Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[TCJohnson]

Oh, my god, on PURPOSE?

;)

Gail

Hindenberg, Lagomorph, Jongleur....

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665105

[TomStillwell]

Oh, wait, not Kosher Kid.


Kid Kosher! The Fastest Jew in the West!

I prefer Troy Hickman's Acidic Jew.

Edit: Damn, Jack beat me to it. Still, much love for Troy and Common Grounds.

[Gail Simone]

Hindenberg, Lagomorph, Jongleur....

Those aren't PUNS!

:P

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

Those aren't PUNS!

:P

Gail

You say that like it were a bad thing...

[MacQuarrie]

Those aren't PUNS!

:P

Gail

They should have been.

[Papergirl]

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665105
Objection! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665154)

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

Rebuttal (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665169)

[AIPman1]

The SPA CHAT has started for tonight. I invite anyone here to join in!

www.dimestoreproductions.com

[sk716]

Rebuttal (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665169)

LMAO!!!

Current score:

PG - 0
MDM - 1



Sorry, Cap'n.

[Cam63]

Oh, wait, not Kosher Kid.


Kid Kosher! The Fastest Jew in the West!

" Up.. Up... and Oy Veyyyy ! "

[Papergirl]

Rebuttal (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665169)

Objection! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665195)

LMAO!!!

Current score:

PG - 0
MDM - 1



Sorry, Cap'n.

... I'll forgive your traitorous ways THIS time...

~Bev

[bert]

Oh, wait, not Kosher Kid.


Kid Kosher! The Fastest Jew in the West!

and his partner, Shitting Shiva !

(you don't really wanna know what her powers are)

[Danny Donovan]

Objection! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665154)

~Bev

I just love the game and thus join in for no good reason but I'm bored and I'm ignoring important stuff.

OBJECTION!

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665222

[Typo Lad]

Still nowhere near as awesome as Troy Hickman's Acidic Jew.

WHAT?

Where???

[Danny Donovan]

damned slow board is ruining my timing. lol.

>_< or Papergirl and Matt are just really, really, really fast.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Objection! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665195)




http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665252

[Papergirl]

I just love the game and thus join in for no good reason but I'm bored and I'm ignoring important stuff.

OBJECTION!

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665222
Objection!!! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665255)

~Bev

[Papergirl]

damned slow board is ruining my timing. lol.

>_< or Papergirl and Matt are just really, really, really fast.

We're really, really fast. >.>

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665252

Rebuttal! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665264)

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665274

[MacQuarrie]

and his partner, Shitting Shiva !

(you don't really wanna know what her powers are)

You are an odd man. Fun, but odd!

[Sarah Beach]

Side bar, your Honor! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665292)

[Papergirl]

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665274
Objection!!! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665287)

~Bev

[Jack Zodiac]

Careful, Jack...Blake slit the throat of his old best friend and sold his spleen on the black market.

I bought that spleen! We're gonna' get along great, Blake!

It was more of a beige market, actually.

Yeah, the black market only deals in useful stolen organs. The beige market carries spleens, tonsils, and appendices (do you pluralize that organ, or is it like sheep and deer?).

I prefer Troy Hickman's Acidic Jew.

Edit: Damn, Jack beat me to it. Still, much love for Troy and Common Grounds.

Quit trying to be like me, Tom! I'm flattered that you haven't shaved in weeks and grew your hair out, cut off one of your toes and threw away any chance you had in comics by calling Dan Didio "D Didi" in an app, but you can't be me man.

I just love the game and thus join in for no good reason but I'm bored and I'm ignoring important stuff.

"Ace Attorney" and "Trauma Center" made buying a DS worth it.

WHAT?

Where???

It's called Common Grounds, my good man. Top Cow published it. Troy Hickman wrote it. A whole lot of incredible artists pencilled it. It's all collected and I wholly encourage you to pick it up.

You want awesome, ridiculous pun-characters? Troy has 'em in spades.

[Jack Zodiac]

I object to your face! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665297)

[wishlish]

Objection! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665314)

[Kurt Busiek]

Then again, I created Slammazon, Gasbag and Krypto-Coccus the Omni-Germ...

Oh, my god, on PURPOSE?

;)

And con gusto!

kdb

[Sarah Beach]

And con gusto!

kdb

Good on you, Kurt! Don't let the red-head scare you away from silly names and bad puns!

(Besides, red-heads are a dying species, you know. ;) )




Besides, she's stuck in Portland right now. :D

[bert]

And con gusto!

kdb


seriously, Slammazon rocks!

and I keep waiting for you to give the Ringmaster some Ice powers (and get rid of those hypnotising powers). . . then you can rename him:

Chilli con Carny !


(c'mon. .is that *really* much worse than "Batroc ze leaper" ? )

[Papergirl]

I object to your face! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665297)

Rebuttal! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665329)

Objection! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665314)

Rebuttal! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665349)

~Bev

[Jack Zodiac]

Good on you, Kurt! Don't let the red-head scare you away from silly names and bad puns!

Especially when she's guilty of it herself. I can't be the only one who remembers Ratbag. Oh, noble and loyal Ratbag!

[Papergirl]

(Besides, red-heads are a dying species, you know. ;))

Lies. All lies. Us redheads rule the world!

~Bev

[Jack Zodiac]

Rebuttal! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665329)

I'll rebutt your face! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665366)

[wishlish]

Rebuttal! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665329)



Rebuttal! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665349)

~Bev

Double rebuttal!! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665373)

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'll rebutt your face! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665366)

Ka-ka-ka CATFIGHT!

[sk716]

Especially when she's guilty of it herself. I can't be the only one who remembers Ratbag. Oh, noble and loyal Ratbag!

Ratbag was the greatest biographer ever!

[Papergirl]

I'll rebutt your face! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665366)
Objection! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665398)

~Bev

[Papergirl]

Double rebuttal!! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665373)
Objection!!! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665403)

~Bev

[MacQuarrie]

As entertaining as this is, I want more Olney-fishing, more updates on pending action, more horror stories. We're staggering off into irrelevance here.

I checked with a Marine acquaintance, and got an inconclusive report back. Couldn't find any record of his existence, but also couldn't get to most of the records without a signed release from the defendant. As a matter of fact, a civilian can get more records than a military officer in a case like this.

I have the proper form (SF 180), but I thought somebody else might be submitting one. If not, I'll go ahead and send mine in.

Even though the military thing is utterly irrelevant, I just want to rub his nose in it and call him a lying liar who lies.

I'm petty that way.

[Papergirl]

As entertaining as this is, I want more Olney-fishing, more updates on pending action, more horror stories. We're staggering off into irrelevance here.

I checked with a Marine acquaintance, and got an inconclusive report back. Couldn't find any record of his existence, but also couldn't get to most of the records without a signed release from the defendant. As a matter of fact, a civilian can get more records than a military officer in a case like this.

I have the proper form (SF 180), but I thought somebody else might be submitting one. If not, I'll go ahead and send mine in.

Even though the military thing is utterly irrelevant, I just want to rub his nose in it and call him a lying liar who lies.

I'm petty that way.
I believe Tom said he e-mailed (or is going to e-mail) the VA.

~Bev

[OzBat!]

Do I need to break out the rolled-up newspapers on our compulsive thread drifters?

[Papergirl]

Do I need to break out the rolled-up newspapers on our compulsive thread drifters?
Hey, my last post was on-topic, dammit!

Don't make me pout at you. I'll do it. You know I will.

~Bev

[Jack Zodiac]

Objection! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665398)

Objection! You're making it ridiculously hard to continue the "your face" jokes! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665452)

[Jack Zodiac]

Do I need to break out the rolled-up newspapers on our compulsive thread drifters?

I think this thread lost all sense of law with post 5001. ;)

[Kurt Busiek]

seriously, Slammazon rocks!

and I keep waiting for you to give the Ringmaster some Ice powers (and get rid of those hypnotising powers). . . then you can rename him:

Chilli con Carny !

(c'mon. .is that *really* much worse than "Batroc ze leaper" ? )

It's still not as good as E. Nelson Bridwell's Iceman spoof, "Winter Wonderlad."

kdb

[Sarah Beach]

I've been willing to accept that he did military service of some sort. But the way he harps on the "honorable discharge" thing does make me suspect that his over-all record ain't quite so pretty.

I feel like we're twiddling our thumbs waiting while the judge conducts evidentiary hearings, from which the jury is excluded.

[Jack Zodiac]

Wouldn't that kick ass if someone here was called for jury duty for this fiasco?

[Matt Algren]

Point of order, isn't it about time to lock the thread and continue in a new one? We're well past the 5,000 post per thread maximum, and as much as I want the conversation to continue, I have to wonder if this thread's size isn't partially responsible for the ever increasing number of CBR-wide lock ups and slow downs.

I'm not saying shut it down and never speak of this again, just open Part the Second.

[Matt Doc Martin]

As entertaining as this is, I want more Olney-fishing, more updates on pending action, more horror stories. We're staggering off into irrelevance here.

I checked with a Marine acquaintance, and got an inconclusive report back. Couldn't find any record of his existence, but also couldn't get to most of the records without a signed release from the defendant. As a matter of fact, a civilian can get more records than a military officer in a case like this.

I have the proper form (SF 180), but I thought somebody else might be submitting one. If not, I'll go ahead and send mine in.

Even though the military thing is utterly irrelevant, I just want to rub his nose in it and call him a lying liar who lies.

I'm petty that way.


Again, I sent a complaint off to the AG in NY regarding his "donations", and so far St Jude's research Hospital has found fuck-all to support Olney's claims. Tomorrow I should get a final answer from them. But it looks liek there is ZERO evidence supporting Rick's claims.

I am also mailing a letter to his wife.

[Papergirl]

I've been willing to accept that he did military service of some sort. But the way he harps on the "honorable discharge" thing does make me suspect that his over-all record ain't quite so pretty.

I feel like we're twiddling our thumbs waiting while the judge conducts evidentiary hearings, from which the jury is excluded.
Yeah, his story is very fishy. At best. I sincerely doubt that, as dishonest a character as he is, he has a sterling record.

I agree. I think that's why we got so far off-topic here. Sitting and waiting with no news forthcoming is dull and boring.

Come on! News? Gripe about Olney? Plans? ANYthing at all?

~Bev

[Kurt Busiek]

I checked with a Marine acquaintance, and got an inconclusive report back. Couldn't find any record of his existence, but also couldn't get to most of the records without a signed release from the defendant. As a matter of fact, a civilian can get more records than a military officer in a case like this.

I have the proper form (SF 180), but I thought somebody else might be submitting one. If not, I'll go ahead and send mine in.

Just go ahead. What's the downside? Two people wind up with answers?

kdb

[Matt Algren]

EDIT: . . .like that one.

[Papergirl]

Point of order, isn't it about time to lock the thread and continue in a new one? We're well past the 5,000 post per thread maximum, and as much as I want the conversation to continue, I have to wonder if this thread's size isn't partially responsible for the ever increasing number of CBR-wide lock ups and slow downs.

I'm not saying shut it down and never speak of this again, just open Part the Second.
Excellent idea, Matt. It may well be a pain in the butt, not having everything in one thread. But, we've proven before that the mega-gianormous threads DO cause server issues, including lag.

~Bev

[OzBat!]

Hey, my last post was on-topic, dammit!

Don't make me pout at you. I'll do it. You know I will.

~BevDare ya. Double dog dare ya! Double dog, kitten, and Olney Orphans with big pleading eyes dare ya!

(notice the skill with which I weave in the thread subject, kiddies!)

[Jack Zodiac]

Point of order, isn't it about time to lock the thread and continue in a new one? We're well past the 5,000 post per thread maximum, and as much as I want the conversation to continue, I have to wonder if this thread's size isn't partially responsible for the ever increasing number of CBR-wide lock ups and slow downs.

I'm not saying shut it down and never speak of this again, just open Part the Second.

I think we're at the point where we can take everything after post 5,000 and start a second thread, lock and sticky the first, and wait until a little after the 10,000 post to make thread three.

This thing's bigger than friggin' Rita's, man.

[Danny Donovan]

Lies. All lies. Us redheads rule the world!

~Bev

After several years of disturbingly reoccuring choices, I can say without a doubt, redheads scare the living tar out of me.

[OzBat!]

Point of order, isn't it about time to lock the thread and continue in a new one? We're well past the 5,000 post per thread maximum, and as much as I want the conversation to continue, I have to wonder if this thread's size isn't partially responsible for the ever increasing number of CBR-wide lock ups and slow downs.I've double checked this with Jonah just today; this thread is absolutely fine and we don't need to do anything with it. The slowdowns aren't related to this thread. When the webmonkies work out what is causing it, he'll no doubt let everybody know, probably on the Q&A forum.

[AIPman1]

Thanks to those of you here that stopped in the SPA Chat, it was good to have you...hope you liked it!

[bert]

I've been willing to accept that he did military service of some sort. But the way he harps on the "honorable discharge" thing does make me suspect that his over-all record ain't quite so pretty.


Honorable discharge?

as many typos as he makes, it wouldn't surprise me if he meant Horrible discharge.

maybe he got a terrible case of the clap overseas? (that WOULD explain the smell)

[Papergirl]

Dare ya. Double dog dare ya! Double dog, kitten, and Olney Orphans with big pleading eyes dare ya!

(notice the skill with which I weave in the thread subject, kiddies!)

*pouts at Oz*

After several years of disturbingly reoccuring choices, I can say without a doubt, redheads scare the living tar out of me.

We should. We like it that way. And, if Olney was smart, he'd be needing a change of pants right now. After all, he's got GAIL going after him!

~Bev

[OzBat!]

*pouts at Oz*I have a 13 y.o (going on 18) daughter, I am superhumanly resistant to the power of the pout!

NYAH! :p




Pouting is about all Olney has left to him as a defence too, by the looks of it!

[Papergirl]

I have a 13 y.o (going on 18) daughter, I am superhumanly resistant to the power of the pout!

NYAH! :p




Pouting is about all Olney has left to him as a defence too, by the looks of it!
You forget. I have far more years of perfecting my pouting.



Olney couldn't pout his way out of a parking ticket.

~Bev

[Danny Donovan]

*pouts at Oz*



We should. We like it that way. And, if Olney was smart, he'd be needing a change of pants right now. After all, he's got GAIL going after him!

~Bev

After a less than stellar choice on my part, a friend once told me to in future see the flowing red locks as a big "DANGER! DANGER WILL ROBINSON" sign. :-p

I think they were right.

*hides*

And you know what? It's not even JUST the natual redheads either, it seems like clairol puts a handy dandy pocket instruction on inflicting fear and terror on all those that displease you in every box of red dye #478.

:-p

[Matt Algren]

I've double checked this with Jonah just today; this thread is absolutely fine and we don't need to do anything with it. The slowdowns aren't related to this thread. When the webmonkies work out what is causing it, he'll no doubt let everybody know, probably on the Q&A forum.Can we infer from that news that other threads on CBR won't be locked at 5,000 anymore?

[OzBat!]

In general, threads will still be split at the 5000 mark. It's a historical holdover true, but it also makes the threads a little easier to manage for the moderators.

This particular monster is being linked all over the web, so to make it easier for people to follow the story, it's being kept in one piece. That's the only reason I don't want to split it.

[OzBat!]

Not sure if this has been linked to before, but I found an old orcafresh post at jinxworld (http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=1159486&postcount=24) , from 23 December 2005: Re: so i got a jury summons
I've lived here for over two years now... Sorta like you, I just got a form letter from the County commissioner asking for personal details about myself, and stating that its a CRIME to not fill it out and mail it in.

Guess what?

Threw that bitch in the trash! There is no such law, and if there is -- somebody better cite it to me and be able to prove that a standard mailed letter actually reached me. It isn't that I'm anti-do-my-duty. I just hate being approached that way. I mean, offer to buy me lunch or something. You know?

Good luck with your summons!I can't help but note his complete 180 degree turn on the absolute authority of legal forms from this post to his current NDA dramas!

I wonder if he's going to treat his current summons any better than this previous one?

[Papergirl]

After a less than stellar choice on my part, a friend once told me to in future see the flowing red locks as a big "DANGER! DANGER WILL ROBINSON" sign. :-p

I think they were right.

*hides*

And you know what? It's not even JUST the natual redheads either, it seems like clairol puts a handy dandy pocket instruction on inflicting fear and terror on all those that displease you in every box of red dye #478.

:-p
*points to the text over her avatar*

I don't deny being an evil redhead. I even put that handy tag there to warn off the faint of heart.

Sadly for Olney, he pissed me off. The man does NOT want to run into me. Especially not in a public place.

~Bev
See, Oz? I *can* keep it on topic!

[Papergirl]

Not sure if this has been linked to before, but I found an old orcafresh post at jinxworld (http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=1159486&postcount=24) , from 23 December 2005:I can't help but note his complete 180 degree turn on the absolute authority of legal forms from this post to his current NDA dramas!

I wonder if he's going to treat his current summons any better than this previous one?
Probably not. They're delivered by the sheriff, aren't they? No way he could deny getting it then.

~Bev

[Danny Donovan]

*points to the text over her avatar*

I don't deny being an evil redhead. I even put that handy tag there to warn off the faint of heart.

Sadly for Olney, he pissed me off. The man does NOT want to run into me. Especially not in a public place.

~Bev
See, Oz? I *can* keep it on topic!

Someone needs to give Outlaw a makeover to make her a redhead make your avatar match. :)

there are a few that share your sentiments, re: Rick unfortionately, but I have seen things where those types of feelings honestly don't surprise me. I do hope that the "exagerations" are only limited to comics.

[TomStillwell]

I believe Tom said he e-mailed (or is going to e-mail) the VA.

~Bev

I did. They responded back that my request would be handed off to a hotline group that handles this sort of thing.

[Papergirl]

Someone needs to give Outlaw a makeover to make her a redhead make your avatar match. :)

there are a few that share your sentiments, re: Rick unfortionately, but I have seen things where those types of feelings honestly don't surprise me. I do hope that the "exagerations" are only limited to comics.
Hey, if someone has the time and wants to make her a redhead, I don't mind! :D

As for Olney. Don't get me wrong. I would never do something to get myself arrested. However, in public, I COULD legally make his life hell by asking questions rather loudly. :)

~Bev

[TomStillwell]

Again, I sent a complaint off to the AG in NY regarding his "donations", and so far St Jude's research Hospital has found fuck-all to support Olney's claims. Tomorrow I should get a final answer from them. But it looks liek there is ZERO evidence supporting Rick's claims.

I am also mailing a letter to his wife.

Ah Doc...I wouldn't send a letter to his wife. That really can be taken as harrassment and/or stalking. It's better to not open yourself up to any real legal problems.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Ah Doc...I wouldn't send a letter to his wife. That really can be taken as harrassment and/or stalking. It's better to not open yourself up to any real legal problems.

Really? Even addressed and marked confidential for the Mrs. only?

You have more knowledge on this sort of thing than I do.

I guess I will stick to disproving his charitable claims. And digging for more dirt. And rubbing salt in his wounds.

[Danny Donovan]

Hey, if someone has the time and wants to make her a redhead, I don't mind! :D

As for Olney. Don't get me wrong. I would never do something to get myself arrested. However, in public, I COULD legally make his life hell by asking questions rather loudly. :)

~Bev

Send me an image of your favorite outlaw picture. I'll see if I can beg one of my colorists to do a quick "fix" for you.

In fact one of my colorists/artists had been affected by Rick's stuff, although I'm not sure if she'll be getting involved seeing as she split when they failed to come to a contractual agreement in the manner of her pleasing.

man I didn't hear the end of THAT one for awhile. (from Rick who assumed I stole her.)

[Papergirl]

I guess I will stick to disproving his charitable claims. And digging for more dirt. And rubbing salt in his wounds.

That's probably for the best. For now.

*passes the salt shaker to Matt*

Have fun! :D

~Bev

[TomStillwell]

Yeah, it's just giving Olney something to use against you.

His wife knows what is going on at this point. He's being served and he put a legal end to TLE. More stuff is coming his way. The truth is going to hit her full force without a letter.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yeah, it's just giving Olney something to use against you.

His wife knows what is going on at this point. He's being served and he put a legal end to TLE. More stuff is coming his way. The truth is going to hit her full force without a letter.

You are right.

He had a bad week last week.

Gonna have a worse week this week.


Next week makes them both look like vacation.

[Blake Petit]

I'll make the popcorn.

[Papergirl]

You are right.

He had a bad week last week.

Gonna have a worse week this week.


Next week makes them both look like vacation.

Do tell! :D

I'll make the popcorn.

I'll bring the drinks.

~Bev

[Jack Zodiac]

You've been gone a while. The drinks are already here. Cam's got a cooler in his pants, and I have a liquor cabinet in mine.

[Papergirl]

You've been gone a while. The drinks are already here. Cam's got a cooler in his pants, and I have a liquor cabinet in mine.
... I'll bring my own, then. Thanks. :eek:

~Bev

[Jack Zodiac]

Suit yourself! Cam's pretty well stocked, though. Them's were some expensive pants.

[Papergirl]

Suit yourself! Cam's pretty well stocked, though. Them's were some expensive pants.
I'll, ummm, take your word for it. Really. I don't need proof! :eek:

~Bev
Off to bed, where I hopefully WON'T have nightmares about Cam's pants devouring the YABS board... :eek:

[Sarah Beach]

Not sure if this has been linked to before, but I found an old orcafresh post at jinxworld , from 23 December 2005:

Quote:
Re: so i got a jury summons
I've lived here for over two years now... Sorta like you, I just got a form letter from the County commissioner asking for personal details about myself, and stating that its a CRIME to not fill it out and mail it in.

Guess what?

Threw that bitch in the trash! There is no such law, and if there is -- somebody better cite it to me and be able to prove that a standard mailed letter actually reached me. It isn't that I'm anti-do-my-duty. I just hate being approached that way. I mean, offer to buy me lunch or something. You know?

Good luck with your summons!

I can't help but note his complete 180 degree turn on the absolute authority of legal forms from this post to his current NDA dramas!

I wonder if he's going to treat his current summons any better than this previous one?

He threw away a jury summons just because the preliminary questionaire was a friggin' form letter??? Did he really expect a personal note? "Dear Mr. Olney, we've noted that you've been a resident for X years now. Are you enjoying living in the community? What's your favorite food, by the way? We want to make sure we have some at hand when you come in to serve on a jury!"

Yeah, right. Mr. "Honorable Discharge".

In LA County, they're getting stickier about jury service. They revised the process, so that you don't actually have to spend 10 days sitting in the jury room on the off chance you might be needed. Now they only make you come into the court-house if they're actually planning to select a jury for a case. And they'll fine you if you don't arrange compliance (you can delay service, but eventually you DO have to go in).

But, you know... hardly a surprise he's a jerk about civic duty. Heh.

EDITED TO ADD: And what makes him so sure that it is not a crime to not fill out the jury information form? What a duffus. It might be a misdemeanor, but even so.... Like I said, a jerk.

[Jack Zodiac]

C'mon now, Sarah. You can't be surprised by him any more. This douchebag acts as casually about business fraud as someone would about jaywalking. What's a misdemeanor here or there?

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Attorney: So how can I help you?

RO: Well see, I started this this publishing company a couple years ago, this was after I scammed a bunch of plebes into giving me free comics and stiffed a ton of guests I duped into coming to my failed convention.

Anyways, I started this company up to fulfil my dream of working in the hobbies and/or industry of comics. This was my only recourse because

a). I have the writing skill and wit of a brain damaged tree slug

and

b). that crumb catcher Scott Shaw! has been keeping me down!

I didn't have any money so I solicted work from freelancers and then never paid them.

Can you imagine the that they dared to complain?!

I read somewhere that the best legal defense is running willy nilly all over the internet like a possessed loon on crack, posting whenever and whatever came to mind.

These plebes are making my happy meal dreams come true!!!

I want them sued for complaining, sued for suing me, sued for talking about me, sued for looking up information, and sued for not liking me.

So, how much can we take them for? I need some funds to publish my books.

Attorney: Mr. Olney, you have multiple suits against you, your being investigated for fraud, your company has been disolved. The best case scenario has you bankrupt and the laughing stock of the comic industry. Otherwise you're facing prison time for multiple federal offenses.

RO: So, like it's like a 50/50 chance of me making millions?

Attorney: Get out of my office.

The first one I read was better...still, you're scaring me. You a Psychologist as well here?

JP

[JTPencils]

Surprisingly enough, after being told I would be contacted "tomorrow" about his legal threat towards me, it's been 48 hours and nary a word. Guess that Perry Mason home kit doesn't come with a follow up nastygram form of some sort.

But if I do finally hear from the loon, I'll post it again.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Rebuttal (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1665169)

Papergirl: Yours was good
Matt: His was better

This thread rules. As bad as Olney was, I'm kind of glad it happened. I've had the chance to meet a bunch of you I've never had contact with. So on that note it's great.

JP

[TomStillwell]

The first one I read was better...still, you're scaring me. You a Psychologist as well here?

JP

Hehe. I do have a degree in psychology.

I have three great loves in life besides my family.

1. Writing.

2. Finding the truth in all things.

3. Figuring out why people do what they do.

[Danny Donovan]

Papergirl: Yours was good
Matt: His was better

This thread rules. As bad as Olney was, I'm kind of glad it happened. I've had the chance to meet a bunch of you I've never had contact with. So on that note it's great.

JP


qouting schumacher!

BAD INDIE GUY!

BAD!

lol.

Oh Paul Dini is rolling in his grave! what do you mean Paul Dini isn't dead? crap, anyone got a shovel and a car I can borrow, no reason in particular...

stupid backwards beatles song...

always getting me to commit felonies...

[Danny Donovan]

Hehe. I do have a degree in psychology.

I have three great loves in life besides my family.

1. Writing.

2. Finding the truth in all things.

3. Figuring out why people do what they do.

Oh my god! You're the messageboard equivilent of Batman!

holy stretched analogies!

[Sarah Beach]

Hehe. I do have a degree in psychology.

I have three great loves in life besides my family.

1. Writing.

2. Finding the truth in all things.

3. Figuring out why people do what they do.

Aw, Gee! That's why I feel so in sync & tune with you! Me too! (well, not the degree in psych - on my part, it's just amateur, but diligent study.)

When Olney first showed up over on Dixonverse, like I've said, I've been reading a book on sociopaths. But I've also read just about everything on profiling that I can get my hands on. So, as a specimen, Olney intrigued me. I "idly" started profiling him back in November - and didn't quite believe what I was coming up with. My initial evaluation, which I thought was flippant, because it seemed too extreme to be real, was: he's a sociopath who thinks he's a righteous man. Kind of scary to find out I was far more correct than I thought.

[Magneto_X]

Oh my god! You're the messageboard equivilent of Batman!

holy stretched analogies!

I guess that makes Rick the message board equivilant of The Joker. lol

[Larry Dixon]

My initial evaluation, which I thought was flippant, because it seemed too extreme to be real, was: he's a sociopath who thinks he's a righteous man.

Eh, those get into public office and board rooms all the time in the USA. They aren't uncommon.

BTW, when Misty & I first had stalker trouble of any note, we consulted with Gavin de Becker ( https://www.gavindebecker.com/bios-gavin_de_becker.cfm ). Very nice man, with a solid organization. If you're interested in profiling, one can argue that he wrote the book. :)

As the Olney situation unfolded, Misty and I were both periodically going, "Uh huh... seen THAT behavior before."

Big kudos to everyone who has dug up the latest news on TLE & Olney. Good work.

[colleen]

Um, last I looked, failure to respond to jury duty summons was a crime. You can be fined or held in contempt.

Don't know about Ohio, but most places frown on people who show contempt for the court.

I'm sure the court will be having a lot of contempt for Olney. Might as well get used to it.

c

[Sarah Beach]

Thanks, Larry! I'll look into his books.

As one who likes writing detective stories & procedurals, every reference is useful to me. I'll be checking them out on Amazon.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

qouting schumacher!

BAD INDIE GUY!

BAD!

lol.

Oh Paul Dini is rolling in his grave! what do you mean Paul Dini isn't dead? crap, anyone got a shovel and a car I can borrow, no reason in particular...

stupid backwards beatles song...

always getting me to commit felonies...

Hey, you can try to commit a felony on me. Mr. Taser does say otherwise...muhahahahahaha

ANd I never said I was GOOD...I'm just nice...most of the time *grabs mr. Taser and laughs maniacally.

JP

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Hehe. I do have a degree in psychology.

I have three great loves in life besides my family.

1. Writing.

2. Finding the truth in all things.

3. Figuring out why people do what they do.

Number three is truly the elusive one. But it does make for great writing.

JP

[Sarah Beach]

Um, last I looked, failure to respond to jury duty summons was a crime. You can be fined or held in contempt.

Don't know about Ohio, but most places frown on people who show contempt for the court.

I'm sure the court will be having a lot of contempt for Olney. Might as well get used to it.

c

Oooooo, goody! That would make that particular post a very useful one to add to the file, wouldn't it? Heh. I don't know that I've ever seen someone who was so tremendously successful at making himself look bad!

[AaronJ]

Number three is truly the elusive one. But it does make for great writing.

JP

Even more elusive, for myself, is trying to figure out why *I* do what I do. Seriously, I often feel as if I can understand others more easily than I can myself.

I guess that's probably a pretty common sentiment.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

diana_fan

Even under the best of circumstances sometimes figuring out why isn't easy. That said, it's not impossible either. In the end, you do know yourself better then anyone else. It's not easy, but if you cut through the muck, you can find answers. Sometimes quite brutal ones.

Figuring out why other people do it is at best a mixed bag. No one ever fully knows the story even with the best knowledge of a person. It's fun to speculate though. Tom does a scaringly good job with Rick...but I have to go with an earlier thing...you have TOO good spelling and grammar. You don't have the psychosis down just right.

JP

[Danny Donovan]

Hey, you can try to commit a felony on me. Mr. Taser does say otherwise...muhahahahahaha

ANd I never said I was GOOD...I'm just nice...most of the time *grabs mr. Taser and laughs maniacally.

JP

lol. these kids today never listening to records backwards..

"I buried paul... I buried paul...."

I don't fear your taser, *I* have my own bear suit version 2.0!

http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/media_archive/jan-11-2007_a.html

[AaronJ]

diana_fan

Even under the best of circumstances sometimes figuring out why isn't easy. That said, it's not impossible either. In the end, you do know yourself better then anyone else. It's not easy, but if you cut through the muck, you can find answers. Sometimes quite brutal ones.

True enough. I won't argue with that. I just have issues.

Figuring out why other people do it is at best a mixed bag. No one ever fully knows the story even with the best knowledge of a person. It's fun to speculate though. Tom does a scaringly good job with Rick...but I have to go with an earlier thing...you have TOO good spelling and grammar. You don't have the psychosis down just right.

JP

Yes, he does do a good job. Spelling and grammar not withstanding.

[the4thpip]

Since there are Borg action figures and Christmas orniments (I love a borg cube on my Christmas Tree), and the term Borg is very much Star Trek (owned by Paramount, right?), isn't using a character called Frankenborg a trademark infringement? They might be interested in tossing a cease and decist someone's way if they knew...

Eh, "borg" is short for Cyborg. If the character has nothing to do with an alien race that assimilates organic beings, he might get away with it.

Edit: as others have posted before me. :o

[Cam63]

Eh, "borg" is short for Cyborg. If the character has nothing to do with an alien race that assimilates organic beings, he might get away with it.

It was also this guy's nickname in highschool.

http://biografie.leonardo.it/img/bio/e/Ernest_Borgnine.jpg

[AIPman1]

Eh, "borg" is short for Cyborg. If the character has nothing to do with an alien race that assimilates organic beings, he might get away with it.

Edit: as others have posted before me. :o

hey! I tried alright!!!! I already got smacked with some newspaper on the nose...and now I can't smell anything but! What chew guys been smakin' wit dat newspaper?

[OzBat!]

I got bored, so I expanded on my Newsarama readers digest condensation of this thread, and threw it on a brand new blog (http://au.blog.360.yahoo.com/oz_bat) of my very own!

Yeah, I know I haven't done anything else with the site. I can't even upload some of my scribbles to the photo album thingies there, it's all very, very beta-ish at the moment!

But as I said at the beginning of the blog, if I NEVER touch the site again, I want that blog out there.

[Cam63]

hey! I tried alright!!!! I already got smacked with some newspaper on the nose...and now I can't smell anything but! What chew guys been smakin' wit dat newspaper?

The side of Lester's head, mainly.

...and it's actually a cricket bat wrapped with newspaper.

[AIPman1]

The side of Lester's head, mainly.

...and it's actually a cricket bat wrapped with newspaper.

That explains these splinters...

[Papergirl]

Send me an image of your favorite outlaw picture. I'll see if I can beg one of my colorists to do a quick "fix" for you.

Yikes! Meant to reply to this last night! I'll see what I can dig up later today or this evening. Thank you! :)


In fact one of my colorists/artists had been affected by Rick's stuff, although I'm not sure if she'll be getting involved seeing as she split when they failed to come to a contractual agreement in the manner of her pleasing.

man I didn't hear the end of THAT one for awhile. (from Rick who assumed I stole her.)

Yeah, because, you know... No one EVER goes to another company in the comics industry. They all just stay in one place for their entire career. :rolleyes:

Sorry you AND she had to deal with Olney's crap.

hey! I tried alright!!!! I already got smacked with some newspaper on the nose...and now I can't smell anything but! What chew guys been smakin' wit dat newspaper?

Sorry. I think Oz used the same one we've been smacking Olney with. We beat him so hard with it, the stench will never go away. Hell, even Febreeze won't get rid of it now.

~Bev

[Papergirl]

I got bored, so I expanded on my Newsarama readers digest condensation of this thread, and threw it on a brand new blog (http://au.blog.360.yahoo.com/oz_bat) of my very own!

Yeah, I know I haven't done anything else with the site. I can't even upload some of my scribbles to the photo album thingies there, it's all very, very beta-ish at the moment!

But as I said at the beginning of the blog, if I NEVER touch the site again, I want that blog out there.

Nice work, Oz! I've thought of doing much the same thing elsewhere!

~Bev

[G-Spot]

Just chiming in with some stuff...maybe some of this has been refrenced, maybe some not, but here's some links to Rick-Stuff from Comicon. It's just too bad the Gutters area gets flushed every so often, because alot of Rick's best meltdown's/gun rants/Native American bashing occurred there.

Anywho...read some of these things...

Rick talks of McFarlane naming a character after ORCA (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000979.html)
"...Todd was nice enough to honor our group by creating a hitman character named "ORCA" in issue #46 (or was that #47?)..."

Rick laments nobody wishing him a happy birthday (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000460.html)
"Let's just say "sincerity" is lacking."

Rick wants to box Buck (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000299.html)
"No "N's" .... no "T's" ... just plenty of good old hometown hospitality. Come get some!
Oh, and do the world a favor, pal ... Get a REAL screen name. eheheheh...."

Talking about stereotypes (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000324.html)
"There is very little honor in being cute with words."
"I'm not an authority, nor do I present myself as one to this forum. I just know "the Truth" about this matter."

Begging for books (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000581.html)

Alot of talk of Rick's Comicon past (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/42/t/000581.html)
"I never said I wasn't an idiot. I'm just not good at hiding it."
"You're not trying to do a 'meltdown' like I did last fall, are you?
Ummm, so you know ... if you need a good lawyer.."

Apologies and fake ID's (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/42/t/001014.html) *Fixed Link*
"Regardless of what I felt were 'driving factors in my making, what later was identified by others as threats, to him ... I should have been more mature."

Enjoy what you can with 'em!

[TomStillwell]

Even more elusive, for myself, is trying to figure out why *I* do what I do. Seriously, I often feel as if I can understand others more easily than I can myself.

I guess that's probably a pretty common sentiment.

My curiousity about the workings of other people started when I looked inward to figure myself out. I'm still working on that for the most part but it has made me more perceptive of the behaviors of other people.

[Mike Bullock]

I got bored, so I expanded on my Newsarama readers digest condensation of this thread, and threw it on a brand new blog (http://au.blog.360.yahoo.com/oz_bat) of my very own!


Good job. Now, can you make that thing hang him upside down by his ankles and shake the money free?

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Good job. Now, can you make that thing hang him upside down by his ankles and shake the money free?

That's a lot of assumptions there...first off money...as in does he have any? The other thing is that Rick seems to be moving quickly to bury himself...he's already dug a large enough hole I think.

A big AcMe Vacuum cleaner might do the trick though. Does anyone have one?

JP

[EdContradictory]

I've been willing to accept that he did military service of some sort. But the way he harps on the "honorable discharge" thing does make me suspect that his over-all record ain't quite so pretty.


I was thinking the same thing.

[EdContradictory]

I guess that makes Rick the message board equivilant of The Joker. lol
The Joker actually had some accomplishments.

[jesshickman]

Just chiming in with some stuff...maybe some of this has been refrenced, maybe some not, but here's some links to Rick-Stuff from Comicon. It's just too bad the Gutters area gets flushed every so often, because alot of Rick's best meltdown's/gun rants/Native American bashing occurred there.

Anywho...read some of these things...

Rick talks of McFarlane naming a character after ORCA (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000979.html)
"...Todd was nice enough to honor our group by creating a hitman character named "ORCA" in issue #46 (or was that #47?)..."

Rick laments nobody wishing him a happy birthday (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000460.html)
"Let's just say "sincerity" is lacking."

Rick wants to box Buck (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000299.html)
"No "N's" .... no "T's" ... just plenty of good old hometown hospitality. Come get some!
Oh, and do the world a favor, pal ... Get a REAL screen name. eheheheh...."

Talking about stereotypes (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000324.html)
"There is very little honor in being cute with words."
"I'm not an authority, nor do I present myself as one to this forum. I just know "the Truth" about this matter."

Begging for books (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000581.html)

Alot of talk of Rick's Comicon past (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/42/t/000581.html)
"I never said I wasn't an idiot. I'm just not good at hiding it."
"You're not trying to do a 'meltdown' like I did last fall, are you?
Ummm, so you know ... if you need a good lawyer.."

Apologies and fake ID's (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/42/t/001014.html) *Fixed Link*
"Regardless of what I felt were 'driving factors in my making, what later was identified by others as threats, to him ... I should have been more mature."

Enjoy what you can with 'em!

Thanks for the info, G-Spot!!

[TCJohnson]

That Birthday thread is just sad...

[EdContradictory]

Begging for books (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000581.html)


I want to put comic books into the hands of anyone willing to read and try to enjoy them. We need your assistance. You can help!

Send me as many names of schools, hospitals, barbershops, youth groups, or Native American Reservations via this message board thread. Be creative in your approah to determining who might like a bunch of free comic books. I'll see that each entry is contacted and that conditions are met to arrange an exchange of comics to any/all groups, individuals ect. that are interested after our contact.

The idea here is to send ORCA the info to work from. We realize that you are too busy to do the 'leg work' on this. Just pull the information out of your local telephone book. Please, the more contact information the better. We can put smiles on a large number of faces with your small show of help.

International contacts are requested as well. Please provide full contact information. The more the better!

Please note: Anyone NOT interested in publicly posting can email me (in private and confidentialy) me at: ORCA_comics@yahoo.com or
ORCA_Fresh@hotmail.com

Again, I have reason to believe that a few of you are in localities that have Native American Reservations. Please - Let us specifically do those kids and people a favor by sending them a selection of free comic books.

Thank You

------------------

WTF is up with the reservations stuff? Does he assume everyone who doesn't share is views on Native Americans must be Native Americans?

[EdContradictory]

That Birthday thread is just sad...
It's insane is what it is.

"No one said 'Happy Birthday' to me, that's why the comic industry is in such trouble!"

That's like pathological narcissism or something.

Maybe I made up that phrase.

But it's a whole bunch of crazy, regardless.

[G-Spot]

WTF is up with the reservations stuff? Does he assume everyone who doesn't share is views on Native Americans must be Native Americans?

If I remember correctly, he was trying to clean up his image some, after posting (now deleted these many moons ago) a bunch of racist comments about Native Americans and Indian Reservations. I wish I could remember the were's and what fors of it all. I do remember he pissed off a few people, especially one who's wife was Native American.

Rereading many of the Comicon threads brought back alot of chilling memories.:eek:

[Matt Doc Martin]

Just chiming in with some stuff...maybe some of this has been refrenced, maybe some not, but here's some links to Rick-Stuff from Comicon. It's just too bad the Gutters area gets flushed every so often, because alot of Rick's best meltdown's/gun rants/Native American bashing occurred there.

Anywho...read some of these things...

Rick talks of McFarlane naming a character after ORCA (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000979.html)
"...Todd was nice enough to honor our group by creating a hitman character named "ORCA" in issue #46 (or was that #47?)..."

Rick laments nobody wishing him a happy birthday (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000460.html)
"Let's just say "sincerity" is lacking."

Rick wants to box Buck (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000299.html)
"No "N's" .... no "T's" ... just plenty of good old hometown hospitality. Come get some!
Oh, and do the world a favor, pal ... Get a REAL screen name. eheheheh...."

Talking about stereotypes (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000324.html)
"There is very little honor in being cute with words."
"I'm not an authority, nor do I present myself as one to this forum. I just know "the Truth" about this matter."

Begging for books (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000581.html)

Alot of talk of Rick's Comicon past (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/42/t/000581.html)
"I never said I wasn't an idiot. I'm just not good at hiding it."
"You're not trying to do a 'meltdown' like I did last fall, are you?
Ummm, so you know ... if you need a good lawyer.."

Apologies and fake ID's (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/42/t/001014.html) *Fixed Link*
"Regardless of what I felt were 'driving factors in my making, what later was identified by others as threats, to him ... I should have been more mature."

Enjoy what you can with 'em!


Heh. More copies!

Stereotypic namecalling under ANY circumstances is WRONG! Have I called you names? No. Will I? No. Nor will back off on this topic. Those of you that CLING to this type of behavior of 'tagging' other comic book readers are IGNORANT. Clear cut, plain and simple!

Rick, Rick, Rick....how soon you forget your own words...

[wishlish]

Reading that Comicon stuff. Yeesh. Haven't they made great progress in therapy and medication for his condition over the years?

[Matt Doc Martin]

And while I applaude RICK for his apology, its like deja vu all over again. Note that along with the apology, RICK is flooding the board with a new batch of psuedonyms that I have to spend time deleting. A message board administrator's job is thankless enough and I am not prone to leniency once I finally boot someone.

HA! Comicon was sooo sick of him!

[JeffreyWKramer]

If I remember correctly, he was trying to clean up his image some, after posting (now deleted these many moons ago) a bunch of racist comments about Native Americans and Indian Reservations. I wish I could remember the were's and what fors of it all. I do remember he pissed off a few people, especially one who's wife was Native American.

Rereading many of the Comicon threads brought back alot of chilling memories.:eek:

As I've said before, he used to post the same sort of ignorant, racist diatribes here at CBR, but unless they happen to be archived in some unknown spot, those were lost in past CBR crashes/reboots.

[TomStillwell]

The irony of his signature in those Comic Con threads is daunting.

Rick Olney
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.
--Thomas Sowell, Creators Syndicate

[Papergirl]

HA! Comicon was sooo sick of him!
I recall him posting somewhere that he chooses to only post in a few spots.

HE doesn't choose it, it's chosen FOR him. The sheer number of sites that have finally had enough and run him out and/or banned him doesn't leave many places for him to go.

~Bev

[G-Spot]

After rereading some of those Comicon threads, I remembered how Rick used the sock-puppet names "Orin" "Random" and "ThomasPaine99" among others. And the way he posted to himself backing up his points, is hysterical, in a scary kind of way.

And isn't his name still blocked at Comicon? It used to come up as *****, even in Pulse press releases. If that doesn't show how sick Rick Veitch was of him, nothing else will! :D

[Draconomicon]

It's insane is what it is.

"No one said 'Happy Birthday' to me, that's why the comic industry is in such trouble!"

That's like pathological narcissism or something.

Maybe I made up that phrase.

But it's a whole bunch of crazy, regardless.

RICK "A Legend In His Own Mind" Olney

That says it all....
Good god, delusions of Grandeur.

[TomStillwell]

Here's another good one.

Yeah, you got me on the remark about "fighting fire with fire" ... but namecalling has never been something I've embraced.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Reading that Comicon stuff. Yeesh. Haven't they made great progress in therapy and medication for his condition over the years?

I haven't really commented on this issue much on this thread because as a professional in the field, I'm wary of too readily ascribing a diagnosis to someone based on very limited information - and particularly in cases like this, in which much of what is available might just be stupid bluster. Some have suggested that the individual in question may have either a psychopathic or a narcissitic personality. For the reasons noted above, I'm going to decline to state my opinion on this matter, but for information's sake, it is worth noting that narcissistic and psychopathic personality dynamics are not mutually exclusive, and indeed, there is much overlap between these two personality types.

Therapy is only helpful to those that recognize they have a problem, want help and accept responsibility for their own behavior. Even then, therapy is a very slow process and produces only limited results over an extended period of time when used in to address personality disorders. Medication doesn't help at all. If a person has a personality disorder, that's not just a condition or a problem; by definition, the person's personality - his core sense of identity and way of thinking about, perceiving and interacting with the world - *is* the problem.

This is something I work with a lot. In my clinical practice, I work extensively with individuals with certain sorts of personality disorders, most typically borderline and histrionic personality disorders. I occasionally work with narcissistic and psychopathic individuals as well, though the latter much less often since I stopped working in forensic or correctional settings. Psychotherapy with personality disorders is very slow, difficult work, and the results are generally rather limited. Narcissistic and psychopathic individuals are particularly difficult to work with, as they are almost never self-motivated to change - when they enter into therapy at all, it's almost always when forced to do so by the legal system or at risk of being discharged from a job or educational setting - and because the underlying nature of these disorders makes it difficult for the individual to recognize/accept he or she has a problem. Robert Hare, probably the leading expert on psychopathy, notes that all the clinical outcome and research data on psychopathy suggests that almost no psychopaths ever gain anything from psychotherapy, and what gains they do make either a) have little or nothing to do with the core psychopathy (i.e., they may make gains in other problems, such as depression or social skills), or more or less represent the person simply becoming a somewhat more functional psychopath. Outcomes for narcissists aren't much better.

[EdContradictory]

And isn't his name still blocked at Comicon? It used to come up as *****, even in Pulse press releases. If that doesn't show how sick Rick Veitch was of him, nothing else will! :D

I was wondering why those press releases had the "*****".

[Matt Doc Martin]

I was wondering why those press releases had the "*****".

They hate him so much, they banned his very name.

Scary.

[Art Grafunkel]

Just to give you some perspective, the very first message board meltdown I had to deal with here, way back in '98, was centered around RICK Olney. Somehow he had pissed off everyone on the board and ended up making threats about lawsuits and showing up at people's houses and beating the shit out of them etc.

:eek:

Déja vu!

Soon he won't have any messageboards left to post in... OR any cons to go to: seing as everyone'll be wearing Olney T-shirts.

Sad.

[the4thpip]

It's a monster beer!

Technically, all "Frankenborg" would mean as a German name would be a town in the Franken region of Bavaria, though the spelling would be a bit corrupted.

kdb

And I'm pretty sure beers with "Borg" in them are from Denmark, not Deutschland.

[Sarah Beach]

Reading that Comicon stuff. Yeesh. Haven't they made great progress in therapy and medication for his condition over the years?

Alas, no. Some cases of chronic stupidity appear to be congenital.

[Corrina]

I told "Mister Corrina" about the partnership, and it being dissolved on the day Olney was served. I asked whether it would protect Olney from lawsuits.

He shook his head. "No, it *doesn't* work that way."

Hee.

[Jared H.]

Thread drift!

How long do you think it'll take for this thread to reach over nine thousand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI&mode=related&search=) posts?

[Sarah Beach]

Regarding his thing about contacts at Native American reservations, I ran across something last week, doing an idle search on his name, where he'd posted to some Native American community message board, about his wanting to collect and donate comics to kids on reservations. He seemed to be looking for contact information or even an interested response.

The amusing thing, to me, was that his post just sat there in the middle of some other more general exchanges by the posters, rather like a lame duck. They weren't interested and so didn't respond.

I really should have taken note of it. I don't remember the parameters of the search that turned up the link. (If I get the time today, I'll see if I can find it.)

[Jared H.]

I told "Mister Corrina" about the partnership, and it being dissolved on the day Olney was served. I asked whether it would protect Olney from lawsuits.

He shook his head. "No, it *doesn't* work that way."

Hee.



IIRC, even though the company is gone, you can still go after the man personally.

If he dissolved the company due to bankruptcy, however, it could make getting financial compensation more difficult.

[Matt Doc Martin]

:eek:

Déja vu!

Soon he won't have any messageboards left to post in... OR any cons to go to: seing as everyone'll be wearing Olney T-shirts.

Sad.

Buy a shirt!!!

[bert]

Buy a shirt!!!

so you know of any "promotional" codes I can use to save money?

[Matt Doc Martin]

so you know of any "promotional" codes I can use to save money?

Sadly, no.

And every shirt that you buy costs me money. ( I donate, you know)

And no, there is no 501c. But I may have a V-8.

[bert]

Sadly, no.

And every shirt that you buy costs me money. ( I donate, you know)

And no, there is no 501c. But I may have a V-8.

well. . at least I'll have a nice new shirt to wear at CAPE :)

[Kurt Busiek]

If I might make another suggestion...

I just got e-mailed by another Olney screw-ee this morning, trying to figure out what to do. I suggested he e-mail Gail, just because she seems to be the contact point, so she's got the most names and addresses. I also suggested he read through this thread for information and ideas on what to do.

But you know, the thread's coming up on 600 pages now, and it takes so long for a newcomer to go through it all that that I'm not sure how useful it is in terms of helping out the people the thread's supposed to be helping out.

It's not like all the jokes and snark hasn't been fun for people to post, but after this long, it becomes a barrier to anyone trying to find actual helpful information in the thread.

If someone would be interested in distilling the thread down to actual facts, useful strategies, offers of help like Mark's, and suchlike, and posting it somewhere people can be pointed to, that would be helpful. But if someone has to wade through thousands of posts to find out, say, that Rick's dissolved the business, they may never find it. Fun as it is to tweak Rick for ignoring a jury summons (which isn't what his quote said; you've just been misreading it out of joy at having another club to rhetorically hit him with), it does tend to bury the useful data in the thread for anyone who really needs it.

I'm not saying you should stop, if you're enjoying it. I'm just saying that some sort of sifting process to make the useful, informational bits available to those who need them, in some clear and compact setting, might be a good thing too.

kdb

[Ronée]

also, I will say again for anyone interested in nailing this guy with the media... email your personal "Olney screwed me" story to his local news reporter, Brad Vivacqua at brad.vivacqua@news10now.com or call him directly at 315-225-9054. or just put people in touch with me.

[JTPencils]

Olney's latest email to me today... in regards to my request for his attorney's contact information.

"Oh, don't worry... its coming."

My response...

"With the same rapidity and assuredness as your contracts, or payment?

Seeing how you can't even supply a name, or contact information. I find your
claim's to be as empty as your threats, and your promises."

[Danny Donovan]

Yikes! Meant to reply to this last night! I'll see what I can dig up later today or this evening. Thank you! :)


No worries. Just let me know I'll toss it to Sara see if she'll whip something up without killing me. :-p Like I don't ask enough of her.


Yeah, because, you know... No one EVER goes to another company in the comics industry. They all just stay in one place for their entire career. :rolleyes:

Sorry you AND she had to deal with Olney's crap.


~Bev

Thanks. Yeah, that was really bizarre thing, considering I KNEW Sara previously from working with her at another indie company, and we lost touch over the past few years, she signed up on the mmc boards and I posted a welcome message and a congrats on being married comment and from that he derided that I was out to convince her not to work for him and to work with me.

[Ronée]

what an ass! he told me I'd have the info monday and here it is wednesday and not a damn word. The man is certifiable and deserves whatever he gets. My compassion for humanity and the tree hugging hippe in me can only go so far.

[EdContradictory]

I'm not saying you should stop, if you're enjoying it. I'm just saying that some sort of sifting process to make the useful, informational bits available to those who need them, in some clear and compact setting, might be a good thing too.

kdb

Probably a good idea.

A mod (sorry to dump it on you OzBat) could copy or move the more informational posts into a new thread and sticky it at the top of the forum.

Or (easier) just start a "Rick Olney Legal Status" thread, sticky it, copy the important stuff into it and lock it, just updating it when there's new information to report.

[JTPencils]

what an ass! he told me I'd have the info monday and here it is wednesday and not a damn word. The man is certifiable and deserves whatever he gets. My compassion for humanity and the tree hugging hippe in me can only go so far.

Maybe it IS Monday in the Olneyverse?

[NatGertler]

In some universes, it is always Monday.
And payday is Friday.

[wishlish]

Probably a good idea.

A mod (sorry to dump it on you OzBat) could copy or move the more informational posts into a new thread and sticky it at the top of the forum.

Or (easier) just start a "Rick Olney Legal Status" thread, sticky it, copy the important stuff into it and lock it, just updating it when there's new information to report.

That makes a lot of sense to me. I'd hate to see the momentum of the thread stop, even if it gets off-track at times, because it fuels new research and finds on Olney. But it does need to be summarized for people new to the whole Olney scene.

[Danny Donovan]

If I might make another suggestion...

I just got e-mailed by another Olney screw-ee this morning, trying to figure out what to do. I suggested he e-mail Gail, just because she seems to be the contact point, so she's got the most names and addresses. I also suggested he read through this thread for information and ideas on what to do.

But you know, the thread's coming up on 600 pages now, and it takes so long for a newcomer to go through it all that that I'm not sure how useful it is in terms of helping out the people the thread's supposed to be helping out.

It's not like all the jokes and snark hasn't been fun for people to post, but after this long, it becomes a barrier to anyone trying to find actual helpful information in the thread.

If someone would be interested in distilling the thread down to actual facts, useful strategies, offers of help like Mark's, and suchlike, and posting it somewhere people can be pointed to, that would be helpful. But if someone has to wade through thousands of posts to find out, say, that Rick's dissolved the business, they may never find it. Fun as it is to tweak Rick for ignoring a jury summons (which isn't what his quote said; you've just been misreading it out of joy at having another club to rhetorically hit him with), it does tend to bury the useful data in the thread for anyone who really needs it.

I'm not saying you should stop, if you're enjoying it. I'm just saying that some sort of sifting process to make the useful, informational bits available to those who need them, in some clear and compact setting, might be a good thing too.

kdb

Kurt, you might want to also send them to the unscrewed website http://unscrewedcomic.com/ There's a lot of information on what's been going on also the http://www.math.ucsb.edu/~cnowlin/Olney (http://www.math.ucsb.edu/~cnowlin/Olney) overview website.

[amboy00]

Kurt, you might want to also send them to the unscrewed website http://unscrewedcomic.com/ There's a lot of information on what's been going on also the http://www.math.ucsb.edu/~cnowlin/Olney (http://www.math.ucsb.edu/~cnowlin/Olney) overview website.

That first link is a cool summation. Unfortunately, like a coward who can't stand by his own words, Rick's statements that were referenced are no longer available. Rick has gone back and replaced his posts with some hideous look cartoon of him as a dyslexic vampire.

[DocAbsurd]

Olney's latest email to me today... in regards to my request for his attorney's contact information.

"Oh, don't worry... its coming."

My response...

"With the same rapidity and assuredness as your contracts, or payment?

Seeing how you can't even supply a name, or contact information. I find your
claim's to be as empty as your threats, and your promises."

what an ass! he told me I'd have the info monday and here it is wednesday and not a damn word. The man is certifiable and deserves whatever he gets. My compassion for humanity and the tree hugging hippe in me can only go so far.

Holy fecking shyte, when is he gonna realize the time for veiled threats and inaction is over? He's busier trying to cover his tracks and indiscretions than he is seeking the so-called 'damages' through the legal system he alternately loves and despises.

Think about it:

If you had an attorney on retainer who provided you with the advice on the actions that Moby's been taking lately, wouldn't you be more than happy to toss his name around?

This is like watching a captive cricket scramble to the next bit of shadow after the last one's been removed. And then chirp out its location.

His claims about the Star Wars character have been refuted. TLE is kaput. Investigations into the charity status and activities of ORCA are being investigated. Comics in the Classroom, which he's been bragging about as sole creator, turned out to have been started by someone else that he simply tried to bully outta the way cuz he thought of the same thing.

It's gonna take a lot more than one finger to plug up the leaks in his dam.

Yet he's still posturing, still ignoring what he promised, still bandying threats of legal action. Does he honestly believe this new round is gonna make him look any better under a judge's scrutiny? Feck, his actions since last week alone more than solidify our claims. What exactly is he hoping to prove at this point?

I can say it now:

Our attorney has been up in the Mohawk Valley since last week Friday. He hasn't returned yet so we haven't heard exactly what he's been doing. We do know he took his wife along with him (as he always does), and she is a fully-licensed paralegal.

Soon as he returns and we get a summary and the okay, I'll let you know what was accomplished.




Doc 'Cricket in Herkimer Square' Absurd

[Danny Donovan]

Think about it:

If you had an attorney on retainer who provided you with the advice on the actions that Moby's been taking lately, wouldn't you be more than happy to toss his name around?



I've mentioned this before in private to some people, but to be fair I think the "attorney on retainer" is something of an exageration. I think the truer idea, if he does in fact have representation, is that he's taken part in a pre-paid legal thing, which I know a lot of the small businesses in my area do, where you pay a certain amount every month and you have a person who will give you legal advice on hand at any time.

Oftentimes, (depending on how large the office is) you don't speak to the same person about the matter at hand. Basically you call in, and a paralegal takes the information you want to discuss, or makes a note that you wish to discuss a matter with an attorney, and then the case will be handed to whomever is available at the time, who will then contact you back and go over your matter with you.

"On retainer" generally applies to the fact that you have a single attorney who is contracted to you, to field any legal challenges or matters you may come across. It's always the same attorney, or rather, the same firm.

But to have an attorney on retainer (unless you happen to come from a family of lawyers like I do) it takes an INSANE amount of money every month to keep them on a 24hr legal watch as it were, where they have to drop everything should you need something.

I, like most people have been threatened conjoled, bullied, etc. when I "stepped out of line" but dealing with this sort over time I knew that there wasn't a lot that could be done, and while I'm no scholar, I do know a thing or three about the law, thanks to the aforementioned family, and Steven Bochco dramas.

While it's POSSIBLE for some of the things Rick has asserted he would have his lawyer file, they are in as much "non-starter cases" which get thrown out before the gavel hits the desk, because its a waste of courts time to deal with things that are in essence trivial.

[Gail Simone]

Olney's latest email to me today... in regards to my request for his attorney's contact information.

"Oh, don't worry... its coming."

My response...

"With the same rapidity and assuredness as your contracts, or payment?

Seeing how you can't even supply a name, or contact information. I find your
claim's to be as empty as your threats, and your promises."

I can't believe this toothless little yapdog is still threatening creators he's screwed.

Gail

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

I can't believe this toothless little yapdog is still threatening creators he's screwed.

Gail

Why not? He hasn't changed at all. The way he figures it, if ONE creator doesn't pursue it, it's one less he has to deal with. Besides, old habits die hard. Of course, justice does hit harder. :D

[Sarah Beach]

If I might make another suggestion...

I just got e-mailed by another Olney screw-ee this morning, trying to figure out what to do. I suggested he e-mail Gail, just because she seems to be the contact point, so she's got the most names and addresses. I also suggested he read through this thread for information and ideas on what to do.

But you know, the thread's coming up on 600 pages now, and it takes so long for a newcomer to go through it all that that I'm not sure how useful it is in terms of helping out the people the thread's supposed to be helping out.

It's not like all the jokes and snark hasn't been fun for people to post, but after this long, it becomes a barrier to anyone trying to find actual helpful information in the thread.

If someone would be interested in distilling the thread down to actual facts, useful strategies, offers of help like Mark's, and suchlike, and posting it somewhere people can be pointed to, that would be helpful. But if someone has to wade through thousands of posts to find out, say, that Rick's dissolved the business, they may never find it. Fun as it is to tweak Rick for ignoring a jury summons (which isn't what his quote said; you've just been misreading it out of joy at having another club to rhetorically hit him with), it does tend to bury the useful data in the thread for anyone who really needs it.

I'm not saying you should stop, if you're enjoying it. I'm just saying that some sort of sifting process to make the useful, informational bits available to those who need them, in some clear and compact setting, might be a good thing too.

kdb

These are good points, Kurt!

I've begun to put the basics up on the Unscrewed site in the "Olney Files" section. I've broken the info into specific sections, and as I can get to it, I'll copy and edit into the "stories" the information from this thread. If people doing their own review spot specific bits of information from here that they think will be useful to the compilation, please PM me on this board - with the specific post number, please!

I don't know how long it will take to compile things, but we'll try and get it organized over there in a coherent fashion.

[Blake Petit]

"The Olney Files." Sounds like something we should have Mulder and Scully digging into...

[Sarah Beach]

"The Olney Files." Sounds like something we should have Mulder and Scully digging into...

Well, the whole thing is kind of........



(wait for it)





........ SPOOKY!



(As in "Tales of the...") ;)

[Matt Doc Martin]

"The Olney Files." Sounds like something we should have Mulder and Scully digging into...

Playing the part of Mulder, the oddly handsome, porn-addicted investigator will be...Matt Doc Martin

Who wants to be Scully, the perky, delectable sidekick?

EDIT: I spoke with a nice lady at St Jude's who is looking into 2003 for any proof of Olney's claims. She will be talking with every office she can think of that might know anything about it, and will get back to me later today or tomorrow.

[Blake Petit]

This board needs the little rimshot smiley face dude.

[the4thpip]

Playing the part of Mulder, the oddly handsome, porn-addicted investigator will be...Matt Doc Martin

Who wants to be Scully, the perky, delectable sidekick?

Oooh me! Me! Pick me! :p

[Typo Lad]

Isn't the current joking just adding more dross for people to dig through?

Just sayin'.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Isn't the current joking just adding more dross for people to dig through?

Just sayin'.

I added relevancy to my post.

And 4thpip, how do YOU look in bra and panties?

[KevinTBrown]

This board needs the little rimshot smiley face dude.

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://sacrificialscreams.sinisterbeauty.com/images/emotions/Rim_Shot_emoticon.gif

[EdContradictory]

Isn't the current joking just adding more dross for people to dig through?

Just sayin'.
I think the joking keeps people coming back and helps keep it going.

There are two sites a page or so back that are supplying recaps.

I think if we create a new thread and sticky them, it should all be covered.

[MacQuarrie]

That's a lot of assumptions there...first off money...as in does he have any? The other thing is that Rick seems to be moving quickly to bury himself...he's already dug a large enough hole I think.
At the very beginning of all this, I told him to put down the shovel. I explained the Rule of Holes.

So, do I get to shout a big honkin' "Told ya so!" at this point?

[Typo Lad]

I think the joking keeps people coming back and helps keep it going.

There are two sites a page or so back that are supplying recaps.

I think if we create a new thread and sticky them, it should all be covered.
It shoudn't need jokes. This thread should serve as a warning to those who could be impacted, not our own cheap entertainment.

[MacQuarrie]

WTF is up with the reservations stuff? Does he assume everyone who doesn't share is views on Native Americans must be Native Americans?

He lives near one. The elementary school shown in his Classmates listing is today used by the local reservation.

[Matt Doc Martin]

It shoudn't need jokes. This thread should serve as a warning to those who could be impacted, not our own cheap entertainment.

Be proactive. You go through and get all relevant posts together. And let Gail know her jokes were out of line as well.

[EdContradictory]

It shoudn't need jokes. This thread should serve as a warning to those who could be impacted, not our own cheap entertainment.
It can do both. One does not cheapen the other.

And the jokes are a good release and bonding moment for those affected and hurt.

If everyone was just posting angry and not joking, I suspect this thread would have probably burnt out a long time ago and not done a lot of the good that it has.

Besides, this is YABS, I think the joking is assumed.

[Typo Lad]

Be proactive. You go through and get all relevant posts together. And let Gail know her jokes were out of line as well.
Gail doesn't quite care what I think, so I really don't bother. I did call her on it earlier and she noted it. I'm not going to nag her.

I'm a tad swamped at work today, but maybe I will do that tomorrow. Thank you for the suggestion.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Someone bought a shirt!!!


But I left the cost at cost, so there is no profit to spare.

But I will put $5 towards the fund anyhow.

(How/where do I donate?)

[Matt Algren]

Be proactive. You go through and get all relevant posts together. And let Gail know her jokes were out of line as well.
Well, frankly, (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4254964&postcount=8409) some of (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4237315&postcount=7057) them were (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4237313&postcount=7056).

Look, I know I'm just "Who is this guy" Guy, but is this thread for exposing and logging the bringing-to-justice of Rick Olney, or is it a thread where people can just pile on him? The first is (relatively) noble and reasonable. The second is bullying and shouldn't be on CBR. Regardless of whose board it's on.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Well, frankly, (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4254964&postcount=8409) some of (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4237315&postcount=7057) them were (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4237313&postcount=7056).

Look, I know I'm just "Who is this guy" Guy, but is this thread for exposing and logging the bringing-to-justice of Rick Olney, or is it a thread where people can just pile on him? The first is (relatively) noble and reasonable. The second is bullying and shouldn't be on CBR. Regardless of whose board it's on.

I think it is #1, but with fun added.

There are 8300+ posts here. People joke in-between meaningful content. Ed's idea is a great one. Lock a thread and add just pertinent stuff. I will add a link in my signature linking to it, and others should hopefully do the same. Meanwhile, this thread can continue as it has.


hell, the very first page and 2nd post had "dross".

[Danny Donovan]

You're very right Matt, I do believe that some of the things that have been said are somewhat unfair, although I have written a lot of it off as people who are just upset not with the fact that they have been wronged, but because the person that wronged them hasn't been forthright in admitting the failure, and instead hopes that threats and argument can cause the matter to go away.

I have to admit, its one of those things that people get caught up and lose sight of the cause, hopefully it doesn't run too far off center and people lose sight of what's really important...

I'm honestly surprised that it's gone on this long without any "pot stirring" from Rick, I'm happy he's quieted down and hopefully sooner or later he'll learn how to put all this behind him, as will everyone effected by it.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

It doesn't shock me Tom's search of Rick's business turned up that Rick had pretty much tried to end it on the 11th of Jan. Because if anyone looks back he snapped at Tom for during a search into his background around that time period. When Tom informed him he had every right to do it , he came back all nice.

Thats when he realized that Tom was gonna look into Tightlip. Its a shock someone would do all this and proclaim how rightous they were.

Ronee I feel for you and JP. He should just stop sending you e-mails threatening you if all he's gonna say is " You'll get it....you'll get it soon enough ! "

[Matt Doc Martin]

It doesn't shock me Tom's search of Rick's business turned up that Rick had pretty much tried to end it on the 11th of Jan. Because if anyone looks back he snapped at Tom for during a search into his background around that time period. When Tom informed him he had every right to do it , he came back all nice.

Thats when he realized that Tom was gonna look into Tightlip. Its a shock someone would do all this and proclaim how rightous they were.

Ronee I feel for you and JP. He should just stop sending you e-mails threatening you if all he's gonna say is " You'll get it....you'll get it soon enough ! "

He also received a summons at that time.

Coincidence? I think not!

[MacQuarrie]

Well, frankly, (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4254964&postcount=8409) some of (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4237315&postcount=7057) them were (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4237313&postcount=7056).

Look, I know I'm just "Who is this guy" Guy, but is this thread for exposing and logging the bringing-to-justice of Rick Olney, or is it a thread where people can just pile on him? The first is (relatively) noble and reasonable. The second is bullying and shouldn't be on CBR. Regardless of whose board it's on.
Aww, I was hoping you quoted the one of mine where I told Dick I was trying to cause him a heart attack and kill him. Or the one where I offered to send him some high-sodium, high-cholesterol snacks. Or one of the ones where I offered to punch him in the mouth.

Oh well.

Sure, they were unnecessary, mean-spirited, vulgar, and certainly in violation of the terms of agreement here at CBR, but I don't regret a one of 'em. If one of the admins would like to punish me for them, I will accept it. That's what happens when you accept responsibility for your actions.

[Sarah Beach]

You're very right Matt, I do believe that some of the things that have been said are somewhat unfair, although I have written a lot of it off as people who are just upset not with the fact that they have been wronged, but because the person that wronged them hasn't been forthright in admitting the failure, and instead hopes that threats and argument can cause the matter to go away.

I have to admit, its one of those things that people get caught up and lose sight of the cause, hopefully it doesn't run too far off center and people lose sight of what's really important...

I'm honestly surprised that it's gone on this long without any "pot stirring" from Rick, I'm happy he's quieted down and hopefully sooner or later he'll learn how to put all this behind him, as will everyone effected by it.

I think you're dreaming, Danny. And I say that in the mildest of tones, no wish to insult. As far as we can tell from the record on the internet, he doesn't "learn how to put all this behind him" at all. I think that demonstrated fact contributes to the "piling on" that has occured. He shows absolutely no remorse.

Anyway, gang, I'm slowly compling the basic chronology of recent events on the Unscrewed site. The additional side information that has turned up here will also be copied over there, gathered together, so that it will be much easier to find. I'm also planning to add links from the "Olney Files" back to OzBat's recap of events, and this thread.

[EdContradictory]

hell, the very first page and 2nd post had "dross".
And the title of the thread is a "joke".

[Papergirl]

It shoudn't need jokes. This thread should serve as a warning to those who could be impacted, not our own cheap entertainment.
Morts, I love you dearly. I count you as one of my closest friends ever. You know that, right?

So, as your friend, I am going to point something out to you: Every time you post something like this, you add to the "dross" in this thread. Want it to end? Lead by example. ;)

~Bev
Who is done with this thread now, unless she actually has something worth contributing to it.

[Typo Lad]

Jim,

You I know well enough to tell when I think you're going to far. I have and I did so offline.

Ed

The title is actually deadly serious, when you think about it.


EDIT: Bev is right, and I am unworthy of her love. I will follow her example and not post unless I have something substantive to add.

[JamesRitcheyIII]

Well, frankly, (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4254964&postcount=8409) some of (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4237315&postcount=7057) them were (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4237313&postcount=7056).

Look, I know I'm just "Who is this guy" Guy, but is this thread for exposing and logging the bringing-to-justice of Rick Olney, or is it a thread where people can just pile on him? The first is (relatively) noble and reasonable. The second is bullying and shouldn't be on CBR. Regardless of whose board it's on.

Matt, you should actually go back and skim some of the postings, here. Let him 'speak' for himself. He's a paranoid and sociopathic, Indy-level Carpetbagger, who has likely done more damage than any one man over the last two years to the goal of many here--having a thriving, healthy, competitive and creatively rich and diverse Independent market. He gathers the most creative people around him, makes big promises, then seemingly methodically attempts to destroy any faith or hope they have in ever being paid for doing anything original, on a level unheard of--this is coming from someone who has done commercial illustration professionally for close to 25 years--this is the most abusive, soulless scumbag I've experienced--out of dozens. He is an Antibody to creativity, conscious of it or not. If you think this is a witch-hunt, you have no familiarity with the subject. The man belongs in a mental hospital, for life.

[Matt Doc Martin]

~Bev
Who is done with this thread now, unless she actually has something worth contributing to it.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/wdd/iketurner.jpg

I'm sorry, baby...please come back. It's just...sometimes, I get so scared....


Get your ass back here!

Don't make me come get you, woman!

I'm sorry, baby....

[bert]

Well, the whole thing is kind of........



(wait for it)





........ SPOOKY!



(As in "Tales of the...") ;)

aarrrrrrgggghhh!!!!

you lost it right at the end!

if you have to explain it. . . . . . . .


hehehe

:p

[Matt Algren]

Aww, I was hoping you quoted the one of mine where I told Dick I was trying to cause him a heart attack and kill him. Or the one where I offered to send him some high-sodium, high-cholesterol snacks. Or one of the ones where I offered to punch him in the mouth.

Oh well.

Sure, they were unnecessary, mean-spirited, vulgar, and certainly in violation of the terms of agreement here at CBR, but I don't regret a one of 'em. If one of the admins would like to punish me for them, I will accept it. That's what happens when you accept responsibility for your actions.Nah, Doc's challenge was to find Gail's.

Your bon mots were (if I may be so bold, and with respect) beneath you. Everybody gets caught up in the moment once in a while. The problem is when they begin to revel in it.

JamesRitcheyIII: I've read every page of this thread, God help me. My first post is somewhere in the first five pages. I even defended it when someone came in and said there shouldn't be posts because it's Christmas.

Rick is one of the bad ones, no question. But his actions don't excuse others from responsibility of their actions. It goes back to that 'Clean Hands' doctrine that some of us were talking to Rick about a couple thousand posts back.

Does calling Rick a bunch of names, breaking all kinds of CBR rules (well, I guess it's just the one), do anything to help the process? Really? And what happens the next time a non-mod starts a hate thread, regardless of the just-ness of the hate? Should TPTB excuse it because of Gail's example of acceptable behavior? This isn't the first of these we've seen, you know.


Anyway, enough dross. (Who knew Typo could spell 'dross'?!?)

[Papergirl]

Get your ass back here!

Make me. :p

~Bev

[bert]

It shoudn't need jokes. This thread should serve as a warning to those who could be impacted, not our own cheap entertainment.

ah. . so maybe this is why you haven't been responding to me.


C'mon Morts, without the "fun" and "Joking" this would be like a History Textbook.

I think of the jokes and 'drift' as little doodles in the corners of the pages.

you can get more great knowlege out of a textbook that has words AND pictures, than one w/ just blocks of text.

So, while I get Kurt's point, I think that what Ed said is true. People are coming back to this thread over and over because it is a fun thread. If it were just a bitch-fest (and how to take action against peanut, I'd bet there would be a lot less traffic here.

as pointed out, there are a couple of other sites (such as Unscrewed) and summaries up.

I get what y'all are saying, but I respectfully disagree.

[Dhaunea]

RE: The guestbook comment someone mentioned earlier?


http://www.powhatan.org/guestbook/guest.html

My interest is in being able to link my organization, Organized Readers of Comics Associated, with groups of native American tribes. We are ORCA, and we want to provide *free* comicbooks for reading purposes to children of direct Native American decent. The comicbook has long been undervalued as a reading support tool for children. Repetitive reading is a superb way for children to strengthen their ability. Please contact me at: ORCA_fresh@hotmail.com if you, the reader of this message, are interested. I can also be reached online by you going to: http://www.comicon.com and using that posting board under the AND STILL, I WAIT topic thread. You'll need to briefly register to access comicon but I promise that it will be worth it should you decide to accept my offer for *free* comics. Also - Please feel free to forward my offer & contact info to any other Native American elders or persons in Teaching positions within any tribe located anywhere in the United States of America. Thank You.
Rick Olney <ORCA_fresh@hotmail.com>
Utica, NY USA - Saturday, January 29, 2000 at 17:17:12 (EST) from 209.137.75.101

[TCJohnson]

Morts, I love you dearly. I count you as one of my closest friends ever. You know that, right?

So, as your friend, I am going to point something out to you: Every time you post something like this, you add to the "dross" in this thread. Want it to end? Lead by example. ;)

~Bev
Who is done with this thread now, unless she actually has something worth contributing to it.

Well, crap, in that case I would never ever post in any thread.


Oh....I see....

[Matt Doc Martin]

Good work, Dhaunea

[Matt Doc Martin]

Stupid double post.

[Dhaunea]

Stupid, much delayed double-post. I'm having connection problems today and it seems to be messing with my posting ability.

[Dhaunea]

Good work, Dhaunea

To be completely honest, it's one of the things I dug up when searching for any references anywhere to the Salvation Army thing. I just saved the link and copied the text because it's buried about 3/4s of the way down a very long page.

It was just a matter of opening the document cut and pasting.

[Danny Donovan]

Yes Sarah you may call me a dreamer! (but I'm not the only one...) Okay, enough Beatles references. :-p

I know even though I much prefer my world of fantasy, I'm not blind to the realities that we'll ever get a mutual happy ending.

Also I agree with both points, Matt and his dissenters have made. Yes, the name calling and other "hate" messages could be considered uncalled for, it's not as if people are ganging up on an innocent. There have been just as many firery remarks from his side of things as well.

And many people have first hand been subjected to his war of words, and I think some, in the cases of Gail, and Jim Taylor, and Jim Ritchey, etc. have pent up aggression stemming from their past treatment that they're trying to release.

In the end everyone is in charge of themselves. Hopefully people who make those mistakes will come forward and say "I was out of line" at some point but there are others that keep sending hate out and being surprised when it gets returned to them two fold (actually a wiccan teaching if I'm correct, "what you send out you recieve times 2")

There are many people who have excuses. Except for Ritchey, that guy is just a complete ass. :-p And the devil incarnate. Go ahead look at his Social Security number it's 666-66-6666

:-p

[Calliope's Comics]

This may help find the St. Jude donation here is an amount to look for:

orcafresh:
General / The World We Live In / Re: Rating Systems for Comic Books on: Wed, February 25, 2004, 06:22:16

I'm sorry that I didn't meet and greet you last year at the Pittsburgh Comicon, JVC. I saw you at the Crusade booth...but I was too busy trying to catch up with Billy.
His support of our 2003 Mighty Mini-Con auction then helped us raise $500 dollars for the kids at St Jude Children's Hospital. Thanks again, Billy! You're the best!

[Matt Doc Martin]

This may help find the St. Jude donation here is an amount to look for:

orcafresh:
General / The World We Live In / Re: Rating Systems for Comic Books on: Wed, February 25, 2004, 06:22:16

I'm sorry that I didn't meet and greet you last year at the Pittsburgh Comicon, JVC. I saw you at the Crusade booth...but I was too busy trying to catch up with Billy.
His support of our 2003 Mighty Mini-Con auction then helped us raise $500 dollars for the kids at St Jude Children's Hospital. Thanks again, Billy! You're the best!


That is a HUGE help.

[JamesRitcheyIII]

Nah, Doc's challenge was to find Gail's.

Your bon mots were (if I may be so bold, and with respect) beneath you. Everybody gets caught up in the moment once in a while. The problem is when they begin to revel in it.

JamesRitcheyIII: I've read every page of this thread, God help me. My first post is somewhere in the first five pages. I even defended it when someone came in and said there shouldn't be posts because it's Christmas.

Rick is one of the bad ones, no question. But his actions don't excuse others from responsibility of their actions. It goes back to that 'Clean Hands' doctrine that some of us were talking to Rick about a couple thousand posts back.

Does calling Rick a bunch of names, breaking all kinds of CBR rules (well, I guess it's just the one), do anything to help the process? Really? And what happens the next time a non-mod starts a hate thread, regardless of the just-ness of the hate? Should TPTB excuse it because of Gail's example of acceptable behavior? This isn't the first of these we've seen, you know.


Anyway, enough dross. (Who knew Typo could spell 'dross'?!?)

No, two wrongs proverbially DON'T make a right--but this IS cathartic, to the extreme. The man threatened to tie me up in court for years if I ever publicly told anyone THIS: The details of a factual email exchange in which I went ballistic on his Nazi arse, after the SOB publicly undermined (on various forums for over a month before I was warned by others) my tenuous relationship (after SEVERE time-related inker issues) with Bill Black and AC Comics, on my revamp of the golden age character, Green Lama--because Rick wanted to publish it. I was already on to Olney by September of 2005, never signed an NDA (told him I'd sign his if he signed mine--which I don't really have), and I DID NOT WANT THAT, under any circumstances. AC was functionally my last chance, short of self-publishing, which I'm pursuing--having founded a 'co-op', of sorts. If I'd known it was all bluster, earlier, I might have been the 'Voice Crying in the Wilderness'--but I did privately warn anyone I liked who was considering doing work for him about what a sorry individual he is. Is it wrong to pick on bullies, to fight them with their own weapons? These are the trenches for anything remotely resembling original comics work, and this guy is as close to a Hitler--or WORSE--a Jim Shooter--as we're likely to have. He's mediocre, at best as a creator, and resents and attempts to sabotage his betters.

There are many people who have excuses. Except for Ritchey, that guy is just a complete ass. :-p And the devil incarnate. Go ahead look at his Social Security number it's 666-66-6666

D.Dilton Donlevy, I have a special place in the afterlife waiting for you. :P

[Calliope's Comics]

and this:

orcafresh: on: Mon, December 1, 2003, 16:42:34
I thought I'd (again) see if I could give you some opportunity to re-think coming to upstate New York this next June 5th and 6th for the 2004 Mighty Mini-Con.

Here's my offer and skinny:

Okay, I've listed below what is provided to 2004 guests of the Mighty Mini-Con.

* Air Fare to and from your point of departure and arrival point.

* Hotel for Friday, Saturday, Sunday, with check out on Monday morning.

* A Green Room during the days events of Saturday and Sunday. You will be provided
lunch and beverages during both days.

* Upon check-in, you'll be greeted with an envelope containing $100 dollars for
incidentals.

* There is a Gala Comics & Collectables auction Saturday Night at 7-9pm to benefit
the St. Jude Children's Center. If you, Dark Horse, or any friends of yours (even non-attendees)
could donate an item or two ... THAT would be great! We really want to raise a couple thousand dollars for the charity.

* After the auction, there will be a gathering ... (read "party") in the
bar. I'm providing the first hour open, and I expect there to be munchies or something
also provided. Also Karoke!! So warm up your croonin' voice.

* There is a breakfast Sunday morning. You are invited. It will be open to all guests, SPA
members, my special guests, and anyone working the convention.

* I may have a private dinner on Sunday evening after the convention officially concludes. All the other aspects above are set in motion and confirmed events. The
dinner is not as yet. And, it might end up being by invitation for anyone who helped us raise a ton of cash for St Jude's.

If anything other than above is added...I'll certainly let you know. So what do you think? If you decide yes, then I'll be back in touch with you in January to
begin the arranging of the details. I offered you a bed & breakfast last year and their was no room in your schedule. I'll happily accomodate you...just talk to me, "Oh great white hunter!" ;D

The Mighty Mini-Con ain't no small show. I've booked 4 Star Wars film guests, and none of them have seen upstate New York. Two are new to the convention circuit and one is a primary actor from the last Star Wars episode.

I'm only looking to guest 6 people on your guest tier.

[EdContradictory]

This may help find the St. Jude donation here is an amount to look for:

orcafresh:
General / The World We Live In / Re: Rating Systems for Comic Books on: Wed, February 25, 2004, 06:22:16

I'm sorry that I didn't meet and greet you last year at the Pittsburgh Comicon, JVC. I saw you at the Crusade booth...but I was too busy trying to catch up with Billy.
His support of our 2003 Mighty Mini-Con auction then helped us raise $500 dollars for the kids at St Jude Children's Hospital. Thanks again, Billy! You're the best!
I wonder if there are laws in New York pertaining to charity auctions.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I wonder if there are laws in New York pertaining to charity auctions.


Well, in my complaint to the AG in NY I mentioned his "auctions" and the 501c issue, and supplied copies of his posts claiming the tax deductible status.

So we will know soon, I think.

[wishlish]

A quick thought about dross:

Yes, it affects the signal-to-noise ratio. But by making the thread open and fun, we've been able to learn much more about Olney than we would have otherwise. I do think Kurt's suggestion of having a one-page summary for new participants is vital, though.

As for the clean hands doctrine...some of the nastiness just comes from the pain of dealing with Olney. He's infuriating, annoying, and downright demonic at times. I can't blame anyone who's come close to crossing a line. In a perfect world, it should be contained, but this isn't a perfect world. Olney provokes anger and frustration, especially if you're one of his victims. Now that he's not posting anymore, I agree that we should keep it civil. But some of those posts came during Olney's peak as a poster, and he's more annoying than a bed full of bedbugs and Republicans.

(Republicans- substitute liberals in that last sentence if it makes you happy.)

[khuxford]

From the Beached Whale:


Kevin:
The real entertainment hasn't even started yet. Oh, the drama!

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Kevin H.
Date: Jan 12, 2007 7:18 PM


Kevin H. has posted a new Journal comment on MySpace!

According to your privacy settings, all comments must be approved by you before they appear on your profile.

Original Post:
"Re: The remarks of one Ms. "Gail Simone"

A while back, Mr. MacQ said that I was digging a hole with my shovel. That hole is now occupied by you and you can't see the top or were smart enough to have brought a ladder with you.

Where and what it will ultimately cost you remains to be seen. Certainly, I'm not trading juvenile 'barbs' with you. You've acted as expected. You've created a vehicle that you no longer control. Now enjoy the ride."

Kevin H.'s Comment:

"Didn't ask if you asked anyone. Pointed out that no one has defended you anywhere in any way, shape, or form, Dick. "Contract to what you say"? You have a lot of problems with contracts, so I can understand the slip...but you meant to be contrary. And I never said your blog wasn't open to comments...I'm saying a defender could post their thoughts somewhere that wouldn't be open to your detractors filling up the comments section with argument if they so chose. "


Please click the link below to approve or deny this comment.

This doesn't show the full exchange. I had commented that no one is defending him anywhere, to which be basically responded that he'd never ask anyone to wade into this thread in his defense...leading to my comment above.

[Matt Doc Martin]

From the Beached Whale:



This doesn't show the full exchange. I had commented that no one is defending him anywhere, to which be basically responded that he'd never ask anyone to wade into this thread in his defense...leading to my comment above.

Is this on his TightLip page?

[Sarah Beach]

From the Beached Whale:


Um, this may just be me being a touch sensitive, but.... let's find another way of putting that please? Does it have to sit on me? ;)

Like "Grounded Whale", or "Sandbarred Whale", or .... well, anything but Beached? Please?

:)

[khuxford]

Is this on his TightLip page?

Sorry...shoulda specified...this was his response to my attempt to put a second comment on his Monkey Dance 3 blog (or whatever the hell it was named, though I think he pulled 'em all down now, right?).

[MacQuarrie]

Currently posted on the Mighty Mini-Con's Myspace page (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=145146574&blogID=213476213&MyToken=e9c29a60-c294-4f28-8bcf-9ac0accbd287) (all the way at the bottom of the photo parade page)...


Marcia and Steven Thompson and Kristy Gleason were not writing or drawing, but instead were dressed up as superheroes and supervillains (Supergirl, Bluntman and Typhoid Mary) at the Arcane Sanctuary booth. For a donation, they would pose for pictures with fans. They were raising money for charity (St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital, which also benefited from the Mighty Mini-Con auction).
So he's still claiming to have donated to St. Jude in 2003.

[khuxford]

Um, this may just be me being a touch sensitive, but.... let's find another way of putting that please? Does it have to sit on me? ;)

Like "Grounded Whale", or "Sandbarred Whale", or .... well, anything but Beached? Please?

:)

LOL...ok...Grounded will be the term I use from now on...but if a poster named Johnny Ground comes a' complaining, I'm not making another change...

[Matt Doc Martin]

Currently posted on the Mighty Mini-Con's Myspace page (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=145146574&blogID=213476213&MyToken=e9c29a60-c294-4f28-8bcf-9ac0accbd287) (all the way at the bottom of the photo parade page)...


So he's still claiming to have donated to St. Jude in 2003.

No worries. I am on it already. I will speak with the nice lady again tomorrow.

[Mikl C]

212 pages? W.T.F.

[Matt Doc Martin]

212 pages? W.T.F.

212 pages of what?

[Papergirl]

212 pages of posts in this thread :p

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

212 pages of posts in this thread :p

~Bev

Uh...I have 565 showing...

Edit: Ah. I just made friends with the "options" available.

NOW it is 212.

[Danny Donovan]

Uh...I have 565 showing...

Matt, if you go into your User CP, and change your thread count to 40 posts per page, you'd have 212 pages of posts showing.

40 posts per page is the CBR max. your default is --- *counts toes* I SUCK AT MATH!

:-p

*edit*

GAWD DAMNIT

The board slowness is always making me a day late and a dollar short on things....

[Blake Petit]

I'm assuming I'm set to the default, I've never changed it. For me, I'm on page 565.

[Papergirl]

Uh...I have 565 showing...

Edit: Ah. I just made friends with the "options" available.

NOW it is 212.
*gigglefits*

I'm NOT saying a word...


~Bev
Heading back to her little corner now.

[Matt Doc Martin]

*gigglefits*

I'm NOT saying a word...


~Bev
Heading back to her little corner now.

Uh...It came on to me first...

...it is lonely here in my apartment...


The screen glow was so inviting...

*runs away in shame*

[Papergirl]

Uh...It came on to me first...

...it is lonely here in my apartment...


The screen glow was so inviting...

*runs away in shame*

Mmmhmmm.... Likely story.

~Bev

[OzBat!]

Just a couple of thoughts about this thread, based on comments in the last few pages...

This thread is linked all over the net at the moment. Even if we create a "best of" page or whatever, they're still gonna come here first. We could probably include links to the cliff notes essentials in Gail's opening post, that might divert a lot of people to the important stuff.

I don't want to go through and cull all the silly stuff out.
1. It's a huuuuuge job, and
2. We justifiably took Olney to task for editing his posts. Are we then going to do the same with the entire thread?

I've probably got a couple of options that will still involve carpal tunnel syndrome and stressed eyeballs on my part, but I'm willing to give it a go:

I could copy the entire thread, and cull out everything except the pertinent points, a "greatest hits" thread so to speak. Or,

Create a new thread, with links to individual posts in this thread to create the "greatest hits" thread.

Or, if somebody is already doing this elsewhere, let me know!

[Gail Simone]

Gail doesn't quite care what I think

Boy, that's for damn sure.

Some people are venting, big deal. It hurts no one except those who deserve it.

Gail

[Typo Lad]

Right. One last response, to Gail.

I think people have a right to vent -if they were wronged.

The rest of us, myself included, should not be disrupting the flow of information.

That's my last word on the subject, I promise. I wish all involved the best of luck in nailing this man for what he did in a court of law.

[Gail Simone]

You're very right Matt, I do believe that some of the things that have been said are somewhat unfair, although I have written a lot of it off as people who are just upset not with the fact that they have been wronged, but because the person that wronged them hasn't been forthright in admitting the failure, and instead hopes that threats and argument can cause the matter to go away.

I have to admit, its one of those things that people get caught up and lose sight of the cause, hopefully it doesn't run too far off center and people lose sight of what's really important...

I'm honestly surprised that it's gone on this long without any "pot stirring" from Rick, I'm happy he's quieted down and hopefully sooner or later he'll learn how to put all this behind him, as will everyone effected by it.



Oh, for Christ's sake.

Are we fading posies, here?

This guy called Joanne, one of the nicest and most talented creators anywhere, a douche bag and a sick bitch. He made gay jokes about Mark Waid. He made jokes about people's appearance, he made anti-woman comments, and lest we not forget, he laughed about cheating people over Christmas AND made legal and physical threats to people who merely voiced a contrary opinion sternly. I have frankly lost count of the truly offensive things he's said and done, and my sympathy goes not to the victimizer, but to the people's he's abused, threatened, lied to, insulted, and cheated.

Feel free to weep for this guy's hurt feelings elsewhere. "Unfair," my ass.


Unfair. Good lord.

Gail

[Danny Donovan]

Oh, for Christ's sake.

Are we fading posies, here?

This guy called Joanne, one of the nicest and most talented creators anywhere, a douche bag and a sick bitch. He made gay jokes about Mark Waid. He made jokes about people's appearance, he made anti-woman comments, and lest we not forget, he laughed about cheating people over Christmas AND made legal and physical threats to people who merely voiced a contrary opinion sternly. I have frankly lost count of the truly offensive things he's said and done, and my sympathy goes not to the victimizer, but to the people's he's abused, threatened, lied to, insulted, and cheated.

Feel free to weep for this guy's hurt feelings elsewhere. "Unfair," my ass.


Unfair. Good lord.

Gail


I'm not weeping for his "hurt feelings" I was just saying I could understand what Matt was saying coming in from the outside.

I've been threatened, lied, cheated, etc. and people close to me have been the same...

[Corrina]

I'm as fair as the next person but when the other side implies sexual favors for job, references a sexual position doing so, (and those are only two examples...)

:shrug:

People tend to take personal insults like that, um, personally.

[TomStillwell]

Oh, for Christ's sake.

Are we fading posies, here?

This guy called Joanne, one of the nicest and most talented creators anywhere, a douche bag and a sick bitch. He made gay jokes about Mark Waid. He made jokes about people's appearance, he made anti-woman comments, and lest we not forget, he laughed about cheating people over Christmas AND made legal and physical threats to people who merely voiced a contrary opinion sternly. I have frankly lost count of the truly offensive things he's said and done, and my sympathy goes not to the victimizer, but to the people's he's abused, threatened, lied to, insulted, and cheated.

Feel free to weep for this guy's hurt feelings elsewhere. "Unfair," my ass.


Unfair. Good lord.

Gail

Olney's a big boy. He certainly had no trouble dishing it out. He's sought contempt and found it.

Keep in mind this is the same person who for years, either by deception or threats, cheated pretty much everyone he crossed. A person quick to turn on his friends if they questioned his amoral ways. A person ready to fling vile insults when asked for the most base truth.

Olney feels no remorse for his actions, only fear now that he's caught, exposed to truth he can't hide anymore.

[Sarah Beach]

It is very easy, if one is or has become emotionally disengaged from a situation, to step back and say "You guys are making too much noise out of this." The thing is that saying that can sometimes be a little bit like saying to someone whose spouse died three months earlier, "Cheer up. Your whole life is ahead of you."

I would agree that under normal circumstances, the amount of mockery of one person which has occured in this thread would be ... a questionable distinction at best. But under normal circumstances, targets of mockery can have redeeming qualities to them. The best we can say about the subject here is that he seems to care about his kids -- well, his daughter, at least.

And the subject of the thread shows none of the usual signs of unjust injury. Instead, he has managed to continue unsocial behavior.

For his victims -- remember most of them have kept silent for some time (from various reasons) and not spoken of his treatment of them. This can be psychologically toxic. This thread has given them the opportunity to vent, and it is a necessary process if they're going to "leave him behind." If it seems overblown, it's probably because a lot of the reactions have been suppressed for a long time. And the reactions of those who haven't been directly involved (until insulted here)? Empathy, sympathy, common humanity, righteous indignation in the face of dispicable behavior.

I don't think anyone is going to be carrying this behavior elsewhere with them, nor are they going to inflict it on anyone else. The issues here have a very clear focus, a justified focus.

Short version: yes, this thread is unusual. It will probably always be so. I don't think this is going to carry on elsewhere in the sense of the spewing. But the venting is good, and it is finally freeing certain people to move forward in very positive ways, because of the support found here.

(Okay, I'll shut up now.

[kingdom2000]

Right. One last response, to Gail.

I think people have a right to vent -if they were wronged.

The rest of us, myself included, should not be disrupting the flow of information.

That's my last word on the subject, I promise. I wish all involved the best of luck in nailing this man for what he did in a court of law.

Its a public online web board. If you don't want to risk disruption, make it a closed system. Otherwise, live with it.

[Danny Donovan]

It is very easy, if one is or has become emotionally disengaged from a situation, to step back and say "You guys are making too much noise out of this." The thing is that saying that can sometimes be a little bit like saying to someone whose spouse died three months earlier, "Cheer up. Your whole life is ahead of you."

I would agree that under normal circumstances, the amount of mockery of one person which has occured in this thread would be ... a questionable distinction at best. But under normal circumstances, targets of mockery can have redeeming qualities to them. The best we can say about the subject here is that he seems to care about his kids -- well, his daughter, at least.

And the subject of the thread shows none of the usual signs of unjust injury. Instead, he has managed to continue unsocial behavior.

For his victims -- remember most of them have kept silent for some time (from various reasons) and not spoken of his treatment of them. This can be psychologically toxic. This thread has given them the opportunity to vent, and it is a necessary process if they're going to "leave him behind." If it seems overblown, it's probably because a lot of the reactions have been suppressed for a long time. And the reactions of those who haven't been directly involved (until insulted here)? Empathy, sympathy, common humanity, righteous indignation in the face of dispicable behavior.

I don't think anyone is going to be carrying this behavior elsewhere with them, nor are they going to inflict it on anyone else. The issues here have a very clear focus, a justified focus.

Short version: yes, this thread is unusual. It will probably always be so. I don't think this is going to carry on elsewhere in the sense of the spewing. But the venting is good, and it is finally freeing certain people to move forward in very positive ways, because of the support found here.

(Okay, I'll shut up now.

That was all I was trying (and failing) to say. that while the thread might have generated to his level of abuse instead of rising above it, some people need it to let go.

my apologies if anyone thought I was trying to shield him from ire. I admit to being wishy washy. :-p

[Matt Doc Martin]

That was all I was trying (and failing) to say. that while the thread might have generated to his level of abuse instead of rising above it, some people need it to let go.

my apologies if anyone thought I was trying to shield him from ire. I admit to being wishy washy. :-p

It's ok. Just grow a pair.

They will probably feel somewhere between raisins and golf balls.

If you hit coconuts, see a doctor.

Seriously.

[Danny Donovan]

It's ok. Just grow a pair.

They will probably feel somewhere between raisins and golf balls.

If you hit coconuts, see a doctor.

Seriously.

I will pray to Steven Colbert to grant me some balls!

:D

[Jack Zodiac]

Thread drift!

How long do you think it'll take for this thread to reach over nine thousand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI&mode=related&search=) posts?

You fuckin' nerd! :D

Olney's latest email to me today... in regards to my request for his attorney's contact information.

"Oh, don't worry... its coming."

My response...

"With the same rapidity and assuredness as your contracts, or payment?

Seeing how you can't even supply a name, or contact information. I find your
claim's to be as empty as your threats, and your promises."

And his head and his heart. Don't forget about them.

"The Olney Files." Sounds like something we should have Mulder and Scully digging into...

Well, the whole thing is kind of........



(wait for it)





........ SPOOKY!



(As in "Tales of the...") ;)

It's also been hysterically lame, like the last two seasons of "The X-Files."

Playing the part of Mulder, the oddly handsome, porn-addicted investigator will be...Matt Doc Martin

Who wants to be Scully, the perky, delectable sidekick?

Sidekick? Brother, she was her own show. And I'd nominate Papergirl, the spunky, eye-clawing redhead.

I'm as fair as the next person but when the other side implies sexual favors for job, references a sexual position doing so, (and those are only two examples...)

:shrug:

People tend to take personal insults like that, um, personally.

And most of those weren't even goaded. He just... acted like a cock on his own. Surprise!

As far as the off-color commentary is concerned... it's the Internet. You can't be one hundred percent serious here. And in the downtime between updates on Dickface's defense and the progress of those suing him, it keeps everyone entertained.

Especially when you get guys like Mark Waid and Kurt Busiek in here talking about Duckburg and Stompa.

[MacQuarrie]

Do not feel pity or sympathy for Olney. He's like a nigerian scammer; he's so morally repugnant that nothing you say about him can possibly be bad enough to cover it. Like I said earlier, it's impossible to stoop to his level. The best you can do is kneel down in the gutter and shout down the sewer at him.

[Gail Simone]

Olney's a big boy. He certainly had no trouble dishing it out. He's sought contempt and found it.

Keep in mind this is the same person who for years, either by deception or threats, cheated pretty much everyone he crossed. A person quick to turn on his friends if they questioned his amoral ways. A person ready to fling vile insults when asked for the most base truth.

Olney feels no remorse for his actions, only fear now that he's caught, exposed to truth he can't hide anymore.

And, as of YESTERDAY, he's still threatening people he's cheated.

He's played the, "I'm not corrupt, I'm just a well-meaning goofball" card for many, many years.

It's ONLY because we stood up and turned up the heat that he can't keep pulling this crap on creators, retailers, exhibitors and the like.

Gail

[DrewEdwards]

Other than this thread, what more can be done to get the word out. As famous as this has become, there's always going to be newcomers who don't know?

[Matt Doc Martin]

And, as of YESTERDAY, he's still threatening people he's cheated.

He's played the, "I'm not corrupt, I'm just a well-meaning goofball" card for many, many years.

It's ONLY because we stood up and turned up the heat that he can't keep pulling this crap on creators, retailers, exhibitors and the like.

Gail

Wouldn't his threats be more effective if he used, I dunno, a lawyer or something?

I know you are still reading, peanut. Got a name for us yet?

[sk716]

I am working on uploading the screencaps of the erased posts here into the Unscrewed! Gallery (http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/album.php?aid=8&page=1). I'm adding Olney's text as well so they will be searchable.

Once all of the erased posts I have are up I'll start capping and copying the rest of his posts here into the gallery as well.

If anybody want's to help out with this massive project, it would be much appreciated. Especially since MDM's file is pretty massive.

[Gail Simone]

Nah, Doc's challenge was to find Gail's.

Your bon mots were (if I may be so bold, and with respect) beneath you. Everybody gets caught up in the moment once in a while. The problem is when they begin to revel in it.

JamesRitcheyIII: I've read every page of this thread, God help me. My first post is somewhere in the first five pages. I even defended it when someone came in and said there shouldn't be posts because it's Christmas.

Rick is one of the bad ones, no question. But his actions don't excuse others from responsibility of their actions. It goes back to that 'Clean Hands' doctrine that some of us were talking to Rick about a couple thousand posts back.

Does calling Rick a bunch of names, breaking all kinds of CBR rules (well, I guess it's just the one), do anything to help the process? Really? And what happens the next time a non-mod starts a hate thread, regardless of the just-ness of the hate? Should TPTB excuse it because of Gail's example of acceptable behavior? This isn't the first of these we've seen, you know.


Anyway, enough dross. (Who knew Typo could spell 'dross'?!?)


I don't care what the CBR rules are, never have, never will, and Jonah is fine with this thread, encouraged it, in fact, and I know because I asked him.

Honestly, I don't ban people, but I don't particularly care if they stay or not if they're so wildly unhappy. And this isn't the first of WHAT we've seen?

Rick had his chance many times to have his say when people were BEGGING me to ban him.

He eats this shit up, by the way, people saying, "Aww, poor Rick, being picked on by the mean huge line of people he's cheated." If he was still blogging, this would be up there, guaranteed.

Gail

[AIPman1]

Other than this thread, what more can be done to get the word out. As famous as this has become, there's always going to be newcomers who don't know?

See the SPA's Accountability Initiative: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/

[Papergirl]

I am working on uploading the screencaps of the erased posts here into the Unscrewed! Gallery (http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/album.php?aid=8&page=1). I'm adding Olney's text as well so they will be searchable.

Once all of the erased posts I have are up I'll start capping and copying the rest of his posts here into the gallery as well.

If anybody want's to help out with this massive project, it would be much appreciated. Especially since MDM's file is pretty massive.
PM me and tell me what you need me to do. I have the time.

~Bev

[Gail Simone]

Right. One last response, to Gail.

I think people have a right to vent -if they were wronged.

The rest of us, myself included, should not be disrupting the flow of information.

That's my last word on the subject, I promise. I wish all involved the best of luck in nailing this man for what he did in a court of law.

So noted.

I still think it's a busload of nonsense. Some hilarious stuff has been posted here, a lot of new friends made and a lot of old ones re-acquainted, some admirable silly stuff has well balanced out Rick's bigoted comments.

I can't work it up to cry about that, somehow.



Gail

[shanejayell]

The Whale has earned each and every shot taken at him, imho.

[Gail Simone]

Other than this thread, what more can be done to get the word out. As famous as this has become, there's always going to be newcomers who don't know?

We could...PUT AN AD ON MADONNA'S FRILLIES!

Gail

[Blake Petit]

That's one place it'd be guaranteed to get noticed. :D

[Gail Simone]

I am working on uploading the screencaps of the erased posts here into the Unscrewed! Gallery (http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/album.php?aid=8&page=1). I'm adding Olney's text as well so they will be searchable.

Once all of the erased posts I have are up I'll start capping and copying the rest of his posts here into the gallery as well.

If anybody want's to help out with this massive project, it would be much appreciated. Especially since MDM's file is pretty massive.


Yikes.

Sk, I think you could save the world given enough bandwidth.

Gail

[shanejayell]

Do she and Britney still wear 'em?
:)