Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[KevinTBrown]

It's more fun to give 'em a flesh wound.

As Richard J. Daley once said: I ordered them to shoot to wound.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

When someone in a post keeps mentioning their sane over and over....thats when I worry.

[EdContradictory]

Yes. YOU did that. Uh-huh. Funny how Marvel has never listed you in editorial or management. Did you create the term "comic book" as well?


Where is this from?

[Cam63]

I was feeling bored.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/sparvid/cage.jpg

That could be a T-shirt best seller.

[KevinTBrown]

When someone in a post keeps mentioning their sane over and over....thats when I worry.

You're just now starting to worry about Olney....????



:p

[Matt Doc Martin]

Where is this from?

Whoops...sorry.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=399510#post399510

[Cam63]

As Richard J. Daley once said: I ordered them to shoot to wound.

I saw a news story where a police sniper literally shot a gun from a deranged man's hand.

Unless he was going for a kill shot and he had the hiccups at the time.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I saw a news story where a police sniper literally shot a gun from a deranged man's hand.

Unless he was going for a kill shot and he had the hiccups at the time.

Mmmmmmmmm.........shooting bad guys....

http://turbomirage.phpwebhosting.com/pics/misc/homer_drool.gif

[Wil Radcliffe]

Whoops...sorry.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=399510#post399510

Good grief! I thought you added those "I'm sane" lines as a dig. I had no idea he was actually insane enough to put those in himself!

[TCJohnson]

I truly, truly want to see on of Rick Olney's books get published...

....Just so I could see Ray Tate's review of the book....

...And Rick Olney's reaction to the review...

...THAT would be a thing of beauty. They would be locked in an escalating life and death struggle and provide the rest of us with years of amusement.

Oh, please let this be!

[Wil Radcliffe]

To quote one of the greatest of all American philosophers... (http://frogstar.soylentgeek.com/wav/ltbb_052.wav)

[Calliope's Comics]

On another thread we were discussing copyright and trademark. One ( wrestler) recieved word that due to another company buying an old company he worked years earlier for he can't use a moniker or phrase he used to do " The King of Old School ".


If that is Mr. Corino he may want to check to make sure the WWE still holds the copyright on that. They have let several of their ECW trademarks lapse, including "The Impact Players" since they had no plan to use it.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Good grief! I thought you added those "I'm sane" lines as a dig. I had no idea he was actually insane enough to put those in himself!

I wouldn't want to add that...he writes the best stuff all on his own!

[KevinTBrown]

I truly, truly want to see on of Rick Olney's books get published...

....Just so I could see Ray Tate's review of the book....

...And Rick Olney's reaction to the review...

...THAT would be a thing of beauty. They would be locked in an escalating life and death struggle and provide the rest of us with years of amusement.

Oh, please let this be!
The thing is, Ray would probably love it.... :o

[Cam63]

To quote one of the greatest of all American philosophers... (http://frogstar.soylentgeek.com/wav/ltbb_052.wav)

Umm... Mike Tyson ?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

You're just now starting to worry about Olney....????



:p

No ....I stopped worrying that he had gotten in over his head when the information came forward he had done this to way more others and witha tag of over $ 100,000 its beyond the sorry stage. It shows something worse in him.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

If that is Mr. Corino he may want to check to make sure the WWE still holds the copyright on that. They have let several of their ECW trademarks lapse, including "The Impact Players" since they had no plan to use it.

They just sent him a letter. He just discussed it on a radio show.

[Wil Radcliffe]

I truly, truly want to see on of Rick Olney's books get published...


As someone who's actually seen all the artwork and scripts for Tales of the Spooky, I have to tell you that it actually was (and could yet be) a great book. Any horror fan would definitely love it. It has a great mix of horror, humor, and pathos. Not a dud in the bunch... 'cept maybe my stuff, but the great artwork made up for that. :)

[KevinTBrown]

No ....I stopped worrying that he had gotten in over his head when the information came forward he had done this to way more others and witha tag of over $ 100,000 its beyond the sorry stage. It shows something worse in him.

Y'know, now is the time I pity his family.

Anything with Olney's name on it, it's an asset for whomever wins. House, car, business, etc.

[kadymae]

It's also not consistent -- when the Houston Astros sent me a letter challenging my trademark on ASTRO CITY, we sent them back a letter politely inviting them to bite us, and they went away, because they knew they had no real grounds for the challenge, and weren't willing to try anything more than the letter.

kdb

When Best Buy sent ST a trademark letter about "Geek Squad" (A "techie" column that hasn't run in some time at ST) we replied back that (a) Our Logo was very different from theirs (b) Our site design, URL, and Logos were very different from Best Buy's, (c) The Geek Squad name/logo as Best Buy uses it, actually advertises a service where as ST's Geek Squad logo did not promote a service; that ST sells no services, and (d) we reserved the right to write and publish future Geek Squad columns using the title and logo.

We never heard from them again.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Umm... Mike Tyson ?

Holy smokes! I never realized how much Bugs and Tyson sounded alike!

[TCJohnson]

As someone who's actually seen all the artwork and scripts for Tales of the Spooky, I have to tell you that it actually was (and could yet be) a great book. Any horror fan would definitely love it. It has a great mix of horror, humor, and pathos. Not a dud in the bunch... 'cept maybe my stuff, but the great artwork made up for that. :)

Oh, I have no doubt...except a part about your stuff. You had some talent in there.

What I meant, specifically, is see a book with Rick as the writer, such as Freedom 3.

[Cam63]

Holy smokes! I never realized how much Bugs and Tyson sounded alike!

Actually, the guy who conned Bugs out of a gold mine sounds more like Tyson.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh, I have no doubt...except a part about your stuff. You had some talent in there.

What I meant, specifically, is see a book with Rick as the writer. Freedom 3 or

The only fiction you will see from pRick is most of the crap he writes in his posts.

"attorney"

"Marine"

"man"
"
"bather"

"human"

SANE"

[Wil Radcliffe]

I don't think I'm violating any NDA by posting something that's already been distributed for public consumption...

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/images/0608/spooky1.jpg

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/images/0608/spooky2.jpg

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/images/0608/spooky3.jpg

[TCJohnson]

The only fiction you will see from pRick is most of the crap he writes in his posts.

"attorney"

"Marine"

"man"
"
"bather"

"human"

SANE"

You forgot "Psychic"

[singoalla]

Quote:
ORCA's had several character representations in several mainstream and indy comics. Notably, SPAWN #46 and The ORCA female character, a jewel thief, in BATMAN DETECTIVE awhile back.

Liar, liar pants on fire. Yer suchafunnyguy Rick.
This is news to me. Probably DC Comics too. And Wikipedia: Orca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orca_(comics))

Oh snap! daveslongbox lame orca (http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/2005/08/lame-ass-villain-10-orca.html) beat me to the obvious:

Orca is a female Batman villain who appeared in Batman #579-581, which was written by Larry Hama with art by Scott McDaniel. As her name implies, Orca is half-human, half-killer whale, and all bad-ass. Actually, there's very little that is bad-ass about her. I mean, she's got a big ass, but... See? I failed right out of the gate and went with the cheap fat joke. Not cool, Dave!!

[Sarah Beach]

Scrolling on through that 2004 Newsarama thread was amusing. Not just because his first post has all those "I'm sane." things thrown in.

What got me was that the only real reaction he got out of that long babble, was one poster saying they'd gotten that he was sane. Then two pages of posts before he shows up again, because his entre made not a ripple in the interactions of the (apparent) regulars in that thread. Nothing until he chimes in about season/weather in NY state, with side mention of MightyMiniCon.

How does one manage to make what ought to be hype sooooo boring?

(And that's another reason I do NOT usually bother to trot out my credentials, because it just gets to be a droning dullness. If I can't be engaging in "conversation", why would anyone be interested in what I've done? The only use for my credentials is to brow-beat idiots like Olney who think they can condescend to me. Heh. And I still had a few that I hadn't whacked him with. Heheheheh. :evilsmile )

[Wil Radcliffe]

Oh, I have no doubt...except a part about your stuff. You had some talent in there.

What I meant, specifically, is see a book with Rick as the writer, such as Freedom 3.

Well, thanks for the compliment. :)

As for Rick's writing, the book might still be worth reading (not necessarily buying) since he has actually recruited some great artists for these projects. Just read it like a three year old... look at the pretty pictures and ignore the weird scribbles in the little white balloons.

[KevinTBrown]

You forgot "Psychic"

You need spell check I believe....

Here, let me help.

You forgot "Psychotic"

There. Much better.


:D

[Matt Doc Martin]

Scrolling on through that 2004 Newsarama thread was amusing. Not just because his first post has all those "I'm sane." things thrown in.

What got me was that the only real reaction he got out of that long babble, was one poster saying they'd gotten that he was sane. Then two pages of posts before he shows up again, because his entre made not a ripple in the interactions of the (apparent) regulars in that thread. Nothing until he chimes in about season/weather in NY state, with side mention of MightyMiniCon.

How does one manage to make what ought to be hype sooooo boring?

(And that's another reason I do NOT usually bother to trot out my credentials, because it just gets to be a droning dullness. If I can't be engaging in "conversation", why would anyone be interested in what I've done? The only use for my credentials is to brow-beat idiots like Olney who think they can condescend to me. Heh. And I still had a few that I hadn't whacked him with. Heheheheh. :evilsmile )


I need to apologize for stealing your "peanut" nickname for Rick during my rant.

[Dreadstar]

I don't think I'm violating any NDA by posting something that's already been distributed for public consumption...

Why take the chance? Seriously, why even present a straw to grasp?

Sun Tzu impresses upon the reader that you should be careful to never give the opponent even the least possible leverage.

[Sarah Beach]

I need to apologize for stealing your "peanut" nickname for Rick during my rant.

I thought it funny and appropriate! I'm all for the continued use of it by others! Hehehehe. :evilsmile

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Scrolling on through that 2004 Newsarama thread was amusing. Not just because his first post has all those "I'm sane." things thrown in.

What got me was that the only real reaction he got out of that long babble, was one poster saying they'd gotten that he was sane. Then two pages of posts before he shows up again, because his entre made not a ripple in the interactions of the (apparent) regulars in that thread. Nothing until he chimes in about season/weather in NY state, with side mention of MightyMiniCon.

How does one manage to make what ought to be hype sooooo boring?

(And that's another reason I do NOT usually bother to trot out my credentials, because it just gets to be a droning dullness. If I can't be engaging in "conversation", why would anyone be interested in what I've done? The only use for my credentials is to brow-beat idiots like Olney who think they can condescend to me. Heh. And I still had a few that I hadn't whacked him with. Heheheheh. :evilsmile )


I can picture a post like this if it was me:


I am Superecwfan1. I work for myself as a contractor. I am a lover of fine women and a hell of a humanitiran. I finished 4th in the voting for the Nobel Peace Prize and have even met Trish Stratus. I'm sane...

I have wrote wrestling columns for such great sites like www.wrestlecore.com ( No clue if that link works now...) and another site that escapes my mind. Ohh yeah...I'm sane.

If you read Batman I am the person that DC modeled the new villain Facade . Also since I love beautiful women , Gail Simone wrote the new female Judomaster with me in mind. What , your doubting my sanity ? How DARE YOU !! ;)

[Matt Algren]

(And that's another reason I do NOT usually bother to trot out my credentials, because it just gets to be a droning dullness. If I can't be engaging in "conversation", why would anyone be interested in what I've done? The only use for my credentials is to brow-beat idiots like Olney who think they can condescend to me. Heh. And I still had a few that I hadn't whacked him with. Heheheheh. :evilsmile )Incidentally, I checked out your blog. Nice work on the Tested by Fire column. You're bookmarked on my 'puter.

Everybody go check out Scribbler's blog!

[LomiMonet]

I don't think I'm violating any NDA by posting something that's already been distributed for public consumption...

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/images/0608/spooky1.jpg

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/images/0608/spooky2.jpg

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/images/0608/spooky3.jpg

Say.. that's some snappy artwork there.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Why take the chance? Seriously, why even present a straw to grasp?

Sun Tzu impresses upon the reader that you should be careful to never give the opponent even the least possible leverage.

They're links to images from one of Tightlip's own press releases. Anyone could have found them using google. I'm not in any danger for posting them.

If I was to start revealing plot details, dialogue, and other images that weren't readily available to the public, then I'd be on unstable ground.

But I'm positive I'm safe in this case. Thanks for the advice though.

[TomStillwell]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=401933#post401933

This thread has some interesting bits in it.

[MacQuarrie]

If that is Mr. Corino he may want to check to make sure the WWE still holds the copyright on that. They have let several of their ECW trademarks lapse, including "The Impact Players" since they had no plan to use it.

Please stop trying to give Colleen a stroke. "Copyright" and "trademark" are not interchangeable terms. They are entirely different things offering entirely different protections for entirely different purposes.

Thank you.

[Sarah Beach]

Incidentally, I checked out your blog. Nice work on the Tested by Fire column. You're bookmarked on my 'puter.

Everybody go check out Scribbler's blog!

Thank you! The blog may not be everyone's cup of tea. But it lets me muse on things that are important to me. I'm even considering one based on some of this latest bruhaha, about standing up and standing together.

[Kozemp]

Sigh... final dress and its aftermath kept me in the theatre until the wee hours, then I couldn't even get out of bed to go to work until about noon.

Now I get here, and spend hours reading what's piled up since I last visited.

A comment:

I'm sorry, Krispy Kreme is still the work of the devil, and not in that good way.

And some questions:

What happened yesterday? It was implied that Lying Fuck suddenly imploded because "something" happened yesterday. What was it? Tell us tell us tell us tell us.

What did McKeever write? I'd love to see that (grats on your exclusive, btw).

What was the thing Gail was waiting for confirmation on yesterday? Was said confirmation ever received?

JLK
can't wait for opening night so it will finally be over

[Blake Petit]

Generally, people with more money are better at gaming the system -- making a trial cost enough to be forbidding for a less-wealthy opponent, for example -- but that's not unique to trademark law. It's also not consistent -- when the Houston Astros sent me a letter challenging my trademark on ASTRO CITY, we sent them back a letter politely inviting them to bite us, and they went away, because they knew they had no real grounds for the challenge, and weren't willing to try anything more than the letter.

kdb

I'd never heard that before. That's freaking hysterical! :D

[Matt Doc Martin]

This thread has some interesting bits in it.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=410574&postcount=23

orcafresh


I we'd each and every one of us be smarter for the camraderie and interaction, whether it lead to an actual conference held at a con of consensus each year or if we somply partook in conversation in a specific already existing egroup.

Wha...huh?

[Jack Zodiac]

Krispy Kremes are a dessert donut; Dunkin Donuts are for breakfast and with coffee.

Dessert donut? Is that code for "I'm baked off my ass and don't care what I put in my body right now" donut? :p

You are so dead to me now.

You don't need to tell him. He already knows he's dead inside!

Thankfully, I've never met him. If I had, he'd probably rank about 9th on my "worst person" listing, only because I've also encountered - through my professional activities, which have included work in prison settings - a serial rapist, some child molesters, a cannibal and some Nazis.

Matt, we need another t-shirt: "I've only met eight serial rapists, child molesters, cannibals and Nazis worse than Rick Olney."

Starting with the first thread on this forum and dissecting my way through it and the e-mails Doc has received from those wishing to remain unnamed at this time the total is $104,650 that ONERY owes.......not only did I do the adding several times, I made my sister go over all the figures as well. Since she is an accountant and numbers are her forte, I gave her the frigging pleasure of sharing half my headache......

Well, fuck small claims court, then! Everyone should go for broke on this asshole!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/sparvid/cage.jpg

Saved! That picture's fuckin' hilarious on all kinds o' levels!

Sweet Christmas!

My thoughts exactly, Jeffrey!

[kadymae]

Mockey Mockety Mockety Mock (http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1043396.html)

:evilsmile

[Matt Doc Martin]

D


Matt, we need another t-shirt: "I've only met eight serial rapists, child molesters, cannibals and Nazis worse than Rick Olney."


I will do that. Maybe a baby jumper?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Mockey Mockety Mockety Mock (http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/)

:evilsmile

And the hits KEEP COMING!


I would love to see Rick's face! Worst day(s) of his life EVER!

[Dreadstar]

And the hits KEEP COMING!


I would love to see Rick's face! Worst day(s) of his life EVER!

So far...

Filing bankruptcy in lieu of manning up to one's responsibility might be worse.





Oh, who'm I kidding? You'd have to have a conscience for that.

[Sarah Beach]

And some questions:

What happened yesterday? It was implied that Lying Fuck suddenly imploded because "something" happened yesterday. What was it? Tell us tell us tell us tell us.

What did McKeever write? I'd love to see that (grats on your exclusive, btw).

What was the thing Gail was waiting for confirmation on yesterday? Was said confirmation ever received?

JLK
can't wait for opening night so it will finally be over

After going insane on Monday, posting all day, right up till midnight, Orcaflesh stayed silent in posts, but at some point suddenly started panicing, and deleting the content of his posts, replacing text with his silly-ass avatar. Whereupon he got a limited ban, which kept him from deleting anything further on the record.

This, in spite of the fact that several people in recent days have said they were copying the whole of the thread. So the record isn't gone at all, really. But if you want to check it out, in the "Search thread" option, do an advanced search on poster "orcafresh", and you'll see how many posts he did delete. Too bad people not only copied him in other posts, but off the board entirely.

No one has heard for sure, but the suspicion is that the first of legal filings against him was delivered to him yesterday. That and the talk and action of posters here of contacting his local news teams about his fraudulant behaviors.

As for Gail's tid-bit: no, she hasn't returned with that news yet. We need to nudge her on that again.

HEY, GAIL! WHAT was the bit we'll find hilarious?????

(Hope that helps.)

[Jack Zodiac]

"Me... I'm a firm believer in the f*%# me, f*%# you ethic. You can take advantage of me and do all the goofin' you want at my expense. God help you if I ever find you out on it... 'Cause you'll be tired of me ... and I'll just be getting back on my feet all energized to ride you into your grave. Really. "

Hahahahaha! What a douche.

Sun Tzu impresses upon the reader that you should be careful to never give the opponent even the least possible leverage.

I agree completely! I apply "The Art of War" to everything I do in life, especially kicking fuckwads while their down, because if you do, they can't get back up!

Fuck you, Rick, you stupid fuckin' douche!

Mockey Mockety Mockety Mock (http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/)

:evilsmile

Awesome. Our little corner of the world just got bigger and wankier!

I will do that. Maybe a baby jumper?

I'd knock my girlfriend up just so we could make the little bastard wear one!

[KevinTBrown]

I'd knock my girlfriend up just so we could make the little bastard wear one!

Just don't let your wife find out..... ;)

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'd knock my girlfriend up just so we could make the little bastard wear one!

Get busy.

http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin.99892988

http://www.cafepress.com/mattdocmartin.99892987

[Jack Zodiac]

Fuck, I'll wear the bib myself. Then Rick will be useful for at least one thing. Keepin' my shirt clean when I polish off some ribs.

[JTPencils]

YES it was... but when i called the mohawk/utica branch brad said it was the first he heard about it. I give wishlish much credit for the great idea... I just ran with it thats all.

Ronee, I would like to write in to the news department as well, but can't locate the post where you listed the email addresss. Would you mind much reposting that for me? Thanks so much!

[Kozemp]

(Hope that helps.)

That does help, yes.

Though I still want to know what it was McKeever said that was so dangerous it needed to be purged from the interwebs.

JLK
5 hours and counting

[Sarah Beach]

Ronee, I would like to write in to the news department as well, but can't locate the post where you listed the email addresss. Would you mind much reposting that for me? Thanks so much!

From Ronee's column: brad.vivacqua@10newsnow.com

[Calliope's Comics]

Please stop trying to give Colleen a stroke. "Copyright" and "trademark" are not interchangeable terms. They are entirely different things offering entirely different protections for entirely different purposes.

Thank you.

Since I was going to law school to specialize in copyright/trademark law
I will in the future be very clear when I am referring to either copyright or trademark. The WWE tends to usually go for both things on any item, phrase, or wrestler's name, so as to lock up all legal avenues and to guarantee the ability to sell said phrase on shirts, posters, and any other ancilliary merchandise they can think of. As for Ms. Doran, I would never wish any harm to come to her, as the few times I have met her she has been the consumate professional.

And I found this as well:

The distinction between Trademark and Copyright protection is not always clear. Think, for example, of a logo with which you are familiar. The amount of original authorship that goes into a logo can vary greatly. Most of the highly recognizable logos out there are extremely simple objects such as a "swoosh." However, one can imagine a much more ornate logo that includes a great deal of original authorship. Such a logo could possibly qualify for both Trademark and Copyright protection.

[JTPencils]

Just as a caution -- when someone says, in private e-mail:



...I'd think you'd need express permission before making it public. He's identified it as something that's between the two of you, not for the world at large.

kdb

You're absolutely right Kurt, I should have gotten permission first. If there's any hard feelings about me posting that, I do apologize.

[Hybrid2]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=399510#post399510


Quote:
ORCA's had several character representations in several mainstream and indy comics. Notably, SPAWN #46 and The ORCA female character, a jewel thief, in BATMAN DETECTIVE awhile back.

"Orca" is a creature. Because you use the name and someone else does, it does not make it an homage to YOU. I call bullshit!



WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?:eek:

He do seem to try and convince himself that he is sane,a lot.

[JTPencils]

Oh, I have no doubt...except a part about your stuff. You had some talent in there.

What I meant, specifically, is see a book with Rick as the writer, such as Freedom 3.

Trust me, as one of the bunch that was supposed to work on F3... it wasn't going to be a killer book. The only one that would have liked it... is Rick, and perhaps some asylum residents. That's about it. He said he had lined it up to be sold at military PX's all over the world... I think the poor lads and ladies are suffering enough these days... they don't need this to be added.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Does anyone know for a FACT that pRick...I mean, peanut, got served?

Any word on what may have happened to him to provoke his mad tear through history?

[Scott Shaw!]

Well, HERE'S an encouraging little story.

I just returned from my weekly trek into Hollywood to Meltdown Comics And Collectibles, arguably Los Angeles' finest funnybook emporium.

http://www.meltcomics.com/events/archives/00000127.html

Meltdown carries EVERYTHING in the way of comics, toys, magazines, etc. Tons of indy and foreign stuff too; I've never seen another store with the breadth of their stock. And the huge store attracts scores of people in comic books, animation, video games, live action movies and television; just about every aspect of the entertainment industry. Clive Barker and Jack Black are regular customers, for example. (This isn't a commercial, just trying to establish the fact that Meltdown ain't your average comics shop; it's sort of a mecca for those in the know.)

Anyway, I wasn't in the shop more than five minutes before Matt, the savvy young dude behind the counter comments to me, "So how about that Rick Olney?" Now, Matt didn't mention CBR or "Lying In The Gutters" or any particular source (and I forgot to ask him, i was so pleasantly stunned) but he didn't even know about Rick Olney's meltdown on this board. He was, however, extremely well-informed about Tightlip Entertainment's super-scam and was very eager to talk about it. When I told him about some of the nonsense that's been going on here - Olney's meltdown (no pun), the threats, the below-the-belt insuts, the arrogance, the sociopathetic behavior...well, his eyebrows were certainly raised to their limit.

Considering the high-power creative types that pass through Meltdown on any given New Comics Day, it's gonna be like that old commercial spot: "And he told two friends, and she told two friends, and so on and so on and so on."

Like I said, "encouraging".

Aloha,

Scott!

[CitC]

I'm sorry, Krispy Kreme is still the work of the devil I think the same thing about greeting card stores.

[Blake Petit]

I'm sorry, Krispy Kreme is still the work of the devil
I think the same thing about greeting card stores.

For some reason, I read that as "Kristin Kreuk is the work of the devil," and I was thinking, "Okay, the Lana/Lex subplot sucks, but she's not THAT bad..."

[Typo Lad]

Kristin Kreuk looks disturbingly like Tara Patrick.

[NatGertler]

For some reason, I read that as "Kristin Kreuk is the work of the devil,"Well, for better or for worse, Kristin Kreuk is Krispy Kreme!

[wildwill]

I know I'm a newbie, and not famous (well, I'm INFAMOUS anyway in my own little Pojo.com world), but I've read this entire thread, and I just have to add this:

FIGHT (http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Rick+Olney&word2=Gail+Simone)

Oh and I know VBB software pretty well, at the ADMIN level you can turn off permissions individually, meaning an admin can deny Orcafresh the rights to edit/delete his posts.

[JTPencils]

They're links to images from one of Tightlip's own press releases. Anyone could have found them using google. I'm not in any danger for posting them.

If I was to start revealing plot details, dialogue, and other images that weren't readily available to the public, then I'd be on unstable ground.

But I'm positive I'm safe in this case. Thanks for the advice though.

I agree, and since these are directly from the TightLip site, and viewable to the public... as well as being my own work (notice the name at the bottom of the character sheet images)... I don't mind linking them at all.

Sue me Rick, g'head!

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/freedom_3_pinup.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/eagle_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/globe_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/anchor_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/monster-squad-gallery/mummy_character_sheet.jpg

[jesshickman]

I just returned from my weekly trek into Hollywood to Meltdown Comics And Collectibles, arguably Los Angeles' finest funnybook emporium.

Agreed! I loved going there when I lived in CA.

[MacQuarrie]

I agree, and since these are directly from the TightLip site, and viewable to the public... as well as being my own work (notice the name at the bottom of the character sheet images)... I don't mind linking them at all.

Sue me Rick, g'head!

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/freedom_3_pinup.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/eagle_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/globe_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/anchor_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/monster-squad-gallery/mummy_character_sheet.jpg

You made a hell of a silk purse out of the sow's ear he gave you to start from.

I mean, please. A super-team based on the Marines' logo. That's on a level with The Force of July and the Nuclear Family. sheesh.

[wildwill]

Meh, Meltdown is a tad overpriced on everything but comics, but they are USUALLY well stocked. Golden Apple is actually more fun IMO. But then again, Comics Ink is the best shop in town if you're a regular.

[MacQuarrie]

Kristin Kreuk looks disturbingly like Tara Patrick.

I know who Kristin Kreuk is, but who is Tara Patrick?

[JTPencils]

From Ronee's column: brad.vivacqua@10newsnow.com

Thanks much Sarah, email written and sent.

[MacQuarrie]

Since I was going to law school to specialize in copyright/trademark law
I will in the future be very clear when I am referring to either copyright or trademark. The WWE tends to usually go for both things on any item, phrase, or wrestler's name, so as to lock up all legal avenues and to guarantee the ability to sell said phrase on shirts, posters, and any other ancilliary merchandise they can think of. As for Ms. Doran, I would never wish any harm to come to her, as the few times I have met her she has been the consumate professional.

And I found this as well:

The distinction between Trademark and Copyright protection is not always clear. Think, for example, of a logo with which you are familiar. The amount of original authorship that goes into a logo can vary greatly. Most of the highly recognizable logos out there are extremely simple objects such as a "swoosh." However, one can imagine a much more ornate logo that includes a great deal of original authorship. Such a logo could possibly qualify for both Trademark and Copyright protection.
Logo, yes. Name, no.

[Jack Zodiac]

I mean, please. A super-team based on the Marines' logo. That's on a level with The Force of July and the Nuclear Family. sheesh.

Aw, c'mon, man. At least most of Battle for Blüdhaven was being played for its goofiness. Especially the Nuclear Family and their foul-mouthed kid. Rick was probably going to try and make that team something serious and fail fuckin' miserably like he does at everything.

[Typo Lad]

I know who Kristin Kreuk is, but who is Tara Patrick?
Someone you can't google at work.

I guess you could safely look her up on wiki.

And Force of July is Brilliance!

[Jack Zodiac]

That's what the Internet needs. Pornopedia!

[MacQuarrie]

Oh and I know VBB software pretty well, at the ADMIN level you can turn off permissions individually, meaning an admin can deny Orcafresh the rights to edit/delete his posts.
Oh, Ozbat.... Got a minute?

[Sarah Beach]

Well, HERE'S an encouraging little story.

I just returned from my weekly trek into Hollywood to Meltdown Comics And Collectibles, arguably Los Angeles' finest funnybook emporium.

http://www.meltcomics.com/events/archives/00000127.html

Meltdown carries EVERYTHING in the way of comics, toys, magazines, etc. Tons of indy and foreign stuff too; I've never seen another store with the breadth of their stock. And the huge store attracts scores of people in comic books, animation, video games, live action movies and television; just about every aspect of the entertainment industry. Clive Barker and Jack Black are regular customers, for example. (This isn't a commercial, just trying to establish the fact that Meltdown ain't your average comics shop; it's sort of a mecca for those in the know.)

Meltdown, eh? I haven't been there. I'll see your Meltdown and raise you Golden Apple. ;)

Gee.... I tremble at the thought of even venturing to another store! I love the folks at GA. And "we" have our share of celeb customers as well. I've seen Bill Mumy & Robin Williams in the store, just like ordinary folks. And I understand other celebs patronize them too.

But back to topic: I don't know if the GA folks are up on Olney. Ryan & Sharon are great, and do a good job, but ... well, Bill somehow kept on top of everything in the business. (Cripes, I miss him, and I'd only get a chance to chat with him every now and then.) I'm still nudging Ryan to get the store a page on ComicSpace. (Ooops, going off topic again.)

But it's cool to hear that the word is going out.

Oh, and Jim? Cool art there, even if the concept is lame.

[JTPencils]

You made a hell of a silk purse out of the sow's ear he gave you to start from.

I mean, please. A super-team based on the Marines' logo. That's on a level with The Force of July and the Nuclear Family. sheesh.

Thanks Mac, and Sarah, I was giving this a serious best effort... and what did I get in return? Same sham as the other's sadly. Oh well... at least the pic's are purty to look at. Ha!

[Typo Lad]

That's what the Internet needs. Pornopedia!
I only know who she is because a cartoon file I downloaded turned out to be a video of hers. My wife and I clicked it and were like "woah"

Me: Um... er...sorry honey
Her: Wow. Her makeup looks great! Isn't that the girl from smallville? I wonder what mascara she's using...

[MacQuarrie]

Aw, c'mon, man. At least most of Battle for Blüdhaven was being played for its goofiness. Especially the Nuclear Family and their foul-mouthed kid. Rick was probably going to try and make that team something serious and fail fuckin' miserably like he does at everything.

I know nothing of this Battle for Blüdhaven of which you speak. My knowledge of the aforementioned teams comes solely from the horrifically-contrived "Batman and the Outsiders" series from the early '80s.

[Typo Lad]

I only know who she is because a cartoon file I downloaded turned out to be a video of hers. My wife and I clicked it and were like "woah"

Me: Um... er...sorry honey
Her: Wow. Her makeup looks great! Isn't that the girl from smallville? I wonder what mascara she's using...
I patronize everyone.

[Typo Lad]

I know nothing of this Battle for Blüdhaven of which you speak. My knowledge of the aforementioned teams comes solely from the horrifically-contrived "Batman and the Outsiders" series from the early '80s.
Battle for Blüdhaven is like, a love letter to Mike Barr.

[wildwill]

Gee.... I tremble at the thought of even venturing to another store! I love the folks at GA. And "we" have our share of celeb customers as well. I've seen Bill Mumy & Robin Williams in the store, just like ordinary folks. And I understand other celebs patronize them too.


I can name drop too...Abraham Benrubi and Samuel L. Jackson at the GA store on Melrose.

[Scott Shaw!]

Meh, Meltdown is a tad overpriced on everything but comics, but they are USUALLY well stocked. Golden Apple is actually more fun IMO. But then again, Comics Ink is the best shop in town if you're a regular.

You miss my point. I'm not debating which is our favorite comic shop. I was stating Meltdown's importance as a shopping place for Hollywood's top talent in comics and related fields. And they're gonna hear all about Rick Olney and Tightlip Entertainment there.

This means that the word on Olney has reached the street-level. And, with the register clerk at Meltdown eager to chat about Rick Olney's scam as comicdom's latest scandal, a lot of influential customers in various entertainment industries are gonna learn about him.

The word on Rick Olney's scams is now OUT THERE. Why don't you help share the word at Golden Apple (give my love to Sharon and Ryan; I'll make it by their new location soon, I swear) and Comics Ink, too? Keep those ripples of information spreading.

Aloha,

Scott!

[Paul D. Storrie]

Battle for Blüdhaven is like, a love letter to Mike Barr.

So was my use of The New Olympians as the villains of Justice League Unlimited #20. Mr. Barr could be punny, but he's a darn fine writer and I really loved his run on Batman & the Outsiders.

PDS

[Wil Radcliffe]

I agree, and since these are directly from the TightLip site, and viewable to the public... as well as being my own work (notice the name at the bottom of the character sheet images)... I don't mind linking them at all.

Sue me Rick, g'head!

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/freedom_3_pinup.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/eagle_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/globe_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/anchor_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/monster-squad-gallery/mummy_character_sheet.jpg

Outstanding artwork! But the concepts are a bit... uhm... awkward. I mean, Kid Mummy? Great design, but the name reminds me of some of the lame names from the early days of the Legion of Superheroes.

[mroakley]

Just a quick heads up: I finally wrote about the Olney situation on my blog. It's a short post, and if I get any comments and/or questions, I may edit it to be longer. But here ya go:

http://www.revelationproductions.info

And for those of you who follow comic book announcements, I have one in there that may surprise the one person that actually knows me in this thread....

[MacQuarrie]

Thanks Mac, and Sarah, I was giving this a serious best effort... and what did I get in return? Same sham as the other's sadly. Oh well... at least the pic's are purty to look at. Ha!
Hey, I notice he actually acknowledged you in the copyright notice as co-creator. That's good. A little leverage...

You know Olney hasn't a pot to piss in, so you might consider suing for his share of the ownership of the characters. Any competent writer (throw a rock in any direction in this thread, you're likely to hit one) should be able to make these lame concepts work. You might end up with something worth owning. I'll put my money on Monster Squad, but I can see a couple of ways to make Freedom 3 not suck out loud.

[Typo Lad]

So was my use of The New Olympians as the villains of Justice League Unlimited #20. Mr. Barr could be punny, but he's a darn fine writer and I really loved his run on Batman & the Outsiders.


Outsiders is great "leave your brain at the door" fun. If you stop and think about it it's craptastic. Especially Looker.

But GeoForce is the bestest hero ever.

[wildwill]

You miss my point. I'm not debating which is our favorite comic shop. I was stating Meltdown's importance as a shopping place for Hollywood's top talent in comics and related fields. And they're gonna hear all about Rick Olney and Tightlip Entertainment there.

This means that the word on Olney has reached the street-level. And, with the register clerk at Meltdown eager to chat about Rick Olney's scam as comicdom's latest scandal, a lot of influential customers in various entertainment industries are gonna learn about him.

The word on Rick Olney's scams is now OUT THERE. Why don't you help share the word at Golden Apple and Comics Ink, too? Keep those ripples of information spreading.

Aloha,

Scott!

Yup, you're right, I did. Mea culpa.

And if it helps, I did send word of this thread over to Whitney Matheson of USA Today's Pop Candy blog, perhaps it'll get mentioned.

[Sarah Beach]

You miss my point. I'm not debating which is our favorite comic shop. I was stating Meltdown's importance as a shopping place for Hollywood's top talent in comics and related fields. And they're gonna hear all about Rick Olney and Tightlip Entertainment there.

This means that the word on Olney has reached the street-level. And, with the register clerk at Meltdown eager to chat about Rick Olney's scam as comicdom's latest scandal, a lot of influential customers in various entertainment industries are gonna learn about him.

The word on Rick Olney's scams is now OUT THERE. Why don't you help share the word at Golden Apple and Comics Ink, too? Keep those ripples of information spreading.

Aloha,

Scott!

Actually, that is a good point, Scott! Especially since we're making the effort to do a benefit book for those shafted. And other possibilities.

And Lord knows, tales of this thread would make good, fun comic-shop gossip! Heh.

[Papergirl]

Copies sent and delivered to various small press comic companies here in my own area.

Yes, word IS getting out there!

~Bev

[JTPencils]

Outstanding artwork! But the concepts are a bit... uhm... awkward. I mean, Kid Mummy? Great design, but the name reminds me of some of the lame names from the early days of the Legion of Superheroes.

Thanks Will... at least you didn't say it was SuperFriends quality, that would've really hurt. I mean, Wonder Twins? I thought that was a nickname for Wonder Woman's bosom!!!

[JTPencils]

Hey, I notice he actually acknowledged you in the copyright notice as co-creator. That's good. A little leverage...

You know Olney hasn't a pot to piss in, so you might consider suing for his share of the ownership of the characters. Any competent writer (throw a rock in any direction in this thread, you're likely to hit one) should be able to make these lame concepts work. You might end up with something worth owning. I'll put my money on Monster Squad, but I can see a couple of ways to make Freedom 3 not suck out loud.

Well, I didn't have much input on the Monster Squad book, just the design's of a couple of the characters. But yeah, in competent hands, and I am NOT putting Rick in that category, I think even the F3 thing could be viable. At least in that scenario, I have rights to all three characters.

Any takers... let me know.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Just a quick heads up: I finally wrote about the Olney situation on my blog. It's a short post, and if I get any comments and/or questions, I may edit it to be longer. But here ya go:

http://www.revelationproductions.info

And for those of you who follow comic book announcements, I have one in there that may surprise the one person that actually knows me in this thread....

Great blog! I'm glad Rick's nonsense didn't drive you away from comics. Comics needs honest men like you to make up for all the scumbags.

[Kozemp]

Well, I didn't have much input on the Monster Squad book, just the design's of a couple of the characters. But yeah, in competent hands, and I am NOT putting Rick in that category, I think even the F3 thing could be viable. At least in that scenario, I have rights to all three characters.

Any takers... let me know.

Give me the rights to the characters or I will sue you.

After you sign an NDA, of course.

JLK
4 hours

[MacQuarrie]

Well, I didn't have much input on the Monster Squad book, just the design's of a couple of the characters. But yeah, in competent hands, and I am NOT putting Rick in that category, I think even the F3 thing could be viable. At least in that scenario, I have rights to all three characters.

Any takers... let me know.

First you have to pry Dick's greasy fingers off it. That should be fairly easy, especially if you've accepted the possibility of never collecting on any monetary judgments. Accept ownership of the characters and concepts in lieu of part of what he owes you, and then you can run with it. You already own the art half.

[JTPencils]

Give me the rights to the characters or I will sue you.

After you sign an NDA, of course.

JLK
4 hours

*shudder*... please don't tell me you've got the same legal eagle as Rick... it could be a lengthy battle! Ha!

I've decided Rick's not only bipolar, but bilingual. With NDA meaning "No Dinero Arriving"

[mroakley]

Great blog! I'm glad Rick's nonsense didn't drive you away from comics. Comics needs honest men like you to make up for all the scumbags.

Well, it nearly did. But by the time that this Olney debacle surfaced I had already decided to quit. Then all this happened, and I began to see that the creators of the comics are not as..........fractured.........as I had feared, and decided that maybe, just maybe, the third time in the industry would be the charm.

I did work and got screwed by a guy named Pete King, a "Christian" publisher. THen I hooked up with Olney. This time, I dunno, maybe just creator owned stuff of my own or try to break it at a bigger company than just my own pocket book.

And as for me being honest, I didn't used to be honest. I was a shyster for a while, but am now a RECOVERED shyster. heh

[JTPencils]

First you have to pry Dick's greasy fingers off it. That should be fairly easy, especially if you've accepted the possibility of never collecting on any monetary judgments. Accept ownership of the characters and concepts in lieu of part of what he owes you, and then you can run with it. You already own the art half.

True. However this would require me to deal with and listen to Dick rant on and on. It wouldn't be worth the headache. I've been there... done that.

As for owning the art half already, wonder what that allows me to do, if anything with these? I'm just glad he doesn't have the originals... this was all done digitally, files sent back and forth... so... I still have the pencils. Wonder if I could get a quarter for them on Ebay?

[Gail Simone]

For some reason, I read that as "Kristin Kreuk is the work of the devil," and I was thinking, "Okay, the Lana/Lex subplot sucks, but she's not THAT bad..."

Blake, I'm concerned about your book. I think it's pretty clear here (if it wasn't before) that Tightlip is never going to put out anything, ever, anywhere.

Do you have another pub yet?

Gail

[Sarah Beach]

Just a quick heads up: I finally wrote about the Olney situation on my blog. It's a short post, and if I get any comments and/or questions, I may edit it to be longer. But here ya go:

http://www.revelationproductions.info

And for those of you who follow comic book announcements, I have one in there that may surprise the one person that actually knows me in this thread....

(1) Nice blog entry there, Martin! And, gosh, you even behave like a gentleman, unlike someone else we could name.

(2) Glad you're jumping back into the pool! Continue hanging out around here, and we'll help you get the rest of the toxins out of your system! Good luck with that!

(3) I noticed one of your other blog entries, about doing street magic. And immediately thought of a friend of mine who had done much the same back in his youth. He wrote about it some time ago on his site: http://www.myturntorant.com/colemanrants/index.html

You might be amused/interested in his outlook.

Oh, and the Navy SEAL that I mentioned I knew.... that would be Coleman's son.

[Kozemp]

Well, it nearly did. But by the time that this Olney debacle surfaced I had already decided to quit. Then all this happened, and I began to see that the creators of the comics are not as..........fractured.........as I had feared, and decided that maybe, just maybe, the third time in the industry would be the charm.

I did work and got screwed by a guy named Pete King, a "Christian" publisher. THen I hooked up with Olney. This time, I dunno, maybe just creator owned stuff of my own or try to break it at a bigger company than just my own pocket book.

And as for me being honest, I didn't used to be honest. I was a shyster for a while, but am now a RECOVERED shyster. heh

Hey, I'm starting a comic company... want to come do some work for me? You can write about whatever you want, no strings attached. Your page rate is $150 per. There's no money upfront, but I PROMISE you'll get paid in a couple weeks.

Honestly. Promise. Cross my heart.

Promise.

JLK
3.5 hours

[Gail Simone]

I agree, and since these are directly from the TightLip site, and viewable to the public... as well as being my own work (notice the name at the bottom of the character sheet images)... I don't mind linking them at all.

Sue me Rick, g'head!

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/freedom_3_pinup.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/eagle_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/globe_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/anchor_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/monster-squad-gallery/mummy_character_sheet.jpg


That's nice work, Jim. I wouldn't say the concepts are exactly thrilling but the art is very nice!

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Well, I didn't have much input on the Monster Squad book, just the design's of a couple of the characters. But yeah, in competent hands, and I am NOT putting Rick in that category, I think even the F3 thing could be viable. At least in that scenario, I have rights to all three characters.

Any takers... let me know.

Now, from the first moment I saw the art, I felt 'Magnus Grimoire' was a vanity character to represent Rick. A Mary Sue, in other words.

Did he ask you to make the character look a little like him, and was that the 'wise' character that everyone follows in the story?

Just wondering.

Gail

[Wil Radcliffe]

True. However this would require me to deal with and listen to Dick rant on and on. It wouldn't be worth the headache. I've been there... done that.

As for owning the art half already, wonder what that allows me to do, if anything with these? I'm just glad he doesn't have the originals... this was all done digitally, files sent back and forth... so... I still have the pencils. Wonder if I could get a quarter for them on Ebay?

That makes me wonder... what about a benefit auction of the original artwork from Tightlip? It can go towards the owners of the artwork. I mean collectors might be interested based upon not only the quality of the artwork, but on the air of controversy surrounding the company. Anybody know how an auction or two might be set up at the cons? Or, if anything else, the artists can simply put the artwork up themselves on ebay, with various news sites and forums helping to promote their efforts.

[JTPencils]

That's nice work, Jim. I wouldn't say the concepts are exactly thrilling but the art is very nice!

Gail

Why thank you Gail. Though it's nowhere near the level of some of the bigger names that were brought on board later and swindled... I'd like to think it's of a decent enough quality that it would have interested folks... if just to view the artwork alone. Like a multitude of "up and comers" (which some here have been accused of keeping down... sigh)... I'm trying my best to get my work out there to be seen... and then... who knows?

Besides, they say, it's now what ya know, but WHO (or should that be whom? I always confuse that one). Perhaps membership here will help me to direct my efforts in an avenue where I can take on bigger (and hopefully profitable) projects!

The concepts... feh, I had no control over. As I like to say "I just draw's da pictures".

[JTPencils]

Now, from the first moment I saw the art, I felt 'Magnus Grimoire' was a vanity character to represent Rick. A Mary Sue, in other words.

Did he ask you to make the character look a little like him, and was that the 'wise' character that everyone follows in the story?

Just wondering.

Gail

To be honest Gail, I had no hand in the design of Grimoire, but I can assure you it's definitely his Mary Sue. I am real time friends with the artist who DID do that piece, and I know from his conversations with me, that that is the case. And yes, he's the "wise mystical character" who's followed by his gaggle of misunderstood monsters. The "Professor X" of the Monster Squad... was how it was put, as far as his position in the story.

[MacQuarrie]

Besides, they say, it's now what ya know, but WHO (or should that be whom? I always confuse that one).

That one's easy. Who is he and whom is him.

"Who ripped off the artists? He did."

"Whom should they sue? They should sue him."

See?

[Ronée]

Ronee, I would like to write in to the news department as well, but can't locate the post where you listed the email addresss. Would you mind much reposting that for me? Thanks so much!its on my site. www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw right near the top, I cant spell that last name off the top of my head. lol

[Solaris]

That makes me wonder... what about a benefit auction of the original artwork from Tightlip? It can go towards the owners of the artwork. I mean collectors might be interested based upon not only the quality of the artwork, but on the air of controversy surrounding the company. Anybody know how an auction or two might be set up at the cons? Or, if anything else, the artists can simply put the artwork up themselves on ebay, with various news sites and forums helping to promote their efforts.



See the "UNSCREWED!" thread---that idea's being looked into there. :)

[Gail Simone]

To be honest Gail, I had no hand in the design of Grimoire, but I can assure you it's definitely his Mary Sue. I am real time friends with the artist who DID do that piece, and I know from his conversations with me, that that is the case. And yes, he's the "wise mystical character" who's followed by his gaggle of misunderstood monsters. The "Professor X" of the Monster Squad... was how it was put, as far as his position in the story.

Figured. I mean, it was literally the first thought in my head, "This character is obviously Rick's Mary Sue, so he can rewrite himself as a misunderstood wise leader, instead of a weirdo deadbeat."

God god, what a dope.

The whole thing was just a massive sop to his ego.

Gail

[Wil Radcliffe]

See the "UNSCREWED!" thread---that idea's being looked into there. :)

Ah! I thought it was too good an idea for a silly sod like me to have come up with it first! :)

[MacQuarrie]

Figured. I mean, it was literally the first thought in my head, "This character is obviously Rick's Mary Sue, so he can rewrite himself as a misunderstood wise leader, instead of a weirdo deadbeat."

God god, what a dope.

The whole thing was just a massive sop to his ego.

Gail

Step one in fixing the book is dumping the wizard. Put the monsters on their own and make them figure it out without a daddy looking over their shoulder.

[Kurt Busiek]

A super-team based on the Marines' logo. That's on a level with The Force of July and the Nuclear Family. sheesh.

Don't dis the Nuclear Family, dude. Or the Force of July.

Next thing, you'll be ragging on Agent: Orange or the Duke of Oil!

kdb

[Kurt Busiek]

I know nothing of this Battle for Blüdhaven of which you speak. My knowledge of the aforementioned teams comes solely from the horrifically-contrived "Batman and the Outsiders" series from the early '80s.

DC's best team-book of the era?

I'm warning you, man...

kdb

[MacQuarrie]

Don't dis the Nuclear Family, dude. Or the Force of July.

Next thing, you'll be ragging on Agent: Orange or the Duke of Oil!

kdb
Come on, you know you winced when you read their names the first time. Granted, execution is everything, and even the lamest concept can be turned into gold, but it does help if you're not starting with such an obvious contrivance.

For the record, I liked what Barr & Aparo did with them in the book, but the names were painful.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Step one in fixing the book is dumping the wizard. Put the monsters on their own and make them figure it out without a daddy looking over their shoulder.

Or have the wizard betray the monsters, threaten to sue them if they complain to anyone about it, then leave town. The series can then follow the monsters as they attempt to extract justice from the wizard's oily hide.

[MacQuarrie]

Or have the wizard betray the monsters, threaten to sue them if they complain to anyone about it, then leave town. The series can then follow the monsters as they attempt to extract justice from the wizard's oily hide.

JT, here's your writer!

[MacQuarrie]

DC's best team-book of the era?

I'm warning you, man...

kdb

I LOVED Batman & the Outsiders! I'm just not going to lie about the obvious dorkiness that permeated it.

Now, imagine those stories told in a painfully serious manner by a hack, and you'll see that you're reading Freedom 3.

[Gail Simone]

I'm amazed he didn't create THE JUSTICE LEAGUE OF OLNEY!

Gail

[Kurt Busiek]

Outsiders is great "leave your brain at the door" fun. If you stop and think about it it's craptastic. Especially Looker.

Bah.

Looker was some pretty sharp character writing. If it was "leave your brain" shallow, then we wouldn't have had that thread about her delighting in her new look while her husband missed the woman he'd fallen in love with.

Plus, dude - Abyssians!

kdb

[TomWaltz]

That's nice work, Jim. I wouldn't say the concepts are exactly thrilling but the art is very nice!

Gail

I agree with Gail -- that is nice work, Jim.

Tom Waltz

[JTPencils]

JT, here's your writer!

Mac, I hear ya, I guess the old adage is correct... "Write what ya know".

Now we just have to line up the rest of the creative team, and we're off!!!

[JTPencils]

its on my site. www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw right near the top, I cant spell that last name off the top of my head. lol

Thanks much Ronee, the email has been written and sent. Poor guy's gonna think there's a convention in town of "Geeks United" or something.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I know I always persued Brave & the Bold #200 with a passion for more than 2 years back issue wise. I finally found it at a fleak market in great shape....shockingly. ;)

[Wil Radcliffe]

I'm amazed he didn't create THE JUSTICE LEAGUE OF OLNEY!

Gail

Super-schyster

Bat-head

Wonder Where My Money Is

Aqua-phobic

Green Loser

Flush

Martian Womanhater

Atom-brain

[Kurt Busiek]

Come on, you know you winced when you read their names the first time.

No, I laughed. They were great.

Granted, execution is everything, and even the lamest concept can be turned into gold, but it does help if you're not starting with such an obvious contrivance.

No, no, no. The names are part & parcel of the characters. They were obviously the essential starting point, not an add-on. They're goofy. They're whimsical. They're on-the-nail blunt.

That's what makes them fun.

kdb

[Sarah Beach]

This feels like half time at a football bowl game. Like we're waiting for something.

A shoe to drop or something.

And really.... I do feel like "something's going to happen."

Curious.

[PatrickG]

Okay... Here's my offer. I wish I could offer tons of cash and work with you all.

Anyone screwed by Rick Olney who has a completed project they want to pursue elsewhere...

I suggest you submit to Image and Dark Horse.

- If you don't, I will put together a publishing imprint for you.

- I will get you a website and cover hosting for at least one year.

- I will format and submit your work to a print-on-demand publisher, which I will pay the setup fees for.

- You will receive 100% of any profit. I will not draw any money from the product; the only thing I ask is ownership of the imprint/label -- the logo at the top left corner of the cover. You retain all rights including the right to publish or submit elsewhere and I will put together a standard agreement which gives me "first printing" rights, which will not exclude you from being printed elsewhere.

- Any post production work I do on your behalf (logos/cover formatting/lettering/color flatting -- sorry, I'm really not good enough to do more than these four) will be something that I will solicit your feedback on and the feedback of any professional cartoonist, comic book personality or graphic artist here who is willing.

- I am aware of my inexperience in these areas and I will revise or rework these elements to your satisfaction.

- I will handle promoting your work through any comic book newsites or blogs willing to run the story, if you want.

I'm probably not offering anything you folks can't do yourselves and I'm not promising a timeline upfront.

However, I'm willing to devote my services in these areas if you have completed work that you want to see printed and promoted to generate SOME income and response.

Image or Dark Horse would be better options. But my offer stands good for anyone who was affected by this who doesn't want to devote more time into work already completed for which you are asserting legal ownership over.

PM me or e-mail me at patrick.gerard@gmail.com and I will do anything in my power to help.

[MacQuarrie]

No, I laughed. They were great.



No, no, no. The names are part & parcel of the characters. They were obviously the essential starting point, not an add-on. They're goofy. They're whimsical. They're on-the-nail blunt.

That's what makes them fun.

kdb

Right. But what happens if you play them devoid of fun or whimsy?

[singoalla]

Originally Posted by MacQuarrie
I know nothing of this Battle for Blüdhaven of which you speak. My knowledge of the aforementioned teams comes solely from the horrifically-contrived "Batman and the Outsiders" series from the early '80s.

Battle For Blüdhaven was a mini series following Infinite Crisis were some baddies dropped some sort of bio-warfare/nuclear device on Bludhaven. No good came of it, and well, I can't recall most of it, but while it wasn't bad I can't say it was... good. (sorry to whoever wrote it! Not my cuppa!)

But no ragging on Batman and the outsiders! 'Twas brilliant! And such lovely 80's fun.

[PatrickG]

And, y'know... I forgot about the Unscrewed book.

Honestly, you're better off going there.

My offer stands for anything which you can assert full ownership of... But I probably just wasted my breath with that offer.

Apologies for getting carried away.

[Kurt Busiek]

Right. But what happens if you play them devoid of fun or whimsy?

Same thing that happens to Mister Tawky Tawny.

That doesn't make him a bad character, or badly named.

kdb

[Corrina]

Well, for better or for worse, Kristin Kreuk is Krispy Kreme!


There's a Krispy Kreme sex scene in Jennifer Crusie's "Bet Me."

If, uh, anyone is interested.

[Matt Doc Martin]

So no confirmed word yet on peanut's, And I do mean NUT, status?

[MacQuarrie]

Same thing that happens to Mister Tawky Tawny.

That doesn't make him a bad character, or badly named.

kdb

I concede the point. I should not have maligned Mike W. Barr's great comics work in what was one of my favorite comics of the time by my unfair comparison to this hackneyed contrivance.

And I love Tawky Tawny, too. And Mister Mind! I wish we could still have goofy fun comics like those. In fact, I'm actually working on creating one. It has a talking dog. And rampaging garden gnomes. Fun is good. Whimsy is good. Painful puns are good.

Do you forgive me?

[Paul Newell]

It's also not consistent -- when the Houston Astros sent me a letter challenging my trademark on ASTRO CITY, we sent them back a letter politely inviting them to bite us, and they went away, because they knew they had no real grounds for the challenge, and weren't willing to try anything more than the letter.
Your lawyer has a way with the legal jargon.

[Sarah Beach]

So no confirmed word yet on peanut's, And I do mean NUT, status?

Nothing so far.

I was told on Monday that he'd been posting in yahoo groups. Anyone venture there? I don't, so I wouldn't know where to look.

[Jack Zodiac]

No, no, no. The names are part & parcel of the characters. They were obviously the essential starting point, not an add-on. They're goofy. They're whimsical. They're on-the-nail blunt.

That's what makes them fun.

And made reading that horrible piece of crap Battle for Blüdhaven worth it.

Right. But what happens if you play them devoid of fun or whimsy?

Something akin to Trials of Shazam? :p

Alright, kids! I'm off to work! Don't hit 5,000 posts without me! :mad:

[CitC]

I was wondering. I googled "Rik Olney Comics in the classroom" and even though i immediatley removed his copyright info (even if he was on the up and up with me I have yet to see any doccumentation) I still get this:

COMICS IN THE CLASSROOM: a comic site for teachers, parents and ...
Comics In The Classroom Turns One! ! It has been a long year, ... Comics in the Classroom copyright (c) 2006 Rick Olney and TightLip Entertainment. ...

Anyone know how long it takes stuff like that to work throught the system?

[Jack Zodiac]

And I love Tawky Tawny, too. And Mister Mind! I wish we could still have goofy fun comics like those.

It was a long time comin', but Jeff Smith finally finished his Monster Society of Evil book, so hope is on the horizon in February!

Alright, now I'm really outta' here.

[Gail Simone]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TightLipEntertainment/

But of course, he once again shows his cowardice, by making it members only.

Gail

[Wil Radcliffe]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TightLipEntertainment/

But of course, he once again shows his cowardice, by making it members only.

Gail

Only 24 members though, and no activity in the last 7 days. Seems pretty dead in there.

[Solaris]

I was wondering. I googled "Rik Olney Comics in the classroom" and even though i immediatley removed his copyright info (even if he was on the up and up with me I have yet to see any doccumentation) I still get this:

COMICS IN THE CLASSROOM: a comic site for teachers, parents and ...
Comics In The Classroom Turns One! ! It has been a long year, ... Comics in the Classroom copyright (c) 2006 Rick Olney and TightLip Entertainment. ...

Anyone know how long it takes stuff like that to work throught the system?

I have no clue... but a random guess would be that you *might* have to resubmit your listing with Google and Yahoo? I don't know, hopefully some one will.

[CitC]

And I love Tawky Tawny, too. And Mister Mind! I wish we could still have goofy fun comics like those. There are still some out there - and some are for the youger crowd. Emily Edison was goofy fun.

[MacQuarrie]

I was wondering. I googled "Rik Olney Comics in the classroom" and even though i immediatley removed his copyright info (even if he was on the up and up with me I have yet to see any doccumentation) I still get this:

COMICS IN THE CLASSROOM: a comic site for teachers, parents and ...
Comics In The Classroom Turns One! ! It has been a long year, ... Comics in the Classroom copyright (c) 2006 Rick Olney and TightLip Entertainment. ...

Anyone know how long it takes stuff like that to work throught the system?

I'd have to go check some of the webmasters' resources sites, but I think there's a way to resubmit the site to Google and have them recache it.

By the way, I'm forwarding your site to my wife's work e-mail; she works for an online "virtual" public school, and I'm sure she'll find it interesting.

[MacQuarrie]

*rassin-frassin-double-post*

[EdContradictory]

I have no clue... but a random guess would be that you *might* have to resubmit your listing with Google and Yahoo? I don't know, hopefully some one will.
It's saved in Google's database. I think it will update eventually.

[EdContradictory]

I have no clue... but a random guess would be that you *might* have to resubmit your listing with Google and Yahoo? I don't know, hopefully some one will.
It's saved in Google's database. I think it will update eventually.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Only 24 members though, and no activity in the last 7 days. Seems pretty dead in there.
I just clicked on the link...it's not there anymore. It looks like he's trying to cover as much of his tracks as he can.

JP

[Sarah Beach]

I just clicked on the link...it's not there anymore. It looks like he's trying to cover as much of his tracks as he can.

JP

Wow, that was fast, because I was looking at the front page of the group just 5 or so minutes ago. Not only had there not been any activity in the last 7 days, the annual chart showed that there hadn't been any activity since July of last year.

My guess? He's sitting on this thread, lurking. Because he can't help himself.

Hey, peanut! :p :p :p

[Kurt Busiek]

I wish we could still have goofy fun comics like those. In fact, I'm actually working on creating one. It has a talking dog. And rampaging garden gnomes.

Cool. Rampaging garden gnomes sound like something comics need badly.

Fun is good. Whimsy is good. Painful puns are good. Do you forgive me?

As soon as you sign this NDA I won't send. Nice try, though.

kdb

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I just clicked on the link...it's not there anymore. It looks like he's trying to cover as much of his tracks as he can.

JP

Damn now that was freakin FAST. He is moving fast to cover all the bases. Rick if your out there Ozbat has told ya to use your other handle and come back in to post.

[Gail Simone]

Doesn't matter, we're saving all the good stuff.

What his little sad clubs with three members and no posts say isn't that big a deal.

Gail

[wildwill]

Well, he may very well be sitting and reading this, only the mods/admins know for sure. You can use the VBB control panel to look up his IP address, then use it to see if he has any sock puppets. Additionally, mods/admins can see exactly what every user is doing, and the list includes IP addresses. So unless he's smart enough to figure out how to change his IP address (and I seriously doubt that) you should be able to find him.

EVEN if he's viewing as a guest. Guest IPs show up as well.

[Sarah Beach]

Damn now that was freakin FAST. He is moving fast to cover all the bases. Rick if your out there Ozbat has told ya to use your other handle and come back in to post.

LOL... I just had a fun thought. We could send him scrurrying all over the internet by posting links to blogs and such and saying "Check this out! They're talking about Olney here!"

But of course, now that I've mentioned that in public, where he's lurking... he probably wouldn't jump. Maybe.

It's a tempting thought, isn't it? Heh.

[Gail Simone]

He's been busted for sock puppetry before, famously.

But he doesn't NEED to be a sock puppet. He's free to come back and answer his many many accusers with his usual lame-oid, poorly worded barkslobber.

He just can't do it under his old name.

Gail

[Sarah Beach]

He's been busted for sock puppetry before, famously.

But he doesn't NEED to be a sock puppet. He's free to come back and answer his many many accusers with his usual lame-oid, poorly worded barkslobber.

He just can't do it under his old name.

Gail

"Barkslobber"!!!! Oh, I love that. Fun word.

[Josh Simon]

It's pretty slow for a Wednesday so I figured I'd check in over here. What's going on?

[DangerDiabolik]

This thread is crack, and i cant keep up anymore.....

[Gail Simone]

This thread is crack, and i cant keep up anymore.....

You CAN and you WILL.

Gail, will tolerate nothing less

[Sarah Beach]

(Dang! I should be working!):p

So, Gail. Anything further on that information you were waiting on email confirmation of? I'm hooked and waiting. Especially for something amusing.

[Lester C.]

It's pretty slow for a Wednesday so I figured I'd check in over here. What's going on?

A valuable lesson in how our choices consequences and how we chose the accept the responsibility for those choices and consequences go on to shape the world around us and all those that have the pleasure or in Rick's case displeasure of being touched by directly or indirectly by our actions.

[MacQuarrie]

A valuable lesson in how our choices consequences and how we chose the accept the responsibility for those choices and consequences go on to shape the world around us and all those that have the pleasure or in Rick's case displeasure of being touched by directly or indirectly by our actions.

I'm reminded of something I read a long time ago, I think it was C.S. Lewis... The idea is that there are layers of laws, and if you don't obey the easy ones, you will be forced to answer to the hard ones. At the top are principles, which are fairly simple. If you violate them, you move to more firm laws with harsher penalties.

The example he gave was If you don't obey the principle of caution, you will be forced to obey the law of gravity.

At any time in this whole fiasco, Olney could have chosen to obey simple principles of honesty and common decency. He didn't. He chose to move to the rocky terrain of the law.

The man is a walking sermon.

[Scott Shaw!]

Next thing, you'll be ragging on Agent: Orange or the Duke of Oil!
kdb

AGENT: ORANGE!?! That was by my cartoonist/letterer buddy Dandy Dan (THE CONSERVATION CORPS) Nakrosis! Talk about obscure! Once again, Kurt, I'm impressed with your vast knowledge of...er...Oddball Comics!

Aloha,

Scott!

P.S.: Hey, speaking of wince-worthy names for heroes, how about my "Urban Gorilla" from AMUSING STORIES? -- SS!

[amboy00]

And that is what has made me feel like the biggest chump.

And the Bridges Program was the curriculum Crossgen produced to go with some of its titles

Posting a copyright notice on your works does not in it of itself declare something is copyright protected. What is important is that you file your copy with the Library of Congress for a legal copyright.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

This thread is crack, and i cant keep up anymore.....

Purple crack to be exact. It's almost hypnotic actually.

JP

[amboy00]

No, wrong. The notice on Newsarama is saying that Newsarama holds copyright in the website, not in the name.

...

Now, if Rick claimed to have a trademark, he might possibly have a case. It would depend on what category he had that trademark in, whether he maintained that trademark, how generic the term was to the usage at hand, and so forth.

But if he told you that he had a copyright and thus you couldn't use it without his permission, then he misled you, and used you poorly.

You can claim a trademark with a TM for the effort of trying to establish a brand name but you will still need to get it registered. Comics in the Classroom sounds more like it would be an SM rather than a TM type of mark however.

[KevinTBrown]

I agree, and since these are directly from the TightLip site, and viewable to the public... as well as being my own work (notice the name at the bottom of the character sheet images)... I don't mind linking them at all.

Sue me Rick, g'head!

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/freedom_3_pinup.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/eagle_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/globe_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/freedom-3-gallery/anchor_character_sheet.jpg

http://tightlipentertainment.com/img_gallery/monster-squad-gallery/mummy_character_sheet.jpg
Jim, that's some great stuff..... DC desperately NEEDS you on Hawkgirl!!!


Buuuuuuuuuuut.... (And I hope you're not the one who designed the characters) the Globe is a dead rip-off, in looks at least, of Blok (from the Legion of Super-Heroes), even down to the pants only costume that he originally had....

Once I find a picture of it, I'll post it.


Found it!

http://www.lightninglad.com/art/wallpaper/legion300.jpg

[MacQuarrie]

Posting a copyright notice on your works does not in it of itself declare something is copyright protected. What is important is that you file your copy with the Library of Congress for a legal copyright.

No, but it does establish a prior claim. Since 1978, works are considered to be protected from the moment of creation, and registration is not necessary to secure one's rights. It's just a whole lot easier if the work is registered.

[amboy00]

No, but it does establish a prior claim. Since 1978, works are considered to be protected from the moment of creation, and registration is not necessary to secure one's rights. It's just a whole lot easier if the work is registered.
You are correct.

This could easily boil down to a dispute of ownership. Get it filed! :-)

[TheWraith]

Yes, it's not necessary to lodge copyrights. You can easily prove your righs without registration. The same goes for trademarks, but I do suggest you register your trademarks all the same.

[OzBat!]

From that newsarama quote (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=399510#post399510): I'm presently the part owner of a small entertainment company name of TightLip Entertainment.hang on a sec. "part owner"?? Who the heck is the poor sap holding up the other side of this disaster? Do they need to be included in any and all legal proceedings?

[OzBat!]

Why take the chance? Seriously, why even present a straw to grasp?

Sun Tzu impresses upon the reader that you should be careful to never give the opponent even the least possible leverage.As Sun Tzu is clearly helping all those violating his NDA's and guilty of Libel against his company, Mr Olney is going to sue him too.

[Sarah Beach]

From that newsarama quote (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=399510#post399510): hang on a sec. "part owner"?? Who the heck is the poor sap holding up the other side of this disaster? Do they need to be included in any and all legal proceedings?

Who knows.

Jim, you might want to copy those images to your own hard drive. The front page for the website is no longer accessible on the net, and who knows what else he's going to eliminate.

(I'm sorry! I find it ironically hilarious! Erasing himself, as if that would unmake all the havok and poison he has spread about.)

[CitC]

Okay. I'm going to act dumb for a sec, but only because I haven't had time to scour all of the comments about copyright that I saved from last night.

What would the copyright cover? The written work on the site? What else? The name can't be copyrighted, The banner and logo would need to be trademarked (or the other one, SM?), which as I found out is way out of my price range for a doodled superguy and a (pretty cool :) ) banner.

Again, I haven't been able to study this yet, but the ideas I have can't really be copyrighted, anymore than a guy with a cape that flies can be.

I can hear the groans and people yelling at the screan for me to pay attention.

[Sarah Beach]

As Sun Tzu is clearly helping all those violating his NDA's and guilty of Libel against his company, Mr Olney is going to sue him too.

Mr Olney has to find Sun Tzu first! :evilsmile

[Sarah Beach]

Okay. I'm going to act dumb for a sec, but only because I haven't had time to scour all of the comments about copyright that I saved from last night.

What would the copyright cover? The written work on the site? What else? The name can't be copyrighted, The banner and logo would need to be trademarked (or the other one, SM?), which as I found out is way out of my price range for a doodled superguy and a (pretty cool :) ) banner.

Again, I haven't been able to study this yet, but the ideas I have can't really be copyrighted, anymore than a guy with a cape that flies can be.

I can hear the groans and people yelling at the screan for me to pay attention.

Not to worry. It is complicated stuff. Copyright would cover content you would publish -- that is written text, and specific illustrations & art you might "publish" (in print or on the web).

If it all were a can of soup, the Trademark would protect the look of your label (including standard text you use on the label). The Copyright would protect the contents of your can.

(Hmmmm. Maybe a bad analogy. But I hope you get the idea.)

[MacQuarrie]

From that newsarama quote (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=399510#post399510): hang on a sec. "part owner"?? Who the heck is the poor sap holding up the other side of this disaster? Do they need to be included in any and all legal proceedings?

My guess is they don't exist. We did the same thing at Monkey Spit. Had a fictional owner that we had to answer to; that way we could blame him for anything anybody didn't like. Difference is we didn't take anybody's money.

[NatGertler]

Posting a copyright notice on your works does not in it of itself declare something is copyright protected. What is important is that you file your copy with the Library of Congress for a legal copyright.Actually, he has a legal copyright whether or not it has a notice and whether or not it is registered. That's not to say that registration doesn't have its advantages -- it certainly does. But copyright is invested in the material from the moment it is placed on a fixed medium.

[i_mmmchocolate]

This is the thread that never ends! Yes, it goes on and on my friends! Some people started posting, not knowing what it was, and they'll continue to posting now forever just because this is the thread that never ends...

[kadymae]

Posting a copyright notice on your works does not in it of itself declare something is copyright protected. What is important is that you file your copy with the Library of Congress for a legal copyright.

LoC makes it adamantium clad. Posting a Copyright notice is ... stainless steel. Hard enough to break that a shitweasle won't try.

[CitC]

Not to worry. It is complicated stuff. Copyright would cover content you would publish -- that is written text, and specific illustrations & art you might "publish" (in print or on the web).

If it all were a can of soup, the Trademark would protect the look of your label (including standard text you use on the label). The Copyright would protect the contents of your can.

(Hmmmm. Maybe a bad analogy. But I hope you get the idea.)


See, then I'm not sure I should be worried then. I think I have some pretty good ideas and maybe I make a good joke here and there (although I think the ratio of good to lame is 1:8), but I'm not a great writer and I'm not sure anyone would want to steal my articles (but I do have a couple other people doing stuff for me - what protects them?). I can't ( C ) an idea, right? If I say on my site that I think the Flight Anthologies should take all of the apropriate stories and make a single Flight Jr anthology aimed at 9-12 yr olds (which I did say already), and the guys at Flight make that book, I can't sue.

I would like to hang on to the 2 images though. You say that would be a ( C )?

[MacQuarrie]

Okay. I'm going to act dumb for a sec, but only because I haven't had time to scour all of the comments about copyright that I saved from last night.

What would the copyright cover? The written work on the site? What else? The name can't be copyrighted, The banner and logo would need to be trademarked (or the other one, SM?), which as I found out is way out of my price range for a doodled superguy and a (pretty cool :) ) banner.

Again, I haven't been able to study this yet, but the ideas I have can't really be copyrighted, anymore than a guy with a cape that flies can be.

I can hear the groans and people yelling at the screan for me to pay attention.

If it were me, I'd pony up to file copyright registration on anything you've written or designed. The only reason I'd do that is because there was a period of time in which the copyright was erroneously attributed to the slimebucket. Fortunately he's going to be a little too busy now, so it's unlikely he'll try to poach it out from under you.

The banner and logo can be copyrighted as works of art and trademarked as well.

You'll want copyright registration for the site as a whole, for the logo (the banner is probably not crucial), and for any major articles that you've written. You could just copyright the site as a whole, but it might be better to get additional protection for anything you think someone might steal.

Of course, then you have to pay attention and look for people stealing from you. The odds of anyone turning somebody in for copyright infringement are pretty slim.

Good luck.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Mockey Mockety Mockety Mock (http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1043396.html)

:evilsmile

I love this quote, from the comments on that article, re: Orcabreath:
Why has nobody crushed his gonads for him yet? He's like the platonic ideal of a fuckwit.

[NatGertler]

You can claim a trademark with a TM for the effort of trying to establish a brand name but you will still need to get it registered.Sorry, but that's false, at least in the US.

From the US Patent and Trademark Office website (http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/tac/doc/basic/register.htm):

Is registration of my mark required?

No. You can establish rights in a mark based on legitimate use of the mark.

[OzBat!]

Oh, Ozbat.... Got a minute?Trying to convince the admins to make this change now.

[MacQuarrie]

See, then I'm not sure I should be worried then. I think I have some pretty good ideas and maybe I make a good joke here and there (although I think the ratio of good to lame is 1:8), but I'm not a great writer and I'm not sure anyone would want to steal my articles (but I do have a couple other people doing stuff for me - what protects them?).
Depends. Does your agreement with them stipulate that they own copyright on their work? If so, then protecting it is up to them. If your agreement with them doesn't stipulate who owns what, it's presumed to belong to them, and again, protection is their problem.

I can't ( C ) an idea, right? If I say on my site that I think the Flight Anthologies should take all of the apropriate stories and make a single Flight Jr anthology aimed at 9-12 yr olds (which I did say already), and the guys at Flight make that book, I can't sue.
Right. Now, if you sat down and wrote out a summary of a plot for a story and somebody wrote that story, you could try to sue, since your summary is a fixed representation of an idea, and therefore protected work.

I would like to hang on to the 2 images though. You say that would be a ( C )?
I'd put both a © and ™ on them. Claim them as copyrighted original art AND as trademarks for your site.

[mike627]

My take on this:I was reading this thread last night and wow y'all,Onley is a total scumbag but what I wonder about is when Gail and the others sue this jobber Im willing to bet that nothing in his suposed company is under his name, it's all under his wife's so what little assests he has don't really belong to him.

[CitC]

But copyright is invested in the material from the moment it is placed on a fixed medium. So by this, publication = copryright. So, if Mike Bullock wrote an article on my site with his name clearly visible, but my ( C ) notice is on the bottom of the page, Mike would still have the copyright.

[CitC]

Im willing to bet that nothing in his suposed company is under his name, it's all under his wife's so what little assests he has don't really belong to him.I've proven here that I know nothing about law, but he had this affixed to the bottom of my site:

Comics in the Classroom copyright (c) 2006 Rick Olney and TightLip Entertainment

That implies that he is claiming ownership of the company to me.

[MacQuarrie]

So by this, publication = copryright. So, if Mike Bullock wrote an article on my site with his name clearly visible, but my ( C ) notice is on the bottom of the page, Mike would still have the copyright.
Legally, yes. If you wanted to be a slimeball and steal his work, the (c) would give you a bit of a toehold for that.

To be protective of yourself and your contributors, you might amend your copyright notice to say something like this:

The prior copyright notice was in error. The correct copyright notification is Comics in the Classroom, (C) Scott Tingley 2007 All rights reserved. All articles are (c) by their respective authors and used here by permission, unless otherwise noted.
Comics in the Classroom and the Comics in the Classroom logo are trademarks TM of Scott Tingley 2007

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

I've proven here that I know nothing about law, but he had this affixed to the bottom of my site:

Comics in the Classroom copyright (c) 2006 Rick Olney and TightLip Entertainment

That implies that he is claiming ownership of the company to me.

I think he was trying to swindle you out of something good you've done. It's still yours though. He can't just say otherwise. If he ever were to come after you though, make sure you've dated everything you've done. He'd have the appearance of some legality if he's ever copied and printed the page. It's a good backup if you ever have to prove something is yours.

Man...talk about taking advantage of someone's innocence...he should be ashamed of himself. I really don't know how much lower he can sink.

JP

[Gail Simone]

My take on this:I was reading this thread last night and wow y'all,Onley is a total scumbag but what I wonder about is when Gail and the others sue this jobber Im willing to bet that nothing in his suposed company is under his name, it's all under his wife's so what little assests he has don't really belong to him.

That sounds very plausible to me.

Which, if it's the case, is further evidence that he never intended to pay anyone.

Gail

[MacQuarrie]

I think he was trying to swindle you out of something good you've done. It's still yours though. He can't just say otherwise.

Man...talk about taking advantage of someone's innocence...he should be ashamed of himself. I really don't know how much lower he can sink.

JP

Rick Olney, swindle somebody? That's unpossible.

[MacQuarrie]

That sounds very plausible to me.

Which, if it's the case, is further evidence that he never intended to pay anyone.

Gail

Judges have gotten pretty good at seeing through that particular gambit in the last couple of decades. Like his NDA, it may not provide the protection he thinks it does. It may not provide the same protection as a lace condom.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Rick Olney, swindle somebody? That's unpossible. I know...who'd have thunk it? Oh wait...

JP

[AIPman1]

Okay... Here's my offer. I wish I could offer tons of cash and work with you all.

Anyone screwed by Rick Olney who has a completed project they want to pursue elsewhere...

I suggest you submit to Image and Dark Horse.

- If you don't, I will put together a publishing imprint for you.

- I will get you a website and cover hosting for at least one year.

- I will format and submit your work to a print-on-demand publisher, which I will pay the setup fees for.

- You will receive 100% of any profit. I will not draw any money from the product; the only thing I ask is ownership of the imprint/label -- the logo at the top left corner of the cover. You retain all rights including the right to publish or submit elsewhere and I will put together a standard agreement which gives me "first printing" rights, which will not exclude you from being printed elsewhere.

- Any post production work I do on your behalf (logos/cover formatting/lettering/color flatting -- sorry, I'm really not good enough to do more than these four) will be something that I will solicit your feedback on and the feedback of any professional cartoonist, comic book personality or graphic artist here who is willing.

- I am aware of my inexperience in these areas and I will revise or rework these elements to your satisfaction.

- I will handle promoting your work through any comic book newsites or blogs willing to run the story, if you want.

I'm probably not offering anything you folks can't do yourselves and I'm not promising a timeline upfront.

However, I'm willing to devote my services in these areas if you have completed work that you want to see printed and promoted to generate SOME income and response.

Image or Dark Horse would be better options. But my offer stands good for anyone who was affected by this who doesn't want to devote more time into work already completed for which you are asserting legal ownership over.

PM me or e-mail me at patrick.gerard@gmail.com and I will do anything in my power to help.

Dimestore's Co-Brand Imprint system, affords all of the above, plus you get to put YOUR studio name in the co-brand box on the top left, and there's no set up fees. We're aimed more at new people than people ready for Dark Horse or Image, though...

Not poo-pooing the idea...just sayin...Anyone wanting to go that route would have to apply to be a member of the co-brand...and be voted in by the other current members.

[Kurt Busiek]

AGENT: ORANGE!?! That was by my cartoonist/letterer buddy Dandy Dan (THE CONSERVATION CORPS) Nakrosis! Talk about obscure! Once again, Kurt, I'm impressed with your vast knowledge of...er...Oddball Comics!

I'm not quite that knowledgable, sir -- Agent: Orange was also an early BATMAN AND THE OUTSIDERS villain...

Hey, speaking of wince-worthy names for heroes, how about my "Urban Gorilla" from AMUSING STORIES?

It's a fine name! I actually had (had) a great-uncle named Urban Justice Busiek, who was a pediatrician in St. Louis. With a name like that, he really shoulda fought crime.

kdb
co-creator of the phone ranger!

[Blake Petit]

Urban Justice? Wasn't that a 90s comic?

[MacQuarrie]

I've proven here that I know nothing about law, but he had this affixed to the bottom of my site:

Comics in the Classroom copyright (c) 2006 Rick Olney and TightLip Entertainment

That implies that he is claiming ownership of the company to me.
By the way, who owns the comicsintheclassroom.com and .org domains?

never mind, I looked it up.

comicsintheclassroom.com is owned by Diamond. I wonder why?

comicsintheclassroom.org is available. You should grab it. You can register it at www.domainsarefree.com for $3.99/year.

[NatGertler]

So by this, publication = copryright. So, if Mike Bullock wrote an article on my site with his name clearly visible, but my ( C ) notice is on the bottom of the page, Mike would still have the copyright.Unless Mike was an employee of yours (not a freelancer), or some other arrangement had been reached specifically handing the copyright over to you, yes.
You may have copyright in the design of the page, however.

Since 1989, the copyright notice hasn't been needed in the U.S.... which doesn't mean that it isn't still useful. It lets people know that you consider the material worthy of protection, and gives them an indication of who they should contact if they're looking to reproduce the material.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

So now he's removed Tightlip off the face of the internet ? Wow...this story keeps right on a rollin . I wonder if someone made a copy of it as well ? ;)

[Gail Simone]

I don't think I have any pun named characters.

WHEW!

:)

Gail

[Sarah Beach]

Legally, yes. If you wanted to be a slimeball and steal his work, the (c) would give you a bit of a toehold for that.

To be protective of yourself and your contributors, you might amend your copyright notice to say something like this:

The prior copyright notice was in error. The correct copyright notification is Comics in the Classroom, (C) Scott Tingley 2007 All rights reserved. All articles are (c) by their respective authors and used here by permission, unless otherwise noted.
Comics in the Classroom and the Comics in the Classroom logo are trademarks TM of Scott Tingley 2007

MacQuarrie's suggestion is good here.

Another would be that you copyright everything, and add the notice that it is copyright of first publication, and that all other rights revert to the individual authors.

That would allow the various writers to collect their work and publish it elsewhere if they wished. It's what I've been doing with my old columns from Mythlore. But since I'm also doing a bit of revision of them when I put them on the web, they're not exactly as they were when first published. So, I just give them a current copyright notice.

By the way, don't make yourself too anxious. From the sound of it, you're getting it together, and not likely to be in any "danger" from poaching. Plus, I'd assume that you have folks on your end who are, basically, witnesses to the things you have done, that the authors are the authors, the artists are the artists, and none of them connected to Olney at all. Those are things not to be overlooked. It doesn't ride only on the protection of the symbol.

[CitC]

All articles are (c) by their respective authors and used here by permission, unless otherwise noted.

I will add that to future articles and emailk anyone that has written for me that the ownership of their work is theirs and I hold no claim over it. Until that happens they can count this as their written promise.

comicsintheclassroom.com is owned by Diamond. I wonder why? I didn't know you could do that search. I just bought the first one available and since .com wasn't I went with .net. Mybe Diamond wanted to do something with their educational newsletter. It came out right after I launcehed last year. Maybe I just beat them out :)

[MacQuarrie]

So now he's removed Tightlip off the face of the internet ? Wow...this story keeps right on a rollin . I wonder if someone made a copy of it as well ? ;)

That's why God gave us the Wayback Machine.

[NatGertler]

It may not provide the same protection as a lace condom.Lace condoms could prevent a lot of pregnancies. I mean, what modern gal is going to look at that in place and not bust out laughing? And can you really do your manly best garbed in that fashion? I think not!

[Kurt Busiek]

Urban Justice? Wasn't that a 90s comic?

My great-uncle had the name first!

kdb

[MacQuarrie]

I don't think I have any pun named characters.

WHEW!

:)

Gail

Well, you should. You could pull it off.

[Gail Simone]

As of right now, they're all in google's cache.

I don't think he has a clue.

Gail

[Sarah Beach]

So now he's removed Tightlip off the face of the internet ? Wow...this story keeps right on a rollin . I wonder if someone made a copy of it as well ? ;)

Other than his god-awful header quote, the text of the TightLip frontpage (which is removed now) is, I believe, the same text that he has on the MightyMiniCon mySpace page. I have the TLE text in my email box, and could check. But I'm lazy right now. :)

[TCJohnson]

Battle For Blüdhaven was a mini series following Infinite Crisis were some baddies dropped some sort of bio-warfare/nuclear device on Bludhaven. No good came of it, and well, I can't recall most of it, but while it wasn't bad I can't say it was... good. (sorry to whoever wrote it! Not my cuppa!)

But no ragging on Batman and the outsiders! 'Twas brilliant! And such lovely 80's fun.

Ok, we are talking about creators with class, right?

You don't need to apolotize for not liking Bludhaven. It was written by Jimmy Palmiotti and Justing Gray. they are two of my favorite writers. They wrote the excellent series Monolith and are currently writing one of my favorite series currently in print, Jonah Hex. Jimmy Palmiotti is the nices profressional I ever met at a convention, seriously! And Justing Gray comes off as a heck of a nice guy online.

Lot of respect for both.

That being said, Battle for Bludhaven sucked. It was horrible. And I went to their boards and said so (keep in mind I regularly go there to tell them how much I love their other stuff so it was not like I was being a troll.

Justin Gray agreed. Well, maybe not that strongly, but he said that they had about half the time to write Battle for Bludhaven than they normally do to write a comic, and he was not happy with the final product. He was genuinely concerned that people would decide wether to base some of his future projects based on Bludhaven.

Anyway, this is the cool part. After I told them I didn't like it, I got an e-mail from Justin Gray. He said he was sorry that Bludhaven was not up to my expectations and if I gave him my address he would make it up to me. I was pretty sure he was not mad at me so I gave him my address. 3 days later I got a free copy of Freedom Fighters #1 by Gray and Palmiotti and a #1 of Red Sonja by them.

THAT is a class act!

[NatGertler]

Diamond's registration of ComicsintheClassroom.com goes back only to mid-2005, so this is not something they've been sitting on for a long time.

(To research stuff like this, try whois.net )

[Kurt Busiek]

I don't think I have any pun named characters.

Well, get cracking.

kdb

[MacQuarrie]

Who knows.

Jim, you might want to copy those images to your own hard drive. The front page for the website is no longer accessible on the net, and who knows what else he's going to eliminate.

(I'm sorry! I find it ironically hilarious! Erasing himself, as if that would unmake all the havok and poison he has spread about.)

I've saved those images, even though the links still work.

What a maroon.

[mike627]

So now he's removed Tightlip off the face of the internet ? Wow...this story keeps right on a rollin . I wonder if someone made a copy of it as well ? ;)haha,what? I wonder when we will see the "Im so misunderstood" blog from him..:D :rolleyes:

[Gail Simone]

Well, get cracking.

kdb

Um...

BURT KUSIEK!


Damn, a spoonerism!

Gail

[kadymae]

So by this, publication = copryright. So, if Mike Bullock wrote an article on my site with his name clearly visible, but my ( C ) notice is on the bottom of the page, Mike would still have the copyright.

Depends. Do you and Mike have a deal whereby you share copyright?*

Because right now, you could claim it's all yours.

Publication=/=copyright in all cases.

If that were so, Gail Simone would own every BoP story she's written. She doesn't. DC comics has the copyright. She's doing them on a work for hire basis, and copyright law is pretty clear that if you agree to work for hire, you don't own the copyright, and can't make a claim to it.

(You and Mike need to sit and have a chat about how you want to handle copyright on that work.)

A few years back Sirius published a very good comic that served as a primer about Copyrights and Trademarks. I'd suggest hunting a copy down.

Or, if you see that Michael Lovitz is giving a copyright/trademark panel at a convention, get a seat.

Wikipedia's article on copyright -- contains a subsection specific to US copyright law and the Berne Convention. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright)

Neil Gaiman and Todd McFarlane had a (bitter) copyright dispute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Gaiman#Legal_battle_with_Todd_McFarlane) over whether the character of Angela fell under work for hire or shared copyright rules. TCJ has a highlight reel of trial transcripts. (http://www.tcj.com/250/n_gvm.html) and ICV2 has more in-depth coverage. (http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/1883.html). And somewhere, if you bust out your google-fu, is an mp3 of the Judge ripping McFarlane and McFarlane's lawyer a new zipcode on what copyright is/isn't and how it really works.

Oh, and Gaiman made his case on the fact that he saved all his correspondance with McFarlane. It didn't matter that McFarlane trotted on down to the LoC and registered Angela, etc. as his. Gaiman's saved emails proved that the original deal was not work for hire.

---
* At ST, the deal is that both the individual Tart (or Redirected Male) and ST have copyright on the content s/he produces. These individuals are free to reprint/repost the content they have provided. (For $$$, even.) However, ST also has the right to reprint/repost the content in any manner we see fit, and the individual does not have the right to demand that we remove content.

[CitC]

Diamond's registration of ComicsintheClassroom.com goes back only to mid-2005, so this is not something they've been sitting on for a long time. I bought .net in late sept 2005. Not likely, but I wonder if they had plans to use it before I went up?

Kind of egotistical, I know.

[Paul Newell]

comicsintheclassroom.com is owned by Diamond. I wonder why?
This fella could tell you:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=5602

[Gail Simone]

http://taic.livejournal.com/71767.html


Well done, Blake.

Gail

[CitC]

Do you and Mike have a deal whereby you share copyright?* Sorry, that was meant to be hypothetical, but I do have a couple people writing for me - so I will make the arrangement clear with them, and on future articles there will be the disclaimer that the writers own the work.

[EdContradictory]

(I'm sorry! I find it ironically hilarious! Erasing himself, as if that would unmake all the havok and poison he has spread about.)
It's like the video for "Say Say Say" when Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney skip out of town with their snake oil business.




Except some people still like Michael Jackson.

[Kurt Busiek]

Um...

BURT KUSIEK!

Damn, a spoonerism!

Plus, Burt has a letter in AVENGERS #1.5, so you're too late.

kdb

[Blake Petit]

http://taic.livejournal.com/71767.html


Well done, Blake.

Gail

Good heavens, woman, I posted that like three seconds ago! What are you, Barry Allen's daughter? :D

Seriously, thank you. I'm sure I'll have more to say about it later, but for now, that's where I'm leaving things.

[kadymae]

Well, get cracking.

kdb

Considering that Hellhock, Hamhound, and Satan's Chitlins thing you had going on last night, don't you mean "get cracklin"?

[mike627]

http://taic.livejournal.com/71767.html


Well done, Blake.

GailWolud it just be alot more fun just to string "tricky rick" up and leave him as buzzard food?

[JTPencils]

Jim, that's some great stuff..... DC desperately NEEDS you on Hawkgirl!!!


Buuuuuuuuuuut.... (And I hope you're not the one who designed the characters) the Globe is a dead rip-off, in looks at least, of Blok (from the Legion of Super-Heroes), even down to the pants only costume that he originally had....

Once I find a picture of it, I'll post it.


Found it!

http://www.lightninglad.com/art/wallpaper/legion300.jpg

Kevin, I'd be happy if DC desperately needed me on ANYTHING!! LOL.

As for the Globe/Blok rip, totally unintentional. I was never a reader of LoSH. So,... but the subject did come up... and it was decided I had made enough of a change, for there to be no issue. Again, I was trusting others who were "in the know", and I wasn't. Besides, at first, DingDong DUllney had him with no pants at all. He looked more like Mr Hankey from South Park!!!

[Wil Radcliffe]

Good heavens, woman, I posted that like three seconds ago! What are you, Barry Allen's daughter? :D

Seriously, thank you. I'm sure I'll have more to say about it later, but for now, that's where I'm leaving things.

As a fellow POD'er I'm glad to see you've been able to extract yourself from this mess.

You probably don't remember me at all, but I e-mailed you a few years ago with some questions about your publisher. I went with a different publisher, but your answers provided a lot of insights. Thanks!

[MacQuarrie]

He may not be as erased as he thinks he is.

There's this cool piece of software called Sitesucker (http://www.mightyminicon.com/).

Thanks to Sitesucker, I have two folders on my desktop now; one contains the entire Orcafresh website contents, the other the mightyminicon site. Sadly, it doesn't retrieve database contents, so I don't have any forum postings, but do have all the images and articles.

Tragically, somebody told him how to use a robots.txt file, so I was unable to collect the Tightlip site. So far...

[JTPencils]

Who knows.

Jim, you might want to copy those images to your own hard drive. The front page for the website is no longer accessible on the net, and who knows what else he's going to eliminate.

(I'm sorry! I find it ironically hilarious! Erasing himself, as if that would unmake all the havok and poison he has spread about.)

Sarah, I've got them saved, and can easily get the hi rez files of these if ever needed. But thanks for the heads up!

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

He's FUBARed. Enjoy prison Rick.

JP

[Blake Petit]

As a fellow POD'er I'm glad to see you've been able to extract yourself from this mess.

You probably don't remember me at all, but I e-mailed you a few years ago with some questions about your publisher. I went with a different publisher, but your answers provided a lot of insights. Thanks!

I'm sorry to say I don't remember -- it's strange, I've gotten a few e-mails over the years from folks wanting to know about the folks who published my books and other various topics. I've always been amazed anyone wants my advice, because as anyone can tell you, I really don't have the foggiest idea what I'm doing. Half of any meager success I've had is because of blind luck, and the other half is because I was smart enough to agree to making Ronee my manager.

(Actually, that's probably closer to 25/75.)

[Kurt Busiek]

Considering that Hellhock, Hamhound, and Satan's Chitlins thing you had going on last night, don't you mean "get cracklin"?

That's my promo tagline for HONEYBAKED TEAM-UP #1!

kdb

[TCJohnson]

Good heavens, woman, I posted that like three seconds ago! What are you, Barry Allen's daughter? :D


Blake has a stalker, Blake has a stalker!

[Blake Petit]

Blake has a stalker, Blake has a stalker!

Coolest stalker ever. :cool:

[Gail Simone]

Blake has a stalker, Blake has a stalker!

Does not does not!

I was looking to see what sites Rick had erased and Blake's site was the first thing on google under Olney's name!

So THERE!

Kurt's a stalker, though. Of PUNS!

Gail

[Wil Radcliffe]

I don't know why, but I just got through watching Dodgeball on FX, and this part just got me thinking of what a certain someone might be singing while he's in prison...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN3K3xRkYEU

[Blake Petit]

Does not does not!

I was looking to see what sites Rick had erased and Blake's site was the first thing on google under Olney's name!

So THERE!

Kurt's a stalker, though. Of PUNS!

Gail

I've got a google stalker?

: panic attack:

[Wil Radcliffe]

I'm sorry to say I don't remember -- it's strange, I've gotten a few e-mails over the years from folks wanting to know about the folks who published my books and other various topics. I've always been amazed anyone wants my advice, because as anyone can tell you, I really don't have the foggiest idea what I'm doing. Half of any meager success I've had is because of blind luck, and the other half is because I was smart enough to agree to making Ronee my manager.

(Actually, that's probably closer to 25/75.)

I don't blame you for not remembering me. I tend to be an annoying little git, peppering others for advice and information. All the same, I hope you continue to have great success.

You most likely will... as long as you remember not to tick Ronee off. We know what happens to those who do!

[Kurt Busiek]

Kurt's a stalker, though. Of PUNS!

I beg to differ! I'm a Munchkin of Havoc!

No, wait, that's Dustin Pedroia.

kdb

[Gail Simone]

HA!

Rick erased the posts from people he'd cheated over at his Jazma forums.

Hilarious. What a gutless little yellowbellied coward.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

Coolest stalker ever. :cool:

.....I wanna stalker.... : kicks pebble :

[Sarah Beach]

Blake, I agree with Gail, though. Cool job closing that dangling matter.

I did the same when I realized after 2 weeks (the same 2 weeks I was moderating him down on the Dixonverse board) that he wasn't going to cough up a mere $35 to have me rewrite his crappy front text. And after that amount of time, I didn't want to do it. But I also didn't want "the job" hanging out there, since I had sent him a formal invoice before beginning.

His reaction to my "Pro Forma Termination of Job Agreement"? He said that now that he'd seen my "true colors" there was not chance that I would ever work for his company.

Like it was supposed to crush my dewy dreams.

Heh. Peanut brain.

[Gail Simone]

Blake, I agree with Gail, though. Cool job closing that dangling matter.

I did the same when I realized after 2 weeks (the same 2 weeks I was moderating him down on the Dixonverse board) that he wasn't going to cough up a mere $35 to have me rewrite his crappy front text. And after that amount of time, I didn't want to do it. But I also didn't want "the job" hanging out there, since I had sent him a formal invoice before beginning.

His reaction to my "Pro Forma Termination of Job Agreement"? He said that now that he'd seen my "true colors" there was not chance that I would ever work for his company.

Like it was supposed to crush my dewy dreams.

Heh. Peanut brain.


Oh, BOO that is to say HOO!

:)

Gail

[JTPencils]

Like it was supposed to crush my dewy dreams.

Heh. Peanut brain.

Need a tissue? I can tell that it truly upset you!

The new Olney Crying Towel... emblazoned with "NDA" across it. I think he's deluded himself into thinking he's the Mohawk version of Trump... "You're fired!"