Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Momma Absurd]

wonder what he do when he order a pizza.

*tock tock*

*door open

"Hello,it's be 20,.."*grap box close door*

HEY! you have to pay for that!

"no one live here at the momemt,this is a recorder message."

"now go away before i sue you for trespasing."


OMG!!! This assessment of Rick is hilarious Hybrid, it would be even more so if it was in cartoon form!! Thanks so much for the laugh Hybrid, I needed it!!!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Well what seems as an obvious mental problem may not be, he might just be a someone that has raging control problems.

I am going with the theory that he is a loudmouth coward that talks a big game but would be lucky to clean up jockstraps.

"Dick": You are a lying loser. Your "company" is a joke. You are a joke. You have burned bridges with many influential comic creators. The longer you go on with your questionable (at best) business practices, the less chance you have of publishing anything.

As far as your going to MegaCon, I am not overly concerned about running into you, or your "surprise" (which is code for "childish, petty threat") You have a picture of me. You know what I look like, you creepy stalker.

You aren't fit for society. Do the right thing. Pay what you owe and shut the hell up.

Ass.

[websbestcomics]

Greats shades of Frederic Wertham!

Now, as far as "DangerDiabolik" ... I was told by the creative director that "Mr. WebsBest", who also is now a party to a forthcoming legal action, that there was NEVER any agreement for my company to pay the flatters fees. So that will have to be singled out and determined legally.



And I absolutely can't wait to be sued by you, Rick. Please make sure to have your checkbook ready to pay both of the unpaid invoices in the amount of $2400.00, for services rendered. I'll make sure to bring the stack of original inked art, color files, web site design files (screen captures, hardcopies, functioning web url of the preliminary site construction and all of the prelim designs on cd) and the many emails from you where you approved this work, acknowledged your debt, and instances of your numerous proven lies to me. I'll also bring the contract, which you agreed to and broke.

Interesting also that you mention your art director. Any chance you're going to pay him for his work?

And the hits just keeping coming.

[EdContradictory]

As far as your going to MegaCon, I am not overly concerned about running into you,
Like he can afford to go to MegaCon.

[DocAbsurd]

Has anyone been keeping track of exactly how many potential lawsuits he's admitted to over the past few days?

I figure he's been on the phone with his 'attorney' for the past 3 days straight. How do you explain to your legal advisor, 'Someone's demanding the money I owe them for work they completed. I wanna take them to court for outrageous claims and defamation of character'?

Better yet:

'This guy I used to work with helped me formulate an independent press group for creators. He created everything but the most basic of ideas for the group. It never went anywhere cuz I couldn't raise the funding for the projects he thought of. I gave it to him outright, but I wanna take it back cuz he's a plebe.'

Matlock'd be in ICU by now.




Doc 'Ill Legal' Absurd

[Matt Doc Martin]

Like he can afford to go to MegaCon.

He was supposedly getting a comp ticket. I forget whose name he dropped in connection with it. When he was talking with me, he implied TightLip would be a force at MegaCon, what with a table and such.

I expect I will pass him standing in line chatting up a Stormtrooper trying to bum a ticket in exchange for being mentioned in his great new comic.

[Dreadstar]

Note from an observer who really has no stake in this, at all:

Mr. Olney, I see tons of evidence against your version of the story. Where is your corroborative evidence?

[Momma Absurd]

There's numerous posts on here stating clearly I have the control of the ICC. Posts from you. Guess what? That's pretty much legally binding, a step-up from a word and a handshake. Wanna contest it? Go for it. Our attorney loves travel.

Or are you referring to my gesture of offering to make amends to those you've fecked over? Do you also have the not-for-profit angle locked up in an NDA?

I'd be choking on my own bile if I saw someone -- someone I owe money -- wanting to get together a benefit to try some sort of reimbursement for others I owe money. And those others are climbing by the day.

Stop speaking your slaughter-house version of Pig-Latin legalese and say what you mean. These veiled threats are getting tiresome.




Doc 'Up-ay Ours-yay' Absurd


Well if Mr. Onerititis is reading this I want him to understand that not only does Tim and my attorney come here and read the posts, I also send him copies of every reply he makes, to my attorney via email. When I go into my office tomorrow on campus I will personally go to the computer department lab and ask who the top person in forensic computer science is in the state and I will hire that person myself if need be to examine any computer we have to, to prove how badly you have treated these people. Saddam Hussein was hung Mr. Onery for being a tyrant and a bully, what makes you think your better than him? And another thing, DON'T YOU EVER THREATEN TIM WITH ANYTHING AGAIN, THIS OLD GAL CAN PLAY ROUGH TOO!! AND UNLIKE YOUR CRAP, I BACK UP WHAT I SAY!!

[bert]

It's all true!

There's more though.

Rick, being a truly humble soul, has for many years not related the tale of the other Star Wars character he inspired.

Yep, you guess it...

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/Zapow21/Just%20Stuff/crumb1.jpg

wow. . and after the way Rick has been acting in this thread (and the way the eveidence seems to be stacking up against him). . . .

I was SURE that was gonna be a pic of:

"the Sarlac Pit"
http://www.erikstormtrooper.com/sarlacc.jpg

Even as a young boy, I knew a great big asshole when I saw it.

[Matt Doc Martin]

That is somewhat disturbing....

[bert]

That is somewhat disturbing....

Innit tho?

(wait. . do you mean that the game actually exists, and is a licensed product -- Boba Fett and the Sarlac Pit game --

or do you mean the resemblance ?)

[Momma Absurd]

wow. . and after the way Rick has been acting in this thread (and the way the eveidence seems to be stacking up against him). . . .

I was SURE that was gonna be a pic of:

"the Sarlac Pit"
http://www.erikstormtrooper.com/sarlacc.jpg

Even as a young boy, I knew a great big asshole when I saw it.

ewwwwwwwwww this goes far beyond disturbing ewwwwwwwwwwwww

[bert]

ewwwwwwwwww this goes far beyond disturbing ewwwwwwwwwwwww

Well, I didn't mean for George Lucas to derail this thread!

this *is* a real game, that's just a shot of the playing board:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.erikstormtrooper.com/sarlac2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.erikstormtrooper.com/sarlaccgame.htm&h=584&w=976&sz=126&hl=en&start=12&tbnid=6CAwO-OMa2JT1M:&tbnh=89&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsarlac%2Bpit%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%2 6lr%3D%26sa%3DG

[DangerDiabolik]

ewe........ lol

[TCJohnson]

IMPORTANT GEEK KNOWLEDGE!

When you are printing out these e-mails, be sure to include a header with them. They can look something like this:

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With GMail, it will not give "Rick's" ip address or identify Rick's computer, but it will prove that it came from his account. I can tell you how to get these from Microsoft Outlook...not sure about gmail or yahoo e-mail.

[Momma Absurd]

IMPORTANT GEEK KNOWLEDGE!

When you are printing out these e-mails, be sure to include a header with them. They can look something like this:



With GMail, it will not give "Rick's" ip address or identify Rick's computer, but it will prove that it came from his account. I can tell you how to get these from Microsoft Outlook...not sure about gmail or yahoo e-mail.


You can get an IP tracker for free on some Yahoo sites I have an IP changer but the tracker can trace the exact location from where the computer is located...

[Matt Doc Martin]

Would it even get that technical in civil court? I would think the preponderance of evidence weighing against him would negate the need for computer experts and such. After all, there is evidence of work being done and it would be on him to prove payment...which he would NOT be able to do.

Most likely he would be responsible for proving that he did not write any emails or board responses.

[Matt Doc Martin]

You can get an IP tracker for free on some Yahoo sites I have an IP changer but the tracker can trace the exact location from where the computer is located...

It would be a hoot if he was posting from Bellevue.

[Momma Absurd]

It would be a hoot if he was posting from Bellevue.


omg!!! *laughing hysterically*

[TCJohnson]

Would it even get that technical in civil court? I would think the preponderance of evidence weighing against him would negate the need for computer experts and such. After all, there is evidence of work being done and it would be on him to prove payment...which he would NOT be able to do.

Most likely he would be responsible for proving that he did not write any emails or board responses.

Well, "Rick" is claiming that all of Gail's e-mails are forgeries...and to be honest from what she is printing there is no proof they are real. This is the information you would need to prove the e-mails are real. You might not actually need it, but wouldn't you rather have it if you do?

[Momma Absurd]

Well, "Rick" is claiming that all of Gail's e-mails are forgeries...and to be honest from what she is printing there is no proof they are real. This is the information you would need to prove the e-mails are real. You might not actually need it, but wouldn't you rather have it if you do?



I have seen on here where she has posted the top parts of the emails to and from and they are real. I have seen 2 of them, but I haven't been all over the boards and read every post, so there may be more.

[Gail Simone]

Good idea, Tcj. And of course, I will BE HAPPY TO DO AS YOU SUGGEST.

See Rick? When you tell the truth, you can back it up 100%.

Which I can and will, gladly.

And I'm sure the others who have come forward have emails just like mine.


Gail

[DocAbsurd]

It would be a hoot if he was posting from Bellevue.

Jack Nicholson starring as 'Rick Olney' in One Signed an NDA in the Cuckoo's Nest.

Starring a cast of unpaid thousands.




Doc 'Cattle Call' Absurd

[TCJohnson]

This reminds me of an old Klingon fable:


Sorry but...

NERRRRRRRD!!!!!

Said with all due respect.

[Crowley]

how the hell did he read my post and come back with Frederic Wertham?

I mean that's a real special kind of foolishness there...

[THEDOC]

Trying to figure out something but can anyone tell me when Rick started using that Avatar and has he ever used it before?

[Matt Doc Martin]

how the hell did he read my post and come back with Frederic Wertham?

I mean that's a real special kind of foolishness there...

Remind me I owe you a cigar.

[the4thpip]

Tim,
I hearily encourage you to do whatever you like with the "ICC" ... as it might not be as free and clear of 'Hurricane Rick' according to what I was told Friday morning. But go ahead and work hard at it. I suspect you've earned what comes to you deservingly from here on out.

Happy New Year. ;)

I "hearily" encourage you to download Firefox 2.0 which has a spellchecker for posting on message boards and writing emails. It might cover up your lack of intelligence at least a little.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I "hearily" encourage you to download Firefox 2.0 which has a spellchecker for posting on message boards and writing emails. It might cover up your lack of intelligence at least a little.

It is just a browser program. It is not a genetic upgrade.

[the4thpip]

Yeah, Rick, all she needs to do is turn her computer over to a computer forensic expert who can 100% verify that everything is real and untampered with.

You can prove that electronic communication is legit.

And it does hold up in court.

You're immensely screwed.

With yahoo mails that are still on yahoo's server, it's even easier than that. Don't have to move any hardware when you used a web-based mail service.

[TCJohnson]

With yahoo mails that are still on yahoo's server, it's even easier than that. Don't have to move any hardware when you used a web-based mail service.

That is true in Gmail too. ANd all you need to do is go to the e-mail, hit the down arrow near reply and choose original message. This will verify where the e-mail originated from.

[FantomasPR]

It is just a browser program. It is not a genetic upgrade.

That was funny as hell. Well played.

[Rynehawk]

Hi all. I've been reading this tread for a few days now and it's actually gotten me to crawl out of the lurking shadows. It's extremely irritating to watch someone so willing to screw over so many people and then, when those getting screwed finally stand up and say "enough is enough", to threaten them with ridiculous claims of litigation. I simply had to say my piece here or be doomed to keep reading this thread every 30 minutes and slam my head on the desk.

I am not a comic professional. I will never be a comic professional. However, I do know what it takes to be a professional in other areas of business as well as what it takes to be, at least, a decent human being.

Rick Olney, you are neither of these things.

I personally know none of the people in this thread, but I do recognize a few names. All of them, Rick, have the same basic complaint about you and your "company". I find it very difficult to believe all of them are lying for the sole purpose of making you look bad.

You make yourself look bad. You pump your chest over and over about "Tightlip Entertainment", "Mighty Mini-Con" and "OrcaFresh" as well as make some very bold claims regarding your presence in the comic book world (Ric Olie).

Rick, do you even know what your companies/projects look like to a comic fan like me? Go look at www.orcafresh.org, www.mightyminicon.com or www.tightlipentertainment.com some time. Instead of spending all of your time threatening to sue people, try actually doing some work for a change. You better get used to it, because I don't think you'll find anyone else to work for you again. Try googling your name some time. Let's just say its not good for you (but great for everyone else) that this thread and others that call out your dishonest practices are on page one.

Sadly, for you, finding people to work for you may be only half of your problem. I can't speak for anyone else, but now that I know your name and your story I will actively avoid anything that you or companies you run/work for are attached to. I don't think that's going to be too difficult for me seeing as the odds of you actually finishing anything you start are next to none, but know that even if the moon and the stars all align and you actually manage to produce some semblance of a sellable product, I for one will avoid it like the plague.

You'd be surprised what being honest and up-front can do for you. You'd be doubly surprised what you'd get if you were those things in addition to being nice. A perfect example would be Tom Stillwell who posts here. I wouldn't know him if I knocked him down in the street. We've never even exchanged messages before. Yet, I've read his posts about 'Honor Brigade' and all the work it's taken him to get that comic produced and now it's even in Previews. It's obvious Tom has put a lot of work into his comic in addition to taking care of all those involved in the project. You know what? I asked my LCS to add it to my pull list. I haven't read a single issue yet, but I wanted to do my part in letting someone like Tom know (through actual action, not words) hard work can and will pay off.

That's what happens when you do things the right way. It's called being a professional. Something you know absolutely nothing about.

Phew. I feel much better now. Back to the shadows for me!

[Crowley]

Greats shades of Frederic Wertham!
Mr. Crowley, I have never been outgunned.
Actually, allow me to correct you... you are, Sir.
You have multiple complaints within this thread
and no one soul has spoke up to defend you.

You're a Star Wars fan right? Remember Han
running down the hallway chased by the Storm Troopers?

That's you right now.


While loosely reading through this thread -- I discovered that manyt of you have indeed done Frederic Wertham proud, as you've given proff to his remarks and theory on "Superman's Complex" as he attacked Superman in particular, describing what he called "the Superman complex" in which comics offered children "fantasies of sadistic joy in seeing other people punished over and over again while you yourself remain immune." lol The children have grown up!
you're quoting Wertham? I mean really?
He also believed that Batman and Robin's
father-son relationship was actually a
model for the NAMBLA outfit.

Wertham was an enemy to all comic book
creators and did irreparable damage to the
industry at the time. Part of that loon
McCarthy's House of UnAmerican activities
groupthink... and you want to quote him?

really?

Now, as far as "DangerDiabolik" ... I was told by the creative director that "Mr. WebsBest", who also is now a party to a forthcoming legal action, that there was NEVER any agreement for my company to pay the flatters fees. So that will have to be singled out and determined legally.

WHOA... so keeping with your
modus operandi you acknowledge that
you hired flatters and now had decided
not to pay them? Or are you again
retroactively deciding that they were
never to be payed?
and way to inform them here...
very professional.

"Gail" -- throw up some more of those phoney emails and list any of those other numerous names of people that you early on claimed were contacting you left and right.
why does she need to?

they're showing up here...

[Hybrid2]

OMG!!! This assessment of Rick is hilarious Hybrid, it would be even more so if it was in cartoon form!! Thanks so much for the laugh Hybrid, I needed it!!!
You made my day.Thanks.

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[TomStillwell]

I'm formulating a bit of an idea here, something to help everyone who's been screwed by Rick over the years.

I'm not gonna give too many details yet, simply because I've got a lotta details to work out. But what if the ICC's first official project were to be some sort of fund-raiser?

We could gather a bunch of contributors together to make a one-sheet calendar and accompanying anthology, and proceeds would go to benefit those hurt by 'Hurricane Rick' (not including myself; it's a write-off, far as I'm concerned).

I'd have to find a publisher/printer, get together the talent, design the calendar . . . like I said, a lotta details.

I'd need some sort of list of who's been affected for a start.




Doc 'Red Cross' Absurd

Doc, I'll gladly donate anything I can to help out the folks who have been stiffed.

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[DrewEdwards]

Wow! I found this thread via a link a friend of mine posted on another forum. All I can is that it's a really small world.

I've actually had personal run ins with this guy. He wanted my wife and I to appear at a con of his a few years back. To make a long story short, the whole thing blew up in his face. It was a bad experience, but it could have been worse.

I am also friendly with Ronee. I was worried about Ronee when she got involved with him. But I didn't think to it to big a deal at the time.

From my personal experience he seemed well meaning enough, but fool hardy and a big talker w/o the means to back it up. I had no idea so many other people had been burnt by him as well. I guess I was giving him to much credit. Interesting and sad.

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh, please allude all you each please. I'm just sitting here racking up the points.


*smacks nose with paper*

Bad Dick. Be quiet, Dick.

[EdContradictory]

And "Gail" those emails are not real. Probably something you or some of your plebes concocted.

Wow. They're right. You are nuts.

I thought you were just cheap.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Mr.Olney I don't really think you need to keep loggin in and out to post comments on the board. I mean...I really doubt someone would send you a PM from here.

But as I posted earlier , what can you gain by sueing those who want paid ? I mean what else will you gain by doing costly legal action against them ?

[Hybrid2]

*smacks nose with paper*

Bad Dick. Be quiet, Dick.

Are you is lawyer?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Are you is lawyer?

*checks wallet*

Nope. He hasn't paid me.

[EdContradictory]

No there wasn't, long as you're talking about teachers and school districts allowing talks and lesson plans on comic books in the classrooms.
What are you even talking about?

Please give us an example of a lesson plan, based on comic books, that you were instrumental in getting created.

Put up or shut up.

Please shut up.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Mr.Olney I don't really think you need to keep loggin in and out to post comments on the board. I mean...I really doubt someone would send you a PM from here.



I did once. I wanted to see if the chump was actually going to MegaCon.

[Sarah Beach]

Okay, my mind is boggling at the mere idea that Gail would bother to concoct forged emails!!! This, after his repeated requests that she start posting some of his communications. She does as he requests, and now she's forging them? Dude, she's got LOTS better things to do with her time!

As for his repeated requests that she name names of those who are contacting her -- I see no reason why she should. Particularly if the third parties don't want to go public at this time on their own. Why should she abuse their confidences, just to satisfy the curiousity of Himself? Pah!

Since he's been checking in here... I'd be interested if HE could name ONE PERSON who has actually been paid for work, other than his lawyer. Surely, since that person HAS been paid, they're not in danger of losing any (potential) income by revealing the fact that they have been paid. And in this case, I'm not talking about pros invited to cons, I'm talking about those who have delivered work to Mr. Olney and/or any of his institutions.

There, sir. ONE NAME. Do tell us.

[TCJohnson]

*smacks nose with paper*

Bad Dick. Be quiet, Dick.

Ok, please stop. My ribs are hurting.

[the4thpip]

No there wasn't, long as you're talking about teachers and school districts allowing talks and lesson plans on comic books in the classrooms.

I had comics in my classroom back when I was 10 in 1981. Even wrote a test about them.


Oops, gave away my age. :p

[Sarah Beach]

What are you even talking about?

Please give us an example of a lesson plan, based on comic books, that you were instrumental in getting created.

Put up or shut up.

Please shut up.

Don't you know? Haven't you realized it? NO ONE ever had the idea to use comic books in classrooms for any purpose before he descended from Heaven to enlighten us poor deluded, unimaginative "plebes". Such god-like inspiration requires that we bow before his unique, un-obvious, SINGLE concept.

Ow! Ow! Ow! (Sorry, banging my head on my desk there. Where does he get this idea that nobody had or ever would have thought of it, independant of him?)

[TCJohnson]

I had comics in my classroom back when I was 10 in 1981. Even wrote a test about them.


Oops, gave away my age. :p

Same here...back when I was 8 or 9 in the late 70s.

[EdContradictory]

Don't you know? Haven't you realized it? NO ONE ever had the idea to use comic books in classrooms for any purpose before he descended from Heaven to enlighten us poor deluded, unimaginative "plebes".

Then he travelled back in time and created Classics Illustrated?!

It all makes sense now!

[the4thpip]

Same here...back when I was 8 or 9 in the late 70s.

And I'm telling you, Mr. Fries knew how to suck the fun out of comics. He never claimed that a certain Batman villain was named after him, though.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Then he travelled back in time and created Classics Illustrated?!

It all makes sense now!

He is apparently from the land-before-deodorant.

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[the4thpip]

Sadly, I don't have time tonite to share much, as I'm getting ready to go to a New Years Eve party.

Pay for your drinks, Dick. For a change.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I still can't understand what the thought process is for those who want paid and are being told their gonna be sued. I still can't figure out what someone would win from this . Your already denying them payment. What else could you really win ?

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'm afraid that many of you wouldn't be able to associate a lesson plan with an actual classroom environment and how sequential art actually stimulates problem readers to help them overcome their reading and comprehension difficulties. Sadly, I don't have time tonite to share much, as I'm getting ready to go to a New Years Eve party. But maybe tomorrow.

Please go on with your meaningless blither blather though, okay? Especially you. Ms. Beach. I love it when the over educated talk stupid.

You discussing "talking stupid" is what the little people like to call "irony".

You are what the little people also like to call "jackass".

[TomStillwell]

I'm afraid that many of you wouldn't be able to associate a lesson plan with an actual classroom environment and how sequential art actually stimulates problem readers to help them overcome their reading and comprehension difficulties. Sadly, I don't have time tonite to share much, as I'm getting ready to go to a New Years Eve party. But maybe tomorrow.

Please go on with your meaningless blither blather though, okay? Especially you. Ms. Beach. I love it when the over educated talk stupid.

Yes, please educate us. My wife, the teacher, is really interested in your discussion on lesson planning.:rolleyes:

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[EdContradictory]

I'm afraid that many of you wouldn't be able to associate a lesson plan with an actual classroom environment and how sequential art actually stimulates problem readers to help them overcome their reading and comprehension difficulties.
No. We all realize that. But I suspect you don't know why.

And educators have also known this for a long, long time.

Which is why comics have been used for that and other purposes for decades.

You created... nothing.

[Sarah Beach]

I'm afraid that many of you wouldn't be able to associate a lesson plan with an actual classroom environment and how sequential art actually stimulates problem readers to help them overcome their reading and comprehension difficulties. Sadly, I don't have time tonite to share much, as I'm getting ready to go to a New Years Eve party. But maybe tomorrow.

Please go on with your meaningless blither blather though, okay? Especially you. Ms. Beach. I love it when the over educated talk stupid.

Sheesh. Like none of us recognize that comics would be a great help to dyslexic readers, what with the images to reinforce the words. No, there's no way we'd be able to make that tremendous leap of logic.

As for the latest feeble insult directed my way --- BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, check. Can't distinguish "over educated talk stupid" from "over educated being VERY sarcastic. Right. Got it.

As for "before my time" --- HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You know nothing about me. "Before my time". Heh.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Man, I love Halloweenman! Combines horror, comics, and superheroes... my three favorite things!

Just had to throw that in there!

Wil
:D


Wow! I found this thread via a link a friend of mine posted on another forum. All I can is that it's a really small world.

I've actually had personal run ins with this guy. He wanted my wife and I to appear at a con of his a few years back. To make a long story short, the whole thing blew up in his face. It was a bad experience, but it could have been worse.

I am also friendly with Ronee. I was worried about Ronee when she got involved with him. But I didn't think to it to big a deal at the time.

From my personal experience he seemed well meaning enough, but fool hardy and a big talker w/o the means to back it up. I had no idea so many other people had been burnt by him as well. I guess I was giving him to much credit. Interesting and sad.

[Magneto_X]

Pay for your drinks, Dick. For a change.

He's the one *serving* the drinks, not buying them. ;)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

If ya pull up Google.com and search under Rick Olney's name this thread is on the 1st search page. I just wanted to share this with everyone.

[Crowley]

No, not really Crowley... you just need to read it.
So this post regarding your now destroyed reputation:
Here's the bit that baffles me...

Gail Simone
Chuck Dixon
Michael Netzer
Val Staples

Four pros all saying the same thing.
Plus several other people within this thread.

PLUS and Rick should really listen here:

OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE
COMIC BOOK INDUSTRY
HAVE READ AND DO READ
THIS FORUM.

Martin Pasko,
Ian Boothby,
Kurt Busiek,
Mark Waid,
Brian Michael Bendis,
Warren Ellis

and several others are bound to read this
thread when Rich inevitably posts it on LITG.

I mean christ almighty... they have reputations... they have years of work behind them and you REALLY think you can simly slag them off here and not pay people and do you honestly think ANYONE will EVER work for you again?
or do ANYTHING with your name attached to it EVER again?

You could win the lotto tommorow and you'd be lucky if anyone ever did a lick of work for you again... your reputation is garbage and you'll never be able to come out of it unless you drop your fascade and really start apologizing now!

It's really time to stop fucking around... you can imagine that you're in the right... but you realize that the evidence is against you here?
I'm no judge or lawyer... but when the number of witnesses, lawsuits and clients for the prosecution outnumbers those for the defense... it's not looking pretty...

or in terms you might get...

you're outgunned...

brought you to Wertham? whom you quote.
who, by the way, is regarded as a total loon.

[the4thpip]

If ya pull up Google.com and search under Rick Olney's name this thread is on the 1st search page. I just wanted to share this with everyone.

... and when you do "rick olney fraud" it's the #1 hit.

[Crowley]

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Quote and Reply... we can get it to number 1.

[Scott Shaw!]

Mr.Olney I don't really think you need to keep loggin in and out to post comments on the board.

Ahh, but you fail to understand how Mr. Olney's alleged mind works. When he saw that the activity in this thread was slowing down, he simply HAD to drop by to stir the shit. After all, he just can't stand to see a thread bearing his name not retaining its position at the top of the topic-list. Believe me, this pattern isn't new, as Rick Veitch or Kim Thompson will verify. Rick Olney would throw a baby under a bus if it would garner enough attention for him to suck up. This has been Rick's pattern -- at least on the Internet -- for nearly ten years.

Rick V. and Kim can also verify that the whole issue of you suing people is utter bullshit. You've waved around this threat before on their message boards and they amounted to no effect whatsoever. Your "lawyer" must be about as real as those nonexistant identities you've previously concocted to agree with your posted opinions -- especially if he's getting paid.

As for your track record in paying industry professionals for their work, congratulations, Rick. You've officially made the leap from "public nuisance" to "deadbeat (non-) publisher". And accordingly, your name shoots to the top of many other lists within the comics business in the "non-paying lunatics to avoid at all costs" category. You've MADE IT, man!

After all, there's no such thing as bad publicity in the entertainment business, right, Rick?

Aloha,

Scott!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

... and when you do "rick olney fraud" it's the #1 hit.

I really can't understand how it would impact someone to see a Google search pull up something bad on themselves. A thread like this for instance . How would impact someone to see countless pages of people asking for money they are owed .

It to me would hurt you as a pro in this industry.

[Crowley]

it's funny because in the end... Rick will end up paying in reputation far more than he would have if he had just payed Chuck, Val and Ronee.

[the4thpip]

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Quote and Reply... we can get it to number 1.

I don't think that's how google works anymore. If this thread shows up high on the list of hits, it's because many other sites link to it.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Ahh, but you fail to understand how Mr. Olney's alleged mind works. When he saw that the activity in this thread was slowing down, he simply HAD to drop by to stir the shit. After all, he just can't stand to see a thread bearing his name not retaining its position at the top of the topic-list. Believe me, this pattern isn't new, as Rick Veitch or Kim Thompson will verify. Rick Olney would throw a baby under a bus if it would garner enough attention for him to suck up. This has been Rick's pattern -- at least on the Internet -- for nearly ten years.

Rick V. and Kim can also verify that the whole issue of you suing people is utter bullshit. You've waved around this threat before on their message boards and they amounted to no effect whatsoever. Your "lawyer" must be about as real as those nonexistant identities you've previously concocted to agree with your posted opinions -- especially if he's getting paid.

As for your track record in paying industry professionals for their work, congratulations, Rick. You've officially made the leap from "public nuisance" to "exploitor of creators". And accordingly, your name shoots to the top of many other lists within the comics business in the "non-paying lunatics to avoid at all costs" category. You've MADE IT, man!

After all, there's no such thing as bad publicity in the entertainment business, right, Rick?

Aloha,

Scott!

Good point about bad publicity at least being in the enertainment business. But beyond the classroom work he claims and Orca , what has he done in this industry ? I mean the publishing of comics ?

Mel Gibson got busted for being a drunk jackass . But people could at least point out that even though Gibson was an idiot he had his miles of film work to back him up. In his industry to at least prop him up on.

But what does Rick Olney have to prop himself up on ? Besides claiming a Jedi was named after him and Orca's work in schools. He's taking tons of heat in this industry and he really doesn't have much work to back him up. ;)

[Scott Shaw!]

But beyond the classroom work he claims and Orca , what has he done in this industry ? I mean the publishing of comics?

Well, here on Earth-Prime, nothin'. Nada. Zero. Zilch.

But on Earth-Olney (deep in the recesses of his skull), Rick's the equivalent of Jack Kirby, Phil Seuling and Jerry Bails, all rolled together! Just ask 'im!

Aloha,

Scott!

[AIPman1]

Sheesh. Like none of us recognize that comics would be a great help to dyslexic readers, what with the images to reinforce the words. No, there's no way we'd be able to make that tremendous leap of logic.

Speaking as a dyslexic person who learned to read through comic books on my own - I know for a fact Rick Olney had nothing to do with that. It was 1984. My teachers took notice though.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well, here on Earth-Prime, nothin'. Nada. Zero. Zilch.

But on Earth-Olney (deep in the recesses of his skull), Rick's the equivalent of Jack Kirby, Phil Seuling and Jerry Bails, all rolled together! Just ask 'im!

Aloha,

Scott!

Ha ha...on Earth-ECW , I am married to Trish Stratus and hero to the many. Now how do I get back on Earth-ECW ? :p

[Kurt Busiek]

Another suggestion:

Get the various contributors to these books together and sell the stories to someone else. If a writer, penciler, inker, letterer and colorist all worked on something and none of you got paid, shop it around. Change any details that came from Tightlip and get paid by someone else.

He has no grounds to sue. The contract is void. For those of you who have contracts, satisfy the "Notices" section (if there even is one) by sending a registered letter saying that he's got 30 days to pay or you're selling the story elsewhere. When he doesn't pay, sell it elsewhere.

There's no need to feel held hostage -- what he doesn't pay for, he doesn't own any rights to. Basic contract law. Heck, the publicity involved in bringing together screwed creators to publish DEADBEAT COMICS would bring in a lot of readers wanting to support you guys.

kdb

[AIPman1]

In fact, I originally came into contact with Rick Olney BECAUSE I sought out people to help the SPA develop a program for reaching kids learning to read through comics, based on my own experience as a kid. ugh, lesson learned indeed.

[Momma Absurd]

If you can... could you also have your attorney take a look at: http://www.comicspace.com/

all avenues that can be closed off from him defrauding people would be good.

Sent and done......thanks for the link

Momma

[Momma Absurd]

Same here...back when I was 8 or 9 in the late 70s.

When I was in grade school second, third @4th grade our teachers passed out comics as a way to encourage early reading and drawing skills. That was in 1977, so yea I'm old but like wine I age well.......:D

[Momma Absurd]

Same here...back when I was 8 or 9 in the late 70s.

When I was in grade school second, third @4th grade our teachers passed out comics as a way to encourage early reading and drawing skills. That was in 1977, so yea I'm old but like wine I age well.......:D

[Night Swordsman]

Another suggestion:

Get the various contributors to these books together and sell the stories to someone else. If a writer, penciler, inker, letterer and colorist all worked on something and none of you got paid, shop it around. Change any details that came from Tightlip and get paid by someone else.

He has no grounds to sue. The contract is void. For those of you who have contracts, satisfy the "Notices" section (if there even is one) by sending a registered letter saying that he's got 30 days to pay or you're selling the story elsewhere. When he doesn't pay, sell it elsewhere.

There's no need to feel held hostage -- what he doesn't pay for, he doesn't own any rights to. Basic contract law. Heck, the publicity involved in bringing together screwed creators to publish DEADBEAT COMICS would bring in a lot of readers wanting to support you guys.

kdb


THIS is genius. Super-Kurt to the rescue.
I am just wondering how many of his victims would be willing to do this,i wonder?

[Kurt Busiek]

THIS is genius. Super-Kurt to the rescue.
I am just wondering how many of his victims would be willing to do this,i wonder?

A lot of 'em have piped up -- I bet the others can be found.

And it's a way to get the work in print and get paid something. What creator wouldn't want that?

kdb

[SUPERECWFAN1]

A lot of 'em have piped up -- I bet the others can be found.

And it's a way to get the work in print and get paid something. What creator wouldn't want that?

kdb

And its a pretty good way to send a big FU to someone as well. I wonder what Olney will say if they do what you suggest Kurt ?

[DrewEdwards]

Man, I love Halloweenman! Combines horror, comics, and superheroes... my three favorite things!

Just had to throw that in there!

Wil
:D



You're welcome. Buy the trade. ;)

[Night Swordsman]

A lot of 'em have piped up -- I bet the others can be found.

And it's a way to get the work in print and get paid something. What creator wouldn't want that?

kdb

I totally agree. I also know this work WOULD find a audience,and many people on these forumns would BUY this soley for the double pleasure of helping out great creators who have GIVEN us alot in the past AND telling Mr. Olney what we think of his disreputable business practices.


But i also wish to add something. Seems we are also feeding his ego,as he is getting some perverse enjoyment from reading about himself. I really have NO desire to feed the troll,or worse to engage in a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed. Sure..we can all slam him and stroke his ego while he comes in,insults us,stirs us up,and then goes on his merry way. I rather hope this thread can become a POSITIVE,showing information on this whole mess,a quick way for artists who have been wronged by Mr. Olney to contact each other quickly,and as Kurt suggested,to come up with creative ideas for positive resolutions to this situation that are emotionally and finacially rewarding to those who were wronged.

Yes..we can continue to insult Mr Olney and point out his many faults. But that more or less sinks us to his level. I rather get EVEN,not mad.

[Momma Absurd]

No there wasn't, long as you're talking about teachers and school districts allowing talks and lesson plans on comic books in the classrooms.


ONERY you are out of your ever loving bleeding mind!!! In 1977, when I was in second grade we were given comics to help boost the love of reading and our art skills. Our teacher would put different comics on an overhead projector and show us how the cartoon was drawn and then ONERY each child was given 30 minutes of free read time in which comics were what we all sat and read from!!


You sir are an egotistical glory-hog control freak wannabe.....not to mention a blathering idiot......

[Wil Radcliffe]

I would, if I had money. ;)

You're welcome. Buy the trade. ;)

[DrewEdwards]

I would, if I had money. ;)

Then you're in luck because it comes out next fall. Save up. It'll be worth it for the Nicola Scott art work alone. I hear the writing doesn't suck it up to much though. ;)

You're really in luck because the other big Halloween Man project next year is gonna be free. :)

[Night Swordsman]

Then you're in luck because it comes out next fall. Save up. It'll be worth it for the Nicola Scott art work alone. I hear the writing doesn't suck it up to much though. ;)

You're really in luck because the other big Halloween Man project next year is gonna be free. :)

Perk? FCBD? Perk???

[TCJohnson]

Well, here on Earth-Prime, nothin'. Nada. Zero. Zilch.

But on Earth-Olney (deep in the recesses of his skull), Rick's the equivalent of Jack Kirby, Phil Seuling and Jerry Bails, all rolled together! Just ask 'im!

Aloha,

Scott!


Eh, he did have a couple of conventions going, right? Mighty MiniCon?

[shanejayell]

Or maybe online? :)

[TCJohnson]

Oh, please allude all you each please. I'm just sitting here racking up the points.

When he gets 1,000 points he is going to win a Nintendo 64.

C'Mon, Orca, we are all rooting for you!

[OzBat!]

Each creator involved with work for non-payment needs to do as Kurt suggests and send that registered notice, immediately. This will force Olney to make a move, either legally or payment-wise, instead of putting us all to sleep with constant talk and promises one way or the other. Force a finish to this pathetically bad soap opera, and stop feeding the troll's hyper-inflated need for attention.

[TomStillwell]

Speaking as a dyslexic person who learned to read through comic books on my own - I know for a fact Rick Olney had nothing to do with that. It was 1984. My teachers took notice though.

That goes for me too. My teacher used comics to help with my Dyslexia. In the late 70s.

[TomStillwell]

A lot of 'em have piped up -- I bet the others can be found.

And it's a way to get the work in print and get paid something. What creator wouldn't want that?

kdb

I'm wondering if Olney even owns Tales of The Spooky anymore. Did he pay anyone who worked on it?

Take that back from him and sell it to Image or someone.

Minus anything he personally may have created, of course. It would improve the product anyway.

[Pia Guerra]

In 1981 our grade 4 class used comics as a part of the ancient Greece block. The teacher passed out copies of the Clash of the Titans adaptation and everyone thought it was the coolest thing.

Later in grade 10 we had 20 minutes independent reading every morning before classes started and comics were always welcomed.

This idea isn't new Dick, it started with Classics Illustrated and has gradually gained steam until now you can find University courses devoted to comics. Let me tell you how I know this Dick, Brian and I have been hearing from students and faculty all over the US and Canada about how Y has been included in their own curriculums, some about comics, some about social issues using comics to illustrate their points. In fact, later this month I'll be doing a lecture at UBC for their sequential art studies class.

This had nothing to do with you Dick. If anything it was greater men like Art Spiegleman winning the Pulitzer for Maus that brought comics into the spotlight as a legitimate teaching medium.

God, you just keep digging don't you?

[Momma Absurd]

As someone who taught on the elementary school level and who is currently a professor teaching psychology and family studies at a major university, I guess I don't have a clue as to what I am speaking about either huh? I guess I need to fold my tent and hush as well. :rolleyes:

[THEDOC]

Ha ha...on Earth-ECW , I am married to Trish Stratus and hero to the many. Now how do I get back on Earth-ECW ? :p
Well on Earth-DX we just have two words for Mr. Olney.

[THEDOC]

Eh, he did have a couple of conventions going, right? Mighty MiniCon?
From what I have read, yes he has and was probably successful at first. What has happened to him between then and now is only speculation.
I even offered a couple of artists for his show in '04 one was Alex Nino and the other Tim Gula but of course Rick never got a hold of them then the thing fell through. I think (Doc_A (Tim) can back me up on that.

[Froggy]

wow. I've never heard of dude before today but reading the articles, he seems like a superdouchebag....................big itme!

[Kurt Busiek]

And its a pretty good way to send a big FU to someone as well.

Heh. Call the collection of creators FU Entertainment.

I wonder what Olney will say if they do what you suggest Kurt ?

Probably splutter a lot but do nothing.

kdb

[Kurt Busiek]

I totally agree. I also know this work WOULD find a audience,and many people on these forumns would BUY this soley for the double pleasure of helping out great creators who have GIVEN us alot in the past AND telling Mr. Olney what we think of his disreputable business practices.

Heck, those game reviews and columns and such could go in the books, too...

kdb

[Kurt Busiek]

Each creator involved with work for non-payment needs to do as Kurt suggests and send that registered notice, immediately. This will force Olney to make a move, either legally or payment-wise, instead of putting us all to sleep with constant talk and promises one way or the other.

Actually, no -- the point of it is not to force him to do anything, but to serve notice that you're going to proceed on your own when he doesn't do anything, and when you publish elsewhere, he can't claim surprise, nor can he claim that he wasn't allowed to make good on the contract breach.

So the idea is to serve legal notice that you consider the contract breached and terminated. It's the fact of him not making a move that then leaves you clear to proceed.

The reason it's worth getting the whole creative team in on it ahead of time is that while the writers could sell the scripts elsewhere solo, the artists' work is based on the script, the lettering, the coloring, etc. is all something that can't be sold elsewhere independently. But if everyone agrees to sell it elsewhere as a package, you've got a finished work, one you can sell with minor modifications -- delete any "host" character, change a name or two, and there you go.

Gail's got e-mail addresses, so an e-mail group could be set up (or a Yahoo private group, or whatever), where the FU Entertainment gang (FatLip Comics?) could converse and work out plans together.

kdb

[Matt Doc Martin]

My new year's resolution is to see the screws put to this jackass.

[DocAbsurd]

Another suggestion:

Get the various contributors to these books together and sell the stories to someone else. If a writer, penciler, inker, letterer and colorist all worked on something and none of you got paid, shop it around. Change any details that came from Tightlip and get paid by someone else.

He has no grounds to sue. The contract is void. For those of you who have contracts, satisfy the "Notices" section (if there even is one) by sending a registered letter saying that he's got 30 days to pay or you're selling the story elsewhere. When he doesn't pay, sell it elsewhere.

There's no need to feel held hostage -- what he doesn't pay for, he doesn't own any rights to. Basic contract law. Heck, the publicity involved in bringing together screwed creators to publish DEADBEAT COMICS would bring in a lot of readers wanting to support you guys.

kdb

Not to step on your toes, Kurt (I'd call you 'Mr Busiek', but I don't wanna come across as being smarmy), but check back a few pages (quite a few pages); this is exactly what I want to be the first project for the ICC. I've already gotten a couple responses, which was all I was waiting for.

I'll be starting a ComicSpace page for the ICC this week, along with an announcement about this. I'll get some of these creators some of the monies they're owed, come hell or high water.

Or delusions of grandeur.

BTW, I've also been contacted by a few injured creators. Seems he really does have a great number of us tied up in legal quandries. And, yes, they are worried about coming out in the open for fear of getting into a court battle with 'Rick'.

I've done a bit of reading over the past week about NDAs. They're not nearly as all-encompassing as 'Rick' would like us to believe. Please, take a moment and read it over carefully. Same with any contract you may have signed with him. Remember, a contract is not the same as an NDA. I know Kurt, Scott, Gail, Larry and other professionals are all too familiar with these legal formats, as well as their limits.

I've come to the inescapable conclusion the only reason he even used the NDAs was to cover his arse and keep creators' mouths shut when he knew from the beginning he had no intention of paying them. He musta figured that would stop people from spreading the word about him being such a fecking deadbeat.

Likewise, TotS cannot be held up in any of his purported legal wrangling. He owes creators money, and he cannot publish it until he doles out. That explains why he's going forth with plans for a second issue.

I'm a bit hard-pressed to remember exact details about his convention 'success'. The last one that physically took place was in 2003. 2004 was supposed to be grandiose, in Syracuse instead of the Mohawk Valley. Lots of creators were invited, but were told about the cancellation at the last minute (which no doubt caused a lot of hassle for them). Many vendors and small press creators who had reserved and paid for tables ahead of time never got their money back. A Hallowe'en-type convention was planned for the fall of 2004, and that also fell through. I recall a major falling-out between him and another sponsor for that event, but I'm not sure if it was before the cancellation of after.

2005 was promoted to be the show that 2004 was supposed to be. And it was. It got canceled, too. More screwing over, more fall-out. 2006 was gonna be scaled back to a single-day show. Now, I know he did have 3 deaths in the family in rapid succession, but when I think back to the details, I do remember him saying the venue was never reserved. He waited until the last minute to check the openings for halls in Syracuse, and suddenly 'discovered' some major cheer-leading competition that was eating all the available accommodations. Why the hell would he wait so long to even check in on that? Doesn't seem like that'd be the sort of event that would be kept quiet until the week before. Which is how long he waited.

And, yes, as much as it galls me to pump energy into the Olney ego-machine, I've heard too many times privately that creators are apprehensive about any legal ramifications that might arise from going public about this. So if he derives some twisted sense of satisfaction seeing his name in print in any fashion, then so be it.

I was pissed over what he did to Gail, Ronee, Chuck, myself; now I've seen dozens upon dozens chime in with their own horror stories and watch his veiled threats seep thru this thread like some cancerous infection. His delusional sense of self-worth has become quiet public now; so has his easily-triggered temper.

Let him feed off this discussion. He'll never believe for an instant that his own 'defense' is causing himself more harm than good.




Doc 'Little Man' Absurd

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Heh. Call the collection of creators FU Entertainment.


Probably splutter a lot but do nothing.

kdb


The company masthead should be a crotch chop symbolizing they want a certain someone to " Suck It " . Hopefully WWE doesn't try and stop that.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Ya know I'm shocked no one has ever used the FU Enertainment name before. Its pretty catchy and all. I mean its the type of buzz word that many people will get something from it.

" Did you read Tales of the Scary from FU Enertainemnt ? "


Instead of a DX cross chop , lets just have a middle finger over on the left . Hell I even have a slogan: FU Enertainment , Were Not Taking This Shit Anymore !

[Bright-Raven]

Ya know I'm shocked no one has ever used the FU Enertainment name before.

"FU" is under use, I believe. Frontiers Unlimited, a division of Stargrave LLC., of Fitzgerald, GA. Owned by Kevin and Kim Clady, proprietors. They produce RPG Supplementals and other materials. They have the "FU" instead of dots in a yin-yang design as part of the Frontiers Unlimited company emblem.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

"FU" is under use, I believe. Frontiers Unlimited, a division of Stargrave LLC., of Fitzgerald, GA. Owned by Kevin and Kim Clady, proprietors. They produce RPG Supplementals and other materials. They have the "FU" instead of dots in a yin-yang design as part of the Frontiers Unlimited company emblem.

Damn......maybe we can have the middle finger with FU and a lowercase e to not distract from the company's logo. I wonder if our company would suffer from any adverse actions by havinga middle finger on the left as the company bullet or masthead ala Marvel/DC ? :p

[MichaelNetzer]

The reason it's worth getting the whole creative team in on it ahead of time is that while the writers could sell the scripts elsewhere solo, the artists' work is based on the script, the lettering, the coloring, etc. is all something that can't be sold elsewhere independently. But if everyone agrees to sell it elsewhere as a package, you've got a finished work, one you can sell with minor modifications -- delete any "host" character, change a name or two, and there you go

It's an interesting idea. Not clear that it would be easy to sell to another publisher but it's feasible and worth an effort.

Other professionals though, who produced work for him outside of TOTS, including web designers etc.. and Ronee as PR director, unfortunately remain owed monies and out in the cold.

But to raise an entire production company for those victimized by Olney might be asking too much, I suppose.

[Bright-Raven]

I don't know if Diamond would accept such a design, ECW. And it really doesn't serve the purpose anyway. Why flip off potential buyers just to "stick it" to Olney?

More common sense, less silliness, ECW.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I don't know if Diamond would accept such a design, ECW. And it really doesn't serve the purpose anyway. Why flip off potential buyers just to "stick it" to Olney?

More common sense, less silliness, ECW.

I know...I know....but I was thinking of a funny company name and Gail and Ronnie joked Tightlip had the most perverted masthead . I always thought why not up the ante with a masthead were sure that will raise some hell. :p

Its more or less a joke. Besides I think if a bunch of creators like Chuck Dixon went to Image ( Larson posts on CBR...someone could send him a PM ) with the proposel and creators involved , I think he could get it done. Thats me being serious.

[TCJohnson]

How about Collection Comics as a name? After all, comics are collectable and the creators are looking to collect on a debt. Or if you want, C.C. (although maybe get too confused with D.C.?)

Or maybe Pequod Comics....after all, they are damned creators going after a [killer] whale.

Or if you really want to get subtle, S.S.C. for Sunken Ship Comics. After all, what do loose lips do?

[DrewEdwards]

Perk? FCBD? Perk???

Can't really say at this point, because the finer details still need to be worked out. But it'll be a lot of fun for fans of modern horror & monster comics.

[Spike-X]

More common sense, less silliness, ECW.

You're barking up the wrong tree there, B-R.

[Cam63]

I'm pretty sure he's typing with his forehead, to be fair.

Gail

Must be one a them thar Klingon forehayds.

[Cam63]

" Captain Olie ", this nice man would like to spend some quality time with you and discuss a little thing called honour you should've learned while in his beloved Corps.

http://bigsblog.blogspot.com/images/ermey.jpg

...Oh and don't make him mad.

[MacQuarrie]

{snip}
"Gail" has actually done me a service by posting those fake emails she obviously trumped up. The action with involve whomever has implicated themself.

{snip}

As far as your remarks about me personally... if that was your best shot, fine. Again, I hope you have not allowed your mouth to write a check your ass can't cover. Opinion is one thing, written defamatory comment is another.

{snip}

"Gail" -- throw up some more of those phoney emails and list any of those other numerous names of people that you early on claimed were contacting you left and right.

{snip}
uh... Take your own advice, Dick. We all know those e-mails are real. We all know every word you type is a lie including 'is", "and" and "the". We know Gail, and we know her character. We know her reputation in the industry, and we know yours. There is no way you're going to convince anyone, certainly not a judge, that she's lying and you're not.

Put down the shovel.

[OzBat!]

Actually, no -- the point of it is not to force him to do anything, but to serve notice that you're going to proceed on your own when he doesn't do anything, and when you publish elsewhere, he can't claim surprise, nor can he claim that he wasn't allowed to make good on the contract breach.

So the idea is to serve legal notice that you consider the contract breached and terminated. It's the fact of him not making a move that then leaves you clear to proceed.Sorry, I knew I left that thought half completed! I agree 100% here. Where I was going, but didn't: The notification period serves two purposes. Either he pays/sues, or he loses any rights to the work after null and voiding his own worthless contracts. Either way, the creators aren't left in limbo any more. But yeah, he's not going to do anything, can't claim he wasn't given the opportunity to make good, and hopefully the work already done can see the light of day and make some money for those already out of pocket.

[OzBat!]

salutations to the browsing Rich Johnston! More, much more, grist for the mill!

[MacQuarrie]

I had comics in my classroom back when I was 10 in 1981. Even wrote a test about them.


Oops, gave away my age. :p

I did a book report on Astonishing Tales #25, the first appearance of Deathlok, for an english class in 1976. Got an A on it. I also wrote about the Marvel version of Thor for a Myths & Legends class the same year.

[MacQuarrie]

No there wasn't, long as you're talking about teachers and school districts allowing talks and lesson plans on comic books in the classrooms.
Dude, I worked on packaging for a reissue of Classics Illustrated specifically tailored for classroom use, published by Gateway (former publisher of Hooked on Phonics) in 1993.

[MacQuarrie]

I'm afraid that many of you wouldn't be able to associate a lesson plan with an actual classroom environment and how sequential art actually stimulates problem readers to help them overcome their reading and comprehension difficulties.
You mean of the sort that was described in Stan's Soapbox and various lettercolumns going back to at least 1972, in which various teachers describe their success using comics with remedial readers? That kind of classroom environment?

[Cam63]

uh... Take your own advice, Dick. We all know those e-mails are real. We all know every word you type is a lie including 'is", "and" and "the". We know Gail, and we know her character. We know her reputation in the industry, and we know yours. There is no way you're going to convince anyone, certainly not a judge, that she's lying and you're not.

Put down the shovel.

...and stop hitting yourself in the head with it.

Yes, I know it makes a nice " DON-N-N-N-G " sound, but it's really not a healthy practice.

[Gail Simone]

Wow! I found this thread via a link a friend of mine posted on another forum. All I can is that it's a really small world.

I've actually had personal run ins with this guy. He wanted my wife and I to appear at a con of his a few years back. To make a long story short, the whole thing blew up in his face. It was a bad experience, but it could have been worse.

I am also friendly with Ronee. I was worried about Ronee when she got involved with him. But I didn't think to it to big a deal at the time.

From my personal experience he seemed well meaning enough, but fool hardy and a big talker w/o the means to back it up. I had no idea so many other people had been burnt by him as well. I guess I was giving him to much credit. Interesting and sad.


I really dig Halloweenman. It feels like a breakout hit waiting to happen.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Another suggestion:

Get the various contributors to these books together and sell the stories to someone else. If a writer, penciler, inker, letterer and colorist all worked on something and none of you got paid, shop it around. Change any details that came from Tightlip and get paid by someone else.

He has no grounds to sue. The contract is void. For those of you who have contracts, satisfy the "Notices" section (if there even is one) by sending a registered letter saying that he's got 30 days to pay or you're selling the story elsewhere. When he doesn't pay, sell it elsewhere.

There's no need to feel held hostage -- what he doesn't pay for, he doesn't own any rights to. Basic contract law. Heck, the publicity involved in bringing together screwed creators to publish DEADBEAT COMICS would bring in a lot of readers wanting to support you guys.

kdb



As if I didn't worship at the Busiek altar enough ALREADY.


I do think it's kind of funny how his arguments have gone from weird, elaborate paranoid fantasies (as if all these people give a shit about a deadbeat hack liar outside of being paid as promised), to "I know you are but what am I?"

It's like seeing someone very dumb get dumber before your eyes.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

A lot of 'em have piped up -- I bet the others can be found.

And it's a way to get the work in print and get paid something. What creator wouldn't want that?

kdb

I do have quite a few more. I suspect we'll be hearing from them soon. And they have some very interesting stuff to say.


Gail

[DangerDiabolik]

If all the work that was done IS collected and put out in some form, it might be funny to include this huge ginormus thread lol...its entirely far too entertaining a read.

[RichJohnston]

Tim felt betrayed when his name was brought up by Rich Johnston, and I merely told Johnston (in private email) to check with Tim about his side of things.

I sent an earlier version of the column to Rick for comment, which he gave. I then re-sent the piece with his comments so he could see how the piece would look. Rick read the piece then replied without objecting to the added comments.

[EdContradictory]

Tightlip made YMB's Top Three Bits of Comic Gossip for 2006. (http://www.yourmomsbasement.com/archives/2006/12/2006_top_threes.html)

[DrewEdwards]

I really dig Halloweenman. It feels like a breakout hit waiting to happen.

Gail


Wow! Thank you. :) I've had a lot of help over the years. Some of it from someone you might be familar with. ;)

[Magneto_X]

Other professionals though, who produced work for him outside of TOTS, including web designers etc.. and Ronee as PR director, unfortunately remain owed monies and out in the cold.


Not necessarily. Once enough money has been raised to pay the comics artistic "staff" then all the profits after that could go to the non-comic based workers.

[DocAbsurd]

I sent an earlier version of the column to Rick for comment, which he gave. I then re-sent the piece with his comments so he could see how the piece would look. Rick read the piece then replied without objecting to the added comments.

Thank you, Rich, thank you.

Well, 'Rick', there it is. You've officially been trumped. You had the article well beforehand, not once but twice. You didn't see a damn thing wrong with using my name in your senseless crusade.

Now it's your turn. Why not post the email you sent me with the apology and explanation? Why not scan in the phone bill with your call to me before the article saw print?

Oh, I know: you don't have to show proof. Your attorney told you not to. That evidence is tied up in NDAs. Or is it because you just don't wanna burst the bubble in your tiny little delusional world.




Doc 'You Don't Call Me Anymore' Absurd

[Matt Doc Martin]

" Captain Olie ", this nice man would like to spend some quality time with you and discuss a little thing called honour you should've learned while in his beloved Corps.

http://bigsblog.blogspot.com/images/ermey.jpg

...Oh and don't make him mad.

Yeah, I mentioned something about this to "Dick".

IF he is an ex-marine, he forgot EVERYTHING he learned about being a marine.

The "man" has no sense of honor, decency, or logic. Along with no sense of business acumen, how to properly use a checkbook, or use a shower.

[AIPman1]

on rick's myspace:

Rick from TightLip Entertainment 's Companies
MetLife
Oriskany, New York US
Supervisor
National Accounts Checkwriting

---------------------------

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......ok....

[Sarah Beach]

on rick's myspace:

Rick from TightLip Entertainment 's Companies
MetLife
Oriskany, New York US
Supervisor
National Accounts Checkwriting

---------------------------

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......ok....

Yes, I found that interesting too. It made me wonder what was with the "check cycle" he kept palming off on folks like Chuck. How big a company is he "running" anyway, when he can't just pay the talent when payment is due? "Oh, missed the deadline. I'll have to pay you in the next cycle." Cripes, that doesn't even work at our studio (a major one in Hollywood), when payment is overdue. On top of that, our "payment schedule" is weekly. So if billing missed a deadline, it should be processed the next week. (Well, except when it comes to processing the paperwork for any annual pay increases - heh. But at least we get it retroactive to the date it should have begun.)

[Bright-Raven]

ECW:

As entertaining a notion as Erik Larsen being willing to publish such a collection might be, the structure for how Image works would sort of defeat the purpose, as there would likely be too many creators to split the profits between after publication for Image to consider the investment worth the shot. And given the circumstances, I think Erik would (justly) see the whole point as getting the various parties paid something for their efforts, as much as seeing the works in print.

Also the higher the profile company publishing this, the more attention drawn to Olney, which I suspect is all he's after.

Of course, Erik's been known to charge a few windmills in his day. And I wouldn't put it past him to contribute a short original Savage Dragon story to the project to bring higher attentions to it if it managed to be published elsewhere.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Tightlip made YMB's Top Three Bits of Comic Gossip for 2006. (http://www.yourmomsbasement.com/archives/2006/12/2006_top_threes.html)

The only sad thing is that TightLip has, really, fuck-all to do with comic books. Don't you actually have to publish something?

[websbestcomics]

ECW:

As entertaining a notion as Erik Larsen being willing to publish such a collection might be, the structure for how Image works would sort of defeat the purpose, as there would likely be too many creators to split the profits between after publication for Image to consider the investment worth the shot. And given the circumstances, I think Erik would (justly) see the whole point as getting the various parties paid something for their efforts, as much as seeing the works in print.

Also the higher the profile company publishing this, the more attention drawn to Olney, which I suspect is all he's after.

Of course, Erik's been known to charge a few windmills in his day. And I wouldn't put it past him to contribute a short original Savage Dragon story to the project to bring higher attentions to it if it managed to be published elsewhere.

This, like the other suggestions of finding a publisher for the material, would give Olney EXACTLY what he wants, more notoriety, a celebrity status and all accomplished without his having to spend 1 dime. Personally, I wouldn't want to have any part in this. I have serious doubts about a 'benefit comic' because it would have Olney's shadow lurking all over it, and I can only imagine how he would exploit that. Not to mention he would likely continue to threaten those involved and be a general nuisance even after the book is published and long forgotten. And, besides, I doubt that enough profits could be generated from a benefit book to pay even a portion of what he owes creators and others claiming to have been ripped off.

I think the clear, simple answer is to get this outside the comic industry bubble and take him to court. Those who are owed less than 5k can file a small claims lawsuit against him for under $300.00 in most states. You won't even need a lawyer for that.

[DungeonmasterJim]

I've been lurking in this thread pretty much since the beginning.

I'm getting the feeling that this thread/situation is taking on a life of it's own and may eventually become one of those deals where people say 'where were you on the day..."

:D


I was there!


DM Jim

[websbestcomics]

I've been lurking in this thread pretty much since the beginning.

I'm getting the feeling that this thread/situation is taking on a life of it's own and may eventually become one of those deals where people say 'where were you on the day..."

:D


I was there!


DM Jim



I wish I HADN'T been there. It's cost me a lot of money and his online antics are a continual distraction and nuisance. I had to hire an attorney in an effort to deal with his non-payment and harrassing emails (he's sent 5 emails to me since I asked that he refer all correspondence to my attorney). So this should give everyone a tiny glimpse into what is going on and what some of us are going through. That's why I'm so against being involved in any sort of benefit book or anything that in any way is connected with this individual. I know that if that happened, it will only make matters worse.

[DocAbsurd]

The benefit book will have no mention of 'Rick', with only a basic explanation of why we're doing the comic in the first place. This won't be a 'stroke the Olney ego' project, unless he derives some perverse pleasure from knowing someone he screwed is attempting to fix his mess. I'm hoping to mix new material with anything anyone might like to contribute, and I'd like to have both injured creators along with those who're just trying to help.

I'd like to find a printer who'd be willing to donate their services and someone to handle the distribution. I'll also need some sort of list of everyone who's owed monies for their services; and I guarantee your name will be kept private.

I'm not crazy enough to believe everyone who's been stiffed will be paid in full; from what I can tell, there's far too many people on the list to make that possible. But we'll do what we can.

I wanna start the new year right.




Doc 'Gutter Relief' Absurd

[Kurt Busiek]

It's an interesting idea. Not clear that it would be easy to sell to another publisher but it's feasible and worth an effort.

Other professionals though, who produced work for him outside of TOTS, including web designers etc.. and Ronee as PR director, unfortunately remain owed monies and out in the cold.

Sure. Their best option is probably small-claims court.

The point of the idea isn't to set all things right at a stroke, but to assert control and ownership of work owned by the creators, get it into print and make some money. It's to simply go around him, rather than waste effort trying to get him to repair a breach he's obviously not going to.

Not everyone is in a position to do that -- but a lot of people apparently are.

kdb

[Kurt Busiek]

Not necessarily. Once enough money has been raised to pay the comics artistic "staff" then all the profits after that could go to the non-comic based workers.

Could be, but there are two problems with that:

First, it's unlikely the book is going to sell well enough to recoup a full page rate for everyone involved; that's just the nature of the business these days.

Second, by doing that, you're asking the people with work in the book to make good on someone else's debts. Which they might be willing to do, but they might very reasonably not be.

My point is not to heal all wounds -- to act as Rick's parents and make good his debts for him. He should do that himself, and be forced to do that by the courts in cases where that's the only option.

However, there are certain things being contested here, creative works in the form of comics works and columns -- that can simply be taken back and sold elsewhere. I wasn't suggesting it as a political statement (there's some promotional value to be gotten from the story, but it's not the heart of the concept), but as merely normal business.

If I wrote a short piece of fiction for an anthology that didn't pay me, I don't have to eat the loss -- I can turn around and sell it somewhere else. With comics, it's more complicated because there's not a single author involved, but it's the same principle. It's horror stories, right? Horror's doing okay these days in comics. Take it back, do something else with it. It's that simple. It's not a fundraiser, not a benefit comic, it's just a commercial product -- our normal stock in trade, for creative types.

Heck, it's not even necessary that there be any animus involved, though in this case there is. When I worked on MARVELS II back in 1994, I realized early on that it wasn't working right, so I didn't voucher anything. And when the project fell apart, I still owned the story, and I'm writing it now as ASTRO CITY: THE DARK AGE, with suitable and substantial alterations, of course. I'm not mad at Marvel, they're not mad at me (heck, I'm doing a completely different MARVELS sequel as well). But I didn't sell the story, so I still own it, so I did something else with it.

That's the concept. The more you pile onto it, the harder it gets to do.

kdb

[Kurt Busiek]

As entertaining a notion as Erik Larsen being willing to publish such a collection might be, the structure for how Image works would sort of defeat the purpose, as there would likely be too many creators to split the profits between after publication for Image to consider the investment worth the shot.

All due respect, but it makes no difference at all to Image's business structure how many creators there are on a project -- they were perfectly happy to publish FLIGHT, after all, and numerous other anthologies.

Whoever were to do it -- ICC, Image, IDW, Slave Labor, whomever -- the creators' share of any profits can be split among any number of people; doesn't make any difference to the publisher.

And given the circumstances, I think Erik would (justly) see the whole point as getting the various parties paid something for their efforts, as much as seeing the works in print.

I dunno. I suspect an interested publisher would care more about publishing a horror-themed comic headlined by Chuck Dixon than about treating it as a benefit comic. It's not charity, and shouldn't be sold as a charity project, but as comics people who like that sort of thing would want to read.

kdb

[Gail Simone]

Tightlip made YMB's Top Three Bits of Comic Gossip for 2006. (http://www.yourmomsbasement.com/archives/2006/12/2006_top_threes.html)

Well, Rick gets his wish. He gets attention.

Unfortunately, it's for being a lying deadbeat, but there you go.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

This, like the other suggestions of finding a publisher for the material, would give Olney EXACTLY what he wants, more notoriety, a celebrity status and all accomplished without his having to spend 1 dime. Personally, I wouldn't want to have any part in this. I have serious doubts about a 'benefit comic' because it would have Olney's shadow lurking all over it, and I can only imagine how he would exploit that. Not to mention he would likely continue to threaten those involved and be a general nuisance even after the book is published and long forgotten. And, besides, I doubt that enough profits could be generated from a benefit book to pay even a portion of what he owes creators and others claiming to have been ripped off.

I think the clear, simple answer is to get this outside the comic industry bubble and take him to court. Those who are owed less than 5k can file a small claims lawsuit against him for under $300.00 in most states. You won't even need a lawyer for that.


I was recently told that he has a small claims case against him right now, but I don't yet know who filed it. And again, in this case, the information is second hand.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

All due respect, but it makes no difference at all to Image's business structure how many creators there are on a project -- they were perfectly happy to publish FLIGHT, after all, and numerous other anthologies.

Whoever were to do it -- ICC, Image, IDW, Slave Labor, whomever -- the creators' share of any profits can be split among any number of people; doesn't make any difference to the publisher.



I dunno. I suspect an interested publisher would care more about publishing a horror-themed comic headlined by Chuck Dixon than about treating it as a benefit comic. It's not charity, and shouldn't be sold as a charity project, but as comics people who like that sort of thing would want to read.

kdb



You've obviously forged yourself.

Gail

[Magneto_X]

Well, Rick gets his wish. He gets attention.

Unfortunately, it's for being a lying deadbeat, but there you go.

Gail

At least people will know not to work with him now.

Some good has come out of it. Unfortunately, not finiancially for every creator that he hurt. :(

[Bright-Raven]

Websbestcomics:

I think the clear, simple answer is to get this outside the comic industry bubble and take him to court. Those who are owed less than 5k can file a small claims lawsuit against him for under $300.00 in most states. You won't even need a lawyer for that.

Not everyone involved can afford the $300.00, not to mention some parties are owed less than that sum. It'd be rather stupid to file a claim to receive less money than it costs to file the claim in the first place, and even a goofball like Rick knows that, so he has no worries there.

If you're going to talk civil court, everyone needs to file a class action suit against him. But I think we all know by now he has no money to pay, so even winning such a lawsuit would be meaningless (ask Val Staples or Jim MacQuarrie what it's like to have meaningless court victories like this where you have been awarded the money by the court and still cannot collect).

This entire matter should be filed with certain law enforcement agencies in Herkimer County in New York. I'm not sure exactly whose jurisdiction it is yet, as this is an interstate matter (I *think* it's FBI for this), but Olney needs to have a formal criminal investigation conducted in regards to his activities. The way I see it, he's committed mail fraud, internet fraud, possibly used an NPO in a fraudulent manner, breached who knows how many contracts, attempted to blackmail Ronee into signing an agreement in lieu of payment he has no intentions of offering, has commited libel and other forms of public defamation against a multiple number of parties, and has threatened physical violence against one or more parties here in this thread and elsewhere on the net.

Most if not all of these charges seem to be fairly easily substantiated on the surface, and I think if the proper paperwork and evidence were presented, lawful action might get taken against Olney by the proper authorities.

The aggrieved could also file liens against that aforementioned funeral home property he recently purchased (he could purchase a property but couldn't pay creators and employees their moneys?) and any other assets they could track down for non-payment for services rendered, too. That can cause all sorts of hell with his credit rating, mortgages and other finances.

So there are many courses of ACTION that can be taken - but the aggrieved are the ones who have to take such action.

[Kurt Busiek]

Not everyone involved can afford the $300.00, not to mention some parties are owed less than that sum.

He didn't say it cost $300. He said "less than $300." So before anyone jumps to the conclusion that pursuing their legal options will cost more than the debt, they should at least check into it and find out.

kdb

[Gail Simone]

At least people will know not to work with him now.

Some good has come out of it. Unfortunately, not finiancially for every creator that he hurt. :(

Pros certainly won't, I imagine, but I wouldn't be surprised if he couldn't still cheat some people trying to break in.

Gail

[Bright-Raven]

Kurt:

He didn't say it cost $300. He said "less than $300."

I stand corrected. Obviously if the sum of moneys one is trying to claim exceeds the cost of filing, one should consider the option.

But having just gone through two major legal battles with parties who wronged me and my family over the past 18 months, I can tell you that the financial, emotional, and time consumption tolls of court really aren't worth it for the level of some of the claims people are talking about. Is it really worth it for Diabolik (for example) to go after this jerk in civil court individually for $90? Probably not.

[Kurt Busiek]

Is it really worth it for Diabolik (for example) to go after this jerk in civil court individually for $90? Probably not.

Nobody said that everyone should pursue that option either, merely that they look into it and find out. Not all legal battles are emotional and draining, either -- the one time I had to sue anyone, it was virtually painless (for my family, at least; the guy who made major mistakes building our house should have settled right away). It's worth getting the facts and making a decision.

In Diabolik's case, I'd expect he'd be better off as part of a group of creators formally voiding the breached contract and taking the finished work elsewhere, but that would be up to him (and the other creators on that story).

kdb

[OMAR]

It's amazing to me. That someone with so few resources, poor writing skills, what sounds like a full-time day job, reputedly poor interpersonal communication skills, and (now that I'm looking at his myspace entries and seeing his claims that Gail would manufacture emails in an attempt to smear him) - well, frankly he seems obviously crazy... that he could command the attention and time of so many people, that he could even have the opportunity to get into a position where he owes them money.

What does he bring to the table, is he extremely handsome or something? I can't figure out why so many people went into business with him in the first place.

Rick, I'm sorry to be so blunt but even though I've attended and enjoyed your conventions in the past it's obvious to me that you have a serious problem. No one is going to believe that Gail Simone and Chuck Dixon are dumping on you for no reason. I haven't heard of most of these folks, and there's one certified kook and one person who has a reputation for smearing innocent people in the pack that is after you, but Simone and Dixon have impeccable, long-standing reputations among the comics crowd so I'd say it's over for MMC and Tightlip now, probably forever. You should probably just pack it in. You can still read and enjoy comics - you don't even have to drive into Utica, now, there's a new shop on Main St. in Herkimer - but you're beating a dead horse by even posting any more responses. I assume you've convinced yourself you don't actually owe these people their money, so I won't suggest you pay them, but at least kill the myspace page, stop posting anywhere, and sit back to wait to see if they end up suing you.

[Buckminster Futter]

Speaking (typing?) as a freelance graphic artist, over the years I've had to take several deadbeats to small claims court to recoup payment for services rendered. Here in Indiana, it cost me $30 to file each of the lawsuits, and reimbursement of those "court costs" were included in the judgments won.

I'm just sayin'. ;)

[Buckminster Futter]

What does he bring to the table, is he extremely handsome or something?

http://www.orcafresh.net/Comicons/pcc00/ImagesPCC/jeffsmith147.jpg

One of these fellows is Bone's Jeff Smith. The other is Mr. Stinky. Which one could be typified as "handsome" is decidedly subjective, of course.

Heh heh.

[Gail Simone]

It's amazing to me. That someone with so few resources, poor writing skills, what sounds like a full-time day job, reputedly poor interpersonal communication skills, and (now that I'm looking at his myspace entries and seeing his claims that Gail would manufacture emails in an attempt to smear him) - well, frankly he seems obviously crazy... that he could command the attention and time of so many people, that he could even have the opportunity to get into a position where he owes them money.

What does he bring to the table, is he extremely handsome or something? I can't figure out why so many people went into business with him in the first place.

Rick, I'm sorry to be so blunt but even though I've attended and enjoyed your conventions in the past it's obvious to me that you have a serious problem. No one is going to believe that Gail Simone and Chuck Dixon are dumping on you for no reason. I haven't heard of most of these folks, and there's one certified kook and one person who has a reputation for smearing innocent people in the pack that is after you, but Simone and Dixon have impeccable, long-standing reputations among the comics crowd so I'd say it's over for MMC and Tightlip now, probably forever. You should probably just pack it in. You can still read and enjoy comics - you don't even have to drive into Utica, now, there's a new shop on Main St. in Herkimer - but you're beating a dead horse by even posting any more responses. I assume you've convinced yourself you don't actually owe these people their money, so I won't suggest you pay them, but at least kill the myspace page, stop posting anywhere, and sit back to wait to see if they end up suing you.


Well said, Omar. All anyone cares about is getting these people paid. Sparring with Mr. O does not interest me in the slightest.

Were you there for his comicon meltdowns, I wonder?

Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Sometimes its not how handsome you are , its how good a motivator and talker to people. How you can float lines of bullshit and manage to keep them happy and working for you as things go down. People can notice a line in my signature from Paul Heyman. Heyman himself pretty much set the rulebook on bosses who could make people cross a flaming river of fire with how he'd motivate them !

( watch past the opening as Heyman gives his speech to everyone)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBO9mkXVjzs

Now Paul Heyman , his workers pretty much went weeks without pay. Pushing to keep the company afloat and Heyman doing rallying speeches to keep them around. At last call Heyman owed his people thousands of dollars and ECW went into Bankruptcy. Heyman was a great motivator and as people tease " He's a Jim Jones , don't go drinking his coolaid ."

[OMAR]

I don't know anything about his Comicon postings. Either he was banned before I started posting there or we just never had any interactions that I can remember. From what people have said, it sounds like it wasn't comic book threads that he was getting crazy in but political threads. I'm not interested in discussing politics with comic book people.

The only online interaction that I remember having with Rick Olney was very cordial. In an unrelated Newsarama thread (before I was gagged on Newsarama for asking some pointed questions about the possible infringement of the LBC "Bombshell" character by another company) I noticed Rick's MMC .sig and I complained to him about the problem I had with the way certain inappropriate materials were displayed right at the entrance of his latest con (no pun intended) - he acknowledged the problem and I got the impression he would try to avoid that in the future.

Those old Comicon threads, which I have read in the past week and date back from years ago, his myspace entries, the emails I've seen represented here, all make it seem as though he's been obviously wacky all along.

I've spent too long now trying to find a less offensive way to phrase this paragraph:

I can honestly say it's been a long time since I envied anyone involved in making or producing comic books. Maybe it's just my personality, but to have to go back and forth over money (in private, let alone in public) with someone that is obviously nutty would be like a living hell for me. I'll argue over all kinds of stuff, obviously, but getting paid for work I've done? God, that's depressing.

[TCJohnson]

That's the concept. The more you pile onto it, the harder it gets to do.

kdb

Maybe I am wrong in thinking this...but let's use websbestcomics case as an example.

He says that Olney owes him $2,000 for his work. If he took his work back and then published it himself, he would now be the owner of the work instead of Olney, since Olney never paid for it. Correct? But then he would probably not make the full $2,000 back in profit. So it seems like it would be more profitable for websbestcomics to just sue...am I right?

[Gail Simone]

"I can honestly say it's been a long time since I envied anyone involved in making or producing comic books. Maybe it's just my personality, but to have to go back and forth over money (in private, let alone in public) with someone that is obviously nutty would be like a living hell for me. I'll argue over all kinds of stuff, obviously, but getting paid for work I've done? God, that's depressing."

Yeah, true, but again, scammers like Rick Olney are the exception. I've worked for a ton of companies and have always been treated great and paid promptly, with the exception of Olney.

Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

My thinking is perhaps the rush to believe that you can step into the comics industry and shake your fists at DC/Marvel/Image and get huge. That Olney believed that it wouldn't take much to step in and challenge the " Big 3 " as they are right now.

He got in over his head. And instead of going to a Chuck Dixon , Staples and others he used to produce that 1 comic to explain how he had pretty much extended himself , he tried to push it off. That his pride wouldn't allow him to admit that he was suffering a major setback right now. That he's trying to find a backer perhaps who has money to get " Tales of the Spooky " out.

I'm sure as some posted , had he explained his problems and all ..perhaps many would have went along with him. Instead of the chest thumping and proclamations of dominant force he'll show them.

[Kurt Busiek]

Maybe I am wrong in thinking this...but let's use websbestcomics case as an example.

He says that Olney owes him $2,000 for his work. If he took his work back and then published it himself, he would now be the owner of the work instead of Olney, since Olney never paid for it. Correct? But then he would probably not make the full $2,000 back in profit. So it seems like it would be more profitable for websbestcomics to just sue...am I right?

Maybe.

Depends what the suit cost and how successful it was. But it's certainly worth looking into and finding out, rather than deciding what course is best based on guesswork.

kdb

[saintsaucey]

I have no clue what this topic is about but kurt i do think your time is best spent writing superman and not commenting on radome subjects. i do need my superman fix and your stories are keeping me interested atm so keep up the good work. :D jk comment on what ever you want. your new issue comes out thursday

[Dedagda]

Y'all are still here?!?

If he was unable to come up with the final $100 for Gail then I can guarantee there's no attorney. Threats or no.

He's obviously king-kong-krazy. I think this thread has done plenty of damage. That said, there are many eager uninformed comikers out there.

I would like to see a nice chart with the professional's name, their work performed, money owed and a simple email or scanned letter as evidence. I'm certain some attorney would find merit in portions of the document at least enough to warrant action without upfront fees.

I'm betting there's nothing to go after.

I'd like to see some form of cathartic work like the comic or closure for y'all. Maybe its this thread?

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[Cam63]

Tightlip made YMB's Top Three Bits of Comic Gossip for 2006. (http://www.yourmomsbasement.com/archives/2006/12/2006_top_threes.html)

I wonder if he'll " threaten " them for posting that.

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[Dedagda]

Wow... do you have a lot to learn! That stuff that "Gail" is spoutin' is mostly all lies. But believe what you want. I gurantee you that 2007 will be a year that people connected to this thread will remember. Again, this is simply a bunch oohalf grown adults working out their issues regarding Wertham's SUPERMAN Complex.

I don't care about promises just apologize to these people...three little words "I am sorry."

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[Crowley]

Be my guest, the more culpable, the merrier the civil action! :rolleyes:

No one here is threatened by you.
Quite the contrary.

And Pia has said what I have said as well... your reputation is irreparably damaged.

[TCJohnson]

I don't care about promises just apologize to these people...three little words "I am sorry."

Well, actually....I think most of these people would prefer the money that "Rick" owes them. If it wasn't for the money then "Rick" would just be something to put on ignore.

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[FantomasPR]

Winner of the "Not Paying" award in the Rumours Awards from LITG

So the winner, through a process of elimination, was Rick Olney of TightLip Entertainment, for his double whammy of not paying creators when he promised, blowing further payment deadlines and then threatening anyone who publicly complained with a lawsuit for breach of contract. "It's like a masterclass in irony," murmured Paul O'Brien. "If nothing else" said Dirk, "he made the industry feel sorry for Ronee Borgeouis. Quite a feat."

The debate, including emails sent to Gail Simone from Rick Olney, continues at Gail's CBR board.

[Cam63]

No problem. Just make positive use of all this negative energy before it eats you alive. ;)

You're providing the negative energy by not paying people what you owe.

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[Matt Doc Martin]

No, sorry to dishearten you further, Lance Boucher. I have no issues with bi-polar disease.

Just reality, jackass.

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[Cam63]

Wow... do you have a lot to learn! That stuff that "Gail" is spoutin' is mostly all lies. But believe what you want. I gurantee you that 2007 will be a year that people connected to this thread will remember. Again, this is simply a bunch oohalf grown adults working out their issues regarding Wertham's SUPERMAN Complex.

Gail doesn't lie.

She may fib while teasing or having a joke, but I'd lay my life down that she doesn't lie about people like you.

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[Matt Doc Martin]

True story. But believe as you prefer. It doesn't matter to me what you think.

Do you have proof from George Lucas?

I thought not.

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[Cam63]

What about the secret tunnel you have leading to the Playboy mansion ?

Is that true too ?

[Matt Doc Martin]

No, actually Tales of The Spooky #1 is being held up since last fall by legal ongoings. It was due to be published late summer to early fall of 2006.

I always get a chuckle out of how people that know little or nothing about a subject topic always seem to have the best imaginations when it comes to stretching the truth.

So what "legal ongoings", if it isn't non-payment (your preferred modus operandi?)?

[Matt Doc Martin]

What about the secret tunnel you have leading to the Playboy mansion ?

Is that true too ?

He strikes me as more of a peeper.

[OzBat!]

Yeah, I demand to see a (non-forged) email from Skywalker Ranch confirming their honorific actions.

[Cam63]

I have a beer named after me.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Doc Marten boots? Totally named after me. They just changed the "i" to an "e".

[TCJohnson]

I have a beer named after me.

There is also the stain in the parking lot that looks like Daffy Duck? Isn't that also usually attributed after you?

Anyway, moving along....

[TCJohnson]

I always get a chuckle out of how people that know little or nothing about a subject topic always seem to have the best imaginations when it comes to stretching the truth.

Heh...irony.

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[Matt Doc Martin]

Heh...irony.

He did it AGAIN!

[DocAbsurd]

No, actually Tales of The Spooky #1 is being held up since last fall by legal ongoings. It was due to be published late summer to early fall of 2006.

I always get a chuckle out of how people that know little or nothing about a subject topic always seem to have the best imaginations when it comes to stretching the truth.

Stretching the truth by what you told me, Twit. First 2004, in conjunction with the canceled Spooky show then. Followed by publication in 2005, in conjunction with yet another canceled Spooky show. 2006 was only the latest in retro-active release dates you've conjured up. Anyone here who worked on the first TotS?

Cancel, cancel, cancel.

Mebbe you oughta start dealing exclusively with people who have as short a memory as you claim to have.

Still waiting for you to put the 'lie' to what Rich Johnston posted earlier. Or for some emails you sent me. You're so big on proof, why not provide a bit?



Doc 'Up to Here' Absurd

[Cam63]

There is also the stain in the parking lot that looks like Daffy Duck? Isn't that also usually attributed after you?

Anyway, moving along....

I prefer to use the toilet, but when ya gotta go, ya gotta go.

[TCJohnson]

He did it AGAIN!

Well, Momma Absurd does seem to be young at heart.....and she is completely around the bend loony. Not dangerous, lock her up for the sake of herself and society loony like Rick Onley is. She is more "let's give her some alcohol and legos and see what happens" loony.

[Momma Absurd]

Yeah, and as his naughty nurse -- You should know what the 'zachlies' looks like.

Please Rick keep posting your replies here to me and to everyone else please do, I have quite the collection now and you can better believe that you will hear from my and Tim's attorney sometime this week. I am getting rather sick of your attitude and your mouth and demented delusional simpering threats. You have the balls to tell Doc_A to stop bemoaning his illness. I told him to stop bemoaning the fact that he even knew your name!!! Did you ever read or ever have a clue that these people that you have told their "payment was in the mail" had bills to pay and your lying ass put them in a hard place because of it. I pity any wife and children you may have, poor people probably have no idea what a scum sucking bastard you are.

And as far as bemoaning any illness goes ( I have seen plenty about your non-existant heart btw) you asshole when you see my and Tim's face in court I will personally stand up and request that the judge order a mental evaluation performed for you at no cost to you...seeing as how that bill probably won't be paid anyway...

Tell Matlock that he has my regards and deepest sympathy for representing such an anal "dicktard" such as yourself.

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[Cam63]

When Mum takes off the gloves, she takes off the gloves.

Go get 'im, Mumma.

[Cam63]

I am continually amazed at how often those commiecon trolls like this big headed bloated oaf is drawn to the smell of shite.

Well, you keep posting here.

*Lights match*

[TCJohnson]

Commiecon? People still use commie as an insult? Really?

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[Matt Doc Martin]

I am continually amazed at how often those commiecon trolls like this big headed bloated oaf is drawn to the smell of shite.

I love this: "I, among many others, crossed swords with the idiot many times for quite a while over there, and he was an endless source of amusement and ridicule. Unfortunately, what he's up to now ain't so funny anymore."

You're a troll. Don't act like it was me that you were talking to back then. Because it wasn't. You trolls on the commie boards were put in your place legally. 'Course, maybe nobody told you. And -- What kind of "idiot" does it take to keep conversing, assumingly in civil discourse, over on commiecon with another thought to be "idiot"...

You just can't take a hint, can you "Dick"?

You are a talentless asshole with no honor, shame, or decency.

There is NO ONE who has stepped up in your defense. There is NO evidence to support your claims one iota.

"Commie con" makes you sound like a bad Archonis impersonation. He should sue.

[Momma Absurd]

You are strange, Daph! How old did you profess to be? :D

Oh here we go with Daph again, I told you before asshole that you dont have the privilege to call me that.......and as far as being strange goes I guess it is strange for a loser like you to see someone as WONDERFUL as me to come into a room with people I don't know and stand up for them. Your outta your league with me anal bait now go play with your doodle pad and the nice etch-a-sketch that the nice doctor gave you. :rolleyes:

[DocAbsurd]

Yeah, really! Get on with doing good thing. Hell, if you think you have a case come on ahead! Just don't cry and bemoan your every waking moment. It gets old fast. Now that we're no longer friends -- I can tell you that. :rolleyes:

How's about I tell you something, 'friend'?

'Wah, someone died. Gotta cancel a show.'

'Wah, someone else died. Gotta cancel another show.'

'Wah, someone else died. Gotta cancel a show I never planned to hold.'

Blaming your lost homework on a death in the family was old in grade school.

At least I apologize. And I'm sincere when I say it. You've fecked over Lord knows how many people and you have yet to utter those words.

Just more of the barbs you claim to despise others using on you. Kick any wheelchairs on your way over here?




Doc 'He's Handicapped; He's Psychotic' Absurd

[Crowley]

Rick,

one simple question...
where are you allies?
where are your friends?

You have NO ONE here defending you...
backing up your claims. You've also
yet to provide any evidence to
back up any of your claims.

[Matt Doc Martin]

How's about I tell you something, 'friend'?

'Wah, someone died. Gotta cancel a show.'

'Wah, someone else died. Gotta cancel another show.'

'Wah, someone else died. Gotta cancel a show I never planned to hold.'

Blaming your lost homework on a death in the family was old in grade school.


Doc 'He's Handicapped; He's Psychotic' Absurd

Now, now...be nice to "Dick". He probably had Starr sing at the funerals. Like nails on a chalkboard. *shudder*

[TCJohnson]

Rick,

one simple question...
where are you allies?
where are your friends?

You have NO ONE here defending you...
backing up your claims. You've also
yet to provide any evidence to
back up any of your claims.

They will be here as soon as Rick's check to them clears.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Rick,

one simple question...
where are you allies?
where are your friends?

You have NO ONE here defending you...
backing up your claims. You've also
yet to provide any evidence to
back up any of your claims.

His lawyer has the evidence...sorry.

And he forgot to pay his friends.

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[TCJohnson]

And he forgot to pay his friends.

Man, that is just so un-original ;)

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[Buckminster Futter]

Don't act like it was me that you were talking to back then. Because it wasn't. You trolls on the commie boards were put in your place legally. 'Course, maybe nobody told you.

Proof positive that The Stinky One lives in his own personal Olneyverse.

[Cam63]

Commiecon? People still use commie as an insult? Really?

It is to some dick stuck in the '50s.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Man, that is just so un-original ;)

Hey...I was posting at the same time, I swear.


(I am so ashamed)

[DocAbsurd]

You are strange, Daph! How old did you profess to be? :D

For shame, 'Dick', jabbing a woman about her age. I expected better from an upstanding citizen of such reknown decency and societal politeness.

Bwa-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Almost got that out, I really did.

My Daphne has enough of a sense of 'strange' to find your moral degradation humorous.




Doc 'He Makes Me Laugh' Absurd

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[TCJohnson]

Hey...I was posting at the same time, I swear.


(I am so ashamed)

Yeah, yeah, whatever. My fictitious lawyer will be calling you and the two of you can settle it.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Small potatoes, I assure you. Wow! Things must REALLY be slow in comics if Busiek is slummin' and trollin'.

:rolleyes:

And pointing out your many, many flaws and deficiencies as a human.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yeah, yeah, whatever. My fictitious lawyer will be calling you and the two of you can settle it.

I want "Dick's" lawyer. I hear he can alter the laws of physics and unmake reality.


Seriously...does "on retainer" mean "friend of the family/relative"? Cause in that case, I have TWO lawyers "on retainer"!

[Cam63]

" Ric ", when one person hits you, he or she may have a problem.

When everyone is hitting you, chances are YOU'RE the problem.

[Momma Absurd]

For shame, 'Dick', jabbing a woman about her age. I expected better from an upstanding citizen of such reknown decency and societal politeness.

Bwa-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Almost got that out, I really did.

My Daphne has enough of a sense of 'strange' to find your moral degradation humorous.




Doc 'He Makes Me Laugh' Absurd

Let him jab hun, Mr. Onery-ititis I am a very lovely and happy 37 years of age.....the same number of years that you are going to have to work peeling tators and warshing dishes in the nuthouse kitchen by the time we are finished with you....P.S. I WON'T ALLOW anyone to feed you with a stick this time I promise!

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[Momma Absurd]

For shame, 'Dick', jabbing a woman about her age. I expected better from an upstanding citizen of such reknown decency and societal politeness.

Bwa-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Almost got that out, I really did.

My Daphne has enough of a sense of 'strange' to find your moral degradation humorous.




Doc 'He Makes Me Laugh' Absurd

Let him jab hun, Mr. Onery-ititis I am a very lovely and happy 37 years of age.....the same number of years that you are going to have to work peeling tators and warshing dishes in the nuthouse kitchen by the time we are finished with you....P.S. I WON'T ALLOW anyone to feed you with a stick this time I promise!

[DocAbsurd]

Why're you 'slumming' here, Troll-ney? Those cadavers finally get tiresome with their 'Tell-Tale Heart' routine? Or you get tired of seeing something positive being built from former-association with you?

Nono, I get it now. Your vulture recommended you stop in here to help make your 'cases' stronger in court.

And you're doing a fine job. Keep it up, you'll have that N64 in no time.




Doc 'Poe' Absurd

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[Matt Doc Martin]

:eek:
You know... you are such a disappointment. The mess at commiecon was back in 1999-2000. So that's 6, going on 7 years.So you see, Tim, I have been a raging asshole even longer than you think!

Now back to ignoring the logical questions I have no prayer of answering.







He admits it!

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[TCJohnson]

You know, the only time I have been to court is for a speeding ticket (ok, maybe more than one) and as a witness in somebody else's case. I have never been sued to anything. So here it goes.

I think Rick Olney is a raging lunatic with obvious symptoms of being bi-polar and paranoid. If I find out about anybody working with him again I am going to make sure that person sees this thread and talks to others who have been scammed by him. His reputation is ruined.

Ok, let the lawsuit begins.

By the way, "Rick" my fictitious lawyer has Mecha-Shiva action and Skeletor Glow In the Dark Face, so you better be careful.

[TCJohnson]

Yeah, it is always the fault of someone else, right Tim?



Man...Rick Olney doesn't know what the meaning of the word "hypocrite" is in the same way that fish don't understand the meaning of the word water.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yeah, it is always the fault of someone else, right Tim?

Well, I hate to end it this way for now -- but I can't post here anymore
in this thread. 'Course, this doesn't maen that you all can't keep going oabout whatever. I imagine the purpose of this thread is to vilify, demean, libel, and outright destroy my character, business, and personal life. Fortunately, I have that all under control, or so I was told. You all take care! See you in court!

Good luck with all that.

[Momma Absurd]

What about the secret tunnel you have leading to the Playboy mansion ?

Is that true too ?

Cam shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the only tunnel he has is the one hes using a teaspoon to dig his ass out right now and its under the Home for Lunatic Liars.shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this message will self destruct in 1 minute so Matlock won't have it.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Now can he be banned?

[Crowley]

oooooh Rick is now saying he's done with this thread... betcha that won't stick.

[TCJohnson]

Nope. Gail does not ban people. It is an example of the integrity that "Rick" claims she doesn't have.

[Matt Doc Martin]

oooooh Rick is now saying he's done with this thread... betcha that won't stick.

I'd sooner believe the check is in the mail.

[TCJohnson]

Oh, speaking of which, did you get that program I sent you? If not check the junk folder.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh, speaking of which, did you get that program I sent you? If not check the junk folder.

Yeah. I am all set and made the copies.

[Momma Absurd]

Yeah, it is always the fault of someone else, right Tim?

Well, I hate to end it this way for now -- but I can't post here anymore
in this thread. 'Course, this doesn't maen that you all can't keep going oabout whatever. I imagine the purpose of this thread is to vilify, demean, libel, and outright destroy my character, business, and personal life. Fortunately, I have that all under control, or so I was told. You all take care! See you in court!


HARDEEEEHARRRRRHARRRRRR you can't post here anymore because it is hard for you to take 1 lame brain and fight it against several intelligent ones....we cannot demean a character that doesn't exist either and the only THING you have UNDER CONTROL Mr. Onery IS your bladder, and you won't have that when your staring at the whites of OUR attorneys eyes........

Happy New Year to you, Happy New Year to you, Happy New Year Mr. Onery Happy New Year to you!!!............... God knows the last 40 have sucked for you!!!

[Cam63]

:eek:
You know... you are such a disappointment. The mess at commiecon was back in 1999-2000. So that's 6, going on 7 years. Oh, and for the record -- I have never been banned here on CBR. Always got along with most, 'course now in reading how petty, shallow, and trollish so many are ... so predictably controlled by "Gail Simone" and her "professional" sideshow. It is easy to see how fecked you really are, Tim. Never realized that after all our telephone conversations.

Yeah...riiiiiight.

[Cam63]

Yeah, it is always the fault of someone else, right Tim?

Well, I hate to end it this way for now -- but I can't post here anymore
in this thread. 'Course, this doesn't maen that you all can't keep going oabout whatever. I imagine the purpose of this thread is to vilify, demean, libel, and outright destroy my character, business, and personal life. Fortunately, I have that all under control, or so I was told. You all take care! See you in court!

Buh bye, fuckwit.

[DocAbsurd]

:eek:
You know... you are such a disappointment. The mess at commiecon was back in 1999-2000. So that's 6, going on 7 years. Oh, and for the record -- I have never been banned here on CBR. Always got along with most, 'course now in reading how petty, shallow, and trollish so many are ... so predictably controlled by "Gail Simone" and her "professional" sideshow. It is easy to see how fecked you really are, Tim. Never realized that after all our telephone conversations.

Then tell me why you still brag about the whole incident, wear it on your ego-inflated chest like some Red Badge of Courage? You talk about it like it happened yesterday, and you can't wait for it to happen again. Once a month, the blame of one of your current woes inevitably went back to either Comicon.com or to Mr Shires.

I'm a disappointment? Why? Cuz I finally had enough of your shyte, enough of your empty promises, enough of your unfulfilled obligations? Must be a real disappointment knowing someone you had molded into the perfect patsy finally read through all the claims against you and realized, as the saying goes, '50,000 Frenchmen can't be wrong'. It's called 'preponderance of evidence'; ask your imaginary attorney about that. And after I finally spoke out, I started getting notes of thanks from others who've likewise been screwed by the Olney Inquistion.

Let's talk about disappointments. Someone I trusted, I believed, turned out to be churning more fertilizer than every dairy farm in the mid-west combined. I stuck up for you even when it cost me friendships and associates. You been that disappointed, 'Dick'? I didn't lie to you, twist events so I turned out to be the victimized hero. I even referred to you as 'Mr Rick' to the Things when they asked me about our phone calls. I had that much respect for you.

Which is more than you can claim when you lied to me about the columns, about the auctions, about the ICC. Can't have much respect for someone when you constantly lie to them.

I'd advise you not to have a heart-attack over it, but you'd need a heart first.




Doc 'R-E-S-P-E-C-T, Find Out What that Means to Me' Absurd

[DocAbsurd]

Yeah, it is always the fault of someone else, right Tim?

I dunno, 'Dick', you tell me.

First canceled show wasn't your fault, it was the heart-attack. Second canceled show wasn't your fault, it was the financial problems of your parents. Third canceled show wasn't your fault, it was the family dropping like flies. TotS's late-release date wasn't your fault, it was legalities. Non-payment to Ronee for 7 months wasn't your fault, it was the lack of NDA. All those creators dropping out of TLE's flagship title releases wasn't your fault, it was their unreasonable demands of payment.

Gail forged. Chuck lied. Sarah made you behave. Mike asked you to salvage your reputation and fulfill your monetary obligations. Ian called you out for the bastard you are. And I'm skipping over on the dozens and dozens of web-designers, writers, inkers, colorists, pencilers, etc, who've since come forward to -- as you put it -- claim falsehoods against you.

I'm glad you're focusing on me now, 'Dick'. We've had many conversations that aren't bound by some all-inclusive NDA. You forget, I've proven my integrity, my sincerity. I have no reason to lie.

Well, I hate to end it this way for now -- but I can't post here anymore in this thread. 'Course, this doesn't maen that you all can't keep going oabout whatever. I imagine the purpose of this thread is to vilify, demean, libel, and outright destroy my character, business, and personal life. Fortunately, I have that all under control, or so I was told. You all take care! See you in court!

Oooooooooo, I'm shaking in my boots. Gonna threaten me again? Or you gonna make more fun of the shyte my children and myself have been through?

We can't possibly 'vilify, demean, libel, and outright destroy [your] character, business, and personal life' any more than you already have. There's something you can take full credit for, 'Dick'. Pin that on your chest next to your Comicon.com medals.

Daphne and I will be waiting for you at the courthouse, 'Dick'. Hope you figure out how to write cashable checks by then.




Doc 'Don't Let the Doorknob Get Stuck in Your Arse on the Way Out' Absurd

[Crowley]

check this out:
http://thevhive.com/forum/index.php?webtag=THEV&final_uri=.%2Fdiscussion.php%3Fwebtag%3DTHEV%26amp %3Bmsg%3D180.5556

[Matt Doc Martin]

check this out:
http://thevhive.com/forum/index.php?webtag=THEV&final_uri=.%2Fdiscussion.php%3Fwebtag%3DTHEV%26amp %3Bmsg%3D180.5556

BASICALLY, I'VE BEEN SINGING SINCE THE DAY I COULD TALK. ITS ALL IVE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT AND HAVE DONE. MUSIC IS MY LIFE, AND AINT NOBODY GONNA TAKE THAT SHIT AWAY. IM REAL, ALL OF MY LYRICS ARE TRUE, REAL SITUATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. I JUST DONT MAKE SHIT UP LIKE ALOTTA BUBBLE GUM POP PRINCESSES HAVE. BUNCHA FAKE BITCHES. IT TAKES A TRUE ARTIST, WITH MAD DEDICATION TO MAKE TRUE MUSIC. AND THATS WHAT IM ALL ABOUT.


"~::THA HOTTEST UP N COMIN' SONGSTRESS::~"


Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

[TCJohnson]

Seriously, let's not go there. The poor girl can't help who her father is. Let's be above that. Attacking the family is something "Rick" would do.