Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Magneto_X]

ORCA is simply a shell company he just hides that with a bunch of vage NPO talk and various other claims like being affilated with the Salvation Army.

If this is true isn't there a legal branch of the government made to deal with this type of fraud? :confused:

Mac:

Perhaps she is to busy, with the kids and/or work, to know what trouble Olney has been up to.

He certainly hasn't withdrawn any specific amounts from their bank account(s) for her to notice (since he seems to stiff everyone on payments).

It is also possible that Sarah's correct and she is into the scam with him, too.

[TCJohnson]

There are several possible charges that warrant jail time, I believe. I wish CBR's resident prosecutors were here.

I wonder what stories we will here when he comes out...how he united the gangs of the prison and became their leader

or

how horrible it all was, he was a prison bitch and we should all feel terribly guilty about it.

[Magneto_X]

TCJ:

I'm thinking the latter.

He doesn't seem the "leadership" type to me.

[Papergirl]

I don't know any women that stupid. If she were in on it, she would have broken his fingers before he could type any of the inflammatory and incriminating stuff we saw all over the comicsphere.

Interestingly, I don't know any women trusting enough to have a business in their name and NOT know everything that was going on. I know *I* certainly wouldn't go for it. Period.

Also, it IS possible that she shares his views and has no problem with him posting it all over the internet. On the other hand, perhaps she's not internet savvy enough to go poking around message boards to see what he's up to.

Point is, I have a hard time believing that she's gullible enough to have her name all over this and NOT know the financial score.

Just me and my opinion. I could very well be wrong. And I hope, for her sake, I am. But it's not something that should just be dismissed as a possibility.

~Bev

[sk716]

French proverb: "You must not just want what you want, you must also want everything that goes with it."

Never forget, he chose this. Over and over, he chose this. He went out of his way to choose this. He spent hours looking for more opportunities to choose this.

I got no pity on him. I feel bad for her, but that's on him. He did this to her. On purpose.

Poor lady.

You know, I don't feel bad for her. Not at all. She's the one in charge of the checking account. She must have been fully aware of MMC, it would be kind of hard for that to slip under the wife's radar. So, what, it didn't occur to her to ask where he was getting the money to pay for it. It's possible he hid the comics from her. Possible, not probable. More than likely she knew he was into some kind of publishing venture and yet she's in charge of the checkbook and she doesn't ask how these people are getting paid?

[Papergirl]

You know, I don't feel bad for her. Not at all. She's the one in charge of the checking account. She must have been fully aware of MMC, it would be kind of hard for that to slip under the wife's radar. So, what, it didn't occur to her to ask where he was getting the money to pay for it. It's possible he hid the comics from her. Possible, not probable. More than likely she knew he was into some kind of publishing venture and yet she's in charge of the checkbook and she doesn't ask how these people are getting paid?

THANK YOU! My point exactly!

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

TCJ:

I'm thinking the latter.

He doesn't seem the "leadership" type to me.

Remember...even the Exxon Valdez and the Titanic had captains.

[Magneto_X]

She could be a shy woman that he can boss around.

Wouldn't surprise me. Rick has clearly shown he can't handle women who are his intellictual equal and/or superior who can stand up for themselves (Gail, Ronee, Joanne, Sarah etc).

This is pure speculation, of course.

Matt:

They also had loyal flunkies.

"Rick" had to lie to practically everyone just to keep them as business partners and friends. They didn't.

[TomStillwell]

All of the Domains are registered to "Rick Olney."

That doesn't really help much as once a domain is registered you can change the DNS info to whatever you want.

But I have to think either his legal name is Rick or Rick isn't short for Richard.

Don't worry. I found him and his wife. I dug a little today and found small but interesting things. Tomorrow I'll dig deeper and start looking at Tightlip.

Did no one warn Rick that this is what I get paid to do besides make comics?

I recall him making fun of me for working in a law firm. Big mistake.

[MacQuarrie]

Interestingly, I don't know any women trusting enough to have a business in their name and NOT know everything that was going on. I know *I* certainly wouldn't go for it. Period.
Does she know she has a business in her name? Has he ever filed any kind of business papers? A DBA? Not that we know of.

Also, it IS possible that she shares his views and has no problem with him posting it all over the internet. On the other hand, perhaps she's not internet savvy enough to go poking around message boards to see what he's up to.
Bingo. I'll bet a dollar that's the case.
Point is, I have a hard time believing that she's gullible enough to have her name all over this and NOT know the financial score.
She may be gullible enough to trust her husband to deal with his own little hobby and not bother her with it.
Just me and my opinion. I could very well be wrong. And I hope, for her sake, I am. But it's not something that should just be dismissed as a possibility.

~Bev
Well, if she wasn't involved before, she is now. Community property and all that.

[bert]

You are dead to me.

DEAD.

I'm sitting shiva right now.

That's OK. . just like Terra, I'll keep coming back from the dead.


each time in a skimpier costume.


eventually, I'll just be wearing a piece of string -- just like last Saturday!

[rexmundi666]

Color me jaded and cynical, but... Just exactly how sure are we that the wife isn't in on it? Olney may be the "front man", but that does not necessarily mean that the wife is 100% innocent in all of this.

~Bev
Naturally suspicious.You have a point there.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Don't worry. I found him and his wife. I dug a little today and found small but interesting things. Tomorrow I'll dig deeper and start looking at Tightlip.

Did no one warn Rick that this is what I get paid to do besides make comics?

I recall him making fun of me for working in a law firm. Big mistake.

Yeah theres a lesson here somewhere that ya don't screw with someone who can pretty much has a job that requires looking into someones background.

[TomStillwell]

Yeah theres a lesson here somewhere that ya don't screw with someone who can pretty much has a job that requires looking into someones background.

Should I mention that I have his home phone # and those of all his neighbors?:evilsmile

[EdContradictory]

Dennis Kinninger was president, and Dennis is a perfectly nice fellow.
Really dying to hear from him at this point...

[Magneto_X]

Should I mention that I have his home phone # and those of all his neighbors?:evilsmile

*beginning to get scared of Tom*

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Should I mention that I have his home phone # and those of all his neighbors?:evilsmile

As long as you know I love you and bow to you....promise you'll never hurt me. Because I'm scared now of the power. ;)

[Sarah Beach]

Should I mention that I have his home phone # and those of all his neighbors?:evilsmile

Part of my mind goes "Have we gone too far and really crossed into the stalker mentality?"

But, really? No. We're probably making an effort not attempted before, as a community endeavor, for the health and protection of the community at large. He is a blight on the profession, and as we've seen, been very toxic toward a number of up-and-comers. And that's not healthy for the community.

We're none of us really rampaging to run down his street and assault him. We just want justice done. All around.



Whew.... had to get that out of my system. Because we are indeed turning up the heat on him. But I thought I'd just stop are review our justification.

Yup. We good.

[Gail Simone]

Really dying to hear from him at this point...

I talked to him. I stand by my impression that he's a decent guy who tried hard to make the con a success.

Honestly, I think Dennis is no part of the bad stuff.

Gail

[Sarah Beach]

I talked to him. I stand by my impression that he's a decent guy who tried hard to make the con a success.

Honestly, I think Dennis is no part of the bad stuff.

Gail

Not even having met/spoken to him, I'd agree. Same goes for Dave Lanphear who does not deserve the blame-garbage that Olney was putting on him regarding TotS#1.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

An important thing to look at is who will Olney get to print the books he has ? Its said he has over 60 pages of material so what happens when he decides to move forward and have the books printed ?

Also its easy to really get close with people in your LCS. I know the one I shop at has always floated the idea of letting me pay later on books. To go ahead and take the extra books I have pulled . Instead I won't. Because I know something could come up and I'd know I owe the store and I don't wanna get the person in trouble.

[MacQuarrie]

You know what? I bet Shamu's sudden and frantic burst of deleting, and subsequent silence, were not brought on by any conversation with his imaginary attorney. I bet it was that his wife found out. Maybe that reporter from Channel 10 called the house.

Hi, Mrs. Olney. Sorry to put you through this, really.

[rexmundi666]

Don't worry. I found him and his wife. I dug a little today and found small but interesting things. Tomorrow I'll dig deeper and start looking at Tightlip.

Did no one warn Rick that this is what I get paid to do besides make comics?

I recall him making fun of me for working in a law firm. Big mistake."damn"-Ron Simmons.

[TomStillwell]

Part of my mind goes "Have we gone too far and really crossed into the stalker mentality?"

But, really? No. We're probably making an effort not attempted before, as a community endeavor, for the health and protection of the community at large. He is a blight on the profession, and as we've seen, been very toxic toward a number of up-and-comers. And that's not healthy for the community.

We're none of us really rampaging to run down his street and assault him. We just want justice done. All around.



Whew.... had to get that out of my system. Because we are indeed turning up the heat on him. But I thought I'd just stop are review our justification.

Yup. We good.

Not at all.

Rick refuses to provide basic information to the injured parties. Like the name of his attorney.

We've also caught Rick in a number of bold face lies. Nothing he says can be trusted.

At this point people need factual information to best arm themselves. They need the truth. Rick won't give people the truth. So I'll find it.

This is all public information. Anyone can find it. It's totally legal. You just need to know where and how to look.

I wouldn't be forced to do this is Rick was an honest guy. Of course none of this would be happening if Rick was an honest guy.

I have no qualms unearthing facts and using them in a responsible fashion.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Don't worry. I found him and his wife. I dug a little today and found small but interesting things. Tomorrow I'll dig deeper and start looking at Tightlip.

Did no one warn Rick that this is what I get paid to do besides make comics?

I recall him making fun of me for working in a law firm. Big mistake.


I have MAD hetero-love for you.

I mean, really.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

You know what? I bet Shamu's sudden and frantic burst of deleting, and subsequent silence, were not brought on by any conversation with his imaginary attorney. I bet it was that his wife found out. Maybe that reporter from Channel 10 called the house.

Hi, Mrs. Olney. Sorry to put you through this, really.

( Rexmundi will like this)


I stand by Mrs.Olney as she learns the horror. She hangs up as I stand there in silence as I look at Rick and her. I study and contemplate how I should phrase my words.











DAMN !!!! : Ron Simmons

To add: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFNnnUuSNP8

[Wil Radcliffe]

You guys are making poor Rick do this...

http://www.airdisaster.com/user-uploads/bouncinggirl.gif

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Don't worry. I found him and his wife. I dug a little today and found small but interesting things. Tomorrow I'll dig deeper and start looking at Tightlip.

Did no one warn Rick that this is what I get paid to do besides make comics?

I recall him making fun of me for working in a law firm. Big mistake.

I <3 you man...and I'm always going to be on YOUR good side.

JP

[Ogdred]

Wow. It's only been a few days since I checked in on this thread and it's grown by about 200 pages since then. Ain't no way I'm gonna catch up on everything.

This thread needs its own dedicated summary and FAQ! Probably a theme song, to boot.

[Blake Petit]

Tom, did I mention how much I like your haircut? Damn, you're looking GOOD man...

[rexmundi666]

An important thing to look at is who will Olney get to print the books he has ? Its said he has over 60 pages of material so what happens when he decides to move forward and have the books printed ?

Also its easy to really get close with people in your LCS. I know the one I shop at has always floated the idea of letting me pay later on books. To go ahead and take the extra books I have pulled . Instead I won't. Because I know something could come up and I'd know I owe the store and I don't wanna get the person in trouble.SuperECWFAN1,I think the whole Tightlip con was thought up just so Onley can sit on orginal artwork and scripts from well known people in the industry and sell them after afew years.

[Papergirl]

Does she know she has a business in her name? Has he ever filed any kind of business papers? A DBA? Not that we know of.
Dunno. I'm not the one doing the background check. There was mention, however, of her name being on some stuff earlier in the thread. And, if that IS the case, then no, I can't say she's totally innocent in all of this.

Bingo. I'll bet a dollar that's the case.
Which? That she shares his views and has no issues with what he posts? Or that she's not very internet savvy and doesn't know to go looking at what he writes?

She may be gullible enough to trust her husband to deal with his own little hobby and not bother her with it.
No way. If, as has been suggested, she controls the finances, I can't picture her NOT wanting to know how these people are being paid if SHE'S not the one writing the checks. Shelly stated it better. It IS possible, but not very probable.

Well, if she wasn't involved before, she is now. Community property and all that.
I hope, for her sake, that she IS totally innocent in all this and dumps his fat hairy ass on the curb with the rest of the household trash. However, I doubt that's very likely.

~Bev

[Karl J. Barnes]

I I believe his exact words were, "You're not crazy. Not at all. You're f'ing NUTS." :p

~Bev


Is that the technicual(sp?) term?

[Matt Doc Martin]

SuperECWFAN1,I think the whole Tightlip con was thought up just so Onley can sit on orginal artwork and scripts from well known people in the industry and sell them after afew years.

He isn't that bright, and he is far too deluded. he honestly thought he could get away with it. It is clear he has severe mental issues. Paranoia, delusions, habitual lying.

he is a sick, sick puppy.

Bad Peanut! No biscuit!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

SuperECWFAN1,I think the whole Tightlip con was thought up just so Onley can sit on orginal artwork and scripts from well known people in the industry and sell them after afew years.

He may have felt he could screw the indie guys and roll over everyone to do that . Its a shock that someone could really believe they could do all this. At some point if your even trying to launch a company you don't bite the hand that feeds you. Now if he was even remotely serious about launching a comic company , how could he logically recruit talent ?

The only way anyone would seriously work for Olney now is if he pays em up front.

[Matt Doc Martin]

The only way anyone would seriously work for Olney now is if he pays em up front.

I doubt even that would work, at this point.

[Sarah Beach]

The only way anyone would seriously work for Olney now is if he pays em up front.

AND his name appears NOWHERE on the book!!!

[rexmundi666]

( Rexmundi will like this)


I stand by Mrs.Olney as she learns the horror. She hangs up as I stand there in silence as I look at Rick and her. I study and contemplate how I should phrase my words.











DAMN !!!! : Ron Simmons

To add: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFNnnUuSNP8LOL,SuperECW that's gold!:D

[Mike Bullock]

Rick has clearly shown he can't handle women who are his intellictual equal...

99.99999% of the women I've met in my life are his intellectual superior... no wonder he's so bitter.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

AND his name appears NOWHERE on the book!!!

Well that too I suppose. ;)

[Momma Absurd]

Wonder if Moby realizes he goaded us into investigating his claims? I knew about this story for 2 years and never thought about it once.

Anyway.

Doing some research on rebelscum.com and found this (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB3&Number=1392111&Forum=f3&Words=ric%20olie&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1392111&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1392111).

Apparently Ric Olie is so popular, the figure is still being found on the shelves 9 years later

Doc 'Bargain at Half the Price' Absurd


*puts left hand on hip while wagging the *RIGHT* finger at Doc, SWEETIE, they stayed on the shelf cus after the first one was opened, it reeked so bad the rest could only be sold when an NDA was signed you know that.....* runs back off to kitchen to do her momma thangs*

Momma "get the shyte dun" Absurd

[KevinTBrown]

I do feel sorry for his wife...and his children.

He has to do jail time for this. I mean, when it is this much it has to go beyond civil, doesn't it?

Any attorney out there feel free to correct me, but his wife is going to jail if her name is on any legal document. UNLESS she is able to prove she had no idea what he was doing.....

And that's just sad.

[rexmundi666]

He isn't that bright, and he is far too deluded. he honestly thought he could get away with it. It is clear he has severe mental issues. Paranoia, delusions, habitual lying.

he is a sick, sick puppy.

Bad Peanut! No biscuit!Come to think of it his blogs and his posts here and elsewhere proves he colud never pull something like that off.

[Corrina]

*beginning to get scared of Tom*

Back when I was a reporter, we used the registered voter listings. Came in handy. PRobably there are better methods now.

[DocAbsurd]

*puts left hand on hip while wagging the *RIGHT* finger at Doc, SWEETIE, they stayed on the shelf cus after the first one was opened, it reeked so bad the rest could only be sold when an NDA was signed you know that.....* runs back off to kitchen to do her momma thangs*

Momma "get the shyte dun" Absurd

um, Hunni? I already put my bid on the ultra-rare 'Bullshyte Chip' figure.

Hope you don't mind; I wanna get it so I can review the figure. Honestly and fairly.

And without legal entanglements.




Doc 'Do I Hear One Penny?' Absurd

[KevinTBrown]

By the way, I truly feel I need to say something here, and I don't care if upsets many people.

I am getting sick and tired of all of you calling Rick Olney improper names!!! You need to stop this right now!!! For crissakes, enough is enough already!!! Sheesh! So, dammit, if you're going to calling him anything, call him by his right name from this point forward, ok???


















The defendant. :D

[mroakley]

I can trump that. I have a doctor that is more than willing to sign me into the local loony bin any time I need a "vacation"... I believe his exact words were, "You're not crazy. Not at all. You're f'ing NUTS." :p

~Bev

Heh. Apparently we've seen the same doctor somewhere along the lines.

[Aloha Joe]

Dunno. I'm not the one doing the background check. There was mention, however, of her name being on some stuff earlier in the thread. And, if that IS the case, then no, I can't say she's totally innocent in all of this.


Which? That she shares his views and has no issues with what he posts? Or that she's not very internet savvy and doesn't know to go looking at what he writes?


No way. If, as has been suggested, she controls the finances, I can't picture her NOT wanting to know how these people are being paid if SHE'S not the one writing the checks. Shelly stated it better. It IS possible, but not very probable.


I hope, for her sake, that she IS totally innocent in all this and dumps his fat hairy ass on the curb with the rest of the household trash. However, I doubt that's very likely.

~Bev

Kind of a weird use of a first post, but I just wanted to chime in on how very uncomfortable I am seeing Rick's wife brought into this assault. Many people have apparently made the mistake of falling for Rick's manipulations for far longer than they should have, and it'd be no stretch to believe that she's similarly susceptible to his hocus-pocus. At this point, there seems little benefit outside of the joy of gossip coming out of dragging Mrs. Olney into the fray. It could certainy be argued that her name being on stuff makes her legally responsible and hence a viable target of discussion/criticism/derision, but at this point, it seems a bit udgy to me.

Self-righteously yours,
Joe

[rexmundi666]

He may have felt he could screw the indie guys and roll over everyone to do that . Its a shock that someone could really believe they could do all this. At some point if your even trying to launch a company you don't bite the hand that feeds you. Now if he was even remotely serious about launching a comic company , how could he logically recruit talent ?

The only way anyone would seriously work for Olney now is if he pays em up front.Olney? pay up front? that wolud take guts which he has proven his lack of.

[mroakley]

I have a website, I'm currently retooling it (http://www.revelationproductions.info). Right now I have the blog section (which serves as an update section for the ministry I'm involved with) and a forum section. Soon I'll have a buncha more stuff posted, including artwork and a web comic that I plan on doing.

[Matt Doc Martin]

By the way, I truly feel I need to say something here, and I don't care if upsets many people.

I am getting sick and tired of all of you calling Rick Olney improper names!!! You need to stop this right now!!! For crissakes, enough is enough already!!! Sheesh! So, dammit, if you're going to calling him anything, call him by his right name from this point forward, ok???





The defendant. :D

Yahtzee!!!

Kind of a weird use of a first post, but I just wanted to chime in on how very uncomfortable I am seeing Rick's wife brought into this assault. Many people have apparently made the mistake of falling for Rick's manipulations for far longer than they should have, and it'd be no stretch to believe that she's similarly susceptible to his hocus-pocus. At this point, there seems little benefit outside of the joy of gossip coming out of dragging Mrs. Olvey into the fray. It could certainy be argued that her name being on stuff makes her legally responsible and hence a viable target of discussion/criticism/derision, but at this point, it seems a bit udgy to me.

Self-righteously yours,
Joe


Well, no one is attacking her, per se. We are speculating as best we can with the information we have available. Rick is welcome to come back and set us straight, if he can.

The fact of the matter is, there is only so much you can hide in 29+ years of marriage. Even if she is an ostrich, her head has to come out of the sand at some point.

[Corrina]

If the wife's name is on legal documents for this company, then she's part-owner, and she's legally responsible for any debts incurred or the actions of said company. LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE.

Which is pretty much the base standard for responsibility.

If anyone dragged her name into the mud, it's her husband. Not us.

[Comcman]

Well, I finally made it through this entire thread. It took 4 days, but I made it. Sadly, Mr. Olney deleted some of his posts before I got to them.

I come at this at a rather fun angle as I am both a lawyer and a Comic Book retailer.

Legally, there is no way for him to prevail against any of these people he did not pay. He has to prove damages. And, as far as I can tell, there are none that he can show. How did their coming forward stating they had not been paid harm him? He would have to show that his books usually sold X amount and because of the statements, they only sold Y. Very hard to prove and has he ever actually published a book? Yes, it cast him and his company in a bad light. But the NDA is not a shield to protect him from this kind of statement. His threats of suits for libel are equally damaged by his own comments against others. And again he would have to show actual damages. The court doesn't give you $25 for each insult. He would have to show damage to his reputation and he has more than damaged it with the language and slurs he has thrown around here. He has destroyed it. I think that his attempt to redact all of his comments everywhere is hilarious. Matt Doc Martin, I am glad you have it all saved.

The other remedy he could seek is specific performance of the contract and/or the NDA. However, this would have to be sought in a court of Equity and 2 of the Maxims of Equity are :

To get equity you must do equity; and
He who seeks equity must come with clean hands

Mr. Olney does not resemble those requirements.

And, yes Mr. Olney, I do not know all of the facts. But you have not provided any. No one has come to your defense. Your responses have been foul and abusive. Best of luck to you in court.

Also, something I wanted to scream while reading early on, all "having a lawyer on retainer" means is that he has paid upfront and the lawyer will work until the money is gone. It's not like the lawyer, if there really is one, is at his beck and call. And if there is one, he was mighty smart to get paid upfront.

As a retailer, I agree with GCOM that it will be a cold day in hell before I carry any book from TightLip, if he actually ever publishes anything. Through reading all of this I have increased my respect for Mr. Busiek, Mr. Waid, Mr! Shaw!, Mr. Hamner, and Mr. Isabella (where's Bob Ingersoll in all this? - his Law is a Ass column put the thought of a legal career in my head as a wee lad). Sorry if I missed anyone. Your books will always have rack space in my store. And as far as this "Gail Simone" character, if I was not already carrying all 12 of your monthly titles, I would be adding them. I swear it seems like every other DC book I pull out of the Diamond box has your name on it. Too bad you are only a token. Your thread here has brought this to the attention of many more than would have ever known. I had seen the issue in LiTG, but did not realize the severity until reading here.

As for all of the creators affected by Mr. Olney, please let me know when you have a book coming out. I will make a special point of supporting them. The same with "Unscrewed". You now have a standing order for 20 copies (my store is only 4 months old and that is the same as my Civil War order) and I will open my doors to anyone who wants to come and promote it, or any of your projects. Heck, I will even help pay your way out here - in cash. I will also do what I can to help the SPA and the ICC. Mr. Shires and Mr. Doc_Absurd, please let me know what I can do to help. I am new and small, but I want to help get your books into the hands of readers.

Best of luck to those of you who are going forward against him. As Mr. Waid said - Go get him!

[kingdom2000]

Ok caught up again.

Olney probably has broken some criminial laws, but breaking the law and getting someone to care enough to enforce the law are two different things.

I did a search for mightyminicon.com, its shows the same address as tightlips site. To do a WHOIS search, go to www.dnsstuff.com, go to the WHOIS box and type in the domain name. Usually you will get the name and address the site is listed under. Depending on where do the search etc might even get a contact number and email address. However, this info is not proof of much. I could sign up a website, www.olneylikestododogs.com entirely in Olney's name if I wanted to and that info would show up in a few days in the WHOIS lookup.

It sucks to involve the wife, but she was involved no matter what. If the marriage is as long as Olney claims, then their finances are probably 100% tied together so sueing Olney is sueing her anyway. Also, sadly if she signed her name to anything, the debt will also become her problem and a divorce wouldn't eliminate it.

As for Tightlips, I have my doubts the company even legally exists. The more I see about this guy, the more I think its more of a fiction. It would be like Gail suddenly saying all business dealings should go through BOP, Inc. and creating some quick letterheads in photoshop. Its a figurehead company to give Olney some credibilty.

The business doesn't exist until the appropriate paperwork and whatnot is filed to create the tax record and any needed licenses from the local and state government. I have no idea how find out if this is the case for Tightlip, but since an all business have to go through some birthing process, the owner of a local comic book store might be able to provide some input. A quick way to tell would be to see how people have been paid by Olney. For tax reasons, most checks are made out from the business entity (just check any work paycheck you get). Of course since Olney doesn't actually pay people so thats out. If the company of Tightlip legally exists, it would have to have a tax trail. I don't see Olney wanting to create additional tax trails. Long story short, I am willing to be much like Olney's "lawyer", none of "businesses" truly exist.

As for getting more info on Olney, his "businesses", including if they legally exist or not, as Veronica Mars points out (if exaggerated), a little fee to a reputable PI would probably score tons of info about the guy that may or may not be useful for any legal cases people might be pursueing.

As to that, what is the running total of known debt that Momma Upsurd was compiling and who is truly persueing legal action versus just thinking about it?

[Ronée]

Ok y'all here is the kicker and maybe a little more light into the situation.

As of the time that I started working for the defendant he told me that he was in the process of "securing his assets" to leave his wife within the next year. She works in insurance and works full time from what I gather. She was also asking him all kinds of questions a while back about TLE and he got pissy about that so I am assuming she does not have much to do with the everyday goings on.

Also, as if you do not already know that the man is sue happy... he was also telling me that he was persuing a lawsuit against his dying cousin for property he felt was taken from his father.

[Matt Doc Martin]

If the wife's name is on legal documents for this company, then she's part-owner, and she's legally responsible for any debts incurred or the actions of said company. LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE.

Which is pretty much the base standard for responsibility.

If anyone dragged her name into the mud, it's her husband. Not us.

Well said.

[Sarah Beach]

Kind of a weird use of a first post, but I just wanted to chime in on how very uncomfortable I am seeing Rick's wife brought into this assault. Many people have apparently made the mistake of falling for Rick's manipulations for far longer than they should have, and it'd be no stretch to believe that she's similarly susceptible to his hocus-pocus. At this point, there seems little benefit outside of the joy of gossip coming out of dragging Mrs. Olvey into the fray. It could certainy be argued that her name being on stuff makes her legally responsible and hence a viable target of discussion/criticism/derision, but at this point, it seems a bit udgy to me.

Self-righteously yours,
Joe

I certainly understand your concerns, Joe. It's just that this is such a bizarre and unusual situation. It would be nice to keep his wife's name out of the fray. But it now turns out to be legally right in the middle of the fray. And it's regretable, but unavoidable now. Wheels are turning, and unfortunately, the consequence of Olney's own actions are dragging her into it.

I think just about all of us here are basically holding back any judgement of [i]her[/] because we just don't know that core situation. But we can't pretend it isn't there.

I hope you understand that. It's gone beyond a social game. So yes, we should tread carefully in discussing her. But we can't avoid the topic of the nature of her involvement in the situation. It's pertinent information, since the company & money are in her name.

[CitC]

I just wanted to chime in on how very uncomfortable I am seeing Rick's wife brought into this assault. I second that. Whatever her story is, if the legal end is followed through with it should come out.

[colleen]

One small exception to the business post just above this, writers and artists are also self employed people who are, technically, also running a business. Most municipalities do not require business licenses or registration for creators.

Some do. However, I've never heard of a city getting away with this requirement due to freedom of speech issues.

Getting a DBA is easy and it doesn't cost anything so I don't know why Olney would not have filed one, but another avenue to explore is whether or not Olney's operation was properly zoned for business, if he was doing business from his home? It's a big no-no in some places. Worth exploring.

Even artists can be severely restricted should they choose to have home studios. I ran into this with my condo association. It was a serious problem for years.

c

[Sarah Beach]

Ok y'all here is the kicker and maybe a little more light into the situation.

As of the time that I started working for the defendant he told me that he was in the process of "securing his assets" to leave his wife within the next year. She works in insurance and works full time from what I gather. She was also asking him all kinds of questions a while back about TLE and he got pissy about that so I am assuming she does not have much to do with the everyday goings on.

Also, as if you do not already know that the man is sue happy... he was also telling me that he was persuing a lawsuit against his dying cousin for property he felt was taken from his father.

Huh. All the implications of "securing his assets in preparation of leaving his wife".... I can't help but think that that last trait on the sociopathic symptoms list could actually be fulfilled in his behavior, if one knew enough.

What a creep. (Him, that is, if there was any doubt.)

[sk716]

Well, I finally made it through this entire thread. It took 4 days, but I made it. Sadly, Mr. Olney deleted some of his posts before I got to them.

I come at this at a rather fun angle as I am both a lawyer and a Comic Book retailer.

Legally, there is no way for him to prevail against any of these people he did not pay. He has to prove damages. And, as far as I can tell, there are none that he can show. How did their coming forward stating they had not been paid harm him? He would have to show that his books usually sold X amount and because of the statements, they only sold Y. Very hard to prove and has he ever actually published a book? Yes, it cast him and his company in a bad light. But the NDA is not a shield to protect him from this kind of statement. His threats of suits for libel are equally damaged by his own comments against others. And again he would have to show actual damages. The court doesn't give you $25 for each insult. He would have to show damage to his reputation and he has more than damaged it with the language and slurs he has thrown around here. He has destroyed it. I think that his attempt to redact all of his comments everywhere is hilarious. Matt Doc Martin, I am glad you have it all saved.

The other remedy he could seek is specific performance of the contract and/or the NDA. However, this would have to be sought in a court of Equity and 2 of the Maxims of Equity are :

To get equity you must do equity; and
He who seeks equity must come with clean hands

Mr. Olney does not resemble those requirements.

And, yes Mr. Olney, I do not know all of the facts. But you have not provided any. No one has come to your defense. Your responses have been foul and abusive. Best of luck to you in court.

Also, something I wanted to scream while reading early on, all "having a lawyer on retainer" means is that he has paid upfront and the lawyer will work until the money is gone. It's not like the lawyer, if there really is one, is at his beck and call. And if there is one, he was mighty smart to get paid upfront.

As a retailer, I agree with GCOM that it will be a cold day in hell before I carry any book from TightLip, if he actually ever publishes anything. Through reading all of this I have increased my respect for Mr. Busiek, Mr. Waid, Mr! Shaw!, Mr. Hamner, and Mr. Isabella (where's Bob Ingersoll in all this? - his Law is a Ass column put the thought of a legal career in my head as a wee lad). Sorry if I missed anyone. Your books will always have rack space in my store. And as far as this "Gail Simone" character, if I was not already carrying all 12 of your monthly titles, I would be adding them. I swear it seems like every other DC book I pull out of the Diamond box has your name on it. Too bad you are only a token. Your thread here has brought this to the attention of many more than would have ever known. I had seen the issue in LiTG, but did not realize the severity until reading here.

As for all of the creators affected by Mr. Olney, please let me know when you have a book coming out. I will make a special point of supporting them. The same with "Unscrewed". You now have a standing order for 20 copies (my store is only 4 months old and that is the same as my Civil War order) and I will open my doors to anyone who wants to come and promote it, or any of your projects. Heck, I will even help pay your way out here - in cash. I will also do what I can to help the SPA and the ICC. Mr. Shires and Mr. Doc_Absurd, please let me know what I can do to help. I am new and small, but I want to help get your books into the hands of readers.

Best of luck to those of you who are going forward against him. As Mr. Waid said - Go get him!

Thanks for chiming in.

The deleted posts have all been saved and will soon be making a public debut.

Welcome to YABS.

[Papergirl]

Is that the technicual(sp?) term?

Yes. :P

Heh. Apparently we've seen the same doctor somewhere along the lines.

Hee! You never know... Though, it's possible they are twin brothers or something!

Kind of a weird use of a first post, but I just wanted to chime in on how very uncomfortable I am seeing Rick's wife brought into this assault. Many people have apparently made the mistake of falling for Rick's manipulations for far longer than they should have, and it'd be no stretch to believe that she's similarly susceptible to his hocus-pocus. At this point, there seems little benefit outside of the joy of gossip coming out of dragging Mrs. Olney into the fray. It could certainy be argued that her name being on stuff makes her legally responsible and hence a viable target of discussion/criticism/derision, but at this point, it seems a bit udgy to me.

Self-righteously yours,
Joe

By the same token, I am tired of seeing "Oh, poor Mrs. Olney! What a victim she is!" When, really, we have no proof that she is, indeed, a victim. All *I* am asking for is proof of that and pointing out that it IS unlikely that she was the totally clueless, brainless, codependant twit that many seem to think she is.

I am not calling her names. I am not writing untrue things about her. I am asking questions and stating my opinions. I even stated at one point that I could very well be wrong. I just don't think I am. Sorry if you have a problem with that.

As for spreading gossip, welcome to the internet, where gossip-spreading is a profession for many. Unfortunately, you picked the wrong person to accuse of it this time.

Oh, and welcome to YABS. I hope you brought your flame-proof undies. Self-righteous jerks who jump to conclusions without reading everything first don't tend to last too long here.

~Bev

[KevinTBrown]

Here:

http://www.gforce.com/products/underwear/images/frunderwear.jpg

Flame proof underwear. :D

[bert]

Oh, and welcome to YABS. I hope you brought your flame-proof undies. Self-righteous jerks who jump to conclusions without reading everything first don't tend to last too long here.

~Bev

I'll say again what I said. . oh, a hundred pages or so ago:

it's FUCKIN great to see you back and posting again, PeeG.

I missed ya, girlie!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yes. :P



Oh, and welcome to YABS. I hope you brought your flame-proof undies. Self-righteous jerks who jump to conclusions without reading everything first don't tend to last too long here.

~Bev


Whereas you just need plastic wrap on your electronics.

[Papergirl]

Whereas you just need plastic wrap on your electronics.

Be careful. I'm tired and cranky tonight. :p

~Bev

[Perry Holley]

Also, as if you do not already know that the man is sue happy... he was also telling me that he was persuing a lawsuit against his dying cousin for property he felt was taken from his father.Just another sign that the man is an irredeemable asshole. Fortunately, it seems his actions are finally catching up to him...

You can run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Sooner or later God'll cut you down
Sooner or later God'll cut you down

Go tell that long tongue liar
Go and tell that midnight rider
Tell the rambler,
The gambler,
The back-biter
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down

Well you may throw your rock and hide your hand
Workin' in the dark against your fellow man
But as sure as God made black and white
What's done in the dark will be brought to the light

[CitC]

By the same token, I am tired of seeing "Oh, poor Mrs. Olney! What a victim she is!" When, really, we have no proof that she is, indeed, a victim. All *I* am asking for is proof of that and pointing out that it IS unlikely that she was the totally clueless, brainless, codependant twit that many seem to think she is.Would you call someone a "totally clueless, brainless, codependant twit" if they were cheated on by their spouse? Sometime I suppose, but we have no proof and she is being judged without any proof.


And I have read nearly every post.

EDIT: I just realized how odd my wording is, what I mean is that it is very possible for someone to fool their significant other for a significant ammount of time. I know from the Dr.Phil episode my mother's life became 2yrs ago. She is being judged with no proof.

[Papergirl]

I'll say again what I said. . oh, a hundred pages or so ago:

it's FUCKIN great to see you back and posting again, PeeG.

I missed ya, girlie!

*huggleattacks bert!!!* <3 you too!

I must have missed the first post! :(

I am glad to be back. It's good to finally have the time to catch up and goof off with my friends again!

~Bev

[AIPman1]

I will also do what I can to help the SPA and the ICC. Mr. Shires and Mr. Doc_Absurd, please let me know what I can do to help. I am new and small, but I want to help get your books into the hands of readers.


I'll e-mail you private, but wanted to thank you in public for the offer!

[Papergirl]

Would you call someone a "totally clueless, brainless, codependant twit" if they were cheated on by their spouse? Sometime I suppose, but we have no proof and she is being judged without any proof.


And I have read nearly every post.

No, she is NOT being judged. Where on EARTH are you getting that from? I asked QUESTIONS that SHOULD be asked and SHOULD be looked into. I stated my OPINION, and even stated that, YES, I could be WRONG. Nowhere did I call her names or say that she is DEFINITELY involved. I stated that I DOUBTED she was totally innocent. I even stated that, for her sake, I hoped she IS innocent. And I'm NOT the only one to have those questions and thoughts.

Now, what part of this is so difficult to understand?

Now, please, come down off the high horse and stop reading more into what I wrote than is actually there. kkthx4it.

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

Odd...looks like peanut hasn't been on his MySpace today.

The fit must have really hit the shan.

[DocAbsurd]

As for all of the creators affected by Mr. Olney, please let me know when you have a book coming out. I will make a special point of supporting them. The same with "Unscrewed". You now have a standing order for 20 copies (my store is only 4 months old and that is the same as my Civil War order) and I will open my doors to anyone who wants to come and promote it, or any of your projects. Heck, I will even help pay your way out here - in cash. I will also do what I can to help the SPA and the ICC. Mr. Shires and Mr. Doc_Absurd, please let me know what I can do to help. I am new and small, but I want to help get your books into the hands of readers.

Well . . . poop.

Thank you, Comc! Seriously, thank you. Like Ian said, I too will get hold of you privately. I have no clue what to even ask, but I want to thank you for your retailer support.

Damn. Why do I feel like a big round of 'Kumbaya' right now?




Doc 'Manly Hugs' Absurd

[Wil Radcliffe]

All I can tell you is, Mrs. Olney never once promised me any money whatsoever.

Rick Olney did.

[khuxford]

It was. They moved, and are more on the Golden Apple scale now. Finally got to the new location a couple months back (years after they moved), and was impressed.

Good for them. They were a much nicer spot to me at the time. But that might have been a function of them being smaller, too. The guy behind the counter was more attentive, the store was better lit, and it had a friendlier aura about it (in the commonly used sense, not a real metaphysical sense).

Golden Apple seemed more dimly lit, less inviting, and had a goth ambiance to it that put me off a bit.

Mind you, this was all about 10 years ago...so things could have drastically changed.

[Papergirl]

All I can tell you is, Mrs. Olney never once promised me any money whatsoever.

Rick Olney did.

While this is very true, IF, as has been stated, she controls the money, she is still legally responsible. And, at that point, it IS worth finding out just how involved she is and/or was. No one here is arguing that Rick Olney isn't a Class A Asshat. But, it doesn't mean we can't question things and other people's involvement, no matter WHO they are.

~Bev

[Mike Bullock]

All I can tell you is, Mrs. Olney never once promised me any money whatsoever.

Rick Olney did.


Exactly. I didn't even know there was a Mrs. Olney until this thread. The issues at hand are between those of us who have been shafted and the guy doing the shafting. Not his wife, his daughter or his make-believe attorney.

I think speculating as to whether or not she had anything to do with it, at this point, simply takes focus away from the fact finding that's also going on.

Besides, I never saw a Mrs. Olie action figure...

[KevinTBrown]

I think UNTIL WE ALL KNOW FOR SURE, we all just concentrate on the defendant, Rick Olney. Period. If it comes to pass that anyone else is involved, regardless of who it is, then you go after them.

For now it's Rick Olney, the defendant, front and center. Where he usually likes to be, but not this time. ;)

[Wil Radcliffe]

And please, let's not let a minor disagreement fragment us. This thread has done a lot of good, and a lot of useful information has been uncovered.

Just because The Most Hated Man in Comics isn't here to take the heat right now doesn't mean we have to turn on each other. :)

[Comcman]

Well . . . poop.

Thank you, Comc! Seriously, thank you. Like Ian said, I too will get hold of you privately. I have no clue what to even ask, but I want to thank you for your retailer support.

Damn. Why do I feel like a big round of 'Kumbaya' right now?




Doc 'Manly Hugs' Absurd

Well, I added a signature because "Comc" sounds just plain silly.

I would much rather push a book by someone who puts their heart and soul into it than some of the stuff put out by the big boys. Plus those Simone, Waid, Busiek books sell themselves.

[Blake Petit]

I would much rather push a book by someone who puts their heart and soul into it than some of the crap put out by the big boys.

Well, with the folks in this thread, that's pretty much a guarantee.

[Papergirl]

You're all absolutely right. How dare I bring more questions here. How dare I suggest that *maybe* there is more to it that *might* be worth looking into.

I'll just go back to the nonsense threads and keep my unwanted opinions to myself now. Have fun, kids.


~Bev

[DarrenCawsey]

One small exception to the business post just above this, writers and artists are also self employed people who are, technically, also running a business. Most municipalities do not require business licenses or registration for creators.

Some do. However, I've never heard of a city getting away with this requirement due to freedom of speech issues.

c

One question for anyone who may know -

Say Moby ends up filing for bankruptcy (only a matter of time as far as I can see), here in NZ that would bar him from being a Director of a company for the next 5-7 years, as well as restricting his ability to run a business which isn't actually registered as a company (more an owner-operated venture) (which TLE seems to be given earlier posts)... would this affect his ability to turn up a year down the track organizing some other con which doesn't eventuate, or some other comic which never sees print?

Now I'm only asking because I think this would be a wonderful thing to happen. Think of two years down the track where for example, some poor budding artist wants to showcase their work and decides to take Moby at face value... and then gets fisted.

Can anyone tell me what the law in NY (or the US in general) says about this? If bankrupted will he be able to pop up with some new Co. in a year and repeat the process? And yeah I realise that no one in the industry now will go within a hundred yards of a project even remotely connected to Olney, but I'm thinking of down the track a bit when this thread is long finished and maybe some newcomers won't know who they are dealing with.


I have to deal with people like Mr Olney (and situations like this) on an almost a daily basis through my work, and even with the relatively thick skin I have subsequently built up, this guy takes the cake. I have NEVER seen anything like it, I mean the personal attacks, the blatant lying, the Bizarro world logic that defies belief... it's just, well I have no words.

The idea of him popping up in a year or two and shafting some unsuspecting comics amateur is not a pleasant one.

[Matt Doc Martin]

And please, let's not let a minor disagreement fragment us. This thread has done a lot of good, and a lot of useful information has been uncovered.

Just because The Most Hated Man in Comics isn't here to take the heat right now doesn't mean we have to turn on each other. :)

Heed these words...or else:

http://www.inflatabletrampolines.com/ProductImages/thunderdome.jpg

[Aloha Joe]

By the same token, I am tired of seeing "Oh, poor Mrs. Olney! What a victim she is!" When, really, we have no proof that she is, indeed, a victim. All *I* am asking for is proof of that and pointing out that it IS unlikely that she was the totally clueless, brainless, codependant twit that many seem to think she is.

The burden of proof is not on Mrs. Olney to prove her innocence--it's on accusers to prove her guilt.

I am not calling her names. I am not writing untrue things about her. I am asking questions and stating my opinions. I even stated at one point that I could very well be wrong. I just don't think I am. Sorry if you have a problem with that.

I was not trying to start an argument or call you out. I was stating my opinion that allegations are best left unlevelled until more evidence is in.

As for spreading gossip, welcome to the internet, where gossip-spreading is a profession for many. Unfortunately, you picked the wrong person to accuse of it this time.

I didn't accuse you of anything. If you want to continue discussing Mrs. Olney's complicity, willing or otherwise, I won't stop you. I'm not looking for an argument. I just chimed in with my opinion with what politeness I knew. My apologies if it wasn't polite enough.

Oh, and welcome to YABS. I hope you brought your flame-proof undies. Self-righteous jerks who jump to conclusions without reading everything first don't tend to last too long here.

Again, I apologize if I came a across as a jerk in my post. I wasn't vilifying you or attacking you, or calling you names, and I certainly tried to be civil. I'm not sure exactly to what conclusions you think I jumped, but I did just finish reading hundreds of pages of this discussion, as well as many extra-CBR references to the Olney fracas.

Best,
Joe

[THEDOC]

Here's a link to a thread that I started on the ODDBALL COMICS site's discussion board; its title is "Olney The Lonely: Tightlip's 'Spooky' Scam!"

http://www.oddballcomics.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=676

Please feel free to add your own comments there, gang.

Aloha,

Scott!

I joined just waiting for my password.:confused:

[TomStillwell]

Well, I added a signature because "Comc" sounds just plain silly.

I would much rather push a book by someone who puts their heart and soul into it than some of the crap put out by the big boys. Plus those Simone, Waid, Busiek books sell themselves.

Amen!!! Preach it brudder!!!

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://static.flickr.com/56/193403463_fe2823eab3_m.jpg

[KevinTBrown]

You're all absolutely right. How dare I bring more questions here. How dare I suggest that *maybe* there is more to it that *might* be worth looking into.

I'll just go back to the nonsense threads and keep my unwanted opinions to myself now. Have fun, kids.


~Bev

Bev, that's not. Tom Stillwell has already found what MIGHT be that evidence of her involvement. Gail has requested we not bring his family into it (I forget exactly how she worded it). When it's 100% certain that she's involved, we can go at it. Until then, better safe than sorry. :) It builds a stronger case that way....

[THEDOC]

And response sent.
















Gee, aren't you just dying to know what that email said, Olney...? :D
I would like to see that to Kevin!

[EdContradictory]

I talked to him. I stand by my impression that he's a decent guy who tried hard to make the con a success.

Honestly, I think Dennis is no part of the bad stuff.

Gail

I didn't really think he was. I was just wondering what he was thinking about what's been going on.

[Papergirl]

http://static.flickr.com/56/193403463_fe2823eab3_m.jpg

....

Damn you, Matt...

How the hell am I supposed to keep my justified anger and pissiness going when you post pictures of cute puppies?!

:p

~Bev
Who is a sucker for cute, fuzzy baby animals.

[Comcman]

Amen!!! Preach it brudder!!!

Hey Tom, or should I say Mr. "My book is in the January Previews". benjygrimm just sent me some of his books and they look great. I can't wait to see yours.

Which firm do you work at? I clerked at a firm on LaSalle when I was in law school.

[GCom]

Colin McMahon
New Dimension Comics
McMurray, PA

Heeyyy... we're relatively near to each other. I'm in W.V. Ahmina have to take a road trip. :)

I'll take a chance and say that I do believe that there is some retailer support of this issue (but not Mr. Olney's) at this point. Considering how most retailers feel these days about 'questionable' goings-on behind the scenes that eventually filter down to our stores, this is not good for anything Mr. Olney will ever produce... retailer memories are very long, especially if we've any chioces we can make in our wholesale purchases.

Screwest thou not with the Comic Retailer, lest ye be foolish.



With Tolerance For The Guys On The Front Lines...

GCom

[Blake Petit]

....

Damn you, Matt...

How the hell am I supposed to keep my justified anger and pissiness going when you post pictures of cute puppies?!

:p

~Bev
Who is a sucker for cute, fuzzy baby animals.

Then for your own good, stay out of that baby panda thread. :D

[Matt Doc Martin]

....

Damn you, Matt...

How the hell am I supposed to keep my justified anger and pissiness going when you post pictures of cute puppies?!

:p

~Bev
Who is a sucker for cute, fuzzy baby animals.

I did mention before that I know how to fight dirty, right?

[Jared H.]

Probably a theme song, to boot.

Forgive me, but I tried.

Not all that much, but I tried.


With apologies to "System of a Down"(oh, who am I kidding? I never liked them anyway)...


Here's an NDA
Now sign
Or Olney won't pay you a dime

Such a NDA
Is a sham
Nonpayment is part of his scam

Rick Olney won't pay you a dime
Rick Olney won't pay you a dime

Such an NDA
Shouldn’t exist
Olney puts you on his lawsuit list

Such an NDA
And it’s mine
Rick Olney won't pay me a dime

And if you sue,
I wanna go with you
And if he lies,
I'll also be lied to
Just don't sign that NDA

Rick Olney won't pay you a dime
Rick Olney won't pay you a dime
Rick Olney won't pay you a dime

And he's lying,
His day in court will ruin his life.

[rexmundi666]

cute puppy.:)

[Papergirl]

Then for your own good, stay out of that baby panda thread. :D

*twitches and tries to resist the urge to go searching for the baby pandas...*

I did mention before that I know how to fight dirty, right?

*starts plotting her revenge*

So do I. :p

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://www.freewebs.com/nolimitzbase/killer_dog-medium.jpg

[KevinTBrown]

*twitches and tries to resist the urge to go searching for the baby pandas...*



*starts plotting her revenge*

So do I. :p

~Bev


http://www.k12.hi.us/~csegawa/karenpanda/cute%20panda.jpeg

[bert]

http://www.freewebs.com/nolimitzbase/killer_dog-medium.jpg

oh barf. .

that's worse than a Krispy Kreme.



gimme a big, ol, dumb, dawg. . . . not a little yappy one.

[rexmundi666]

http://www.freewebs.com/nolimitzbase/killer_dog-medium.jpgwhoa,so he's the destroyer!:eek:

[bert]

I think we're all missing the obvious.

the man is obviously a nut-job. . . a Psycho, one could say.

does Mrs. Olney really exist, Norman?

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/squirrell.gif

[KevinTBrown]

oh barf. .

that's worse than a Krispy Kreme.



gimme a big, ol, dumb, dawg. . . . not a little yappy one.

Fluffy says, "You don't like widdle, cute kitties?"

http://home.austin.rr.com/arcanelegends/cute_kitty.jpg

[Papergirl]

Hey, Matt... Have a basketful of cute.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Papergirl2hc/photos/Kitties/100_0793.jpg

:p

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

Ok..can we go back to bagging on peanut now?

[THEDOC]

So Rick whined to CafePress about the articles. So, if you want one, Pm me. I have a friend with an account and I will make sure you get one.

I will still donate any proceeds to the fund along with $1 per item out of my pocket.

I repeat, for Rick's benefit:

There is NOTHING wrong with saying "Rick Olney never paid me". You never paid me. You never paid Tim. You never paid Chuck. And so many others.

here, in America, we have free speech.

Which means I can post this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/various_032.jpg

And I can tell you to fuck off, asswipe.

And I will be getting me a shirt made.

Oh, and there are OTHER places to get shirts and such made as well.
Doc I can give you some space on my site in my Products and Services Section..free of charge. No NDA required.

[rexmundi666]

Fluffy says, "You don't like widdle, cute kitties?"

http://home.austin.rr.com/arcanelegends/cute_kitty.jpgAww,damnit Brown you found my weakness!

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

I think we're all missing the obvious.

the man is obviously a nut-job. . . a Psycho, one could say.

does Mrs. Olney really exist, Norman?

That's a very scary thought. It'd almost fit somehow...but hey, he couldn't be that twisted could he?

JP

[Papergirl]

Ok..can we go back to bagging on peanut now?

Sure. We all know this is your way of admitting defeat. ;)

<rerail of thread>

Ohhhhhhh, Peanuuuuuuut... Bet you thought we forgot about you amidst all the cute puppies and kitties. Don't worry, sweetpea, we didn't.

~Bev

[THEDOC]

Hey, I'll admit it -- I miss CrossGen a lot. Imploding business practices aside, they made some damn good comics. (Ruse was, for a time, my hands-down favorite comic book on the stands.)

Well I worked at Comico in Chicago in the mid 90's and it was about what I am reading here. The guy who ran it was a precursor to Olney.

[TomStillwell]

Hey Tom, or should I say Mr. "My book is in the January Previews". benjygrimm just sent me some of his books and they look great. I can't wait to see yours.

Which firm do you work at? I clerked at a firm on LaSalle when I was in law school.

Action Figure is a fun book. He did a great job on it.

I work for Wildman Harrold over on Wacker across from the Mart. LaSalle...could it be Baker & MacKenzie? That's right around the corner from us. Or Lord Bissell farther down on the street?

Enjoy the books. I'm looking at the completed pages for #3 as we speak.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Doc I can give you some space on my site in my Products and Services Section..free of charge. No NDA required.

Only if you can create the shirts there. Otherwise, I will just wing it with a few sites so Rick is none the wiser.

Oh, I so hope I get to see him at MegaCon!

BTW...No one knows Beth Wediera? (sp?)

[Blake Petit]

Good grief -- puppies AND kittens? If anyone starts posting pictures of penguins, my girlfriend is gonna have a meltdown. :D

[TomStillwell]

That's a very scary thought. It'd almost fit somehow...but hey, he couldn't be that twisted could he?

JP

She exists.

[Papergirl]

Good grief -- puppies AND kittens? If anyone starts posting pictures of penguins, my girlfriend is gonna have a meltdown. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Papergirl2hc/baby_1.jpg

~Bev

[TomStillwell]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/Zapow21/cute.jpg

[Blake Petit]

Okay, I'm hiding the thread from her! :D

[TCJohnson]

Good grief -- puppies AND kittens? If anyone starts posting pictures of penguins, my girlfriend is gonna have a meltdown. :D

If I can't have a girlfriend, NOBODY WILL!!!!

http://www.emperor-penguin.com/emperor-chick.jpg

[mroakley]

Gah Penguins! SATAN SPAWN!

*runs away screaming like a little girl*

[KevinTBrown]

Good grief -- puppies AND kittens? If anyone starts posting pictures of penguins, my girlfriend is gonna have a meltdown. :D

How Outland-ish of a statement to make......


http://www.hmk.bpsd.mb.ca/anderson/Images/PENGUIN.GIF



:p

[Papergirl]

Hey now, I TRIED to rerail the thread.

:p

~Bev

[Blake Petit]

Damn loooooons!

[THEDOC]

I talked to him. I stand by my impression that he's a decent guy who tried hard to make the con a success.

Honestly, I think Dennis is no part of the bad stuff.

Gail

I agree, if anything Dennis is very loyal and probably hoping "Rick" might see the error of his ways. When I was on MMC, some of the posts Dennis replied to seemed forced.

[KevinTBrown]

Damn loooooons!

http://www.shootthelight.com/workshops/i/LOONS%20COMP.jpg

[TCJohnson]

Ok, fine, back to the subject at hand...the Lemming.

http://www.xeye.org/1995-2000/Pictures/Lemmings/Real-Lemming-photo.jpg

[Kurt Busiek]

Did he call himself a liberal? I thought he was a "checklist conservative" (meaning he signs off on whatever Fox News tells him to without ever thinking a moment about it).

Heck, in one of his rants, he was blaming the "newly-elected liberal Congress" for pushing a surge in troops in Iraq, which struck me as a whopper of cognitive dissonance.

kdb

[THEDOC]

"damn"-Ron Simmons.

Hah..And if you're not down with that "Rick" we got two words for ya.....

[Papergirl]

Damn loooooons!

What did these cute little fellas have to do with anything?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Papergirl2hc/loon2.jpg

~Bev

[KevinTBrown]

Anyone take bets that this is how the trial begins...?

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mba/lowres/mban838l.jpg

[Kurt Busiek]

Yep. The ol' homosexuality is the gateway drug to humping monkeys dodge.

Yeah. Everyone knows that watching "The OC" is the gateway drug to humping monkeys.

kdb

[Chris N]

I got the first appearance of this super-villain in the mail today.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o1/CocaC0la99/Sub-mariner23.jpg

Guess who it reminds me of. Someone else evil.

[Papergirl]

Look! I finally found a picture of Rick!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Papergirl2hc/Misc/cla237d.gif

~Bev

[Blake Petit]

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/2528/damnbearssz6.jpg

(Erin wanted to contribute.)

[KevinTBrown]

The defendant requests that we all stop making fun of him.....

http://ozerik.homeip.net/images/crying_baby.jpg






I think not. :D

[Gail Simone]

Well, I finally made it through this entire thread. It took 4 days, but I made it. Sadly, Mr. Olney deleted some of his posts before I got to them.

I come at this at a rather fun angle as I am both a lawyer and a Comic Book retailer.

Legally, there is no way for him to prevail against any of these people he did not pay. He has to prove damages. And, as far as I can tell, there are none that he can show. How did their coming forward stating they had not been paid harm him? He would have to show that his books usually sold X amount and because of the statements, they only sold Y. Very hard to prove and has he ever actually published a book? Yes, it cast him and his company in a bad light. But the NDA is not a shield to protect him from this kind of statement. His threats of suits for libel are equally damaged by his own comments against others. And again he would have to show actual damages. The court doesn't give you $25 for each insult. He would have to show damage to his reputation and he has more than damaged it with the language and slurs he has thrown around here. He has destroyed it. I think that his attempt to redact all of his comments everywhere is hilarious. Matt Doc Martin, I am glad you have it all saved.

The other remedy he could seek is specific performance of the contract and/or the NDA. However, this would have to be sought in a court of Equity and 2 of the Maxims of Equity are :

To get equity you must do equity; and
He who seeks equity must come with clean hands

Mr. Olney does not resemble those requirements.

And, yes Mr. Olney, I do not know all of the facts. But you have not provided any. No one has come to your defense. Your responses have been foul and abusive. Best of luck to you in court.

Also, something I wanted to scream while reading early on, all "having a lawyer on retainer" means is that he has paid upfront and the lawyer will work until the money is gone. It's not like the lawyer, if there really is one, is at his beck and call. And if there is one, he was mighty smart to get paid upfront.

As a retailer, I agree with GCOM that it will be a cold day in hell before I carry any book from TightLip, if he actually ever publishes anything. Through reading all of this I have increased my respect for Mr. Busiek, Mr. Waid, Mr! Shaw!, Mr. Hamner, and Mr. Isabella (where's Bob Ingersoll in all this? - his Law is a Ass column put the thought of a legal career in my head as a wee lad). Sorry if I missed anyone. Your books will always have rack space in my store. And as far as this "Gail Simone" character, if I was not already carrying all 12 of your monthly titles, I would be adding them. I swear it seems like every other DC book I pull out of the Diamond box has your name on it. Too bad you are only a token. Your thread here has brought this to the attention of many more than would have ever known. I had seen the issue in LiTG, but did not realize the severity until reading here.

As for all of the creators affected by Mr. Olney, please let me know when you have a book coming out. I will make a special point of supporting them. The same with "Unscrewed". You now have a standing order for 20 copies (my store is only 4 months old and that is the same as my Civil War order) and I will open my doors to anyone who wants to come and promote it, or any of your projects. Heck, I will even help pay your way out here - in cash. I will also do what I can to help the SPA and the ICC. Mr. Shires and Mr. Doc_Absurd, please let me know what I can do to help. I am new and small, but I want to help get your books into the hands of readers.

Best of luck to those of you who are going forward against him. As Mr. Waid said - Go get him!



Um, wow.

Can I enrobe you in gold?

GREAT post. WELCOME, and I hope you hang around...we love retailers here and particularly retailers who are lawyers who have such outstanding bs detectors!

:)

Seriously, hope to see your store someday!

Gail

[Dan Duerr]

Yikes, Rick's abilities to confuse fantasy and reality apparently extend beyond his business contacts. Makes me wonder if he actually watches the news, or if he just writes his own script with minor references to the occasional headline.

Getting back to the penguins: I've heard that they're actually very territorial. Heard a story about a guy breaking into a zoo and getting bitten on "This American Life" a couple years ago. He ranted for 3-4 minutes about how vicious the little buggers are...

[Gail Simone]

Ok y'all here is the kicker and maybe a little more light into the situation.

As of the time that I started working for the defendant he told me that he was in the process of "securing his assets" to leave his wife within the next year. She works in insurance and works full time from what I gather. She was also asking him all kinds of questions a while back about TLE and he got pissy about that so I am assuming she does not have much to do with the everyday goings on.

Also, as if you do not already know that the man is sue happy... he was also telling me that he was persuing a lawsuit against his dying cousin for property he felt was taken from his father.


ARGHHHHHH!

Goddamn it, this guy is just...ARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH!


Gail

[Gail Simone]

Yes. :P



Hee! You never know... Though, it's possible they are twin brothers or something!



By the same token, I am tired of seeing "Oh, poor Mrs. Olney! What a victim she is!" When, really, we have no proof that she is, indeed, a victim. All *I* am asking for is proof of that and pointing out that it IS unlikely that she was the totally clueless, brainless, codependant twit that many seem to think she is.

I am not calling her names. I am not writing untrue things about her. I am asking questions and stating my opinions. I even stated at one point that I could very well be wrong. I just don't think I am. Sorry if you have a problem with that.

As for spreading gossip, welcome to the internet, where gossip-spreading is a profession for many. Unfortunately, you picked the wrong person to accuse of it this time.

Oh, and welcome to YABS. I hope you brought your flame-proof undies. Self-righteous jerks who jump to conclusions without reading everything first don't tend to last too long here.

~Bev



Bev, I think he raised a perfectly valid point, and one a lot of us are struggling with.

Please don't eat the guests.

;)

Gail

[Papergirl]

Please don't eat the guests.

;)

Gail

But... but... They go so well with a nice Chardonnay! :(


No worries. It's over and done with. I got put in my place and won't do it again.

~Bev

[TCJohnson]

Also, as if you do not already know that the man is sue happy... he was also telling me that he was persuing a lawsuit against his dying cousin for property he felt was taken from his father.


Ths confuses me because it would imply he actually has a lawyer and is actually going through with one of his threats.

[Gail Simone]

But... but... They go so well with a nice Chardonnay! :(


No worries. It's over and done with. I got put in my place and won't do it again.

~Bev

I am SO going to send you some lovely ninjas.

No one's putting you in a place. We just think you're scary. :)

Gail

[Kurt Busiek]

Ths confuses me because it would imply he actually has a lawyer and is actually going through with one of his threats.

No, it implies only that he would claim to be doing so.

kdb

[TCJohnson]

I am SO going to send you some lovely ninjas.

No one's putting you in a place. We just think you're scary. :)

Gail

actually, it was the puppy that put her in her place. We may be scared of her, but she is scared of the puppy!

[Papergirl]

I am SO going to send you some lovely ninjas.

Yay! I could use the keelhauling practice!

No one's putting you in a place. We just think you're scary. :)

Gail

Pfft. I'm about as scary as the kitty in the basket I posted. Though, I can get quite rowdy when I percieve someone to be telling me to shut up.

Scary is Matt. He posted the puppy, thereby luring me back here. Blame him. :p

~Bev

[Papergirl]

actually, it was the puppy that put her in her place. We may be scared of her, but she is scared of the puppy!

Nah. The puppy lured me back. Blame Matt for that.

~Bev

[rexmundi666]

I found something that in my opinion sums this entire situation up rather well:


"He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight"-Sun Tzu


Jackass,thought he colud not only rip the lot of you off but also that he colud fight a battle on several fronts which finally caught up with him.So,now he's in panic mode deleting any and every thing in an pitiful atempt too minimize the damage he has done to himself and his "companies".

[LomiMonet]

I am SO going to send you some lovely ninjas.

No one's putting you in a place. We just think you're scary. :)

Gail


Not to be a stickler or anything but the plural of "ninja" is "ninja".

..sorry...OH LIKE NONE OF YOU HAVE ECCENTRIC PET PEEVES!

:)

btw forgive me, writin' is not my native mode of discourse.

[rexmundi666]

Not to be a stickler or anything but the plural of "ninja" is "ninja".

..sorry...OH LIKE NONE OF YOU HAVE ECCENTRIC PET PEEVES!

:)Welcome fellow texan! *waves*:)

[Val]

No, it implies only that he would claim to be doing so.


My thoughts exactly.

[Papergirl]

I actually sent this in a PM to Aloha Joe, but I'd like to make it public:

Just wanted to apologize to you, personally, for jumping all over you. I completely misunderstood your post and took it as a personal attack and felt like I needed to defend *myself* in a thread about *Olney*, of all things. That is no excuse for my snotty behavior.

Please know that we DO welcome all newcomers here, and I am not representative of the whole. There's a whole lot of good people here who accomplish a lot of good things.

----------------

I'd also like to add, that this goes for anyone I jumped all over tonight. I apologize for it and will, in the future, try keep my temper in check.

~Bev

[rexmundi666]

I actually sent this in a PM to Aloha Joe, but I'd like to make it public:

Just wanted to apologize to you, personally, for jumping all over you. I completely misunderstood your post and took it as a personal attack and felt like I needed to defend *myself* in a thread about *Olney*, of all things. That is no excuse for my snotty behavior.

Please know that we DO welcome all newcomers here, and I am not representative of the whole. There's a whole lot of good people here who accomplish a lot of good things.

----------------

I'd also like to add, that this goes for anyone I jumped all over tonight. I apologize for it and will, in the future, try keep my temper in check.

~Bevnice letter,very classy much better then what some other mods on other sites wolud do.:cool:

[rummblestrips]

I'm just off to bed

Thought I would post a more appropriate pic of a kitty, considering this thread

This is Crash

http://www.rummblestrips.com/otherebay/giantevilcrash.jpg

[Larry Dixon]

Be careful. I'm tired and cranky tonight. :p

~Bev

" ...tonight?"


G,D,R... welcome back Papergirl. You have been missed. Safeties off, and go.

[Papergirl]

" ...tonight?"


G,D,R... welcome back Papergirl. You have been missed. Safeties off, and go.

Hee! Thanks, Larry! I've missed you all, too. Temper tantrums aside. ;)

Sadly, I have to keep the safeties on from now on. Gail won't let me eat the newcomers anymore! :(

~Bev

[JTPencils]

To be honest, I was kinda curious about the whole "Mrs Olney" thing m'self. I mean, the guy's lied about so much, who's to say she's not a creation of his twisted mind as well? Much like his lawyer, his company, his intent to pay...

She may be the "Vera" (from Cheers fame) of TightLip! With that in mind, I'll feel bad for her if she's involved due to relationship... but I'd have to see her first.

[neko onna]

Damn you guys work fast..I finally caught up...after only being gone for like three hours...It was funny during my reading I opened page 372..and my speaker started making fart noises..I thought Rick had posted..so i scrolled down really fast...only to find a Vongo add at the bottom of the page..with a guy making zerbers the screen.

So..here is my contribution to the animal pics...

http://www.airbrushcat.com/pics2/drinkcat.jpg

[NatGertler]

Golden Apple seemed more dimly lit, less inviting, and had a goth ambiance to it that put me off a bit.

Mind you, this was all about 10 years ago...so things could have drastically changed.As someone else noted (and I had forgotten when I posted earlier), Golden Apple has relocated I've not yet seen the new location.

Edited to add: http://www.gertler.com/bgg/15Mar05/thumbnails/IM001134.jpg

[Larry Dixon]

Colin --- Comcman --- my new Man of the Hour here at YABS.

Terrific posts and the "Gail the token" deadpan made me snicker out loud.

Great insights and comments mate.

Welcome to the big ol' lovin' YABS.

[Koben Kelly]

Hey, folks.

Just wanted to add my bits.

1. Someone very near and dear to me was to write a series for TLP. He jumped out of the sinking ship just before WWC. Luckily, no contracts had been signed, no scripts had been handed over, and the property is his to do with as he pleases currently.

2. In reflecting on my MySpace comments, Mr. Olney had sent me an outre "Thanks for the add!" comment featuring what appears to be a super-team with the title of Freedom 3. Of course, I deleted it, but was there actually anyone connected with this series? Or was it simply the promise of a book when the factual reality was a mere splash page?

3. Without going back through hundreds of pages, can someone give me a briefing on the t-shirts?

4. In regards to the killer whale, himself, can anyone say... RADIOACTIVE?

I realize that some, much, or even all of this may have been already covered. Please forgive any ignorance on my part... I got to the party (or is it a wake?) a tad late.

Keep spreading the sequential love!

Zivio
---Koben Kelly:)

[Sarah Beach]

As someone else noted (and I had forgotten when I posted earlier), Golden Apple has relocated I've not yet seen the new location.

They moved less than a mile eastward, now almost on the corner of Melrose & LaBrea. AND, most importantly, parking lot! (shared with other businesses, but still..!) The new space for GA is configured differently, but it's open, accessible, well lit, and arranged pretty well. Ryan & Sharon seemed pretty pleased with it, when they had their first day of operation on Nov. 1.

Anyway......

Baby animal pictures... very cute! Made me smile a lot. But then it's been my birthday, so I was ready to be amused.

As for the peanut... don't have much sympathy for the consequences of his actions returning to him.

I do have sympathy for his victims. For those he wheedled into doing jobs, for a promise of a paycheck. For those who in spite of themselves, let his venom into their systems, so that they became isolated and left to fester in frustration. I hope that those out there who have not come forward do understand that it is very, very unlikely that anyone is going to blame them for anything. Olney was convincing enough to have done this for quite a while. The blame's all on him.

[singoalla]

He was never "in country". The closest he MAY have gotten was Okinawa. We weren't at war with the Japanese then.

Like "Ric Olie", like "creating FCBD", like "Orca the character was named after me", like "I am a wiccan", like "I sent the check 4 times...the post office lost it", like "my car didn't smell", like "my cons are a success", like "I am in the comics industry", like "I know Stan Lee", like ....well, fuck..I could go on and on.

How can you tell he's lying? He says or types something.

See, I'm not even old enough to have lived through the end of it, but to me, just 4 months in Vietnam and sounding so flippant (because it does sound rather flippant to me) about his time there - it rings false. Especially considering the survival rate, and the kind of hell mmany/most describe it as.
So how anyone gets to go to a place like Vietnam, and only stay for 4 months? Unless he was injured and sent home immediately...

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

By the by, I should have posted this earlier but yesterday was Scribblers birthday. But late is better than never and it is never too late to give shout outs for birthdays.

[singoalla]

He says he served 'in country'.

Note he doesn't say which country he served in.



Doc 'Semantics' Absurd


Ooh you are a clever one. :)

[AaronJ]

OK, it took all of today, and part of yesterday, but I am finally caught up (for now).

I just want to get minor comments on The Defendant out of the way first. I don't have much (anything) to add. He's repulsive. He's disgusting. He is a sexist, homophobic, blowhard who isn't worth the noxious gases he emits. I've had a few meltdowns in more than a decade-and-a-half on Usenet and the WWW, but holy cow! I mean, just watching The Defendant completely self-immolate was ... I don't know. I've never seen anything like it. And I am fairly certain that I never want to see anything like it again.

What a complete jerkwad. Sociopath is exactly what he is. I am so damned glad he is going down.

Which brings me to more positive aspects of this thread: everyone BUT The Defendant. Wow. If anyone is ever bummed out about the state of humanity, I honestly think this thread is just the thing to lift the spirits. Faced with the most disgusting, repugnant, vile sack of crap imaginable, a community came together and fought for the Truth, for Justice, and for the non-lying-sack-of-shit Way.

First, all of Olney's victims: You people are class. And please, keep us informed of your work. I will admit to basically being a DC-Only guy (with a couple exceptions), but I will definitely go out of my way to pick up any of your future endeavours. You all have shown yourselves to be class acts throughout this craziness, and that needs to be supported.

Second, our Logjam Group: Mark Waid, Kurt Busiek, Tony Isabella, Scott Shaw!, Chuck Dixon ... keep on mucking up the comics industry with Eisner and Emmy award winning crap, so that misunderstood geniuses like The Defendant can't manage to break through! (Seriously, in almost 400 pages of posts, that was the single most bizarre.) You guys are all amazing. And all really, really funny.

Third, the regulars here who have made this thread, which could have been so damned depressing and repulsive, into the single most hilarious thing I can remember reading in a long time. Seriously, a lot of the zingers had me laughing out loud so vociferously I awakened others in my house. A better group of people cannot be located on planet Earth, I don't think.

Finally, Gail Simone, herself. You rule. You made this all happen in a way which I can't even imagine you could have forseen. This is so important, so damned JUST, that your Plebes, we salute you.

There's been a lot of irony throughout this endeavor. A LOT. But what I find the most beautiful of all is that the Most Despicable Man Near Comics, someone who, as his story came to light, and, even worse, his toxic personality, should by all rights have cast a pall over the comics community, instead brought so many people, legends, regulars, newbies, fans, all sorts together into a beautiful show of community and support and kindness and passion.

Who'd a thunk it? A loser scum-bag like The Defendant serves to end up making me proud to read comics. Life is really weird.

[singoalla]

....He compares Homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality?
Good God!!!!

Unfortunately for those who happen to be gay or lesbian or transgender, it is a very, very common comparison. I'm neither, but I've heard it more than once, and that intergalactic leap of logic just boggles the mind.

Them being fed lead paintchips by momma as a child is my only explanation.

[MacQuarrie]

Ok y'all here is the kicker and maybe a little more light into the situation.

As of the time that I started working for the defendant he told me that he was in the process of "securing his assets" to leave his wife within the next year. She works in insurance and works full time from what I gather. She was also asking him all kinds of questions a while back about TLE and he got pissy about that so I am assuming she does not have much to do with the everyday goings on.

Also, as if you do not already know that the man is sue happy... he was also telling me that he was persuing a lawsuit against his dying cousin for property he felt was taken from his father.
How much did he get for his soul, and how long ago did Satan take ownership?

[AaronJ]

How much did he get for his soul, and how long ago did Satan take ownership?

I seriously think that that is verging on slandering The Dark Lord. I mean, really: would even Satan want Olney?

[OzBat!]

Well, maybe he doesn't want him as such, but apparently The Defendant comes as part of a job lot, so he's stuck with him.

[AaronJ]

Well, maybe he doesn't want him as such, but apparently The Defendant comes as part of a job lot, so he's stuck with him.

That makes me actually feel sorry for Satan.

[Scott Shaw!]

Jim MacQuarrie, Nat Gertler and I spread the word about Rick Olney and Tightlip Entertainment at tonight's C.A.P.S. (Comic Art Professional Society, now celebrating its 30th year!) business meeting here in Burbank. We gave 'em the short version of Olney's history, with very little editorializing, but the report and questions went on for ten to fifteen minutes and was met with great interest and outrage. I noticed most of the members present were writing down Olney's name. Lotsa head-shaking, too. Sergio was sitting next to me and I could hear him softly saying "Ayiyi..." to himself. Everyone's gonna pass on the story to their fellow professionals and comic book shops, and I detected some interest in participating in any fund-raising efforts, too.

Obviously, we'll alert the membership to any new developments in the Olney/Tightlip case.

Aloha,

Scott!

P.S.: Any pros in the greater Los Angeles area who might be interested in joining C.A.P.S., or even just attending a meeting, please get in touch with Jim, Nat or myself. -- SS!

[MacQuarrie]

Scott, I was just about to post that, but I thought I'd get caught up on the thread first.

Too slow once again.

Long and short of it, Los Angeles is behind you, guys.

[TonyIsabella]

I've been battling deadlines and a nasty flu, but I want to jump in with just a few quick comments.

1) I roll my eyes whenever I'm compared to Gail, Mark, Kurt, Chuck, and Scott, all of whom have far more impressive bodies of work than this old soldier of the comic-book trenches. I feel like Snapper Carr.

2) Bob Ingersoll is my best friend, which is why I haven't dragged him into this thread. He's a public defender in the appeals division, so this isn't the kind of law he practices. But he's real good at his job. He's one of the few attorneys in his office who ever wins an appeal and one of the only two - the last time I asked him - qualified to represent defendants in death penalty cases. He's a good man on all fronts, but he's unlikely to show up here.

3) Gail and I are working on something that we should be able to spring on you early next week. It's another way of turning this sow's ear into a fine silk purse, much like the sense of community that's come out of Olney's depraved indifference to the most basic human decencies.

Have a nice weekend...well, except for Olney.

Tony Isabella

[Cam63]

Well, one of Rick's biggest braggy boasts turns out to be, as we all suspected, more Olney horseshit.

Man, did he mess with the wrong community. Turns out one of my MySpace friends has worked for LucasFilms and knows the guy who created the Ric Olie character design. He'd never heard of Olney or Orca, flat out. He asked around, NO ONE involved had. They have serious doubts about the free comics story, too, apparently.

Nice one, Rick. Wrong people to try that on, entirely.

Gail

Maybe he was the shit Jar Jar walked in.

[Cam63]

My drawing skills are pretty mediocre. Unless it's drawing a mug of beer from a keg. I'm pretty skilled at that.

Can you do it over your shoulder holding a mirror ?

[Cam63]

Rich's middle initial is 'L,' someone close to him tells me.

Gail

" Loser ? "
" Leech ? "
" Louse ? "
" Lint ? "
" Linament ? "

[singoalla]

Ok y'all here is the kicker and maybe a little more light into the situation.

As of the time that I started working for the defendant he told me that he was in the process of "securing his assets" to leave his wife within the next year. She works in insurance and works full time from what I gather. She was also asking him all kinds of questions a while back about TLE and he got pissy about that so I am assuming she does not have much to do with the everyday goings on.

Also, as if you do not already know that the man is sue happy... he was also telling me that he was persuing a lawsuit against his dying cousin for property he felt was taken from his father.

Jesus. Poor woman.
If this has any truth to it, I feel sorry for her. This is pure speculation, but is it possible he has gotten checks in her name without her knowing, and signed them himself?
He may have spun his lies and told them so well she's had no reason to doubt him. .. Okay so she's supergullible.. but still. I prefer to give everyone I don't know the benefit of the doubt, until the mole hill of evidence becomes a mountain that is..

[Cam63]

What the --?!? He's using kids with cancer to sell the story?

Well, there is no gutter so low he won't crawl bellyfirst through.

[AaronJ]

Well, there is no gutter so low he won't crawl bellyfirst through.

Ain't that the truth?

I've seen some low-life hucksters in my day, but this "guy" takes the cake.

[Cam63]

Okay, this is officially the funniest thing I've read all day. Seriously, milk shot out of my nose. And I wasn't even drinking any milk.

You should probably go to the hospital, mate.

[Mike Bullock]

I'm just off to bed

Thought I would post a more appropriate pic of a kitty, considering this thread

This is Crash


I'll see your crash, raise you a Camry:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h247/Runemaster_Studios/kitty.jpg

Tie it to the topic by saying she's the most affection cat I've ever had and even she hates Rick.

~And~

To make it fun, the first person to post the issue, page and panel # of LTB that Camry appears in gets a free signed copy.

How's that for a multi-tasking post?

[Art Grafunkel]

To make it fun, the first person to post the issue, page and panel # of LTB that Camry appears in gets a free signed copy.

Two.

Five.

And, erm... Two.

:p

[Richv1]

I to have had a lot of problems with Rick in the past. He has only stiffed me for a very small amount. The main thing I did not like are his promises to do things and he never does. He talks just like Gail said about honor or integity but shows very little if any.
He has a way of vanishing for a while and than coming back to.
Gail according to Rick your one of his best friends. Another lie I see by him.
It is not surprising.
The only reason I have dealt with him is because I love comics. And in this hobby it is rare to find someone like him. Thankfully.

Richard Vasseur
www.jazmaonline.com

[Mike Bullock]

Two.

Five.

And, erm... Two.

:p


No.

Umm... no.

And, uh... no.

Sorry, thanks for trying, we have a some lovely parting NDAs for you... ;)

[Mike Bullock]

I to have had a lot of problems with Rick in the past. He has only stiffed me for a very small amount. The main thing I did not like are his promises to do things and he never does. He talks just like Gail said about honor or integity but shows very little if any.
He has a way of vanishing for a while and than coming back to.
Gail according to Rick your one of his best friends. Another lie I see by him.
It is not surprising.
The only reason I have dealt with him is because I love comics. And in this hobby it is rare to find someone like him. Thankfully.

Richard Vasseur
www.jazmaonline.com

Do you plan on continuing to host his Tight Lip forum on your site?

[Cam63]

http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Nicholson_closeup_A_Few_Good_Men.jpg
Olney: What is this? I did my job, I'd do it again. I'm gonna get in a smelly car and go attend an empty panel at my con.

Judge: You're not going anywhere, Olney.

Olney: What is this? I'm being charged with not paying people? Is that what this is? I'm being charged with taking people's money and work? This is funny. That's what this is. This is-- [leaps towards Matt Doc Martin] I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull! You f*cked with the wrong pretend Marine!

Thank you, Ed. :D

[Cam63]

What in sweet fucking fuck is a "scientific space fantasy?"

JLK
seriously, what is it

The exploration of the area between Olney's ears looking for some imagination and intelligence.

It could be a deep probe.

[OzBat!]

It could be a deep probe.No way. Even alien probes have some class!

[Cam63]

....He compares Homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality?
Good God!!!!

Apparently, he's a genius in such matters.

[Cam63]

No way. Even alien probes have some class!

What about ALF, then ?

[Cam63]

According to an email I just got, he allegedly owes money to a local comics shop, as well. Not an inconsiderable amount, either.

Gail

I bet he owes homeless beggars money, too.

[Blake Petit]

I... I liked ALF. :(

[Cam63]

I feel a little bad for that Dennis guy.

I wonder what he's thinking through all this?

" I still can't rid of the stench ! " ?

[Cam63]

I... I liked ALF. :(

*Pats Blake's shoulder*

Have a beer, mate.

[Cam63]

Remember...even the Exxon Valdez and the Titanic had captains.

So does the Pommy cricket team.

...Poor Freddie.

[Cam63]

Then for your own good, stay out of that baby panda thread. :D

I hate them bamboo shoot eatin' freaks.

...and they're probably COMMIES !!!

[Cam63]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Papergirl2hc/baby_1.jpg

~Bev

You know... if you pop their heads, they're fulla funnelweb spiders.

...Oz' told me.

[Charles RB]

" Loser ? "
" Leech ? "
" Louse ? "
" Lint ? "
" Linament ? "


"Lola - L O L A Lola."

[Cam63]

Ok, fine, back to the subject at hand...the Lemming.

http://www.xeye.org/1995-2000/Pictures/Lemmings/Real-Lemming-photo.jpg

No wonder they kill themselves.

[DocAbsurd]

Well.

I've been in contact with 2 more former-colleagues of Moby Prick, one who was another ill-fated columnist (and is still owed money) and one who was a former friend.

Danny Donovan started his articles around the same time I did, for the same payment arrangement and the same excuses. He's since written the Blubbery-One off and gone on to do significantly better things since his disassociation.

Sam Catalino's run-ins with Moby were legendary on the MMC forums. He told Moby off in 50 words or less.

Neither have anything positive to add.

I'm still hoping I hear from the last of us columnists. May do a bit of hunting this morning.

As a side-note, I have heard Mrs Olney on the phone when she accidentally picked up the other line. She exists. I also can't help but think she has no clue as to what he's been doing to people; she never once sat in on 'business' discussions, and I never once heard him say he'd talk things over with her when it came to finances. I discuss everything with Daphne, even if it's just to get her feedback; if they've been married that long, I'd have to believe he'd do the same to some extent. I'm willing to bet he made everything sound totally legit to her, covering up his 'indiscretions' and passing the blame.

My best guess? She's as much a victim as we are.

One does not do these sorta things accidentally. He's sly, but this goes beyond 'slick'. He had to have planned all this out, had the contingencies ready, done his own legal 'research'. I have yet to read from anyone, from those in the business to those with legal savvy, who say that NDAs cover what he believes.

The scary thought is, if he put this much effort into a solid business plan instead of such treachery, he might actually have a publishing chance.

. . .

Yeah, I almost got that out with a straight face.




Doc 'Et Tu, Olney?' Absurd

[Cam63]

"Lola - L O L A Lola."

Leave The Kinks outta it.

[Cam63]

ARGHHHHHH!

Goddamn it, this guy is just...ARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH!


Gail

Gail " Hulk " Simone, everybody.

[OzBat!]

The scary thought is, if he put this much effort into a solid business plan instead of such treachery, he might actually have a publishing chance.That's just it though, isn't it? All that planning, conniving, coordination involved when ditching one person and moving on to the next... if he wasn't fully intent on ripping people off, if he used his talents for good instead of evil, he actually might have had something to show for it, instead of being all talk and having half the internet out for his blood!Yeah, I almost got that out with a straight face.And a truly heroic effort it was too!

[DocAbsurd]

At this point, I would love to hear from one, just one single person who remains either friends or satisfactorily contracted (i.e., paid) with Moby.

Not to jump down their throats or throw 'em on the witness stand; just to find someone who can stand up and say, 'He's been fair with me.'

And I mean currently, not a decade ago.

I can't wrap my head around the fact that with all the links, the blogs, the messageboards, with the way this forum has been spread around, that not one single live mentally-competent person has stepped forward. We haven't heard from a charity that he's donated books to, a vendor who completed a transaction, a creator who's had their contract met, a guest who was treated like . . . well, like a guest.

This truly has become the anti 'This Is Your Life'.




Doc 'Will the Next Victim Kindly Sign In?' Absurd

[Cam63]

That's just it though, isn't it? All that planning, conniving, coordination involved when ditching one person and moving on to the next... if he wasn't fully intent on ripping people off, if he used his talents for good instead of evil, he actually might have had something to show for it, instead of being all talk and having half the internet out for his blood!And a truly heroic effort it was too!

No. The guy has no talent outside of being a shit.

[mortari]

Hey guys not much to contribute, but when Unscrewed comes out if anyone wants a table at one of my shows to promote it (or just to have some copies at the show to sell) I can get some free tables open.

[AIPman1]

Hey guys not much to contribute, but when Unscrewed comes out if anyone wants a table at one of my shows to promote it (or just to have some copies at the show to sell) I can get some free tables open.

got a website for us to look at?

[JeffreyWKramer]

That's just it though, isn't it? All that planning, conniving, coordination involved when ditching one person and moving on to the next... if he wasn't fully intent on ripping people off, if he used his talents for good instead of evil, he actually might have had something to show for it, instead of being all talk and having half the internet out for his blood!

This is something that always astounds me about crooks: If they put as much effort into something honest, a lot of them would very likely be legitimate success stories.

Back at the start of my professional career, one of my very first clients was a guy that had just been released from federal prison after serving a big chunk (13 years, I think) of a 20-year sentence for robbing an armored car, plus criminal consipracy and other, related charges. He was having issues with depression and with trying to integrate back into society. We got talking about what had landed him into prison, and I was rather amazed. He and a group of cronies - 8 or 9 total, I think - had decided that rather than keep working tedious or dead-end jobs, they would heist an armored car full of cash. They had planned this heist in pretty impressive detail, over the course of over a year, which including staking out the routes and routines of the cars and one of them even getting a job with the car company. They pulled off the heist - not an easy task, many professional criminals balk at the idea of doing this sort of robbery - and got away with a good chunk of money, as they'd done the robbery at a point in the car's routine when it would have the most money onboard. However, when you divided up the winnings between the number of conspirators, the take looked a lot less impressive, and when you consider the prep time and the costs that had gone into the planning and implementation of the crime, the profit margin became even less impressive. And if you then consider how little actual benefit the crooks got from their effort, and the amount of time served, it didn't look like much of an accomplishment at all.

Fact is, the shit hit the fan for these guys within less than 24 hours. The heist hit the news immediately, and as soon as the money was split up, stupid criminal personality flaws kicked in. One of the guys, the first thing he did was blew a lot of money hiring a very high-class and high-priced call girl, living the high life and bragging about his accomplishment. She immediately saw this as a way to get out of some legal entanglements of her own, and in exchange for some charges being dropped along with collecting the substantial reward already offered for information, she told the authorities about her customer of the night-before, giving very complete information. He was arrested while he was still crashed out in the expensive hotel room in which she'd entertained him the night before, still groggy with a sex-and-champagne hangover. He caved under pressure from investators and agreed to identify and testify against his cronies in exchange for a lighter sentence under protective custody (a "punk plea"), and in very short order, my client and the rest of the guys were in custody and facing big time charges.

After the guy told his story, the first thing I asked was "all the work you guys put in, and how well you pulled it off, why didn't you and your pals put that same effort into doing something legit? As good a job as you did, you probably could have done something else and never gone to prison, and in the long run, have actually made and kept the money and done okay by yourselves." He thought about that only for a minute and said that if I'd asked him/them that at the time, they'd have all probably said that was too much work, and he also said that the idea had really never occurred to him at the time, though he'd thought about it a lot while behind bars all those years.

Olney's likely the same way. Taking the dishonest route, and putting in all the effort to run a scam, is simply more in character for a certain sort of personality than is putting the same sort of effort into anything legitimate that requires one to actually be responsible.

[mortari]

got a website for us to look at?


Kinda, one of the guys who sets up has it all on this site

http://epguides.com/comics/

[Kozemp]

So does the Pommy cricket team.

...Poor Freddie.

HEY NOW.

It's not Freddie's fault.

Then again, it never is, is it?

JLK
still trying to entirely grasp cricket

EDIT: Now editing my .sig to something probably only cam will get.

[Hybrid2]

Gail according to Rick your one of his best friends. Another lie I see by him.
It is not surprising.

Gail and Rick siting in a tree.

:D

[Dhaunea]

*rubs eyes* I've never read YABS and I've always been a very quiet lurker type. I belong to a lot of forums and don't really say much in any of them.

I also belong to Fandom Wank and when I saw this there on Wednesday I couldn't resist. I've been reading this thread with every free moment since and I <i>finally</i> got to the end.

... and I think the sick, scary part is that I live not far at all from the defendant's home grounds and if it does go to court, I want to see it. I've been digging around in the strange and wild intricacies of the scary scammers of the publishing world for a while now (just reading about them in a purely casual sense) and I'm really, truly curious what such a trial would look like.

Plus it'd be very interesting to see how the legal end wraps up, at any rate.

I knew that the scammers ran rampant in the publishing world, but I've never run across the comic variety (although my roommate is in charge of buying comics and graphic novels for her library system and was a big fan of several of the Crossgen titles, so I heard about all of that chapter and verse) but this isn't the same thing... and it's been totally fascinating in a train-wreck sort of way.

I have a number of friends who dream of someday joining the comics industry and I think that this thread would be a very good read for most of them.

Thank you, Gail, for posting this. The amount of really amazing information and aid and good feeling (and cute animal macros and a huge craving for doughnuts) which came out of it is just amazing.

Thank you everyone else for the information and entertainment.

'cept Rick. I really <i>do</i> hope to see him in court, if only as a gawking bystander.

[Typo Lad]

No wonder they kill themselves.
Lemmings don't commit mass suicide. That's a myth due to a staged documentary.

[Kozemp]

Gail..

Not for nothing, but while all this brouhaha is going on you're still finding time to... you know... write comics, right?

I certainly hope so, I'd hate for this jagoff to take that from us.

JLK

[Hybrid2]

Lemmings don't commit mass suicide. That's a myth due to a staged documentary.

Huh?Staged documentary?

Where you heard that?

[thespianphryne]

Huh?Staged documentary?

Where you heard that?

Here you go mate:
Lemming suicide is fiction (http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.htm)

-Das

[mortari]

Kinda, one of the guys who sets up has it all on this site

http://epguides.com/comics/

My show is only the Gurnee Show by the way.

[Typo Lad]

It's all Disney's fault!

[EdContradictory]

Danny Donovan started his articles around the same time I did, for the same payment arrangement and the same excuses. He's since written the Blubbery-One off and gone on to do significantly better things since his disassociation.
You give Danny some huggy-loves from all of us here on YABS.

Sam Catalino's run-ins with Moby were legendary on the MMC forums. He told Moby off in 50 words or less.
Yeah, I remember those. Those were great. I wonder if I saved any of them...

[Gail Simone]

Hey, folks.

Just wanted to add my bits.

1. Someone very near and dear to me was to write a series for TLP. He jumped out of the sinking ship just before WWC. Luckily, no contracts had been signed, no scripts had been handed over, and the property is his to do with as he pleases currently.

2. In reflecting on my MySpace comments, Mr. Olney had sent me an outre "Thanks for the add!" comment featuring what appears to be a super-team with the title of Freedom 3. Of course, I deleted it, but was there actually anyone connected with this series? Or was it simply the promise of a book when the factual reality was a mere splash page?

3. Without going back through hundreds of pages, can someone give me a briefing on the t-shirts?

4. In regards to the killer whale, himself, can anyone say... RADIOACTIVE?

I realize that some, much, or even all of this may have been already covered. Please forgive any ignorance on my part... I got to the party (or is it a wake?) a tad late.

Keep spreading the sequential love!

Zivio
---Koben Kelly:)

Welcome, Koben.

Unbelievably, I am STILL getting word from people Rick owes money to.

This guy will be lucky if he can even BUY comics after this. I have never seen so many disgusted, cheated people this side of Enron.

Gail

[Typo Lad]

This guy will be lucky if he can even BUY comics after this. I have never seen so many disgusted, cheated people this side of Enron.


How about the Democratic Party in 2000?

Heh.

[Gail Simone]

Jim MacQuarrie, Nat Gertler and I spread the word about Rick Olney and Tightlip Entertainment at tonight's C.A.P.S. (Comic Art Professional Society, now celebrating its 30th year!) business meeting here in Burbank. We gave 'em the short version of Olney's history, with very little editorializing, but the report and questions went on for ten to fifteen minutes and was met with great interest and outrage. I noticed most of the members present were writing down Olney's name. Lotsa head-shaking, too. Sergio was sitting next to me and I could hear him softly saying "Ayiyi..." to himself. Everyone's gonna pass on the story to their fellow professionals and comic book shops, and I detected some interest in participating in any fund-raising efforts, too.

Obviously, we'll alert the membership to any new developments in the Olney/Tightlip case.

Aloha,

Scott!

P.S.: Any pros in the greater Los Angeles area who might be interested in joining C.A.P.S., or even just attending a meeting, please get in touch with Jim, Nat or myself. -- SS!


I just wanna GO one time. Do they allow tokens?

Well done, Scott.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

I've been battling deadlines and a nasty flu, but I want to jump in with just a few quick comments.

1) I roll my eyes whenever I'm compared to Gail, Mark, Kurt, Chuck, and Scott, all of whom have far more impressive bodies of work than this old soldier of the comic-book trenches. I feel like Snapper Carr.



Tony Isabella


Dude, there's being humble, and there's being crazy. You're about as much 'Snapper Carr' as Olney is a publisher and writer.

Gail Lightning

[Gail Simone]

I to have had a lot of problems with Rick in the past. He has only stiffed me for a very small amount. The main thing I did not like are his promises to do things and he never does. He talks just like Gail said about honor or integity but shows very little if any.
He has a way of vanishing for a while and than coming back to.
Gail according to Rick your one of his best friends. Another lie I see by him.
It is not surprising.
The only reason I have dealt with him is because I love comics. And in this hobby it is rare to find someone like him. Thankfully.

Richard Vasseur
www.jazmaonline.com


He even cheated the Jazma folks.

Richard, thank you for stepping forward. When Rick started deleting the posts of people he'd cheated on the Jazma website, people came forward to say that Jazma and you were all straight up, so no worries at all about that.

But I'm sorry to hear of yet another person Rick lied to and cheated.

Welcome to the ever growing club.

Gail

[Typo Lad]

Yeah, TonyIsabella's not Snapper Carr.

I don't think TonyIsabella would ever betray anyone to the Joker.

[Gail Simone]

At this point, I would love to hear from one, just one single person who remains either friends or satisfactorily contracted (i.e., paid) with Moby.

Not to jump down their throats or throw 'em on the witness stand; just to find someone who can stand up and say, 'He's been fair with me.'

And I mean currently, not a decade ago.

I can't wrap my head around the fact that with all the links, the blogs, the messageboards, with the way this forum has been spread around, that not one single live mentally-competent person has stepped forward. We haven't heard from a charity that he's donated books to, a vendor who completed a transaction, a creator who's had their contract met, a guest who was treated like . . . well, like a guest.

This truly has become the anti 'This Is Your Life'.




Doc 'Will the Next Victim Kindly Sign In?' Absurd



ANYONE is welcome here to tell their side. ANYONE. If someone has been paid properly by Rick, and treated with competence and honest, then PLEASE come talk about it. You will not be attacked. We just want to know the whole story.

Gail

[hellokittykat]

How could this guy have cheated so many people and still put on that righteous attitude? Doesn't he have any moral fiber at all? It's sick!

[Ronée]

I made that plea in my column... i will gladly devote the front page to anyone who wants to defend the man...ANYONE

[Gail Simone]

Hey guys not much to contribute, but when Unscrewed comes out if anyone wants a table at one of my shows to promote it (or just to have some copies at the show to sell) I can get some free tables open.

THAT is very very cool.

Again, just echoing those who have said, this kind of grass roots support for the screwed creators makes me very proud. I like that for every Olney, there are so many honest, decent people in the industry who want to help.

GOOD ON YA.

Thanks, Mortari. I hope some people take you up on your generous offer.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

*rubs eyes* I've never read YABS and I've always been a very quiet lurker type. I belong to a lot of forums and don't really say much in any of them.

I also belong to Fandom Wank and when I saw this there on Wednesday I couldn't resist. I've been reading this thread with every free moment since and I <i>finally</i> got to the end.

... and I think the sick, scary part is that I live not far at all from the defendant's home grounds and if it does go to court, I want to see it. I've been digging around in the strange and wild intricacies of the scary scammers of the publishing world for a while now (just reading about them in a purely casual sense) and I'm really, truly curious what such a trial would look like.

Plus it'd be very interesting to see how the legal end wraps up, at any rate.

I knew that the scammers ran rampant in the publishing world, but I've never run across the comic variety (although my roommate is in charge of buying comics and graphic novels for her library system and was a big fan of several of the Crossgen titles, so I heard about all of that chapter and verse) but this isn't the same thing... and it's been totally fascinating in a train-wreck sort of way.

I have a number of friends who dream of someday joining the comics industry and I think that this thread would be a very good read for most of them.

Thank you, Gail, for posting this. The amount of really amazing information and aid and good feeling (and cute animal macros and a huge craving for doughnuts) which came out of it is just amazing.

Thank you everyone else for the information and entertainment.

'cept Rick. I really <i>do</i> hope to see him in court, if only as a gawking bystander.



Welcome, you.

If you go to watch the court case, will you sell t-shirts and balloons?

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Gail..

Not for nothing, but while all this brouhaha is going on you're still finding time to... you know... write comics, right?

I certainly hope so, I'd hate for this jagoff to take that from us.

JLK

Yeah, I've actually had an amazingly productive week.

It's SLEEP I gave up on.


Gail

[Gail Simone]

A mod at Billy Tucci's board just emailed me (thank you, I'll hold your name til you say otherwise) with an interesting tidbit.

Rick is claiming to have thousands of dollars in Marvel comics he was intending to sell. For those who feel he has no money at all, it might make a very interesting point to tell the judge in any court case, that he has this kind of value in liquifiable collectibles.

http://www.crusadefinearts.com/forums/index.php/topic,1382.15.html

" Re: Anyone want to help me eviscerate someone?
« Reply #19 on: Sat, November 18, 2006, 15:20:24 »

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You guys are scaring me.

I have between 12-13k worth of Marvel multiple back issues from 1962-1979 that I was going to begin having placed on Ebay. They're not CGC'ed, but the grading is spot-on and the books are sweet between Vg+ and Vf. Yet now I'm reading these horror stories and this looks like somethng I don't want to get into. Maybe a better way to go is adding a shopping cart to one of my websites and peddling them that way? ???

Logged

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Regards,
~Rick

"

I would frankly love the irony if he lost his comics paying back people he's cheated.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

If you are still interested in a shirt, I have 2 new versions. (very slight differences)


PM me, as I am providing them from a different location....one that peanut will NOT be able to stop. (What can I say, peanut?...unlike you, I learn. No more relying on shops you can complain to. Or, as people from NJ say: Suck my ass.)

They look nice!

[Dhaunea]

Welcome, you.

If you go to watch the court case, will you sell t-shirts and balloons?

Gail


Nope. But I would pack a big ol' basket of cookies and other refreshments for anyone else who showed up. I haven't got anything else to contribute to the generous efforts being made by others so the least I could do would be to provide the witnesses with home baked munchies.

... or perhaps a few boxes of doughnuts.

[Gail Simone]

Nope. But I would pack a big ol' basket of cookies and other refreshments for anyone else who showed up. I haven't got anything else to contribute to the generous efforts being made by others so the least I could do would be to provide the witnesses with home baked munchies.

... or perhaps a few boxes of doughnuts.

Hey, as established before, doughnuts are very important!

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://www.crusadefinearts.com/forums/index.php/topic,1382.15.html

" Re: Anyone want to help me eviscerate someone?
« Reply #19 on: Sat, November 18, 2006, 15:20:24 »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You guys are scaring me.

I have between 12-13k worth of Marvel multiple back issues from 1962-1979 that I was going to begin having placed on Ebay. They're not CGC'ed, but the grading is spot-on and the books are sweet between Vg+ and Vf. Yet now I'm reading these horror stories and this looks like somethng I don't want to get into. Maybe a better way to go is adding a shopping cart to one of my websites and peddling them that way? ???

Logged

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Regards,
~Rick

"

I would frankly love the irony if he lost his comics paying back people he's cheated.

Gail


Now say it with me...

1.....2......3.....

COPIED!!!

If anyone else finds more fun links, let me know. I want to be a star witness!

[Comcman]

I'll see your crash, raise you a Camry:


To make it fun, the first person to post the issue, page and panel # of LTB that Camry appears in gets a free signed copy.

How's that for a multi-tasking post?

Issue 2, Story page 12 (in the TPB) panel 2 by the fountain?

[KevinTBrown]

Hey, as established before, doughnuts are very important!

Gail

More on point.... The RIGHT doughnuts are very important. ;)

[Gail Simone]

Creepy.

Rick's writing is full of the idea that people don't realize what a HERO he is.

I just read one of his crappy, crappy scripts, and it's so clearly and terribly autobiographical...urgh.

This is from Tucci's board again:

" Re: Crusader's Quote of the Day
« Reply #246 on: Fri, December 12, 2003, 03:44:51 »

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Yo, Boomboom! I think you're right about those quotes.

I especially liked the one about changing the world's social climate.

Reading back through this thread, I think it was Delvie that pointed out this quote by his grirlfriend, "Nothing in the world is the way it ought to be. It's harsh & cruel... but that's why there's us. Champions. It does't matter where we come from, what we've done or suffered, or even if we made a difference. We live our lives as if the world is as it should be... to show the world what it can be."
~Angel

With a new year coming up on us... we all gotta try harder. :)

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Regards,
--Rick

[khuxford]

Rick claims to have thousands of dollars worth of comics to sell...then shies away from eBay...a site that helps set a fair price and has methods of making you accountable directly for what you sell and how you sell it.

And you're all going wide-eyed with thoughts that there might be a way to squeeze some money out of the guy? :D

[Comcman]

Um, wow.

Can I enrobe you in gold?

GREAT post. WELCOME, and I hope you hang around...we love retailers here and particularly retailers who are lawyers who have such outstanding bs detectors!

:)

Seriously, hope to see your store someday!

Gail

Thanks for the kind words. Please stop by anytime you are out this way.

I'll buy dinner. Applebee's, right? :rolleyes:

[Gail Simone]

Thanks for the kind words. Please stop by anytime you are out this way.

I'll buy dinner. Applebee's, right? :rolleyes:

Heh. ANYWHERE BUT APPLEBEE'S!

But definitely, if I ever come to that area, I'd be delighted to do a signing or appearance or whatever, if you like.

Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Why would Tony Isabella feel like he's not a Legend ? I mean , come on. You created Black Lightning. DC's 1st headling superhero. The character itself has managed to survive for 30+ years and is now in Brad Meltzer's JLA .

Hell thats enough without mentioning the Novels you have wrote.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Heh. ANYWHERE BUT APPLEBEE'S!

But definitely, if I ever come to that area, I'd be delighted to do a signing or appearance or whatever, if you like.

Gail

Cracker Barrell rules all.....everyone knows that. :p

[Mike Bullock]

Issue 2, Story page 12 (in the TPB) panel 2 by the fountain?

Close, but not quite. Feel free to try again. :)

[TomStillwell]

Cracker Barrell rules all.....everyone knows that. :p

You wouldn't be so high on Cracker Barrell if you knew how often it was sued for employment problems.

[Corrina]

Dude, there's being humble, and there's being crazy. You're about as much 'Snapper Carr' as Olney is a publisher and writer.

Gail Lightning


Want to know the first series I ever bagged and boarded because I never wanted the issues to get ruined?

Black Lightning.

The second was Michael Golden's Micronauts.

Do I have good taste or what?

[rummblestrips]

Rick claims to have thousands of dollars worth of comics to sell...then shies away from eBay...a site that helps set a fair price and has methods of making you accountable directly for what you sell and how you sell it.

And you're all going wide-eyed with thoughts that there might be a way to squeeze some money out of the guy? :D

He DOES have comics. A fellow Indy Artist and writer from my neck of the woods sent Rick a few boxes of vintage comics with the agreement that he would get paid book value for them. Rick never paid him, refused to send back the comics and because it was international, (I'm in Canada) there was nothing my friend could do. I haven't spoken to him in ages. I'm going to send him a quick email and let him know what's going on here and maybe he'll come and tell his story.