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KevinTBrown
01-12-2007, 04:26 PM
i wanted to post post #6000

And I reply with reply #6,000.


:D

TomWaltz
01-12-2007, 04:26 PM
It is an excellent book. I would say the first issue is good but then it gets better and I really enjoyed the ending.

Plus, Tom Waltz is an all-around good guy.


I love you, Corrina!

:)

Thanks so much for the kind words about CHILDREN OF THE GRAVE. Artist Casey Maloney and I just found out from IDW that the trade has sold out at Diamond -- even after they overprinted the first run -- so we're pretty stoked about that. Anyone still wanting to check it out can find it at Amazon.com, BarnesandNoble.com, etc. -- or possibly their local comics seller (which is where we encourage you to look first). No news on a second printing yet -- it's a matter of supply and demand at this point.

In the meantime, both Casey and I have a lot of cool things on tap for 2007. It should be a great year, and all the support we've gotten from wonderful folks like Corrina (we really do love you!) is truly, truly appreciated.

Best,

Tom Waltz

AIPman1
01-12-2007, 04:26 PM
nope!!! I got it, I am immortal!!!

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 04:27 PM
Again, let me ask.

Why would anyone, at this point, seeing the endless parade of people he's cheated and lied to, some former close friends included, want to have anything to do with this 'man?'

I'm curious...I highly doubt that he has six artists working on anything. I'll frankly be amazed if anyone affiliated with either Tightlip or Orca is anything and humiliated.

Gail

TomWaltz
01-12-2007, 04:28 PM
That's a good 2 cents spent.

Thanks and Semper Fi, Tom.


Semper Fi!

Tom

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 04:28 PM
I love you, Corrina!

:)

Thanks so much for the kind words about CHILDREN OF THE GRAVE. Artist Casey Maloney and I just found out from IDW that the trade has sold out at Diamond -- even after they overprinted the first run -- so we're pretty stoked about that. Anyone still wanting to check it out can find it at Amazon.com, BarnesandNoble.com, etc. -- or possibly their local comics seller (which is where we encourage you to look first). No news on a second printing yet -- it's a matter of supply and demand at this point.

In the meantime, both Casey and I have a lot of cool things on tap for 2007. It should be a great year, and all the support we've gotten from wonderful folks like Corrina (we really do love you!) is truly, truly appreciated.

Best,

Tom Waltz

Huh.

I wanna see it. Next printing, I guess.

Gail

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 04:28 PM
More from Captain Pathetic:

"Gail" remarks...


I think the funniest thing is, after all his blowhardery, all his quackackifying, about how loved he is and all his connections--

--still not one person defending him. Not an Orca member, not one of the pros from his 'cons,' not a retailer, and obviously no creators from his vanity books.

No one. It's like the arctic tundra everywhere regarding anyone who still has something nice to say about him.

If my friend was being attacked, in a way I felt was unfair, no lawsuit, no NOTHIN' would stop me from jumping in to defend him or her.

Interesting that no one, and I mean NO ONE, feels that way about Rick Olney.

Gail



Are you really that inept as to think anyone wants to climb into that cesspool of a thread you've created. Look! Your entire forums stinks of exactly what you profess that I smell like.


No, this is a matter for truth and honesty. As with what Dennis Kininger emailed me recently. Which, rather than betray him by posting it, I've simply handed it over to my attorney headers and all.


Pot calling the kettle black, I'd say!

Translation: "I got nuthin."

Darediva
01-12-2007, 04:29 PM
I love it when people try to impress me with "war stories". Rick claims on his myspace page that he is 52. Uh. Huh. If so, he would have graduated high school in 1972. Did he get drafted? I doubt he would remember, being a "G-4" after six years.

Oh, I get it. The guy smoked his brains out while "in country", and that's what led to all this baloney he's trying to give us now. Wait. The Marines didn't put up with that kind of thing. They have honor, after all.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 04:32 PM
"re you really that inept as to think anyone wants to climb into that cesspool of a thread you've created. Look! Your entire forums stinks of exactly what you profess that I smell like.


No, this is a matter for truth and honesty. As with what Dennis Kininger emailed me recently. Which, rather than betray him by posting it, I've simply handed it over to my attorney headers and all.


Pot calling the kettle black, I'd say!

Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 3:19 PM
[Reply to this]"


Oh, your fake attorney? The one you've threatened people with for five years or more now? I'm so terribly terribly fwightened!

And I have plenty of email from Dennis, too. Quit bringing him into it, idiot, as you know full well I've got two emails from him saying you were a deadbeat even back then.


And your hands will be quite full, deadbeat.

And as I said, I would throw myself in front of on oncoming train for my friends. I'm sorry, but not surprised, that no one will post ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, in defense of you.

Some friends you have, pal. It says a lot, right there.

Gail

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 04:32 PM
Hey Dick, it's awful quiet over there. Isn't it about time for you to start deleting stuff from your blog again?

Paul D. Storrie
01-12-2007, 04:34 PM
I'm actually trying to sleep my way OUT of the business.

But if you do that, how will you continue to keep all the aspiring creators down?

PDS

Corrina
01-12-2007, 04:35 PM
Huh.

I wanna see it. Next printing, I guess.

Gail

I'd send you my copies but they're autographed, so I'm keepin' em. :)

I did an interview with Tom about Children of the Grave on the Sequential Tart site. Let me see if I can pull up the web addy:

http://www.sequentialtart.com/archive/jan05/doi_0105.shtml

And I love you too, Tom. Especially since I just discovered you quoted me for promo copy. :)

And peanut, threatening Gail with lawsuits and claiming Tom S. is doing something illegal by investigating documents that are public domain?
hahahahahaha.

Recant: Definitely a Freudian and very telling slip. Assuming his subconscious has some working knowledge of basic vocabulary.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 04:35 PM
He's such a HERO!

Can't stand it anywhere where he can't delete his lame 'zingers.'

What about all the people on this thread you've cheated, Rick?

Are they ALL in on the conspiracy (Olney-Doesn't-Pay-EVERGate)?

Gail

Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 04:36 PM
Let me see if I can sum this up... he gets legal advice to stop posting here, so instead he cut and pastes stuff into his own blog.

scratchscratchscratch

Someone explain to me how this shields him. I'm no lawyer, I'm not getting it.

Wil Radcliffe
01-12-2007, 04:36 PM
:spit take:

Thank you. That was good.

I was hoping someone would catch it. :)

Darediva
01-12-2007, 04:38 PM
Say, did ANYONE ever get one of the promised coffee mugs with the MMC logo that Mr. OrcaPoop promised us all if we showed up when he hosted a chat waaaaaaaaaay back when on the SPA chats?

Funny, mine must have gotten lost in the frickin' mail.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 04:38 PM
Let me see if I can sum this up... he gets legal advice to stop posting here, so instead he cut and pastes stuff into his own blog.

scratchscratchscratch

Someone explain to me how this shields him. I'm no lawyer, I'm not getting it.

a) There's no lawyer, and...

b) He lies constantly.

That make it any clearer? :)

Gail

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 04:40 PM
Say, did ANYONE ever get one of the promised coffee mugs with the MMC logo that Mr. OrcaPoop promised us all if we showed up when he hosted a chat waaaaaaaaaay back when on the SPA chats?

Funny, mine must have gotten lost in the frickin' mail.

Ha!

Speedline cheating, the ability to cheat several people at once!

He musta been walking on air the day he came up with a way to lie to people faster than one at a time!

Gail

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 04:41 PM
Tom's got some good stuff...bless his digging heart!

Gail

TEASE!!!

:p

~Bev

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 04:42 PM
"Hmm... "homophobic and woman hating?" Not exactly, and I hope you CAN back up those tag names in a civil complaint. There are specific descriptive clearly defined that identify a person one way or the other. Hopefully you're aware of what they are versus just shooting your mouth off."

Certainly can, Rick, and I've already asked a REAL lawyer.

Good luck, deadbeat!


Gail

PS. For god's sake will you get an editor? Reading your posts is like playing Scrabble with a monkey.

Daneault
01-12-2007, 04:43 PM
Ha!

Speedline cheating, the ability to cheat several people at once!

He musta been walking on air the day he came up with a way to lie to people faster than one at a time!

Gail

http://www.forumspile.com/LOL-ROFL_Copter.gif

http://64.207.137.124/forums/images/smilies/misc/LOLFloor.gif

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 04:44 PM
You know, it's interesting. If you do a search on "Rick Olney," it's almost nothing but discredited bullshit and sites that are condemning him for the liar and deadbeat he is.

Wouldn't that depress a normal person, that the world KNOWS you're a deadbeat who cheats honest artists and retailers?

Gail

Comcman
01-12-2007, 04:44 PM
Hmm... "homophobic and woman hating?" Not exactly, and I hope you CAN back up those tag names in a civil complaint. There are specific descriptive clearly defined that identify a person one way or the other. Hopefully you're aware of what they are versus just shooting your mouth off.

Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 3:40 PM
[Reply to this]

What does the bold sentence mean? In English, I mean.

Larry Dixon
01-12-2007, 04:46 PM
Kevin, that's just dirty.

And, before you say anything about my being a perv, too...

I don't have your damn leather chaps!

---Koben

*I* do. Cummmm-fy.

-turns and poses-

Mike Bullock
01-12-2007, 04:46 PM
I'm no lawyer, I'm not getting it.

Neither is he... on either count.

TomWaltz
01-12-2007, 04:48 PM
Okay, this is off topic, but it was too funny not to share.

Anyone who's read my IDW-published trade paperback, CHILDREN OF THE GRAVE, knows that my good buddy, Beau Smith, provided the kick butt intro that starts the book off. Well, thanks to my other buddy, Dwight L. MacPherson, the truth can finally be told as to why Beau had such nice things to say about me. Apparently, Beau and I are one in the same.

After seeing this pic, IDW EIC Chris Ryall said, "This is one for Rich Johnston's swipe file!"

Beau, on the other hand, was probably more accurate in his assessment: "Looks like a wanted poster for the Cornbread Mafia."

:rolleyes:


31294

Wil Radcliffe
01-12-2007, 04:51 PM
Ian Shires said, "i wanted to post post #6000"

Quit your crying you little girl. I'll remember THAT day for a long, long, time.

http://www.comedianbrianhiggins.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/shocked.jpeg

Matt Algren
01-12-2007, 04:52 PM
No entiendo.

___________________________
Rick from TightLip Entertainment


Ian Shires said, "i wanted to post post #6000"

Quit your crying you little girl. I'll remember THAT day for a long, long, time.

Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 7:47 AM
[Reply to this]

____________________________

Darediva
01-12-2007, 04:52 PM
Ha!

Speedline cheating, the ability to cheat several people at once!

He musta been walking on air the day he came up with a way to lie to people faster than one at a time!

Gail

No joking there! Well, you know there is nothing lower than orca poop, my new pseudonym for "Rick".

kingdom2000
01-12-2007, 04:54 PM
Is it me or does it seem the crux of Olney's "defense" for all his behavior and this thread is claiming that Gail...mean "Gail" is incorrect? His comments seem to be directed at saying the $100 and airfare thing is wrong...therefore everything else is wrong too. Considering each is a unique and seperate event involving different individuals, even if the Gods smiled from above and erased all records enabling to emerge victorious in his claim about Gail's story...that still leaves a dozens of people left to deal with. He just has a really bizarre way of looking at the whole it seems.

Of course, considering the way he keeps quoting the "law" from Olneyland, his logic is highly suspect to begin with.

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 04:55 PM
http://www.comedianbrianhiggins.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/shocked.jpeg

In the words of Terry Pratchett: "I always thought baby orangutans look like surprised coconuts."

Matt Doc Martin
01-12-2007, 04:57 PM
Libel is studied in forensics. In many, though not all, legal systems, statements presented as fact must be false to be defamatory. Proving a defamatory statement to be true is often the best defense against a prosecution for libel.

Come get me for libel, peanut.

Come get me.

The statement "Rick Olney" never paid me is not libelous.

The reason CafePress did not want to run the shirts is because YOU threatened them and they don't know that you are a narcissistic blowhard with no money and no attorney.

So sue me for libel.

Or, blow me.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 04:59 PM
Is it me or does it seem the crux of Olney's "defense" for all his behavior and this thread is claiming that Gail...mean "Gail" is incorrect? His comments seem to be directed at saying the $100 and airfare thing is wrong...therefore everything else is wrong too. Considering each is a unique and seperate event involving different individuals, even if the Gods smiled from above and erased all records enabling to emerge victorious in his claim about Gail's story...that still leaves a dozens of people left to deal with. He just has a really bizarre way of looking at the whole it seems.

Of course, considering the way he keeps quoting the "law" from Olneyland, his logic is highly suspect to begin with.

He's also claimed twice that he paid my husband's airfare, a flat-out lie he's too stupid to RECANT. *

* Note that I actually know what the word 'RECANT' means.

Gail

Matt Doc Martin
01-12-2007, 04:59 PM
How many summons have you recieved?

How will you be filing your lawsuit? (ie: small claims, etc.)

I am in my last year of law school and need to take on my first case. I may be able to help you.




Oh oh...he almost has a lawyer now.... another year or two an she will be a real one!

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:02 PM
Oh oh...he almost has a lawyer now.... another year or two an she will be a real one!

Hahahahahahaha!

Oh, my god, that's hilarious.


Gail

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 05:03 PM
Are you really that inept as to think anyone wants to climb into that cesspool of a thread you've created.

Considering that this thread has had more newcomers/lurkers speak up in this thread than in any other thread in the two years I have been posting here...I would say that yes, people are jumping in...all to talk about how much they dislike Mr. Olney

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 05:03 PM
Oh oh...he almost has a lawyer now.... another year or two an she will be a real one!

I'm a'shakin' in my boots now...


Okay. No. I couldn't type that with a straight face.

~Bev
Laughing herself silly at Peanut.

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 05:06 PM
Considering that this thread has had more newcomers/lurkers speak up in this thread than in any other thread in the two years I have been posting here...I would say that yes, people are jumping in...all to talk about how much they dislike Mr. Olney

Hell, it's generated more newcomers/lurkers than any other thread in the past 9+ years I've been here. THAT says something.

And they're alllllllllllllllll unhappy with widdle peanut there.

~Bev

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:08 PM
Because of Rick's habitual cheating and lying, he's destroyed the Mighty Mini-con, Tightlip and Orca. No one in their right mind would have anything to do with either one, which is a shame for both the creators involved and the well-meaning people who worked with him in good faith.

Shame.

Gail

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 05:10 PM
I don't know, if i had the money I would set up a comic book convention the same weekend as mmc in Syracuse.

Hey, I can dream.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:10 PM
Hell, it's generated more newcomers/lurkers than any other thread in the past 9+ years I've been here. THAT says something.

And they're alllllllllllllllll unhappy with widdle peanut there.

~Bev


And EVERY news story and EVERY weblink mentions that he's a lying deadbeat. It's nice to see the story get out RIGHT.

Thanks to all the news sites and bloggers!

Gail

Dhaunea
01-12-2007, 05:15 PM
I don't know, if i had the money I would set up a comic book convention the same weekend as mmc in Syracuse.

Hey, I can dream.

I'd go, try to talk my relatives in the area into going, bully my friends into going and spend as much money as I could.

Heck, if he gets a trial date, setting up a mini-con just before so all the affected could have a good time before heading into the trial would be a great idea. Why waste a trip?

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:16 PM
I don't know, if i had the money I would set up a comic book convention the same weekend as mmc in Syracuse.

Hey, I can dream.

Then there would be ONE con in upstate New York that week!

;)

Gail

Darediva
01-12-2007, 05:18 PM
On Rick's blog:

-----------------------------------------------
Darediva, surprised to see you on the bandwagon.

Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 3:32 PM
[Reply to this]

-----------------------------------------------

If you don't think he's not reading everything, this certainly proves it. No bandwagon for me, "Rick". You cured me of ever following anything of that nature.

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 05:18 PM
Well, that is the difference between me and Olney. I would only do this if I had the money.

Olney would do it anyway.

Paul Newell
01-12-2007, 05:18 PM
Boy, Scott Shaw! sure predicted him right...he's in his 'trying to sound reasonable' mode.

Next is another blow up, then begging forgiveness, according to the pattern!

Gail

And here it comes:
Ian Shires said, "i wanted to post post #6000"

Quit your crying you little girl. I'll remember THAT day for a long, long, time.

Larry Dixon
01-12-2007, 05:18 PM
They were to be courageous Elves, hunting the internet for "trolls and stalkers".
Mercedes and I had elves & kitsune using the 'net to find bad guys (via a kinda nifty use of a tiny Gate just big enough for an optical link between our world & underhill; no physical cable), in our book Chrome Circle, back in the '90s. Was just a passing mention, and a brief scene, while the lead characters were walking by.

Equinecrophilia being what it is, I do still wonder, has Olney ever publicly declared a definition for either 'plebe' or 'troll?' I am genuinely interested if he has articulated hard definitions.

rummblestrips
01-12-2007, 05:20 PM
He's actually denying the lewd comments about women.. wow.
His comments are ON THIS BOARD and he's denying them.
I guess there's now way of posting the comments over there without him deleting them, the coward.

Paul Newell
01-12-2007, 05:20 PM
Oh oh...he almost has a lawyer now.... another year or two an she will be a real one!
Check out the link to her My Space page, She's only just joined...Sockpuppet or gag?

Larry Dixon
01-12-2007, 05:21 PM
[QUOTE=Gail Simone;4234188]"Re: The remarks of one Ms. "Gail Simone"
R.O: "You've created a vehicle that you no longer control. Now enjoy the ride."

Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got us a convoy.

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 05:22 PM
And EVERY news story and EVERY weblink mentions that he's a lying deadbeat. It's nice to see the story get out RIGHT.

Thanks to all the news sites and bloggers!

Gail

Googling his own name must give him a headache now.

And, yes! Major kudos to everyone getting the story out there RIGHT!

~Bev

colleen
01-12-2007, 05:24 PM
I suppose it should be obvious that the conversation about Olney's military service he claims occurred between him and me never occurred.

In the first place, I did not state an incorrect memory that he claimed the Marine Corps HQ was in Quantico, HE made this statement. On this thread. In his own writing.

His exact words were "Headquarters Marine Corps Quantico". At least a dozen people ought to have a copy of it.

Moreover, his claim that he described Quantico TO ME as being between Newport News (where I once lived) and Norfolk (where he claims he was stationed....)

HELLO! Does this man have access to a map?

Not only is this false, but Norfolk lies a full hour FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD across a major bridge tunnel from Newport News, NOT between Newport News and Quantico. Norfolk is between Newport News and Virginia Beach toward Carolina. You know. The OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF QUANTICO.


NO one would make this mistake if they knew the area. I lived there for over 30 years.

MOREOVER, if he knew I lived there, and had actually spoken to me, what on EARTH would he be doing describing the location of a Naval Base as QUANTICO in relation to Norfolk WHERE MY FATHER WAS THE GOD DAMNED CHIEF OF POLICE as if I would NEED him to tell me where it was???

And WHY ON EARTH would Quantico have any importance in a conversation about where he was stationed especially when the last thing in the world I needed to know was WHERE THE HELL NORFOLK was! I LIVED there between 1986 and 1987, by the way. I don't NEED directions.

Wow! Norfolk is between where you live and Kamchatka, Miss Colleen! Well, that's interesting news!



For crying out loud, he's not only a liar, he's lousy with it.


c

Darediva
01-12-2007, 05:24 PM
And about his not sending me the airfare in advance...

---------------------------------------------------
Darediva,
That wasn't a farce. If not for my heart attack and subsequent need to cancel the events that year you would've been here and you would've addressed the Craft group at the library.

Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 3:34 PM
[Reply to this]
-----------------------------------------------------

Promises, promises, Rick. The only good thing about this was I did NOT do that commission for you, and get skunked out of it. Which had I believed all of your sad stories, as well as the ones about how you know Stan Lee personally, etc, etc, I would certainly be a whole lot more pissed off with you.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:25 PM
Yes, he's a brave, brave man.

Won't even speak to the people he's cheated except to threaten them, runs at the first sign of getting his figurative cowardly ass kicked, and then hides on a board where he can delete anyone who hurts his widdle feewings.

I'm known braver chickens.

Gail

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:26 PM
And about his not sending me the airfare in advance...

---------------------------------------------------
Darediva,
That wasn't a farce. If not for my heart attack and subsequent need to cancel the events that year you would've been here and you would've addressed the Craft group at the library.

Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 3:34 PM
[Reply to this]
-----------------------------------------------------

Promises, promises, Rick. The only good thing about this was I did NOT do that commission for you, and get skunked out of it. Which had I believed all of your sad stories, as well as the ones about how you know Stan Lee personally, etc, etc, I would certainly be a whole lot more pissed off with you.

I'm very disappointed in you, Darediva.

No, wait, I think you're AWESOME!

Welcome!

Gail

JeffreyWKramer
01-12-2007, 05:26 PM
this just creeps me out.

I suspect he spends an extraordinary amount of time touching a veiny part of his person.

Sarah Beach
01-12-2007, 05:28 PM
He's also claimed twice that he paid my husband's airfare, a flat-out lie he's too stupid to RECANT. *

* Note that I actually know what the word 'RECANT' means.

Gail

How dare you know that! You also know what "tort" and "retort" mean!

You are evil. :evilsmile

OzBat!
01-12-2007, 05:29 PM
Ooops! All of those baby brand new blog entries appear to have disappeared! I am amazed! Nay, FLABERGHASTED!

Darediva
01-12-2007, 05:31 PM
[QUOTE=Gail Simone;4234188]"Re: The remarks of one Ms. "Gail Simone"
R.O: "You've created a vehicle that you no longer control. Now enjoy the ride."

Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got us a convoy.

This is one of the funniest things I've read all day!

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:32 PM
Ooops! All of those baby brand new blog entries appear to have disappeared! I am amazed! Nay, FLABERGHASTED!

Surprise, surprise, surprise!

Dance, editmonkey, dance!

hahahahaha!

Gutless!

Gail

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 05:32 PM
I suspect he spends an extraordinary amount of time touching a veiny part of his person.
How much fun can that be when one is afflicted with Infantile Penis Syndrome?

Darediva
01-12-2007, 05:32 PM
I'm very disappointed in you, Darediva.

No, wait, I think you're AWESOME!

Welcome!

Gail

Thank you! It's time this guy got his due. I'm just sayin'.

Sarah Beach
01-12-2007, 05:37 PM
Ooops! All of those baby brand new blog entries appear to have disappeared! I am amazed! Nay, FLABERGHASTED!

Noooooooooooooo! NOT FAIR! I've been working this afternoon! I hadn't got to go back and read the actual exchanges in order!

Oh, wait. Everyone's been copying them over here, right? Thanks. That means I don't have to look at his stupid logo.

:evilsmile

colleen
01-12-2007, 05:39 PM
Maybe he got a map and freaked out when he realized where Quantico, Newport News, and Norfolk actually are.

AaronJ
01-12-2007, 05:42 PM
Maybe he got a map and freaked out when he realized where Quantico, Newport News, and Norfolk actually are.

That's making the (rather large) leap to Olney's having the ability to read a map.

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 05:42 PM
How many summons have you recieved?

How will you be filing your lawsuit? (ie: small claims, etc.)

I am in my last year of law school and need to take on my first case. I may be able to help you.

Posted by haylie on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 6:56 PM

Interesting... According to "haylie's" user info, she's 19...

Go ahead and try to change your sock puppet's age, liar. I already copied the page and took a screen shot. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Papergirl2hc/Misc/haylie.gif

~Bev

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 05:43 PM
They are still there.

AaronJ
01-12-2007, 05:45 PM
Interesting... According to "haylie's" user info, she's 19...

Go ahead and try to change your sock puppet's age, liar. I already copied the page and took a screen shot. :D

~Bev

That girl's AMAZING! Finished college and first two years of law school before her 20th birthday!

I think we should look out, since she is obviously a super-genius. Which, of course, is what drew her to The Defendant in the first place.

Good lord.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:45 PM
I suppose it should be obvious that the conversation about Olney's military service he claims occurred between him and me never occurred.

In the first place, I did not state an incorrect memory that he claimed the Marine Corps HQ was in Quantico, HE made this statement. On this thread. In his own writing.

His exact words were "Headquarters Marine Corps Quantico". At least a dozen people ought to have a copy of it.

Moreover, his claim that he described Quantico TO ME as being between Newport News (where I once lived) and Norfolk (where he claims he was stationed....)

HELLO! Does this man have access to a map?

Not only is this false, but Norfolk lies a full hour FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD across a major bridge tunnel from Newport News, NOT between Newport News and Quantico. Norfolk is between Newport News and Virginia Beach toward Carolina. You know. The OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF QUANTICO.


NO one would make this mistake if they knew the area. I lived there for over 30 years.

MOREOVER, if he knew I lived there, and had actually spoken to me, what on EARTH would he be doing describing the location of a Naval Base as QUANTICO in relation to Norfolk WHERE MY FATHER WAS THE GOD DAMNED CHIEF OF POLICE as if I would NEED him to tell me where it was???

And WHY ON EARTH would Quantico have any importance in a conversation about where he was stationed especially when the last thing in the world I needed to know was WHERE THE HELL NORFOLK was! I LIVED there between 1986 and 1987, by the way. I don't NEED directions.

Wow! Norfolk is between where you live and Kamchatka, Miss Colleen! Well, that's interesting news!



For crying out loud, he's not only a liar, he's lousy with it.


c



Remember never to lie to Colleen Doran, for she will bring the fucking WRATH OF GOD upon you.

Gail

colleen
01-12-2007, 05:47 PM
How many summons have you recieved?

Dear "haylie",

In the last year of law school, it might help you to know...i before e except after c.

c

Wil Radcliffe
01-12-2007, 05:47 PM
Interesting... According to "haylie's" user info, she's 19...

Go ahead and try to change your sock puppet's age, liar. I already copied the page and took a screen shot. :D



~Bev

I said it before, but it bears repeating...

http://a1m.org/sites/www.audienceone.org/photos/shocked.jpg

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 05:48 PM
That girl's AMAZING! Finished college and first two years of law school before her 20th birthday!

I think we should look out, since she is obviously a super-genius. Which, of course, is what drew her to The Defendant in the first place.

Good lord.

Yep. Once again, I'm a'shakin' in my boots here...


*falls out of her chair laughing her ass off*

~Bev

colleen
01-12-2007, 05:48 PM
That's making the (rather large) leap to Olney's having the ability to read a map.

Well, we have now established that his "military career" did not see him doing service as a forward observer.


c

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:48 PM
oh, well, jesus, if HAYLIE is on the case...

...RUN, everyone! RUN!

Gail

PatrickG
01-12-2007, 05:50 PM
Interesting... According to "haylie's" user info, she's 19...

Go ahead and try to change your sock puppet's age, liar. I already copied the page and took a screen shot. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Papergirl2hc/Misc/haylie.gif

~Bev

Maybe Doogie Howser is his doctor and Wesley Crusher services his computer and his car.

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 05:51 PM
oh, well, jesus, if HAYLIE is on the case...

...RUN, everyone! RUN!

Gail

Yeah, she might force you to watch her favorite show, Dr. Phil... Or force you to go shopping with her... Truly frightening prospects! :eek:

~Bev

Sarah Beach
01-12-2007, 05:51 PM
Went and looked.... the blog enteries seem to be there, but then I was just looking at the #3 section. Wherein he tosses my way this:

Posted by Rick of TightLipMs. Beach, you should present your questions here. I'd gladly attempt to answer them. [with the LOL emoticon gaffing away]

Why don't I? Let's see, duffus.

(1) I don't have a mySpace account and I don't want one. So I can't post there.

(2) You're obviously reading everything over here, so why go there, where I have to look at your gadawful unartistic logo.

(3) You have no intention of answering any of them anyway. I know that. You don't have the courage.

(4) I wouldn't give you the satisfaction of posting in your "comfort zone". And yes, that is hostility. You were vile to the Dixonverse community, and I feel rather like a mother tiger for my brangling brats (said with MUCH affection for the gang -- no, they're not really brats: compared to you, Mr. Olney, they are very, very high class ladies and gentlemen, even Beau!).

peanut peanut peanut -- and that's NOT a term of affection.

Matt Doc Martin
01-12-2007, 05:52 PM
Check out the link to her My Space page, She's only just joined...Sockpuppet or gag?

And she is only 19. So she is almost done with law school.


Doogie Howser, P.A., anyone?

EDIT: I posted this BEFORE I read all the updated posts.

Koben Kelly
01-12-2007, 05:52 PM
Interesting... According to "haylie's" user info, she's 19...

Go ahead and try to change your sock puppet's age, liar. I already copied the page and took a screen shot. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Papergirl2hc/Misc/haylie.gif

~Bev

Awwwwwww, snap! BUSTED!

colleen
01-12-2007, 05:53 PM
Remember never to lie to Colleen Doran, for she will bring the fucking WRATH OF GOD upon you.

Gail

If he were truly familiar with the area, then the obvious point of reference for location (like I'd need one since I lived there) would be one of the bases within a 1 hour to 1/2 hour drive, i.e. Yorktown, Fort Eustis, Fort Monroe, etc.

But no.

He names a military base fully THREE FREAKING HOURS AWAY because he does not know the bases in the area and has no ripping idea what he's talking about.

Moreover, there is no way on God's green Earth he could have not known where Newport News actually is because everyone in the military knows it is home to one of the largest shipyards in the world. You CAN'T have been stationed in Norfolk and NOT know Newport News. No freaking way. You can SEE IT from right across the water.


c

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:55 PM
Christ, is there ANYTHING this guy didn't lie about?

Are we POSITIVE he's not a skrull?

Gail

JeffreyWKramer
01-12-2007, 05:55 PM
PS. For god's sake will you get an editor? Reading your posts is like playing Scrabble with a monkey.

I love this description!

I think this "Gail" has some potential as a writer.

OzBat!
01-12-2007, 05:55 PM
They are still there.His post about the "ikill" image is still there, as is the taunt at gail with MacQ's shovel comment, and the invitation to post questions.

After that though, all those delightful questions and answers we've been copying over here? Nuthin! Nada! Nil! Zilch!

AaronJ
01-12-2007, 05:57 PM
Awwwwwww, snap! BUSTED!

You know what's really funny about it (or, in actuality, pathetic) is that Mr. Defendant thinks of himself as something of a creative type.

The hits just keep on coming with this jackass.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 05:57 PM
His post about the "ikill" image is still there, as is the taunt at gail with MacQ's shovel comment, and the invitation to post questions.

After that though, all those delightful questions and answers we've been copying over here? Nuthin! Nada! Nil! Zilch!

Probably because he knew he was busted on the women-hate and gay-bashing.

And don't forget, he's been busted for sock puppetry before, so evidently he wasn't any good at it back then, either.

Gail

Sarah Beach
01-12-2007, 05:57 PM
If he were truly familiar with the area, then the obvious point of reference for location (like I'd need one since I lived there) would be one of the bases within a 1 hour to 1/2 hour drive, i.e. Yorktown, Fort Eustis, Fort Monroe, etc.

But no.

He names a military base fully THREE FREAKING HOURS AWAY because he does not know the bases in the area and has no ripping idea what he's talking about.

Moreover, there is no way on God's green Earth he could have not known where Newport News actually is because everyone in the military knows it is home to one of the largest shipyards in the world. You CAN'T have been stationed in Norfolk and NOT know Newport News. No freaking way. You can SEE IT from right across the water.


c

Have mercy on him Colleen. I've come to the conclusion that his knowledge of the area you speak of comes from watching NCIS. (I love that show myself, but wouldn't take it as a template for a geography lesson of the area. :) )

wishlish
01-12-2007, 05:58 PM
Gail, I'll donate $100 to the charity of your choice if we can get "Hailey Sage for the defense!" in one of your comics.

$150 if a sock puppet is used in the story.

JeffreyWKramer
01-12-2007, 06:01 PM
How much fun can that be when one is afflicted with Infantile Penis Syndrome?

Maybe he calls his penis Waldo and plays "Where's Waldo?"

wishlish
01-12-2007, 06:01 PM
Christ, is there ANYTHING this guy didn't lie about?

Are we POSITIVE he's not a skrull?

Gail

http://docs.raycornwall.com/skrull.gif

"Hey, what did we ever do to you? Huh?"

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 06:01 PM
Heres a question...since I barely use MySpace , doesn't that place have a " when you joined date ?" . Plus has anyone clicked to see if Hayley is an actual member and has pics up or not ? Because yes I've heard he's used sock puppets before but hell.....ya never know. :p

Matt Doc Martin
01-12-2007, 06:02 PM
I invited Haylie to be my friend.

a) Not even Tom is her friend. That is just sad.

b) I want a person THAT smart on my side.


Also, I wonder i Derek is a puppet as well.

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 06:04 PM
Heh. He (non-)answered some of my questions. Not the last few rounds, but some.

Okay, let's try again:

1. My military record is, because of all the hoopla over illegal aliens gaining private information on people, just as "private" as your information. I have nothing to prove to you or anyone sucked in by "Gail's" lies. End of answer.

2. Again, anyone having a "need" for it will get that information in due time delivered to their door. End of answer.

3. Yes, I carelessly used the wrong word, I guess. I meant to say that I had no intentions of recanting the origin of "Ric Olie" as it happened exactly as I sttaed it did. Again, "Gail Simone" needs to drag her source forward. I doubt that there is such a person, and I can then check with Skywalker Ranch directly. End of answer.

4. Donated items to any of the events have either been auctioned off or are in our safe keeping for the next auction. As we did get in a couple things for 2006, and it was canceled, we'll be offering those in June for an as yet unnamed charity. There is nothing illehgal about that. Gifts and donations are the same thing when they're brought in and given out as indicated. Did I miss something on that cesspool thread specifically?

5. Ask Ronee. She can tell you who was recompensated from 2006.

6. Oh, that! My goodness, that had to do with my belief that an Indy publisher never owns all his own stuff. Indy publishers get their ideas stolen all the time!

Hope that solves your quandry.

Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 06:05 PM
Gail, I'll donate $100 to the charity of your choice if we can get "Hailey Sage for the defense!" in one of your comics.

$150 if a sock puppet is used in the story.

:D

Dude, if Manhunter is staying on the team, that would be SO possible...

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 06:06 PM
Heh. He (non-)answered some of my questions. Not the last few rounds, but some.

Well, since Ronee's already said NO ONE was paid...nice rebuttal, deadbeat!

Gail

Koben Kelly
01-12-2007, 06:06 PM
Mr. Olney, since we're all quite aware that you're reading this, I have a suggestion. Why not go to your local Blockbuster, or visit Netflix's site, and rent a copy of the film, Shattered Glass? It's a wonderful movie starring Hayden Christensen, Chloe Sevigny, Steve Zahn, Hank Azaria, and Rosario Dawson. It tells the story of Stephen Glass, staff writer for The New Republic. I believe you'll find the main character and you have many, many things in common. In times like these, it's always pleasant to have someone in a movie you can relate to.

Thanks
---Koben Kelly:)

colleen
01-12-2007, 06:06 PM
Have mercy on him Colleen. I've come to the conclusion that his knowledge of the area you speak of comes from watching NCIS. (I love that show myself, but wouldn't take it as a template for a geography lesson of the area. :) )

LOL! Too true!

I love watching these shows and having characters take the wrong exits and drive on the wrong interstates. X-Files was always having episodes located in Virginia, going to Langley and such, and they didn't really pay any attention to road signs. God knows where those poor agents were driving. If "The Truth is Out There" they'd only find it by accident.

I just sold my dad's framed NCIS poster on ebay. Got a good price for it!


c

Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 06:06 PM
Ask Ronee. She can tell you who was recompensated from 2006.

She already did.

I believe her answer was "no one."

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 06:07 PM
I'm still laughing that he named his obvious Mary Sue, "Magnus Grimoire."

Heh. :)

It's a shame Tightlip is dead, because they're the only ones with standards low enough to hire a 'writer' like that.

Gail

Paul D. Storrie
01-12-2007, 06:08 PM
How dare you know that! You also know what "tort" and "retort" mean!

You are evil. :evilsmile

Well OBVIOUSLY retort is to sue someone twice!

I learned that at the RO School of Imaginary Lawyering.

PDS

Sparvid
01-12-2007, 06:08 PM
What I'd like to know:

1. Who does have a reason to get legal paper from his lawyer? Presumably, it would be people who have spoken out about what a deadbeat he is (so it's names we must've already seen in this thread), but apparently neither Gail nor Ronee is among them.

2. What kind of trade secrets have some people revealed, which resulted in breaking the NDA? Now obviously, "Rick" can't say that, because the point of the NDA in the first place would be to keep them secret, but a vague explanation would do just fine.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 06:09 PM
Oh, and by the way...with his "ask Ronee" comment, he's clearly giving her permission to discuss TLE business.

Just, talk away, Ronee!

(points for those who get that last gag...)

Gail

colleen
01-12-2007, 06:10 PM
An MOS # would not compromise security in any way, nor would posting pictures of oneself in uniform, or pictures of one's graduating class from boot camp, or even posting a pic of the DD-214 with # whited out.

I sincerely doubt illegal aliens are of any real concern here.


c

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 06:11 PM
An MOS # would not compromise security in any way, nor would posting pictures of oneself in uniform, or pictures of one's graduating class from boot camp, or even posting a pic of the DD-214 with # whited out.

I sincerely doubt illegal aliens are of any real concern here.


c

Unless they're Kree Warriors. See, that's what I'm saying. Are we SURE he's not a Skrull?

Gail, just used up her entire knowledge of Marvel aliens in one three sentences

AaronJ
01-12-2007, 06:13 PM
I sincerely doubt illegal aliens are of any real concern here.


c

Illegal? Sure. Pretty much everything The Defendant has done has been illegal, or at least unethical.

Alien? Yep. I certainly don't want to claim him as part of the human race.

Ohhhhh ... you meant "illegal aliens" as in undocumented workers? No. I'm pretty sure they have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with any of this.

Matt Doc Martin
01-12-2007, 06:13 PM
1. My military record is, because of all the hoopla over illegal aliens gaining private information on people, just as "private" as your information. I have nothing to prove to you or anyone sucked in by "Gail's" lies. End of answer.

Your military record and illegal aliens. uh-huh.

let me rephrase that for you.

"My military record is a shameful thing. I am a disgrace to this country and am lucky my platoon did not shoot me. As it was, i was on the receiving end of more than one blanket party."

2. Again, anyone having a "need" for it will get that information in due time delivered to their door. End of answer.

Man people need it..unless you would prefer everything come to your door...along with a note discussing how you are trying to arrange leaving your wife.

3. Yes, I carelessly used the wrong word, I guess. I meant to say that I had no intentions of recanting the origin of "Ric Olie" as it happened exactly as I sttaed it did. Again, "Gail Simone" needs to drag her source forward. I doubt that there is such a person, and I can then check with Skywalker Ranch directly. End of answer.

Well, f you ever get a working scanner, a must in the comics industry, you could publish this mythical letter. It does not exist, so you are unlikely to show it.

If you had a digital camera you could too....but you would claim it is out of film.

4. Donated items to any of the events have either been auctioned off or are in our safe keeping for the next auction. As we did get in a couple things for 2006, and it was canceled, we'll be offering those in June for an as yet unnamed charity. There is nothing illehgal about that. Gifts and donations are the same thing when they're brought in and given out as indicated. Did I miss something on that cesspool thread specifically?

There was a lot of talk about how you take stuff under false pretenses for your own personal gain. That is what you did not miss...you just gloss over it.

5. Ask Ronee. She can tell you who was recompensated from 2006.


We did. the answer was "no one".

6. Oh, that! My goodness, that had to do with my belief that an Indy publisher never owns all his own stuff. Indy publishers get their ideas stolen all the time!

Or the fact that your wife's name is on the "business"...not that the "business" is listed anywhere in NY.

Hope that solves your quandry.


Nope...just reinforces our belief that you cannot answer a straight question. Some "Marine".

Howler
01-12-2007, 06:16 PM
Heres a question...since I barely use MySpace , doesn't that place have a " when you joined date ?" . Plus has anyone clicked to see if Hayley is an actual member and has pics up or not ? Because yes I've heard he's used sock puppets before but hell.....ya never know. :p

Not a MySpace member so I can't look for pictures, however I looked at her page and her joined date is 01/04/07

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 06:17 PM
My reply:

1. Portions of your military record are public information freely available to anyone who asks. People are going to ask, so why not just state it here first?

2. You threatened to sue me for (a) violating your copyright by improperly reproducing your text from mightyminicon.com and (b) libel for my posts at CBR. My attorney would like to contact your attorney to get it moving. I gave you his information, but he still needs yours.

3. No, she doesn't. You are the one making the extraordinary claim. As the saying goes, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." Your story regarding the character's name has changed several times, and in fact has been deleted (by you) from at least one post at the official Star Wars forum. It's your claim, now you've been called on it. Prove it or stop claiming it. You do know that false advertising claims, such as this one which you are using to build credibility for ORCA, MightyMiniCon and TightLip, are investigated by the Federal Trade Commission and can result in massive penalties. I worked for Hooked on Phonics when the FTC put them in bankruptcy because of unsubstantiated claims. The stuff they claimed was actually true, but they didn't have proof, and it cost them. Just so you know.

4. Okay, they were auctioned. Did the proceeds actually go to the charity for which they were intended? Which charity was that? Was the donation made in your name, or ORCA, or MightyMiniCon or TightLip?

5. We did. She said she does not know of anyone ever receiving any payment form you for anything. Ever.

6. Rubbish. You said you were part owner of the company. The creators retain complete ownership of the work, but the publsiher is owned outright by whoever owns it. Mike Richardson owns Dark Horse, but Stan Sakai owns Usagi Yojimbo, which Dark Horse publishes. So who is/are the other part owner(s)?

wishlish
01-12-2007, 06:17 PM
Unless they're Kree Warriors. See, that's what I'm saying. Are we SURE he's not a Skrull?

Gail, just used up her entire knowledge of Marvel aliens in one three sentences

http://docs.raycornwall.com/skrull.gif

"AGAIN with this stuff? And now you can't figure out us and the Kree? Here's the difference. Skrulls got bumpy chins. The Kree...well, they just SUCK, got it?

"I think you're a bit of a xenophobe there, Gail. I think you need some therapy or something, I dunno what, but SOMETHING.

"(Jeez, she confused us with the Kree. Sheesh. We went to WAR with the Kree. Neal Adams drew it! Who doesn't know that? Grumblemumblegrumble...)"

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 06:18 PM
Oh, and by the way...with his "ask Ronee" comment, he's clearly giving her permission to discuss TLE business.

Just, talk away, Ronee!

(points for those who get that last gag...)

Gail
I dunno, the next line sounds a little stalkery. "You won't see me follow you back home."

colleen
01-12-2007, 06:20 PM
Unless they're Kree Warriors. See, that's what I'm saying. Are we SURE he's not a Skrull?

Gail, just used up her entire knowledge of Marvel aliens in one three sentences

LOL!!!

I'm not sure what freaks me out more. The lies this guy tells or the fact that they are such bad ones.


My only memory of contact with this fellow is he used to write me repeatedly asking for donations of comics and such when I was still self publishing. I recall no personal contact at all. I may have met him at a show, but a conversation about his military career? Un unh. I'd certainly remember a conversation with someone who was location-challenged.

Since he claims he met me in the context of also meeting Susan Alston, that would have to have been no later than 1994.

By the way, has anyone looked into his "charity" status? Did anyone get paperwork backing up their donations, where they went, the value, the tax deductible status? What's the deal with that? Did he ever file the proper papers to declare himself a charity? How do we know donations got from Point A to Point B? And did he just take the tax deductions for his own "company"?



c

Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 06:20 PM
Oh, and by the way...with his "ask Ronee" comment, he's clearly giving her permission to discuss TLE business.

Just, talk away, Ronee!

(points for those who get that last gag...)

Gail

Knowing Ronee as I do, I'm guessing it's either a rhyming pun on her name or just a comment on the fact that, once she decides to cut loose, ain't nobody stopping her from telling it like it is. :D

rummblestrips
01-12-2007, 06:21 PM
Just found my flier from the MMC 2003. (the one that actually went on)
On the front cover is the phrase and logo

BENEFITTING THE
ST. JUDE'S CHILDREN'S RESEARCH HOSPITAL,
AISAC Danny Thomas, Founder

Here's the link to the hospital
http://www.stjude.org/

Is there anyone on this board that knows how to find out if Rick Olney or OCRA did actually 'benefit' the hospital?
I assume the hospital would have to keep records of all the dontations that were given to it. Would this information be available publicly or would you need to file some legal papers to get that info.
Again, MMC was on May 10th, 2003

Very interested in finding out the truth.

wishlish
01-12-2007, 06:21 PM
Illegal? Sure. Pretty much everything The Defendant has done has been illegal, or at least unethical.

Alien? Yep. I certainly don't want to claim him as part of the human race.

Ohhhhh ... you meant "illegal aliens" as in undocumented workers? No. I'm pretty sure they have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with any of this.

http://docs.raycornwall.com/skrull.gif

"I just wanted to add this, as a counterpoint to Gail's Skrull hate...

"Every Skrull is a documented worker. When a Skrull has a green card, he has a GREEN CARD. Get it? GREEN CARD. Eh? Eh?

...

"Huh. Tough room."

Mike Bullock
01-12-2007, 06:23 PM
What I'd like to know:

2. What kind of trade secrets have some people revealed, which resulted in breaking the NDA? Now obviously, "Rick" can't say that, because the point of the NDA in the first place would be to keep them secret, but a vague explanation would do just fine.

You're putting the cart before the horse. Someone must first have a trade, before they can create any secrets about it. Then, and only then, can you sue because someone revealed said secrets.

Besides, the phrase "I learned all I know about the military from the watching the A-Team" is not a trade secret.

Wil Radcliffe
01-12-2007, 06:23 PM
Knowing Ronee as I do, I'm guessing it's either a rhyming pun on her name or just a comment on the fact that, once she decides to cut loose, ain't nobody stopping her from telling it like it is. :D

Isn't there a song called Just Walk Away, Rene?

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 06:25 PM
LOL!!!

I'm not sure what freaks me out more. The lies this guy tells or the fact that they are such bad ones.


My only memory of contact with this fellow is he used to write me repeatedly asking for donations of comics and such when I was still self publishing. I recall no personal contact at all. I may have met him at a show, but a conversation about his military career? Un unh. I'd certainly remember a conversation with someone who was location-challenged.

Since he claims he met me in the context of also meeting Susan Alston, that would have to have been no later than 1994.

By the way, has anyone looked into his "charity" status? Did anyone get paperwork backing up their donations, where they went, the value, the tax deductible status? What's the deal with that? Did he ever file the proper papers to declare himself a charity? How do we know donations got from Point A to Point B? And did he just take the tax deductions for his own "company"?



c


Yeah, he claimed ORCA donations were tax-deductible and lost his MIND, I mean like a LUNATIC, when people asked for verification. Of course, later, it was revealed that they didn't have that status at all at the time, and were ostensibly applying for it.

There was a lot more deception, but I think that's where people first cast a wary eye on this fellow.

Gail

Matt Doc Martin
01-12-2007, 06:25 PM
You're putting the cart before the horse. Someone must first have a trade, before they can create any secrets about it. Then, and only then, can you sue because someone revealed said secrets.

Besides, the phrase "I learned all I know about the military from the watching the A-Team" is not a trade secret.

Now, now...he learned "oorah" from watching Mail Call on the History Channel.

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 06:25 PM
I
Moreover, his claim that he described Quantico TO ME as being between Newport News (where I once lived) and Norfolk (where he claims he was stationed....)


Yeah, I live roughly 45 minutes north of Quantico, give or take 10 minutes. I live nowhere near either newport News or Norfolk. I was scratchin' my head about that one.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 06:26 PM
Just found my flier from the MMC 2003. (the one that actually went on)
On the front cover is the phrase and logo

BENEFITTING THE ST. JUDE'S CHILDREN'S RESEARCH HOSPITAL

I wonder if there's any way to verify if any of those funds made it into the Hospital.

HEY! Maybe he has a piece of paper he could scan and...oh, wait. Forget it.

Gail

rummblestrips
01-12-2007, 06:26 PM
My first double post

Do I get a donut?

EdContradictory
01-12-2007, 06:26 PM
I stand PROUDLY by my recanting of the Star Wars: Episode One "Ric Olie" origin!

Does he know that "recant" means "to withdraw or disavow"?

rexmundi666
01-12-2007, 06:27 PM
Ok,y'all I just came in and I wolud like a brief summary about the Jobber's recent actions today and what's this? he actually came up with a name for his "lawyer".

Matt Doc Martin
01-12-2007, 06:31 PM
I wonder if there's any way to verify if any of those funds made it inot the Hospital.

Gail

I will effort that tomorrow.

Matt Doc Martin
01-12-2007, 06:32 PM
Ok,y'all I just came in and I wolud like a brief summary about the Jobber's recent actions today and what's this? he actually came up with a name for his "lawyer".

He did? Where?

Sarah Beach
01-12-2007, 06:33 PM
Ah, like I said, irresistable!

From himself over on myspace -- oh, wait!!!! By the way, gang, go over there and note that the peanut was actually taking notes in our Viper Pit School of On-the-Fly Legal Instruction: Copyright & Trademarks 101 class!!!!

He's TM'D "TightLip"!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!

(Like anyone is going to want to steal it!)
Posted by Rick of TightLip TM

Okay, let's try again:

1. My military record is, because of all the hoopla over illegal aliens gaining private information on people, just as "private" as your information. I have nothing to prove to you or anyone sucked in by "Gail's" lies. End of answer.


Bah, humbug. That still doesn't prevent you from naming units and bases served at. Like I said, my older brother-in-law served in the Air Force Commandos when they were top secret, and was based for a time at SAC in Omaha. After he got back from overseas (and because it was top secret, even my sister didn't know he was in Vietnam! We were told he was in Thailand!), he was based in Mount Clemens, Michigan. Pfft.


2. Again, anyone having a "need" for it will get that information in due time delivered to their door. End of answer.

And "due time" would be.... when? Never? Ronee needs to know. How hard is it to email her the information?


3. Yes, I carelessly used the wrong word, I guess. I meant to say that I had no intentions of recanting the origin of "Ric Olie" as it happened exactly as I sttaed it did. Again, "Gail Simone" needs to drag her source forward. I doubt that there is such a person, and I can then check with Skywalker Ranch directly. End of answer.

No you didn't "mean to say". You REALLY thought the word you wanted was "recant". You know how I know? In your little blurb for Freedom 3, which can be found in several places, you talk about the young Marine who died in Iraq that you intended to honor in the book. And you say his story will be recanted in your book! YOU DID NOT KNOW THE CORRECT WORD. :p

Beyond that, idiotface, the production company where the characters are designed, is part of LucasFilm. They are the ones that would know. You may have toured Skywalker Ranch (many people do), but that is NOT the production company, and the workers connected to the Ranch operations would NOT be the ones in the know about character design and name origin. Geesh.


4. Donated items to any of the events have either been auctioned off or are in our safe keeping for the next auction. As we did get in a couple things for 2006, and it was canceled, we'll be offering those in June for an as yet unnamed charity. There is nothing illehgal about that. Gifts and donations are the same thing when they're brought in and given out as indicated. Did I miss something on that cesspool thread specifically?

Well, since you apparently do not yet have A LOCATION LOCKED DOWN AND ANNOUNCED, I suspect this is not going to happen! So, the question then becomes, where are the donations currently stored? Did you keep records of who donated what? Why not return these objects to those who donated them, so that they can submit them to charity auctions they KNOW will happen? And how about giving us contacts for the charities you actually claim you've worked with? Who can we talk to to verify your stories?


5. Ask Ronee. She can tell you who was recompensated from 2006.

You're giving her permission to talk about the company!!!!! Wheeeeeeee!

[re: the "part ownership"]
6. Oh, that! My goodness, that had to do with my belief that an Indy publisher never owns all his own stuff. Indy publishers get their ideas stolen all the time!

Ummm. No, Mr. "I know the law", that is not what "part ownership of TightLip Entertainment" means. The material may be owned wholey by the company, or in partnership with the creators. But owner of TightLip Entertainment means YOU OWN it. So... who is your co-owner?

He doesn't really want to understand what we're asking, though. I've come to realize it. Because the logic of the real world would mean that he's a liar, an idiot, a cheat, a jackass -- and after all, don't we know, he's the divine hero sent to save the world of comics from intelligence, logic and quality!

Hey ho.

Rynehawk
01-12-2007, 06:36 PM
Sorry to interrupt, but wanted to add some more fun to the thread. I got to thinking, and aside from the fact it's possible this guy *did* pay his help, everything else fits.

http://www.ghynvael.com/vizzini1.jpg

Now, try reading everything ol' Rick's posted using Vizzini's voice.

"Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Waid? Dixon? Simone? Morons."

(All apologies for bringing Wallace Shawn into this mess, and for potentially harming future viewings of this great movie)

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 06:37 PM
Orky gave us a cookie:
Mr. MacQ:

I only have the habit of deleting my posts on CBR, before I was banned from "Gail Simone's" forum.
Yes, I stand by my words. And, again, I'm not answering any questions regarding my service in the United States Marine Corps, other than being an E-4 with over three years time in grade on a 6 year obligation, which I completed earning my Honorable Discharge for. End of answer.

Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment ™ on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 5:21 PM

Okay, so we have full name, partial SS, DOB, rank, approximate dates of service, and at least one alleged assignment (Norfolk). Can somebody with military connections follow up and prove this to be the disgusting fraud we all suspect it to be?

Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 06:37 PM
Don't worry. I, for one, refuse to allow this nonsense harm my future enjoyment of one of my all-time favorite movies.

Darediva
01-12-2007, 06:38 PM
I wonder if there's any way to verify if any of those funds made it into the Hospital.

HEY! Maybe he has a piece of paper he could scan and...oh, wait. Forget it.

Gail

First of all, it's St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. NOT St. JUDE'S. Secondly, I'd have a lot of skepticism that it would go there, as St. Jude organizes all its own fundraisers that use its name or logo. Have friends who work there, and this is a fact.

PatrickG
01-12-2007, 06:40 PM
I sent a few bulletins to professionals in the Top 8 friends list for the Mighty Minicon just to inform them of the controversy.

Thus far, the responses seem to range between "I have 10,000 friends! I can't police them all!" (a couple of those) to "Rick Olney? Never heard of him!" Which I understand and expect... and I've clarified that I'm just giving a heads up IF they want to research the claims any. I just would hate to see good pros have their reps used to promote Mighty Mini-Con given the HUGE controversy (and debt) in play.

I just sent a brief message with a personalized version of the following:


I noticed you on the Friends list for the Mighty Mini-Con in upstate New York.

The con is organized by a man named Rick Olney who owes over 20 creators somewhere between $20,000 and $100,000 at last estimate.

Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, Gail Simone, Scott Shaw, Tony Isabella, Cully Hamner and Mike Bullock are among the parties involved in the dispute with Olney with Waid offering to help stiffed professionals. A charity book is also being planned.

The discussion is going on at:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=34

On one hand, I know policing friends lists is impossible and even undesirable for people promoting their work.

On the other hand, it galls me to see Olney using professionals' names in a visible capacity to legitimize himself and his projects.

EdContradictory
01-12-2007, 06:41 PM
Bah, humbug. That still doesn't prevent you from naming units and bases served at.

The only people I've met online who are not willing to talk about their service in at least a little detail are liars and cheats.

TomStillwell
01-12-2007, 06:44 PM
How many summons have you recieved?

How will you be filing your lawsuit? (ie: small claims, etc.)

I am in my last year of law school and need to take on my first case. I may be able to help you.

Posted by haylie on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 6:56 PM

Yes, Haylie, please take his case. Judges love new lawyers absolutely devoid of litigation experience.

Of course, law firms almost always let first year associates tackle their own cases.:rolleyes:

Even those who went to law school before being old enough to finish college.

Oh wait! This is another one of those pretend lawyers. right?

Matt Algren
01-12-2007, 06:45 PM
Sorry to interrupt, but wanted to add some more fun to the thread. I got to thinking, and aside from the fact it's possible this guy *did* pay his help, everything else fits.

http://www.ghynvael.com/vizzini1.jpg

Now, try reading everything ol' Rick's posted using Vizzini's voice.

"Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Waid? Dixon? Simone? Morons."

(All apologies for bringing Wallace Shawn into this mess, and for potentially harming future viewings of this great movie)
That = Awesome

I was trying to figure out whose voice I was hearing when he said "Oh, that! My goodness, that had to do with my belief that an Indy publisher never owns all his own stuff. Indy publishers get their ideas stolen all the time! " That's exactly right.

In my head, the sentence was followed by "Do you buy that?"

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 06:47 PM
The only people I've met online who are not willing to talk about their service in at least a little detail are liars and cheats.

Just FYI: Dad is willing (and waaaaaay more than happy) to call the VA and file a complaint against him. He won't, though, unless those doing the investigating into Olney's background want him to. Just say the word. Until then, he promises to behave and let you all do your work. :)

~Bev

PatrickG
01-12-2007, 06:47 PM
Okay.

Which one of you guys is Haylie, trying to fish for info on whether Rick had a lawyer -- and how crazy he is.

The name of the URL folder for 19 year old Haylie is "hayliesage". Haylie's Age?

This smacks of J-Bolted. However, no point in baiting the smelly caged monkey on this one, IMO. At this point, it's a matter of hiring lawyers and going after the sonofagun, isn't it?

colleen
01-12-2007, 06:48 PM
Orky gave us a cookie:


Okay, so we have full name, partial SS, DOB, rank, approximate dates of service, and at least one alleged assignment (Norfolk). Can somebody with military connections follow up and prove this to be the disgusting fraud we all suspect it to be?

So, the story changes again? Apparently, he did not serve the six years he originally claimed to serve. What he writes now is that he signed up for six years but only served three. My goodness. How many people have saved all those claims to big doings in the Marines?

He may have gotten an honorable discharge following three years of service, but my spider sense tingles at the prospect of Mr Gung Ho signing up for 6 years, bragging about his time loving all those Asian women (only have to pay for some of that), serving "in country" in Viet Nam, being stationed in Norfolk, and generally making HOO RAH, only to find out he was a low grade 3-year corporal.

Now it becomes clear why he does not want anyone digging into his military past. His military past isn't all that and a clip of ammo.

You know, that's nothing to be ashamed of...three years in the military is OK. Not everyone is Chesty Fuller material.

Unless you spent decades lying about it. THAT'S something to be shamed of.

c

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 06:48 PM
Yes, Haylie, please take his case. Judges love new lawyers absolutely devoid of litigation experience.

Of course, law firms almost always let first year associates tackle their own cases.:rolleyes:

Even those who went to law school before being old enough to finish college.

Oh wait! This is another one of those pretend lawyers. right?

Maybe she's like Reese Witherspoon from " Legally Blonde " ? ;)

Wil Radcliffe
01-12-2007, 06:48 PM
That = Awesome

I was trying to figure out whose voice I was hearing when he said "Oh, that! My goodness, that had to do with my belief that an Indy publisher never owns all his own stuff. Indy publishers get their ideas stolen all the time! " That's exactly right.

In my head, the sentence was followed by "Do you buy that?"

For some reason I was hearing this guy...

http://www.leenite.org/jonisland/graphics/liar.jpg

Howler
01-12-2007, 06:48 PM
Orky gave us a cookie:


Okay, so we have full name, partial SS, DOB, rank, approximate dates of service, and at least one alleged assignment (Norfolk). Can somebody with military connections follow up and prove this to be the disgusting fraud we all suspect it to be?
He's also posted that he was stationed at a few different bases in North Carolina in the early 70's.

As well he made this comment at fabletown.com:
"But at the time juncture of my 21st birthday -- I had just come back from serving a tour of duty oversea in the Marines during the closing days of Viet Nam"

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 06:49 PM
1. Did you pay for Gail's husband's airfare to your 2003 con?


Answer: "Gail" doesn't have a husband. Legally.

What the hell does he mean by that?

Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 06:50 PM
Marriages conducted in the United States aren't recognized on the planet Glorbon Seven?

PatrickG
01-12-2007, 06:50 PM
Just FYI: Dad is willing (and waaaaaay more than happy) to call the VA and file a complaint against him. He won't, though, unless those doing the investigating into Olney's background want him to. Just say the word. Until then, he promises to behave and let you all do your work. :)

~Bev

Look at his friends list. There are a couple of alleged marines on there. One who posted to his wall.

I think that if I sent a message of inquiry, a real marine would take one look at my profile and eat me alive for even questioning Olney.

But I suggest you glance at Olney's online military contacts and discreetly talk to them as a first step towards determining whether there's another layer of fraud (and a crime) to take into account here.

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 06:53 PM
Okay.

Which one of you guys is Haylie, trying to fish for info on whether Rick had a lawyer -- and how crazy he is.

The name of the URL folder for 19 year old Haylie is "hayliesage". Haylie's Age?

This smacks of J-Bolted. However, no point in baiting the smelly caged monkey on this one, IMO. At this point, it's a matter of hiring lawyers and going after the sonofagun, isn't it?

You honestly believe he'd hire Hayley ? Given the fact that she'd have to be the Doogie Howser of Law ? Wait a second....you have a point....come on now...this is funny enough without picturing that. ;)

rexmundi666
01-12-2007, 06:53 PM
He did? Where? I thought Haylie was his "lawyers" name.:confused:

PatrickG
01-12-2007, 06:55 PM
What the hell does he mean by that?

1. Gail and her husband are "living in sin" as far as Olney is concerned.

2. Gail didn't take her husband's last name, prompting Olney to go nuts.

3. Gail is a man.

4. Gail is a post-op transexual.

And my responses, pending these scenarios are.

1. The marriage is commonlaw. Screw you, Olney.

2. The marriage is legal. Screw you, Olney.

3. Wow. Really? That's some drag act at the cons. Screw you, Olney.

4. The marriage is legal. Screw you, Olney.

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 06:55 PM
Look at his friends list. There are a couple of alleged marines on there. One who posted to his wall.

I think that if I sent a message of inquiry, a real marine would take one look at my profile and eat me alive for even questioning Olney.

But I suggest you glance at Olney's online military contacts and discreetly talk to them as a first step towards determining whether there's another layer of fraud (and a crime) to take into account here.

Which is why he's NOT calling the VA. Let those doing the research find out more first. Then, IF the need arises, Dad's offer to call stands. Meanwhile, we're not going to do anything to get in their way. A little quiet poking around here or there, and a bit of shredding of his KNOWN lies, but that's it. :)

~Bev

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 06:55 PM
Marriages conducted in the United States aren't recognized on the planet Glorbon Seven?

Not if both couples cross dress and males are wed in wedding dresses. Then the Plebians allow it. I think their just doing it to mock us Earth people.

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 06:56 PM
1. Gail and her husband are "living in sin" as far as Olney is concerned.

2. Gail didn't take her husband's last name, prompting Olney to go nuts.



A wiccan would not have cared about any of that.

PatrickG
01-12-2007, 06:56 PM
You honestly believe he'd hire Hayley ? Given the fact that she'd have to be the Doogie Howser of Law ? Wait a second....you have a point....come on now...this is funny enough without picturing that. ;)

He already turned Haylie down... but only because he has a lawyer.

I'm waiting for the dramatic reveal that Rick Olney is a lawyer or something. Then we can report him to the Bar Association too.

colleen
01-12-2007, 06:57 PM
He's also posted that he was stationed at a few different bases in North Carolina in the early 70's.

As well he made this comment at fabletown.com:
"But at the time juncture of my 21st birthday -- I had just come back from serving a tour of duty oversea in the Marines during the closing days of Viet Nam"


The US withdrew in 1973. Olney's birth date is given as June of 1953.

The post gives the impression he was in Viet Nam. He could not have been in Viet Nam on his 21st birthday.

He could have been in Okinawa, but not Viet Nam.

Regardless, he sure would have been moved around a lot for someone only in the Marines for three years. Unless he wants to go back to claiming six.


c

PatrickG
01-12-2007, 06:57 PM
A wiccan would not have cared about any of that.

Wiccan. Hah.

He's obviously his own branch of Wiccan if he is one.

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 06:59 PM
Actually, I have already seen him claiming 7 years.

DarrenCawsey
01-12-2007, 07:01 PM
1. Gail and her husband are "living in sin" as far as Olney is concerned.

2. Gail didn't take her husband's last name, prompting Olney to go nuts.

3. Gail is a man.

4. Gail is a post-op transexual.

And my responses, pending these scenarios are.

1. The marriage is commonlaw. Screw you, Olney.

2. The marriage is legal. Screw you, Olney.

3. Wow. Really? That's some drag act at the cons. Screw you, Olney.

4. The marriage is legal. Screw you, Olney.

I think "Screw you, Olney!" works perfectly as a response to any drivel he happens to spout.

In fact I'd be hard pressed to think of anything better, apart from maybe...
"Hey Rick paid anyone lately?"

---------------------

rexmundi666
01-12-2007, 07:01 PM
Onley claims whatever it is that will give him an advantage in order to screw you over,TC.

PatrickG
01-12-2007, 07:02 PM
Allow me to suggest the following scenario for those researching:

He was in the National Guard in high school and got called up for three years towards the end of 'Nam, serving for a few weeks there.

However, he did spend three years in the Marines (mostly post-War) and three or four years in the reserves and/or the guard.

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 07:02 PM
Here we go:

I'm a veteran of the United States Marine Corps, having served from 1971-1975, and concluding my military obligation in 1977, when I then joined the Army National Guard for a period of a year. I served proudly and with some distinction, although I won't go into that. I consider myself a patriot, and I hold an Honorable Discharge to prove it. Like many others since then, I left behind friends and men that I served with. They were the heroes not me.

neko onna
01-12-2007, 07:02 PM
someone explain to me what the answer has to do with the question? I saw the movie originally in a theater with a large group of friends..one of which was sick as well...what does that have to do with naming an action figure


3. You mentioned a letter in connection with the naming of the "Ric Olie" action figure. When did you receive this letter, and from whom? Why have you never mentioned it before, for example in your posts at starwars.com?


Answer: What took place between myself and anyone related to that event had/has nothing to do with any of you. I also, coincidentally, saw that movie originally at a theatre with a good friend of mine and his wife and daughter. My friend had brain cancer and was terminal. He was a bit of a Star Wars action figure fan. Both his wife and daughter are nurses. That was why they accompanied us. I have a letter. I only have to find it in my older files.

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 07:03 PM
I thought Haylie was his "lawyers" name.:confused:

No. "Haylie" posted a comment in his myspace blog offering "her" "services", and claiming to be in her last year of law school.

My post about it is here. (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4234619&postcount=6066)

~Bev

Ronée
01-12-2007, 07:06 PM
Oh, and by the way...with his "ask Ronee" comment, he's clearly giving her permission to discuss TLE business.

Just, talk away, Ronee!

(points for those who get that last gag...)

Gailahhhhh YES! Like I needed the permission... but Matt save that damn post I'll need it for proof once his lawyer Haley gets done partying at the rave.

Anyone else picture that MAD sketch with the young blonde stupid chick doctor?

NO ONE got paid to my knowledge. NONE.

and if I am such a "nuisance" why is he asking people to come to me for clarification? What a fuckin freak.

Matt Algren
01-12-2007, 07:06 PM
Just so this doesn't go poof when he changes his mind. And in response to #4, that's just not the way the law works.

________________________________________________

Rick from TightLip Entertainment ™


Mr. MacQ asked:


1. Did you pay for Gail's husband's airfare to your 2003 con?


Answer: "Gail" doesn't have a husband. Legally.

2. When and where did you serve in the military, and can you provide any verifiable proof of that? Failure to do so will constitute public admission that you did not.

Answer: "Failure to do so will constitute public admission that you did not." Mac, this is STILL a free country. And while you may think I am an idiot, I can't be coerced into answering questions that clearly ARE NOT your business. Anyone close to me has these answers, as I'm not the monster or ogre that you all seem caught up in trying to make me. What sad little individuals most of you are... End of answer.

3. You mentioned a letter in connection with the naming of the "Ric Olie" action figure. When did you receive this letter, and from whom? Why have you never mentioned it before, for example in your posts at starwars.com?

Answer: What took place between myself and anyone related to that event had/has nothing to do with any of you. I also, coincidentally, saw that movie originally at a theatre with a good friend of mine and his wife and daughter. My friend had brain cancer and was terminal. He was a bit of a Star Wars action figure fan. Both his wife and daughter are nurses. That was why they accompanied us. I have a letter. I only have to find it in my older files.

4. Why will you not give Ronee the attorney contact information that she requires in order to comply with your conditions in order to be paid?

Answer: No, that isn't why Ronee wasn't given that specific informatuon. Ronee wasn't given any inforamtion because she's on the stage performing. She's an actress. When she's done performing and if she ever comes to her senses ... she knows how to contact me in order to get the release form. Other wise, if she believes that she really has a case -- which maybe Mark Waid would like to pay her legal bills? -- She can move forward in that manner. Maybe Mr. Waid will also pay for her divorce, child care expenses, groceries, and her DSL. Maybe?

5. What exactly did you contribute to Crossgen's Bridges program, and how does it differ from the "comics in the classroom" programs that existed before you were born?

Answer: There were NO "comics in the classroom" programs existing before I was born, or even before 1983 to 1996. As afr as your BRIDGES program question. Do your research. Answer your own question.

6. Did you tell the owner of the Comics in the Classroom website that you owned the copyright on his site name? If you did so, were you aware that domain names and book titles cannot be copyrighted?

Answer: I have exchanged emails with Scott and we're on the same page again. End of answer.

7. Is there anybody, anywhere that can provide any evidence in your defense?

Answer: Oh, did I need to defend myself? I thought we were just asking and answering questions.

Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment ™ on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 9:45 AM
[Reply to this]

PatrickG
01-12-2007, 07:06 PM
someone explain to me what the answer has to do with the question?

Rick Olney is the hallucination of a man with brain cancer?

I don't know what the friend with brain cancer has to do with it or why you have to explain nurses watching a Star Wars movie.

But he works those nurses into almost every recounting. Something's up with that if he mentions them compulsively.

And the letter? He never says it's from anyone related to LucasFilm -- and his previous stories contradict that.

I think the letter establishes why he had two nurses with him in the theater or something.

Corrina
01-12-2007, 07:10 PM
Okay, let's play math with his words.

If he was 52 in 2006, that makes him born in 1954/55.

In 1971, he would have been, at the most, seventeen years old.

It's not impossible that he served in 1971, I guess, since I know my stepfather lied about his age to join up in WW II. (He was 16.)

Ronée
01-12-2007, 07:12 PM
4. Why will you not give Ronee the attorney contact information that she requires in order to comply with your conditions in order to be paid?

Answer: No, that isn't why Ronee wasn't given that specific informatuon. Ronee wasn't given any inforamtion because she's on the stage performing. She's an actress. When she's done performing and if she ever comes to her senses ... she knows how to contact me in order to get the release form. Other wise, if she believes that she really has a case -- which maybe Mark Waid would like to pay her legal bills? -- She can move forward in that manner. Maybe Mr. Waid will also pay for her divorce, child care expenses, groceries, and her DSL. Maybe?

First of all fucknut, my impending divorce is none of your business and as for the DSL you OFFERED to get it for me in order to do the web work you had planned for your big store. Child care expenses came in only because I told you that due to you not paying me I could NOT pay my sitter!

Actress? There is no acting here by anyone but you, and dear lord you suck.

Matt Algren
01-12-2007, 07:12 PM
For some reason I was hearing this guy...

http://www.leenite.org/jonisland/graphics/liar.jpgTomato, tomato.

The name of the URL folder for 19 year old Haylie is "hayliesage". Haylie's Age?I read it as Haylie Sage.

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 07:12 PM
Does anyone remember that long response the new poster ( a lawyer actually) who came into the thread and detailed the case Olney has ? Maybe someone should post that again or on the blog so he can see that this new guy at least seemingly knows his facts. It couldn't hurt to see him read it.

colleen
01-12-2007, 07:12 PM
Allow me to suggest the following scenario for those researching:

He was in the National Guard in high school and got called up for three years towards the end of 'Nam, serving for a few weeks there.

However, he did spend three years in the Marines (mostly post-War) and three or four years in the reserves and/or the guard.

You don't serve in the National Guard in high school.

In high school you serve in the Reserve Officers Training Corps. I was in the Corps in Naval Junior ROTC. You don't get military brownie points for that on your retirement, it doesn't mean you really served, and it doesn't make you a Marine.

Yes, I wore the uniform of my country as a 14-year old. HOO RAH!


c

colleen
01-12-2007, 07:14 PM
Here we go:

Busted again.

On THIS THREAD, in a post directed at me, and I am sure someone will have it, he claimed to have served in the Army National Guard for one year in the 1980's.



c

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 07:15 PM
1. Gail and her husband are "living in sin" as far as Olney is concerned.

2. Gail didn't take her husband's last name, prompting Olney to go nuts.

3. Gail is a man.

4. Gail is a post-op transexual.

And my responses, pending these scenarios are.

1. The marriage is commonlaw. Screw you, Olney.

2. The marriage is legal. Screw you, Olney.

3. Wow. Really? That's some drag act at the cons. Screw you, Olney.

4. The marriage is legal. Screw you, Olney.
Duh.

His assertion is that since "Gail" is a pseudonym, he's not legally married to "Gail" he's married to her under her real name. A really stupid bit of evasion.

neko onna
01-12-2007, 07:16 PM
Busted again.

On THIS THREAD, in a post directed at me, and I am sure someone will have it, he claimed to have served in the Army National Guard for one year in the 1980's.



c
here is a full quote

I'm a veteran of the United States Marine Corps, having served active duty from 1971-1975, and concluding my military obligation in 1977. I served proudly and with some distinction, although I won't go into that. After a 7 year hiatus, I then joined the Army National Guard for a period of a year. I didn't like my guard time. But I finished my hitch and don't regret the experience ... although I could tell you some stories.

I consider myself a patriot, and I hold Honorable Discharges to prove it. Like many others since then, I left behind friends and men that I served with. They were the heroes not me.

Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 07:16 PM
Answer: No, that isn't why Ronee wasn't given that specific informatuon. Ronee wasn't given any inforamtion because she's on the stage performing. She's an actress.

You know, I actually MET Ronee working on a play in our local little theatre. We've shared a stage a dozen times. She directed a play I wrote and I directed her less than a year ago. She's a great actress.

So I can say with authority that what you're seeing here? No act, buddy-boy. This is all her. And you do NOT want Ronee, being herself, to get pissed at you.

DarrenCawsey
01-12-2007, 07:17 PM
Just so this doesn't go poof when he changes his mind. And in response to #4, that's just not the way the law works.

________________________________________________

Rick from TightLip Entertainment ™

Mr. MacQ asked:

4. Why will you not give Ronee the attorney contact information that she requires in order to comply with your conditions in order to be paid?

Answer: No, that isn't why Ronee wasn't given that specific informatuon. Ronee wasn't given any inforamtion because she's on the stage performing. She's an actress. When she's done performing and if she ever comes to her senses ... she knows how to contact me in order to get the release form. Other wise, if she believes that she really has a case -- which maybe Mark Waid would like to pay her legal bills? -- She can move forward in that manner. Maybe Mr. Waid will also pay for her divorce, child care expenses, groceries, and her DSL. Maybe?


Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment ™ on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 9:45 AM
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This is ridiculous.
He has admitted to owing Ronee money for work completed.

He has publicly stated that all she needs to do to get paid is forward a signed contract and NDA to his solicitor (which he can't actually make her do now after the fact, but that is a separate issue).

He is now saying that he will not allow her the ability to even do that by withholding the necessary info to comply with his ludicrous demands. Meaning that hey, he won't not pay her until what... she stops posting things he doesn't like? stops telling the truth? comes to him in private and begs for it?

Because that's what it sounds like and that is just, well I don't even have the words for how repugnant this guy is.



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colleen
01-12-2007, 07:18 PM
Something funny going on between 1975 and 1977.



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MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 07:18 PM
Onley claims whatever it is that will give him an advantage in order to screw you over,TC.

Careful.

There is a CBR member named Richard Onley, and he's a stand-up guy who should not be smeared here, even accidentally.

The perp is named Olney, not Onley.

Sarah Beach
01-12-2007, 07:19 PM
Rick Olney is the hallucination of a man with brain cancer?

I don't know what the friend with brain cancer has to do with it or why you have to explain nurses watching a Star Wars movie.

But he works those nurses into almost every recounting. Something's up with that if he mentions them compulsively.

And the letter? He never says it's from anyone related to LucasFilm -- and his previous stories contradict that.

I think the letter establishes why he had two nurses with him in the theater or something.

Oh, you know, there may be a letter of some sort. Untangling the way he tells the story, I figure it runs more like this "His friend with the brain tumor & 2 nurses was a big Star Wars fan. Someone connected to the friend contacted LucasFilm. After they saw the movie, they either got a tour of Skywalker Ranch (it's known to happen for charities - although it would require that Olney be not in Upstate New York, but in Marin County, California -- that would be the SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA, Mr. Geographically Challenged), or they got some charity loot sent to them (on request for the ailing fan - also something that happens). More probably the second, that is "they were instructed to go see the film" -- and mail the ticket stubs to LucasFilm at Skywalker Ranch (to confirm they saw the flick), whereupon the loot would have been mailed back to them.

I've seen variations of such arrangements made for film productions, companies and studios. Even my day-job (you go research that, peanut -- see if you can find the information about where I'm currently employed! That'll be fun!) occasionally sends out gift packages for charity auctions, although we've had to limit them lately, because of the high number of requests.

Comcman
01-12-2007, 07:19 PM
What the hell does he mean by that?

I think he is insinuating that since "Gail Simone" is a pen name, that is not the person that was married and is on the marriage certificate.

Personally, I think that Hildegard Grabowski-Lipschitz is a beautiful name and would sell a lot of books. I don't see the need for the change.

Oh wait, crap. I wasn't supposed to give that out.

By the way, Rick, the word you are looking for is RECOUNTING, not RECANTING. Common error.

Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 07:20 PM
I'm guessing that his birthdate was retconned due to Superboy-Prime punching a continuity wall.

Which was his idea.

colleen
01-12-2007, 07:21 PM
Did you tell the owner of the Comics in the Classroom website that you owned the copyright on his site name? If you did so, were you aware that domain names and book titles cannot be copyrighted?

Answer: I have exchanged emails with Scott and we're on the same page again. End of answer.

At the Comics in the Classroom website, the revised copyright information still stands as (c) Scott Tingley.

The same page may be the page wherein Scott actually owns the work he did after all.


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Sarah Beach
01-12-2007, 07:21 PM
Something funny going on between 1975 and 1977.



c

I just asked my sister about that. She said that wasn't unusual. How it went was that one would serve, say, four years on active duty of the 6 year commitment. Once the active duty was done, they were then on 2 years reserve status, and their final discharge would come at the end. So, apparently, those figures ring true for the era.

Comcman
01-12-2007, 07:22 PM
Duh.

His assertion is that since "Gail" is a pseudonym, he's not legally married to "Gail" he's married to her under her real name. A really stupid bit of evasion.

Damn, he beat me to it while I was looking up the spelling of Lipschitz.

:shaking fist smiley:

Larry Dixon
01-12-2007, 07:22 PM
Don'tcha get it, guys?

By not answering even the most basic questions, like lawyer names, service records and the like, he gets to be...

...wait for it...



...mysterious.


He gets to be shadowy, I-can't-talk-about-that, if-I-told-you-I'd-have-to-kill-you, I-am-the-night, no-one-may-know-me-because-I-read-Sun Tzu-once mysterious.

I mean, you *know* that he had to be a Marine Special Ops Uber Super Spy Commando, and that a lifetime of keeping such grim, gritty high security secrets makes his... uhhh... tight-lipped responses to direct questions into the battle-forged habit of a steel-hard military man.

Mysterious.

TomStillwell
01-12-2007, 07:22 PM
I'm still laughing that he named his obvious Mary Sue, "Magnus Grimoire."

Heh. :)

It's a shame Tightlip is dead, because they're the only ones with standards low enough to hire a 'writer' like that.

Gail

Gail, just for you I'm cooking up a Mary Sue character to cameo in Everyday Heroes.

Mucus Goldenrod or something. I'll figure it out.

Matt Algren
01-12-2007, 07:24 PM
Did you tell the owner of the Comics in the Classroom website that you owned the copyright on his site name? If you did so, were you aware that domain names and book titles cannot be copyrighted?

Answer: I have exchanged emails with Scott and we're on the same page again. End of answer.

At the Comics in the Classroom website, the revised copyright information still stands as (c) Scott Tingley.

The same page may be the page wherein Scott actually owns the work he did after all.


cMr. Tingley's reading the thread right now. (I know everything!) Hopefully he'll chime in once he's caught up.

TomStillwell
01-12-2007, 07:26 PM
I'm guessing that his birthdate was retconned due to Superboy-Prime punching a continuity wall.

Which was his idea.

Don't worry. I have his DOB.

colleen
01-12-2007, 07:27 PM
I just asked my sister about that. She said that wasn't unusual. How it went was that one would serve, say, four years on active duty of the 6 year commitment. Once the active duty was done, they were then on 2 years reserve status, and their final discharge would come at the end. So, apparently, those figures ring true for the era.


Yeah, but interesting how he has tried to spin it, for lo, these many years. He never made the distinction before. And earlier he states that he served three years of a six year commitment. On other threads, he baldly stated that he served for six years.

Regardless, hardly the full clip he kept claiming.


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Matt Algren
01-12-2007, 07:27 PM
Aaaaaaand some more. The questions are MacQ's in response to answers to earlier questions, which were . . . the hell with it. If you've made it this far, you can figure this one out.

____________________________________________

from TightLip Entertainment ™

Mr. MacQ asked:

1. Portions of your military record are public information freely available to anyone who asks. People are going to ask, so why not just state it here first?

Answer: Really? Then go for it.

2. You threatened to sue me for (a) violating your copyright by improperly reproducing your text from mightyminicon.com and (b) libel for my posts at CBR. My attorney would like to contact your attorney to get it moving. I gave you his information, but he still needs yours.

Yes, I know. Although if I could, I'd like to simply add that it wasn't a threat on my part. Let your attorney know that he'll be able to bill you in due time.

3. No, she doesn't. You are the one making the extraordinary claim. As the saying goes, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." Your story regarding the character's name has changed several times, and in fact has been deleted (by you) from at least one post at the official Star Wars forum. It's your claim, now you've been called on it. Prove it or stop claiming it. You do know that false advertising claims, such as this one which you are using to build credibility for ORCA, MightyMiniCon and TightLip, are investigated by the Federal Trade Commission and can result in massive penalties. I worked for Hooked on Phonics when the FTC put them in bankruptcy because of unsubstantiated claims. The stuff they claimed was actually true, but they didn't have proof, and it cost them. Just so you know.

Answer: I know that I answered this already. And I stand by my answer.

4. Okay, they were auctioned. Did the proceeds actually go to the charity for which they were intended? Which charity was that? Was the donation made in your name, or ORCA, or MightyMiniCon or TightLip?

Yes, they did. The rest of your questions are moot, however, and really none of your business. Oouuuu... cue the, "He's hiding something" music. Feh. Anyone affiliated with ORCA knows those answers. You're barking up the wrong tree, Mr. Scout Master. But nice try! End of answer.

5. We did. She said she does not know of anyone ever receiving any payment form you for anything. Ever.

Answer: Well I'd say that she should see a doctor then. Her memory must be failing.

6. Rubbish. You said you were part owner of the company. The creators retain complete ownership of the work, but the publsiher is owned outright by whoever owns it. Mike Richardson owns Dark Horse, but Stan Sakai owns Usagi Yojimbo, which Dark Horse publishes. So who is/are the other part owner(s)?

Answer: Can't answr a question that I've already answered, Mr. MacQ. No matter how much you'd like to make up your own answers.

Posted by Rick from TightLip Entertainment ™ on Friday, January 12, 2007 at 10:02 AM
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Koben Kelly
01-12-2007, 07:29 PM
She's an actress. When she's done performing and if she ever comes to her senses ... she knows how to contact me in order to get the release form.

Uhh... what the Hell does someone's community theater pastime have to do with anything? The term out of his ass comes to mind.

Maybe Mr. Waid will also pay for her divorce...

Wow. Dredging up someone's private life for the benefit of a bit of snark. As if divorce wasn't shitty enough. You, sir, are a class act.

Ro, I so wish he would get hit in the junk +10 damage.

---Koben:mad:

colleen
01-12-2007, 07:30 PM
Don'tcha get it, guys?

By not answering even the most basic questions, like lawyer names, service records and the like, he gets to be...

...wait for it...



...mysterious.


He gets to be shadowy, I-can't-talk-about-that, if-I-told-you-I'd-have-to-kill-you, I-am-the-night, no-one-may-know-me-because-I-read-Sun Tzu-once mysterious.

I mean, you *know* that he had to be a Marine Special Ops Uber Super Spy Commando, and that a lifetime of keeping such grim, gritty high security secrets makes his... uhhh... tight-lipped responses to direct questions into the battle-forged habit of a steel-hard military man.

Mysterious.

That would be about as lucid a description of what is going on as I have ever read.

Much of a muchness about the dark and mysterious life of a former corporal.

Sounds a lot more interesting than a stint peeling potatoes.


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Ronée
01-12-2007, 07:31 PM
Thanks Koben.

Do you know that when I resigned and called him a liar he said "I'm not your husband, you are confused"

asshole.

TomStillwell
01-12-2007, 07:32 PM
Something funny going on between 1975 and 1977.



c

You know, I think it is time to call the VA. They love to investigate scam artists using faux military service to get people to trust them.

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 07:32 PM
Never mind. Somebody beat me to it.

DarrenCawsey
01-12-2007, 07:34 PM
Thanks Koben.

Do you know that when I resigned and called him a liar he said "I'm not your husband, you are confused"

asshole.

I think you are being unfair.


Assholes serve a purpose.

Mark Blicharz
01-12-2007, 07:35 PM
If anyone didn't know this, he has no class. Going after Ronee's divorce? Give me a break. Grow a set, Rick. Fucking coward.

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 07:35 PM
Thanks Koben.

Do you know that when I resigned and called him a liar he said "I'm not your husband, you are confused"

asshole.

Thats the thing.... I'm sure you never ever mentioned his personal life beyond the business at hand. Why take a cheap shot on you at that point ? Before all this crazyness started .

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 07:36 PM
Hey, dig this:
http://www.homeofheroes.com/herobill/index.html

WASHINGTON, DC – Congressman John T. Salazar (CO-3), the only veteran from the Colorado delegation, today announced the introduction of the “Stolen Valor Act”, legislation to penalize distributors of phony medals and those who fraudulently claim to be decorated veterans. Salazar’s legislation would place criminal penalties on those who falsely claim to have risked their lives for our country, restoring honor to those who have truly earned it.

“Medals recognize the best American qualities – courage, honor, and sacrifice,” said Salazar. “These honors are reserved for those who willingly risked their lives for our country. The Medal of Honor is our nation’s highest military honor. And the Purple Heart is only awarded for genuine acts of courage. It is our job to protect the honor and integrity of our veterans, to make sure the memory of their heroism is not tarnished.”

B.G. Burkett’s award winning book “Stolen Valor” first exposed the problem of medals fraud. Current law only allows prosecution of imposters who wear an unearned Medal of Honor on their person. Salazar’s legislation will expand the law to include those who publicly claim to be decorated veterans, allowing the Federal Bureau of Investigation to finally prosecute several high profile cases (see attached profiles.)

“Shame on those who claim credit for acts of courage they did not commit, their lies are criminal” said Salazar. “Medal recipients are often too humble to parade their honors. By letting the phonies continue their masquerade, we diminish the honor of our true heroes. Federal law enforcement agents are willing to go after these frauds, Congress needs to provide the tools necessary to get the job done.”

Salazar’s legislation is the direct result of the efforts of Pam and Doug Sterner of Pueblo and Medal of Honor recipient Peter Lemon of Colorado Springs. The city of Pueblo in Salazar’s congressional district was designated “America’s Home of Heroes” by Congress, because it is home to more Medal of Honor recipients than elsewhere in the country.

rexmundi666
01-12-2007, 07:37 PM
No. "Haylie" posted a comment in his myspace blog offering "her" "services", and claiming to be in her last year of law school.

My post about it is here. (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4234619&postcount=6066)

~BevAh,I see thanks for clearing that up Papergirl.:)

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 07:39 PM
Hey, dig this:
http://www.homeofheroes.com/herobill/index.html

WASHINGTON, DC – Congressman John T. Salazar (CO-3), the only veteran from the Colorado delegation, today announced the introduction of the “Stolen Valor Act”, legislation to penalize distributors of phony medals and those who fraudulently claim to be decorated veterans. Salazar’s legislation would place criminal penalties on those who falsely claim to have risked their lives for our country, restoring honor to those who have truly earned it.

“Medals recognize the best American qualities – courage, honor, and sacrifice,” said Salazar. “These honors are reserved for those who willingly risked their lives for our country. The Medal of Honor is our nation’s highest military honor. And the Purple Heart is only awarded for genuine acts of courage. It is our job to protect the honor and integrity of our veterans, to make sure the memory of their heroism is not tarnished.”

B.G. Burkett’s award winning book “Stolen Valor” first exposed the problem of medals fraud. Current law only allows prosecution of imposters who wear an unearned Medal of Honor on their person. Salazar’s legislation will expand the law to include those who publicly claim to be decorated veterans, allowing the Federal Bureau of Investigation to finally prosecute several high profile cases (see attached profiles.)

“Shame on those who claim credit for acts of courage they did not commit, their lies are criminal” said Salazar. “Medal recipients are often too humble to parade their honors. By letting the phonies continue their masquerade, we diminish the honor of our true heroes. Federal law enforcement agents are willing to go after these frauds, Congress needs to provide the tools necessary to get the job done.”

Salazar’s legislation is the direct result of the efforts of Pam and Doug Sterner of Pueblo and Medal of Honor recipient Peter Lemon of Colorado Springs. The city of Pueblo in Salazar’s congressional district was designated “America’s Home of Heroes” by Congress, because it is home to more Medal of Honor recipients than elsewhere in the country.

That article if my mind remembers was in the USA Today a few weeks back. Because I showed it to my mom when I gave her the Life section. She likes the crossword puzzles. ;)

Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 07:40 PM
If anyone didn't know this, he has no class. Going after Ronee's divorce? Give me a break. Grow a set, Rick. Fucking coward.

That one line, buddy... that one line took me from being as pissed off as I already was, and multiplying that one hundredfold.

You ask people who know me... I'm generally regarded as a pretty nice guy. I'm not bragging in this respect, I can present a whole line-up of girls I went to high school and college with that were incredibly specific about this fact. I'm also usually nonconfrontational, often to a fault. I don't like fights. I don't like arguing.

But if there's one thing that will pull out my ire, that will send the blood rushing through my veins, that makes me flush red and sends sparks from my teeth and smoke from my ears... it's a bully. And make no mistake, that little line of bullshit is the work of nothing but a bully.

I waited on posting my story until after I made the official, legal announcement that I was extricating myself from this guy. Now, seeing him hurl this kind of vitriol against one of the people I care most about in the world... this is it. This is when the gloves come off.

The following is a slightly amended version of an e-mail I sent to Gail a few days ago. I told her I wasn't quite ready to put this out there yet. Now I am:

Until Ronee resigned a few weeks ago, I really had no idea what was going on with Rick. This thread has really opened my eyes and made me question things going back to the beginning of my association with him. After Ronee cut the deal with him to publish Evertime, he sent me a contract. When we were in negotiations, I had no delusions about making a fortune off this project -- a brand-new publisher, a writer nobody knows, an unproven property... the fact that it was getting ink at ALL was Heaven to me. Still, he offered me a page rate that I thought was more than fair. The only thing I wanted -- the only thing that was non-negotiable -- was that I wanted to retain ownership of the property. I have no problem with doing work for hire, and I'm even eager to do so, but this is a story I've been carrying around with me for 10 years. It's my baby. I didn't want to give that up. When I got the contract, though, as I scanned it over, I noticed something very disturbing. The one thing I insisted on, the clause making it clear that I retained copyright, was missing. Ronee and I brought that to Rick’s attention, and he told us that he’d simply made a mistake and sent us the earlier draft. I took him at his word, because at the time I had no reason to believe he was lying. As Ronee will be the first to tell you, my biggest flaw is that I’m too quick to believe the best in people.

We got the properly amended contract (properly amended, no doubt, since Ronee inserted the clause herself) and I sent Rick, via a private forum on his message board, descriptions of my main characters, a synopsis for the first four-issue arc and the full script for Evertime #1. After that, there wasn’t much communication for a while. At first, Rick again pointed to the death of his mother and the other family member, and I completely accepted it. I’ll forgive virtually anything if someone is doing it for the sake of their family. (See: my biggest flaw.)

After that, Ronee (still doing her kick-ass job as my manager) began to push him to seek out an artist so we could really get started on my book. Rick would periodically pop in, show me a piece of art from some artist or another and tell me, unequivocally, that this was the artist for my book. Then a few weeks later he’d pop back, tell me that artist was moving on to something else, and this new guy was unequivocally my artist. I should point out, here, that none of the art he was showing me had anything to do with Evertime. The art was work done for Tales of the Spooky or, sometimes, other publishers entirely. To date, I have not seen so much as a pencil sketch of one of my characters or concepts from anybody employed by Tightlip Entertainment.

The day Ronee left the company, Rick sent me a message asking what my status with him was, and I told him I needed to talk to her about it all. Ronee is my manager, but she’s also one of my dearest friends, and if she was bailing on this guy, I needed to know why. She advised me, from then on, to direct all communication with Rick through her. Since then, I’ve gotten two more messages from him, the first informing me that he will retain the rights to publish my book (emphasis his), the second to tell me that, despite what “Gail Simone” said (quotation marks his) this would all be worked out legally soon. I have not replied to him.

The only reason I haven’t spoken up yet is because of the NDA. I wanted to make sure I wasn’t opening myself up to any action from the guy. (Flaw #2: I’m a man of my word. Flaw #3: I’m the most neurotic guy this side of Woody Allen.) But I’m pretty frustrated about this whole situation. I don’t in any way think I’ve been nearly as wronged as Val or Mike or the other guys. True, he’s never paid me a dime, but I also didn’t write anything on his watch. The only script I’ve turned in to him was finished long before I knew who he is, and nothing I’ve produced since then will ever see his eyes, unless I’m feeling sadistic enough to send him a comp copy should it ever actually make it to print. I don’t feel like I’ve been cheated out of money, I feel like I’ve been cheated out of TIME. I’ve lost six months I could have used shopping this around to legitimate publishers, or pouring energy into different projects instead of something that wasn’t nearly close to publication as I was led to believe. All I want at this point is to know I can take the book somewhere else without worrying about the stink of this guy coming with me.

Howler
01-12-2007, 07:42 PM
Christ, is there ANYTHING this guy didn't lie about?

Are we POSITIVE he's not a skrull?

Gail
The SuperStink-Skrull perhaps?

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4934/superstinkskrulltb1.gif

rexmundi666
01-12-2007, 07:43 PM
Thanks Koben.

Do you know that when I resigned and called him a liar he said "I'm not your husband, you are confused"

asshole.Whatta peice of shit...:evilangry

colleen
01-12-2007, 07:46 PM
Blake, that is a terrible story. I cannot even begin to tell you how sorry I am.



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Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 07:48 PM
Thanks, Colleen. But like I said, there are other guys here who have been hurt MUCH more than I have. I'm just joining the chorus.

(I'd like to sing tenor, if there's a spot open.)

colleen
01-12-2007, 07:48 PM
Do you know that when I resigned and called him a liar he said "I'm not your husband, you are confused"



!!!!!JEEZUS Christ!!!!!

CitC
01-12-2007, 07:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by colleen View Post
Did you tell the owner of the Comics in the Classroom website that you owned the copyright on his site name? If you did so, were you aware that domain names and book titles cannot be copyrighted?

Answer: I have exchanged emails with Scott and we're on the same page again. End of answer.

At the Comics in the Classroom website, the revised copyright information still stands as (c) Scott Tingley.

The same page may be the page wherein Scott actually owns the work he did after all.


c
Mr. Tingley's reading the thread right now. (I know everything!) Hopefully he'll chime in once he's caught up.

See now, I've tried to be a nice guy about all of this. I remained very diplomatic, even seconded the call to lay off his wife. I only hit refresh on the thread just to see if there was anything else that concerned me before going off to watch Numb3rs and then go to bed - but no. This had to come up.

Rick, I hope we are on the same page. As long as this is the page:

In response to an email from him:
"Rick,

Why don't you write me up a quick letter saying that you have no claim
over the term "Comics in the Classroom" as used on my site and
therefore have no claim over any part of my site - especially since
your program and my site are two completely different entities. Any
program I may decide to develop would not use that name anyway.
Thanks for that.

You can send it to:
Scott Tingley"
etc.

Ronée
01-12-2007, 07:52 PM
geez, he told me that site was his almost a year ago! what an ass....

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 07:52 PM
What the hell does he mean by that?

He means "I lied about this twice and got caught like a lying deadbeat moron and so I can't actually answer this, someone please save me, I can't stop my own mouth from destroying my precious, precious web of lies."

Gail

rexmundi666
01-12-2007, 07:55 PM
That one line, buddy... that one line took me from being as pissed off as I already was, and multiplying that one hundredfold.

You ask people who know me... I'm generally regarded as a pretty nice guy. I'm not bragging in this respect, I can present a whole line-up of girls I went to high school and college with that were incredibly specific about this fact. I'm also usually nonconfrontational, often to a fault. I don't like fights. I don't like arguing.

But if there's one thing that will pull out my ire, that will send the blood rushing through my veins, that makes me flush red and sends sparks from my teeth and smoke from my ears... it's a bully. And make no mistake, that little line of bullshit is the work of nothing but a bully.

I waited on posting my story until after I made the official, legal announcement that I was extricating myself from this guy. Now, seeing him hurl this kind of vitriol against one of the people I care most about in the world... this is it. This is when the gloves come off.

The following is a slightly amended version of an e-mail I sent to Gail a few days ago. I told her I wasn't quite ready to put this out there yet. Now I am:

Until Ronee resigned a few weeks ago, I really had no idea what was going on with Rick. This thread has really opened my eyes and made me question things going back to the beginning of my association with him. After Ronee cut the deal with him to publish Evertime, he sent me a contract. When we were in negotiations, I had no delusions about making a fortune off this project -- a brand-new publisher, a writer nobody knows, an unproven property... the fact that it was getting ink at ALL was Heaven to me. Still, he offered me a page rate that I thought was more than fair. The only thing I wanted -- the only thing that was non-negotiable -- was that I wanted to retain ownership of the property. I have no problem with doing work for hire, and I'm even eager to do so, but this is a story I've been carrying around with me for 10 years. It's my baby. I didn't want to give that up. When I got the contract, though, as I scanned it over, I noticed something very disturbing. The one thing I insisted on, the clause making it clear that I retained copyright, was missing. Ronee and I brought that to Rick’s attention, and he told us that he’d simply made a mistake and sent us the earlier draft. I took him at his word, because at the time I had no reason to believe he was lying. As Ronee will be the first to tell you, my biggest flaw is that I’m too quick to believe the best in people.

We got the properly amended contract (properly amended, no doubt, since Ronee inserted the clause herself) and I sent Rick, via a private forum on his message board, descriptions of my main characters, a synopsis for the first four-issue arc and the full script for Evertime #1. After that, there wasn’t much communication for a while. At first, Rick again pointed to the death of his mother and the other family member, and I completely accepted it. I’ll forgive virtually anything if someone is doing it for the sake of their family. (See: my biggest flaw.)

After that, Ronee (still doing her kick-ass job as my manager) began to push him to seek out an artist so we could really get started on my book. Rick would periodically pop in, show me a piece of art from some artist or another and tell me, unequivocally, that this was the artist for my book. Then a few weeks later he’d pop back, tell me that artist was moving on to something else, and this new guy was unequivocally my artist. I should point out, here, that none of the art he was showing me had anything to do with Evertime. The art was work done for Tales of the Spooky or, sometimes, other publishers entirely. To date, I have not seen so much as a pencil sketch of one of my characters or concepts from anybody employed by Tightlip Entertainment.

The day Ronee left the company, Rick sent me a message asking what my status with him was, and I told him I needed to talk to her about it all. Ronee is my manager, but she’s also one of my dearest friends, and if she was bailing on this guy, I needed to know why. She advised me, from then on, to direct all communication with Rick through her. Since then, I’ve gotten two more messages from him, the first informing me that he will retain the rights to publish my book (emphasis his), the second to tell me that, despite what “Gail Simone” said (quotation marks his) this would all be worked out legally soon. I have not replied to him.

The only reason I haven’t spoken up yet is because of the NDA. I wanted to make sure I wasn’t opening myself up to any action from the guy. (Flaw #2: I’m a man of my word. Flaw #3: I’m the most neurotic guy this side of Woody Allen.) But I’m pretty frustrated about this whole situation. I don’t in any way think I’ve been nearly as wronged as Val or Mike or the other guys. True, he’s never paid me a dime, but I also didn’t write anything on his watch. The only script I’ve turned in to him was finished long before I knew who he is, and nothing I’ve produced since then will ever see his eyes, unless I’m feeling sadistic enough to send him a comp copy should it ever actually make it to print. I don’t feel like I’ve been cheated out of money, I feel like I’ve been cheated out of TIME. I’ve lost six months I could have used shopping this around to legitimate publishers, or pouring energy into different projects instead of something that wasn’t nearly close to publication as I was led to believe. All I want at this point is to know I can take the book somewhere else without worrying about the stink of this guy coming with me.Wow,Blake just wow...

CitC
01-12-2007, 07:56 PM
geez, he told me that site was his almost a year ago! what an ass.... Are you talking about MY site?

Koben Kelly
01-12-2007, 07:56 PM
Thanks Koben.

Do you know that when I resigned and called him a liar he said "I'm not your husband, you are confused"

asshole.

...and then you wrote your declaration of independence for everyone interested to see. That was the last straw... right? Right?

Guess who's gonna be wearing a RICK OLNEY NEVER PAID ME t-shirt at Heroes this year? Matter of fact, if you're there with Lulu, I'll gift you with one.

---Koben:mad:

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 07:56 PM
First of all fucknut, my impending divorce is none of your business and as for the DSL you OFFERED to get it for me in order to do the web work you had planned for your big store. Child care expenses came in only because I told you that due to you not paying me I could NOT pay my sitter!

Actress? There is no acting here by anyone but you, and dear lord you suck.

Wait, 'big store?'

And you said he was securing his assets because he was leaving his wife, correct, despite his claims of happy marriage?

What a weasel.

Gail

TCJohnson
01-12-2007, 07:57 PM
You ask people who know me... I'm generally regarded as a pretty nice guy. I'm not bragging in this respect, I can present a whole line-up of girls I went to high school and college with that were incredibly specific about this fact. I'm also usually nonconfrontational, often to a fault. I don't like fights. I don't like arguing.

Blake has always come across as a nice guy...not sure about his taste in comics but a nice guy. (I am joking! I swear! Put down the mace!)


But if there's one thing that will pull out my ire, that will send the blood rushing through my veins, that makes me flush red and sends sparks from my teeth and smoke from my ears... it's a bully. And make no mistake, that little line of bullshit is the work of nothing but a bully.

yeah. I got into this argument because I like Ronee and hated to see her being ripped off. But then every fact I learned about this guy got me more and more pissed off. It is not just that he is a bully, he is a self righteous hypcrite. I mean, he can make as much fun of other people as he wants, but if you do the same to him he goes running for his lawyer. He can steal and fraud and if you mention it once he theatens. Damn that pisses me off.

All I want at this point is to know I can take the book somewhere else without worrying about the stink of this guy coming with me.

That is why when I saw your name come up I pointed this out to you. I know you don't follow the comic book rumor mill that much, and thought you would want to do damage control so that the rep of your "publisher" didn't begin to rub off on you

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 07:58 PM
Duh.

His assertion is that since "Gail" is a pseudonym, he's not legally married to "Gail" he's married to her under her real name. A really stupid bit of evasion.

Yeah, whatever, I've been married to the same wonderful guy I fell in love with when I was still in high school and we've barely spent a day apart since.

Gail

Ronée
01-12-2007, 07:58 PM
Are you talking about MY site?YEA! I have it bookmarked because when we were first discussing Blakes comic he told me it was one of his.. what a tool!

Blake Petit
01-12-2007, 07:59 PM
That is why when I saw your name come up I pointed this out to you. I know you don't follow the comic book rumor mill that much, and thought you would want to do damage control so that the rep of your "publisher" didn't begin to rub off on you

And again, TC, thanks for pointing me here. I was already talking to Ronee quite a bit about all this, but reading it all for myself... good heavens. It's just unbelievable.

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 07:59 PM
geez, he told me that site was his almost a year ago! what an ass....

I nearly choked laughing...its wrong I know. But my god...thats just wild. He showed you CTC's site and claimed it was his ? Damnnn.....and for good effect...

( Click this...you'll at least get a slight chuckle I promise)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbZEa7boW9w

Wil Radcliffe
01-12-2007, 08:03 PM
Yeah, whatever, I've been married to the same wonderful guy I fell in love with when I was still in high school and we've barely spent a day apart since.

Gail

Rick's still with the person he fell in love with in high school too...

... himself.

rexmundi666
01-12-2007, 08:03 PM
I guess my earlier statement about him sitting on orginal art work and scrpits may not be all that far off.

CitC
01-12-2007, 08:05 PM
YEA! I have it bookmarked because when we were first discussing Blakes comic he told me it was one of his.. what a tool!

See now. I wan't going to do this. I wasnt going to post his emails. But now I've missed the beginning of Numb3rs and I have nothing else to do.

Ronée, your statement kind of contradicts the email he sent me 2 days ago:

He said that he had no interes in my website at all and would say so in writing.

My love of Numb3rs has broken my resolve.

Edit: Some content edited to reflect a clearer head after a nights sleep. I think I am done with this thread.

rexmundi666
01-12-2007, 08:05 PM
I nearly choked laughing...its wrong I know. But my god...thats just wild. He showed you CTC's site and claimed it was his ? Damnnn.....and for good effect...

( Click this...you'll at least get a slight chuckle I promise)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbZEa7boW9w"Damn!"-Ron Simmons:cool:

Mark Blicharz
01-12-2007, 08:07 PM
The people who know me from CX aka Blake, Ronee, and Gail know that I'm typically very tolerant of shit. I'll get frustrated but anger is an emotion that rarely comes up. After reading what Rick said to Ronee about her husband and her divorce I'm beyond livid. Ronee and I have had our arguements but her private life should NEVER be brought up into a business matter. Frankly, Rick, you're worse then the scum of the Earth. You're a piece of shit. I hope all of these people sue you for so much cash that your grandchildren will be paying for your fuck ups.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 08:07 PM
Thanks Koben.

Do you know that when I resigned and called him a liar he said "I'm not your husband, you are confused"

asshole.

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

Yuck, I just got a shiver!

Gail

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 08:07 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaamn...

The more I read about this asshat, the more I want to see him behind bars for life.

Blake, Ronée... You both have my respect and sympathies.

~Bev

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 08:08 PM
Yeah, whatever, I've been married to the same wonderful guy I fell in love with when I was still in high school and we've barely spent a day apart since.

Gail
That is awesome. Makes me happy in my heart to know that. Especially since he's a mensch.

Ronée
01-12-2007, 08:08 PM
See now. I wan't going to do this. I wasnt going to post his emails. But now I've missed the beginning of Numb3rs and I have nothing else to do.

Ronée, your statement kind of contradicts the email he sent me 2 days ago:

"Scott:

Allow me to state to you that: I have NO INTEREST what-so-ever in your website. I merely originally asked for you to denote my claim to copyright on "Comics in the Classroom" ... so send me anything you need me to sign so you have it legally in writing. Sorry that my effort was misconstrued under any conditions. It was not my intention. Thank you."

My love of Numb3rs has broken my resolve.yes, when he was doing one of his numerous "look at me, I'm cool!" speeches he briefly told me about his "comics in the classroom" project and threw me the link to YOUR site.

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 08:09 PM
"Damn!"-Ron Simmons:cool:

I can imagine watching this unfold on TV and having Simmons come in and go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYPK-ll3a6c





DAAAAAMMMMNNN!!!

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 08:10 PM
The SuperStink-Skrull perhaps?

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4934/superstinkskrulltb1.gif

Heh.

By all accounts, Billy Tucci is a stand up guy. Wonder what he'd think of Rick's having cheated all these good people.

Gail

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 08:12 PM
Who needs a hobby?

http://www.lib.msu.edu/unsworth/american/military/phvet.htm

rexmundi666
01-12-2007, 08:13 PM
I can imagine watching this unfold on TV and having Simmons come in and go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYPK-ll3a6c





DAAAAAMMMMNNN!!!Then kicking his pasty ass all over the place!:D

Wil Radcliffe
01-12-2007, 08:14 PM
And somewhere, a kitty goes postal.

http://www.airdisaster.com/user-uploads/cat_gun.gif



(Edited to add: I do not condone the giving of firearms to house pets and would never encourage said house pets to inflict harm on others in anyway whatsoever.)

Rick Olney
01-12-2007, 08:17 PM
Went and looked.... the blog enteries seem to be there, but then I was just looking at the #3 section. Wherein he tosses my way this:



Why don't I? Let's see, duffus.

(1) I don't have a mySpace account and I don't want one. So I can't post there.

(2) You're obviously reading everything over here, so why go there, where I have to look at your gadawful unartistic logo.

(3) You have no intention of answering any of them anyway. I know that. You don't have the courage.

(4) I wouldn't give you the satisfaction of posting in your "comfort zone". And yes, that is hostility. You were vile to the Dixonverse community, and I feel rather like a mother tiger for my brangling brats (said with MUCH affection for the gang -- no, they're not really brats: compared to you, Mr. Olney, they are very, very high class ladies and gentlemen, even Beau!).

peanut peanut peanut -- and that's NOT a term of affection.


So what's your question(s)?

MacQuarrie
01-12-2007, 08:19 PM
Remember, everybody quote and copy everything Rick posts as soon as he posts it.

Make sure he can't edit or redact a syllable.

Rick Olney
01-12-2007, 08:19 PM
Say, did ANYONE ever get one of the promised coffee mugs with the MMC logo that Mr. OrcaPoop promised us all if we showed up when he hosted a chat waaaaaaaaaay back when on the SPA chats?

Funny, mine must have gotten lost in the frickin' mail.

Oh, is that your problem? Never got your free mug, right? I don't have your mailing address. If you cared enough to send it to me in an email or PM I'd mail you one.

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 08:20 PM
Then kicking his pasty ass all over the place!:D

Actually I'd love to see this guy do the job. Complete with his awesome entrance music. It would make an awesome wrestling fued.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8347434301911590270&q=Sandman+Entrance&hl=en

Rick Olney
01-12-2007, 08:21 PM
Remember, everybody quote and copy everything Rick posts as soon as he posts it.

Make sure he can't edit or redact a syllable.

You're a funny guy, MacQuarrie.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 08:22 PM
While we're at it, I want to wish Dennis Kininger, who really did try his best to make the Mighty Mini Con a nice experience, and is a very decent fellow, a happy birthday.

Happy Birthday, Dennis!

Gail

Rick Olney
01-12-2007, 08:22 PM
Give me some time to catch up on my reading here. Thanks. Then I'll gladly try to post semi-intelligently so I can be understood clearly. Let me know if I'm typing too slow, okay?

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 08:23 PM
So what's your question(s)?

Oh, is that your problem? Never got your free mug, right? I don't have your mailing address. If you cared enough to send it to me in an email or PM I'd mail you one.

You're a funny guy, MacQuarrie.

Quoted for posterity. :D

~Bev

Corrina
01-12-2007, 08:24 PM
Certainly, the apologies for missed payment deadlines are not being typed fast enough, among other things.

Matt Algren
01-12-2007, 08:25 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Can we make sure this doesn't turn into a mess like the other night? Civility in the face of a no good so-and-so is difficult, but it's exponentially more rewarding than mud slinging. Hit him with facts, not insults.

PLEASE.

The fate of the free world depends on it.

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 08:25 PM
Signing a goddamned check once in a blue moon shouldn't be too time-consuming.

Gail

SUPERECWFAN1
01-12-2007, 08:27 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Can we make sure this doesn't turn into a mess like the other night? Civility in the face of a so-and-so is difficult, but it's exponentially more rewarding than mud slinging. Hit him with facts, not insults. PLEASE. The fate of the free world depends on it.

Yeah lets all try to be nice. I mean I joke around about me wrestling clips. But dats me passion baby. :p

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 08:29 PM
All right, Rick. Two questions.

Did you pay for my husband's airfare, as you twice claimed here?


And...

Do you admit that you have not paid even those artists and creators who did sign an NDA AND have not yet gone public?


That's all for now.

Gail

Gail Simone
01-12-2007, 08:30 PM
Yeah lets all try to be nice. I mean I joke around about me wrestling clips. But dats me passion baby. :p

Which I don't understand at all. :)

Gail

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 08:30 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Can we make sure this doesn't turn into a mess like the other night? Civility in the face of a no good so-and-so is difficult, but it's exponentially more rewarding than mud slinging. Hit him with facts, not insults.

PLEASE.

The fate of the free world depends on it.

I was being nice! I did not make a single catty remark to anything he's typed here since his return.

:)

~Bev

THEDOC
01-12-2007, 08:31 PM
Well.

I've been in contact with 2 more former-colleagues of Moby Prick, one who was another ill-fated columnist (and is still owed money) and one who was a former friend.

Danny Donovan started his articles around the same time I did, for the same payment arrangement and the same excuses. He's since written the Blubbery-One off and gone on to do significantly better things since his disassociation.

Sam Catalino's run-ins with Moby were legendary on the MMC forums. He told Moby off in 50 words or less.

Neither have anything positive to add.

I'm still hoping I hear from the last of us columnists. May do a bit of hunting this morning.

As a side-note, I have heard Mrs Olney on the phone when she accidentally picked up the other line. She exists. I also can't help but think she has no clue as to what he's been doing to people; she never once sat in on 'business' discussions, and I never once heard him say he'd talk things over with her when it came to finances. I discuss everything with Daphne, even if it's just to get her feedback; if they've been married that long, I'd have to believe he'd do the same to some extent. I'm willing to bet he made everything sound totally legit to her, covering up his 'indiscretions' and passing the blame.

My best guess? She's as much a victim as we are.

One does not do these sorta things accidentally. He's sly, but this goes beyond 'slick'. He had to have planned all this out, had the contingencies ready, done his own legal 'research'. I have yet to read from anyone, from those in the business to those with legal savvy, who say that NDAs cover what he believes.

The scary thought is, if he put this much effort into a solid business plan instead of such treachery, he might actually have a publishing chance.

. . .

Yeah, I almost got that out with a straight face.




Doc 'Et Tu, Olney?' Absurd

Glad Danny got a hold of you Tim.

Rick Olney
01-12-2007, 08:32 PM
I love it when people try to impress me with "war stories". Rick claims on his myspace page that he is 52. Uh. Huh. If so, he would have graduated high school in 1972. Did he get drafted? I doubt he would remember, being a "G-4" after six years.

Oh, I get it. The guy smoked his brains out while "in country", and that's what led to all this baloney he's trying to give us now. Wait. The Marines didn't put up with that kind of thing. They have honor, after all.

Who said I was trying to impress you? Who are you to impeach my honor?

I am actually 53. I was an E-4 in just 13 months, including basic and speciality training. I took my NCO training at Ona Point on Okinawa, and was TDY for 4 months, along with 2 months in Korea, 30 days in P.I., and I saw Japan several times on R&R. Got two Meritorius Masts, and was up for Sargeant twice. 'Course, I had so much salt that the Staff NCO's treated me like a Sargeant. Stateside, I was TDY last at Camp Elmore. I also ran dispatches from Fleet HQ there at Norfolk, VA. Beyond that, I am like anyone else serving in the Marine Corps during that period of time.

I will answer NO MORE personal questions.

THEDOC
01-12-2007, 08:35 PM
I can't wrap my head around the fact that with all the links, the blogs, the messageboards, with the way this forum has been spread around, that not one single live mentally-competent person has stepped forward. We haven't heard from a charity that he's donated books to, a vendor who completed a transaction, a creator who's had their contract met, a guest who was treated like . . . well, like a guest.

This truly has become the anti 'This Is Your Life'.




Doc 'Will the Next Victim Kindly Sign In?' Absurd

I googled his name at work, my gosh what amount of pages there are on him ..did you know there is an artist named Richard Olney that people confuse him with "Rick" I wonder what he is thinking now.

Papergirl
01-12-2007, 08:37 PM
Who said I was trying to impress you? Who are you to impeach my honor?

I am actually 53. I was an E-4 in just 13 months, including basic and speciality training. I took my NCO training at Ona Point on Okinawa, and was TDY for 4 months, along with 2 months in Korea, 30 days in P.I., and I saw Japan several times on R&R. Got two Meritorius Masts, and was up for Sargeant twice. 'Course, I had so much salt that the Staff NCO's treated me like a Sargeant. Stateside, I was TDY last at Camp Elmore. I also ran dispatches from Fleet HQ there at Norfolk, VA. Beyond that, I am like anyone else serving in the Marine Corps during that period of time.

I will answer NO MORE personal questions.

Got it.

~Bev

THEDOC
01-12-2007, 08:37 PM
Hey guys not much to contribute, but when Unscrewed comes out if anyone wants a table at one of my shows to promote it (or just to have some copies at the show to sell) I can get some free tables open.

The same goes for the IF Jam in March or any future show..wait Tim and Daohne will hopefully be there!

THEDOC
01-12-2007, 08:39 PM
A mod at Billy Tucci's board just emailed me (thank you, I'll hold your name til you say otherwise) with an interesting tidbit.

Rick is claiming to have thousands of dollars in Marvel comics he was intending to sell. For those who feel he has no money at all, it might make a very interesting point to tell the judge in any court case, that he has this kind of value in liquifiable collectibles.

http://www.crusadefinearts.com/forums/index.php/topic,1382.15.html

" Re: Anyone want to help me eviscerate someone?
« Reply #19 on: Sat, November 18, 2006, 15:20:24 »

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You guys are scaring me.

I have between 12-13k worth of Marvel multiple back issues from 1962-1979 that I was going to begin having placed on Ebay. They're not CGC'ed, but the grading is spot-on and the books are sweet between Vg+ and Vf. Yet now I'm reading these horror stories and this looks like somethng I don't want to get into. Maybe a better way to go is adding a shopping cart to one of my websites and peddling them that way? ???

Logged

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Regards,
~Rick

"

I would frankly love the irony if he lost his comics paying back people he's cheated.

Gail

He probably actually has multuple copes of the Spider-Clone series

THEDOC
01-12-2007, 08:41 PM
Now say it with me...

1.....2......3.....

COPIED!!!

If anyone else finds more fun links, let me know. I want to be a star witness!

Have you Googled for any there were a whole mess of results. I just could not go into them at work.