gets back onto the field soon.

I am very intrigued by the secret project. I am trying to imagine what it could be that is so important to me and can't help but be excited by the prospects. Regardless it is always a good thing that you are writing.

[JTPencils]

Chuck GIBSON!? I mean...really....what it must be like in his skull.

My guess would be lonely. Just pure lonely.

[DocAbsurd]

I only brought it up because it became part of the CBR thread. As many probably didn't know prior, I take my religion and beliefs in how it intertwines with Christianity and nature seriously. Yet, on CBR it was a thing to be ridiculed.

Yes, CBR is also on that short list. lol Or so I'm told. Talk about that thread dying down and people now using "RO" versus my full legal name/nickname is an indicator that people are smartening up. You don't see Ms. Beach, Chuck Gibson's moderator from his website making as many remarks and "Gail" isn't spinning it as she was. But they ALL hunger to be fed. That is why Ian Shires wanted to post my posts here ... there.... feed the hysteria. Amazing.

Shires has made remarks here that are TOTALLY 100% untrue and are simply an attempt to paint this matter and myself as being in legal trouble. I am not. I repeat... I am NOT .

--
Best Regards,
~Rick

Hear that, Chuck? You're in the clear! He's been after Gibson this whole time!

Jeez, I hope Mel doesn't want to get involved with this now; I'd hate to have to watch someone have a meltdown in public. He'd just end up turning it into a circus.




Doc 'Under the Big Top' Absurd

[Cam63]

Shhhhhhhh.... RICK OLNEY is in conference with his crack legal team...

http://jgmcomics.com/jt/RO-legaleagle.jpg

Invisible lawyers are a sign the anti-Christ is on his way !

[Cam63]

When you post something on a public group, it is a public statement. regaurdless of the little note on the end of it. You can't be a public figure, and a private citizen. Just doesn't work that way. You can't hide when it suits you...

meh. again I say meh.

So say we all.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Shhhhhhhh.... RICK OLNEY is in conference with his crack legal team...

http://jgmcomics.com/jt/RO-legaleagle.jpg


Doing my best Chevy Chase from SNL "Weekend Update " : " This Just in , Rick Olney threatens to sue the internet some more. FILM AT 11 ! "











:p

[TonyIsabella]

Thanks, Bat. The top secret project is a ghosting project, the first one I have accepted in a couple years. However, the guy who hired me doesn't care if I tell people about it when it appears...even though I won't be credited on it. I may be able to talk about it a little bit sooner than that, though I wouldn't do it until the work is completed and accepted.

Tony

[bert]

Thanks, Bat. The top secret project is a ghosting project, the first one I have accepted in a couple years. However, the guy who hired me doesn't care if I tell people about it when it appears...even though I won't be credited on it. I may be able to talk about it a little bit sooner than that, though I wouldn't do it until the work is completed and accepted.

Tony

You're Greg Land's new photo-reference model, aintcha?


(I've heard you do a killer "porn-ecstasy" face, that's just perfect for Hyperion!).


:p

[Blake Petit]

Sadly that isn't mine. There are now 5 New Dimension Comic stores in the Pittsburgh area (I'm number 5, woo hoo!).

I am down in the South Hills (Harley will know where that is). And I'm about a quarter of the size of that New Dimension (but much nicer).

And I agree with your critiques as to courteousness and stock levels. I know all about selling out of books, but not ordering any for the shelf is foolish.


Heh -- I had no idea.

But I'll be certain to drop in next time I'm in town! I don't get to visit nearly as often as I'd like, but hopefully I'll be there sometime this summer.

[Sarah Beach]

Since he seems to think there's some GREAT significance to my use of RO to reference the peanut ... it's just that I got tired of looking at his very name. It has become repugnant to me in and of itself. Yes, there are certain places where it shows up, and I can tolerate looking at it - even when others type out his name (Hi, Matt!). But I choose not to do it myself for the most part.

It has nothing to do with any concern about legal action.

As for "not posting as much" - contrary to what he tries to make this thread out to be, most here do not seem particularly interested in making up horror stories about him (the reality is bad enough). We're only interested in commenting upon things actually said or done. When nothing's happening, there's not much point in commenting, nor repeating what was said before. (Besides that, I actually have a job to work at, in addition to my creative activities.)

We're WAITING, peanut. Not "dying down". Big difference.

[TomStillwell]

Rick just made a very long diatribe on the super-hero news group saying tightlip is not disolved and everyone is out to get him.

Matt, do you have ant kind of proof from the business registar?

be kind of funny if you could pull that up. Although who knows, he might have restarted it...

I'll call Monday and find out for sure. I'll see if I can get something in writing faxed to me.

[Sarah Beach]

Even though he resides in one place, might he have filed the "doing business as" elsewhere? Like in Utica or Syracuse?

Just wondering.

But yeah, since he's being so insistant that TLE isn't done, maybe he was just dissolving the partnership with his wife. Still, he would have had to refile, wouldn't he? Especially since he keeps insisting that the company is viable, and he's casting about to hire people.

After all... that is considered "doing business."

:)

[TomStillwell]

Even though he resides in one place, might he have filed the "doing business as" elsewhere? Like in Utica or Syracuse?

Just wondering.

But yeah, since he's being so insistant that TLE isn't done, maybe he was just dissolving the partnership with his wife. Still, he would have had to refile, wouldn't he? Especially since he keeps insisting that the company is viable, and he's casting about to hire people.

After all... that is considered "doing business."

:)

Then I'll just cast a larger net.

I have the phone numbers to every clerk's office in upstate New York. I'll be busy with my cell phone during lunch on Monday. The Freedom of Information Act is a wonderful thing.

Rick, here's a clue for you about me. Every time you post something that can factually be disproved , I'm on it. Your lies are like shadows and I'm a spotlight.

I'm sure the Attorney General would be interested to find out if Tightlip has been reformed. As would the person I just talked to the other day with a real vested interested in finding out such information.

(another lie reported re: TightLip Entertainment being shut
down)

No one ever said it was shut down. The clerk in Herkimer County stated that you and your wife dissolved it in person. On the day you were served. January 11th, I believe.

Rick, you keep on posting, keep trying to maintain that facade you call a life. Well see how it fares against the glare of a pissed off judge galled by your actions and total lack of remorse.

[Danny Donovan]

You know my dear Sarah, I think ol' Rick is fixated on you and Bev. :p Perhaps Gail too. Seems he can't go one post without mentioning one of you... Perhaps he has surprises abound!

Tom, sounds good. I couldn't remember if it was you or Matt that got the info on the dissolution of Tightlip.

I think what he was talking about here was that a few people (*cough*JTtheheartattack*cough*) have come up and asked if there has been any movement on the cases, because the thread had quietend down and I suppose he didn't see any post from Gail in awhile (Gee, I wonder why, probably because she's got DC books due?) and thus took that oppertunity to say that anything that came up in the meantime was people just looking for stuff to discuss.

Rick doesn't seem to understand that not everyone spends every waking moment online. The internet just ain' that interesting. We do have lives, (such as they are.) and careers (again, such as they are) that require a lot of man hours. I have felt bad for not having time to check on the unscrewed site in a few days but I've been so busy.

At this point, I don't think there are going to be many people that are going to fall for Rick's BS again. Tony's on the case, he's posted his warning on his Myspace, on the Super-hero newsletter, and I'm sure on his site.

Unscrewed is going to be a big one for a blow against people like Rick, not just Rick himself... But of course, like everything it's all about him. He's being victimized by "bullies" and by "trolls"...

Thoseof us that worked for him were victimized.

[JTPencils]

I think what he was talking about here was that a few people (*cough*JTtheheartattack*cough*) have come up and asked if there has been any movement on the cases,

Why is it that whenever I think about that moment... I want to cackle manically like Frank Gorshin's Riddler?? How I wish there were a sound option here!!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Why is it that whenever I think about that moment... I want to cackle manically like Frank Gorshin's Riddler?? How I wish there were a sound option here!!

May I cause him a coronary?

Please?


RICK: Eat a bowl of Crisco. Make sure you eat lots of bacon as well. I'd say don't bathe, but my understanding is that isn't a big thing for you.

[TonyIsabella]

At this point, I don't think there are going to be many people that are going to fall for Rick's BS again. Tony's on the case, he's posted his warning on his Myspace, on the Super-hero newsletter, and I'm sure on his site.

I posted it to my own message board and also to ComicSpace. Olney's posting to Super Hero News demanded such action.

Anyone and everyone can feel free to repost what I posted on my board, which is the same message I posted everywhere else. The fact that I'm getting thank you notes from people who has never heard of Olney prior to my warning makes me think the word has not yet been spread enough.

As Gail knows, I'm not thrilled with some of the ways in which folks have expressed their anger with Olney. When the facts are on your side, you hammer the facts. The facts are so completely on our side that we don't need the sophomoric insults.

But I'm 100% behind spreading the word.

Tony

[OzBat!]

Huh. I haven't posted anything to Superhero News in years, but I'm still a member! Let's see if Rick can handle a little specific question!

[Danny Donovan]

Huh. I haven't posted anything to Superhero News in years, but I'm still a member! Let's see if Rick can handle a little specific question!

Hey Oz, the group is only for posting news, and press releases. Let's not turn it into a flamewar thing. Rik Offenbaker is a really good guy and I'd hate to see his newsletter that's run for so long to get sidetracked by someone like Olney.

However, if you want to post an innocuous thing that mentions Unscrewed, I guess that could be seen as "news" lol. I just hate to see Rik get punished for Olney being a tool.

[OzBat!]

No personal attacks. I replied to his post, asking if he and his wife dispersed the business partnership "tightlip entertainment" on 11 January 2007, and if so, what that meant for all his contracts and NDAs. And if he'd since reregistered anywhere else.

That's it. No digs. No personal attacks. No aspersions of his character. A simple question of legal historical fact.

It takes a while for posts to go up, I'm guessing it's moderated these days. If they don't like it, they won't allow it through, no possible flamewars. No drama.

[Inkpot1965]

It amuses me that Rick is still talking about putting out a book. That can never be. The technical excuse he used not to pay us [he made a big to-do of throwing that in Jim Taylor's and my own face] was that the contract specified he doesn't pay until the book is finished. Once Rick puts out a book, he owes a LOT of people a LOT of money. So Rick can bluster all day long, but he will NOT put out a single book. It's the only cork holding back the flood of debt he's racked up....at least until he has his day in court.

Hey, RICK OLNEY....Can you say Catch-22?

[Danny Donovan]

No personal attacks. I replied to his post, asking if he and his wife dispersed the business partnership "tightlip entertainment" on 11 January 2007, and if so, what that meant for all his contracts and NDAs. And if he'd since reregistered anywhere else.

That's it. No digs. No personal attacks. No aspersions of his character. A simple question of legal historical fact.

It takes a while for posts to go up, I'm guessing it's moderated these days. If they don't like it, they won't allow it through, no possible flamewars. No drama.

It goes moderated every once and awhile when they start getting the bot spam for Viagra and porn going through. But usually it's about 2 weeks to let the bots realize its a closed list, and it goes back to being unmoderated.

Rik probably also put it up when Olney started posting to head off any possible "Gail Simmone is mean to me" posts. :p

[JTPencils]

No personal attacks. I replied to his post, asking if he and his wife dispersed the business partnership "tightlip entertainment" on 11 January 2007, and if so, what that meant for all his contracts and NDAs. And if he'd since reregistered anywhere else.

That's it. No digs. No personal attacks. No aspersions of his character. A simple question of legal historical fact.

It takes a while for posts to go up, I'm guessing it's moderated these days. If they don't like it, they won't allow it through, no possible flamewars. No drama.

An admirable try Oz, but seeing's how dimwit's avoided even shorter, more direct question's then that in the past. What makes you think he'll be able to wrap his warped tiny blotter of gray matter (and any form of comprehensible and truthful answer) to a multi parter like that?

[OzBat!]

I'm hoping that because it's a new forum for him, he'll continue with his usual ploy of be nice and spin at great length, at least until it all comes back to bite him in the arse.

I'm not sure how that'll go, but it was always worth trying. Of course, Rick is floundering about in his rubber dingie and Tony in his massive battlecruiser has fired a broadside across his prow, so we'll see how that works out!

[JTPencils]

Of course, Rick is floundering about in his rubber dingie

What's that hissing sound I hear??? I think his dingie (like his brainpan) has sprung a leak.

[G-Spot]

Okay, forgive me if this has been posted already, but since the invitation was given to "TAKE THAT back..." to friends at the CBR forum, I figured I should...

Posted 2-22-07 6:19 PM by "Rick Olney"
Re: [LAIROFTHEGRIMONE] Re: Rick's Back!
"Jim,
Steve is here like others to be a conduit to take my words into private emails and into other forums. There is no other way to KNOW what is taking place on that CBR thread.

That being the case... I'm going to SUE each and every person that I'm told by my attorney has broken the law and left themself vulnerable. I will give no quarter, no apologies. Each case will be handled individually so each person can drop off into the place of stress and depression that my having to weather that ridiclous libelous thread has caused.

TAKE THAT back to your friends, Steve!"

Imagine the money it's going to take to go after all those individuals he feels have broken the law.

Also, ya gotta love that last part...

"Each case will be handled individually so each person can drop off into the place of stress and depression that my having to weather that ridiclous libelous thread has caused."

Uhm...what about the stress RO's non-payment has caused to those who worked for him?

So who all is going to the Pittsburgh Comicon this April? RO almost always attends. Anyone want to save him a few bucks in subpeonas and be there to pick them up personally and save him some postage and sherriff's fees?

I'll be there! (Since by posting this, and some things in the past, I'm sure that "Steven Harris ESQ." will be drawing those legal papers on me now.)

[Reverend Smooth]

He even monologues in bad supervillain dialogue.

[Danny Donovan]

so each person can drop off into the place of stress and depression

He's about six years too late in my case. :p

And none of it has anything to do with him. lol.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

He even monologues in bad supervillain dialogue.

Damn...it's true. we just need a maniacal laugh with some wheezing in the dialouge somewhere, maybe whenever he states legal action. He'd be that budweiser goldsomething guy. Have him laugh until he's coughing horribly. That would be great. Just insert that whenever he says legal action or NDA.

JP

[Danny Donovan]

Damn...it's true. we just need a maniacal laugh with some wheezing in the dialouge somewhere, maybe whenever he states legal action. He'd be that budweiser goldsomething guy. Have him laugh until he's coughing horribly. That would be great. Just insert that whenever he says legal action or NDA.

JP

I am surprised Cam hasn't initiated the Rick Olney drinking game. Everytime he says legal action, a shot, everytime he says NDA two. :p

Of course Bev and Sarah would be legally dead if she played considering how much of that junk she had to go through for the unscrewed site. lol.

[Gail Simone]

Rick's an habitual liar and after two months plus of threats, he's done nothing.

You're a fake, Rick. You wouldn't believe how many pros were talking about you and laughing at what a ridiculous spectacle you've made of yourself. People were talking about it often, laughing hysterically at your antics and fake threats.

Congratulations, you used to be a private joke in the industry. Now you're a hugely public laugh riot, with your name only being used as a punchline.

Which is better than you deserve, deadbeat.

Hurry up and sue, won't you? I'm dying to use all this evidence from your former friends and that'd be the perfect excuse to use it.

Gail

[Reverend Smooth]

Just take a drink whenever he says legal action or NDA. Chug! Chug!

Edit: ...Dammit, DD beat me to it.

[Danny Donovan]

Edit: ...Dammit, DD beat me to it.

heh! I r the mad poster what posts at midnight... or er.. 6am.. either or. :p

[OzBat!]

I want him to sue me so I can travel to the United States! Of course, he'd have to pay my plane ticket in advance and sign this NDA before I'd go, and if he complained about it I'd have my imaginary lawyer threaten him on a weekly basis.

[Reverend Smooth]

heh! I r the mad poster what posts at midnight... or er.. 6am.. either or. :pPretty fucking late, anyway. XD

[Danny Donovan]

I want him to sue me so I can travel to the United States! Of course, he'd have to pay my plane ticket in advance and sign this NDA before I'd go, and if he complained about it I'd have my imaginary lawyer threaten him on a weekly basis.

"Hey Oz, sorry about the mix-up, I scheduled your ticket for Austria instead of America, you know those wacky mix-ups... also I think "Gail Simmone" hacked into my computer and messed with my accounts.. you know she's one of those "professionals that are anything but" that's keeping a young bright talent such as myself from being the comicbook superstar I know I am... Just keep your mouth shut about this little mix-up or I'll never get around to suing you and you'll never make it to the states to attend your court date and my 85th convention spectacular... I figure since I'm making up numbers I might as well go with a high one.."

[Danny Donovan]

Pretty fucking late, anyway. XD

It's Sunday! I was burning the midnight oil anyway, and decided to just stay up to get the paper this morning. I have like a half hour window between when its put in the paperbox on the corner and all them buggers take every last copy. :p

*growl* I once woke up at 8am to get the paper, got all the way down there, and NONE WERE TO BE FOUND.

bleh.

[OzBat!]

"Hey Oz, sorry about the mix-up, I scheduled your ticket for Austria instead of America, you know those wacky mix-ups... also I think "Gail Simmone" hacked into my computer and messed with my accounts.. you know she's one of those "professionals that are anything but" that's keeping a young bright talent such as myself from being the comicbook superstar I know I am... Just keep your mouth shut about this little mix-up or I'll never get around to suing you and you'll never make it to the states to attend your court date and my 85th convention spectacular... I figure since I'm making up numbers I might as well go with a high one.."

SNORK!



All of his emails to the reservations office are labelled as private and confidential, I'm not entirely certain I'm allowed to read them to know when I'm supposed to get on the plane!

[Reverend Smooth]

*growl* I once woke up at 8am to get the paper, got all the way down there, and NONE WERE TO BE FOUND.

bleh.z.z I usually wake up around five or six AM, go to bed around two am. (Unlike tonight.)

[EdContradictory]

Thought the Tightlip logo couldn't get any grosser?

You were wrong.

I did a web search on "incarcerated" Tightlip logo designer, Benny G. Leal.

Remember how we all said the Tightlip logo was gross/creepy/not quite right?

Well, there's a reason for that.

Guess what book Leal has among his credits?

Blowjob #12 $3.95
24 page black and white comic book. A whole comic book that is solely dedicated to one of man’s most favorite pastimes. A comic book that truly sucks. Twenty-four c********ing pages of fellatio just for the guys and the girls that love to give it. This issue features a beautifully lusty cover and drawings from one of Japan’s finest, Fushigi Pen, along with contributions from Jay Beckman, Benny G. Leal, Vince Coleman, and John A. Short and Gabby Noble. Page after page of munching k*******s, this issue adds up to be one of Blowjob’s finest.

http://www.cbgxtra.com/portals/1/NtForums_Attach/USER_3558_avatar.jpg

Makes the drooling open-mouthed Tightlip logo grosser and the sperm-shooting ORCA logo really disturbing, don't it?

http://www.orcafresh.org/images/orca_b.jpg

[Blake Petit]

:shudder:

Wait, issue #12? There were eleven PRIOR issues of this?

[MacQuarrie]

Hey Oz, the group is only for posting news, and press releases. Let's not turn it into a flamewar thing. Rik Offenbaker is a really good guy and I'd hate to see his newsletter that's run for so long to get sidetracked by someone like Olney.

However, if you want to post an innocuous thing that mentions Unscrewed, I guess that could be seen as "news" lol. I just hate to see Rik get punished for Olney being a tool.

sounds like the perfect place to post a press release about the unscrewed project and auction and the reasons for them.

[Cam63]

I am surprised Cam hasn't initiated the Rick Olney drinking game. Everytime he says legal action, a shot, everytime he says NDA two. :p

Why do you think Australians need drinking games ?

WE JUST DRINK !

[Cam63]

Rick's an habitual liar and after two months plus of threats, he's done nothing.

You're a fake, Rick. You wouldn't believe how many pros were talking about you and laughing at what a ridiculous spectacle you've made of yourself. People were talking about it often, laughing hysterically at your antics and fake threats.

Congratulations, you used to be a private joke in the industry. Now you're a hugely public laugh riot, with your name only being used as a punchline.

Which is better than you deserve, deadbeat.

Hurry up and sue, won't you? I'm dying to use all this evidence from your former friends and that'd be the perfect excuse to use it.

Gail

I'm shocked... SHOCKED ! to learn you weren't shouted down by the masses as a filthy basher... A BASHER ! of a good and honest man in the trade.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Thought the Tightlip logo couldn't get any grosser?

You were wrong.

I did a web search on "incarcerated" Tightlip logo designer, Benny G. Leal.

Remember how we all said the Tightlip logo was gross/creepy/not quite right?

Well, there's a reason for that.

Guess what book Leal has among his credits?

Blowjob #12 $3.95
24 page black and white comic book. A whole comic book that is solely dedicated to one of man’s most favorite pastimes. A comic book that truly sucks. Twenty-four c********ing pages of fellatio just for the guys and the girls that love to give it. This issue features a beautifully lusty cover and drawings from one of Japan’s finest, Fushigi Pen, along with contributions from Jay Beckman, Benny G. Leal, Vince Coleman, and John A. Short and Gabby Noble. Page after page of munching k*******s, this issue adds up to be one of Blowjob’s finest.

http://www.cbgxtra.com/portals/1/NtForums_Attach/USER_3558_avatar.jpg

Makes the drooling open-mouthed Tightlip logo grosser and the sperm-shooting ORCA logo really disturbing, don't it?

http://www.orcafresh.org/images/orca_b.jpg

Well, he IS in prison....

[Cam63]

No one's arguing he shouldn't be.

[SteveForbes]

Okay, forgive me if this has been posted already, but since the invitation was given to "TAKE THAT back..." to friends at the CBR forum, I figured I should...

Posted 2-22-07 6:19 PM by "Rick Olney"
Re: [LAIROFTHEGRIMONE] Re: Rick's Back!


Imagine the money it's going to take to go after all those individuals he feels have broken the law.

Also, ya gotta love that last part...



Uhm...what about the stress RO's non-payment has caused to those who worked for him?

So who all is going to the Pittsburgh Comicon this April? RO almost always attends. Anyone want to save him a few bucks in subpeonas and be there to pick them up personally and save him some postage and sherriff's fees?

I'll be there! (Since by posting this, and some things in the past, I'm sure that "Steven Harris ESQ." will be drawing those legal papers on me now.)

Hmm. I must have missed that one, or felt like it wasn't worth a response.

Anyway, Jim Main asked ye olde Rickster a couple of questions at his forum that found to be very interesting.

(Before I get to that, I have to say that I'm a member of Jim's group now, and every time I respond to ye olde Rickster, my spell checker wants to change Olney to Baloney. I keep telling it that it's really the same thing, but the spell checker doesn't listen. Anyway...)

Jim asked ye olde Rickster about how much it costs him to put on a show, including advertising. You know, since YOR (ye olde rickster) is putting on a show on June 23 & 24. Jim would put on one day shows back in the day, and it didn't cost him that much.

Of course, YOR gave a non-answer, saying that you have to spend money to make money, and that contrary to popular belief, he pays his debts (but then, in the same breath, says that he STILL owes someone some money for going to one of his shows- no, it wasn't Gail.) After yet anothe story that didn't pertain to the question, he says that he can't release an exact number, because he doesn't have one yet, and that advertising is always costly.

Of course, I call YOR on it, saying that Jim wasn't asking for an exact number, and that a guestimate would be fine.

Jim also asks if YOR plans to roll his current debts into the con he's planning, so he can get rid of it all at once. Which was, of course, yet ANOTHER great question!

YOR responds with he's putting on the show so he can get some of his TLE creators together, and that holding an event to help pay his debts elsewhere wasn't as important as trying to provide positive opportunities for his company.

Also, kids love to see Spider-Man, who he affirms WILL be there. (I wonder if Marvel knows?)

So, I set things straight, to see if I got confused. He's putting on a show to get creators together, he's not worried about his debts, and kids love seeing Spidey. I then said that this doesn't answer the question about how much it costs to have a show come off. I then asked him to please answer the question, based on his past experience.

He then wants to get uppity! He says that no one on this Jim's board tells another how to think or answer questions, and that he DID answer the question to the best of his abilities. (If the above is the best of his abilities, then everyone should either run away screaming in stark terror, or breathe a collective sigh of relief. You choose.) He then goes on a small monologue about how his other debts are being looked at by his attorney, and once payments are allowed to proceed, they will go forth with a schedule for them. Oh, and he also asserts again that Spidey WILL be there.

Then, of course, I tell him that none of this answers the question, and I comment on his comments, and he comes back to say that he got lost in all of my comments, and what was the question again?

I then re-post Jim's original question, and then break it down to kindergarden terms so that he could get his limited understanding around it. (Yes, I called it limited, YOR. You got "lost" in my comments, and claimed that you forgot the question, when all you had to do was scroll up a few messages.)

Jim then apologizes for bringing up the entire mess, and then tells me I should let it go since an answer obviously isn't forthcoming. Like I was expecting anything different.

Whew!

Oh, and Jim, about that apology: I'm not sure how you thought "Okay, Danny. Thanks." is an apology, but my father taught me that if you do wrong to someone, you say the words, and make sure you're honestly contrite when you say them. I was about twelve at the time, and it wasn't until I actually left home and started forming relationships with people outside of my immediate experience that I understood what he meant. Words are powerful. You can make or break someone's day with just a few of them.

My small umbrage with you was twofold: one, that you chastised the wrong person (you still haven't said anything against the right one); and two, that you hadn't apologized at the time for it.

If Danny's satisfied, then so am I. He said he was frustrated, as well, so I guess everything is cool between the two of you. Great. Seriously.

My question to the group is this: if you want to hold a con, and you want to have a ficticious character show up to please kids of all ages, do you need permission from the owner of the character for that? Or can you just go out and purchase a costume and have at it?

-(long winded, but had a story to tell) llama

[Cam63]

He's been bullshiting so long to so many, I doubt he knows what truth is anymore, Steve.

[Calliope's Comics]

Hmm. I must have missed that one, or felt like it wasn't worth a response.

Anyway, Jim Main asked ye olde Rickster a couple of questions at his forum that found to be very interesting.

(Before I get to that, I have to say that I'm a member of Jim's group now, and every time I respond to ye olde Rickster, my spell checker wants to change Olney to Baloney. I keep telling it that it's really the same thing, but the spell checker doesn't listen. Anyway...)

Jim asked ye olde Rickster about how much it costs him to put on a show, including advertising. You know, since YOR (ye olde rickster) is putting on a show on June 23 & 24. Jim would put on one day shows back in the day, and it didn't cost him that much.

Of course, YOR gave a non-answer, saying that you have to spend money to make money, and that contrary to popular belief, he pays his debts (but then, in the same breath, says that he STILL owes someone some money for going to one of his shows- no, it wasn't Gail.) After yet anothe story that didn't pertain to the question, he says that he can't release an exact number, because he doesn't have one yet, and that advertising is always costly.

Of course, I call YOR on it, saying that Jim wasn't asking for an exact number, and that a guestimate would be fine.

Jim also asks if YOR plans to roll his current debts into the con he's planning, so he can get rid of it all at once. Which was, of course, yet ANOTHER great question!

YOR responds with he's putting on the show so he can get some of his TLE creators together, and that holding an event to help pay his debts elsewhere wasn't as important as trying to provide positive opportunities for his company.

Also, kids love to see Spider-Man, who he affirms WILL be there. (I wonder if Marvel knows?)

So, I set things straight, to see if I got confused. He's putting on a show to get creators together, he's not worried about his debts, and kids love seeing Spidey. I then said that this doesn't answer the question about how much it costs to have a show come off. I then asked him to please answer the question, based on his past experience.

He then wants to get uppity! He says that no one on this Jim's board tells another how to think or answer questions, and that he DID answer the question to the best of his abilities. (If the above is the best of his abilities, then everyone should either run away screaming in stark terror, or breathe a collective sigh of relief. You choose.) He then goes on a small monologue about how his other debts are being looked at by his attorney, and once payments are allowed to proceed, they will go forth with a schedule for them. Oh, and he also asserts again that Spidey WILL be there.

Then, of course, I tell him that none of this answers the question, and I comment on his comments, and he comes back to say that he got lost in all of my comments, and what was the question again?

I then re-post Jim's original question, and then break it down to kindergarden terms so that he could get his limited understanding around it. (Yes, I called it limited, YOR. You got "lost" in my comments, and claimed that you forgot the question, when all you had to do was scroll up a few messages.)

Jim then apologizes for bringing up the entire mess, and then tells me I should let it go since an answer obviously isn't forthcoming. Like I was expecting anything different.

Whew!

Oh, and Jim, about that apology: I'm not sure how you thought "Okay, Danny. Thanks." is an apology, but my father taught me that if you do wrong to someone, you say the words, and make sure you're honestly contrite when you say them. I was about twelve at the time, and it wasn't until I actually left home and started forming relationships with people outside of my immediate experience that I understood what he meant. Words are powerful. You can make or break someone's day with just a few of them.

My small umbrage with you was twofold: one, that you chastised the wrong person (you still haven't said anything against the right one); and two, that you hadn't apologized at the time for it.

If Danny's satisfied, then so am I. He said he was frustrated, as well, so I guess everything is cool between the two of you. Great. Seriously.

My question to the group is this: if you want to hold a con, and you want to have a ficticious character show up to please kids of all ages, do you need permission from the owner of the character for that? Or can you just go out and purchase a costume and have at it?

-(long winded, but had a story to tell) llama


You need the company's permission to use any of their characters in any capacity, including putting them on the front page of your program. Marvel has specific actors that they hire and hire out for personal appearances. This avoids the whole having a drunk child molestor playing Spider-Man, which could severely damage the marketability of the character should anything innappropriate happen. Since he is promoting it as an apperance then he better have cleared it with Marvel and paid them the licensing rights. There is a way around this, but I am not about to give him the idea on how.

[Sarah Beach]

Steve, about the "Spidey" appearance he keeps touting, I started wondering about that myself.

On the one hand, it's my understanding that license holders allow a certain leeway to folks who dress as known superheroes, for entertainment purposes - as long as they don't say they are the "Zuperman". Here in Hollywood near the Chinese theater - the Hollywood & Highland complex, where the Oscars are tonight - there are usually a number of folks in costumes for tourists to pose with (one well known guy as Superman). They are, basically, panhandling for it. And they often also do appearances round about, like at comic shops.

But the license holders do track them, and if they get into trouble with the law, the license holders come down fast with "cease & desist" orders. Recently, a guy who was posing as Chewbaca at H&H got into trouble for assaulting someone, and Fox came down fast after he was carted off by the cops. No more Chewy for him.

So.... if RO is going to tout a "Spidey" appearance by anyone more than someone wearing the costume for a masquerade... well, it might be of concern for Marvel and Sony licensing, given that Spider-Man 3 is due out this summer. It might matter to them, that such a disreputable operator is planning on using their character to hype his maybe-it-will-happen convention.

As for MMC.... Heh.

Look, it's now the end of February. He says the convention will be June 23-24. He doesn't have a ventue yet. He doesn't really have a guest list yet (since he's still casting about for pro guests). He's still hunting vendors, although he says he has some committed.

It's four months before the "event". Me, if I don't know for sure where something is going to be four months beforehand, especially when I'd have to travel for it, I write it off as a "no-go". I've got plenty of other things I know I have to schedule for. And I'd rate the so-called MMC#7 as a no-go.

If he gets anything going, it's going to be on the level of a rather pathetic comic-book fair, not a real convention.

[Matt Doc Martin]

You need the company's permission to use any of their characters in any capacity, including putting them on the front page of your program. Marvel has specific actors that they hire and hire out for personal appearances. This avoids the whole having a drunk child molestor playing Spider-Man, which could severely damage the marketability of the character should anything innappropriate happen. Since he is promoting it as an apperance then he better have cleared it with Marvel and paid them the licensing rights. There is a way around this, but I am not about to give him the idea on how.

*prepares letter to Marvel*

[Sarah Beach]

Regarding the artist of the TLE logo --- yuck on that again.

I too did a google. Other credits are a lot of prison tats, plus credits for issues of the titles Rear Entry and Anal Invaders from Uranus (I kid you not).

The fact that RO is not only using this guy's work for supposed "family" safe entertainment, but owns some of his work.... means that RO ran across his work where it was printed. Which... more yuck. I mean, it doesn't really surprise me that he's probably reading such muck, but still..... creepy to the extreme. Comic book porn. Another stirling quality in the character of RO.

[Sarah Beach]

*prepares letter to Marvel*

Don't forget Sony marketing & licensing. They have a big BIG Spidey movie coming out this summer, remember! It'll matter to them.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Regarding the artist of the TLE logo --- yuck on that again.

I too did a google. Other credits are a lot of prison tats, plus credits for issues of the titles Rear Entry and Anal Invaders from Uranus (I kid you not).

The fact that RO is not only using this guy's work for supposed "family" safe entertainment, but owns some of his work.... means that RO ran across his work where it was printed. Which... more yuck. I mean, it doesn't really surprise me that he's probably reading such muck, but still..... creepy to the extreme. Comic book porn. Another stirling quality in the character of RO.

Good point.

Rick: How DID you come across all this work? Do you like gay porn? Not that there is anything wrong with that, mind you....


*shudder*

[Matt Doc Martin]

Don't forget Sony marketing & licensing. They have a big BIG Spidey movie coming out this summer, remember! It'll matter to them.

Copied!:evilsmile

[Samuel Catalino]

Well, he IS in prison....

Matthew,

Maybe it is part of RO's inspiration for comics in the prison. You would think that all of this stuff would be examined by the prison censors.

Perhaps it is something that RO can claim credit along with comics in the classroom, this comics and porn in the prison.

Best,

Samuel

[SteveForbes]

*prepares letter to Marvel*

I was waiting for that!

-(knew it was gonna happen) llama

[Matt Doc Martin]

I was waiting for that!

-(knew it was gonna happen) llama

I absolutely will. And copy to Sony.

They have a right to defend their property from a character like Olney. I will send the letter with copies of his racist, misogynist, and threatening posts. Along with HIS claims of non-payment to creators. AND a copy of the complaint and response from the NY AG.

HAVE A NICE DAY RICK OLNEY

[Papergirl]

I absolutely will. And copy to Sony.

They have a right to defend their property from a charter like Olney. I will send the letter with copies of his racist, misogynist, and threatening posts. Along with HIS claims of non-payment to creators. AND a copy of the complaint and response from the NY AG.

HAVE A NICE DAY RICK OLNEY
RICK OLNEY is sooooooooo screwed.

~Bev

[JTPencils]

Can RICK OLNEY find any bigger shovels around his littered backyard? How deep a hole is he going to trench himself into before he is finally stopped!! Geesh!

I'd love to attend this non-con just so I can approach the poor souls that have been hornswaggled into doing TLE work and confide in them "RUN! Run for your souls, run for your dignity, just RUN RUN RUN...". But sadly, dimwit's probably got them all hyped up that they're "going to be published and paid well", and won't listen to reason.

Sad.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Can RICK OLNEY find any bigger shovels around his littered backyard? How deep a hole is he going to trench himself into before he is finally stopped!! Geesh!

I'd love to attend this non-con just so I can approach the poor souls that have been hornswaggled into doing TLE work and confide in them "RUN! Run for your souls, run for your dignity, just RUN RUN RUN...". But sadly, dimwit's probably got them all hyped up that they're "going to be published and paid well", and won't listen to reason.

Sad.


As soon as he lists guest, I am contacting them. I will advise them to get payment up front and again, point them to RICK OLNEY'S OWN WORDS. Then, if they choose to go to his "con" (not that it will happen anyhow), it is on them alone. They will be informed.

[Papergirl]

As soon as he lists guest, I am contacting them. I will advise them to get payment up front and again, point them to RICK OLNEY'S OWN WORDS. Then, if they choose to go to his "con" (not that it will happen anyhow), it is on them alone. They will be informed.
RICK OLNEY cons ARE cons.

~Bev

[JTPencils]

Wonder if there's ever been a picket protest line outside of a con... I could just see it now... shafted previous talent from his various "publications".... strolling outside the closet that he's gonna hold this extravaganza at....

I can see the signs now....

"NDA doesn't mean no PAY"

"TLE... Total Loss Endeavor
unfair to creative types"

"Ricky O has got to go!"

"MMC --- Mighty Mighty Cheap
he doesn't pay his bills, guests or
creative teams"

"Did you pay to get in? That's more then Rick Olney's done!"

[TomStillwell]

Hmm. I must have missed that one, or felt like it wasn't worth a response.

Anyway, Jim Main asked ye olde Rickster a couple of questions at his forum that found to be very interesting.

(Before I get to that, I have to say that I'm a member of Jim's group now, and every time I respond to ye olde Rickster, my spell checker wants to change Olney to Baloney. I keep telling it that it's really the same thing, but the spell checker doesn't listen. Anyway...)

Jim asked ye olde Rickster about how much it costs him to put on a show, including advertising. You know, since YOR (ye olde rickster) is putting on a show on June 23 & 24. Jim would put on one day shows back in the day, and it didn't cost him that much.

Of course, YOR gave a non-answer, saying that you have to spend money to make money, and that contrary to popular belief, he pays his debts (but then, in the same breath, says that he STILL owes someone some money for going to one of his shows- no, it wasn't Gail.) After yet anothe story that didn't pertain to the question, he says that he can't release an exact number, because he doesn't have one yet, and that advertising is always costly.

Of course, I call YOR on it, saying that Jim wasn't asking for an exact number, and that a guestimate would be fine.

Jim also asks if YOR plans to roll his current debts into the con he's planning, so he can get rid of it all at once. Which was, of course, yet ANOTHER great question!

YOR responds with he's putting on the show so he can get some of his TLE creators together, and that holding an event to help pay his debts elsewhere wasn't as important as trying to provide positive opportunities for his company.

Also, kids love to see Spider-Man, who he affirms WILL be there. (I wonder if Marvel knows?)

So, I set things straight, to see if I got confused. He's putting on a show to get creators together, he's not worried about his debts, and kids love seeing Spidey. I then said that this doesn't answer the question about how much it costs to have a show come off. I then asked him to please answer the question, based on his past experience.

He then wants to get uppity! He says that no one on this Jim's board tells another how to think or answer questions, and that he DID answer the question to the best of his abilities. (If the above is the best of his abilities, then everyone should either run away screaming in stark terror, or breathe a collective sigh of relief. You choose.) He then goes on a small monologue about how his other debts are being looked at by his attorney, and once payments are allowed to proceed, they will go forth with a schedule for them. Oh, and he also asserts again that Spidey WILL be there.

Then, of course, I tell him that none of this answers the question, and I comment on his comments, and he comes back to say that he got lost in all of my comments, and what was the question again?

I then re-post Jim's original question, and then break it down to kindergarden terms so that he could get his limited understanding around it. (Yes, I called it limited, YOR. You got "lost" in my comments, and claimed that you forgot the question, when all you had to do was scroll up a few messages.)

Jim then apologizes for bringing up the entire mess, and then tells me I should let it go since an answer obviously isn't forthcoming. Like I was expecting anything different.

Whew!

Oh, and Jim, about that apology: I'm not sure how you thought "Okay, Danny. Thanks." is an apology, but my father taught me that if you do wrong to someone, you say the words, and make sure you're honestly contrite when you say them. I was about twelve at the time, and it wasn't until I actually left home and started forming relationships with people outside of my immediate experience that I understood what he meant. Words are powerful. You can make or break someone's day with just a few of them.

My small umbrage with you was twofold: one, that you chastised the wrong person (you still haven't said anything against the right one); and two, that you hadn't apologized at the time for it.

If Danny's satisfied, then so am I. He said he was frustrated, as well, so I guess everything is cool between the two of you. Great. Seriously.

My question to the group is this: if you want to hold a con, and you want to have a ficticious character show up to please kids of all ages, do you need permission from the owner of the character for that? Or can you just go out and purchase a costume and have at it?

-(long winded, but had a story to tell) llama

If you look over in the Cape? thread, Richard Neal of Zeus comics talks about his experience in trying to get a Spider-Man for Cape 3 this year. Yes, you need permission and it is horribly expensive.

You have to use their Spider-Man if you want permission.

[TomStillwell]

I'm wondering, does Brad at the news channel know now that the Attorney General is actively persuing Rick Olney?

[THEDOC]

Steve, about the "Spidey" appearance he keeps touting, I started wondering about that myself.

On the one hand, it's my understanding that license holders allow a certain leeway to folks who dress as known superheroes, for entertainment purposes - as long as they don't say they are the "Zuperman". Here in Hollywood near the Chinese theater - the Hollywood & Highland complex, where the Oscars are tonight - there are usually a number of folks in costumes for tourists to pose with (one well known guy as Superman). They are, basically, panhandling for it. And they often also do appearances round about, like at comic shops.

But the license holders do track them, and if they get into trouble with the law, the license holders come down fast with "cease & desist" orders. Recently, a guy who was posing as Chewbaca at H&H got into trouble for assaulting someone, and Fox came down fast after he was carted off by the cops. No more Chewy for him.

So.... if RO is going to tout a "Spidey" appearance by anyone more than someone wearing the costume for a masquerade... well, it might be of concern for Marvel and Sony licensing, given that Spider-Man 3 is due out this summer. It might matter to them, that such a disreputable operator is planning on using their character to hype his maybe-it-will-happen convention.

As for MMC.... Heh.

Look, it's now the end of February. He says the convention will be June 23-24. He doesn't have a ventue yet. He doesn't really have a guest list yet (since he's still casting about for pro guests). He's still hunting vendors, although he says he has some committed.

It's four months before the "event". Me, if I don't know for sure where something is going to be four months beforehand, especially when I'd have to travel for it, I write it off as a "no-go". I've got plenty of other things I know I have to schedule for. And I'd rate the so-called MMC#7 as a no-go.

If he gets anything going, it's going to be on the level of a rather pathetic comic-book fair, not a real convention.

At The jam we are in negotiations with a regional wrestling organization that is affiliated with a local church where the wrestlers would show up as mainstream superheroes. They just had an event in Indiana where they wrestled in these costumes and I don't think we will have a problem if they come to our event and have pics with the kids. We are also having one of the 501 Star Wars battalion show up so hopefully we will have inter-action with say Capatin America versus Darth Vader.

[Calliope's Comics]

At The jam we are in negotiations with a regional wrestling organization that is affiliated with a local church where the wrestlers would show up as mainstream superheroes. They just had an event in Indiana where they wrestled in these costumes and I don't think we will have a problem if they come to our event and have pics with the kids. We are also having one of the 501 Star Wars battalion show up so hopefully we will have inter-action with say Capatin America versus Darth Vader.

Doc
Are you in the Chicagoland area? That sounds like one of the two promotions around here that I was looking into wrestling for.

[DocAbsurd]

'That's nice, but the ICC (and subsequent logo) is all Tim's. I erased the myspace page, and the Yahoo.com egroup. It can either be worked with or blow to the dust. I want nothing to do with small press and those people composing the cliques within it.'

That's from a letter posted to my Daphne 12/28/06.

And that's the quote where he disassociates himself with small press creators.

Wonder how many places that can be posted? That'd look nice on the flyer for the MMC, wouldn't it?




Doc 'Try Washing Your Hands Again' Absurd

[Reverend Smooth]

my father taught me that if you do wrong to someone, you say the words, and make sure you're honestly contrite when you say them. I was about twelve at the time, and it wasn't until I actually left home and started forming relationships with people outside of my immediate experience that I understood what he meant. Words are powerful. You can make or break someone's day with just a few of them.
I know that this is redundant, but your father's a good man for taking the time to do that.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'm wondering, does Brad at the news channel know now that the Attorney General is actively persuing Rick Olney?

Dunno. Haven't managed to speak with him yet. I have called a couple of times, but no return calls.

[Reverend Smooth]

I mean, it doesn't really surprise me that he's probably reading such muck, but still..... creepy to the extreme. Comic book porn. Another stirling quality in the character of RO.I can't believe I'm doing this, but I have to quietly say that several artists who are active in the industry, and/or are getting into it, (yes, me too, right up front) have drawn porn to pay the bills until getting more 'reputable' work. When you need to put food on your table, is it realistic to turn down paying work?

As long as you're not marketing the porn itself to people not old enough to get it, I don't think that should be held against anyone.

[JTPencils]

I'm wondering, does Brad at the news channel know now that the Attorney General is actively persuing Rick Olney?

I don't know about anyone else being contacted by Brad, but I didn't hear a word back from him at all. So I'm guessing Brad doesn't give a fig.

[Samuel Catalino]

RICK OLNEY cons ARE cons.

~Bev

Now that is the best line I have heard all week.

[Sarah Beach]

I can't believe I'm doing this, but I have to quietly say that several artists who are active in the industry, and/or are getting into it, (yes, me too, right up front) have drawn porn to pay the bills until getting more 'reputable' work. When you need to put food on your table, is it realistic to turn down paying work?

As long as you're not marketing the porn itself to people not old enough to get it, I don't think that should be held against anyone.

I didn't mean to tread on toes, Reverend. I do understand the points you made.

Still... I had a glance at some of the stuff RO's artist is connected to, and there's something very crude and crass about it. And when the artist is "incarcerated", it's not so much a matter of bread-and-butter, is it?

That said, it was more the fact that RO evidently reads the stuff avidly that really creeps me out. (Oh, and the titles I cited, were not gay, inspite of the references to anal sex. At least from a very brief skimming, that's what I could discern. I didn't really want to study it too much.)

[Calliope's Comics]

I didn't mean to tread on toes, Reverend. I do understand the points you made.

Still... I had a glance at some of the stuff RO's artist is connected to, and there's something very crude and crass about it. And when the artist is "incarcerated", it's not so much a matter of bread-and-butter, is it?

That said, it was more the fact that RO evidently reads the stuff avidly that really creeps me out. (Oh, and the titles I cited, were not gay, inspite of the references to anal sex. At least from a very brief skimming, that's what I could discern. I didn't really want to study it too much.)

I have some insight if you want to know how he goes about getting these books. These titles are not generally carried by most comic shops and are usually special order only. They also do not appear in the regular version of Previews other than a title. So if he wanted information about artists and content he would have to special order the adult supplement, which is an extra cost over the regular Previews edition. So a person would have to actively search out this material to find it.

[Danny Donovan]

sounds like the perfect place to post a press release about the unscrewed project and auction and the reasons for them.

That's one of the places that has been hit since it's inception. ^_^ which reminds me I need to get something together for the March release.

As for the Spidey thing. Marvel has a thing where you can hire costumed people for events and schools and whatnot. I think the choices are Spidey, Wolverine, Storm, Spider-girl, and I'm forgetting someone I'm sure...

I am not sure how expensive that is, I wouldn't think too bad if it's offered to schools....

[THEDOC]

Doc
Are you in the Chicagoland area? That sounds like one of the two promotions around here that I was looking into wrestling for.

Yeah I live about 40 miles north of The Windy City. This is the site of Fire Pro, it's on my space:

http://www.myspace.com/fireprowrestling

You are a wrestler yourself? Did you ever wrestle for Windy City Pro Wrestling? They used to wrestle at Wizard World.

[SteveForbes]

I know that this is redundant, but your father's a good man for taking the time to do that.

Yeah, my father's done a lot for me, in shaping my character. Things I didn't appreciate at the time, but now I find that I wouldn't be able to get along without.

Anyway, on a MUCH different subject, I got a new game yesterday! City of Villains! It's HOT!!!

And the best thing about it? It was FREE! Absolutely free. The Software Etc that we went to was doing a promotional thing. We didn't see any copies of the game on the shelves, so we asked if they had any. The guy went to the back, and started to ring it up. Another guy behind the counter said they're doing a promotion with it, and when it was rung up under the promotion, it was FREE!

My wife and I looked confused, but the guy said, and I quote: "Don't question it. Just take it and go."

And we did as we were told. :)

Now, back on topic, I didn't think that the "renting" of a hero for schools would be that expensive. But permission is needed. Got it.

Now, what's the probability that YOR doesn't have any, and doesn't plan on getting any?

-(all over the place) llama

[Reverend Smooth]

My wife and I looked confused, but the guy said, and I quote: "Don't question it. Just take it and go."

And we did as we were told. :)
Now, that's good advice. XD

[Magneto_X]

Or can you just go out and purchase a costume and have at it?


*imagines Rick is a smelly, ripped Spiderman costume*

[Magneto_X]

Matthew,

Maybe it is part of RO's inspiration for comics in the prison. You would think that all of this stuff would be examined by the prison censors.

Perhaps it is something that RO can claim credit along with comics in the classroom, this comics and porn in the prison.

Best,

Samuel

Hopefully one day Rick will have his own "comic club" in prison. Of course, by then he'll actually be an inmate. ;)

[Magneto_X]

I absolutely will. And copy to Sony.

They have a right to defend their property from a character like Olney. I will send the letter with copies of his racist, misogynist, and threatening posts. Along with HIS claims of non-payment to creators. AND a copy of the complaint and response from the NY AG.

HAVE A NICE DAY RICK OLNEY

Things just keep getting worse for Rick.

Marvel and Sony will make your and St.Jude's lawsuit look like a tea party! lol

[Samuel Catalino]

Hopefully one day Rick will have his own "comic club" in prison. Of course, by then he'll actually be an inmate. ;)

I hate to disappoint you, but I don't think he has done anything that will cause him to be an inmate. At least as far as I know.

Best,

Samuel

[Reverend Smooth]

Still... I had a glance at some of the stuff RO's artist is connected to, and there's something very crude and crass about it. Noprob.And when the artist is "incarcerated", it's not so much a matter of bread-and-butter, is it?Eh, depends. Can he even profit from his work if he's, um, freedom-impaired?

[Blake Petit]

I hate to disappoint you, but I don't think he has done anything that will cause him to be an inmate. At least as far as I know.

Best,

Samuel

I'd think there'd be SOME jail time for fraudulently misrepresenting a charitable organization...

[Danny Donovan]

I hate to disappoint you, but I don't think he has done anything that will cause him to be an inmate. At least as far as I know.

Best,

Samuel

But there's still time!

:)

[Papergirl]

I hate to disappoint you, but I don't think he has done anything that will cause him to be an inmate. At least as far as I know.

Best,

Samuel
I believe charity fraud is a prison-able crime. I could be wrong, though.

~Bev

[JTPencils]

I believe charity fraud is a prison-able crime. I could be wrong, though.

~Bev

Various forms of fraud are usually punishable with some jail time. I'm not so sure though about charity fraud. That may just incur a huge fine of some sort. But... much like the Orphans can already tell you... collecting from dimwit is the big problem. Oh he'll PROMISE to pay... but that's about all you're gonna get. He's got out more IOU's to creative folks then a bad gambler in Vegas.

[NatGertler]

I believe charity fraud is a prison-able crime.It indeed can be. (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D03E4D91F3CF934A25751C1A9659C8B 63&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fS% 2fSentences%20%28Criminal%29) Now, that case was a federal case; I'm not sure of what (if any) aspects need to cross state lines in order for the feds to be involved.

[Danny Donovan]

It indeed can be. (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D03E4D91F3CF934A25751C1A9659C8B 63&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fS% 2fSentences%20%28Criminal%29) Now, that case was a federal case; I'm not sure of what (if any) aspects need to cross state lines in order for the feds to be involved.

Well Billy Tucci lives in Cali so he was traficking in auction items from all over. One would assume that the estimated value of said items would count from the state/country/whatever that it was created/sent from wouldn't it?

[MacQuarrie]

Wonder if there's ever been a picket protest line outside of a con... I could just see it now... shafted previous talent from his various "publications".... strolling outside the closet that he's gonna hold this extravaganza at....
As a matter of fact, yes. Way back in the mid-1970s, there was a guy who used to put on science-fiction/fantasy/horror/comic conventions in LA (at the Marriott). The guy's name was Doug something. He had a habit of not paying on occasion (I won a prize in a costume contest at one of his cons and it took me about 8 months to collect my prize, which came with a letter informing me that I was no longer permitted to attend his events due to my negative attitude).

At one point, Douggie tried to add what basically amounted to a "loyalty oath" of sorts, meaning that people could be ejected or refused entry of they made any kind of negative comment about either Douggie or his event. A group of local fans who had previously had run-ins with him and had already been barred staged a protest outside the hotel in costume. It was a little weird to see a couple of astronauts, a barbarian woman and a couple of superheroes waving signs on the street corner.

[Inkpot1965]

Y'know, while I was at TLE, I had to adapt the pervert logo from a tiny thumbnail icon to a larger line art version. Sniff...I feel so DIRTY...sob.....

[JTPencils]

Y'know, while I was at TLE, I had to adapt the pervert logo from a tiny thumbnail icon to a larger line art version. Sniff...I feel so DIRTY...sob.....

Aha! So it's all YOUR fault!!! Get the pitchfoks everybody!

[Inkpot1965]

VHat can I say? I vas chust following der orders. [clicks boots]

[Samuel Catalino]

I believe charity fraud is a prison-able crime. I could be wrong, though.

~Bev

Bev,

Until there are charges brought forth by the authorities, it(RO being in prison) is not even worth being thought about.

Best,

Samuel

[Papergirl]

Bev,

Until there are charges brought forth by the authorities, it is not even worth being thought about.

Best,

Samuel
I can but dream that they DO go after him. And IF they do, most likely he's look at time in the pokey.

And that thought gives me warm fuzzies.

~Bev

[Samuel Catalino]

I'd think there'd be SOME jail time for fraudulently misrepresenting a charitable organization...

Blake,

No, that would be a cease and desist and no jail time there. The fraud comes when money is collected and not delivered to intended purpose as advertised.

Best,

Samuel

[Samuel Catalino]

I can but dream that they DO go after him. And IF they do, most likely he's look at time in the pokey.

And that thought gives me warm fuzzies.

~Bev


Bev,

If they do go after him, they need to convict him, then we can talk about prison time.

One thing after another.

Best,

Samuel

[Matt Doc Martin]

Bev,

If they do go after him, they need to convict him, then we can talk about prison time.

One thing after another.

Best,

Samuel

why must you always rain on our parades?

Go away, little cloud.

Rick will serve time...and BURN!

At the very least, he will sweat a bit.

[Danny Donovan]

Blake,

No, that would be a cease and desist and no jail time there. The fraud comes when money is collected and not delivered to intended purpose as advertised.

Best,

Samuel


But the money WAS collected. As it's been explained to me (and even uttered in RO's own words) it was a live auction and supposedly a check was to be cut to the charity in question.

[Samuel Catalino]

why must you always rain on our parades?

Go away, little cloud.

Rick will serve time...and BURN!

At the very least, he will sweat a bit.

Matt,

I am not trying to rain on the parade. I just want to give reasonable expectations.

I try to win the Lotto twice a week, and I deal with people raining on me too, but one has to be realistic.

Best,

Samuel

[Samuel Catalino]

But the money WAS collected. As it's been explained to me (and even uttered in RO's own words) it was a live auction and supposedly a check was to be cut to the charity in question.

Danny,

Who knows if all of his comments to you were a big con within itself to curry your good favor?

That is the trouble with people who deceive. You don't know when they are really telling the truth.

Best,

Samuel

[Matt Doc Martin]

Matt,

I am not trying to rain on the parade. I just want to give reasonable expectations.

I try to win the Lotto twice a week, and I deal with people raining on me too, but one has to be realistic.

Best,

Samuel


Right. And right now a reasonable expectation is that St Judes is still looking into it, they have not received any proof from Rick (or even a response to Jen Joy), and that the AG in NY has received my complain along with documentation from myself and a few others involved. Will he go to jail? Probably not. Will he attempt something like this again? HELL NO.

If all he gets is a call from the AG, I will be happy. If something more happens, even better.The amount we are talking about is small. But I know for a fact that St Jude's is not happy. We will see what happens. Until then, allow people to dream.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Danny,

Who knows if all of his comments to you were a big con within itself to curry your good favor?

That is the trouble with people who deceive. You don't know when they are really telling the truth.

Best,

Samuel
We have RICK OLNEY'S WORDS to hang the fat bastard by. If nothing else, he has set himself up for perjury, depending on what story he goes with.

[Karl J. Barnes]

We have RICK OLNEY'S WORDS to hang the fat bastard by. If nothing else, he has set himself up for perjury, depending on what story he goes with.

True, but will he demand that the the Judge,jury and others sign NDA; before telling them anything??

[Matt Doc Martin]

True, but will he demand that the the Judge,jury and others sign NDA; before telling them anything??

I hope not...I'd hate the trial be called on account of a mental evaluation.

[Danny Donovan]

Danny,

Who knows if all of his comments to you were a big con within itself to curry your good favor?

That is the trouble with people who deceive. You don't know when they are really telling the truth.

Best,

Samuel


All I'm saying is you're talking about being realistic, on a comic book message board. I don't think anyone is getting in over their heads, I think they're just having a bit of fun.

I think it's great you're adding a little reality to it, but don't mistake 'wishful thinking' for people's honest belief. Rick having a prison sentence has the same chance of well, anything happening or not happening.

I think that regardless of what happens at the end of it all nothing but good can come of it. Do I think he'll go to jail? No, he's old, he's in bad health, any ambulence chaser could get him off with community service or house arrest or some such thing where he never sees the inside of a cell.

But hey, we can dream!

[Flamebird]

All I'm saying is you're talking about being realistic, on a comic book message board. I don't think anyone is getting in over their heads, I think they're just having a bit of fun.

I think it's great you're adding a little reality to it, but don't mistake 'wishful thinking' for people's honest belief. Rick having a prison sentence has the same chance of well, anything happening or not happening.

I think that regardless of what happens at the end of it all nothing but good can come of it. Do I think he'll go to jail? No, he's old, he's in bad health, any ambulence chaser could get him off with community service or house arrest or some such thing where he never sees the inside of a cell.

But hey, we can dream!


True, but even (or especially) an ambulance chaser, wants to get PAID.


and isn't that kind of the problem?:rolleyes:

[Danny Donovan]

True, but even (or especially) an ambulance chaser, wants to get PAID.


and isn't that kind of the problem?:rolleyes:

Considering how much trouble he's in? I think this is ONE person you can be sure he won't shaft. As barmy as he is, I think he knows he needs to keep SOMEONE on his side. :p

[Flamebird]

Considering how much trouble he's in? I think this is ONE person you can be sure he won't shaft. As barmy as he is, I think he knows he needs to keep SOMEONE on his side. :p

Sorry, but I just keep picturing him sitting in his basement with a dead rat, singing:

"Ben, the two of us need look no more....."

[MacQuarrie]

I think that regardless of what happens at the end of it all nothing but good can come of it. Do I think he'll go to jail? No, he's old, he's in bad health, any ambulence chaser could get him off with community service or house arrest or some such thing where he never sees the inside of a cell.
He's not that old. I'm damn near as old as he is.

But anyway, this is Rick "Galloping Ego" Olney we're talking about. When you combine his inflated self-image with his cheapskate nature, the only possible outcome is that he will attempt to represent himself in court.

If he's as good a lawyer as he is a publisher, he'll probably get the chair.

[the4thpip]

He's not that old. I'm damn near as old as he is.

But anyway, this is Rick "Galloping Ego" Olney we're talking about. When you combine his inflated self-image with his cheapskate nature, the only possible outcome is that he will attempt to represent himself in court.

If he's as good a lawyer as he is a publisher, he'll probably get the chair.

He might try to pretend that he is just an unfrozen caveman.

[JTPencils]

He's not that old. I'm damn near as old as he is.

But anyway, this is Rick "Galloping Ego" Olney we're talking about. When you combine his inflated self-image with his cheapskate nature, the only possible outcome is that he will attempt to represent himself in court.

If he's as good a lawyer as he is a publisher, he'll probably get the chair.

If he represents himself (and he probably will... especially in any small claims case, where they tell you it's not really worth having representation... not that you can't.. but just not worth the cost)... I can just foresee him claiming...

RO: "Your honor...before we begin today's procedurings..."
Judge: "That's proceedings Mr Olney..."
RO: "Don't correct me, I am a world class writer, you'd know that if there weren't others out there holding me back... I know what I'm saying... Anyhow... my client, and by that I mean me... is mentally incompetent to stand trial... and I'd like to dismiss all charges on the fact that he... I mean me... is a moron...".
Judge: "Mr Olney, do you have this evaluation on competent authority?"
RO: "Yes sir I do, both my attorney and my psychiatrist have told me, I'm too dumb to live, and that I should probably consider locking myself into a small cave and live out my days as a hermit..."
Judge: "Can you produce these statements, or the persons who made them?"
RO: "That's IT, I'm suing you too Judge, you don't believe me? Why, because you wear a black dress, sissy boy? I SAID they told me this, that's all YOU need to know.."
Judge: "Mr Olney, there's no reason to go off the handle like that... we just want to satisfy the court's curiosity that this claim of incompetence is valid..."
RO: "You're all against me... I knew it! You... your honorarium, the plebe with the badge over there... You'll regret this Judgie, you're going to hear from my lawyer..."
Judge: "Who is??"
RO: "You don't need to KNOW that at this time... you'll be contacted by him though, I can promise you that... you'll hear from him eventually, and when you do..."
Judge: "Never mind Mr Olney, you've proven your point, you're a mental anomaly drawing breathe... The case will not be dismissed. Pay the people that you owe... and seriously consider having yourself put into clinical treatment." (gavel slam)

[Samuel Catalino]

We have RICK OLNEY'S WORDS to hang the fat bastard by. If nothing else, he has set himself up for perjury, depending on what story he goes with.

Matthew,

The only way RO will be set up for perjury is if he is ever questioned and lies under oath. And I doubt that he would testify in such a trial.

Best,

Samuel

[Samuel Catalino]

All I'm saying is you're talking about being realistic, on a comic book message board. I don't think anyone is getting in over their heads, I think they're just having a bit of fun.

I think it's great you're adding a little reality to it, but don't mistake 'wishful thinking' for people's honest belief. Rick having a prison sentence has the same chance of well, anything happening or not happening.

I think that regardless of what happens at the end of it all nothing but good can come of it. Do I think he'll go to jail? No, he's old, he's in bad health, any ambulence chaser could get him off with community service or house arrest or some such thing where he never sees the inside of a cell.

But hey, we can dream!

Danny,

Although we are on a comic message board, we are talking about serious issues, and that involves doses of realism.

High expectations lead to hard disappointments when the expectations are not met. Why set up such high expectations as such an early a stage.

Charges have not been filed against RO yet. And you can't do the time if you have not been dealt with your crime.

Yes, you can dream.

Best,

Samuel

[Danny Donovan]

Matthew,

The only way RO will be set up for perjury is if he is ever questioned and lies under oath. And I doubt that he would testify in such a trial.

Best,

Samuel

Not so Sam. See, if Rick were to be given a sworn affidavit, to file his grievances against those he claims he's going to sue. Or if those who plan on suing serve him affidavits, and what he places as sworn statements of fact turn out to be fabricated, well then he's committed perjury.

You don't need to be in a court of law to be done in by a court of law. Lying in legal papers, is the same as lying on the stand. It is still perjury to knowingly falsify information on legal documents.

So whether or not he sits before a judge and jury in any of this is irrelevent. If he stretches the truth on any official document, he will be dealt with by far more than "plebes". While he may not get locked up, he will be fined, and multiple infractions can lead him in contempt of court, which does have him locked away for a few days to think about what he's doing.

[Danny Donovan]

He's not that old. I'm damn near as old as he is.

But anyway, this is Rick "Galloping Ego" Olney we're talking about. When you combine his inflated self-image with his cheapskate nature, the only possible outcome is that he will attempt to represent himself in court.

If he's as good a lawyer as he is a publisher, he'll probably get the chair.

Mac, when I said "old" I didn't mean as in elderly, I just meant for the most part at a certain age courts tend to have a bleeding heart, unless you've committed murder or some horrendous crime. Say the law says for fraud cases of this kind, the thing is 15-20. Already in his late 50s and not in the best of health, a lawyer could argue that putting someone in his condition in a state pen could be considered a life sentence.

Now if he DOES represent himself, the court may not give a damn because he's pissed them off so much. But you'd be hard pressed to see him get a lot of time, at most, if convicted, perhaps 3 or 4 years with an extended probation time.

[TonyIsabella]

I'm so proud

Mr. Isabella,

Why do you remind me of a clogged toilet? Welcome to
the short list for actionable libel.

Rick Olney

I'm not going to respond to him, of course, but it's once again clear that he's talking without benefit of a lawyer.

It's not libel to express one's opinion, direct readers to a website where they can get details of a situation, and to caution readers against doing business with someone. All constitutionally-protected speech.

And, as I've said elsewhere and maybe even here, I hereby grant permission for anyone to repost my warning in the venues available to them.

I'm continuing to get grateful e-mails from folks who had not been priviously aware of Olney, so there remains a need to spread the word.

Tony

[AIPman1]

There will come a point, when he tries to sue EVERYONE IN THE WORLD, that he'll get to know the term "frivolous lawsuits" and won't be allowed to file them. When the judges have become familiar with all he has done, and all the evidence against him, he will most certainally be laughed out of court. Slander isn't slander if it's true. "didn't you just try to sue XXXXX for this same thing?" "Uh, yes judge, I tried to tell you they are ALL out to get me" - "Well, have you paid anyone yet?" - "Uh, no judge, I was told I have to settle all my court cases before I can." - "So, you're suing this person for saying you haven't paid anyone, and can't pay anyone until everyone stops saying you haven't paid anyone" - "That's right sir" - "Well...I suggest you go pay someone"

[Rick Olney]

I'm so proud



I'm not going to respond to him, of course, but it's once again clear that he's talking without benefit of a lawyer.

It's not libel to express one's opinion, direct readers to a website where they can get details of a situation, and to caution readers against doing business with someone. All constitutionally-protected speech.

And, as I've said elsewhere and maybe even here, I hereby grant permission for anyone to repost my warning in the venues available to them.

I'm continuing to get grateful e-mails from folks who had not been priviously aware of Olney, so there remains a need to spread the word.

Tony

Good. You'll need to produce them at some point and time.

[Rick Olney]

There will come a point, when he tries to sue EVERYONE IN THE WORLD, that he'll get to know the term "frivolous lawsuits" and won't be allowed to file them. When the judges have become familiar with all he has done, and all the evidence against him, he will most certainally be laughed out of court. Slander isn't slander if it's true. "didn't you just try to sue XXXXX for this same thing?" "Uh, yes judge, I tried to tell you they are ALL out to get me" - "Well, have you paid anyone yet?" - "Uh, no judge, I was told I have to settle all my court cases before I can." - "So, you're suing this person for saying you haven't paid anyone, and can't pay anyone until everyone stops saying you haven't paid anyone" - "That's right sir" - "Well...I suggest you go pay someone"

Don't worry...

[Typo Lad]

My jaw just dropped. I honestly was not expecting a return.

[Rick Olney]

As soon as he lists guest, I am contacting them. I will advise them to get payment up front and again, point them to RICK OLNEY'S OWN WORDS. Then, if they choose to go to his "con" (not that it will happen anyhow), it is on them alone. They will be informed.


Again, you've made some very bold and untrue claims. The lines of opinion were crossed here long ago. So, as the various actions on my side of this move forward and one by one the 'fruits' drop off the lie and smear tree here ... we'll indeed see who was truthful and factual versus shooting their mouth off.

Yeah, I'm slummin' ... figured I drop in and read a little. Heh. What losers you all are to allow yourselves to fall to heor worship and be sucked into legal problems by the "professionals" in this message thread and locked in with the UNSCREWED project.

Hard lesson coming for a bunch of you, folks...

[Rick Olney]

My jaw just dropped. I honestly was not expecting a return.

You of all people should know better! ;)

[NatGertler]

Don't worry...Oh, I think people here have plenty of reason not to worry when it comes to you, "Rick".

[Gail Simone]

Good. You'll need to produce them at some point and time.

Ten years of empty threats, deadbeat.

No one's scared of you. You're hilarious, but you're not scary.

As I said, at the con, you were the joke of the industry.

Gail