Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Danny Donovan]

See, that's exactly what has me concerned.

~Bev

If you want to talk about scary, go read a thread where anyone mentions the word "gun control" .............

No one is taking his weapons!

Also this is a chief reason why we need it! Too many of the wrong types have access! lol.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

That is why Paul made his folowup album in the late eightes with the a same Abbey Road street scene.
Rick Olney=Helter Skelter!

...Well if the carved X in the forehead fits...

[Reverend Smooth]

If you want to talk about scary, go read a thread where anyone mentions the word "gun control" .............

No one is taking his weapons!

Also this is a chief reason why we need it! Too many of the wrong types have access! lol.
My view is that anybody who goes at me better take me down with the first shot, because that person won't get a second chance.

[Papergirl]

...AND he should be frisked by Chris Cross.
Hey now, if Chris is the one to frisk him, there won't be anything left of him. And I think there's a waiting list of people who want to help "frisk" him.

Leave something for the rest of us, dammit!

~Bev

[Danny Donovan]

...AND he should be frisked by Chris Cross.

There is nothing that would make you confess to crimes you didn't commit faster than having an angry Chris Cross bearing down on ya.

Hmmm hey Ronee, how much is Chris' personal appearance fees? We may want to borrow him for a trip to Mohawk. :p

Although Chris and Ronee could make a great mismatched buddy cop team. :p The soft spoken big guy and the firey femme with a touch too much! :p

(sorry Ronee I had to use that line.. I'll return to my shame corner now.)

[Papergirl]

Although Chris and Ronee could make a great mismatched buddy cop team. :p The soft spoken big guy and the firey femme with a touch too much! :p

(sorry Ronee I had to use that line.. I'll return to my shame corner now.)

Since Ronee isn't here to defend herself...

*whaps Danny with her rolled up Sunday NY Times*

Bad Danny! Bad, BAD Danny! No Scooby Snacks for YOU, mister!

~Bev

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Yes, Campbell played the Squire of Gothos.

And also, in Wrath of Khan -- um... that was all Montalban. He worked out a lot prior to the production. There's an interview with him about it, and he was laughing at the rumor that it was prosthetic.

Yeah.... thread drift.

Anyway... I'm still wondering what "legal cause" I have to be a target of the peanut's. I mean, I know full well that I made his shit list by being smarter than him, and not intimidated by him. But in his previous outburst, he'd said I'd posted untruths, and I was wondering what he was claiming they were.

(I don't really expect him to cite anything specific, since it's not there to be cited. But, I mean, come on, if he really want to try and scare me, he's going to have to get a heck of a lot more specific than vaguely saying I've been stating falsehoods. Hey ho.)


Its simple.

Anyone who says bad things about him is lying.

Those who do it the most are the biggest liars.

Those who are apart of the campaign to drag the worm screaming into the light?

They are the biggest liars of all.

It is a badge of honor. Wear it with pride. :D

[Danny Donovan]

Since Ronee isn't here to defend herself...

*whaps Danny with her rolled up Sunday NY Times*

Bad Danny! Bad, BAD Danny! No Scooby Snacks for YOU, mister!

~Bev


lol. *cries* I blame the insomnia.

me brainpan stopped a workin' a long time ago...

*returns to the shame corner*

[neko onna]

wrong smiley face, my apologies.

I meant it IS a shame that Wizard is taking over all the great small cons.
see what happens when the wrong smiley is used..mass hysteria!!! LOL

[Cam63]

Here's a new legal question for those of you with connections to ask about:

At what point, if ever, does repeatedly, loudly, openingly threatening to sue someone (and thus, an argument could be made, causing damage to the would-be defendant's reputation) become (in and of itself) actionable?

Anyone out there have a reliable answer?

(I tried calling Mr. Olney to ask his opinion, but [oddly enough, he said, his voice bleeding sarcasm] his phone now only accepts pre-approved incoming numbers.)

There's a surprise.

[Cam63]

A quick note to Rick:

Rick, you've made it clear that you think the reason people despise you is because "Gail Simone" picked on you and started a flame war, and that "Mark Waid" made it worse by offering to financially support people to sue you.

Bull.

I love Gail's writing, and I love Mark's writing. But if I thought they were unfairly attacking you, I'd have no problem telling them that in this thread.

I strongly dislike you solely because of your actions and your words alone. You're a misogynistic, lying deadbeat. You owe tens of thousands of dollars to hard-working talent who just wanted to make your TLE dream come alive- at least until you stiffed them. No one has defended you, not on this thread or on any other thread in the entire Internet. NOT ONE HUMAN BEING.

You've paid NO ONE associated with TLE. You owe three comic stores substantial debts, and one sued you (Comixzone in Syracuse). Your MiniCon efforts are a joke. You smell badly. You roped your wife into the debts owed by TLE, even while you were telling an employee that you were trying to divorce her.

Every time you post something on the internet, you come off at best as a man in serious need of mental care. At worst, you're one of the foulest, most evil men I've ever known.

And Gail, Kurt, and Mark have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Pay your debts. And go away. Or don't pay your debts, and get sued into oblivion. I don't care. But don't blame your slimy actions on others. You are the author of your own tragedy.

Good post.

[Sally Sensational]

My two cents worth - and you can keep the change!

Any and all of us who are into praying in any fashion should be petitioning our higher powers for all the help and blessings that Olney's wife can get. I mean, if this is the way he treats total strangers, you can only imagine how bad he must be at home. That poor woman probably gets a double dose of everything he dishes out here. I've been in a relationship with someone that paranoid and it's not pretty.

Not to mention that his unethical business practices are going to impact her in a major way, too . . .

(Guess you better put me on the list of people to sue, peanut)

[Crowley]

At this time I'd like to open up the Photoshop
Dick's head onto things contest:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/trickydick.png

[Crowley]

the new OCRA NRA logo:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/dodobird.png

[Danny Donovan]

Rick's theme song. ^_^;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fo2GEC5J45w

[Wil Radcliffe]

Thus far, I've gotten the seeds of friendships with around an even dozen terrific people.
It looks like Misty* & I will be working with James Owen & Coppervale Studios on any number of projects.
I've hired Wil Radcliffe & Doc Absurd (and sent the payment, as a money order for their convenience, in whole, in advance, by the way).


I would like to publicly acknowledge Larry and Misty's kindness. Not only does the extra money come in handy, but the genuine humanity they've shown has lifted my spirits and rekindled the embers of hope in my heart.

Sheesh! That was sappy! Maybe they'd throw in some free writing lessons along with the job! ;)

[Sally Sensational]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/vigilant_oblivion/olneydragon.gif

Hey, that's better than the original!

Although I have to admit, that I did not use Photoshop - did I violate the NDA regarding the contest? Oh wait, I didn't sign one . . .

[Crowley]

wait, wait... he WAS in Star Wars:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/Jabba.png

[Gail Simone]

the new OCRA NRA logo:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/dodobird.png

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!


:)

Gail

[Gail Simone]

wait, wait... he WAS in Star Wars:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/Jabba.png

Oh, my god.

There is no way I'm gonna be able to make it through too many of these. :)

Gail

[Danny Donovan]

wait, wait... he WAS in Star Wars:




dude, that's creepy. plus if you stare at it a long time and you're as exhausted as I am it looks like Jabba the Rick is moving.

*brrrrrrr*


Although I will say Carrie Fisher is hot. :)

[Larry Dixon]

Maybe they'd throw in some free writing lessons along with the job! ;)

Writing lessons? Give me a break, Wil. Writing's the easiest job around. All you have to do is rearrange words that are already in the dictionary. I mean, honestly.

[OzBat!]

Guys, Olney has given us enough material to hang him with many multiple hundreds of times over, can we keep the character assassination restricted to the self-inflicted variety?


EDIT: this is not moderator direction. This is just me personally and what I'm comfortable with. If you disagree, so be it!

[Samuel Catalino]

This wasn't the case when they did most of their work. Does this mean they couldn't claim those works as theirs, because they were done by a different legal person? If Mr Olney wanted their appearance at a convention, could he stiff Stanley Martin Lieber and Samuel Clemmens on their airfares because those aren't the names on their works?


Oz,

I don't know when the people you mentioned changed their names during their careers, but that is cutting hairs so I will not go there being irrelevant.

R.O. told me that he spoke to Stan Lee, and Stan Lee told him that he could not afford him, so it is highly unlikely that R.O. could stiff him.

Best,

Samuel

[Crowley]

Guys, Olney has given us enough material to hang him with many multiple hundreds of times over, can we keep the character assassination restricted to the self-inflicted variety?


EDIT: this is not moderator direction. This is just me personally and what I'm comfortable with. If you disagree, so be it!

I'm hoping to lure him out into uncontrolled fits of rage by continuing to Photoshop him onto objects.

I promise I'll limit myself to only 10 more. ;)

[Crowley]

Guys, Olney has given us enough material to hang him with many multiple hundreds of times over, can we keep the character assassination restricted to the self-inflicted variety?


EDIT: this is not moderator direction. This is just me personally and what I'm comfortable with. If you disagree, so be it!

I'm hoping to lure him out into uncontrolled fits of rage by continuing to Photoshop him onto objects.

I promise I'll limit myself to only 10 more. ;)

[Larry Dixon]

Guys, Olney has given us enough material to hang him with many multiple hundreds of times over, can we keep the character assassination restricted to the self-inflicted variety?

Crap, OzBat, you're right. We wouldn't want his public perception to be....

...
...
...

...I just can't bring myself to actually say it.

[Larry Dixon]

Doublepost thanks to... I'll blame it on Double XP Weekend lag from CoH.

[Larry Dixon]

Triplepost because of ...ahhhh this time I'll blame it on Simone using up all my intarweb bandwidth downloading hairstyle porn.

[OzBat!]

R.O. told me that he spoke to Stan Lee, and Stan Lee told him that he could not afford him, so it is highly unlikely that R.O. could stiff him.Just between you and me, Samuel Clemmens had a few problems with the hotel rooms and breakfast arrangements, so Stan was right to back out... :D

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w259/psychotronic01/peanut.jpg

It was just too tempting. I'll quit now.

[Cam63]

the new OCRA NRA logo:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/dodobird.png

Good job, Crow'. :D

...and that explains better than Darwin could why they became extinct.

[Cam63]

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w259/psychotronic01/peanut.jpg

It was just too tempting. I'll quit now.

That was a goodun too. :)

[TCJohnson]

I just want to say everybody here who is arguing about Klingons are complete geeks and have no place on a forum about comic books.

Thank you for your attention.

[Cam63]

I just want to say everybody here who is arguing about Klingons are complete geeks and have no place on a forum about comic books.

Thank you for your attention.

Klingons ? We call 'em barnacles in the pirate business.

[JamesRitcheyIII]

Klingons ? We call 'em barnacles in the pirate business.

In the magnificent words of our brilliant expatriate, Robert Crumb,
REMEMBER TO WIPE YOUR ASS, FOLKS! :D

[Typo Lad]

Re: Potlatch...

I know Steve Nopperberg and have asked him if he'd be willing to comment on his "dealings" with Rick and ORCA.

Interestingly enough, the creator of Rumblestrips (sorry, her name eascapes me)has a story slated for the next Potlatch.

[Samuel Catalino]

Just between you and me, Samuel Clemmens had a few problems with the hotel rooms and breakfast arrangements, so Stan was right to back out... :D


Oz,

Maybe Samuel Clemmens will appear at the Next Spooky Con. Wait a minute...has there ever been a Spooky Con?

Best,

Samuel

[AaronJ]

And if High Profile Comic Book Publishers could sue for someone saying "mean" things about them... Joe Quesada would be suing half the comic Internet.

Now that's sig material!

Honestly? No. I can't keep his lies straight! He has more continuity changes than Infinite Crisis and even harder to follow.

Hilarious. More sig material.

I am so sigging that.

~Bev

Damn.

Not saying there's anything noble about it, mind you... just saying "wow".

Oh, I understand where you're coming from. It is mind-blowing.

i know one thing.. i'm not getting on you guys bad side... this has gone on for 730 pages. For this much unrest for one person, it has to be a world record. So let me be the first to say....I luuuuuvvv yewwwww. I just caaallled to saaayyy how much i caaaarrreeee.....:)

Lesson learned: Don't try and cheat people Gail Simone likes. It is not going to turn out well for you.

William Campbell, who was the star of the horror classic Dementia 13 and was reportedly the actor who replaced the dead Paul McCartney.

"Dementia 13" absolutely rules, and I've only met like two people who have ever seen it.

Writing lessons? Give me a break, Wil. Writing's the easiest job around. All you have to do is rearrange words that are already in the dictionary. I mean, honestly.

That's what I've been doing wrong all these years?! Dammit, why didn't anyone tell me?

Triplepost because of ...ahhhh this time I'll blame it on Simone using up all my intarweb bandwidth downloading hairstyle porn.

That's ... disturbing.

Klingons ? We call 'em barnacles in the pirate business.

Ouch.

[DocAbsurd]

The MMC and Spooky for 2005 were canceled because of finances and a death in the family. The MMC was canned with barely 2 weeks notice because the 'loan' needed couldn't be secured 3 weeks before.

The MMC for 2006 was canceled because of more deaths in the family. I believe a small one-day show was announced but -- surprisingly -- that was canceled also.

There has never been a Spooky.

He's had more non-cons than successful ones.

How the feck can he call the one he's planning to cancel this year #7!?! I'll admit, he confused me to no end when I had to listen to him blather on about his conspiracies; but this is insanity. He's touting non-products and non-events. The only thing eventful about his cons is the excuse he's gonna concoct when he finally does axe them.

And I promise you one thing:

If he does, thru some mystical means, manage to secure the funds to successfully host a show, I will do everything in my power to enlighten those wishing to attend, either as guests or attendees, about how many people he has literally robbed. I will haunt every messageboard, every forum, every blog, every charity until everyone knows who that convention money actually belongs to.

[Samuel Catalino]

The MMC and Spooky for 2005 were canceled because of finances and a death in the family. The MMC was canned with barely 2 weeks notice because the 'loan' needed couldn't be secured 3 weeks before.

The MMC for 2006 was canceled because of more deaths in the family. I believe a small one-day show was announced but -- surprisingly -- that was canceled also.

There has never been a Spooky.

He's had more non-cons than successful ones.

How the feck can he call the one he's planning to cancel this year #7!?! I'll admit, he confused me to no end when I had to listen to him blather on about his conspiracies; but this is insanity. He's touting non-products and non-events. The only thing eventful about his cons is the excuse he's gonna concoct when he finally does axe them.

And I promise you one thing:

If he does, thru some mystical means, manage to secure the funds to successfully host a show, I will do everything in my power to enlighten those wishing to attend, either as guests or attendees, about how many people he has literally robbed. I will haunt every messageboard, every forum, every blog, every charity until everyone knows who that convention money actually belongs to.


Doc,

That was my point, that there has never been a Spooky. You knew that though. :D

It was a running private joke that R.O. advertised a lot of conventions but never had them, but gosh there were certainly enough excuses for their cancellations.

Best,

Samuel

[AaronJ]

Seriously, what guests could he get at this point?

There might be a few herders in Outer Mongolia who don't know about this debacle. Who knows? Maybe they can write or draw?

[Danny Donovan]

Seriously, what guests could he get at this point?

There might be a few herders in Outer Mongolia who don't know about this debacle. Who knows? Maybe they can write or draw?

Brian Bendihos, Brian Bendis' cheaper mexican counterpart. Bendihos does all the cons Bendis doesn't wanna do. :p

But seriously I would NOT want to be a member of Rick's family, their untimely demise has been the excuse of many a canceled convention.

If its true my heart goes out to him for losing family members but isn't it odd they all start giving up the ghost right before a convention or a book is supposed to come out?

color me curious.

[AaronJ]

Brian Bendihos, Brian Bendis' cheaper mexican counterpart. Bendihos does all the cons Bendis doesn't wanna do. :p

OK, you officially owe me a Caribou Coffee Medium Hazlenut Latte.

But seriously I would NOT want to be a member of Rick's family, their untimely demise has been the excuse of many a canceled convention.

If its true my heart goes out to him for losing family members but isn't it odd they all start giving up the ghost right before a convention or a book is supposed to come out?

color me curious.

Losing people is hard and horrible, even for the slugs of the world. It's the only thing that Olney has in common with the actual human race.

That being said, I wouldn't believe him if he told me the sun rises in East. The man's pathologies are legion.

[JTPencils]

color me curious.

Totally out of "curious" Danny, how's about we just color ya "jaded" instead?

As to the connection of con's to untimely passings in R.O.'s family... can you imagine how THEY feel when they hear he's got plans for a new one?? "Oh Lordy, everyone say goodbye to Aunt Gertrude... she's been feeling poorly lately, and there's a Spooky-a-coming..." It's a bit like dreading the boogey man!!

[DocAbsurd]

How sad is it, Sam, when a 'promoter' has more canceled shows than ones that actually took place? It's even more laughable that he continues to believe that good intentions and plausible excuses count as much -- maybe even more -- as successfully hosting a convention.

He moans about how our 'hobby' isn't taken seriously and that his efforts will single-handedly change the world's perceptions about comic books. Yet each and every single time he postpones one, he sets our credibility back a few dozen years. His actions -- and inactions -- are doing more than just damaging his reputation:

They're damaging ours as well.

I think I may have realized (one of) his biggest flaw(s) in his scope of all this. To him, it's a hobby; as so many have pointed out, it's not real to him. There's no business, no livelihood, no sequential-arts entertainment industry that's been thriving consistently for 50+ years now. Franchises haven't been built upon characters firmly established between the covers of monthly periodicals that spin off into movies, clothing, toys, novels, snack endorsements. Hundreds of thousands of faithful fans don't hang on every word released into public consumption.

Why should there be? After all, it's only a 'hobby'.

And hobbies aren't worth serious consideration. They're just ways to pass the time, things to wile away our spare moments, flights into fancy to drag our attention into realms of imagination. Creators may have a talent, an ability to make these seem real and give their readers a momentary release from their mundane drudgery; but why pay them? It's not real to him.

It seems like he really believes he's providing us a service by giving us a creative outlet as defined by his terms.

His terms define this as a 'hobby'. Therefore, no real effort is being made. We should be thankful he's even looking at our work, let alone offering us genuine-looking contracts.

But when his 'reputation' (such as it is) is brought into question, then it becomes real. His interpretation of the legal system becomes real. Our grave misgivings of his intentions become real assaults and his meltdowns are simply self-defense; our 'attacks' are real, his are justified.

All because this is his love for a 'hobby'.

[rummblestrips]

Re: Potlatch...

I know Steve Nopperberg and have asked him if he'd be willing to comment on his "dealings" with Rick and ORCA.

Interestingly enough, the creator of Rumblestrips (sorry, her name eascapes me)has a story slated for the next Potlatch.

Please don't pull the Potlatch project into this.

Steve "Noppie" put out the Potlatch once a year, at first to benefit associations that support small press, but I think the last few years have been just for the sake of getting small press and Indy stories out there! I've been involved for three years now, last year putting out a Canadian version with a different cover.
HEY, and congrats to Chad Lampert and Tom WIlliams, their story from the 2006 Potlatch was nominated for a DAY PRIZE by Dave Sims, which will be presented at this years SPACE con.

To my knowledge, Rick has had nothing to do with Potlatch since they did the book for Orca a few years back and I hope Noppie keeps it that way.

[NatGertler]

Writing's the easiest job around. All you have to do is rearrange words that are already in the dictionary.But if you do that, then the guy who wrote the dictionary can force you to put his copyright notice on anything you write. (And it probably will be a guy. I'm pretty sure Funk N. Wagnall is a guy. Same with M. Eric N. Heritage and "Ox" Ford. They let Mary M. Webster write one, but she's just a token.)

[Typo Lad]

Please don't pull the Potlatch project into this.

Steve "Noppie" put out the Potlatch once a year, at first to benefit associations that support small press, but I think the last few years have been just for the sake of getting small press and Indy stories out there! I've been involved for three years now, last year putting out a Canadian version with a different cover.
HEY, and congrats to Chad Lampert and Tom WIlliams, their story from the 2006 Potlatch was nominated for a DAY PRIZE by Dave Sims, which will be presented at this years SPACE con.

To my knowledge, Rick has had nothing to do with Potlatch since they did the book for Orca a few years back and I hope Noppie keeps it that way.
I know the history of Potlatch. I'[e known Steve for over a decade. I also know he has some Olney stories. All I did was ask him if he'd mind sharing 'em.

Potlatch is an awesome project and Steve's one of the nicest guys I know.

[Danny Donovan]

OK, you officially owe me a Caribou Coffee Medium Hazlenut Latte.

Put it on Rick's tab. He owes me enough money anyhow, what's one more thing? :p



Losing people is hard and horrible, even for the slugs of the world. It's the only thing that Olney has in common with the actual human race.

That being said, I wouldn't believe him if he told me the sun rises in East. The man's pathologies are legion.

As I have said in the past, I have not only had a loss, I had the unpleasant and very unenviable position of watching someone slowly, painfully, fade into nothingness, with naught that I could do, save shake my fists at the cloud and wished I had something more than a "it's in the mail" to count on.

And for my trouble, for my grief I was called a bully. I was trying to guilt someone into feeling sorry for me. However when Someone else's tragedy befalls, suddenly everyone's a horrible person for not dropping everything and offering complintary cookies and hugs.

As you said, it's an awful thing we all share regardless of if we are good or bad people, but anything that's said is suspect until proven at this point.

Totally out of "curious" Danny, how's about we just color ya "jaded" instead?

As to the connection of con's to untimely passings in R.O.'s family... can you imagine how THEY feel when they hear he's got plans for a new one?? "Oh Lordy, everyone say goodbye to Aunt Gertrude... she's been feeling poorly lately, and there's a Spooky-a-coming..." It's a bit like dreading the boogey man!!

Jaded does have a lovely hue to it. Considering how I'm feeling this morning, I wonder if it'll clash with the color green I was before the jade enters into it. :(

Sweet Aunt Petunia better start making herself right with Jesus now because in June she may be called to the choir invisible to excuse yet another cancelation.

[rummblestrips]

I know the history of Potlatch. I'[e known Steve for over a decade. I also know he has some Olney stories. All I did was ask him if he'd mind sharing 'em.

Potlatch is an awesome project and Steve's one of the nicest guys I know.

Yeah, he's good people.
One thing I will say about Steve is when he approaches me and says he's going to do something, I don't ever have second thoughts about whether he'll do it or not. His track record speaks for itself. If he's says he's putting out a TPB, then he does it, and does it well.

[Danny Donovan]

Same with M. Eric N. Heritage and "Ox" Ford.

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. aren't they members of The Enforcers? Where's Fancy Dan when you need him?

I knew the dictionary people were involved with organized crime!

[Blake Petit]

No sightings overnight? I guess dinner is still going on...

[Samuel Catalino]

How sad is it, Sam, when a 'promoter' has more canceled shows than ones that actually took place? It's even more laughable that he continues to believe that good intentions and plausible excuses count as much -- maybe even more -- as successfully hosting a convention.

He moans about how our 'hobby' isn't taken seriously and that his efforts will single-handedly change the world's perceptions about comic books. Yet each and every single time he postpones one, he sets our credibility back a few dozen years. His actions -- and inactions -- are doing more than just damaging his reputation:

They're damaging ours as well.

I think I may have realized (one of) his biggest flaw(s) in his scope of all this. To him, it's a hobby; as so many have pointed out, it's not real to him. There's no business, no livelihood, no sequential-arts entertainment industry that's been thriving consistently for 50+ years now. Franchises haven't been built upon characters firmly established between the covers of monthly periodicals that spin off into movies, clothing, toys, novels, snack endorsements. Hundreds of thousands of faithful fans don't hang on every word released into public consumption.

Why should there be? After all, it's only a 'hobby'.

And hobbies aren't worth serious consideration. They're just ways to pass the time, things to wile away our spare moments, flights into fancy to drag our attention into realms of imagination. Creators may have a talent, an ability to make these seem real and give their readers a momentary release from their mundane drudgery; but why pay them? It's not real to him.

It seems like he really believes he's providing us a service by giving us a creative outlet as defined by his terms.

His terms define this as a 'hobby'. Therefore, no real effort is being made. We should be thankful he's even looking at our work, let alone offering us genuine-looking contracts.

But when his 'reputation' (such as it is) is brought into question, then it becomes real. His interpretation of the legal system becomes real. Our grave misgivings of his intentions become real assaults and his meltdowns are simply self-defense; our 'attacks' are real, his are justified.

All because this is his love for a 'hobby'.


Doc,

I mentioned that to him a long time ago, but my advice went unheeded and it was and still is a running joke about the conventions. Suffice to say, I never made plane reservations to go up to Syracuse to attend any of these conventions that he mentioned he was going to have.

It has been mentioned a number of times that he felt he was much more than he actually is. All the times I heard him bemoan ACTOR and wonder where the money was going, it kind of makes the current stuff going on make me laugh at his concern about ACTOR.

If this is a "hobby" to him, how come he considers himself a promoter of conventions and publisher of comics?

Best,

Samuel

[Gail Simone]

RICK: I will be back with PROOF Gail Simone lied!

(racing footsteps, front door slams, van of justice starts up, crickets chirping endlessly)


I can't help it. What a loser.

Gail

[Papergirl]

RICK: I will be back with PROOF Gail Simone lied!

(racing footsteps, front door slams, van of justice starts up, crickets chirping endlessly)


I can't help it. What a loser.

Gail
Now, Gail... It takes time to find evidence that doesn't exist! Give him time, I'm sure he'll be back as soon as he can!

~Bev

[Samuel Catalino]

RICK: I will be back with PROOF Gail Simone lied!

(racing footsteps, front door slams, van of justice starts up, crickets chirping endlessly)


I can't help it. What a loser.

Gail


Gail,

I can not speak for you, but I lie down when I go to sleep every night. :D

Best,

Samuel

[Gail Simone]

Gail,

I can not speak for you, but I lie down when I go to sleep every night. :D

Best,

Samuel

You know, I read that four times before I got the joke.

Maybe Rick's contagious. :)

Gail

[EdContradictory]

The MMC and Spooky for 2005 were canceled because of finances and a death in the family. The MMC was canned with barely 2 weeks notice because the 'loan' needed couldn't be secured 3 weeks before.

The MMC for 2006 was canceled because of more deaths in the family. I believe a small one-day show was announced but -- surprisingly -- that was canceled also.

There has never been a Spooky.

He's had more non-cons than successful ones.

While I feel awful about the deaths the man has had to weather... the cons weren't cancelled for any reason other than financial ones.

Hard and harsh as it sounds, I can't think of any other cons that have ever shut down for personal reasons. If you can't personally run it, you get someone who can to work it in your place. Every con he cancelled, there were other people depending on it for income.

Frankly, it's awful how he uses the deaths of others to cover his own mistakes.

[Sarah Beach]

While I feel awful about the deaths the man has had to weather... the cons weren't cancelled for any reason other than financial ones.

Hard and harsh as it sounds, I can't think of any other cons that have ever shut down for personal reasons. If you can't personally run it, you get someone who can to work it in your place. Every con he cancelled, there were other people depending on it for income.

Frankly, it's awful how he uses the deaths of others to cover his own mistakes.

But ED! Letting someone else take over a con in his place when something bad has happened in his life, why... that would mean someone else would get the credit for it! And what if they were successful!!???? That would mean that he wasn't even necessary! He can't have that! Much, much better to cancel the con, because that way he make sure that people understand that HE'S the only one who can make a con happen in upstate New York.

[Koben Kelly]

As I have said in the past, I have not only had a loss, I had the unpleasant and very unenviable position of watching someone slowly, painfully, fade into nothingness, with naught that I could do, save shake my fists at the cloud and wished I had something more than a "it's in the mail" to count on.

And for my trouble, for my grief I was called a bully. I was trying to guilt someone into feeling sorry for me. However when Someone else's tragedy befalls, suddenly everyone's a horrible person for not dropping everything and offering complintary cookies and hugs.

Hey, Danny.

I'm very sorry about your loss and the tragedy you had to live through. It's a lot easier for me to feel bad for you than it is to come up with a modicum of sympathy for someone who loses someone at just the right time to excuse themselves for any fault in a failed convention. While I did not have to experience someone wasting away, my father passed suddenly while teaching a seminar in California, far away from the state we lived in. It's a horrible thing to feel helpless, and that kind of loss can cripple someone. You have every right to your bitterness toward Rick. I'm glad, however, that that bitterness doesn't rule your life as you continue to work in the biz.

ZIVIO

[THEDOC]

If its true my heart goes out to him for losing family members but isn't it odd they all start giving up the ghost right before a convention or a book is supposed to come out?

color me curious.

"Giving up the ghost...Spooky!!! I too feel for "Rick" but I think using that event all the time gets weiry.

[THEDOC]

How sad is it, Sam, when a 'promoter' has more canceled shows than ones that actually took place? It's even more laughable that he continues to believe that good intentions and plausible excuses count as much -- maybe even more -- as successfully hosting a convention.

He moans about how our 'hobby' isn't taken seriously and that his efforts will single-handedly change the world's perceptions about comic books. Yet each and every single time he postpones one, he sets our credibility back a few dozen years. His actions -- and inactions -- are doing more than just damaging his reputation:

They're damaging ours as well.

I think I may have realized (one of) his biggest flaw(s) in his scope of all this. To him, it's a hobby; as so many have pointed out, it's not real to him. There's no business, no livelihood, no sequential-arts entertainment industry that's been thriving consistently for 50+ years now. Franchises haven't been built upon characters firmly established between the covers of monthly periodicals that spin off into movies, clothing, toys, novels, snack endorsements. Hundreds of thousands of faithful fans don't hang on every word released into public consumption.

Why should there be? After all, it's only a 'hobby'.

And hobbies aren't worth serious consideration. They're just ways to pass the time, things to wile away our spare moments, flights into fancy to drag our attention into realms of imagination. Creators may have a talent, an ability to make these seem real and give their readers a momentary release from their mundane drudgery; but why pay them? It's not real to him.

It seems like he really believes he's providing us a service by giving us a creative outlet as defined by his terms.

His terms define this as a 'hobby'. Therefore, no real effort is being made. We should be thankful he's even looking at our work, let alone offering us genuine-looking contracts.

But when his 'reputation' (such as it is) is brought into question, then it becomes real. His interpretation of the legal system becomes real. Our grave misgivings of his intentions become real assaults and his meltdowns are simply self-defense; our 'attacks' are real, his are justified.

All because this is his love for a 'hobby'.


He does remind me of my ex-shop owners and how they ran their businesss. it's ok to be a fanboy or girl or person, but geeze, have some common business sense.

[EdContradictory]

I think I may have realized (one of) his biggest flaw(s) in his scope of all this. To him, it's a hobby; as so many have pointed out, it's not real to him. There's no business, no livelihood, no sequential-arts entertainment industry that's been thriving consistently for 50+ years now.
Excellent observation.

[Gail Simone]

While I feel awful about the deaths the man has had to weather... the cons weren't cancelled for any reason other than financial ones.

Hard and harsh as it sounds, I can't think of any other cons that have ever shut down for personal reasons. If you can't personally run it, you get someone who can to work it in your place. Every con he cancelled, there were other people depending on it for income.

Frankly, it's awful how he uses the deaths of others to cover his own mistakes.


Rick always needs, I mean it's almost pathological, to be seen as a big wheel in comics, an image that has absolutely no basis in reality and never has had. He constantly wants people to think he has money to spare, and yet, in private letters, he whines as if a hundred measly dollars would put him on the street. Who knows, maybe it would.

It's gross.

Gail

[wishlish]

RICK: I will be back with PROOF Gail Simone lied!

(racing footsteps, front door slams, van of justice starts up, crickets chirping endlessly)


I can't help it. What a loser.

Gail

The van actually works???

[THEDOC]

Man, no "Rick", no new blog that will show us the evils of SPA, ICC and other groups.
So was dinner at Country Buffet?

[Rick Olney]

Give me one, Rick.

Just one.

I have tons of evidence that you lie more than some people blink.

And my story hasn't changed one iota. Yours changes from post to post.

Name one.

Gail

So "Gail" ... You have stated several times on this thread that I have an unpleasing body odor, and that you were discomforted that day back in 2003 at the Mighty Mini-Con during a car ride, and also at the event. That is what you said, correct?

It is a childish sort of personal attack on your part, but it is also a lie.

I believe I've already proven that your memory of riding to Syracuse that Saturday night was incorrect. Mr. Kininger was nice enough to supply me with your email(s) headers intact where you explain to him that you basically just had it in for me and saying that my was stinky, when it was his car that you rode to Syracuse to that night. He took umbrage to your claim, because to the best of his knowledge ... his car had no odor, although after a day at a comics event ... he explained that he may have had a slight scent, which he also said he wasn't aware of.

So lies can be huge or small. This is a small one that you pulled out of your ass, but it is a lie none-the-less.

Note to the community here: I will not be answering a great number of questions here. I clearly understand that a few of you are genuine in your concern for my being forthcoming in paying talents that have worked for my company on publishing projects. I am getting those talents sorted out to be paid. Unfortunately, this message thread has compounded that in some
regard, as certain talents have compromised themselves. I'm sure that as they're paid, they'll share whatever information they can or feel obligated to with you all.

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.

[THEDOC]

Hey he's back!

[wishlish]

OVER THE EDGE, UNCANNY ORIGINS, PROFESSOR XAVIER AND THE X-MEN, UNTOLD TALES OF SPIDER-MAN, AVENGERS UNPLUGGED, FANTASTIC FOUR UNLEASHED...

kdb

I knew there were more books. Just couldn't remember them. And it was FF Unplugged.

Actually, FF Unplugged had some decent stories...

[THEDOC]

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.

Why should we believe you are sincere now. Is your wife helping you write again?

[Matt Doc Martin]

So "Gail" ... You have stated several times on this thread that I have an unpleasing body odor, and that you were discomforted that day back in 2003 at the Mighty Mini-Con during a car ride, and also at the event. That is what you said, correct?

It is a childish sort of personal attack on your part, but it is also a lie.

I believe I've already proven that your memory of riding to Syracuse that Saturday night was incorrect. Mr. Kininger was nice enough to supply me with your email(s) headers intact where you explain to him that you basically just had it in for me and saying that my was stinky, when it was his car that you rode to Syracuse to that night. He took umbrage to your claim, because to the best of his knowledge ... his car had no odor, although after a day at a comics event ... he explained that he may have had a slight scent, which he also said he wasn't aware of.

So lies can be huge or small. This is a small one that you pulled out of your ass, but it is a lie none-the-less.

Note to the community here: I will not be answering a great number of questions here. I clearly understand that a few of you are genuine in your concern for my being forthcoming in paying talents that have worked for my company on publishing projects. I am getting those talents sorted out to be paid. Unfortunately, this message thread has compounded that in some
regard, as certain talents have compromised themselves. I'm sure that as they're paid, they'll share whatever information they can or feel obligated to with you all.

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.

Bite me, doughboy.

[Papergirl]

Give me one, Rick.

Just one.

I have tons of evidence that you lie more than some people blink.

And my story hasn't changed one iota. Yours changes from post to post.

Name one.















Figured.

Gail

So "Gail" ... You have stated several times on this thread that I have an unpleasing body odor, and that you were discomforted that day back in 2003 at the Mighty Mini-Con during a car ride, and also at the event. That is what you said, correct?

It is a childish sort of personal attack on your part, but it is also a lie.

I believe I've already proven that your memory of riding to Syracuse that Saturday night was incorrect. Mr. Kininger was nice enough to supply me with your email(s) headers intact where you explain to him that you basically just had it in for me and saying that my was stinky, when it was his car that you rode to Syracuse to that night. He took umbrage to your claim, because to the best of his knowledge ... his car had no odor, although after a day at a comics event ... he explained that he may have had a slight scent, which he also said he wasn't aware of.

So lies can be huge or small. This is a small one that you pulled out of your ass, but it is a lie none-the-less.

Note to the community here: I will not be answering a great number of questions here. I clearly understand that a few of you are genuine in your concern for my being forthcoming in paying talents that have worked for my company on publishing projects. I am getting those talents sorted out to be paid. Unfortunately, this message thread has compounded that in some
regard, as certain talents have compromised themselves. I'm sure that as they're paid, they'll share whatever information they can or feel obligated to with you all.

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.


Quoted!

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

Rick, if you come back...thanks for answering the few questions you did. You lied about Michael, but that isn't a big shock to me.

I will leave a few more questions for you that you may or may not answer:

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

[THEDOC]

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.

Show your sincerity and pay Tim his money and the others as well. Actions speak louder than words "Rick".

[JKCarrier]

Still no blog, maybe that will never appear like his "evidence" that Gail lied. Oh "Rick".
I just want to see what other Small Press groups he will talk about..Small Press Pavaler where he had a lot of Flame Wars? Maybe Ultrazine, BBP or UFO??

Perhaps he'll talk about his short-lived membership in the Small Press Syndicate. As I recall, he got booted out when his very first column submission featured the same kind of paranoid ranting and threats that we've all become so familiar with.

[JTPencils]

I am getting those talents sorted out to be paid. Unfortunately, this message thread has compounded that in some
regard, as certain talents have compromised themselves.

I'm guessing (and just guessing) that I"m one of the compromised. Though how that's possible (another direct question that peanut can't seem to answer) I have no idea.

If not... then I'm wondering when I'll see said "payment".

So it's direct questions time again...

1) Name and contact information for the lawyer?
2) If I AM one of the "compromised", in what fashion, and how did I attain such "status"?
3) When will you finally man up and pay what you owe to me, and SO many others?
4) How many more "bad accountants", "incompetent mailman", or "paying off previous talents" are you going to blame on this time?

It's quite obvious that my contact information has been misplaced, lost, forgotten about, since I have not heard a single thing from this "person" since the childish retort of last week.

It's a real simple series of questions. Even in your diminished capacity for coherent thought, you should be able to handle that.

Oh, I forgot, you prefaced your usual blathering with... "Note to the community here: I will not be answering a great number of questions here."... translated "I won't answer anything, because I only have a limited list of excuses... you've all heard them before, and know they are the same baseless, tasteless, moronic statements I've used to weasel out of every situation in the past."

[THEDOC]

Perhaps he'll talk about his short-lived membership in the Small Press Syndicate. As I recall, he got booted out when his very first column submission featured the same kind of paranoid ranting and threats that we've all become so familiar with.

I am sure there were conspiricies there as well as other places he has been because we all know "Rick" always acts like a gentleman.

[AaronJ]

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.

Boy, Scott Shaw! really knows his patterns. I'm telling you.

[JamesRitcheyIII]

So "Gail" ... You have stated several times on this thread that I have an unpleasing body odor, and that you were discomforted that day back in 2003 at the Mighty Mini-Con during a car ride, and also at the event. That is what you said, correct?

It is a childish sort of personal attack on your part, but it is also a lie.

I believe I've already proven that your memory of riding to Syracuse that Saturday night was incorrect. Mr. Kininger was nice enough to supply me with your email(s) headers intact where you explain to him that you basically just had it in for me and saying that my was stinky, when it was his car that you rode to Syracuse to that night. He took umbrage to your claim, because to the best of his knowledge ... his car had no odor, although after a day at a comics event ... he explained that he may have had a slight scent, which he also said he wasn't aware of.

So lies can be huge or small. This is a small one that you pulled out of your ass, but it is a lie none-the-less.

Note to the community here: I will not be answering a great number of questions here. I clearly understand that a few of you are genuine in your concern for my being forthcoming in paying talents that have worked for my company on publishing projects. I am getting those talents sorted out to be paid. Unfortunately, this message thread has compounded that in some
regard, as certain talents have compromised themselves. I'm sure that as they're paid, they'll share whatever information they can or feel obligated to with you all.

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.

I can't think of a single question Olney--but I've got an answer for you. Pay the people you owe money to, you paranoid bastard. Except for a little well-deserved ridicule, as far as I can tell, no one here has lied about anything. They would need to--why? Your reality is the same, mutable pile of shit it's always been, and you are an unreliable man, with no respect for people you're not worthy to be in the same universe with.. Just shut the fuck up with the veiled threats, nastiness to women and character assassination, and the Judge will likely just hang you, instead of additionally burying you under the jail. That's a metaphor, by the way--look it up.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Just shut the fuck up with the veiled threats, nastiness to women and character assassination, and the Judge will likely just hang you, instead of additionally burying under the jail.

Forget "veiled"...he has made overt threats here.

I will leave a few more questions for you that you may or may not answer:

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Will you pay them for their LAST appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

[THEDOC]

Forget "veiled"...he has made overt threats here.

I will leave a few more questions for you that you may or may not answer:

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Will you pay them for their LAST appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

He must be conferring with "council" on what he should answer.

[Koben Kelly]

So lies can be huge or small. This is a small one that you pulled out of your ass, but it is a lie none-the-less.


I love the fact he has been accused of non-payment, refusal of payment for work done, making up his life-story, threatening people with frivilous lawsuits, threatening people with thinly veiled violent threats, outright lying, pretending pertinent messages and contacts do not exist, homophobia, racism, and general woman-hating...

and his response is, "LIAR, LIAR, LIAR!! I DO NOT SMELL!!"

Unbelievable.

[AaronJ]

He must be conferring with "council" on what he should answer.

Talking to one's self is not usually a good sign.

[Samuel Catalino]

You know, I read that four times before I got the joke.

Maybe Rick's contagious. :)

Gail

Gail,

I would not wish that infection on anyone.

Best,

Samuel

[Matt Doc Martin]

Forget "veiled"...he has made overt threats here.

I will leave a few more questions for you that you may or may not answer:

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Will you pay them for their LAST appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

He must be conferring with "council" on what he should answer.


Heh. No doubt.

[Papergirl]

Dick,

While I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to come make sure I had more work to do here, could you please cut the bullshit? Just shut up already and pay the people you owe!

Thanks,

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

Dick,

While I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to come make sure I had more work to do here, could you please cut the bullshit? Just shut up already and pay the people you owe!

Thanks,

~Bev

But if you are going to stop by...be productive.
Answer these:

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Will you pay them for their LAST appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

[Draconomicon]

Boy, Scott Shaw! really knows his patterns. I'm telling you.

...thats what I thought :x

[JTPencils]

Here's one for you all to try to figure out.

When the CD (during my brief tenure there) for the now defunct (and hopefully quickly buried) TLE was leaving... he was informed that he couldn't be paid yet because his replacement (Dave Lamphear, as has already been revealed previously in this thread, so I'm not putting out any unknown information) was costing so much money. Ummmmmmmm... how do you pay forward to your next "employee", before you've even made a dime's restitution to the present (or even past) "employee"?

Basically...

"I'd love to pay YOU, but I'm having to spend so much on your replacement, I can't even begin to think of how you're going to collect anything". THEN to find out he hasn't paid the new guy anything either. I'm guessing that HIS replacement's gonna be even bigger bucks!!!

[NatGertler]

I am getting those talents sorted out to be paid. Unfortunately, this message thread has compounded that in some
regard, as certain talents have compromised themselves.No, ''Rick'', that someone says something you don't like does not mean that you have a right to delay paying them money due. That someone asks you for the name of your lawyer does not mean that you don't have to pay them the money due. Really.

[Rick Olney]

I honestly think, at this point, the very best revenge we can get is to make him sit there and watch the new alliances and friendships and creative teams and partnerships that have come out of all of this.

That knowledge just HAS to be eating him alive.

~Bev

It actually doesn't bother me at all. You should have figured that all out for yourselves by now.

[Rick Olney]

Just a funny musing; if TOTS had actually come out, it would now be a valuable collectors item, and in demand for who-knows-what-prices, because of this controversy. Then... maybe if there were a few hundred copies in boxes in storage, those could then be sold to pay the people owed... a trickle on eBay, some in stores....

One of Dixon's Laws:
People don't buy what you MIGHT have written, or what you MIGHT have drawn. People are affected by a physical product they can hold, consider, learn from and feel good about. Make it complete and get it into peoples' possession. Don't talk about what you may do, versus actually presenting a finished object; do something.

TOTS will be out later this year for the fall horror season. You'll be able to buy it online.

[THEDOC]

It actually doesn't bother me at all. You should have figured that all out for yourselves by now.

That you live in your own universe? Yeah we figured THAT out a long time ago.
Pay Tim his money!

[Gail Simone]

So "Gail" ... You have stated several times on this thread that I have an unpleasing body odor, and that you were discomforted that day back in 2003 at the Mighty Mini-Con during a car ride, and also at the event. That is what you said, correct?

It is a childish sort of personal attack on your part, but it is also a lie.

I believe I've already proven that your memory of riding to Syracuse that Saturday night was incorrect. Mr. Kininger was nice enough to supply me with your email(s) headers intact where you explain to him that you basically just had it in for me and saying that my was stinky, when it was his car that you rode to Syracuse to that night. He took umbrage to your claim, because to the best of his knowledge ... his car had no odor, although after a day at a comics event ... he explained that he may have had a slight scent, which he also said he wasn't aware of.

So lies can be huge or small. This is a small one that you pulled out of your ass, but it is a lie none-the-less.

Note to the community here: I will not be answering a great number of questions here. I clearly understand that a few of you are genuine in your concern for my being forthcoming in paying talents that have worked for my company on publishing projects. I am getting those talents sorted out to be paid. Unfortunately, this message thread has compounded that in some
regard, as certain talents have compromised themselves. I'm sure that as they're paid, they'll share whatever information they can or feel obligated to with you all.

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.


Wow, Rick!

Great job, except....NO.

I said REPEATEDLY that it was not the trip from Syracuse that I was talking about. And feel free to ask others who attended about your B.O., it was the topic of much conversation.

Again, my story hasn't changed an iota. Why? Because it's TRUE.

And yes, you tried to make it sound like I was talking about Dennis. Just as you tried to make it sound like my complaints about your unbelievably shitty pr writing were actually aimed at Ronee. As I've said many times, there's no friend you won't throw under the bus.



"headers intact where you explain to him that you basically just had it in for me "

Really? Prove it. I saved my letters to Dennis too, and I said no such thing. I said you smelled because, Rick, YOU STANK. Maybe it was stress, maybe it was the work YOU YOURSELF said you had to do, moving tables or whatever. But you reeked, you stank, you smelled, you had da funk, I don't know how else to put it. My husband constantly put himself gallantly between you and myself so I wouldn't be too close (I have allergies). The one time I remember sitting right next to you was when you came and sat down by us and treated those cosplay girls so horribly. It was outside, and you still stunk it up.

You keep pretending I said you drove us from Syracuse. When did I say that, Rick? Find it for me.

Let me help you with this. When you open your mouth? That's a lie.

When someone says what actually happened and their story never changes one iota? That's the truth.

Is this the best you have? A made-up quote that never happened about an incident you have repeatedly misportrayed?

I'm assuming this means you admit everything else I've said is true, including the fact that you never paid my full airfare, never reimbursed me for my other expenses, never paid a dime on my husband's airfare despire your claims in this very thread to the contrary, on and on and on.

Once again, you're an empty gun.

So, the TRUTH:

1) I NEVER said it was the car ride from Syracuse. I have repeatedly said that the car ride with Dennis was pleasant, informative, and non-smelly. Your constant efforts to pretend I said this make you look even more like a foolish monkey.

2) You stank. Lots of people who were there commented on it. It made you even less pleasant to be around. I will say this, if you were moving tables, reeking as you did is perfectly understandable. You don't need to keep pretending, because sweat from honest labor isn't shameful. You could've gone to shower or something, though, for your guests' comfort.

3) Prove I said anything like what you're claiming I did. And again, i have the emails too, Rick.


Zero for three. Not even a good try.



Gail, obviously a token

[Matt Doc Martin]

It actually doesn't bother me at all. You should have figured that all out for yourselves by now.

Do these unanswered questions bother you? (easily answered by you, btw, if you take all of 2 minutes)

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Will you pay them for their LAST appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

[Rick Olney]

I wonder how pissed he is I've got JT on a project. Now there's no room for him to get ol Jim back on the Monster Squad!!! :p

I'm noy upset at all, Danny. JT was actually too slow in turning out actual pages, and was replaced for that reason after the new creative director made a few suggestions that he wanted to see implimented. Great artist, but very slow. ..or at least unable to be consistent. Not a critical point, just my opinion.

[Gail Simone]

Oh, and by the way, Rick?

If you have to make up facts (like Dennis' mail) to make your point, it's not really much of a point, now, is it?

Gail

[JTPencils]

It actually doesn't bother me at all. You should have figured that all out for yourselves by now.

Notice how he can and will respond to the least important questions or statements, yet the more direct (and pertinent) one's get ignored completely??

Amazing... absolutely amazing.

The sad part is, he would probably do quite well in the political arena. If his name weren't already akin to sludge to those in and out of the comic's community.

[Papergirl]

I honestly think, at this point, the very best revenge we can get is to make him sit there and watch the new alliances and friendships and creative teams and partnerships that have come out of all of this.

That knowledge just HAS to be eating him alive.

~Bev

It actually doesn't bother me at all. You should have figured that all out for yourselves by now.


Quoted!

~Bev

[Papergirl]

Just a funny musing; if TOTS had actually come out, it would now be a valuable collectors item, and in demand for who-knows-what-prices, because of this controversy. Then... maybe if there were a few hundred copies in boxes in storage, those could then be sold to pay the people owed... a trickle on eBay, some in stores....

One of Dixon's Laws:
People don't buy what you MIGHT have written, or what you MIGHT have drawn. People are affected by a physical product they can hold, consider, learn from and feel good about. Make it complete and get it into peoples' possession. Don't talk about what you may do, versus actually presenting a finished object; do something.

TOTS will be out later this year for the fall horror season. You'll be able to buy it online.


Quoted!

~Bev

[Papergirl]

I wonder how pissed he is I've got JT on a project. Now there's no room for him to get ol Jim back on the Monster Squad!!! :p

I'm noy upset at all, Danny. JT was actually too slow in turning out actual pages, and was replaced for that reason after the new creative director made a few suggestions that he wanted to see implimented. Great artist, but very slow. ..or at least unable to be consistent. Not a critical point, just my opinion.


Quoted!

~Bev

[Gail Simone]

It actually doesn't bother me at all. You should have figured that all out for yourselves by now.

You're such a liar, Rick.

You've gone all over the net deleting your posts, you hassled a poor nice guy who made a mere comment about you on a message board, actually CALLING the poor guy and acting like a crazy man, you've lost your mind repeatedly here, AND you've managed to spread more of your stupid bigoted anti-English rants here over and over. You've made threat after threat that you don't have the guts, evidence, or money to back up.

I wonder if you'd explode if you ever told the truth?

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

TOTS will be out later this year for the fall horror season. You'll be able to buy it online.

YOu will not be able to get any shops to carry it?


AND!

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Will you pay them for their LAST appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

[JTPencils]

I'm noy upset at all, Danny. JT was actually too slow in turning out actual pages, and was replaced for that reason after the new creative director made a few suggestions that he wanted to see implimented. Great artist, but very slow. ..or at least unable to be consistent. Not a critical point, just my opinion.

Actually, I wasn't turning out ANY more pages. Why would I continue to produce work when I hadn't been paid for what I had already done. And mind you, done in the time allotment given. (Remember that big rush/push for your F3 "Bin Laden" cover Rick? Rush rush job, and yet it STILL got to you when you needed it). So it wasn't a matter of speed (though I will admit, I'm no Jack Kirby in the speed department)... it was a matter of waking up and realizing that I wasn't going to see a dime for anything. So why continue? BTW... I wasn't "replaced"... I had turned in my resignation when I saw the cash flow was dammed up in Herkimer.. and was then told I couldn't quite because I was fired. "replaced" makes it sound benevolent... it wasn't, I was pissed.

[THEDOC]

Actually, I wasn't turning out ANY more pages. Why would I continue to produce work when I hadn't been paid for what I had already done. And mind you, done in the time allotment given. (Remember that big rush/push for your F3 "Bin Laden" cover Rick? Rush rush job, and yet it STILL got to you when you needed it). So it wasn't a matter of speed (though I will admit, I'm no Jack Kirby in the speed department)... it was a matter of waking up and realizing that I wasn't going to see a dime for anything. So why continue?

Who was the new creative director?

[Koben Kelly]

TOTS will be out later this year for the fall horror season. You'll be able to buy it online...

...because no retailer will carry it (when and IF it ever comes out).

[colleen]

YOu will not be able to get any shops to carry it?


AND!

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Will you pay them for their LAST appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

When he says "It will be available online", you can pretty much bet he is not intending to go through retailers.

Consider print on demand.


c

[JTPencils]

Who was the new creative director?

Doc, when I was there, Jeff Austin was the CD (as well as doing inking duties for most of the projects up to that time, finishing character sheets, covers, promotional materials), and Dave Lamphear was being brought in to replace him.

Awww crap. I probably just re"compromised" myself... didn't I!?! Revealing the "screwed talent list" was probably in the NDA... lemme go into my trash can and see if I just opened myself up to a whole new lawsuit.

[Gail Simone]

Again, who cares what he says here?

Tightlip? Dissolved. Nearly everyone involved has been cheated, lied to and threatened. A huge embarrassment and a blot on the industry. Story after story of people who will never be paid, and more Olney bullshit about how it'll be different in the future. Yeah, right.

Orca? People keep coming forward to say what a lousy 'service' it was, and how many promises were broken, and how it existed completely to feed Rick's bizarre ego. Dead. No one will ever donate anything to a club with a bigoted lunatic involved, especially when he lies about its non-profit status and harrasses members when they don't hate the same creators he hates.

Mighty Mini Con? Dead. Dead by Rick's incompetence and lack of finances. Who would go? If you google Rick's name, it's an endless line of links talking about what an incompetent deadbeat he's been. No one has ANYTHING good to say about him. Of course, he'll just cancel the next one, like the last several, anyway.


So what difference does it make if he posts denials here? He's done, everyone knows it.

The industry won't miss him or his ilk.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Actually, I wasn't turning out ANY more pages. Why would I continue to produce work when I hadn't been paid for what I had already done. And mind you, done in the time allotment given. (Remember that big rush/push for your F3 "Bin Laden" cover Rick? Rush rush job, and yet it STILL got to you when you needed it). So it wasn't a matter of speed (though I will admit, I'm no Jack Kirby in the speed department)... it was a matter of waking up and realizing that I wasn't going to see a dime for anything. So why continue? BTW... I wasn't "replaced"... I had turned in my resignation when I saw the cash flow was dammed up in Herkimer.. and was then told I couldn't quite because I was fired. "replaced" makes it sound benevolent... it wasn't, I was pissed.

Rick's got a bullshit excuse for everyone he's cheated.

No one believes a word he says, trust me.

Gail

[Papergirl]

Heh. Peanut is getting slow. Not only is everything quoted so far, but I got the screen caps uploaded, too!

~Bev

[Gail Simone]

When he says "It will be available online", you can pretty much bet he is not intending to go through retailers.

Consider print on demand.


c

Colleen, I just sent you an email but it might be an old address...did you get it?

Gail

[Rick Olney]

Oh, I am sooooooooooooooooooooo waiting for that small press blog. I mean, he washed his hands of our 'clique' mentality; what else could he have to say except how horrible we all are?

And I know from talking to my colleagues there can't be more than a couple -- not couple dozen, just a couple -- of small press creators who can even hear his name without some sort of gag reflex taking command.

Plus he's gonna knock down the ICC. Wonder how many times he's gonna take credit for how I changed it from a SPA challenger to a construct for cross-promotional endeavors.

Why would I knock the ICC? As you of all people are aware, I actually created the concept and framework of the ICC. You simply created the logo that replaced the logo that our first third party originally did...before he dropped out. I have a legal claim and proof to "Independent Creators Coalition" by the way, but I doubt I'd challenge you on any aspect of it ... as I want to see it grow into something positive and cross-promotional.

You're welcome to get kissy-face with Shires or anyone else that you railed on over the last few years too. I don't care. I did, and will continue to do, what I've done for small press creators right along. We provide FREE table space at the Mighty Mini-Con and any other conjoined effort. Seriously, I'm glad it took you getting pissed at me to get off your dead ass and be creative again. Wish you and Daphne nothing but the best. Oh, and your sweetie's report about the local DA here was bullshit. Sorry to burst that bubble.

[Gail Simone]

You know, we demolished his "rick Olie" bullshit with just a few contacts. It's utterly untrue.

He's been claiming credit for the Bridges program for a long time, and I'm friends with at least five people who worked right at the CrossGen compound.

We'll find out if this is more Olney wish fulfillment.

Gail

[colleen]

Colleen, I just sent you an email but it might be an old address...did you get it?

Gail


Yep! I got it!

Whoopie!


c

[Sarah Beach]

You know what, Rick? If you haven't paid the talents on TOTS#1 yet, you can't publish it!!

If nothing else, I KNOW that Chuck will not allow his work, and that of his artists to be published by you unless they have been paid in full.

And golly gee, if you've FINALLY paid Chuck, that would be big, big news, which I'm sure he'd be happy to mention to Rich Johnston, and other columns, and to his friends (including his message board moderator!). But guess what? No such news going around.

Unless, what you're planning on publishing "for the fall horror season" is NOT all the material previously designated as TOTS#1, but rather material by those unnamed (by you) talents you said were lined up for the previously designated TOTS#2.

[Papergirl]

Oh, I am sooooooooooooooooooooo waiting for that small press blog. I mean, he washed his hands of our 'clique' mentality; what else could he have to say except how horrible we all are?

And I know from talking to my colleagues there can't be more than a couple -- not couple dozen, just a couple -- of small press creators who can even hear his name without some sort of gag reflex taking command.

Plus he's gonna knock down the ICC. Wonder how many times he's gonna take credit for how I changed it from a SPA challenger to a construct for cross-promotional endeavors.

Why would I knock the ICC? As you of all people are aware, I actually created the concept and framework of the ICC. You simply created the logo that replaced the logo that our first third party originally did...before he dropped out. I have a legal claim and proof to "Independent Creators Coalition" by the way, but I doubt I'd challenge you on any aspect of it ... as I want to see it grow into something positive and cross-promotional.

You're welcome to get kissy-face with Shires or anyone else that you railed on over the last few years too. I don't care. I did, and will continue to do, what I've done for small press creators right along. We provide FREE table space at the Mighty Mini-Con and any other conjoined effort. Seriously, I'm glad it took you getting pissed at me to get off your dead ass and be creative again. Wish you and Daphne nothing but the best. Oh, and your sweetie's report about the local DA here was bullshit. Sorry to burst that bubble.

Quoted!

~Bev

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

"Dementia 13" absolutely rules, and I've only met like two people who have ever seen it.

I love it. Head rolling fun.

[Gail Simone]

The facts are still these:

Rick cheats almost everyone he's ever promised money to in this industry. He then lies about it. Then he blames the victims. Then he threatens them.

All the rest is just Olney sidetracking desperately.

He's a liar, a cheat, a deadbeat, a bully, a fraud, and a hack.

And Rick?

Everyone knows it. Your name is lower than dirt in this industry.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

I love it. Head rolling fun.

What IS it?

Gail

[JTPencils]

I did, and will continue to do, what I've done for small press creators right along.

Translation for the Olnyese impaired...

"I will continue to promise, screw, lie to, threaten, delay, bullshit, apologize.... repeat."

I think in some small way, we're finally getting the mental midget to tell the truth...

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

I just want to say everybody here who is arguing about Klingons are complete geeks and have no place on a forum about comic books.

Thank you for your attention.

Oh you don't think I can't do the same with comics? [Evil Laugh]Bwah Ha Ha Ha[/Evil Laugh]

[Gail Simone]

the new OCRA NRA logo:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/dodobird.png

Thank god the internet isn't scratch n' sniff!

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:40:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Gail Simone" <gail@gailsimone.com> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: your mail LAST RESPONSE
To: "Rick Olney of TightLip Entertainment" <orcafresh@att.net>, "Gail Simone" <gail@gailsimone.com>

I'm not going to argue with you, Rick.

Frankly, two years of broken promises and weird
behavior from you is plenty.

'Veiled threat?' No. But if a friend of mine asks
what my experience was like, I will absolutely tell
them, and I'll add that it took TWO YEARS to get
reimbursed and only then because I gave up on the
final promised amount. Thankfully, in the law, truth
is the ultimate defense.

I don't care what your reasoning is. Most of this
happened BEFORE you had a heart attack, which of
course is news to me.

You asked me to come as a guest, promised much that
you didn't deliver, and I still didn't complain. Why?
Because I felt sorry for you. The fact is, Rick, I
HELD UP EVERY BIT OF MY END. I showed up, on time (you
guys were very late), I turned in my expenses, and
paid for my airfare and meals, and while others played
outside on the lawn, I stayed in my area because I
said I would. You want to make yourself look even
worse by trying to act wounded, that's your business.
Yes, I was more polite about it than I should have
been, but at that time, I thought you were
well-meaning but horribly organized. Now I believe
it's more than that.

To top it off, now you're saying I hadn't shown up at
your message board in a year, even though I have
emails from you as late as October, promising (as
usual) to pay this amount. I waited over and over
again while you took care of other, newer con
expenses. I think your right to pretend to be the
victim here is well past gone. You said you lost my
email, but you know full well that I have a board at
CBR.


Don't send me a check, and lose my email address
again, please. There's no 'fixing' two years of broken
promises and bad faith, and yes, I hope the next batch
of 'guests' fare better than we did.

Gail

[Rick Olney]

You know, last night it sorta hit me what Rick's life must be like now.

He's failed at everything. Tightlip is dissolved, Orca is disbanded, the Mighty Shitty con is disgraced. I mean, three for three, complete failure.

Well, you're wrong on many counts again. Does this all constitute a lie?

Calling my event a "shitty" con is just another of your specific targeted slights. It has been noted. ORCA never completely disbanded. TightLip Entertainment isn't dissolved. Where do you reach for these lies?

But on top of that, the pattern of utter dishonesty and betrayal of even close friends that's gone on for years and years and has held together only through fake, meaningless threats he never follows through on, that's all finally coming out in to the open as literally dozens of people come forth with remarkably similar stories.

"Gail" it will be my pleasure to watch and make note of how people perceive you long after you've learned your lesson of attacking real people online. Your goals are obvious in the legal sense. You're even stooping lower hoping to draw attention to yourself. "What's good for the goose is good for the gander."


I honestly wonder what it's like to have convinced yourself that you're actually a big wheeler dealer, beloved by all, with actual 'fans,' and then to wake up and find out that people are comparing notes and the tissue of lies falls to pieces, and you're exposed as a fake, a liar, a bumbler, a hack, a betrayer, a deadbeat, a bully, and an incompetent?

I think that'd be rough on anyone with conscience. Add to that, no friend at all who will defend him in the slightest, in fact, most of his former friends seem to be right here in this thread nodding in agreement as the list of his lies is trotted out.

Yes, you've done a job on me, have you not? The real world calls that defamation of character. While, you may be able to prove that I'm not perfect -- it in no way makes up or out distances what you've done in libel and slander towards me. I would also hope that any impending displacement won't be too upsetting in your personal real life. These are not threats, nor made in a threatening tone. I'm just sure that you're not smart enough to know better.

[Paul D. Storrie]

I just want to say everybody here who is arguing about Klingons are complete geeks and have no place on a forum about comic books.

Thank you for your attention.

IDW has just announced a new comic featuring Klingons. Therefore, Klingons have a definite place in a forum about comic books.

Ha! I run rings around you logically.

PDS

[Papergirl]

You know, last night it sorta hit me what Rick's life must be like now.

He's failed at everything. Tightlip is dissolved, Orca is disbanded, the Mighty Shitty con is disgraced. I mean, three for three, complete failure.

But on top of that, the pattern of utter dishonesty and betrayal of even close friends that's gone on for years and years and has held together only through fake, meaningless threats he never follows through on, that's all finally coming out in to the open as literally dozens of people come forth with remarkably similar stories.

"The check's in the mail."

"I lost your contact information."

"I had to leave the internet for a while."

Same tired excuses, used over and over again. He might as well have used a form letter.

I honestly wonder what it's like to have convinced yourself that you're actually a big wheeler dealer, beloved by all, with actual 'fans,' and then to wake up and find out that people are comparing notes and the tissue of lies falls to pieces, and you're exposed as a fake, a liar, a bumbler, a hack, a betrayer, a deadbeat, a bully, and an incompetent?

I think that'd be rough on anyone with conscience. Add to that, no friend at all who will defend him in the slightest, in fact, most of his former friends seem to be right here in this thread nodding in agreement as the list of his lies is trotted out.

Rick's probably fine, though, as I don't think anyone with a conscience could treat friends that way.

Gail

Well, you're wrong on many counts again. Does this all constitute a lie?

Calling my event a "shitty" con is just another of your specific targeted slights. It has been noted. ORCA never completely disbanded. TightLip Entertainment isn't dissolved. Where do you reach for these lies?



"Gail" it will be my pleasure to watch and make note of how people perceive you long after you've learned your lesson of attacking real people online. Your goals are obvious in the legal sense. You're even stooping lower hoping to draw attention to yourself. "What's good for the goose is good for the gander."




Yes, you've done a job on me, have you not? The real world calls that defamation of character. While, you may be able to prove that I'm not perfect -- it in no way makes up or out distances what you've done in libel and slander towards me. I would also hope that any impending displacement won't be too upsetting in your personal real life. These are not threats, nor made in a threatening tone. I'm just sure that you're not smart enough to know better.

Quoted!

~Bev

[AaronJ]

What IS it?

Gail

A really fun, moody, slightly off-kilter horror movie. It was directed by Francis Ford Coppola (I *think* it was his first movie, not including porn).

I love it. But hardly anyone has seen it, it seems.

[Gail Simone]

I found what I said in my email to Dennis. Oddly, it doesn't match Rick's bullshit at all! It matches exactly what I've said all along and haven't altered in the slightest!

" What it was was that the day of the con, Rick had
> > terrible bo, bad enough that my husband
> > intentionally would sit next to him so I wouldn't
> > have to. And the one brief ride we took with Rick,
> > our clothes came out STINKING. Maybe he was
> > stressed, but several people mentioned it.
> >
"

[Sarah Beach]

Why would I knock the ICC? As you of all people are aware, I actually created the concept and framework of the ICC. You simply created the logo that replaced the logo that our first third party originally did...before he dropped out. I have a legal claim and proof to "Independent Creators Coalition" by the way, but I doubt I'd challenge you on any aspect of it ... as I want to see it grow into something positive and cross-promotional.

You're welcome to get kissy-face with Shires or anyone else that you railed on over the last few years too. I don't care. I did, and will continue to do, what I've done for small press creators right along. We provide FREE table space at the Mighty Mini-Con and any other conjoined effort. Seriously, I'm glad it took you getting pissed at me to get off your dead ass and be creative again. Wish you and Daphne nothing but the best. Oh, and your sweetie's report about the local DA here was bullshit. Sorry to burst that bubble.

I can see it now: Tim will totally remake ICC, and Rick will still claim credit for it, because he used to be involved with a previous entity version that had the same name. Typical.

And Tim "railing at" Ian or anyone else, saying this as if DocAbsurd is some sort of hypocrite now? What a laugh, Tim himself has said many times in this thread how much he regrets that period, since he was doing it under Rick's influence - which he now knows to have been twisted and toxic. And has said so.

"It took you getting pissed at me to get off your dead ass and be creative again." What a laugh! The fact that it was Rick's toxic presence that was cramping his style gets ignored. RO is an anti-creativity presence! And for the record, peanut, Tim is very talented, and on his worst day can do far better than you could ever dream of doing on your own.

As for the Absurds' lawyer: guess what? Their credibility is far higher than yours. Plus Daphne was perfectly willing to give the lawyer's name, and the name of his firm -- unlike a certain other person who has been asked and asked for such information for his lawyer's contact info, by people who have legal cause to have it.

peanut.

[the4thpip]

I found a bunch of comics that were still somehow residing with my mom. I had a lot of classics in there, but the one that had me beaming was the signed issue of Blood Syndicate that ChrisCross put his autograph on at a now-out-of-business comic shop in Menlo Park Mall (in central NJ).

Ooh, I have an issue of Static signed by Dwayne McD because I once made "Letter of the Month".

[Koben Kelly]

A really fun, moody, slightly off-kilter horror movie. It was directed by Francis Ford Coppola (I *think* it was his first movie, not including porn).

I love it. But hardly anyone has seen it, it seems.

I own it.

It's even featured in a song by Pop Will Eat Itself called P.W.E.I.-zation.

I watch it every Halloween along with several other creepy horror classics.

[Rick Olney]

I think Doc Absurd said that he got the contracts from a book. So he didn't even hire a lawyer, he just copied and pasted.

God, I hope he gets sued.

The contracts didn't come from a book. They were generated by me and then gone over and edited by an attorney, as was the NDA which indicatesspecifically what and what can't be taled about by the 'talent' without a written release from my company. The contract likewise has several clauses that cover specific areas regarding 'talents' rights and responsibilities. Has anyone seen a copy of a contract? Not everyone that has claimed to have been under contract was. Please add this to your compendium. Thank you.

[Comcman]

IDW has just announced a new comic featuring Klingons. Therefore, Klingons have a definite place in a forum about comic books.

Ha! I run rings around you logically.

PDS

Intercourse the Penguin!

(Sorry, obscure Monty Python reference)

[Papergirl]

I think Doc Absurd said that he got the contracts from a book. So he didn't even hire a lawyer, he just copied and pasted.

God, I hope he gets sued.

And in case no one's said it to you today, Colleen, thanks for all the great legal advice. I really hope the creators here are taking it to heart. I've read your blog about your early career and the scumbags who tried to take advantage of you, and I'm glad you didn't let that stop you. Comic fans are damn lucky to have you.

The contracts didn't come from a book. They were generated by me and then gone over and edited by an attorney, as was the NDA which indicatesspecifically what and what can't be taled about by the 'talent' without a written release from my company. The contract likewise has several clauses that cover specific areas regarding 'talents' rights and responsibilities. Has anyone seen a copy of a contract? Not everyone that has claimed to have been under contract was. Please add this to your compendium. Thank you.

Quoted!

~Bev

[Rick Olney]

That and litigation if they tell people they don't like you.

Ugly is, as ugly does, Blake. I can only assume that you think that because "Gail" has her writer buddies posting here that weighing in and being insulting will somehow help your career? Ummm... no. Remain as professional as those 'talents' that have not allowed themselves to be sucked into this thread ... because they have lives, sense, and they're their own people...not easily swayed by hatred, attention, or bully tactics.

[Gail Simone]

"Well, you're wrong on many counts again. Does this all constitute a lie? "

Well, I know you're vocabulary-challenged, but no, they are 'opinions' based on 'facts.' Look those words up and get back to me.

"Calling my event a "shitty" con is just another of your specific targeted slights."

Duh. It was definitely the lousiest, most incompetent, most amateur event I've ever attended by a factor of thousands. Many who went agree. By the way, 'specific targeted slights' is an utterly meaningless phrase. You SURE you want to be a writer? You're not good at it. Here's another word to look up, 'vapid.'




"It has been noted. ORCA never completely disbanded. TightLip Entertainment isn't dissolved. Where do you reach for these lies?"

Orca's a joke, has been for years, and had no influence on anything even at its 'height.' Eddie told a very interesting story of what a dysfunctional empty suit it was during its supposed heyday. You yourself keep claiming its coming back, but the website is a virtual barren wasteland and there's been no actual activity for quite some time, by your own admission.

Tightlip Entertainment was dissolved as a business in the legal sense very recently. Do you deny that?



""Gail" it will be my pleasure to watch and make note of how people perceive you long after you've learned your lesson of attacking real people online. Your goals are obvious in the legal sense. You're even stooping lower hoping to draw attention to yourself. "What's good for the goose is good for the gander." "

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the people will rise up in their love for a lying, bigoted, deadbeat hack who cheated some of the nicest people in the industry. It's nice to have delusions, Rick, but they rarely reflect reality. I don't need or want this attention. I want people to know what you've done and what you're truly like...a man who keeps no promises, who cheats even close friends, and doesn't care about the suffering he causes.

In other words, an Olney.

"es, you've done a job on me, have you not? The real world calls that defamation of character. "

Not if it's true, it doesn't.

"While, you may be able to prove that I'm not perfect "

No, what I can prove is that you're a lying cheat, and a thief of people's time, work and talent.


"-- it in no way makes up or out distances what you've done in libel and slander towards me. I would also hope that any impending displacement won't be too upsetting in your personal real life. These are not threats, nor made in a threatening tone. I'm just sure that you're not smart enough to know better."

Well, sure it's a threat. But who cares? You don't scare me, never have, and I'm frankly amused that anyone EVER falls for your bullshit scary act. It's like being threatened by a noisy yap dog with no teeth.

You've cheated dozens of people and left a paper trail of lies, threats, and con jobs that goes back years. I'm not only not afraid of you, I'm telling you right now to bring it on, Rick. I have evidence that could likely put you in JAIL.

Bring. It. On.

Gail

[sk716]

. . .

color me curious.

Totally out of "curious" Danny, how's about we just color ya "jaded" instead?

. . .

Howy, if this exchange doesn't make it into a digest I will never forgive you.

[Papergirl]

That and litigation if they tell people they don't like you.

Ugly is, as ugly does, Blake. I can only assume that you think that because "Gail" has her writer buddies posting here that weighing in and being insulting will somehow help your career? Ummm... no. Remain as professional as those 'talents' that have not allowed themselves to be sucked into this thread ... because they have lives, sense, and they're their own people...not easily swayed by hatred, attention, or bully tactics.

Quoted!

~Bev

[TCJohnson]

IDW has just announced a new comic featuring Klingons. Therefore, Klingons have a definite place in a forum about comic books.

Ha! I run rings around you logically.

PDS

Only geeks use logic, geek-boy! ;)

[TCJohnson]

Ooh, I have an issue of Static signed by Dwayne McD because I once made "Letter of the Month".

For some odd reason that really impresses me.

[Gail Simone]

Hey, Rick!

Show me where, in Dennis' letter, it says that I made up your B.O. just because I had it in for you.

Come on, you JUST said it a few posts back. Show it! By all means, prove your point!

Gail

[Gail Simone]

For some odd reason that really impresses me.

I named my dog after Static!

Gail

[Rick Olney]

I'm starting to think that Olney did have supper, then refused to pay the restuarant.

He's still there washing dishes.

Nice. And what your hard luck story, wannbe? So starved for attention that you need somebody to hate to give your life substance? Sad, Jamie... Changed my opinion of you that I've held all these years. One of "Gail's" fanbot groupies now? :rolleyes:

[Gail Simone]

Ugly is, as ugly does, Blake. I can only assume that you think that because "Gail" has her writer buddies posting here that weighing in and being insulting will somehow help your career? Ummm... no. Remain as professional as those 'talents' that have not allowed themselves to be sucked into this thread ... because they have lives, sense, and they're their own people...not easily swayed by hatred, attention, or bully tactics.


Like you threatening the people you've cheated, Rick?

Like making gay-bashing comments about Mark Waid?

Like calling Joanne Mutch a 'douche bag' and a 'sick bitch?'

And a lot of those talents who haven't come forward, Rick?

They're emailing us. I have DOZENS of your bullshit letters to them.

Don't think because they haven't shown up here that they don't DESPISE you, for your lying and cheating.

Gail

[Papergirl]

I'm starting to think that Olney did have supper, then refused to pay the restuarant.

He's still there washing dishes.

Nice. And what your hard luck story, wannbe? So starved for attention that you need somebody to hate to give your life substance? Sad, Jamie... Changed my opinion of you that I've held all these years. One of "Gail's" fanbot groupies now? :rolleyes:

Quoted AND screen capped!

~Bev

[Paul D. Storrie]

On the matter of personal attacks towards me here: Personal attacks should stop now. And I state this with the utmost respect for how you've each and all become wiped up into a lather by ANY my earlier posts. In fact, I'm apologizing now to this group for my less than honorable responses here. I'm sorry. I can only hope that as creators are paid their due, that you'll each find that place within yourselves to forgive me. Thank you.

Do you consider "jackass" a personal attack? Because that's what you're being. As such, I see it as more of an accurate description than a personal attack.

You've played this game before in this thread. First you insult. Then you apologize and try to claim the moral high ground. Strangely, you always -- always -- come back to insults again.

Your request for absolution is absurd. Why on Earth would anyone forgive you when you're still doing what you're asking people to forgive you for?

I hope that what a few others have suggested in this thread ends up happening -- that you become an object lesson to other people in and around this industry who try to get by on empty promises and intimidation.

Oh, and for the record: Would you care to share with us the number of legal complaints against you for which you've been served so far?

PDS

[TCJohnson]

The contracts didn't come from a book. They were generated by me and then gone over and edited by an attorney, as was the NDA which indicatesspecifically what and what can't be taled about by the 'talent' without a written release from my company. The contract likewise has several clauses that cover specific areas regarding 'talents' rights and responsibilities. Has anyone seen a copy of a contract? Not everyone that has claimed to have been under contract was. Please add this to your compendium. Thank you.

Anybody notice that when he makes stuff up, his grammar and spelling becomes worse and worse?

[Michael P]

This is the thread that never ends
It just goes on and on my friends
Some people started posting it
Not knowing what it was
And they'll continue posting it
Forever just because
This is the thread that never ends
It just goes on and on my friends...

[Paul D. Storrie]

Intercourse the Penguin!

(Sorry, obscure Monty Python reference)

And here I thought I was being obscure with "I run rings around you logically!"

PDS

[JTPencils]

Howy, if this exchange doesn't make it into a digest I will never forgive you.

I'm to be quoted in a digest? Cool! Ummmmm... where?

[NatGertler]

Yes, you've done a job on me, have you not?Actually, ''Rick'', the real job done to you has been done by yourself. You're the one who has repeatedly threatened people, who has announced publicly that you owe monies that you have not paid and intend not to pay until the person you owe does something more for you, who has lied and failed to keep your word in visible, obvious, and verifiable ways, who has posted bigoted messages, and so forth.

Stop celebrating your victimhood and pay the people whom you owe.

[Gail Simone]

Nice. And what your hard luck story, wannbe? So starved for attention that you need somebody to hate to give your life substance? Sad, Jamie... Changed my opinion of you that I've held all these years. One of "Gail's" fanbot groupies now? :rolleyes:

For Christ's sake, would you please edit your insults before posting them, so that they're in English? Grammar and spelling are wonderful things, you might consider using some.

And contrary to what you think, Rick, most people hate you because you're a liar and a cheat. That's reason enough, don't you find?

Gail

[THEDOC]

Why would I knock the ICC? As you of all people are aware, I actually created the concept and framework of the ICC. You simply created the logo that replaced the logo that our first third party originally did...before he dropped out. I have a legal claim and proof to "Independent Creators Coalition" by the way, but I doubt I'd challenge you on any aspect of it ... as I want to see it grow into something positive and cross-promotional.

You're welcome to get kissy-face with Shires or anyone else that you railed on over the last few years too. I don't care. I did, and will continue to do, what I've done for small press creators right along. We provide FREE table space at the Mighty Mini-Con and any other conjoined effort. Seriously, I'm glad it took you getting pissed at me to get off your dead ass and be creative again. Wish you and Daphne nothing but the best. Oh, and your sweetie's report about the local DA here was bullshit. Sorry to burst that bubble.


It's Tim's andyou know it you said so yourself in an earlier post.
Free tables are only good if there is a con being held.

[Rick Olney]

Welcome to the party, Cross. Glad you managed to dodge the Olney bullet, but it sucks that you've got someone else giving you the runaround now.

My only 'Olney' question is -- Did Ronee hook you up with that job too? Sorry to hear that you're onhold with that company.

[TCJohnson]

I'm to be quoted in a digest? Cool! Ummmmm... where?

Every once in a while Howyadoin will gather the funniest quotes in the past week or so and put them into one large post.

[the4thpip]

Hey he's back!

Really?
Going by substance, how can you tell?

[Papergirl]

For Christ's sake, would you please edit your insults before posting them, so that they're in English? Grammar and spelling are wonderful things, you might consider using some.

And contrary to what you think, Rick, most people hate you because you're a liar and a cheat. That's reason enough, don't you find?

Gail

I don't think he realizes he can preview his post and make corrections before posting them.

Hey, peanut! It's the button marked PREVIEW POST that you want to hit first!

~Bev

[THEDOC]

The contracts didn't come from a book. They were generated by me and then gone over and edited by an attorney, as was the NDA which indicatesspecifically what and what can't be taled about by the 'talent' without a written release from my company. The contract likewise has several clauses that cover specific areas regarding 'talents' rights and responsibilities. Has anyone seen a copy of a contract? Not everyone that has claimed to have been under contract was. Please add this to your compendium. Thank you.

What attorney.

[Draconomicon]

wannbe

Heh.......

[Papergirl]

Welcome to the party, Cross. Glad you managed to dodge the Olney bullet, but it sucks that you've got someone else giving you the runaround now.

My only 'Olney' question is -- Did Ronee hook you up with that job too? Sorry to hear that you're onhold with that company.

Quoted & screen capped!

~Bev

[Gail Simone]

My only 'Olney' question is -- Did Ronee hook you up with that job too? Sorry to hear that you're onhold with that company.

Yeesh.

PUNCTUATION, please!

For god's sake, couldn't you be a wannabe dancer or plumber or something instead of a pretend writer speaking to 'fans' who don't and never will exist?

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Heh.......

I know. Rick calling someone a 'wannabe,' is one of the funniest things he's ever said.

Gail

[THEDOC]

I know. Rick calling someone a 'wannabe,' is one of the funniest things he's ever said.

Gail

"Rick" is a "neverwas".

[Paul D. Storrie]

I don't think he realizes he can preview his post and make corrections [/b]before[/b] posting them.

Hey, peanut! It's the button marked PREVIEW POST that you want to hit first!

~Bev

Sorry, Bev, but had to chuckle at this one. I think you want to edit out the / in the first unicode marker before "before". ;)

And, no, this should in no way be construed as defending Olney the Lonely.

PDS

[Samuel Catalino]

TOTS will be out later this year for the fall horror season. You'll be able to buy it online.

I imagine it will be just in time for the Spooky Con, eh? That is, if there ever is a Spooky Con....

[GCom]

Online ordering.

Mmm hmmm.



With Tolerance For Options...

GCom

[Papergirl]

Sorry, Bev, but had to chuckle at this one. I think you want to edit out the / in the first unicode marker before "before". ;)

And, no, this should in no way be construed as defending Olney the Lonely.

PDS

Heh! Ironic that one of my rare typos is in that post!

Already caught it and corrected it. I just needed to take care of screen capping his post first. ;)

~Bev

[NatGertler]

Personal attacks should stop now.
Timestamp: 8:32 AM

Remain as professional as those 'talents' that have not allowed themselves to be sucked into this thread ... because they have lives, sense, and they're their own people...not easily swayed by hatred, attention, or bully tactics.Timestamp: 9:56 AM.

[Sarah Beach]

My only 'Olney' question is -- Did Ronee hook you up with that job too? Sorry to hear that you're onhold with that company.

Oh, give it up, twerp. I happen to know some inside stuff about that project. And I know the creators involved are working hard to get Chris' money out of the money man. Who may be a bad example in the business, but you are by far worse.

[Rick Olney]

Wow, go read THIS creepy Olney story. Note the bizarre paranoia and the anti-woman comments, just like he uses here on this thread.

http://renaissancegeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/eddie-torial-anecdote-when-eddie-met.html

Wow... I don't have any memory of an Eddie Mitchell without looking back for his old reader survey, so I can't comment on his experience. I guess for some it was a good experience and others just so-so. Nothing is perfect in life. I suspect that because he didn't renew his membership ... he didn't get newsletters. Sure enough we cranked out enough of them. I was mailing issues to large numbers of people -- both inside industry and fans -- and we reached out to a number of people that way to help them build their collections or allow them to get issues that they couldn't afford. Too bad a bunch of those people still in fandom don't blog about their Rick Olney story. Ahhh... but I doubt those stories would see mention in this thread. :rolleyes:

[Draconomicon]

I know. Rick calling someone a 'wannabe,' is one of the funniest things he's ever said.

Gail

Even more funny is that he did spell it wrong as well.

"Rick" is a "neverwas".

He so desperately seems to want to 'be' someone... I can only imagine the pain he must feel whenever he faces the fact that he is nothing but a peasant while thinking he should be the King.

I guess that is where the "Everyone holds me down" thinking must come from.

And that people would take Gails side to gain something just springs forth from the fact that it would probably 'his' thinking in such a situation. He doesnt take into account that the people here are 'not' *he*.

[the4thpip]

Yes, you've done a job on me, have you not? The real world calls that defamation of character.

Main Entry: de·fame
to harm the reputation of by libel or slander

Actually, the real word calls what Gail did here "tell the truth." It's not defamation when you really are a stinking weasel, Rickie.

[Papergirl]

Wow, go read THIS creepy Olney story. Note the bizarre paranoia and the anti-woman comments, just like he uses here on this thread.

http://renaissancegeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/eddie-torial-anecdote-when-eddie-met.html

Wow... I don't have any memory of an Eddie Mitchell without looking back for his old reader survey, so I can't comment on his experience. I guess for some it was a good experience and others just so-so. Nothing is perfect in life. I suspect that because he didn't renew his membership ... he didn't get newsletters. Sure enough we cranked out enough of them. I was mailing issues to large numbers of people -- both inside industry and fans -- and we reached out to a number of people that way to help them build their collections or allow them to get issues that they couldn't afford. Too bad a bunch of those people still in fandom don't blog about their Rick Olney story. Ahhh... but I doubt those stories would see mention in this thread. :rolleyes:

Quoted & Screen Capped!

~Bev

[THEDOC]

Wow... I don't have any memory of an Eddie Mitchell without looking back for his old reader survey, so I can't comment on his experience. I guess for some it was a good experience and others just so-so. Nothing is perfect in life. I suspect that because he didn't renew his membership ... he didn't get newsletters. Sure enough we cranked out enough of them. I was mailing issues to large numbers of people -- both inside industry and fans -- and we reached out to a number of people that way to help them build their collections or allow them to get issues that they couldn't afford. Too bad a bunch of those people still in fandom don't blog about their Rick Olney story. Ahhh... but I doubt those stories would see mention in this thread. :rolleyes:

We'd be glad to see some "Rick and ORCA were great to me" stories.

[Draconomicon]

Wow... I don't have any memory of an Eddie Mitchell without looking back for his old reader survey, so I can't comment on his experience. I guess for some it was a good experience and others just so-so.

Feeling 'threatened' is not a so-so experience...

[Gail Simone]

WHOA.

Okay, here's something very surprising. I DID misremember one thing, and it makes Rick an even BIGGER liar!

I've said often that Rick implied that he would pay my husband's airfare. Because I'm a woman of my word, and that wasn't part of the original agreement, I never pressed it. But I knew he has implied it several times (of course, and you can tell by his monkey dancing around the issue, he never actually paid it). He's claimed more than once here, in black and white, that he did. It's a lie, a flat-out idiot lie that he KNOWS is a lie, hence his cowardly and chicken-shit word mincing on the topic whenever it's brought up.

But, digging around in my email (and as I've said, I saved EVERY 'check's in the mail' letter from Rick. NEVER been lied to by one person so much), I found in black and white where he actually SAYS he is GOING TO PAY FOR MY HUSBAND'S AIRFARE.

Note that the PARTIAL PAYMENT of my airfare was months and months late after many, many lies on Rick's part, AND that he actually already had receipts for my airfare, so his comment about receipts is just classic Olney stalling. This is from September 14.


Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:31:53 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: "Rick Olney" <cynergy54@earthlink.net> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "Gail Simone" <gail@gailsimone.com>
Subject: Re: Didcha get it?

Glad you got it, Gail.

I'm not done repaying you. In fact, I need the remaining balance on
your monies owed and I'm planning on reimbursing you for Scott's plane
fare too.

I DID enjoy having you both here, and if you'll consider it and allow
me... I'd like to bring you back next May to the bigger MMC being held
in Syracuse, New York. We'll have 12 times the comic book retail support
in the greater Syracuse area, and airfare and accomodations will be
provided up front. Additionally, guests on the upper echelon are getting
one hundred dollars upon check-in to cover their meal expenses. No
reimbursing this coming year. :)

Let me know if you're interested and don't forget to give me the other
figures. Thanks.

Regards,
--Rick







This guy fricking tells ten huge lies before he gets up in the morning.

Gail

[TomStillwell]

Rick, a couple of things.

1. TOTS will be out later this year for the fall horror season. You'll be able to buy it online.

Rick, do you have TOTS #1 in your possession?

I know you posted a mock up rough draft cover by Dave Hartman on your blog recently. Do you a complete version of TOTS #1?

2. I'm noy upset at all, Danny. JT was actually too slow in turning out actual pages, and was replaced for that reason after the new creative director made a few suggestions that he wanted to see implimented. Great artist, but very slow. ..or at least unable to be consistent. Not a critical point, just my opinion.

Rick, how could you possibly expect anyone not being paid to turn in work in a timely manner? Did you pay him in a timely manner? Did you ever imagine that perhaps his work was slowed because he had to take other paying jobs to get by because you didn't pay him?

Personly, the only time I'm really motivated to work without pay is when either it's something I truly believe in and/or I'm working on my own projects. Otherwise I expect to be compensated for my time in order to meet my financial committments, something that seems foreign to you.

3. TightLip Entertainment isn't dissolved.

So you're accusing the Herkimer County Clerk's office of lying to two seperate individuals? Individuals, whom, called said office without knowledge the other was doing so but both came away with duplicate answers? If I were to call the clerk again tomorrow what answer would they give me?

Either that, or you are accusing two seperate individuals one of which is me, of fabricating the information. Being that the dissolution of Tightlip is on record as being fact with Herkimer County, the accusation thrown my way would be libel. Do you really want to stick with the story which causes you to libel me? Because if that's the case, I can't let someone libel me.

4. The contracts didn't come from a book. They were generated by me and then gone over and edited by an attorney, as was the NDA which indicatesspecifically what and what can't be taled about by the 'talent' without a written release from my company. The contract likewise has several clauses that cover specific areas regarding 'talents' rights and responsibilities. Has anyone seen a copy of a contract? Not everyone that has claimed to have been under contract was. Please add this to your compendium. Thank you.

Yes, I have indeed seen a copy of a contract from TLE. Any lawyer who put their stamp of approval on it should be disbarred. It was an obvisous cut and paste job modified by someone who thinks they know the law, namely you, and my emphasis is on THINKS.

I wasn't the only person to review your contract. A seasoned corporate attorney also gave it a once over as well as an industry veteran well versed in the legalities of Arts & Entertainment contracts. Both dismissed it as rubbish and stated you don't have a legal leg to stand on.

Rick, this is reality. Reality, this is Rick. You should get to know one another.

[THEDOC]

WHOA.

Okay, here's something very surprising. I DID misremember one thing, and it makes Rick an even BIGGER liar!

I've said often that Rick implied that he would pay my husband's airfare. Because I'm a woman of my word, and that wasn't part of the original agreement, I never pressed it. But I knew he has implied it several times (of course, and you can tell by his monkey dancing around the issue, he never actually paid it). He's claimed more than once here, in black and white, that he did. It's a lie, a flat-out idiot lie that he KNOWS is a lie, hence his cowardly and chicken-shit word mincing on the topic whenever it's brought up.

But, digging around in my email (and as I've said, I saved EVERY 'check's in the mail' letter from Rick. NEVER been lied to by one person so much), I found in black and white where he actually SAYS he is GOING TO PAY FOR MY HUSBAND'S AIRFARE.

Note that the PARTIAL PAYMENT of my airfare was months and months late after many, many lies on Rick's part, AND that he actually already had receipts for my airfare, so his comment about receipts is just classic Olney stalling. This is from September 14.


Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:31:53 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: "Rick Olney" <cynergy54@earthlink.net> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "Gail Simone" <gail@gailsimone.com>
Subject: Re: Didcha get it?

Glad you got it, Gail.

I'm not done repaying you. In fact, I need the remaining balance on
your monies owed and I'm planning on reimbursing you for Scott's plane
fare too.

I DID enjoy having you both here, and if you'll consider it and allow
me... I'd like to bring you back next May to the bigger MMC being held
in Syracuse, New York. We'll have 12 times the comic book retail support
in the greater Syracuse area, and airfare and accomodations will be
provided up front. Additionally, guests on the upper echelon are getting
one hundred dollars upon check-in to cover their meal expenses. No
reimbursing this coming year. :)

Let me know if you're interested and don't forget to give me the other
figures. Thanks.

Regards,
--Rick







This guy fricking tells ten huge lies before he gets up in the morning.

Gail

And "Rick" goes D'oh! OR he will claim you edited it as he always does.

[Draconomicon]

I'm not done repaying you. In fact, I need the remaining balance on
your monies owed and I'm planning on reimbursing you for Scott's plane
fare too.

In gaming circles we call that 'OWNED'.

[the4thpip]

For some odd reason that really impresses me.

The interesting part is that the original copy must have gotten lost in the mail on its way to Germany and I never got it. I mentioned that fact to Dwayne McDuffie something like 6 years later, and he sent me not only a signed copy of a Static monthly, but also a signed Static trade paperback.

Because Dwayne is a real man who keeps his promises. Unlike, you know, Olney.

[Gail Simone]

Wow... I don't have any memory of an Eddie Mitchell without looking back for his old reader survey, so I can't comment on his experience. I guess for some it was a good experience and others just so-so. Nothing is perfect in life. I suspect that because he didn't renew his membership ... he didn't get newsletters. Sure enough we cranked out enough of them. I was mailing issues to large numbers of people -- both inside industry and fans -- and we reached out to a number of people that way to help them build their collections or allow them to get issues that they couldn't afford. Too bad a bunch of those people still in fandom don't blog about their Rick Olney story. Ahhh... but I doubt those stories would see mention in this thread. :rolleyes:

Sure they would, Rick. I'm not a desperate control freak like you. You've been allowed to come here and say whatever you like. So would anyone else who had anything positive to say about you.

YOU'RE the coward who closes forums and deletes posts and requires that everyone register and that every post be checked before going up.

I do none of that, ever.

You're a coward. Everyone knows it.


Gail

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

What IS it?

Gail

As Diana Fan said, Dementia 13 is a groovy little ax murderer horror flick that was Coppola's first film. And yes while he had done some co-directing with Roger Corman and did one or two soft porn jobs, Dementia 13 was his first real directing job.

Coppola was assisting Corman on the set of The Young Racers (1963) in Ireland. Corman allowed Coppola to use the same set, crew and actors Luana Anders, William Campbell and Patrick Magee for this film if he could shoot around the shooting schedule of Corman's film.

And at one point...heads roll. Well...one head anyway. So...kind of like Olney. ;)

[Gail Simone]

When Rick's lies are displayed as they are here this morning, he always either:

1) Runs like a baby, crying, back to his forum where he can control every post that comes in, or

2) Ignores it, hoping it'll go away.

Ick. Cowards make my skin crawl.

Gail

[Papergirl]

YOU'RE the coward who closes forums and deletes posts and requires that everyone register and that every post be checked before going up.

And this is exactly WHY I'm quoting/screen capping every damned thing he types here. He can't be trusted to stand by what he says.

~Bev

[Rick Olney]

Wow, go read THIS creepy Olney story. Note the bizarre paranoia and the anti-woman comments, just like he uses here on this thread.

http://renaissancegeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/eddie-torial-anecdote-when-eddie-met.html



Also -- The anti-woman comments were not anti-woman comments. To clarify, I had a problem back then with how fans were being called "fanboys" ... because Wizard and people like Donna Barr, who I actually no longer read or endorse, were taking the image of the average comic book reader and shaping it into this person that never bathed, wore only flannel shirts, and dragged their entire collections to conventions to get in line and have their favorite 'talent' sign as many books as that person would...only to get back in line and repeat the process. It actually came to light after a mother that had been getting comics for her son and daughter called me to talk about the negative image she saw that was associated with comic book reading. I understood and agreed with her point, again take into consideration the move away from popular spandex driven mainstream that the Indy market and people like Donna Barr were working hard to out shine to get attention and sales paid to them. Anyway, long story short -- Wizard cut back on that sort of thing and Donna Barr wasn't bothered at all.

"Gail" ... try not to perpetuate this image lie of me, wouldja? Thanks.

[THEDOC]

When Rick's lies are displayed as they are here this morning, he always either:

1) Runs like a baby, crying, back to his forum where he can control every post that comes in, or

2) Ignores it, hoping it'll go away.

Ick. Cowards make my skin crawl.

Gail

Or he deletes members and their posts (blaming others) who say somethiing he disagrees with.

[the4thpip]

Wow... I don't have any memory of an Eddie Mitchell without looking back for his old reader survey, so I can't comment on his experience. I guess for some it was a good experience and others just so-so. Nothing is perfect in life. I suspect that because he didn't renew his membership ... he didn't get newsletters. Sure enough we cranked out enough of them. I was mailing issues to large numbers of people -- both inside industry and fans -- and we reached out to a number of people that way to help them build their collections or allow them to get issues that they couldn't afford. Too bad a bunch of those people still in fandom don't blog about their Rick Olney story. Ahhh... but I doubt those stories would see mention in this thread. :rolleyes:

OK, here then is another assignment for the board:

Can anyone prove Peanut's claim that there were more newsletters than Eddie Mitchell go in that timeframe?

[Papergirl]

When Rick's lies are displayed as they are here this morning, he always either:

1) Runs like a baby, crying, back to his forum where he can control every post that comes in, or

2) Ignores it, hoping it'll go away.

Ick. Cowards make my skin crawl.

Gail
You forgot #3...

3.) He runs off to "eat dinner" for 2 days.

~Bev

[Rick Olney]

Chris, first, thanks for showing up here--I'm a huge fan of your art!

And yeah, this Robert guy sounds like he's from the same ilk as Olney. Hope he does right and pays up.

Gail

"Gail" ... I'm just wondering about something. Once these 'talents' are paid by me how are you going to retract what you said and implied about me personally here?

[Papergirl]

Wow, go read THIS creepy Olney story. Note the bizarre paranoia and the anti-woman comments, just like he uses here on this thread.

http://renaissancegeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/eddie-torial-anecdote-when-eddie-met.html

Also -- The anti-woman comments were not anti-woman comments. To clarify, I had a problem back then with how fans were being called "fanboys" ... because Wizard and people like Donna Barr, who I actually no longer read or endorse, were taking the image of the average comic book reader and shaping it into this person that never bathed, wore only flannel shirts, and dragged their entire collections to conventions to get in line and have their favorite 'talent' sign as many books as that person would...only to get back in line and repeat the process. It actually came to light after a mother that had been getting comics for her son and daughter called me to talk about the negative image she saw that was associated with comic book reading. I understood and agreed with her point, again take into consideration the move away from popular spandex driven mainstream that the Indy market and people like Donna Barr were working hard to out shine to get attention and sales paid to them. Anyway, long story short -- Wizard cut back on that sort of thing and Donna Barr wasn't bothered at all.

"Gail" ... try not to perpetuate this image lie of me, wouldja? Thanks.

Quoted, peanut!

~Bev

[Papergirl]

Chris, first, thanks for showing up here--I'm a huge fan of your art!

And yeah, this Robert guy sounds like he's from the same ilk as Olney. Hope he does right and pays up.

Gail

"Gail" ... I'm just wondering about something. Once these 'talents' are paid by me how are you going to retract what you said and implied about me personally here?

Quoted!

~Bev

[Samuel Catalino]

Or he deletes members and their posts (blaming others) who say somethiing he disagrees with.

Doc,

That does sound like someone I knew....

Best,

Samuel

[THEDOC]

"Gail" ... I'm just wondering about something. Once these 'talents' are paid by me how are you going to retract what you said and implied about me personally here?

Pay Tim! Actions speak louder than words.

[the4thpip]

people like Donna Barr, who I actually no longer read or endorse.

I finally figured out why Donna's stuff doesn't outsell "New Avengers" anymore. :(

[Samuel Catalino]

You forgot #3...

3.) He runs off to "eat dinner" for 2 days.

~Bev

Bev,

Well, one has to maintain one's fabulous figure.

Best,

Samuel

[Ronée]

oh, i'm sorry y'all... i'm being rude.
Hello, everybody!!

I did dodge it thanks to my personal Wonder Woman, Ronee.

But as far as Robert is concerned, i WILL get my MONEY.awww Cross... u are sweet. I would hug you if I could reach your damn shoulders!

[THEDOC]

Doc,

That does sound like someone I knew....

Best,

Samuel

Speaking from personal experience. He blamed it on some phantom hacker (probably meaning Ian as he always blamed him), it was just funny as when I got banned so did my comments though Nino and others replies stayed.

[Samuel Catalino]

Speaking from personal experience. He blamed it on some phantom hacker (probably meaning Ian as he always blamed him), it waass just funny as when I got banned so did my comments though Nino and others replies stayed.

Doc,

Yes, I heard that soap opera act one too many times. I hope all is well with Nino, though. Nino is a cool guy.

Best,

Samuel

[THEDOC]

Doc,

Yes, I heard that soap opera act one too many times. I hope all is well with Nino, though. Nino is a cool guy.

Best,

Samuel

I think Nino reads this and laughs his ass off, now there is a guy who should do something on the "Unscrewed" book. Nino was another one screwed by the MMC cancellation and had to reschedule his vacation.
Hey Sam, come by the Small Press Pavaler chat tonight.

[Ronée]

Just clicked the link to your MySpace. My pheromones were specifically calibrated by the Goddess at my conception to attract Beautiful, Intelligent, Female Sagittariians, so you likely would be experiencing love at first sight, in person. Although I was raised with four younger sisters--a 'protector' personality, and am an ardent feminist, I am also a notorious Shatner. Beware!

So, how come, no matter how great I really am, I feel like a creep when I do rarely flirt on the internet? Oh, yeah--because it's creepy! :D*grins* I suppose if no one minds the pics of kittens and the side conversations, then no one should mind me using this thread to flirt. lol. ;)

[Samuel Catalino]

I think Nino reads this and laughs his ass off, now ther is a guy who should do something on the "Unscrewed" book.
Hey Sam, come by the Small Press Pavaler chat tonight.

Doc,

I am finished with Small Press Pavaler, it left a bad taste in my mouth back in May.

Best,

Samuel

[THEDOC]

Aw sorry to hear that Sam. Hope it works out someday you will make it back.

[Mark Waid]

"Gail" ... I'm just wondering about something. Once these 'talents' are paid by me how are you going to retract what you said and implied about me personally here?

You've got her there. She won't be able to, because by then we'll all be too busy defending ourselves from the Morlocks. On the plus side, however, you might have been able to find a lawyer by then.

"Rick"...I'm just wondering about something. Are you unaware that continually putting the word "talents" in quotation marks is insulting, or are you intentionally back to making personal attacks after asking for a cease-fire? Which is it?

[Rick Olney]

And here we see the true power of OKRA in action.

For all that Rick likes to gas about all the benefit he's done for comics, creating new readers, what did he do here?

1. He sent free issues of ASTRO CITY to a guy who had already read them and liked them. This doesn't create new readers -- it simply means that postage has been spent making sure an existing fan has doubles.

kdb

Actually -- Eddie got issues that he signified that he still needed to know what part of the story he hadn't read yet. So it was a service to him and I suspect the issues were either brand new, as ORCA bought multiples of books ... even Donna Barr's books or there may have been an autographed book in with the bunch.

[Sarah Beach]

"Gail" ... I'm just wondering about something. Once these 'talents' are paid by me how are you going to retract what you said and implied about me personally here?

Why the quote marks around the word talent, Rick? Are you trying to imply that you don't think much of their abilities? Cripes, call the talent the talent, and have done with it. It's a standard, useful term in entertainment circles, and everyone understands who it applies to. Get some business sense, why don't you? Particularly in the business you claim to be working in!

As for what Gail has said, why should she retract anything? Why should she retract statements about how it took her over 2 years to get reimbursed for expenses incurred going to your con, which should have been paid upfront by you? And even if you do finally get around to paying some of the talent, you've done so after the some unprofessional, disgusting dragging out of payment I've ever seen by anyone. You're not going to be changing the past by finally getting around to paying people. You may only be changing your future in the business -- and I say that advisedly, just as a hypothetical. I don't actually think you do have a future in the business. Not in reality.

[rummblestrips]

"Gail" ... I'm just wondering about something. Once these 'talents' are paid by me how are you going to retract what you said and implied about me personally here?

I think it's important to note this quote.

Legally, is this an admission that he does owe these 'talents' money?

[Papergirl]

And here we see the true power of OKRA in action.

For all that Rick likes to gas about all the benefit he's done for comics, creating new readers, what did he do here?

1. He sent free issues of ASTRO CITY to a guy who had already read them and liked them. This doesn't create new readers -- it simply means that postage has been spent making sure an existing fan has doubles.

2. He attempted to get an existing comics fan to read less, by bagging on his tastes and trash-talking a creator he didn't like.

OKRA's efforts, therefore, amounted to using OKRA resources to funnel duplicate comics to a guy who already was a comics reader, and to try to get him to stop liking certain comics. Ooh, rah.

I'm pleased, at least, that:

a. Eddie likes ASTRO CITY.

b. Eddie recouped his money by selling the duplicates.

c. The duplicates may have gotten into the hands of someone who hadn't already read them, no thanks to OKRA.

kdb

Actually -- Eddie got issues that he signified that he still needed to know what part of the story he hadn't read yet. So it was a service to him and I suspect the issues were either brand new, as ORCA bought multiples of books ... even Donna Barr's books or there may have been an autographed book in with the bunch.

Quoted!

~Bev

[THEDOC]

You've got her there. She won't be able to, because by then we'll all be too busy defending ourselves from the Morlocks. On the plus side, however, you might have been able to find a lawyer by then.

"Rick"...I'm just wondering about something. Are you unaware that continually putting the word "talents" in quotation marks is insulting, or are you intentionally back to making personal attacks after asking for a cease-fire? Which is it?

You're right so I ma not going to use them around Rick's name. I think he never left making personal attacks.

[Rick Olney]

I hope if Eddie is reading this, he realized that he's now going to get another correspondence from Rick. Don't back down though Eddie. If he emails or phones you and makes threats, let the public know immediately!

You are simply ridiculous, Joanne... I have no intention of contacting Eddie. His experience wasn't a good one. So what? :rolleyes:

[THEDOC]

You are simply ridiculous, Joanne... I have no intention of contacting Eddie. His experience wasn't a good one. So what? :rolleyes:

It just shows the pattern of your business ethics or lack of.

[Papergirl]

I hope if Eddie is reading this, he realized that he's now going to get another correspondence from Rick. Don't back down though Eddie. If he emails or phones you and makes threats, let the public know immediately!

You are simply ridiculous, Joanne... I have no intention of contacting Eddie. His experience wasn't a good one. So what? :rolleyes:

Quoted!

~Bev

[neko onna]

What attorney.

he has probably tried to change them after the fact..that is the only way to curb the "outing" of his behavior as no one would have known this would happen when they "signed" them. So there is no way the "NDA's" can have "don't say i didn't pay you on a comic message board becasue you won't get paid!" Not that it matters..becasue if anyone broke the contracts it would be Rick by not paying in a timely manner. Which, correct me if I am wrong, Collen, is concidered 30 days upon completion.



Rick, a couple of things.

1.

Rick, do you have TOTS #1 in your possession?

I know you posted a mock up rough draft cover by Dave Hartman on your blog recently. Do you a complete version of TOTS #1?

2.

Rick, how could you possibly expect anyone not being paid to turn in work in a timely manner? Did you pay him in a timely manner? Did you ever imagine that perhaps his work was slowed because he had to take other paying jobs to get by because you didn't pay him?

Personly, the only time I'm really motivated to work without pay is when either it's something I truly believe in and/or I'm working on my own projects. Otherwise I expect to be compensated for my time in order to meet my financial committments, something that seems foreign to you.

3.

So you're accusing the Herkimer County Clerk's office of lying to two seperate individuals? Individuals, whom, called said office without knowledge the other was doing so but both came away with duplicate answers? If I were to call the clerk again tomorrow what answer would they give me?

Either that, or you are accusing two seperate individuals one of which is me, of fabricating the information. Being that the dissolution of Tightlip is on record as being fact with Herkimer County, the accusation thrown my way would be libel. Do you really want to stick with the story which causes you to libel me? Because if that's the case, I can't let someone libel me.

4.

Yes, I have indeed seen a copy of a contract from TLE. Any lawyer who put their stamp of approval on it should be disbarred. It was an obvisous cut and paste job modified by someone who thinks they know the law, namely you, and my emphasis is on THINKS.

I wasn't the only person to review your contract. A seasoned corporate attorney also gave it a once over as well as an industry veteran well versed in the legalities of Arts & Entertainment contracts. Both dismissed it as rubbish and stated you don't have a legal leg to stand on.

Rick, this is reality. Reality, this is Rick. You should get to know one another.

http://hokiestone.net/v/WINSLOW-OWNED.gif

[Samuel Catalino]

You've got her there. She won't be able to, because by then we'll all be too busy defending ourselves from the Morlocks. On the plus side, however, you might have been able to find a lawyer by then.

"Rick"...I'm just wondering about something. Are you unaware that continually putting the word "talents" in quotation marks is insulting, or are you intentionally back to making personal attacks after asking for a cease-fire? Which is it?

Mark,

You are forgetting who you are dealing with. There are some people who seem to not be capable of rational thought.

Best,

Samuel

[Rick Olney]

Why should we believe you are sincere now. Is your wife helping you write again?

Lance, I'm finally getting down to reading this page. Did you really want me to get personal about your wife and life. Is this what this thread is all about with personal attacks?

[Ronée]

Beautiful.

So now Rick doesn't "owe" Ronee anything, but he feels "obliged" to pay her.





Big difference there.

So why do you suppose Rick feels obligated? Because of the press releases she sent out on his behalf? The contact with creators who felt stiffed? The attempts to smoothe things over with the MMC fiasco? Or maybe just for the cheap pot shots he's taken at her in this thread?I love how NOW I am a "friend" who did stuff for him. Give me a fucking break. I am suing him crosseyed.

[Papergirl]

Why should we believe you are sincere now. Is your wife helping you write again?

Lance, I'm finally getting down to reading this page. Did you really want me to get personal about your wife and life. Is this what this thread is all about with personal attacks?

Quoted!

~Bev

[Rick Olney]

Rick, if you come back...thanks for answering the few questions you did. You lied about Michael, but that isn't a big shock to me.

Matt, I didn't lie about Michael. But if yoiu really think I did then substaniate your claim to knowing different. Otherwise, I have nothing else to say to you here.

[JamesRitcheyIII]

"Gail" ... I'm just wondering about something. Once these 'talents' are paid by me how are you going to retract what you said and implied about me personally here?

I can't speak for Gail--but retracting the factual experiences of many people is a lie--you will always be suspect, not because of this thread, but because everyone knows of your behavior. Change that behavior, pay the people you owe money to, and that perception would likely change, over time. Redeem yourself--but, alas, the 'talent' quotation shows your contempt for them, ALL of us, and you really do seem to be missing the irony of that.

Ya should maybe stop with the "Gail" bullshit, too--it makes you look even more of a fear-motivated, petty imbecile than you really are. I'm sure "Stan Lee" would back me up on this. I say this out of pure embarrassment for you, and nothing else.

[Paul D. Storrie]

Actually -- Eddie got issues that he signified that he still needed to know what part of the story he hadn't read yet. So it was a service to him and I suspect the issues were either brand new, as ORCA bought multiples of books ... even Donna Barr's books or there may have been an autographed book in with the bunch.

Funny, first you say you don't remember this guy. Then you have detail recollections of what was sent to him and why.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

PDS

[Sarah Beach]

Lance, I'm finally getting down to reading this page. Did you really want me to get personal about your wife and life. Is this what this thread is all about with personal attacks?

Um, gee. I didn't see that as a personal attack on your wife. In fact, it's a compliment. As in, we actually believe she has language skills.



Unlike, oh, say legumes of the nutty variety.

[Rick Olney]

I love how NOW I am a "friend" who did stuff for him. Give me a fucking break. I am suing him crosseyed.

Take your best shot, Ronee. You never wanted it any other way anyway. Just be prepared for the countersuit.

[Papergirl]

Rick, if you come back...thanks for answering the few questions you did. You lied about Michael, but that isn't a big shock to me.

I will leave a few more questions for you that you may or may not answer:

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

Matt, I didn't lie about Michael. But if yoiu really think I did then substaniate your claim to knowing different. Otherwise, I have nothing else to say to you here.

Quoted

~Bev

[Rick Olney]

Um, gee. I didn't see that as a personal attack on your wife. In fact, it's a compliment. As in, we actually believe she has language skills.



Unlike, oh, say legumes of the nutty variety.

Okay, Sarah... have it your way. I don't need to post here.

[Papergirl]

I love how NOW I am a "friend" who did stuff for him. Give me a fucking break. I am suing him crosseyed.

Take your best shot, Ronee. You never wanted it any other way anyway. Just be prepared for the countersuit.

Quoted, peanut.

~Bev

[rummblestrips]

You are simply ridiculous, Joanne... I have no intention of contacting Eddie. His experience wasn't a good one. So what? :rolleyes:

For a normal, balanced human being, that is correct, a bad experience would mean that the two parties split and move on.
For YOU, it was obviously a whole different ball game. You did to Eddie what you did to every other person or group you have been involved in. You went on a tirade of foolish and irrational behavior doing everything in your power to make you look right, and everyone else look wrong.

I'm sorry you don't even see what you're doing. I wish their was a way for you to look at yourself through clear eyes. Deep down, I'm sure you are ashamed of all these terrible things that you've done, but it's built up so much, you can't bear to let even a tiny bit of that side of the story slip into your psyche.

Anyway, I know these words are going to get morphed into some personal attack and you'll end up calling me another disgusting name. Get off the computer Rick and go and save yourself somehow.

[Papergirl]

Um, gee. I didn't see that as a personal attack on your wife. In fact, it's a compliment. As in, we actually believe she has language skills.



Unlike, oh, say legumes of the nutty variety.

Okay, Sarah... have it your way. I don't need to post here.

Chickenshit.

Quoted.

~Bev

[Indigo Al]

Take your best shot, Ronee. You never wanted it any other way anyway. Just be prepared for the countersuit.

Will you pay your "attorneys"?

[Samuel Catalino]

Chickenshit.

Quoted.

~Bev

Bev,

Don't worry. He will be back.

Best,

Samuel

[Samuel Catalino]

Will you pay your "attorneys"?

Indigo Al,

Before one pays attorneys, one must have attorneys.

Best,

Samuel

[Matt Doc Martin]

Matt, I didn't lie about Michael. But if yoiu really think I did then substaniate your claim to knowing different. Otherwise, I have nothing else to say to you here.

YOu called him and threatened him with legal action. I have proof.

[Magneto_X]

http://www.sitefights.com/community/spirit/jackzodiac//PBF/0pbf50020bc-penguin_enemy.jpg

Did you make that?

It's great. And funny! :D

[Matt Doc Martin]

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Did you pay them for their last appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

And did you threaten Michael with a lawsuit?

Cause he says you did......

[Sarah Beach]

Okay, Sarah... have it your way. I don't need to post here.

Hahahahahahaha!

And yet you keep coming back!


Or are you trying to imply that I have some sort of need in being here myself?

Golly gee, you know what? My "need" is only that I'm an extrovert who likes to find communities of folks with shared interests, of which this is one. I don't "need" anything from this thread, although I've discovered that it is not doing me any harm. But just to be clear, peanut, since I'm suspecting an implication on your part that I'm somehow doing this to "suck up" to various folks -- NOT SO! My credentials were all established long ago. As were many of my contacts in this business. Nothing to do with anything happening here.

[Papergirl]

Bev,

Don't worry. He will be back.

Best,

Samuel

Heh! I know he will. Peanut can't leave here. This is the most attention he's ever gotten.

~Bev

[Rick Olney]

Again, who cares what he says here?

Tightlip? Dissolved. Nearly everyone involved has been cheated, lied to and threatened. A huge embarrassment and a blot on the industry. Story after story of people who will never be paid, and more Olney bullshit about how it'll be different in the future. Yeah, right.

Orca? People keep coming forward to say what a lousy 'service' it was, and how many promises were broken, and how it existed completely to feed Rick's bizarre ego. Dead. No one will ever donate anything to a club with a bigoted lunatic involved, especially when he lies about its non-profit status and harrasses members when they don't hate the same creators he hates.

Mighty Mini Con? Dead. Dead by Rick's incompetence and lack of finances. Who would go? If you google Rick's name, it's an endless line of links talking about what an incompetent deadbeat he's been. No one has ANYTHING good to say about him. Of course, he'll just cancel the next one, like the last several, anyway.


So what difference does it make if he posts denials here? He's done, everyone knows it.

The industry won't miss him or his ilk.

Gail


"Gail" this entire post shows how much you don't know about the comics entertainment industry. And, I am a big deal. You've MADE me a big deal. Thank you. ;)

[GCom]

"Gail" this entire post shows how much you don't know about the comics entertainment industry. And, I am a big deal. You've MADE me a big deal. Thank you. ;)

I would like to be amused at this comment. Is that okay? Can I? Huh? Can I?




With Tolerance For Little Boys Bouncing In Anticipation...

GCom

[Papergirl]

Again, who cares what he says here?

Tightlip? Dissolved. Nearly everyone involved has been cheated, lied to and threatened. A huge embarrassment and a blot on the industry. Story after story of people who will never be paid, and more Olney bullshit about how it'll be different in the future. Yeah, right.

Orca? People keep coming forward to say what a lousy 'service' it was, and how many promises were broken, and how it existed completely to feed Rick's bizarre ego. Dead. No one will ever donate anything to a club with a bigoted lunatic involved, especially when he lies about its non-profit status and harrasses members when they don't hate the same creators he hates.

Mighty Mini Con? Dead. Dead by Rick's incompetence and lack of finances. Who would go? If you google Rick's name, it's an endless line of links talking about what an incompetent deadbeat he's been. No one has ANYTHING good to say about him. Of course, he'll just cancel the next one, like the last several, anyway.


So what difference does it make if he posts denials here? He's done, everyone knows it.

The industry won't miss him or his ilk.

Gail

"Gail" this entire post shows how much you don't know about the comics entertainment industry. And, I am a big deal. You've MADE me a big deal. Thank you. ;)

Quoted and screen capped.

~Bev

[the4thpip]

And, I am a big deal. You've MADE me a big deal. Thank you. ;)

She revealed you to be a big fraud.

And that is the deal, Peanut.

[Buckminster Futter]

So what? :rolleyes:


So this, you prevaricating putz :

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_42/1140687005w8JeQd.jpg

[Matt Doc Martin]

"Gail" this entire post shows how much you don't know about the comics entertainment industry. And, I am a big deal. You've MADE me a big deal. Thank you. ;)

You are a big deal like a Jefferys Dahmer or a David Duke. Not all publicity is good. Your actions are reprehensible at best. YOu asked Gail if she woul dretract her comments. Does she have reason to? Are you now being honest? Are you making things right?

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Did you pay them for their last appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

And did you threaten Michael with a lawsuit?

Cause he says you did......

[Lester C.]

"Gail" this entire post shows how much you don't know about the comics entertainment industry. And, I am a big deal. You've MADE me a big deal. Thank you. ;)


If by big deal you mean universally loathed then congratulations on becoming infamous. How does it feel to look in the mirror and see a nasty mean spirited vile bully staring back at you?

[Rick Olney]

Bev,

Don't worry. He will be back.

Best,

Samuel

No, I'm gone. I thought I could come here, apologize, and try to answer the important questions. I now see that that is indeed fruitless. Well, except for you , Sam. Now that you're here ... and I see Buckfutter welcoming you ... this will soon drop to fruit-of-the-room level. Cya!

[Matt Doc Martin]

No, I'm gone. I thought I could come here, apologize, and try to answer the important questions. I now see that that is indeed fruitless. Well, except for you , Sam. Now that you're here ... and I see Buckfutter welcoming you ... this will soon drop to fruit-of-the-room level. Cya!

By posting that, you indeed WERE back.

1) Do you expect the Ghost Hunters to be at your proposed con? Did you pay them for their last appearance?
2) Did you pay anything towards the airfare of the man who accompanied the woman who uses the pen name "Gail Simone"?
3) Why did you dissolve TightLip?
4) How many times have you been served so far this year?
5) What law(s) did I specifically break? (I WILL turn myself in if I did. I have utmost respect for the law...and two of my best friends are cops) You can PM me if you would like...and if you do, I will keep it private, under pain of being banned. (Gail, You have my express order to ban me if I reveal what he says in PM to me)
6) Why did you not give Roneé the information she asked for repeatedly that you HAD promised to give her?
7) Why have you not paid the man who goes by the name "Doc Absurd" the money that you promised him and that you admit you owe when there is no NDA involved?

And did you threaten Michael with a lawsuit?

Cause he says you did......

[Papergirl]

Bev,

Don't worry. He will be back.

Best,

Samuel

No, I'm gone. I thought I could come here, apologize, and try to answer the important questions. I now see that that is indeed fruitless. Well, except for you , Sam. Now that you're here ... and I see Buckfutter welcoming you ... this will soon drop to fruit-of-the-room level. Cya!

Scott Shaw! called it!

Quoted.

~Bev

[Corrina]

Also -- The anti-woman comments were not anti-woman comments.
"Gail" ... try not to perpetuate this image lie of me, wouldja? Thanks.

She's not perpetuating it. You are, with your own comments in this thread.

[Blake Petit]

Ugly is, as ugly does, Blake. I can only assume that you think that because "Gail" has her writer buddies posting here that weighing in and being insulting will somehow help your career? Ummm... no. Remain as professional as those 'talents' that have not allowed themselves to be sucked into this thread ... because they have lives, sense, and they're their own people...not easily swayed by hatred, attention, or bully tactics.

I forget who it was who said it, Rick, but someone here pointed out that talent is only half of what gets someone work in this business. The other half is reliability. Those two factors, and ONLY those two factors, are what I'm counting on in terms of my career.

But I can't deny that I feel I'm in pretty good company right now.

[neko onna]

can someone tell me what fruit-of-the-room level is?

I may be dyslexic but the "l" and the "r" are no where near each other on the keyboard. o_O

[Draconomicon]

No, I'm gone. I thought I could come here, apologize, and try to answer the important questions.
No question answered.

this will soon drop to fruit-of-the-room level. Cya!

*Blinks*
Did he just call everyone here being 'fruits' like in 'gay'?
Like in the 'insulting' meaning of the word?