Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[heystacy]

If the judge ordered him to get tested by a psychologist and they said he was insane would that let him off the hook or what? :confused:

I don't think he meets the definiton of insane. I don't know much about law. One would be insane by public standards to do what he's done, but not legal standars. The "man" is petty, vain, and a sadist. No so much insane as an idiot.

[heystacy]

And you must say "Oh SNAP!!!" or "DaMMnnn!" when accepting the papers.

Its best to have your posse with you for bragging rights after you serve that poser proper.

[neko onna]

You mean its nothing like this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3l_SgaPPGk



http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-11/1228756/servedcat.jpg

[colleen]

Yeah damn straight , jack ! You JUST BEEN SERVED !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3l_SgaPPGk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOOZUfd7xU



LOL!!!

Maybe there will be dancing with mythical attorneys on retainer, a team of police friends who will haul enemies off to jail without benefit of the review of a magistrate even when they are not in the same state as the nefarious Knights Who Say YABS, former bench sitting buddies who aren't actually attorneys but play them on the internet, and the 27 and 3/4 never-actually-went-to-Viet-Nam-potato-peeling-clerks Marine Brigade.

Make your own kind of music.

Sing your own special song.

[Matt Doc Martin]

LOL!!!

Maybe there will be dancing with mythical attorneys on retainer, a team of police friends who will haul enemies off to jail without benefit of the review of a magistrate even when they are not in the same state as the nefarious Knights Who Say YABS, former bench sitting buddies who aren't actually attorneys but play them on the internet, and the 27 and 3/4 never-actually-went-to-Viet-Nam-potato-peeling-clerks Marine Brigade.

Make your own kind of music.

Sing your own special song.


Hey.......that sounds oddly familiar...

[Matt Doc Martin]

New shirt!!!


http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin.100698723

Oh, and let's see him try to stop that one....

[JTPencils]

New shirt!!!


http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin.100698723

Oh, and let's see him try to stop that one....

On the back of the shirt, ya need "Everybody".

Or, since we've used wrestling analogy's before here... "Who's next?". Nah, then we'd be getting sued by Vince McMahon, who's got much deeper pockets then Rick does.

[Gail Simone]

That's another thing any creators from here can do to help out the SPA/IF/Palavers - stop in at the live chats we have. We used to have regular guest speakers for chats, ("BRO" = "Before Rick Olney", and things got all splintered. It was a grea way to announce a new project cause we'd have like 15-25 people at the chats, but then we also post the transcripts for everyone else to read...

For a while we had it so the speakers would sponsor a giveaway each week. Not sure if we're ready to bring that sort of thing back, but...Whoever made it to the chat would get a free item of the Sponsor's choice. That's what Darediva was mentioning many pages back, having never received the item RO said he'd send out. I don't know of anyone that did get one, myself included. But anyway, if anyone here wants to help us out by being NAMED GUESTS at the chats, let me know off-board, and I'll put you on schedule in our Kick Start newsletter (which appears on the Dimestore home page each week).



Heck, I'll do it.

Gail

[bert]

I think what bert is asking is this: If you have someone ELSE served with papers, are you notified when those papers are served to the other person.

~Bev

yep, that's what I was asking PeeG

but who-hoo! I got a response from Colleen (I'm gonna print that out and frame it next to the original art I bought from her a few years ago -- a GORGEOUS costume design she did for "Bloodstorm" that got rejected for odd reason).

[Matt Doc Martin]

As soon as the scan is available from my source, I will post it.

You see, Ricky lied to us. (SHOCKING!!) He has been served AT LEAST once. And more ARE coming.

If he did not have a lawyer before, I am sure he is looking for one now.

[neko onna]

sorry already posted..damn this catching up

[bert]

Whoever serves the summons and complaint on the party (sheriff or process server) generally makes note of who, when and where the service was made and returns proof of service to the courthouse. If it is service by sheriff, a copy may be mailed to the attorney filing suit (here in PA). When I was clerking in Chicago, we just went to the courthouse to check up on service. We generally didn't do this until after the date the defendant had to file his/her appearance. When we used a process server, he sent the proof of service to us and we turned it into the courthouse. But in either case, it wasn't an immediate thing.

The defendant also has a specific amount of time after service to file his appearance at the courthouse and then the whole thing begins. Should the defendant not file an appearance, a date is set for the plaintiff to prove their damages and a default judgment would be entered and then collection proceedings would begin.

And that's your civic lesson for today.

GO Bears!

and information is *always* appreciated!

thanks for the info. . I did not know the above.

this is a great thread -- inspite of the inspiration behind it.

I've learned so much here (including all that wonderful info about Copyright/Trademarks, and how to go about filing a lawsuit).

[AIPman1]

For those interested in the SPA: I replied to Danny's post....

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,137/topic,2323.msg16245/#msg16245

[AIPman1]

Heck, I'll do it.

Gail

Cool, so are you available Tuesday night, from 7:30 to 9:00 PM Eastern time? If so, I will announce this in the Kick Start that will be posted tomorrow!

[bert]

New shirt!!!


http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin.100698723

Oh, and let's see him try to stop that one....



heh. .

(although, I would probably do it w: WWRS? on the front, over the right chest, and your "spelling it out" phrase on the back.



oh. . and here's one I'd like to give you as a "gimme". . .since I don't have the technical know-how for setting up an account to sell.


"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday, for a Happy Meal today ! "


(and then, below that, in teeny type)

(the Tuesday after you sign my NDA)

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Now I want to see dancing sherriffs and machine gun kitties again. Damn this thread is funny.


JP

[DocAbsurd]

Quick question that is only marginally related here:

Does anyone know how to make a background clear in PS? I wanna whip up a T-shirt with the Sock Puppet.

[AIPman1]

Quick question that is only marginally related here:

Does anyone know how to make a background clear in PS? I wanna whip up a T-shirt with the Sock Puppet.

you use the extract function...I think it's under Filter, then extract....

[Matt Doc Martin]

heh. .

(although, I would probably do it w: WWRS? on the front, over the right chest, and your "spelling it out" phrase on the back.



oh. . and here's one I'd like to give you as a "gimme". . .since I don't have the technical know-how for setting up an account to sell.


"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday, for a Happy Meal today ! "


(and then, below that, in teeny type)

(the Tuesday after you sign my NDA)

Like this:

http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin.100709414

[neko onna]

select the area you don't want. start a new file..set it up to have a transparent background...cut out the part you want and then drag it over tothe new file...or you can select the area you want and then hit Edit:clear...but unless your background is transparent you willstill have a background color when you save it (unless you save it as a gif i believe..anyone?)

or this..lol
you use the extract function...I think it's under Filter, then extract....

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Like this:

http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin.100709414

Beautiful...simply beautiful.

JP

[Thomas]

I don't get it. That's Jabba devouring Ric Olie from Star Wars. A character who, in the absence of any evidence whatsoever, I assume has nothing to do with our Rick. What's the relation? Yes, I realise they have the same initials and Ric gave Anakin his first flying lesson just like Rick gave some kid a comic, but I'm still not seeing the relevance to the thread. :D
The names sound somewhat similiar and Rick once saw a Star Wars movie. The connection's pretty obvious, I think.

Also, he's eating him!

[Dedagda]

Hi all,

Just wanted to say how much I enjoy this thread. As a small-business man who relies on customers paying up on time I am very familiar with the frustration of getting screwed over. The loss of faith always hurts more than the loss of cash.

It's interesting to see how high up on the list this thread is getting when you do a Google of Rick Olney. Right now it is number eight; number one is my favourite :rolleyes: - http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/interviews2.asp?intID=290, with this quote from Rick "To all those that feel I've hurt them; Forgive me. To all those that know the warmth of my friendship; Remember me. To those that loved me, know that I love you still today. I was only here in the spotlight of life a brief time, but you've all made my life the richer for my exposure to you."

I guess some of you folks did make his life richer. I hope you get paid.

Long time reader, first time poster.

Welcome Uber Steve!

I don't know if your business is in comics, but the community is made up of so many small businesses in publishing and retailing. This thread is so fascinating to me because I can see how easy it would be to follow down the path.

Just because you build it doesn't mean they will come. Too many folks have been screwed over by Rick's aspirations to build a great show or a great publishing empire.

Most of the people here have dreams and aspirations of their own. I think we expect some level of work in earnest of building something for that dream. I see it in the small press and individuals bringing their comics into the store.

But the sheer number of folks he's dragged into his aspirations is staggering. Plus the way in which he's treated them is disgusting. These are good people with a passion and excitement for comics.

I read the thread and take so much of it into myself. I just wish I could make it all better.

[JTPencils]

"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday, for a Happy Meal today ! "



Not to get into the whole copyright/trademark thing... but isn't Happy Meal a trademark (or whatever) of McDonald's? Don't ya think they'd be upset?

[singoalla]

ah! it made over 500 pages! egads..

Originally Posted by Magneto_X
If the judge ordered him to get tested by a psychologist and they said he was insane would that let him off the hook or what?

He'd have to be unable to tell the difference between right or wrong and reality and fantasy for that to happen. And in that case, he'd probably get locked up in the loony bin rather than get away scot free.

So sayeth the Wiki: In most U.S. states, legal insanity is not sufficient to avoid a guilty verdict, rather to be not guilty by reason of insanity it must be demonstrated that the defendant could not tell the difference between right and wrong.
In civil law, insanity renders a person unfit for entering contracts or other legal obligations.

However, a Personality Disorder - which is more likely in this case - is NOT the same as insanity. Someone with PD just thinks everything should be done a certain way, or has strong control issues. They usually know the difference between right or wrong, or reality and fantasy.
And then there's the problem of psychotic vs psycopath vs sociopath:
A psychotic can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
A psychopath can't tell the difference between right or wrong.
A sociopath can tell the difference between right or wrong, they just don't care.

Thank you Psych 101!

[Matt Doc Martin]

I think the term "Happy Meal" falls into the public domain. But if McDonald's would like to take it up with me, they can.

[Les McClaine]

Quick question that is only marginally related here:

Does anyone know how to make a background clear in PS? I wanna whip up a T-shirt with the Sock Puppet.

Just double-click the background layer in the Layers palette. That'll turn it into "Layer 0." Then you can just select the area you want to make transparent and hit the delete key. Then just save as a .png or a .eps to keep the transparency.

[bert]

Like this:

http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin.100709414

wow. . that IS beautiful. .

[NatGertler]

Does anyone know how to make a background clear in PS? I wanna whip up a T-shirt with the Sock Puppet.Unless something has changed in recent revision: the "background" layer cannot be clear. You need to eliminate that layer altogether, or turn of its visibility on the layer pallet (click the little eye icon on the left of the layer list.)

If you have things on the background layer that you want to keep, use the command LAYER, NEW, LAYER FROM BACKGROUND to copy the background to a new layer before deleting the background layer.

Edited to add: What Les notes, double-clicking it to turn it into Layer 0, also works; it's a shortcut that I forgot about.

[Danny Donovan]

Hee! I know. I was just teasing you. :p

You have some great ideas going there. Danny, too! I'm not really sure yet what a simple fan/reader can do to help, though. But, be assured, if I DO think of something, you'll be the first to know. :)

~Bev

Thanks Bev, I learned some great things when I was working distribution for the iHero Ent. project. We're not stuck with the choices everyone tells us we are, as long as you have good backing (not just financial, but people that can quickly mobilize while the buzz is good)

I mean just by looking at simple solutions you can take your projects to some rather unconventional places. such as using that .cbr digital comic file extension to be able to allow people to download your book on a PSP (I believe you'll need that homebrew thing installed but--) selling cheap digital files via a model like iTunes undercuts the $2.99 price tag elsewhere, and gives you zero overhead to work from. Then you can focus on taking the profits from the digital experiment and funding your physical paper comics.

It's a shame the CAA mag didn't last past its first issue, I had a strong commitment from the newsstand which if we had kept it up would have turned some heads..

----

And about the Happy Meal thing, as long as you do it in as satire it falls under Fair Use. Thus there's no way for McDonald's to have a problem. Plus your using it in context with another copywritten thing, Wimpy's excuse from the Popeye cartoons so that also makes it safe via the satire laws.

[Gail Simone]

Cool, so are you available Tuesday night, from 7:30 to 9:00 PM Eastern time? If so, I will announce this in the Kick Start that will be posted tomorrow!

Unfortunately, this week is a wash til the weekend at least. Any time after that will work, but I'm away from home right now!

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Olney's finished.

Too many people have been screwed of WAY too much money, and he's been doing this for years. No dealing with him is likely to be honest, period. going by his long track record of lies, non-payment, delusion and threats.

He's done.

One less rotten, rotten apple "in" the industry. Good.


Gail

[JTPencils]

Double damn, stupid slow connection... sorry folks. Maybe I should ask Rick how to delete these things. I can't figure that one out.

[JTPencils]

Rats... double posted. Argh.

[JTPencils]

Olney's finished.

One less rotten, rotten apple "in" the industry. Good.


Gail

Please Gail, you're asserting that he was "in" the industry in the first place. I thought we'd already established he was "near" or a bystander at best.

As I like to say, "owning Photoshop doesn't make you an artist", and holding a con (or canceling them endlessly) doesn't put you in the industry.

Also, as a side note, I joined up at Unscrewed, and it sent me a verification for my password, but it's not working. I can't sign in. So, whoever's involved, or knows who is, could you let me know, I want to correct it ASAP.

Thanks.

[wishlish]

As soon as the scan is available from my source, I will post it.

You see, Ricky lied to us. (SHOCKING!!) He has been served AT LEAST once. And more ARE coming.

If he did not have a lawyer before, I am sure he is looking for one now.

Thanks, Matt.

Now, I am NOT a lawyer, but I am hoping that those taking legal action against Olney will at least announce it here. From what Gail says, there are still artists out there that are afraid of taking action against Olney. I'm hoping that those people will be emboldened by other lawsuits.

Mark Waid and Gail Simone really deserve thanks here. Instead of keeping quiet about Olney, they've taken bold action against this man and have forever exposed his fraudulent activity. You two make me proud to be a fan of comics.

[JTPencils]

If he did not have a lawyer before, I am sure he is looking for one now.

So here's my question, I've read through the thread, and isn't this all going to be a small claims court issue? If so, they usually suggest that no attorney is required. Not saying that he can't hire a lawyer, but they say it's usually not needed.

Or has it escalated into a higher case? I only inquire, so that I can decide whether or not I want to jump on the wagon and put in my claim as well. Not that I want this pigslop to get away with what he's done, but I also have to balance the time cost of going after him. Other's have much bigger claims to what's going on then I do.

[DarrenCawsey]

Mark Waid and Gail Simone really deserve thanks here. Instead of keeping quiet about Olney, they've taken bold action against this man and have forever exposed his fraudulent activity. You two make me proud to be a fan of comics.

I couldn't agree more!



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[THEDOC]

Heck, I'll do it.

Gail

Wow, hope you can make it to tonite's chat there are some there that are somewhat familiar with "Rick" and his antics. Though whether they speak or not, I am not sure, Tim, Ian and I will be there.

[Red Jack]

Damn.

This is raw.

I feel fortunate to have 'scaped contamination as it seems EVERYONE has, at some point, been sucked into the vortex.

Wow.

[Papergirl]

Mark Waid and Gail Simone really deserve thanks here. Instead of keeping quiet about Olney, they've taken bold action against this man and have forever exposed his fraudulent activity. You two make me proud to be a fan of comics.

A-FREAKIN'-MEN!

~Bev

[THEDOC]

Unfortunately, this week is a wash til the weekend at least. Any time after that will work, but I'm away from home right now!

Gail

Well I hope you can maqke it to the SSP'chat next Sunday. We'd love ta have ya.

[Papergirl]

Thanks Bev, I learned some great things when I was working distribution for the iHero Ent. project. We're not stuck with the choices everyone tells us we are, as long as you have good backing (not just financial, but people that can quickly mobilize while the buzz is good)

I mean just by looking at simple solutions you can take your projects to some rather unconventional places. such as using that .cbr digital comic file extension to be able to allow people to download your book on a PSP (I believe you'll need that homebrew thing installed but--) selling cheap digital files via a model like iTunes undercuts the $2.99 price tag elsewhere, and gives you zero overhead to work from. Then you can focus on taking the profits from the digital experiment and funding your physical paper comics.

It's a shame the CAA mag didn't last past its first issue, I had a strong commitment from the newsstand which if we had kept it up would have turned some heads..

Excellent ideas, and very much worth looking into by anyone wanting to jump start their business. And, as long as creative and committed people are involved, no, you're NOT stuck with the choices most will give you.

Why not try to restart the CAA mag? Doesn't have to be the same people involved, or even the same name. Post more about it here at YABS and see if there's any interest in contributing to it. You never know until you try. :)

~Bev

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Actually a round of applause for everyone sticking together. While I have my doubts he'll actually pay anyone when this is over, I do think this will be a good way to get rid of someone who's abused so many.

JP

[Mark Waid]

Mark Waid and Gail Simone really deserve thanks here. Instead of keeping quiet about Olney, they've taken bold action against this man and have forever exposed his fraudulent activity. You two make me proud to be a fan of comics.

You're too kind, putting me on any list of valor that includes Gail. She's led this charge against injustice; at best, I simply helped fund some armor for the troops. She's a gem, and if the end of the 21st century comes and goes without someone, somewhere, having erected a bronze memorial statue of Gail Simone, then something's askew. I left her a long, gooey voicemail message on the day of the tenth anniversary of our friendship to tell her much the same, and EVEN THOUGH SHE NEVER REPLIED, I choose to believe it was because she was too busy reading to the blind or somethin'.

We love Gail!

[Danny Donovan]

Excellent ideas, and very much worth looking into by anyone wanting to jump start their business. And, as long as creative and committed people are involved, no, you're NOT stuck with the choices most will give you.

Why not try to restart the CAA mag? Doesn't have to be the same people involved, or even the same name. Post more about it here at YABS and see if there's any interest in contributing to it. You never know until you try. :)

~Bev

Well unfortionately it really wasn't my project. CAA (or Cyber Age Adventures) was a project by the fellows at http://www.ihero.net I was just brought on as a freelancer because of my passable marketing skills and connections to certain people.

I think the iHero guys are going to try to do something with it, but I think they're looking to have a third party publisher produce the book so it's not out of the top guy's pocket like the first one was.

I had talked to an artist of mine who was thinking about doing something with old golden age characters from the Spark Universe (Green Lama and all them) who are all under public domain, and producing some kind of quarterly coffeetable book "further adventures of:" type of thing.

I'm happy to help anyone who wants to take some of the things I put forward at other places and run with them, if they want. I still have some of the contact addresses, for the newsstand people, and tips on how to get their attention.

At some point I might see what I can do about furthering the distribution angle for people, right now I have a few projects on my table (a manga I'm really excited about) so it might be awhile before I get involved with something as all encompasing as a magazine again, but I'll deffinately let people know if I go down that route again. lol.

Thanks Bev!

[bert]

You're too kind, putting me on any list of valor that includes Gail. She's led this charge against injustice; at best, I simply helped fund some armor for the troops. She's a gem, and if the end of the 21st century comes and goes without someone, somewhere, having erected a bronze memorial statue of Gail Simone, then something's askew. I left her a long, gooey voicemail message on the day of the tenth anniversary of our friendship to tell her much the same, and EVEN THOUGH SHE NEVER REPLIED, I choose to believe it was because she was too busy reading to the blind or somethin'.

We love Gail!

Mark. .

you rock. Plain and simple.

and don't you know the real reason why "Gail" never replied to your voicemail?

it's because she doesn't exist silly. . . haven't we ALL learned this "fact" by page 500 ?

[Papergirl]

...I choose to believe it was because she was too busy reading to the blind or somethin'.

Nonono... That's next week. She was busy saving kittens and puppies from burning buildings when you called her.

We love Gail!

Indeed! :)

~Bev

[DocAbsurd]

I don't how I can thank any of youse.

My Daphne convinced me to speak out against Blubberous one (she had an odd feeling about him even though she never spoke to him), but I wouldn't even have mentioned it to her if this discussion hadn't already started.

This has been nothing shy of amazing, both from the amount of support and the depravity Moby has sunk to. In my 2 year tour of hell with him, I never imagined he fecked so many creators without dinner and a movie. He kept us all from associating freely with each other, so this has been like surviving a tornado unscathed in the safety of a basement without ever suspecting your entire neighborhood has been destroyed.

I'm still sickened by all this.

And I'm still not entirely happy with myself for waiting so damn long.

[GCom]

...fecked ...

This word amused me. That is all.



With Tolerance For Amusement Being Everything...

GCom

[the4thpip]

Over 500 pages??
Argh. I still wasn't caught up from the weekend in Paris, now my weekend in Amsterdam means I'll never catch up. I'm on page 180 or so. :(

[Sarah Beach]

I don't how I can thank any of youse.

My Daphne convinced me to speak out against Blubberous one (she had an odd feeling about him even though she never spoke to him), but I wouldn't even have mentioned it to her if this discussion hadn't already started.

This has been nothing shy of amazing, both from the amount of support and the depravity Moby has sunk to. In my 2 year tour of hell with him, I never imagined he fecked so many creators without dinner and a movie. He kept us all from associating freely with each other, so this has been like surviving a tornado unscathed in the safety of a basement without ever suspecting your entire neighborhood has been destroyed.

I'm still sickened by all this.

And I'm still not entirely happy with myself for waiting so damn long.

Doc, don't knock yourself out over it. As has been said before, you want to think the best of the people you know. And that speaks well of you.

And when one is financially invested in a situation (as you were, in waiting to be paid), one tends to be much more cautious. In my case, in dealing with him on Dixonverse, and letting him expose himself there, I wasn't invested - other than as a friend of Chuck's. It let me be far more impersonal in the situation. And then Gail picked up the ball and ran. (And dang, I'm mixing metaphors all over the place here.) But she too wasn't "invested" in any current situation. If we've given you the support to get you over that hesitancy, then that's great. What is far more important is that you finally DID speak up -- and probably broke the same log-jam for others as well.

Lots of little things came together. And Gail gave it a save home to take root and grow. (And shoot, ANOTHER metaphor. Can't I stick with one? :) )

[Papergirl]

And I'm still not entirely happy with myself for waiting so damn long.

Stop beating yourself up, Doc. Not a single person here blames you or holds you responsible for Asshat's (in)actions. :)

*hugs Doc and Daphne* You guys rock, too.

~Bev

[TCJohnson]

You're too kind, putting me on any list of valor that includes Gail. She's led this charge against injustice; at best, I simply helped fund some armor for the troops. She's a gem, and if the end of the 21st century comes and goes without someone, somewhere, having erected a bronze memorial statue of Gail Simone, then something's askew. I left her a long, gooey voicemail message on the day of the tenth anniversary of our friendship to tell her much the same, and EVEN THOUGH SHE NEVER REPLIED, I choose to believe it was because she was too busy reading to the blind or somethin'.

We love Gail!


Sorry, as much as I respect "Gail Simone" (which is a lot!), your generous offer just floored me. Falsu humility aside, you, sir, are a hero.

[wishlish]

You're too kind, putting me on any list of valor that includes Gail. She's led this charge against injustice; at best, I simply helped fund some armor for the troops. She's a gem, and if the end of the 21st century comes and goes without someone, somewhere, having erected a bronze memorial statue of Gail Simone, then something's askew. I left her a long, gooey voicemail message on the day of the tenth anniversary of our friendship to tell her much the same, and EVEN THOUGH SHE NEVER REPLIED, I choose to believe it was because she was too busy reading to the blind or somethin'.

We love Gail!

Mark, don't underestimate your role in this fight. Every good army needs a good treasurer. And if you ever get lonely from Gail not calling you, you can call me up and do a dramatic reading from Absolute Kingdom Come. My copy's in my bookshelf right here.

[Chris N]

So, I was thinking of using spreadshirt to make a T-shirt that says:


Rick Olney will sue me for wearing this shirt

What do people think?

[sk716]

So, I was thinking of using spreadshirt to make a T-shirt that says:


Rick Olney will sue me for wearing this shirt

What do people think?

Change it to:

Rick Olney says he's going to sue me for wearing this shirt.

[Koben Kelly]

So, I was thinking of using spreadshirt to make a T-shirt that says:

Rick Olney will sue me for wearing this shirt

What do people think?

May I rephrase?

Rick Olney will have his fictitious, 19-year-old lawyer sue me for wearing this shirt

---Koben:)

[wishlish]

So, I was thinking of using spreadshirt to make a T-shirt that says:


Rick Olney will sue me for wearing this shirt

What do people think?

In small print:

"except he can't afford a lawyer"

[Papergirl]

May I rephrase?

Rick Olney will have his fictitious, 19-year-old lawyer sue me for wearing this shirt

---Koben:)
Nonono... It SHOULD say:

"Rick Olney will have his fictitious 19-year-old ALMOST lawyer sue me for wearing this shirt...

... If I don't sign his NDA."

~Bev

[DarrenCawsey]

I just had to laugh when I read this:
Law suits and in lots of cases lawyers willing to sue over the most mundane and ridiculous things are a great cause of social angst.

-----
Rick Olney

taken from the following Board where he moans about the vilification of the NRA and frivolous laws and lawsuits:

http://cgi.uticaod.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=36&topic=37




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[TCJohnson]

Ok, I am beginning to wonder if he has multiple personalities...one really dumb and one really evil?

[Papergirl]

Ok, I am beginning to wonder if he has multiple personalities...one really dumb and one really evil?
I'm voting for one stupidly evil personality. He's dumb, even when he tries to be evil.

EDIT: Actually, he's dumb AND evil all the time. There's no difference at all in his personality.

~Bev

[the4thpip]

I think Doc Absurd isn't the one who should have to work two jobs. Olney should be working two (or maybe three) jobs to pay the people he owes money, including Doc.
If Olney spent half the time he's online flipping burgers, he probably could come up with a plan to pay off his debts.

[TCJohnson]

I'm voting for one stupidly evil personality. He's dumb, even when he tries to be evil.

EDIT: Actually, he's dumb AND evil all the time. There's no difference at all in his personality.

~Bev

but...but....he threatens to sue at the drop of the hat and then beomaons frivilous lawsuits.

Huh?

[Papergirl]

but...but....he threatens to sue at the drop of the hat and then beomaons frivilous lawsuits.

Huh?
Yes, but he's dumb for threatening something he CAN'T back up with action. All to continue committing fraud. And bemoaning the frivilous lawsuits is a dumb thing to do after threatening people with frivilous lawsuits...

See the cycle there?

~Bev

[TCJohnson]

But...wait, no.....there is no cycle. THere is no consistancy to this man whatsoever. Everything about him is a contradiction and not in a fascinating way!

I demand there be some consistancy to his stupidity!

[sk716]

but...but....he threatens to sue at the drop of the hat and then beomaons frivilous lawsuits.

Huh?

That's just because he's an asshole.

[Papergirl]

But...wait, no.....there is no cycle. THere is no consistancy to this man whatsoever. Everything about him is a contradiction and not in a fascinating way!

I demand there be some consistancy to his stupidity!
Nonono... You're not looking at the BIG picture.

Everything he's done, every lie he's told... It's ALL stupid. Every bit of it. If he was just evil, he'd have made a fortune off the works of those he never paid. But he hasn't. BECAUSE he's stupid!

~Bev

[Sparvid]

Earlier, I was going to suggest a "I'm Rick Olney's lawyer"-shirt (it would be the new "I shot J.R."), but then I realized that if people took it seriously, you'd get various lawsuits handed to you constantly whenever you left the house wearing it...

[TCJohnson]

Nonono... You're not looking at the BIG picture.

Everything he's done, every lie he's told... It's ALL stupid. Every bit of it. If he was just evil, he'd have made a fortune off the works of those he never paid. But he hasn't. BECAUSE he's stupid!

~Bev

Yes, but it is not consistant. His stupidity is messy! He makes really stupid spelling mistakes and then takes other people to task for making typos (as opposed to me who just makes really stupid spelling mistakes.) He talks about other people's dumb lawsuits and then threatens to make his own.

I want him to be a consistant moron!

And personally I think he did make a good deal of money from those people he ripped off...after all he doesn't have a job we know about.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

But...wait, no.....there is no cycle. THere is no consistancy to this man whatsoever. Everything about him is a contradiction and not in a fascinating way!

I demand there be some consistancy to his stupidity!

This should be my answer to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6ZcAI6Aq0Y

[KevinTBrown]

You're too kind, putting me on any list of valor that includes Gail. She's led this charge against injustice; at best, I simply helped fund some armor for the troops. She's a gem, and if the end of the 21st century comes and goes without someone, somewhere, having erected a bronze memorial statue of Gail Simone, then something's askew. I left her a long, gooey voicemail message on the day of the tenth anniversary of our friendship to tell her much the same, and EVEN THOUGH SHE NEVER REPLIED, I choose to believe it was because she was too busy reading to the blind or somethin'.

We love Gail!

No, you never signed the NDA.

[JTPencils]

So, I was thinking of using spreadshirt to make a T-shirt that says:


Rick Olney will sue me for wearing this shirt

What do people think?

How about the standard?

"I did work for Rick Olney, and all I'll end up with is this T shirt..."

Or...

"Signed an NDA... $.37 postage
Did work for TLE... (amount withheld)
Watched Rick have a meltdown and threaten to sue... priceless"


Now ya see why I'm not a writer, and only draw the little pictures...

[uber steve]

Thanks for the welcome, Dedagda.

I'm not in the comics industry apart from making a weekly contribution as a consumer. I do custom IT solutions. Similar though, as there are a lot of good people but a few deadbeats who spoil the business.

Funny thing is that most deadbeats who I have in my Now Delinquent Account list :) also had such great ideas that I had to sign an NDA to hear them talk. The only two I ever went after for payment are the ones that actually had some money, as small claims courts cost money and I don't like sending good money after bad.

Sadly, small claims court up here in Ontario doesn't help you get payment even if you win. You need a collections agent for that.

Cheers.


Welcome Uber Steve!

I don't know if your business is in comics, but the community is made up of so many small businesses in publishing and retailing. This thread is so fascinating to me because I can see how easy it would be to follow down the path.

Just because you build it doesn't mean they will come. Too many folks have been screwed over by Rick's aspirations to build a great show or a great publishing empire.

Most of the people here have dreams and aspirations of their own. I think we expect some level of work in earnest of building something for that dream. I see it in the small press and individuals bringing their comics into the store.

But the sheer number of folks he's dragged into his aspirations is staggering. Plus the way in which he's treated them is disgusting. These are good people with a passion and excitement for comics.

I read the thread and take so much of it into myself. I just wish I could make it all better.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

How about the standard?

"I did work for Rick Olney, and all I'll end up with is this T shirt..."

Or...

"Signed an NDA... $.37 postage
Did work for TLE... (amount withheld)
Watched Rick have a meltdown and threaten to sue... priceless"


Now ya see why I'm not a writer, and only draw the little pictures...

Hmm...

How about:

"Rick Olney paid me with this stupid T Shirt"

[Papergirl]

"Signed an NDA... $.37 postage
Did work for TLE... (amount withheld)
Watched Rick have a meltdown and threaten to sue... priceless"

Dammit! Tea all over my monitor again!

But, I would so buy one of those! :D

~Bev

[Cam63]

Hmm...

How about:

"Rick Olney paid me with this stupid T Shirt"

...AND it was the one he'd been wearing for the last week.

*Picks up with tongs and tosses into furnace*

*Furnace screams*

[Blake Petit]

You guys are gonna expand my wardrobe, you realize that. :LOL:

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

...AND it was the one he'd been wearing for the last week.

*Picks up with tongs and tosses into furnace*

*Furnace screams*

So does the fire

JP

[Matt Algren]

I don't know if anyone's mentioned it (65 pages in two days?!? Again?), but all blog entries have now disappeared from Rick's myspace page.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

You guys are gonna expand my wardrobe, you realize that. :LOL:

Rick Olney Wear: For the Cheapskate in You.

[Cam63]

I'm suddenly reminded of my janitorial days...

JP

Yeah, what is it with some bastards who choose to express themselves by pissing and shitting anywhere else besides the toilet ?

[Cam63]

I don't know if anyone's mentioned it (65 pages in two days?!? Again?), but all blog entries have now disappeared from Rick's myspace page.

Incriminating evidence he may've been advised to delete.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I don't know if anyone's mentioned it (65 pages in two days?!? Again?), but all blog entries have now disappeared from Rick's myspace page.

Been mentioned. Most shared a " well we knew that would happen " laugh. ;)

[Blake Petit]

I'm actually surprised the blogs lasted as long as they DID...

[Papergirl]

Incriminating evidence he may've been advised to delete.
Doesn't help him. We got back-ups, on top of back-ups, on top of back-ups...

He's toast. :D

~Bev

[Cam63]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/vigilant_oblivion/rickpokesyabs.gif

My work here is done.

I love this.

Thank you, Sall'.

[Cam63]

I'm actually surprised the blogs lasted as long as they DID...

Well, he is proud of any and all stupid shit he produces.

I bet he had tears in his eyes when he hit the delete button.

[Cam63]

I'm kinda dissapointed, guys. Yesterday morning, it took me two hours to read how much the thread had grown overnight. Today it's just 10 minutes? What gives?

People are exhausted, Blake.

We've had to set up rest stops and arrange for medical services.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Yeah, what is it with some bastards who choose to express themselves by pissing and shitting anywhere else besides the toilet ?

And that was the NICE stuff...on the plus side, I've truly seen hell. Almost nothing phases me anymore.

JP

[Matt Doc Martin]

I don't know if anyone's mentioned it (65 pages in two days?!? Again?), but all blog entries have now disappeared from Rick's myspace page.

Yeah...and he took away his greetings to the cbr plebes as well.


I am finishing up updating my file collection.

[Blake Petit]

Exactly how big IS that collection at this point? I mean, in terms of megabytes.

[Karl J. Barnes]

People are exhausted, Blake.

We've had to set up rest stops and arrange for medical services.

And Cam had to go on a Beer run.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Exactly how big IS that collection at this point? I mean, in terms of megabytes.


20. I imagine it will hit 30.

[wishlish]

I think Doc Absurd isn't the one who should have to work two jobs. Olney should be working two (or maybe three) jobs to pay the people he owes money, including Doc.
If Olney spent half the time he's online flipping burgers, he probably could come up with a plan to pay off his debts.

Problem: his online profile indicates he hasn't held down a non-comics job since 1998. He can't get ONE job to hire him. And seriously, would you hire him for anything?

[JTPencils]

And seriously, would you hire him for anything?

I would... then I'd work his ass for months on end, and then not pay him.

After he signed his NDA of course.

[Cam63]

Olney's finished.

Too many people have been screwed of WAY too much money, and he's been doing this for years. No dealing with him is likely to be honest, period. going by his long track record of lies, non-payment, delusion and threats.

He's done.

One less rotten, rotten apple "in" the industry. Good.


Gail

I dunno...

We may hear of others getting ripped off by him in future, once things settle down after the current mess he's put himself in.

I don't think Olney has any other skills besides being an incompetent conman and arsehole.

[Cam63]

And Cam had to go on a Beer run.

It was a beer sprint... and I broke a world speed record, pissing off professional athletes big time !

[Blake Petit]

And he gets bonus points for getting Austrailian beer -- those cans are friggin' HUGE.

[Cam63]

" Cans " !?

I'm not a barbarian !

[Crowley]

Problem: his online profile indicates he hasn't held down a non-comics job since 1998. He can't get ONE job to hire him. And seriously, would you hire him for anything?

His last job was check writer...



...it must have traumatized him.

[JTPencils]

Dammit! Tea all over my monitor again!

But, I would so buy one of those! :D

~Bev

Sorry about the monitor Bev (you really should consider a splash guard)...

As for the shirt, how about one with some unpaid for artwork as the background?

[Matt Doc Martin]

" Cans " !?

I'm not a barbarian !

I would have said kegs.

But that is because I believe in you.

[Blake Petit]

You could do an entire clothing line with THAT...

[Cam63]

I would have said kegs.

But that is because I believe in you.

Street punk waves a beer can in an Australian's face.

" That's not a can, mate. " *Pulls out a keg from under his jacket*

"...Now, that's a can. "

[Blake Petit]

:D

I stand amused.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Street punk waves a beer can in an Australian's face.

" That's not a can, mate. " *Pulls out a keg from under his jacket*

"...Now, that's a can. "

A joke like that makes me question your Australia-ness.

You're really a Kiwi...aren't you?!?!?

[KevinTBrown]

Dammit! Tea all over my monitor again!

But, I would so buy one of those! :D

~Bev

Here, Bev, you may want to invest in one of these:

http://www.dunhamdesigns.com/picshome/sneeze_guard.JPG


;)

[DarrenCawsey]

A joke like that makes me question your Australia-ness.

You're really a Kiwi...aren't you?!?!?

Hey, watch it. We would never make Crocodile Dundee jokes.


Possibly convict jokes, but that's neither here nor there.




---------------------

[Cam63]

A joke like that makes me question your Australia-ness.

You're really a Kiwi...aren't you?!?!?

I've never been asked that question before.

Hmm... I do like the haka.

[Papergirl]

" Cans " !?

I'm not a barbarian !

Easy, Cam... Don't kill the poor fool...


~Bev

[Papergirl]

Sorry about the monitor Bev (you really should consider a splash guard)...
Or just give up drinking anything while reading these forums...

As for the shirt, how about one with some unpaid for artwork as the background?
PERFECT!!

I want one now!

~Bev

[Papergirl]

Here, Bev, you may want to invest in one of these:

;)

Just how much desk space do you think I have?! :eek:

~Bev

[DarrenCawsey]

I've never been asked that question before.

Hmm... I do like the haka.

I have to admit (in a whisper so's I'm not overheard and subsequently lynched) I really get sick of it.

I think it has been so overused it's become nothing more than a cliche, a bit of a joke really.

Still i wish we had an Aussie Rules team so I could giggle at what their version of it would look like.



---------------------

[Matt Doc Martin]

I've never been asked that question before.

Hmm... I do like the haka.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba02LE4A45I


Fearsome! I want to see my New England Patriots do it before they take on the Colts.

[JTPencils]

PERFECT!!

I want one now!

~Bev

If Doc or anyone wants to whump one up with some artwork, let me know, I'd be happy to send it along. I'm starting to post some of it over at the Unscrewed! Site now.

[sk716]

If Doc or anyone wants to whump one up with some artwork, let me know, I'd be happy to send it along. I'm starting to post some of it over at the Unscrewed! Site now.

To elaborate:

The Unscrewed! (http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/index.php) Site is open, even if it's not done and JT already has a gallery of unpaid for artwork uploaded there.

Anybody else got unpaid for art? Let me know, we'll get you hooked up with a gallery to show it off.

[Larry Dixon]

Or just give up drinking anything while reading these forums...

But spit-takes are a mainstay of comedy.

---------
And here is how the thread stands:

The ball has been knocked out of the park; a standing homer. The leather vanishes in a glory arc above the fences. The ashwood falls away from the worn batting glove, in slow motion, as the cleated toe pivots to begin the loping run around the bases. The promoters, teammates and fans jump in place and cheer.

[Papergirl]

But spit-takes are a mainstay of comedy.

---------
And here is how the thread stands:

The ball has been knocked out of the park; a standing homer. The leather vanishes in a glory arc above the fences. The ashwood falls away from the worn batting glove, in slow motion, as the cleated toe pivots to begin the loping run around the bases. The promoters, teammates and fans jump in place and cheer.
Yes, but not when it ruins my monitor! :p

~Bev

[Larry Dixon]

Yes, but not when it ruins my monitor! :p

~Bev

We all make sacrifices for our art sometimes. Just imagine the bruises and abrasions Chevy Chase underwent, practicing for his pratfalls!

[Cam63]

Bev, have you ever considered turning your head to the side before you spit ?

[Larry Dixon]

Bev, have you ever considered turning your head to the side before you spit ?

Strangely enough, Cam, that's what her 22nd boyfriend said after a particular kiss.

[AaronJ]

Strangely enough, Cam, that's what her 22nd boyfriend said after a particular kiss.

Oh.

I don't even know WHAT to say.

[Solaris]

Strangely enough, Cam, that's what her 22nd boyfriend said after a particular kiss.

But if it's "Wuv, Twu Wuv"... you swallow. :D

(Yes, it's late and I'm being bad... but we've been cutting and burning underbrush all day and half the night, and I'm tired. We'll be turning the ashes back into the soil, too... but thankfully, that's another day.)

[Papergirl]

We all make sacrifices for our art sometimes. Just imagine the bruises and abrasions Chevy Chase underwent, practicing for his pratfalls!

Bev, have you ever considered turning your head to the side before you spit ?

:p to both of you!*

~Bev
*In other words, it's late, I'm tired, and I can't think of a good comeback right now. :p

[Cam63]

Strangely enough, Cam, that's what her 22nd boyfriend said after a particular kiss.

Yeah and then she keelhauled him like she did the others.

[Papergirl]

Strangely enough, Cam, that's what her 22nd boyfriend said after a particular kiss.
That's it. You're off my Christmas card list, pal!

~Bev

[Solaris]

:p to both of you!*

~Bev
*In other words, it's late, I'm tired, and I can't think of a good comeback right now.


I'll help, Bev!

Cam... have YOU??? :D

Larry: I'm sure it's nothing compared to "catching chalk" and getting those lovely wrist scars from sharp talons.

:D ;)

[Papergirl]

Hahahahahaha!

Nice ones, Chris! :D

~Bev

[Cam63]

I hate tag teams...

[Papergirl]

... And what were YOU and LARRY doing to me, hmmm? :p

~Bev

[Cam63]

Who's Larry ?

[Crowley]

Yes, but not when it ruins my monitor! :p

~Bev

but that makes it funnier...

besides we've seen the pirate keyboard:
http://www.studio2f.com/misc/images/corsair-thumb.jpg

[JTPencils]

Who's Larry ?

He was the guy in the middle with the really funny frizzy hair, always asking "Hey, what'd ya hit 'm for?"

Also known far and wide as "Porcupine".

[Papergirl]

That's not a real pirate keyboard. It doesn't have a "Keelhaul the landlubbin piece of barnacle" key on it. Sheesh. At least get it right!

~Bev

[Solaris]

Hahahahahaha!

Nice ones, Chris! :D

~Bev

Well, we gals have to stick together. ;) Got your back, hon!

[Cam63]

He was the guy in the middle with the really funny frizzy hair, always asking "Hey, what'd ya hit 'm for?"

Also known far and wide as "Porcupine".

Ahh... My old history master.

[Papergirl]

Well, we gals have to stick together. ;) Got your back, hon!
Hee! Glad I got you on MY side! :D

~Bev

[Cam63]

Don't trust her, Sol' ! She'll get you close only so she can*...

*Falls over ships rail with dagger in back*

SPLASH !

( third time this week )

[Solaris]

Hee! Glad I got you on MY side! :D

~Bev

Argh, I gotta get to bed. Carry on the flag without me, hon. I'm totally wiped. Time to go wet down the fire and rake the coals, and get to bed. See ya tomorrow! :) (And it's great to see you back!)

[Solaris]

Don't trust her, Sol' ! She'll get you close only so she can*...

*Falls over ships rail with dagger in back*

SPLASH !

( third time this week )


Are you kidding? I know this woman. The worst she'd do is hit me with one of her "Fenris squirt bottles"! :D

[Papergirl]

Nah. I only stab disloyal swabbies. :D

~Bev

[Papergirl]

Are you kidding? I know this woman. The worst she'd do is hit me with one of her "Fenris squirt bottles"! :D

Exactly! :D

Argh, I gotta get to bed. Carry on the flag without me, hon. I'm totally wiped. Time to go wet down the fire and rake the coals, and get to bed. See ya tomorrow! :) (And it's great to see you back!)

It's great to BE back! I missed this place and it's wacky denizens so much!

Sleep well, hon!

~Bev

[TCJohnson]

FRANKENBORG?!


He really, honest to goshness, had a character named FRANKENBORG?

Really?

No!

Yes?

Holy crap, that sucks!

Frankenborg?

[Danny Donovan]

FRANKENBORG?!


He really, honest to goshness, had a character named FRANKENBORG?

Really?

No!

Yes?

Holy crap, that sucks!

Frankenborg?

Hey, resistance is futile you know. It was only a matter of time before they got Boris Karloff.

[MacQuarrie]

With EVERYTHING that was said out of anger and uttered from ignorance on both sides -- You have to be more specific regarding exactly what offended you as what "orcafresh" said.
Just answer the question as asked. Do you stand behind the things you posted or not?

I stand behind every word I wrote. Do you?

[MacQuarrie]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORComx/SWScan00072.jpg

That should be sufficient enough to suit you, Colleen. That is me in uniform on my wedding day back in 1975. Note the dress and rank. Shame on the lot of you!
The resolution on that image is far too low to determine (a) the rank or (b) the identity of the man in uniform.

I do have to say, though, the clothing on all the civilians looks to be of an older vintage than 1975. I'd say it looks to be somewhere between 1968 and 1972, but, again, at this resolution it's impossible to be sure.

Anyway, how are people who have never met you supposed to identify you from this photo?

I'd call this "evidence" inconclusive at best.

[MacQuarrie]

I gave you more than that. Just understand that you'll feel awful after learning I was right and you were wrong. And, no, I won't told my breath for an apology. Some here I'll answer. Others I won't. No trolls.
If you'll take a look right here (http://comicfacts.blogspot.com/2006/06/apology-and-retraction_16.html), you'll see that when I'm wrong, I apologize and retract. And I don't delete the original fatheaded post, either. I take my lumps. I post under my real name specifically so I HAVE to take my lumps and be responsible for what I say.

That's what grown-ups do.

[MacQuarrie]

Me... chosing to remove my posts here should be perfectly fine. ANYONE can do it. There is nothing written that says a person can't.

"Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same as being right in doing it." --G.K. Chesterton

[MacQuarrie]

I was tired. At that time, I was having thyroid trouble off and on. I know some have made fun of my health, but it is as I've spoken of it over the years. Ask Dennis. Or maybe he won't tell you. I don't know. Anyway... you can continue to call me names. It'll work out.
Your health problems? It's because your body is trying to kill you. It can't live with you anymore. It wants to die of shame.

[AIPman1]

Unfortunately, this week is a wash til the weekend at least. Any time after that will work, but I'm away from home right now!

Gail

I sent you an e-mail Gail. We'll work out an official appearance, and let people know. Tentatively, the 23rd...

[JTPencils]

FRANKENBORG?!


He really, honest to goshness, had a character named FRANKENBORG?

Really?

No!

Yes?

Holy crap, that sucks!

Frankenborg?

TC, I just drew her, I didn't come up with the idea... but uh... yes Virginia, there is a Frankenborg.

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/mediaobjects/orig/e/ebb7bb7abc435a307271797634ffd6af.jpg

[DocAbsurd]

I was tired. At that time, I was having thyroid trouble off and on. I know some have made fun of my health, but it is as I've spoken of it over the years. Ask Dennis. Or maybe he won't tell you. I don't know. Anyway... you can continue to call me names. It'll work out.

That's the one I was looking for.

'Thyroid'. 'Heart'. 'Medications'. When anyone else says something like this, it's an 'excuse', a ploy for 'sympathy'; to you, it's part of your business plan.

And then you have the nerve to accuse us of making fun of your health when half your attacks consist of the exact same thing?




Doc 'Have You Had Your Irony Today?' Absurd

[Kozemp]

Morning all.

I must say, it's bad enough that for the last week or so I've been getting paid to read and comment on this whole shebangbang. Today, though, I'm getting time and a HALF! for it. And I get to take my vacation day later. Life is good when you are not a lying fuck.

Speaking of which, "he" has been awfully quiet of late. Lawyer got your tongue?

And, er, Frankenborg? Wow. Just... wow.

JLK
loves time and a half

[singoalla]

Yes, have "they" served him yet? Did "they" take his computer away along with anything else of value in order to pay those who haven't been paid yet?

~singo - hoping justice be done for once, along with payment

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yes, have "they" served him yet? Did "they" take his computer away along with anything else of value in order to pay those who haven't been paid yet?

~singo - hoping justice be done for once, along with payment



Yes, he HAS been served at least once.

And I think it is pretty telling that he hasn't been online since Saturday.

[David O Burcham]

I guess it's possible that Olney was a Marine.

Lee Harvey Oswald was.

[THEDOC]

I don't how I can thank any of youse.

My Daphne convinced me to speak out against Blubberous one (she had an odd feeling about him even though she never spoke to him), but I wouldn't even have mentioned it to her if this discussion hadn't already started.

This has been nothing shy of amazing, both from the amount of support and the depravity Moby has sunk to. In my 2 year tour of hell with him, I never imagined he fecked so many creators without dinner and a movie. He kept us all from associating freely with each other, so this has been like surviving a tornado unscathed in the safety of a basement without ever suspecting your entire neighborhood has been destroyed.

I'm still sickened by all this.

And I'm still not entirely happy with myself for waiting so damn long.


Ah, Tim, better late than never. Look forward not back.

[TomStillwell]

The resolution on that image is far too low to determine (a) the rank or (b) the identity of the man in uniform.

I do have to say, though, the clothing on all the civilians looks to be of an older vintage than 1975. I'd say it looks to be somewhere between 1968 and 1972, but, again, at this resolution it's impossible to be sure.

Anyway, how are people who have never met you supposed to identify you from this photo?

I'd call this "evidence" inconclusive at best.

I'm also wondering why he doesn't have any closer shots of his wedding day picture with his bride.

I'm married. I've had a wedding and been to dozens. Have you ever known any couple to take shots from just far away and not a portrait shot? If that truly is his wedding day he'd have a closeup somewhere.

[THEDOC]

I'm also wondering why he doesn't have any closer shots of his wedding day picture with his bride.

I'm married. I've had a wedding and been to dozens. Have you ever known any couple to take shots from just far away and not a portrait shot? If that truly is his wedding day he'd have a closeup somewhere.

Cause the photographer didn't sign a NDA so Rick didn't pay him.

[Solaris]

The resolution on that image is far too low to determine (a) the rank or (b) the identity of the man in uniform.

I do have to say, though, the clothing on all the civilians looks to be of an older vintage than 1975. I'd say it looks to be somewhere between 1968 and 1972, but, again, at this resolution it's impossible to be sure.

Anyway, how are people who have never met you supposed to identify you from this photo?

I'd call this "evidence" inconclusive at best.

Looking at the pic under a bit of enlargement, it *might* be Olney, but again, there's not enough detail to be certain of it.

I agree on the clothing styles, and the one young guy in the back with the sideburns and period haircut, etc. looks late 60's to very early 70's. By the mid 70's, most people had either gone to the longhair or the disco look.

The car in the background looks to be either an El Camino or a Ford Ranchero, more likely the Camino... but again, based on the photos of the cars I've been able to find, the styling of the rear end looks like earlier models from the beginning to mid 60's... late in the 60's, they rounded and "sportified" the styling on both vehicles. Granted, an older car doesn't mean an older date than given; but had the vehicle been a newer one, it would've supported his statement.

Conclusion: agree with Jim: evidence is inconclusive to support Olney's claim of either time or identification.

(Yes folks, I was frickin' bored.)

Now, for my question:

If you can find at least one set of photos with "you in your uniform"... why can't you find your discharge paperwork, or one single thing online or off, that proves your military service? Even a photo from someplace like Okinawa, with you in uniform that clearly shows your face, would do. Heck, most people got at least one "formal dress" pic done, when they entered back then. My grandmother had one of my uncle, when he entered the Navy in the mid-60's. Surely, between that custom, and the custom of people in a foreign place getting their picture taken there, you've got at least ONE photo of you in uniform that's recognizeably you?

[Sparvid]

Well, didn't he post a fair share of details when he started using his latest login? Has anyone done a new check in various public records based on those?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Couldn't someone take the picture and run off a copy and go have it enlarged enough . To get the peoples faces and all to see if it is in fact Olney ? I know they do some great things now with modern technology.

[EdContradictory]

Couldn't someone take the picture and run off a copy and go have it enlarged enough . To get the peoples faces and all to see if it is in fact Olney ? I know they do some great things now with modern technology.
You'd be enlarging a digital image. There's no detail in that. Just blocky pixels.

[Blake Petit]

Well, JT, at least that jigsaw puzzle logo thingie is kinda cool. Yours, I assume?

[JTPencils]

Well, JT, at least that jigsaw puzzle logo thingie is kinda cool. Yours, I assume?

Actually, the puzzle logo is from the inker... who wishes to remain nameless in regards to the defendant. Just figure's he wasted enough time (and energy) on him, but didn't mind that I showed this image at all. I just stick strictly to pencils.... that's it.

[TCJohnson]

TC, I just drew her, I didn't come up with the idea... but uh... yes Virginia, there is a Frankenborg.



Oh, not putting any of that on you. You did a good job on the art but Olney's concept...Frankenborg?

To be fair, I came up with a really similiar concept when I was 10.

[Jared H.]

Just wanted to say something, real quick.

I know there's a thread where people like myself can learn what books/comic to snag to help those screwed over by Olney. I'm going to grab a bunch of them. But I also want those creators who have not been screwed by Olney, but have posted in this thread speaking out against him, to please find the time to PM me the name of and where I can buy at least one of your works. Mac, Typo, Larry, Tom, that means you guys(and others).

I have seen more standup behavior here in the last month than I've seen over the entire internet in the past several years. And, quite frankly, I want to do anything I can to support people such as yourselves.

I can't promise much, as I've gotta start saving up for my wedding and get through nursing school, but I've got more than many people do, and I figure that exposing myself to the works of people like yourselves can only be to my benefit.

I'll also do whatever I can to spread the word of your works to others.

I'm sorry that the only way I can think of to help with this debacle is to do what I do anyway: be a consumer. But please, take the time and let me know so that I can partake of your product, whatever it may be.

-Jared.

[Magneto_X]

FRANKENBORG?!


He really, honest to goshness, had a character named FRANKENBORG?

Really?

No!

Yes?

Holy crap, that sucks!

Frankenborg?

Actually, that's a great name for a character.

Sounds like a great comedy mini or ongoing (ala The Goon).

[TCJohnson]

Just wanted to say something, real quick.

I know there's a thread where people like myself can learn what books/comic to snag to help those screwed over by Olney. I'm going to grab a bunch of them. But I also want those creators who have not been screwed by Olney, but have posted in this thread speaking out against him, to please find the time to PM me the name of and where I can buy at least one of your works. Mac, Typo, Larry, Tom, that means you guys(and others).

Except why PM? I would like to know this as well.

[Magneto_X]

TC, I just drew her, I didn't come up with the idea... but uh... yes Virginia, there is a Frankenborg.

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/mediaobjects/orig/e/ebb7bb7abc435a307271797634ffd6af.jpg

Use it in one of your projects, man!

Consider it a part of Rick's "compensation" for your time.

Btw, your art rocks! :D

[Jared H.]

Except why PM? I would like to know this as well.

That way I wouldn't lose it to the miasma that is this thread. I'm at home sick with a fever today, and it's the only reason I've been able to keep up.

But by all means, share the love here as well. The more people know, the better. And I can dig if I have to. It'll be worth it, methinks.

[PatrickG]

Actually, that's a great name for a character.

Sounds like a great comedy mini or ongoing (ala The Goon).

Sounds Swedish.

[AIPman1]

I invite everyone here to come to the Dimestore site to read my Kick Start article on Being Accountable in the publishing world.

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/

Let me know what you think.

[Jared H.]

Out of curiousity...

anyone well-versed in wikipedia? I'm thinking a Rick Olney wiki would more easily give the proper info to the masses.

I can try and help, but to be honest, the only wiki I've ever had anything to do with was this one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spellfire_%28Forgotten_Realms%29)(sad, I know), and that was for use in an RPG on the Rumbles board...

[PatrickG]

You're too kind, putting me on any list of valor that includes Gail. She's led this charge against injustice; at best, I simply helped fund some armor for the troops. She's a gem, and if the end of the 21st century comes and goes without someone, somewhere, having erected a bronze memorial statue of Gail Simone, then something's askew. I left her a long, gooey voicemail message on the day of the tenth anniversary of our friendship to tell her much the same, and EVEN THOUGH SHE NEVER REPLIED, I choose to believe it was because she was too busy reading to the blind or somethin'.

We love Gail!

Ten years? You were friends before YABS? ... Wow.

[Sarah Beach]

Just wanted to say something, real quick.

I know there's a thread where people like myself can learn what books/comic to snag to help those screwed over by Olney. I'm going to grab a bunch of them. But I also want those creators who have not been screwed by Olney, but have posted in this thread speaking out against him, to please find the time to PM me the name of and where I can buy at least one of your works. Mac, Typo, Larry, Tom, that means you guys(and others).

I have seen more standup behavior here in the last month than I've seen over the entire internet in the past several years. And, quite frankly, I want to do anything I can to support people such as yourselves.

I can't promise much, as I've gotta start saving up for my wedding and get through nursing school, but I've got more than many people do, and I figure that exposing myself to the works of people like yourselves can only be to my benefit.

I'll also do whatever I can to spread the word of your works to others.

I'm sorry that the only way I can think of to help with this debacle is to do what I do anyway: be a consumer. But please, take the time and let me know so that I can partake of your product, whatever it may be.

-Jared.

That's cool of you Jared. And certainly the kind of reader I want tracking my work ... when I finally get stuff in print, that is!

[Tobias March]

Out of curiousity...

anyone well-versed in wikipedia? I'm thinking a Rick Olney wiki would more easily give the proper info to the masses.

I can try and help, but to be honest, the only wiki I've ever had anything to do with was this one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spellfire_%28Forgotten_Realms%29)(sad, I know), and that was for use in an RPG on the Rumbles board...

Yeah y'know I was looking for some online entertainment at work and was disappointed there was no Olney wiki. Someone with the facts get cracking :D

[Jared H.]

That's cool of you Jared. And certainly the kind of reader I want tracking my work ... when I finally get stuff in print, that is!

Well, be sure to PM me as soon as it reaches the presses, Sarah. I am very willing to put my money where my mouth is, on this.

And thanks.

[Ronée]

sadly, I dont have anything out there for people to buy, but you can join my site at www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw if you wish.

As for my repeated requests for lawyer info, Olney did send me an email saturday with one sentence enclosed. "You will get that info Monday"

As you can guess, I am still waiting.

[Jared H.]

Yeah y'know I was looking for some online entertainment at work and was disappointed there was no Olney wiki. Someone with the facts get cracking :D

The only problem I see with an Olney wiki is that he could move in and delete it all at any time.

Of course, it's almost just as easy to restore whatever he deletes.

[Blake Petit]

sadly, I dont have anything out there for people to buy, but you can join my site at www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw if you wish.

Although, as my agent, she gets 10 percent of everything of mine you buy. ;)

(Now we've just got to get a few more of those projects actually in production...)

[Sarah Beach]

sadly, I dont have anything out there for people to buy, but you can join my site at www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw if you wish.

As for my repeated requests for lawyer info, Olney did send me an email saturday with one sentence enclosed. "You will get that info Monday"

As you can guess, I am still waiting.

Old habits die hard, it appears. Even in the face of the beginning of real legal actions!

[Papergirl]

sadly, I dont have anything out there for people to buy, but you can join my site at www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw if you wish.

As for my repeated requests for lawyer info, Olney did send me an email saturday with one sentence enclosed. "You will get that info Monday"

As you can guess, I am still waiting.
Will join your site shortly! :)

As for Olney... Apparently, his "lawyer" forgot today is a holiday. :p

~Bev

[Blake Petit]

Now that I think of it, was he allegedly sending it through the mail? Did he just happen to forget today is Martin Luther King Day?

[Ronée]

oh who the hell knows with that tool.

[amboy00]

sadly, I dont have anything out there for people to buy, but you can join my site at www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw if you wish.

As for my repeated requests for lawyer info, Olney did send me an email saturday with one sentence enclosed. "You will get that info Monday"

As you can guess, I am still waiting.

Did he mention WHICH Monday?

[Papergirl]

Now that I think of it, was he allegedly sending it through the mail? Did he just happen to forget today is Martin Luther King Day?
Olney? Forget important details? Surely you MUST be mistaken... Everyone BUT him has a faulty memory, according to him. And if HE says it, it MUST be fact...


Okay... I couldn't type that without laughing. :p

~Bev

[Jared H.]

Pardon my language, but there's only ONE way to reply to that offer:

Hell.
Fucking.
NO.

~Bev

My fiance has a great way of saying it:

C.P.M.A.E.


aka: "Couldn't pay my ass enough."

Given that it's Olney, perhaps it'd be more like "Couldn't pay my ass anything."

[SUPERECWFAN1]

sadly, I dont have anything out there for people to buy, but you can join my site at www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw if you wish.

As for my repeated requests for lawyer info, Olney did send me an email saturday with one sentence enclosed. "You will get that info Monday"

As you can guess, I am still waiting.

This reminds me of that whole Kevin Smith/Prince thing. Where Prince's manager called Kevin and would go " Prince will be calling you in 25 minutes " , then call again " He'll be calling you in 10 minutes. "

I suppose by telling you that he can say he never told you which Monday. So set your watch for sometime in Jan. in the year 2015 . You'll get the e-mail I'm sure. ;)

[TCJohnson]

Although, as my agent, she gets 10 percent of everything of mine you buy. ;)

(Now we've just got to get a few more of those projects actually in production...)



Well, gee, Blake, it is not like you have anything available for sale, do you? :p

[Blake Petit]

Not enough. :D

:coughs in general direction of signature:

[amboy00]

oh who the hell knows with that tool.
Maybe his thyroid is acting up again and he can't get to a computer.

[TomStillwell]

His PC has MLK's B-Day off.

[bert]

Maybe his thyroid is acting up again and he can't get to a computer.

more like his hemmorriod is acting up.

you know, if he would just stop speaking out of his ass, it would give that time to heal.

[Jared H.]

I actually have a question for Olney:

What sort of thyroid problem do you have, exactly?

I'm asking because two people close to me suffer from Hashimotos. Another of my good friends had thyroid cancer.

I'm sure you know that even with supplements such as Levothyroxine(sp?), lack of energy and weight gain are very prevalent with both types of thyroid problems. With the former, I've been told, it is much harder on women than men(apparently, it can make a female who is going through her monthly ritual sick to the point of bedridden). All of the people mentioned earlier with these afflictions that I am close to are women.

If I follow your logic, the reason why you yourself are overweight and in your own words "somewhat disabled," and thus unable to maintain the level of fitness that you must have had during your alleged time as a Marine, then why do you demean others for obesity? I figure that a person with thyroid issues, of all people, would understand that obesity does not necessarily reflect negatively upon a person's character.

And what's more, your thyroid problems do not excuse any of online outbursts you have been displaying. I've witnessed the mood swings of others with thyroid issues, and even when they felt their worst, they were far nicer than you.

You posted some time ago that you were afraid to disclose the extent of your alleged disability for fear that others would mock it, yet you continue to belittle others, and use whatever malady you have as a shield from possible verbal backlash.

How I wish you could be more like those three great women I know.

[Magneto_X]

Why did he even go after Gail's weight*?

From the pic he showed at MMC she looked average weight, not obese or overweight----like him.


* aside from being a jerk, of course

[MacQuarrie]

I know there's a thread where people like myself can learn what books/comic to snag to help those screwed over by Olney. I'm going to grab a bunch of them. But I also want those creators who have not been screwed by Olney, but have posted in this thread speaking out against him, to please find the time to PM me the name of and where I can buy at least one of your works. Mac, Typo, Larry, Tom, that means you guys(and others).
To date, all of my work has been commercial or educational in nature. If you want my work, you'll have to buy the 1993 edition of Hooked on Phonics, a bunch of different products sold via infomercial circa 2001, SRA/McGraw-Hill textbooks, or other such items. I have no comics credits yet, as all my comics-related work was as an anonymous color-separator with Electric Crayon about 10 years ago. If you have the first Radioactive Man 80-page special, I did color on some pages in that. You could also round up business cards or yellow pages ads from a bunch of my clients.

Or just wait until some of the stuff I'm working on now gets published. There's an 8-page story I'm drawing now from a script by Tom Stillwell, based on a concept I came up with. It should be available at CAPE.

[Jared H.]

Why did he even go after Gail's weight*?

From the pic he showed at MMC she looked average weight, not obese or overweight----like him.


* aside from being a jerk, of course


As far as I can see, his reasoning might have been the following:

Firstly, Gail's character is untouchable, so any attempted insult there would fall flat.

Secondly, her talent is undeniable. The quality of her work stands up for itself, while(to my knowledge) Olney has yet to print, let alone receive any critical acclaim for, any work whatsoever.

So that left him with the only method of belittling he could think of: the physical. Of course this was shortsighted and stupid. For one, Gail looks great. Secondly, only the shallow-minded actually believe that weight says anything about a person's character. Thirdly, one only needs to look at Olney himself to realize that he's being a hypocrite.

However, like many who pretend to be in the armed services but aren't, or find themselves dishonorably discharged because they lack the discipline, Olney holds to others a ridiculous standard of "disclipline" that he himself ignores. Because he has a thyroid problem(and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here), he has an excuse for his obesity, but everybody else who does not conform to his physical preference must be a slob.

-Jared, sick internet psychoanalyst.

[JTPencils]

sadly, I dont have anything out there for people to buy, but you can join my site at www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw if you wish.

As for my repeated requests for lawyer info, Olney did send me an email saturday with one sentence enclosed. "You will get that info Monday"

As you can guess, I am still waiting.

Consider yourself lucky Ronee. I didn't even get THAT email. So if you finally do get the information (whatever Monday that might be in the turd's universe), can you pass it on?

[Alan Lynch]

This reminds me of that whole Kevin Smith/Prince thing. Where Prince's manager called Kevin and would go " Prince will be calling you in 25 minutes " , then call again " He'll be calling you in 10 minutes. "
In Kevin Smith's world that's really early though.

[MacQuarrie]

Scott, Gail's husband, is a very strong and gentle man who chooses to be gentle. He is considerate because he knows that is the harder path. He is insightful, emotionally stable and analytical enough that he makes Joe Dubois from Medium look like Homer Simpson. And if Gail is a pistol, oh good freaking lord, he is artillery.
Do not ever mistake "gentle" for "weak."

This is what gentle looks like:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0590444255.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

That's Koko and her kitten.

Gentle is power under control.

[MacQuarrie]

No, that isn't the reason at all. "Gail Simone" is a non-person, and as such while being a pen name for "Gail's" real person, meaning herself, I'm merely noting that "she" isn't real.

That is the stupidest attempt at evasion I have ever read.

[Sarah Beach]

As far as I can see, his reasoning might have been the following:

Firstly, Gail's character is untouchable, so any attempted insult there would fall flat.

Secondly, her talent is undeniable. The quality of her work stands up for itself, while(to my knowledge) Olney has yet to print, let alone receive any critical acclaim for, any work whatsoever.

So that left him with the only method of belittling he could think of: the physical. Of course this was shortsighted and stupid. For one, Gail looks great. Secondly, only the shallow-minded actually believe that weight says anything about a person's character. Thirdly, one only needs to look at Olney himself to realize that he's being a hypocrite.

However, like many who pretend to be in the armed services but aren't, or find themselves dishonorably discharged because they lack the discipline, Olney holds to others a ridiculous standard of "disclipline" that he himself ignores. Because he has a thyroid problem(and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here), he has an excuse for his obesity, but everybody else who does not conform to his physical preference must be a slob.

-Jared, sick internet psychoanalyst.

Alas, Jared, reason seems to have nothing to do with how peanut chooses to insult people.

Gail's character is indeed unimpeachable, except that he did try to smear it, by implying she'd done porn, on film.

Gail's standing as a writer is unimpeachable (hello, peanut! Have you been favorably reviewed in Entertainment Weekly?), but that didn't stop him from calling her a token and a hack.

Me, I think he belittled her weight because she's prettier than him. And she has great hair! (Why can't I get my hair to have that kind of body and life? *sniff*)

Really, he'll throw any kind of insult he can think of. But if he knows something pisses you off, he'll throw that even more. And he doesn't distinguish between "Pissed off because disgusted" and "Pissed off because it hurt". Therefore, humor and mockery (and there's been such brilliant displays of it in this thread!) are the way to deal with him. It takes the air out of his balloon. He doesn't know where to get traction with you, where he can needle you, when he can't figure out what's going to "get at" you.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Alas, Jared, reason seems to have nothing to do with how peanut chooses to insult people.

Gail's character is indeed unimpeachable, except that he did try to smear it, by implying she'd done porn, on film.

Gail's standing as a writer is unimpeachable (hello, peanut! Have you been favorably reviewed in Entertainment Weekly?), but that didn't stop him from calling her a token and a hack.

Me, I think he belittled her weight because she's prettier than him. And she has great hair! (Why can't I get my hair to have that kind of body and life? *sniff*)

Really, he'll throw any kind of insult he can think of. But if he knows something pisses you off, he'll throw that even more. And he doesn't distinguish between "Pissed off because disgusted" and "Pissed off because it hurt". Therefore, humor and mockery (and there's been such brilliant displays of it in this thread!) are the way to deal with him. It takes the air out of his balloon. He doesn't know where to get traction with you, where he can needle you, when he can't figure out what's going to "get at" you.

Interesting tactics...I prefer straight and unyielding. Olney can't face the truth. As such he crumples. And I'm sure your hair is fine. But hey, if nothing else I'm sure you have a winning smile.

As for Gail, I have huge respect for her for voicing this problem and coming forward. It takes guts. And I'm glad to see she has done this. A lot of other creators have been ripped off by this guy for years. Who knows how many more would have fallen victim if she hadn't? This guy now has a huge black mark on his reputation and based on his responses, his credibility has been shot to hell. My only question at this point, is what more can be done to him?

JP

[Sarah Beach]

About his ailments....

Back when I (in a half-demented state) offered to rewrite the front copy for TLE's website, there was this exchange regarding my invoice (sorry, missed copying the hearder of this last response)....

******
Sarah,
I don't mean to seem difficult. I don't publicize it, but I'm slightly
disabled from an injury that I got back from my time in the military. That,
coupled with my memory loss brought on by thyroid and adrenal malfunction
often give me a tough time. Thank you for the snail mail address. Your
payment will be in tomorrows mail.

On 11/27/06, scribbler@scribblerworks.us <scribbler@scribblerworks.us>
wrote:
>
> Should be in the letterhead under my name.
>
> But any way --
>
> Sarah Beach
> XXXXXXXXXXXX
> Los Angeles, CA 90027
>
>
> > Sarah,
> > I did not see a snail mail address anywhere. Did I miss it? Thanks.
> >
> > On 11/27/06, scribbler@scribblerworks.us <scribbler@scribblerworks.us>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> The invoice is the pdf attachment.
> >> Sarah Beach
*********

Now, mind you, my address WAS on the invoice, which was sent as a PDF, so even if it looked too small when one initially opened the file, you can always enlarge a PDF! Duffus. (Plus, my cell phone number was on the first email. How hard is it?)

Anyway... his reference to thyroid & adrenal problems causing memory problems prompted me to do a little research. And as far as I could tell from what I found on-line, such things are usually easily treatable with medications. Yeah. Oh, and "adrenal problems"? That's usually natural steroids flooding one's system (again, treatable with medication) -- and... "'roid rage", anyone?

But I think that would be letting him off too easily. He's got a pattern of behavior going back at least 8 years, a consistent pattern of dublicitous behavior. I've ceased to care about his "medical conditions", and have no sympathy.

[Ronée]

Consider yourself lucky Ronee. I didn't even get THAT email. So if you finally do get the information (whatever Monday that might be in the turd's universe), can you pass it on?oh yes, I will post for all to see and learn.

[MacQuarrie]

So you have a Hummer and a 'Vette? Huh. Must be nice to have that kind of money.

If he has either a Hummer or a 'Vette, I will eat my dog.

[FantomasPR]

Orca is lame, Dave's Long Box said so...
http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/

[Blake Petit]

If he has either a Hummer or a 'Vette, I will eat my dog.

Does anyone else hear Mel Blanc doing Elmer Fudd's voice there?

"I am Elmer J. Fudd, millionare. I own a mansion and a yacht..."

[Jared H.]

If he has either a Hummer or a 'Vette, I will eat my dog.

If it's true, I'll bring the barbecue sauce AND the beer.

[Papergirl]

If it's true, I'll bring the barbecue sauce AND the beer.

I'll bring the potato salad.

~Bev

[Magneto_X]

If by some miracle Rick *does* have a corvette and a hummer he won't have them anymore once Gail and co. are through with him! :D

(Same goes for the "Van of Justice".)

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'll bring the potato salad.

~Bev

I am making a bold, but absolutely true claim.

I make the world's best potato salad.

[MacQuarrie]

If he has either a Hummer or a 'Vette, I will eat my dog.

Though, truth to tell, the fact that he would even want a Hummer says volumes about him.

I know a guy who owns a Hummer. When he showed it off to me, my response was "I could have saved you over $100,000. Instead of buying a Hummer, you should have just bought a t-shirt reading "yes, I am an asshole."

I have yet to meet anyone who owns one who isn't an asshole.

[Papergirl]

I am making a bold, but absolutely true claim.

I make the world's best potato salad.

Is that a challenge? :p

~Bev

[SUPERECWFAN1]

About his ailments....

Back when I (in a half-demented state) offered to rewrite the front copy for TLE's website, there was this exchange regarding my invoice (sorry, missed copying the hearder of this last response)....



Now, mind you, my address WAS on the invoice, which was sent as a PDF, so even if it looked too small when one initially opened the file, you can always enlarge a PDF! Duffus. (Plus, my cell phone number was on the first email. How hard is it?)

Anyway... his reference to thyroid & adrenal problems causing memory problems prompted me to do a little research. And as far as I could tell from what I found on-line, such things are usually easily treatable with medications. Yeah. Oh, and "adrenal problems"? That's usually natural steroids flooding one's system (again, treatable with medication) -- and... "'roid rage", anyone?

But I think that would be letting him off too easily. He's got a pattern of behavior going back at least 8 years, a consistent pattern of dublicitous behavior. I've ceased to care about his "medical conditions", and have no sympathy.

Raven ( aka Scott Levy ) is currently battleing thyroid problems brought on by years of using steriods to handle the road. Levy has gained a lot of wieght sadly. He's taken a manager role now in TNA to try and get the wieght off and come back.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

If it's true, I'll bring the barbecue sauce AND the beer.

I'll bring the steaks and fry them. I mean I have worked by a grill for a few years ! ;)

[Matt Doc Martin]

Is that a challenge? :p

~Bev

You don't want none of this.

[Danny Donovan]

Raven ( aka Scott Levy ) is currently battleing thyroid problems brought on by years of using steriods to handle the road. Levy has gained a lot of wieght sadly. He's taken a manager role now in TNA to try and get the wieght off and come back.

You know that made me sad, when I first caught him on TNA I didn't even recognize him. He used to be so talented storywise. Plus being a comic geek helps.

I feel badly for the guy even though it was brought on by his own decisions. I hope he gets things under control, and is able to have a good program down the line he put together. His plots were always very dark and intelligently crafted and acted. Soap opera'ish yes, but miles beyond other guys out there.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Though, truth to tell, the fact that he would even want a Hummer says volumes about him.

I know a guy who owns a Hummer. When he showed it off to me, my response was "I could have saved you over $100,000. Instead of buying a Hummer, you should have just bought a t-shirt reading "yes, I am an asshole."

I have yet to meet anyone who owns one who isn't an asshole.

I have the same problem with people that own Green Jeep Cherokees.

Oddest thing.

[Papergirl]

You don't want none of this.

Two words for ya:

Bring. It.

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

Two words for ya:

Bring. It.

~Bev

Rick? :eek:

[Papergirl]

Rick? :eek:
Oh, THAT was low.

~Bev

[SUPERECWFAN1]

You know that made me sad, when I first caught him on TNA I didn't even recognize him. He used to be so talented storywise. Plus being a comic geek helps.

I feel badly for the guy even though it was brought on by his own decisions. I hope he gets things under control, and is able to have a good program down the line he put together. His plots were always very dark and intelligently crafted and acted. Soap opera'ish yes, but miles beyond other guys out there.

Raven last week and this is how freaking awesome he is. I mean the man knows how to evolve the Raven character , wore a mask and hat and had a very " Clockwork Orange " look. I thought it was the coolest damn thing he had done in awhile.

But yeah the man is a comics geek. My mom caught him on Ricki Lake years ago discussing his comics. He was a happy guy she said as he said his collection was in the 6 figures. I'm sure those WCW Paychecks helped it.

I hope he can come back. He's always done a great job as a heel in ECW/WCW/TNA. :)

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh, THAT was low.

~Bev

http://www.beverlyengel.com/images/power_of_apology-book.gif

[Papergirl]

http://www.beverlyengel.com/images/power_of_apology-book.gif

I'm not sure I should let you off that easily after that one!

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'm not sure I should let you off that easily after that one!

~Bev

http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/dog/Dog-Puppy-With-Kitten.jpg

[THEDOC]

About his ailments....

Back when I (in a half-demented state) offered to rewrite the front copy for TLE's website, there was this exchange regarding my invoice (sorry, missed copying the hearder of this last response)....

******
Sarah,
I don't mean to seem difficult. I don't publicize it, but I'm slightly
disabled from an injury that I got back from my time in the military. That,
coupled with my memory loss brought on by thyroid and adrenal malfunction
often give me a tough time. Thank you for the snail mail address. Your
payment will be in tomorrows mail.

On 11/27/06, scribbler@scribblerworks.us <scribbler@scribblerworks.us>
wrote:
>
> Should be in the letterhead under my name.
>
> But any way --
>
> Sarah Beach
> XXXXXXXXXXXX
> Los Angeles, CA 90027
>
>
> > Sarah,
> > I did not see a snail mail address anywhere. Did I miss it? Thanks.
> >
> > On 11/27/06, scribbler@scribblerworks.us <scribbler@scribblerworks.us>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> The invoice is the pdf attachment.
> >> Sarah Beach
*********

Now, mind you, my address WAS on the invoice, which was sent as a PDF, so even if it looked too small when one initially opened the file, you can always enlarge a PDF! Duffus. (Plus, my cell phone number was on the first email. How hard is it?)

Anyway... his reference to thyroid & adrenal problems causing memory problems prompted me to do a little research. And as far as I could tell from what I found on-line, such things are usually easily treatable with medications. Yeah. Oh, and "adrenal problems"? That's usually natural steroids flooding one's system (again, treatable with medication) -- and... "'roid rage", anyone?

But I think that would be letting him off too easily. He's got a pattern of behavior going back at least 8 years, a consistent pattern of dublicitous behavior. I've ceased to care about his "medical conditions", and have no sympathy.

I have a thyroid condition that aggrevates my mood swings and weight but I think "Rick" like me is just old with memory failure, of course in his case it's selective memory loss.

[Papergirl]

http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/dog/Dog-Puppy-With-Kitten.jpg

Dammit! I never should have told you my weakness for baby animals! No fair!

Oh, fine. You're forgiven. THIS time. :p

~Bev

[THEDOC]

Raven last week and this is how freaking awesome he is. I mean the man knows how to evolve the Raven character , wore a mask and hat and had a very " Clockwork Orange " look. I thought it was the coolest damn thing he had done in awhile.

But yeah the man is a comics geek. My mom caught him on Ricki Lake years ago discussing his comics. He was a happy guy she said as he said his collection was in the 6 figures. I'm sure those WCW Paychecks helped it.

I hope he can come back. He's always done a great job as a heel in ECW/WCW/TNA. :)

"quote The Raven..."Nevermore" What about me. what about "Rick"!

[AIPman1]

You don't want none of this.

I make the best Chili you'll ever have. In Season...

[Kurt Busiek]

I have the same problem with people that own Green Jeep Cherokees.

HEY!

It's a Grand Cherokee. Does that make a difference?

kdb

[Matt Doc Martin]

HEY!

It's a Grand Cherokee. Does that make a difference?

kdb

For you, yes.

[neko onna]

Just wanted to say something, real quick.

I know there's a thread where people like myself can learn what books/comic to snag to help those screwed over by Olney. I'm going to grab a bunch of them. But I also want those creators who have not been screwed by Olney, but have posted in this thread speaking out against him, to please find the time to PM me the name of and where I can buy at least one of your works. Mac, Typo, Larry, Tom, that means you guys(and others).

I have seen more standup behavior here in the last month than I've seen over the entire internet in the past several years. And, quite frankly, I want to do anything I can to support people such as yourselves.

I can't promise much, as I've gotta start saving up for my wedding and get through nursing school, but I've got more than many people do, and I figure that exposing myself to the works of people like yourselves can only be to my benefit.

I'll also do whatever I can to spread the word of your works to others.

I'm sorry that the only way I can think of to help with this debacle is to do what I do anyway: be a consumer. But please, take the time and let me know so that I can partake of your product, whatever it may be.

-Jared.
That is REALLY cool!

This thread never stops with all the love and support! Keep this thing going For..e..ver!

[Danny Donovan]

Raven last week and this is how freaking awesome he is. I mean the man knows how to evolve the Raven character , wore a mask and hat and had a very " Clockwork Orange " look. I thought it was the coolest damn thing he had done in awhile.

But yeah the man is a comics geek. My mom caught him on Ricki Lake years ago discussing his comics. He was a happy guy she said as he said his collection was in the 6 figures. I'm sure those WCW Paychecks helped it.

I hope he can come back. He's always done a great job as a heel in ECW/WCW/TNA. :)

I caught the clockwork orange thing, I liked it alot, but what I'd like to see is a long program, akin to what he had with The Sandman, where he got in trouble for the crucifixion thing...

I remember hearing a story about everywhere he and Gregory Helms travel they carry these little briefcases everywhere and how funny Gregory Helms thought that everyone looking at them thought they were off to some big meeting somewhere but the briefcases were filled with comics.

He did a nice story for Spider-mans Tangled Web about the wrestler Petey fought in his first apperance. I'd love to see him give a shot at doing more comics during his downtime. I was surprised they never let him write the WCW one Marvel published in the 90s.

I hope he gets better soon, I know the draw of TNA (for the performers) is the lax work schedule, unlike the WWE where you're on the road 300 days out of the year. I hope he uses the time to rest up and comes back as a somewhat major player. It's sad that after a certain age people don't seem to have much of a use for talent, when they could be great as teachers to the younger performers.

[MacQuarrie]

HEY!

It's a Grand Cherokee. Does that make a difference?

kdb

There's an exception to every rule.

I'm sure there's somebody who owns a Hummer and isn't an asshole. I just haven't met them yet.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I caught the clockwork orange thing, I liked it alot, but what I'd like to see is a long program, akin to what he had with The Sandman, where he got in trouble for the crucifixion thing...

On Hardcore Homecoming he said that after the Crucifixion of the Sandman , he walked backstage. Kurt Angle was going completely fuckin crazy. Claiming that it was a blaspmahy and that he was offended. Sandman looked at Raven and the 2 started laughing.

Heyman wanted Angle badly. He comes up and tells Raven he needs to apologize for the image. To go and apologize. Raven bals at 1st but Heyman and the others push him. Sandman said it best: " You honestly think Angle was offended ? The guy worked for Vince when they crucified Steve Austin 2 years later. Get real , he wouldn't dare pull that crap on Vince. "

Sandman made another fun statement was that people were yelling " Why didn't you use a Jewish Star ! " Sandman goes... " It would roll of course and roll me outta the ring. "

Levy claims he walked out and did an apology that was so unsincere that you could tell he was being an asshole.

I remember hearing a story about everywhere he and Gregory Helms travel they carry these little briefcases everywhere and how funny Gregory Helms thought that everyone looking at them thought they were off to some big meeting somewhere but the briefcases were filled with comics.

I actually heard that too. In WCW he would carry the briefcase and all. Its said Bischoff even thought he was doing some serious business. :p

He did a nice story for Spider-mans Tangled Web about the wrestler Petey fought in his first apperance. I'd love to see him give a shot at doing more comics during his downtime. I was surprised they never let him write the WCW one Marvel published in the 90s.

I have that issue. Its a shame that he never did more comic book work. You can tell he loves the business. I'd love to see him do some more. With TNA catching on more and more now with mainstream fans ( last week on RAW , we saw this) he could do more.

I hope he gets better soon, I know the draw of TNA (for the performers) is the lax work schedule, unlike the WWE where you're on the road 300 days out of the year. I hope he uses the time to rest up and comes back as a somewhat major player. It's sad that after a certain age people don't seem to have much of a use for talent, when they could be great as teachers to the younger performers.

TNA has Shane Douglas and Raven backstage. The 2 its said do help the young guys. Douglas to me ( if I was a wrestler) would be someone I'd hang around. The Franchise was and is someone who is just awesome to watch cut a promo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5klkQ8qtY

[bert]

more like his hemmorriod is acting up.

you know, if he would just stop speaking out of his ass, it would give that time to heal.



awww. . c'mon folks. . . this was *funny*



(sheesh, no wonder Howy never puts me in the Digest)

[TCJohnson]

Dammit! I never should have told you my weakness for baby animals! No fair!

Oh, fine. You're forgiven. THIS time. :p

~Bev

http://www.dailykitten.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/1165782915img_4501.jpg

[bert]

http://www.dailykitten.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/1165782915img_4501.jpg

GAHHH! An EWOK !!!!


KILL IT. . . KILL IT !!!!!!

[Matt Doc Martin]

awww. . c'mon folks. . . this was *funny*



And better than wrestling stories!

[Matt Doc Martin]

GAHHH! An EWOK !!!!


KILL IT. . . KILL IT !!!!!!

Mexican Chilli Ewoks:
After collecting half a liter of blood, cook the Ewok in its own juice. Then fry 200 grams of "Chile Chipotle" in the Ewok's blood. Use the blood to season the Ewok. Enjoy, serves for 6.

[bert]

And better than wrestling stories!

yeah. . I know what you mean.

even tho it's kind of neat that Raven is a comcs fan, and even tho CBR *is* a comics site, and even tho your username contains ECW in it. . .

it does get a bit tiring for almost every post to have a wrestling reference in it.

Kinda how DDM almost always manages to squeeze Siouxsie and the Banshees into every post he makes on the Music board.

all that said, more power to SuperECWfan -- hell, I'm sure folks get tired of my penis-centric/gay-centric posting sometimes.

but yeah, I know what you mean :)

[DungeonmasterJim]

It's possible Olney or his wife have a Hummer, but I suspect their 'vette is really a Chevette.

http://www.chevettes.com/

http://www.chevettes.com/


DM Jim

[Papergirl]

http://www.dailykitten.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/1165782915img_4501.jpg
You didn't do anything, but I forgive you, too, anyway! :D

~Bev

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Heres some clips Danny of Raven. Someones posting a lot of them on Youtube.com

Beluh gets Introduced !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKgk3wflgy4

Raven Feels Your Pain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A3JAp5YfSI

" More title time for Raven and Stevie ! "

On the Beach ( Beluh lookin oooohhh soo fiinnneee)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6lZJMyn4xE

After losing the Tag Belts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndVQrv8-648

Sick & Tired of this Living Hell !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqnKA4Y2BWM

Bloody Tommy Dreamer vowing vengence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZR5z8ToMKg

[SUPERECWFAN1]

yeah. . I know what you mean.

even tho it's kind of neat that Raven is a comcs fan, and even tho CBR *is* a comics site, and even tho your username contains ECW in it. . .

it does get a bit tiring for almost every post to have a wrestling reference in it.

Kinda how DDM almost always manages to squeeze Siouxsie and the Banshees into every post he makes on the Music board.

all that said, more power to SuperECWfan -- hell, I'm sure folks get tired of my penis-centric/gay-centric posting sometimes.

but yeah, I know what you mean :)


Well I get bored since Olneymania is obviously running on low as many take Waid's offer. The whole thing just spun out by accident when they discussed Olney's " thyroid " problems.

Besides I ain't knockin the people posting the cat pictures . :p

[Matt Doc Martin]

No.

More.