Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Gail Simone]

You know what book I liked, though?

Sentinel.

I'm glad you're at DC, by the way.

But you still sti...

Never mind.

Gail

[Sean McKeever]

You know what book I liked, though?

Sentinel.

I'm glad you're at DC, by the way.

But you still sti...

Never mind.

Gail
And I'm liking that Atom book. And Tranquility. You're a very talented, creative writer.





Except when it comes to burns.

Oh snap! I so did just go there! Oh-ho-ho! Served!

Um...

[howyadoin]

Dread, thank you. Actually, for some reason I thought that the MA thing went down during the time when you weren't posting much at CBR, so I was sort of giving you a pass. Anyway, I accept your apology and I'll offer one of my own:

I apologize for my earlier comments that smeared the whole Community Forum. I should not have done that, and I regret any hurt I may have caused anyone.

I just told Oz this in PM, and I'll say it here.

I shouldn't post when I'm tired and something annoys me. When I do, I post badly.

The point that I was trying to express, and which I utterly failed to make, is that the Community Board as a group, in my opinoin, has zero moral ground from which to criticize anyone else's behavior. We dogpile on jerks here; they just hang their friends out to twist in the wind. I'm not seeing how that's superior conduct.

I probably did (okay, definitely did) overreact this time. Hell, I overreacted in the CBR memories thread. But, as has been made clear here, everyone thought that I was stewing over a decade-old flamewar. I wasn't. I was stewing about the current mocking presence of one of the instigators of that flamewar and his utter lack of regret or embarrassment for his actions, and the forum's complete acceptance of him without any regard for his prior actions. This time, my anger is not so much directed at my perceived abandonment by my friends, as at the misplaced moral superiority displayed by them.

If YABS is a stain on CBR, it's not the only one. We dogpile on a creep who deserves it; Comm leaves their supposed friends to twist in the wind. So which is better? Add in the fact that there are dogpiles a-plenty on the Comm board, and there doesn't seem to be much in the way of a moral high-horse anywhere around. If the Olney story had surfaced on Comm, this thread would be exactly the same, except that some of the names would be changed and mods would be deleting the excesses.

But that doesn't alleviate me of my responsibility for my words. I apologize once again for unjustly hurting people by smearing the whole group.Wow. A classier, more sincere and heartfelt apology, I've never seen.

[MacQuarrie]

Wow. A classier, more sincere and heartfelt apology, I've never seen.
Is that intended to be sarcasm? I can't really tell.

[howyadoin]

Is that intended to be sarcasm? I can't really tell.Your "apology" didn't seem even slightly backhanded to you?

Well shit, since you're being so big about it, let me return the favour, Jim:

I'm sorry I didn't join CBR a few years earlier so I could've defended you during the Mushmouth incident. Clearly I'm a thoughtlesss asshole, and not the paragon of virtue you pretend to be.

[TomStillwell]

I can just imagine the reception he'd get at any major con at this point. Not that I'd want anyone to confront him in any way, but I can't imagine it would be a very cheery reception.

Gail

I would pay his airfare and convention ticket to Wizard World Chicago just to witness said reception.

And that means pays for it in advance. In like, money, and stuff. Gratis.

I can just see him making the rounds through Artist Alley looking for dupes only to be met by the icy death glare daggers.

Or maybe sitting in on the big DC panel when Mark Waid stands to his feet, points a righteous finger at Olney and exclaims...

"You sir, lack the basic humanity God granted all his children. Your soul is tarnished, your honor threadbare, and goodness has fled from your personage long ago! Go! You are cast out from us! Go and darken our fellowship no more!! Go!!"

And then Jann Jones would summon her Alpaca to bite him!!!

[Sarah Beach]

I would pay his airfare and convention ticket to Wizard World Chicago just to witness said reception.

And that means pays for it in advance. In like, money, and stuff. Gratis.

I can just see him making the rounds through Artist Alley looking for dupes only to be met by the icy death glare daggers.

Or maybe sitting in on the big DC panel when Mark Waid stands to his feet, points a righteous finger at Olney and exclaims...

"You sir, lack the basic humanity God granted all his children. Your soul is tarnished, your honor threadbare, and goodness has fled from your personage long ago! Go! You are cast out from us! Go and darken our fellowship no more!! Go!!"

And then Jann Jones would summon her Alpaca to bite him!!!

Whereupon the standing ovation Waid got on entering the room would be repeated.



(Oh, and Howyadoin & MacQuarrie -- could you two just chill for a while? The noise you're makin' banging away on something I'm not even following, since it doesn't seem to apply here is giving me a headache. You're much more interesting to read when you're not trying to out-trash each other. Please, have mercy... give it a rest?)

[Typo Lad]

Just when you thought it was safe.

[howyadoin]

(Oh, and Howyadoin & MacQuarrie -- could you two just chill for a while? The noise you're makin' banging away on something I'm not even following, since it doesn't seem to apply here is giving me a headache. You're much more interesting to read when you're not trying to out-trash each other. Please, have mercy... give it a rest?)My apologies. I know how frustrating it must be; I was trying to broker a little peace myself last night, when people started slinging pointless shit again.

[MacQuarrie]

Your "apology" didn't seem even slightly backhanded to you?

Well shit, since you're being so big about it, let me return the favour, Jim:

I'm sorry I didn't join CBR a few years earlier so I could've defended you during the Mushmouth incident. Clearly I'm a thoughtlesss asshole, and not the paragon of virtue you pretend to be.

I've never pretended to be a paragon of virtue. I'm an asshole and well aware of it. I try to keep a lid on it most of the time.

Yeah, my apology was backhanded. One of the things I've learned over the years is, when somebody says they are offended, insulted, or hurt by something, nobody else gets to say whether or not they should feel that way. Nobody else gets to decide whether or how wronged I feel over these things. The fact is I feel that way.

And once again, it's not the actions of MuchMouth and his asshole friends weight years ago that upsets me. It's the actions of people now who make excuses for them and tell me what I should and shouldn't feel.

Are you honestly telling me that you never heard of the Monkey Alliance before MuchMouth showed up to gloat? Nobody ever mentioned the worst flame-attack in CBR history?

Even if it's true that you never heard of it, are you saying that you don't know me well enough to know whether or not I'm making something up?

All I remember is a bunch of people telling me that I was ruining all the fun. Nobody told MuchMouth that he shouldn't have brought it up, or that he might apologize for his abuse, since it clearly still bothered me. No, I was the party pooper. Having a good time is more important than the question of whether somebody thinks an injustice has been done.

Which brings us to the present day. It's apparently still the policy at the Comm forum that calling attention to somebody's rotten actions is worse than those rotten actions. Let 'em get away with anything, as long as you don't bring down the room. Got it.

[TCJohnson]

My apologies. I know how frustrating it must be; I was trying to broker a little peace myself last night, when people started slinging pointless shit again.

Well, look on the bright side: at least they weren't slinging pointed shit at you. I can't think of anything worse to have thrown at me.

[Dreadstar]

.....mmmmmmmkay.

[howyadoin]

Yeah, my apology was backhanded.That's all I was sayin'.

Are you honestly telling me that you never heard of the Monkey Alliance before MuchMouth showed up to gloat? Nobody ever mentioned the worst flame-attack in CBR history?Fuck, I don't know, Jim. The name might've been vaguely familiar, but up until fairly recently I thought Monkey Alliance was another name for the Papermonkies.

Again, I've only been here for 7 years, and didn't start posting much on the Comm till the fall of 2001.

[MacQuarrie]

That's all I was sayin'.

Fuck, I don't know, Jim. The name might've been vaguely familiar, but up until fairly recently I thought Monkey Alliance was another name for the Papermonkies.

Again, I've only been here for 7 years, and didn't start posting much on the Comm till the fall of 2001.
Fair enough. I apologize.

This fulfills my minimum daily requirement of drama. We now return to kicking Olney. Any further discussion of my grudges can be handled via PM from here out.

[howyadoin]

Fair enough. I apologize.

This fulfills my minimum daily requirement of drama. We now return to kicking Olney. Any further discussion of my grudges can be handled via PM from here out.Sounds good to me.

[Papergirl]

... I thought Monkey Alliance was another name for the Papermonkies.

Hey now, no dragging me and Pulse into it! There is, from what I've been told a HUGE difference between us and them! ;)

Any further discussion of my grudges can be handled via PM from here out.

Expect a PM from me shortly. Because I DO have a gripe with you, Jim. Not a serious one, but not one I want to let sit and fester.

~Bev

[howyadoin]

Expect a PM from me shortly. Because I DO have a gripe with you, Jim. Not a serious one, but not one I want to let sit and fester.Uh oh. Somebody's goin' home with a note.

[Sarah Beach]

Fair enough. I apologize.

This fulfills my minimum daily requirement of drama. We now return to kicking Olney. Any further discussion of my grudges can be handled via PM from here out.

Okay, now, see? There's the funny I was missing: "minimum daily requirement of drama."

Thank you! ;)


(Yeah, I know how easy it is to get triggered by another poster. Aaaccckkk. Years of moderating elsewhere have followed me! And I thought I was going to be a Free Range Poster here! Help! Are there 12 Step programs for moderators???? :D

[Matt Doc Martin]

(Yeah, I know how easy it is to get triggered by another poster. Aaaccckkk. Years of moderating elsewhere have followed me! And I thought I was going to be a Free Range Poster here! Help! Are there 12 Step programs for moderators???? :D

No, but see Felipe in the alley. He can hook you up with some "H". It'll take the edge off.

[the4thpip]

Email out of the blue.

Seanie-poo!! All of a sudden, you're everywhere again!
I like it! :D

[JTPencils]

Question Germain to original topic!

I've been away for the weekend. Have there been any Olney sitings over the weekend? Has he continued to maintain silence post-serving of papers? Has the name of his alleged legal council been obtained by either JT or Renee?

Nothing further to me other then his last ranting email. Though "the attorney" supposedly has all my contact information, none has been made (attempted?) so far. So... "Alls Quiet on the Wacky Front" would be the best description so far.

[MacQuarrie]

Uh oh. Somebody's goin' home with a note.
Whatever it is, I have no doubt that I have it coming. It's one of the nice things about being self-absorbed; I get to be completely oblivious to everybody else's feelings until they smack me.

...waiting for the smacking...

[Gail Simone]

Guys, can I just ask, and I know I'm not the best person to say this...but could you each maybe try to cut each other some slack? You're both stand-up guys, this seems to be 90% misunderstanding, and...uh...

well, I don't have a point number three. But still!

Gail

[JTPencils]

Exactly.

And although he had been specifically mentioning MegaCon for this year, I know in the past he's gone to the Comicon in Pittsburgh. And one would think that the New York con would be "reasonable" for him to try to get to.


I remember when I told him I would meet him at the Pittcon to settle up our financial issues... he said at first, he was attending. Then (surprise surprise) he backed out... but he DID tell me later on that he had "people" there keeping an eye on me... to make sure I wasn't breaking his precious NDA. What really stunk was that I had made special arrangements with my regular job to have me in the Pitt area to attend the Con, but if peanut wasn't going to be there, I found no reason to go. I wasn't in the mood to spend money and just walk around with no real direction (or anyone to meet, see, chat with). So I was in the area, but just sat in a hotel room for the weekend, and got some pages done instead. When "he" confronted me about his people "checking me out"... I inquired "what did they report back?"... He said he wasn't at liberty to say... I then said "I'd be amazed if they had anything to say you putz, I didn't bother going".

ahhhhhhhhhh sometimes... I almost nearly miss the idiocy of it all... (mind you I DID say almost and nearly).

[howyadoin]

Whatever it is, I have no doubt that I have it coming. It's one of the nice things about being self-absorbed; I get to be completely oblivious to everybody else's feelings until they smack me.

...waiting for the smacking...Yikes. I'm gonna stand out of her smacking range, just in case.

[Papergirl]

Yikes. I'm gonna stand out of her smacking range, just in case.
Pfft. I already smacked you last night. :p

~Bev

[EdContradictory]

When "he" confronted me about his people "checking me out"... I inquired "what did they report back?"... He said he wasn't at liberty to say... I then said "I'd be amazed if they had anything to say you putz, I didn't bother going".
Rick has more imaginary people reporting back to him than Uncle Teddy in "Arsenic and Old Lace."

[Papergirl]

Rick has more imaginary people reporting back to him than Uncle Teddy in "Arsenic and Old Lace."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I so love that movie! :D

~Bev

[Gail Simone]

I remember when I told him I would meet him at the Pittcon to settle up our financial issues... he said at first, he was attending. Then (surprise surprise) he backed out... but he DID tell me later on that he had "people" there keeping an eye on me... to make sure I wasn't breaking his precious NDA. What really stunk was that I had made special arrangements with my regular job to have me in the Pitt area to attend the Con, but if peanut wasn't going to be there, I found no reason to go. I wasn't in the mood to spend money and just walk around with no real direction (or anyone to meet, see, chat with). So I was in the area, but just sat in a hotel room for the weekend, and got some pages done instead. When "he" confronted me about his people "checking me out"... I inquired "what did they report back?"... He said he wasn't at liberty to say... I then said "I'd be amazed if they had anything to say you putz, I didn't bother going".

ahhhhhhhhhh sometimes... I almost nearly miss the idiocy of it all... (mind you I DID say almost and nearly).



I don't know how to tell you this, but I now love you more than cheese and crackers. That story nearly made me bust a gut.

OH, MY GOD, that's hilarious!

Gail

[Sarah Beach]

"He wasn't at liberty to say....." HA!

Yeah, when you're off the cliff edge, it is kind of hard to get traction. Ask the Coyote.

[TCJohnson]

Pfft. I already smacked you last night. :p

~Bev

Too much flirting going on around here.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I had a lot of dealings with him in my 15 seconds of "non-fame" at Marvel. I liked him. His "online persona" was nothing more than a character, much in the same way a (wait for it ECWSuperfan) a professional wrestler, who for all intents and purposes is a decent person will be a total dick to everyone so there is conflict for the story they're trying to tell.

Bill Jemas knew his role. He was always gonna be the guy who came in and fired guys. He was the asshole. So he took that role in New-Marvel and rolled with it. Quesada was the good guy Editor who had to deal with that wacko Bill Jemas. :p

But guess what....Marvels not been the same since that guy left. Quesada hasn't had the same punch and the comics aren't as daring as people have listed with " Trouble " , " Truth " and the gay Rawhide Kid stories. Theres no sense of breaking all the rules at Marvel to tell good stories anymore. Its now rushed ideas that are half assed to conclusions.

He came into this business and looked at it from "real business" standpoint. The way we do things, and the way we behave are completely different than any other business model. Especially an entertainment model. So this was someone who came in from spending time sailing on the ocean and wanted to have fun playing with radio control boats in a swimming pool.

Bill in Wizard said it best. " I made money whenever I went in a company."

Marvel needed someone who could make $$$$ . Thats why he got the job. And Jemas did that. He knew how to make the BLING BLING pretty much.

Jemas gets rided just like Bob Harras but Harras had pretty much made some awesome decisions as EIC with putting the right creators on books and helping launch Marvel Knights. So Harras may have kicked some old guys to the curb and all , but he really did some great work at Marvel as EIC in his short stint.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I remember when I told him I would meet him at the Pittcon to settle up our financial issues... he said at first, he was attending. Then (surprise surprise) he backed out... but he DID tell me later on that he had "people" there keeping an eye on me... to make sure I wasn't breaking his precious NDA. What really stunk was that I had made special arrangements with my regular job to have me in the Pitt area to attend the Con, but if peanut wasn't going to be there, I found no reason to go. I wasn't in the mood to spend money and just walk around with no real direction (or anyone to meet, see, chat with). So I was in the area, but just sat in a hotel room for the weekend, and got some pages done instead. When "he" confronted me about his people "checking me out"... I inquired "what did they report back?"... He said he wasn't at liberty to say... I then said "I'd be amazed if they had anything to say you putz, I didn't bother going".

ahhhhhhhhhh sometimes... I almost nearly miss the idiocy of it all... (mind you I DID say almost and nearly).

Thats pretty wild. Maybe he had the NSA wire tapping your motel phone ? :p

[MacQuarrie]

But guess what....Marvels not been the same since that guy left. Quesada hasn't had the same punch and the comics aren't as daring as people have listed with " Trouble " , " Truth " and the gay Rawhide Kid stories. Theres no sense of breaking all the rules at Marvel to tell good stories anymore. Its now rushed ideas that are half assed to conclusions.
Aye, there's the rub. You can't seriously be suggesting that "Trouble " or the Rawhide Kid miniseries in any way resemble good stories.

Breaking the rules to tell good stories is one thing. Breaking the rules to go for shock value and stir up controversy at the expense of the story, well, that's something else again.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Aye, there's the rub. You can't seriously be suggesting that "Trouble " or the Rawhide Kid miniseries in any way resemble good stories.

Breaking the rules to tell good stories is one thing. Breaking the rules to go for shock value and stir up controversy at the expense of the story, well, that's something else again.

I actually liked " Truth " a lot. The Rawhide Kid thing was a controversial story to perhaps lure a fanbase to that character I'm sure and yeah it screams shock value. Same with Trouble as well.

But with what we saw from the X-Franchise & Grant Morrison and other work in that time period, its like Marvel decided to f-ck the rules and do whatever it took. I miss that era. That whole daring to try anything era.

[TCJohnson]

I remember when I told him I would meet him at the Pittcon to settle up our financial issues... he said at first, he was attending. Then (surprise surprise) he backed out... but he DID tell me later on that he had "people" there keeping an eye on me... to make sure I wasn't breaking his precious NDA. What really stunk was that I had made special arrangements with my regular job to have me in the Pitt area to attend the Con, but if peanut wasn't going to be there, I found no reason to go. I wasn't in the mood to spend money and just walk around with no real direction (or anyone to meet, see, chat with). So I was in the area, but just sat in a hotel room for the weekend, and got some pages done instead. When "he" confronted me about his people "checking me out"... I inquired "what did they report back?"... He said he wasn't at liberty to say... I then said "I'd be amazed if they had anything to say you putz, I didn't bother going".

ahhhhhhhhhh sometimes... I almost nearly miss the idiocy of it all... (mind you I DID say almost and nearly).


And his agents then wondered exactly who the hell they were following.

[Gail Simone]

I would tell you what I think of Olney, but I'm not at liberty to say.

Gail

[PatrickG]

Rick Olney and the agents of O.R.C.A.

Keeping business dealings top secret for over ten years.

If he's going to blow money on lawyers instead of paying people, he might as well go with an eyepatch and a box of cigars to complete the persona.

[MacQuarrie]

I actually liked " Truth " a lot. The Rawhide Kid thing was a controversial story to perhaps lure a fanbase to that character I'm sure and yeah it screams shock value. Same with Trouble as well.

But with what we saw from the X-Franchise & Grant Morrison and other work in that time period, its like Marvel decided to f-ck the rules and do whatever it took. I miss that era. That whole daring to try anything era.

Truth... was that the one with the black Captain America? I somehow missed that one.

"Trouble" was emphatically not good. Nor was that weird book that Jemas allegedly scripted, the title of which escapes me.

[Perry Holley]

Nor was that weird book that Jemas allegedly scripted, the title of which escapes me.'Marville', perhaps? AKA "the comic book so bad it makes Rob Liefeld's Youngblood look good by comparison."

[MacQuarrie]

'Marville', perhaps? AKA "the comic book so bad it makes Rob Liefeld's Youngblood look good by comparison."

That's the one. The comic Olney aspired to.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Too much flirting going on around here.

I ain't gettin' none.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

'Marville', perhaps? AKA "the comic book so bad it makes Rob Liefeld's Youngblood look good by comparison."

It was horridly bad. I mean so piss poor bad. But I think that was Jemas's idea. Remember U-Decide all started with that spat over raising Captain Marvel's price 75 cents. They ran a contest and the best book would win. It was just shameless self promotion but Peter David won it.....then 2 years later they relaunched CM and raised the price anyhow. :p

[howyadoin]

I ain't gettin' none.Just give Papergirl a thwack on the ass.




(Trust me, she'll think it's charming.)

[Papergirl]

I ain't gettin' none.
Awww! I'm sorry. I'll make it up to you later. ;)

~Bev
Going to go play poker soon!

[PatrickG]

'Marville', perhaps? AKA "the comic book so bad it makes Rob Liefeld's Youngblood look good by comparison."

For the record wasn't the rumor that a still-quite-new-to-the-industry Gail Simone scripted or polished some of the Jemas work?

Then again, I was really looking forward to several of the proposed Youngblood relaunches that never really made it.

[Papergirl]

Just give Papergirl a thwack on the ass.




(Trust me, she'll think it's charming.)
*ahem*

No, I most certainly will NOT think it's charming, bro.

Sheesh. Trying to cause trouble here? :p

~Bev

[Gail Simone]

Hey, didn't he say he was going to give Ronee his legal info last Monday?

Anything yet, Ronee?

Gail

[howyadoin]

Sheesh. Trying to cause trouble here?Moi?

Surely you jest.

[Danny Donovan]

And then Jann Jones would summon her Alpaca to bite him!!!

Jann has a secret desire to raise an unholy Alpaca army of the night, I do believe it's a cunning plan to either take Dan's place in a very furry, bloody, coup, or to position herself as a foil for Catwoman.

I like Jann! (And Dan!) both are really nice individuals. Although I have a sneaking suspicion that Jann's a martian. Jann Jones? One well placed apostrophe and we have a Keith Giffen Manhunter love story.

"They met in the Choco aisle at the local grocery store.. in an instant they knew they had a connection..."

[Papergirl]

Hey, didn't he say he was going to give Ronee his legal info last Monday?

Anything yet, Ronee?

Gail

Speaking of which, anymore info from the very nice lady at St. Jude's? Was she ever able to get anything out of Olney?

Moi?

Surely you jest.

Oui, vous.

And, no, I'm not jesting. :p

~Bev

[TCJohnson]

And, no, I'm not jesting. :p

~Bev

I don't think she is Shirly either.

[howyadoin]

I don't think she is Shirly either.Even I wasn't gonna go for that joke.

[Papergirl]

Even I wasn't gonna go for that joke.
I was deliberately ignoring it.

Just like I deliberately ignore anything Olney writes.

~Bev

[TCJohnson]

Even I wasn't gonna go for that joke.

I have no pride.

[TCJohnson]

I was deliberately ignoring it.

Just like I deliberately ignore anything Olney writes.

~Bev


Comparing me to Olney? Ok, that one does bother me a bit.

[howyadoin]

I have no pride.I thought it was shame that you lacked.

[Papergirl]

Comparing me to Olney? Ok, that one does bother me a bit.
I wasn't comparing you to Olney! I was stating a fact about that joke. :p

~Bev
Who has seen Airplane a few too many times...

[DarrenCawsey]

"They met in the Choco aisle at the local grocery store.. in an instant they knew they had a connection..."

Choco? I just had a weird Manhunter meets Final Fantasy VII moment.




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[Jack Zodiac]

Well you know who is *my* scapegoat? The Amish.

Those sneaky, creepy fuckin' bastards and their anti-technology!

It's easy to make fun of the Amish 'cause they can't get online to defend themselves! Ah hahahaha!

9000.

...Yay for the " Bully Board. "

I think when it hits 10,000 posts we should start picking on people who haven't done anything wrong. Like Mark Waid!

Olney would be giggling like a loon at this.

Eh, at this point, if that dumb motherfucker can be happy about anything, it'd have to be something as petty as Internet squabbles. Controversy's pretty much all he has left now, whether it involves him or not.

Hey, have you guys noticed that this thread is REALLY long?

...are you comin' on to me?

Can't we all just get along?

I mean, c'mon, the Bears are in the Super Bowl.

Rassum frassum...

I'll say this. At least it ain't the Saints.

I try not to understand, just accept.

That should be the credo for all comic fans, especially fans of Silver Age comics.

Loaded sentences/questions *do* seem to be the mode du jour.Ma! He used FRENCH in a thread.

:my head hurts:Actually, I think I MANGLED French in a thread.

Well,if you're gonna' bother speaking French, you may as well mangle it. Like Latin!

Papergirl would have your ass.

Is it fucked up that I originally read that as "shave your ass?"

...is it more fucked up that I was jealous?

[MacQuarrie]

Those sneaky, creepy fuckin' bastards and their anti-technology!

It's easy to make fun of the Amish 'cause they can't get online to defend themselves! Ah hahahaha!
The Amish Home Page (http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/4199/amish.htm)

The Other Amish Home Page (http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/4199/amish.htm)

[sk716]

You have no earthly idea... :-p

He's the devil you know.

Have you met the rest of the Yabsers? :p

[Jack Zodiac]

So, Comm/YABS is the new Comm/Rumbles?

(And once again, I am the monkey in the middle. Ook.)

Don't you mean baboon, what with that big red ass of yours? Oh ho, I went there!

*thwaps Morts on the nose with a rolled up Sunday NY Times*

The Sunday Times? That ain't a thwap, that's a crack, followed by a gush and a swollen brain. Have fun, Morts!

Is there someone I can bully? I never get to bully anyone!!!

Shut the hell up, pussy! Nobody likes you!

You're not a cute little 3 or 4 year old. I'd kick your butt, and you know it. And NOT in an enjoyable way. ;)

Aw... I guess shaving is out of the question, then?

Plus, the latter WB cartoons has the really, really racist Speedy Gonzolez cartoons.

Oh, come one, there was nothing racist about the loud, sombrero wearing, incomprehensible Mexican mouse. You're just too sensitive, ya' giant pussy!

You need new material, Miss! Stat!

:cool:

Your face needs new material!

Feel free to borrow that one in the future, Gail. No need to let this steamin' pile of McKeever push you around!

And I'm liking that Atom book. And Tranquility. You're a very talented, creative writer.





Except when it comes to burns.

Oh snap! I so did just go there! Oh-ho-ho! Served!

Um...

Ouch, sick burn!

Er, I mean... your face is talented and creative!

I ain't gettin' none.

I'll touch your weiner for a quarter, but that's as far as I'm goin'. I'm a lady, after all.

For the record wasn't the rumor that a still-quite-new-to-the-industry Gail Simone scripted or polished some of the Jemas work?

I'd always just assumed that she'd helped him write Namor, since that book wasn't half-bad. Marville was shit with shit sauce bakes in its own shit, though. And uh... if you did ghostwrite that for him or with him, Gail, sorry... but it'weren't no Deadpool!

I thought it was shame that you lacked.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. "Shame" doesn't exist at CBR.

The Amish Home Page (http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/4199/amish.htm)

The Other Amish Home Page (http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/4199/amish.htm)

I just had an awesome idea for an Amish action flick! "The Churninator!"

[Ray R.]

I just had an awesome idea for an Amish action flick! "The Churninator!"

Butter Off Dead....

[howyadoin]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. "Shame" doesn't exist at CBR.That's a lie. You never said that before.

[Sean McKeever]

Seanie-poo!! All of a sudden, you're everywhere again!
I like it! :D

Hey there, Pipper.

[Sean McKeever]

Your face needs new material!

Classic comeback! You are the burn master!




(Sorry. Been watching ATHF.)

[Jack Zodiac]

Butter Off Dead....

Good one! How about "Cape Beard?"

That's a lie. You never said that before.

Take that (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4264726&postcount=2285), asshat!

Classic comeback! You are the burn master!




(Sorry. Been watching ATHF.)

Me too! "I do whatever I want whenever I want, at all times."

[Calliope's Comics]

Man you look away for a weekend and this thread adds on 40 pages.
Since I missed the blame Gail for everything game I will not be able to blame her for the fact that I have had to increase my orders on BOP since OYL.

I had a great idea for an Olney shirt: Ask Me About My NDA


And Video Ouija is one of the best ATHF episodes.

[Calliope's Comics]

Oh and I forgot.
The Amish having websites is bothersome. But not as much as the Society for Creative Anachronism having one. I think all of those people should be forced to communicate via carrier pigeon or horseback messenger.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I had a great idea for an Olney shirt: Ask Me About My NDA




I'll make one if the ones I have for sale now sell any more.

[Gail Simone]

Man you look away for a weekend and this thread adds on 40 pages.
Since I missed the blame Gail for everything game I will not be able to blame her for the fact that I have had to increase my orders on BOP since OYL.

I had a great idea for an Olney shirt: Ask Me About My NDA


And Video Ouija is one of the best ATHF episodes.


Blame Nicola, she rocks! But thanks!


Gail

[Calliope's Comics]

I am surprised that Rick did not take credit for being this Richard Olney


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/01/17/MNG24ARHTM1.DTL

[JTPencils]

I don't know how to tell you this, but I now love you more than cheese and crackers. That story nearly made me bust a gut.

OH, MY GOD, that's hilarious!

Gail

Hurrah, I've reached snack status!!

[TomStillwell]

He inspired that doctor by having the same name. I think that doctor read a comic once too.

[Koben Kelly]

Nor was that weird book that Jemas allegedly scripted, the title of which escapes me.

Marville.

*shiver* Almost as horrible as Ultimate Adventures.

I have no problem with people claiming Jemas made good business moves for Marvel.

It was his arrogancy and personal insults against anyone (including retailers) that didn't agree with him. Claiming that anyone who didn't see things the same as he did would obviously score low on an I.Q. test.

Then I recently read a brief Q and A with him. When asked what he thought about the current state of DC, his response was, "I don't."

So. Lame.

[Blake Petit]

Oh and I forgot.
The Amish having websites is bothersome. But not as much as the Society for Creative Anachronism having one. I think all of those people should be forced to communicate via carrier pigeon or horseback messenger.

Actually, I think the SCA having a website is perfectly logical. :D

[Tages]

I honestly have no idea what you're referrign to.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=55262

Sorry to dig up my old cause celebre`, but it irks me when I see your blanket condemnations of an entire group of people for something almost none of us even know about (I joined in Aug 2003 and your thing with the Monkey Army earned a resounding "Huh?" from me), and when you've done very similar things in the past.

[Tages]

Dread, thank you. Actually, for some reason I thought that the MA thing went down during the time when you weren't posting much at CBR, so I was sort of giving you a pass. Anyway, I accept your apology and I'll offer one of my own:

I apologize for my earlier comments that smeared the whole Community Forum. I should not have done that, and I regret any hurt I may have caused anyone.

I just told Oz this in PM, and I'll say it here.

I shouldn't post when I'm tired and something annoys me. When I do, I post badly.

The point that I was trying to express, and which I utterly failed to make, is that the Community Board as a group, in my opinoin, has zero moral ground from which to criticize anyone else's behavior. We dogpile on jerks here; they just hang their friends out to twist in the wind. I'm not seeing how that's superior conduct.

I probably did (okay, definitely did) overreact this time. Hell, I overreacted in the CBR memories thread. But, as has been made clear here, everyone thought that I was stewing over a decade-old flamewar. I wasn't. I was stewing about the current mocking presence of one of the instigators of that flamewar and his utter lack of regret or embarrassment for his actions, and the forum's complete acceptance of him without any regard for his prior actions. This time, my anger is not so much directed at my perceived abandonment by my friends, as at the misplaced moral superiority displayed by them.

If YABS is a stain on CBR, it's not the only one. We dogpile on a creep who deserves it; Comm leaves their supposed friends to twist in the wind. So which is better? Add in the fact that there are dogpiles a-plenty on the Comm board, and there doesn't seem to be much in the way of a moral high-horse anywhere around. If the Olney story had surfaced on Comm, this thread would be exactly the same, except that some of the names would be changed and mods would be deleting the excesses.

But that doesn't alleviate me of my responsibility for my words. I apologize once again for unjustly hurting people by smearing the whole group.

OK then, I wrote the above post before I read this. Thanks for that, Mac.

And I'm sorry for reopening old wounds, though apparently I'm the only one still wounded and everyone else has moved on.

I didn't even know about this thread until yesterday and I can't recall even mentioning YABS more than once or twice, much less condemning it.

[MacQuarrie]

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=55262

Sorry to dig up my old cause celebre`, but it irks me when I see your blanket condemnations of an entire group of people for something almost none of us even know about (I joined in Aug 2003 and your thing with the Monkey Army earned a resounding "Huh?" from me), and when you've done very similar things in the past.

I'm not finding the post to which you refer.

There's this one: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2448092&postcount=1113

But I think it directly undercuts what you're saying here.

[Danny Donovan]

Those sneaky, creepy fuckin' bastards and their anti-technology!

It's easy to make fun of the Amish 'cause they can't get online to defend themselves! Ah hahahaha!



The fact they don't have cable proves that they are in fact pure evil. How does anyone live without seeing top shows like "dip mama in a pit of scorpians." or "who wants to be sued for malpractice"? Oh reality tv you truly have brought us to new heights of evolution. :)

Choco? I just had a weird Manhunter meets Final Fantasy VII moment.




---------------------

I don't know when the exact time DC moved Manhunter's Oreo fascination to the less "product placement" product "Choco" Much like their refering to Soda (which is a generic, non copyrightable term) to Soder (although the copyright point might have answered my question)

But it would be kind of funny to see J'onn J'onz riding a Chocobo.

[Ronée]

Hey, didn't he say he was going to give Ronee his legal info last Monday?

Anything yet, Ronee?

Gailnot a fucking peep.

although he DID write Blake that he was "releasing" Evertime back to him... as if he was being charitable or some shit, he just knew he had nothing to stand on. Fucktard.

(oh and PS: YES I am bitter and pissed off and being mean to the man. Oh the fuck well, he deserves it, all you bleeding hearts can kiss my ass)

[khuxford]

I went to read an anti-Olney thread and slapstick shenanigans broke out. Sheesh...there's about one Fibber/Mega-Giganta-Fibber post for every 10+ totally unrelated ones. I'm here for the drama, people...not to see half-wits playing the dozens.

Oooooooooooooooh...sick burn :D

[MacQuarrie]

Or is it this one?
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2452702&postcount=1525

Or this?
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2443514&postcount=1035

This?
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2443467&postcount=1032

This one?
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2440963&postcount=932

This one?
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2440961&postcount=931

One of these?
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2440607&postcount=912
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2439633&postcount=907

Sorry, I'm not seeing the part where I issued any blanket condemnations of anybody in that thread.

[Ronée]

Is it difficult to start your own threads here? Is that why everyone keeps derailing this one? I seem to see a button to start a new thread and it seems to be quite easy so someone tell me why everyone keeps bringing other shit to this thread.

[JTPencils]

Oh and I forgot.
The Amish having websites is bothersome. But not as much as the Society for Creative Anachronism having one. I think all of those people should be forced to communicate via carrier pigeon or horseback messenger.

As someone who went to Amish country in PA this past summer for a holiday (at the urgent request of my spouse), she and I were both taken aback by their not only having websites, but cell phones as well. We went to one of those incredibly touristy buggy ride sites, and there they were, setting up appointments for the day, on cells. Neeedless to say, the "charm" was instantly shattered.


Errr... uhhhh.... (how to tie this in with the main focus of the thread)... I think Chucklehead must have traded in those donated comics for a slew of cell phones, and infested the formerly pure Amish community with another evil of the "English" world. (that should do it)...

[OzBat!]

Starting other threads implies that you're willing to take part in the forum, whereas keeping all the shit in the one thread just says you followed a link and you're not really here to take part in the forum.

Or something like that.

Of course, I'm a non-drunken, non-lesbian australian, so my opinion is already suspect and any statements from me must be disregarded as such immediately.

[TCJohnson]

Is it difficult to start your own threads here? Is that why everyone keeps derailing this one? I seem to see a button to start a new thread and it seems to be quite easy so someone tell me why everyone keeps bringing other shit to this thread.


Just a couple things...

First, guys, we have to face it. This thread has already developed its own impacted center of gravity, and is pulling the moon slowly towards us, which will doom us all. No amount of late-coming, add-on rules is going to tame this twister. So I'm fine with the thread drift as long as we eventually find our way back to our holy and sacred mission, laughing at a dorkus McGorkus.


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[Ronée]

I was simply pondering WHY people choose to derail it with other shit. Not saying it was against some rule or against what Gail wants. So your post, while well intentioned, does not answer my initial remark.

But I've said what I wanted. I am done discussing it as I do not want to perpetuate the very thing I bitched about.

[Danny Donovan]

I was simply pondering WHY people choose to derail it with other shit. Not saying it was against some rule or against what Gail wants. So your post, while well intentioned, does not answer my initial remark.

But I've said what I wanted. I am done discussing it as I do not want to perpetuate the very thing I bitched about.

I know you don't want to derail things anymore than they already are, but I just wanted to give the basic answer for it. Everyone's decided that sometimes we need to take a tea break to catch our breath inbetween bitching.

Basically just using the anger sparingly. Just like when you're in a room with a group of people discussing something for a lengthy period of time, often people will take side tangents, but eventually they find their way back to the topic at hand.

After all we have to be careful, this thread runs too hot for too long, some of the ladies here might wind up as firey fems with a touch too much. ;)

[MacQuarrie]

Is it difficult to start your own threads here? Is that why everyone keeps derailing this one? I seem to see a button to start a new thread and it seems to be quite easy so someone tell me why everyone keeps bringing other shit to this thread.
All of the tangents in this thread are springing off from remarks that may have had some tangental bearing on the topic. Starting a new thread to address an off-topic remark in an on-topic post would be pointless and require some extra effort. The "start new thread" button only appears on the index. When reading a thread, if one wishes to respond to something that's said, there's a "quote" button and a "post reply" button, but no "start new topic quoting this message" button.

But I do think somebody ought to either split the thread or delete all the off-topic stuff.

[Gail Simone]

not a fucking peep.

although he DID write Blake that he was "releasing" Evertime back to him... as if he was being charitable or some shit, he just knew he had nothing to stand on. Fucktard.

(oh and PS: YES I am bitter and pissed off and being mean to the man. Oh the fuck well, he deserves it, all you bleeding hearts can kiss my ass)


Heh.

Can't help it, I like Ronee. :)

"Releasing" Evertime, yeah, right.

Gail

[Blake Petit]

Heh.

Can't help it, I like Ronee. :)


Who couldn't? :)

So yeah, we're now back to looking for someone to release Evertime for real.

Contact Ronee to start the bidding. :D

[Gail Simone]

The thread is going to be what it's going to be. It's just that simple. I'm not going to moderate it, people can say what they like on it, and quite a few folks are having some fun still, which is fine with me and a nice, if unexpected, end result.

If someone wants to do recaps of the important stuff, that's fine, but this thread isn't any different from any other Yabs thread, meaning it's its own creature and I'm not interested in 'steering' it, respectfully.

By the same token, if someone wants to take this cup from my hands and start one of these somewhere else, where it can follow whatever rules that mod believes in, trust me, I'm FINE with that notion.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Who couldn't? :)

So yeah, we're now back to looking for someone to release Evertime for real.

Contact Ronee to start the bidding. :D

I "release" you to do so. :)

Gail

[Ronée]

I "release" you to do so. :)

Gail
oh go ahead and copy the message from Rick here Blake darling... I find it cute.

[TomStillwell]

I "release" you to do so. :)

Gail


What is this? A S&M club?

<has bad visions of Olney in the Gimp suit from Pulp Fiction>

[Tages]

I'm not finding the post to which you refer.

There's this one: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2448092&postcount=1113

But I think it directly undercuts what you're saying here.

What that means is, if you perceive hostility toward your posts on the Community Forum, it isn't because you're a rumbler. It's because something in the way you present your message is not being taken well. In other words, it's not your affiliation that's the problem, it's your presentation.

Fuck the Comm Board Hivemind

I'm not the only one.

[Blake Petit]

oh go ahead and copy the message from Rick here Blake darling... I find it cute.

Well, under advisement from my manager... ;)

Blake
Body: You're free. I'm not going to be any cause of problems for you regarding your contract. Good luck getting a publisher for your book. Thank you for your professional manner.

Rick

Like I said way back when -- I try to believe the best of people. I'd like to think Rick realized this would be a pointless fight, or at the least that the writing is on the wall. Not that this in any way absolves him for any of the other stuff we've uncovered. But that's just me -- I'm Clark Kent, but without the glasses and the keen fashion sense.

[Ronée]

it's the "youre free" that gets me...

[JTPencils]

Ronee, why is it that I can almost imagine numbnuts trying to do his best Yul Brynner impression "So let it be written... so let it be done!"....???

[shanejayell]

*rolls eyes*
The guy is a regular prince.

[Matt Doc Martin]

it's the "youre free" that gets me...

He remains a jackass.

Next up: an admission that he has no lawyer after all.

[TomStillwell]

it's the "youre free" that gets me...

RO: Go Blake, join the others of your kind in the wild! You're not meant to live with us. YOU'RE MEANT TO BE FREE!!!

Blake: <sad look at Rick over shoulder...reluctant to leave>

RO: Go on! Get out of here! I don't want you around no more!

Blake: <really sad look>

RO: Don't you understand, boy? You need to go home. I love you but you need to be with your own kind.

Blake: <slowly trots off to join the pack of Blakes waiting for him in the forest>

RO: <sobs> I love you, you big beautiful bastard...

[Blake Petit]

Damn it, Tom, don't write stuff like that while I've still got liquid in my bladder. :D

[bert]

ah. . finally caught up.

It was just like the good old days of a week and a half ago, when I go to sleep, and wake up to 40+ pages!

of course, very few of the posts were Olney related.

Matt. . have you gotten permission to talk about what you know yet?

I certainly don't want to stir anything more up, so I'll just say that I agree with a lot of what MacQ has said, and that is really why I don't post on the Comm board anymore. Oh, there is some other stuff behind it too. .but I just really feel welcome here on YABS, and I'm glad I started posting here. (and it's good to see some of the Comm folks like Lena, Howy, Morts, and others over here).

as for bullying me. . . .

well, It brought back wonderful memories of my Sophmore year in High-School, when my favorite shirt --which I wore at least twice a week -- was this awful lime green t-shirt, with an Iron on of a Bull in a taco shell.

and it said in big letters

BULLTACO !!


I was way too young to realize that it was just a clever way of saying "Bullshit"

(and with that, I believe I've gotten back on topic. . because if this thread isn't about Olney's bullshit, then I don't know what it *is* about).

cheers!

[Danny Donovan]

He remains a jackass.

Next up: an admission that he has no lawyer after all.


And when are we going to be getting this interesting bit of information?

[Magneto_X]

But I do think somebody ought to either split the thread or delete all the off-topic stuff.

You want to give Ozbat an aneurism?!? :confused:

I don't think (s)he wants that.

[Gail Simone]

it's the "youre free" that gets me...

It's irritating that he's trying to sound magnanimous, but otherwise, I think it's pretty tactful, considering the source. In any case, he's 'giving' you nothing you didn't already own, except proof, should it ever be necessary, that he's got no claim to your work.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

Matt. . have you gotten permission to talk about what you know yet?



Not yet. I will contact them and see.

[Ronée]

Ronee, why is it that I can almost imagine numbnuts trying to do his best Yul Brynner impression "So let it be written... so let it be done!"....???LMAO!!

"Yes child, you are free... go in love"

[OzBat!]

You want to give Ozbat an aneurism?!? :confused:

I don't think (s)he wants that.Definitely a He!

I raised copying the thread as an option several thousand posts ago, but at this point it's mutated out of control and I'm not fool enough even to try poking it with a blunt stick. No way, no how!

[OzBat!]

wanders off into the sunset to the closing credits, the music playing:

Born free, as free as the wind blows
As free as the grass grows
Born free to follow your heart...

[Danny Donovan]

Rick returns.

He posted a friends only blog on Myspace with the subject:

Revelations: Committing it to Memory (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=220854917&Mytoken=011972FE-699F-4D4C-977351AFBED266217437793)

Hope the revelations are that he's done ill to certain people and he wants to make sure he never does it again?

[Gail Simone]

Someone will send it to us, like everything else he's tried to keep private.

Gail

[Papergirl]

Rick returns.

He posted a friends only blog on Myspace with the subject:

Revelations: Committing it to Memory (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=220854917&Mytoken=011972FE-699F-4D4C-977351AFBED266217437793)

Hope the revelations are that he's done ill to certain people and he wants to make sure he never does it again?
I am sooooo tempted to make a dummy account and friend him...

~Bev

[Danny Donovan]

I am sooooo tempted to make a dummy account and friend him...

~Bev

much like trying to sign up for the mmc forums you'd have to answer a six hundred and fifty billion questions, answer 12 riddles, and swear your loyalty to Rick and the NRA on a stack of RNC commerorative booklets, all with sexy fold-outs of Ronald Regan inside. :-p

[Cam63]

Starting other threads implies that you're willing to take part in the forum, whereas keeping all the shit in the one thread just says you followed a link and you're not really here to take part in the forum.

Or something like that.

Of course, I'm a non-drunken, non-lesbian australian, so my opinion is already suspect and any statements from me must be disregarded as such immediately.

You unpatriotic bastard.

[Cam63]

wanders off into the sunset to the closing credits, the music playing:

Born free, as free as the wind blows
As free as the grass grows
Born free to follow your heart...

*Watches with glee as Elsa the lioness leaps upon Oz' and proceeds to crush his neck with her jaws*

[Papergirl]

much like trying to sign up for the mmc forums you'd have to answer a six hundred and fifty billion questions, answer 12 riddles, and swear your loyalty to Rick and the NRA on a stack of RNC commerorative booklets, all with sexy fold-outs of Ronald Regan inside. :-p
Yeah, which is exctly why I'm NOT.

Plus, screen capping all those damned posts of his here makes me never want to see his mangling of spelling and grammar again.

~Bev

[Cam63]

Bev needs an intervention !

[Papergirl]

Bev needs an intervention !
No. I need sleep. Preferably before I pass out in my chair.

G'night! The rest of Olney's posts can wait til tomorrow. And, maybe by then, someone will let us know what his myspace post is about. Personally, I'm betting he hasn't learned a damn thing.

~Bev

[Cam63]

No. I need sleep. Preferably before I pass out in my chair.

G'night! The rest of Olney's posts can wait til tomorrow. And, maybe by then, someone will let us know what his myspace post is about. Personally, I'm betting he hasn't learned a damn thing.

~Bev

Cynic ! :D

...and g'night. :)

[Danny Donovan]

No. I need sleep. Preferably before I pass out in my chair.

G'night! The rest of Olney's posts can wait til tomorrow. And, maybe by then, someone will let us know what his myspace post is about. Personally, I'm betting he hasn't learned a damn thing.

~Bev


Aww, I wish I could sleep! I am going to guess he was visited in the night by three liberal ghosts that took him on a multi-ethnic journey of discovery to give him a better understanding of the TRUE meaning of... um Arbor day?

[Cam63]

Pay the Fuck Back Your Debts Day.

[the4thpip]

And his agents then wondered exactly who the hell they were following.

And I was sure those cute guys following me wanted a date. Sigh, just another case of mistaken identity.

[OzBat!]

*Watches with glee as Elsa the lioness leaps upon Oz' and proceeds to crush his neck with her jaws*bah! Elsa is currently a pelt on my den wall!

[Cam63]

bah! Elsa is currently a pelt on my den wall!

http://www.thebigcats.com/news/2004_0601_lion_cubs.jpg

" Where's Mom ? "

" I don't know. "

" She said she'd only be gone for a short time... I'm worried. "

" Hey... Is that blood ? "

" *Sob*... Momma... Momma... "

[DocAbsurd]

It's irritating that he's trying to sound magnanimous, but otherwise, I think it's pretty tactful, considering the source. In any case, he's 'giving' you nothing you didn't already own, except proof, should it ever be necessary, that he's got no claim to your work.

Gail

Give him 20 minutes. He'll change his mind.

'It's all yours, Blake.'

'I take it back, Blake.'

'Make something of it, Blake.'

'Prepare for artificial litigation, Blake.'

'Now you can work with so-n-so; you've got what you always wanted, Blake.'

Blah blah blah blah.

This is Moby we're talking about; tact ain't got nothing to do with it. I mean, really, would someone with tact complain about how people are talking about him behind his back then create a blog to talk about people behind their backs?

If this weren't so sadly hypocritical, it'd be hysterical.




Doc 'Do as I Meant to Say' Absurd

[Sarah Beach]

This is Moby we're talking about; tact ain't got nothing to do with it. I mean, really, would someone with tact complain about how people are talking about him behind his back then create a blog to talk about people behind their backs?

If this weren't so sadly hypocritical, it'd be hysterical.

Ah, but Doc, making the new version of his blog "friends only" lets him hang on to the illusion that he is smart and witty and has a sharp edge to his retorts. Because the only ones who will give him feedback on what he says on the blog will be his syncophants anyway. His fingers have been burned: he's tried to be witty and smart in the public arena, and we turned his words inside out on him, mocked him and made snappy retorts all at the same time. He couldn't cut in on the big kid's playground, so he's gone back to the sandbox.

Just goes to show that he's not the writer he thinks he is. A real writer should have confidence that his writings will stand the test of being pulled at, once they are out in public. If a piece of writing is truly (and consistently) misunderstood, the responsibility for that is the writer's, not the reader's.

That's the thing that amused me about peanut's regular protestations that he was being "misunderstood" and "misrepresented". When many, many people read your words and keep coming up with the same reaction (and it's not the reaction that the writer intended), you can fairly safely assume that there's some flaw in the writing, not the readers. Except that peanut doesn't quite get that -- because in his own mind, he's the tops. Even when better educated folks tell him his writing is incomprehensible.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Ah, but Doc, making the new version of his blog "friends only" lets him hang on to the illusion that he is smart and witty and has a sharp edge to his retorts. Because the only ones who will give him feedback on what he says on the blog will be his syncophants anyway. His fingers have been burned: he's tried to be witty and smart in the public arena, and we turned his words inside out on him, mocked him and made snappy retorts all at the same time. He couldn't cut in on the big kid's playground, so he's gone back to the sandbox.

Just goes to show that he's not the writer he thinks he is. A real writer should have confidence that his writings will stand the test of being pulled at, once they are out in public. If a piece of writing is truly (and consistently) misunderstood, the responsibility for that is the writer's, not the reader's.

That's the thing that amused me about peanut's regular protestations that he was being "misunderstood" and "misrepresented". When many, many people read your words and keep coming up with the same reaction (and it's not the reaction that the writer intended), you can fairly safely assume that there's some flaw in the writing, not the readers. Except that peanut doesn't quite get that -- because in his own mind, he's the tops. Even when better educated folks tell him his writing is incomprehensible.

Even the sycophants stopped posting.

He has no one.

[Typo Lad]

How does a friendless person make a friends-only blog?

No really, i want to know.

For personal reasons.

cries into root beer

[EdContradictory]

Even the sycophants stopped posting.

He has no one.

"People are jerks!

Thanks for the add!"

[Gail Simone]

"People are jerks!

Thanks for the add!"

Hahahaha!

:)

I can only imagine the kind of person who could know full well how Rick has cheated, lied to and threatened SO MANY PEOPLE, and still want to hang out with him and ignore all that.

Oh, that's right.

No one.

Gail

[EdContradictory]

Rick returns.

He posted a friends only blog on Myspace with the subject:

Revelations: Committing it to Memory (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=220854917&Mytoken=011972FE-699F-4D4C-977351AFBED266217437793)

Hope the revelations are that he's done ill to certain people and he wants to make sure he never does it again?

Do you have to be a myspace member to see that? I jsut get re-directed to a login/register page

Is this the Rick blog or the Tightlip blog? The Tightlip blog's been private for a while now.

[Papergirl]

Hahahaha!

:)

I can only imagine the kind of person who could know full well how Rick has cheated, lied to and threatened SO MANY PEOPLE, and still want to hang out with him and ignore all that.

Oh, that's right.

No one.

Gail
It's still tempting to create a fake account and friend him. Except, I don't think I could take anymore of his 'writing'.

~Bev

[Papergirl]

Do you have to be a myspace member to see that? I jsut get re-directed to a login/register page

Is this the Rick blog or the Tightlip blog? The Tightlip blog's been private for a while now.
Yes, you need to be a member and on his friends list

And this is for the Orcafresh blog.

~Bev

[Gail Simone]

Yes, you need to be a member and on his friends list

And this is for the Orcafresh blog.

~Bev

Because nothing spreads the word of a failed grass roots effort like extreme paranoia and the blocking of any possible impulse viewing!

Gail

[TomStillwell]

Because nothing spreads the word of a failed grass roots effort like extreme paranoia and the blocking of any possible impulse viewing!

Gail

So that's what I've been missing! Thank you Gail!!!

[KevinTBrown]

Give him 20 minutes. He'll change his mind.

*snip*

Doc 'Do as I Meant to Say' Absurd

I guess it's too much to ask that the next time he changes his mind, that he makes sure to get one that works...

[Gail Simone]

It's still tempting to create a fake account and friend him. Except, I don't think I could take anymore of his 'writing'.

~Bev

I wouldn't bother, Bev. That whole sockpuppet thing, that's HIS game. Don't bother lowering yourself. I'm sure he's only letting in his dirty socks and his wheel of cheese, anyway.

Gail

[Papergirl]

I wouldn't bother, Bev. That whole sockpuppet thing, that's HIS game. Don't bother lowering yourself. I'm sure he's only letting in his dirty socks and his wheel of cheese, anyway.

Gail

Eh. I got better things to do than read his crap. Like watching paint dry.

:D

~Bev

[JeffreyWKramer]

It's apparently still the policy at the Comm forum that calling attention to somebody's rotten actions is worse than those rotten actions. Let 'em get away with anything, as long as you don't bring down the room. Got it.

That's not just Comm policy, sadly. It's general CBR policy, just like it's okay for someone to lie right and left on CBR, but it's not okay to call a CBR poster a liar, even when they are demonstrably lying.

[Typo Lad]

Check your baggage at the door, please.

[Kurt Busiek]

It's irritating that he's trying to sound magnanimous, but otherwise, I think it's pretty tactful, considering the source. In any case, he's 'giving' you nothing you didn't already own, except proof, should it ever be necessary, that he's got no claim to your work.

It strikes me that he's giving what he was asked for, for once -- an acknowledgement that the contract is indeed terminated.

He was sent a letter terminating the contract. He's acknowledging that it's terminated. "You're free" isn't something that can only be interpreted as "I have magnanimously freed you," but just as easily as "Yes, you are indeed free, as you've said."

I don't see any reason not to bag on him for the stupid or criminal stuff he's done, but in this case, people started by mocking him over a word he didn't even use in the message, but was in Ronee's paraphrase, and then when the actual message was posted, it started all over again with people mocking him for their pretense of what was said rather than what was actually said. But all the message actually did was respond to the termination letter by acknowledging the termination.

Yeah, Blake's free. Is good. Nice to have an acknowledgement of it without waiting the full thirty days.

kdb

[Gail Simone]

It strikes me that he's giving what he was asked for, for once -- an acknowledgement that the contract is indeed terminated.

He was sent a letter terminating the contract. He's acknowledging that it's terminated. "You're free" isn't something that can only be interpreted as "I have magnanimously freed you," but just as easily as "Yes, you are indeed free, as you've said."

I don't see any reason not to bag on him for the stupid or criminal stuff he's done, but in this case, people started by mocking him over a word he didn't even use in the message, but was in Ronee's paraphrase, and then when the actual message was posted, it started all over again with people mocking him for their pretense of what was said rather than what was actually said. But all the message actually did was respond to the termination letter by acknowledging the termination.

Yeah, Blake's free. Is good. Nice to have an acknowledgement of it without waiting the full thirty days.

kdb

I tend to agree, as I said. I think it's pretty tactful, considering his previous attempts to threaten to keep clutching onto it through legal means.

Whether he's being careful or he simply realized he had no hold, don't know.

But the ultimate graceful gesture at this point would be to make some sort of payments to those he owes money to, no matter how small.

Gail

[Sarah Beach]

I tend to agree, as I said. I think it's pretty tactful, considering his previous attempts to threaten to keep clutching onto it through legal means.

Whether he's being careful or he simply realized he had no hold, don't know.

But the ultimate graceful gesture at this point would be to make some sort of payments to those he owes money to, no matter how small.

Gail

Yeah, much as I might want to mock, and as much as I've been conditioned to read underground sarcasm in RO's use of language, the missive to Blake was short and (surprisingly) to the point. I guess after seeing so many of his barbed dismissals, it's just so easy to read hidden barbs into this one.

More to the point now, Blake can take this charming proposal to other publishers and find a home for it.

And Blake, you sure as heck better do so, because I want to read it! :D

[THEDOC]

Sam e-mailed me on Myspace a few days ago. He's broken ties with Rick as well.

Does that make Dennis his only supporter now?

[THEDOC]

The way a board thread can move around a central topic but go out on seperate tributaries before joining again, then seperating, and so forth. This is why message boards can truly an interesting place to interact with others.


Oh yeah, kinda like Hypertime.:)

[Ray R.]

That's not just Comm policy, sadly. It's general CBR policy, just like it's okay for someone to lie right and left on CBR, but it's not okay to call a CBR poster a liar, even when they are demonstrably lying.

Generalize much, Jeff?

[Typo Lad]

Baggage. Door. Check.

Just becuase Olney is a douche to people doesn't mean we have to be douches to each other.

Don't let him change us!

[THEDOC]

much like trying to sign up for the mmc forums you'd have to answer a six hundred and fifty billion questions, answer 12 riddles, and swear your loyalty to Rick and the NRA on a stack of RNC commerorative booklets, all with sexy fold-outs of Ronald Regan inside. :-p

Tried to have my son register on MMC using fake info so he could keep a tab but never got a confirmation and now that I thik about it I used his computer to lok at MMC before I was banned so I am sure "Rick" has a list of IP's to ban.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Aww...the creepy hentai porn pic is gone from his blog.

http://a45.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/m_f5554d267418c3b930ea96daf360cecc.jpg

So tough now...grrrrr....

[Papergirl]

Aww...the creepy hentai porn pic is gone from his blog.

http://a45.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/m_f5554d267418c3b930ea96daf360cecc.jpg

So tough now...grrrrr....
He must have JUST changed it, then.

~Bev

[Gail Simone]

Ewwwwwwwwww!

Ick.

Gail

[Papergirl]

Ewwwwwwwwww!

Ick.

Gail
The man doesn't have issues. He has volumes.

~Bev
Who is not sure which image is creepier! :eek:

[Blake Petit]

It strikes me that he's giving what he was asked for, for once -- an acknowledgement that the contract is indeed terminated.

He was sent a letter terminating the contract. He's acknowledging that it's terminated. "You're free" isn't something that can only be interpreted as "I have magnanimously freed you," but just as easily as "Yes, you are indeed free, as you've said."

I don't see any reason not to bag on him for the stupid or criminal stuff he's done, but in this case, people started by mocking him over a word he didn't even use in the message, but was in Ronee's paraphrase, and then when the actual message was posted, it started all over again with people mocking him for their pretense of what was said rather than what was actually said. But all the message actually did was respond to the termination letter by acknowledging the termination.

Yeah, Blake's free. Is good. Nice to have an acknowledgement of it without waiting the full thirty days.

kdb

That was pretty much my feelings about it as well, Kurt. Like I said, I want to, try to think the best of something.

[Blake Petit]

Yeah, much as I might want to mock, and as much as I've been conditioned to read underground sarcasm in RO's use of language, the missive to Blake was short and (surprisingly) to the point. I guess after seeing so many of his barbed dismissals, it's just so easy to read hidden barbs into this one.

More to the point now, Blake can take this charming proposal to other publishers and find a home for it.

And Blake, you sure as heck better do so, because I want to read it! :D

Aw, shucks. :)

I'm kinda dying to see what it looks like all penciled and inked, myself. ;)

[AIPman1]

By the way, folks - Gail is going to be the Guest of Honor at tonight's SPA Chat. For those of you who are following this thread, and want to get to know more about Gail, this is a great opportunity. It will be at 7:30 PM Eastern time, tonight, at the Dimestore site.

www.dimestoreproductions.com

log in (registering is fast and easy) then look at the Members Menu, spot the Chat link, click it, and you'll be in the chat!

hope many of you can make it.

[Kozemp]

The man doesn't have issues. He has volumes.


Given the context, I think it is funnier to say:

"He doesn't have issues, he has TRADES."

JLK
who also has many trades. the comic book kind. really.

[Papergirl]

Given the context, I think it is funnier to say:

"He doesn't have issues, he has TRADES."

JLK
who also has many trades. the comic book kind. really.
HA! Very true!

~Bev

[Kurt Busiek]

But the ultimate graceful gesture at this point would be to make some sort of payments to those he owes money to, no matter how small.

Sure. That's irrelevant to the question of whether "You're free" is a pretense at magnanimity or just an admission of fact, though.

kdb

[amboy00]

Sure. That's irrelevant to the question of whether "You're free" is a pretense at magnanimity or just an admission of fact, though.

kdb
I liked "magnanimosity" better.

[Gail Simone]

Sure. That's irrelevant to the question of whether "You're free" is a pretense at magnanimity or just an admission of fact, though.

kdb

Yes. Yes it is.

That's irrelevant to the question I posed on page 172, Mr. Smarty Pants.

;)


Gail

[Sarah Beach]

"Magnanimosity" --- but.... it's so appropriate. I think you coined a word there Kurt, by way of Freudian slip! It's "animosity blown large by ego".

Example: Lex Luthor displays magnanimosity toward Superman.

As for the new... imagery ('cause calling it "artwork" is sort of debatable) from the peanut gallery..... why didn't he just have the kitchen sink thrown in? He seems to have thrown in everything else!

Let's see: heart pierced with dagger & dripping blood (is it better than the dripping... spit from the tongue?); "cutesy" bat wings growing out of the heart; spider web around behind the central heart; skull capping the handle of the dagger; flaming hearts over crossed bones in the lower corners; all on a cheerful spring green background - oh, with a ribbon banner around the central heart with nothing written on it!

Just couldn't settle on one thing, could he?

I idlely indulged for a little bit trying to figure out the implications of all the symbology.... but you know what? Just like his prose, it's not worth it, because it's a mess.

Just.... (I bow to Gail's eloquence) ... eeww.

[Nate C.]

nevermind.

[Buckminster Futter]

As for the new... imagery ('cause calling it "artwork" is sort of debatable) from the peanut gallery..... why didn't he just have the kitchen sink thrown in? He seems to have thrown in everything else!

Let's see: heart pierced with dagger & dripping blood (is it better than the dripping... spit from the tongue?); "cutesy" bat wings growing out of the heart; spider web around behind the central heart; skull capping the handle of the dagger; flaming hearts over crossed bones in the lower corners; all on a cheerful spring green background - oh, with a ribbon banner around the central heart with nothing written on it!

Just couldn't settle on one thing, could he?

I idlely indulged for a little bit trying to figure out the implications of all the symbology.... but you know what? Just like his prose, it's not worth it, because it's a mess.

Looks to me like a typical prison tattoo.:evilsmile

[JamesRitcheyIII]

I liked "magnanimosity" better.

Not Latin-root-wise, but as a compound, wouldn't that be like Schadenfreude?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Not Latin-root-wise, but as a compound, wouldn't that be like Schadenfreude?

Bless you.

[Danny Donovan]

Ed, you have do have to be a member Myspace to see the fact he *has* a blog, but you have to be on his approved readers list to be able to *read* this blog as it's marked as friends only.

:)

[howyadoin]

Ed, you have do have to be a member Myspace to see the fact he *has* a blog, but you have to be on his approved readers list to be able to *read* this blog as it's marked as friends only.
That must be a short fuckin' list.

[TCJohnson]

No, actually it is a frickin' huge list because he accepts friend requests from everybody...including the invites with pictures of porn stars saying, "Hey, you are cute! If you look at my website I may have sex with you!"

He was bragging how he had 1,000 people on his myspace friends list.

[AaronJ]

No, actually it is a frickin' huge list because he accepts friend requests from everybody...including the invites with pictures of porn stars saying, "Hey, you are cute! If you look at my website I may have sex with you!"

Are you implying that those aren't legit offers?!

dammit

[Jack Zodiac]

How does a friendless person make a friends-only blog?

No really, i want to know.

For personal reasons.

cries into root beer

They start by drinking something harder than root beer, ya' big talking vagina!

The man doesn't have issues. He has volumes.

This forum needs a little rimshot button.

He was bragging how he had 1,000 people on his myspace friends list.

Dude, I've got, like, 10,000 friends... on MySpace! I know, like... Dane Cook and Jack Black and Bootsy Collins... on MySpace. Seriously, man, all kinds of "hawt chicks" wanna' bang me... on... MySpace...

[JTPencils]

No, actually it is a frickin' huge list because he accepts friend requests from everybody...including the invites with pictures of porn stars saying, "Hey, you are cute! If you look at my website I may have sex with you!"

He was bragging how he had 1,000 people on his myspace friends list.

I'm downhearted now... you mean those women don't REALLY want me?? *slump*

[Danny Donovan]

No, actually it is a frickin' huge list because he accepts friend requests from everybody...including the invites with pictures of porn stars saying, "Hey, you are cute! If you look at my website I may have sex with you!"

He was bragging how he had 1,000 people on his myspace friends list.

Yeah, there are a lot of "models" and "Actors" on his page. (and don't judge mine 'cause I know my models lol. :-p Although I do think that's why I get so many of those requests they see the other people on my thing and think I just approve anyone for attention.)

Also there are "users" like "batman" and "powergirl" although knowing him he may think Bruce Wayne actually DOES have a myspace and his request is his way of inviting Rick to join the Justice League.

His codename will be N.D.A.

[Danny Donovan]

I'm downhearted now... you mean those women don't REALLY want me?? *slump*

No, no Jim. When they say it to you, they really mean it. :p (that's what I tell myself anyway.. *sob*)

[AIPman1]

For those keeping track: Gail Simone is coming to the SPA Chat tonight, as our guest speaker of the evening. Starting officially in about 10 minutes....and going till about 9 PM Eastern time.

if you're online, go to:

www.dimestoreproductions.com

log in, look for the member menu on the left, and click the chat link!

Hope to see you there!

[Ronée]

That was pretty much my feelings about it as well, Kurt. Like I said, I want to, try to think the best of something.I HAVE tried to see the best in everyone INCLUDING him for nearly a year, I am done with that. I defended this man to countless people and put my name up to be associated with his. Excuse me if I mock him a bit now. He does ONE thing that makes a bit of sense and everyone just thinks it is all in the best of intentions, well I don't trust this man as far as I could throw him and everything he says is suspect with me.

So everyone can think me a bad person, but you have no idea what this person has done to me.

[JTPencils]

No, no Jim. When they say it to you, they really mean it. :p (that's what I tell myself anyway.. *sob*)

*whew* thanks Danny, next I thought everyone was gonna say that Rick's claim of having a lawyer was bogus too.....

[Gail Simone]

I HAVE tried to see the best in everyone INCLUDING him for nearly a year, I am done with that. I defended this man to countless people and put my name up to be associated with his. Excuse me if I mock him a bit now. He does ONE thing that makes a bit of sense and everyone just thinks it is all in the best of intentions, well I don't trust this man as far as I could throw him and everything he says is suspect with me.

So everyone can think me a bad person, but you have no idea what this person has done to me.

As long as this is my forum thingie, you say what you like, Ronee.

I realize most people have dealt with weasels at one point or another, but it's damn hard to explain just how draining and awful it is to have had any contact with Rick at all, let alone extended contact. It's exhausting and embarrassing.

It makes you mistrust everything he says, and with good reason.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

As long as this is my forum thingie, you say what you like, Ronee.

I realize most people have dealt with weasels at one point or another, but it's damn hard to explain just how draining and awful it is to have had any contact with Rick at all, let alone extended contact. It's exhausting and embarrassing.

It makes you mistrust everything he says, and with good reason.

Gail

Does this mean I won't be getting my surprise at Megacon?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20061228-230701-1.jpg

[AIPman1]

THANK YOU Gail for doing the chat! Here's a link to the Transcript from it:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,137/topic,2347.0/

for those that couldn't make it, it was a fun chat.

If any creators out there want to be guests at future SPA chats, just let me know!

[Gail Simone]

Does this mean I won't be getting my surprise at Megacon?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20061228-230701-1.jpg

That particular threat, with that particular avatar, makes me suspect that he meant a LOVE surprise!

Gail

[Scott Shaw!]

I don't know who designed Rick Olney's "Tightlip" icon, but considering how simple it is, the thing achieves a remarkable level of creepiness.

It looks like one of those CG M&M spokescharacters moonlighting as a porn star.

>Yechhh.<

Aloha,

Scott!

[TomStillwell]

I don't know who designed Rick Olney's "Tightlip" icon, but considering how simple it is, the thing achieves a remarkable level of creepiness.

It looks like one of those CG M&M spokescharacters moonlighting as a porn star.

>Yechhh.<

Aloha,

Scott!

That icon makes me want to hide children away from its massive creep factor.

[Matt Doc Martin]

That particular threat, with that particular avatar, makes me suspect that he meant a LOVE surprise!

Gail

I'd much prefer a death threat.

*must shower...can't get mind clean...*

So this is how you make me suffer, eh "Gail"?

Dirty pool, Ms. Simone. Dirty pool.

[Papergirl]

I'd much prefer a death threat.

*must shower...can't get mind clean...*

So this is how you make me suffer, eh "Gail"?

Dirty pool, Ms. Simone. Dirty pool.
*Hands Matt a bottle of bleach and a wire scrub brush to use on his brain*

That should help, at least a little!

~Bev

[Cam63]

THANK YOU Gail for doing the chat! Here's a link to the Transcript from it:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,137/topic,2347.0/

for those that couldn't make it, it was a fun chat.

If any creators out there want to be guests at future SPA chats, just let me know!

It was a good chat !

My thanks too. :)

[Jack Zodiac]

That particular threat, with that particular avatar, makes me suspect that he meant a LOVE surprise!

I told Matt I had a LOVE surprise for him, but he wouldn't give me his address. :( Maybe I should go to MegaCon.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I told Matt I had a LOVE surprise for him, but he wouldn't give me his address. :( Maybe I should go to MegaCon.

Is it bigger than a baby's arm?

[Jack Zodiac]

Is it bigger than a baby's arm?

...when we got out to parties, it introduces me as "my torso."
...whenever I fly, it has to take a train.
...it can only be measured in theory.

[Matt Doc Martin]

...when we got out to parties, it introduces me as "my torso."
...whenever I fly, it has to take a train.
...it can only be measured in theory.

I was referring to your penis, but if you feel more comfortable discussing your ego, so be it.

[Papergirl]

I was referring to your penis, but if you feel more comfortable discussing your ego, so be it.
I am so glad I put my tea down before reading this.

~Bev

[Cam63]

I thought Jack had a tiny, almost invisible to the human eye, ego.

[Cam63]

I am so glad I put my tea down before reading this.

~Bev

Still haven't got that spit shield for the monitor, ay ?

[Jack Zodiac]

I was referring to your penis, but if you feel more comfortable discussing your ego, so be it.

I'm like the Incredible Hulk, except I'm insanely horny, not violently angry, and I'm not so much menacing as I make a complete spectacle of myself...

So I guess I'm Mark Millar's Ultimate Hulk.

[Jack Zodiac]

I thought Jack had a tiny, almost invisible to the human eye, ego.

I knew Australia was Bizzaro World!

[Papergirl]

Still haven't got that spit shield for the monitor, ay ?
It's on back order...

~Bev

[EdContradictory]

I don't know who designed Rick Olney's "Tightlip" icon, but considering how simple it is, the thing achieves a remarkable level of creepiness.

It looks like one of those CG M&M spokescharacters moonlighting as a porn star.

>Yechhh.<

Aloha,

Scott!
I'm amazed anyone would ever think it was a good idea.

It's just beyond awful.

I mean... it's drooling. Drooling.

[Cam63]

He'd been better using the image of Dick Cheney in a leather thong.

[Blake Petit]

I HAVE tried to see the best in everyone INCLUDING him for nearly a year, I am done with that. I defended this man to countless people and put my name up to be associated with his. Excuse me if I mock him a bit now. He does ONE thing that makes a bit of sense and everyone just thinks it is all in the best of intentions, well I don't trust this man as far as I could throw him and everything he says is suspect with me.

And I don't blame you one bit for feeling that way, hon. He's earned every bit of that ire. I didn't want to imply otherwise -- I hope you didn't take it that way.

[TomStillwell]

I told Matt I had a LOVE surprise for him, but he wouldn't give me his address. :( Maybe I should go to MegaCon.

Same thing with me and Dan Didio. Weird, huh?

[Koben Kelly]

After reading Mr. Busiek's comments regarding the sincerity and factual nature of Olney's release letter, I felt kinda bad about my pleasure in my agreement with the sentiment that it was written as if a message from a wealthy plantation owner to his last slave. Initially, I *gasped* at the level of arrogance and the delusion of granduer that, I admit, I inferred. Kurt's post made me feel like the short sidekick in A Christmas Story, cheering his befreckled idol on, as the bigger kid whomps away.

Then, I read Matt's post of Rick's MySpace message. Please, someone, make a worthwhile argument that supports the possibility of it not being a so, so thinly veiled threat. I had never actually seen that menacing yet empty two-sentence bit of power-pissing before. Matt, I am amazed at his ability to go from promising legal ramifications in reaction to (not at all) slanderous comments on message boards -to- making chicken-shit, unfulfilled, electronic proposals of violence to your person.

What. An. Ass.

I really don't see myself feeling bad, ever again, for enjoying jokes at his expense.

Zivio
---Koben

[TomStillwell]

I'm amazed anyone would ever think it was a good idea.

It's just beyond awful.

I mean... it's drooling. Drooling.

Drooling...the passtime for child molesters and lunatics everywhere!!!

[Koben Kelly]

I mean... it's drooling. Drooling.

That's supposed to be drool?

Silly me. I just thought it was a big-up to fellatio.

:D

[Jack Zodiac]

Same thing with me and Dan Didio. Weird, huh?

You no good slut. :(

[MacQuarrie]

No. I need sleep. Preferably before I pass out in my chair.

G'night! The rest of Olney's posts can wait til tomorrow. And, maybe by then, someone will let us know what his myspace post is about. Personally, I'm betting he hasn't learned a damn thing.

~Bev
The process of learning requires that one accept that one is ignorant or in error before the new information can be processed. Dick can't do that. It's a fundamental part of his nature. Asking him to admit ignorance or error, even to himsself, is like asking him to levitate. He can't do it. Ergo, he cannot learn.

[Larry Dixon]

In the spirit of transmutation, specifically changing something lousy to something pretty cool:

Today I sent out the check to Doc Absurd to do five book outlines/summaries for me. Mercedes Lackey (Misty) and I are planning new books in two particular series and we want to be sure our continuity's solid. Doc's got the skilz0rz.

Got a box of neat stuff almost packed to go to Doc & his kids, to ungrinch their Olneyed holidays, too; model rockets, dolls and the like. I'll do the same for anyone who had slim holidays because of Olney---just let me know.

Doc Absurd, Mama Absurd & I met because of this thread.

I now quote Doc's favorite new catchphrase:

SUCK IT, OLNEY.

[Papergirl]

In the spirit of transmutation, specifically changing something lousy to something pretty cool:

Today I sent out the check to Doc Absurd to do five book outlines/summaries for me. Mercedes Lackey (Misty) and I are planning new books in two particular series and we want to be sure our continuity's solid. Doc's got the skilz0rz.

Got a box of neat stuff almost packed to go to Doc & his kids, to ungrinch their Olneyed holidays, too; model rockets, dolls and the like. I'll do the same for anyone who had slim holidays because of Olney---just let me know.

Doc Absurd, Mama Absurd & I met because of this thread.

I now quote Doc's favorite new catchphrase:

SUCK IT, OLNEY.
Larry, that just made me grin big. What wonderful news, and what wonderful people you and Misty are! I am so glad to see so much good coming from all of this!

~Bev
So proud to be acquainted with such a caring group of people!

[MacQuarrie]

In the spirit of transmutation, specifically changing something lousy to something pretty cool:

Today I sent out the check to Doc Absurd to do five book outlines/summaries for me. Mercedes Lackey (Misty) and I are planning new books in two particular series and we want to be sure our continuity's solid. Doc's got the skilz0rz.

Got a box of neat stuff almost packed to go to Doc & his kids, to ungrinch their Olneyed holidays, too; model rockets, dolls and the like. I'll do the same for anyone who had slim holidays because of Olney---just let me know.

Doc Absurd, Mama Absurd & I met because of this thread.

I now quote Doc's favorite new catchphrase:

SUCK IT, OLNEY.
I salute you. You are a mensch. But we all knew that already. Good on ya.

[Danny Donovan]

*whew* thanks Danny, next I thought everyone was gonna say that Rick's claim of having a lawyer was bogus too.....

.....um... Just be happy about the myspace girls Jim....

:p

[howyadoin]

In the spirit of transmutation, specifically changing something lousy to something pretty cool:

Today I sent out the check to Doc Absurd to do five book outlines/summaries for me. Mercedes Lackey (Misty) and I are planning new books in two particular series and we want to be sure our continuity's solid. Doc's got the skilz0rz.You. are. The Man.

[Danny Donovan]

In the spirit of transmutation, specifically

Got a box of neat stuff almost packed to go to Doc & his kids, to ungrinch their Olneyed holidays, too; model rockets, dolls and the like. I'll do the same for anyone who had slim holidays because of Olney---just let me know.



I want a pony!!! A FLYING PONY

:p

But seriously, Larry you and Misty are good people. I'm proud to know ya.

[MacQuarrie]

I might as well post this here, where everyone is most likely to see it...

Because of my insane addiction to this thread, I had to ask my IT manager at work to block the CBR forums in my firewall before I get myself fired. So you're not going to see me posting (I'm in invisible mode all the time, so you never actually see me posting, but I digress) between 9:00 am and 6:00 pm Pacific time during the week. If you're expecting me to reply to something, you'll have to wait until evening, and then it'll be short bursts of activity. I have a lot of other things taking up my time lately, so I can only pop in here in between things.

But my e-mail gets checked at least 6 times an hour.

Carry on.

[Larry Dixon]

I want a pony!!! A FLYING PONY

I think I could do that.

Once.

Never mind, "falling" isn't the same as "flying."

CURSE YOU, PHYSICS! You've ruined Danny's present!

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Does this mean I won't be getting my surprise at Megacon?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20061228-230701-1.jpg

I think he likes you.

JP

[Crowley]

That's me as well Jim. I just had to tell myself to peak once or twice during the day...


This thread is CRACK!

[Cam63]

A beer for the good guys.

[PatrickG]

That particular threat, with that particular avatar, makes me suspect that he meant a LOVE surprise!

Gail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmVU08zVpA

Olney obviously saw SNL's Christmas episode. Those of you who didn't, click above for Justin Timberlake's greatest contribution to music and popular culture.

'Cause THIS is where my mind went with Olney saying he had a "surprise".

[NatGertler]

I really don't see myself feeling bad, ever again, for enjoying jokes at his expense.That's fine.

However, there is a reasonable concern that when statements of appropriate chastisement are mixed with cheap shots, it makes it all look like cheap shots, devaluing the legitimate concerns.

There are enough things to be critical of Rick about that we don't need inventing offenses.

[depizan]

I can't even remember how I initially stumbled across this thread. (Reading pages of the insanity that is Rick Olney will do that.) I'm astounded that someone so stupid managed to do so much damage for so long. I mean, really, the man's response to this thread was akin to putting out a fire by pouring gasoline on it, and yet he's managed to con, defraud, and, it sounds like, steal from people for years.

If it weren't for this thread and the efforts of people posting here, who knows how long he might have gone on. I hope he really does face criminal as well as civil charges and I hope he's well and truly put out of the business. Not that he was ever really in the business, unless we're considering con artistry a business, but he needs to be far, far away from...er...everyone.

I have a friend who wants to get in to the comic book business and I'm glad this nut job isn't out there to potentially sucker her in with his imaginary comic book company. I guess mostly I just wanted to thank you on her behalf for what you're doing. Oh, and ask one question: does anyone know if he refunded the money he got from ticket sales for the canciled conventions? He's ripped off everyone else in sight; I can't help wondering if he ripped off would-be convention goers as well.

[Sarah Beach]

Good question, depizan. I don't think we've tried to track that.

I'm building a "unified" Olney timeline over on the Unscrewed website. (www.unscrewedcomic.com)

But I haven't run across any online references about whether attendees got refunds for the cancelled cons.

[JTPencils]

.....um... Just be happy about the myspace girls Jim....

:p

Oh I got a SLEW of those Danny. Believe it or not, there's one that's a big comics fan as well!!!

[Gail Simone]

I don't know who designed Rick Olney's "Tightlip" icon, but considering how simple it is, the thing achieves a remarkable level of creepiness.

It looks like one of those CG M&M spokescharacters moonlighting as a porn star.

>Yechhh.<

Aloha,

Scott!

It, like Rick himself, makes my skin crawl. It's genuinely ugly.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

In the spirit of transmutation, specifically changing something lousy to something pretty cool:

Today I sent out the check to Doc Absurd to do five book outlines/summaries for me. Mercedes Lackey (Misty) and I are planning new books in two particular series and we want to be sure our continuity's solid. Doc's got the skilz0rz.

Got a box of neat stuff almost packed to go to Doc & his kids, to ungrinch their Olneyed holidays, too; model rockets, dolls and the like. I'll do the same for anyone who had slim holidays because of Olney---just let me know.

Doc Absurd, Mama Absurd & I met because of this thread.

I now quote Doc's favorite new catchphrase:

SUCK IT, OLNEY.


I say again, Larry and Misty are the closest things to superheroes I know.

Gail

[Danny Donovan]

Oh I got a SLEW of those Danny. Believe it or not, there's one that's a big comics fan as well!!!

I believe it, I know a few that are big comic fans. In fact the project I PM'd you about dealt with that very thing. lol. If you're interested reply dammit! :-p

Don't worry Larry, reality is always ruining my best laid plans as well.

[Gail Simone]

I can't even remember how I initially stumbled across this thread. (Reading pages of the insanity that is Rick Olney will do that.) I'm astounded that someone so stupid managed to do so much damage for so long. I mean, really, the man's response to this thread was akin to putting out a fire by pouring gasoline on it, and yet he's managed to con, defraud, and, it sounds like, steal from people for years.

If it weren't for this thread and the efforts of people posting here, who knows how long he might have gone on. I hope he really does face criminal as well as civil charges and I hope he's well and truly put out of the business. Not that he was ever really in the business, unless we're considering con artistry a business, but he needs to be far, far away from...er...everyone.

I have a friend who wants to get in to the comic book business and I'm glad this nut job isn't out there to potentially sucker her in with his imaginary comic book company. I guess mostly I just wanted to thank you on her behalf for what you're doing. Oh, and ask one question: does anyone know if he refunded the money he got from ticket sales for the canciled conventions? He's ripped off everyone else in sight; I can't help wondering if he ripped off would-be convention goers as well.


We haven't heard from any yet, to my knowledge, but we did hear from some exhibitors who were displeased with him...

I don't know. Have we heard from any convention goers?

Gail

[depizan]

His MightyMiniCon site still claims he'll be taking ticket orders in March through Paypal. If he's used Paypal in the past to take ticket orders, they might know if he refunded people or not. I know it's a long shot, but I'd hate for him to have gotten away with anything. And, unfortunately, I can see people giving up on getting ticket refunds from him since they don't cost that much. But it would be a tidy "profit" on his end. It also might be mail fraud.

[Ronée]

That's fine.

However, there is a reasonable concern that when statements of appropriate chastisement are mixed with cheap shots, it makes it all look like cheap shots, devaluing the legitimate concerns.

There are enough things to be critical of Rick about that we don't need inventing offenses.INVENTING OFFENSES???

I am sorry who is doing that? There is no NEED to make up anything about the man, for he has done ten times worse to others!! The man is getting his due, that is all. Karma will fuck you up the ass if you laugh in its face too long.

I hope you have lube Rick...

[Danny Donovan]

His MightyMiniCon site still claims he'll be taking ticket orders in March through Paypal. If he's used Paypal in the past to take ticket orders, they might know if he refunded people or not. I know it's a long shot, but I'd hate for him to have gotten away with anything. And, unfortunately, I can see people giving up on getting ticket refunds from him since they don't cost that much. But it would be a tidy "profit" on his end. It also might be mail fraud.

If he did it via paypal, and didn't deliver, people could complain to Paypal and they'd refund the money by withdrawing it right from his bank account.

[Ronée]

If he did it via paypal, and didn't deliver, people could complain to Paypal and they'd refund the money by withdrawing it right from his bank account.He never used paypal before... he did ONE time to get money from ONE vendor and it went to my paypal account because Rick didnt have one, he has since paid this vendor back (the ONLY person to get money from the man and it was his to begin with)

[depizan]

That's good to know. I didn't realize Paypal linked directly to bank accounts, but then, I've never used it. Of course...that assumes he still has a bank account and that he has used Paypal in the past. Judging from the issues around people getting refunds for tables at the non-cons, he at least wasn't using Paypal for those.

Yeesh, give this thing long enough and it will suck in everyone even remotely connected to comics.


And it turns out our optimism was unwaranted. I wonder who's account he was planning on using in March. Scary.

[Danny Donovan]

He never used paypal before... he did ONE time to get money from ONE vendor and it went to my paypal account because Rick didnt have one, he has since paid this vendor back (the ONLY person to get money from the man and it was his to begin with)


Was the guy's name Phil? I am DESPERATELY trying to remember who that was that he stiffed on a big vendor thing and eventually paid back. I keep thinking it's someone I know, I recall them posting on the MMC saying "I got my money, thank you for eventually getting it to me, this will be my first and last post, I just wanted everyone to know I recieved my money"

For the LIFE of me however I could not think of the person's name!!!!

[howyadoin]

If he did it via paypal, and didn't deliver, people could complain to Paypal and they'd refund the money by withdrawing it right from his bank account.I've had PayPal refuse to give refunds after something like a month or two.

[AaronJ]

I don't know who designed Rick Olney's "Tightlip" icon, but considering how simple it is, the thing achieves a remarkable level of creepiness.

It looks like one of those CG M&M spokescharacters moonlighting as a porn star.

>Yechhh.<

Aloha,

Scott!

I really don't think you need to disgrace spokescharacters moonlighting as porn stars by relating them to Olney.

I mean, come on: at least porn stars have a good sense of being paid and paying out.

[howyadoin]

at least porn stars have a good sense of being paid and paying out.They know about money shots, that's for sure.

[AaronJ]

He'd been better using the image of Dick Cheney in a leather thong.

Seriously, don't do that to me.

Seriously. Don't.

[AaronJ]

They know about money shots, that's for sure.

My point exactly.

[AaronJ]

In the spirit of transmutation, specifically changing something lousy to something pretty cool:

Today I sent out the check to Doc Absurd to do five book outlines/summaries for me. Mercedes Lackey (Misty) and I are planning new books in two particular series and we want to be sure our continuity's solid. Doc's got the skilz0rz.

Got a box of neat stuff almost packed to go to Doc & his kids, to ungrinch their Olneyed holidays, too; model rockets, dolls and the like. I'll do the same for anyone who had slim holidays because of Olney---just let me know.

Doc Absurd, Mama Absurd & I met because of this thread.

I now quote Doc's favorite new catchphrase:

SUCK IT, OLNEY.

I have to say: You are the coolest couple in the world.

That's so damned nice and so damned good. Wow. You guys rule.

[Darediva]

Oh, is that your problem? Never got your free mug, right? I don't have your mailing address. If you cared enough to send it to me in an email or PM I'd mail you one.

Just went over to UNSCREWED, and was looking at the fine work over there and ran across this post. I must have missed it when I got up to go to the can at some point that long evening. Forgive me, the rest of you here, for dragging up a post from that long ago, but some things should be addressed.

Excuse me, mister alleged-Wiccan, but you seemed to have my mailing address long after that fact when you sent me a fricking CHRISTMAS CARD, asking me how the progress was coming on your Spider-Man quilt.

Not to mention that you asked for everyone's address during that long ago SPA chat. Anyone get theirs? Anyone?

No, Rick, that was NOT my big problem with you. Hell, I don't even drink coffee, so who cares if I really ever got a coffee mug? It was your empty promises inviting me as YOUR guest to the now infamous 2004 MMC in June that year. You know, the one where you were going to make sure I got the same treatment as the VIP guests? In retrospect, looks like I did, since it never happened.

Then, promises for the fall show, which collided with another event I attended back then (thank goodness). So, you put me on for the 2005 MMC, same promises, and then I get the email saying at the very last minute that you were pulling out of that show. Empty promises, Rick. All you ever did for me.

[Cam63]

He'd been better using the image of Dick Cheney wearing a leather thong.

Seriously, don't do that to me.

Seriously. Don't.

http://webpages.charter.net/micah/cheney.jpg

" Hey...*urrrrrp* ...Eshscuse me... Ish...is that real leather ? I haven' sheen one of thosh shince college ! "

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

http://webpages.charter.net/micah/cheney.jpg

" Hey...*urrrrrp* ...Eshscuse me... Ish...is that real leather ? I haven' sheen one of thosh shince college ! "

That is twisted....:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Cam63]

I do what I can.

[howyadoin]

http://webpages.charter.net/micah/cheney.jpgSweet Jesus, man. Think of the children!

[AaronJ]

http://webpages.charter.net/micah/cheney.jpg

" Hey...*urrrrrp* ...Eshscuse me... Ish...is that real leather ? I haven' sheen one of thosh shince college ! "

I'm having a hot-dog and a BEER, and you do that to me?!

Wow. :)

[Cam63]

How far did the hotdog go across the room ?

[Papergirl]

Holy shit, man! I so did not need to see that first thing in the freakin' morning!

GAH!

~Bev

[Tages]

If I would've known Olney was Orcafresh I would have jumped into this thread a lot sooner. Not sure if it's been added to Ye Olde List of Douchebaggery, but he said some infuriating things about Native Americans on Comm some years back.

[Chris N]

If I would've known Olney was Orcafresh I would have jumped into this thread a lot sooner. Not sure if it's been added to Ye Olde List of Douchebaggery, but he said some infuriating things about Native Americans on Comm some years back.

Jeffrey mentioned it. Apparently the threads are long gone, probably from the wipe. It's funny when he thinks it's people believing what others say that turns them against him. When a bunch of people who don't know each other just hear him talk once and all reach the same conclusion.