Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[rexmundi666]

Actually I'd love to see this guy do the job. Complete with his awesome entrance music. It would make an awesome wrestling fued.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8347434301911590270&q=Sandman+Entrance&hl=enSandman sholud cane him for all the crap,no match or storyline needed.

[Rick Olney]

An MOS # would not compromise security in any way, nor would posting pictures of oneself in uniform, or pictures of one's graduating class from boot camp, or even posting a pic of the DD-214 with # whited out.

I sincerely doubt illegal aliens are of any real concern here.


c

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORComx/SWScan00072
.jpg

That should be sufficient enough to suit you, Colleen. That is me in uniform on my wedding day back in 1975. Note the dress and rank. Shame on the lot of you!

[Matt Algren]

Rick: Have you supplied your attorney's contact information to any of the people who have requested it in this thread? If not, why not?

[EdContradictory]

Rick, my question is this:

Why do you continue to return to post in this thread when your lawyer has told you not to?

[Gail Simone]

"I will answer NO MORE personal questions."

Well, now THERE's a surprise.

Gail

[EdContradictory]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORComx/SWScan00072
.jpg

That should be sufficient enough to suit you, Colleen. That is me in uniform on my wedding day back in 1975. Note the dress and rank. Shame on the lot of you!

I thought your scanner wasn't working.

[THEDOC]

He DOES have comics. A fellow Indy Artist and writer from my neck of the woods sent Rick a few boxes of vintage comics with the agreement that he would get paid book value for them. Rick never paid him, refused to send back the comics and because it was international, (I'm in Canada) there was nothing my friend could do. I haven't spoken to him in ages. I'm going to send him a quick email and let him know what's going on here and maybe he'll come and tell his story.

Rick Olney International Thief and Liar. To think he "represented" our country once, possibly, maybe..NOT!.

[Rick Olney]

She already did.

I believe her answer was "no one."

Well, Then I'll be first inline to call her a liar.

Anyone that wants to email Mr. Bob Noberini can. Here is my last email conversation with him:



On 12/11/06, Rick Olney <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com> wrote:



On 12/11/06, bob@bobnobcomics.com <bob@bobnobcomics.com> wrote:

Rick,
Please accept my deepest apologies for not responding earlier. Your check was received at That's Entertainment and was delivered to me. I have since deposited it in my account. Thanks for sending it out.


Hi Bob,
That's okay. We just got the processed returned check from the bank here. I figured the holidays had you in the grip.



Our home computer has had a progressively worsening problem with connecting to the internet, I firmly believe it is hardware related. This week it finally gave up the ghost. So, I am writing you from a friends computer.


Sorry to hear that.

One last bit of bad news, my wife's mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer (originally believed to be only skin cancer but was discovered to be in her bones and in her major internal organs -including her liver). She is a breast cancer survivor and is only 55 years old. She is not expected to last the remainder of this week. I have been very wrapped up in supporting my wife through this, as she has taken much of her mother's hospice care upon herself. I am not telling you this to be morose or for the pitty, not at all. I know that you have dealt with the same stuff in your life and would understand. You know how it is.


Oh no! My goodness! I wouIdn't wish this misfortune on anyone. I am so sorry to learn of this. I know that while my own mother was in the hospital, I visited her each day of the 4 she was alive. Yet the very morning of the day she died, I felt that morning upon waking up that I should stay home. So I did. Thing was, I had had a dream that very night before waking up that morn that had my mom telling me it was okay and that she'd be fine.

55 years is to young though. I'll pray for her, your wife, and family.

With all that has happended, I hope you know that I wish you and your family a joyful and peaceful Christmas/Holiday, and New Year. Thanks for everything, and again, I am sorry for not confirming payment.



No problem, Bob. You take care of your wife and family needs. This will be a tough holiday season for you all, but I hope it is filled with a counter balance of good memories of the past holidays.







-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Table at MMC
From: "Rick Olney" < tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, December 04, 2006 10:52 am
To: " bob@bobnobcomics.com" <bob@bobnobcomics.com>

Hi Bob,
Just following up to make sure that you indeed got your repayment? Please confirm. Thanks.




--
Sincerely,
~Rick

Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment
www.tightlipentertainment.com
"Lux Mentis, Lux Orbis"
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Best Regards,
~Rick

Rick Olney
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[AaronJ]

I have a question, and it isn't about your private life Mr. Olney. Since it has to do with comments you made on these boards, which are public, it de facto concerns your public life.

Do you stand by the comments which you have made here, under the username "orcafresh", or do you recant, and apologize for them?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Which I don't understand at all. :)

Gail

Its the battle of good vs evil Gail. Back in the 80's Hulk Hogan was like a superhero to kids. I came in as a fan with that. Then I discovered comics later. But Hulk was like Superman. If the bad villain was kickin the heroes ass , Hogan would show and save someone.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1063649439854449559&q=Hulk+Hogan+Tribute&hl=en\

Yep those were the days. The days before I discovered ECW and the Sandman & Raven. :p

[Jeff Brady]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORComx/SWScan00072.jpg

That should be sufficient enough to suit you, Colleen. That is me in uniform on my wedding day back in 1975. Note the dress and rank. Shame on the lot of you!

That picture is no larger than a thumbnail and the details like rank and facial characteristics are completely unrecognizable. Jeez, that could be my parents wedding pictures for all anyone can tell.

Shame? For what, asking for proof?

[Gail Simone]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORComx/SWScan00072
.jpg

That should be sufficient enough to suit you, Colleen. That is me in uniform on my wedding day back in 1975. Note the dress and rank. Shame on the lot of you!

Shame on US?

We're not the ones who screwed an endless parade of people out of thousands and thousands of dollars! No lawyer in the world is going to tell you not to pay people who signed your stupid NDA, and you KNOW it.

Why isn't Dave Lanphear defending you, Rick?

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORComx/SWScan00072
.jpg

That should be sufficient enough to suit you, Colleen. That is me in uniform on my wedding day back in 1975. Note the dress and rank. Shame on the lot of you!

Uh...where is the picture?

[Rick Olney]

LOL!!!

I'm not sure what freaks me out more. The lies this guy tells or the fact that they are such bad ones.


My only memory of contact with this fellow is he used to write me repeatedly asking for donations of comics and such when I was still self publishing. I recall no personal contact at all. I may have met him at a show, but a conversation about his military career? Un unh. I'd certainly remember a conversation with someone who was location-challenged.

Since he claims he met me in the context of also meeting Susan Alston, that would have to have been no later than 1994.

By the way, has anyone looked into his "charity" status? Did anyone get paperwork backing up their donations, where they went, the value, the tax deductible status? What's the deal with that? Did he ever file the proper papers to declare himself a charity? How do we know donations got from Point A to Point B? And did he just take the tax deductions for his own "company"?



c

I can see that you are no longer as sincere a person as I recall you, Colleen. Sorry that you've had to deal with illness.

[bert]

You wouldn't be so high on Cracker Barrell if you knew how often it was sued for employment problems.

and anti-gay discrimination.

they will never, EVER get a penny of my money.

[KevinTBrown]

Gah, I thought I felt a disturbance....

It's alive!!!!!

http://www.themoderatevoice.com/files/themoderatevoice-woman_screaming_new_bb_1923.jpg

[Ronée]

Well, Then I'll be first inline to call her a liar.

Anyone that wants to email Mr. Bob Noberini can. Here is my last email conversation with him:



On 12/11/06, Rick Olney <tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com> wrote:



On 12/11/06, bob@bobnobcomics.com <bob@bobnobcomics.com> wrote:

Rick,
Please accept my deepest apologies for not responding earlier. Your check was received at That's Entertainment and was delivered to me. I have since deposited it in my account. Thanks for sending it out.


Hi Bob,
That's okay. We just got the processed returned check from the bank here. I figured the holidays had you in the grip.



Our home computer has had a progressively worsening problem with connecting to the internet, I firmly believe it is hardware related. This week it finally gave up the ghost. So, I am writing you from a friends computer.


Sorry to hear that.

One last bit of bad news, my wife's mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer (originally believed to be only skin cancer but was discovered to be in her bones and in her major internal organs -including her liver). She is a breast cancer survivor and is only 55 years old. She is not expected to last the remainder of this week. I have been very wrapped up in supporting my wife through this, as she has taken much of her mother's hospice care upon herself. I am not telling you this to be morose or for the pitty, not at all. I know that you have dealt with the same stuff in your life and would understand. You know how it is.


Oh no! My goodness! I wouIdn't wish this misfortune on anyone. I am so sorry to learn of this. I know that while my own mother was in the hospital, I visited her each day of the 4 she was alive. Yet the very morning of the day she died, I felt that morning upon waking up that I should stay home. So I did. Thing was, I had had a dream that very night before waking up that morn that had my mom telling me it was okay and that she'd be fine.

55 years is to young though. I'll pray for her, your wife, and family.

With all that has happended, I hope you know that I wish you and your family a joyful and peaceful Christmas/Holiday, and New Year. Thanks for everything, and again, I am sorry for not confirming payment.



No problem, Bob. You take care of your wife and family needs. This will be a tough holiday season for you all, but I hope it is filled with a counter balance of good memories of the past holidays.







-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Table at MMC
From: "Rick Olney" < tightlip.entertainment@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, December 04, 2006 10:52 am
To: " bob@bobnobcomics.com" <bob@bobnobcomics.com>

Hi Bob,
Just following up to make sure that you indeed got your repayment? Please confirm. Thanks.




--
Sincerely,
~Rick

Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment
www.tightlipentertainment.com
"Lux Mentis, Lux Orbis"
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Best Regards,
~Rick

Rick Olney
TightLip Entertainment
www.tightlipentertainment.com
"Lux Mentis, Lux Orbis"
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I never got to SEE a confirmation from him! This is the first I have ever been shown of him saying he got paid. And you omit the scores of emails before that asking where the hell his money is AND this was after MY paypal account got suspended because he made payment to that for YOU and thus, a claim was put against me.

And this is not payment, this is a refund for a table to the con u never had.

Now let me bring up the members of the Sci Fi show GHOSTHUNTERS who are also mad at not being paid for thier appearance at the MMC. You promised them upfront payments, then changed thier contracts and had ME redistribute them to the people who already signed a contract with you.

[THEDOC]

Ugh.

Can't help it. It makes me SICK to see this 'man' invoke the good name of the U.S.M.C. to try to hold up his squalid little meaningless life.

Disgusting. True Marines would be the first to tell him to go to hell.

Gail

John Wayne would kick his ass!

[Papergirl]

I can see that you are no longer as sincere a person as I recall you, Colleen. Sorry that you've had to deal with illness.

quoted!

~Bev

[Rick Olney]

Yeah, I live roughly 45 minutes north of Quantico, give or take 10 minutes. I live nowhere near either newport News or Norfolk. I was scratchin' my head about that one.

No, Newport News was where Collen was. Or there abouts. I used to use I-64 to get across the river and on my way to get to Richmond to pick up I-95. I'd then shhot up i-95 to Quantico, and when I had business in Washington I simply went a little further up the road.

[Rick Olney]

quoted!

~Bev

You are childish.

[Matt Algren]

Anyone that wants to email Mr. Bob Noberini can. Here is my last email conversation with him:

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[Papergirl]

No, Newport News was where Collen was. Or there abouts. I used to use I-64 to get across the river and on my way to get to Richmond to pick up I-95. I'd then shhot up i-95 to Quantico, and when I had business in Washington I simply went a little further up the road.

I can do this allllllll night.

~Bev

[Gail Simone]

I never got to SEE a confirmation from him! This is the first I have ever been shown of him saying he got paid. And you omit the scores of emails before that asking where the hell his money is AND this was after MY paypal account got suspended because he made payment to that for YOU and thus, a claim was put against me.

And this is not payment, this is a refund for a table to the con u never had.

Now let me bring up the members of the Sci Fi show GHOSTHUNTERS who are also mad at not being paid for thier appearance at the MMC. You promised them upfront payments, then changed thier contracts and had ME redistribute them to the people who already signed a contract with you.

Pwned.

Hugely pwned.

Gail

[Indigo Al]

You expect us to believe your ridiculous sock puppeteering?

PAY UP, DEADBEAT LOSER.

[Matt Doc Martin]

As far as my shirts being libelous and actionable, here's EXACTLY what I got from CafePress.

Dear Matt,

Thank you for contacting CafePress.com!

In accordance with our Intellectual Property Rights Policy, Rick Olney provided us with a notice stating that your use of his name infringes upon his intellectual property rights (right of publicity).

Accordingly, we have set the content that is alleged to infringe the rights of the third party to “pending status” which disables said content from being displayed in your shop or purchased by the public. You may review the content set to pending status by logging into your CafePress.com account and clicking on the “Media Basket” link. The content set to pending status will be highlighted red.

If you believe that you hold the rights to the content alleged to infringe the rights of the third party, we encourage you to contact the alleged rights holder directly for a resolution to this matter. Below please find the contact information for the party alleging infringement.

Rick Olney
rick.olney@gmail.com

We apologize for any inconvenience that our actions may cause you. Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

So nothing there says actionable or libelous. They just took the easy road out because you complained.

So, would you like a shirt? I'll have to ask for your money up front...you understand, I hope.

[Rick Olney]

If he were truly familiar with the area, then the obvious point of reference for location (like I'd need one since I lived there) would be one of the bases within a 1 hour to 1/2 hour drive, i.e. Yorktown, Fort Eustis, Fort Monroe, etc.

But no.

He names a military base fully THREE FREAKING HOURS AWAY because he does not know the bases in the area and has no ripping idea what he's talking about.

Moreover, there is no way on God's green Earth he could have not known where Newport News actually is because everyone in the military knows it is home to one of the largest shipyards in the world. You CAN'T have been stationed in Norfolk and NOT know Newport News. No freaking way. You can SEE IT from right across the water.


c


Whatever... you've convinced yourself that anything I say is untrue, so I'll not bother.

[Papergirl]

You are childish.

Awww, and here I was being civil and simply quoting your posts so you can't delete them again!

~Bev

[SUPERECWFAN1]

John Wayne would kick his ass!

The Duke was a standup guy. I remember watching where they discussed his life and he was gonna speak to a bunch of hippies during the late 60's on a speaking tour. People warned him that it could go bad and that the younger generation really didn't respect the old guard who really stuck up for the USA. Plus Wayne had just done a war movie so....

He went in and the kids all went silent. The guy who was talking about it said that they even were in awe. Because The Duke was a man of few words and command the respect and they gave him it. He talked about his love of the United States and all. They even applauded him.

[THEDOC]

So he's excusing himself for posting that image because 'that's what Marines do'? How deluded is he?

No Marine worth his salt will tell you they get off on killing. I know Daphne's brothers will both shit red, white and blue when they read that.

We're living in a day and age where every threat is taken seriously. Someone locally was taken down the week before Christmas because he was carrying a fabricated gun of duct tape and wood; he didn't want to carry a real one cuz he didn't want to accidentally shoot someone.

And I'll ask Moby the same thing I screamed at the teevee during the news:

'What the fuck were you thinking!?!'

Marines are trained to kill, but taught not to take a life. Killing is a last measure, a means of defense for battle. 'Kill or be killed' on the battlefield, not in the streets. They don't walk around boasting, 'I could kill you', when they're supposed to be keeping the peace. Their very presence sends the message quite clearly that they're a force to be reckoned with.

You don't stroll into a forum where you've already been bandying about threats and insults, post an image that's obviously meant as a slam against any enlisted person, and proclaim it as 'that's what Marines do'.

Marines are honorable. They keep the peace. They protect others at the risk and often sacrifice of their own safety. They don't brag about their killing prowess or how many lives they've taken.

That is what Marines do.

You are an embarrassment to my brothers-in-law, to the military branches protecting our freedom, to the country they serve, and to the human species in general.




Doc 'Deeds, Not Words' Absurd

But Tim , this IS "Rick" we are talking about!

[Gail Simone]

Pwned.

Hugely pwned.

Gail

The Olney School Of Business:

Promise everything, deliver almost nothing, and deliver it partially, months later, then threaten to sue.

Gail

[Matt Algren]

and anti-gay discrimination.

they will never, EVER get a penny of my money.Boy are you ever behind. See you in a few hours!
You are childish.Given the events that led up to your orcafresh account being banned a few days ago, I'd call it prudent.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Given the events that led up to your orcafresh account being banned a few days ago, I'd call it prudent.

It's ok...she quotes, I make PDF's!

[Dedagda]

Pay Ronée, Rick.

I mentioned this earlier. I will not carry taterTOTS.

Give up on comics, Rick. You've pissed in the pool.

[Rick Olney]

As far as my shirts being libelous and actionable, here's EXACTLY what I got from CafePress.



So nothing there says actionable or libelous. They just took the easy road out because you complained.

So, would you like a shirt? I'll have to ask for your money up front...you understand, I hope.

Matt, I'm going to reply to you just once. Where you're concerned, there is enough to push the misdemeanor charge on harrasssment, and a civil suit alleging likewise. CafePress will cooperate fully. I don't think I need say more. But you can blow it all off, if you like. Learn the hard way.

[THEDOC]

Better preserve that one for posterity...


I'll post my comment here, since Dickless isn't about to let it show up on his page....

What do you mean "we"?

You still have shown absolutely no evidence that you were ever a Marine, and you sure as hell don't act like one.

What a weird little man. I think he watched too much Gomer Pyle as a kid! Shazam!

[DrewEdwards]

This might just be the most famous thread on the internet. I post on three comics related message forums and they're all talking about this right here.

[Papergirl]

It's ok...she quotes, I make PDF's!

Teamwork! :D

~Bev

[Gail Simone]

You are childish.

Oh, I see, so you DIDN'T go on a cowardly post-deleting spree all over the internet.

Ah, that's a relief, glad to hea....

Wait a minute, yes you DID.

Gail

[Papergirl]

Matt, I'm going to reply to you just once. Where you're concerned, there is enough to push the misdemeanor charge on harrasssment, and a civil suit alleging likewise. CafePress will cooperate fully. I don't think I need say more. But you can blow it all off, if you like. Learn the hard way.

Got it :D

~Bev

[THEDOC]

I live in Mohawk, New York. Nice little community. I belong to the National Rifle Association, am a veteran of the Marines from the early 70s, and love to hunt and shoot. Own legal guns, the whole bit, right?

Why does that scare the hell outta me.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Matt, I'm going to reply to you just once. Where you're concerned, there is enough to push the misdemeanor charge on harrasssment, and a civil suit alleging likewise. CafePress will cooperate fully. I don't think I need say more. But you can blow it all off, if you like. Learn the hard way.

They aren't coming through CafePress.

And supposedly, you had ALREADY called the police. Or do you forget?

If you would like, I can call your lawyer for you. Prove harassment.

Prove libel.

Prove you are a man and not the lying deadbeat everyone knows you are.

And that is my reply to YOU.

[Rick Olney]

Pay Ronée, Rick.

I mentioned this earlier. I will not carry taterTOTS.

Give up on comics, Rick. You've pissed in the pool.

Yes, I may have pissed in the pool, but...

Ronee has always known that in order to get piad her $800 dollars she'd need to quit jerking around and sign a release form generated by my attorney. I'm not playing out her work-for-hire arrangment here on this forum. Likewise, you need not carry TOTS #1 or any subsequent issues. We will survive just fine without your standard order. But thanks anyway. And I mean that.

[AaronJ]

Matt, I'm going to reply to you just once. Where you're concerned, there is enough to push the misdemeanor charge on harrasssment, and a civil suit alleging likewise. CafePress will cooperate fully. I don't think I need say more. But you can blow it all off, if you like. Learn the hard way.

Not that Matt needs me sticking up for him, but I just have to say: You cannot be serious.

I think you need to delve more deeply into some law books. Whatever advice (if any) you are receiving from others is doing you no favors.

Ask Hailey! There ya go.

[KevinTBrown]

To the defendant:

Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but truth? So help you God.

http://www.baptiststandard.com/2000/12_4/images/bible.jpeg










Just getting you prepared. ;)

[Rick Olney]

Why does that scare the hell outta me.

I dunno. You live a sheltered life maybe? lol

[Ronée]

Yes, I may have pissed in the pool, but...

Ronee has always known that in order to get piad her $800 dollars she'd need to quit jerking around and sign a release form generated by my attorney. I'm not playing out her work-for-hire arrangment here on this forum. Likewise, you need not carry TOTS #1 or any subsequent issues. We will survive just fine without your standard order. But thanks anyway. And I mean that.so yes then.. give me your attorney's info and I will do that!

[Gail Simone]

Here's another simple question, Rick.

In this thread and at Dixonworld, you claimed repeatedly that Chuck Dixon had signed an NDA.

And yet, I have a letter FROM YOU where you say he did not, and you're quite upset about it, too.

Which is it?

Because if the whole reason you're suing Chuck is that he broke his NDA, and you yourself admit he never signed one...well, aren't you up (&*% Creek?


So did he sign one, or not?

It's your company, you should know one way or the other, right?
Gail

[Papergirl]

Yes, I may have pissed in the pool, but...

Ronee has always known that in order to get piad her $800 dollars she'd need to quit jerking around and sign a release form generated by my attorney. I'm not playing out her work-for-hire arrangment here on this forum. Likewise, you need not carry TOTS #1 or any subsequent issues. We will survive just fine without your standard order. But thanks anyway. And I mean that.

Quoted!

~Bev

[colleen]

I can see that you are no longer as sincere a person as I recall you, Colleen. Sorry that you've had to deal with illness.

I am 100% sincere when I find him to be an obfuscating, manipulative, and dishonest person.

It is common for fans to remember meeting pros. I am supposed to remember Olney for what, exactly? That he came up to me out of nowhere and claimed to be a Marine? I have no memory of meeting him. Period. Why should I? I must have met at least a half million people between 1994 and 2007.

It takes no effort whatsoever to check the status of a charitable organization, especially with reputable watchdog groups such as www.charitywatch.org making it easy for the public to send their donations to the places they will do the most good.

His organization does not appear on any of the charity watch lists as having a favorable rating. I don't support any organization that does not appear on those lists, and have stated so publicly and repeatedly and have a standing list of charity watchdog groups on the main page of my blog.

His "charity" doesn't rate.

Shame on him for using his undistinguished military "career" as a launch for getting people to believe he is a man of honor. He dishonors everything the Marines stand for.



c

[Rick Olney]

Can I have 10 minutes to read and catch up?

[bert]

"Bottoms" generally lie on their fronts, as it happens, for reasons of access.

But what he claimed was that he'd earned stripes on his back. I assume that was a reference to being found guilty of flogging offenses.

kdb

ummmm. . . .

as a gay man, I can say conclusively, that most "bottoms" don't lie on thier fronts.

(and that's as much detail as *I'm* gonna get into here.

(heh)

[Ronée]

nope. keep up old man.

[Papergirl]

I dunno. You live a sheltered life maybe? lol

la-de-da. Next?

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

Can I have 10 minutes to read and catch up?

Should we all type slower?

[Gail Simone]

Matt, I'm going to reply to you just once. Where you're concerned, there is enough to push the misdemeanor charge on harrasssment, and a civil suit alleging likewise. CafePress will cooperate fully. I don't think I need say more. But you can blow it all off, if you like. Learn the hard way.

Like all the other lawsuits you've threatened and never followed through on?

You threaten everyone, Rick. No one's scared. Do you have a less creaky threat? How about pirates attacking?


Gail

[Papergirl]

Can I have 10 minutes to read and catch up?

Sure. Gives Matt a chance to pdf this.

~Bev

[Paul D. Storrie]

Yes, I may have pissed in the pool, but...

Ronee has always known that in order to get piad her $800 dollars she'd need to quit jerking around and sign a release form generated by my attorney. I'm not playing out her work-for-hire arrangment here on this forum. Likewise, you need not carry TOTS #1 or any subsequent issues. We will survive just fine without your standard order. But thanks anyway. And I mean that.

Yet when she asked you to send the paperwork, you replied (and I paraphrase), "Psych! Too late. No paperwork for you!!! Neener, neener!"

Cough up the paperwork. She said she'll sign it. So what's the hangup?

PDS

[Matt Doc Martin]

They aren't coming through CafePress.

And supposedly, you had ALREADY called the police. Or do you forget?

If you would like, I can call your lawyer for you. Prove harassment.

Prove libel.

Prove you are a man and not the lying deadbeat everyone knows you are.

And that is my reply to YOU.

I don't want anyone to miss this.

[THEDOC]

Just for you, JP:




One magically bad-ass kitten later, the Olney as we knew it was destroyed...


The new PC term instead of "going "postal" will now be "Going Olney" I apologize to all the Olneys out there!

[DarrenCawsey]

Yes, I may have pissed in the pool, but...

Ronee has always known that in order to get piad her $800 dollars she'd need to quit jerking around and sign a release form generated by my attorney. I'm not playing out her work-for-hire arrangment here on this forum. Likewise, you need not carry TOTS #1 or any subsequent issues. We will survive just fine without your standard order. But thanks anyway. And I mean that.


Umm....

4. Why will you not give Ronee the attorney contact information that she requires in order to comply with your conditions in order to be paid?

Answer: No, that isn't why Ronee wasn't given that specific informatuon. Ronee wasn't given any inforamtion because she's on the stage performing. She's an actress. When she's done performing and if she ever comes to her senses ... she knows how to contact me in order to get the release form. Other wise, if she believes that she really has a case -- which maybe Mark Waid would like to pay her legal bills? -- She can move forward in that manner. Maybe Mr. Waid will also pay for her divorce, child care expenses, groceries, and her DSL. Maybe?


Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment ™ on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 9:45 AM


---------------------

[KevinTBrown]

Should we all type slower?

Use smaller words, too.


Thanks.

:cool:

[Gail Simone]

ummmm. . . .

as a gay man, I can say conclusively, that most "bottoms" don't lie on thier fronts.

(and that's as much detail as *I'm* gonna get into here.

(heh)

Oh, my god, BERT is GAY?!?!?!?!!?


:)

Gail

[AaronJ]

Like all the other lawsuits you've threatened and never followed through on?

You threaten everyone, Rick. No one's scared. Do you have a less creaky threat? How about pirates attacking?


Gail

Aww, come on. No need to demean pirates by bringing them into this!

If there's one thing I truly believe, it is that any story, no matter how good, can be made better by the addition of either pirates or dinosaurs.

[kmeyers]

That picture is no larger than a thumbnail and the details like rank and facial characteristics are completely unrecognizable. Jeez, that could be my parents wedding pictures for all anyone can tell.

Shame? For what, asking for proof?

Why would anyone post a picture of unidentified people getting married as an example as his military status, instead of, you know...actual credentials that can be verified?

[Matt Algren]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Can we make sure this doesn't turn into a mess like the other night? Civility in the face of a no good so-and-so is difficult, but it's exponentially more rewarding than mud slinging. Hit him with facts, not insults.

PLEASE.

The fate of the free world depends on it.I'm beggin' ya.

[Jeff Brady]

ummmm. . . .

as a gay man, I can say conclusively, that most "bottoms" don't lie on thier fronts.

(and that's as much detail as *I'm* gonna get into here.

(heh)

No need to give a reach-around when it's right in front of you!

(What, just because I'm straight, I shouldn't know about this stuff? Geez, Dan Savage would be sad.)

[Blake Petit]

Aww, come on. No need to demean pirates by bringing them into this!

If there's one thing I truly believe, it is that any story, no matter how good, can be made better by the addition of either pirates or dinosaurs.

Don't forget zombies and monkeys.

[AaronJ]

Don't forget zombies and monkeys.

Zombies and monkeys are Tier II, AFAIC. :)

[Rick Olney]

Orky gave us a cookie:


Okay, so we have full name, partial SS, DOB, rank, approximate dates of service, and at least one alleged assignment (Norfolk). Can somebody with military connections follow up and prove this to be the disgusting fraud we all suspect it to be?

I gave you more than that. Just understand that you'll feel awful after learning I was right and you were wrong. And, no, I won't told my breath for an apology. Some here I'll answer. Others I won't. No trolls.

[Rick Olney]

I thought your scanner wasn't working.

It isn't. I found that in a cache of old pictures.

[Karl J. Barnes]

Aww, come on. No need to demean pirates by bringing them into this!

If there's one thing I truly believe, it is that any story, no matter how good, can be made better by the addition of either pirates or dinosaurs.

Dinosaur Pirates would be the best...maybe even robotic dinosaur pirates!

[Matt Algren]

Umm....




---------------------Now THAT'S what I'm talking about.

[THEDOC]

Really, Dick? Maybe you can explain how any of your behavior of the last several years reflects the values taught in Scouting?

I happen to be an Assistant Scoutmaster. Let's review, shall we?

Scout Oath
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.
(Note: that "morally straight" business has nothing to do with not being gay; it refers to adhering to the traditional principles of morality, i.e., don't lie, don't steal, don't murder, don't cheat, etc. "Don't be crooked", in other words.)

Scout Law
A Scout is...
TRUSTWORTHY
A Scout tells the truth. He keeps his promises. Honesty is part of his code of conduct. People can depend on him.

LOYAL
A Scout is true to his family, Scout leaders, friends, school, and nation.

HELPFUL
A Scout is concerned about other people. He does things willingly for others without pay or reward.

FRIENDLY
A Scout is a friend to all. He is a brother to other Scouts. He seeks to understand others. He respects those with ideas and customs other than his own.

COURTEOUS
A Scout is polite to everyone regardless of age or position. He knows good manners make it easier for people to get along together.

KIND
A Scout understands there is strength in being gentle. He treats others as he wants to be treated. He does not hurt or kill harmless things without reason.

OBEDIENT
A Scout follows the rules of his family, school, and troop. He obeys the laws of his community and country. If he thinks these rules and laws are unfair, he tries to have them changed in an orderly manner rather than disobey them.

CHEERFUL
A Scout looks for the bright side of things. He cheerfully does tasks that come his way. He tries to make others happy.

THRIFTY
A Scout works to pay his way and to help others. He saves for unforeseen needs. He protects and conserves natural resources. He carefully uses time and property.

BRAVE
A Scout can face danger even if he is afraid. He has the courage to stand for what he thinks is right even if others laugh at or threaten him.

CLEAN
A Scout keeps his body and mind fit and clean. He goes around with those who believe in living by these same ideals. He helps keep his home and community clean.

REVERENT
A Scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.

Uh, yeah. Kinda not seeing it. If you were a Scout, it didn't stick. You clearly never made Eagle. What, did you wash out as a Tenderfoot?


Owe alot of money
Lie to your heart's content
Need to make excuses
Exploit all your resources and friends
Yell but never give a straight answer

Oh and run over little old ladies..THAT is the OLNEY code of ethics!

[kmeyers]

Whatever... you've convinced yourself that anything I say is untrue, so I'll not bother.

Convince her otherwise!

If you are a marine as you say you are, you should shove your proof in her face and make her shut up. But you'd rather dance around it.

[OzBat!]

Does your definition of trolls still include everybody who doesn't swallow your stories wholeheartedly?

[Papergirl]

I gave you more than that. Just understand that you'll feel awful after learning I was right and you were wrong. And, no, I won't told my breath for an apology. Some here I'll answer. Others I won't. No trolls.

It isn't. I found that in a cache of old pictures.

More to pdf!

~Bev

[Matt Algren]

No need to give a reach-around when it's right in front of you!

(What, just because I'm straight, I shouldn't know about this stuff? Geez, Dan Savage would be sad.)Tell Ed I said 'Hi.'

[Rick Olney]

I realize that the warning was yours, but when you include this kind of warning on your emails, it's generally understood that all parties are obligated to maintain a certain degree of confidentiality. Posting private email messages on message boards would not tend to fall in that category.

Matt, except when the emails I'm posting are MINe and it is only MY email that carries such a warning. Also enforcible by law, I'm told. Like John Byrne's copyrighting in own every word online. A way to combat the mean and nasty ones.

[Karl J. Barnes]

Does your definition of trolls still include everybody who doesn't swallow your stories wholeheartedly?

That's a rhetorical question,right?

[Rick Olney]

I can do this allllllll night.

~Bev

Be my guest. I wouldn't have signed back in here under my name if I had anything to hide from you, Bev.

[Papergirl]

Matt, except when the emails I'm posting are MINe and it is only MY email that carries such a warning. Also enforcible by law, I'm told. Like John Byrne's copyrighting in own every word online. A way to combat the mean and nasty ones.

Next?

~Bev

[AaronJ]

I gave you more than that. Just understand that you'll feel awful after learning I was right and you were wrong. And, no, I won't told my breath for an apology. Some here I'll answer. Others I won't. No trolls.

OK, but will you answer my question, as to whether you stand behind your comments made under the name "orcafresh" or not?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Why would anyone post a picture of unidentified people getting married as an example as his military status, instead of, you know...actual credentials that can be verified?

Because it is really hard.

Or is it?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/new2006-1.jpg


I even took time to black out my middle name and social....frankly, anything that would make life easier for peanut to bug me.

So I guess it really isn't hard.

Want proof I pay my bills, anyone? It may not be that tough....

[Papergirl]

Be my guest. I wouldn't have signed back in here under my name if I had anything to hide from you, Bev.

Ah, but you had something to hide before. Why take the chance you'll go on a deleting spree again? :)

~Bev

[TCJohnson]

Oh, my god, BERT is GAY?!?!?!?!!?


:)

Gail

Every picture I have seen him he is smiling...he must be pretty happy.

What that has to do with the bottom of something is beyond me.

[THEDOC]

MacQuarrie -- reading the Scout lists .... I suddenly flashed back to my childhood, remembering that not only had my older brother been a Scout, but my dad had been the Scoutmaster! Memories of them going off on Scouting camp-outs came pouring back. But beyond that, it had me looking at the character of my father (who died in 1991) from a different angle. He really did live the Scout's life, and it obviously had a powerful effect on me as an example -- except that I can't recall these articulated in my hearing! It was all example.

That's so cool. But once again, it highlights how very, very far Olney is from such things.

I come from a long line of scouts, my dad was a Scoutmaster as well and it was a great time. I don't think "Rick" would'nt last ten seconds in the Cub Scouts!

[Rick Olney]

What a weird little man. I think he watched too much Gomer Pyle as a kid! Shazam!

Lance, are you calling MacQuarrie a weird little man? That isn't nice.

[THEDOC]

Lance, are you calling MacQuarrie a weird little man? That isn't nice.

Well look who's back.."Rick" the Deleter.

[Spackling Compound]

I haven't been here in months but this is pretty compelling stuff.

If there's a possibility of less images of cats or guns or Ikill or Skrulls (though that was pretty great), and more text so Mr. Olney may at least get to answering Gail's re-posting (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4235414&postcount=6241)of her questions concerning her husband's flight ticket and her own dealings, I'd be interested to see his answer.

Other than that, the pictures and eternal "monkey, pirate" stuff just gets things off the mark.

That is all.

[shanejayell]

So just a dumb question from a noob: Why aren't you paying these people for work they did for you?

[colleen]

He may actually have given some comics to a hospital, he may actually have been a corporal, but none of that obviates the fact that he has obfuscated the issues, and manipulated and ill treated these creators. The only thing his behavior on this thread proves is he likes jerking people's chains. He could have settled many of these questions AGES ago, but he chose to manipulate people and bring attention on himself, dishonestly deleting all of his comments because they were simply indefensible.

And he wonders why no one believes him now.


He's got no one to blame but himself.

[Rick Olney]

Ah, but you had something to hide before. Why take the chance you'll go on a deleting spree again? :)

~Bev


Me... chosing to remove my posts here should be perfectly fine. ANYONE can do it. There is nothing written that says a person can't.

[kmeyers]

Because it is really hard.

Or is it?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/new2006-1.jpg


I even took time to black out my middle name and social....frankly, anything that would make life easier for peanut to bug me.

So I guess it really isn't hard.

Want proof I pay my bills, anyone? It may not be that tough....
Well, I can identify the words in that picture, as opposed to his photo. Don't give him a template to work from. We'll be seeing that document photoshopped momentarily.

[rexmundi666]

That's a rhetorical question,right?I was gonna post that.:)

[THEDOC]

There will be far better folks than me who will make comments to you. You're still a pathedic creature "Rick". PAY Tim his money, loser!

[TCJohnson]

If he isn't I am

MacQuarrie, or otherwise known as MacQuacky, is a weird little man.

that is what I like about him.

For the record I believe Kevin T. Brown is a weird big man and I am an weird averaged size man.

But at least we are all honorable.

[Matt Algren]

Matt, except when the emails I'm posting are MINe and it is only MY email that carries such a warning. Also enforcible by law, I'm told. Like John Byrne's copyrighting in own every word online. A way to combat the mean and nasty ones.For the moment, let's ignore the legality. Let's talk ethics. So the other person's just outta luck, and you are all clear to hand out their private emails with your business card?

Seriously, what's the answer, Rick?

[Rick Olney]

nope. keep up old man.

You're so sweet. ;)

[Matt Doc Martin]

Who wants my newest creation?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070112-231942.jpg

[Koben Kelly]

Matt, I'm going to reply to you just once. Where you're concerned, there is enough to push the misdemeanor charge on harrasssment, and a civil suit alleging likewise. CafePress will cooperate fully. I don't think I need say more. But you can blow it all off, if you like. Learn the hard way.

What a bunch of BS, you giant douche.

If anyone is taking the man seriously, but you still want a shirt, here's an option.

http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=35078&product_id=1356297&affiliate=2423

Spreadshirt is a wonderfully simplistic site where you can make your own RICK OLNEY NEVER PAID ME shirt without getting anyone in a lick of trouble. Hell, you could even spice it up to RICK OLNEY IS A BIG, FAT LIAR if you want. It's totally moron-friendly... so easy a peanut could use it.

Zivio
---Koben:)

[THEDOC]

If he isn't I am

MacQuarrie, or otherwise known as MacQuacky, is a weird little man.

that is what I like about him.

For the record I believe Kevin T. Brown is a weird big man and I am an weird averaged size man.

But at least we are all honorable.

True True TC!

[Gail Simone]

I'm off for a bit. Some of us who are actually IN the industry and not just pretending have work to do.

I say again to everyone, Rick is the bad example. He is the non-payer, the bully, the hack, the blowhard. But he is most IMPORTANTLY, the EXCEPTION.

Since MMC, I have gotten references on every con I've attended, every appearance I've made, and they have uniformly been wonderful, well-intentioned, honest, and decent. One CAPE undoes a lot of MMC's.

I've read several people saying people like Olney make it so they don't want to try to make it in the industry. I say to them, he's not the rule. Be wary, be smart, be careful, get references...but don't quit because there might be dishonest amateurs out there with big mouths but no back-up.


And thanks to everyone in this thread for helping make sure people are aware that people like Rick are out there.

Gail

[Papergirl]

Lance, are you calling MacQuarrie a weird little man? That isn't nice.

Me... chosing to remove my posts here should be perfectly fine. ANYONE can do it. There is nothing written that says a person can't.

It's not okay when you post lies and change stories every other day.

~Bev

[kmeyers]

Me... chosing to remove my posts here should be perfectly fine. ANYONE can do it. There is nothing written that says a person can't.

Of course you CAN do it...But, WHY would you feel the need to do it?

[Buckminster Futter]

Rick from TightLip Entertainment:

Hey Night Terror! I'm usually very hesitant to interact with anyone claiming to be from Indiana. Mr. "Buck Futter" is from Indiana, and his neighbors can't wait for him to die.

:eek: He is psychic!

As always: Fuck you, Rick.

[Rick Olney]

For the moment, let's ignore the legality. Let's talk ethics. So the other person's just outta luck, and you are all clear to hand out their private emails with your business card?

Seriously, what's the answer, Rick?

Consult your attorney on that, Matt. It is a personal call that anyone might make and I'm told that it doesn't violate trust or ethic as long as that person DOES NOT indicate such on his email closing.

[shanejayell]

Unless you're backpedaling desperately?

[Matt Doc Martin]

What a bunch of BS, you giant douche.

If anyone is taking the man seriously, but you still want a shirt, here's an option.

http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=35078&product_id=1356297&affiliate=2423

Spreadshirt is a wonderfully simplistic site where you can make your own RICK OLNEY NEVER PAID ME shirt without getting anyone in a lick of trouble. Hell, you could even spice it up to RICK OLNEY IS A BIG, FAT LIAR if you want. It's totally moron-friendly... so easy a peanut could use it.

Zivio
---Koben:)

That is GREAT! I bookmarked it...which means I did not create the site, I just like it now.

[OzBat!]

5. What exactly did you contribute to Crossgen's Bridges program, and how does it differ from the "comics in the classroom" programs that existed before you were born?Answer: There were NO "comics in the classroom" programs existing before I was born, or even before 1983 to 1996. As afr as your BRIDGES program question. Do your research. Answer your own question.Did you tell the owner of the Comics in the Classroom website that you owned the copyright on his site name? If you did so, were you aware that domain names and book titles cannot be copyrighted?Answer: I have exchanged emails with Scott and we're on the same page again. End of answer.At the Comics in the Classroom website, the revised copyright information still stands as (c) Scott Tingley.

The same page may be the page wherein Scott actually owns the work he did after all.


cSee now, I've tried to be a nice guy about all of this. I remained very diplomatic, even seconded the call to lay off his wife. I only hit refresh on the thread just to see if there was anything else that concerned me before going off to watch Numb3rs and then go to bed - but no. This had to come up.

Rick, I hope we are on the same page. As long as this is the page:

In response to an email from him:
"Rick,

Why don't you write me up a quick letter saying that you have no claim
over the term "Comics in the Classroom" as used on my site and
therefore have no claim over any part of my site - especially since
your program and my site are two completely different entities. Any
program I may decide to develop would not use that name anyway.
Thanks for that.

You can send it to:
Scott Tingley"
etc.
Rick there appears to be a slight dissonance between your answer and Scott's answer. Could you please clear that one up for me? Thanks.

[Rick Olney]

:eek: He is is psychic!

As always: Fuck you, Rick.

No, I just recallyou driving ALL THE WAY from Indiana to the Pittsburgh Comicon, ummm... was that 2000 or 2001? So you could stalk me. :D How you doing you old fart?

[Papergirl]

Consult your attorney on that, Matt. It is a personal call that anyone might make and I'm told that it doesn't violate trust or ethic as long as that person DOES NOT indicate such on his email closing.

Next?

~Bev

[kmeyers]

You're so sweet. ;)
You're hilarious. I'm pretty sure you've never said anything bad towards anyone, right?(end of my sarcasm).

You tried to delete your angry name calling personal attacks, but, sadly for you...They're still here. How do you explain those remarks that you couldn't delete in time? Seriously.

[THEDOC]

Say, did ANYONE ever get one of the promised coffee mugs with the MMC logo that Mr. OrcaPoop promised us all if we showed up when he hosted a chat waaaaaaaaaay back when on the SPA chats?

Funny, mine must have gotten lost in the frickin' mail.

I never did.

[Rick Olney]

Owe alot of money
Lie to your heart's content
Need to make excuses
Exploit all your resources and friends
Yell but never give a straight answer

Oh and run over little old ladies..THAT is the OLNEY code of ethics!

I can tell you're going to need more Doctor's visits, Lance. Sorry to hear that you had to close your convention. Maybe next year?

[Papergirl]

No, I just recallyou driving ALL THE WAY from Indiana to the Pittsburgh Comicon, ummm... was that 2000 or 2001? So you could stalk me. :D How you doing you old fart?

Next?

~Bev

........................

[Papergirl]

I can tell you're going to need more Doctor's visits, Lance. Sorry to hear that you had to close your convention. Maybe next year?

~Bev

:D

[Matt Algren]

Consult your attorney on that, Matt. It is a personal call that anyone might make and I'm told that it doesn't violate trust or ethic as long as that person DOES NOT indicate such on his email closing.I want to be clear here, Rick.

There are more than a few people here who have had email conversations with you, some extensively over a period of years. Are you saying that there is nothing unethical or untoward about them releasing each and every email that they received from you that doesn't have a confidentiality statement tacked to the bottom of it?

Think very carefully before you answer.

[JeffreyWKramer]

If there's one thing I truly believe, it is that any story, no matter how good, can be made better by the addition of either pirates or dinosaurs.

We need more stories with dinosaur pirates.

[Matt Doc Martin]

No, I just recallyou driving ALL THE WAY from Indiana to the Pittsburgh Comicon, ummm... was that 2000 or 2001? So you could stalk me. :D How you doing you old fart?

It is 5 hours from Indianapolis to Pittsburgh. It could even be closer.

I have driven farther than that on a blind date once.

[Rick Olney]

You're hilarious. I'm pretty sure you've never said anything bad towards anyone, right?(end of my sarcasm).

You tried to delete your angry name calling personal attacks, but, sadly for you...They're still here. How do you explain those remarks that you couldn't delete in time? Seriously.

Right there right alongside your mood ring. Do you still wear yours, btw?

[amboy00]

Yes, I may have pissed in the pool, but...

Ronee has always known that in order to get piad her $800 dollars she'd need to quit jerking around and sign a release form generated by my attorney. I'm not playing out her work-for-hire arrangment here on this forum. Likewise, you need not carry TOTS #1 or any subsequent issues. We will survive just fine without your standard order. But thanks anyway. And I mean that.

You waived any need for an NDA when you allowed Ronée to work for you.

You see, the whole point to having an NDA is to force people to agree to keep information confidential in order to be able to work for you. If you allow them to work without having signed one, then clearly you didn't need one in the first place.

Services rendered has long negated an NDA and no court will let you hide behind monies owed.

As for a "standard order" of a book that hasn't even been solicited, carrying stock of your work would qualify as charity.

Take all that aside. The money, the scandal, everything. You have behaved so poorly (and on record despite your efforts to cover it up) that your career in comics is over. It is over and there is nothing so salvage.

This is permanent, Rick. There is no recovery.

[kmeyers]

Right there right alongside your mood ring. Do you still wear yours, btw?

Way to dodge a question...right?

[Rick Olney]

It is 5 hours from Indianapolis to Pittsburgh. It could even be closer.

I have driven farther than that on a blind date once.

Wow! And she went off the road! How did she see the highway lines?

[Papergirl]

Right there right alongside your mood ring. Do you still wear yours, btw?

~Bev

:D

[THEDOC]

Who wants my newest creation?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070112-231942.jpg

Awesome.....I'll take a dozen!

[DarrenCawsey]

4. Why will you not give Ronee the attorney contact information that she requires in order to comply with your conditions in order to be paid?

Answer: No, that isn't why Ronee wasn't given that specific informatuon. Ronee wasn't given any inforamtion because she's on the stage performing. She's an actress. When she's done performing and if she ever comes to her senses ... she knows how to contact me in order to get the release form. Other wise, if she believes that she really has a case -- which maybe Mark Waid would like to pay her legal bills? -- She can move forward in that manner. Maybe Mr. Waid will also pay for her divorce, child care expenses, groceries, and her DSL. Maybe?


Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment ™ on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 9:45 AM

OK, and now please see attachment.

[Papergirl]

Wow! And she went off the road! How did she see the highway lines?

~Bev

:D

[AaronJ]

Mr. Olney, since it appears that you don't want to answer my (or anyone's, for that matter) question, I'll say this:

If it does, miraculously, turn out that you were indeed in the Marines, no one here has anything to apologize for. People here questioned the veracity of your statements because, well, you don't have the best track record as to telling the truth, you were less than forthcoming with information that most veterans would have no problem recounting, and your story changed early and often.

Don't attempt to push the responsibility onto everyone else.

Personally, I cannot understand how you can refuse to pay people who did work for you. If you are honest to goodness broke, then say so. Otherwise, get some decency and stand up like a man, and make good on your debts. There is NO conspiracy in the industry. There is NO grand scheme to defraud you. Make good on what you promised. Apologize to the people you have harmed. Then, maybe, you might be able to begin to claw back and reclaim some amount of dignity.

Hiding behind an imaginary lawyer, claiming all sorts of NDA craziness, the whole lot of it ... stop it. It is indecent.

[TomStillwell]

Why would anyone post a picture of unidentified people getting married as an example as his military status, instead of, you know...actual credentials that can be verified?

Because he saw that I'm going to contact the VA and thought I might back off if he came up with some kind of fake "proof".

[Matt Doc Martin]

Wow! And she went off the road! How did she see the highway lines?

That makes no fucking sense.

Oh. Right. It's you.

So.....MegaCon?

[colleen]

I'm off for a bit. Some of us who are actually IN the industry and not just pretending have work to do.

I say again to everyone, Rick is the bad example. He is the non-payer, the bully, the hack, the blowhard. But he is most IMPORTANTLY, the EXCEPTION.

Since MMC, I have gotten references on every con I've attended, every appearance I've made, and they have uniformly been wonderful, well-intentioned, honest, and decent. One CAPE undoes a lot of MMC's.

I've read several people saying people like Olney make it so they don't want to try to make it in the industry. I say to them, he's not the rule. Be wary, be smart, be careful, get references...but don't quit because there might be dishonest amateurs out there with big mouths but no back-up.


And thanks to everyone in this thread for helping make sure people are aware that people like Rick are out there.

Gail

Couldn't agree more.

When I think of true and honest small press guys, I think of Jim Ottaviani's GT Labs. I think of self publishers like Carla Speed McNeil, Jeff Smith, and Terry Moore.

The good guys are out there.

Wanting to be important in the industry is no sin. But it's something you have to earn.

And you don't earn it by making promises far out of your ability to keep, claiming relationships that do not have any basis in objective reality, and promoting grandiose schemes that would give even major publishers problems with follow through.

People fail in this business every day, and that's no sin. This is an extraordinarily tough industry. MOST people fail. Most creators fail, most publishers fail. It's not a crime.

But what happened with this "publisher" is another matter entirely.



c

[Sally Sensational]

I don't think I've posted here yet - but I've been keeping up and I just have to ask:

Is it me or does the "New" Rick seem to have better grammar and spelling than the "old" Rick? When I was in grad school, we were trained to spot shifts in writing style as evidence of cheating/plagiarism. "New" Rick has a completely different style from the incoherent rants posted under the Orcafresh handle.

Just curious.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Be my guest. I wouldn't have signed back in here under my name if I had anything to hide from you, Bev.

If you have nothing to hide, why were you going about deleting piles of posts a few days ago?

[Dedagda]

Rick, pay Ronée.

My standard order?!? Don't piss off the retailer, Rick. We wont carry your comic.

Don't piss off the creators, either. They wont come to your show or produce your comic. There are plenty of naive, hungry artists willing to work which is why this thread exists.

Ronée is a friend. Gail is a friend. I don't appreciate that they've had to deal with this mess.

Answer me this one question and I'll buy your comic. Did you pay as promised for Gail's husband's ticket?

[Rick Olney]

You waived any need for an NDA when you allowed Ronée to work for you.

You see, the whole point to having an NDA is to force people to agree to keep information confidential in order to be able to to work for you. If you allow them to work without having signed one, then clearly you didn't need one in the first place.

Services rendered has long negated an NDA and no court will let you hide behind monies owed.

As for a "standard order" of a book that hasn't even been solicited, carrying stock of your work would qualify as charity.

Take all that aside. The money, the scandal, everything. You have behaved so poorly (and on record despite your efforts to cover it up) that your career in comics is over. It is over and there is nothing so salvage.

This is permanent, Rick. There is no recovery.

Chris, you are entitled to your opinion, but whether or not my "career" (and that is your descriptive, not mine) is over remains to be seen. Ronee still needs to sign a 'hold harmless' release in order to get what she earned from July until she left. I probably wouldn't have fared as well emotionally as I did if not for her. I hope she knows that I'm greatful.

[Gail Simone]

OK, and now please see attachment.

Now YOU, I like.

Gail

[Matt Algren]

Way to dodge a question...right?I don't even understand what he was saying...

[Matt Doc Martin]

I don't think I've posted here yet - but I've been keeping up and I just have to ask:

Is it me or does the "New" Rick seem to have better grammar and spelling than the "old" Rick? When I was in grad school, we were trained to spot shifts in writing style as evidence of cheating/plagiarism. "New" Rick has a completely different style from the incoherent rants posted under the Orcafresh handle.

Just curious.

Nah...it's him. You can tell by the way he dodges. Agile for a fat man, he is.

[Papergirl]

Chris, you are entitled to your opinion, but whether or not my "career" (and that is your descriptive, not mine) is over remains to be seen. Ronee still needs to sign a 'hold harmless' release in order to get what she earned from July until she left. I probably wouldn't have fared as well emotionally as I did if not for her. I hope she knows that I'm greatful.

~Bev

:D

[JeffreyWKramer]

Me... chosing to remove my posts here should be perfectly fine. ANYONE can do it. There is nothing written that says a person can't.

But there's no reason most people would. Unless the person in question was trying to hide/deny/remove traces of what they'd written. And why would a person do that?

[kmeyers]

I don't even understand what he was saying...

That's because noone does, or is supposed to. This is all a complete sad misdirection. LOOK AWAY...please!

Details? forget that...here's my proof, in empty threats.

If only he knew how to read, he might be able to write someday.

[DarrenCawsey]

Now YOU, I like.

Gail

<Blushes> :)

[THEDOC]

I can tell you're going to need more Doctor's visits, Lance. Sorry to hear that you had to close your convention. Maybe next year?

Ok What The FUCK are you talking about "Rick", unlike you I have a convention going. We sold ten tables and eleven ment. Like always you lie thru your teeth. Hey I admit I am bi-polar and not ashamed as you are obviously about your time in the "service" as you have shown no proof. Oh Nino and the gang at IF say "hi"....not!

* like to apologize i usualy don't swear on forums.:(

[Jeff Brady]

Me... chosing to remove my posts here should be perfectly fine. ANYONE can do it. There is nothing written that says a person can't.

My favorite image:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Smilies/USMCikill.jpg

Chosing to remove a death threat because it may incriminate you? Imagine that. Good thing we have proof of it.

[Gail Simone]

Chris, you are entitled to your opinion, but whether or not my "career" (and that is your descriptive, not mine) is over remains to be seen. Ronee still needs to sign a 'hold harmless' release in order to get what she earned from July until she left. I probably wouldn't have fared as well emotionally as I did if not for her. I hope she knows that I'm greatful.

So grateful you called her a 'dumb ass' and said toxic things about her personal life?

Scott Shaw! called it. This is your 'reasonable' phase. Next is another blowup, then the apologies.

You can't even be original in your meltdowns.

And now, off to do some real work, for publishers who keep their word and pay when promised.

Gail

[Papergirl]

Now YOU, I like.

Gail

Seconded!

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

By the way..I am contacting St Judes Children's research Hospital in the a.m. on Monday to see about whether any donations were ever made from Tightlip, Orca, or Rick Olney.


You see, I have done a lot of work in the medical field, and know a lot of doctors with pull.

And I have some free time.

And I have proof a blatant lie he has told tonight. It's a biggee.

That will appear soon.

[DocAbsurd]

I don't think I've posted here yet - but I've been keeping up and I just have to ask:

Is it me or does the "New" Rick seem to have better grammar and spelling than the "old" Rick? When I was in grad school, we were trained to spot shifts in writing style as evidence of cheating/plagiarism. "New" Rick has a completely different style from the incoherent rants posted under the Orcafresh handle.

Just curious.

I noticed it too, Sally. Almost like someone's watching over his shoulder and prompting him. There's noticeable slips into Olney-esque, but also distinct changes; note the sudden need for often-correct syntax.

He's got the doges, but he's almost coherent.

Would explain the gap between responses.

[kmeyers]

If you have nothing to hide, why were you going about deleting piles of posts a few days ago?

He has nothing to hide, EXCEPT from you CBR people! Or anyone who might be researching.

It's funny, because he didn't delete nearly enough.

[Blake Petit]

So grateful you called her a 'dumb ass' and said toxic things about her personal life?

Scott Shaw! called it. This is your 'reasonable' phase. Next is another blowup, then the apologies.

You can't even be original in your meltdowns.

And now, off to do some real work, for publishers who keep their word and pay when promised.

Gail

Get ye to the keyboard, Gail. I don't care what book you're working on next, I can't wait to read it.

[AaronJ]

We need more stories with dinosaur pirates.

I agree, but that is sort of the Holy Grail. You can only go to that well rarely.

[KevinTBrown]

I've been googling through marine wedding pictures..... Nothing yet. But I've got an hour to kill. ;)

[Matt Doc Martin]

Chosing to remove a death threat because it may incriminate you? Imagine that. Good thing we have proof of it.

Looks better like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/SP32-20070109-165623.jpg

[Gail Simone]

Ok What The FUCK are you talking about "Rick", unlike you I have a convention going. We sold ten tables and eleven ment. Like always you lie thru your teeth. Hey I admit I am bi-polar and not ashamed as you are obviously about your time in the "service" as you have shown no proof. Oh Nino and the gang at IF say "hi"....not!

* like to apologize i usualy don't swear on forums.:(

Doc, I don't know anything about your convention, but I can guarantee I know some pros who would do whatever they can to help.

Gail

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Christ, is there ANYTHING this guy didn't lie about?

Are we POSITIVE he's not a skrull?

Gail

Skrulls have more honor.

JP

[OzBat!]

I don't personally care about his military service. If he told one truth in the middle of so many ongoing and overlapping lies, so what? That one truth doesn't mitigate everything else.

[Rick Olney]

Rick, pay Ronée.

I will, just as soon as she decides to sign her release. Read my reply to Chris.

My standard order?!? Don't piss off the retailer, Rick. We wont carry your comic.

Well, be that as it may. You have a standard order on Indy material as every retailer does. I'm sure that you order what you can afford versus what sells in your store.

Don't piss off the creators, either. They wont come to your show or produce your comic. There are plenty of naive, hungry artists willing to work which is why this thread exists.

Well, I'm not concerned foolish as that sounds. They're no longer "creators" to me. Just "talents" that can either accept an invite or not.

Ronée is a friend. Gail is a friend. I don't appreciate that they've had to deal with this mess.

Sorry to read that. I don't have any problems with Ronee. There are parameters that despite how she sees it ... they exist and her situation won't clear up with that release signed. Even after a court battle, she'd win and still need to sign the release. And that opinion is from a retired Judge.

Answer me this one question and I'll buy your comic. Did you pay as promised for Gail's husband's ticket?

"Gail" doesn't have a husband. Legally.

[kmeyers]

By the way..I am contacting St Judes Children's research Hospital in the a.m. on Monday to see about whether any donations were ever made from Tightlip, Orca, or Rick Olney.


You see, I have done a lot of work in the medical field, and know a lot of doctors with pull.

And I have some free time.

And I have proof a blatant lie he has told tonight. It's a biggee.

That will appear soon.

How much you wanna bet that magically disappears from the internet in 5...4...3...

to no avail. you're so busted Olney, and not just legally.

[Rick Olney]

I don't personally care about his military service. If he told one truth in the middle of so many ongoing and overlapping lies, so what? That one truth doesn't mitigate everything else.

EXACTLY as I saw it!

[Ronée]

POINT ME TO YOUR LAWYER AND I WILL GO THERE PERSONALLY AND SIGN IT!

[colleen]

So grateful you called her a 'dumb ass' and said toxic things about her personal life?

Scott Shaw! called it. This is your 'reasonable' phase. Next is another blowup, then the apologies.

You can't even be original in your meltdowns.

And now, off to do some real work, for publishers who keep their word and pay when promised.

Gail

Moreover, when did the NDA demand morph into a "hold harmless agreement"?

[Papergirl]

I will, just as soon as she decides to sign her release. Read my reply to Chris.



Well, be that as it may. You have a standard order on Indy material as every retailer does. I'm sure that you order what you can afford versus what sells in your store.



Well, I'm not concerned foolish as that sounds. They're no longer "creators" to me. Just "talents" that can either accept an invite or not.



Sorry to read that. I don't have any problems with Ronee. There are parameters that despite how she sees it ... they exist and her situation won't clear up with that release signed. Even after a court battle, she'd win and still need to sign the release. And that opinion is from a retired Judge.



"Gail" doesn't have a husband. Legally.

~Bev

:D

[TCJohnson]

I don't think I've posted here yet - but I've been keeping up and I just have to ask:

Is it me or does the "New" Rick seem to have better grammar and spelling than the "old" Rick? When I was in grad school, we were trained to spot shifts in writing style as evidence of cheating/plagiarism. "New" Rick has a completely different style from the incoherent rants posted under the Orcafresh handle.

Just curious.

You will notice that the angrier he becomes, the worse his grammar and spelling becomes.

[Matt Algren]

I want to be clear here, Rick.

There are more than a few people here who have had email conversations with you, some extensively over a period of years. Are you saying that there is nothing unethical or untoward about them releasing each and every email that they received from you that doesn't have a confidentiality statement tacked to the bottom of it?

Think very carefully before you answer.Awaiting an answer . . .

[AaronJ]

EXACTLY as I saw it!

Oh man. I'm just ... aw heck. Might as well just leave it be.

[Koben Kelly]

Chris, you are entitled to your opinion, but whether or not my "career" (and that is your descriptive, not mine) is over remains to be seen..

See: denial

---Koben:)

[Rick Olney]

But there's no reason most people would. Unless the person in question was trying to hide/deny/remove traces of what they'd written. And why would a person do that?

Not sure that they need a reason or need to justify such an action, would they?

[Papergirl]

EXACTLY as I saw it!


Keeping up.

~Bev :D

[Larry Dixon]

Mr. Olney, since you have returned here and have comments, I am curious about something. I mentioned this in an earlier post.

Do you have a set definition you could share with us, for what a "plebe" is, and what a "troll" is? It's just that I am very interested in clear communication. Someone once told me that a contract is not so much a legal document as it is a meeting of the minds: that every party in the contract has that contract as a standardized reference, so they know what every other party involved means.

I ask about this to be sure everyone in the thread completely understands you, when you use those two terms, "plebe" and "troll."

[Papergirl]

Not sure that they need a reason or need to justify such an action, would they?

~Bev

:D

[kmeyers]

I don't personally care about his military service. If he told one truth in the middle of so many ongoing and overlapping lies, so what? That one truth doesn't mitigate everything else.

Seriously. If he's a Marine or not, is secondary to his fucking over several people.

It's nice to compile his list of lies, but even if he is a Marine, his behavior as a person is pretty obviously horrible.

[kmeyers]

EXACTLY as I saw it!

What do you think you saw eagle eye?

[JeffreyWKramer]

Not sure that they need a reason or need to justify such an action, would they?

I'm not asking about a need to justify anything. I'm asking what reason a person would have for doing it. People do things for reasons. We eat because we're hungry or we enjoy it. We yawn because we're tired. We laugh because we find something funny, or are tickled, or are nervous.

Why did you go about deleting all those posts? What was your reason for doing so?

[Gail Simone]

You twice said you paid for my husband's ticket, Rick.

Are you really such a lowlife that you can't answer this simple question?

Everyone here knows I use a pen name, along with several other creators in this industry.

So, when you paid for MY ticket, did you also, or ever, pay for my husband's ticket as you said here twice?

Simple question, only a weasel couldn't answer.

Are you a weasel, Rick?

Answer the question, stand up and be a man for once.

Gail

[OzBat!]

EXACTLY as I saw it!*snort*!

Rick... read the rest of my post. The truth or otherwise of your military career DOES NOT ABSOLVE THE REST OF YOUR LIES.

[Gail Simone]

Let me correct that. When you PARTIALLY REIMBURSED ME for my ticket, did you also, or ever, pay one thin dime towards my husband's ticket, as you've twice claimed here?

Gail

[kmeyers]

You will notice that the angrier he becomes, the worse his grammar and spelling becomes.

It was never very good.

But then, I give a thousand monkeys working on typewriters a better chance to produce a more coherent sentence.

[JeffreyWKramer]

It's nice to compile his list of lies, but even if he is a Marine, his behavior as a person is pretty obviously horrible.

And not very Marine-like.

[TCJohnson]

Gail!

Go! Write that sequel to the Secret Six! go Now! We can handle this until tomorrow!

If DC annouces delays of any of your books then the Whale will have won!

[DocAbsurd]

You will notice that the angrier he becomes, the worse his grammar and spelling becomes.

'Olney angry! Olney find no need for grammatical structure! Olney smash syntax!'

[Gail Simone]

How about this one...another simple question.

Did you tell Ronee you needed help 'securing your assets' because you were planning to leave your wife?

Simple question.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

Let me correct that. When you PARTIALLY REIMBURSED ME for my ticket, did you also, or ever, pay one thin dime towards my husband's ticket, as you've twice claimed here?

Gail

Phrase it like this...

Did you ever pay any money at all towards the plane ticket for the male human accompanying "Gail".

[THEDOC]

Doc, I don't know anything about your convention, but I can guarantee I know some pros who would do whatever they can to help.

Gail

Gee Gail that would be great...Wally Lowe or "Walrus" started the ball rolling from a comment I made to Ian years ago on the SPA.
Unlike "Rick" we are not promising anything we cannot deliver. We are starting small in Indiana in March. We will probably break even. We are trying to bring back the flavor of the old Joe Sarno Chicago ComicCon..we just love comics and get togethers. I would be prouid of any professional (I don't likke that term as there are no "amatuers" in Small Press). But like I said we cannot pay for folks to come out, we hope eventually we will take this on tour and possibly get folks like you out to one of these. Tim and Daphne I hope WILL be able to come out. This by the way is a one day convention. Please see link below or visit our website listed in my signature.
"Rick" is as usual playing head games well sir I am the "cerebral assasin" so watch yourself.

http://www.comicspace.com/thedoc/

[AaronJ]

'Olney angry! Olney find no need for grammatical structure! Olney smash syntax!'

Oh man. I'm tellin' ya: It's really bad having this many honest to goodness funny people in one thread.

[Gail Simone]

Gail!

Go! Write that sequel to the Secret Six! go Now! We can handle this until tomorrow!

If DC annouces delays of any of your books then the Whale will have won!

Dude, I wrote a MASSIVE amount of work this week. This hasn't even slowed me down.

And who needs Secret Six, man? Ostrander's SUICIDE SQUAD is coming back!

Gail, loves Ostrander

[TCJohnson]

Dude, I wrote a MASSIVE amount of work this week. This hasn't even slowed me down.

You are the one who keeps saying she needs to leave and write. :p



And who needs Secret Six, man? Ostrander's SUICIDE SQUAD is coming back!

Gail, loves Ostrander

......can't we have both?

[Gail Simone]

Gee Gail that would be great...Wally Lowe or "Walrus" started the ball rolling from a comment I made to Ian years ago on the SPA.
Unlike "Rick" we are not promising anything we cannot deliver. We are starting small in Indiana in March. We will probably break even. We are trying to bring back the flavor of the old Joe Sarno Chicago ComicCon..we just love comics and get togethers. I would be prouid of any professional (I don't likke that term as there are no "amatuers" in Small Press). But like I said we cannot pay for folks to come out, we hope eventually we will take this on tour and possibly get folks like you out to one of these. Tim and Daphne I hope WILL be able to come out. This by the way is a one day convention. Please see link below or visit our website listed in my signature.
"Rick" is as usual playing head games well sir I am the "cerebral assasin" so watch yourself.

http://www.comicspace.com/thedoc/


Even if we can't appear, I bet we can come up with some cool stuff for use as raffle or door prizes. Let's talk when I get back from the weekend, okay?

I'm quite sure a lot of pros would love to help anyone abused by Rick Olney.

Gail

[JeffreyWKramer]

And who needs Secret Six, man? Ostrander's SUICIDE SQUAD is coming back!

Gail, loves Ostrander

What? No shit!

This is fantastic news!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh man. I'm tellin' ya: It's really bad having this many honest to goodness funny people in one thread.

Or so many delusions of how law works!

[amboy00]

Chris, you are entitled to your opinion, but whether or not my "career" (and that is your descriptive, not mine) is over remains to be seen. Ronee still needs to sign a 'hold harmless' release in order to get what she earned from July until she left. I probably wouldn't have fared as well emotionally as I did if not for her. I hope she knows that I'm greatful.

No, Rick. Your career is over. The MMC is over, your comic is over, your reputation is ruined by your own actions.

It warms to cockles of my heart to hear how much you appreciate Ronée's support through your tough times. Maybe you could pay her in kind for that sheer display of gratitude. Or at least tell her how to contact your lawyer.

Your words mean nothing until you give Ronée her check.

[kmeyers]

He's offered to meet anyone anywhere. He's shown that he's a bully.

Could we make that an event for charity? Not a threat, but a real life, brawl for it all! That could rival the Ultimate Fighting Championship's revenue for Pay Per View.

[Sally Sensational]

'Olney angry! Olney find no need for grammatical structure! Olney smash syntax!'

Giggles.

I'll keep watching, but I still think it's odd. Wonder who is watching over his shoulder? What will happen when they leave? Can we anticipate another spectacular meltdown?

[TCJohnson]

What? No shit!

This is fantastic news!

They announced a new Suicide Squad limited series today, to come out around the end of 52.

[AaronJ]

Or so many delusions of how law works!

Yeah, that too.

I guess "Rick" isn't going to answer my question. I feel shamed now.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Giggles.

I'll keep watching, but I still think it's odd. Wonder who is watching over his shoulder? What will happen when they leave? Can we anticipate another spectacular meltdown?

Wife probably controls his access to the computer now. Seeing as SHE IS THE ONLY ONE WITH AN INCOME, AND THUS IS THE ONLY ONE PAYING THE ELECTRIC BILL.

[DocAbsurd]

Wait. Hear that hissing?

That's the sound of decompression as the atmosphere comes back into the room.

Moby's tired of us already.

[Papergirl]

He's offered to meet anyone anywhere. He's shown that he's a bully.

Could we make that an event for charity? Not a threat, but a real life, brawl for it all! That could rival the Ultimate Fighting Championship's revenue for Pay Per View.

We could use the funds to pay all the people he owes money to, and donate what's left over to a charity. :D

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yeah, that too.

I guess "Rick" isn't going to answer my question. I feel shamed now.

He may think you are a troll. That means he will only answer SOME of your questions. Followed by, "This is my last response"


Followed by more responses.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Wait. Hear that hissing?

That's the sound of decompression as the atmosphere comes back into the room.

Moby's tired of us already.

It's midnight. He turned back into a bag of crap.

[rummblestrips]

Just found my flier from the MMC 2003. (the one that actually went on)
On the front cover is the phrase and logo

BENEFITTING THE
ST. JUDE'S CHILDREN'S RESEARCH HOSPITAL,
AISAC Danny Thomas, Founder

Here's the link to the hospital
http://www.stjude.org/

Is there anyone on this board that knows how to find out if Rick Olney or OCRA did actually 'benefit' the hospital?
I assume the hospital would have to keep records of all the dontations that were given to it. Would this information be available publicly or would you need to file some legal papers to get that info.
Again, MMC was on May 10th, 2003

Very interested in finding out the truth.

quoting myself here. just letting you know I have the actual flyer so no matter how trigger happy Rick gets, I have it here, it can be scanned, it HAS the actual logo of St Jude's Children's Hospital on it. For the record, I actually hope he didn't screw a children's hospital.

[DocAbsurd]

It's midnight. He turned back into a bag of crap.

'Turned back'? That would be saying he's ever been anything other than a bag of crap.

[kmeyers]

It's midnight. He turned back into a bag of crap.

But there's peanuts in that crap.

[Dedagda]

Rick - you're ruining the show invites for the rest of us that work hard and pay our bills.

I've been inviting a few folks to do appearances and all I could think was "please let them trust this email after that Olney mess."

We were going with CAPE 3 - bride of CAPE. I'm liking CAPE 3*
*rick olney has absolutley nothing to do with our event. We've even urged Rick to pay his bills or at least apologize. Free magarita to the best rick joke! No NDAs were harmed in the making of this CAPE event.

[THEDOC]

Even if we can't appear, I bet we can come up with some cool stuff for use as raffle or door prizes. Let's talk when I get back from the weekend, okay?

I'm quite sure a lot of pros would love to help anyone abused by Rick Olney.

Gail

That would be great. Wally's idea for an entry fee is $5, or two cans of food to help the local pantry or give blood to the Red Cross that would be there. He is also getting some Hero Clix to use as a door prize. If you have any suggestions pleasse come and post at our forum..where everyone wins...even "Rick" if he ever gets his head on straight.
I would like to use maybe some 'freebies' to raffle off toward the defense fund against "Rick".

[sk716]

Oooh! I'm scared! It's Spooky!

"Your arm is gone!"
"It isn't!"

Mac, if I haven't said it before, you rock!

[OzBat!]

He's still here, he's just replying to stuff. He DID ask for time to go back and read, okay?

[AaronJ]

He may think you are a troll. That means he will only answer SOME of your questions. Followed by, "This is my last response"


Followed by more responses.

Yeah.

Does being a "troll" mean that at some point in the future I still can graduate to "plebe"? I'm not quite sure on the whole ranking system. This is all so confusing.

[Rick Olney]

See: denial

---Koben:)

If you're looking for an apology. Forget it. I did nothing to most of you people. I've seen lies produced in this thread. Want to see one? Read on!

Now, I don't have the headers on this. I actually forwarded the earlier copy to my attorney with headers intact. This was what "Gail" wrote to Dennis Kininger in concern to her insisting that she rode in MY car back in 2003 (that this conversation is taking place is ridiculous, but...)

Anyway, here's her reply:


Dennis,

I've said this I don't know HOW many times already, and it's sheer,
pure OLNEY that he didn't tell you I'd already shot this down several
times.

It was NOT you, it was NOT your car...it was RICK. I wouldn't say it
if he hadn't already said disgusting things about me (he said I worked
in porn, and some really vicious things about my appearance...who
cares, right? But that's why I said it) and others, including Scott
Shaw's family, some of the nicest people on Earth.

What it was was that the day of the con, Rick had terrible bo, bad
enough that my husband intentionally would sit next to him so I
wouldn't have to. And the one brief ride we took with Rick, our
clothes came out STINKING. Maybe he was stressed, but several people
mentioned it.

I have repeatedly kept you out of the mega thread at Yabs. No one has
anything bad to say about you, and when Rick tried to say I meant YOU
and not HIM (utter, utter bullcrap), I made it very clear that I meant
Rick. You can see for yourself. I never edit my posts, ever.

For the record, he tried this same thing with Ronee. When I said he
wrote terrible ad copy (which he does, as I'm sure you realize from
the Tightlip page) he went straight to Ronee and told her that I'd
bashed her writing, when she had NOTHING to do with it. I LIKE Ronee's
writing.

I'm not like Rick, Dennis. I'm very forthcoming with my genuine
opinions. I have zero beef with you, and had nothing but nice things
to say about you on that very long thread and everywhere else. I
can't, in fact, think of anyone who has ANYTHING bad to say about you.

The truth is, you have nothing to apologize for with the show. The
things that went wrong, the broken promises, the lies about payment,
that's all Rick's doing and everyone knows that. And please don't
worry about the ride back, we were exhausted too, and happy just to
rest quietly.

I even said on the thread that I enjoyed the trip with you as you
pointed out local sites.

Honest, Dennis, no one has any beef with you, and I'm even more mad at
Rick for trying this embarrassing little displacement stunt. I'd say
it's beneath him, but after reading all the people he's cheated and
lied to (and it's a LOT of people, and a lot more who haven't yet come
forward), I really can't imagine anything beneath the man.

I know he's your friend and you're a good friend for sticking by him,
but the lies and betrayal have got to stop, and I'm hoping this is a
wake-up call for him to make changes or get out of the business for
good. He's hurt too many people.

If you read the thread, you will see I said RICK and RICK's car, not
Dennis at all. When Rick twice tries to blame you, I correct him
FIRMLY twice.

I'm sorry, I'm just a little worn-out from his weirdness and threats.

Like I say, you and I have no beef whatsoever and I don't think anyone
else is mad at you, either.

Best wishes,

Gail

"Gail" would love to get between two friends. But in this case, it isn't going to work. I also have the truth about that rare odor that floated around the convention floor back in 2003 that Saturday. Read on:

Hi Rick,

Here's Gail's reply to me about my stinky car and, speaking of stinky,
while I'm on the subject, Mr. Bechy was in the library fumigating our
computer room today.

He tried pumping me for information on the June show and said that he
wanted to possibly buy a couple tables at the show to sell stuff he
has to help out his mother with some medical expenses (No, really!).

I held my tongue on advising him to seriously tend to his hygiene if
he was sincere about getting a vendor's permit and actually trying to
deal with customers at the show...otherwise, no one will get within 10
feet of him and any vendors near him will be bitching all day.
Although, I'll be happy to inform him anytime...he tends to evacuate
the computer room and those people have just as much right to be there
as he does.

So, I told him that vendors and tables was more your area than mine,
so would you mind sending him an email or information about tables
when you get a chance?

Thanks!


Yes, we have a couple of comic book readers that could use Hygene, but I'm not one of them. If I had an odor that day, it was because I spent the day running around trying to make sure everyone had eatten or was satisfied with their location. The college did me no favors on waiting until late Friday night to set up the over 300 tables and chairs. Anyway, if you look at these pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/1Mutch52.jpg

That's Joanne Mutch. I was always supportive of her book before that whole SPA blow-up thing. She looks pleased to be there back in 2003. Her husband came along and he got like 4 free tables (no charge!) from me to peddle his bootleg DVD's and VHS tapes to anyone checking out his set-up. If the panels sucked, then blame Tim Tobolski! He was in charge of the panels.

Yeah, go ahead and kick and bitch and moan and complain, but I'm not falling on my sword here. I am a person who is very vocal in his intentions. Yes, sometimes things don't fall into place, but I have not stolen anything from anyone. Never, besides being a kid that swiped a few .12 cent comics back at age 11 or 12.

[Matt Doc Martin]

quoting myself here. just letting you know I have the actual flyer so no matter how trigger happy Rick gets, I have it here, it can be scanned, it HAS the actual logo of St Jude's Children's Hospital on it. For the record, I actually hope he didn't screw a children's hospital.

I am SOOOO following up on this Monday.

[colleen]

No, Rick. Your career is over. The MMC is over, your comic is over, your reputation is ruined by your own actions.

It warms to cockles of my heart to hear how much you appreciate Ronée's support through your tough times. Maybe you could pay her in kind for that sheer display of gratitude. Or at least tell her how to contact your lawyer.

Your words mean nothing until you give Ronée her check.


HELLOOO! People notice. The NDA has become a demand for a hold harmless order.

A hold harmless order is a not an NDA. He wants Ronee to sign a release stating she won't sue his butt. That's what a hold harmless order is. Assuming he knows what a hold harmless order is and isn't talking out his hat.

But methinks he actually did talk to someone. Still doesn't have a lawyer though. No lawyer would allow his client to come on here and post. No way.

[rexmundi666]

I have a qestion for Onley are his "companies" nothing more then shell companies in order to rip off various writers,artists and such?

[Papergirl]

If you're looking for an apology. Forget it. I did nothing to most of you people. I've seen lies produced in this thread. Want to see one? Read on!

Now, I don't have the headers on this. I actually forwarded the earlier copy to my attorney with headers intact. This was what "Gail" wrote to Dennis Kininger in concern to her insisting that she rode in MY car back in 2003 (that this conversation is taking place is ridiculous, but...)

Anyway, here's her reply:


Dennis,

I've said this I don't know HOW many times already, and it's sheer,
pure OLNEY that he didn't tell you I'd already shot this down several
times.

It was NOT you, it was NOT your car...it was RICK. I wouldn't say it
if he hadn't already said disgusting things about me (he said I worked
in porn, and some really vicious things about my appearance...who
cares, right? But that's why I said it) and others, including Scott
Shaw's family, some of the nicest people on Earth.

What it was was that the day of the con, Rick had terrible bo, bad
enough that my husband intentionally would sit next to him so I
wouldn't have to. And the one brief ride we took with Rick, our
clothes came out STINKING. Maybe he was stressed, but several people
mentioned it.

I have repeatedly kept you out of the mega thread at Yabs. No one has
anything bad to say about you, and when Rick tried to say I meant YOU
and not HIM (utter, utter bullcrap), I made it very clear that I meant
Rick. You can see for yourself. I never edit my posts, ever.

For the record, he tried this same thing with Ronee. When I said he
wrote terrible ad copy (which he does, as I'm sure you realize from
the Tightlip page) he went straight to Ronee and told her that I'd
bashed her writing, when she had NOTHING to do with it. I LIKE Ronee's
writing.

I'm not like Rick, Dennis. I'm very forthcoming with my genuine
opinions. I have zero beef with you, and had nothing but nice things
to say about you on that very long thread and everywhere else. I
can't, in fact, think of anyone who has ANYTHING bad to say about you.

The truth is, you have nothing to apologize for with the show. The
things that went wrong, the broken promises, the lies about payment,
that's all Rick's doing and everyone knows that. And please don't
worry about the ride back, we were exhausted too, and happy just to
rest quietly.

I even said on the thread that I enjoyed the trip with you as you
pointed out local sites.

Honest, Dennis, no one has any beef with you, and I'm even more mad at
Rick for trying this embarrassing little displacement stunt. I'd say
it's beneath him, but after reading all the people he's cheated and
lied to (and it's a LOT of people, and a lot more who haven't yet come
forward), I really can't imagine anything beneath the man.

I know he's your friend and you're a good friend for sticking by him,
but the lies and betrayal have got to stop, and I'm hoping this is a
wake-up call for him to make changes or get out of the business for
good. He's hurt too many people.

If you read the thread, you will see I said RICK and RICK's car, not
Dennis at all. When Rick twice tries to blame you, I correct him
FIRMLY twice.

I'm sorry, I'm just a little worn-out from his weirdness and threats.

Like I say, you and I have no beef whatsoever and I don't think anyone
else is mad at you, either.

Best wishes,

Gail

"Gail" would love to get between two friends. But in this case, it isn't going to work. I also have the truth about that rare odor that floated around the convention floor back in 2003 that Saturday. Read on:

Hi Rick,

Here's Gail's reply to me about my stinky car and, speaking of stinky,
while I'm on the subject, Mr. Bechy was in the library fumigating our
computer room today.

He tried pumping me for information on the June show and said that he
wanted to possibly buy a couple tables at the show to sell stuff he
has to help out his mother with some medical expenses (No, really!).

I held my tongue on advising him to seriously tend to his hygiene if
he was sincere about getting a vendor's permit and actually trying to
deal with customers at the show...otherwise, no one will get within 10
feet of him and any vendors near him will be bitching all day.
Although, I'll be happy to inform him anytime...he tends to evacuate
the computer room and those people have just as much right to be there
as he does.

So, I told him that vendors and tables was more your area than mine,
so would you mind sending him an email or information about tables
when you get a chance?

Thanks!


Yes, we have a couple of comic book readers that could use Hygene, but I'm not one of them. If I had an odor that day, it was because I spent the day running around trying to make sure everyone had eatten or was satisfied with their location. The college did me no favors on waiting until late Friday night to set up the over 300 tables and chairs. Anyway, if you look at these pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/1Mutch52.jpg

That's Joanne Mutch. I was always supportive of her book before that whole SPA blow-up thing. She looks pleased to be there back in 2003. Her husband came along and he got like 4 free tables (no charge!) from me to peddle his bootleg DVD's and VHS tapes to anyone checking out his set-up. If the panels sucked, then blame Tim Tobolski! He was in charge of the panels.

Yeah, go ahead and kick and bitch and moan and complain, but I'm not falling on my sword here. I am a person who is very vocal in his intentions. Yes, sometimes things don't fall into place, but I have not stolen anything from anyone. Never, besides being a kid that swiped a few .12 cent comics back at age 11 or 12.

~Bev

:D

[heystacy]

That one line, buddy... that one line took me from being as pissed off as I already was, and multiplying that one hundredfold.

You ask people who know me... I'm generally regarded as a pretty nice guy. I'm not bragging in this respect, I can present a whole line-up of girls I went to high school and college with that were incredibly specific about this fact. I'm also usually nonconfrontational, often to a fault. I don't like fights. I don't like arguing.

But if there's one thing that will pull out my ire, that will send the blood rushing through my veins, that makes me flush red and sends sparks from my teeth and smoke from my ears... it's a bully. And make no mistake, that little line of bullshit is the work of nothing but a bully.

I waited on posting my story until after I made the official, legal announcement that I was extricating myself from this guy. Now, seeing him hurl this kind of vitriol against one of the people I care most about in the world... this is it. This is when the gloves come off.

The following is a slightly amended version of an e-mail I sent to Gail a few days ago. I told her I wasn't quite ready to put this out there yet. Now I am:

Until Ronee resigned a few weeks ago, I really had no idea what was going on with Rick. This thread has really opened my eyes and made me question things going back to the beginning of my association with him. After Ronee cut the deal with him to publish Evertime, he sent me a contract. When we were in negotiations, I had no delusions about making a fortune off this project -- a brand-new publisher, a writer nobody knows, an unproven property... the fact that it was getting ink at ALL was Heaven to me. Still, he offered me a page rate that I thought was more than fair. The only thing I wanted -- the only thing that was non-negotiable -- was that I wanted to retain ownership of the property. I have no problem with doing work for hire, and I'm even eager to do so, but this is a story I've been carrying around with me for 10 years. It's my baby. I didn't want to give that up. When I got the contract, though, as I scanned it over, I noticed something very disturbing. The one thing I insisted on, the clause making it clear that I retained copyright, was missing. Ronee and I brought that to Rick’s attention, and he told us that he’d simply made a mistake and sent us the earlier draft. I took him at his word, because at the time I had no reason to believe he was lying. As Ronee will be the first to tell you, my biggest flaw is that I’m too quick to believe the best in people.

We got the properly amended contract (properly amended, no doubt, since Ronee inserted the clause herself) and I sent Rick, via a private forum on his message board, descriptions of my main characters, a synopsis for the first four-issue arc and the full script for Evertime #1. After that, there wasn’t much communication for a while. At first, Rick again pointed to the death of his mother and the other family member, and I completely accepted it. I’ll forgive virtually anything if someone is doing it for the sake of their family. (See: my biggest flaw.)

After that, Ronee (still doing her kick-ass job as my manager) began to push him to seek out an artist so we could really get started on my book. Rick would periodically pop in, show me a piece of art from some artist or another and tell me, unequivocally, that this was the artist for my book. Then a few weeks later he’d pop back, tell me that artist was moving on to something else, and this new guy was unequivocally my artist. I should point out, here, that none of the art he was showing me had anything to do with Evertime. The art was work done for Tales of the Spooky or, sometimes, other publishers entirely. To date, I have not seen so much as a pencil sketch of one of my characters or concepts from anybody employed by Tightlip Entertainment.

The day Ronee left the company, Rick sent me a message asking what my status with him was, and I told him I needed to talk to her about it all. Ronee is my manager, but she’s also one of my dearest friends, and if she was bailing on this guy, I needed to know why. She advised me, from then on, to direct all communication with Rick through her. Since then, I’ve gotten two more messages from him, the first informing me that he will retain the rights to publish my book (emphasis his), the second to tell me that, despite what “Gail Simone” said (quotation marks his) this would all be worked out legally soon. I have not replied to him.

The only reason I haven’t spoken up yet is because of the NDA. I wanted to make sure I wasn’t opening myself up to any action from the guy. (Flaw #2: I’m a man of my word. Flaw #3: I’m the most neurotic guy this side of Woody Allen.) But I’m pretty frustrated about this whole situation. I don’t in any way think I’ve been nearly as wronged as Val or Mike or the other guys. True, he’s never paid me a dime, but I also didn’t write anything on his watch. The only script I’ve turned in to him was finished long before I knew who he is, and nothing I’ve produced since then will ever see his eyes, unless I’m feeling sadistic enough to send him a comp copy should it ever actually make it to print. I don’t feel like I’ve been cheated out of money, I feel like I’ve been cheated out of TIME. I’ve lost six months I could have used shopping this around to legitimate publishers, or pouring energy into different projects instead of something that wasn’t nearly close to publication as I was led to believe. All I want at this point is to know I can take the book somewhere else without worrying about the stink of this guy coming with me.


The more I hear of this guy the angrier I get. Blake I'm sorry he did that to you.

[Matt Doc Martin]

There is NOTHING in the post Olney just has that proves it was not his car. And he admits BO.

[OzBat!]

Rick: photos of artists and writers posing with their work with happy expressions on their does not constitute proof of an enjoyable successful convention.

[Matt Doc Martin]

HELLOOO! People notice. The NDA has become a demand for a hold harmless order.

A hold harmless order is a not an NDA. He wants Ronee to sign a release stating she won't sue his butt. That's what a hold harmless order is. Assuming he knows what a hold harmless order is and isn't talking out his hat.

But methinks he actually did talk to someone. Still doesn't have a lawyer though. No lawyer would allow his client to come on here and post. No way.

I think she should sue his butt.

[Kurt Busiek]

You know who DID sleep their way in?

Mr. K. Busiek. That's what I heard.

It's true. Near the end of my senior year in college, I fell asleep, and when I woke up I was working in the comics industry.

I still don't know how it happened.

kdb

[Spackling Compound]

You twice said you paid for my husband's ticket, Rick.

Are you really such a lowlife that you can't answer this simple question?

Everyone here knows I use a pen name, along with several other creators in this industry.

So, when you paid for MY ticket, did you also, or ever, pay for my husband's ticket as you said here twice?

Simple question, only a weasel couldn't answer.

Are you a weasel, Rick?

Answer the question, stand up and be a man for once.

Gail

This question is like yellow to Olney's power ring.

Maybe if there were some cute pictures or the words "military" involved he may give it a glance.

[TCJohnson]

Now, I don't have the headers on this. I actually forwarded the earlier copy to my attorney with headers intact. This was what "Gail" wrote to Dennis Kininger in concern to her insisting that she rode in MY car back in 2003 (that this conversation is taking place is ridiculous, but...)



She has never said this on this board.

[bert]

Boy are you ever behind. See you in a few hours!


yeah, I've been trying not to read it at work (and not succeeding. . can I sue if I get fired for being on the internet so much?)

then again, being behind, meant I didn't know what was coming up. . . imagine my joy and surprise, when the slumbering creatures stirred, (and spoke!) on page 417.

[Spackling Compound]

It's true. Near the end of my senior year in college, I fell asleep, and when I woke up I was working in the comics industry.

I still don't know how it happened.

kdb

Yeah, but some of us are glad it did.
A round of RUFies for Busiek!

[Rick Olney]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg

Know who that is sitting next to me? It is "Gail Simone" along with her alter ego's husband, and my Uncle Heidi. (in her lime green undies) Sorry Heidi, I had to mention them. Sue me. :D

"Gail" has made a lot to do about nothing. Yes, it was a small event. But we covered all her costs except the monies she never sent the receipts in on her Saturday night meal ... and I believe breakfast the next morning, if it totaled $100 dollars. That's how I saw it then, "Gail" ... it is how I see it now.

[OzBat!]

HELLOOO! People notice. The NDA has become a demand for a hold harmless order.

A hold harmless order is a not an NDA. He wants Ronee to sign a release stating she won't sue his butt. That's what a hold harmless order is. Assuming he knows what a hold harmless order is and isn't talking out his hat.

But methinks he actually did talk to someone. Still doesn't have a lawyer though. No lawyer would allow his client to come on here and post. No way.Thanks colleen. I did notice the change, but wasn't aware of how much of a change it was. He's basically asking them now to promise not to sue in order to free up their payments?

[amboy00]

HELLOOO! People notice. The NDA has become a demand for a hold harmless order.

A hold harmless order is a not an NDA. He wants Ronee to sign a release stating she won't sue his butt. That's what a hold harmless order is. Assuming he knows what a hold harmless order is and isn't talking out his hat.

But methinks he actually did talk to someone. Still doesn't have a lawyer though. No lawyer would allow his client to come on here and post. No way.
It's hard to keep track when the rules keep changing.

[Rick Olney]

She has never said this on this board.

You need to go all the way back to post #1 and reread, Mr. Johnson. She did indeed say that very thing!

[Papergirl]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg

Know who that is sitting next to me? It is "Gail Simone" along with her alter ego's husband, and my Uncle Heidi. (in her lime green undies) Sorry Heidi, I had to mention them. Sue me. :D

"Gail" has made a lot to do about nothing. Yes, it was a small event. But we covered all her costs except the monies she never sent the receipts in on her Saturday night meal ... and I believe breakfast the next morning, if it totaled $100 dollars. That's how I saw it then, "Gail" ... it is how I see it now.

Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Spackling Compound]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg

Know who that is sitting next to me? It is "Gail Simone" along with her alter ego's husband, and my Uncle Heidi. (in her lime green undies) Sorry Heidi, I had to mention them. Sue me. :D

"Gail" has made a lot to do about nothing. Yes, it was a small event. But we covered all her costs except the monies she never sent the receipts in on her Saturday night meal ... and I believe breakfast the next morning, if it totaled $100 dollars. That's how I saw it then, "Gail" ... it is how I see it now.

Yeah, but you see "Uncles" and underwear there too...
I'm looking but see nothing of the sort.

[Papergirl]

You need to go all the way back to post #1 and reread, Mr. Johnson. She did indeed say that very thing!

Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Matt Doc Martin]

Quoted!

~Bev

:D

You are a very enjoyable person.

[Rick Olney]

It's hard to keep track when the rules keep changing.

No. The hold harmless is what my attorney requires for Ronee to get paid. I initially required her to sign her NDA and Contract, and I was corrected recently and told that a hold harmless will do, Colleen.

[DocAbsurd]

If the panels sucked, then blame Tim Tobolski! He was in charge of the panels.

Trying to fob off more blame, Moby?

Sorry, I was in charge of 1 panel. 1. Hold up your middle finger and count. There ya go.

No-one said my panel sucked. If you'll take the time to re-read (sorry, in your case read for the first time), you'll see that Gail and JoAnne both said they enjoyed it immensely. And the few attendees agreed. Which means my panel didn't suck, despite my having a fever and the flu.

Sorry, Moby, what everyone was saying was that attendance sucked. There were more guests at the show at any one time than paying attendees.

Your promotion of the show sucked.

[OzBat!]

Again Rick, you're ignoring the fact that most professional writers and artists are more than accommodating in putting on happy faces when posing for pictures. They do this for their fans. There is absolutely no correlation between posing for a photo with a smile, to being personally happy with the way you ran your convention.

[Papergirl]

You are a very enjoyable person.

Thankya!

MWAH!

~Bev

[JeffreyWKramer]

It is "Gail Simone" along with her alter ego's husband,

And what about this thing with the alter ego's husband's airfare?

[Gail Simone]

If you're looking for an apology. Forget it. I did nothing to most of you people. I've seen lies produced in this thread. Want to see one? Read on!

Now, I don't have the headers on this. I actually forwarded the earlier copy to my attorney with headers intact. This was what "Gail" wrote to Dennis Kininger in concern to her insisting that she rode in MY car back in 2003 (that this conversation is taking place is ridiculous, but...)

Anyway, here's her reply:


Dennis,

I've said this I don't know HOW many times already, and it's sheer,
pure OLNEY that he didn't tell you I'd already shot this down several
times.

It was NOT you, it was NOT your car...it was RICK. I wouldn't say it
if he hadn't already said disgusting things about me (he said I worked
in porn, and some really vicious things about my appearance...who
cares, right? But that's why I said it) and others, including Scott
Shaw's family, some of the nicest people on Earth.

What it was was that the day of the con, Rick had terrible bo, bad
enough that my husband intentionally would sit next to him so I
wouldn't have to. And the one brief ride we took with Rick, our
clothes came out STINKING. Maybe he was stressed, but several people
mentioned it.

I have repeatedly kept you out of the mega thread at Yabs. No one has
anything bad to say about you, and when Rick tried to say I meant YOU
and not HIM (utter, utter bullcrap), I made it very clear that I meant
Rick. You can see for yourself. I never edit my posts, ever.

For the record, he tried this same thing with Ronee. When I said he
wrote terrible ad copy (which he does, as I'm sure you realize from
the Tightlip page) he went straight to Ronee and told her that I'd
bashed her writing, when she had NOTHING to do with it. I LIKE Ronee's
writing.

I'm not like Rick, Dennis. I'm very forthcoming with my genuine
opinions. I have zero beef with you, and had nothing but nice things
to say about you on that very long thread and everywhere else. I
can't, in fact, think of anyone who has ANYTHING bad to say about you.

The truth is, you have nothing to apologize for with the show. The
things that went wrong, the broken promises, the lies about payment,
that's all Rick's doing and everyone knows that. And please don't
worry about the ride back, we were exhausted too, and happy just to
rest quietly.

I even said on the thread that I enjoyed the trip with you as you
pointed out local sites.

Honest, Dennis, no one has any beef with you, and I'm even more mad at
Rick for trying this embarrassing little displacement stunt. I'd say
it's beneath him, but after reading all the people he's cheated and
lied to (and it's a LOT of people, and a lot more who haven't yet come
forward), I really can't imagine anything beneath the man.

I know he's your friend and you're a good friend for sticking by him,
but the lies and betrayal have got to stop, and I'm hoping this is a
wake-up call for him to make changes or get out of the business for
good. He's hurt too many people.

If you read the thread, you will see I said RICK and RICK's car, not
Dennis at all. When Rick twice tries to blame you, I correct him
FIRMLY twice.

I'm sorry, I'm just a little worn-out from his weirdness and threats.

Like I say, you and I have no beef whatsoever and I don't think anyone
else is mad at you, either.

Best wishes,

Gail

"Gail" would love to get between two friends. But in this case, it isn't going to work. I also have the truth about that rare odor that floated around the convention floor back in 2003 that Saturday. Read on:

Hi Rick,

Here's Gail's reply to me about my stinky car and, speaking of stinky,
while I'm on the subject, Mr. Bechy was in the library fumigating our
computer room today.

He tried pumping me for information on the June show and said that he
wanted to possibly buy a couple tables at the show to sell stuff he
has to help out his mother with some medical expenses (No, really!).

I held my tongue on advising him to seriously tend to his hygiene if
he was sincere about getting a vendor's permit and actually trying to
deal with customers at the show...otherwise, no one will get within 10
feet of him and any vendors near him will be bitching all day.
Although, I'll be happy to inform him anytime...he tends to evacuate
the computer room and those people have just as much right to be there
as he does.

So, I told him that vendors and tables was more your area than mine,
so would you mind sending him an email or information about tables
when you get a chance?

Thanks!


Yes, we have a couple of comic book readers that could use Hygene, but I'm not one of them. If I had an odor that day, it was because I spent the day running around trying to make sure everyone had eatten or was satisfied with their location. The college did me no favors on waiting until late Friday night to set up the over 300 tables and chairs. Anyway, if you look at these pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/1Mutch52.jpg

That's Joanne Mutch. I was always supportive of her book before that whole SPA blow-up thing. She looks pleased to be there back in 2003. Her husband came along and he got like 4 free tables (no charge!) from me to peddle his bootleg DVD's and VHS tapes to anyone checking out his set-up. If the panels sucked, then blame Tim Tobolski! He was in charge of the panels.

Yeah, go ahead and kick and bitch and moan and complain, but I'm not falling on my sword here. I am a person who is very vocal in his intentions. Yes, sometimes things don't fall into place, but I have not stolen anything from anyone. Never, besides being a kid that swiped a few .12 cent comics back at age 11 or 12.


Not paying someone monies owed IS stealing, you deadbeat.

Interesting bunch of reveals, Rick!

First, note that MY story never changed an IOTA. Why?

Because I was telling the TRUTH, Rick.

You claimed I confessed a lie to Dennis on this very thread. WHERE IS IT, LIAR? Everything on that mail is 100% consistent with what I've said all along, every single word. EVERY. WORD.

But YOU'VE changed your story several times. And as I've said several times, it might well BE that the con was what made you stink that day, but stink you did, and it was the topic of much discussion.


And by the way, Dennis's last several emails have been nothing but pleasant and I do wish you'd be a man and keep him OUT of it. He's been too good a friend to you to keep using him like this.

So.

Did you pay ONE DIME towards my husband's airfare, as you've said here twice?

And did you tell Ronee you needed her to help 'secure your assets' because you were leaving your wife?

Gail

[TCJohnson]

You are a very enjoyable person.

And don't forget childish...but in a good way.

[Papergirl]

No. The hold harmless is what my attorney requires for Ronee to get paid. I initially required her to sign her NDA and Contract, and I was corrected recently and told that a hold harmless will do, Colleen.

Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[AaronJ]

Again Rick, you're ignoring the fact that most professional writers and artists are more than accommodating in putting on happy faces when posing for pictures. They do this for their fans. There is absolutely no correlation between posing for a photo with a smile, to being personally happy with the way you ran your convention.

Yeah, no one is questioning that those people were *present*.

[kmeyers]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg

Know who that is sitting next to me? It is "Gail Simone" along with her alter ego's husband, and my Uncle Heidi. (in her lime green undies) Sorry Heidi, I had to mention them. Sue me. :D

"Gail" has made a lot to do about nothing. Yes, it was a small event. But we covered all her costs except the monies she never sent the receipts in on her Saturday night meal ... and I believe breakfast the next morning, if it totaled $100 dollars. That's how I saw it then, "Gail" ... it is how I see it now.

HOLY SHIT! I have a beard, so I must be you!

She doesn't EVER deny meeting you,This photo proves Jack and also Shit, but mostly just that you suck as a person, in person.

edit: Whoever took the photo, nice composition. Not sarcastic.

[TomStillwell]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/ORCA/MMC2.jpg

Know who that is sitting next to me? It is "Gail Simone" along with her alter ego's husband, and my Uncle Heidi. (in her lime green undies) Sorry Heidi, I had to mention them. Sue me. :D

"Gail" has made a lot to do about nothing. Yes, it was a small event. But we covered all her costs except the monies she never sent the receipts in on her Saturday night meal ... and I believe breakfast the next morning, if it totaled $100 dollars. That's how I saw it then, "Gail" ... it is how I see it now.

That looks like Gail's husband was ready to kick your ass and only her good nature was standing (or sitting I guess) between the two of you.

[amboy00]

No. The hold harmless is what my attorney requires for Ronee to get paid. I initially required her to sign her NDA and Contract, and I was corrected recently and told that a hold harmless will do, Colleen.

That would be really hard to do since she can't contact your imaginary attorney.

[OzBat!]

No. The hold harmless is what my attorney requires for Ronee to get paid. I initially required her to sign her NDA and Contract, and I was corrected recently and told that a hold harmless will do, Colleen.Okay, now I'm confused. Is this the same attorney whose advice you've been hiding behind all this time, now changing their minds? 'Cause I'm wondering also if their advice is going to change soon over the Chuck Dixon situation.

[Gail Simone]

Trying to fob off more blame, Moby?

Sorry, I was in charge of 1 panel. 1. Hold up your middle finger and count. There ya go.

No-one said my panel sucked. If you'll take the time to re-read (sorry, in your case read for the first time), you'll see that Gail and JoAnne both said they enjoyed it immensely. And the few attendees agreed. Which means my panel didn't suck, despite my having a fever and the flu.

Sorry, Moby, what everyone was saying was that attendance sucked. There were more guests at the show at any one time than paying attendees.

Your promotion of the show sucked.



Exactly. The PANEL was fun, lively, and well-moderated.

The attendance of the show was so bad that most of the pros left their tables to go play football (but not me, I stayed the entire time) and NO ONE EVEN NOTICED.

It was ridiculous. Tim did good, Dennis did good.

The failure is all pure OLNEY.

Gail

[Ronée]

No. The hold harmless is what my attorney requires for Ronee to get paid. I initially required her to sign her NDA and Contract, and I was corrected recently and told that a hold harmless will do, Colleen.give me your lawyers contact info and I will go sign it!!!

Everyone sees me saying this right?

Am I invisible?

Point is Rick, you do not want to divuldge that info because you have no lawyer!!! All I want is to DO what you asked of me.

[Papergirl]

And don't forget childish...but in a good way.

Awwww... Peanut is jealous!

Quoted!

~Bev

:D

[Matt Doc Martin]

That would be really hard to do since she can't contact your imaginary attorney.


You just have to close your eyes and really believe.


And click your heels 3 times.

And wake up in Olney-world.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

What? No shit!

This is fantastic news!

Yeah JWK...we get that and Brave & the Bold !! HELL YES. :D

[Mark Waid]

I have not stolen anything from anyone. Never

You have, however, by your own clear-as-glass claim, rerouted funds intended to pay people months ago--people who violated no NDA nor defaulted in any way--in order to go after others against whom you DO claim a grievance. We generally refer to that as "robbing Peter to pay Paul."

You're still being allowed to post here? I can't decide if your lawyer is insane or just incompetent. Oh, but I GUESS I'LL FIND OUT, HUH?

[Gail Simone]

That looks like Gail's husband was ready to kick your ass and only her good nature was standing (or sitting I guess) between the two of you.

That's the exact spot where he was so obnoxious to those two girls in costumes, as I told about previously.

And yeah, my husband thought he was a creep the moment he laid eyes on him.

He's smarter than I am.

Gail