Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[THEDOC]

Or maybe it's finally hit him he's digging his own grave and needs to knock this off...

Nah....

http://www.inter-fan.org/Art/bbbg3.jpg

[Haunted Pumpkin]

I'm sure he's taking notes and writing his rough draft for a big bloggity meltdown. Wait ...for... it...


I've been reading this saga long enough now to notice the same repeating pattern with this guy:

1. Sappy remorseful "forgive me for all I've done" mode (not remorseful enough to actually PAY anyone of course) usually with excuses of why things happened the way they did.

2. Attempts at a rebuttal of charges made here and elsewhere (all bullshit of course but with an attempt to be civil about it)

3. Rebuttals continue but now they are more confrontational as he begins to come apart at the seams.

4. Full meltdown.

5. Meltdown "hangover" where he deletes everything and lays low for a day or two.

6. Repeat of 1 thru 5

Did I miss anything? Does this pattern ever change?

[G-Spot]

I've been reading this saga long enough now to notice the same repeating pattern with this guy:

1. Sappy remorseful "forgive me for all I've done" mode (not remorseful enough to actually PAY anyone of course) usually with excuses of why things happened the way they did.

2. Attempts at a rebuttal of charges made here and elsewhere (all bullshit of course but with an attempt to be civil about it)

3. Rebuttals continue but now they are more confrontational as he begins to come apart at the seams.

4. Full meltdown.

5. Meltdown "hangover" where he deletes everything and lays low for a day or two.

6. Repeat of 1 thru 5

Did I miss anything? Does this pattern ever change?

Nope. Not in the last 10 years it hasn't. And I don't expect them to change any time soon, either.

[Sarah Beach]

Haunted Pumpkin, you seem to have gotten the gist of it.

[rummblestrips]

He is currently on # 5, meltdown hangover, as he deleted the post about the "fake name" asking for free comics. Probably scared shitless because that person is about to be contacted and told his personal information was displayed in public for everyone to see.

dumbass...

[Coppervale Studio]

He is currently on # 5, meltdown hangover, as he deleted the post about the "fake name" asking for free comics. Probably scared shitless because that person is about to be contacted and told his personal information was displayed in public for everyone to see.

dumbass...

I was talking to my attorney the other day, and Rick's name came up. I told him what had been going on, and he nearly cried he was laughing so hard.

He was very, very impressed that Rick could even screw up GIVING AWAY COMICS FOR FREE.

Simplest thing in the world - and yet Rick needs to pretend there's an organization behind it, and five people 'reviewing' posts about the comics, and a screening process for addresses, and a privacy promise... and he STILL manages to botch it all, when all he really needs to do is GIVE AWAY THE COMICS.

Geez.

[Danny Donovan]

I was talking to my attorney the other day, and Rick's name came up. I told him what had been going on, and he nearly cried he was laughing so hard.

He was very, very impressed that Rick could even screw up GIVING AWAY COMICS FOR FREE.

Simplest thing in the world - and yet Rick needs to pretend there's an organization behind it, and five people 'reviewing' posts about the comics, and a screening process for addresses, and a privacy promise... and he STILL manages to botch it all, when all he really needs to do is GIVE AWAY THE COMICS.

Geez.

Rick can't do anything nice for someone quietly. Or at all really. Which is why he screws up so royally. He is so desperate (and if he wasn't such a repugnant individual it'd be quite sad) for love and attention he can't just do something nice and stay anonymous.

He has to make a big show of it. He must have people know he did something nice and commend him for it. He must have the undying loyalty and thanks of people he did something for.

Hell, I've given away free comics before. It's not hard. Buy comics. Hand them out. Not really rocket science. I didn't need a team of advisers or a council of knuckleheads to do it, I just went and grabbed some comics, paid the nice person at the register, and then went out and distributed them.

Actually it's something I do a lot at conventions, especially on last days when people are DESPERATE to get rid of stock. Make a fair offer on some stuff that hasn't been flying off the shelf, and then take it to local schools or libraries or hospitals or something.

Not. That. Hard.

Rick, you idiot.

[Sarah Beach]

I was talking to my attorney the other day, and Rick's name came up. I told him what had been going on, and he nearly cried he was laughing so hard.

He was very, very impressed that Rick could even screw up GIVING AWAY COMICS FOR FREE.

Simplest thing in the world - and yet Rick needs to pretend there's an organization behind it, and five people 'reviewing' posts about the comics, and a screening process for addresses, and a privacy promise... and he STILL manages to botch it all, when all he really needs to do is GIVE AWAY THE COMICS.

Geez.

I guess I've been a shade too close to the matter. I needed to stand back a bit to fully appreciate the utter absurdity of how badly he's messed it up!

Heh.

[JTPencils]

I guess I've been a shade too close to the matter. I needed to stand back a bit to fully appreciate the utter absurdity of how badly he's messed it up!

Heh.
A bit like watching a train crash on a film loop, ain't it?

[Sarah Beach]

A bit like watching a train crash on a film loop, ain't it?

On a small screen TV at that. Sometimes you just need the big movie screen to get a sense of scope -- like watching the train wreck in The Fugitive.

[Danny Donovan]

I was talking to my attorney the other day, and Rick's name came up. I told him what had been going on, and he nearly cried he was laughing so hard.

He was very, very impressed that Rick could even screw up GIVING AWAY COMICS FOR FREE.

Simplest thing in the world - and yet Rick needs to pretend there's an organization behind it, and five people 'reviewing' posts about the comics, and a screening process for addresses, and a privacy promise... and he STILL manages to botch it all, when all he really needs to do is GIVE AWAY THE COMICS.

Geez.

Rick can't do anything nice for someone quietly. Or at all really. Which is why he screws up so royally. He is so desperate (and if he wasn't such a repugnant individual it'd be quite sad) for love and attention he can't just do something nice and stay anonymous.

He has to make a big show of it. He must have people know he did something nice and commend him for it. He must have the undying loyalty and thanks of people he did something for.

Hell, I've given away free comics before. It's not hard. Buy comics. Hand them out. Not really rocket science. I didn't need a team of advisers or a council of knuckleheads to do it, I just went and grabbed some comics, paid the nice person at the register, and then went out and distributed them.

Actually it's something I do a lot at conventions, especially on last days when people are DESPERATE to get rid of stock. Make a fair offer on some stuff that hasn't been flying off the shelf, and then take it to local schools or libraries or hospitals or something.

Not. That. Hard.

Rick, you idiot.

[MacQuarrie]

Oh, and lest we forget, all those free comics he has promised to mail out!
Speaking of which, he took down his insane post about the "imaginary" Mr. A.L.

Maybe being shown the address on a Google map cleared that up for him. What do you want to bet he actually sends the guy a comic just to try to make us look bad?

[Howler]

Did you get a chance to contact him yet about his address being posted?

As I previously mentioned, I suggested to a few of my non North American relatives ask for comics. Two declined because they didn't want to give out their address. One did send in a request for books, my cousin the member of his country's parliament. I'll keep it vague as that so little Ricky can't guess who it is and we'll see if he gets books within the next month as the blog promises. I'd advise you not to jerk him around Ricky.

[MacQuarrie]

Did you get a chance to contact him yet about his address being posted?

As I previously mentioned, I suggested to a few of my non North American relatives ask for comics. Two declined because they didn't want to give out their address. One did send in a request for books, my cousin the member of his country's parliament. I'll keep it vague as that so little Ricky can't guess who it is and we'll see if he gets books within the next month as the blog promises. I'd advise you not to jerk him around Ricky.
I'm mailing it. A phone call might be weird. Good thing we screencap everything.

[Charles RB]

#13671 – Steve Forbes recounts Olney being evasive when asked about the costs of putting a convention on and of his MMC 2007 plans; Olney also says Spider-Man will be at MMC (which would require Marvel’s permission)

#13675, 13682 – Matt Doc intends to alert Marvel and Sony over the promised Spider-Man appearance

#13685 – Matt Doc states intent to alert any MMC 2007 guests of Olney’s hi9story and advise them to get payment up front

#13692 – Doc Absurd transcribes a December 2006 mail from Olney stating the ICC is all Doc’s, and that Olney is abandoning it as he no longer wants anything to do with the small press

[dragonbat]

I just received this email:
"That bastard said he would pay my airfare, and the directions he gave me to get to that "con" weren't worth shit!

A. Earhart"

Don't tell me... she wasn't trying to fly around the world when she disappeared... she was trying to locate the con!

[dragonbat]

Forget the nuts, how about the horrifying idea that Muslims might eat halal food and then ask shops to sell it? Why, that'd be terrifyingly like what Jewish people do! And then the shops have to suffer selling products to costumers!

And then, Muslims might... convert disaffected people and convicts! They're muscling in on the Christian's turf!

And Muslims have babies OH NO!

And Halal meat is already available in Toronto, Canada, (with a less than 2% Muslim population, per the drivel a couple posts back) in neighborhoods where the demand is high. (Possibly even where it isn't that high--as a non-Muslim, I'm not actively looking for that designation, but I certainly pass by a few restaurants that have a sign in the window to indicate Halal is served.)

[MacQuarrie]

And Halal meat is already available in Toronto, Canada, (with a less than 2% Muslim population, per the drivel a couple posts back) in neighborhoods where the demand is high. (Possibly even where it isn't that high--as a non-Muslim, I'm not actively looking for that designation, but I certainly pass by a few restaurants that have a sign in the window to indicate Halal is served.)
Logic and reason have no place in a discussion with the idiot of, well, anything.

[Village Idiot]

Hey, Everybody.

My first post here other than the Introduce Yourself thread.

Just wanted to commend everybody for the work they've done here vis-a-vis letting the world know of the genetic mishap that is Olney.

As you might notice from my sign up date, I've been around quite a while. Signed up, then waited to post, then stuff happened, more stuff happened, forgot my screen name, forgot I had signed up, remembered that I had signed up, couldn't remember that I had forgot I had signed up, remembered again that I had signed up, forgot that I couldn't remember that I had forgot my screen name, tried to Log In under my "real" name of "Tamryn", then finally clicked the right box that got me a wonderful free email telling me I was the Village Idiot. So I am. And so here I am.

Also, a couple times I wanted to post something in this thread, but Gail kept winking at me and I'd lose my train of thought.

I'm actually surprised Olney is still alive. I figured either his wife or some angry creator would have offed him by now.

I'm afraid as long as Olney is alive, this thread is going to have to continue to be in weekly use. He just isn't going to stop until he dies, or is rotting in jail.

Congrats also on having created Unscrewed. May it continue to help distressed creators for decades to come.

[sunshinegirl]

Hey, Everybody.

My first post here other than the Introduce Yourself thread.

Just wanted to commend everybody for the work they've done here vis-a-vis letting the world know of the genetic mishap that is Olney.

As you might notice from my sign up date, I've been around quite a while. Signed up, then waited to post, then stuff happened, more stuff happened, forgot my screen name, forgot I had signed up, remembered that I had signed up, couldn't remember that I had forgot I had signed up, remembered again that I had signed up, forgot that I couldn't remember that I had forgot my screen name, tried to Log In under my "real" name of "Tamryn", then finally clicked the right box that got me a wonderful free email telling me I was the Village Idiot. So I am. And so here I am.

Also, a couple times I wanted to post something in this thread, but Gail kept winking at me and I'd lose my train of thought.

I'm actually surprised Olney is still alive. I figured either his wife or some angry creator would have offed him by now.

I'm afraid as long as Olney is alive, this thread is going to have to continue to be in weekly use. He just isn't going to stop until he dies, or is rotting in jail.

Congrats also on having created Unscrewed. May it continue to help distressed creators for decades to come.


...and we'll be here.

(Oh, and welcome.)

[OzBat!]

Welcome, and I wouldn't worry about the dies/prison thing too much. Justice will catch up with him, and hopefully one of the first things repossessed to pay his outstandings will be his computer, thus removing his potential to screw anybody else up. And really, that's all we need. To make sure this idjit never screws over another creator again.

[JTPencils]

But don't they also have internet access in jail? How would he be stopped then!!!

[Haunted Pumpkin]

You know, I almost wonder if he was spooked into hiding by Gail taking this to Fantagraphics and the possibility of them running a story on his histroy of lying and cheating.

I mean as much good as this thread has done, there are probably many out there who don't have an online presence. Having his many loads of dirty laundry aired by a well known industry publication is a whole 'nother level of exposure. :smile:

[Gail Simone]

That's not the only publication where it will be talked about, but that's all I can say right this moment.

[Crowley]

Hey, Everybody.

My first post here other than the Introduce Yourself thread.

Just wanted to commend everybody for the work they've done here vis-a-vis letting the world know of the genetic mishap that is Olney.

As you might notice from my sign up date, I've been around quite a while. Signed up, then waited to post, then stuff happened, more stuff happened, forgot my screen name, forgot I had signed up, remembered that I had signed up, couldn't remember that I had forgot I had signed up, remembered again that I had signed up, forgot that I couldn't remember that I had forgot my screen name, tried to Log In under my "real" name of "Tamryn", then finally clicked the right box that got me a wonderful free email telling me I was the Village Idiot. So I am. And so here I am.

Also, a couple times I wanted to post something in this thread, but Gail kept winking at me and I'd lose my train of thought.

I'm actually surprised Olney is still alive. I figured either his wife or some angry creator would have offed him by now.

I'm afraid as long as Olney is alive, this thread is going to have to continue to be in weekly use. He just isn't going to stop until he dies, or is rotting in jail.

Congrats also on having created Unscrewed. May it continue to help distressed creators for decades to come.
going to jail, yes... being killed, no.

[Gail Simone]

Yeah, I'm asking everyone again to please not suggest violence, EVEN IN JEST.

PERIOD.

It's not funny, it's using Rick Olney's tactics, and it makes everyone look bad.

I don't want him beaten up. I don't want him punched in the face.

I want him to pay for his rotten deeds legally.

[Gail Simone]

I'm glad Chumbley's back.

YAY, Chumbley, if you're out there!

[Tegan]

I have a simple and probably stupid request. I know a lot of folks involved in this thread have written/published/worked on great books that are currently available on Amazon.com. I haven't been able to keep up with the thread, or the announcements of such books. I don't suppose some daring person with time on their hands could put together an Amazon.com list of books by contributors to this thread? I want to start catching up on some of them, and a public list we could all consult seems like a great way to do it. Hope I'm not treading on already treaded upon territory. I've already found a couple of great books thanks to this thread, I'd hate to miss others.

In other news, I've just moved to another town across the mountains from my native Seattle. As a result of the move, I decided to get rid of most of my comic books. I took them down to the local shop and had my shopkeeper pick through for books she could resell, then took the rest to my sister, who has boxed them into packages of about 60 books each. The boxes are filled out with treats and sundries, and then my sister is sending them to a soldier in Iraq she knows. At about two boxes a month, she's got enough boxes to last through his deployment with some to spare. My mother took a box and sent it to a mail clerk in Iraq that she'd heard from a friend on another mailing list wasn't getting any mail. Thus my collection from the last 18 years is being distributed in Iraq. This is such a tiny thing, hardly worth mentioning, but I honestly believe that it is more than the subject of this thread has done. You may all draw your own conclusions as to whether or not I'm correct.

Anyway, thanks for the work, everyone. I've enjoyed this thread when I can keep up with it.

[MacQuarrie]

I have a simple and probably stupid request. I know a lot of folks involved in this thread have written/published/worked on great books that are currently available on Amazon.com. I haven't been able to keep up with the thread, or the announcements of such books. I don't suppose some daring person with time on their hands could put together an Amazon.com list of books by contributors to this thread? I want to start catching up on some of them, and a public list we could all consult seems like a great way to do it. Hope I'm not treading on already treaded upon territory. I've already found a couple of great books thanks to this thread, I'd hate to miss others.
We have a whole 'nother thread for that!

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=159338

And that's great about the comic shipments to Iraq. Good on you.

[dragonbat]

Well... it's taken me about 2 1/2 months, but I've finally finished reading this thread! Do I get a prize... or is the achievement its own reward? :biggrin:

[MacQuarrie]

Well... it's taken me about 2 1/2 months, but I've finally finished reading this thread! Do I get a prize... or is the achievement its own reward? :biggrin:
Now you get to go dig up the J-Bolt threads. He was practice for dealing with Olney.

[Gail Simone]

Well... it's taken me about 2 1/2 months, but I've finally finished reading this thread! Do I get a prize... or is the achievement its own reward? :biggrin:

You get to lose IQ points by just reading the Orcafresh posts!


By the way, can I just say how stupid the name "Orcafresh" is for anything, but particularly for anything comics-related? It evokes nothing, it's awkward to say, and has no meaning. Well DONE, Olney!

[JTPencils]

OrcaFresh (to me) sounds like a wet napkin for killer whales.

"sir, my hands are all dirty, can you bring us a few OrcaFresh towelettes please?"

[Gail Simone]

Nothing says, "I am a serial deadbeat who cheats everyone I possibly can," like new ORCAFRESH brand greasy baseball caps!

[JTPencils]

Nothing says, "I am a serial deadbeat who cheats everyone I possibly can," like new ORCAFRESH brand greasy baseball caps!

"Now available with faux sweat stains in the headband!"

[Tegan]

We have a whole 'nother thread for that!

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=159338

And that's great about the comic shipments to Iraq. Good on you.

That's not exactly what I was asking for. There are people robbed by the subject of this thread, and there are people who participate in this thread. The two don't entirely overlap. While I'm certainly interested in the works of folks who have been cheated by the subject, I'm also interested in the works of people who have contributed to this thread, whether they've been victimized by the moron or not.

I'm thinking of James Owen's series and Nat's many many books, not just Chuck and Gail. And didn't somebody else just announce a book about writing? I just tried to find it, and skimming through the pages I've been unable to locate anything. Which is why I was hoping for a list. It's so hard to dig up anything particular in this thread, and the wonderful indexing that Charles is doing (YOU GO!) is mostly covering just the information related to the subject.

[Gail Simone]

That's not exactly what I was asking for. There are people robbed by the subject of this thread, and there are people who participate in this thread. The two don't entirely overlap. While I'm certainly interested in the works of folks who have been cheated by the subject, I'm also interested in the works of people who have contributed to this thread, whether they've been victimized by the moron or not.

I'm thinking of James Owen's series and Nat's many many books, not just Chuck and Gail. And didn't somebody else just announce a book about writing? I just tried to find it, and skimming through the pages I've been unable to locate anything. Which is why I was hoping for a list. It's so hard to dig up anything particular in this thread, and the wonderful indexing that Charles is doing (YOU GO!) is mostly covering just the information related to the subject.

I think this is a neat idea.

Jeez, this thread is eventually going to become its own universe.

[Coppervale Studio]

That's not exactly what I was asking for. There are people robbed by the subject of this thread, and there are people who participate in this thread. The two don't entirely overlap. While I'm certainly interested in the works of folks who have been cheated by the subject, I'm also interested in the works of people who have contributed to this thread, whether they've been victimized by the moron or not.

I'm thinking of James Owen's series and Nat's many many books, not just Chuck and Gail. And didn't somebody else just announce a book about writing? I just tried to find it, and skimming through the pages I've been unable to locate anything. Which is why I was hoping for a list. It's so hard to dig up anything particular in this thread, and the wonderful indexing that Charles is doing (YOU GO!) is mostly covering just the information related to the subject.

Here's a good non-Amazon source:

http://www.crossroads-books.com/main.sc (http://www.crossroads-books.com/main.sc)

They also give away free comics and books to kids. It's easier than some people think it is.

[Gail Simone]

Hey, your first book is now available for the kindle, James! I'm gonna buy it so I don't ruin the copy you sent the lovely sketch in!

[NatGertler]

I'm thinking of James Owen's series and Nat's many many booksSince you asked (and I know you're actually more aware of my work than most folks are, Laura), I'll list my in-print books of interest to the comics crowd (I don't think anyone here is that eager for things like my still-in-print book on how to use the two-revisions-back edition of Macromedia Flash):

The Licensable BearTM Big Book of Officially Licensed Fun! (http://AAUGH.com/to.htm?0979075068) came out just last week, and includes the full four-issue run of Licensable BearTM, plus a handful of short stories that appeared elsewhere. Includes three pages of art by the thread's Jim MacQuarrie
The Factor (http://AAUGH.com/to.htm?0971633851), the alternative superhero take that got me my first Eisner nomination.
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Creating a Graphic Novel (http://AAUGH.com/to.htm?1592572332), co-written with Steve Lieber
Panel One (http://AAUGH.com/to.htm?0971633800) - a book of comic book scripts which I edited and wrote intros for, and includes one of my scripts. (And while we're at it, I put together Panel Two (http://AAUGH.com/to.htm?0971633819) as well, but that doesn't include one of my scripts, although it does contain one of Gail's.)
You can find some of my prose work as part of anthologies, Comics Prose (http://AAUGH.com/to.htm?097163386X) and Hot Blood: Fear the Fever (http://AAUGH.com/to.htm?0786016493), and you can find two issues of my earliest comics work in Speed Racer Volume 4 (http://AAUGH.com/to.htm?1600101771).
There's certainly lots of my comics in the back-issue bins, but this is basically it for the in-print material aimed at comics fans. You can ask your comic book retailer or local bookshop to special-order any of this stuff (although the comics retailer may have a little trouble with Fear the Fever and possibly even the Idiot's Guide if they don't have a booktrade account, but the full-service shops are ever more linked into the booktrade distribution.)

[dragonbat]

[QUOTE=Gail Simone;7597616]You get to lose IQ points by just reading the Orcafresh posts!


/QUOTE]

Meh. I gained a few back reading Secret Six and listening to Sondheim lyrics. It all balances.

[Samuel Catalino]

Yeah, I'm asking everyone again to please not suggest violence, EVEN IN JEST.

PERIOD.

It's not funny, it's using Rick Olney's tactics, and it makes everyone look bad.

I don't want him beaten up. I don't want him punched in the face.

I want him to pay for his rotten deeds legally.

My question is why would you feel the need to make a request?

[Gail Simone]

My question is why would you feel the need to make a request?

Because someone had made the joke about a chimp handling a gun, that's all.

[Coppervale Studio]

Hey, your first book is now available for the kindle, James! I'm gonna buy it so I don't ruin the copy you sent the lovely sketch in!

Whew! Good to know. I was worried that Rick's people might have gotten to Jeff Bezos first.

[MacQuarrie]

Whew! Good to know. I was worried that Rick's people might have gotten to Jeff Bezos first.
Rick's people aren't available. Barb hasn't done the laundry yet and his sock drawer is empty.

[alexanderness]

Because someone had made the joke about a chimp handling a gun, that's all.

Sorry bout that, in the future I will say things like that in my brain.

[Flying Saucers Over Oz]

But is it really a good idea to teach complete idiots how to create graphic novels?

[Village Idiot]

Yeah, I'm asking everyone again to please not suggest violence, EVEN IN JEST.

PERIOD.



Didn't realize my words could be taken as suggesting violence. I'll be more careful in the future. I believe in letting the legal system work.

[Village Idiot]

Hey, your first book is now available for the kindle, James!

I think the kindle is poorly named, as it leads to saying...

"Hey, your first book is now available for kindling."

[NatGertler]

But is it really a good idea to teach complete idiots how to create graphic novels?Is Bullfinch's Guide to Mythology for Bullfinch? Is Jane's Guide to Aircraft for Jane?

(The title that always bothers me is Sex For Dummies. Really, if you can't figure it out for yourself, that's mother nature's way of taking you out of the gene pool...)

[JTPencils]

(The title that always bothers me is Sex For Dummies. Really, if you can't figure it out for yourself, that's mother nature's way of taking you out of the gene pool...)

And here I thought the title "Sex for Dummies" was either a help book for single mannequins... lonely crash test figures (let's face it, some of them are probably scarred pretty bad, or worse!),... or really twisted ventriloquists and their little carved partners!

[Sarah Beach]

That's not exactly what I was asking for. There are people robbed by the subject of this thread, and there are people who participate in this thread. The two don't entirely overlap. While I'm certainly interested in the works of folks who have been cheated by the subject, I'm also interested in the works of people who have contributed to this thread, whether they've been victimized by the moron or not.

I'm thinking of James Owen's series and Nat's many many books, not just Chuck and Gail. And didn't somebody else just announce a book about writing? I just tried to find it, and skimming through the pages I've been unable to locate anything. Which is why I was hoping for a list. It's so hard to dig up anything particular in this thread, and the wonderful indexing that Charles is doing (YOU GO!) is mostly covering just the information related to the subject.


Waves hand and jumps up and down.

That would be me, Tegan. And I had mentioned it in this thread, but I also launched a separate thread to totally pimp it.

But you can find what you need at www.scribblersguidetomyth.com

:biggrin:

[Tegan]

Waves hand and jumps up and down.

That would be me, Tegan. And I had mentioned it in this thread, but I also launched a separate thread to totally pimp it.

But you can find what you need at www.scribblersguidetomyth.com

That's the one! I shall bookmark it this time, then I hopefully won't lose it again.

[TomStillwell]

I have a simple and probably stupid request. I know a lot of folks involved in this thread have written/published/worked on great books that are currently available on Amazon.com. I haven't been able to keep up with the thread, or the announcements of such books. I don't suppose some daring person with time on their hands could put together an Amazon.com list of books by contributors to this thread? I want to start catching up on some of them, and a public list we could all consult seems like a great way to do it. Hope I'm not treading on already treaded upon territory. I've already found a couple of great books thanks to this thread, I'd hate to miss others.

In other news, I've just moved to another town across the mountains from my native Seattle. As a result of the move, I decided to get rid of most of my comic books. I took them down to the local shop and had my shopkeeper pick through for books she could resell, then took the rest to my sister, who has boxed them into packages of about 60 books each. The boxes are filled out with treats and sundries, and then my sister is sending them to a soldier in Iraq she knows. At about two boxes a month, she's got enough boxes to last through his deployment with some to spare. My mother took a box and sent it to a mail clerk in Iraq that she'd heard from a friend on another mailing list wasn't getting any mail. Thus my collection from the last 18 years is being distributed in Iraq. This is such a tiny thing, hardly worth mentioning, but I honestly believe that it is more than the subject of this thread has done. You may all draw your own conclusions as to whether or not I'm correct.

Anyway, thanks for the work, everyone. I've enjoyed this thread when I can keep up with it.

You can actually read all my books here for free. Enjoy.

http://www.wowio.com/users/searchresults.asp?nPublisherId=170

[Shocker Toys]

My guess is concerning Olney's characters from Freedom 3 and Monster Squad. Shockini versions of them?

Never heard of them and we never licensed them sorry.

[THEDOC]

You can actually read all my books here for free. Enjoy.

http://www.wowio.com/users/searchresults.asp?nPublisherId=170

I think I still need to order some books from you Tom.

[MacQuarrie]

Never heard of them and we never licensed them sorry.
Must have been some other company or individual. Here's the story:


From what Rick told me he paid for half the order for the clocks. And received half the order of clocks. But the rest of the clocks wouldn't be shipped until Rick paid for the other half of order. And Rick didn't want to do that. He wanted the other clocks shipped first. And I think that was the dispute.

There was an other piece of merchandising being done as well. Busts being made for Monster Squad. I saw the prototype for one of the characters...But I think something held up the completion of the Busts. Hmmm...I wonder what could have held up production on those.

Richard Sullivan

[CutterMike]

Never heard of them and we never licensed them sorry.
Are we surprised...?








No.

[Crowley]

wonder where Rick's been?

Chumbly knows:
http://torrentialspirit.blogspot.com/

[Linkara]

wonder where Rick's been?

Chumbly knows:
http://torrentialspirit.blogspot.com/

Permission to change Chuck Dixon's name to Duck Chixon, please! XD

[EdContradictory]

Never heard of them and we never licensed them sorry.

Shocker Toys? Have any of their toys ever come out?

[Sarah Beach]

wonder where Rick's been?

Chumbly knows:
http://torrentialspirit.blogspot.com/

Very funny!

Chumbly is such a pleasing reading experience!

[sunshinegirl]

wonder where Rick's been?

Chumbly knows:
http://torrentialspirit.blogspot.com/

Nick Chumbly makes me smile. :biggrin:

[JTPencils]

OK, Chumbly got a good snorting laugh outta me for that one.

[ComicbookJeff]

Oh man.
Chumbly for the win!

[dragonbat]

You made me look! It made me lol!

[Flying Saucers Over Oz]

Okay, I think I've figured it out. Either his wife happened to discover what he's doing ("What the Hell is the matter with you, Richard??? You wanna get us sued again????") or he's hoping if he disappears for a little bit, we'll all think he's gone for good and everyone will call off the lawsuits, articles, etc....

[KJ_81]

Never heard of them and we never licensed them sorry.

Of course, if we wanted we could start our own thread on all the people Shocker Toys has ripped off: Designers, sculptors, etc, who were told after completion of the work that all of a sudden they'd been bumped to 'intern' status.

Also all the people who you took money from for pre-orders for various products that never materialised, after months, even years, of lies that they were on the way, had to be sent back for lead paint, etc etc, even though you had no samples to show.

Shocker Toys is just as bad as Olney.

Heck, just in the last week, after taking pre-orders for Indie Spotlight figures for the last few years, they've taken it off the site, and the forums, with no mention of its status. Shocker Toys strikes again.

Pathetic. Why haven't you posted on various sites asking for updates on this development? Heck, you still haven't updated your own worried forum on it. You have plenty of time to post here, it's not like you actually produce anything. The cycle will start anew soon. You had to go out of country for sculptors, as none in the US would work with you, due to your reputation.

[Gail Simone]

Wow...those are strong allegations. Anything to say, Shocker Toys?

[DaveRothe]

Is Bullfinch's Guide to Mythology for Bullfinch? Is Jane's Guide to Aircraft for Jane?

(The title that always bothers me is Sex For Dummies. Really, if you can't figure it out for yourself, that's mother nature's way of taking you out of the gene pool...)

I much prefer the Pop Up Edition. Simply insert Tab A in Slot B and hold on true believers! Nuff said! Also on sale the Practice Edition with laminated pages for easy cleanup!

[DaveRothe]

Also wanted the Rare Edition of Reading for Dummies. Don't know why it didn't sell well...

[Paul D. Storrie]

Also wanted the Rare Edition of Reading for Dummies. Don't know why it didn't sell well...

Reminds me of an actual sign I saw in front of an Adult Education building years ago:


Can't Read? Call Kathy at ___-____!

PDS

[MacQuarrie]

True story: A teacher's aide at the preschool where my wife once worked posted a sign telling the 2- and 3-year-old children not to crash the tricycles into the wall.

She didn't last long.

[sunshinegirl]

Ah, but the Deltas and Epsilons are necessary in society.

[Howler]

This may just be new to me but I found two more places little Ricky is hanging out at.

He's got a Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick_Olney/647368671

Currently he has 4 friends listed. His sister, her husband, his nephew and someone who I think may be a niece.

The other is this blog
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Rick-Olney

No entries yet but he's been making comments on other pages.

[Matt Doc Martin]

This may just be new to me but I found two more places little Ricky is hanging out at.

He's got a Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick_Olney/647368671

Currently he has 4 friends listed. His sister, her husband, his nephew and someone who I think may be a niece.

The other is this blog
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Rick-Olney

No entries yet but he's been making comments on other pages.


He is quite the bad penny.

[Gail Simone]

He's a lonely twerp who cheated and abused his few friends. It's no surprise he's always on these social sites begging for people to be his friend, but it is absolutely creepy.

[Cam63]

I don't think he has the energy ( or will ) required to maintain a friendship.

[Flying Saucers Over Oz]

I remember once seeing a book entitled HOW TO READ A BOOK...

[Sally Sensational]

I remember once seeing a book entitled HOW TO READ A BOOK...

Was the rest of the title perhaps "Like a Literature Professor?"

Because that's a really good book.

[JTPencils]

Currently he has 4 friends listed. His sister, her husband, his nephew and someone who I think may be a niece.


Coincidentally, it's the same number (and roster) of folks that are going to show up to his next notsoMighty Maxi RipOff Con.

[rummblestrips]

I would like you all to click on this link below and peruse the page...

http://www.mightycrusaders.net/nonMLJ.htm

Tell me if anything jumps out of you.. near the bottom...

-shivers-

[bert]

he's vewy vewy qwiet.


he must be hunting wabbits


(or schlubbits).



.

[bert]

I would like you all to click on this link below and peruse the page...

http://www.mightycrusaders.net/nonMLJ.htm

Tell me if anything jumps out of you.. near the bottom...

-shivers-

there you go.

we schubs were all wrong.

he has been "published"

Newarama interviewed him.

that'll show us!

[Charles RB]

RO: Rather than tag them as having "super" powers... I identify them as Marines with special needs

You could not make that up.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Is this Rick Olney as well?


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178635090

[Howler]

Is this Rick Olney as well?


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178635090

Yeah that is. It was orginally called Chandlerblood. Then he changed it to Old Bear and all the icons were bear related.

[JTPencils]

Do you think he's aware of what "bear" translates to in the gay community?

Nah, then he'd have to hate his own page!

[rummblestrips]

Is this Rick Olney as well?


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178635090

bwaahahahahaha...
That's him. the "bear" and his tag line is

"Old Bear says, "Not enough LOVING getting shared around here with each other!"

hahahahhaaha

[JTPencils]

He may as well have written "reacharounds for everyone!"

[rummblestrips]

there you go.

we schubs were all wrong.

he has been "published"

Newarama interviewed him.

that'll show us!

I was referring more to this

http://www.mightycrusaders.net/images/olney.jpg

EVERYONE else on that page has a portrait of themselves or some really nice thumbnail of appropriate artwork.. but not Rick. I swear, when you scroll down that page, it's like one of those videos that tell you to lean in really close to the screen when it suddenly screams at you and shows a frightening image.

[Howler]

He may as well have written "reacharounds for everyone!"

Noooooooooooo. That thought is nightmare worthy.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1700/reacharoundrickpr8.jpg

[JTPencils]

Ahhhhh. OK... the as yet unpaid for artwork of Cesar and Jeff Austin. Yeah, but I looked and saw the date on that particular interview. It's probably been forgotten by most (thankfully).

Still... disturbing is a nice way to put it. Much like his much vaunted "leagle team"... he's hoping to stay anonymous with no photo. Probably afraid that today's face recognition tech would instantly put him on a "watch" list of some sort.

[JTPencils]

Noooooooooooo. That thought is nightmare worthy.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1700/reacharoundrickpr8.jpg

Rod Serling would be so proud. I may cry! *sniff*

[KJ_81]

This may just be new to me but I found two more places little Ricky is hanging out at.

He's got a Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick_Olney/647368671

Currently he has 4 friends listed. His sister, her husband, his nephew and someone who I think may be a niece.

The other is this blog
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Rick-Olney

No entries yet but he's been making comments on other pages.

Wonder if they know what he's been up to?

[Howler]

Do you think he's aware of what "bear" translates to in the gay community?

Nah, then he'd have to hate his own page!

Speaking of which, I was doing a Google image search a few months back and this image came up. I was searching for "big hugs"

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg

Now does that not resemble a certain someone or am I just seeing things?

[Gail Simone]

bwaahahahahaha...
That's him. the "bear" and his tag line is

"Old Bear says, "Not enough LOVING getting shared around here with each other!"

hahahahhaaha

hahahahaha!

"Won't someone please give this ol' bear a reacharound?"

[Gail Simone]

Speaking of which, I was doing a Google image search a few months back and this image came up. I was searching for "big hugs"

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg

Now does that not resemble a certain someone or am I just seeing things?

"Let's DO this! But first, will you sign my fake NDA?"


CAPTION THE PHOTO!

[JTPencils]

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg

"Do you know me? I used to think I was in the Village People... but many years, and a thousand buffets have changed all that... now I just want to be YOUR macho man!

When we're done, we can sit around all sweaty like and read purloined comics!"

[JTPencils]

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg

"If you don't like this look, I've got a Marines outfit, a nifty writers outfit, a dapper lawyers suit, or a publisher's outfit... name your pleasure! I'm more flexible then I look!"

[JTPencils]

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg

"And you thought the greasy ball cap was a disturbing fashion choice!!"

(that's all I can think up for now)

[JTPencils]

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg

Last one (I promise).

"Who's up for a quick game of Twister? Reacharounds optional!"

[Sarah Beach]

Speaking of which, I was doing a Google image search a few months back and this image came up. I was searching for "big hugs"

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg

Now does that not resemble a certain someone or am I just seeing things?

I don't think I needed to see that, or imagine what it conjures.

BRAIN SCRUBBER, PLEASE! :eek:

[THEDOC]

I would like you all to click on this link below and peruse the page...

http://www.mightycrusaders.net/nonMLJ.htm

Tell me if anything jumps out of you.. near the bottom...

-shivers-

Yeah he has now made a site I like less enjoyable. Damn you RO!!!

[THEDOC]

Is this Rick Olney as well?


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178635090

Man, where's Dustin Hoffman to get this RO outbreak under control.

[THEDOC]

Speaking of which, I was doing a Google image search a few months back and this image came up. I was searching for "big hugs"

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg

Now does that not resemble a certain someone or am I just seeing things?

Semper Fi???? Man I will have to read the whole series of YoungBlood to get that image out of my head.

[Flamebird]

I would like you all to click on this link below and peruse the page...

http://www.mightycrusaders.net/nonMLJ.htm

Tell me if anything jumps out of you.. near the bottom...

-shivers-

All I got was a virus warning, before it closed the page.

[CoffeeStained]

Rick Olney's sex life? Let's just say puppetry isn't the only duty his tube socks are faced with.


I apologise to everyone's brains.

[Howler]

I would not have posted that image had I known it would get reposted over and over. Make it stop!! :)

Speaking of little Ricky, it's been a week now since he posted. I'm getting worried. Come back to us little Ricky.

http://i36.tinypic.com/eb6lh4.jpg

[Gail Simone]

Rick Olney's sex life? Let's just say puppetry isn't the only duty his tube socks are faced with.


I apologise to everyone's brains.

APOLOGY NOT ACCEPTED!

;)

[Linkara]

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg


"Oh, yes, sign that NDA! Yes, make fun of my non-payment! MORE!"

[JTPencils]

I would not have posted that image had I known it would get reposted over and over. Make it stop!! :)

(points at Gail) Blame her! She wanted captions!

(OK, to be honest, I could have put them all under one post, but they were coming into my head as soon as I'd hit "submit"...)

[Cam63]

I would not have posted that image had I known it would get reposted over and over. Make it stop!! :)

Speaking of little Ricky, it's been a week now since he posted. I'm getting worried. Come back to us little Ricky.

http://i36.tinypic.com/eb6lh4.jpg

Oh, that's good.

[sunshinegirl]

That leather-panties-wearin' picture is just plain disturbing.

[KJ_81]

All I got was a virus warning, before it closed the page.

Yeah same.

I would avoid that page, people.

[CutterMike]

"And you thought the greasy ball cap was a disturbing fashion choice!!"

(that's all I can think up for now)

JT -

Please.

Never use the phrase "greasy ball cap" in ANY sort of proximity to a picture of a fat guy wearing leather panties.

Please.

It's just wrong.

[the4thpip]

That leather-panties-wearin' picture is just plain disturbing.

Rick needed the money to buy the best cable tv available.

[THEDOC]

I will let the webmaster there know.
I also posted Tony's waring about Rick on my FaceBook group in case he tries to contact any of my members. Will advise Ian and other groups to do same thing.

[Matt Algren]

Do you think he's aware of what "bear" translates to in the gay community?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say "yes".

[LomiMonet]

Speaking of which, I was doing a Google image search a few months back and this image came up. I was searching for "big hugs"

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg

Now does that not resemble a certain someone or am I just seeing things?

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. :P

Some things just can't be unseen.

[Guapo Méndez]

If Sick is not the one in the picutre, I fear we're being evil by shaming a poor bear.

Give him a pic a nic basket.

[JTPencils]

JT -

Please.

Never use the phrase "greasy ball cap" in ANY sort of proximity to a picture of a fat guy wearing leather panties.

Please.

It's just wrong.

Mike, I could have phrased it differently I suppose. But seein's how you responded to it, it makes it all worth the effort. No matter how wrong.

But I agree. It's one of those thoughts you just can't endure, or undo!

[sunshinegirl]

Rick needed the money to buy the best cable tv available.

Well, the money from his photo sales is not going to creators.

(When I say photo sales, I mean people pay him to take them OFF the internet!)

[Tegan]

If Sick is not the one in the picutre, I fear we're being evil by shaming a poor bear.

Give him a pic a nic basket.

The guy in the picture is in way too good shape to be the subject of this thread.

[Flying Saucers Over Oz]

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/chubbygaymanxv4.jpg




And if you think THAT'S disturbing, you should see what DENNIS is wearing...

[JTPencils]

I think he's the construction worker.

[Howler]

Actually he is the little known seventh member, the pirate.

http://i35.tinypic.com/15y7kg2.jpg

[CoffeeStained]

Nope, not the pirate.
There was an image of a man in a 'Mexican' outfit, but I didn't have copyrights, so I now have just a description of the image that it used to be.

Let's respect copyright.

[JTPencils]

I always wondered what happened to the Frito Bandito!

[OzBat!]

My brain scrubber is broken after too much use. I'm up for a brainflushectomy next. Can we please stop repeating those damn photos? It's definitely strayed into Not Safe For Work territory!! :mad:

[Lester C.]

This thread has close to 1.4 million views. That's a mind boggling number.

[the4thpip]

This thread has close to 1.4 million views. That's a mind boggling number.

How many of those views were just to see a photo of an Olney lookalike in skimpy leather gear?

[Gail Simone]

1.378 million!

There's no question that Olney loves the attention. He thinks this interest is because he's fascinating.

When the truth is, it's like looking at a particularly disgusting bug. You can't look away even though it makes you want to be sick.

[Samuel Catalino]

1.378 million!

There's no question that Olney loves the attention. He thinks this interest is because he's fascinating.

When the truth is, it's like looking at a particularly disgusting bug. You can't look away even though it makes you want to be sick.


Or it is like watching an accident, and the sad thing is there have been far too many innocent victims who fell under the spell of this evil Rasputin.

[THEDOC]

Still no new blog, I think we best put Nancy Grace on the case. I was sure the leather clad Earth2 version would had prompted some sort of response.

[JTPencils]

Here I thought it was the Earth X version... where the villians, are the heroes!

Guess I missed the memo on that one.

With no response, perhaps his keyboards been taken away from him?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Still no new blog, I think we best put Nancy Grace on the case. I was sure the leather clad Earth2 version would had prompted some sort of response.

Maybe his service was disconected . Thats what I'm thinking since he hasn't showed up in so long.

[Howler]

Maybe his service was disconected . Thats what I'm thinking since he hasn't showed up in so long.

I don't think it's a service disconnection but something is certainly up. Little Ricky goes through periods where he doesn't post his insane rambling blogs. So that part is fairly normal especially considering his very big screw up on the Free Comics blog and his M.O of being quiet for a bit after things like that.

However he's not even signing into his MySpace accounts, including the private profile, used to talk with his family one. Not only that but unless he smartened up and clicked the option of having Feedjit ignore his browser, it shows he hasn't even visited any of his blogs in 8+ days. Something is afoot for sure.

For those wishing to check in and see if he's showing his face online, a small collection of some of his online haunts.

There is 3 MySpace accounts.

http://www.myspace.com/mvcn
http://www.myspace.com/orcafresh_org
http://www.myspace.com/chandlerblood

There is 4 Blogger accounts.

http://sequentialsoul.blogspot.com/
http://freecomicskids.blogspot.com/
http://servedinkorea.blogspot.com/
http://woodgatefarmer.blogspot.com/

Plus a few miscellaneous sites.

http://clipper220.proboards66.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=rickolney
http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick_Olney/647368671

[Sarah Beach]

Not only that but unless he smartened up and clicked the option of having Feedjit ignore his browser, it shows he hasn't even visited any of his blogs in 8+ days. Something is afoot for sure.


It had not occured to me to look for his presence on the Feedjit record. I look at it occasionally because it amuses me that I show up all over the place. I suspect it's because I use my laptop's WiFi broadband card for internet access most of the time now, which apparently automatically randomizes the IP. It's a bit fun to see "where I am" each time.

[Howler]

It had not occured to me to look for his presence on the Feedjit record. I look at it occasionally because it amuses me that I show up all over the place. I suspect it's because I use my laptop's WiFi broadband card for internet access most of the time now, which apparently automatically randomizes the IP. It's a bit fun to see "where I am" each time.

Before I clicked to have my browser ignored I was listed as being from 4 different cities and never once was any of them where I actually live.

One interesting thing is when the Free Comics Blog entry with the address and name of that person was removed, little Ricky's city didn't show up on Feedjit in the hours before or since.

So that means he did have the browser ignore his city, possible I guess but doubtful since I don't think it would occur to him. Or like you and I, Feedjit is listing him from someplace else now than where he actually is. That I seriously doubt because it's been very good about always listing the right city for him.

So could little Ricky be telling the truth that there is 5 officers reading the blog and one of them is who removed it? It's possible. I don't doubt between Dennis, his wife/kids or someone local who doesn't know about what he has done, that he could easily have 5 officers for orca.

Here is something I noticed that someone who has a blog may know the answer to. If someone else has access to the Free Comics Blog, would their name show up in Rick's profile under the team members section? Because right before all this happened, Ricky removed his profile on all his blogs. So now you can't see the team members section. Perhaps he removed the profile to keep people from seeing who those 5 officers are if they in fact exsist.

[Samuel Catalino]

It had not occured to me to look for his presence on the Feedjit record. I look at it occasionally because it amuses me that I show up all over the place. I suspect it's because I use my laptop's WiFi broadband card for internet access most of the time now, which apparently automatically randomizes the IP. It's a bit fun to see "where I am" each time.

You are just one traveling lady, Sarah!

[Charles RB]

Not only that but unless he smartened up and clicked the option of having Feedjit ignore his browser, it shows he hasn't even visited any of his blogs in 8+ days. Something is afoot for sure.

I assume that something is seeing Matt Doc post evidence that he spoke to the Attorney General's office and Gail is contacting the Comics Journal, and then running off to hide in total fear.

[Samuel Catalino]

I assume that something is seeing Matt Doc post evidence that he spoke to the Attorney General's office and Gail is contacting the Comics Journal, and then running off to hide in total fear.

I doubt RO even cares about what Matt has done or is doing with the AG of NY, being that nothing has happened him after all this time.

As for TCJ, RO will probably wear that as a badge of honor, being TCJ dissed his hero Stan Lee some time ago.

Of course, I will be quite happy on the day RO really meets the van of Justice and it is meted out to him.

[Sarah Beach]

I had not noticed that he'd taken down even his profile! Heh. He is such a wibblely weeble.

:biggrin:

[Matt Algren]

I don't know if anybody else has mentioned it, but I just looked through olney's blog and he seems to have taken down the t-shirt picture.

[Sarah Beach]

You're right, Matt! He does seem to have taken it down.

I went back through a couple of pages of old posts, just to double check, but it's been deleted, at least as far back as 3 pages of posts.

However I did find something that amused me.

He has one post that's just a bunch of links -- to online articles about patriotism in comics, apparently. To justify his Freedom 3, I imagine.

But one link made me chuckle a great deal. It was to an interview with Beau Smith (posted on Beau's Busted Knuckles column). And I know why - because Sparkles got mentioned in it -- but not by BEAU


MICHAEL DEAN: I've seen at least one comic (Freedom 3) that attempts to replicate the Captain America cover wherein Cap punches Hitler ‹only with that title's protagonists substituted for Captain America and Osama bin Ladin substituted for Hitler. Arguably, there was an atmosphere of titanic struggles between good and evil during the 1940s that had a lot to do with the expansion of the superhero genre in comics. How would you compare that atmosphere to what we have today? Do you feel the public would welcome a heroic figure who kicks Arab ass? Or are things too complicated, scary or tragic in the war on terrorism for it to yield much in the way of straightforward adventure entertainment? If your villains are going to be Arabs, how do you draw a line to keep the story from tipping over into racism as the anti-Jap propaganda comics on the 1940s often did?

BEAU: Time has a way of healing and forgiving. But one thing time should never do is forget. We cannot learn, progress and move forward if we do not learn from what has come before. If we forget, we do not learn.


Beau continues on about the general issue of patriotism in comics. But he makes NO mention of Freedom 3 or its creator.

This was from early 2006, when Beau was hyping the (terrific!) Cobb: Off the Leash. So I'm not sure what he knew of Olney at the time, since Chuck had not gone public about anything Olney related then. But it all made me chuckle because when Chuck did go public, Beau was in on our email discussions of how to handle the paramecium on the Dixonverse board.

Sparkles will link to anything that mentions his name. No matter what. Heh. Stupid.

[Gail Simone]

He's worried about the article, which looks like it's going to be articleS.

Have a nice weekend, Rick.

[Guapo Méndez]

He's worried about the article, which looks like it's going to be articleS.

Have a nice weekend, Rick.

Today, like any other day, sucks to be Sick.

[bert]

folks. . it was tacky to go off on that pic of the Bear.

unless it's a photoshop, that poor guy has the unfortunate similarity to pRick, and it's a real shame that he's been made fun of.

that guy looks perfectly fine to me (despite the resemblance to pRick).

LOTs of gay men would find him attractive, and it's a shame he got made fun of for several posts.

[sunshinegirl]

It wasn't Rick?

[MacQuarrie]

yeah, Bert has a point. Granted, it's all playing off Prick's galloping homophobia, but it's not one of our more shining moments really.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

It wasn't Rick?

I actually thought it was Rick ! I was like...ok this is what he does in his off-time.

[Charles RB]

Well, I got the posts where Olney makes a return to YABS - this should be "fun"...

#13742 – Olney claims Tony Isabella is on “the shortlist for actionable libel” because of his warning post; Isabella claims out his warning would not legally count as libel

#13747 – Olney claims his threatened legal action is moving forward and tells YABS “a hard lesson is coming for a bunch of you”

#13751 – Unscrewed! anthology editor Typo Lad states to Olney that his motivation with the anthology is solely to get money for those Olney owns, rather than mock him

#13755 – Olney again insinuates he will end Gail Simone’s career

#13763 – Typo Lad directly asks Olney why he’s being evasive, and why he’s posting on the YABS thread as he seems uninterested in defending himself and only makes veiled threats

[Guapo Méndez]

yeah, Bert has a point. Granted, it's all playing off Prick's galloping homophobia, but it's not one of our more shining moments really.

Aye. Remove the bear.

[Gail Simone]

folks. . it was tacky to go off on that pic of the Bear.

unless it's a photoshop, that poor guy has the unfortunate similarity to pRick, and it's a real shame that he's been made fun of.

that guy looks perfectly fine to me (despite the resemblance to pRick).

LOTs of gay men would find him attractive, and it's a shame he got made fun of for several posts.

bert, I love ya as you know but I disagree with you on this one. No one's teasing the real bear guy. God bless him and may he find true happiness.

But that resemblance is uncanny, and in light of Rick's homophobia and porn fanfic, I think there is NO SANE RESPONSE to that photo other than hilarity.

:)

[Charles RB]

This is interesting, I had forgotten that Tom Stillwell had said a Writ of Garnishment had been issued against the Olneys. Any money ever come from that, Tom?


#13773 – Olney states his “legal side” will be talking to artist Benny Leal’s legal representation, after people brought up Leal’s earlier porn comic work and wondered Olney’s connection to them; claims people on YABS have sent harassing emails to his family and tried to hack him; insinuates Gail’s career is in some way vulnerable against action he could take, but claims “I am not at liberty to say anything else”

#13783 – Olney states Matt Doc will be the first person he takes legal action against, citing slander, libel, threats and harassment; says people communicating via YABS makes his legal actions easier

#13793 – Matt Doc responds

#13824 – Steve Forbes notes Olney has returned to YABS at the same time he left Jim Main’s egroup, and believes Olney left the group as they weren’t paying much attention to him

#13847 – word of Olney’s activities is spreading in the industry

#13855 – Tom Stillwell states a judge has now issues a Writ of Garnishment against Olney and Barbara Olney

#13861 – Olney states he will enjoy suing Mat Doc and insinuates Matt Doc will end up impoverished as a result

#13862 – Tony Isabella posts Olney’s threat against him on his message board, his MySpace and Comicspace, while again allowing people to copy-and-paste his warning about Olney

#13864 – Olney states Papergirl is going further up his list of legal targets

[Gail Simone]

Man, when is Rick going to use his mighty influence and amazing connections to destroy my career as he's been claiming for years?

I wish he'd hurry up!

[Charles RB]

Man, when is Rick going to use his mighty influence and amazing connections to destroy my career as he's been claiming for years?


Once he's done this year's conventions, brought up Tightlip, brought out Fresh and sent free comics to 10,000 more people...

Then he'll get right on and YOU'LL BE SORRY.

You'll ALL be sorry!

[JTPencils]

He's worried about the article, which looks like it's going to be articleS.

Have a nice weekend, Rick.

Articles? If it's based on this thread alone, it would be a series of entire magazines!

Sounds like there are enough facts to justify more then just one article though, and that's brilliant that it's being brought into the light... but sad that it's gone on so long that it requires it.

[Sally Sensational]

Man, when is Rick going to use his mighty influence and amazing connections to destroy my career as he's been claiming for years?

I wish he'd hurry up!

Sounds like a certain kudo-garnering, successful comic writer needs a vacation!

Make with the curses, Mr. Olney! Gail wants to go back to Disneyland and stop worrying about these silly "deadline to finish widely-read comic book" things!

[Samuel Catalino]

I don't know if anybody else has mentioned it, but I just looked through olney's blog and he seems to have taken down the t-shirt picture.

He will put it back up if it suits his fancy, and as far as I know, there is nothing that can stop him legally.

[JTPencils]

Man, when is Rick going to use his mighty influence and amazing connections to destroy my career as he's been claiming for years?

I wish he'd hurry up!

As busy as you've been Gail, you could probably use the rest!

[bert]

bert, I love ya as you know but I disagree with you on this one. No one's teasing the real bear guy. God bless him and may he find true happiness.

But that resemblance is uncanny, and in light of Rick's homophobia and porn fanfic, I think there is NO SANE RESPONSE to that photo other than hilarity.

:)

I was thinking mostly of this poor guy having his pic plastered all over *this* particular thread. . which comes up when you google several nasty things.

it looks to me like a pic from a "personals" or "bear" site. . . and he likely wouldn't be thrilled to have it here.

if it were pRick's head photoshopped onto the body? more power to us. But I think (and I could be mistaken), that this is a real pic, of someone who just happens to resemble the douche.

(and I loves ya right back :))

[TomStillwell]

This is interesting, I had forgotten that Tom Stillwell had said a Writ of Garnishment had been issued against the Olneys. Any money ever come from that, Tom?

I'm not really sure. I was told this by one of the parties that sued Rick and won a judgment but not someone who keeps up with this thread. I don't have a way to contact this person anymore.

[Howler]

But I think (and I could be mistaken), that this is a real pic, of someone who just happens to resemble the douche.

Yes the picture is real. I found it using a Google search for something unrelated to this thread and did a double take at the resemblence to little Ricky.

The original link to the picture is here. http://www.gaypaintings.com/magazine/images/sections/bear/chubby_gay_man.jpg

The actual page that has the picture is,
http://www.gaypaintings.com/magazine/index.php?name=Sections&req=viewarticle&artid=25

[JTPencils]

So that was a painting? (being serious for a moment). If that was a painting, then the artist is really good! Looked like a photo to me!

[Howler]

So that was a painting? (being serious for a moment). If that was a painting, then the artist is really good! Looked like a photo to me!

No it's a photo. The site may have painting in the URL, but there are many actual photos if you go through the pages.


if it were pRick's head photoshopped onto the body? more power to us.

I have too much time on my hands and just got Paint Shop Pro Photo X2, so this is my attempt to make up for posting the picture originally. It's a quick and dirty job, but I hear little Ricky likes it that way so it's fitting.

http://i33.tinypic.com/kb7g44.jpg

I just realized I am going to be the cause of a lot of nightmares with that picture. So I'm off for the weekend and maybe you'll all forgive me by Monday? ;)

[CoffeeStained]

Nobody is attacking the bear personally, though there are attacks related to the possibility of Ricky Retardo doing something similar... but no one here has a problem with homosexuality (afaik). If Paris Hilton happened to absolutely hate horses, there would be one of us who would find her equine equivilent (easily) and post it. It's not our fault nor the bear's that 'his kind' make the sprockets spin in Ricky's mind (nearly second gear!), but it does serve to freshly expose the wrong-mindedness of a reep whose flaws are so numerous, they tend to obscure his other flaws.

So the argument that we are abusing this man, I feel it is wrong. However, the issue of copyright and fair use? We really have no basis to use the image on those grounds. As artists and writers, we should be the most respectful of this man's copyright.

Which I suppose applies to my own 'el Mexicano' post, too.

[OzBat!]

*gouges eyes out*

NOT. WORK. SAAAAAAAFE!!

[Charles RB]

maybe you'll all forgive me by Monday? ;)

No. Never. :mad:

[sunshinegirl]

I actually thought it was Rick ! I was like...ok this is what he does in his off-time.

Yea, I totally thought it was him. I figured, eh, too each his/her own. Everyone takes sexy pictures. No big deal.



He will put it back up if it suits his fancy, and as far as I know, there is nothing that can stop him legally.

He'll put it back up when he decides I need 'punished' for speaking out or for Scott speaking out.

[Samuel Catalino]

Yea, I totally thought it was him. I figured, eh, too each his/her own. Everyone takes sexy pictures. No big deal.




He'll put it back up when he decides I need 'punished' for speaking out or for Scott speaking out.

You have RO's MO spot on. He is a petty person, and that is the nicest thing I can say about him.

[KJ_81]

Yea, I totally thought it was him. I figured, eh, too each his/her own. Everyone takes sexy pictures. No big deal.
.

If Rick's in them, 'sexy pictures' is a lie.

Add it to his pile.

*shudders

[THEDOC]

Yea, I totally thought it was him. I figured, eh, too each his/her own. Everyone takes sexy pictures. No big deal.




He'll put it back up when he decides I need 'punished' for speaking out or for Scott speaking out.

I thought how weird as the guy's tattoo looks like an anchor kinda like the logo I have RO use, or are my eyes deceiving me. o0

[Czarcasm]

2 days, 11 hours, and 20 minutes until "Fresh".

[THEDOC]

Not to derail but for every RO in our industry there are plenty of positive folks out there.
Take Clayton D. Murwin (AKA The Hero Maker), I'm paraphrasing here. He is in desperate need of a website designer to design a professional website for a Graphic Novel Project to help the families of Fallen and Injured soldiers. Here is the link to the temporary site he has set up. http://www.freewebs.com/herosfallen/ if you can or know someone who would be willing to help in this endeavor It would be very much appreciated. And it would help the soldiers and their families who have given so much! Please if you can, help him help the families and the soldiers. This isn't about politics just helping our fellow citizens.
You can contact Clayton at cmerwin6@verizon.net
Thanks,

[Flying Saucers Over Oz]

http://i33.tinypic.com/kb7g44.jpg




Gail's original concept for the 'Manazons' needed a lot of tweaking...

[Gail Simone]

2 days, 11 hours, and 20 minutes until "Fresh".

I bet it'll be EVERY BIT AS GOOD as Rick's haunted house attraction, 2008 Mighty Mini-con, and the entire line of Tightlip Entertainment comics!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm
2 days, 11 hours, and 20 minutes until "Fresh".

Ok this is a reason he's dissapeared. He knows we'd all laugh at that countdown . So he can show up weeks later and claim something happened to stop it. Ok... whats it gonna be...

1. Someone got sick

2. Someone died again

3. The Economy just isn't right for it

4. I'm such a busy man I have no time to launch this...and pushing the date back !

[Gail Simone]

Ok this is a reason he's dissapeared. He knows we'd all laugh at that countdown . So he can show up weeks later and claim something happened to stop it. Ok... whats it gonna be...

1. Someone got sick

2. Someone died again

3. The Economy just isn't right for it

4. I'm such a busy man I have no time to launch this...and pushing the date back !

Nah, it's going to be our fault somehow, I bet.

[JTPencils]

Nah, bet we find out he was called to Washington, so that he could give his input into the financial debacle!!

[Charles RB]

#13892 – Olney states he won’t be answering questions here

#13900 – Olney claims Gail Simone is a “token writer, imo”

#13912 – Olney states several lawyers have been reading the thread and legal action will take place “once the linking documentation is completed”; claims Chuck Dixon “screw[ed] himself” by ignoring his NDA, refers to the posters involved as “struggling ‘talents’ “

#13927 – Tony Isabella states he is receiving “grateful emails” from people for the warning; says he is following up one from someone who claims they were scammed by Olney twice

#13930 – Tom Stillwell has contacted Herkimer County Clerk; states Tightlip was reformed on 26th January 2007 (having been dissolved on the 11th), but this time without Barbara Olney as a partner

#13934 – Olney states he has photos of Tony Isabella and Tony’s son from MMC 2003, which he claims prove their experience wasn’t negative; says he can match any claim against the MMC with facts; says Tightlip is planning a “presentation set” for June

#13948 – Olney threatens action against Tom Stillwell; responds to Tightlip’s dissolving and reformation by lying outright that it wasn’t dissolved, instead claiming the reformation is proof that it was never dissolved

[Guapo Méndez]

Nah, bet we find out he was called to Washington, so that he could give his input into the financial debacle!!

If only more people posted to wish him a happy birthday, the crisis would have been averted.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

"I propose to comic book writer and pro , Chuck Dixon that we put aside me paying him what he is owed and go to the caves of Pakistan and hunt for Osama Bin Ladin !"

:tongue:

[Charles RB]

Of course that'll be the exact time Bin Laden decides to move to Portugal for his retirement years.

[JTPencils]

With a healthy pension no doubt. Costs money to haul around all that dialysis machinery.

[Darediva]

Wow, you guys have been busy in the past couple of weeks!

I still am amazed that I have met so many wonderful, warm, good-hearted people here on YABS, and it's all because some doofus from upstate New York found my quilts while surfing the web, then promised to fly me to his wonderful convention and treat me royally, even maybe setting up a little lecture at some surrounding libraries to show the quilts and talk about comics. (I have taken them to some libraries to talk about comics/GN to young reader groups, and the experience was amazing. I want to do it some more, and plan to when I get back on my feet again.)

The secondary thing about my near disaster with the pale whale was that he wanted to commission a quilt from me. I never relented on my insistence of a contract where I get half of the money up front for materials and supplies (fabric and the specialty threads I use are rather expensive up front), and he never got that "check in the mail within the next two weeks".

He wouldn't sign a contract, saying it was totally unnecessary to do so. (I could trust him. He was a Marine.) I told him that he expected a professional job, and I expected a contract, and money up front. Two years later, he was still badgering me about where his quilt was, in a Christmas card, no less! Thankfully, I never did anything beyond the basic design phase on paper.

Imagine my surprise when a friend told me she'd read about this guy on Fandom Wank, and wasn't he the same one who...

How many merchants/vendors/contractors outside of the comics field do you suppose he has cheated, in addition to the ones we know about here? He certainly tried to cheat me.

And he tried to get me to pay my own airfare to the Middlin'MonkeyCon, because he was too busy to make the arrangements for me, and he'd reimburse me when I got to the con. Oh, and make sure to bring the finished quilt, and I'll pay you for that, too. Uh huh.

Pay what you owe people, pRick.

[Czarcasm]

Unless he is posting somewhere other than his blog(is he?), it seems as if something has put the fear of ghod in pRick. Does anyone have any info to share?

[Gail Simone]

Wow, you guys have been busy in the past couple of weeks!

I still am amazed that I have met so many wonderful, warm, good-hearted people here on YABS, and it's all because some doofus from upstate New York found my quilts while surfing the web, then promised to fly me to his wonderful convention and treat me royally, even maybe setting up a little lecture at some surrounding libraries to show the quilts and talk about comics. (I have taken them to some libraries to talk about comics/GN to young reader groups, and the experience was amazing. I want to do it some more, and plan to when I get back on my feet again.)

The secondary thing about my near disaster with the pale whale was that he wanted to commission a quilt from me. I never relented on my insistence of a contract where I get half of the money up front for materials and supplies (fabric and the specialty threads I use are rather expensive up front), and he never got that "check in the mail within the next two weeks".

He wouldn't sign a contract, saying it was totally unnecessary to do so. (I could trust him. He was a Marine.) I told him that he expected a professional job, and I expected a contract, and money up front. Two years later, he was still badgering me about where his quilt was, in a Christmas card, no less! Thankfully, I never did anything beyond the basic design phase on paper.

Imagine my surprise when a friend told me she'd read about this guy on Fandom Wank, and wasn't he the same one who...

How many merchants/vendors/contractors outside of the comics field do you suppose he has cheated, in addition to the ones we know about here? He certainly tried to cheat me.

And he tried to get me to pay my own airfare to the Middlin'MonkeyCon, because he was too busy to make the arrangements for me, and he'd reimburse me when I got to the con. Oh, and make sure to bring the finished quilt, and I'll pay you for that, too. Uh huh.

Pay what you owe people, pRick.


What? RICK, paying his debts like a MAN?



See, your story is a perfect example of why Rick isn't a man at all. For a long time, Rick had a lot of us that he lied to and cheated believing that he had INTENDED to pay us all as promised, but circumstances had gotten in the way.

But time has proven that was never the case, and he made VERY METHODICAL plans to cheat everyone he could in the comics business. Here, he CLEARLY planned to scam you out of your hard work and talent, DD, and all his lying, scumbag tricks are in evidence...promising you the moon, crazy flattery, perks he had no intention of honoring, delays, fake outrage, on and on. He planned to take your work and pay you nothing, just as he's done with so many others.

He will never pay anyone willingly. That's just a given. If he were ever going to, he would have done so in all these years.

So what has to happen is the following:

1) Exposure. Keep these stories out in front of the public forever. NEVER stop talking about the dozens of people in the industry he's cheated. NEVER. The articles we're working on will help spread the word so he can't do this again.

2) Supporting Unscrewed and other efforts to help people cheated by scumbags.

3) Continue to put every possible bit of legal pressure that can be done to make sure that every effort to get these victims of Rick's lies and scams paid every cent possible, or, failing that, to make sure that he pays to the fullest extent of the law for his long list of victims.


Rick's thought for a long time that this is a game. But we're taking steps to end this game for good, legally, for all the people he's abused. It's no game, Rick. And your past is going to come back to haunt you like it's haunted all those people whose trust you stomped on.

[Gail Simone]

Unless he is posting somewhere other than his blog(is he?), it seems as if something has put the fear of ghod in pRick. Does anyone have any info to share?

He's laying low because of the articles, but it won't make a lick of difference, we have all the screencaps and exact quotes.

Rick's own words are going to fuck him up bad.

[Charles RB]

But time has proven that was never the case, and he made VERY METHODICAL plans to cheat everyone he could in the comics business.

It reminds me of Jeffrey Kramer talking about how he had an attempted bank robber as a patient, and the man recounted this massive, detailed, methodical plan the gang had worked out to rob the place...

...and he thought this was the easier path than getting a job, despite the skills showed in planning the robbery meant he could've done well at work.

If Olney had put as much thought into proper business plans and paying people as he does for avoiding paying people, he'd be the most loved man in comics.

[Charles RB]

Check out #13986, Olney actually says you legally have to follow the NDA even when he breaks the contract!

#13953 – Olney says Papergirl’s motivations are “suspect” when his not paying creators “doesn’t involve you”

#13960 – Dreadstar asks if Barbara Olney is absolved or not by Tightlip being reformed without her, as she was still a partner when the scams were committed

#13964 – Olney lies that Tightlip was never dissolved and its accounts have never changed; says he merely refilled to allow for expansion; claims he is having Tom Stillwell “formally investigated” as a potential threat to his family’s security, due to Tom mentioning Barbara Olney

#13968 – in response to Olney’s claim that photos show Tony Isabella having a good time at MMC 2003, Doc Absurd recounts how the week after the con, Olney phoned him and complained that Tony Isabella had given MMC a bad review

#13969, 13982 – Matt Doc and Tom Stillwell both point out it’s not illegal to repeat Barbara Olney’s name when her name is legally attached to Tightlip and this is public record

#13986 – Olney dismisses his earlier insults of people, saying they were “no effective counter slam”; states nobody has the facts re Tightlip and the creators involved, and that it’s “complex and secured with legal wordage only lawyers can untangle”; claims that NDA’s remain legally enforced even if the contract they’re part of is broken; lies that nobody has talked ill of the aggrieved creators [he has]

#13996 – Olney accuses Tom Stillwell of threatening and harassing his family

#14003 – Doc Absurd points out to Olney that his comments about the reformed Tightlip contradict each other

#14006 – MacQuarrie replies to Olney that if the legal wordage is that complex, it can only be because Olney wants it to be that complex to make dealings with him more difficult

#14017 – Tom Stillwell challenges Olney to list the harassments and threats he has made to Olney’s family

#14023 – Olney lies he didn’t want to drag Doc Absurd into this [he deliberately did so when commenting to LITG]; claims he has been holding back against Doc Absurd but Doc will now be “evaluated legally”; invites Doc to sue him

[Charles RB]

The best thing about doing this is now I know Tony's also has the Big Finish 2000AD audio dramas! Rock!

#14027 – Tony Isabella links to his review of MMC 2003, states it was not an “exceedingly kind” review and says he had a good time there for reasons unrelated to Olney; believes Olney was booted off his board for the third time after the review ran

#14030 – MacQuarrie asks Olney if he includes Doc Absurd when he says nobody has the facts about re Tightlip, pointing out Olney previously cited Doc Absurd to journalists as someone who could give them the facts; points out NDAs rarely cover breach of contract, asks if Olney’s NDAs have a clause that cover it

#14048 – Nat Gertler asks if when Olney says Tightlip has a “representation set” for June (#13934), he means that Tightlip will be publishing a comic and what its distribution is; asks if Olney’s plans were simply self-publishing, why did he hire mainstream writer Chuck Dixon

#14052 – Danny Donovan notes Olney is calling him “talentless troll” now, but he previously asked Danny to write for him and said he had a lot of talent

#14057 – Kurt Busiek points out one of Olney’s legal claims as garbled and nonsensical

#14058 – Olney claims Tony Isabella insulted his veteran status before, tells him “your liberal views are disgusting”; accuses Tony Isabella and Gail as lying about their MMC experiences to “bully and belittle the efforts done back then on your behalf”

#14060 – Olney insults Kurt Busiek

#14061, 14064 – Gail asks Olney to answer if he paid her husband’s airfare and fully reimbursed hers; Olney says he will answer “in court and not until”

#14065 – Doc Absurd states Olney has held back owed money from him for three years; recounts Olney claimed Doc was lying about going back to court with his ex; states he never signed anything that means he can’t say Olney owes him money, and Olney has just threatened him legally

[Linkara]

Check out #13986, Olney actually says you legally have to follow the NDA even when he breaks the contract!


I'd love to see what legal professor he learned that from. Mine is an actual lawyer. :biggrin:

And Charles, once again you deserve so much damn praise for compiling this list together. It can't be easy to slog through post after post of "goos night, pukee" and the like.

And since Olney hates seeing other people being successful, I'd like to reiterate as I did in the thread I started, REVOLUTION OF THE MASK WILL BE RELEASED OCTOBER 1ST! And I didn't need to steenkin' NDA in order to get it published. :biggrin:

[Sarah Beach]

Good for you, Linkara!

I'm sitting around home today, sort of twiddling my thumbs, waiting for UPS to come round. Because today (supposedly) my comp copies of my book are supposed to arrive! At last! I will be able to send out copies to those who (because of their help) deserve to get free copies, plus send out review copies to certain places, plus.... with an eye toward future employment, I'm sending copies to certain comic book editors and to studio story departments. Rah!

Once they arrive, I'll start making serious publicity moves. Although I've mentioned the book here and a couple of other places (and thanks to you who have actually at least LOOKED at the Amazon page -- even if nobody's ordered one yet :frown: *sniff* :wink: ), I haven't begun my serious advertising and hyping campaign. I just felt there wasn't much point in doing that until I had some copies in hand that I could send out if someone asked for a review copy.

This seemed like a reasonable means of proceeding, to me at least.

Unlike a certain Herkimer resident who cranks up the hype machine full throttle before he has ANYTHING to deliver. Well, other than "covers". It just goes to highlight how it was never really about making comic books for him. It was ALL about getting attention, just for himself. He didn't care if he ever actually got a book out into people's hands. All he cared about was making a big splash and having people go "Oh, what a cool idea! You're a genius to have come up with that! Tell me more!"

Heh.

[Linkara]

Good for you, Linkara!

I'm sitting around home today, sort of twiddling my thumbs, waiting for UPS to come round. Because today (supposedly) my comp copies of my book are supposed to arrive! At last! I will be able to send out copies to those who (because of their help) deserve to get free copies, plus send out review copies to certain places, plus.... with an eye toward future employment, I'm sending copies to certain comic book editors and to studio story departments. Rah!

Once they arrive, I'll start making serious publicity moves. Although I've mentioned the book here and a couple of other places (and thanks to you who have actually at least LOOKED at the Amazon page -- even if nobody's ordered one yet :frown: *sniff* :wink: ), I haven't begun my serious advertising and hyping campaign. I just felt there wasn't much point in doing that until I had some copies in hand that I could send out if someone asked for a review copy.

This seemed like a reasonable means of proceeding, to me at least.

Unlike a certain Herkimer resident who cranks up the hype machine full throttle before he has ANYTHING to deliver. Well, other than "covers". It just goes to highlight how it was never really about making comic books for him. It was ALL about getting attention, just for himself. He didn't care if he ever actually got a book out into people's hands. All he cared about was making a big splash and having people go "Oh, what a cool idea! You're a genius to have come up with that! Tell me more!"

Heh.

Good to hear your comp copies are coming, Sarah!

And yeah, it's amazing how much hype he raises up for absolutely nothing. It's like he reads Newsarama, assumes it's just about talking about things and not worrying about the actual product, and then just sits on his rear expecting money to come in, or the product itself becomes a secondary concern.

Have I made the comparison yet about how Independent International Pictures used to make films in the 1950s and 60s? ^_~ At least in their case they eventually did make a film, even if it didn't resemble the poster for it.

[Blake Petit]

Sarah, do you have the link to the Amazon page? I didn't realize the book was available for order yet. I've been a-waitin'. :D

[Sarah Beach]

Sure, Blake! The product link is at www.scribblersguidetomyth.com . That will take you right to it.

I need to double-check the title search on Amazon - the searchable title was entered incorrectly, and I don't know if they've fixed it yet. But the above link takes you to the product which is all you need.

:biggrin:


(I look forward to your reaction when you do get it. All feedback is appreciated!)

[THEDOC]

So when do the book signings start and when will you be in Chicago?? :biggrin:
Congrats btw.

[Blake Petit]

Consider it ordered. :)

[Flying Saucers Over Oz]

That ties into something Gail was talking about earlier, one of the basic truisms of being a professional writer, or a professional entertainer of any sort:

It's your job to entertain the audience. It's not the audience's job to be entertained by you.

If you're in this just as an ego-trip or because you want to be a S*T*A*R!!!, you're going to have major problems.

Edit: Should note, this is in reference to It, The Leeching Colossus, not Ms. Beach...

[Guapo Méndez]

One day and a wake-up before we found out the latest, failed, project.

Place your bets, folks. What will be his excuse?

2 to 1 he blames it on the death of Paul Newman.

[Danny Donovan]

One day and a wake-up before we found out the latest, failed, project.

Place your bets, folks. What will be his excuse?

2 to 1 he blames it on the death of Paul Newman.

Everyone knows he and Paul were very close friends. They had lots of touching conversations in the condiment aisle of the grocery store, as Rick painfully asks a bottle of Newmans Own Salad Dressing "What's a salad?"

[Danny Donovan]

That ties into something Gail was talking about earlier, one of the basic truisms of being a professional writer, or a professional entertainer of any sort:

It's your job to entertain the audience. It's not the audience's job to be entertained by you.

If you're in this just as an ego-trip or because you want to be a S*T*A*R!!!, you're going to have major problems.

Edit: Should note, this is in reference to It, The Leeching Colossus, not Ms. Beach...

But everything is still about ME right?

Also, let me say something, Rick can't find people for whom english isn't their fist language who will work for him. *I* just got off the phone with an artist asking me to work with him.

[Charles RB]

And since Olney hates seeing other people being successful, I'd like to reiterate as I did in the thread I started, REVOLUTION OF THE MASK WILL BE RELEASED OCTOBER 1ST!

Rock on. :smile:


One day and a wake-up before we found out the latest, failed, project.

Place your bets, folks. What will be his excuse?

He'll pretend he never gave a deadline for Fresh and we're lying.

(Being accused of lying by Olney? That's like being called fat by... er, also Olney.)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

That ties into something Gail was talking about earlier, one of the basic truisms of being a professional writer, or a professional entertainer of any sort:

It's your job to entertain the audience. It's not the audience's job to be entertained by you.

If you're in this just as an ego-trip or because you want to be a S*T*A*R!!!, you're going to have major problems.

Edit: Should note, this is in reference to It, The Leeching Colossus, not Ms. Beach...

There are tons of writers who do it for the love of the business. They love the industry and write for that reason . The days of MEGA STARS like Image is over with. That period where Dave Silvestre became such a star he was invited to the Playboy Mansion will likely never happen again.

Olney from whats described wanted... NEEDED that fame. From wanting everyone to know his birthday to the way he conducted and hyped his merits up countless times. It was all about the ego ....every post on every forum thats been linked here seems to have Olney go : "I'm Rick Olney , creator of Orca ..I've given away 140,000+ comics in Orca's history , founder of the Mighty Mini-Con , Spooky , ...."

Its like he needed the people to run to him like what Michael George had with Pitt Con. He wanted to be Wizard and run his own comics empire and conventions. To be this HUGE WHEEL.

One problem came up in his ego mess. He didn't have the cash to do this . And that wouldn't stop him ! Damn it... this was his dream !

[JTPencils]

Unlike a certain Herkimer resident who cranks up the hype machine full throttle before he has ANYTHING to deliver. Well, other than "covers".

Hey, they were nice covers (even if they were all homage covers). (pouts in his "quiet corner").

[NatGertler]

If you're in this just as an ego-trip or because you want to be a S*T*A*R!!!, you're going to have major problems.Lucky for me, I got into it for the money. But I stay in it for the groupies.

[Sarah Beach]

So when do the book signings start and when will you be in Chicago?? :biggrin:
Congrats btw.

Thanks on the congrats.

Book signings, I hope to start with in late October (here in LA). Going to Chicago.... maybe if I get more income! :wink:

This life of the freelance writer.... gosh! it's work!

[Sarah Beach]

Hey, they were nice covers (even if they were all homage covers). (pouts in his "quiet corner").

Now, now! They were indeed nice covers! Unfortunately, they didn't cover anything. All that good work wasted for a shell. You and the rest of the talent deserved far better!


(That better? :smile: )

[JTPencils]

*sniff*... Mom always use to give me a cookie....

I'm j/k. It is a shame that those covers will always be for nothing. But that's nothing new in this biz (especially if you're dealing with Sir Vile).

So you can order your book now Sarah? I'm no writer, but I do like to try to support others in their endeavors!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

*sniff*... Mom always use to give me a cookie....

I'm j/k. It is a shame that those covers will always be for nothing. But that's nothing new in this biz (especially if you're dealing with Sir Vile).

So you can order your book now Sarah? I'm no writer, but I do like to try to support others in their endeavors!

Ya know those who did the covers and issues of work could shop it around and find a publisher to publish it at some point. That to me would really get Olney... work he had done being published by someone else , leaving him in the dust.

[Linkara]

*sniff*... Mom always use to give me a cookie....

I'm j/k. It is a shame that those covers will always be for nothing. But that's nothing new in this biz (especially if you're dealing with Sir Vile).

So you can order your book now Sarah? I'm no writer, but I do like to try to support others in their endeavors!

Does this mean you'll be getting Rev of the Mask, too? :tongue:

I don't know if they'll necessarily be for NOTHING. You could always keep them around as sample works in a gallery or use them as references later on. By the by, I wouldn't mind seeing said covers since, you know, I like to look at what TALENTED people have to offer. ^_~

[Sarah Beach]

JT, yes, it's available now! Go to www.scribblersguidetomyth.com and use the product link. (Amazon still has the searchable title incorrect, but that won't affect any orders)

For a MERE $26.99 (plus shipping) you get a fabulous 432 pages of wonderful explanation of how mythic motifs work in storytelling. And heck, I cover things like time of day, the seasons, weather, and landscape, so there's stuff for visual storytellers too!

"Try it! You'll like it!"

:biggrin:

[Linkara]

JT, yes, it's available now! Go to www.scribblersguidetomyth.com and use the product link. (Amazon still has the searchable title incorrect, but that won't affect any orders)

For a MERE $26.99 (plus shipping) you get a fabulous 432 pages of wonderful explanation of how mythic motifs work in storytelling. And heck, I cover things like time of day, the seasons, weather, and landscape, so there's stuff for visual storytellers too!

"Try it! You'll like it!"

:biggrin:

*Starts a self-promotion war with Sarah!*

[Sarah Beach]

*Starts a self-promotion war with Sarah!*

LOL! Bring it on! We'll be MUCH better at it than the OrcaFlesh! Because we actually have something to SHOW people.

:biggrin: :wink:

[Czarcasm]

The new "Fresh" comes out in less than an hour. I trust someone will have a link to it when I get up tomorrow morning?:rolleyes:

[Linkara]

LOL! Bring it on! We'll be MUCH better at it than the OrcaFlesh! Because we actually have something to SHOW people.

:biggrin: :wink:

Exactly! :D

Speaking of, oh how I can't wait to see the issue of Fresh! What EVER will he cover? The top ten reach-arounds? Eleventy reasons why Gail Simone isn't her real name? Photos from the water-park/camping-trip/comic-con?

[Danny Donovan]

Not to steal Sarah's thunder, but I just whipped up a new collection of some of my old previously published work, and hopefully uploaded everything okay... :p Also included are tips to promote and market your work!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/coverfinal.jpg

http://www.lulu.com/content/4186904

Just a heads up for those that might be interested!

[JTPencils]

Does this mean you'll be getting Rev of the Mask, too? :tongue:

I don't know if they'll necessarily be for NOTHING. You could always keep them around as sample works in a gallery or use them as references later on. By the by, I wouldn't mind seeing said covers since, you know, I like to look at what TALENTED people have to offer. ^_~

I believe I've posted these before somewhere... so forgive me if I have...

Link, here they are (the one's that I did at least). They, and other stuff, can be seen over at the Unscrewed! site.

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/mediaobjects/disp/0/03af0b421e802e3b05737a0f804abce6.jpg

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/mediaobjects/disp/3/3d8ac6266191b9a9967382e921dcc489.jpg

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/mediaobjects/disp/6/6fc19e8eea994b45caae294ab6d2bb63.jpg

Thing is, there's really no way to shop these around for other publishers... due to the characters being NotWit's creation (and doubtful anyone else would WANT to... though these particular designs of said characters, belong to me... co-ownership being one of those things that he'd promise, then rescind upon one complaining about his non business ways...convoluted isn't it?). So in the port they sit, merely as samples. But I thank ya for asking to see them.

[JTPencils]

Sweet looking cover there Danny!

[Czarcasm]

Well, his timer says "COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!", but I'm not seeing that (I presume online, what with it coming out at exactly midnight and all) new issue of "Fresh".

[Charles RB]

The new "Fresh" comes out in less than an hour. I trust someone will have a link to it when I get up tomorrow morning?:rolleyes:

Should be out right now.

*checks*

It bloody isn't.

[Linkara]

Not to steal Sarah's thunder, but I just whipped up a new collection of some of my old previously published work, and hopefully uploaded everything okay... :p Also included are tips to promote and market your work!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/coverfinal.jpg

http://www.lulu.com/content/4186904

Just a heads up for those that might be interested!

(Quoted for next page)

A new challenger has appeared!

And JT, sadly I'm just seeing Red-Xs on the covers.

The new issue of Fresh isn't out?! What a surprise!

[Charles RB]

The solicit had promised such wonderful things:

* Bookstore Manga's Secret ORCA-rigin!

* Spotlight On: Prison APAs!

* Tony Isabella, Al-Qaeda Agent: Shocking Expose!

* Interview With My Attorney!

* Competition to benefit the Vatican!

[Gail Simone]

There wasn't ACTUALLY a solicit, was there?

I find this hilarious. Where the hell is he going to sell his fictional failure-rag?

Diamond doesn't know anything about it, retailers don't know anything about it and he's well-known as the deadbeat slimebag of the industry. No one remembers it from when it first came out and had a couple actually talented people working on it (note, that means not-Rick).

Man, it's the publishing success of the universe, even if it will never actually happen and is another in Rick's long, long, long, long, list of fanboy failures!

[KJ_81]

ORCA-rigin - wow, that just fails.

[Charles RB]

There wasn't ACTUALLY a solicit, was there?


Nah, I'm just messing.

I almost did a fake cover to go with that post, but couldn't be arsed.

[Linkara]

Nah, I'm just messing.

I almost did a fake cover to go with that post, but couldn't be arsed.

Hey, it's a truly reflective parody if it's half-arsed.

[Flamebird]

Should be out right now.

*checks*

It bloody isn't.

Surely you don't mean to say that he LIED? :eek:

[THEDOC]

Thanks on the congrats.

Book signings, I hope to start with in late October (here in LA). Going to Chicago.... maybe if I get more income! :wink:

This life of the freelance writer.... gosh! it's work!
Is this on your dime or is your publisher promoting you? Heck I'd fly ya out here to do some store signings, maybe help that there Tim fellow too.

[THEDOC]

Ya know those who did the covers and issues of work could shop it around and find a publisher to publish it at some point. That to me would really get Olney... work he had done being published by someone else , leaving him in the dust.

Man, I'd like to be in on that, but not cause of RO, I wouldn't even mention it in the books. I just want to see this stuff printed.

[THEDOC]

Not to steal Sarah's thunder, but I just whipped up a new collection of some of my old previously published work, and hopefully uploaded everything okay... :p Also included are tips to promote and market your work!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/coverfinal.jpg

http://www.lulu.com/content/4186904

Just a heads up for those that might be interested!

I'm buying that too though Danny and Sarah, can I order directly and pay extra for signed copies?

[THEDOC]

I believe I've posted these before somewhere... so forgive me if I have...

Link, here they are (the one's that I did at least). They, and other stuff, can be seen over at the Unscrewed! site.

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/mediaobjects/disp/0/03af0b421e802e3b05737a0f804abce6.jpg

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/mediaobjects/disp/3/3d8ac6266191b9a9967382e921dcc489.jpg

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/mediagallery/mediaobjects/disp/6/6fc19e8eea994b45caae294ab6d2bb63.jpg

Thing is, there's really no way to shop these around for other publishers... due to the characters being NotWit's creation (and doubtful anyone else would WANT to... though these particular designs of said characters, belong to me... co-ownership being one of those things that he'd promise, then rescind upon one complaining about his non business ways...convoluted isn't it?). So in the port they sit, merely as samples. But I thank ya for asking to see them.

The names are his but aren't the character designs still yours? Just change the name and dialog a bit.

[CoffeeStained]

Well, maybe it's a good thing OrcaFresh didn't come out, because it would probably be as fresh as a dead, beached whale. And you all know the most popular way to get rid of a dead, beached whale... dynamite.

So not only will his mag be ugly and stinky (a theme of his), but it will blow serious chunks.

[Guapo Méndez]

I heard ORCA zine is in fierce competition with one of Britain's greatest short novels:

"Once upon a time there was a lovely little sausage named Baldrick and it lived happily ever after."

[Sarah Beach]

Not to steal Sarah's thunder, but I just whipped up a new collection of some of my old previously published work, and hopefully uploaded everything okay... :p Also included are tips to promote and market your work!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/dannydonovan3/coverfinal.jpg

http://www.lulu.com/content/4186904

Just a heads up for those that might be interested!

Danny! What is WRONG with you!?! For such a practiced shameless self-promoter, you forgot the MOST IMPORTANT THING on that cover!

Like YOUR NAME!!!

:eek:

But cool on getting this together. Duely noted. Shall order a copy shortly.

[Sarah Beach]

Is this on your dime or is your publisher promoting you? Heck I'd fly ya out here to do some store signings, maybe help that there Tim fellow too.

Pretty much on my dime. I'm publishing it through BookSurge, which is Amazon's print-on-demand company. This comes with an automatic listing on Amazon (and discounts on some of their promotional tools). But I gots to do all the promo work myself. That's the "hard work" part! Heh.

But I'm applying myself to it. My comp copies arrived yesterday, so I can now send out review copies. In fact, in a few minutes, I'll be signing off to pack up a bunch to send out to various people.

[Linkara]

Pretty much on my dime. I'm publishing it through BookSurge, which is Amazon's print-on-demand company. This comes with an automatic listing on Amazon (and discounts on some of their promotional tools). But I gots to do all the promo work myself. That's the "hard work" part! Heh.

But I'm applying myself to it. My comp copies arrived yesterday, so I can now send out review copies. In fact, in a few minutes, I'll be signing off to pack up a bunch to send out to various people.

Speaking of, I checked out Booksurge for that other project that I mentioned to you. It looks fantastic... except for the price. ^^; I really can't afford $800 for a self-published book. Heck, I haven't made back the money for the first two self-published books I did through iUniverse. XD

So, is Fresh out yet? You know how I'm just shaking with anticipation over his thoughts and incites into the industry that he's not a part of! Whew, I need to sit down.

*Sits down and reads through the first issue of RotM*

[Danny Donovan]

Sweet looking cover there Danny!

Thanks!!!

I used the "sitting in my files collecting dust" cover from Nietzsche Falling #1 drawn by James Ritchey, III and inked by Mark Stegbauer, with purty colors by Sara Heiney-Ramierez...

Might as well get SOME mileage out of that thing. It's too pretty not to share.


I'm buying that too though Danny and Sarah, can I order directly and pay extra for signed copies?

Thanks Doc!

Actually, the only way at the moment is to just send it to me and I'll sign it and return it, or just wait until next con season. ;) I'm not going to have any of these on hand. They'll be available on the Lulu site, Amazon, in bookstores, etc etc. As the weeks and months go on.

Maybe next summer before I start doing more shows I will have a bunch sent to me to sell at a table, but aside from that I am always willing to mail stuff out! ^_^;


Danny! What is WRONG with you!?! For such a practiced shameless self-promoter, you forgot the MOST IMPORTANT THING on that cover!

Like YOUR NAME!!!

:eek:

But cool on getting this together. Duely noted. Shall order a copy shortly.


Thanks Sarah!

My name is on the spine of the book, on the "about the author" thing on the back cover, and on several of the stories within it. I really didn't want my name on the front cover because I already had too much text already on there.

Plus the book itself isn't really about ME, or any real desire to draw attention to myself, I really just wanted these stories back out in the public consciousness, especially the one I did with Nat, he drew such an AWESOME story.

Also, I wanted to make some quick cash. before the holidays. lol.

[Danny Donovan]

Speaking of, I checked out Booksurge for that other project that I mentioned to you. It looks fantastic... except for the price. ^^; I really can't afford $800 for a self-published book. Heck, I haven't made back the money for the first two self-published books I did through iUniverse. XD

So, is Fresh out yet? You know how I'm just shaking with anticipation over his thoughts and incites into the industry that he's not a part of! Whew, I need to sit down.

*Sits down and reads through the first issue of RotM*

go through lulu. It's a really good service. All free too, you can buy larger packages, but they have free isbns and free google placement, so you don't really need their $100.00 "platinum package"

[Linkara]

go through lulu. It's a really good service. All free too, you can buy larger packages, but they have free isbns and free google placement, so you don't really need their $100.00 "platinum package"

Whoa, whoa, whoa - since when did they have free isbns? Yeah, they have free service (since I couldn't afford to use iUniverse for the third book [and because I wanted to set the price myself], I used Lulu for it), but free ISBNs, too? I thought you had to get the $100 package for that?

[NatGertler]

I really just wanted these stories back out in the public consciousness, especially the one I did with Nat, he drew such an AWESOME story.Just in case any regulars here were confused: Nat Jones. Not me.
Actually, the only way at the moment is to just send it to me and I'll sign it and return it, or just wait until next con season.What I do is get some mailing labels for my laser-printer, print a book-specific image on them, sign them, then mail them out as bookplates.

[Danny Donovan]

Whoa, whoa, whoa - since when did they have free isbns? Yeah, they have free service (since I couldn't afford to use iUniverse for the third book [and because I wanted to set the price myself], I used Lulu for it), but free ISBNs, too? I thought you had to get the $100 package for that?

I dunno when they started it. But you just have to agree to let lulu be listed as your publisher on Amazon.com, while you keep all your copyrights, and they will assign you an ISBN. It's part of their "Published by Lulu" program.

ISBN is free, and google placement is free.



Just in case any regulars here were confused: Nat Jones. Not me.What I do is get some mailing labels for my laser-printer, print a book-specific image on them, sign them, then mail them out as bookplates.

right! Nat Jones! Sorry I didn't mean to confuse.

That is actually a really good idea!!! I think I shall steal it! :p

[THEDOC]

Pretty much on my dime. I'm publishing it through BookSurge, which is Amazon's print-on-demand company. This comes with an automatic listing on Amazon (and discounts on some of their promotional tools). But I gots to do all the promo work myself. That's the "hard work" part! Heh.

But I'm applying myself to it. My comp copies arrived yesterday, so I can now send out review copies. In fact, in a few minutes, I'll be signing off to pack up a bunch to send out to various people.

Hmm maybe I can get the big chain in town Graham Cracker Comics to under write you coming out (maybe Danny too though his name is not on his book).:cool:

[Sarah Beach]

Hmm maybe I can get the big chain in town Graham Cracker Comics to under write you coming out (maybe Danny too though his name is not on his book).:cool:

Go for it. Right now my schedule is pretty open even if my budget is fairly limited. I'd even be willing to do a little seminar apropos comic book writing and mythic motifs if that will juice it.

You can contact me by email if you want to chase this further. :biggrin:

[Linkara]

Go for it. Right now my schedule is pretty open even if my budget is fairly limited. I'd even be willing to do a little seminar apropos comic book writing and mythic motifs if that will juice it.

You can contact me by email if you want to chase this further. :biggrin:

It's probably a silly idea, but I could always give you the contact info for my Barnes and Noble's community relations manager who manages book signings and the like and see if she'd be interested in bringing you all the way out to the great north for a signing. ^^

You know, even if I'm aiding my enemy in the self-promotion war. XD *Buy Revolution of the Mask tomorrow!*

[Danny Donovan]

Hmm maybe I can get the big chain in town Graham Cracker Comics to under write you coming out (maybe Danny too though his name is not on his book).:cool:

I wanna go! A friend of mine used to work for Graham Cracker Comics!!!

Remember, I must have a jar of green M&Ms in my dressing room and that blonde cheerleader from Heroes. I don't care if she's dating emo Peter. :p

[MacQuarrie]

I dunno when they started it. But you just have to agree to let lulu be listed as your publisher on Amazon.com, while you keep all your copyrights, and they will assign you an ISBN. It's part of their "Published by Lulu" program.

ISBN is free, and google placement is free.
This makes it almost economically feasible for me to finally write "What Your Daddy Never Told You Because the Poor Dumb SOB Didn't Know it Himself".

Now all I need are some 36-hour days and a few 15-day weeks and we'll be good to go.

[Charles RB]

Two more pages! Death to the Strontium Gods!

#14078 – Kurt Busiek notes that Olney previously said he was going to sue Tony Isabella for libel, but is now saying he hasn’t talked to his lawyer about Tony but will now; notes this means Olney’s done empty legal threats as intimidation

#14083 – Matt Doc brings up how Olney made an empty threat about sending the police after him eight weeks ago; claims he called the police to ask them about this, and they were unaware of any complaint against him

#14088 – Gail posts an Olney email from 2003, where he promised a reimbursement cheque would be in the mail shortly; states he lied about this, as well as every other time he promised reimbursement

#14093, 14094 – Gail Simone pastes an Olney exchange where she asked for Mike Kaluta’s email; states Olney kept trying to duck giving her the email, says he appeared to not want MMC 2003 guests comparing notes

#14096 – another Olney email: he again promises reimbursement for Gail, and claims MMC 2004 guests will be paid upfront

#14098 – as above: Olney also tries to pass blame off on other comic creators