View Full Version : Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 01:43 AM
Nice Walter impersonation, Jeff, but I was talking about whether she walks free and clear.
Why do you run away from me?
Mark Waid
01-13-2007, 01:44 AM
Send her $800 dollars then, Mr. Waid. Are you still backing these lawsuits and any countersuit action?
Another staggeringly unsubtle attempt at baiting me. My original statement still stands (unlike many of yours, which were deleted by you or your agents, I could add). You're the only one who has ever used the term "countersuits," but nice try at making it sound like some sort of harassment on my part.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 01:44 AM
Now how do I respond to that?
Hmmm... okay. Let's assume that you were serious. Let's assume that I hold grudges far longer than anyone you've ever known in your entire miserable life. Let's assume that as a Marine, I'd have no problem defending myself...even with a little snow on the roof and extra log on the fire.
Thing is... you calling me names doesn't make you a brighter person. Could get your ass handed to you someday from someone that you used that ploy on, but it won't make you smarter, kmeyers.
Rick Olney, scariest muppet on the block.
Gail
Rick Olney
01-13-2007, 01:44 AM
Ah, Ricky, ye never knew me. And a couple more years under MY belt have only served to make me a little wiser to people like you.
Watching you unravel has not been satisfying to me. Actually, it's just plain pathetic. I am just thankful I never let you get to me with all your stories. Because now I know that's all they were. Fairytales.
Yes, that is for sure. Good luck with your crafting and Daredvil activities.
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 01:45 AM
As you say, "Gail" ... hope you're right. Hope it isn't a simple case of a falme war getting out of hand and burning the people trying to stage a control burn.
Far as my friends posting here. They were mostly warned off on purpose. But I don't expect you to fathom why.
Uh-huh.
Right.
Your "friends" were warned off? Really? Who are your friends? What are their names?
Oh wait, let me guess: You can't tell us? Is that right?
Give me a break.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 01:45 AM
Dude, you either have no fucking memory at all, or are the textbook example of a habitual liar. Back in the day, when I called you on bullshit racist statements and jingoistic horsecrap, you accused me of being a liar and claimed I was making things up, and then when I provided citations of matters of historical fact, you either made bizarre arguments about how the words written by historians and in documents didn't really mean what they meant, or simply dropped out of the thread, only to later spew the same bullshit arguments in some later thread.
You honestly have no fucking clue.
I've heard the claims several times of Rick making racist comments. Can we get them, so that we can have them for the woman/gay/minority-hating asshole trifecta?
Gail
Rick Olney
01-13-2007, 01:46 AM
It's pretty damned obvious to anyone who isn't you that she will.
Don't you mean "she"?
No, I've seen her in person. But I know her real name so I can't simply give up the quotes. Sorry.
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 01:47 AM
No, I've seen her in person. But I know her real name so I can't simply give up the quotes. Sorry.
Are you kidding me?!
Jeff Brady
01-13-2007, 01:47 AM
As you say, "Gail" ... hope you're right. Hope it isn't a simple case of a falme war getting out of hand and burning the people trying to stage a control burn.
Far as my friends posting here. They were mostly warned off on purpose. But I don't expect you to fathom why.
I dunno, friends rally around each other when they need help or are being treated unjustly. At least, that's what mine do. Otherwise, I wouldn't call them friends.
Yes, that is for sure. Good luck with your crafting and Daredvil activities.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-13-2007, 01:47 AM
I'm off to bed. Rick as a great poet once said : " Instant Karma " . Watch the song off youtube.com . Lennon knew exactly what it meant. You should too.
Good luck everyone and hopefully this situation will be handled. Good night people.
Rick Olney
01-13-2007, 01:47 AM
I've heard the claims several times of Rick making racist comments. Can we get them, so that we can have them for the woman/gay/minority-hating asshole trifecta?
Gail
Oh, I forgot -- "Gail" has a template as to how each and every person in America has to act.
Far as my being a racist. Chalk up another ignorant remark.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 01:48 AM
Tim,
"To give beyond reason. To care beyond hope. To love without limit. To reach, stretch, and dream in spite of your fears. These are the hallmarks of divinity - traits of the immortal - your badges of honor, and your ticket onward."
"To cheat without remorse. To fail without grace. To smell without deodorant. To cheat, steal, and lie in spite of human dignity. These are the hallmarks of the amazing Olneybeast--traits of the true deadbeat--your stains of shame, and your ticket to Loserville."
Quotes are awesome!
Gail
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 01:48 AM
I've heard the claims several times of Rick making racist comments. Can we get them, so that we can have them for the woman/gay/minority-hating asshole trifecta?
Gail
Oh no, of course he isn't that. *roll*
It's pathetic, and it is unbelievable that we need to endure this sort of crap.
Rick Olney
01-13-2007, 01:49 AM
You need to learn what it means to be a man, before you say anything else.
You're how old... 12, maybe 13 years old?
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 01:49 AM
I've heard the claims several times of Rick making racist comments. Can we get them, so that we can have them for the woman/gay/minority-hating asshole trifecta?
Gail
I'm shocked someone doesn't have them somewhere. i know there are some horrible statements by Rick in this thread he didn't get to delete. it's just a matter of locating, and collecting all of them.
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 01:50 AM
You're how old... 12, maybe 13 years old?
If I was 10 I'd be more of a man than you are..."sir."
oh yeah...wanna fight a kid (me) for charity?
Rick Olney
01-13-2007, 01:50 AM
"To cheat without remorse. To fail without grace. To smell without deodorant. To cheat, steal, and lie in spite of human dignity. These are the hallmarks of the amazing Olneybeast--traits of the true deadbeat--your stains of shame, and your ticket to Loserville."
Quotes are awesome!
Gail
You really are only a troll in disguise, huh? I'm betting that you used to hang out in the gutters over on Comicon.com to get familiar with the other trolls. Such a mouth on you...
Sarah Beach
01-13-2007, 01:51 AM
Scott, Gail's husband, is a very strong and gentle man who chooses to be gentle. He is considerate because he knows that is the harder path. He is insightful, emotionally stable and analytical enough that he makes Joe Dubois from Medium look like Homer Simpson. And if Gail is a pistol, oh good freaking lord, he is artillery.
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Anyone besides me notice that suddenly it's "those talents" and "the talent?" I don't recall Mr. Olney using that term at all before.
I've been working professionally in pretty rarified air for over 20 years and I've literally never worked with anyone who referred to human beings whose creativity and hard work ultimately put a roof over their heads and paid their bills as "talents." Not even at talent agencies. Every editor, director, AD or CEO referred to creative people by their names, or their work, and considered it a point of pride-in-workmanship that they had specific, distinct individuals, not just faceless workers from a corral.
The very biggest of the big shots, with seven-figure annual incomes and hundreds of employees, would never be so arrogant and dismissive as to use such a disempowering term as "the talent," if for no other reason than it would demean them as being unworthy of hiring name power.
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Language is a hobby of mine, as well as a beloved profession. I'm always interested in the definitions and uses of words.
I am still curious about the specific definitions of "plebe" and "troll." It'd be good to learn.
Larry, I have to throw in a comment on this. As someone who works in the film and television industry, I can say this from experience: the use of "talent" doesn't necessarily have to be derogatory. In Show Biz, "the talent" is used generally to refer to the "above the line" contributors to the product - the actors, writers, directors usually. The producers are "the suits", and everyone else is "the crew". Even more coloquially, "the talent" means the actors, the visible focus. So, you will find phrases like "take care of the talent" means "treat the actors, writers, director well". Show Biz lingo can transfer into the comic book arena: the two arenas are very similar in operation and creative concerns. But in the comic book world, "the talent" would be the writers, artists, even the letterers. Even though I haven't seen many editors in suits, their place would be similary to Hollywoods "suits".
So... Ricky boy is now trying to sound like he's very hip with how Hollywood operates, and applying it to comic books.
That said... why not just say "the creators" (since in the comic book world, that is standard for referring to writers & artists)? OOOOooooh, I know.... he still wants to try and keep some sort of control over "the creations". Look for a fight over ownership of the material to be forthcoming.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 01:52 AM
As a matter of fact... I did. It is my book of life.
Was it as incompetently written as your ridiculous magic fish story?
Gail
Rick Olney
01-13-2007, 01:53 AM
If I was 10 I'd be more of a man than you are..."sir."
oh yeah...wanna fight a kid (me) for charity?
Wow... 10 years old. Look kid, I'm sorry if I somehow disillusioned your heroes for you in everything I said. I have my favorite talents too. 'Course they're older and many are dead now.
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 01:53 AM
Was it as incompetently written as your ridiculous magic fish story?
Gail
So it was you that stole Big Fish!
Cam63
01-13-2007, 01:54 AM
Uh-huh.
Right.
Your "friends" were warned off? Really? Who are your friends? What are their names?
Oh wait, let me guess: You can't tell us? Is that right?
Give me a break.
Well, even Hitler had friends.
...Up until he had 'em hanged with piano wire.
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 01:54 AM
Wow... 10 years old. Look kid, I'm sorry if I somehow disillusioned your heroes for you in everything I said. I have my favorite talents too. 'Course they're older and many are dead now.
I never heard of your heroes, fella. I'll be happy to teach you a lesson or two though...and I aint 10 years old..but you knew that already.
TCJohnson
01-13-2007, 01:54 AM
Was it as incompetently written as your ridiculous magic fish story?
Gail
The main character is The Globe.
rexmundi666
01-13-2007, 01:54 AM
Larry, I have to throw in a comment on this. As someone who works in the film and television industry, I can say this from experience: the use of "talent" doesn't necessarily have to be derogatory. In Show Biz, "the talent" is used generally to refer to the "above the line" contributors to the product - the actors, writers, directors usually. The producers are "the suits", and everyone else is "the crew". Even more coloquially, "the talent" means the actors, the visible focus. So, you will find phrases like "take care of the talent" means "treat the actors, writers, director well". Show Biz lingo can transfer into the comic book arena: the two arenas are very similar in operation and creative concerns. But in the comic book world, "the talent" would be the writers, artists, even the letterers. Even though I haven't seen many editors in suits, their place would be similary to Hollywoods "suits".
So... Ricky boy is now trying to sound like he's very hip with how Hollywood operates, and applying it to comic books.
That said... why not just say "the creators" (since in the comic book world, that is standard for referring to writers & artists)? OOOOooooh, I know.... he still wants to try and keep some sort of control over "the creations". Look for a fight over ownership of the material to be forthcoming. A fight he wolud clearly lose.
rexmundi666
01-13-2007, 01:56 AM
Well, even Hitler had friends.
...Up until he had 'em hanged with piano wire.And we all know how Hitler ended up.
Darediva
01-13-2007, 01:56 AM
You really are only a troll in disguise, huh? I'm betting that you used to hang out in the gutters over on Comicon.com to get familiar with the other trolls. Such a mouth on you...
Gee. Is this the same guy who...nah. Never mind.
Jeff Brady
01-13-2007, 01:56 AM
No, I've seen her in person. But I know her real name so I can't simply give up the quotes. Sorry.
Oh, I forgot -- "Gail" has a template as to how each and every person in America has to act.
Far as my being a racist. Chalk up another ignorant remark.
Those last two sentences are barely English.
You're how old... 12, maybe 13 years old?
When a guy says he's half your age, and you're 53...
You really are only a troll in disguise, huh? I'm betting that you used to hang out in the gutters over on Comicon.com to get familiar with the other trolls. Such a mouth on you...
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*snip*
Your name is extremely familiar to me. Were you a frequent letter-writer to comics?
Larry Dixon
01-13-2007, 01:56 AM
Larry, I have to throw in a comment on this.
-curls a fist and shakes it- Curse you, Logic Woman!
You rock.
DocAbsurd
01-13-2007, 01:57 AM
I don't know what you believe. You are easily persuaded to be ugly. Not the person that I knew a couple years back.
That's because, like so so many of us, Darediva finally got fed up with broken promise after accusation after inane drivel from you and spoke up about the utter shit you've handed out on a regular basis.
Has nothing to do with 'persuasion', Svengali. No-one swung a watch before my eyes and snapped their fingers.
For fuck's sake, doncha get it!?! You brought this all on yourself and all by yourself. I never even used to come to Gail's boards cuz I didn't feel right doing so, considering I can't afford to buy any of her books and I didn't know what I'd talk about here.
Then I saw my name in LitG. And I sure as shitting didn't recall ever giving you permission to use it. Not that that bothered you in the slightest, Jiminy. You figured I'd be right there beside you, happy to see my name in print at last.
Except you figured wrong.
I was pissed. No, I'm still pissed. I said some horrid things about Chuck (for which I've apologized, even though no-one heard them) just to support a friend. A friend, who it turned out, was lying and twisting everything that happened anyway.
Then I scrolled down the CBR new posts and saw this thread.
Then I saw Ronee chiming in with her horror stories about you. And then more started speaking up. Had nothing to do with the power of the Almighty 'Gail'. Had everything to do with the repulsion of the despicable you.
Go back and count exactly how many people on this thread have come in here, not because they heard the telepathic command of Professor 'G', but because they read elsewhere how many others were finally calling you out. Shit, easily half the creators who are letting their frustrations see the light of day were never even members of CBR, let alone posters on YABS.
This ain't no fucking comic book. There ain't no shadowed villainy behind your tarnished reputation.
You claim to be Wiccan? Then get your head outta your ass and realize the only hatred in this thread stemmed from you and your machinations, Machiavelli.
There's some Karma for your 'book'.
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 01:57 AM
Well, even Hitler had friends.
...Up until he had 'em hanged with piano wire.
Yes, his dogs.
Rick Olney
01-13-2007, 01:57 AM
So... Ricky boy is now trying to sound like he's very hip with how Hollywood operates, and applying it to comic books.
That said... why not just say "the creators" (since in the comic book world, that is standard for referring to writers & artists)? OOOOooooh, I know.... he still wants to try and keep some sort of control over "the creations". Look for a fight over ownership of the material to be forthcoming.
Sarah, you are so transparent. I actually have been identifying the people coming onboard at my company as "talent" in written worrd and contractual descriptive since day one.
Far as a fight over ownership. You need to study more.
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 01:57 AM
I still want THUNDERDOME.
COME ON!
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 01:58 AM
Time will tell, "Ms. Simone"...
Same exact shit you said on several other boards and SURPRISE! You later RECANTED * those same threats.
You're not scary, Rick. Do I seem scared to you?
Then you misjudge me something fierce.
Never have been, never will be. You're a pasty creep with b.o. and a cheap haircut and dozens of cheated people in your wake. You have the talent of a dead badger and a reader base of none. You've destroyed not only Tightlip, but the MMC and Orca with your own words and deeds.
I think that about sums it up. Thanks for coming along!
Gail
TCJohnson
01-13-2007, 01:58 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg
Ya know, in this picture....Doesn't he kinda look like the Bizarro Mark Waid? It would explain so much!
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 01:59 AM
Sarah, you are so transparent. I actually have been identifying the people coming onboard at my company as "talent" in written worrd and contractual descriptive since day one.
Far as a fight over ownership. You need to study more.
Answer Tim, you holdover.
Why don't you just answer him?
DocAbsurd
01-13-2007, 02:00 AM
Is it possible for you to get Absurd... er? How'd the court case go in family court. Any luck?
I knew you couldn't resist!
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 02:00 AM
Sarah, you are so transparent. I actually have been identifying the people coming onboard at my company as "talent" in written worrd and contractual descriptive since day one.
Far as a fight over ownership. You need to study more.
Sadly, you are the textbook HOLLYWOOD WANNABE. You should study more. If you had anyone who was working for you, they would be defending you and their jobs, but they aren't.
Mark Waid
01-13-2007, 02:01 AM
Ya know, in this picture....Doesn't he kinda look like the Bizarro Mark Waid? It would explain so much!
Dude, I could sue YOU for that. ;)
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:01 AM
I don't know what you believe. You are easily persuaded to be ugly. Not the person that I knew a couple years back.
Jeez, you sure are sweet considering all the gaybashing jokes, and calling a woman a 'douche bag' and a 'sick bitch.'
No one's buying it, Meltdown boy.
Dance, monkey, dance.
:)
Gail
Chris N
01-13-2007, 02:02 AM
I gave you more than that. Just understand that you'll feel awful after learning I was right and you were wrong. And, no, I won't told my breath for an apology. Some here I'll answer. Others I won't. No trolls.
Am I a troll? I've always wanted to be. Like in the Hobbit.
Matt, except when the emails I'm posting are MINe and it is only MY email that carries such a warning. Also enforcible by law, I'm told. Like John Byrne's copyrighting in own every word online. A way to combat the mean and nasty ones.
Define "mean and nasty". People who say things like:
Scott, you are one of the "professionals" I'm talking about. Too long living off the comic book entertainment industry. Your fat ass propped up by your friends, blocking the way for much younger talents to make their way up. You, Isabella, Waid, Busiek... you're all old news. At least "Gail" serves a purpose. She's an honest-to-goodness token. You're just a crumb catcher, mister.
or
I'm simply now spending more money on attorney fees versus paying those creators that my company will be filing against.
and then try to delete those comments. Are those mean and nasty people?
Me... chosing to remove my posts here should be perfectly fine. ANYONE can do it. There is nothing written that says a person can't.
No law that a says a person should have integrity and only say things they can stand behind and be proud of. You're right there. You can also walk down the street flipping off anyone you want. You also don't have to be nice to anyone, actually.
You do have to pay people who do work for you. That's written somewhere.
I can tell you're going to need more Doctor's visits, Lance. Sorry to hear that you had to close your convention. Maybe next year?
Making fun of someone for having a convention cancelled? Ummmm...
Right there right alongside your mood ring. Do you still wear yours, btw?
Wow! And she went off the road! How did she see the highway lines?
I don't understand. You come back with a new account, this time saying less insulting things. Why post here if not to intelligently answer the charges made against you? Why respond with flippant comments? What does it gain you? Why not ignore the questions you don't find constructive?
I am making flippant comments in repsonse to yours, but I have nothing to gain or lose here. It seems to me this thread is determining your future. Why not be serious. Address the complaints. Answer legitimate questions. Perhaps admit to and apologise for any wrong-doings. That seems more constructive somehow.
Oh, and don't post my pictures without my permission. Thanks.
~Chris
TCJohnson
01-13-2007, 02:02 AM
Dude, I could sue YOU for that.
Finally! Nobody has been threated to sue me yet! I was feeling really left out and lonely! Thank you, man, thank you. I feel like I belong!
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:02 AM
We don't have a confirmation of scale: 1:18, 1:24, or 1:43, or whether they're die-cast or all styrene.
I love Larry.
You're the Anti-Olney.
Gail
Matt, except when the emails I'm posting are MINe and it is only MY email that carries such a warning. Also enforcible by law, I'm told. Like John Byrne's copyrighting in own every word online. A way to combat the mean and nasty ones.
Everything about this is wrong. It is "generally understood", as Matt said, that if you put notice on the bottom of your emails, you will also be keeping those exchanges private. It is not "enforceable by law", that's laughable. And John Byrne's copyright notice has done nothing to prevent his words from being spead out over the net and widely quoted, though he's been using it for years.
This is a sickness. Even though it has done and is currently doing irreparable harm to his reputation and company, even though it will surely disrupt his personal life and his family's lives, Rick cannot allow this thread to slow down or to drop from the top of the forum page. At this point I can honestly say I've never seen anything like it. It must have been about a week ago that I advised him to stop all internet activity and surely if he was able to control himself at all that's what he would have done. Especially if he's actually been contacted by press and lawyers as has been reported here.
Somebody should stop this.
Mark Waid
01-13-2007, 02:03 AM
Jeez, you sure are sweet considering all the gaybashing jokes, and calling a woman a 'douche bag' and a 'sick bitch.'
No one's buying it, Meltdown boy.
Dance, monkey, dance.
:)
Gail
Well said. Now, go to bed, Don. Get some sleep. You've had a long day.
XOXOXO,
Sancho Panza
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:05 AM
As you say, "Gail" ... hope you're right. Hope it isn't a simple case of a falme war getting out of hand and burning the people trying to stage a control burn.
Far as my friends posting here. They were mostly warned off on purpose. But I don't expect you to fathom why.
As I said, NOTHING could keep me from defending my friends, nor they me.
Oh, and there's this new thing? It's called the ENTIRE REST OF THE INTERNET.
Did you warn them not to post in your defense there, too?
I say horseshit.
No one's sticking up for you because you've screwed almost every friend you've ever had, and those you haven't are disgusted by your behavior.
Some even closer than you think, pally.
Gail
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 02:06 AM
Jeez, you sure are sweet considering all the gaybashing jokes, and calling a woman a 'douche bag' and a 'sick bitch.'
No one's buying it, Meltdown boy.
Dance, monkey, dance.
:)
Gail
If we could Olniminate one person, that would be a really cool photograph.
I'm not all that great with photoshop. I'd have to actually draw it...which would take time, and Orka might try to claim it for himself.
Rick Olney
01-13-2007, 02:07 AM
That's because, like so so many of us, Darediva finally got fed up with broken promise after accusation after inane drivel from you and spoke up about the utter shit you've handed out on a regular basis.
Darediva got what fate dealt her. There was no obligation on my part. Because if there was, she would've finished her end of the matter and she'd have concluded a transaction versus feeling shortchanged during a period of time when I was able to make the 2004 & 2005 events happen, beyond that little MMC that was mostly small press in 2005.
Has nothing to do with 'persuasion', Svengali. No-one swung a watch before my eyes and snapped their fingers.
For fuck's sake, doncha get it!?! You brought this all on yourself and all by yourself. I never even used to come to Gail's boards cuz I didn't feel right doing so, considering I can't afford to buy any of her books and I didn't know what I'd talk about here.
Quick "Gail"! Feel sorry for this poor wretch pouring out his soul here and send him a pile of your comps.
Then I saw my name in LitG. And I sure as shitting didn't recall ever giving you permission to use it. Not that that bothered you in the slightest, Jiminy. You figured I'd be right there beside you, happy to see my name in print at last.
It sure didn't hurt you, did it!
Except you figured wrong.
I was pissed. No, I'm still pissed. I said some horrid things about Chuck (for which I've apologized, even though no-one heard them) just to support a friend. A friend, who it turned out, was lying and twisting everything that happened anyway.
So you say, Tim. So you say...
Then I scrolled down the CBR new posts and saw this thread.
Then I saw Ronee chiming in with her horror stories about you. And then more started speaking up. Had nothing to do with the power of the Almighty 'Gail'. Had everything to do with the repulsion of the despicable you.
Go back and count exactly how many people on this thread have come in here, not because they heard the telepathic command of Professor 'G', but because they read elsewhere how many others were finally calling you out. Shit, easily half the creators who are letting their frustrations see the light of day were never even members of CBR, let alone posters on YABS.
Tim, do you SERIOUSLY think I give a rat's ass over how many people felt a need to come join this goose pile. Do you really think this is my first? Of course not!
This ain't no fucking comic book. There ain't no shadowed villainy behind your tarnished reputation.
You sure?
You claim to be Wiccan? Then get your head outta your ass and realize the only hatred in this thread stemmed from you and your machinations, Machiavelli.
There's some Karma for your 'book'.
You have miles to go before you sleep this day, sir.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:07 AM
Oh, I forgot -- "Gail" has a template as to how each and every person in America has to act.
Far as my being a racist. Chalk up another ignorant remark.
Rick, are you as stupid as you seem? Can you not read a sentence?
I never said you DID say racist statements. I said people have been SAYING that, and you know damn well they HAVE, for some time now, dating back to Comicon.
I'm not like you, I say what I mean, and since it's the truth, it's a snap to remember.
Gail
TCJohnson
01-13-2007, 02:08 AM
As I said, NOTHING could keep me from defending my friends, nor they me.
And the thing is, Gail, he claims you are not a real person. Well, heaven forbid you could die tomorrow and Rick Olney could live for another 50 years. The internet will still be talking about your antics affectionately while the only thing people will remember Rick Olney by his court documents.
Rick,
If you live a hundred years longer than Gail she will still have more friends, more loved ones, more integrity, more admirerers, more happy memories and, I know this will get to you the most, more comics published and more money than you will ever have.
You know that to be true.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:09 AM
You really are only a troll in disguise, huh? I'm betting that you used to hang out in the gutters over on Comicon.com to get familiar with the other trolls. Such a mouth on you...
Uh huh. Hey, called any women "sick bitches" or "douche bags" today, Mr. Rogers?
And I've never been to the gutters. That was YOUR shithole.
Til they kicked your sorry ass out for sock puppetry and crazy meltdowns.
Gail
Rick Olney
01-13-2007, 02:10 AM
No one's sticking up for you because you've screwed almost every friend you've ever had, and those you haven't are disgusted by your behavior.
Some even closer than you think, pally.
Gail
That's a heart breaker, "Gail"... now i think I'll turn in. Keep it churning butter queen.
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 02:11 AM
Darediva got what fate dealt her. There was no obligation on my part. Because if there was, she would've finished her end of the matter and she'd have concluded a transaction versus feeling shortchanged during a period of time when I was able to make the 2004 & 2005 events happen, beyond that little MMC that was mostly small press in 2005.
Quick "Gail"! Feel sorry for this poor wretch pouring out his soul here and send him a pile of your comps.
It sure didn't hurt you, did it!
So you say, Tim. So you say...
Tim, do you SERIOUSLY think I give a rat's ass over how many people felt a need to come join this goose pile. Do you really think this is my first? Of course not!
You sure?
You have miles to go before you sleep this day, sir.
Stick and move. You are the most avoiding-ist person I've ever seen. A simple question is posed to you, and you go into why the grass isn't growing in that patch right in front of you.
C'Mon,,,THUNDERDOME, dude.
THUNDERDOME
Jeff Brady
01-13-2007, 02:11 AM
Wow... 10 years old. Look kid, I'm sorry if I somehow disillusioned your heroes for you in everything I said. I have my favorite talents too. 'Course they're older and many are dead now.
Sarah, you are so transparent. I actually have been identifying the people coming onboard at my company as "talent" in written worrd and contractual descriptive since day one.
Far as a fight over ownership. You need to study more.
Darediva got what fate dealt her. There was no obligation on my part. Because if there was, she would've finished her end of the matter and she'd have concluded a transaction versus feeling shortchanged during a period of time when I was able to make the 2004 & 2005 events happen, beyond that little MMC that was mostly small press in 2005.
Quick "Gail"! Feel sorry for this poor wretch pouring out his soul here and send him a pile of your comps.
It sure didn't hurt you, did it!
So you say, Tim. So you say...
Tim, do you SERIOUSLY think I give a rat's ass over how many people felt a need to come join this goose pile. Do you really think this is my first? Of course not!
You sure?
You have miles to go before you sleep this day, sir.
Any gentle-Bruces from the magical land of Oz wanna pick up the baton? The wafting stench of bullshit is making me drowsy.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:11 AM
"Scott, Gail's husband, is a very strong and gentle man who chooses to be gentle. He is considerate because he knows that is the harder path. He is insightful, emotionally stable and analytical enough that he makes Joe Dubois from Medium look like Homer Simpson. And if Gail is a pistol, oh good freaking lord, he is artillery."
My husband is an almost unbelievably kind soul, and he has no patience for bulles of any kind. He's just a good, good hearted guy.
But he's also a former martial artist and 6'3" and has bounced more than one loudmouth inside out.
He's not a fan of bullies.
Gail
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:13 AM
Sarah, you are so transparent. I actually have been identifying the people coming onboard at my company as "talent" in written worrd and contractual descriptive since day one.
Far as a fight over ownership. You need to study more.
Oh, my god, not CONTRACTUAL DESCRIPTIVE!
hahahahahhaa!
Oh, Rick, you poor, sad, empty clown!
Gail
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:13 AM
That's a heart breaker, "Gail"... now i think I'll turn in. Keep it churning butter queen.
Use a comma, moron duke.
Gail
Jeff Brady
01-13-2007, 02:14 AM
That's a heart breaker, "Gail"... now i think I'll turn in. Keep it churning butter queen.
And the insults continue to rise, toward further meltdown.
Chris N
01-13-2007, 02:14 AM
I don't personally care about his military service. If he told one truth in the middle of so many ongoing and overlapping lies, so what? That one truth doesn't mitigate everything else.
EXACTLY as I saw it!
We're all in agreement, then. He's lied so often it doesn't matter whether or not this one statement is false. Even Rick agrees.
David O Burcham
01-13-2007, 02:15 AM
... now i think I'll turn in...
No! Don't! I was really enjoying the self-destruction. A feller can't get this quality of (legal) entertainment at 3:00 in the morning.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:15 AM
Those of you who are new to Rick's pattern, this has been stage three, Fake Reasonable, as predicted by Scott Shaw.
Hey, Rick!
You forgot your questions!
Did you pay a dime for my husband's airfare? Did you even fully pay for mine?
Did you tell Ronee you needed her help 'securing your assets' because you were leaving your happy marriage of 31 years?
Coward.
Gail
OzBat!
01-13-2007, 02:16 AM
Mr Olney, please pick a) or b): Stan Lee. Bob Kane. Jack Kirby. a) Persons or b) Non-Persons?
Jeff Brady
01-13-2007, 02:16 AM
We're all in agreement, then. He's lied so often it doesn't matter whether or not this one statement is false. Even Rick agrees.
You mean "true."
Here, you need this:
http://www.jipemania.com/coke/1940/photos/1947-COCA-COLA-BOTTLE.jpg
TCJohnson
01-13-2007, 02:16 AM
Those of you who are new to Rick's pattern, this has been stage three, Fake Reasonable, as predicted by Scott Shaw.
Nah, he is already going into meltdown.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:17 AM
"And then the fish turned into a big MAGIC fish! And it TALKED to me and was my only FRIEND!"
Yikes. Even worse than your blatant Mary Sue-ism.
Gail
TCJohnson
01-13-2007, 02:17 AM
Mr Olney, please pick a) or b): Stan Lee. Bob Kane. Jack Kirby. a) Persons or b) Non-Persons?
I wonder if he has any comics signed by these people?
Larry Dixon
01-13-2007, 02:17 AM
"churning butter queen?"
Somewhere, eyes dazzled by the fading dreamscape of mirrorball glints, Bert wakes up and looks around, thinking someone was calling his name from afar.
Mark Waid
01-13-2007, 02:17 AM
Use a comma, moron duke.
Gail
I love you, GO TO BED. You're succumbing to pure berzerker rage now. Ref, stop the fight! STOP THE FIGHT! She's turned him into hamburger and she won't stop PUNCHING! STOP THE FIGHT!
David O Burcham
01-13-2007, 02:18 AM
C'Mon,,,THUNDERDOME, dude.
THUNDERDOME
Can I be "Master" to your "Blaster"?
I don't think anyone was claiming that marriage is happy.
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 02:18 AM
I'm open for a charity Ultimate Fighting Championship thing, to give all the proceeds to people he's bled dry.
He doesn't seem very tough about it anymore, though. C'mon, Rick, it's for charity.
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 02:19 AM
Can I be "Master" to your "Blaster"?
I'll need a cornerman, but I doubt he'll play.
Larry Dixon
01-13-2007, 02:20 AM
Can I be "Master" to your "Blaster"?
I nominate this for Dirtiest One-Liner of the Thread.
OzBat!
01-13-2007, 02:20 AM
I love you, GO TO BED. You're succumbing to pure berzerker rage now. Ref, stop the fight! STOP THE FIGHT! She's turned him into hamburger and she won't stop PUNCHING! STOP THE FIGHT!Hey LOOK! Isn't that a DC waiver to allow gail to restart Deadpool for Marvel??
hides!
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:21 AM
I love you, GO TO BED. You're succumbing to pure berzerker rage now. Ref, stop the fight! STOP THE FIGHT! She's turned him into hamburger and she won't stop PUNCHING! STOP THE FIGHT!
Heh.
I'm going to bed!
Actually, I'm having a great day. Reviews for Tranquility are insane, I wrote some stuff for some Hollywood peeps, and I had a lovely dinner with my family, and tomorrow I'm off to Portland to see Kathy Griffin.
And visit the Chinese gardens and Powell's books.
I just think it's funny to see Rick's act slip.
;)
Gail, token
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:21 AM
I don't think anyone was claiming that marriage is happy.
He said his was, several times.
Gail
I'm open for a charity Ultimate Fighting Championship, to give all the proceeds to people he's bled dry.
He doesn't seem very tough about it anymore, though. C'mon, Rick, it's for charity.
"Very tough"?!
I can't believe the guy in that picture threatened to put me in the hospital (for no reason). And he knows that I live near him, and that I go to the local comic book shops. And he posted the picture.
Completely insane.
David O Burcham
01-13-2007, 02:21 AM
I'll need a cornerman, but I doubt he'll play.
Aw, man... I'd be great! Check it...
"He Rick. He make METHANE!"
rexmundi666
01-13-2007, 02:21 AM
I love you, GO TO BED. You're succumbing to pure berzerker rage now. Ref, stop the fight! STOP THE FIGHT! She's turned him into hamburger and she won't stop PUNCHING! STOP THE FIGHT!Why,Mr.Waid let him get punished some more.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:22 AM
Hey LOOK! Isn't that a DC waiver to allow gail to restart Deadpool for Marvel??
hides!
I swear to god, when I die, people are going to dig me up asking me for more Deadpool. STILL the number one request for me at cons.
REAL cons, of course I mean.
Gail
David O Burcham
01-13-2007, 02:23 AM
I nominate this for Dirtiest One-Liner of the Thread.
Posted by "Phoney Bone", no less.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:23 AM
"Very tough"?!
I can't believe the guy in that picture threatened to put me in the hospital (for no reason). And he knows that I live near him, and that I go to the local comic book shops. And he posted the picture.
Completely insane.
Omar, you know that even though I get mad at you, I still like you, right?
That said, you HAVE to admit that a steel cage grudge match:
RICK OLNEY VS. OMAR
would be a comics industry SENSATION!
;)
Gail
rexmundi666
01-13-2007, 02:24 AM
I swear to god, when I die, people are going to dig me up asking me for more Deadpool. STILL the number one request for me at cons.
REAL cons, of course I mean.
GailI wolud love to see what you colud do with the Sucide Squad.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:26 AM
I wolud love to see what you colud do with the Sucide Squad.
Dude, why accept a pale imitation?
The REAL DEAL is back, John Ostrander's doing a six issue Suicide Squad book...I just wrote him tonight to tell him how happy I am!
Gail
Darediva
01-13-2007, 02:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocAbsurd View Post
That's because, like so so many of us, Darediva finally got fed up with broken promise after accusation after inane drivel from you and spoke up about the utter shit you've handed out on a regular basis.
Quote: Rick Olney:
Darediva got what fate dealt her. There was no obligation on my part. Because if there was, she would've finished her end of the matter and she'd have concluded a transaction versus feeling shortchanged during a period of time when I was able to make the 2004 & 2005 events happen, beyond that little MMC that was mostly small press in 2005.
Ok, Rick. Now you have even pissed ME off. I have not even told people what you did and did not do *for* me. You wanted me to make an art quilt for you. You weren't satisfied to just have the small ones I normally do, you kept insisting that you wanted a bed sized Spider-Man quilt. I asked you for what I normally ask of clients: 50% down for material fees for a custom order. How many times did you tell me "two weeks", next month, whatever? I lost count. The way *I* look at this is there was no obligation on MY part to make anything for you since YOU never came up with your end of the deal.
Oh, did I mention how you PROMISED me an "all expenses paid" trip to the 2004 MMC, and when I kept pressing you for when were you going to send me the airline tickets, you were suddenly incommunicado. See, Rick here contacted me after he saw me posting on the Gene Colan board, and looked up my pictures of the Daredevil art quilts I had done. He gave me the promise that he would fly me to NY state, pay for the hotel, pay for meals, just so he could "showcase" my artwork.
Do you want me to quote you on that Rick? I still have the emails. I am not the bad guy here, buddy boy. Don't act like I am.
kmeyers
01-13-2007, 02:29 AM
Just cuz...you can't steal this..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/kmeyers/superselfportraitdisc.jpg
I guess this is how i talk shit. Show me why I should believe anything you say, Rick Olney. Convince me why I should work for you.
rexmundi666
01-13-2007, 02:29 AM
Omar, you know that even though I get mad at you, I still like you, right?
That said, you HAVE to admit that a steel cage grudge match:
RICK OLNEY VS. OMAR
would be a comics industry SENSATION!
;)
GailMake that an "I Quit" match the won't end until one of them gets beaten down enough to say "I Quit".:D
Omar, you know that even though I get mad at you, I still like you, right?
That said, you HAVE to admit that a steel cage grudge match:
RICK OLNEY VS. OMAR
would be a comics industry SENSATION!
;)
Gail
I've never considered taking an internet spat off-line, or even off-board, and I've never hinted that I might.
But then again no one has ever made a direct threat against me like he did. They've wanted to, and they've made their comments, but never like his direct threat to put me in the hospital from earlier in this thread. And they've certainly never shown me a picture of themselves, and made it known that they live in my vicinity.
I can't believe he posted that picture.
DocAbsurd
01-13-2007, 02:32 AM
Has nothing to do with 'persuasion', Svengali. No-one swung a watch before my eyes and snapped their fingers.
For fuck's sake, doncha get it!?! You brought this all on yourself and all by yourself. I never even used to come to Gail's boards cuz I didn't feel right doing so, considering I can't afford to buy any of her books and I didn't know what I'd talk about here.
Quick "Gail"! Feel sorry for this poor wretch pouring out his soul here and send him a pile of your comps.
See, here's the difference -- okay, one of the differences between you and me. I played it honest. I gave my exact reason for not initially feeling comfortable in visiting YABS before. You think I'm fishing for sympathy? That's how you deal with shit; you claim the worst in everyone who turns 'against' you. Gives you some sort of validation, because, gee whiz, why else would they not like the most revered man near comics?
I'm not asking for hand-outs, nor am I shirking my responsibility. You owe me money, Olney. I never asked you for help in anything. I just asked that you pay what you been shirking for years. You won't do that. Instead, you threaten me with litigation, goad me into fights, taunt my personal life.
How many comps you gotten in the name of 'reviews' you never finished, Olney? I have yet to ask one person here for a pile of comics. I don't expect anyone to pay me for my friendship.
And there's another of our differences.
Then I saw my name in LitG. And I sure as shitting didn't recall ever giving you permission to use it. Not that that bothered you in the slightest, Jiminy. You figured I'd be right there beside you, happy to see my name in print at last.
It sure didn't hurt you, did it!
You think I want to be known for being the biggest patsy you've ever had? You think I want to be infamous for almost being dragged into another of your innumerable fracases? Maybe you get your jollies from being the self-declared 'Most Hated Man Near Comics', but I'd rather go to my reward with family and friends remembering me as the 'guy who drew silly stories'. And I'd much rather earn that notoriety through my talents and amassing a body of work, rather than claiming 'boo-hoo, everyone despises me'.
What absolutely galls me is that you think me now being recognized somehow makes up for the fact that you fucked with my life. I had my reasons for wanting to be 'DocAbsurd' online, Olney. Same reason I call my children 'Thing 1 and Thing 2'.
Whatever. I promised myself I wasn't gonna lose my temper. I know you're somehow hoping I'll have an Olney-esque meltdown so you can 'make' your imaginary case against me.
Dunno why. You still owe me $450, Skinflint.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:33 AM
Omar, relax, I was kidding.
I know you're too smart for such nonsense. That's Rick's game, all day long, empty threats.
But come on, the TICKET SALES!
RICK OLNEY VS. OMAR!
Gail
rexmundi666
01-13-2007, 02:34 AM
Dude, why accept a pale imitation?
The REAL DEAL is back, John Ostrander's doing a six issue Suicide Squad book...I just wrote him tonight to tell him how happy I am!
GailIm picking up the entire mini!:D dispite some grumbling about how cynical a idea the Sqaud is in some parts of the comic world.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 02:35 AM
So what's your question(s)?
Is it true you can kill a canary at 50 paces ?
( Hey, I finally caught up with Wiccie's first return post )
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocAbsurd View Post
That's because, like so so many of us, Darediva finally got fed up with broken promise after accusation after inane drivel from you and spoke up about the utter shit you've handed out on a regular basis.
Ok, Rick. Now you have even pissed ME off. I have not even told people what you did and did not do *for* me. You wanted me to make an art quilt for you. You weren't satisfied to just have the small ones I normally do, you kept insisting that you wanted a bed sized Spider-Man quilt. I asked you for what I normally ask of clients: 50% down for material fees for a custom order. How many times did you tell me "two weeks", next month, whatever? I lost count. The way *I* look at this is there was no obligation on MY part to make anything for you since YOU never came up with your end of the deal.
Oh, did I mention how you PROMISED me an "all expenses paid" trip to the 2004 MMC, and when I kept pressing you for when were you going to send me the airline tickets, you were suddenly incommunicado. See, Rick here contacted me after he saw me posting on the Gene Colan board, and looked up my pictures of the Daredevil art quilts I had done. He gave me the promise that he would fly me to NY state, pay for the hotel, pay for meals, just so he could "showcase" my artwork.
Do you want me to quote you on that Rick? I still have the emails. I am not the bad guy here, buddy boy. Don't act like I am.
At this point,Dr. DOOM wouldn't want to associate with Rick.
But these quilts sound awesome...do you have a link?
Gail
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 02:36 AM
I'm for a bit of sleep.
Night all!
Talk about fun stuff!
Gail
Darediva
01-13-2007, 02:38 AM
At this point,Dr. DOOM wouldn't want to associate with Rick.
But these quilts sound awesome...do you have a link?
Gail
Yes, ma'am, I do. http://www.woodsidecountrystore.com/TheDaredevilProject.html
DocAbsurd
01-13-2007, 02:38 AM
OMG, Diva! I didn't realize that was you! I haven't heard from you in ages!
Shit, I didn't know he sucked you down the primrose path. You just suddenly disappeared.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 02:39 AM
Omar, relax, I was kidding.
I know you're too smart for such nonsense. That's Rick's game, all day long, empty threats.
But come on, the TICKET SALES!
RICK OLNEY VS. OMAR!
Gail
My money's on Omar unless his nose aint blocked.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 02:42 AM
I'm for a bit of sleep.
Night all!
Talk about fun stuff!
Gail
Hmmm... Olney's wankiness will do for now.
Nighty nite !
DocAbsurd
01-13-2007, 02:43 AM
Fuckit, he got to me. Dammitalltohell. And I was having such fun.
But that sunnuvabitch knows exactly what to say to piss me off. And I let him get to me.
Fuckit, I'm going to bed.
G'nite, everyone.
Darediva
01-13-2007, 02:44 AM
OMG, Diva! I didn't realize that was you! I haven't heard from you in ages!
Shit, I didn't know he sucked you down the primrose path. You just suddenly disappeared.
Hiya, Doc! I'm still around. I've been off the radar for a bit in some circles, but still here. :evilsmile
Jeff Brady
01-13-2007, 02:47 AM
Yes, ma'am, I do. http://www.woodsidecountrystore.com/TheDaredevilProject.html
Holy cow! That's amazing!
Fuckit, he got to me. Dammitalltohell. And I was having such fun.
But that sunnuvabitch knows exactly what to say to piss me off. And I let him get to me.
Fuckit, I'm going to bed.
G'nite, everyone.
G'nite, Doc. Hope you feel better in the morning.
Time for me to turn in, too.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 02:49 AM
Fuckit, he got to me. Dammitalltohell. And I was having such fun.
But that sunnuvabitch knows exactly what to say to piss me off. And I let him get to me.
Fuckit, I'm going to bed.
G'nite, everyone.
Dream of kittens beating the crap outta ninjas.
'Night, Doc.
He's a veteran and a grandfather who is plainly... troubled, to say the least. Would the loss of my (nominal, to say the least at this point) anonymity really be worth reporting his threat to our local state police barricks? It's something I've been considering. But I've decided against it, especially after seeing that he's a fat, slovenly (can't believe he wore that shirt and baseball cap to the con he was organizing) bitch.
See, I'm a hypocrite now because obviously I'm continuing the thread even though I know that it's ugly and pointless and he's getting exactly what he thinks he wants with all this attention. When I got home and checked into this thread and I saw how many new pages there were, I knew he must have come back because things had been slowing down. But I thought that must be impossible, because he would never be... whatever this is... enough to come back into this virtual lynching. It's sad and sick at this point.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 02:50 AM
Holy cow! That's amazing!
G'nite, Doc. Hope you feel better in the morning.
Time for me to turn in, too.
'Night to you, too.
rexmundi666
01-13-2007, 02:55 AM
I find this thread to be fascinating just what depths will one "man" will go to cover his own ass.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 02:55 AM
Awww, and here I was being civil and simply quoting your posts so you can't delete them again!
~Bev
You just can't be trusted, Ricky.
Good work, Bev'. :)
rexmundi666
01-13-2007, 02:58 AM
He's a veteran and a grandfather who is plainly... troubled, to say the least. Would the loss of my (nominal, to say the least at this point) anonymity really be worth reporting his threat to our local state police barricks? It's something I've been considering. But I've decided against it, especially after seeing that he's a fat, slovenly (can't believe he wore that shirt and baseball cap to the con he was organizing) bitch.
See, I'm a hypocrite now because obviously I'm continuing the thread even though I know that it's ugly and pointless and he's getting exactly what he thinks he wants with all this attention. When I got home and checked into this thread and I saw how many new pages there were, I knew he must have come back because things had been slowing down. But I thought that must be impossible, because he would never be... whatever this is... enough to come back into this virtual lynching. It's sad and sick at this point.He's going down in flames and the saddest part is he's going to take his family and anyone else with him.
DarrenCawsey
01-13-2007, 02:58 AM
I've heard the claims several times of Rick making racist comments. Can we get them, so that we can have them for the woman/gay/minority-hating asshole trifecta?
Gail
Well I was pretty taken with this one :(
---------------------------
Chris N
01-13-2007, 03:02 AM
And this involves you how?
Maybe he's a person who feels a sense of indignation when others are harmed by someone malicious. Maybe if everyone made it their business to look after people in need, and see some measure of justice in this world.
Really? REALLY? That fucking stampede you hear over the horizon is posters rushing to re-post your flagrant bragging that, golly, you WOULD pay guys, but you're instead WILLFULLY using that money to sue OTHER guys.
Mark Waid, you are so my hero. I'm right now going to reread Kingdom Come, Tower of Babel, a bunch of Flash, Empire, oh and Detective Comics annual 2, where we see a young Bruce learning to be a detective, I love that comic.
Two quotes in my signature seem to be indicative of said bragging.
I agree. In fact, emails to those talents will begin moving to them tomorrow.
This thread simply complicated matters right down to your very generous offer to cover any lawsuits sent my way, which I'm also figuring covered countersuits. Ever know a lawyer to not want to wait to see it all take shape first?
But it'll all work out.
I too, hope that all will work out and that justice will be served.
He's not even a good troll; it's completely artless. Lots of people can say exactly what it takes to piss people off. Doing that while maintaining a defensible, internally consistant position and being more polite and agreeable than your detractors while never avoiding direct questions and making people of average or above average intelligence look foolish - well, I'm not saying anyone should ever troll (I know I certainly wouldn't) but at least there'd be something to that.
This is just nonsense, and if he hadn't been willing to destroy his name and reputation, but had come on as an anonymous user who didn't owe peple money, no one would waste their time on him.
I want to emphasize that, because I think I know what's driving him now:
You haven't earned this attention by being interesting or creative, Olney. You got here because people feel like you stole money from them. Whether they're right or wrong, you should stop all online activities immediately. You must realize that, on some level, you're hurting yourself and your family by continuing this.
J. Morgan (Bat) Neal
01-13-2007, 03:11 AM
No, I've seen her in person. But I know her real name so I can't simply give up the quotes. Sorry.
So do you use quotes when you type Stan Lee's name? Or Jack Kirby's? Or Mark Twain's?
Do you understand the concept of a pen name? If so then what is the issue?
I know there are many more important issues at play here but this just puzzles me to no end and I would like to at least attempt to understand where your are coming from on this.
kingdom2000
01-13-2007, 03:22 AM
Whee Rick is back. How comes he rates a handle name with a space in it? How does one do that anyway?
Its interesting to read through his posts cause you can tell when someone else is editing for him (wife perhaps?). Not his lawyer though as no lawyer would allow his client to communicate even a hello about any impending litigation.
I have noticed that other then continuing to defend himself against Gail's $100/air fare/car ride stuff, he really hasn't responded to anything else or provided any new information. The dodging much be a pain in the rear to maintain. Its kind of exhausting to read.
As for his so-called emails and promises, they don't mean crap. He seems to pass those out like a fat man passes farts after a can of beans. Its the actions that matter and until someone gets an actual rear and despositable check and can support any claim of a real payment, its all just meaningless words that everyone has heard from him for months and in some cases years.
Basically for all his edited posts (hat tip to whoever doing it as can't be an easy job) its all amounted to nothing. Makes for an interesting thread but nothing of consequence.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 03:28 AM
If you're looking for an apology. Forget it. I did nothing to most of you people.
You dishonoured friends of mine.
I take that personally.
Chris N
01-13-2007, 03:28 AM
I only look like a weasel because you're conditioned after so many posts to be wanting a weasel.
By your own posts, you mean?
I hate you, Jeffrey. I was gonna say exactly that. And I felt so clever too...
You're a done deal, Matt. Matter of time.
I love it when you tell people they're finished. The irony is just so sweet.
Chris N
01-13-2007, 03:39 AM
Actually, I have no idea who will be contacted. I'm just sure that some will.
Call me. I can attest to your character in court.
Umm... I donno. All I've heard from "Gail" is the $100 dollars repeated over again. Certtainly, she could've brought a civil complaint if more money was involved. And, as the matter took place in 2003 ... I'm not sure why she waited so long to make a matter of fact (or suposid fact) out of it. Far as your name calling. Feh. I've been called worse. :rolleyes:
Not sure what a suposid fact is. But I thought it was clear why she waited so long. I don't see why you don't get it.
She didn't care that much. It's only $100, which isn't worth having to talk to you for.
She didn't bring this up because she still cares what happend over 3 years ago. She brought it up because you were exhibiting the exact same behaviour, and screwing other people over, then trying to lie about it. So she told her story as an example of how what you're accused of now has happened before.
Tales of the Spooky, Doc Absurd's $450, Ronee, Gail's complaints of years ago... this is a pattern. You call them all liars, fine. Even if we believe you, you've admitted to what is in my signature, that you will not pay anyone because you're too busy sueing people you haven't paid. Your words. Yours. You posted on my myspace that I was a "simple minded sonuvabitch" for believing what others wrote about you. I. DON'T. NEED. TO. BELIEVE. THEM. I JUST HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOU TO FORM A CHARACTER JUDGMENT. The judgment is this: you are not a good person.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 03:43 AM
Why does he keep putting Gail's name in quotes?
He's a dickhead, Drew.
Chris N
01-13-2007, 03:47 AM
Nor do I.
Everyone that worked on TOTS #1 will get paid. My pledge, just like Val Staples. No matter how long it takes! No matter what I have to do to accomplish it!
What you have to do is mail checks. You can do it tonight.
And what about Doc Absurd and his columns?
You admit you owe him money. You claim it's $300, not $450, but then you admit to not being sure about that. Here, this is what you said:
I actually owe Tim $300 dollars. That was for column writing that he did in support of my website two years back.
followed by:
No, it is actually only $300 dollars and then that may even be wrong.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 03:56 AM
Mr. Waid,
The matter is being handled as any legal matter would be handled. As far as me making apology, that'll come to those talents at the time when they're paid for their work on the book in question. Believe it or not, I am more interested in paying talent versus taking anyone into a court situation. But I'm not making that decision either. It is based on what has transpired, realistically, and to what degree one talent doesn't care to settle any way BUT a courtroom.
I think Custer had a better day on 25th June, 1876 than the ones you've got ahead of you in court, Olney.
We're all looking foward to it.
Chris N
01-13-2007, 03:56 AM
Grow up and knock off the name calling or I'll report you to a moderator. :rolleyes:
I can't believe the childishness displayed by some. Like the guy who said:
Oh, Scott... I want to be just like you when I grow up and out.
or
She a BIG girl, so she realizes where that puts her.
or
A good writer wouldn't only be writing funny books! lol
or
If you're a Canadian chick with a fetish for robot alien chicks go back to stripping.
You're absolutely right. The childish insults being hurdled here... I'm appalled. I'll try to figure out who said all of the above so I can report it to a moderator.
The law is a funny thing, Jeffrey.
Actually, it's a serious thing. It's the way the law seems to work in the head of a certain somebody that's hysterical.
So guilty until proven guilty, right? I hope you vote!
No, you'll have your day in court. Now your just having your character judged by people reading what you have to say. That's actually okay.
See... and we differ in age too. Try getting your grandfather to believe the shit you peddle. But, non-the-less, I have always spoken highly of you. Just goes to show...
Most people speak highly of Jeffrey. Whether or not what he peddles is shit, he always backs up his opinions intelligently and comports himself with honor and dignity. Like many people on this site, and in this world. He believes in everything he says and never feels the need to suddenly delete everything he's written.
Guess who I'm attempting to contrast him with?
Cam63
01-13-2007, 04:00 AM
Take a MUCH closer look at that picture. You can tell Gail, like Heidi, is not looking at you, but at what's going on off picture. And Gail already mentioned there were 2 girls in costumes there, that we cannot see.
Gail's husband is looking at you with daggers though.....
I picked that up too.
Maybe he's wishing there wasn't so many witnesses around.
Chris N
01-13-2007, 04:08 AM
Josh,
That is the part that a few of you don't understand. The matter with the talent is being sorted out legally.
The matter with Joanne is done. Nothing to sort out. Neither with Colleen Doran. Blake will be decided by my attorney within his 30 day time. Chuck and I will be in court, most likely. Ronee is on her own call to the matter. Mike Bullock has probably cross the line too. As with Wil, sadly. "Gail Simone" only matters if my attorney says so. She's got the whole weight of this thread on her shoulders. It is her forum and she allowed the things to be said on both sides. With that all said, I'm going to bed. Somebody make sure Bev gets those last few remaarks of mine quoted. Thanks.
Long as we're clear, you've mentioned a lot of people and admitted there are or have been payment issues with them. This is where people begin to doubt you.
I watched Lennon in his Beatles appearance here stateside on the ED Sullivan Show. I know all about karma, instant and otherwise. Karma doesn't effect everyone.
Nothing effects anyone, because it's not a verb. Something will affect you. Call it karma, call it lawsuits, call it damage to reputation done by your own behaviour, whatever. You will be affected.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 04:10 AM
As I said, my husband realized something was fishy when Rick lied about paying in advance, then paying when I got there. But he was utterly disgusted by Rick's obnoxious brush-off to the costumed girls. He has no patience for arrogance, and never again trusted a word Rick said.
He's awesome. And a lot less gullible than me.
Gail
You'd do well to keep him, then. :)
Cam63
01-13-2007, 04:13 AM
When you LIE right at me, and refuse to answer simple questions, you're still a creep, Rick. Did no one ever tell you that?
Did you pay ONE DIME towards my husband's airfare, Mr. Big Wheel?
Answer that.
Did you?
Gail
Were you surprised when a baggage handler offered to strap him to the wing ?
Chris N
01-13-2007, 04:15 AM
Careful, I've been nice to you... :rolleyes: Isn't fun to make fun of a person's religion. :p
Being nice to someone includes paying them money you owe. The bit is not a sentence. I can't make sense out of it.
I am Wiccan. A practicing solitary for a long time. I know of what my craft
describes as what you think of as karma. It is close, but not the same. Least wise not in my book.
Yeah, your book on being a wiccan. How do you respond to the comments made earlier about what this religion entails? Like, that a good wiccan would, y'know, pay people.
Oh, I forgot to say this before:
Ronee mentioned that Rick *says* he's Wiccan. I'd like to state, being a Pagan with Wiccan leanings, that his behavior is not only against commonly accepted forms such as the Wiccan Rede and Law of Three, but also in no way represents Wicca in general.
Definitions:
Wiccan Rede: An ye harm none, do as ye will. Clearly his behavior has harmed a lot of people.
Law of Three: Basically, the old "What goes around, comes around," but with the idea that whatever you put out there, good or bad, will eventually return to you in some form at thrice the strength you originated.
As to the latter... Olney is waaay in over his head on that one. Wow.
First, thank you for respecting our beliefs :)
I'm a Gardnerian Wiccan, so reading that he calls himself a Pagan gave me a shiver. I did some searching and I've found posts he's made within the last 2 years where he calls himself, "A good Christian" when talking to Christians.
I'm therefore doubtful in what he says and even if he does self identify as a Pagan, he's not a good representative of what we believe. To put it this way, Reek is as much a Pagan as Fred Phelps is a Christian.
Danny Donovan
01-13-2007, 04:20 AM
Well.
I've been in contact with 2 more former-colleagues of Moby Prick, one who was another ill-fated columnist (and is still owed money) and one who was a former friend.
Danny Donovan started his articles around the same time I did, for the same payment arrangement and the same excuses. He's since written the Blubbery-One off and gone on to do significantly better things since his disassociation.
Sam Catalino's run-ins with Moby were legendary on the MMC forums. He told Moby off in 50 words or less.
Neither have anything positive to add.
I'm still hoping I hear from the last of us columnists. May do a bit of hunting this morning.
As a side-note, I have heard Mrs Olney on the phone when she accidentally picked up the other line. She exists. I also can't help but think she has no clue as to what he's been doing to people; she never once sat in on 'business' discussions, and I never once heard him say he'd talk things over with her when it came to finances. I discuss everything with Daphne, even if it's just to get her feedback; if they've been married that long, I'd have to believe he'd do the same to some extent. I'm willing to bet he made everything sound totally legit to her, covering up his 'indiscretions' and passing the blame.
My best guess? She's as much a victim as we are.
One does not do these sorta things accidentally. He's sly, but this goes beyond 'slick'. He had to have planned all this out, had the contingencies ready, done his own legal 'research'. I have yet to read from anyone, from those in the business to those with legal savvy, who say that NDAs cover what he believes.
The scary thought is, if he put this much effort into a solid business plan instead of such treachery, he might actually have a publishing chance.
. . .
Yeah, I almost got that out with a straight face.
Doc 'Et Tu, Olney?' Absurd
Oh boy. >_< And here I was hoping to avoid being put in this mess. Hopefully Gail doesn't mind me posting here, I know we haven't had the best of times over at X-Fan, but I hope I've grown some since my late teens/early 20s getting myself in over my head --
And just so you know I am sorry for my attitude in the past, I trusted the wrong people and looked up to the wrong people... And well less said the better hopefully.
While I worked for Rick back with Tim, and Lance and them during my "finding myself phase" I was promised stuff same as anyone. And yes, Rick and I have had our discussions, some of them not pleasant, but he has sense apologised for those things and I hold no grudges over some of the darker times.
The money was important to me, when my step-father was diagnosed with Cancer, and I was struggling to make the medical payments trying to get every little bit I could from those that owed me stuff, when he passed this past March, it became less important. Focusing more on getting back to being in the forefront of things.
I'm not sure what what good this thread will do, aside from entertaining people who I guess are looking for a distraction. Like I said to Rick, it's like a Trump vs Rosie thing, all it is, is a sideshow that keeps focus off important matters.
Would I like to be paid for my columns and the eBay things? Sure. The main reason I needed it has since passed, but hell I could do with a PS3, lol. But I'm not going to obsess about it. Sometimes you have to let things go and focus on the future.
Tim, I'm going to send you some names to talk to about doing your toy column, I think you'd be better off focusing on the future than being mired in the past and in bad feelings.
Hope everyone makes it out of the "EXTRA"-esque drama better than they went in, even if it's just a matter of clensing yourself of pent up aggressions.
*returns back to Zen state*
Cam63
01-13-2007, 04:25 AM
I am going to love watching you swing.
Am I the only hoping there'll be an Austen Powers style musical number involved on the day he gets the guilty verdict ?
Cam63
01-13-2007, 04:32 AM
No, "Gail" that is the desired effect that you wanted and set out for. Now it is a easier matter to prove your hand in it all. All over $100 dollars that you claim you were owed from 2003 that you told me you didn't want. Have you even talked to a real attorney about what you've done here on the legal side? You should.
You do realise I'm not Gail ?
Chris N
01-13-2007, 04:49 AM
As a matter of fact... I did. It is my book of life.
Oh good. Since the "comic publishing" scam is going under, you can market this book as a religion. Worked well for Hubbard. Best with that.
Oh, I know Adam Hughes. I'm just not a Wonder Woman reader. My issues go back a bunch of years. Sorry.
Yeah, your issues go back a bunch of years, alright.
Quoted for the first bit of honesty from his keyboard.
HAHAHA, glad you guys were on top of that. Too funny.
Finally! Nobody has been threated to sue me yet! I was feeling really left out and lonely! Thank you, man, thank you. I feel like I belong!
Rick's threats were directed to everyone, including you.
I thought it might be fun to see old posts of Rick's and what he was like before people were attacking him.
I am Rick Olney, founder and director of ...
[EDITED, BUT HE JUST BRAGS ABOUT HIMSELF FOR SEVERAL PARAGRAPHS]
I had Mr. & Mrs. Gail Simone at my last MMC too!
Apparently, knowing Gail is one of his selling points! Note he didn't use to need quotes back then.
Hi,
I'm Rick. Umm... I think I created many of you. :D Well, okay... I'm actually the online personna of Rick Olney, founder and director of the comics fandom advocacy group infamously known as "ORCA" ... and I have a four year old convention too, that I created and manage all.by.myself.
I'm not really annoying, ignorant, or a troll. So please ignore anyone that would hint or suggest such a thing. Frankly, I think it is a tad funny (in a sad, strange way) that I had thousands of posts as "Cynergy54" and decided to use my old screen name here of "orcafresh" (a name I'm known by elsewhere on the big I) and upon making a post to announce that I was starting over -- the boards go kaput. If I didn't know Jonah better, I'd swear that he and Tom had teamed up to try and make me paranoid. Oh! And did I mention that I'm really not paranoid either? Ummm... 'cause I'm not. :)
Wow, was I ever surprised. That George Bush can do anything! :eek: We live in a scary world...
So, read that closely. First note how well he seems to think he's known on the big I. His comment about Jonah was clearly a joke, one I don't get. Why would him changing his screen name make them want to collapse the board? He seems to think he and Jonah are friends, even though he's hinted that he'd like to sue CBR for this thread recently. And he defends that he's not annoying or a troll. Which suggests we're not the first to call him that. A pattern to his behaviour, perhaps...
Hey, I posted earlier in this thread and that post is now gone. Should I like contact the Moderator and have him do an exhaustive search, or is this just another example of selective allowance of opinion?
Awww.... more evidence of the conspiracy against poor, Ricky. Clearly the moderators are deleting his posts because of his opinions, not the offensive way he states them.
BlairH, Scotland eh?
I am consistently amazed at foreign intervention with opinion and conjecture regarding problems in America. Buy a ticket and move here! Then vote!
Theeeeeeeen... bitch your heart out, bro. :D
Damned foriners! Having opinyons about my cuntry when they cant even learn themselves the lengwige.
Charles RB
01-13-2007, 05:03 AM
What the hell does he mean by that?
Gail downloaded her husband off Kazaa instead of paying for him.
So what's your question(s)?
Why did you actually admit that you owned Ronee money and she could do something to get it, but that you were going to deliberately make her unable to do so because she was telling people you hadn't paid her, something of extremely dodgy and possible no legality?
Cam63
01-13-2007, 05:04 AM
Two-fer! Heystacy can be the court artist too!
I wonder if he'd include " stench lines " when Olney takes the stand ?
Chris N
01-13-2007, 05:06 AM
Why did you actually admit that you owned Ronee money and she could do something to get it, but that you were going to deliberately make her unable to do so because she was telling people you hadn't paid her, something of extremely dodgy and possible no legality?
Yeah, I don't think Rick needs to answer that.
Anything else would involve answering questions directly and not telling lies so tangled they end up contradicting each other. So, if anything, he's consistent.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 05:13 AM
Really, as terrible as the basis for this thread is (people getting screwed over by a fucking asshole), I have laughed more reading it than anything I can remember.
People like Matt, Cam, Ms. Simone herself, Doc, Mr. Waid, Mr. Busiek, Mr Shaw!, Mr. Dixon, Ms. Beach, Colleen, and all the rest ... have kept this, while serious and intense, still lively and very funny.
Thanks to everyone.
I'm honoured you'd put my name along with the others mentioned in your post, Di-fan.
Thanks. :)
Cam63
01-13-2007, 05:15 AM
Thought you were going to bed?
Olney sleeps at attention.
Charles RB
01-13-2007, 05:16 AM
If there's one thing I truly believe, it is that any story, no matter how good, can be made better by the addition of either pirates or dinosaurs.
How about pirates fighting dinosaurs armed with siege weaponry? (http://www.2000adreview.co.uk/reviews/2006/2000ad_1491_review.shtml)
Cam63
01-13-2007, 05:17 AM
....drift...
Yep, that's me with Cheyenne, my Great Horned Owl.
I practice falconry, the ancient art of throwing angry pointy birds at things.
I thought it was done with catapults.
OzBat!
01-13-2007, 05:27 AM
Nah, it's all in the wrist action.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 05:35 AM
I think we could make an AWESOME giant robot. FORM BLAZING EDITING PEN!
Or maybe the ALL-DIXON SQUAD would be more of a Power Rangers team thing. Except we'd want to operate our giant mecha from reallllly comfy lounge chairs.
I could be the right hand with the strength to pick up a beer truck.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 05:36 AM
Nah, it's all in the wrist action.
How about one of those gadgets that tosses clay pigeons ?
Cam63
01-13-2007, 05:38 AM
How is stiffing a guy for $450 for 2 years being nice?
Well, in the olden days, some robbers were known to apologise to their victims before leaving.
OzBat!
01-13-2007, 05:43 AM
Well, in the olden days, some robbers were known to apologise to their victims before leaving.Robin Hood he aint.
PatrickG
01-13-2007, 06:09 AM
Again Rick, you're ignoring the fact that most professional writers and artists are more than accommodating in putting on happy faces when posing for pictures. They do this for their fans. There is absolutely no correlation between posing for a photo with a smile, to being personally happy with the way you ran your convention.
http://show.imagehosting.us/show/1878865/0/nouser_1878/T0_-1_1878865.jpg
Does this mean Grant Morrison isn't planning to take over the world with me? Damn. Everyone... Post your convention photos. I'm not sure what it proves but it means something to Rick...
Stacy, you are so right. And you may be called to provide a deposition to what you saw and watched unfold here. Just so you know.
Please, include me.
I'll also contribute $5 to Mr. Waid's fund if it gets me sued as well.
I doubt you remember me, Mark, but I offered to buy you a coffee beverage at a coffee bar once when you were with Joe Casey and a date. I figure this is a worthwhile substitute. I'd like to see him try to sue people for helping other people out financially.
Rick -- Do you think you could file charges that will get my extradited? I've always wanted to see New York.
"Gail Simone" only matters if my attorney says so. She's got the whole weight of this thread on her shoulders. It is her forum and she allowed the things to be said on both sides.
Your words are her fault because she let you say them? That's what the "both sides" bit implies.
I watched Lennon in his Beatles appearance here stateside on the ED Sullivan Show. I know all about karma, instant and otherwise. Karma doesn't effect everyone.
...
I am Wiccan. A practicing solitary for a long time. I know of what my craft
describes as what you think of as karma. It is close, but not the same. Least wise not in my book.
The posting history makes you look more like a Wikin.
But I want to hear your beliefs because they may explain your actions. They're not relevant to the legal side of this but this is a message board and not a court.
Ya know, in this picture....Doesn't he kinda look like the Bizarro Mark Waid? It would explain so much!
He looks to me like someone pretending to be John Byrne. Does that count?
Hm. Maybe Waid in a John Byrne costume with a pillow shoved up his shirt...
If only this whole thing had a Scooby Doo ending.
Cam63
01-13-2007, 06:10 AM
Are you kidding me? Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME? You were actually doing so well before your lawyer had to go to bed and left you alone at the keyboard. Are you seriously back to threatening everyone on this message board with legal action? Have you really sunk that low...again?
You'd think he'd take off the lead boots before wading through quicksand.
EdContradictory
01-13-2007, 06:59 AM
Mr. Olney, since it appears that you don't want to answer my (or anyone's, for that matter) question, I'll say this:
If it does, miraculously, turn out that you were indeed in the Marines, no one here has anything to apologize for.
I'm late to the party... but I was thinking. Maybe he wasn't dishonorably discharged. Every statement he makes about being a marine starts with, mentions twice in the middle, and ends with him talking about being dishonorably discharged.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Dhaunea
01-13-2007, 07:29 AM
You know, I swore that when he came back I'd withdraw and not say anything at all. I did. And I was quiet until I finished reading everything this morning.
I just... can't not say anything. I can't.
1. Legally, the only actionable stuff here on the board are various slurs and threats - most of which (although sadly not all) come from the defendant.
(I still love whoever came up with that.)
2. I can't think of a lawyer in the world who'd endorse his return and repeated posting here or anywhere else on the internet or even a lawyer who would look at any of this and agree to take his case. I know of no lawyer who would deliberately take a losing proposition with a known liar as their client, especially one who is being publicly reviled by almost everyone known to ever have had business dealings with him, as a thief and a deadbeat.
Lawyers like to get paid too, after all. In point of fact, a lawyer would be expected to be paid for their consultation and work <i>before</i> the trial, a well as for the trial itself and an unpaid lawyer does not, I believe, have to show up to defend someone who has not paid them. Unless, of course, they're going to appear in order to sue for payment themselves.
3. Guys... please stop calling him names and sinking to his level. Seriously. He brings his own ridicule - just add water - but rising to the bait actually provides support for his ludicrous accusations about being put-upon. Don't do it. I only know most of you by reputation or what I've read here, but you're all far, far better (and far funnier) than that.
4. As far as I know, any Office Max, Kinkos or the like will happily scan documents and put them on a CD for you. The defendant's 'broken scanner' is a laugh and, by far, the most interesting lie - to me, anyway. Why avoid the one thing he could most easily prove as true - as far as having actually been in the Marines, anyway.
5. Open questions.
A: Ronee needs the name of the attorney in order to get things settled. This isn't an unreasonable request and, if Rick had a lawyer, that person should be banging Ronee's door down to get her to sign at this point. In fact, at this point, the defendant is legally obligated to provide it, if he is expecting her to sign papers at said lawyer's instigation.
What is the name of the defendant's lawyer?
It is not too much to ask for a direct answer (even if directed privately to her) and for one that contains no slurs or personal attacks.
B: What is (or was) the tax status of ORCA?
This is a legitimate and very, very important question for anyone who considered donating or actually did donate to that group.
C: Where are the items donated to various auctions or, supposedly, for charity?
There should be receipts and tax paperwork for all of these if they were, in point of fact, donated to the various charities listed. My husband worked for the Salvation Army and they have very specific guidelines for items donated for anything other than re-sale in the store. There <i>will</i> be paperwork for that and, I'd imagine, for the other charities.
For the items claimed to be used for auction, getting together two or three people who remember the auctions and who bid and won on various donated items would probably be sufficient.
D: Has anyone yet received a check from the defendant that cleared?
I seem to recall that, way back in the thread, one person said that they had and that the check was drawn on and signed by Mrs. Olney and thus, I feel, does not count toward checks promised and (theoretically) issued by the defendant.
E: Whatever the defendant's allegations and misdirection, there is still some question regarding his claims involving the husband of the lady who uses the pen-name Gail Simone (and who is, like many, many famous people who have written under pseudonyms throughout the ages, a real person). Has the defendant answered the very simple questions regarding his extremely contradictory answers to date?
F: How much do you really owe Doc Absurd and when can he expect payment of same? Also, could we possibly request an answer that doesn't drag his personal life into it in any way or contain some sort of slam or personal attack?
I'm going to leave aside the question of Blake Petit's intellectual property, as his contract has the 30 day written notice and that's been served.
I would like to address this statement by the defendant, however:
"Everyone that worked on TOTS #1 will get paid. My pledge, just like Val Staples. No matter how long it takes! No matter what I have to do to accomplish it!"
G: When will they get paid for the work which they did and for which you promised to pay?
This answer requires a date, not an equivocation. If the defendant really has a lawyer and they have read any of this or if the defendant has been at all honest with them, they will be standing beside the defendant, right now, advising him to answer this question. Possibly not publicly, but a promise to pay by a certain date made to each person privately would, at this point, go a long way toward having people calm down slightly.
(If only because they'd be waiting for either scans of the payments and reports that said payments went through or bounced, or news of yet another act of fraud.)
All of these questions (and a great many others that I can't remember at the moment) are reasonable. These are simply the ones that I remember most clearly after having slogged through the entire thread and most of the referred sub-threads, Doc Martin's file and the defendant's own MySpace.
As the defendant chose to come here and turn this from a list of grievances into a comedy circus, I don't think it unreasonable for him to answer these questions clearly. At this point, it'd be the polite and responsible thing to do and would go a very long way to gain back at least a tiny fraction of what he's deliberately thrown away with his statements and actions.
And please... try not to sling his shit back at him, guys. It makes you look more like him and less like the wonderful, talented and funny people you are and gives him the satisfaction of having reduced you to his level. You are <i>all</i> better than that - and infinitely smarter.
I'm now going to sit quietly and wait for my share of the condescension, thinly veiled threats and slurs.
EdContradictory
01-13-2007, 07:32 AM
Not my call. It'll have to be considered by my attorney. Blake still has a number of days to either face some sort of action, or simply be released. There is a 30 day period to pass.
Bull. You could end it right now. If you were a decent man you would.
EdContradictory
01-13-2007, 07:40 AM
Time will tell, "Ms. Simone"...
No, it really won't.
If you had a lawyer, everyone involved would have been served by now. If a lawyer thought you had a case they would have first gotten CBR to shut down all discussion, then served everyone involved. You keep saying it "takes time", but the law, particularly in a pretend case like yours where the "defamation" is happening immediately, a lawyer would have moved very quickly.
Papergirl
01-13-2007, 07:43 AM
No, it really won't.
If you had a lawyer, everyone involved would have been served by now. If a lawyer thought you had a case they would have first gotten CBR to shut down all discussion, then served everyone involved. You keep saying it "takes time", but the law, particularly in a pretend case like yours where the "defamation" is happening immediately, a lawyer would have moved very quickly.
Not to mention the fact that, any lawyer worth his salt would drop him in a heartbeat if he continued posting anything online, let alone here where the ball is in our court.
~Bev
Hybrid2
01-13-2007, 07:52 AM
Can anyone pm me a quick recap of what hapened from page 420 to 477?
The train moved way to fast i fell of. :eek:
Joshua Pantalleresco
01-13-2007, 08:05 AM
Well, the short version is Rick came back to defend himself. He actually was doing okay, but soon some of his old tricks came back to haunt him. Lots of zingers and great legal advice. Colleen Doran is officially my legal professor on some things. We had thunderdome for losing man cherries, and lots of other things that have come to past. All in all, it was a lot of fun.
JP
Crowley
01-13-2007, 08:25 AM
As I said, my husband realized something was fishy when Rick lied about paying in advance, then paying when I got there. But he was utterly disgusted by Rick's obnoxious brush-off to the costumed girls. He has no patience for arrogance, and never again trusted a word Rick said.
He's awesome. And a lot less gullible than me.
Gail
Speaking of which...
I love that Gail's husband is dressed better than Olney.
Hey Rick,
Here's a hint... when you're running a company and
running a convention... it might be smarter to dress just a touch more formal.
You know the "I just got out of bed went to iHop" is for Walmart shopping and the like.
THEDOC
01-13-2007, 08:29 AM
"Gail Simone" is able to accept payments. Well, unless they're cash. And I'm not sending cash. So I'll have to ask my attorney about how she figures into all this. Last I knew from 2003 -- She had a claim of $100 dollars that she never sent a receipt in on to be reimbursed. No receipt came in. No monies went out.
Tim Tolbolski has said a bit of stuff that needs to get sorted out.
Ronee can be paid once I hear from her on the signing of a hold harmless release.
What has Tim said that has to be worked out?? He worked for so pay him and Danny. If it's about the ICC that is Tim's you said so in this very thread.
JeffreyWKramer
01-13-2007, 08:34 AM
I've heard the claims several times of Rick making racist comments. Can we get them, so that we can have them for the woman/gay/minority-hating asshole trifecta?
Unfortunately, the ones I saw here were before one of the various CBR crash/purges. If they're archived anywhere, I don't know where. In summary, highlights included Rick making statements about how people shouldn't have any sympathy for the messed up lives many Indians live on reservations, because they're just a bunch of lazy bastards that want to live off the taxpayer, and how the US Government never did wrong by the Indians, and also him defending the internment of Japanese-American citizens during WW II and claiming that many of them were proven spies and traitors.
Someone else way early in this thread mentioned him making racist comments along the same lines - regarding Native Americans, I think - at some con or board in the past, but I don't recall if any links or specific documentation was provided.
JeffreyWKramer
01-13-2007, 08:35 AM
Far as my being a racist. Chalk up another ignorant remark.
You've certainly made plenty of ignorant remarks.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 08:37 AM
Well I was pretty taken with this one :(
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Ick, I missed that one, somehow.
Gail
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 08:38 AM
He's not even a good troll; it's completely artless. Lots of people can say exactly what it takes to piss people off. Doing that while maintaining a defensible, internally consistant position and being more polite and agreeable than your detractors while never avoiding direct questions and making people of average or above average intelligence look foolish - well, I'm not saying anyone should ever troll (I know I certainly wouldn't) but at least there'd be something to that.
This is just nonsense, and if he hadn't been willing to destroy his name and reputation, but had come on as an anonymous user who didn't owe peple money, no one would waste their time on him.
I want to emphasize that, because I think I know what's driving him now:
You haven't earned this attention by being interesting or creative, Olney. You got here because people feel like you stole money from them. Whether they're right or wrong, you should stop all online activities immediately. You must realize that, on some level, you're hurting yourself and your family by continuing this.
Bingo.
No one would even know his name (or give a shit about him one way or another) if he hadn't cheated and threatened all those people.
He thinks being a deadbeat somehow equals being Paris Hilton.
Gail
DungeonmasterJim
01-13-2007, 08:40 AM
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
When I went to bed last night around midnight EST I was all caught up to the then current page of 430.
Now it's up to 477.
This thread really is crack. It just sucks you in and wears you out. At least I'm enjoying my downward spiral.
DM Jim aka 'James Roberts'
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 08:42 AM
I picked that up too.
Maybe he's wishing there wasn't so many witnesses around.
As I said, once Rick was so incredibly rude to the young girls who worked so hard, my husband couldn't look at him without thinking what a huge creep Rick was.
For the rest of the 'con,' he called Rick "The midget." And he didn't mean because of his height.
Gail
Mike Bullock
01-13-2007, 08:43 AM
Rick,
Drop the tough-guy act, take some of the time you're wasting on the internet trying to one-up everyone and get a job so you can pay us what you owe us. You have no legal leg to stand on claiming you can't pay person X because the of the actions of person Y. It basic Law 101.
The fact is, you have no legal leg to stand on for not paying anyone. Period. If you feel you have some recourse involving litigation against anyone else, that is a wholly separate edifice built a foundation of quicksand when your countless debts are still in arrears. If you want to sue me or Gail or Mark or anyone else, you'll need to tidy up your own house before you begin casting stones or your case(s) will be thrown out of court like so much flotsam.
I hear McDonald's is hiring and with the recent raise in minimum wage, you might have us all repaid in 4-5 years. If manual labor is 'beneath you', then maybe you can get a job at one of those telephone collection agencies, at least you'll be speaking the same language as those you're contacting.
And before you make any more empty threats, you might want to stop and consider the word "threat". This implies you have the physical, mental, moral, civil or spiritual power to lord over the person you are gunning for when such things are uttered. Since you possess none of those things, you're merely wasting bandwidth, time, energy and server space. No one is scared of you, no one is reacting in a fearful manner (which is the sole reason for issuing threats, to garner a fearful response) and all you're doing is bringing truckload after truckload of quicksand to the aforementioned foundation.
So, do us all a favor when you log on and read this. Tidy up your house, pay your debts and move on with your existence in the hopes that what remaining years you have on this Earth aren't forever shadowed by the stain of what you're currently authoring in the 'book of your life'.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 08:46 AM
Oh boy. >_< And here I was hoping to avoid being put in this mess. Hopefully Gail doesn't mind me posting here, I know we haven't had the best of times over at X-Fan, but I hope I've grown some since my late teens/early 20s getting myself in over my head --
And just so you know I am sorry for my attitude in the past, I trusted the wrong people and looked up to the wrong people... And well less said the better hopefully.
While I worked for Rick back with Tim, and Lance and them during my "finding myself phase" I was promised stuff same as anyone. And yes, Rick and I have had our discussions, some of them not pleasant, but he has sense apologised for those things and I hold no grudges over some of the darker times.
The money was important to me, when my step-father was diagnosed with Cancer, and I was struggling to make the medical payments trying to get every little bit I could from those that owed me stuff, when he passed this past March, it became less important. Focusing more on getting back to being in the forefront of things.
I'm not sure what what good this thread will do, aside from entertaining people who I guess are looking for a distraction. Like I said to Rick, it's like a Trump vs Rosie thing, all it is, is a sideshow that keeps focus off important matters.
Would I like to be paid for my columns and the eBay things? Sure. The main reason I needed it has since passed, but hell I could do with a PS3, lol. But I'm not going to obsess about it. Sometimes you have to let things go and focus on the future.
Tim, I'm going to send you some names to talk to about doing your toy column, I think you'd be better off focusing on the future than being mired in the past and in bad feelings.
Hope everyone makes it out of the "EXTRA"-esque drama better than they went in, even if it's just a matter of clensing yourself of pent up aggressions.
*returns back to Zen state*
Thanks, Danny, and no worries, you've very welcome here.
This is a perfect example of what a lot of us experienced, that Rick would cry and whine about stubbing his toe, and mope hugely and childishly that that should not only free him from his obligations, but ALSO should generate huge waves of sympathy for him.
But he showed himself to not even LISTEN to the reverse, when we needed the promised monies (in my case, money out of my own pocket) because we had a personal tragedy. No, no, no, not our Olney.
I just think he never grew up.
Gail
THEDOC
01-13-2007, 08:49 AM
You're a done deal, Matt. Matter of time.
What the hell does THAT mean???
Spackling Compound
01-13-2007, 08:52 AM
Mornin', all.
So, I been checking, no answer on the whole "non payment/reimbursement" of the plane fare yet?
Wonder how he can answer questions about karma and Wicca but can't get to that simple question?
Interesting.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 08:54 AM
Unfortunately, the ones I saw here were before one of the various CBR crash/purges. If they're archived anywhere, I don't know where. In summary, highlights included Rick making statements about how people shouldn't have any sympathy for the messed up lives many Indians live on reservations, because they're just a bunch of lazy bastards that want to live off the taxpayer, and how the US Government never did wrong by the Indians, and also him defending the internment of Japanese-American citizens during WW II and claiming that many of them were proven spies and traitors.
Someone else way early in this thread mentioned him making racist comments along the same lines - regarding Native Americans, I think - at some con or board in the past, but I don't recall if any links or specific documentation was provided.
Sigh.
Ick.
Gail
THEDOC
01-13-2007, 08:55 AM
You know little of attornies and cases of this type, from a post like that.
You know little of Spellcheck. It's attorneys.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 08:57 AM
Mornin', all.
So, I been checking, no answer on the whole "non payment/reimbursement" of the plane fare yet?
Wonder how he can answer questions about karma and Wicca but can't get to that simple question?
Interesting.
Nope. No answers on anything, really.
He's a coward, he's proven it time and again. More reason why these lawsuits will never happen.
Never did any of the dozen OTHER times he's threatened, either. He's like the Boy Who Cried Fake Lawsuit.
Gail
TomStillwell
01-13-2007, 08:59 AM
So you have a Hummer and a 'Vette? Huh. Must be nice to have that kind of money.
Trust me. He doesn't have that kind of money. Or money at all.
THEDOC
01-13-2007, 09:02 AM
It's really not funny....anytime I bring up a valid question you runaway like a fuckin coward...which isn't surprising.
C'mon...where did the tough-guy go? You were ready to fight earlier....Let's Go, for charity. We could make a gang of money.
Yeah and we could have it at my "cancellled" show.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 09:03 AM
Simple, simple questions. A brave man could answer them, surely?
1) Did you pay my husband's airfare? Did you even pay all of mine?
2) Why isn't Dave Lanphear here to defend you, Rick?
3) Did you tell Ronee that you needed her help 'securing your assets' because you were leaving your wife?
Very simple questions. Why can't the big tough Marine answer any of them? Why does he dodge them every time?
And, surprise surprise, I got ANOTHER email today (as I've had every day nearly since this started, sometimes more than one) about a creator Rick cheated, three years ago. Guess that whole speech on the mountain he gave about 'I WILL pay these people, WHATEVER IT TAKES (as long as it doesn't take writing a check) and HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES (as long as it's not til hell freezes over) was just the usual Olney stall tactics.
I believe this gentleman will be telling his story later today.
Hmmm.
ANOTHER person Rick cheated.
CLASSY.
Gail
THEDOC
01-13-2007, 09:05 AM
Oh boy. >_< And here I was hoping to avoid being put in this mess. Hopefully Gail doesn't mind me posting here, I know we haven't had the best of times over at X-Fan, but I hope I've grown some since my late teens/early 20s getting myself in over my head --
And just so you know I am sorry for my attitude in the past, I trusted the wrong people and looked up to the wrong people... And well less said the better hopefully.
While I worked for Rick back with Tim, and Lance and them during my "finding myself phase" I was promised stuff same as anyone. And yes, Rick and I have had our discussions, some of them not pleasant, but he has sense apologised for those things and I hold no grudges over some of the darker times.
The money was important to me, when my step-father was diagnosed with Cancer, and I was struggling to make the medical payments trying to get every little bit I could from those that owed me stuff, when he passed this past March, it became less important. Focusing more on getting back to being in the forefront of things.
I'm not sure what what good this thread will do, aside from entertaining people who I guess are looking for a distraction. Like I said to Rick, it's like a Trump vs Rosie thing, all it is, is a sideshow that keeps focus off important matters.
Would I like to be paid for my columns and the eBay things? Sure. The main reason I needed it has since passed, but hell I could do with a PS3, lol. But I'm not going to obsess about it. Sometimes you have to let things go and focus on the future.
Tim, I'm going to send you some names to talk to about doing your toy column, I think you'd be better off focusing on the future than being mired in the past and in bad feelings.
Hope everyone makes it out of the "EXTRA"-esque drama better than they went in, even if it's just a matter of clensing yourself of pent up aggressions.
*returns back to Zen state*
You are a better man than me Danny, but am glad you spoke your piece and that I hope thing are well for you now.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 09:05 AM
Trust me. He doesn't have that kind of money. Or money at all.
Tom's right.
Remember everyone, the next phase is 'Second Meltdown.'
Gail
Spackling Compound
01-13-2007, 09:05 AM
Nope. No answers on anything, really.
He's a coward, he's proven it time and again. More reason why these lawsuits will never happen.
Never did any of the dozen OTHER times he's threatened, either. He's like the Boy Who Cried Fake Lawsuit.
Gail
Sad thing about lawsuits involving morons is that it seems the moron tends to hold the process hostage.
I've been involved in two pretty cut and dried cases involving morons. Due to the morons inability to produce documents on time, cite witnesses, tender medical or financial records, and other things, the process was postponed after postponement over and over again.
It's tiring and exhausting.
Although, I doubt if anything would come of this and don't even know why a sensible person would want to subject themselves to the legal process with this guy.
Scott Shaw!
01-13-2007, 09:06 AM
Yup, Rick Olney's back, and right on schedule. He'll just keep repeating this pattern, but with ever-greater frequency...until the site owner, in this case, CBR's Jolly Jonah Weiland, finally has his fill and tosses out Rick like a used condom.
But, due to the exposure he's gotten here, it's fairly likely he won't con any more writers, cartoonists, publicists or any other folks. As I said earlier, his name now turns up at comic book shops and organizations of comic book professionals.
Y'know, just about everything happens for a reason. When Gail didn't heed my warning about Rick Olney when he invited her to his MiniCon, it set into play a series of events that ultimately led to unveiling his intricate tapestry of blatant lies, demented rants, pinhead logic, hateful screeds, fumbled pronouncements, futile threats and unpaid bills. If Gail had never been to Mohawk, New York to get fleeced by this narcissistic, sociopathic two-legged earwig, none of this would be happening, at least not in this oh-so-very-public way. The entire funnybook industry will thank you, Gail. You're as sweetly ethical as you are talented.
Rick Olney is fast approaching his dream: to become the biggest single predator and general asshole in the history of comic books...which has been the refuge of sleazy businessmen for decades. You make scumbags like Victor Fox, Bob Kane and Myron Fass look like dabblers in dishonesty.
Keep it up, "mister", that brass ring's almost within reach. Every one of your increasingly frequent meltdowns, you come closer to that object of your sick desire. It'll be the last thing you EVER grab from funnybookland. By the time the legal system hunts you down, chews you up and spits you out (or, more likely shits you out), you'll be lucky if you haven't been eartagged for global tracking like the mutant species you are.
And after you've survived that, the comic book industry is gonna hang you up for public display like a human* scarecrow to remind everyone to watch their step when dealing with looney motherfuckers like you who hide behind the claim that they "love comics" -- but in much the same way that silverfish do.
In years to come, would-be comic professionals won't have to worry about getting screwed...
...They'll be worried about "getting Olneyed" instead.
Aloha,
Scott!
* I use "human" only because I really can't tell what the hell you are. -- SS!
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 09:07 AM
http://www.woodsidecountrystore.com/TheDaredevilProject.html
Oh, my god, those quilts are the coolest things I've ever seen!
Gail
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 09:11 AM
"But, due to the exposure he's gotten here, it's fairly likely he won't con any more writers, cartoonists, publicists or any other folks. As I said earlier, his name now turns up at comic book shops and organizations of comic book professionals."
Ain't THAT the truth. Everyone I talk to is making Olney jokes...Bill Willingham over on comicspace made me crack up with one, and probably the oddest one was when Dan DiDio, of all people, called to very kindly invite me to be a guest of honor at a convention a couple days ago. Almost the first thing out of his mouth?
"And don't worry, unlike SOME people, we promise to pay your way!"
When this stuff filters around like that, this kind of universal contempt and mockery, it really can't be undone. Nice work, Rick!
Gail
THEDOC
01-13-2007, 09:13 AM
http://www.woodsidecountrystore.com/TheDaredevilProject.html
Oh, my god, those quilts are the coolest things I've ever seen!
Gail
Yeah those are pretty neat.
Blake Petit
01-13-2007, 09:14 AM
I'm not a copyright or contract expert, but chances are there's no "return" involved. From what's been indicated in this thread, Olney the Lonely has never lived up to his side of the contract. The agreement sounds like it originally (remember, Mr. P mentioned that he signed a revised version that included a clause indicating he retained his rights) included an exchange of rights for compensation. As compensation never occurred, there should be no transfer.
While it would still be worthwhile for Blake (or Ronee, as his manager) to consult an Intellectual Property lawyer regarding the contract, it seems pretty clear that a) Mr. P didn't sign anything that transferred his rights and b) RO didn't live up to his end of the bargain anyway.
PDS
That's it in a nutshell, Paul. All I want is to take what I created and start looking for a real home for it.
Mike Bullock
01-13-2007, 09:16 AM
http://www.woodsidecountrystore.com/TheDaredevilProject.html
Oh, my god, those quilts are the coolest things I've ever seen!
Gail
Wow.:eek: :D My wife REALLY needs one of those with the Night Pride on it. Excellent work! http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 09:19 AM
I know, man, I love this stuff. LOVE when someone takes their talent and love for comics and blends them like this, in a unique way.
Note that I did say 'talent.'
Gail
Mike Bullock
01-13-2007, 09:21 AM
I know, man, I love this stuff. LOVE when someone takes their talent and love for comics and blends them like this, in a unique way.
Note that I did say 'talent.'
Gail
Yes. Remember that guy who created those excellent wine bottles with the CG art on them?
Corrina
01-13-2007, 09:21 AM
If not totally legend awesome, it would be at least amusing as all fuck out.
If it wouldn't implode before the Dixons sorted out a middle ground in their respective political philosophies. Hah. But they'd probably put that aside, agreeing completely that self-righteous comic publishers who don't pay people really need to be taught a lesson. :)
SUPERECWFAN1
01-13-2007, 09:23 AM
Ain't THAT the truth. Everyone I talk to is making Olney jokes...Bill Willingham over on comicspace made me crack up with one, and probably the oddest one was when Dan DiDio, of all people, called to very kindly invite me to be a guest of honor at a convention a couple days ago. Almost the first thing out of his mouth?
"And don't worry, unlike SOME people, we promise to pay your way!"
When this stuff filters around like that, this kind of universal contempt and mockery, it really can't be undone. Nice work, Rick!
Gail
Ok when the guy over DC Comics is cracking jokes on you....its not a good thing.
DungeonmasterJim
01-13-2007, 09:25 AM
Hey married people, I have a question. In Ric Olney's picture with Heidi, Gail and husband, I do not see a wedding band on Olney's hand unless it's on his pinkie finger of his right hand which wouldn't make any sense to me. Any theories on why someone wouldn't wear their wedding band to a con? I've seen guys have to remove their rings in the football leagues I use to play in, but a convention?
I'm not married so maybe I'm missing something there in my ignorance but I just wondering.
Thanks.
DM Jim aka 'James Roberts'
SUPERECWFAN1
01-13-2007, 09:30 AM
Now if Omar is serious about facing Rick Olney in a cage match lets at least make it interesting. I mean lets have it be under ECW rules !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkqGAmGjF90
Rick would make an awesome heel ( bad guy) in this. I can imagine the heel heat he could generate. Fans would wanna see this match. I bet if it was staged before Mighty Mini-Con it would end up selling out. I know many would show just to watch the bad guy bleed.
Plus the gate could go to those owed money to.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 09:30 AM
Ah, my husband doesn't wear one, either. He doesn't care for jewelry of any sort.
No biggie.
Gail
Mike Bullock
01-13-2007, 09:31 AM
Hey married people, I have a question. In Ric Olney's picture with Heidi, Gail and husband, I do not see a wedding band on Olney's hand unless it's on his pinkie finger of his right hand which wouldn't make any sense to me. Any theories on why someone wouldn't wear their wedding band to a con? I've seen guys have to remove their rings in the football leagues I use to play in, but a convention?
I'm not married so maybe I'm missing something there in my ignorance but I just wondering.
Thanks.
DM Jim aka 'James Roberts'
Good spot. I don't wear mine in the house, but if I ever leave home without it, I turn around immediately and get it. I feel naked without it... and trust me, you don't want to see me naked. ;)
SUPERECWFAN1
01-13-2007, 09:34 AM
Ah, my husband doesn't wear one, either. He doesn't care for jewelry of any sort.
No biggie.
Gail
Wierdly I feel the same way. I hate to even wear a necklace . Never could handle wearing it or trying to be flashy.
Crowley
01-13-2007, 09:35 AM
so any bets as to when this thread will hit 1,000 pages?
Mike Bullock
01-13-2007, 09:37 AM
Look what I found:
http://forums.jazmaonline.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=132
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 09:41 AM
This is from Jazma. I almost laughed up a lung.
"Then -- It took imagination back in the 1940 thru 1980's to read and enjoy a comic book, didn't it?
Today-- I don't believe that it takes as much imagination. Why? Because everything we'd see parceled out on a page in a comic book is now in any of the programs available on television, or rentable via any of the chain stores.
What are you reading today that inspires your imagination? Name one title, if you can.
Regards,
~Rick
TightLip Entertainment"
HAHHHA!
"Oh, gee, Rick...you're right! Oh, how I WISH someone would create a crappy superhero team with a Blok rip-off and a Hawkman xerox! Or, or, boy, if only some pasty weirdo in upstate New York would create a Mary Sue-led rip-off of a crappy movie, without even bothering to change the title! How SWELL that would be! They could name the Mary Sue 'Maximus Griddlecake!'
Or maybe he could write a ridiculously obviously autobiographical story about a loser kid who has a magic fish that sees how truly SPECIAL he is (since everyone else on the PLANET hates him, including his parents!!)"
heh. You slay me, and not with the iKill threat. Dude, these are the least original things I've ever seen, and I've seen Under Siege II. Your own team had to hold their noses while working on them and at least two of them warned you flat out that Monster Squad was well over into lawsuit territory for blatantly ripping off the film of the SAME NAME, Mr. Original.
As for original titles titles that actually ARE original (and have, you know, actual WRITERS, the stands are full of them;
Pride of Baghdad
Ex Machina
Y: The Last Man
Fell
The Last Christmas
Fables
Exterminators
A Distant Soil
Astro City
Sheesh, I could go on and on. Just because YOU read the same old shit you read when you were twelve doesn't mean that's all there IS.
Dude, I can't draw to save my life, so I spare the world my scribbles. But your writing is the prose equivilent of stick figures drawn by a team of baboons. Can't you spare the world that suffering?
Oh, wait, your books will never actually come out.
Never mind!
Gail
Solaris
01-13-2007, 09:42 AM
"churning butter queen?"
Somewhere, eyes dazzled by the fading dreamscape of mirrorball glints, Bert wakes up and looks around, thinking someone was calling his name from afar.
Larry... I haven't laughed that hard in a LOOOoong time! I've met Bert several times, and I could just *see* his expression in the scene you described.
Beautiful.
:D
Sarah Beach
01-13-2007, 09:43 AM
No, that isn't the reason at all. "Gail Simone" is a non-person, and as such while being a pen name for "Gail's" real person, meaning herself, I'm merely noting that "she" isn't real.
Yes, it's morning, and I'm still back on page 447. And I'm sure others have reacted to this, but REALLY!!!!!
That quote has to be one of the most specious bits of illogic I have ever encountered. peanut. Names are used to designate people. The name Gail Simone is used to designate a particular person. That person asks people to address her as such, and she answers to it. AND SHE EXISTS.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ON THIS YOU DIMWIT.
Damn. And I hardly ever swear like that. But the guy's an idiot.
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 09:44 AM
I'm honoured you'd put my name along with the others mentioned in your post, Di-fan.
Thanks. :)
I call them like I see them.
Solaris
01-13-2007, 09:44 AM
...
Tim, do you SERIOUSLY think I give a rat's ass over how many people felt a need to come join this goose pile. Do you really think this is my first? Of course not!
...
No... but I seriously bet it's gonna be your last.
:D
Solaris
01-13-2007, 09:45 AM
Yes, it's morning, and I'm still back on page 447. And I'm sure others have reacted to this, but REALLY!!!!!
That quote has to be one of the most specious bits of illogic I have ever encountered. peanut. Names are used to designate people. The name Gail Simone is used to designate a particular person. That person asks people to address her as such, and she answers to it. AND SHE EXISTS.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ON THIS YOU DIMWIT.
Damn. And I hardly ever swear like that. But the guy's an idiot.
Wonder what he thinks of "Mark Twain"???
:D
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 09:50 AM
Yes, it's morning, and I'm still back on page 447. And I'm sure others have reacted to this, but REALLY!!!!!
That quote has to be one of the most specious bits of illogic I have ever encountered. peanut. Names are used to designate people. The name Gail Simone is used to designate a particular person. That person asks people to address her as such, and she answers to it. AND SHE EXISTS.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ON THIS YOU DIMWIT.
Damn. And I hardly ever swear like that. But the guy's an idiot.
Honestly? I just laugh about it. He couldn't show himself as a complete amateur in the publishing world more completely if he tried.
Gail
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 09:51 AM
Look what I found:
http://forums.jazmaonline.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=132
For the love of god.
DrewEdwards
01-13-2007, 09:52 AM
I just attempted to read the whole thread. I think might head might explode. :eek:
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 09:56 AM
I just attempted to read the whole thread. I think might head might explode. :eek:
Yeah, The Defendant can have that effect on people.
Blake Petit
01-13-2007, 09:57 AM
Jesus Christ bananas. I wake up in the morning and it takes me nearly two hours to catch up with the thread. : pants, exhausted:
I would, however, like to agree with everyone who says that Darediva's quilts are freakin' AWESOME. I know someone who'd go ape over a Harley Quinn quilt...
Joshua Pantalleresco
01-13-2007, 09:59 AM
I just attempted to read the whole thread. I think might head might explode. :eek:
Don't try to rationalize it. Just accept it as is...reason leads to madness in this thread.
JP
Solaris
01-13-2007, 10:01 AM
I am Wiccan. A practicing solitary for a long time. I know of what my craft
describes as what you think of as karma. It is close, but not the same. Least wise not in my book.
I would LOVE to hear your "own personal take" on Wicca, Rick.
What's your philosophy? What are the ground rules of your belief? What's your take on Karma?
Let's hear it.
DrewEdwards
01-13-2007, 10:02 AM
It really started to suck me in. I had to force myself not to respond to stuff from hundreds of pages back.
Papergirl
01-13-2007, 10:04 AM
Look what I found:
http://forums.jazmaonline.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=132
I love you. In a totally platonic, sibling like way. But, it's true. I do.
~Bev
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 10:05 AM
Yup, Rick Olney's back, and right on schedule. He'll just keep repeating this pattern, but with ever-greater frequency...until the site owner, in this case, CBR's Jolly Jonah Weiland, finally has his fill and tosses out Rick like a used condom.
But, due to the exposure he's gotten here, it's fairly likely he won't con any more writers, cartoonists, publicists or any other folks. As I said earlier, his name now turns up at comic book shops and organizations of comic book professionals.
Y'know, just about everything happens for a reason. When Gail didn't heed my warning about Rick Olney when he invited her to his MiniCon, it set into play a series of events that ultimately led to unveiling his intricate tapestry of blatant lies, demented rants, pinhead logic, hateful screeds, fumbled pronouncements, futile threats and unpaid bills. If Gail had never been to Mohawk, New York to get fleeced by this narcissistic sociopath, none of this would be happening, at least not in this oh-so-very-public way. The entire funnybook industry will thank you, Gail. You're as sweetly ethical as you are talented.
Rick Olney is fast approaching his dream: to become the biggest single predator and general asshole in the history of comic books...which has been the refuge of sleazy businessmen for decades. You make scumbags like Victor Fox, Bob Kane and Myron Fass look like dabblers in dishonesty.
Keep it up, "mister", that brass ring's almost within reach. Every one of your increasingly frequent meltdowns, you come closer to that object of your sick desire. It'll be the last thing you EVER grab from funnybookland. By the time the legal system hunts you down, chews you up and spits you out (or, more likely shits you out), you'll be lucky if you haven't been eartagged for global tracking like the mutant species you are.
And after you've survived that, the comic book industry is gonna hang you up for public display like a human* scarecrow to remind everyone to watch their step when dealing with looney motherfucker like you. In years to come, would-be comic professionals won't have to worry about getting screwed...
...They'll be worried about "getting Olneyed" instead.
Aloha,
Scott!
* I use "human" only because I really can't tell what the hell you are. -- SS!
An absolutely perfect summary.
It's uncanny how exacting SS!'s prediction of The Defendant's behavior was.
Sarah Beach
01-13-2007, 10:11 AM
Umm... I donno. All I've heard from "Gail" is the $100 dollars repeated over again. Certtainly, she could've brought a civil complaint if more money was involved. And, as the matter took place in 2003 ... I'm not sure why she waited so long to make a matter of fact (or suposid fact) out of it. Far as your name calling. Feh. I've been called worse. :rolleyes:
Yeah, I'm still running behind. But even so.....
Now pay attention class: note how the specimen keeps discussion focused on the "non-matter". He keeps harping on his non-payment of $100, money which he promised to Gail and then did not deliver. Money which she did blow off.
Remember, she has consistently said that her disgust for him is not about the money. It is about the fact that one has to ask, and ask, and ask, for payment of money he either owes or has promised (and which the "recipient" had counted on as needed income, not spare change).
Yet, the specimen constantly focuses on the amount of money he promised, and not on the fact that he did not pay. His "oh so reasonable" tone tries to convey that he's just a nice guy who can't figure out why she keeps harping about a mere $100 that she has said she doesn't want anyway.
The specimen ignores the fact that she finds his resistence to living up to his promise over the course of two years dispicable behavior, and something that people should be warned about. He doesn't want you to remember that. He's trying to make you think that Gail is unreasonable for holding a grudge over a mere $100.
Dear sir: for the record, it is not about the money you promised Gail. Gail has made this public because your behavior is consistently toxic and corrupt. You only pay people as a very last resort. And as far as we can determine, the ONLY payments you have made to anyone consist of reimbursements promised to professionals of the comic book industry who you inticed to attend your conventions, and refunds to some dealers for table rates at cancelled conventions. We cannot determine that you have ever paid anyone you promised for the work, writing, artwort, or web design/building that they have done for you.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-13-2007, 10:17 AM
I would LOVE to hear your "own personal take" on Wicca, Rick.
What's your philosophy? What are the ground rules of your belief? What's your take on Karma?
Let's hear it.
He said in a post he doesn't believe in Karma. When I brought up Instant Karma he responded with that.
edit: I just wanna add thats how Wicca came back up in this Solaris because I remembered your post and asked him.
Blake Petit
01-13-2007, 10:19 AM
Instant karma -- that's the one where you just add water and microwave for 30 seconds, right?
:rimshot:
Solaris
01-13-2007, 10:20 AM
Careful, I've been nice to you... :rolleyes: Isn't fun to make fun of a person's religion. :p
Or family hardships, or weight, or gender, or race...
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 10:24 AM
Or family hardships, or weight, or gender, or race...
Oh why confuse the matter with decency and basic human behavior?
Pfft.
Solaris
01-13-2007, 10:25 AM
He said in a post he doesn't believe in Karma. When I brought up Instant Karma he responded with that.
edit: I just wanna add thats how Wicca came back up in this Solaris because I remembered your post and asked him.
Yeah, I read back a bit and saw that---Thanks! Though I'm not the only Pagan or Wiccan posting in this thread. Howler and TC in particular have had some great comments.
I think I'll keep reposting my questions from time to time, until he answers them. Otherwise, they may get lost in the demonic speed of growth this thread suffers! :D
SUPERECWFAN1
01-13-2007, 10:26 AM
Instant karma -- that's the one where you just add water and microwave for 30 seconds, right?
:rimshot:
Its not Instant shake and mix ? Noooooooooooo!!!!:eek:
Sarah Beach
01-13-2007, 10:33 AM
Nor do I.
Everyone that worked on TOTS #1 will get paid. My pledge, just like Val Staples. No matter how long it takes! No matter what I have to do to accomplish it!
So, I find this statement on page 452, post 6777. I think I vaguely knew it last night when I gave up the ghost in favor of needed sleep, but in reading through all his non-statments this morning just to get this far, I realized that he doesn't really want to "clear the air" or say anything truly pertinent.
All he wanted to do was run up the post count. His ego got twitted by Ian Shires playful post in claiming post #6000, that he wanted to run it up to #7000. Probably just to undercut even that little "achievement" (which Ian probably doesn't even care about, except as an amusement). That's why he didn't really care that Bev (Papergirl, I love that kitty avatar! It's so cute!) was copying and reposting everything, because it helped up the count.
That's all he cares about here. He'll never make any satisfying responses (although plenty of legally stupid ones). He'll just post to run up the count to the next target, like it's some big deal to be the subject of a record-breaking thread. He doesn't care why he's the target. He REALLY DOES NOT CARE how this makes him look on the public record. He's getting his ego strokes from the stupidest of reasons: this huge thread is about HIM.
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 10:38 AM
That's all he cares about here. He'll never make any satisfying responses (although plenty of legally stupid ones). He'll just post to run up the count to the next target, like it's some big deal to be the subject of a record-breaking thread. He doesn't care why he's the target. He REALLY DOES NOT CARE how this makes him look on the public record. He's getting his ego strokes from the stupidest of reasons: this huge thread is about HIM.
That makes a lot of sense. Well, it makes sense in a twisted, pathetic, morally bankrupt sort of way. But sense, nonetheless.
Solaris
01-13-2007, 10:41 AM
So, I find this statement on page 452, post 6777. I think I vaguely knew it last night when I gave up the ghost in favor of needed sleep, but in reading through all his non-statments this morning just to get this far, I realized that he doesn't really want to "clear the air" or say anything truly pertinent.
All he wanted to do was run up the post count. His ego got twitted by Ian Shires playful post in claiming post #6000, that he wanted to run it up to #7000. Probably just to undercut even that little "achievement" (which Ian probably doesn't even care about, except as an amusement). That's why he didn't really care that Bev (Papergirl, I love that kitty avatar! It's so cute!) was copying and reposting everything, because it helped up the count.
That's all he cares about here. He'll never make any satisfying responses (although plenty of legally stupid ones). He'll just post to run up the count to the next target, like it's some big deal to be the subject of a record-breaking thread. He doesn't care why he's the target. He REALLY DOES NOT CARE how this makes him look on the public record. He's getting his ego strokes from the stupidest of reasons: this huge thread is about HIM.
Actually, I think it goes a bit beyond this, Sarah.
I think he honestly and truely BELIEVES that, like countless other times, he's gonna "get out of jail free," so to speak. He has this belief that no one ever truly will "catch up with him," that he will always get off on whatever he's been charged with... and that there are always more young fish in the sea that he can "hire." His whole approach has this tone of "Two years from now, who will remember all this brou-ha-ha? This is just one of the many time's I've been jumped on by those who envy me, or who are trolls... sooner or later, it'll blow over, and I'll be back to 'business as usual.' They can't REALLY 'get me.'"
It's a part of the sociopath's mentality, tbh---the belief that they will *always* get away with it. That belief gets reinforced with every time they *do* get away with it... by now, his belief has to be quite strong.
Then again... Goliath thought he was the mightiest man on earth, and had the experience of many battles to back his belief... until he met David. :D
Sarah Beach
01-13-2007, 10:43 AM
Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1
Yeah Rick answer this one . Its clear Petit wants out and he's pulling away since no work has ever been done.
Not my call. It'll have to be considered by my attorney. Blake still has a number of days to either face some sort of action, or simply be released. There is a 30 day period to pass.
Specious. What this means, gang, is that he's going to sit on this for the full 30 days, just to keep Blake from taking it anywhere in that time period. Just to be pissy. There's nothing for the lawyer to "consider". Blake has chosen to withdraw from the contract. As was his contracted right! Even though Mr. Olney is now freed of the obligation to pay Blake anything, he's still not going to sign or say anything that will release Blake any earlier than the end of the 30 day period. And that, in case you don't realize it, which I'm sure most everyone does, is pettier than petty.
Papergirl
01-13-2007, 10:43 AM
So, I find this statement on page 452, post 6777. I think I vaguely knew it last night when I gave up the ghost in favor of needed sleep, but in reading through all his non-statments this morning just to get this far, I realized that he doesn't really want to "clear the air" or say anything truly pertinent.
I don't think anyone here really expected him to provide any real answers. We all knew he was here just to feed his own sad little ego with attention. Even negative attention is better than no attention to him.
All he wanted to do was run up the post count. His ego got twitted by Ian Shires playful post in claiming post #6000, that he wanted to run it up to #7000. Probably just to undercut even that little "achievement" (which Ian probably doesn't even care about, except as an amusement). That's why he didn't really care that Bev (Papergirl, I love that kitty avatar! It's so cute!) was copying and reposting everything, because it helped up the count.
Thanks! I wish I could remember where I found it years ago. I'd love to be able to give proper credit!
As for the post count... HA! You beat him to the 7000 mark! So, his sad little efforts were in vain! :D
That's all he cares about here. He'll never make any satisfying responses (although plenty of legally stupid ones). He'll just post to run up the count to the next target, like it's some big deal to be the subject of a record-breaking thread. He doesn't care why he's the target. He REALLY DOES NOT CARE how this makes him look on the public record. He's getting his ego strokes from the stupidest of reasons: this huge thread is about HIM.
Seriously, it goes back to what I was saying: He feeds off attention of any sort. Especially negative. That way, he gets to (unsuccessfully) play the martyred innocent and make everyone else out to be the big bad bullies.
Aside from quoting anything he says so he can't delete it, I wouldn't respond to him at all. Let's deflat that ego a bit, shall we? :D
~Bev
Blake Petit
01-13-2007, 10:46 AM
Specious. What this means, gang, is that he's going to sit on this for the full 30 days, just to keep Blake from taking it anywhere in that time period. Just to be pissy. There's nothing for the lawyer to "consider". Blake has chosen to withdraw from the contract. As was his contracted right! Even though Mr. Olney is now freed of the obligation to pay Blake anything, he's still not going to sign or say anything that will release Blake any earlier than the end of the 30 day period. And that, in case you don't realize it, which I'm sure most everyone does, is pettier than petty.
To be honest, Sarah, I expected nothing less.
No biggie. It's not like anything would have been done in the next four weeks anyway. And in the meantime, I've got another idea I've been developing (which, thank Heavens, I've only told a few people about) that I'd be happy to start shopping around in the meantime.
heystacy
01-13-2007, 10:48 AM
Bingo.
No one would even know his name (or give a shit about him one way or another) if he hadn't cheated and threatened all those people.
He thinks being a deadbeat somehow equals being Paris Hilton.
Gail
Paris Hilton. :eek: Famous for being...
Dude has it so wrong. I suppose when you're this self destructive nothing but the matters. That is a sad state of affairs.
Sarah Beach
01-13-2007, 10:55 AM
Tim,
"To give beyond reason. To care beyond hope. To love without limit. To reach, stretch, and dream in spite of your fears. These are the hallmarks of divinity - traits of the immortal - your badges of honor, and your ticket onward."
LOL!
I mean, seriously? Is he quoting that to imply that he fits that? That he strives for those things?
BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!
David O Burcham
01-13-2007, 10:56 AM
But, due to the exposure he's gotten here... his name now turns up at comic book shops and organizations of comic book professionals.
These particular words really struck a chord with me, Mr.Shaw!. I have been reading funny-books for over thirty years. Much like my Pro Wrestling fandomness, I always tried to absorb knowledge of people associated (in various capacities) with the product, not just the product itself.
I can honestly say that I had never even heard of Rick Olney... even with the growth of the 'Net... until I read about this thread in "Lying in the Gutters". It goes to show that this guy is delusional about his importance to and position in the Comic Book business food chain.
I'm ticked-off at this thread because I know this goober even exists now, but I'm so glad that he's been exposed. I'm conflicted between "knowledge is power" and "ignorance is bliss" concerning Olney.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 10:58 AM
Yeah, I'm still running behind. But even so.....
Now pay attention class: note how the specimen keeps discussion focused on the "non-matter". He keeps harping on his non-payment of $100, money which he promised to Gail and then did not deliver. Money which she did blow off.
Remember, she has consistently said that her disgust for him is not about the money. It is about the fact that one has to ask, and ask, and ask, for payment of money he either owes or has promised (and which the "recipient" had counted on as needed income, not spare change).
Yet, the specimen constantly focuses on the amount of money he promised, and not on the fact that he did not pay. His "oh so reasonable" tone tries to convey that he's just a nice guy who can't figure out why she keeps harping about a mere $100 that she has said she doesn't want anyway.
The specimen ignores the fact that she finds his resistence to living up to his promise over the course of two years dispicable behavior, and something that people should be warned about. He doesn't want you to remember that. He's trying to make you think that Gail is unreasonable for holding a grudge over a mere $100.
Dear sir: for the record, it is not about the money you promised Gail. Gail has made this public because your behavior is consistently toxic and corrupt. You only pay people as a very last resort. And as far as we can determine, the ONLY payments you have made to anyone consist of reimbursements promised to professionals of the comic book industry who you inticed to attend your conventions, and refunds to some dealers for table rates at cancelled conventions. We cannot determine that you have ever paid anyone you promised for the work, writing, artwort, or web design/building that they have done for you.
Bullseye, Sarah, and much appreciated.
It's all he's got, the obuscation, now. Too many cheated people have come forward and many more wait in the wings.
Gail
AaronJ
01-13-2007, 10:58 AM
If nothing else, the question posed in the title of this thread has been pretty conclusively answered.
Glaad to see that you're still as sharp as cheese.
your subtle mentioning of GLAAD doesn't erase any of your anti-gay comments made elsewhere in this thread, you turd.
come to think of it. . you really ARE pretty stupid, so it was probably more of a typo than an attempt to be shrewd.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_and_Lesbian_Alliance_Against_Defamation
David O Burcham
01-13-2007, 11:02 AM
Rick would make an awesome heel ( bad guy) in this. I can imagine the heel heat he could generate. Fans would wanna see this match. I bet if it was staged before Mighty Mini-Con it would end up selling out. I know many would show just to watch the bad guy bleed.
I see your point, but it is lacking in Pro Wrestling "logic". In real life, the heels are some of the sweetest guys you'll ever meet (Abdullah the Butcher is a teddy bear) while the babyfaces are true assholes.
Olney would, therefore, have to play 'face and it just wouldn't work.
:D
Kurt Busiek
01-13-2007, 11:03 AM
Being nice to someone includes paying them money you owe.
No, actually, it doesn't. That's simple professionalism, honor and ethics.
You can be a sonofabitch and still pay people what you owe them. Being nice to them is something extra, and not even something required.
Paying them, though, that's required.
kdb
Matt Doc Martin
01-13-2007, 11:05 AM
What the hell does THAT mean???
It means that allegedly I am heading to Sing Sing for a good long time for "harassment".
Now, ignore the fact that people seem to be lining up offers to hand him his ass (Remember, people, lift with your legs), ignore the fact that HE ALREADY SAID he had contacted the police and I should be in jail in a matter of hours....weeks ago, and ignore the fact that NOTHING I have done or said approaches any level of legal harassment.
That is what he meant. Apparently, if he says it, it must be true. Or the attorney in his pocket told him. Which explains how he can afford to "keep him on retainer"...he pays him with Happy Meals.
THEDOC
01-13-2007, 11:05 AM
I see your point, but it is lacking in Pro Wrestling "logic". In real life, the heels are some of the sweetest guys you'll ever meet (Abdullah the Butcher is a teddy bear) while the babyfaces are true assholes.
Olney would, therefore, have to play 'face and it just wouldn't work.
:D
True true. "Rick" is the manager who puts his wrestlers in harms way so he can escape.
THEDOC
01-13-2007, 11:06 AM
It means that allegedly I am heading to Sing Sing for a good long time for "harassment".
Now, ignore the fact that people seem to be lining up offers to hand him his ass (Remember, people, lift with your legs), ignore the fact that HE ALREADY SAID he had contacted the police and I should be in jail in a matter of hours....weeks ago, and ignore the fact that NOTHING I have done or said approaches any level of legal harassment.
That is what he meant. Apparently, if he says it, it must be true. Or the attorney in his pocket told him. Which explains how he can afford to "keep him on retainer"...he pays him with Happy Meals.
He must have called teh Keystone Cops.
Paul D. Storrie
01-13-2007, 11:07 AM
That's it in a nutshell, Paul. All I want is to take what I created and start looking for a real home for it.
I think you're in the clear at this point. Nothing he can do or say is going to invalidate the facts -- you signed a contract that did NOT include a transfer of rights, he never paid you and you've provided him a written notice terminating the contract.
Sure, he may say that he's going to sue you, but he's said that to a lot of people and it hasn't happened.
In any event, good luck with finding a new home for the project!
PDS
THEDOC
01-13-2007, 11:09 AM
I wonder if "Rick" uses Men of Tomorrow his business plan. Dude, this ain't the Thirties and you are NOT Victor Fox.
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 11:11 AM
Guys, I don't know how to say this any more simply.
Rick's threats of legal action are about as likely as his actually having a writing career after exposing himself as the biggest deadbeat jerk in comics.
He's been threatening to sue people online for years. YEARS.
He's sued none of them. He's a pasty, slobby, empty gun.
I've got email from him already saying he's got one case against him already, and several others are in the process, assuming they haven't hit him yet.
Guy's done. His threats here are no more real than they were on Comicon or TCJ.
Gail
Blake Petit
01-13-2007, 11:12 AM
I think you're in the clear at this point. Nothing he can do or say is going to invalidate the facts -- you signed a contract that did NOT include a transfer of rights, he never paid you and you've provided him a written notice terminating the contract.
Sure, he may say that he's going to sue you, but he's said that to a lot of people and it hasn't happened.
In any event, good luck with finding a new home for the project!
PDS
Thanks, man. I know Ronee and I are both eager to start shopping around Evertime, not to mention a few other things I've had cooking in my brainpan.
Uh-huh.
Right.
Your "friends" were warned off? Really? Who are your friends? What are their names?
Oh wait, let me guess: You can't tell us? Is that right?
Give me a break.
Rosie Palm and her five sisters?
Wil Radcliffe
01-13-2007, 11:12 AM
Hey married people, I have a question. In Ric Olney's picture with Heidi, Gail and husband, I do not see a wedding band on Olney's hand unless it's on his pinkie finger of his right hand which wouldn't make any sense to me. Any theories on why someone wouldn't wear their wedding band to a con? I've seen guys have to remove their rings in the football leagues I use to play in, but a convention?
I'm not married so maybe I'm missing something there in my ignorance but I just wondering.
Thanks.
DM Jim aka 'James Roberts'
I sometimes take my wedding ring off when I'm relaxing at home or doing chores. But I always wear it when I'm out in public. If I can't find it, I don't leave the house until I do.
Paul D. Storrie
01-13-2007, 11:19 AM
Originally Posted by Rick Olney
Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1
Yeah Rick answer this one . Its clear Petit wants out and he's pulling away since no work has ever been done.
Not my call. It'll have to be considered by my attorney. Blake still has a number of days to either face some sort of action, or simply be released. There is a 30 day period to pass.
Specious. What this means, gang, is that he's going to sit on this for the full 30 days, just to keep Blake from taking it anywhere in that time period. Just to be pissy. There's nothing for the lawyer to "consider". Blake has chosen to withdraw from the contract. As was his contracted right! Even though Mr. Olney is now freed of the obligation to pay Blake anything, he's still not going to sign or say anything that will release Blake any earlier than the end of the 30 day period. And that, in case you don't realize it, which I'm sure most everyone does, is pettier than petty.
What I love is the suggestion that it isn't his call. As if his attorney (if there was one), could prevent him from saying, "I'm going to relinquish any claim to Blake's property."
Perhaps he tried and the mythical attorney pulled out a pistol and said, "I can't let you do that, Mr. Olney!"
Makes as much sense as anything else he's claimed in this thread.
PDS
Sarah Beach
01-13-2007, 11:24 AM
Well, I didn't bother to enlighten anyone when they were having fun with the van in the driveway ... but the van isn't mine. If you saw the van, then you saw the two stall garage in front of it. I park my hummer in one side and my 'vette in the other. :D
There you have it gang! That's at least $100,000 of assets right there. Of course, I'm wondering how he can afford the licensing fees on two such vehicles.
Oh, wait. I don't really believe him, anyway. I'll bet the van REALLY belongs to his wife or one of his kids. Because NOBODY WILL TRUST HIM WITH REAL MONEY.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-13-2007, 11:26 AM
I see your point, but it is lacking in Pro Wrestling "logic". In real life, the heels are some of the sweetest guys you'll ever meet (Abdullah the Butcher is a teddy bear) while the babyfaces are true assholes.
Olney would, therefore, have to play 'face and it just wouldn't work.
:D
Well Edge and HHH are the exceptions to this rule though. Because Edge did cheat on his wife with Amy Dumas on the road. Screwing over his wife and his good pal who was dating her.
HHH used his position on the card to start a relationship with Stephanie McMahon . Plus his behavior backstage has always been known to be driven by ego more or less.
Bob Holly has done some jerkish things like picking on young guys backstage and being a general bully. I don't doubt what we saw when he took advantage of that young kid in the Tough Enough show a few years back where he punked him for the hell of it.
Olney could play a heel and be pretty damn good at it I feel. Yeah guys like Jericho and Christian are great guys who really aren't jerks backstage . They as you listed as Abdullah are sweet honest guys behind the camera.
Matt Doc Martin
01-13-2007, 11:26 AM
Oh...and ALL his blogs went away.
But I got 'em!
I will respond to the dozen PM's I got a bit later. Unless the Federales come beating down my door.
Odd that he ignored the one thing I wrote that gave him an "out".
Ronée
01-13-2007, 11:27 AM
Ronee, I swear to God, whatever payment he's got tied to that heinous HHR, I will match it out of my own pocket for you NOT to sign it.
point is, he refuses to give me the information I need to carry out his request. There is no HHR, just like there is no lawyer. He's putting me off once again! I want my 800! I EARNED that 800 for putting up with his mind games and bullshit and trying to make HIM look good. (that is damn hard)
Rick. Email, call, use smoke signals... but I want the contact info of your lawyer so I can look over this HHR and comply with what you say I must do to get paid.
Blake Petit
01-13-2007, 11:31 AM
And Mark -- you, sir, are my freaking hero. I almost wish you weren't already one of my favorite writers so I could add you to the list.
KevinTBrown
01-13-2007, 11:37 AM
Sheesh, in going through this thread and reading the "replies" "Rick Olney" is giving, I've come to the conclusion he's like the human (or something akin to human) equivalent of the Magic 8-ball....
You shake him up and you get the following answers:
Reply hazy, try again.
Better not tell you now.
Ask again later.
Concentrate and ask again.
Cannot predict now.
My sources say no.
Very doubtful.
My reply is no.
Outlook not so good.
Don't count on it.
Unfortunately, you'll never get these answers:
Signs point to yes.
Yes.
Most likely.
Without a doubt.
Yes - definitely.
As I see it, yes.
You may rely on it.
Outlook good.
It is certain.
It is decidedly so.
So I guess that makes him the ambiguous Magic 8-Ball...
Sarah Beach
01-13-2007, 11:41 AM
Your name is extremely familiar to me. Were you a frequent letter-writer to comics?
That would indeed be me. It's my ambition to be the Last of the Great Letter Hacks Who Become Comic Book Writers. Or something like that. There are some promising things happening, but.... it's all still tentative right now.
"churning butter queen?"
Somewhere, eyes dazzled by the fading dreamscape of mirrorball glints, Bert wakes up and looks around, thinking someone was calling his name from afar.
eh. .
I'm more of a "spit n shove" guy.
butter just makes the sheets messy (don't you remember all that explaining we had to do at the Marriott upon checkout Larry?).
Gail Simone
01-13-2007, 11:43 AM
Sheesh, in going through this thread and reading the "replies" "Rick Olney" is giving, I've come to the conclusion he's like the human (or something akin to human) equivalent of the Magic 8-ball....
You shake him up and you get the following answers:
Reply hazy, try again.
Better not tell you now.
Ask again later.
Concentrate and ask again.
Cannot predict now.
My sources say no.
Very doubtful.
My reply is no.
Outlook not so good.
Don't count on it.
Unfortunately, you'll never get these answers:
Signs point to yes.
Yes.
Most likely.
Without a doubt.
Yes - definitely.
As I see it, yes.
You may rely on it.
Outlook good.
It is certain.
It is decidedly so.
So I guess that makes him the ambiguous Magic 8-Ball...
"Note that if I stick my fingers in my ears I can't hear all the people I've cheated condemning my grotesque, pasty behavior LA LA LA LA!"
Gail
DocAbsurd
01-13-2007, 11:44 AM
Look what I found:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/DocABsurd206/sockling.jpg
Proof positive of the legendary Olney Sock Puppet.
Joshua Pantalleresco
01-13-2007, 11:46 AM
Look what I found:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/DocABsurd206/sockling.jpg
Proof positive of the legendary Olney Sock Puppet.
:eek: It's Alive! It's Alive! muahahahahahahahahahaha :rolleyes:
SUPERECWFAN1
01-13-2007, 11:51 AM
In an online world gone mad , where is Hayley to offer legal assistance to Rick to save him ?
Sarah Beach
01-13-2007, 11:52 AM
Sarah, you are so transparent.
Probably because I have nothing to hide. Unlike someone else who obfuscates everything around and about himself.
I actually have been identifying the people coming onboard at my company as "talent" in written worrd and contractual descriptive since day one.
Bully for you. Bet you thought it sounded cool. And it gives you a "basis" to deny that they are creating anything. Because "the ideas" are all yours. Well, let me clue you in, and this is standard in Hollywood: "Ideas", even good ideas are a dime a dozen; what counts is the execution, and there is legal precedent for ownership of material to go to the person who (uniquely) executes the idea, not the person who "came up with" the idea. You really should learn more about legal life in Hollywood, because all such decisions will be accepted as legal precedent for decisions relating to the comic book world.
Far as a fight over ownership. You need to study more.
Dear me, and what would you have me study? That you're talking out your rear end?
Cazekiel
01-13-2007, 12:11 PM
Stacy, you are so right. And you may be called to provide a deposition to what you saw and watched unfold here. Just so you know.
Boy, from what I can see, Olney is a jerk.
Oh hey, hold on, doorbell.
Goes to answer; finds a mystical looking fairy, wearing a sparkly gown and waving a magic wand topped with a mushroom. In her other hand rests legal papers.
"Teehee!" she says in a giggly, fairy voice. "I am Rick Olney's lawyer! Since you made two comments in the cbr thread, a place where anyone IN THE ENTIRE WORLD could comment in, you need to appear in court to testify about the things you've seen in an open thread that anyone IN THE ENTIRE WORLD could see, you troll!! TEEHEE!"
Watches the dumb, pretty fae creature flit off to the neighbors, because she told them about Rick Olney.
Subpoena the world, man!
Good God, you're hilarious. *troll and proud*:D
DocAbsurd
01-13-2007, 12:13 PM
During one of his 'somebody's-watching-me' posts last nite, he asked for forgiveness because of his 'thyroid acting up' (which, BTW, could also explain his erratic behavior).
Now, somehow, he doesn't equate that with seeking sympathy. He doesn't see that as him begging for forgiveness because of his 'extenuating circumstances'. Same with laying the blame for non-payment and canceled cons on various deaths in the family and his heart attack. 'Sorry I haven't paid you this year, but Fluffy, my bunny rabbit of 15 years, had pink-eye and so all my mailings have been put off.'
But my very presence on the forums is me seeking attention, me asking for hand-outs, me looking for the easy way out. Or in.
It's that bloody double-standard he waves like a flag. Everyone else is acting unprofessional by talking about what he's done, but when he strikes back with insults and innuendos, he's just defending himself. He believes himself innocent.
It's not just his actions; it's the self-justification, the way he demands we abolish him of his transgressions even as he continues to do the things he wants forgiveness for.
Jeff Brady
01-13-2007, 12:18 PM
That would indeed be me. It's my ambition to be the Last of the Great Letter Hacks Who Become Comic Book Writers. Or something like that. There are some promising things happening, but.... it's all still tentative right now.
Sweet! I wish you a whole lot of luck. I remember scanning the letter pages for your name because the letters were so good, and wishing I had been even half as smart.
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