Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[colleen]

No. The hold harmless is what my attorney requires for Ronee to get paid. I initially required her to sign her NDA and Contract, and I was corrected recently and told that a hold harmless will do, Colleen.

Amboy is not Colleen. Colleen is not Amboy.

My original post clearly noted that the NDA request had changed to a hold harmless order.

A hold harmless will do for the person who is concerned with being sued. It is not a requirement for getting paid, except when one's lawyer fears liability issues. Then the lawyer extorts the complainant for the hold harmless order in exchange for prompt payment.

Amateurs.


c

[Spackling Compound]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg

.

Maybe this is a caption the pic deal:

Gail: "So, yeah, we're here now. Had an interesting flight. And, weren't you gonna take us out to dinner? So...yeah...this is a table. But, dinner...where.."
Olney: "Wooop..gotta go. There's a John Byrne tribute show in the Mezz."
Gail's husband: "I just flew in from Oregon and boy my hands are tired..."
Girl: "I get the feeling the hairy guy is trying to see my underpants."

[Darediva]

Something funny going on between 1975 and 1977.



c

I've been gone a couple of hours, and find a huge bunch of pages, so I'm catching up.

Colleen, you are so right about how none of this adds up. I was in the Navy, and remember OrcaPoop making the remark that he was in the Marines when we talked on the phone (actually, HE did most of the talking). If he says he's 52 on his blog, you are correct about him being too young to have been in Vietnam. Even if he is lying about his age, which I have reason also to believe, he would not have done the hitch the way he keeps "rearranging" it.

About as bad as saying he was in several places in NC. If he was in the Marines, he would probably have been on Okinawa for at least six months, especially back then. Don't think he's added that to his score yet. Still...no MOS either.

More full of crap than a Christmas goose, it appears.

[DocAbsurd]

Heidi's smile doesn't seem to be directed at you. hmmmmmm

And what's with the mention of her unmentionables? Heidi was on my non-sucky panel for over an hour and I was impressed by her personality, not the color of her underwear.

That's you, Moby; class all over.

[TCJohnson]

You're still being allowed to post here? I can't decide if your lawyer is insane or just incompetent. Oh, but I GUESS I'LL FIND OUT, HUH?

I think you are making a huge leap of faith that he even has a lawyer in the first place.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Amboy is not Colleen. Colleen is not Amboy.

My original post clearly noted that the NDA request had changed to a hold harmless order.

A hold harmless will do for the person who is concerned with being sued. It is not a requirement for getting paid, except when one's lawyer fears liability issues. Then the lawyer extorts the complainant for the hold harmless order in exchange for prompt payment.

Amateurs.


c

Does everyone here know more than Rick?

Damn....

I want to tell him to shut up, but I just made popcorn.

[rummblestrips]

Trying to fob off more blame, Moby?

Sorry, I was in charge of 1 panel. 1. Hold up your middle finger and count. There ya go.

No-one said my panel sucked. If you'll take the time to re-read (sorry, in your case read for the first time), you'll see that Gail and JoAnne both said they enjoyed it immensely. And the few attendees agreed. Which means my panel didn't suck, despite my having a fever and the flu.

Sorry, Moby, what everyone was saying was that attendance sucked. There were more guests at the show at any one time than paying attendees.

Your promotion of the show sucked.

Tim, don't worry
The panel did not suck. I remember having a good time up there.
You know what sucked?

NO ONE SHOWED UP AT THE CONVENTION!!!!!!!!!!!

As for that pic of me.
I know my face.. I don't look happy, I look, "why is this guy taking a picture of me?"
BUT, on a good note, I did have a good time at the con, BECAUSE my adorable hubby was there, the SPA was right beside me and I met several really nice small pressers, (and GAIL too!)
Having a good time had nothing to do with Rick.

I'd post a more normal pic of myself, but all I have are picks of me in my stripper outfit (see Rick post wayyy back.)-rolls eyes-

[Papergirl]

Does everyone here know more than Rick?

Damn....

I want to tell him to shut up, but I just made popcorn.

You'll share that with me, right?

~Bev

[Rick Olney]

Mr. Olney, since it appears that you don't want to answer my (or anyone's, for that matter) question, I'll say this:

If it does, miraculously, turn out that you were indeed in the Marines, no one here has anything to apologize for.

I don't want your apologies.

People here questioned the veracity of your statements because, well, you don't have the best track record as to telling the truth, you were less than forthcoming with information that most veterans would have no problem recounting, and your story changed early and often.

Matters like this ALWAYS change as people better define what they experienced, truthfully, versus off-the-cuff verbal replays. I get defensive and stupid when attacked. I normally pull back. And I did. But I'm here now.

Don't attempt to push the responsibility onto everyone else.

I have not. I know where I'm responsible.

Personally, I cannot understand how you can refuse to pay people who did work for you.

I am not refusing. I simply can't pay certain talents on a story when one or two of the others have compromised themselves legally. My attorneyt is working to sort it out and any actions needing to be filed, shall.

Apologize to the people you have harmed. Then, maybe, you might be able to begin to claw back and reclaim some amount of dignity.

I shall when this matter reaches that stage.

Hiding behind an imaginary lawyer, claiming all sorts of NDA craziness, the whole lot of it ... stop it. It is indecent.

Well, contrary to what you still believe -- I assure you that my attorney is real enough. The NDA matter is not craziness. But, yes, there have been indecent parts. And for my part, I apologize.

[THEDOC]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg

Know who that is sitting next to me? It is "Gail Simone" along with her alter ego's husband, and my Uncle Heidi. (in her lime green undies) Sorry Heidi, I had to mention them. Sue me. :D

"Gail" has made a lot to do about nothing. Yes, it was a small event. But we covered all her costs except the monies she never sent the receipts in on her Saturday night meal ... and I believe breakfast the next morning, if it totaled $100 dollars. That's how I saw it then, "Gail" ... it is how I see it now.

I think they are there waiting for their money and Hedie was going to record this unheard of event!

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'd post a more normal pic of myself, but all I have are picks of me in my stripper outfit (see Rick post wayyy back.)-rolls eyes-

That would mean he demeans women.

And he said he doesn't do that.

Ergo, you are mistaken.

[Gail Simone]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg

Know who that is sitting next to me? It is "Gail Simone" along with her alter ego's husband, and my Uncle Heidi. (in her lime green undies) Sorry Heidi, I had to mention them. Sue me. :D

"Gail" has made a lot to do about nothing. Yes, it was a small event. But we covered all her costs except the monies she never sent the receipts in on her Saturday night meal ... and I believe breakfast the next morning, if it totaled $100 dollars. That's how I saw it then, "Gail" ... it is how I see it now.

Yes, but we've already established that you're a lying deadbeat idiot, right?


I can prove, in YOUR OWN WORDS, that you're lying, Rick. You never even paid for MY full airfare, let alone my husband, and everyone who attended knows you screwed up the meals so utterly that most of us paid for our own, and the whole 'receipts' thing is completely a retcon, which I can ALSO prove.

Sorry, but once again...I have every email you sent, Rick.

They prove you to be three things:

1) A liar

2) A deadbeat, and

3) An idiot.


Folks be sure and save this one, because it's exhibit A, as I can flat out guarantee you he can't back up a word he's saying. Not about the receipts, not about paying my husband's airfare, and not about the meals.

But I CAN prove he's lying now and was lying then.

Gail

[Papergirl]

I don't want your apologies.



Matters like this ALWAYS change as people better define what they experienced, truthfully, versus off-the-cuff verbal replays. I get defensive and stupid when attacked. I normally pull back. And I did. But I'm here now.



I have not. I know where I'm responsible.



I am not refusing. I simply can't pay certain talents on a story when one or two of the others have compromised themselves legally. My attorneyt is working to sort it out and any actions needing to be filed, shall.



I shall when this matter reaches that stage.



Well, contrary to what you still believe -- I assure you that my attorney is real enough. The NDA matter is not craziness. But, yes, there have been indecent parts. And for my part, I apologize.

*waves to Mr. Olney*

QUOTED!

~Bev

:D

[Koben Kelly]

If you're looking for an apology. Forget it.

See, Olney, that's the problem. No one wants an apology. What everyone does want is for you to pay up.

Your delusions that your career is not over are just that. Delusions fueled by denial. Everyone in the industry... everyone... knows about your business practices and habitual lying. If you think that any creator will work for you, that any store will carry your product, that anyone might not avoid you like the plague... you're perspective on reality is totally skewed.

Again, for anyone who wants to make their own variation on the PAY UP, RICK OLNEY t-shirts, the Spreadshirt site that a five-year-old could use to make one can be found here:

http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=35078&product_id=1356297&affiliate=2423

Gift your favorite comics creator with one at the next convention you go to!

---Koben:)

[Rick Olney]

Tim, don't worry
The panel did not suck. I remember having a good time up there.
You know what sucked?

NO ONE SHOWED UP AT THE CONVENTION!!!!!!!!!!!

We had over 600 paid entrants that day, as I recall.

As for that pic of me.
I know my face.. I don't look happy, I look, "why is this guy taking a picture of me?"
BUT, on a good note, I did have a good time at the con, BECAUSE my adorable hubby was there, the SPA was right beside me and I met several really nice small pressers, (and GAIL too!)
Having a good time had nothing to do with Rick.

It is okay to be bitter and not forgive. I understand.

I'd post a more normal pic of myself, but all I have are picks of me in my stripper outfit (see Rick post wayyy back.)-rolls eyes-

:o yeah... apologies. I know that you were not a stripper. Just a female doing her comic book creating thing.

[KevinTBrown]

A little too late to to apologize now, Olney.....

[DrewEdwards]

Why does he keep putting Gail's name in quotes?

[Gail Simone]

Maybe this is a caption the pic deal:

Gail: "So, yeah, we're here now. Had an interesting flight. And, weren't you gonna take us out to dinner? So...yeah...this is a table. But, dinner...where.."
Olney: "Wooop..gotta go. There's a John Byrne tribute show in the Mezz."
Gail's husband: "I just flew in from Oregon and boy my hands are tired..."
Girl: "I get the feeling the hairy guy is trying to see my underpants."

That picture reminds me what an ass Rick was to those girls who worked so hard on those costumes, AND what fun it was to spend time with Heidi.

She kicks ass. Rick IS an ass.

Gail

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

You have, however, by your own clear-as-glass claim, rerouted funds intended to pay people months ago--people who violated no NDA nor defaulted in any way--in order to go after others against whom you DO claim a grievance. We generally refer to that as "robbing Peter to pay Paul."

You're still being allowed to post here? I can't decide if your lawyer is insane or just incompetent. Oh, but I GUESS I'LL FIND OUT, HUH?

In his lawyer's defense (if he has one), I'm not sure they could control this guy.

JP

[Tobias March]

Why does he keep putting Gail's name in quotes?

He's just discovered what pseudonym means.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Why does he keep putting Gail's name in quotes?

He's a jackass.

[Papergirl]

We had over 600 paid entrants that day, as I recall.



It is okay to be bitter and not forgive. I understand.



:o yeah... apologies. I know that you were not a stripper. Just a female doing her comic book creating thing.

Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Matt Algren]

I was about to reply that your post didn't make a lick of sense, Rick, but I think I found what you were going for. (I'm chopping some of this for space.)
I've seen lies produced in this thread. Want to see one? Read on!

Now, I don't have the headers on this. I actually forwarded the earlier copy to my attorney with headers intact. This was what "Gail" wrote to Dennis Kininger in concern to her insisting that she rode in MY car back in 2003 (that this conversation is taking place is ridiculous, but...)

[I]Anyway, here's her reply:

Dennis,

I've said this I don't know HOW many times already, and it's sheer,
pure OLNEY that he didn't tell you I'd already shot this down several
times.

It was NOT you, it was NOT your car...it was RICK.

...

[still Gail] If you read the thread, you will see I said RICK and RICK's car, not
Dennis at all. When Rick twice tries to blame you, I correct him
FIRMLY twice.

<snip>

"Gail" would love to get between two friends. But in this case, it isn't going to work. I also have the truth about that rare odor that floated around the convention floor back in 2003 that Saturday. Read on:

Hi Rick,

Here's Gail's reply to me about my stinky car and, speaking of stinky,
while I'm on the subject . . .<a bunch of irrelevant stuff>
Correct me if I'm wrong, Rick, cause the last thing I want to do is misinterpret what you're saying, but are you saying that Gail was lying about whose car she rode in? I think that's what you're saying, but I think you're misreading her email. I think you think (I'm already confused) that when she wrote "It was NOT you, it was NOT your car..." that she was saying that the car she was riding in was not owned by Dennis, and that she then contradicted herself when she wrote "you will see I said RICK and RICK's car . . ." But that's not what she's saying. My reading of it is that she's saying "It was NOT you [who had BO], it was NOT your car [that had BO]..."

What is it that Bugs Bunny says? "Pronoun troubles."

Either way, you're really going to bypass all the bigger legal questions to dicker about what car someone rode in? Come on.

[Paul D. Storrie]

The NDA matter is not craziness. But, yes, there have been indecent parts. And for my part, I apologize.

Ding, ding, ding!

Who was it that initially proposed that he would come back, try and reply in a calmer and more rational manner (note I say "try") and then proffer an apology?

We have a winnah!

I generally try not to speak for others, Rick, but I'm guessing no one cares about your apologies at this point. They just want to be paid what they're owed and put this bad experience behind them.

So how skipping the sorry and moving right to the money?

PDS

[KevinTBrown]

Quoted!

~Bev

:D

Bev, the quoting queen. :)

[OzBat!]

Why does he keep putting Gail's name in quotes?Because Gail writes under a pen name, and Mr Olney likes to insinuate that that somehow invalidates both her opinions and her facts.

[Papergirl]

Bev, the quoting queen. :)

Just doing my part to make sure we get EVERYTHING he writes here. :D

~Bev

[kmeyers]

I don't want your apologies.
noone expects your apologies. Since you've been dodging for years. Sorry, but personal tragedy doesn't mean you don't have to pay people.

Matters like this ALWAYS change as people better define what they experienced, truthfully, versus off-the-cuff verbal replays. I get defensive and stupid when attacked. I normally pull back. And I did. But I'm here now.

Thanks for being here. How about you give the people you stiffed an answer, or answers as to why it was ok to deny them of what you promised...
I have not. I know where I'm responsible.

I suppose that will be your mantra.



I am not refusing. I simply can't pay certain talents on a story when one or two of the others have compromised themselves legally. My attorneyt is working to sort it out and any actions needing to be filed, shall.



I shall when this matter reaches that stage.



Well, contrary to what you still believe -- I assure you that my attorney is real enough. The NDA matter is not craziness. But, yes, there have been indecent parts. And for my part, I apologize.[/QUOTE]

We've reached that stage.

[sk716]

Okay.

Which one of you guys is Haylie, trying to fish for info on whether Rick had a lawyer -- and how crazy he is.

The name of the URL folder for 19 year old Haylie is "hayliesage". Haylie's Age?

This smacks of J-Bolted. However, no point in baiting the smelly caged monkey on this one, IMO. At this point, it's a matter of hiring lawyers and going after the sonofagun, isn't it?

Don't look at me like that, I've been screencapping erased posts all night.

[Cam63]

Boy, do I have some catching up to do since I last posted.

*Drains can of spinach beer and leaps into thread*

[bert]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg

Know who that is sitting next to me? It is "Gail Simone" along with her alter ego's husband, and my Uncle Heidi. (in her lime green undies) Sorry Heidi, I had to mention them. Sue me. :D

"Gail" has made a lot to do about nothing. Yes, it was a small event. But we covered all her costs except the monies she never sent the receipts in on her Saturday night meal ... and I believe breakfast the next morning, if it totaled $100 dollars. That's how I saw it then, "Gail" ... it is how I see it now.

you know what this proves?

this proves that you had a hell of a lot of nerve even making a crack about Gail's weight, you big, gigantic tub of shit.

no wonder you referenced "happy meals" earlier. . you must end up w/ the entire collection of toys every visit to Micky D's

[THEDOC]

Ding, ding, ding!

Who was it that initially proposed that he would come back, try and reply in a calmer and more rational manner (note I say "try") and then proffer an apology?

We have a winnah!

I generally try not to speak for others, Rick, but I'm guessing no one cares about your apologies at this point. They just want to be paid what they're owed and put this bad experience behind them.

So how skipping the sorry and moving right to the money?

PDS

I think others are right, someone is guiding "Rick"s hands on these posts! Hi Mrs. Olney.

[Darediva]

Who said I was trying to impress you? Who are you to impeach my honor?

I am actually 53. I was an E-4 in just 13 months, including basic and speciality training. I took my NCO training at Ona Point on Okinawa, and was TDY for 4 months, along with 2 months in Korea, 30 days in P.I., and I saw Japan several times on R&R. Got two Meritorius Masts, and was up for Sargeant twice. 'Course, I had so much salt that the Staff NCO's treated me like a Sargeant. Stateside, I was TDY last at Camp Elmore. I also ran dispatches from Fleet HQ there at Norfolk, VA. Beyond that, I am like anyone else serving in the Marine Corps during that period of time.

I will answer NO MORE personal questions.

Never said you were trying to (or did) impress me. Impeach your HONOR? I think you've done plenty to yourself in that respect.

I was an E-3 when I freaking enlisted, because of the rate I signed up for, and an E-5 within 3 years. So what?

You still have never said what your JOB was in the Marines. And I know you must have had one, Rick. I was a crypto maintenance tech. Guess if I told you any more I'd have to kill you. And I'm not even a Muuuuuhreeeeeeen.

[DrewEdwards]

Because Gail writes under a pen name, and Mr Olney likes to insinuate that that somehow invalidates both her opinions and her facts.

Huh?

Why would anyone think that? It's not like working under a pen name is an uncommon practice among writers. Even Stephen King did it for a while and he's debatably the most famous writer alive.

In the case of Gail, I'm sure she just wants to keep her privacy.

[Mark Waid]

I know where I'm responsible.

If there were any real justice in the universe, it would make it impossible for you to use the word "responsible" ever again, in any context whatsoever.

I am not refusing. I simply can't pay certain talents on a story when one or two of the others have compromised themselves legally.

If this is true--and (a) given my vast experience, it sounds like either a gargantuan dodge or a contract written so ineptly that it benefits no one on either side, and (b) at this point, I wouldn't believe you if you told me what hemisphere you live in--can you really, truly not see that if you HAD JUST FUCKING SAID THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, YOU MIGHT NOT BE THE SHAME DU JOUR OF THE INDUSTRY AND AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE COMING AFTER YOU LIKE A THRESHER COMING AFTER A GRASSHOPPER? Jesus H. Christ in a birchbark canoe, Olney.

And even if that IS what your lawyer is telling you, there is NO QUESTION--NONE--that you are MORALLY and ETHICALLY REQUIRED to APOLOGIZE and EXPLAIN YOUR ACTIONS to those who DIDN'T in ANY way "compromise themselves legally" and have nevertheless NOT BEEN PAID ON TIME.

[rexmundi666]

you know what this proves?

this proves that you had a hell of a lot of nerve even making a crack about Gail's weight, you big, gigantic tub of shit.

no wonder you referenced "happy meals" earlier. . you must end up w/ the entire collection of toys every visit to Micky D'sLMAO!?! zing!

[Rick Olney]

See, Olney, that's the problem. No one wants an apology. What everyone does want is for you to pay up.

Your delusions that your career is not over are just that. Delusions fueled by denial. Everyone in the industry... everyone... knows about your business practices and habitual lying. If you think that any creator will work for you, that any store will carry your product, that anyone might not avoid you like the plague... you're perspective on reality is totally skewed.

And this involves you how?

[colleen]

Does everyone here know more than Rick?



Well, I do.

Look a hold harmless agreement is the oldest trick in the book and I've been having bad clients pull this one on me since the 1980's, so I've been a few rounds.

With real professionals, I mean.

Basically, it's a form of settlement. The defendant is in trouble, or fears the cost of a lawsuit. Instead of going to court, but not wanting to admit guilt, he gets the complainant to sign an agreement that they won't sue, no matter what the defendant did. In exchange for this agreement, you get the money or property you are owed. Right now. No more muss, no more fuss. You don't get damages, you don't get your day in court, but you get what you need right now.

Happens all the time, actually.

While the complainant actually has a case, may actually have a GREAT case - as Ronee does - the cost and stress of the case may not be worth as much to her as getting her $800 now. Assuming the defendant actually follows through with his payment, satisfaction will have been asked and answered and that will end the matter, as far as Ronee is concerned.

It's the defendant's best course where ALL the creators are concerned. If he signs a release disclaiming all rights to the material, returns the material, and pays even a fraction of moneys owed, I bet every creator involved would sign a hold harmless agreement, and the defendant would get on with his life. And so would the creators.

After they sign it, that is it. They can't sue, they can't complain, they can't do anything. HOWEVER, because almost every miniscule detail of this matter is now a matter of public record, demanding confidentiality would be unrealistic, to say the least.


The defendant doesn't want to go to court on this one. It's the biggest loser I have ever seen.

Usually a defendant wants to follow this course because they fear a big court judgement and further public embarassment. Than again, it's doubtful the defendant in this case has any real assets to speak of. Moreover, he has to hold up his end of the deal and pay what he agrees to pay and do what he agrees to do.

c

[DocAbsurd]

600 paying attendees.

Let's do some math, shall we? Bear with me, I'll do the actual figures.

The show was from, say, 10 till 4. That's 6 hours. So 600 attendees divided by 6 hours of show gives us 100 guests an hour (don't worry, I'm not gonna tax you by going into how many per minute). Now, there had to be easily 50 guests at the show, between one major room, one hall, and the smaller room that the hall connected to.

So, 100 attendees divided by 50 guests gives us approximately 2 attendees per guest.

Now, that's not taking into account the various vendors who obviously vied for the attendees' attention and took away from other venues such as talking to guests, stopping in the panel, that sorta thing.

I haven't been to a lotta shows, but 100 attendees an hour trying to decide whether to talk to a guest, strike a deal for comics or sit down at a panel?

Sounds kinda sucky to me.

[Papergirl]

See, Olney, that's the problem. No one wants an apology. What everyone does want is for you to pay up.

Your delusions that your career is not over are just that. Delusions fueled by denial. Everyone in the industry... everyone... knows about your business practices and habitual lying. If you think that any creator will work for you, that any store will carry your product, that anyone might not avoid you like the plague... you're perspective on reality is totally skewed.

Again, for anyone who wants to make their own variation on the PAY UP, RICK OLNEY t-shirts, the Spreadshirt site that a five-year-old could use to make one can be found here:

http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=35078&product_id=1356297&affiliate=2423

Gift your favorite comics creator with one at the next convention you go to!

---Koben:)



And this involves you how?

Quoted!

~Bev :D

[Ronée]

If there were any real justice in the universe, it would make it impossible for you to use the word "responsible" ever again, in any context whatsoever.



If this is true--and (a) given my vast experience, it sounds like either a gargantuan dodge or a contract written so ineptly that it benefits no one on either side, and (b) at this point, I wouldn't believe you if you told me what hemisphere you live in--can you really, truly not see that if you HAD JUST FUCKING SAID THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, YOU MIGHT NOT BE THE SHAME DU JOUR OF THE INDUSTRY AND AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE COMING AFTER YOU LIKE A THRESHER COMING AFTER A GRASSHOPPER? Jesus H. Christ in a birchbark canoe, Olney.

And even if that IS what your lawyer is telling you, there is NO QUESTION--NONE--that you are MORALLY and ETHICALLY REQUIRED to APOLOGIZE and EXPLAIN YOUR ACTIONS to those who DIDN'T in ANY way "compromise themselves legally" and have nevertheless NOT BEEN PAID ON TIME.Congratulations Mr. Waid, you just gained a wonderfully obsessed fan (me), as if you did not have enough.

And no one is guiding him... this is just how he is, I have seen him do this to individuals over and over. he will make sense for a while then go apeshit and become very verbally abusive, he is also severely paranoid. Constantly he told me "trolls" were messing with his computer.

[kmeyers]

And this involves you how?

wow, there's one person who's not being screwed by your crap?

If your crap was any good, I'd throw you a bone, but you sir, you need to be shut down. I hope your Superheroes implode on you.

[Rick Olney]

If this is true--and (a) given my vast experience, it sounds like either a gargantuan dodge or a contract written so ineptly that it benefits no one on either side, and (b) at this point, I wouldn't believe you if you told me what hemisphere you live in--can you really, truly not see that if you HAD JUST FUCKING SAID THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, YOU MIGHT NOT BE THE SHAME DU JOUR OF THE INDUSTRY AND AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE COMING AFTER YOU LIKE A THRESHER COMING AFTER A GRASSHOPPER? Jesus H. Christ in a birchbark canoe, Olney.

And even if that IS what your lawyer is telling you, there is NO QUESTION--NONE--that you are MORALLY and ETHICALLY REQUIRED to APOLOGIZE and EXPLAIN YOUR ACTIONS to those who DIDN'T in ANY way "compromise themselves legally" and have nevertheless NOT BEEN PAID ON TIME.

Mr. Waid,

The matter is being handled as any legal matter would be handled. As far as me making apology, that'll come to those talents at the time when they're paid for their work on the book in question. Believe it or not, I am more interested in paying talent versus taking anyone into a court situation. But I'm not making that decision either. It is based on what has transpired, realistically, and to what degree one talent doesn't care to settle any way BUT a courtroom.

[rexmundi666]

Well, I do.

Look a hold harmless agreement is the oldest trick in the book and I've been having bad clients pull this one on me since the 1980's, so I've been a few rounds.

With real professionals, I mean.

Basically, it's a form of settlement. The defendant is in trouble, or fears the cost of a lawsuit. Instead of going to court, but not wanting to admit guilt, he gets the complainant to sign an agreement that they won't sue, no matter what the defendant did. In exchange for this agreement, you get the money or property you are owed. Right now. No more muss, no more fuss. You don't get damages, you don't get your day in court, but you get what you need right now.

Happens all the time, actually.

While the complainant actually has a case, may actually have a GREAT case - as Ronee does - the cost and stress of the case may not be worth as much to her as getting her $800 now. Assuming the defendant actually follows through with his payment, satisfaction will have been asked and answered and that will end the matter, as far as Ronee is concerned.

It's the defendant's best course where ALL the creators are concerned. If he signs a release disclaiming all rights to the material, returns the material, and pays even a fraction of moneys owed, I bet every creator involved would sign a hold harmless agreement, and the defendant would get on with his life. And so would the creators.

After they sign it, that is it. They can't sue, they can't complain, they can't do anything. HOWEVER, because almost every miniscule detail of this matter is now a matter of public record, demanding confidentiality would be unrealistic, to say the least.


The defendant doesn't want to go to court on this one. It's the biggest loser I have ever seen.

Usually a defendant wants to follow this course because they fear a big court judgement and further public embarassment. Than again, it's doubtful the defendant in this case has any real assets to speak of. Moreover, he has to hold up his end of the deal and pay what he agrees to pay and do what he agrees to do.

cLearning alot here tonight,I still highly doubt that there is anything under his name in Tightlip.

[Papergirl]

If there were any real justice in the universe, it would make it impossible for you to use the word "responsible" ever again, in any context whatsoever.



If this is true--and (a) given my vast experience, it sounds like either a gargantuan dodge or a contract written so ineptly that it benefits no one on either side, and (b) at this point, I wouldn't believe you if you told me what hemisphere you live in--can you really, truly not see that if you HAD JUST FUCKING SAID THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, YOU MIGHT NOT BE THE SHAME DU JOUR OF THE INDUSTRY AND AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE COMING AFTER YOU LIKE A THRESHER COMING AFTER A GRASSHOPPER? Jesus H. Christ in a birchbark canoe, Olney.

And even if that IS what your lawyer is telling you, there is NO QUESTION--NONE--that you are MORALLY and ETHICALLY REQUIRED to APOLOGIZE and EXPLAIN YOUR ACTIONS to those who DIDN'T in ANY way "compromise themselves legally" and have nevertheless NOT BEEN PAID ON TIME.

Mr. Waid,

The matter is being handled as any legal matter would be handled. As far as me making apology, that'll come to those talents at the time when they're paid for their work on the book in question. Believe it or not, I am more interested in paying talent versus taking anyone into a court situation. But I'm not making that decision either. It is based on what has transpired, realistically, and to what degree one talent doesn't care to settle any way BUT a courtroom.

Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[TomStillwell]

600 paying attendees.

Let's do some math, shall we? Bear with me, I'll do the actual figures.

The show was from, say, 10 till 4. That's 6 hours. So 600 attendees divided by 6 hours of show gives us 100 guests an hour (don't worry, I'm not gonna tax you by going into how many per minute). Now, there had to be easily 50 guests at the show, between one major room, one hall, and the smaller room that the hall connected to.

So, 100 attendees divided by 50 guests gives us approximately 2 attendees per guest.

Now, that's not taking into account the various vendors who obviously vied for the attendees' attention and took away from other venues such as talking to guests, stopping in the panel, that sorta thing.

I haven't been to a lotta shows, but 100 attendees an hour trying to decide whether to talk to a guest, strike a deal for comics or sit down at a panel?

Sounds kinda sucky to me.

Doc, do you remember how much that show cost for attendees? How much did retailers pay for tables?

[neko onna]

You know..this would make great TV

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2172/judgejudy4oq.jpg

[Koben Kelly]

And this involves you how?

Well, you've owed friends of mine money, made very personal insults towards them, and made legal threats towards them.

You also made someone very near and dear to me sit on a script he could have already pitched around and sold by now.

Lastly, you are an embarassment to the comics scene as a whole.

That's how I'm involved.

Thanks
---Koben:rolleyes:

[Matt Doc Martin]

Congratulations Mr. Waid, you just gained a wonderfully obsessed fan (me), as if you did not have enough.

And no one is guiding him... this is just how he is, I have seen him do this to individuals over and over. he will make sense for a while then go apeshit and become very verbally abusive, he is also severely paranoid. Constantly he told me "trolls" were messing with his computer.

http://www.spookstudio.com/images/photos/trolls.jpg

Such EVIL creatures!

[kmeyers]

Mr. Waid,

The matter is being handled as any legal matter would be handled. As far as me making apology, that'll come to those talents at the time when they're paid for their work on the book in question. Believe it or not, I am more interested in paying talent versus taking anyone into a court situation. But I'm not making that decision either. It is based on what has transpired, realistically, and to what degree one talent doesn't care to settle any way BUT a courtroom.

Poigniant Mcresearch. He's my friend.

[Rick Olney]

Yes, but we've already established that you're a lying deadbeat idiot, right?

Gail

Then why are you looking at me with a smile on your face? We had a wonderful chat that day. A person in the situation that you've described to everyone might smile at the camera ... but you are smiling at ME. Why? I know that it is because you had a great time. Yeah, the motel rooms sucked. But we tried to make up for it.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Then why are you looking at me with a smile on your face? We had a wonderful chat that day. A person in the situation that you've described to everyone might smile at the camera ... but you are smiling at ME. Why? I know that it is because you had a great time. Yeah, the motel rooms sucked. But we tried to make up for it.

"I know you said no. But My hips said YES!"

[Papergirl]

Yes, but we've already established that you're a lying deadbeat idiot, right?
Gail

Then why are you looking at me with a smile on your face? We had a wonderful chat that day. A person in the situation that you've described to everyone might smile at the camera ... but you are smiling at ME. Why? I know that it is because you had a great time. Yeah, the motel rooms sucked. But we tried to make up for it.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[TCJohnson]

Then why are you looking at me with a smile on your face? We had a wonderful chat that day. A person in the situation that you've described to everyone might smile at the camera ... but you are smiling at ME. Why? I know that it is because you had a great time. Yeah, the motel rooms sucked. But we tried to make up for it.

she was smiling for the camera but did not want to turn her back on you?

[Papergirl]

"I know you said no. But My hips said YES!"

OWWW! Dammit! You did it to me again!

:p

~Bev
Taking a break to clean tea off her monitor AGAIN...

[kmeyers]

Then why are you looking at me with a smile on your face? We had a wonderful chat that day. A person in the situation that you've described to everyone might smile at the camera ... but you are smiling at ME. Why? I know that it is because you had a great time. Yeah, the motel rooms sucked. But we tried to make up for it.

We smile because you're exposing yourself.

Captain Edity.

[KevinTBrown]

Then why are you looking at me with a smile on your face? We had a wonderful chat that day. A person in the situation that you've described to everyone might smile at the camera ... but you are smiling at ME. Why? I know that it is because you had a great time. Yeah, the motel rooms sucked. But we tried to make up for it.

Take a MUCH closer look at that picture. You can tell Gail, like Heidi, is not looking at you, but at what's going on off picture. And Gail already mentioned there were 2 girls in costumes there, that we cannot see.

Gail's husband is looking at you with daggers though.....

[Matt Algren]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg

Know who that is sitting next to me? It is "Gail Simone" along with her alter ego's husband, and my Uncle Heidi.I don't get the lime green undies part.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out the body language of the middle two people in the picture. They're both leaning forward with their hands clasped in front of them. (caution and protection) Forced smile from Ms. Simone, because that's what you do when someone points a camera at you. Meanwhile, Mr. looks like he wants to deck someone, but is too polite. Plus his wife would kill him.

You put this picture forward as proof that everything was fine three years ago, Rick. Judging by the picture, it wasn't.

(A couple pointers for the future: 1) When you're in charge of the whole shebang, dress appropriately plus 1. T-shirts don't cut it. and 2) Posture! You're "on" at all times!)

[Rick Olney]

Well, you've owed friends of mine money, made very personal insults towards them, and made legal threats towards them.

You also made someone very near and dear to me sit on a script he could have already pitched around and sold by now.

Lastly, you are an embarassment to the comics scene as a whole.

That's how I'm involved.

Thanks
---Koben:rolleyes:

No, you're not involved. You just feel like you're missing out on something if you don't bring your opinion to this thread. There are facets of truth to what you said, but I'm not the only person that created those scenarios. It takes two people hitting heads to make a bad situation worse. I've got no beef with you. If we were at a bar, you'd be exercising your beer balls. And we'd be taking it outside. Where one of us would impress the other. But how do we do that here? We can't. Nor would I based on the fact that THIS is a scenario thaer requires cool haeds and logical thinking. ;) As Ronee say's, "I have my haters."

[Mark Waid]

The matter is being handled as any legal matter would be handled.

Most legal matters are not handled by Lionel Hutz, Attorney at Law.

As far as me making apology, that'll come to those talents at the time when they're paid for their work on the book in question.

Oh, dear God. Here. Let me amend my statement slightly for the ETHICALLY IMPAIRED:

There is NO QUESTION--NONE--that you are MORALLY and ETHICALLY REQUIRED to APOLOGIZE and EXPLAIN YOUR ACTIONS IMMEDIATELY, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, to those who DIDN'T in ANY way "compromise themselves legally" and have nevertheless NOT BEEN PAID FOR SEVERAL MONTHS because YOU have abdicated your contractual obligations.

Believe it or not, I am more interested in paying talent versus taking anyone into a court situation.

Really? REALLY? That fucking stampede you hear over the horizon is posters rushing to re-post your flagrant bragging that, golly, you WOULD pay guys, but you're instead WILLFULLY using that money to sue OTHER guys.

But I'm not making that decision either. It is based on what has transpired, realistically, and to what degree one talent doesn't care to settle any way BUT a courtroom.

See, everyone, this is exactly the kind of statement that makes me believe that Rick finally DID go and hire himself one o' them big city law-folks, because that's how a lawyer would tell him to respond. Even though, of course, it's completely in opposition to previous statements he's made.

Amazing.

[Papergirl]

Well, you've owed friends of mine money, made very personal insults towards them, and made legal threats towards them.

You also made someone very near and dear to me sit on a script he could have already pitched around and sold by now.

Lastly, you are an embarassment to the comics scene as a whole.

That's how I'm involved.

Thanks
---Koben:rolleyes:

No, you're not involved. You just feel like you're missing out on something if you don't bring your opinion to this thread. There are facets of truth to what you said, but I'm not the only person that created those scenarios. It takes two people hitting heads to make a bad situation worse. I've got no beef with you. If we were at a bar, you'd be exercising your beer balls. And we'd be taking it outside. Where one of us would impress the other. But how do we do that here? We can't. Nor would I based on the fact that THIS is a scenario thaer requires cool haeds and logical thinking. ;) As Ronee say's, "I have my haters."


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[TomStillwell]

Then why are you looking at me with a smile on your face? We had a wonderful chat that day. A person in the situation that you've described to everyone might smile at the camera ... but you are smiling at ME. Why? I know that it is because you had a great time. Yeah, the motel rooms sucked. But we tried to make up for it.

It looks like she's smiling off in the distance with you looking at the camera. Only Gail's husband is looking at you. He doesn't look pleased.

[Rick Olney]

I don't get the lime green undies part.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out the body language of the middle two people in the picture. They're both leaning forward with their hands clasped in front of them. (caution and protection) Forced smile from Ms. Simone, because that's what you do when someone points a camera at you. Meanwhile, Mr. looks like he wants to deck someone, but is too polite. Plus his wife would kill him.

Funny, that isn't what impartial viewers saw. But anyway...

(A couple pointers for the future: 1) When you're in charge of the whole shebang, dress appropriately plus 1. T-shirts don't cut it. and 2) Posture! You're "on" at all times!)

Gee thanks for the tips.

[shanejayell]

You could USE the tips.

[Papergirl]

I don't get the lime green undies part.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out the body language of the middle two people in the picture. They're both leaning forward with their hands clasped in front of them. (caution and protection) Forced smile from Ms. Simone, because that's what you do when someone points a camera at you. Meanwhile, Mr. looks like he wants to deck someone, but is too polite. Plus his wife would kill him.

You put this picture forward as proof that everything was fine three years ago, Rick. Judging by the picture, it wasn't.

(A couple pointers for the future: 1) When you're in charge of the whole shebang, dress appropriately plus 1. T-shirts don't cut it. and 2) Posture! You're "on" at all times!)

Funny, that isn't what impartial viewers saw. But anyway...



Gee thanks for the tips.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Matt Doc Martin]

I don't get the lime green undies part.


He's a peeper?

[Matt Doc Martin]

You could USE the tips.

And a bath.

And a diet.

And a lawyer.

[AaronJ]

I don't want your apologies.

Nor was I offering any. I'm fairly certain that what I said was "no one here has anything to apologize for."

Oh, gee! Look at that: that's *exactly* what I said.

Matters like this ALWAYS change as people better define what they experienced, truthfully, versus off-the-cuff verbal replays. I get defensive and stupid when attacked. I normally pull back. And I did. But I'm here now.

Are you apologizing for your sexist and homophobic remarks? Will you apologize for them?

I have not. I know where I'm responsible.

Mr. Olney, you have done nothing but. And you know it.

I am not refusing. I simply can't pay certain talents on a story when one or two of the others have compromised themselves legally. My attorneyt is working to sort it out and any actions needing to be filed, shall.

I'm sorry, there is no possible way that all these different people could fall under that peculiar situation. No. Possible. Way.

There are, apparently, DOZENS of people you owe moneys to, for all sorts of various reasons.

Just pay them, dammit.


I shall when this matter reaches that stage.

No. How about now. How about pay people up NOW, and apologize NOW, and get down on your knees and BEG the entire comic book industry to even CONSIDER giving you another chance.

That is your only hope, and believe me: from what I can tell, it is a longshot.

Well, contrary to what you still believe -- I assure you that my attorney is real enough. The NDA matter is not craziness. But, yes, there have been indecent parts. And for my part, I apologize.

There is absolutely no reason to keep your attorney's identity a secret from those involved in this series of proceedings.

Lawyers are not spies. The reason no one believes you have a lawyer is because even in the cases of those people who are directly involved like Ronee Burgeois, you ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO REVEAL THIS LAWYER'S IDENTITY.

And for those of us who know lawyers, who have dealt with lawyers, who are lawyers, we find that extremely odd, to say the least.

And I would like you to answer my original question to you: Do you stand behind your comments as "orcafresh", or do you recant and apologize for them?

It's a simple question. Yes/No will do.

[Papergirl]

He's a peeper?

Ewwwwwwwww...


Nightmares for YEARS coming up now. Thanks. :(

~Bev

[shanejayell]

Or just be hosed dowm

And put out with the REST of the trash.

[Dedagda]

Well, you've owed friends of mine money, made very personal insults towards them, and made legal threats towards them.


Much Agreed.

[Gail Simone]

Then why are you looking at me with a smile on your face? We had a wonderful chat that day. A person in the situation that you've described to everyone might smile at the camera ... but you are smiling at ME. Why? I know that it is because you had a great time. Yeah, the motel rooms sucked. But we tried to make up for it.

Because, moron, no one was around with a camera the many, MANY times I opened your emails saying you were going to PAY me 'right away.' Or the time your credit card was rejected after we'd spent hours listening to your pathetic tales of brushes with people ten times more interesting than you. Or when I finally told you to stick the remainder owed up you know where because I was sick of being lied to.

At this point, I was still believing you were a well-meaning idiot, not the lying cheat you've revealed yourself to be.

See? It's easy when it's explained!

Gail

[Rick Olney]

Oh, dear God. Here. Let me amend my statement slightly for the ETHICALLY IMPAIRED:

There is NO QUESTION--NONE--that you are MORALLY and ETHICALLY REQUIRED to APOLOGIZE and EXPLAIN YOUR ACTIONS IMMEDIATELY, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, to those who DIDN'T in ANY way "compromise themselves legally" and have nevertheless NOT BEEN PAID FOR SEVERAL MONTHS because YOU have abdicated your contractual obligations.



Really? REALLY? That fucking stampede you hear over the horizon is posters rushing to re-post your flagrant bragging that, golly, you WOULD pay guys, but you're instead WILLFULLY using that money to sue OTHER guys.

I agree. In fact, emails to those talents will begin moving to them tomorrow.
This thread simply complicated matters right down to your very generous offer to cover any lawsuits sent my way, which I'm also figuring covered countersuits. Ever know a lawyer to not want to wait to see it all take shape first?

But it'll all work out.

[Papergirl]

Most legal matters are not handled by Lionel Hutz, Attorney at Law.



Oh, dear God. Here. Let me amend my statement slightly for the ETHICALLY IMPAIRED:

There is NO QUESTION--NONE--that you are MORALLY and ETHICALLY REQUIRED to APOLOGIZE and EXPLAIN YOUR ACTIONS IMMEDIATELY, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, to those who DIDN'T in ANY way "compromise themselves legally" and have nevertheless NOT BEEN PAID FOR SEVERAL MONTHS because YOU have abdicated your contractual obligations.



Really? REALLY? That fucking stampede you hear over the horizon is posters rushing to re-post your flagrant bragging that, golly, you WOULD pay guys, but you're instead WILLFULLY using that money to sue OTHER guys.



See, everyone, this is exactly the kind of statement that makes me believe that Rick finally DID go and hire himself one o' them big city law-folks, because that's how a lawyer would tell him to respond. Even though, of course, it's completely in opposition to previous statements he's made.

Amazing.

I agree. In fact, emails to those talents will begin moving to them tomorrow.
This thread simply complicated matters right down to your very generous offer to cover any lawsuits sent my way, which I'm also figuring covered countersuits. Ever know a lawyer to not want to wait to see it all take shape first?

But it'll all work out.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Matt Doc Martin]

I agree. In fact, emails to those talents will begin moving to them tomorrow.
This thread simply complicated matters right down to your very generous offer to cover any lawsuits sent my way, which I'm also figuring covered countersuits. Ever know a lawyer to not want to wait to see it all take shape first?

But it'll all work out.

Well, no one has SEEN your lawyer, peanut.

[kmeyers]

I agree. In fact, emails to those talents will begin moving to them tomorrow.
This thread simply complicated matters right down to your very generous offer to cover any lawsuits sent my way, which I'm also figuring covered countersuits. Ever know a lawyer to not want to wait to see it all take shape first?

But it'll all work out.
Like you work out in a gym...never.

[Gail Simone]

I don't get the lime green undies part.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out the body language of the middle two people in the picture. They're both leaning forward with their hands clasped in front of them. (caution and protection) Forced smile from Ms. Simone, because that's what you do when someone points a camera at you. Meanwhile, Mr. looks like he wants to deck someone, but is too polite. Plus his wife would kill him.

You put this picture forward as proof that everything was fine three years ago, Rick. Judging by the picture, it wasn't.

(A couple pointers for the future: 1) When you're in charge of the whole shebang, dress appropriately plus 1. T-shirts don't cut it. and 2) Posture! You're "on" at all times!)


As I said, my husband realized something was fishy when Rick lied about paying in advance, then paying when I got there. But he was utterly disgusted by Rick's obnoxious brush-off to the costumed girls. He has no patience for arrogance, and never again trusted a word Rick said.

He's awesome. And a lot less gullible than me.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

Mr. Waid,

What exactly do you have for breakfast? I think I need to get myself some.

[Rick Olney]

Because, moron, no one was around with a camera the many, MANY times I opened your emails saying you were going to PAY me 'right away.' Or the time your credit card was rejected after we'd spent hours listening to your pathetic tales of brushes with people ten times more interesting than you. Or when I finally told you to stick the remainder owed up you know where because I was sick of being lied to.

At this point, I was still believing you were a well-meaning idiot, not the lying cheat you've revealed yourself to be.

See? It's easy when it's explained!

Gail

"Gail" there is an answer for everything. Unfortunately, I don't have any more answers where this thread is concerned. I told you to bring it and you did. Now, unless there is anyone else hiding behind the curtain... Ralph Edwards style, we'll wait to see how this all turns out. As you're probably aware, this thread has been copied and has been evaluated pretty much daily. Not by me, although I took a little chewin' verbally here and there. Thus my efforts to remove my earlier posts.

[KevinTBrown]

Well, no one has SEEN your lawyer, peanut.

He had a meeting today.....

http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/C-Lawyer-Morally.gif

[Papergirl]

Because, moron, no one was around with a camera the many, MANY times I opened your emails saying you were going to PAY me 'right away.' Or the time your credit card was rejected after we'd spent hours listening to your pathetic tales of brushes with people ten times more interesting than you. Or when I finally told you to stick the remainder owed up you know where because I was sick of being lied to.

At this point, I was still believing you were a well-meaning idiot, not the lying cheat you've revealed yourself to be.

See? It's easy when it's explained!

Gail

"Gail" there is an answer for everything. Unfortunately, I don't have any more answers where this thread is concerned. I told you to bring it and you did. Now, unless there is anyone else hiding behind the curtain... Ralph Edwards style, we'll wait to see how this all turns out. As you're probably aware, this thread has been copied and has been evaluated pretty much daily. Not by me, although I took a little chewin' verbally here and there. Thus my efforts to remove my earlier posts.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[sk716]

...How about pirates attacking?


Gail

Hey, leave us outta this!!!

[shanejayell]

"Gail" there is an answer for everything. Unfortunately, I don't have any more answers where this thread is concerned. I told you to bring it and you did. Now, unless there is anyone else hiding behind the curtain... Ralph Edwards style, we'll wait to see how this all turns out. As you're probably aware, this thread has been copied and has been evaluated pretty much daily. Not by me, although I took a little chewin' verbally here and there. Thus my efforts to remove my earlier posts.


Or an attempt to make yourself look less bad, sir.

[AaronJ]

Mr. Waid,

What exactly do you have for breakfast? I think I need to get myself some.

We all do, TC. We all do.

[Rick Olney]

As I said, my husband realized something was fishy when Rick lied about paying in advance, then paying when I got there. But he was utterly disgusted by Rick's obnoxious brush-off to the costumed girls. He has no patience for arrogance, and never again trusted a word Rick said.

He's awesome. And a lot less gullible than me.

Gail

I was tired. At that time, I was having thyroid trouble off and on. I know some have made fun of my health, but it is as I've spoken of it over the years. Ask Dennis. Or maybe he won't tell you. I don't know. Anyway... you can continue to call me names. It'll work out.

[Gail Simone]

"Gail" there is an answer for everything. Unfortunately, I don't have any more answers where this thread is concerned. I told you to bring it and you did. Now, unless there is anyone else hiding behind the curtain... Ralph Edwards style, we'll wait to see how this all turns out. As you're probably aware, this thread has been copied and has been evaluated pretty much daily. Not by me, although I took a little chewin' verbally here and there. Thus my efforts to remove my earlier posts.

Scott Shaw predicted it, I repeat.

Fake reasonableness, followed by

Another Meltdown, followed by

Fake Contrition.


You've lied to me since almost the first moment I heard your name, Rick, and you've treated people whose feet you don't deserve to kiss like criminals for wanting YOU to keep your word.

So, you know, hell. Go there.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

"Gail" there is an answer for everything. Unfortunately, I don't have any more answers where this thread is concerned. I told you to bring it and you did. Now, unless there is anyone else hiding behind the curtain... Ralph Edwards style, we'll wait to see how this all turns out. As you're probably aware, this thread has been copied and has been evaluated pretty much daily. Not by me, although I took a little chewin' verbally here and there. Thus my efforts to remove my earlier posts.

I did mention that I have a buttload of stuff you have posted all OVER the internet, right?

And that I have been handing it out like candy?

Including to people using it for legal dealings?

Would your attorney like a copy?

[Papergirl]

As I said, my husband realized something was fishy when Rick lied about paying in advance, then paying when I got there. But he was utterly disgusted by Rick's obnoxious brush-off to the costumed girls. He has no patience for arrogance, and never again trusted a word Rick said.

He's awesome. And a lot less gullible than me.

Gail

I was tired. At that time, I was having thyroid trouble off and on. I know some have made fun of my health, but it is as I've spoken of it over the years. Ask Dennis. Or maybe he won't tell you. I don't know. Anyway... you can continue to call me names. It'll work out.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Matt Doc Martin]

I was tired. At that time, I was having thyroid trouble off and on.

Weight WILL do that.

Have your "attorney" stop treating you to Happy Meals.

Have a goddamn salad.

[Rick Olney]

Or an attempt to make yourself look less bad, sir.

I dunno. I have always thought that being responsible for what you say comes with the freedom to remove it should it offend you afterwards.

[Gail Simone]

I was tired. At that time, I was having thyroid trouble off and on. I know some have made fun of my health, but it is as I've spoken of it over the years. Ask Dennis. Or maybe he won't tell you. I don't know. Anyway... you can continue to call me names. It'll work out.

When you LIE right at me, and refuse to answer simple questions, you're still a creep, Rick. Did no one ever tell you that?

Did you pay ONE DIME towards my husband's airfare, Mr. Big Wheel?

Answer that.

Did you?

Gail

[colleen]

Well, no one has SEEN your lawyer, peanut.

In an earlier post he claimed he talked to someone who used to be a judge, I believe.

From the tenor of his posts this evening, he probably has talked to someone with legal training, but from the very fact that he IS posting, I don't believe he has a lawyer, yet. NO LAWYER would EVER allow his client to do this. Ever. He contradicts himself, and burns his case with every post.

I can't believe anyone would be this imprudent, but there you have it.

For his own sake, he really ought to shut up and get an attorney and let his attorney handle it. His attorney should write every single thing he says in public for the forseeable future.

I'd say this is career suicide, but he never really had one. Never seen anything like it, regardless. Well, not in public anyway.


c

[Mark Waid]

I agree. In fact, emails to those talents will begin moving to them tomorrow.

Good. I'm proud to hear that my points have spurred you on to more immediate ethical action.

This thread simply complicated matters right down to your very generous offer to cover any lawsuits sent my way...

If this is your way of intimating that laying down a threat that you're planning on suing me, just say so. If you're not planning on suing me, say so. A reasonable request, I'd think.

[shanejayell]

I dunno. I have always thought that being responsible for what you say comes with the freedom to remove it should it offend you afterwards.


Then you'd have to erase almost every post you make, I suspect.

[DocAbsurd]

Mr. Waid,

The matter is being handled as any legal matter would be handled. As far as me making apology, that'll come to those talents at the time when they're paid for their work on the book in question. Believe it or not, I am more interested in paying talent versus taking anyone into a court situation. But I'm not making that decision either. It is based on what has transpired, realistically, and to what degree one talent doesn't care to settle any way BUT a courtroom.

Look, Mark; he's calling you 'mister' now.

I'm sorry, but that just ain't him at the keyboard. Look at that sentence structure, look at the syntax, look at the proper capitalization. Unless the monkeys suddenly were possessed by the spirits of several authors, it just doesn't match how he normally types.

Speaking of paying talent . . .

I was never required to sign an NDA. Nor was Danny. Nor were any of the other columnists you had on the MMC. Where's my money?

You still haven't answered that.

[Papergirl]

Or an attempt to make yourself look less bad, sir.

I dunno. I have always thought that being responsible for what you say comes with the freedom to remove it should it offend you afterwards.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Matt Doc Martin]

I dunno. I have always thought that being responsible for what you say comes with the freedom to remove it should it offend you afterwards.

I have always thought you should stand behind what you say, and not duck the responsibility for saying it.

And if you fuck up, you apologize like a man.

Your actions were those of a coward.

You cannot UNSAY words.

[Rick Olney]

I did mention that I have a buttload of stuff you have posted all OVER the internet, right?

And that I have been handing it out like candy?

Including to people using it for legal dealings?

Would your attorney like a copy?

I'm sure that if he does... he can get it from your Public Defender in County Court there. :p

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Rick I mean this in all honesty.....lose the Lawyer. I mean he's not helped you regarding this matter at all. In fact I really don't understand why you ran to him in the 1st place. Its comics....odds are something will leak at times.

The lack of payment caused this Rick. Your actions in not paying these creators on a timely manner made this happen . They just didn't appear and try to take you down since their bored as hell. Or that they have a vendetta against Rick Olney. Hell I never really heard of you til it all came out.

You can still do the right thing finally. Theres time.

[Papergirl]

I did mention that I have a buttload of stuff you have posted all OVER the internet, right?

And that I have been handing it out like candy?

Including to people using it for legal dealings?

Would your attorney like a copy?

I'm sure that if he does... he can get it from your Public Defender in County Court there. :p


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'm sure that if he does... he can get it from your Public Defender in County Court there. :p

Uh-huh.


Would you like the number to the local sheriff's office?

Look at YOUR words in my signature.

This is me, calling you a liar.

(By the way...notice how this is a public message board? Bite me, doughboy)

[Rick Olney]

Look, Mark; he's calling you 'mister' now.

I have called many people by 'mister' in this thread even earlier.

I'm sorry, but that just ain't him at the keyboard. Look at that sentence structure, look at the syntax, look at the proper capitalization. Unless the monkeys suddenly were possessed by the spirits of several authors, it just doesn't match how he normally types.

Get off your phone, I'll call you. :D It is me.

Speaking of paying talent . . .

I was never required to sign an NDA. Nor was Danny. Nor were any of the other columnists you had on the MMC. Where's my money?

You still haven't answered that.

Rome wasn't built in a day, Tim.

[OzBat!]

Speaking of paying talent . . .

I was never required to sign an NDA. Nor was Danny. Nor were any of the other columnists you had on the MMC. Where's my money?

You still haven't answered that.Two years outstanding. Not POSSIBLY related to ANY kind of legal action over books not yet printed. Still not paid. And then being dragged into this mess without his permission.

Are you going to ask him to sign a "hold Harmless" agreement as well?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Rome wasn't built in a day, Tim.

No, but it WAS built. How? Well, people worked TO get it built. If they didn't, they died. (Well, the slaves , anyhow)


If they just TALKED a good game, there would be no Rome today.

Much like your payments.

[Papergirl]

Look, Mark; he's calling you 'mister' now.

I'm sorry, but that just ain't him at the keyboard. Look at that sentence structure, look at the syntax, look at the proper capitalization. Unless the monkeys suddenly were possessed by the spirits of several authors, it just doesn't match how he normally types.

Speaking of paying talent . . .

I was never required to sign an NDA. Nor was Danny. Nor were any of the other columnists you had on the MMC. Where's my money?

You still haven't answered that.

I have called many people by 'mister' in this thread even earlier.



Get off your phone, I'll call you. :D It is me.



Rome wasn't built in a day, Tim.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[AaronJ]

"Gail" there is an answer for everything. Unfortunately, I don't have any more answers where this thread is concerned. I told you to bring it and you did. Now, unless there is anyone else hiding behind the curtain... Ralph Edwards style, we'll wait to see how this all turns out. As you're probably aware, this thread has been copied and has been evaluated pretty much daily. Not by me, although I took a little chewin' verbally here and there. Thus my efforts to remove my earlier posts.

You continue to say things like "there is an answer for everything" or "we'll wait to see how this all turns out".

Man, I hate to just absolutely rip-off Frank Miller, but ... (oh, who am I kidding, no I don't)

WHAT, ARE YOU DENSE?! ARE YOU RETARDED OR SOMETHING?!

People did all sorts of work for you. Some of it was creative, some of it was pr, some of it was writing columns, some of it was ... oh who knows? "We'll see how this all turns out"?! WTF is wrong with you?

There is only one way for it to "turn out". You pay the people you owe. It's really simple. You owe people money. You pay them.

God al-freakin'-mighty. I realize that you are trying to be reasonable and calm and non-misogynist and non-homophobic, and I commend you for that. As I am pretty sure I said in this thread, I've had my share of meltdowns.

But can't you see how this "Let's wait and see" attitude is coming off as, AT BEST, passive-aggressive bs?

There are people here who NEED the moneys they are owed. Make things right, both by those people, and in the eyes of the world. No excuses, no bs. Just do what you KNOW you have to do.

[Rick Olney]

Well, no one has SEEN your lawyer, peanut.

Just as I am still waiting for legal papers to be served, Mr. Martin. Again, things take time.

[Paul D. Storrie]

I'm sure that if he does... he can get it from your Public Defender in County Court there. :p

Hmmm. I see the smiley faces showing up again. Seem to remember that they became more and more prevalent building up to the previous meltdown. I'm guessing it's only a matter of time until a repeat performance.

PDS

[Matt Doc Martin]

Just as I am still waiting for legal papers to be served, Mr. Martin. Again, things take time.

Please. Call me sir.

[Papergirl]

Well, no one has SEEN your lawyer, peanut.

Just as I am still waiting for legal papers to be served, Mr. Martin. Again, things take time.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Koben Kelly]

Much Agreed.

Apparently, Olney doesn't understand the concept of being involved via people you care about.

So, if I willingly refused to pay his close friends for property of theirs I took, if I made hurtful and personal insults toward someone he cares about, or if I caused a loss of money to someone he sees as a mentor... he wouldn't get involved.

Well, frankly, that says a whole lot about him.

BTW, Olney, you've been on my shit list since just before WWC. It has absolutely nothing to do with this thread... except maybe that following this madness for a few days has magnified my feelings by tenfold. If we were at a bar, and if I had been showing my beerballs, that shit you slammed Ro with about her recent divorce? Well, it wouldn't just be me stepping outside with you.

---Koben

[heystacy]

It's true. Near the end of my senior year in college, I fell asleep, and when I woke up I was working in the comics industry.

I still don't know how it happened.

kdb

You had Krispy Kreme, didn't you? :(

[OzBat!]

Just as I am still waiting for legal papers to be served, Mr. Martin. Again, things take time.Yet somehow, the events that occurred that triggered your massive race around the internet deleting everything you possibly could, seemed to happen quite quickly. A matter of weeks, not years. I'd talk to your attorney about his lack of forward momentum if I were you, it appears to be a problem.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Just as I am still waiting for legal papers to be served, Mr. Martin. Again, things take time.

Let me help you on something.

Ronald Rispoli is a friend of mine. He is a Police Detective in NY.

Here is his number: 516-573-6553

Call him. Explain how you are going to have me arrested.

Then listen to him laugh at you.

And would you like the name and number of MY lawyers?

[Rick Olney]

You continue to say things like "there is an answer for everything" or "we'll wait to see how this all turns out".

Man, I hate to just absolutely rip-off Frank Miller, but ... (oh, who am I kidding, no I don't)

WHAT, ARE YOU DENSE?! ARE YOU RETARDED OR SOMETHING?!

No, I am not retarded. Or dense, as you put it.

People did all sorts of work for you. Some of it was creative, some of it was pr, some of it was writing columns, some of it was ... oh who knows? "We'll see how this all turns out"?! WTF is wrong with you?

Nothing. It is working itself out each day. I have no doubt that some people will be upset. Still others will be satisfied financially and if all goes well I'll have a book to get published. I believe fences are being mended and by early next week everyone awaiting payment on the TOTS book should know where they stand with an apology and pay.

There is only one way for it to "turn out". You pay the people you owe. It's really simple. You owe people money. You pay them.

Yes. Exactly. This was never not a question of happening. It was just a matter of when I was told that certain aspects of this all came together.

But can't you see how this "Let's wait and see" attitude is coming off as, AT BEST, passive-aggressive bs?

There are people here who NEED the moneys they are owed. Make things right, both by those people, and in the eyes of the world. No excuses, no bs. Just do what you KNOW you have to do.

I am. I will.

[DocAbsurd]

Get off your phone, I'll call you. :D It is me.

Ain't been on the phone all night, Alexander. Oh, wait, I get it; that was yet another of your thinly disguised slams, this time against my being on the phone regularly with Daphne. Gotcha. Very clever.

Still waiting for another slam about my court case. 'If it's real', I do recall you saying.

Rome wasn't built in a day, Tim.

Nope, but $450 coulda been paid within a few years. Hell, $50 an installment coulda been paid monthly, as was our agreement.

[Larry Dixon]

Scott, Gail's husband, is a very strong and gentle man who chooses to be gentle. He is considerate because he knows that is the harder path. He is insightful, emotionally stable and analytical enough that he makes Joe Dubois from Medium look like Homer Simpson. And if Gail is a pistol, oh good freaking lord, he is artillery.

--------------

Anyone besides me notice that suddenly it's "those talents" and "the talent?" I don't recall Mr. Olney using that term at all before.

I've been working professionally in pretty rarified air for over 20 years and I've literally never worked with anyone who referred to human beings whose creativity and hard work ultimately put a roof over their heads and paid their bills as "talents." Not even at talent agencies. Every editor, director, AD or CEO referred to creative people by their names, or their work, and considered it a point of pride-in-workmanship that they had specific, distinct individuals, not just faceless workers from a corral.

The very biggest of the big shots, with seven-figure annual incomes and hundreds of employees, would never be so arrogant and dismissive as to use such a disempowering term as "the talent," if for no other reason than it would demean them as being unworthy of hiring name power.

-----------

Language is a hobby of mine, as well as a beloved profession. I'm always interested in the definitions and uses of words.

I am still curious about the specific definitions of "plebe" and "troll." It'd be good to learn.

[Papergirl]

You continue to say things like "there is an answer for everything" or "we'll wait to see how this all turns out".

Man, I hate to just absolutely rip-off Frank Miller, but ... (oh, who am I kidding, no I don't)

WHAT, ARE YOU DENSE?! ARE YOU RETARDED OR SOMETHING?!

People did all sorts of work for you. Some of it was creative, some of it was pr, some of it was writing columns, some of it was ... oh who knows? "We'll see how this all turns out"?! WTF is wrong with you?

There is only one way for it to "turn out". You pay the people you owe. It's really simple. You owe people money. You pay them.

God al-freakin'-mighty. I realize that you are trying to be reasonable and calm and non-misogynist and non-homophobic, and I commend you for that. As I am pretty sure I said in this thread, I've had my share of meltdowns.

But can't you see how this "Let's wait and see" attitude is coming off as, AT BEST, passive-aggressive bs?

There are people here who NEED the moneys they are owed. Make things right, both by those people, and in the eyes of the world. No excuses, no bs. Just do what you KNOW you have to do.

No, I am not retarded. Or dense, as you put it.



Nothing. It is working itself out each day. I have no doubt that some people will be upset. Still others will be satisfied financially and if all goes well I'll have a book to get published. I believe fences are being mended and by early next week everyone awaiting payment on the TOTS book should know where they stand with an apology and pay.



Yes. Exactly. This was never not a question of happening. It was just a matter of when I was told that certain aspects of this all came together.



I am. I will.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Matt Doc Martin]

No, I am not retarded. Or dense, as you put it.
I believe fences are being mended and by early next week everyone awaiting payment on the TOTS book should know where they stand with an apology and pay.


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[SUPERECWFAN1]

Let me help you on something.

Ronald Rispoli is a friend of mine. He is a Police Detective in NY.

Here is his number: 516-573-6553

Call him. Explain how you are going to have me arrested.

Then listen to him laugh at you.

And would you like the name and number of MY lawyers?

I hope your friend understand about you giving someone his number at 1:30am right now. :p

[Papergirl]

coughcoughcoughcoughcoughcoughcoughBULLSHITcoughco ughcoughcough

*hands Matt a cough drop*

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

I hope your friend understand about you giving someone his number at 1:30am right now. :p

Oh, I would LOVE for Rick to fuck with him. I am not a small guy, but he scares the bejeezus out of me.

And since I have Rick's home address and phone number, I double-dog dare him.

And that is his work number.

[Cam63]

I'm actually trying to sleep my way OUT of the business.

It's good to try new things.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Oh, I would LOVE for Rick to fuck with him. I am not a small guy, but he scares the bejeezus out of me.

And since I have Rick's home address and phone number, I double-dog dare him.

I can imagine to be in New York and be a Detective there. I'm sure its a hellious job at times and you gotta be tough to handle it. I always kicked around the idea of doing a super natural type Detective series. ( I won't go into details here but if anyone wants a PM I'd run it be them) ;)

[sk716]

Rick - you're ruining the show invites for the rest of us that work hard and pay our bills.

I've been inviting a few folks to do appearances and all I could think was "please let them trust this email after that Olney mess."

We were going with CAPE 3 - bride of CAPE. I'm liking CAPE 3*
*rick olney has absolutley nothing to do with our event. We've even urged Rick to pay his bills or at least apologize. Free magarita to the best rick joke! No NDAs were harmed in the making of this CAPE event.

That's never going to fit on the banner. :D

[Papergirl]

It's good to try new things.

Like, ohhhh, I dunno... Actually PAYING the people who did work for you? Or does that make too much sense for peanut to do?

;)

~Bev

[AaronJ]

I'm actually trying to sleep my way OUT of the business.
It's good to try new things.

I swear, when I read that earlier tonight, I almost died laughing.

[Rick Olney]

Let me help you on something.

Ronald Rispoli is a friend of mine. He is a Police Detective in NY.

Here is his number: 516-573-6553

Call him. Explain how you are going to have me arrested.

Then listen to him laugh at you.

And would you like the name and number of MY lawyers?

Oh, really...

Thank you. Maybe he knows my cousin Tommy Kalodes from the Manhattan Bureau? Tommy is retired now, after going over to the State Racing Commision to help manage security. He actually grew up right next to the Belmont Track. My Uncle owned the Belmont Dinner. Maybe Tommy knows your buddy, Ronald Rispoli.

Now, my cousin Dave is a State Trooper. He's going to be at my home here tomorrow night last I heard. I'll ask Dave. Dave's last name is the same as mine. He's a sharp guy. Well respected.

My brother-in law, Bill Chapple -- He's the father to the 26 yaer old niece of mine that died suddenly this past summer. He's also the son of my mother-in-law that passed. Bill came to my mom's funeral too. Bill actually is second in command at the local county jail here locally. I believe they call him "Chief" ... and I can telephone him and ask him if he might know of your police friend. I have a nephew on the Utica police force too, I believe. Far as friends in law enforcement, I've got a couple of those too. I'll ask around and give out that telephone number for Detective Rispoli.

So what does he have to do with you breaking the civil & minor criminal law in Florida again?

[Matt Doc Martin]

I can imagine to be in New York and be a Detective there. I'm sure its a hellious job at times and you gotta be tough to handle it. I always kicked around the idea of doing a super natural type Detective series. ( I won't go into details here but if anyone wants a PM I'd run it be them) ;)

Yeah..he has told me stories. Nice guy...very nice. But I saw him angry once. I am glad I was not the focus.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Oh, I would LOVE for Rick to fuck with him. I am not a small guy, but he scares the bejeezus out of me.

And since I have Rick's home address and phone number, I double-dog dare him.

And that is his work number.

Sounds like the type of guy who you screw with only once. Have fun.

JP

[wishlish]

I gave you more than that. Just understand that you'll feel awful after learning I was right and you were wrong. And, no, I won't told my breath for an apology. Some here I'll answer. Others I won't. No trolls.

Rick: I was one of the first people on this thread to question your military service. Your conduct on this board, on your MySpace page, and in every anecdotal record I've read indicated a lack of moral fiber and discipline. I've not known any person who's worked in the military successfully who hasn't had those characteristics (and my father and grandfather both served, along with numerous cousins and uncles).

If it is true that you did serve, and I have accused you of something that's not true, I apologize. It was not my intent to make you look worse than you make yourself look. I thank you for serving our country.

Having said that, you still look like a horrible businessman and human being in any intelligent person's eyes. I have no desire to play Q&A with you; I've long figured out that the answers are part of some game you're playing with yourself for no benefit for anyone. You've scammed freelancers out of an estimated $50-100K of work. No intelligent professional will work for you or attend a Mighty Mini Con. Your words have marked you as a liar, a cheat, a misogynist, and a fraud.

And Gail didn't do that. Chuck Dixon didn't do that. You did that to yourself.

I said it before, and I'll say it again. Your mother would be ashamed to see how you've conducted yourself. I'm surprised if your wife isn't.

[Mark Blicharz]

I can tell you one store that will NEVER carry anything Rick publishes. I know they won't because I OWN it. And I'm doing everything in my power to make sure no one in my area orders books he publishes. He's a liar, a cheat, and a piece of shit.

As for your whole military "career," who cares? Still doesn't change the fact that you aren't worth the air you breathe. I feel bad for everyone who's ever had business dealings with you. I feel even worse I knew nothing of your practices before two of my best friends got involved with you.

You will never sue anyone, you don't have the assets to sue. You have too much outstanding debt to sue. As for Ronee, she doesn't have to sign a damned thing to get paid, you admit she worked for you, you admit you didn't pay her, guess what, you have to pay her. It's time for your ass to put up or shut up. Your career is over. This thread needs to be linked to every comic book site on the planet so the word gets out even more about this loser.

[Ronée]

Me: Mr. Olney, you have said you would pay me if I sign papers that your "lawyer" drafted and I said fine, point me to that individual please...

Rick: NO! You go to HELL! You go to Hell and you DIE!
http://www.igrin.co.nz/petersim/images/garrison.gif

[Papergirl]

Let me help you on something.

Ronald Rispoli is a friend of mine. He is a Police Detective in NY.

Here is his number: 516-573-6553

Call him. Explain how you are going to have me arrested.

Then listen to him laugh at you.

And would you like the name and number of MY lawyers?

Oh, really...

Thank you. Maybe he knows my cousin Tommy Kalodes from the Manhattan Bureau? Tommy is retired now, after going over to the State Racing Commision to help manage security. He actually grew up right next to the Belmont Track. My Uncle owned the Belmont Dinner. Maybe Tommy knows your buddy, Ronald Rispoli.

Now, my cousin Dave is a State Trooper. He's going to be at my home here tomorrow night last I heard. I'll ask Dave. Dave's last name is the same as mine. He's a sharp guy. Well respected.

My brother-in law, Bill Chapple -- He's the father to the 26 yaer old niece of mine that died suddenly this past summer. He's also the son of my mother-in-law that passed. Bill came to my mom's funeral too. Bill actually is second in command at the local county jail here locally. I believe they call him "Chief" ... and I can telephone him and ask him if he might know of your police friend. I have a nephew on the Utica police force too, I believe. Far as friends in law enforcement, I've got a couple of those too. I'll ask around and give out that telephone number for Detective Rispoli.

So what does he have to do with you breaking the civil & minor criminal law in Florida again?


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I just wanna know....who do I gotta sleep with to get the hell into the business ? I mean I can drink myself under a table if it involved sleeping with Dan Dido I suppose. :)

[AaronJ]

Rick, are you going to pay Tim? Are you going to pay Ronee? Are you going to reimburse Ms. Simone?

Because, you have to understand, when you say that people will be paid in the next 48 hours, and yet you have such a bad track record, those reading comments like that are loathe to trust them.

[Rick Olney]

Scott Shaw predicted it, I repeat.

Fake reasonableness, followed by

Another Meltdown, followed by

Fake Contrition.


You've lied to me since almost the first moment I heard your name, Rick, and you've treated people whose feet you don't deserve to kiss like criminals for wanting YOU to keep your word.

So, you know, hell. Go there.

Gail

Well "Gail" all I can do is attempt to bridge what is between us. Then the rest is settled other ways.

[Cam63]

Jeez, an hour in and I still haven't caught up with Wick's posts.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh, really...

Thank you. Maybe he knows my cousin Tommy Kalodes from the Manhattan Bureau? Tommy is retired now, after going over to the State Racing Commision to help manage security. He actually grew up right next to the Belmont Track. My Uncle owned the Belmont Dinner. Maybe Tommy knows your buddy, Ronald Rispoli.

Now, my cousin Dave is a State Trooper. He's going to be at my home here tomorrow night last I heard. I'll ask Dave. Dave's last name is the same as mine. He's a sharp guy. Well respected.

My brother-in law, Bill Chapple -- He's the father to the 26 yaer old niece of mine that died suddenly this past summer. He's also the son of my mother-in-law that passed. Bill came to my mom's funeral too. Bill actually is second in command at the local county jail here locally. I believe they call him "Chief" ... and I can telephone him and ask him if he might know of your police friend. I have a nephew on the Utica police force too, I believe. Far as friends in law enforcement, I've got a couple of those too. I'll ask around and give out that telephone number for Detective Rispoli.

So what does he have to do with you breaking the civil & minor criminal law in Florida again?

No laws have been broken by ME, dipshit.

i don't owe any money to anyone.


I have no contract with you.

Your threats are as bogus as your company.

remember you said YOU ALREADY CALLED THE POLICE?

Remember every one else that knows law telling you you were talking out of your ass?

Remember how you were only "talking to me just this once...several replies to me ago?

[Jeff Brady]

That's never going to fit on the banner. :D

I work in printing. I'll make the banner large enough.

No, seriously. I'll do it.

[Papergirl]

Scott Shaw predicted it, I repeat.

Fake reasonableness, followed by

Another Meltdown, followed by

Fake Contrition.


You've lied to me since almost the first moment I heard your name, Rick, and you've treated people whose feet you don't deserve to kiss like criminals for wanting YOU to keep your word.

So, you know, hell. Go there.

Gail

Well "Gail" all I can do is attempt to bridge what is between us. Then the rest is settled other ways.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Yeah..he has told me stories. Nice guy...very nice. But I saw him angry once. I am glad I was not the focus.

LOL.....writes down name.....message to self : Do Not Screw around with that guy.

[JeffreyWKramer]

I dunno. I have always thought that being responsible for what you say comes with the freedom to remove it should it offend you afterwards.

Being responsible for what you say means owning up to what you've said, rather than trying to hide your misdeeds.

[Cam63]

I'm being told now that he was telling people we were great friends and that he could get interviews with me for them.

At that same time, I was telling him he was a lying cheating deadbeat.

Not only do I no longer think he was a marine, I'm not sure what SPECIES he is.

Gail

He's a fuck knuckle, aka " extreme wanker. "

[AaronJ]

Anyone besides me notice that suddenly it's "those talents" and "the talent?" I don't recall Mr. Olney using that term at all before.

[snip]

Language is a hobby of mine, as well as a beloved profession. I'm always interested in the definitions and uses of words.

I am still curious about the specific definitions of "plebe" and "troll." It'd be good to learn.

Quoted for the ever-lovin' Truth.

Sorry, just had to do that.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Me: Mr. Olney, you have said you would pay me if I sign papers that your "lawyer" drafted and I said fine, point me to that individual please...

Rick: NO! You go to HELL! You go to Hell and you DIE!
http://www.igrin.co.nz/petersim/images/garrison.gif

That Mr.Hat ....he really can't control Mr.Garrison. :D

[DocAbsurd]

Nothing. It is working itself out each day. I have no doubt that some people will be upset. Still others will be satisfied financially and if all goes well I'll have a book to get published. I believe fences are being mended and by early next week everyone awaiting payment on the TOTS book should know where they stand with an apology and pay.

Yes. Exactly. This was never not a question of happening. It was just a matter of when I was told that certain aspects of this all came together.

Here's where your problem lies, McSkinflint.

What about the creators who did work for you before TotS? Where do we stand? You gonna keep promising to fork over the sheckles for more recent projects while those of us who've been waiting a few years continue to sit idly by watching you recruit new unsuspecting creators for a project that potentially might just maybe pay off?

You have no doubt 'some' people will be upset. Glad you finally got that tetch of doubt cleared away in your conscience. But I need to make a couple points: 1) Little old ladies get 'upset'. I'm fucking pissed off. 2) You're gonna need a lot more wood than Yellowstone would ever be able to provide to 'mend' those fences. 3) Do you honestly believe, after the Olney Two-Step you've given so many creators for so many years, anyone's gonna believe a check you write isn't gonna bounce higher than a superball whipped off the top floor of the Empire State Building?

And make sure you wrap those apologies around a Tootsie Pop.

[Matt Doc Martin]

LOL.....writes down name.....message to self : Do Not Screw around with that guy.

I am tired of this jackass and all his threats and lies.


I say again. Fuck you, peanut. You don't like it? Go piss up a rope.

You insult women.

You insult comic professionals.

You insult friends of mine.

You insult me.

I am going to love watching you swing.

[Rick Olney]

Rick, are you going to pay Tim? Are you going to pay Ronee? Are you going to reimburse Ms. Simone?

"Gail Simone" is able to accept payments. Well, unless they're cash. And I'm not sending cash. So I'll have to ask my attorney about how she figures into all this. Last I knew from 2003 -- She had a claim of $100 dollars that she never sent a receipt in on to be reimbursed. No receipt came in. No monies went out.

Tim Tolbolski has said a bit of stuff that needs to get sorted out.

Ronee can be paid once I hear from her on the signing of a hold harmless release.

[kmeyers]

You keep sinking yourself further, but still no mentions of the legitimate questions you said you would answer.

[Rick Olney]

You keep sinking yourself further, but still no mentions of the legitimate questions you said you would answer.

Such as? Can you go into more detail?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Ronee...take Mr. Waid's help and NAIL this fucker.

Please.

[Papergirl]

Rick, are you going to pay Tim? Are you going to pay Ronee? Are you going to reimburse Ms. Simone?

Because, you have to understand, when you say that people will be paid in the next 48 hours, and yet you have such a bad track record, those reading comments like that are loathe to trust them.

"Gail Simone" is able to accept payments. Well, unless they're cash. And I'm not sending cash. So I'll have to ask my attorney about how she figures into all this. Last I knew from 2003 -- She had a claim of $100 dollars that she never sent a receipt in on to be reimbursed. No receipt came in. No monies went out.

Tim Tolbolski has said a bit of stuff that needs to get sorted out.

Ronee can be paid once I hear from her on the signing of a hold harmless release.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[kmeyers]

"Gail Simone" is able to accept payments. Well, unless they're cash. And I'm not sending cash. So I'll have to ask my attorney about how she figures into all this. Last I knew from 2003 -- She had a claim of $100 dollars that she never sent a receipt in on to be reimbursed. No receipt came in. No monies went out.

Tim Tolbolski has said a bit of stuff that needs to get sorted out.

Ronee can be paid once I hear from her on the signing of a hold harmless release.
That's hilarious. She only accepts cash, because your checks bounce like Plasticman.

[Wil Radcliffe]

What about the return of Blake Petit's intellectual property?

[AaronJ]

Well "Gail" all I can do is attempt to bridge what is between us. Then the rest is settled other ways.

See, this is the thing, Rick. When you keep referring to Ms. Simone as "Gail", people are not going to believe that you have changed one iota.

Why don't you refer to her as Ms. Simone, or as Gail? Why don't you apologize for all the horrible things you said?

If you started on that path, instead of trying to continue to be a smartass, people *might* begin to think you have turned over a new leaf.

[Koben Kelly]

Me: Mr. Olney, you have said you would pay me if I sign papers that your "lawyer" drafted and I said fine, point me to that individual please...

Rick: NO! You go to HELL! You go to Hell and you DIE!
http://www.igrin.co.nz/petersim/images/garrison.gif

Ronee: Can you give me the phone number for your lawyer?

Rick: No, but I can tell you I plead the fizzifth!

---Koben:D

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I am tired of this jackass and all his threats and lies.


I say again. Fuck you, peanut. You don't like it? Go piss up a rope.

You insult women.

You insult comic professionals.

You insult friends of mine.

You insult me.

I am going to love watching you swing.

Writes down other note....do not screw with Matt Doc Martin eithor. :)

[Papergirl]

You keep sinking yourself further, but still no mentions of the legitimate questions you said you would answer.

Such as? Can you go into more detail?


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[JeffreyWKramer]

Rome wasn't built in a day, Tim.

We're not talking about anything the size of building Rome, nor are we talking about a day. Lots and lots of days have gone by without you paying your debts. We're not talking about you being only a few days behind.

Honorable people pay their debts. They make schedules to do so, and stick with them. They apologize. They skimp on things until they pay off what they owe. They also don't lie, and don't dodge direct questions, and don't hide between ridiculous quasi-legalistic bullshit in the name of "business."

If you had any sense of honor, people would already be paid, or you'd long ago have made arrangements to do so.

[Rick Olney]

I am going to love watching you swing.

Only, if you're hanging out at the gym I belong to, mister.

[wishlish]

I dunno. I have always thought that being responsible for what you say comes with the freedom to remove it should it offend you afterwards.

Absolutely untrue. If you're going to take responsibility for what you've said, let it stand out there. By erasing them (or, in your case, unsuccessfully trying to), you look like a weasel, and you do more harm than good.

[Ronée]

Ronee...take Mr. Waid's help and NAIL this fucker.

Please.
oh I am do far better things at the moment... you know.. talking to newspapers and television stations in upstate new york.

[TomStillwell]

I just wanna know....who do I gotta sleep with to get the hell into the business ? I mean I can drink myself under a table if it involved sleeping with Dan Dido I suppose. :)

Hey! You get your own IN! That's mine!

[Papergirl]

I am tired of this jackass and all his threats and lies.


I say again. Fuck you, peanut. You don't like it? Go piss up a rope.

You insult women.

You insult comic professionals.

You insult friends of mine.

You insult me.

I am going to love watching you swing.

Only, if you're hanging out at the gym I belong to, mister.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[kmeyers]

Such as? Can you go into more detail?

Check back on this thread, the details, and links are everywhere...

Keep pretending to be aloof, though. Awesome defense. Run away doesn't work in court very well.

[Cam63]

Is it just me, or has his ( Olney's ) scanner been down a long time?

Is that a metaphor ?

[Rick Olney]

Quoted!

~Bev

:D

Thank you, Bev. I appreciate your efforts here. But then I was told that they'd be useful.

[Papergirl]

Thank you, Bev. I appreciate your efforts here. But then I was told that they'd be useful.

Useful for you burying yourself even further. Enjoy your freedom while you can! :)

~Bev

[AaronJ]

Hey! You get your own IN! That's mine!

I was gonna say ... I'm fairly certain that Tom said something about "saving his man cherry" or somesuch for DiDio. :)

[Rick Olney]

Check back on this thread, the details, and links are everywhere...

Keep pretending to be aloof, though. Awesome defense. Run away doesn't work in court very well.

Oh, man... I'm not going back through all those nonsense posts. It was hard enough just reading to catch up. I'm not aloof. Nor do I plan on running anywhere. I'll leave the post running down and playing connect the dots to the law clerks.

[DocAbsurd]

Tim Tolbolski has said a bit of stuff that needs to get sorted out.

You gonna try to stiff me again, Trump? More threats? Wassa matter, Moby, did I reveal too much without your precious NDA intact?

Oh, you might wanna try spelling my damn name right for a change. Oh, that's right; you've never actually had to spell it out on anything important, like a check for $450.

And your accusations about my personal trauma being fabricated has also been entered into the record.

[kmeyers]

Only, if you're hanging out at the gym I belong to, mister.

So you train...for real? Lets have a display of skills. For charity.

[AaronJ]

Thank you, Bev. I appreciate your efforts here. But then I was told that they'd be useful.

Seriously, I want to know:

Do you not *realize* how much of a jackass you are?

or

Do you just not *care*?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Only, if you're hanging out at the gym I belong to, mister.


You?


GO TO A GYM?


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And again, Call me sir.

[Papergirl]

Check back on this thread, the details, and links are everywhere...

Keep pretending to be aloof, though. Awesome defense. Run away doesn't work in court very well.

Oh, man... I'm not going back through all those nonsense posts. It was hard enough just reading to catch up. I'm not aloof. Nor do I plan on running anywhere. I'll leave the post running down and playing connect the dots to the law clerks.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[TomStillwell]

I was gonna say ... I'm fairly certain that Tom said something about "saving his man cherry" or somesuch for DiDio. :)

Hell yeah! It's not like I have any talent to get me in there.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Hey! You get your own IN! That's mine!

Hands off my man ! He's got that porno mustache ! And you don't find many men with the porno mustache.

[Rick Olney]

Useful for you burying yourself even further. Enjoy your freedom while you can! :)

~Bev

Maybe... or even requiring you to provide said quotes in a court possibly.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Only, if you're hanging out at the gym I belong to, mister. I hope for your sake you never meet this guy in public. From the way he's sounding, it would only be a one time meeting.

JP

[Matt Doc Martin]

oh I am do far better things at the moment... you know.. talking to newspapers and television stations in upstate new york.

Yeah...i wonder how that is going.

Any word?

[kmeyers]

Oh, man... I'm not going back through all those nonsense posts. It was hard enough just reading to catch up. I'm not aloof. Nor do I plan on running anywhere. I'll leave the post running down and playing connect the dots to the law clerks.

You don't remember your own words? I'm no law clerk.
But...
I'm pretty sure it was about you sounding tough and declaring anytime anywhere, anyone...

[rexmundi666]

Hands off my man ! He's got that porno mustache ! And you don't find many men with the porno mustache.Not if I beat ya to him first!:evilsmile

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I was gonna say ... I'm fairly certain that Tom said something about "saving his man cherry" or somesuch for DiDio. :)

Really ? Damn......I'm not a guy who usually runs to steal another guys shot. I wonder if Joe Quesada will grow a mustache like The Dido ?

[Wil Radcliffe]

Rick, do you plan to return Blake Petit's intellectual property?

[DocAbsurd]

Thank you, Bev. I appreciate your efforts here. But then I was told that they'd be useful.

Red Alert! Red Alert!

Thinly Veiled Sexist Insult at 2 o'clock!

We have meltdown! Repeat, we have meltdown!

[Koben Kelly]

Hey, Matt.

Glad you liked the Spreadshirt site so much you made a link!

---Koben:)

[AaronJ]

Maybe... or even requiring you to provide said quotes in a court possibly.

What PLANET do you think you're on?!

I don't know if you are overwhelmed with "Matlock" repeats, or what. But THAT. IS. NOT. HOW. THE. LAW. WORKS.

Get a grip.

Oh, and apologize. That's what you REALLY need to do.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Rick, do you plan to return Blake Petit's intellectual property?

And while you're at it, why don't you just directly and honestly answer the plane ticket question?

[Papergirl]

Maybe... or even requiring you to provide said quotes in a court possibly.

No need. I stand by what *I* say. And, when/if I am wrong, I don't try to cover it up, but instead take my dues, apologize and move on. YOU can't say the same, Mr. Delet-o-matic.

~Bev
Who has never once deleted anything she's said.

[Rick Olney]

Because Gail writes under a pen name, and Mr Olney likes to insinuate that that somehow invalidates both her opinions and her facts.

No, that isn't the reason at all. "Gail Simone" is a non-person, and as such while being a pen name for "Gail's" real person, meaning herself, I'm merely noting that "she" isn't real.

[AaronJ]

Hell yeah! It's not like I have any talent to get me in there.

Now, now ... I've heard quite the opposite.

[Cam63]

Semper Fi!

Tom

Thanks again, Tom and please stick around.

Same goes for the rest of you.

[Ronée]

Yeah...i wonder how that is going.

Any word?great progress is being made, and I am a tenacious little monkey....
http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v95/rob_24_7/evil-monkey.jpg

[Papergirl]

Because Gail writes under a pen name, and Mr Olney likes to insinuate that that somehow invalidates both her opinions and her facts.

No, that isn't the reason at all. "Gail Simone" is a non-person, and as such while being a pen name for "Gail's" real person, meaning herself, I'm merely noting that "she" isn't real.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Matt Doc Martin]

I hope for your sake you never meet this guy in public. From the way he's sounding, it would only be a one time meeting.

JP

I want it to be made VERY clear. I have never threatened Rick Olney on this board, or in any of our communications. (Which I have copies of ALL, both ways)

That being said, he says he has a "surprise' for me at MegaCon, and that "I'd be lucky to be standing" if I approached him.

I will say, that I would defend myself in no uncertain terms if I was assaulted, and that I doubt he would go to MegaCon this year, much less come up to me.


Or say ANY of the shit he has if he wasn't safe behind a keyboard. But he would not say that to anyone, unless he was safe behind a keyboard.

[AaronJ]

No, that isn't the reason at all. "Gail Simone" is a non-person, and as such while being a pen name for "Gail's" real person, meaning herself, I'm merely noting that "she" isn't real.

Have you completely lost what little is left of your mind?

So, Mark Twain wasn't a real person? Huh?!

[JeffreyWKramer]

No, that isn't the reason at all. "Gail Simon" is a non-person, and as such while being a pen name for "Gail's" real person, meaning herself, I'm merely noting that "she" isn't real.

And this is all completely irrelevant. Lots of people use pen names or stage names, and this doesn't change their legal status one bit. It's a non issue.

But anyhow, again... did you or did you not pay part of the plane fare for the husband of that real person that uses the pen name "Gail?"

[Rick Olney]

wow, there's one person who's not being screwed by your crap?

If your crap was any good, I'd throw you a bone, but you sir, you need to be shut down. I hope your Superheroes implode on you.

Isn't going to happen. But thank you for your sincere sentiment. It is so rare to find that these days online.

[Cam63]

No, that isn't the reason at all. "Gail Simone" is a non-person, and as such while being a pen name for "Gail's" real person, meaning herself, I'm merely noting that "she" isn't real.

Are you a gifted fuckwit or do you have to work hard at it ?

[Sarah Beach]

Me... chosing to remove my posts here should be perfectly fine. ANYONE can do it. There is nothing written that says a person can't.

Okay, although I'm still reading way back on page 423 (I think), this is so silly, I had to comment.

To equate an attempt to delete every single post with the practice of deleting text of posts that are duplicate, or off point, seems disingenius to me. Although the comment is obviously made in the "reasonable, logical" tone of voice, there's a certain mental misstep here. The whole point of posting anywhere is the public conversation. Deleting whole passages of it is a futile attempt to "unmake" things that were said.

Okay... I'm not going to ask anything at this point, because I still have so many pages to read, and maybe someone else will ask the questions I would. I'm saying that, because I wouldn't want to let Mr. Olney make the assumption that I'm afraid to ask questions in the face of his "bold return". Heh.

[Papergirl]

wow, there's one person who's not being screwed by your crap?

If your crap was any good, I'd throw you a bone, but you sir, you need to be shut down. I hope your Superheroes implode on you.

Isn't going to happen. But thank you for your sincere sentiment. It is so rare to find that these days online.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[SUPERECWFAN1]

No, that isn't the reason at all. "Gail Simone" is a non-person, and as such while being a pen name for "Gail's" real person, meaning herself, I'm merely noting that "she" isn't real.

Then who was that in the picture ? Ohhh christ she's a zombie. Holy shit......were doomed. RRRRRRUUUUUNNN GET THE CHILDREN TO SAFETY!!!! :p

[Matt Doc Martin]

great progress is being made, and I am a tenacious little monkey....
http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v95/rob_24_7/evil-monkey.jpg

And I am an angry monkey.

Again, I will help in any way I can. Just say the word.

[AaronJ]

I want it to be made VERY clear. I have never threatened Rick Olney on this board, or in any of our communications. (Which I have copies of ALL, both ways)

I've read this whole thread, and I agree.

What is even more bizarre, however, is that Mr. Olney HAS in fact threatened all sorts of people.

[DocAbsurd]

No, that isn't the reason at all. "Gail Simone" is a non-person, and as such while being a pen name for "Gail's" real person, meaning herself, I'm merely noting that "she" isn't real.

So, you invited a non-person to a show, you were sitting next to a non-person in that picture, and you've been arguing with and harassing a non-person for the past 3 years.

Kinda means you've been living a non-life. 'Course, that kinda goes hand-in-hand with all your non-conventions, non-comics and non-payments.

[Rick Olney]

Absolutely untrue. If you're going to take responsibility for what you've said, let it stand out there. By erasing them (or, in your case, unsuccessfully trying to), you look like a weasel, and you do more harm than good.

I only look like a weasel because you're conditioned after so many posts to be wanting a weasel.

[Paul D. Storrie]

What about the return of Blake Petit's intellectual property?

I'm not a copyright or contract expert, but chances are there's no "return" involved. From what's been indicated in this thread, Olney the Lonely has never lived up to his side of the contract. The agreement sounds like it originally (remember, Mr. P mentioned that he signed a revised version that included a clause indicating he retained his rights) included an exchange of rights for compensation. As compensation never occurred, there should be no transfer.

While it would still be worthwhile for Blake (or Ronee, as his manager) to consult an Intellectual Property lawyer regarding the contract, it seems pretty clear that a) Mr. P didn't sign anything that transferred his rights and b) RO didn't live up to his end of the bargain anyway.

PDS

[kmeyers]

Maybe... or even requiring you to provide said quotes in a court possibly.

You are so fucked. Your understanding of reality is so hilarious. Good luck with your imaginary legal briefing tomorrow.

You can't delete your court responses. Someone else is typing that crazy shit down.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Hands off my man ! He's got that porno mustache ! And you don't find many men with the porno mustache. There's only one civilized way for you two to settle this...

JP

[AaronJ]

So, you invited a non-person to a show, you were sitting next to a non-person in that picture, and you've been arguing with and harassing a non-person for the past 3 years.

Kinda means you've been living a non-life. 'Course, that kinda goes hand-in-hand with all your non-conventions, non-comics and non-payments.

OUCH.

That's all I have to add. But just felt it needed to be said.

(Well done, Doc.)

[Papergirl]

Absolutely untrue. If you're going to take responsibility for what you've said, let it stand out there. By erasing them (or, in your case, unsuccessfully trying to), you look like a weasel, and you do more harm than good.

I only look like a weasel because you're conditioned after so many posts to be wanting a weasel.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[kmeyers]

There's only one civilized way for you two to settle this...

JP

I already proposed THUNDERDOME for charity.

[Cam63]

You know, it's interesting. If you do a search on "Rick Olney," it's almost nothing but discredited bullshit and sites that are condemning him for the liar and deadbeat he is.

Wouldn't that depress a normal person, that the world KNOWS you're a deadbeat who cheats honest artists and retailers?

Gail

I did a Google search last night.

Dedicated mimes laughed out loud.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I've read this whole thread, and I agree.

What is even more bizarre, however, is that Mr. Olney HAS in fact threatened all sorts of people.

Legally and physically, yes.

[Rick Olney]

I want it to be made VERY clear. I have never threatened Rick Olney on this board, or in any of our communications. (Which I have copies of ALL, both ways)

That being said, he says he has a "surprise' for me at MegaCon, and that "I'd be lucky to be standing" if I approached him.

I will say, that I would defend myself in no uncertain terms if I was assaulted, and that I doubt he would go to MegaCon this year, much less come up to me.


Or say ANY of the shit he has if he wasn't safe behind a keyboard. But he would not say that to anyone, unless he was safe behind a keyboard.

You're a done deal, Matt. Matter of time.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Hell yeah! It's not like I have any talent to get me in there.

He lies! He's as good as anybody I've seen. Seriously, check out his Honor Brigade. One of the best comics I've read this year.

JP

[Cam63]

I only look like a weasel because you're conditioned after so many posts to be wanting a weasel.

Good luck in jail, fuck knuckle.

[sk716]

I have always thought you should stand behind what you say, and not duck the responsibility for saying it.

And if you fuck up, you apologize like a man.

Your actions were those of a coward.

You cannot UNSAY words.

Especially when people have copies... oh, lookie what we have here... Copies of most of the erased posts in a convenient, easy to read format. Also, numbered to the correct post number.

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/olney/post-caps/

Only 25 more erased posts to recover.

Enjoy!

[JeffreyWKramer]

I only look like a weasel because you're conditioned after so many posts to be wanting a weasel.

By your own posts, you mean?

[Wil Radcliffe]

I'm not a copyright or contract expert, but chances are there's no "return" involved. From what's been indicated in this thread, Olney the Lonely has never lived up to his side of the contract. The agreement sounds like it originally (remember, Mr. P mentioned that he signed a revised version that included a clause indicating he retained his rights) included an exchange of rights for compensation. As compensation never occurred, there should be no transfer.

While it would still be worthwhile for Blake (or Ronee, as his manager) to consult an Intellectual Property lawyer regarding the contract, it seems pretty clear that a) Mr. P didn't sign anything that transferred his rights and b) RO didn't live up to his end of the bargain anyway.

PDS

I figured as much. But I wanted to read an admission by Rick that he has no claim to Mr. Petit's property, and that he'll graciously allow Blake to shop his project elsewhere without threat of legal proceedings.

[Indigo Al]

I only look like a weasel because you're conditioned after so many posts to be wanting a weasel.

pay what you OWE you ugly weasely douche.

[Papergirl]

Absolutely untrue. If you're going to take responsibility for what you've said, let it stand out there. By erasing them (or, in your case, unsuccessfully trying to), you look like a weasel, and you do more harm than good.

I want it to be made VERY clear. I have never threatened Rick Olney on this board, or in any of our communications. (Which I have copies of ALL, both ways)

That being said, he says he has a "surprise' for me at MegaCon, and that "I'd be lucky to be standing" if I approached him.

I will say, that I would defend myself in no uncertain terms if I was assaulted, and that I doubt he would go to MegaCon this year, much less come up to me.


Or say ANY of the shit he has if he wasn't safe behind a keyboard. But he would not say that to anyone, unless he was safe behind a keyboard.

You're a done deal, Matt. Matter of time.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Actually and I will be serious for a moment. Jonah and the other Mod's have pretty much said CBR isn't a democracy. Its Jonah's playground. The moment you sign up you agree to his rules and how they run the show. This is Jonah's site and Gail Simone's forum.

Now she has never had anyone banned from what I can tell. But on the other boards you'd be 86'd Rick. Cronin woulda stepped in and gave you the Ban from Hell. I'm sure you should thank Gail and Ozbat for at least holding things so you can post on CBR.

But its their rules. And their game and were just a small part of the ballfield.

[heystacy]

"Gail Simone" is able to accept payments. Well, unless they're cash. And I'm not sending cash. So I'll have to ask my attorney about how she figures into all this. Last I knew from 2003 -- She had a claim of $100 dollars that she never sent a receipt in on to be reimbursed. No receipt came in. No monies went out.

Tim Tolbolski has said a bit of stuff that needs to get sorted out.

Ronee can be paid once I hear from her on the signing of a hold harmless release.


I have to say, you haven't helped yourself or your position in the least in this thread. You've been rude and rather childish when at the bare minimum you should have been leading by example. It is painful to hear so many people share stories of how you are in effect, ripping them off. People work hard, want to see their ideas and goals come to light. Here you are stiffing good people who believed in you. Do you know how good it is to have people's trust and support? You had it, threw it away, then openly mocked those same people.

Let me tell you, this thread is not a badge of honor for you, but rather a wall of shame. Dude, get right. Pay the people who you owe. Quit the crying, and for goodness sake stop being so damn ungrateful. You had a good support system. Please tell me who threw that away?

[Rick Olney]

I did a Google search last night.

Dedicated mimes laughed out loud.

No, "Gail" that is the desired effect that you wanted and set out for. Now it is a easier matter to prove your hand in it all. All over $100 dollars that you claim you were owed from 2003 that you told me you didn't want. Have you even talked to a real attorney about what you've done here on the legal side? You should.

[kmeyers]

You're a done deal, Matt. Matter of time.

C'Mon...Cage match for charity? I'll fly anywhere.

Don't you love the children?

[Papergirl]

I did a Google search last night.

Dedicated mimes laughed out loud.

No, "Gail" that is the desired effect that you wanted and set out for. Now it is a easier matter to prove your hand in it all. All over $100 dollars that you claim you were owed from 2003 that you told me you didn't want. Have you even talked to a real attorney about what you've done here on the legal side? You should.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[SUPERECWFAN1]

There's only one civilized way for you two to settle this...

JP

No I accept Tom's claim on Dido and his porno mustache. I shall move on to Joe Quesada and pester him to grow one. So he can have a porno stache ala The Dido.

[Ronée]

Everytime he says "gail" I see hm doing the air quotation marks.

[Rick Olney]

I have to say, you haven't helped yourself or your position in the least in this thread. You've been rude and rather childish when at the bare minimum you should have been leading by example. It is painful to hear so many people share stories of how you are in effect, ripping them off. People work hard, want to see their ideas and goals come to light. Here you are stiffing good people who believed in you. Do you know how good it is to have people's trust and support? You had it, threw it away, then openly mocked those same people.

Let me tell you, this thread is not a badge of honor for you, but rather a wall of shame. Dude, get right. Pay the people who you owe. Quit the crying, and for goodness sake stop being so damn ungrateful. You had a good support system. Please tell me who threw that away?

Stacy, you are so right. And you may be called to provide a deposition to what you saw and watched unfold here. Just so you know.

[Papergirl]

Everytime he says "gail" I see hm doing the air quotation marks.

Oh good! I'm not the only one, then!

~Bev

[JeffreyWKramer]

Everytime he says "gail" I see hm doing the air quotation marks.

It only looks that way. He's actually trying to catch the flies and gnats so he can do a Renfield routine.

[TomStillwell]

Have you even talked to a real attorney about what you've done here on the legal side? You should.

And with that, irony plotzed.

[Papergirl]

I have to say, you haven't helped yourself or your position in the least in this thread. You've been rude and rather childish when at the bare minimum you should have been leading by example. It is painful to hear so many people share stories of how you are in effect, ripping them off. People work hard, want to see their ideas and goals come to light. Here you are stiffing good people who believed in you. Do you know how good it is to have people's trust and support? You had it, threw it away, then openly mocked those same people.

Let me tell you, this thread is not a badge of honor for you, but rather a wall of shame. Dude, get right. Pay the people who you owe. Quit the crying, and for goodness sake stop being so damn ungrateful. You had a good support system. Please tell me who threw that away?

Stacy, you are so right. And you may be called to provide a deposition to what you saw and watched unfold here. Just so you know.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[JeffreyWKramer]

Stacy, you are so right. And you may be called to provide a deposition to what you saw and watched unfold here. Just so you know.

Ah, you're fuckin' hilarious, man.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Stacy, you are so right. And you may be called to provide a deposition to what you saw and watched unfold here. Just so you know.

BE MADE AWARE. MY MAGICAL LAWYER WILL ASK EVERYONE ON CBR TO COME TESTIFY.

AND HE WANTS TO SUPERSIZE IT.

[Rick Olney]

Actually and I will be serious for a moment. Jonah and the other Mod's have pretty much said CBR isn't a democracy. Its Jonah's playground. The moment you sign up you agree to his rules and how they run the show. This is Jonah's site and Gail Simone's forum.

Now she has never had anyone banned from what I can tell. But on the other boards you'd be 86'd Rick. Cronin woulda stepped in and gave you the Ban from Hell. I'm sure you should thank Gail and Ozbat for at least holding things so you can post on CBR.

But its their rules. And their game and were just a small part of the ballfield.

It probably can't show in my post here, but I am appreciative.

[AaronJ]

No, "Gail" that is the desired effect that you wanted and set out for. Now it is a easier matter to prove your hand in it all. All over $100 dollars that you claim you were owed from 2003 that you told me you didn't want. Have you even talked to a real attorney about what you've done here on the legal side? You should.

I've tried ... for the most part ... to be at least semi-civil to you, directly.

I'm sorry. I really am. I don't know what happened; if your mother dropped you on your head, or you were fed radioactive baby food, or what. Whatever it is, I'm sorry.

Do you *honestly* believe that Gail's beef with you is over $100?! Are you that completely divorced from reality? I mean, I figured you were living in a little pocket universe of your own devising. But man ...

Wow.

Seriously ... you are a sad, sad little man.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Stacy, you are so right. And you may be called to provide a deposition to what you saw and watched unfold here. Just so you know.


And wouldn't "someone" be guilty of tampering with evidence?


Just sayin'....

[kmeyers]

Stacy, you are so right. And you may be called to provide a deposition to what you saw and watched unfold here. Just so you know.

You have bad answers to questions that noone asked. But you havent even talked to me about our scheme to make tons of money! Comic Book Fight Club!

[Papergirl]

Actually and I will be serious for a moment. Jonah and the other Mod's have pretty much said CBR isn't a democracy. Its Jonah's playground. The moment you sign up you agree to his rules and how they run the show. This is Jonah's site and Gail Simone's forum.

Now she has never had anyone banned from what I can tell. But on the other boards you'd be 86'd Rick. Cronin woulda stepped in and gave you the Ban from Hell. I'm sure you should thank Gail and Ozbat for at least holding things so you can post on CBR.

But its their rules. And their game and were just a small part of the ballfield.

It probably can't show in my post here, but I am appreciative.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Rick Olney]

Ah, you're fuckin' hilarious, man.

Actually, I have no idea who will be contacted. I'm just sure that some will.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Everytime he says "gail" I see hm doing the air quotation marks.

Isn't she a non person now ? A walking Zombie on this Earth ? And how do we know you aren't one " Ronee " ? :)

[Indigo Al]

Actually, I have no idea who will be contacted. I'm just sure that some will.

Who's ever going to buy your suck-ass product ever again??? NO ONE.

Pay what you owe, cheat

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

No I accept Tom's claim on Dido and his porno mustache. I shall move on to Joe Quesada and pester him to grow one. So he can have a porno stache ala The Dido. Getting in is getting in...still, I think Didio would have been the way to go...oh well. I was really hoping for thunderdome...or Jerry Springer.

JP

[Rick Olney]

And wouldn't "someone" be guilty of tampering with evidence?


Just sayin'....

I'm counting on you to produce anything to your attorney that I need to be
concerned with.

[Papergirl]

Ah, you're fuckin' hilarious, man.

Actually, I have no idea who will be contacted. I'm just sure that some will.


Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[JeffreyWKramer]

Actually, I have no idea

Quoted for truth.

[Rick Olney]

Who's ever going to buy your suck-ass product ever again??? NO ONE.

Pay what you owe, cheat

You're not obligated, Al.