Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber? [Archive] - Page 46

Draconomicon

01-28-2007, 12:15 PM

It's just too funny. So, you don't really care that the "big deal" she's made of the situation has the consequence that no one seeing your name attached to anything will go anywhere near it? It's enough for you that "everyone knows your name"?

Oooooooooookay. There you have it friends! He doesn't care that his name is shit, he just cares that you KNOW IT IS SHIT.

(Sorry, I don't usually post in language like that but somehow the subject matter just calls for it.)
It is his, rather pathetic, try on reverse psychology.
"See, you talked about me and now you achieved the opposite of what you wanted! Instead of forgetting about me (and allowing me to continue my 'evil schemes') everyone knows about me! Which gives me... ZERO advantage, but makes me able to at least try to look better than I do! SHUDDER! IN! FEAR!"

wishlish

01-28-2007, 12:17 PM

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.

So the man who wrote "Choke on it, bitch" and posted the "iKill" image wants personal attacks to stop?

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 12:17 PM

And he is still online.

Hi, peanut!

Am I asking too many questions at once? I figured since most were yes/no answers that you'd be able to handle it.

How about starting with the ones in red?

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Did you pay them for their last appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip? (Your country clerk has a notarized document that you and your wife signed two weeks ago dissolving TLE. It's public record.) -stolen from Wishlish

4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

And did you threaten Michael with a lawsuit?

Cause he says you did......

Sarah Beach

01-28-2007, 12:17 PM

No, I'm gone. I thought I could come here, apologize, and try to answer the important questions. I now see that that is indeed fruitless. Well, except for you , Sam. Now that you're here ... and I see Buckfutter welcoming you ... this will soon drop to fruit-of-the-room level. Cya!

Yeah, well I was "real" impressed by that apology. NOT. Because there was precious little effort directed at genuine apology to those you directly insulted - either myself or any of the others -- and given how feebly you insulted me, I'd even give you a discount, if I'd seen you apologize for insulting Gail, or Mark, or Kurt, or Scott! Shaw, or Tim, or Daphne, or any of the others.

But you didn't do that. You waved a vague "Oh gee, folks, sorry I was sort of nasty there a little bit. Didn't mean it." instead. Not particularly effective, Mr. "Writer". You could always try again. Professional writing involves a lot of rewriting, after all. Or are you thinking that your first drafts are golden?

bert

01-28-2007, 12:19 PM

Hey now, if Chris is the one to frisk him, there won't be anything left of him. And I think there's a waiting list of people who want to help "frisk" him.

Leave something for the rest of us, dammit!

~Bev

Don't you know that's just a "myth" about Black Gentlemen?

Jamie Coville

01-28-2007, 12:22 PM

I know. Rick calling someone a 'wannabe,' is one of the funniest things he's ever said.

Gail

It made me laugh too! I'm almost curious as to what Rick thinks I 'wannabe'?

wishlish

01-28-2007, 12:23 PM

Well, you're wrong on many counts again. Does this all constitute a lie?

Calling my event a "shitty" con is just another of your specific targeted slights. It has been noted. ORCA never completely disbanded. TightLip Entertainment isn't dissolved. Where do you reach for these lies?

Your country clerk has a notarized document that you and your wife signed two weeks ago dissolving TLE. It's public record.

Sarah Beach

01-28-2007, 12:29 PM

It made me laugh too! I'm almost curious as to what Rick thinks I 'wannabe'?

Oh, come on! It's perfectly obvious. You "wannabe" a writer. Because it's not like you've managed to get anything into print anywhere, right?

Oh, wait. Nevermind! ;)

That's the absurdest thing about so many of his attacks -- he insults the very things that are people's strengths, and are self-evident. As if his insult somehow wipes away already established achievements.

Ronée

01-28-2007, 12:30 PM

My only 'Olney' question is -- Did Ronee hook you up with that job too? Sorry to hear that you're onhold with that company.
No I did not... and all you just did is prove that YOU are a fucked up company to work for. As i did hook him up with you... (something I will regret for the rest of my life as well as anything else I got into where you were concerned)

What was your point in asking that particular question?

DocAbsurd

01-28-2007, 12:31 PM

So "Gail" ... You have stated several times on this thread that I have an unpleasing body odor, and that you were discomforted that day back in 2003 at the Mighty Mini-Con during a car ride, and also at the event. That is what you said, correct?

It is a childish sort of personal attack on your part, but it is also a lie.

I believe I've already proven that your memory of riding to Syracuse that Saturday night was incorrect. Mr. Kininger was nice enough to supply me with your email(s) headers intact where you explain to him that you basically just had it in for me and saying that my was stinky, when it was his car that you rode to Syracuse to that night. He took umbrage to your claim, because to the best of his knowledge ... his car had no odor, although after a day at a comics event ... he explained that he may have had a slight scent, which he also said he wasn't aware of.

So lies can be huge or small. This is a small one that you pulled out of your ass, but it is a lie none-the-less.

Or, you can completely mis-read what's been said page after page after page, twist everything around, and make yourself come out the injured party. Again.

Gail did not mention the ride to Syracuse. It was the ride to the actual show. I rode with Den; there was no smell. Jesus, if you can fecking look up your membership records for OKRA from a decade to harass yet another person who spoke out against you, surely you can be troubled to re-read the screen caps provided herein to find out exactly what was said.

Note to the community here: I will not be answering a great number of questions here. I clearly understand that a few of you are genuine in your concern for my being forthcoming in paying talents that have worked for my company on publishing projects. I am getting those talents sorted out to be paid. Unfortunately, this message thread has compounded that in some
regard, as certain talents have compromised themselves. I'm sure that as they're paid, they'll share whatever information they can or feel obligated to with you all.

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.

What sorting? What compounding? What compromising? You're just doing your trademarked Olney Two-Step, avoiding what you obligated yourself to do. You think because we spoke out publicly that somehow invalidates what you owe us?

You've had years, Moby -- three years in my specific case -- to sort thru and work out payments and actually make an effort to send out the monies. Yet you do nothing but take offense and call us bullies and smear our names behind our backs; you delete evidence and lock us out of your forums and try in vain to drive more wedges between us.

Now you're apologizing. How fecking laughable. You continually parade back here, accidentally admit you owe money, tie it back up in legalities so we're 'eventually' paid, blame it on those of us who need 'sorting', and then ask for our forgiveness.

Sod off. You owe me fecking money. Those columns are out there on the internet, Google; you tried to sweep them under the rug with your other 'First Amendment Right to Delete', but it didn't work. Why should I forgive you? Because you asked nicely? I asked you nicely to pay me years ago; I accepted your lame excuses as you 'hired' more and more talent.

I've only got so many cheeks to turn.

wishlish

01-28-2007, 12:32 PM

Lance, I'm finally getting down to reading this page. Did you really want me to get personal about your wife and life. Is this what this thread is all about with personal attacks?

You've made enough of them, Rick. You seem to think that it's okay for you to personally attack people but not okay for them to attack you.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Your mother would be ashamed at your conduct after she died.

Sparvid

01-28-2007, 12:33 PM

Main Entry: de·fame
to harm the reputation of by libel or slander

Actually, the real word calls what Gail did here "tell the truth." It's not defamation when you really are a stinking weasel, Rickie.

http://www.attorneys-usa.com/intentional/defamation.html

Defamation is the issuance of a false statement about another person, which causes that person to suffer harm

Truth is considered to be an "absolute defense" to a defamation action. If the statements made by the defendant are true, a defamation action cannot succeed.

Where a statement is found to be a "fair comment on a matter of public interest", the statement will not ordinarily support an action for defamation. For example, if the mayor of a town is involved in a corruption scandal, the expression of an opinion that you believe the allegations are credible is not likely to support a defamation action against you.

A person may become a "limited public figure" by engaging in actions which generate publicity within a narrow area of interest. Example: A woman named Terry Rakolta was offended by the Fox Television show, Married With Children, and wrote letters to the show's advertisers to try to get them to stop their support for the show. Her actions attracted media attention, and as a result Ms. Rakolta became the target of jokes in a wide variety of settings. As these jokes remained within the confines of her public conduct, typically ridiculing her as prudish or censorious, the jokesters were protected by Ms. Rakolta's status as a "limited public figure".

And for Rick:

If you are considering filing an action for defamation, you may wish to consider the following:

High Cost - Defamation actions tend to be costly to pursue. When brough against major media companies or publishers, or their employees, you should expect that the case will be capably defended by highly skilled defense attorneys.

Low Recovery - Defamation actions rarely result in sizeable awards of damages, and it is not unusual for the cost of pursuing a defamation action to exceed the ultimate recovery.

Publicity - The publicity associated with litigating a defamation claim can actually serve to expose a greater audience to the false allegations than they previously enjoyed. In the event that a newspaper or news show picks up the story of the defamation lawsuit, defamatory statements previously known to only a handful of people can suddenly become known by the entire community - sometimes the entire nation or world. Sometimes the media will do a poor job of subsequently covering the verdict, such that the public hears the defamatory allegations but doesn't learn that the plaintiff was successful in the lawsuit.

Difficulty of Proving Defamation - It is sometimes not possible for a plaintiff to establish all of the elements of a defamation action, even where the defendant's statements were entirely false. Most people who hear that a plaintiff lost a defamation action aren't interested in the nuance - they will instead assume that the loss means that the allegations which inspired the suit were true.

Sparvid

01-28-2007, 12:35 PM

Nice. And what your hard luck story, wannbe? So starved for attention that you need somebody to hate to give your life substance? Sad, Jamie... Changed my opinion of you that I've held all these years. One of "Gail's" fanbot groupies now? :rolleyes:

For Christ's sake, would you please edit your insults before posting them, so that they're in English? Grammar and spelling are wonderful things, you might consider using some.

And contrary to what you think, Rick, most people hate you because you're a liar and a cheat. That's reason enough, don't you find?

Gail

The battle of the century: Fanbot vs Frankenborg!

wishlish

01-28-2007, 12:37 PM

"Gail" this entire post shows how much you don't know about the comics entertainment industry. And, I am a big deal. You've MADE me a big deal. Thank you. ;)

Oh my. NOW I get it. Rick thinks that, since he's now been thoroughly exposed as a fraudulent, lying, smelly, misogynistic deadbeat that he's FAMOUS, and because he's FAMOUS, he's SUCCESSFUL.

Oh my.

Um....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Ronée

01-28-2007, 12:38 PM

Take your best shot, Ronee. You never wanted it any other way anyway. Just be prepared for the countersuit.Countersuit? Kiss my ass, youd have a have a real lawyer first. I truly feel sorry for you Rick... karma is about to deal you something awful, I just hope I am there to see it and point and laugh.

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 12:38 PM

So...bets on how long before another blog appears where peanut talks about how he tried to "do the right thing" and was unfairly maligned? And how we will all "pay the price", and how he "doesn't want to sue, but his hand is forced, those meanies!"

He will be back here within a week.

EDIT: He is on his blog now...we shall see.

Paul D. Storrie

01-28-2007, 12:39 PM

Oh my. NOW I get it. Rick thinks that, since he's now been thoroughly exposed as a fraudulent, lying, smelly, misogynistic deadbeat that he's FAMOUS, and because he's FAMOUS, he's SUCCESSFUL.

Oh my.

Um....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Someone should, perhaps, explain to Olney the Lonely that there is a difference between famous and infamous. And not the one suggested towards the beginning of The Three Amigos.

PDS

Cam63

01-28-2007, 12:40 PM

The van actually works???

Well, there's a hole in the floor where the driver pushes it along with his feet Flintstone style.

Sparvid

01-28-2007, 12:43 PM

Someone should, perhaps, explain to Olney the Lonely that there is a difference between famous and infamous.

Oooh, I can do that!

And not the one suggested towards the beginning of The Three Amigos.

Damn! Well, I'm out of ideas...

Cam63

01-28-2007, 12:44 PM

Boy, Scott Shaw! really knows his patterns. I'm telling you.

I dunno. Have you seen Scott's shirts ?

Cam63

01-28-2007, 12:46 PM

He must be conferring with "council" on what he should answer.

Would that be the white sock or the argyle one ?

Cam63

01-28-2007, 12:49 PM

Talking to one's self is not usually a good sign.

Talking to oneself is passable, but arguing with oneself gets you a long sleeved jacket and a stay in the rubber room.

Sarah Beach

01-28-2007, 12:50 PM

Would that be the white sock or the argyle one ?

Which reminds me! DocAbsurd, how you coming with separating the Sockpuppet from the background of that artwork? Because I totally want a t-shirt with it!

In fact, I'd buy it even with that background block!

EdContradictory

01-28-2007, 12:55 PM

In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.

Wow. Scott Shaw! was right. So what's after the apology? I forget. Bigger meltdown?

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 12:56 PM

2 days. Tops.

~Bev

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 12:58 PM

C'mon Rick! TYPE FASTER!

We are all a-flutter awaiting your words! Give them to your hungry flock!

Samuel Catalino

01-28-2007, 12:58 PM

2 days. Tops.

~Bev

Bev,

We should have a contest to guess when R.O. returns.

What do you think folks?

Best,

Samuel

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 01:01 PM

Bev,

We should have a contest to guess when R.O. returns.

What do you think folks?

Best,

Samuel

I will start a poll.

Sarah Beach

01-28-2007, 01:01 PM

C'mon Rick! TYPE FASTER!

We are all a-flutter awaiting your words! Give them to your hungry flock!

Now, wait a minute there, Matt. You're making us sound like a flock of ducks, waiting for bread scraps!

Ah, I fondly remember Sunday afternoons at the park with the family, feeding the ducks. At least they were cute and entertaining. (Unlike certain creeping and creepy legumes.)

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 01:02 PM

C'mon Rick! TYPE FASTER!

We are all a-flutter awaiting your words! Give them to your hungry flock!
Now now... Be patient, Matt. He DOES have a lot of stories to make up (again).

~Bev

EdContradictory

01-28-2007, 01:02 PM

I'm noy upset at all, Danny. JT was actually too slow in turning out actual pages, and was replaced for that reason after the new creative director made a few suggestions that he wanted to see implimented. Great artist, but very slow. ..or at least unable to be consistent. Not a critical point, just my opinion.
What kind of salary is that new creative director pulling in?

Samuel Catalino

01-28-2007, 01:03 PM

I will start a poll.

Matt,

Just don't be climbing it.

Say, did you get my PM, Matt?

Best,

Samuel

EdContradictory

01-28-2007, 01:05 PM

this will soon drop to fruit-of-the-room level. Cya!
What the hell is "fruit-of-the-room level"?

neko onna

01-28-2007, 01:07 PM

What the hell is "fruit-of-the-room level"?

that's what I asked..and the l and the r are nowhere near each other on a keyboard :confused:

DocAbsurd

01-28-2007, 01:07 PM

Why would I knock the ICC? As you of all people are aware, I actually created the concept and framework of the ICC. You simply created the logo that replaced the logo that our first third party originally did...before he dropped out. I have a legal claim and proof to "Independent Creators Coalition" by the way, but I doubt I'd challenge you on any aspect of it ... as I want to see it grow into something positive and cross-promotional.

You came up with the germ of an idea to create a group for small press creators; your entire purpose was to steal members away from Ian and the SPA. I came up with the name, the logo, brought in members who were actually excited when I told them -- no, when I had to lie to them -- that you had no involvement.

The first logo was an interim placement; you said so yourself. It was there until I finished the design myself. 'First third party'? How many people did you have behind the scenes of the project you told me was all mine to direct as I saw fit?

And now that I'm talking to other creators, I've discovered you couldn't keep your trap shut. All the time I was lying and saying you had no connection, you were bragging away about how the ICC was all yours; no-one else was steering the ship but you.

The only idea you actually had was to create T-shirts -- which I was designing -- that we'd offer to creators at cost to sell at shows to promote themselves and the MMC. I came up with the calendar, the connected anthology, the mciro-comics we were gonna do in conjunction with Lance and the IF. I admitted things got held up on my end because of what you've intimated were my made-up hassles with my ex; things were stalled as well because you couldn't secure financing. You gonna admit that?

Legal claim? C'mon, Moby; you've got fewer legs to stand on than Ahab.

You're welcome to get kissy-face with Shires or anyone else that you railed on over the last few years too. I don't care. I did, and will continue to do, what I've done for small press creators right along. We provide FREE table space at the Mighty Mini-Con and any other conjoined effort. Seriously, I'm glad it took you getting pissed at me to get off your dead ass and be creative again. Wish you and Daphne nothing but the best. Oh, and your sweetie's report about the local DA here was bullshit. Sorry to burst that bubble.

'Kissy-face'? So because I've finally gotten the other chapters to your never-ending saga and started mending fences with creators you'd portrayed as vile and bitter, I'm kissy-face? Maybe you oughta try puckering up a bit, Moby.

I notice you're back on the 'small press' bandwagon again. Thought you wiped your hands clean of us, Moby? Or did you see an available coattail to jump upon? Make up your mind; you know our very existence depends on you.

Oh, and 'dead ass' ain't a compliment. Maybe you should try having your life yanked out from under you and worry daily for months whether your insane ex is coming after your children. Yeah, I wasn't productive for over a year after the divorce; I had 2 children in counseling because of that shyte. But rather than take on assignments and make excuses like you did, I abstained from any sort of creative endeavor I knew I wasn't up to.

You think my getting pissed at you got me creative again? You really are delusional. Getting pissed at you got me talking again, nothing more. I'd been conversing with creators well before you tried dragging me into your conflagration with Mr Dixon. Does it hurt you that I didn't discuss such matters? Is that more evidence of my 'kissy-face'?

Daphne and the Things are the only ones who deserve credit for the re-ignition of my creative spark. You were and continue to be nothing more than a damper.

Don't wish my family and myself anything, you condescending jack-ass. The only thing I want from you, now that I have the ICC in capable hands, is the money you owe me.

Certified check.

Doc 'Certifiable, I Say' Absurd

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 01:12 PM

Awww...Ricky signed off of MySpace without posting. My guess now? He sent out emails from there threatening people again.

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 01:13 PM

Awww...Ricky signed off of MySpace without posting. My guess now? He sent out emails from there threatening people again.
Either that or he needs a LOT more time to come up with lies, excuses, insults and such.

~Bev

Brian "Vash" Ashby

01-28-2007, 01:17 PM

Sarah Beach

01-28-2007, 01:18 PM

What the hell is "fruit-of-the-room level"?

ED, this is just a guess on my part, and I only make it because ... well, a couple of weeks back, Gail made me participate in a "write like Olney" exercise. It's all her fault, you know. She tied me to my computer chair (yes, even all the way from Oregon to So. Cal.)! ;)

Oh.... I think he's trying to be clever, and means "a fart". With the side reference of "underwear" (though only God or the Devil knows why).

But it's a really, really, reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaalllllllyyyyyyyy long reach for it. And I'm just guessing.

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 01:18 PM

TomStillwell

01-28-2007, 01:19 PM

Awww...Ricky signed off of MySpace without posting. My guess now? He sent out emails from there threatening people again.

Nah, his wife came home from church and caught him on the computer again.

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 01:21 PM

I just felt like i should post in this thread. Although i know nothing about Rick Olney its not the first time i've heard about artists being screwed. Its a sad bit of business that unfortunately is common in this industry.

Or some such.
Be prepared to join the ranks of trolls, fanbots, bitches and hos.

Whether or not you've said anything "mean" (or, in reality, TRUE) about him.

Just because you posted here. :D

~Bev

Crowley

01-28-2007, 01:24 PM

He really is a big wheel in comics though:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/kingoftheworld.png
"He's King of the World!"*

Just ask him.

DocAbsurd

01-28-2007, 01:25 PM

So there's no longer any question in Moby's addled mind, here's the design for the T-shirts:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/DocABsurd206/Smittyshirtcopy.jpg

The idea was to have characters interact with their names or logos in some fashion; in this case, Smitty is a bartender so he's leaning across his name like a publican would.

The sleeves would have the ICC logo on one side:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/DocABsurd206/ICClogo.jpg

And the MMC logo on the other.

I also though of making the shirts with the book's title over the left side on the front and the image on the back. I was 'told' we had a printer lined up who could handle any shirt design.

The calendar was different than the usual offering, too; I intended to make it a one sheet job for the first couple offerings with the creators characters interacting with each other as well as the months. This was something everyone could take to conventions to promote their work and the books of others. Hence the cross-promotions, another one of my originations.

Care to give your side, Moby? I'll give you a few days to concoct something. I've got witnesses.

Brian "Vash" Ashby

01-28-2007, 01:26 PM

You are a target of his now.

I'd be scared but that mofo didnt even have 100 dollars to pay Gail. What, is he going to throw pennies at me? :D

Sarah Beach

01-28-2007, 01:28 PM

Dang, but I like your work, Doc! Nice.

Samuel Catalino

01-28-2007, 01:29 PM

You are a target of his now.

Matt,

He should not worry. He misses most of his targets.

Best,

Samuel

Crowley

01-28-2007, 01:35 PM

Matt,

He should not worry. He misses most of his targets.

Best,

Samuel

of course:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/dodobird.png

tiny brains, tiny wings, tiny gun.

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 01:47 PM

I'd be scared but that mofo didnt even have 100 dollars to pay Gail. What, is he going to throw pennies at me? :D
I like your style! :)

~Bev

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 02:02 PM

As Diana Fan said, Dementia 13 is a groovy little ax murderer horror flick that was Coppola's first film. And yes while he had done some co-directing with Roger Corman and did one or two soft porn jobs, Dementia 13 was his first real directing job.

Coppola was assisting Corman on the set of The Young Racers (1963) in Ireland. Corman allowed Coppola to use the same set, crew and actors Luana Anders, William Campbell and Patrick Magee for this film if he could shoot around the shooting schedule of Corman's film.

And at one point...heads roll. Well...one head anyway. So...kind of like Olney. ;)

I actually remember this movie...it's fun! I was thinking you were talking about a comic.

:)

Gail

THEDOC

01-28-2007, 02:05 PM

Lance, I'm finally getting down to reading this page. Did you really want me to get personal about your wife and life. Is this what this thread is all about with personal attacks?

What about my wife? What personal attack? I just said your wife might be helping you as you seem to have meltdowns and can't get your point across.
Sorry, but your sincere pleas leave a lot to be desired seeing your history.
My wife is the muse of IF and the woman I adore so bring it on if you have something to say nutcase. you can't hurt us.
Oh right you left again..more dinner?

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 02:10 PM

Also -- The anti-woman comments were not anti-woman comments. To clarify, I had a problem back then with how fans were being called "fanboys" ... because Wizard and people like Donna Barr, who I actually no longer read or endorse, were taking the image of the average comic book reader and shaping it into this person that never bathed, wore only flannel shirts, and dragged their entire collections to conventions to get in line and have their favorite 'talent' sign as many books as that person would...only to get back in line and repeat the process. It actually came to light after a mother that had been getting comics for her son and daughter called me to talk about the negative image she saw that was associated with comic book reading. I understood and agreed with her point, again take into consideration the move away from popular spandex driven mainstream that the Indy market and people like Donna Barr were working hard to out shine to get attention and sales paid to them. Anyway, long story short -- Wizard cut back on that sort of thing and Donna Barr wasn't bothered at all.

"Gail" ... try not to perpetuate this image lie of me, wouldja? Thanks.

Uh, huh. Along with calling myself and Joanne bitches, and calling her a 'douche bag' and the numerous other gender-specific attacks, I think you perpetuated your rep as a woman-hater quite well on your own.

Gail

EdContradictory

01-28-2007, 02:11 PM

What the hell is "fruit-of-the-room level"?
that's what I asked..and the l and the r are nowhere near each other on a keyboard :confused:
Then what the hell is "fruit of the loom level"?

THEDOC

01-28-2007, 02:14 PM

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 02:15 PM

"Gail" ... I'm just wondering about something. Once these 'talents' are paid by me how are you going to retract what you said and implied about me personally here?

Rick, you don't seem to understand. I don't give a shit about you. Blocking you from my email and myspace site were two of the smartest things I've ever done, and if I never read your incomprehensible writing again, it'll be too soon.

The sole reason I started this thread was because you cheated creators and instead of being an honorable guy, you chose to insult and threaten them.

If you pay them, yes, I will HAPPILY tell the world you honored some of your obligations. That's all I care about. I will post it front page here, I will happily tell anyone who asks precisely what you've done.

Do I think it'll happen? Not for a moment. But unlike you, I keep my word, and I'll gladly tell people.

Don't judge ME by YOUR dishonorable standards and behaviors.

Gail

Jack Zodiac

01-28-2007, 02:17 PM

He really is a big wheel in comics though:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/kingoftheworld.png
"He's King of the World!"*

Just ask him.

He's like Victor Fox, except instead of talking big and doing something, he just talks bigger.

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 02:17 PM

You've got her there. She won't be able to, because by then we'll all be too busy defending ourselves from the Morlocks. On the plus side, however, you might have been able to find a lawyer by then.

"Rick"...I'm just wondering about something. Are you unaware that continually putting the word "talents" in quotation marks is insulting, or are you intentionally back to making personal attacks after asking for a cease-fire? Which is it?

COMPLETE SPIT-TAKE ON THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH.

Gail

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 02:18 PM

Why the quote marks around the word talent, Rick? Are you trying to imply that you don't think much of their abilities? Cripes, call the talent the talent, and have done with it. It's a standard, useful term in entertainment circles, and everyone understands who it applies to. Get some business sense, why don't you? Particularly in the business you claim to be working in!

As for what Gail has said, why should she retract anything? Why should she retract statements about how it took her over 2 years to get reimbursed for expenses incurred going to your con, which should have been paid upfront by you? And even if you do finally get around to paying some of the talent, you've done so after the some unprofessional, disgusting dragging out of payment I've ever seen by anyone. You're not going to be changing the past by finally getting around to paying people. You may only be changing your future in the business -- and I say that advisedly, just as a hypothetical. I don't actually think you do have a future in the business. Not in reality.

Yes, he thought so poorly of my 'talents' that he BEGGED me to commit to his next con following the nightmare I attended.

Gail

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 02:20 PM

You are simply ridiculous, Joanne... I have no intention of contacting Eddie. His experience wasn't a good one. So what? :rolleyes:

Then you obviously deny calling Michael, a very nice guy and former Orca member who simply posted a message you didn't like?

Gail

Jack Zodiac

01-28-2007, 02:20 PM

I like how he thinks that even if he paid all the people he fucked, he'd somehow be in the clear. That's genuine fuckin' delusion right there.

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 02:22 PM

Okay, Sarah... have it your way. I don't need to post here.

Nope, but being a fear-based deadbeat who thinks lies clear away dishonorable actions, you will, obviously.

Gail

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 02:26 PM

"Gail" this entire post shows how much you don't know about the comics entertainment industry. And, I am a big deal. You've MADE me a big deal. Thank you. ;)

Well, you certainly weren't capable of doing it on your OWN.

And Rick, sorry, I'm actually IN the industry. You met Stan Lee at a party? I'm friends with the heads of nearly every major company in the industry. I don't trade on the fame of others, however.

And your idiotic business model (that has failed you completely,obviously) for conventions and publishings prove you a delusional hack incompetent.

Sorry.

But man, is it true.

Gail

OzBat!

01-28-2007, 02:27 PM

Calling my event a "shitty" con is just another of your specific targeted slights. It has been noted. ORCA never completely disbanded.As long as Rick holds it dear to his heart, it will NEVER DIE!!TightLip Entertainment isn't dissolved.Yeahhhh, right. Legal Reality says otherwise. Or were the Rick and Barbara Olney who signed off on those documents, pennames? That way they wouldn't really exist..."Gail" it will be my pleasure to watch and make note of how people perceive you long after you've learned your lesson of attacking real people online. Your goals are obvious in the legal sense. You're even stooping lower hoping to draw attention to yourself. "What's good for the goose is good for the gander."Hey Rick, have you seen The Simone Files (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=98825)?? Oh, look at that! Newsarama interviews with gail, about EACH of her PUBLISHED TITLES! Ouch, that stings! Come back to us when you have something physical on the stands, stop hyping non-existant product.Yes, you've done a job on me, have you not? The real world calls that defamation of character. While, you may be able to prove that I'm not perfect -- it in no way makes up or out distances what you've done in libel and slander towards me.As has been pointed out many times Rick, it isn't libel or slander when it's true. This is the killer part of your legal defence that you are really gonna choke on. And I'm not talking about your pathetic attempts at harrassment with threatening to sue, I'm talking about others suing YOU. We know you've received papers. How many this year? And we're still in January! And I'm telling you now, the court is not going to look on non-payment favourably when your only defence is "they said mean things about me! You don't need to read the 600 pages of supporting documentation that proves every word is correct! Believe me! Isn't this a face you can trust??"I would also hope that any impending displacement won't be too upsetting in your personal real life. These are not threats, nor made in a threatening tone. I'm just sure that you're not smart enough to know better.Yeah, getting up and going to real conventions does cause a bit of displacement from normal routines, you are correct. Thank you for your concern.

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 02:28 PM

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 02:35 PM

Reality has a well-known anti-Olney bias.

Gail

TomStillwell

01-28-2007, 02:36 PM

You know, I was just passing e-mails with one of the freelancers who works for me. He mentioned that I'm a keeper as a client and he's excited to plug the books we're working on wherever he can. He's doing that on his own simply because I treat him with respect and pay him for his work.

This is also someone who has gone unpaid for years by Rick Olney.

Rick, did it ever dawn on you that treating the people working for TLE with decency and fairly compensating them for their work would have paid off big time for your projects?

Lots of people here have said they probably would have bought TOTS #1 before all this came out. Now imagine a half dozen happy freelancers spreading the word about the book all over the internet, to their friends, to other professionals, during interviews, to people in comic shops, and at conventions. That's something no amount of money can pay cover.

Not only are you a failure as a person, you absolutely miss the mark as any kind of business man, especially if you believe the publicity you are getting now is any match for the publicity you could have had.

DocAbsurd

01-28-2007, 02:43 PM

Someone help me here; I'm trying to compile a list of accomplishments Moby accredits to himself.

So far I've got:

6 successful Mighty MiniCons

2 successful Spooky shows

Comics in the Classroom and CrossGen's BRIDGES program

Marvel's 99 cent line of comics

donations of several hundred comics to various charities

the ICC

my re-discovery of creative output

Since we're all trapped in this parallel dimension, let's play along and see what else we can find in his posts.

Doc 'Elseworld' Absurd

Chris N

01-28-2007, 02:44 PM

Wasn't he also behind the idea of putting comics in libraries?

And don't forget the character in Star Wars named after him.

TomStillwell

01-28-2007, 02:46 PM

You forgot being the inspiration for the Ric Olie action figure.

Also, the 3600 membership of ORCA.

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 02:47 PM

Magneto_X

01-28-2007, 02:47 PM

But seriously I would NOT want to be a member of Rick's family, their untimely demise has been the excuse of many a canceled convention.

If its true my heart goes out to him for losing family members but isn't it odd they all start giving up the ghost right before a convention or a book is supposed to come out?

color me curious.

I doubt any member of Rick's family died. Or if they did it was a "lucky" coincidence.

Chris N

01-28-2007, 02:47 PM

And that Kurt Busiek is jealous of his success

EdContradictory

01-28-2007, 02:48 PM

You forgot being the inspiration for the Ric Olie action figure.

Also, the 3600 membership of ORCA.

International members

TomStillwell

01-28-2007, 02:52 PM

He also claims to have loved lots of Asian women while in the service and ONLY having to pay for 1/3 of them.

Oh, and he's a big game hunter. Heh.

Larry Dixon

01-28-2007, 03:11 PM

But if you do that, then the guy who wrote the dictionary can force you to put his copyright notice on anything you write. (And it probably will be a guy. I'm pretty sure Funk N. Wagnall is a guy. Same with M. Eric N. Heritage and "Ox" Ford. They let Mary M. Webster write one, but she's just a token.)

Nat! Shame on you. :) That's brilliant. Love your work by the way! You make my library and brain happy.

Here's an odd thought: Do you suppose that the term "hobby" is used for tax purposes? IE, hobby expenses are deductible seperate from business expenses....

Urgh. Need caffiene and food. I can feel my clutch slipping....

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 03:12 PM

Oh, and he's a big game hunter. Heh.

Getting to the 3rd round of "Duck Hunter" does not make you a big game hunter.

neko onna

01-28-2007, 03:12 PM

to continue with the Python theme running through this thread...

http://www.airbrushcat.com/pics2/orcafresh.jpg

:D

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 03:13 PM

Ugly is, as ugly does, Blake. I can only assume that you think that because "Gail" has her writer buddies posting here that weighing in and being insulting will somehow help your career?Insinuating that calling you out on your shoddy business practices will result in the damaging of his career?

There's more intimidation attempts for you.

Chris N

01-28-2007, 03:14 PM

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 03:22 PM

I asked reasonable questions and received reasonable responses on his blog (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=222638691&MyToken=ce57e985-9c83-4c99-bb7e-36a204e4b119)

You asked reasonable questions and got dodgy answers.

Much like most of us have done here.

Karl J. Barnes

01-28-2007, 03:23 PM

I asked reasonable questions and received reasonable responses on his blog (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=222638691&MyToken=ce57e985-9c83-4c99-bb7e-36a204e4b119)

Sorry C&C, but just because, he isn't frothing at the mouth doesn't make what he says as reasonable. Those "answers" that you received on his blog are the same twaddle that he has been spewing on this thread.

EdContradictory

01-28-2007, 03:24 PM

I voted he'd be back by Wednesday

Sarah Beach

01-28-2007, 03:30 PM

C&C, when you asked him if he threatened to sue Mark Waid for offering to foot legal bills, look again at his answer.

First he's all "I never used the word 'sue'!" He then goes on to talk around the direct term with "just said it could leave him open to legal action." It's such a humbug.

But I commend you for the attempt.

EdContradictory

01-28-2007, 03:32 PM

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2767/ro1qt8.jpg

Karl J. Barnes

01-28-2007, 03:37 PM

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2767/ro1qt8.jpg

Maybe Rick could pay off his creditors with "Onley" Dollars?? One "Onley" dollar is equal to.000001 American, right?

Jack Zodiac

01-28-2007, 03:39 PM

"Likewise with all due respect, we can discuss the date and details on your payment after you've removed your posts on that message thread on CBR, and any likewise such expressives, and post an apology. Otherwise, I still intend on making as much of a legal matter where you're concerned as necessary. See... you can get paid, and I can obviously clear the matter of anyone awaiting payment still on the Tales of The Spooky #1 book... but I can't retract your words or clear up what you said. You've demeaned and libeled me. And Val, I am told by my attorney that that has taken place.
Ball to move forward is in your court, sir."

How in fuck's sake is that a reasonable answer?

Karl J. Barnes

01-28-2007, 03:41 PM

How in fuck's sake is that a reasonable answer?

Plus all the bad grammar and the messed up cliche`...

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 03:52 PM

Maybe Rick could pay off his creditors with "Onley" Dollars?? One "Onley" dollar is equal to.000001 American, right?
You mean "Olney".

Rick Onley is a different person and wouldn't be very happy to be associated with Dick. ;)

~Bev

Karl J. Barnes

01-28-2007, 03:57 PM

You mean "Olney".

Rick Onley is a different person and wouldn't be very happy to be associated with Dick. ;)

~Bev

Ooops. Would it help , if I said that I had name dyslexia??

J. Morgan (Bat) Neal

01-28-2007, 04:00 PM

I actually remember this movie...it's fun! I was thinking you were talking about a comic.

:)

Gail

No Ma'am but that would be a cool movie to adapt for comics indeed.

Speaking of comics I would like to send you a copy of Aym Geronimo and the PostModern Pioneers: Trickster if at all possible. Is that copasetic?

JamesRitcheyIII

01-28-2007, 04:05 PM

Misty & I had around two dozen novels in print before Misty made the leap to full time writer. It took a glowing cover quote from Stephen King to back it up, too.

This is a world where things not only can go wrong, they can go colossally wrong. It takes much more than optimism to make it as a pro (and optimism is a vital element, don't get me wrong), it takes savvy, smarts, and most importantly, stability.

As I've said a gazillion times on panels & such, pros are very seldom hired for their talent. Talented people are very easy to come by. Pros get hired because of their reliability. Art directors and editors can find flakes who can produce beautiful work once or twice, everywhere. Easy. Finding people who can do consistently good work and are reliable enough to entrust your whole project's well-being to? That's tougher.

Similarly, well, as we've seen, gigs fall apart, or don't pay, or some other awful things happen. "Keep the day job" does NOT mean you can't/won't make it in the creative field you love. It just means you're smart enough to build a wide, steady foundation for that pyramid of yours.

Just my two cents (in the bank and drawing interest)

Larry, I have nothing but the utmost respect for you as an author and creator, but I've got to take issue with this just a little bit. Most of the illustrators of comic books that I've met have dealt more with THIS behavior--that is very wonderfully parodied by Doug Holverton, in this piece.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m231/jamesritcheyiii/conjob.gif

If I do ever find an Editor and/or Art Director for a major company with Magical Competency Detection Powers, I'm a shoe-in. In the meantime, I'm stuck with pouring my soul into what I do, and being perceived as unreliable, because I follow my heart stylistically as a writer/artist, and consider this an art form, THEN a business. Doesn't affect my output. Who knows--even though I'm Mr. 'Johnny-on-the-proverbial-spot' as a commercial artist and animator, twice having missed deadlines for commissions--by a whole 24 hours. Maybe I just suck and am ill-suited for the comic book field, and would fail miserably. Maybe I'm overreacting, due to having been labeled unreliable once by an Olney-esque individual in the Atlanta animation scene, and as a result I was effectively blacklisted for close to five years--until he later scapegoated other peers in the same manner as myself. Anyway, this ain't aimed at you, it's aimed at a misapprehension that I feel you hold--that many share, and I wanted to offer a different perspective.

Chris N

01-28-2007, 04:06 PM

I should probably clarify, I meant "reasonable" as him stating clearly his point of view.

From his point of view, you are allowed to make your own character judgments.

I know I've made mine.

But it was nice to hear him defend himself.

I never said 'sue'. But there may be some legal action...

She just needs to sign this 'hold harmless'. Once she promises not to sue me, I'll pay her. Then sue her for defamation!

Samuel Catalino

01-28-2007, 04:32 PM

Sounds like a George Harrison tune.

Sue Me Sue You Blues.

Magneto_X

01-28-2007, 04:33 PM

Lance, I'm finally getting down to reading this page. Did you really want me to get personal about your wife and life. Is this what this thread is all about with personal attacks?

Difference with Lance (unless he says otherwise) is that his wife isn't in a business with him, like your's is.

That makes his "life" and wife personally, not professional.

Not that you'd actually know the differences are to begin with.

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 04:41 PM

Is that English?

How did this weirdo ever get the idea he could write?

Seriously, it's horrifying!

Gail
I'm ESL. As an anglo, what's his excuse?

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 05:00 PM

No Ma'am but that would be a cool movie to adapt for comics indeed.

Speaking of comics I would like to send you a copy of Aym Geronimo and the PostModern Pioneers: Trickster if at all possible. Is that copasetic?

Sure! My email is gailcbr@yahoo.com if you'd like to cross paths, okay?

Best,

Gail

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 05:15 PM

Hey, Danny.

I'm very sorry about your loss and the tragedy you had to live through. It's a lot easier for me to feel bad for you than it is to come up with a modicum of sympathy for someone who loses someone at just the right time to excuse themselves for any fault in a failed convention. While I did not have to experience someone wasting away, my father passed suddenly while teaching a seminar in California, far away from the state we lived in. It's a horrible thing to feel helpless, and that kind of loss can cripple someone. You have every right to your bitterness toward Rick. I'm glad, however, that that bitterness doesn't rule your life as you continue to work in the biz.

ZIVIO

Thank you Korben! I am sorry for your loss as well. While I have some bitterness over the treatment, but I have seen first hand what it does to people who let it rule thier life so I refuse to let it be the main force in my life. :)

And he is still online.
1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Did you pay them for their last appearance?

They never appeared. The show they were at was canceled so I doubt Rick believed he still owed a "kill fee" for their apperance.

Countersuit? Kiss my ass, youd have a have a real lawyer first. I truly feel sorry for you Rick... karma is about to deal you something awful, I just hope I am there to see it and point and laugh.

Ha! Let him countersue. That just means you'll get more money when the judge penalizes him for wasting the court's time and offers you peunative damages.

And yea I guess I have a touch too much.... but too much what?

That's for you to know and Rick to find out. :p

Maybe I'm overreacting, due to having been labeled unreliable once by an Olney-esque individual in the Atlanta animation scene, and as a result I was effectively blacklisted for close to five years--until he later scapegoated other peers in the same manner as myself. Anyway, this ain't aimed at you, it's aimed at a misapprehension that I feel you hold--that many share, and I wanted to offer a different perspective.

Jim you're gonna get sued for that signature!...

I'm noy upset at all, Danny. JT was actually too slow in turning out actual pages, and was replaced for that reason after the new creative director made a few suggestions that he wanted to see implimented. Great artist, but very slow. ..or at least unable to be consistent. Not a critical point, just my opinion.

Yeah, I heard that about him. Unable to keep his promises, can't produce anything in a timely fashion... no wait, that's you I'm thinking of.

Now Jim may not be the fastest artist in the west, but he's damn good. You put a deadline in front of him and I know for a fact he'll break his damn wrist to make it. The reason, Rick, is because Jim is DETAILED. Look at his Wraith pages, look at his cityscapes. That's not 20 minutes at a drafting table. That's hours of references, layout design, etc.

despite your insistance that we are in the "hobby" of comics, we are in fact in the business of comics. We work long, hard hours and support ourselves and families based on the work we do for others.

Being replaced does not excuse you from not paying him. He did work. If it's used or not, it's a service that was provided that you owe.

DarrenCawsey

01-28-2007, 05:20 PM

In other news, Marvel Comics today announced that they were considering adopting the "We won't pay you if you don't like us enough" accounting system.

The ghost of Jack Kirby was heard to comment, "This is new...?"

kdb

Sorry, I'm trying to catch up after having a long weekend off and I know this is a couple of days old now, but I just had to say that Kurt is awesome. :D

---------------------

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 05:28 PM

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They never appeared. The show they were at was canceled so I doubt Rick believed he still owed a "kill fee" for their apperance.

Actually, I talked with some of them, and he DOES owe money.

I wanted to see him try to weasel his way out of it like he did his threats to Michael.

Koben Kelly

01-28-2007, 05:29 PM

Thank you Korben!

No big deal...

but it's Koben. K-O-B-E-N. Just for future reference.:)

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 05:38 PM

I'm ESL. As an anglo, what's his excuse?

Cool! May I ask what your first language is?

Gail

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 05:39 PM

Cool! May I ask what your first language is?

Gail

A name like "Reverend Smooth"? I am gonna go with "Funk".

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 05:43 PM

Cool! May I ask what your first language is?

Gail
A name like "Reverend Smooth"? I am gonna go with "Funk".

French. They start with the same letter, hey?

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 05:45 PM

French. They start with the same letter, hey?

I prefer "Funk" to French, but that's cool too.

;)

Jonah Weiland

01-28-2007, 05:46 PM

I've avoided jumping into this thread since it began basically because I have no personal beef with Rick and didn't really have anything to say. Until now.

Someone brought to my attention this post by Rick made in 2003 (http://smallpresscomics.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000138). In it, he says:

My friend, Jonah Weiland created Freecomicbooks.com after trading emails with me.

Let's be perfectly clear here -- I've never been friends with Rick. The only time we ever traded any e-mails was regarding advertising pricing for his 2006 convention that never happened. In fact, an invoice was sent to him, but I never received payment nor was I told the show was cancelled. No big deal at all since no ads ran -- I wasn't "screwed" out of any money -- but that's the only contact we've ever had. As far as I can recall, I've never had any direct contact with him outside of those e-mails.

As for FreeComicBooks, under no circumstances did Rick have ANYTHING to do with that Web site. The site began in late 1999/early 2000 as a monthly contest site and ran for two or three years (basically until CBR became busy enough that I couldn't focus on FreeComics.com anymore). FreeComics.com was a site I conceived and worked on on my own, with the help of one programmer who designed the contest entry form and a lawyer who set-up the rules for the site. I did all the sales, design and maintenance myself. At no point was Rick Olney involved in any sort of discussion regarding that Web site.

I'm one who always gives credit where it's due. In this case, there's absolutely no credit to be given and I really hate it when someone takes credit for something I did, no matter how small it is.

It's just so insane, it's almost funny.

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 05:50 PM

I've avoided jumping into this thread since it began basically because I have no personal beef with Rick and didn't really have anything to say. Until now.

Someone brought to my attention this post by Rick made in 2003 (http://smallpresscomics.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000138). In it, he says:

Let's be perfectly clear here -- I've never been friends with Rick. The only time we ever traded any e-mails was regarding advertising pricing for his 2006 convention that never happened. In fact, an invoice was sent to him, but I never received payment nor was I told the show was cancelled. No big deal at all since no ads ran -- I wasn't "screwed" out of any money -- but that's the only contact we've ever had. As far as I can recall, I've never had any direct contact with him outside of those e-mails.

As for FreeComicBooks, under no circumstances did Rick have ANYTHING to do with that Web site. The site began in late 1999/early 2000 as a monthly contest site and ran for two or three years (basically until CBR became busy enough that I couldn't focus on FreeComics.com anymore). FreeComics.com was a site I conceived and worked on on my own, with the help of one programmer who designed the contest entry form and a lawyer who set-up the rules for the site. I did all the sales, design and maintenance myself. At no point was Rick Olney involved in any sort of discussion regarding that Web site.

I'm one who always gives credit where it's due. In this case, there's absolutely no credit to be given and I really hate it when someone takes credit for something I did, no matter how small it is.

It's just so insane, it's almost funny.

Hey Rick! Is that you in front of Jonah?

http://gonzo.uni-weimar.de/~gleisber/Grafik/Foren/owned/owned07.jpg

J. Morgan (Bat) Neal

01-28-2007, 05:52 PM

Sure! My email is gailcbr@yahoo.com if you'd like to cross paths, okay?

Best,

Gail

Email sent Madame Simone.

Oh...and...

Pay everyone you owe, Olney!

Don't want to be off topic entirely. ;)

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 05:52 PM

Actually, I talked with some of them, and he DOES owe money.

I wanted to see him try to weasel his way out of it like he did his threats to Michael.

Well I know he'd owe Brian for the story he did for TOTS. But I was being sarcastic. My meaning was due to the fact they never appeared in Rick's warped logic that means a.) they still like him and b.) he doesn't have to give them anything.

Also considering Brian is still on his myspace list it means they forgive him. ;)

No big deal...

but it's Koben. K-O-B-E-N. Just for future reference.:)

My apologies! I just woke up after being horribly ill all day. (if anyone wonders, if you forgot when you bought the thing in your fridge, the ideal thought is "better be safe than sorry" instead of "what's the worst that can happen")

:)

Oh and for anyone that is interested the story has been picked up by the SBC

http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/news/story.php?

So.... one more peg...

JamesRitcheyIII

01-28-2007, 05:54 PM

Uh oh...Jonah just got added to Rick's list, for his Imaginary Attorney.

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 05:54 PM

I prefer "Funk" to French, but that's cool too.

;)
:cool: A pimp name generator spat this out several years ago. I was all, like, 'It knows!' And have used it ever since.

Hey Rick! Is that you laying down on the ground there?[/IMG]
Not just PWNED.

AL CAPWNED.

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 06:01 PM

I doubt any member of Rick's family died. Or if they did it was a "lucky" coincidence.

Honestly, I don't want to go there. I'm sure he had the family tragedies he's mentioned, and I don't want to add to that grief at all. Even though he has no sympathy for anyone else, ever, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be human in this regard, I think. So please, no comments about deceased relatives, okay?

Gail

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 06:01 PM

Well I know he'd owe Brian for the story he did for TOTS. But I was being sarcastic. My meaning was due to the fact they never appeared in Rick's warped logic that means a.) they still like him and b.) he doesn't have to give them anything.

Also considering Brian is still on his myspace list it means they forgive him. ;)

Actually, I am pretty sure Brian wants fuck-all to do with him.

Trust me on this.

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 06:01 PM

I've avoided jumping into this thread since it began basically because I have no personal beef with Rick and didn't really have anything to say. Until now.

Someone brought to my attention this post by Rick made in 2003 (http://smallpresscomics.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000138). In it, he says:

Let's be perfectly clear here -- I've never been friends with Rick. The only time we ever traded any e-mails was regarding advertising pricing for his 2006 convention that never happened. In fact, an invoice was sent to him, but I never received payment nor was I told the show was cancelled. No big deal at all since no ads ran -- I wasn't "screwed" out of any money -- but that's the only contact we've ever had. As far as I can recall, I've never had any direct contact with him outside of those e-mails.

As for FreeComicBooks, under no circumstances did Rick have ANYTHING to do with that Web site. The site began in late 1999/early 2000 as a monthly contest site and ran for two or three years (basically until CBR became busy enough that I couldn't focus on FreeComics.com anymore). FreeComics.com was a site I conceived and worked on on my own, with the help of one programmer who designed the contest entry form and a lawyer who set-up the rules for the site. I did all the sales, design and maintenance myself. At no point was Rick Olney involved in any sort of discussion regarding that Web site.

I'm one who always gives credit where it's due. In this case, there's absolutely no credit to be given and I really hate it when someone takes credit for something I did, no matter how small it is.

It's just so insane, it's almost funny.
I ♥ Jonah!

Best. Boss. Ever.

~Bev

Blake Petit

01-28-2007, 06:03 PM

Oh and for anyone that is interested the story has been picked up by the SBC

http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/news/story.php?

So.... one more peg...

Um... where should I be looking for the story, Danny?

Typo Lad

01-28-2007, 06:04 PM

I have been having some fun e-mails with Steve Nopperberg. The contents of which are mostly private. he did, however, ask me to note this:

Please tell Rick to be nice. I still have copies of Potlatch to benefit ORCA, I have not re-coup my printing cost on those yet.

If anyone might be interested in purchasing issues to let Steve off the hook fiscally, let me know. He's a good guy.

EdContradictory

01-28-2007, 06:05 PM

Not just PWNED.

AL CAPWNED.

Andy Cappwned?

http://www.frifagbevegelse.no/multimedia/archive/00746/AndyCapp_ball_746270h.jpg

THEDOC

01-28-2007, 06:06 PM

Difference with Lance (unless he says otherwise) is that his wife isn't in a business with him, like your's is.

That makes his "life" and wife personally, not professional.

Not that you'd actually know the differences are to begin with.

No, my wife isn't in the business end IF, just very supportive and loves going to the cons with me. As I said she is the muse of IF. She was rather shocked at what Rick said though.
Thanks Magneto_X

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 06:07 PM

I've avoided jumping into this thread since it began basically because I have no personal beef with Rick and didn't really have anything to say. Until now.

Someone brought to my attention this post by Rick made in 2003 (http://smallpresscomics.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000138). In it, he says:

Let's be perfectly clear here -- I've never been friends with Rick. The only time we ever traded any e-mails was regarding advertising pricing for his 2006 convention that never happened. In fact, an invoice was sent to him, but I never received payment nor was I told the show was cancelled. No big deal at all since no ads ran -- I wasn't "screwed" out of any money -- but that's the only contact we've ever had. As far as I can recall, I've never had any direct contact with him outside of those e-mails.

As for FreeComicBooks, under no circumstances did Rick have ANYTHING to do with that Web site. The site began in late 1999/early 2000 as a monthly contest site and ran for two or three years (basically until CBR became busy enough that I couldn't focus on FreeComics.com anymore). FreeComics.com was a site I conceived and worked on on my own, with the help of one programmer who designed the contest entry form and a lawyer who set-up the rules for the site. I did all the sales, design and maintenance myself. At no point was Rick Olney involved in any sort of discussion regarding that Web site.

I'm one who always gives credit where it's due. In this case, there's absolutely no credit to be given and I really hate it when someone takes credit for something I did, no matter how small it is.

It's just so insane, it's almost funny.

it is insane, because as we all know all of CBR was created by ME!!!!

After a fever dream based on random cafine driven delusions. Jonah owes all of his success to ME! ME! ME!

bwahahahahahahahaha! I'll sue anyone that says different!

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 06:08 PM

Um... where should I be looking for the story, Danny?

here is a direct link

http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/news/story.php?a=3704

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 06:09 PM

Andy Cappwned?

http://www.frifagbevegelse.no/multimedia/archive/00746/AndyCapp_ball_746270h.jpgI'm surprised that his head didn't get photoshopped over the soccer ball. ^^

Blake Petit

01-28-2007, 06:10 PM

Ah. Thank ye, good sir.

Jack Zodiac

01-28-2007, 06:14 PM

And Olney hath been smote by the smotiest of smoters.

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 06:15 PM

here is a direct link

http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/news/story.php?a=3704*reads*

It's cool that reputable and honorable people and companies were named, too.

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 06:19 PM

Um... where should I be looking for the story, Danny?

http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/news/story.php?a=3802

hmm for some reason the link got cut in my initial reply. :)

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 06:21 PM

here is a direct link

http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/news/story.php?a=3704

Different story Matt! :)

Darediva

01-28-2007, 06:23 PM

Would that be the white sock or the argyle one ?

That was a good spit-take for me. Got me thinking about what a sockpuppet might really look like. Good 'un, cam.

MacQuarrie

01-28-2007, 06:24 PM

Wow... I don't have any memory of an Eddie Mitchell without looking back for his old reader survey, so I can't comment on his experience. I guess for some it was a good experience and others just so-so. Nothing is perfect in life. I suspect that because he didn't renew his membership ... he didn't get newsletters. Sure enough we cranked out enough of them. I was mailing issues to large numbers of people -- both inside industry and fans -- and we reached out to a number of people that way to help them build their collections or allow them to get issues that they couldn't afford. Too bad a bunch of those people still in fandom don't blog about their Rick Olney story. Ahhh... but I doubt those stories would see mention in this thread. :rolleyes:

How come you still have his old reader survey, but you manage to lose contact information for everyone you owe money to?

Maybe you weren't paying attention: Eddie didn't remew his membership BECAUSE he didn't get newsletters... or anything else except occasional angry and incoherent screeds from you.

You really are a loon.

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 06:27 PM

How come you still have his old reader survey, but you manage to lose contact information for everyone you owe money to?

Maybe you weren't paying attention: Eddie didn't remew his membership BECAUSE he didn't get newsletters... or anything else except occasional angry and incoherent screeds from you.

You really are a loon.

Amazing how he misses the salient points of Eddie's story.

He sees everything in "Olney Vision"

"Those are scent lines. They are talent markers emanating from me!"

MacQuarrie

01-28-2007, 06:32 PM

Wow... I don't have any memory of an Eddie Mitchell without looking back for his old reader survey, so I can't comment on his experience. I guess for some it was a good experience and others just so-so. Nothing is perfect in life. I suspect that because he didn't renew his membership ... he didn't get newsletters. Sure enough we cranked out enough of them. I was mailing issues to large numbers of people -- both inside industry and fans -- and we reached out to a number of people that way to help them build their collections or allow them to get issues that they couldn't afford. Too bad a bunch of those people still in fandom don't blog about their Rick Olney story. Ahhh... but I doubt those stories would see mention in this thread. :rolleyes:
We've been BEGGING you to find one person anywhere on the planet with anything good to say about you. point us to their stories and we will not only mention them in this thread, we will shout them from the rooftops.

Please please please, PM any of us with contact information for anyone who can say anything good about you.

MacQuarrie

01-28-2007, 06:37 PM

I'm one who always gives credit where it's due. In this case, there's absolutely no credit to be given and I really hate it when someone takes credit for something I did, no matter how small it is.

This is true.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/misc/credits/

I haven't contributed anything to the design or graphics of CBR in at least five years, and yet, there I am, still listed in the site credits.

Jonah's good people.

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 06:41 PM

The classic Olney attempt to leech stature and significance off of people more inventive than himself continues.

Gail

Magneto_X

01-28-2007, 06:44 PM

JTPencils

01-28-2007, 06:49 PM

And, I am a big deal. You've MADE me a big deal. Thank you. ;)

In the same way that Captain E.J. Smith was a big deal, Kenneth Lay, and now Rick.

All big deals, but for OH so many wrong reasons. If he thinks being reviled by nearly anyone even remotely connected within this industry (which he obviously views as a hobby), is a good thing... then he's even dumber then I first surmised... and that just boggles the mind!

Magneto_X

01-28-2007, 06:50 PM

No, my wife isn't in the business end IF, just very supportive and loves going to the cons with me. As I said she is the muse of IF. She was rather shocked at what Rick said though.
Thanks Magneto_X

No prob.

Although I haven't known you (posting here) long you do seem like a nice person. Professional, as well.

While I may not be in the industry, yet, and haven't been financially disrupted (is that the right word?) by "Rick" I just wanted to do my bit.

He just pisses me off when he deliberately gets other people (whether comic pros like yourself or "civilians") with his insults.

Not that you guys need my help in that regard.

JamesRitcheyIII

01-28-2007, 06:57 PM

We've been BEGGING you to find one person anywhere on the planet with anything good to say about you. point us to their stories and we will not only mention them in this thread, we will shout them from the rooftops.

Please please please, PM any of us with contact information for anyone who can say anything good about you.

Let ME try!

His leadership left humanity with The Autobahn and The Volkswagen.

OH.

Wait--!

That was Hitler.

Nope...sorry--drawing a blank.

JTPencils

01-28-2007, 07:06 PM

What kind of salary is that new creative director pulling in?

Same as the rest of us Ed. Nada.

All I know, is that the previous CD, was told that because of having to replace him, that the cost of the new guy, was what was prohibiting nutjob from paying anyone currently involved with the project (from CD on down... both books).

To be honest, I'm not sure what the exact parameter's were for his compensation. And even if I did know, I wouldn't say here... I just don't like to discuss other folks money issues (even if I DID know them... that's their business). But I don't mind at all discussing my own financial failings brought on by loony boy.

JTPencils

01-28-2007, 07:09 PM

Certified check.

Doc, from him, it would be more like a "certifiable" check.

Momma Absurd

01-28-2007, 07:12 PM

Hello all,

I just came in to reply to Mr. Onery's blathering idiotic murmurings. I am rather surprised someone let the cords on his straight-jacket loose so the fool could scamper back on all fours to the key board and type. Apparently his keeper must have taken a piss break and fell in, and he took advantage of it.

1). Mr Onery I am quite aware that you haven't a clue as to how a real attorney works, and since yours is a figment of your withered imagination, I would be more than happy to let you know what mine is doing in your case. HOWEVER, I think waiting till EVERYONE signs the allegations that are being drawn up against you at this time for the various crimes you have committed such as fraud, and personal bodily threats against people via the internet, it should wait.

2.) I would have told you everything but you wouldn't sign my N.D.A. and as you know unless you sign it I don't have to PAY attention to your anal attempts at humanism.

3.) As far as Doc's ass is concerned, I would tell you to kiss it, but he doesn't like to go slumming. It's not a good look for him...

Can't wait to see you on the stand. I am so looking forward to it. I promise you will have all the publicity you can take as I fully intend to bring in every reporter, news crew, and tabloid monster I can find to make sure this goes as far as I can push it.

Momma "N.D.A. 's by Olney WTF" Absurd

P.S. If your wife can sew see if she can make you a striped suit, try it on and get used to the look. :rolleyes:

THEDOC

01-28-2007, 07:16 PM

No prob.

Although I haven't known you (posting here) long you do seem like a nice person. Professional, as well.

While I may not be in the industry, yet, and haven't been financially disrupted (is that the right word?) by "Rick" I just wanted to do my bit.

He just pisses me off when he deliberately gets other people (whether comic pros like yourself or "civilians") with his insults.

Not that you guys need my help in that regard.

Oh Rick is a blowhard M_X I just want to see what he says about my wife and life.

JTPencils

01-28-2007, 07:31 PM

1). Mr Onery I am quite aware that you haven't a clue as to how a real attorney works, and since yours is a figment of your withered imagination, I would be more than happy to let you know what mine is doing in your case. HOWEVER, I think waiting till EVERYONE signs the allegations that are being drawn up against you at this time for the various crimes you have committed such as fraud, and personal bodily threats against people via the internet, it should wait.

Ummm... where do I sign Momma?

JTPencils

01-28-2007, 07:34 PM

Now Jim may not be the fastest artist in the west, but he's damn good. You put a deadline in front of him and I know for a fact he'll break his damn wrist to make it. The reason, Rick, is because Jim is DETAILED. Look at his Wraith pages, look at his cityscapes. That's not 20 minutes at a drafting table. That's hours of references, layout design, etc.

Shucks folks, I'm speechless! Thanks Danny.

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 07:37 PM

Ummm... where do I sign Momma?

mail me a copy to sign and tell me where to send it back. ^_^

Sarah Beach

01-28-2007, 07:41 PM

Joshua Pantalleresco

01-28-2007, 07:45 PM

French. They start with the same letter, hey?

Bonjour mon ami. Comment Ca va?

JP

Momma Absurd

01-28-2007, 07:46 PM

Uh, Momma? I think most prison issue these days are orange sailcloth jumpsuits, not the old striped ones.

And really, the thought of the peanut in a jumpsuit..... not really an image I want to dwell on (no matter how satisfying the circs would be). Just sayin'. ;)

Not enough orange in the world to cover his ass. I personally want to see him in one of the black and white striped suits. I like those better.....a jackass wearing zebra skin...gotta love it! *smiles knowingly*

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 07:47 PM

I don't know about you guys, but in my opinion, if Batman and Momma Absurd had a fight...

...she'd kick that playboy's ass.

Gail

bert

01-28-2007, 07:51 PM

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 08:00 PM

Bonjour mon ami. Comment Ca va?

JPCa va tres bien.

...Meme si j'ai une migraine. Ca suce, les migraines, pis ca m'empeche de travailler sur ces maudites textures 3D.

Toi? XD

Matt Doc Martin

01-28-2007, 08:03 PM

Bonjour mon ami. Comment Ca va?

JP

"Pantalleresco" speaks french?

Makes sense in a world where Olney claimed to be a check-writer.

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 08:08 PM

"Pantalleresco" speaks french?

Makes sense in a world where Olney claimed to be a check-writer.I wonder what other surprising skills that the members here possess? :3

Corrina

01-28-2007, 08:12 PM

Kurt Busiek

01-28-2007, 08:12 PM

You are forgetting who you are dealing with. There are some people who seem to not be capable of rational thought.

Would these be the kind of people who say that they can't comment on someone's bad experience with OKRA because they have no memory of the guy, and less than half an hour later are claiming they know which issues of ASTRO CITY the guy was missing?

Apparently, it was so easy to dig up information that he was able to find out within twenty-one minutes what he'd sent and why to a guy he had no memory of, all while catching up on multiple pages of posts and posting responses -- but it was simultaneously too difficult to find information about the guy when responding twenty-one minutes earlier.

And he wonders what Gail will say about calling him a liar and a cheat after he's paid all these people. Even if it happened, he'd still have been a liar and a cheat, though I'm sure we'd all be delighted that he finally made restitution for his heinously-overdue debts.

Not that he's going to do it without being forced to, of course.

kdb

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 08:13 PM

I wonder what other surprising skills that the members here possess? :3
I'm not telling what mine are...

~Bev

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 08:13 PM

Well, he speaks high school level French.

Ou est la stylo? Il est sur la table.

Huh. That's probably wrong. I'm just too damn old to remember my high school French. But I think the Reverand said he's very good, something French, migraines, and something French.
The reverend is very good, but she also has a migraine, which is making it very hard to work on those damn 3d textures (because migraines suck). And how is Pantalleresco?

I'm not telling what mine are...

~BevX:

Kurt Busiek

01-28-2007, 08:15 PM

can someone tell me what fruit-of-the-room level is?

It's when you can stink up a whole room at once?

kdb

KevinTBrown

01-28-2007, 08:20 PM

I'm not telling what mine are...

~Bev

This is where the "20 questions" game comes in handy.... ;)

JTPencils

01-28-2007, 08:24 PM

I wonder what other surprising skills that the members here possess? :3

I practice an ages old variation on a magic trick... ventriloquism. Yeah, I know... I just went from geek, to ultra uber geek. But... it's still fun fooling people!! (and it's my regular job... so... I'm happy with it).

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 08:25 PM

This is where the "20 questions" game comes in handy.... ;)
Maybe... But, then again, who says I would tell you if you got it right? ;)

~Bev

Kurt Busiek

01-28-2007, 08:28 PM

And Rick, sorry, I'm actually IN the industry. You met Stan Lee at a party? I'm friends with the heads of nearly every major company in the industry.

I first met Stan Lee, as it happens, in the men's underwear section of the department store that used to be in Horton Plaza, in the late Eighties. We'd both underpacked for the San Diego Con.

Since then, I've had lunch with him, worked for him, had him call me on the phone and tell me I'm a genius...but that first meeting is always gonna stick with me the most.

kdb

Kurt Busiek

01-28-2007, 08:31 PM

And that Kurt Busiek is jealous of his success

And, apparently, is older than he is, given that Gail, Mark, Scott and I are keeping them younger talents out of the biz...

kdb

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 08:31 PM

I practice an ages old variation on a magic trick... ventriloquism. Yeah, I know... I just went from geek, to ultra uber geek. No, dude, that's awesome.

J. Morgan (Bat) Neal

01-28-2007, 08:41 PM

Not enough orange in the world to cover his ass. I personally want to see him in one of the black and white striped suits. I like those better.....a jackass wearing zebra skin...gotta love it! *smiles knowingly*

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w259/psychotronic01/orcajailbird.jpg

For you Momma Absurd.

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 08:43 PM

And, apparently, is older than he is, given that Gail, Mark, Scott and I are keeping them younger talents out of the biz...

kdb

I often wonder what THE single most absurd moment with Rick's Parade of Delusions is, and I think I have to go with the idea that he thinks people are jealous of him. For the love of God, what enviable quality does he have? He's an utter disgrace, with no talent of any kind. And he don't smell none too fresh.

There are lepers on their deathbed this very moment saying, "Jeez, at least I'm not Rick Olney."

Gail

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 08:44 PM

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w259/psychotronic01/orcajailbird.jpg

For you Momma Absurd.
I'm not Momma Absurd, but...

Ooooh! Dart board cover!

Thanks! :D

~Bev

DaveRothe

01-28-2007, 08:50 PM

I can't stop laughing at that pic! Bwahahahahaha!!!

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 08:51 PM

I first met Stan Lee, as it happens, in the men's underwear section of the department store that used to be in Horton Plaza, in the late Eighties. We'd both underpacked for the San Diego Con.

Since then, I've had lunch with him, worked for him, had him call me on the phone and tell me I'm a genius...but that first meeting is always gonna stick with me the most.

kdb

oooh are we telling Stan Lee stories? :p At the only SDCCI show I ever attended back in '03, Stan was there, I think he might of been one of the guests of honor that year, I remember he had a big signing thing at around 4 or 4:30, but members of my team had a meeting with some bigwigs that afternoon (the aforementioned mystery machine tour) and I missed out. I spent the day hoping I'd find another meeting or panel he was or something.

No such luck, so at the end of the show Jim and I were sitting on the steps waiting for the others to come grab us (because as anyone that attended SDCCI knows close parking is not an option ;)) So we gaurded the bags while they brought the car around, and I see Stan walking to his hotel..

I run down and say "Stan, I'm sorry to bother you I know you're tired I was just hoping to meet you at this thing and shake your hand"

And he goes "Well now ya did True believer!"

For me, that was pretty awesome. I grew up hearing Stan's voice on the cartoons and seeing the little "stan's soapbox" thing in all my comics. It was cool getting to see him briefly. ;)

THEDOC

01-28-2007, 08:54 PM

oooh are we telling Stan Lee stories? :p At the only SDCCI show I ever attended back in '03, Stan was there, I think he might of been one of the guests of honor that year, I remember he had a big signing thing at around 4 or 4:30, but members of my team had a meeting with some bigwigs that afternoon (the aforementioned mystery machine tour) and I missed out. I spent the day hoping I'd find another meeting or panel he was or something.

No such luck, so at the end of the show Jim and I were sitting on the steps waiting for the others to come grab us (because as anyone that attended SDCCI knows close parking is not an option ;)) So we gaurded the bags while they brought the car around, and I see Stan walking to his hotel..

I run down and say "Stan, I'm sorry to bother you I know you're tired I was just hoping to meet you at this thing and shake your hand"

And he goes "Well now ya did True believer!"

For me, that was pretty awesome. I grew up hearing Stan's voice on the cartoons and seeing the little "stan's soapbox" thing in all my comics. It was cool getting to see him briefly. ;)

I got to talk to Stan for a bit when my friend Tim worked at Marvel Productions doing Defenders of the Earth. I got to sit at one of their meetings. Nice guy. Liked talking to Jack better.

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 08:56 PM

I can't stop laughing at that pic! Bwahahahahaha!!!
I think they need to make a "Pin the Tail on the Jackass" game next!

~Bev

Blake Petit

01-28-2007, 08:56 PM

I, uh... I bought that DVD where Kevin Smith interviewed Stan Lee.

That doesn't count, does it?

DaveRothe

01-28-2007, 09:04 PM

My chain to my desk doesn't extend much beyond the front door. I hear there's an oustide world and a Stan Lee in it but I didn't know if they were true or not.

TomStillwell

01-28-2007, 09:11 PM

My chain to my desk doesn't extend much beyond the front door. I hear there's an oustide world and a Stan Lee in it but I didn't know if they were true or not.

Back to work you! Them pages ain't gonna letter themselves!!!

DaveRothe

01-28-2007, 09:15 PM

Did anyone else hear that whip-cracking sound? Ok I'm goin! I'm goin!!!

TomStillwell

01-28-2007, 09:16 PM

Did anyone else hear that whip-cracking sound? Ok I'm goin! I'm goin!!!

What's next? Expecting payment for work? Sheesh!!!

OzBat!

01-28-2007, 09:16 PM

I've avoided jumping into this thread since it began basically because I have no personal beef with Rick and didn't really have anything to say. Until now.

Someone brought to my attention this post by Rick made in 2003 (http://smallpresscomics.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000138). In it, he says:My friend, Jonah Weiland created Freecomicbooks.com after trading emails with me.Let's be perfectly clear here -- I've never been friends with Rick. The only time we ever traded any e-mails was regarding advertising pricing for his 2006 convention that never happened. In fact, an invoice was sent to him, but I never received payment nor was I told the show was cancelled. No big deal at all since no ads ran -- I wasn't "screwed" out of any money -- but that's the only contact we've ever had. As far as I can recall, I've never had any direct contact with him outside of those e-mails.

As for FreeComicBooks, under no circumstances did Rick have ANYTHING to do with that Web site. The site began in late 1999/early 2000 as a monthly contest site and ran for two or three years (basically until CBR became busy enough that I couldn't focus on FreeComics.com anymore). FreeComics.com was a site I conceived and worked on on my own, with the help of one programmer who designed the contest entry form and a lawyer who set-up the rules for the site. I did all the sales, design and maintenance myself. At no point was Rick Olney involved in any sort of discussion regarding that Web site.

I'm one who always gives credit where it's due. In this case, there's absolutely no credit to be given and I really hate it when someone takes credit for something I did, no matter how small it is.

It's just so insane, it's almost funny.This is my boss.

HE ROCKS!

Thanks Jonah!

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 09:20 PM

I got to talk to Stan for a bit when my friend Tim worked at Marvel Productions doing Defenders of the Earth. I got to sit at one of their meetings. Nice guy. Liked talking to Jack better.

I wish I could have met Jack. He died when I was 14, always wished I could have gone to one con before I was younger.

MacQuarrie

01-28-2007, 09:26 PM

Uh, Momma? I think most prison issue these days are orange sailcloth jumpsuits, not the old striped ones.

And really, the thought of the peanut in a jumpsuit..... not really an image I want to dwell on (no matter how satisfying the circs would be). Just sayin'. ;)

It varies somewhat. In some places (LA county, for example), they have different colors for different prisoner categories. Orange is a run-of-the-mill inmate, but there are different color outfits for trustees, gang members, sex offenders and so on.

I have a red one here somewhere. A gift from my brother, who somehow managed to take it with him when he got out.

DaveRothe

01-28-2007, 09:29 PM

Yes Tom. I've heard stories of people actually getting paid to letter. Except in Rick's case they were just fictitious.

TCJohnson

01-28-2007, 09:38 PM

I often wonder what THE single most absurd moment with Rick's Parade of Delusions is, and I think I have to go with the idea that he thinks people are jealous of him. For the love of God, what enviable quality does he have? He's an utter disgrace, with no talent of any kind. And he don't smell none too fresh.

There are lepers on their deathbed this very moment saying, "Jeez, at least I'm not Rick Olney."

Gail

I was thinking the other day that you know, he really does guide the comic book industry.

"See that? Don't do that! NO! DON'T DO THAT! DO NOTHING LIKE OLNEY DOES! AT ALL! EVER!"

Do you think if we rub Olney's nose in some comic books and thwap him with a rolled up newspaper he will stop all this?

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 09:45 PM

I was thinking the other day that you know, he really does guide the comic book industry.

"See that? Don't do that! NO! DON'T DO THAT! DO NOTHING LIKE OLNEY DOES! AT ALL! EVER!"

Do you think if we rub Olney's nose in some comic books and thwap him with a rolled up newspaper he will stop all this?
Any thwapping with rolled up newspapers is MY job. :p

~Bev
Who always keeps a rolled up Sunday NY Times handy...

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 09:45 PM

I was thinking the other day that you know, he really does guide the comic book industry.

"See that? Don't do that! NO! DON'T DO THAT! DO NOTHING LIKE OLNEY DOES! AT ALL! EVER!"

Do you think if we rub Olney's nose in some comic books and thwap him with a rolled up newspaper he will stop all this?

He doesn't like being given advice. I learned that the hard way. :)

Sarah Beach

01-28-2007, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by Danny Donovan
No such luck, so at the end of the show Jim and I were sitting on the steps waiting for the others to come grab us (because as anyone that attended SDCCI knows close parking is not an option ) So we gaurded the bags while they brought the car around....

Well, you can park under the convention center.... if you get there by 7:15 a.m.

Yes, that actually has been my usual practice. Drive in, park at the convention center, sit in my car for two hours cat-napping, and then after nine, cruise on up to the Pro Lounge. Where free coffee, tables and chairs await one! (But you gotta have a "Pro" badge. ;) )

TCJohnson

01-28-2007, 09:48 PM

He doesn't like being given advice. I learned that the hard way. :)

No, I mean giving advice to others. When Gail Simone gives advice to up and coming creators, she can simply say, "Do do what Olney does!"

DaveRothe

01-28-2007, 09:51 PM

Well if ya did thwap him I'd have to wonder why you'd wanna ruin a perfectly good rolled up newspaper? LOL

TCJohnson

01-28-2007, 09:57 PM

Well if ya did thwap him I'd have to wonder why you'd wanna ruin a perfectly good rolled up newspaper? LOL

Eh, it's all good. It is the newspaper I took off of Old Man Waid's front pourch. With all the money he is making off of 52 he can afford it.

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 09:58 PM

Well, you can park under the convention center.... if you get there by 7:15 a.m.

Yes, that actually has been my usual practice. Drive in, park at the convention center, sit in my car for two hours cat-napping, and then after nine, cruise on up to the Pro Lounge. Where free coffee, tables and chairs await one! (But you gotta have a "Pro" badge. ;) )

I was never able to find this place. People told me it exisited, but my lack of direction never found it. :p Jim I believe made it there, but being a bastard that he is, never gave me adequete instructions. :p

Although, I have to admit my FAVORITE 'green room'/'pro lounge' is Dragon*Con. :)

No, I mean giving advice to others. When Gail Simone gives advice to up and coming creators, she can simply say, "Do do what Olney does!"

lol. Ooooh. ^_^; "Don't do what Olney done did." Say that 5 times fast.

JamesRitcheyIII

01-28-2007, 09:58 PM

He doesn't like being given advice. I learned that the hard way. :)

Now THAT is a good business model to start a Publishing concern--closely examine what Rick did--and do the polar opposite! :D

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 10:00 PM

Well if ya did thwap him I'd have to wonder why you'd wanna ruin a perfectly good rolled up newspaper? LOL
Hmmm... Okay, what if I use several copies of the New York Post rolled up together? ;)

~Bev

DaveRothe

01-28-2007, 10:04 PM

Make it a large truck full Papergirl and then let him have it! :)

MacQuarrie

01-28-2007, 10:04 PM

Give me proof that Gail Simone has lied about anything in this thread (other than her name is Gail Simone...) and I will leave these forums and never come back.
Point of order. Gail never lied about that. Working under a pseudonym is not lying, it's protecting one's privacy. It's also a well-established tradition going back hundreds of years.

A Brief History of the Pseudonym (http://www.compulsivereader.com/html/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1215)

And anyway, as it happens, "Gail" is really part of Gail's actual birth name. This is extremely common, there are many people who are known by their middle names.

People known by their middle name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_known_by_middle_name)

There's no lying going on around here, except for that one guy over there in Mohawk.

JamesRitcheyIII

01-28-2007, 10:07 PM

MacQuarrie

01-28-2007, 10:08 PM

I was never able to find this place. People told me it exisited, but my lack of direction never found it. :p Jim I believe made it there, but being a bastard that he is, never gave me adequete instructions. :p

If I remember correctly, it's room 10B or something in that neighborhood.

TCJohnson

01-28-2007, 10:09 PM

Point of order. Gail never lied about that. Working under a pseudonym is not lying, it's protecting one's privacy. It's also a well-established tradition going back hundreds of years.

Yes, I know, we have already been over that. One more fucking time, I was not not accusing Gail of lying. I was saying I could see how somebody could make an arguement that it was decietful, not that it was an arguement that I agreed with.

ONce again, I am NOT accusing Gail of being dishonest.

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 10:11 PM

Make it a large truck full Papergirl and then let him have it! :)
WOOT!

Wait... Can I hit him with the truck instead? ;)

~Bev

Sarah Beach

01-28-2007, 10:13 PM

Merde! That might have salvaged some sanity for we of 'The Mystery Machine' trekkers, by the end of it...I would have been taking cat-naps in between stints in the Artists' Alley...didn't catch up on sleep 'til I got back to Atlanta.

You'd be surprised at the number of people who do sit down there in their cars until it gets close to the hall opening! Last summer in particular, when it was so very ghastly hot. And if you have snacks in your car... what more do you want? It's better than sitting on the center floor waiting for the lines to move.

Anyway... sorry about the thread drift -- I've just been thinking "con attendance" this last week, planning my budget. And the first update for SDCCI arrived this last week.

Back on topic: alas, looks like I was wrong on my poll entry! I was so sure he'd reappear tonight. Ah well.

JamesRitcheyIII

01-28-2007, 10:23 PM

You'd be surprised at the number of people who do sit down there in their cars until it gets close to the hall opening! Last summer in particular, when it was so very ghastly hot. And if you have snacks in your car... what more do you want? It's better than sitting on the center floor waiting for the lines to move.

Anyway... sorry about the thread drift -- I've just been thinking "con attendance" this last week, planning my budget. And the first update for SDCCI arrived this last week.

Back on topic: alas, looks like I was wrong on my poll entry! I was so sure he'd reappear tonight. Ah well.

It should have been a betting pool--with OrcaBucksTM at stake!

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 10:29 PM

I really highly doubt he'll return.

I mean honestly, do you think he'd dig a bigger hole for himself?

Karl J. Barnes

01-28-2007, 10:31 PM

I really highly doubt he'll return.

I mean honestly, do you think he'd dig a bigger hole for himself?

This is a rhetorical question, right?

TCJohnson

01-28-2007, 10:31 PM

I really highly doubt he'll return.

I mean honestly, do you think he'd dig a bigger hole for himself?

I think there are China men asking each other, "Do you smell something?"

DaveRothe

01-28-2007, 10:32 PM

Go for it Papergirl!!!:)

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 10:33 PM

I really highly doubt he'll return.

I mean honestly, do you think he'd dig a bigger hole for himself?
You're joking, right?

~Bev

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 10:34 PM

Go for it Papergirl!!!:)
WOOT! I have official permission! :D

And, please, just call me Bev. Or Peeg. Either is shorter, and I actually DO answer to both in real life. ;)

~Bev

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 10:35 PM

Re: the pseudonym stuff:

I don't get what the pseudonym kerfuffle is, especially from people on the internets, where just about everyone goes by a pseudonym.

I don't use one, though for years I went by my middle name because I didn't want to hear my first name for a while. (Then I got tired of people mispronouncing it.)

It's standard in the art, writing, and entertainment industries, has been for centuries. Longer, even. If people want to be called by those names, sure, whatever. I'm happy to call people by whatever name they want.

Names are so arbitrary anyway. I never use them in conversation unless it's unavoidable, otherwise it sounds like a news interview.

'Well, John, I was just waxing my cat the other day. Yes, their flailing does make for nice grungy artwork, especially when... (blah bah pretentious stuff here).'
'Laughs. That's such a clever painting technique, Danielle, it offers such raw realism.'
'I know, John, is my ingenuity not magnificent?'
'Thanks, Danielle, for doing this interview.'
'No problem, John. Thank you.'

Of course, if he had a cool pseudonym, that might be moderately more entertaining.

'Well, Generalissimo Genghis Cornholio, I was just waxing my cat the other day...'

TCJohnson

01-28-2007, 10:43 PM

I apologize for swearing but come on, we have already been over this.

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 10:44 PM

I apologize for swearing but come on, we have already been over this.

I wasn't specifically addressing you. Olney's weird about it.

TCJohnson

01-28-2007, 10:46 PM

Oh, I know, and that was not directed at you either. :D

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 10:46 PM

Oh, I know, and that was not directed at you either. :D

Okay, then. :3

Gail Simone

01-28-2007, 10:49 PM

I really highly doubt he'll return.

I mean honestly, do you think he'd dig a bigger hole for himself?

Two days at the outside.

Gail

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 10:49 PM

Oh and if anyone notices the skies turning blood red today, and your first born children start speaking in tongues...

That's 'cause it's Jim Ritchey's birthday.

Happy Birthday ya dirty bastich. :p

Larry Dixon

01-28-2007, 10:50 PM

'Well, John, I was just waxing my cat the other day. Yes, their flailing does make for nice grungy artwork, especially when... (blah bah pretentious stuff here).'
'Laughs. That's such a clever painting technique, Danielle, it offers such raw realism.'
'I know, John, is my ingenuity not magnificent?'
'Thanks, Danielle, for doing this interview.'
'No problem, John. Thank you.'

-sniffle- I always choke up when I hear that interview. It's... it's just so inspiring... it gets me...gets me so choked up.

Hey James, BTW... I take your meaning... and I understand. And your work shows that you're a caring and soulful artist.

Danny Donovan

01-28-2007, 10:54 PM

Two days at the outside.

Gail

You know because you said it, he'll come back tomorrow to prove that you "lied" about when he came back!

"bwahahahaha! See "Gail?" I told you, you purpotrated these lies about my person you said I'd be gone for 2 days I was back in 1. You're such a dirty liar! You're just like the masonic conspiracy that keeps me out of comics!"

Papergirl

01-28-2007, 10:57 PM

Oh and if anyone notices the skies turning blood red today, and your first born children start speaking in tongues...

It means Olney told the truth?

That's 'cause it's Jim Ritchey's birthday.

Happy Birthday ya dirty bastich. :p

Oh... I guess that works, too.

Happy birthday, Jim! :D

~Bev

Reverend Smooth

01-28-2007, 10:57 PM

-sniffle- I always choke up when I hear that interview. It's... it's just so inspiring... it gets me...gets me so choked up.
I bet your cats are hiding now, you sick, sick man. XD

DaveRothe

01-28-2007, 10:58 PM

Isn't that something like serial killers returning to the scene of the crime?

J. Morgan (Bat) Neal

01-28-2007, 10:59 PM

I'm not Momma Absurd, but...

Ooooh! Dart board cover!

Thanks! :D

~Bev

Well the idea came from Momma Absurd's comments. However everyone can enjoy it. So have at it, Bev. :)

wishlish

01-28-2007, 11:31 PM

Honestly, I don't want to go there. I'm sure he had the family tragedies he's mentioned, and I don't want to add to that grief at all. Even though he has no sympathy for anyone else, ever, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be human in this regard, I think. So please, no comments about deceased relatives, okay?

Gail

The only one I've made- and I'm not taking it back- is that his mom would be ashamed at his conduct after her passing. Using his dead mom as the first reason he didn't pay anyone for MONTHS is appalling.

JamesRitcheyIII

01-28-2007, 11:56 PM

Oh and if anyone notices the skies turning blood red today, and your first born children start speaking in tongues...

That's 'cause it's Jim Ritchey's birthday.

Happy Birthday ya dirty bastich. :p

QUIT IMPLYING THAT I'M SATAN. I'm the other archetype, Lucifer (Christ--I really hope I'm not crossing some Vertigo Fanboy line that I don't know about--I barely read comics at all).

Buuuut...Thank You!:D

Hey James, BTW... I take your meaning... and I understand. And your work shows that you're a caring and soulful artist.

Thank YOU, Larry for this kindness--it won't be forgot. Thanks for putting up with my neurotic little rant, esp. as I sincerely respect your opinion, and consider you a great talent. We just can't all get to that 'Grail' at the same pace, or even down the same road...

I
Happy birthday, Jim! :D
~Bev

Thank, YOU Dahling!

Come to think of it, thank all of you for a comfortable place to hang out, esp. Gail. CHRIST--intelligent conversation??!! It's a wasteland inhabited by Morlocks outside these 'walls'. :D

Sally Sensational

01-29-2007, 12:04 AM

One thing -

(took me a while to catch up as I was trapped in CoH with SK for six hours - evil genius, that woman)

Did anyone else notice and/or comment on the fact that Olney claimed not to have any memory of Eddie and THEN went on to give very specific details about what Eddie was sent when he was in ORCA? I should have noted the post numbers, I guess, but I thought it was a bit odd that he could have no memory of the person, but such exact memories of the books sent and the writers of said books.

And another -

I'm very confused as to how Olney could have come back today with the intention of answering questions and signed off without ever answering a single one. His final post claimed that he was here to apologize and answer questions, but I know for a fact that, while he was on, Matt Doc Martin asked the same questions no less than 6 times and he never responded.

What an odd little man. He genuinely frightens me.

MacQuarrie

01-29-2007, 12:50 AM

I apologize for swearing but come on, we have already been over this.

Sorry. I've barely been able to pop in here since Wednesday. I can't see the site at work at all, and my evenigns have been taken up with things like helping my daughter with her schoolwork, attending church board meetings, neighborhood association meetings, putting up a couple of websites for clients, updating a couple of others, and actually drawing some comic book pages. I'm pretty sure there are at least a dozen pages that I missed completely here, and my preferences are set for 40 posts per page.

I did not mean to make you feel I was scolding you. I was scolding the idiot who continues to put quotes around Gail's name and attempts to imply that there is something improper about her use of her chosen identifier.

Carry on.

Reverend Smooth

01-29-2007, 01:04 AM

QUIT IMPLYING THAT I'M SATAN. Happy birthday!

Would you like some sulfur frosting with your brimstone cake? <3

JamesRitcheyIII

01-29-2007, 01:18 AM

Re: the pseudonym stuff:

Names are so arbitrary anyway. I never use them in conversation unless it's unavoidable, otherwise it sounds like a news interview.

'Well, John, I was just waxing my cat the other day. Yes, their flailing does make for nice grungy artwork, especially when... (blah bah pretentious stuff here).'
'Laughs. That's such a clever painting technique, Danielle, it offers such raw realism.'
'I know, John, is my ingenuity not magnificent?'
'Thanks, Danielle, for doing this interview.'
'No problem, John. Thank you.'

Of course, if he had a cool pseudonym, that might be moderately more entertaining.

'Well, Generalissimo Genghis Cornholio, I was just waxing my cat the other day...'

Ugh. Reminds me of folks who aren't very naturalistic with their characterization and dialogue in tele- and screenplays, characters repeating each others' names until I need dental work, from the grinding--comes off like a bad, nineteenth century, 'drawing room' mystery. Carol Burnett used to make fun of it, so there's no real excuse. Makes me want to find them, shake them, and scream "WATCH A FREAKING ROBERT ALTMAN MOVIE!!!", or "READ SOME GODDAMN JAMES JOYCE OR HENRY MILLER!!!" :D

Reverend Smooth

01-29-2007, 01:30 AM

Ugh. Reminds me of folks who aren't very naturalistic with their characterization and dialogue in tele- and screenplays, characters repeating each others' names until I need dental work, from the grinding--comes off like a bad, nineteenth century, 'drawing room' mystery. Carol Burnett used to make fun of it, so there's no real excuse. Makes me want to find them, shake them, and scream "WATCH A FREAKING ROBERT ALTMAN MOVIE!!!", or "READ SOME GODDAMN JAMES JOYCE OR HENRY MILLER!!!" :DI know! :D

It totally kills my suspension of disbelief, because people only speak that way on the news, in interviews, and in badly-written whatever.

Politicians do it too, but for the same reasons, it's for appearance's sake. Supposedly more personal, but it comes off fake (and even patronising).

And people who are always speaking for the cameras or who want to look 'cool' for some kind of audience (to keep this on-topic). It's really off-putting. X:

Joshua Pantalleresco

01-29-2007, 03:48 AM

the4thpip

01-29-2007, 04:01 AM

Is that English?

How did this weirdo ever get the idea he could write?

Seriously, it's horrifying!

Gail
cough>Bendis<cough

:p

Cam63

01-29-2007, 04:16 AM

I like how he thinks that even if he paid all the people he fucked, he'd somehow be in the clear. That's genuine fuckin' delusion right there.

Actually, he thought after not paying people and threatening them with bullshit legal action, he'd somehow be in the clear.

Cam63

01-29-2007, 04:30 AM

You forgot being the inspiration for the Ric Olie action figure.

I think he'd be more the inspiration for this guy.

http://wildyams.com/blog/archives/porkins.jpg

Lt. Porkins of the Rebel Alliance, folks.

the4thpip

01-29-2007, 04:33 AM

Cam63

01-29-2007, 04:35 AM

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2767/ro1qt8.jpg

That's the ugliest toilet paper design I've ever seen.

the4thpip

01-29-2007, 04:40 AM

Cam63

01-29-2007, 05:04 AM

I don't know about you guys, but in my opinion, if Batman and Momma Absurd had a fight...

...she'd kick that playboy's ass.

Gail

...and she don't need no stinkin' " prep time " either !

Cam63

01-29-2007, 05:08 AM

Well, he speaks high school level French.

Ou est la stylo?

Huh. That's probably wrong. I'm just too damn old to remember my high school French. But I think the Reverand said he's very good, something French, migraines, and something French.

Wow. High School French is damn useful.

Ask me about my years serving " In Country " with the Foreign Legion in Bribbaree and Taralga.

I even got to meet Laurel and Hardy and that Beau Geste fella.

Papergirl

01-29-2007, 05:08 AM

Well the idea came from Momma Absurd's comments. However everyone can enjoy it. So have at it, Bev. :)

Thanks! :D

QUIT IMPLYING THAT I'M SATAN. I'm the other archetype, Lucifer (Christ--I really hope I'm not crossing some Vertigo Fanboy line that I don't know about--I barely read comics at all).

Heh! I won't say a word. Promise. Although, if you ever feel the need to discuss Vertigo stuff, I know of a nice little forum here that would be happy to have you post there. ;)

Thank, YOU Dahling!

You're quite welcome! Hope you have a terrific day!

~Bev

wishlish

01-29-2007, 05:12 AM

Two days at the outside.

Gail

I hope, in the interim, he seeks professional help. The cycle Scott Shaw! alluded to seems to indicate we're getting closer to the big breakdown we all know is coming. He's backing himself into a corner. With more lawsuits coming (I hope) and less people willing to tolerate his behaviour, he's going to feel very isolated with little way out.

Matt Doc Martin

01-29-2007, 05:28 AM

Well, in keeping with past patterns, his blogs have disappeared again.

Looks like no SPA update...sad.

Gail Simone

01-29-2007, 05:28 AM

cough>Bendis<cough

:p

No, no, no...Bendis is maybe not a good speller, but he's a BRILLIANT writer.

Rick's just bad at every aspect of it.

Gail

Gail Simone

01-29-2007, 05:30 AM

Well, in keeping with past patterns, his blogs have disappeared again.

Looks like no SPA update...sad.

Yikes.

Rick "I always stand by what I say" Olney.

Gail

Cam63

01-29-2007, 05:31 AM

'Mornin', "Gail."

:p

the4thpip

01-29-2007, 05:46 AM

No, no, no...Bendis is maybe not a good speller, but he's a BRILLIANT writer.

Rick's just bad at every aspect of it.

Gail

I meant that maybe seeing Bendis post on the interwebs gave Peanut the idea that he could write.

This guy's grammar is as bad as mine, so we both must become successful writers!

DungeonmasterJim

01-29-2007, 06:07 AM

I'm guessing Olney must have posted. There have been 30 new pages that I haven't read since 6pm last night.

Oy.

DM Jim

Danny Donovan

01-29-2007, 06:20 AM

QUIT IMPLYING THAT I'M SATAN. I'm the other archetype, Lucifer (Christ--I really hope I'm not crossing some Vertigo Fanboy line that I don't know about--I barely read comics at all).

Buuuut...Thank You!:D

You're welcome. If you're not satan you're at the very least a very high up class of evil. Don't worry, keep up the good work and you'll be running the Inferno one of these decades...

You should read Lucifer however, very good book. Mike Carey is a great writer, someone who's metephysical theories and concepts I think you'd really enjoy.

Well, in keeping with past patterns, his blogs have disappeared again.

Looks like no SPA update...sad.

Why on earth does he do that? all those posts have been logged here, and its not like he has to worry about there not being room on Myspace for another "missive" it's like LJ you can just keep going and going, and going, and going....

One thing I hate, more than anything else in this world is the fact people think they can say what they like without having to back it up. It's like a constant in our current culture. Post whatever you want on your blog, if people don't agree with you, throw a tizzy fit and delete it all taking your ball and going home.

There was in fact another writer (whom I won't mention) who has still yet to get his real "start" who did this on a regular basis. Went all emo and ran away after every little setback only to come back days later as if
nothing happened.

Everytime he did that, I felt less and less enchanted with the prospects of seeing his work again. It's a hard business, you're in it or you are not. Man up, take responsibility for what you say, if you have critics, you look for anything substantive in their remarks, if there are none (which can be the case on the internet.) flip 'em off and do your thing.

Fighting truths with ever changing lies in hopes one of them will be true enough for people to believe is just cowardly, and lazy. And coming from a Navy town, with a bunch of friends in the marines (yes, I know it's like the Jets and the Sharks) this is NOT what you are taught. This is not the character you are hoped to have.

But that said, 1 week later he'll repost his anti-SPA diatribe, come here to defend his actions. Bitch out anyone who is considering donating to The Unscrewed! Auction, as being traitors to comics, and another person who is trying to keep him out of the industry.

So endeth the sermon...

Matt, are you logging his myspace blogs on that site too? I think it falls out of Sarah's jurisidiction but I'm not sure if you're keeping them for your investigation.

I think he'd be more the inspiration for this guy.

http://wildyams.com/blog/archives/porkins.jpg

Lt. Porkins of the Rebel Alliance, folks.

WEDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I always get a kick out of Wedge, which I always wondered if he got that name because of how many cheese wedges he could fit in his mouth before a mission or because that's how he got in his X-Wing.

Wasn't he also related to Ewan McGreggor?

So what now that we've had the blog deletion is the count still 2 days until he returns or like a week or two?

How long was it from the first blog deletion to his reoccurance? Surely someone has enough free time to look that up. lol.

OzBat!

01-29-2007, 06:23 AM

That's not Wedge, Wedge has the distinction of appearing in (and surviving) all three original Star Wars movies, while not being a major character. This picture is of Porkins, who didn't.

Cam63

01-29-2007, 07:00 AM

That's not Wedge, Wedge has the distinction of appearing in (and surviving) all three original Star Wars movies, while not being a major character. This picture is of Porkins, who didn't.

Porkin's NDA weren't laser cannon proof, that's for sure.

Danny Donovan

01-29-2007, 07:06 AM

That's not Wedge, Wedge has the distinction of appearing in (and surviving) all three original Star Wars movies, while not being a major character. This picture is of Porkins, who didn't.

I always thought Porkin's first name was Wedge!

I've been remembering stuff wrong all this time!

My bad! ^_^

AIPman1

01-29-2007, 07:07 AM

oooh are we telling Stan Lee stories?

I'd be remiss not to add mine:

It was at a ChicagoCon...not sure i it was the year Wizard had taken it over or beore that...

I rode an elevator with Stan, he told me a bit about the Spiderman movie in the works...that was YEARS before it hit the screen...and I gave him one o my minicomics.

Someone saw me get off the elevator at the same time or such, so word started spreading around the small pressers at the show, and I spent the rest o the day telling people that NO, I did not tell Stan Lee to fuck off.

I had a bit of a rebellious reputation back then...

I'm sure he would NEVER remember the event...I do though!!!

AIPman1

01-29-2007, 07:42 AM

Well, in keeping with past patterns, his blogs have disappeared again.

Looks like no SPA update...sad.

Well, I'll be posting our weekly newsletter #139 later today, getting going on Self Publisher #51, and Mysterious Visions Anthology #3, and After Hours #2...

I don't care WHAT Rick says about me or the SPA, DocA, DocB, and others, all spent time in a chat room last night...all is well with the world.

What's a Rick blog gonna do? Change the course of the tides, re-freeze the global ice caps, and make us all look at each other and go "oh, gee, I guess we shouldn't do positive things together"? Not likely.

We all know who played what parts in the past few years of hard feelings, but we're all solidly sure WHERE that all came from, and can agree everyone made mistakes...first of which was being involved with Rick in any way.

I don't care if he posts something or not. If he does I'll scan it for actionable things, but otherwise, not going to change my life....