Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Daneault]

That's it! I know who is lawyer is!

Ever seen Fight Club?

What WOULD Tyler Durden do?

[Solaris]

Gail,

Sometimes you are berry sweet but other times your humor is plain.

Whatever, we really knead you and just roll with it.

She Sprinkles her posts with lots of little GEMS, you know. As a punster, she's non-pareiled! Yes S'No Caps can do her justice!

As for Olney, by this point I think he's deep-fried and moisted by his own pre-lard. (Fifty points if you get the really obscure pun at the end of that sentence---I was really reaching for it.)

:D

[Sarah Beach]

You know, he could be deluding himself that changing all those posts is like changing a hyperlink. Except that had he even paid any attention, he'd note that it is a COPY function, not a LINK function we all use.

Pffft.

[Matt Doc Martin]

And I'd like to take a moment to suck up.


Ms. Simone, I haven't read a whole lot of your work. I bought Villains United and loved it, but I am a Marvel Zombie.

If you did the Punisher appearances in Deadpool and Agent x, I have those as well. (I am a Punisher nut)

Mr. Busiek: I have purchased Marvels and a few Astro City trades. I enjoyed them immensely.

Mr Waid: I own Kingdom Come and I bought the FF stories you did with Mike Wieringo (I believe they were 489, #496-500, 501-511)


You are all top flight in my book. I hope to get a chance to meet you all at a con someday.

[Gail Simone]

Interesting story by the very sweet Sean McKeever...

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?p=2595609&posted=1#post2595609

[Gail Simone]

Interesting story by the very sweet and talented Sean McKeever...

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?p=2595609&posted=1#post2595609

[PatrickG]

That's it! I know who is lawyer is!

Ever seen Fight Club?

Yes... And I didn't realize Meat Loaf was practicing law.

Though, I admit I'd like a rock opera defense team in the event that I'm ever in a court room and screwed as bad as Rick Olney; at least my last moments of dignity would be entertaining.

[Chris N]

A really clever person might go here: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/search.php?searchid=2126691

and start saving posts like a madman or mad woman... ;)

I got everything I found interesting starting with post 2362. He beat me to the rest. But Gail and Doc Matt seem to have copies.

[Buckminster Futter]

Welcome, Josh. Contrary to the responses to some of the stinky one's comments, we're a very nice group here and retailers are always welcome.

Where's your store, may I ask?

Gail

I don't want to come across as paranoiac, but I'd be a little wary of overly humble and polite new posters signing on to the boards just as The Stinky One is in the midst of a mass-deleting frenzy, especially when both Google and Yellow Pages searches yield no trace of a X-treme Comics and Collectibles, Inc. store in Boca Raton, Florida. Reek does have a history of creating myriad sock puppets during his meltdowns.

I'm just sayin'.

[Cam63]

Oh, and I wanted to say, long ago.... This morning, when I checked in here before heading off to work, and read Mark Waid's lovely post on page 260, I wanted to stand up and cheer! It brought tears to my eyes.

Impressive humanity! I hope Mark gets standing ovations at every con he appears at this year. He is a credit to the profession. And an inspiration.

If he doesn't get a standing ovation, I'll have electrodes attached to all the chair seats at the next one he attends.

[Buckminster Futter]

Welcome, Josh. Contrary to the responses to some of the stinky one's comments, we're a very nice group here and retailers are always welcome.

Where's your store, may I ask?

Gail

I don't want to come across as paranoiac, but I'd be a little wary of overly humble and polite new posters signing on to the boards just as The Stinky One is in the midst of a mass-deleting frenzy, especially when quick Google and Yellow Pages searches yield no trace of a X-treme Comics and Collectibles, Inc. store in Boca Raton, Florida. Reek does have a history of creating myriad sock puppets during his meltdowns.

I'm just sayin'.

Edit: Sorry...impatience caused the double post.

[Chris N]

A really clever person might go here: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/search.php?searchid=2126691

and start saving posts like a madman or mad woman... ;)

I got everything I found interesting starting with post 2362. He beat me to the rest. But Gail and Doc Matt seem to have copies.

Oh, except the responnses to Waid. Damn. Damn.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Enh.

As much as I hate to admit it, it might have worked if he'd held his own and come across as some kind of intelligent maverick. Granted, if he his IQ and the waistline on his pants weren't in such fierce competition with one another, he would have started by paying people he owed BEFORE suing them for NDA breaches.

Which, y'know, that's still possible seeing as how he has yet to do either one.

Had he managed to not erupt into a breakdown and kept it clear and said " No Comment " or " Talk to the PR of my company " . Or answered better he could have done it.

[Blake Petit]

She Sprinkles her posts with lots of little GEMS, you know. As a punster, she's non-pareiled! Yes S'No Caps can do her justice!

As for Olney, by this point I think he's deep-fried and moisted by his own pre-lard. (Fifty points if you get the really obscure pun at the end of that sentence---I was really reaching for it.)

:D

What is a pitard, anyway?

[Magneto_X]

So this is going to be like a Union of sorts?

Ever since I wanted to be a comic creator I've wanted the industry to have a union (or a similar organization) to protect its workers.

But I have discovered (either via the net and/or magazines) that the reason it never materialized is because the publishers blacklist anyone involved in that sort of thing and generally done everything to kill it before it could get any power.

Which is a shame. The comics industry is literally filled with wonderful and talented people who deserve to be compensated for their work.

[Matt Doc Martin]

What is a pitard, anyway?

"Petard"


A petard was a medieval small bomb used to blow up gates and walls when breaching fortifications.
The word remains in modern usage in the phrase to be hoisted by one's own petard, which means "to be harmed by one's own plan to harm someone else" or "to fall in one's own trap". Shakespeare coined the now proverbial phrase in Hamlet.

[Gail Simone]

It's true that Rick has been busted before for his feeble sock puppets (all have terrible grammar, use words improperly, and are spelled with the sort of random abandon with which toddlers control their bladders).

We're keeping an eye out, but I'm not worrying about it much. Rick always gets caught. He's just not that bright.

Gail

[Wil Radcliffe]

Solaris, thanks for the info on Wiccan/Pagan beliefs. I'm pretty firmly entrenched in my own faith, but I'm always eager to learn about the beliefs and practices of others!

[Matt Doc Martin]

It's true that Rick has been busted before for his feeble sock puppets (all have terrible grammar, use words improperly, and are spelled with the sort of random abandon with which toddlers control their bladders).

We're keeping an eye out, but I'm not worrying about it much. Rick always gets caught. He's just not that bright.

Gail

See folks? This is a REAL writer.

Beats pRick's mixed metaphors and random alliteration.

[Blake Petit]

"Petard"


A petard was a medieval small bomb used to blow up gates and walls when breaching fortifications.
The word remains in modern usage in the phrase to be hoisted by one's own petard, which means "to be harmed by one's own plan to harm someone else" or "to fall in one's own trap". Shakespeare coined the now proverbial phrase in Hamlet.

Ah, thanks. :) The English Teacher in me is always grateful for a vocabulary lesson.

[Solaris]

25 points each to Blake and to Matt! :D

[Cam63]

That's it. I sentence you to being forced to read Reeky Rick's writing forever!

hahahahahha!

Gail

Cruel and unusual...

Hmm... Maybe a public stoning would be nicer.

[Howler]

I just noticed it says Banned under Reek's name when I was looking to see how many posts he's edited so far.

It's a shame, I'll never get to tell him that I discovered a second Star Wars character was named after him.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/creature/reek/index.html

[Matt Doc Martin]

25 points each to Blake and to Matt! :D

Are the points redeemable for anything?

Should I try to save up more?

[Blake Petit]

25 points each to Blake and to Matt! :D

Cool. :cool:

How many points do you need to get the football phone?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

Changing it to this ? Darn ...I pity the guy. Now I know he must be scared and wants to try and delete anything he may have said . Of course Gail and others have copies....

[amboy00]

I got everything I found interesting starting with post 2362. He beat me to the rest. But Gail and Doc Matt seem to have copies.

Oh, except the responnses to Waid. Damn. Damn.What do you think the odds are that CBR has a backup of the DB? They probably have a weeks worth of backup history.

Anyone?

[PatrickG]

Wow. I can finally SEE his avatar now.

So.

Thor apparently thought he was a vampire being controlled by a creepy t-shirt and took him out?

[PatrickG]

BTW, the left hand of the hammer-wielding dude on Olney's avatar...?

Looks like it's trying to make Olney do the Pilsbury Doughboy laugh.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Changing it to this ? Darn ...I pity the guy. Now I know he must be scared and wants to try and delete anything he may have said . Of course Gail and others have copies....

I don't have everything he posted here, but I have quite a few pages. I have nearly the first 1000 posts copied, plus the page with the blatant threat. I alos have copies of posts of his from other sources and places on the web with meltdowns...including where I poached my Olney signature from.

[Mike Bullock]

And now for something completely different:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9315

Buy this book so I Bob and I can ease the financial loss caused by "Reek".

[Matt Doc Martin]

I don't have everything he posted here, but I have quite a few pages. I have nearly the first 1000 posts copied, plus the page with the blatant threat. I also have copies of posts of his from other sources and places on the web with meltdowns...including where I poached my Olney signature from.

And frankly, I am SICK of the unrealistic portrayals of people in comics. Look at that picture of Owe-ney. Nowheer near enough gut!

[Matt Doc Martin]

I don't have everything he posted here, but I have quite a few pages. I have nearly the first 1000 posts copied, plus the page with the blatant threat. I also have copies of posts of his from other sources and places on the web with meltdowns...including where I poached my Olney signature from.

And frankly, I am SICK of the unrealistic portrayals of people in comics. Look at that picture of Owe-ney. Nowhere near enough gut!

[Solaris]

Are the points redeemable for anything?

Should I try to save up more?


The points are redeemable for a table dance... but you guys have to come to Atlanta to get it, and you have to have 100,000 points.

:D

[Blake Petit]

And now for something completely different:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9315

Buy this book so I Bob and I can ease the financial loss caused by "Reek".

Dude, you're writing Phantom now? Cool! Is this an ongoing gig, or just for this arc?

Either way, it's going on my pull list. :)

[Gail Simone]

everyone save what they've copied...we're going to put it all together in one big file of filth, gay-bashing, woman-hate, and physical threats.

Threaten and cheat people? You deserve what happens to you.

Gail

[Wil Radcliffe]

And now for something completely different:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9315

Buy this book so I Bob and I can ease the financial loss caused by "Reek".

I have a nifty new Phantom bookmark that will go well with that! :)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The only problem now is the fact that with Rick banned he'll run to a blog or a site and proclaim how he showed up all the pros on the board and how he was banned for no reason. Had they not banned him he couldn't really have yet another thing to proclaim himself on.

[Mike Bullock]

Dude, you're writing Phantom now? Cool! Is this an ongoing gig, or just for this arc?

Either way, it's going on my pull list. :)

Yep, I'm onboard for the foreseeable future.

I'm working on issue #20 right now. :)

The annual comes out the same day as issue 14 as well, with stories from Chuck Dixon, Tony Bedard, Ron Marz, Rafeal Nieves and yours truly. I think Jonah will be running a preview of that next week...

[EdContradictory]

Oh. Looks like he's been banned.

Guess we don't have to worry about him changing anything else.

[jimmything2681]

dammit. Late to the party, again.

Anyway, i love how he doesn't dare draw the stake over the replacement heart.

too low?

[Wil Radcliffe]

Has he actually been banned? Or did he just put that under his avatar as a ploy for sympathy?

[Matt Algren]

Looks like he got from the beginning of the thread through 6:30pm Saturday. And there are a lot of posts between then and last night. As others have pointed out, people have been pdf'ing the thread from time to time, so I'm sure it's all somewhere.

[TCJohnson]

Just as a note: Putting Banned under your name will actually get you banned for real.

[Sarah Beach]

Has he actually been banned? Or did he just put that under his avatar as a ploy for sympathy?

I think it's for real, Wil. If you do a poster search, on page 7 of his posts, nothing has been changed in the last 15 minutes. I was looking because he'd gotten that far, and was 2 below one where he was (falsely) claiming (again) that Chuck Dixon had indeed signed an NDA. I'd copied that whole post, meaning to repost it here, just out of spite.

But hee.

Still... you know, he's deleted posts on his own blog where he was being jerkish and border-libelous. He's an idiot.

[TCJohnson]

I am a little sad. I wanted to see the grovelling part.

[Gail Simone]

Rick is not banned.

His username, 'orcafresh' is temporarily blocked to stop him from revising all his posts while we make sure it's all copied for those who wish to follow legal action.

He can still post under any different name, he just can delete his threats and gay-bashing and insults and lies.

So no, not banned at all. Just prevented from revisionism.

Gail

[Wil Radcliffe]

I think it's for real, Wil. If you do a poster search, on page 7 of his posts, nothing has been changed in the last 15 minutes. I was looking because he'd gotten that far, and was 2 below one where he was (falsely) claiming (again) that Chuck Dixon had indeed signed an NDA. I'd copied that whole post, meaning to repost it here, just out of spite.

But hee.

Still... you know, he's deleted posts on his own blog where he was being jerkish and border-libelous. He's an idiot.

(Deleted due to relevance.)

[colleen]

Thanks for posting further info about Olney's claims regarding his military service. Using the information provided, still no luck finding any record of service. That assumes he has given his real name and is being truthful about other info, of course.

Under the Freedom of Information Act, and private citizen can request a limited amount of data about a serviceman's record. However, I still lack important information about Olney, and he would not provide any pertinent information to back up his service claims.

"Preparing Requests for Information from Official Military Personnel Files:

Federal law [5 USC 552a(b)] requires that all requests for records and information be submitted in writing. Each request must be signed (in cursive) and dated (within the last year). Certain basic information is needed to locate military service records. This information includes the veteran's complete name used while in service, service number, social security number, branch of service, date of birth, place of birth, and dates of service.

To request military service records, veterans and the next-of-kin of deceased veterans may use vetrecs.archives.gov. For all others, use the Standard Form (SF) 180, Request Pertaining to Military Records. Although not mandatory, the SF 180 is the recommended method to send a request for military service information. This form captures all the necessary information to locate a record. Provide as much information on the form as possible and send copies of any service documents that you may have. Requests may also be submitted as a letter, containing the basic information listed above.

Follow the instructions for preparing the SF 180. Check the table to determine the location of the record and submit your request to the appropriate address.

Note: Do not use the addresses on the SF 180 for sending requests related to the issuance or replacement of medals and awards. Military Awards and Decorations provides the correct mailing addresses for submitting correspondence for issuance or replacement."


I am very interested to find out if his claim at having served in Norfolk is correct. He'd better be telling the truth. My father was Chief of Security there. I can prove it. I'll be happy to post evidence on request. Too bad Olney refused to do the same.




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[EdContradictory]

Rick is not banned.

His username, 'orcafresh' is temporarily banned to stop him from revising all his posts while we make sure it's all copied for those who wish to follow legal action.

He can still post under any different name, he just can delete his threats and gay-bashing and insults and lies.

Gail
Excellent.

I've never understood why CBR allows unlimited post-changing.

[Gail Simone]

Thanks for posting further info about Olney's claims regarding his military service. Using the information provided, still no luck finding any record of service. That assumes he has given his real name and is being truthful about other info, of course.

Under the Freedom of Information Act, and private citizen can request a limited amount of data about a serviceman's record. However, I still lack important information about Olney, and he would not provide any pertinent information to back up his service claims.

"Preparing Requests for Information from Official Military Personnel Files:

Federal law [5 USC 552a(b)] requires that all requests for records and information be submitted in writing. Each request must be signed (in cursive) and dated (within the last year). Certain basic information is needed to locate military service records. This information includes the veteran's complete name used while in service, service number, social security number, branch of service, date of birth, place of birth, and dates of service.

To request military service records, veterans and the next-of-kin of deceased veterans may use vetrecs.archives.gov. For all others, use the Standard Form (SF) 180, Request Pertaining to Military Records. Although not mandatory, the SF 180 is the recommended method to send a request for military service information. This form captures all the necessary information to locate a record. Provide as much information on the form as possible and send copies of any service documents that you may have. Requests may also be submitted as a letter, containing the basic information listed above.

Follow the instructions for preparing the SF 180. Check the table to determine the location of the record and submit your request to the appropriate address.

Note: Do not use the addresses on the SF 180 for sending requests related to the issuance or replacement of medals and awards. Military Awards and Decorations provides the correct mailing addresses for submitting correspondence for issuance or replacement."


I am very interested to find out if his claim at having served in Norfolk is correct. He'd better be telling the truth. My father was Chief of Security there. I can prove it. I'll be happy to post evidence on request. Too bad Olney refused to do the same.




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I say again, OUCH.

Gail

[Cam63]

I'd love to hear the stink he's kicking up right now. :D

...and yes, the pun is intended.

Rick, you are SOOOO screwed.

[Cam63]

Does watching " The Sands of Iwo Jima " qualify for Marine status ?

[Matt Doc Martin]

everyone save what they've copied...we're going to put it all together in one big file of filth, gay-bashing, woman-hate, and physical threats.

Threaten and cheat people? You deserve what happens to you.

Gail

I just spent the last few going through a step ahead of olney and copying threads to PDF files. I got all of yesterday's meltdown.

haHA, Olney, you sick, twisted fucktard!

[Josh Simon]

I don't want to come across as paranoiac, but I'd be a little wary of overly humble and polite new posters signing on to the boards just as The Stinky One is in the midst of a mass-deleting frenzy, especially when both Google and Yellow Pages searches yield no trace of a X-treme Comics and Collectibles, Inc. store in Boca Raton, Florida. Reek does have a history of creating myriad sock puppets during his meltdowns.

I'm just sayin'.

I can understand your Paranoia. I'll assure you this isn't...what were the words..."the Stinky one"?

Anyway I can explain why the X-treme Comics and Collectibles doesn't come up on a search yet. The Store was the north location of a shop called, Popular comics. This past week the store was purchased and our Ficticous name was just applied for this week. Usually it takes the state of florida one to two weeks to process the application before we can use the name. For right now the shop is still under Popular Comics. But, that will all change as feburary 1st. I'll keep you updated, and we will have a booth at Mega Con so feel free to stop by and say Hi.

[Chris N]

Looks like he got from the beginning of the thread through 6:30pm Saturday. And there are a lot of posts between then and last night. As others have pointed out, people have been pdf'ing the thread from time to time, so I'm sure it's all somewhere.

I got ahead of him at 1:12 Saturday. Didn't copy all his posts after that point. But all my favorites. I'll be posting a digest of this thread on my website with links to the stuff that seems most damning to me. A lot of what Doc Absurd and Mike Bullock and Mark Waid had to say.

And then what Rick said to damn himself. Unfortunately half of what I made up is at present links to killed posts. But I'll being going through quotes of said posts and copying his words over in their place. This way people can get a sense of the grievance against this guy without having to read this whole insane thread.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh. Looks like he's been banned.

Guess we don't have to worry about him changing anything else.

Ahahahahahahaha!

And HEY Jimmything!

[Matt Doc Martin]

I can understand your Paranoia. I'll assure you this isn't...what were the words..."the Stinky one"?

Anyway I can explain why the X-treme Comics and Collectibles doesn't come up on a search yet. The Store was the north location of a shop called, Popular comics. This past week the store was purchased and our Ficticous name was just applied for this week. Usually it takes the state of florida one to two weeks to process the application before we can use the name. For right now the shop is still under Popular Comics. But, that will all change as feburary 1st. I'll keep you updated, and we will have a booth at Mega Con so feel free to stop by and say Hi.

I will be there. What will your booth number be?

[Kurt Busiek]

Looks like he got from the beginning of the thread through 6:30pm Saturday. And there are a lot of posts between then and last night. As others have pointed out, people have been pdf'ing the thread from time to time, so I'm sure it's all somewhere.

He probably went into panic mode as soon as someone mentioned the local TV news reporters.

kdb

[colleen]

Does watching " The Sands of Iwo Jima " qualify for Marine status ?

Heh.

Dad was actually Chief of Police a long time after Olney claims to have been there, but if Olney has been untruthful about his record of service, he will be discussed.

And while my dad was a Marine, he's no fake, and doesn't make big claims he can't back up. He was discharged with a heart murmer. Nowadays, a heart murmer will not get you discharged, but in the 1950's, they thought stress would give you a heart attack.

So, he became a cop.

My brother was in the Corps about 7 years. He also became a cop.


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[Matt Doc Martin]

If anyone wants a copy of what I have, PM me. I can send a disk with everything have gathered.

[Cam63]

My respects to your dad, Colleen.

[Josh Simon]

I will be there. What will your booth number be?


I honestly don't know, My boss"The owner, mister big cheese", has all the megacon info. I can find out though and I'll post it.

[Solaris]

Heh.

Dad was actually Chief of Police a long time after Olney claims to have been there, but if Olney has been untruthful about his record of service, he will be discussed.

And while my dad was a Marine, he's no fake, and doesn't make big claims he can't back up. He was discharged with a heart murmer. Nowadays, a heart murmer will not get you discharged, but in the 1950's, they thought stress would give you a heart attack.

So, he became a cop.

My brother was in the Corps about 7 years. He also became a cop.


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Re: this and your former post, may I say that you totally rock. :D

I'm requesting confirmation from another angle of this... hope to hear from my contacts (who are in a better position than me to get the real info) later tonight. Gotta run now---it's off to the airport with us! :)

[Wil Radcliffe]

I've also reported Rick to Preditors and Editors (http://www.anotherealm.com/prededitors/), a web site that specializes in information on good and bad publishers, agents, and such. Not necessarily comic book specific, but I figured it couldn't hurt. They're responded asking for documentation, which I intend to send them.

I urge any other creators with grievances against Rick to contact them as well. They'll put a nice entry on him in their database so that other creators will be warned.

Their e-mail address is...

prededitors@att.net

[Draconomicon]

If anyone wants a copy of what I have, PM me. I can send a disk with everything have gathered.


On a side note, whenever I read your name it registers to me as: "Mad Dog Martigan" and THIS picture flashes in front of my eyes :x
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/50/fantasy12hn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Which is not a bad thing. Mad Martigan rocked!

[Josh Simon]

I will be there. What will your booth number be?

Ah!, Called the boss. Booth 806.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

He probably went into panic mode as soon as someone mentioned the local TV news reporters.

kdb

But what does he have to worry about ? Negative PR is better than no PR ! :p

[TomStillwell]

Oh. Looks like he's been banned.

Guess we don't have to worry about him changing anything else.

Was he really banned? He probably just put banned as his title.

[OzBat!]

I stand corrected: Olney WAS smart enough to realise that his pictures could be quoted in somebody else's posts, so he removed 'em from photobucket.

Too bad I still had 'em in cache. And the really smart thing? even though the links are now broken? You can still see the address they point to. REALLY SMART using a photobucket account name of "orcafresh". Couldn't more blatantly demonstrate the relationship between offensive material and ownership if you tried, Richard!

Richard Olney. Suuuuuuuper Genius!

[Wil Radcliffe]

Was he really banned? He probably just put banned as his title.

Gail says that his Orcafresh account was banned. He can still come on here under a different account if he likes, but he can't go back and change his posts under his Orcafresh account.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Ah!, Called the boss. Booth 806.

Cool. I will pop by. Won't have a ton of money, but if you have good deals, I will buy.

[Josh Simon]

I will be there. What will your booth number be?

Sorry Double Post

[Matt Doc Martin]

On a side note, whenever I read your name it registers to me as: "Mad Dog Martigan" and THIS picture flashes in front of my eyes :x
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/50/fantasy12hn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Which is not a bad thing. Mad Martigan rocked!

I played Battletech in Chicago using "Mad Dog" as my code name...years before I got nicknamed "Doc".

[OzBat!]

He's been slapped with a temp ban to prevent him altering the rest of his posts.

[Cam63]

Was he really banned? He probably just put banned as his title.

Yeah, he'll try using it as both a martyr and promotion device.

[MacQuarrie]

It should be noted that under normal CBR rules, creating a second account in order to circumvent a ban is grounds for a permanent one. It usually results in an IP ban.

But we're not playing by normal CBR rules on YABS in a lot of other ways, and this is no exception. Gail has already said that Dick can create a new identity in order to post; his temp ban is entirely to prevent him from editing his previous posts, not to remove him from the forum.

Come on back, Dick. Or at least don't go bragging that you've been banned here. You have a specific explicit exemption from the rules.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Please come back, Rick. We miss you!:rolleyes:

[TCJohnson]

Gail says that his Orcafresh account was banned. He can still come on here under a different account if he likes, but he can't go back and change his posts under his Orcafresh account.

More to the point, he was temporary banned. He can come back as soon as Gail knows she has backups of all the stuff he was trying to delete.

[Cam63]

'Tis true, 'tis true about the "dood" thing.

But the fight I mean is the one where established professionals such as yourself, Busiek, Waid, et al, kindly use your celebrity to draw attention to this situation and, in the process, empower the lesser-established creators who have also been shafted by this guy to stand up for themselves. That, to me, is a good fight, even if the enemy is sorely outnumbered.

And, speaking of the enemy, I'm an old Marine, so I'm saddened to see another old Marine behaving the way he has been. Not making good on his financial obligations is one thing, but some of the personal attacks he's engaged in are just downright dispicable, most notably those against the women on this board, including yourself. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but I hate to see that kind of abusive conduct by men against women. I know the ladies on this site are more than capable of standing up for themselves, but that doesn't change the fact that it truly bothers me. Real Marines are tough bastards, yeah, but they are gentlemen, too.

So, yeah, there's a good fight going on here, even if there is no doubt about who will ultimately win. My main hope, however, is that good side will strive, whenever possible, to take the high road and not stoop to the bad side's lowliness. Angry reactions to his personal attacks are exactly what he is hoping for -- it's a twisted form of attention he is seeking. Ignoring him is our best weapon. I say take him to court, sue his hiney, then forget about him.

Again, just my two cents. As for me, I just dig hanging out with the awesome Gail Simone, even if it is only electronically. :)

Best to you all,

Tom Waltz

That's a good 2 cents spent.

Thanks and Semper Fi, Tom.

[JeffreyWKramer]

This thing of his going back and removing his posts is just pathetic. He's not only a hate-filled, dishonest sack of shit, he's also a cowardly one.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Ok...1 satisfied customer has a data CD on its way to him/her (air of MYSTERY!)


Anyone else?

[Matt Doc Martin]

This thing of his going back and removing his posts is just pathetic. He's not only a hate-filled, dishonest sack of shit, he's also a cowardly one.

I have been saying that all along.

[JeffreyWKramer]

I have been saying that all along.

Granted. And so has pretty much everyone else. But then he goes ahead and proves the point even further.

He's the most pathetic individual ever in the history of CBR, and given that this history has included the likes of iwarrior, curefreak and Watson Glenn, that's really saying quite a lot. Sort of the low of the low... the underscum... the sweat off the balls of a syphilitic, retarded toad.

[TCJohnson]

- mental note: give Children of the Grave a try -

[Hybrid2]

Interesting story by the very sweet and talented Sean McKeever...

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?p=2595609&posted=1#post2595609

found quote about the story but not the whole storie. weird

[Gail Simone]

I got ahead of him at 1:12 Saturday. Didn't copy all his posts after that point. But all my favorites. I'll be posting a digest of this thread on my website with links to the stuff that seems most damning to me. A lot of what Doc Absurd and Mike Bullock and Mark Waid had to say.

And then what Rick said to damn himself. Unfortunately half of what I made up is at present links to killed posts. But I'll being going through quotes of said posts and copying his words over in their place. This way people can get a sense of the grievance against this guy without having to read this whole insane thread.

Good idea, C&C!

Gail

[AIPman1]

Not to derail anything, but....

The SPA is having their weekly LIVE CHAT at the Dimestore site, and I wanted to invite anyone reading out there to it! All you have to do is come to www.dimestoreproductions.com and sign in (it only takes a few minutes to set up a new account if you don't have one) then in the members menu to the left, click the Chat link and it puts you in our room.

We save transcripts and post them in our forum afterwards.

We'll be there till 9PM or so!!! Eastern time!!!

[Sean McKeever]

found quote about the story but not the whole storie. weird

Someone at the BB deleted anything in the thread to do with my story, presumably because of all this supposed legal bull. I'm a little ticked about it.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Someone at the BB deleted anything in the thread to do with my story, presumably because of all this supposed legal bull. I'm a little ticked about it.

But he doesn't have a lawyer!

[Sean McKeever]

But he doesn't have a lawyer!

Tell it to whichever mod deleted my stuff.

[Gail Simone]

LOVE the Bendis Boarders, they're almost universally cool people.

But at least one of the mods is a trigger-happy jackass.

Bendis is great, boarders are great, one of the mods is into the whole Barney Fife mod thing.

Gail

[OzBat!]

one of the mods is into the whole Barney Fife mod thing.Way to go destroying my life's ambition, gail! It's plain as the NDA in my hands that you don't appreciate me! *sobs* I QUIT!

[Gail Simone]

In other news, WELCOME SEAN!

Glad to see you at DC!

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

Way to go destroying my life's ambition, gail! It's plain as the NDA in my hands that you don't appreciate me! *sobs* I QUIT!

I want his job.

[Wil Radcliffe]

LOVE the Bendis Boarders, they're almost universally cool people.

But at least one of the mods is a trigger-happy jackass.

Bendis is great, boarders are great, one of the mods is into the whole Barney Fife mod thing.

Gail

Man, I miss Don Knotts.

[Gail Simone]

Way to go destroying my life's ambition, gail! It's plain as the NDA in my hands that you don't appreciate me! *sobs* I QUIT!

heh.

Big nerd.

Gail

[Sean McKeever]

In other news, WELCOME SEAN!

Glad to see you at DC!

Gail

Yeah, but what's that smell?

[Cam63]

Man, I miss Don Knotts.

Why'd you shoot at him ?

[MacQuarrie]

Someone at the BB deleted anything in the thread to do with my story, presumably because of all this supposed legal bull. I'm a little ticked about it.

I just checked to see if it was still in my cache. No go.

Still, you can repost it here.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Why'd you shoot at him ?

I'd never shoot at Don Knotts! The man was a saint!

Now, George "Goober" Lindsey I'd take down in a heartbeat!

[OzBat!]

Why'd you shoot at him ?Well DUH, he obviously needed the practice.

[Cam63]

heh.

Big nerd.

Gail

Oooh ! Call him a dag, Gail !

[Momma Absurd]

This is the CURRENT SPA Logo:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/images/logo/ALT PROUD SPA - BLACK copy.jpg

I'd be willing to update it/ change it...but the goal would be to have a seal that means something to other creators and the fans, that they know anyone displaying the seal on or in their book supports the efforts we make.

Mr. Shires,
I like the SPA logo, very classy!! I don't think it needs to be changed at all, but then I am not a creator; However, I do know what I like...

Momma........

[Cam63]

Well DUH, he obviously needed the practice.

Try aiming lower.

...Olney style !

[OzBat!]

heh.

Big nerd.

GailI'll have you know that being a mod is a STATUS SYMBOL! Real power! Yeah! If it weren't for guys like orcafresh calling me out all the time about abusing my powers and silencing the truth all the time for my own selfish gains, I'd be RICH AND FAMOUS!!

....


I've changed my mind. I don't quit. You don't deserve me, so my path is claer; I must stay and oppose your evilness at every step.

[Gail Simone]

Yeah, but what's that smell?

ORCA!


Gail

[Cam63]

Polo !

...Now off to work I go. Beer don't pay for itself !

[Wil Radcliffe]

ORCA!


We need Richard Harris in here!

[OzBat!]

I just checked to see if it was still in my cache. No go.Speaking of caches...

I've just discovered while catching up on saving pages for posterity, that that really interesting image he used replying to ed? Of the guy with a penis for a face and glasses? Still in my cache. Still shows up every time it was in a quoted post, even though he's edited the original post AND removed the image from his photobucket account.

Same as the "iKill" image.

Saved for posterity.

[amboy00]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpgWhat is that stake doing on the right hand side of your chest? The heart is located on the left. At most, you depicting a punctured lung.

[Momma Absurd]

Heh.

Dad was actually Chief of Police a long time after Olney claims to have been there, but if Olney has been untruthful about his record of service, he will be discussed.

And while my dad was a Marine, he's no fake, and doesn't make big claims he can't back up. He was discharged with a heart murmer. Nowadays, a heart murmer will not get you discharged, but in the 1950's, they thought stress would give you a heart attack.

So, he became a cop.

My brother was in the Corps about 7 years. He also became a cop.





c


Colleen,

My best to your father and brother, brave men and women is what built our country, I too have brothers who are Airmen and my son is doing the Young Marines training. I know how nerve wracking that kind of worry can be......

Semper Fi

Momma

[jesshickman]

- mental note: give Children of the Grave a try -
I have an illustration in that TPB! :)

[Sarah Beach]

What is that stake doing on the right hand side of your chest? The heart is located on the left. At most, you depicting a punctured lung.

Well, you know, it isn't bleeding either. Truth must be --- NO HEART.

Not that it's a surprise.

[Papergirl]

Wow... Just... WOW. Leave for several months and I miss all the good stuff!

I vaguely recall several years ago, there was some big blow up between Olney and (I think) Scott Shaw. I don't recall the specifics, though. And I remember being surprised when he started posting here. There had been a LOT of accusations of him being a fraud then, too.

Frankly, I'm surprised he didn't melt down sooner.

And to all you who were screwed over by him, you have my sympathies. I will definitely be looking for work from all of you to buy and support.

And to you, Rick... You're a sick and twisted nut job. Seek help NOW.

[OzBat!]

peeeeeeeg!!

[Sarah Beach]

Say, Gail, are you still waiting on confirmation of the whatever-it-was?

Just my insatiable curiousity asking.
:)

[Sean McKeever]

I just checked to see if it was still in my cache. No go.

Still, you can repost it here.

Sure, if I weren't lazy. ;)

[Wil Radcliffe]

Say, Gail, are you still waiting on confirmation of the whatever-it-was?

Just my insatiable curiousity asking.
:)

Yes. Don't keep us hanging like... well, Tightlip creators waiting on their checks.

[Blake Petit]

Congrats on the DC deal, Sean! I can't wait to see what you've got in the works, although I'm sure the Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane fans are in mourning.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yes. Don't keep us hanging like... well, Tightlip creators waiting on their checks.

There we go...the biirth of a new phrase.

"Waiting longer than a Tightlip Creditor."

[Momma Absurd]

First of all, I had alot of catching up to do and so it's taking me a while to get through all the posts......

Mr. Shires I really like your logo for SPA, I think it is classy and its eye catching.....I wish you all the best with it.......and pleasse tell your wife I read her posts and that I for one would like to say hello to her and welcome the chance to become friends with her...

Cam......your hilarious, I love your comments!!

About Scott...... Mr. TUNA ROTTEN.... Intergrity and Honesty just happen to weigh a little more than a bag of shyte covered lies......I would offer for you to try that approach but seeing that your common sense is non-existant I won't bother....

Colleen......thank you for doing the background work with the military posts, I couldn't find anything on Dicky either.....

Sarah thanks for being such a dear......me and Doc_A know what a sweetie you are......

And for everyone else, EVERY POST FOR THE LAST 3 WEEKS has been copied and are in the hands of my attorney, his paralegals have a file of every post made on here even my not so nice ones......LOL......I don't think he understands that the picture he put up is indeed an act of terrorism and will be dealt with accordingly.......

Peace folks,

Momma

[Mike Bullock]

...the picture he put up is indeed an act of terrorism and will be dealt with accordingly...


For the first time, ever, I've found something that makes me briefly happy I live in a post 9-11 world.

[Papergirl]

peeeeeeeg!!

ozzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!

:D

[AIPman1]

Mr. Shires,
I like the SPA logo, very classy!! I don't think it needs to be changed at all, but then I am not a creator; However, I do know what I like...

Momma........

thanks!!!! We have enjoyed it's simple nature for years now too...but I do want to keep options open in the face of getting more people involved and willing to use it.

[Momma Absurd]

Polo !

...Now off to work I go. Beer don't pay for itself !

Pick me up some while your out.........beer I mean.......:cool:

[DocAbsurd]

I'm sorry, Gail; I know I promised, and I tried, I really did!

I did a search for his posts to quote the stuff about the ICC and what he called small press creators.

I can't believe it. He really did go back and erase everything he could.

What, did the medications finally kick this morning and he realized just how damning his rantings were? Did common sense bitch-slap him over coffee? I know I joked about him retconning everything, but holy shit! He must really believe that by drawing us out with his derogatory insults and then eliminating his initial taunts will prove once and for all how everyone is against him.

As if saying all those things didn't make him look bad enough, going back and erasing what so many people have proof of is gonna nail him to the floor.

Too bad he can't write a script this intricate.




Doc 'Only the Posts Have Been Changed to Protect the Guilty' Absurd

[kingdom2000]

Sad to see the orcafresh account banned, but I hope Rick returns under a new one. That grave could easily get deeper.

As for the edits, doesn't the board do backups? Someone's call but depending on when/how the backups are done, Rick's edited posts could be replaced with the orginial. Or the orginial might be provided to those actually seeking legal avenues along with the edited versions to show how Rick was trying to cover up his bad behavior. This would be something any potential judge or juror would find interesting as cover up by most is considered synomonous with guilt.

Final note, his "most hated" image, is that a recent drawing cause it seems that it supports his claim that people still work and support him. The art isn't half bad, clearly made to his order. Any ideas on who made it?

[Paul Newell]

Then I found this. Enjoy:

http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/interviews2.asp?intID=290

Oh dear.

I see this quote:

I also spearheaded the efforts that created pathways for comic-books and sequentially driven graphic novels and trades to gain acceptance in public libraries and schools with success.

Am I right in thinking this is crap?
Y'know, I noticed something last night when I googled his name, but didn't go back to check it until now.

I found this website, Comics In The Classroom (http://comicsintheclassroom.net/) run by Scott Tingley. Here's what he says about how he started:
Hello, my name is Scott Tingley, the owner of this site. I am an early years teacher in the New Brunswick (Canada) public school system (this site is in no way connected to the NB Department of Education). I am hoping that my knowledge of differentiated learning and my love of comics will help you in the motivating and teaching of the children in your lives.
I may be new and small, but I am one of the few sites of its type out there, so if you are a creator or publisher and you would like to send comp or preview copies of your books for review, or want to send us press releases or news tips you can email me at comicsintheclassroom@gmail.com (comicsintheclassroom@gmail.com) And sorry, these books will not be returned, nor do I promise to post a review of every one sent to me. I will not trash your work, that's not what the site is all about. If I like it, and it fits the site, I will find a place for it on my site.
If possible, please include a solicitation and release date for the material.
Also, if anyone out there would like to sponsor me or run adds on my site, or you just want to comment on the site
drop me a line. (comicsintheclassroom@gmail.com)
Special thanks to Christian and Kevin for ideas and tech support. And to Mike for his interest, contacts and support.
Now the page that actually comes up in the search is this one:

One Year Later! Comics In The Classroom Turns One! (http://www.comicsintheclassroom.net/oo2006_oct20_first_birthday.htm)

Where he has this to say:
It has been a long year, but never in my wildest dreams did I think when I launched this thing twelve months ago that it would have grown as fast as it has. I first uploaded the site on October 22, 2005, and I am currently on my third version of the site – each getting more and more professional looking.

I could not have done it without a lot of great people giving me a hand along the way. John Taddeo, Rick Olney, Ian Feller and Mike Bullock have given me support within the comic industry. My friends Christian and Kevin are my site design and graphic gurus. My Principal and School District have supported me along the way, as has my wife – letting me click-clack away at the keyboard for all hours of the night. Thank you to all of the people kind enough to send samples of their work for review, and thanks to my sponsors.

Finally, I would like to thank the new writers that have graciously offered their writing talents to CitC. John “Figaro” Norris came on board a couple of months ago to begin writing “THE CAT'S MEOW: What's Good on the Shelf This Week” column. Tracy Edmunds has written a couple of great pieces for me and writes the Newsarama.com all-ages column. Both have been terrific additions. Thanks so much.

I didn't even know how to attach a document to an email 14 months ago. I'm wondering what this next year will bring.


Scott Tingley


Administrator, creator and owner of Comics in the Classroom. Net


Psalm 121


October 20, 2006

Now the thing I found MOST interesting is that Mr. Tingley mentions that he is the creator and owner of this worthy project...Yet for some reason the copyright notice at the bottom says this:

Comics in the Classroom copyright (c) 2006 Rick Olney and TightLip Entertainment.

All rights reserved.

The guy's obviously not a sockpuppet...So what's up with that last little addendum?

[Wil Radcliffe]

Where he has this to say:


Now the thing I found MOST interesting is that Mr. Tingley mentions that he is the creator and owner of this worthy project...Yet for some reason the copyright notice at the bottom says this:

Comics in the Classroom copyright (c) 2006 Rick Olney and TightLip Entertainment.

All rights reserved.

The guy's obviously not a sockpuppet...So what's up with that last little addendum?

Well, 2 of the 4 comics insiders he mentions have been posting here... and one of them we can actually trust. That said, maybe Mike Bullock has some answers.

[neko onna]

I'm sorry, Gail; I know I promised, and I tried, I really did!

I did a search for his posts to quote the stuff about the ICC and what he called small press creators.

I can't believe it. He really did go back and erase everything he could.

What, did the medications finally kick this morning and he realized just how damning his rantings were? Did common sense bitch-slap him over coffee? I know I joked about him retconning everything, but holy shit! He must really believe that by drawing us out with his derogatory insults and then eliminating his initial taunts will prove once and for all how everyone is against him.

As if saying all those things didn't make him look bad enough, going back and erasing what so many people have proof of is gonna nail him to the floor.

Too bad he can't write a script this intricate.




Doc 'Only the Posts Have Been Changed to Protect the Guilty' Absurd

It's OK..he only moved the headstones...HE ONLY MOVED THE HEADSTONES!!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/poltergeist/craig_t__nelson/poltergeist.jpg

[Corrina]

- mental note: give Children of the Grave a try -

It is an excellent book. I would say the first issue is good but then it gets better and I really enjoyed the ending.

Plus, Tom Waltz is an all-around good guy.

[Paul Newell]

Well, 2 of the 4 comics insiders he mentions have been posting here... and one of them we can actually trust. That said, maybe Mike Bullock has some answers.
I hope so. It smells of claimjumping to me, not just taking the credit.

[Corrina]

We need Richard Harris in here!

But he LOST.

That's no good.

[Wil Radcliffe]

But he LOST.

That's no good.

Well, maybe if he comes in as Dumblebore or Dumbledore or whatever he'd have more luck. :)

[OzBat!]

Note to Richard "orcafresh" Olney:

1. when three or four people each individually quote your posts to take them apart, we have enough independant verification of what your original post was.

2. when we have independant corroboration of your post content, it's pretty futile to hope that by deleting your posts, we'd somehow magically forget what you wrote.

3. when we've seen you do the same post deletion revisionism before at other forums, it's even more futile to believe that we wouldn't be ready for it this time.

4. when we've flat out said on multiple occasions in this thread alone that we've been copying each page for a permanent record, it becomes mind-numbingly stupid to believe that deleting your posts would be able to make those copies magically disappear along with our memories of those pages in their original unedited form, AND the independant quotations of each post.

5. when you go through and delete your posts and replace them with a nice big version of your avatar image, it makes it really, really, REALLY easy to see which posts you've deleted and which ones you haven't, yet.

6. when everybody goes through and sees your big bright version of your avatar image, with "last edited by orcafresh on date.date.date" underneath that image, immediately followed by several posts from other posters quoting the original content of the post before you edited it, it is beyond comprehension that you could possibly imagine nobody wouldn't point and laugh at such feeble efforts to cover your tracks.

and 7. running all over the internet and deleting just about every post you've ever made that still existed after previous purges is the actions of a Very Desperate man. Did you receive anything in the mail today?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Note to Richard "orcafresh" Olney:

Did you receive anything in the mail today?

I would LOVE to know that!

And Gail's news.

But really, I want to hear that the screws have begun to be twisted.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Note to Richard "orcafresh" Olney:

1. when three or four people each individually quote your posts to take them apart, we have enough independant verification of what your original post was.

2. when we have independant corroboration of your post content, it's pretty futile to hope that by deleting your posts, we'd somehow magically forget what you wrote.

3. when we've seen you do the same post deletion revisionism before at other forums, it's even more futile to believe that we wouldn't be ready for it this time.

4. when we've flat out said on multiple occasions in this thread alone that we've been copying each page for a permanent record, it becomes mind-numbingly stupid to believe that deleting your posts would be able to make those copies magically disappear along with our memories of those pages in their original unedited form, AND the independant quotations of each post.

5. when you go through and delete your posts and replace them with a nice big version of your avatar image, it makes it really, really, REALLY easy to see which posts you've deleted and which ones you haven't, yet.

6. when everybody goes through and sees your big bright version of your avatar image, with "last edited by orcafresh on date.date.date" underneath that image, immediately followed by several posts from other posters quoting the original content of the post before you edited it, it is beyond comprehension that you could possibly imagine nobody wouldn't point and laugh at such feeble efforts to cover your tracks.

and 7. running all over the internet and deleting just about every post you've ever made that still existed after previous purges is the actions of a Very Desperate man. Did you receive anything in the mail today?

I'm thinking #7 happened. And thats why he's on a serious tear across the online world to delete it all.

[Crowley]

not to gloat...

but man did I call him returning to delete his posts or did I call it?

I have a feeling reality came crashing down on Rick pretty hard today... I hope the judge turns out to be an ex Marine...

[Draconomicon]

Note to Richard "orcafresh" Olney:

1. when three or four people each individually quote your posts to take them apart, we have enough independant verification of what your original post was.

2. when we have independant corroboration of your post content, it's pretty futile to hope that by deleting your posts, we'd somehow magically forget what you wrote.

3. when we've seen you do the same post deletion revisionism before at other forums, it's even more futile to believe that we wouldn't be ready for it this time.

4. when we've flat out said on multiple occasions in this thread alone that we've been copying each page for a permanent record, it becomes mind-numbingly stupid to believe that deleting your posts would be able to make those copies magically disappear along with our memories of those pages in their original unedited form, AND the independant quotations of each post.

5. when you go through and delete your posts and replace them with a nice big version of your avatar image, it makes it really, really, REALLY easy to see which posts you've deleted and which ones you haven't, yet.

6. when everybody goes through and sees your big bright version of your avatar image, with "last edited by orcafresh on date.date.date" underneath that image, immediately followed by several posts from other posters quoting the original content of the post before you edited it, it is beyond comprehension that you could possibly imagine nobody wouldn't point and laugh at such feeble efforts to cover your tracks.

and 7. running all over the internet and deleting just about every post you've ever made that still existed after previous purges is the actions of a Very Desperate man. Did you receive anything in the mail today?

Servers of this size usualy make backups every few hours.
Even if he deleted everything, the backups should still hold it.

[Gail Simone]

As soon as we hear back, I PROMISE I'll share.

It regards one of Rick Olney's big claims to fame, which may not have even a GLIMMER of truth in it.

We'll know soon! :)

Gail

[Hybrid2]

First of all, I had alot of catching up to do and so it's taking me a while to get through all the posts......

Mr. Shires I really like your logo for SPA, I think it is classy and its eye catching.....I wish you all the best with it.......and pleasse tell your wife I read her posts and that I for one would like to say hello to her and welcome the chance to become friends with her...

Cam......your hilarious, I love your comments!!

About Scott...... Mr. TUNA ROTTEN.... Intergrity and Honesty just happen to weigh a little more than a bag of shyte covered lies......I would offer for you to try that approach but seeing that your common sense is non-existant I won't bother....

Colleen......thank you for doing the background work with the military posts, I couldn't find anything on Dicky either.....

Sarah thanks for being such a dear......me and Doc_A know what a sweetie you are......

And for everyone else, EVERY POST FOR THE LAST 3 WEEKS has been copied and are in the hands of my attorney, his paralegals have a file of every post made on here even my not so nice ones......LOL......I don't think he understands that the picture he put up is indeed an act of terrorism and will be dealt with accordingly.......

Peace folks,

Momma

Even the donuts jokes?:eek:

[Matt Doc Martin]

I just contacted a number of the guests to the supposed next happening of the Mighty Mini Con.

They may want to see about getting payment up front.

[Gail Simone]

And I'm quite sure he got some bad news today, and if the email I'm getting is correct, brother, he's got a TON MORE COMING.

Couldn't happen to a lesser creature.

Not only has he single-handedly destroyed any hope he ever had of publishing, I think he's destroyed ORCA, too. Every single time it's mentioned, people are going to be thinking of his behavior here and elsewhere. Who in the world would trust this guy with ANYTHING charitable?

Gail

[Scott Shaw!]

Wow... Just... WOW. Leave for several months and I miss all the good stuff!

I vaguely recall several years ago, there was some big blow up between Olney and (I think) Scott Shaw. I don't recall the specifics, though. And I remember being surprised when he started posting here. There had been a LOT of accusations of him being a fraud then, too.

Frankly, I'm surprised he didn't melt down sooner.

And to all you who were screwed over by him, you have my sympathies. I will definitely be looking for work from all of you to buy and support.

And to you, Rick... You're a sick and twisted nut job. Seek help NOW.

Hey, Papergirl, long time no see!

As I recall, Rick Olney started to flip out when I asked a few too many questions of Gail and Heidi MacDonald about their disastrous experiences at the Mighty Mini Con here on the YABS board. When I saw that he was warming up his old flamewar routine, I backed off fast and made nice, rather than send him careening off into another take-on-everyone-here-at-CBR screed. Then I warned the other mods in the Back Room of his history of flipping out, but no one seemed to take my warning very seriously. Of course, you can't ban the guy for acting weird on OTHER sites. Too bad that all predated the concoction of his fictional publishing company/scam, Tightlip Entertainment.

I dunno if that thread still exists there, but I'd love to see it again, just to check how many aspects of his pattern of misbehavior I predicted. Not that I'm some sort of funnybook Nostradamus, but Olney is just so pathetically predictable. Sociopathetically, even.

Oh, and Olney's next phase will be frantic apologies and attempts at nice-making. Not that they'll be genuine, mind you, but when he gets hopelessly backed into a corner, he thinks he can charm his way out. At least, that's what he used to attempt at Comicon.com.

But what's going on here is much bigger than pissing off CBR. Between the threats and the Tightlip scam, he's FINALLY gonna have to face the music, thanks to the good work of many people here and elsewhere.

Aloha,

Scott!

[Matt Doc Martin]

As soon as we hear back, I PROMISE I'll share.

It regards one of Rick Olney's big claims to fame, which may not have even a GLIMMER of truth in it.

We'll know soon! :)

Gail

Are we secure enough in our backups that we can "unban"Rick's account? I doubt he has the grapes to come back here anyhow, but I want to make sure he has the opportunity.

[Mike Bullock]

Well, 2 of the 4 comics insiders he mentions have been posting here... and one of them we can actually trust. That said, maybe Mike Bullock has some answers.


I don't know what the exact connection is. I do, however, know that Scott Tingley is a great teacher, great comics advocate and all around swell guy.

I emailed him a link to this to see if he can swing by and shed some light on it.

[bert]

Just to say, although there has been quite of bit of negativism and nastiness in this thread (and I'm guilty of some of that too - see the Sarlacc Pit/asshole reference way back). .

it is a pleasure and a joy to read many of the posts here.

So thank you for confirming my "good-faith" in most of the Comics Community.

Mr. Waid, you are a true hero.

as are Ronee' and Colleen (I may not buy any Marvel these days, but your art in "Book of Lost Souls" was stunning).

Posts by Momma Absurd, Corrina, Kurt Busiek, James Owen and many, many others remind me why I love posting here on YABS (heck, even Cully's posts! (I would put a smiley here, but they have been forever ruined for me).

Seeing MacQ get worked up just underlines how important this issue is.
I'll never forget what he said to me in San Diego a couple of years ago,

"you're not near as scary as I thought you would be"

I love you all. . each and EVERY one of you (except for Mr. Stinky . . I mean, I love the smell of man. .but even I have my limits).

CHEERS!


(goes off to read (again) my Absolute Authority -- which I bought after Gail phoned Mr. Waid to ask him if he thought it was worth me buying, when she was in town for an appearance at my local comic's shop.

oops. . I just tripped on these names I dropped on the floor!


(damn. . this no smileys thing is HARD)

[Matt Doc Martin]

And a reminder..I generated two discs of Olney rants that are being mailed tomorrow. Anyone else need one?

[wishlish]

I wonder if the News 10 crew showed up. For those who haven't read through the thread, I called the local television station and gave them info on this, and Ronee also called. If you're a debtor, search for Ronee's post for the contact info for the guy handling the story.

Hey, Gail, we might have to send the records of the deleted posts to the TV station.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I wonder if the News 10 crew showed up. For those who haven't read through the thread, I called the local television station and gave them info on this, and Ronee also called. If you're a debtor, search for Ronee's post for the contact info for the guy handling the story.

Hey, Gail, we might have to send the records of the deleted posts to the TV station.


I doubt that it would have happened already. More than likely if they decide to do anything, they would investigate more first, then do a story that would run to fill air time at some point. But I wonder just how "newsworthy" it would actually be outside of the comics community.

[Corrina]

I suspect that this pattern of behavior--promises, then no payment--isn't limited to the comics community, and there may be other debtors out there, for other things we're not aware of. If I were the newsteam, I'd do a full credit check, first, then I'd try to track if any work was contracted for his home or even done on his car--anything involving small contractors, who might walk away from a debt, because it's 'not worth the hassle.'

Oh, and if it is a pattern, there might just be a possibility of criminal fraud. Iffy, because you'd have to prove he never intended to pay, but...

And edited to add that, yes, I'm pretty sure it was the newsteam idea that made him backtrack and delete posts. I was wrong to express concerns about that one. :)

[wishlish]

I doubt that it would have happened already. More than likely if they decide to do anything, they would investigate more first, then do a story that would run to fill air time at some point. But I wonder just how "newsworthy" it would actually be outside of the comics community.

Hey, it's a shot in the dark if they decide to run it. Maybe it'd get one of those consumer reporter type stories. A local guy who uses comics to scam artists out of 5 figures worth of work might make for a story on a slow news day.

[Hybrid2]

I wonder if the News 10 crew showed up. For those who haven't read through the thread, I called the local television station and gave them info on this, and Ronee also called. If you're a debtor, search for Ronee's post for the contact info for the guy handling the story.

Hey, Gail, we might have to send the records of the deleted posts to the TV station.

LOL!
You actualy did it?
awsome.

Here in Quebec we have a show,called J.E.,not sure what it stand for.
there reporters that go after stories of fraud,negligence and worse.

Awful stuff sometime.Things usualy change realy fast after the show.
often the boss or landlord is "absent" when they show up to see them.
:D

[chucksatterlee]

I have been reluctant to speak about him publically. But...

My name is Chuck Satterlee. I am currently a small press writer with a few series out there. I am also an employee of Markosia Enterprises.

My history goes back a couple years with Rick.

When I had two series at Speakeasy, one of those series...(Of Bitter Souls) was drawn by Norm Breyfogle. For those of you who remember, Norm is a legend (at least in my opinion) and had one of the greatest runs on Detective and Batman ever. Norm is also one of the nicest and most generous people in comics. Back then, Rick had contacted Norm and invited him to go to his Mighty Mini-Con. Rick was supposed to pay for the trip, hotel, and give him a $100 per diem. I remember that Norm and I had the opportunity to sign together at a bigger convention but Norm, who NEVER breaks his word, had already said yes to Rick. The days drew closer to the show...and no word about his plane ticket or accomidations. Then the day came...and no word and Norm was blown off. When Norm spoke about this on the Speakeasy boards, Rick went into what can only be described as the mother of all rants. He had a ton of excuses why his behavior was not unprofessional.

Then time passed.

Norm, being the forgiving guy he is, agreed the following year to try it again.

Same result.

Then, because I guess I am an idiot...I fell for it as well.

Rick invited a bunch of Markosia creators to the MIghty Mini-Con. Same promises...

The list included:

Freddie E. Williams II who is a very good friend of mine.
Tom Hall and Daniel Bradford who are doing a book for Markosia.
Me
Brian Augustyn
Chris Dibari
JOse Torres
Sal Cipriano

Freddie...who is exclusive at DC now, and my other friends waited and waited for the travel arrangements and such.

Nothing...

Repeated e-mails asking for clarification...

Nothing...

Then, he told us he had some family problems and deaths...

He siad that is why he did not contact anybody.

Poor Ronee kept trying to get word to us but she knew nothing during that time either.

Now, we're just small press, but we all scheduled that time and believe me, every show counts when you're small press. We all gave up other shows to do this.

Then...and it starts to get weird here...

He started contacting me and asking if I had been talking poorly of him. I really hadn;t. I had kept this to myself and so did ALL of my firends.

I am no angel. I have had my share of public internet fights. But man...this was crazy. He kept quizzing me on who might be talking about him. I tried just to forget the problems and he kept contacting me through myspace. I just don;t get him. Let sleeping dogs lie or some shit like that. Why keep dragging this on with people?

Apparently, Norm and my friends and I were lucky, we were only inconvienienced and not out the money.

This story keeps getting more and more odd. It seems like just about everyone has had a run-in with him at one time or another.

I am sure I am next to get sued now. But hey...if I only said it twenty times, I am small press, I could use a good court case to get some publicity. :)

[Matt Doc Martin]

LOL!
You actualy did it?
awsome.

Here in Quebec we have a show,called J.E.,not sure what it stand for.
there reporters that go after stories of fraud,negligence and worse.

Awful stuff sometime.Things usualy change realy fast after the show.
often the boss or landlord is "absent" when they show up to see them.
:D

Well, one good thing is pRick has nowhere else to be. If they come knocking on the door, it will be the house. He shows up at the door in stained briefs and a ratty t-shirt, with food in his beard.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I have been reluctant to speak about him publically. But...

My name is Chuck Satterlee. I am currently a small press writer with a few series out there. I am also an employee of Markosia Enterprises.


I think I just sent you a message on MySpace.

[neko onna]

I am sure I am next to get sued now. But hey...if I only said it twenty times, I am small press, I could use a good court case to get some publicity. :)
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAH Brilliant!!!

[Scott Shaw!]

Like my new signature, Rick?

Aloha,

Scott!

[CitC]

I don't know what the exact connection is. I do, however, know that Scott Tingley is a great teacher, great comics advocate and all around swell guy.

I emailed him a link to this to see if he can swing by and shed some light on it. Thanks Mike.

I wondered if I would be pulled into this. You have a valid question Paul. I created the website comicsintheclassroom.net in the Fall of 2005 after hearing a boys literacy expert speak to all of the teachers in my school district about the importance of valuing all forms of reading. A buddy helped me launch and now two versions of the site later I am what I am. With the help of a couple industry people I had a press release writted and sent out. Rick caught notice of me through that (I think I am remembering that bit correctly) He informed me that he owned the copyright to the name Comics in the Classroom, and after a phone conversation he liked what he heard and he allowed me to keep using the name as long as I gave the copyright credit at the bottom of the screen. That is really all there is to it. He has nothing to do with my site other than the copyright thing. I own the domain name and everything that has to do with it.

I will respond to any reasonable questions, but since my dealings with him have been possitive I don't think I can add much.

[Toyandgadgetguy]

Local news here on Long Island did a bit on a North Carolina company that was selling furniture, but not delivering it. Not big news, but they did help get some people their money back. They were talking only in the tens of thousands. Granted, more people know about furniture than comics... but not that many more. :D

By the way all... nice to meet you.

I've been trolling this thread thanks to it being pointed out on another board I frequent.

The only thing I have to say is that I came here with an open mind, and read the first few pages... and couldn't stop till I'd read them all. In the first couple of pages, I'd considered the possibility that perhaps there was some mob mentality going on here, or that some poor guy was perhaps just a bit slow, lazy, or misunderstood... and that perhaps people were ganging up on him. However, since reading every other post on here (who do I bill for the Visine?) it is my opinion that this man deserves to be brought into the spotlight, and made to pay for what he's done.

Mr. Olney,

If you ever get to read this, please be aware that I... your average good customer... will never purchase anything that your company puts out. If your company puts anything out. I'm sure you will say that you do not care, but I believe that you should. You're doing this for people to buy your product. You've said as much. What's funny is that nothing that anyone else here has posted is causing me to not buy your product. It's you. The very things you posted, and your attitude in posting them is why I will not buy from you. I believe that an honest man would not stoop so low as to play the online games that you have played with this community. I believe that someone who was being wronged would have behaved differently. To say the things you've said to these women? (or the men for that matter, but the women especially!) What soldier behaves this way? Certainly none that I've served with. You speak of pride, yet I believe that you have none that matters. I believe with all my heart that you are indeed guilty of everything you have been realistically accused of in this thread. They have not made me believe this... you have. It's sad, but you have lost one potential customer. If I ever hear of your name associated with a product, I will not purchase said product. You've had that effect on me. What's worse for you is that there are probably countless more like me out there.

You're welcome to try and sue me for my opinion. I have no problem showing up for court.

With that said, I'm going back under my bridge now.

I thank the rest of you for allowing me to interrupt. Be well.

[Jamie Coville]

Or maybe the reporter just called him to set up an interview?

[OzBat!]

Scott, thanks for coming over.

Have you done a copyright search to see if he was telling the truth?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Thanks Mike.
He has nothing to do with my site other than the copyright thing. I own the domain name and everything that has to do with it.

I will respond to any reasonable questions, but since my dealings with him have been positive I don't think I can add much.

Your honesty is all that is asked for. It is much better than what pRick gave. He takes credit for everything others do. YOU did all the work, he takes the credit.

Welcome here.

[Matt Doc Martin]

With that said, I'm going back under my bridge now.

I thank the rest of you for allowing me to interrupt. Be well.

Awwww...you just stole the thunder from one of his favorite insults!

[Paul Newell]

Thanks Mike.

I wondered if I would be pulled into this. You have a valid question Paul. I created the website comicsintheclassroom.net in the Fall of 2005 after hearing a boys literacy expert speak to all of the teachers in my school district about the importance of valuing all forms of reading. A buddy helped me launch and now two versions of the site later I am what I am. With the help of a couple industry people I had a press release writted and sent out. Rick caught notice of me through that (I think I am remembering that bit correctly) He informed me that he owned the copyright to the name Comics in the Classroom, and after a phone conversation he liked what he heard and he allowed me to keep using the name as long as I gave the copyright credit at the bottom of the screen. That is really all there is to it. He has nothing to do with my site other than the copyright thing. I own the domain name and everything that has to do with it.

I will respond to any reasonable questions, but since my dealings with him have been possitive I don't think I can add much.
No worries Scott. Thanks for replying.

Also great work! I love what you're doing and think it's great for you to take the time and make your worthwhile idea's reality.

Goodonya! :)

[TCJohnson]

For those of you who remember, Norm is a legend (at least in my opinion) and had one of the greatest runs on Detective and Batman ever.

Just wanted to say I agree. Except for stuff done by grank Miller, all my favorite Batman stories came from the team of Grant/Breyfogle, and all my favorite Batman villains that were created after the 70s were created by those two.

I really wish he would return to DC or Marvel, I loved his stuff!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/72/BreyfogleBatman.jpg/400px-BreyfogleBatman.jpg

[CitC]

Have you done a copyright search to see if he was telling the truth?

I did not, but at the time I was brand new and had never even thought of stuff like copyright and (this was my thought at the time - I am not making a joke - seriously!!) I was happy that I was not being sued. I could not at the time justify the expense of a title search,etc. This is not exactly a big moneymaking venture for me.

[Mike Bullock]

Scott, thanks for coming over.

Have you done a copyright search to see if he was telling the truth?

http://www.loc.gov/cgi-bin/formprocessor/copyright/locis.pl

Registered Works Database (Title Search)
Search For: COMICS IN THE CLASSROOM
Check one or more terms, select the type of output display, and then click Submit:

COMICS FUN MACHINE (1 item)
COMICS II (1 item)
COMICS IN YOUR CURRICULUM (1 item)
COMICS JOURNAL (1 item)
COMICS JOURNAL, OCT. 1979 (1 item)
COMICS LIBRARIANSHIP (1 item)
COMICS MACHINE ; BUG 2000 (1 item)
COMICS MACHINE PRESENTS (1 item)
COMICS MAITRES DE L'UNIVERS (1 item)
COMICS MOSAIC COLLECTION, SICIS, WWW.SICIS (1 item)
COMICS OF ELI SHAPIRO, INCLUDING ROOSTER & (1 item)
COMICS OF THE EIGHTIES (2 items)

Not on the list. Looks like Rick might ( >gasp< say it ain't so) have once again been fibbing.

[Matt Doc Martin]

And I heard from another creator that will NOT be attending a MMC anytime...ever.

Thanx for the link....

I'm sure glad I dropped out of of going to that con.

I found his dealing VERY weird myself and....

ran like hell!!!!

[colleen]

Um...

You can't copyright a name.

You can only TRADEMARK it. Names are not copyrightable.



Unless the name has been used in commerce and trademark intent affixed, there is no trademark. The copyright law does not apply here.

Intent to trademark is indicated by a TM. A federally registered trademark is indicated by an R in a circle.

Simply writing Comics in the Classroom does not mean you own the phrase.


Geez.


c

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Like my new signature, Rick?

Aloha,

Scott!

Your holding him down Shaw ! He's a LEGEND KILLER. He wants your spot in this industry and no ones gonna stop him. Its like a damn Randy Orton line...word for word. I've never seen someone in my time on CBR tell a comics pro this. ;)

[colleen]

http://www.loc.gov/cgi-bin/formprocessor/copyright/locis.pl

Registered Works Database (Title Search)
Search For: COMICS IN THE CLASSROOM
Check one or more terms, select the type of output display, and then click Submit:

COMICS FUN MACHINE (1 item)
COMICS II (1 item)
COMICS IN YOUR CURRICULUM (1 item)
COMICS JOURNAL (1 item)
COMICS JOURNAL, OCT. 1979 (1 item)
COMICS LIBRARIANSHIP (1 item)
COMICS MACHINE ; BUG 2000 (1 item)
COMICS MACHINE PRESENTS (1 item)
COMICS MAITRES DE L'UNIVERS (1 item)
COMICS MOSAIC COLLECTION, SICIS, WWW.SICIS (1 item)
COMICS OF ELI SHAPIRO, INCLUDING ROOSTER & (1 item)
COMICS OF THE EIGHTIES (2 items)

Not on the list. Looks like Rick might ( >gasp< say it ain't so) have once again been fibbing.

I could write a book tomorrow, call it Comics Machine, and it would be legal.

If there is no trademark registration for Comics Machine, there's no foul.

And even if there were a trademark registration for that name, it could be argued that a novel using the name would not interfere with the trademark of a comic book using the name, which is one of the reasons we have a world in which a comic book can be named Love and Rockets and a band can be named Love and Rockets.

However, if you wrote a book called Love and Rockets, and Love and Rockets is a registered trademark that has been used on books, you would have a problem.

But copyright is a non-issue here. You can't copyright a name.

c

[Mike Bullock]

Um...

You can't copyright a name.

You can only TRADEMARK it. Names are not copyrightable.



Unless the name has been used in commerce and trademark intent affixed, there is no trademark. The copyright law does not apply here.

Intent to trademark is indicated by a TM. A federally registered trademark is indicated by an R in a circle.

Simply writing Comics in the Classroom does not mean you own the phrase.


Geez.


c

Not to disagree with you, but you can copyright a phrase or a single word.

However, since Scott's usage is a title, you're absolutely right. And unless the exact logo was trademarked for use in the same field, it wouldn't be enough to sue Scott over.

[CitC]

Simply writing Comics in the Classroom does not mean you own the phrase.But he had the Comics in .... program that was the template for the Briges program.

You can't copyright a name. But at the bottom of Newsarama there is a copyright - so the name CAN be copyrighted, right.

Sorry that I am coming accross as so naive and a bit dumb on this, but I dealt with this over a year ago and kind of put it out of my head. Like I said, I was just happy that it all didn't blow up at the time.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Um...

You can't copyright a name.

You can only TRADEMARK it. Names are not copyrightable.



Unless the name has been used in commerce and trademark intent affixed, there is no trademark. The copyright law does not apply here.

Intent to trademark is indicated by a TM. A federally registered trademark is indicated by an R in a circle.

Simply writing Comics in the Classroom does not mean you own the phrase.


Geez.


c


If Rick screwed this guy its just horrid. And then stole most of the credit as well. Wow...thats just wrong and I'd use a long line of profanity but I used it all up on my ECW Review. ( only at the TV/Film Board ...plug slut that I am)

[Mike Bullock]

I could write a book tomorrow, call it Comics Machine, and it would be legal.

If there is no trademark registration for Comics Machine, there's no foul.

And even if there were a trademark registration for that name, it could be argued that a novel using the name would not interfere with the trademark of a comic book using the name, which is one of the reasons we have a world in which a comic book can be named Love and Rockets and a band can be named Love and Rockets.

However, if you wrote a book called Love and Rockets, and Love and Rockets is a registered trademark that has been used on books, you would have a problem.

But copyright is a non-issue here. You can't copyright a name.

c

We posted at the same time. :)

I fully agree with you. I was just trying to think of how someone might try to twist having a copyright on "Comics in the classroom" into some whacked out view of how these things work.

[TonyIsabella]

Just a sidebar...

When Barb and I were dealing with a deadbeat contractor, I contacted every single person and organization I could think of...local officials, the attorney general's office, the BBB, a professional home improvement organization, and every TV station and newspaper.

A local official, the AG's office, the BBB, and the HI organization all got invoved to some extent. But it wasn't until a TV station called him that he got back to work on our addition. Even then, we had to hire someone else to lay the floor.

We deducted that expense from our final payment to him. He ranted and even threatened me.

I told him I could put the entire final payment it in escrow until we sued him and reminded him that the TV station was getting regular updates from me. He signed off on the lesser amount. I didn't sue him, but I also didn't drop any of the complaints. They are all on the record should anyone thinking of hiring him want to check him and his company out.

So...don't discount the TV angle. Our story never got to close to getting on the air, but the station's calls to the contractor saved our bacon.

Tony Isabella

[Matt Doc Martin]

I just want to take a moment to address Rick.


Rick: If it hadn't been for Rich Johnston, I never would have known who you were. Then, after I asked an innocent question, you had to act the ass. That pissed me off, and I decided that you would not get away with it. Lo, and behold, Gail Simone calls you out here. Then others came forward.

You call me troll? You call me "Mickey Mouse"?

I call you "finished", peanut.

Stick a fork in you...you are DONE.

I am sad that you will not be attending MegaCon. I wanted a chance to call you on your bullshit to your face. But like a coward, you lied even about that.

The thing about lies is, you have to remember what lies you told and to who. You do not possess the brainpower to keep all your lies straight. And then you need to remember that if you piss off enough of the townspeople, they WILL come charging the castle. Or, in your case, a $70,000 duplex with a van for sale in the yard.

Take this lesson. Do not fuck with anyone here in this thread. YOu are out gunned and over matched. I warned you just about me, but you could not take a hint. How does it feel to be you now, fuckwit?

How. Does. It. Feel?

There are many good people that wish you no ill. I ain't one of them. A pox on you and everything you do, asshat. May clouds rain on you daily and the wolves tear you apart. And for every baseless threat you issued, may your suffering increase tenfold.

Now piss off.

[colleen]

I did not, but at the time I was brand new and had never even thought of stuff like copyright and (this was my thought at the time - I am not making a joke - seriously!!) I was happy that I was not being sued. I could not at the time justify the expense of a title search,etc. This is not exactly a big moneymaking venture for me.

I hate to break it to you, but the copyright notice you have affixed to your website assures that Olney is declared to be the copyright holder of the content of the site, not that he simply claims to own the name of the site, which, by your account, he has no right to own.

You don't copyright a NAME.

There is no copyright on the logo for SUPERMAN. There is a TRADEMARK on the logo for SUPERMAN.

You COPYRIGHT stories and art. You TRADEMARK the symbols of your TRADE. LIKE NAMES AND LOGOS.

There is no trademark notice affixed on that site whatsoever.

[TonyIsabella]

Doc Absurd...

Did you ever get the e-mail I sent you last night?

Tony

[TomStillwell]

But he had the Comics in .... program that was the template for the Briges program.

But at the bottom of Newsarama there is a copyright - so the name CAN be copyrighted, right.

Sorry that I am coming accross as so naive and a bit dumb on this, but I dealt with this over a year ago and kind of put it out of my head. Like I said, I was just happy that it all didn't blow up at the time.

I would go ahead and remove the TightLip tagline from the bottom of your site. One, Rick lied to you, he doesn't own anything. Two, you really don't want anyone associating you with Olney at this point.

You have a great program that you worked hard to get going. He deserves no credit.

[DocAbsurd]

Holy Batshit.

Just got an email from someone who I'm keeping anonymous for the time being; all I can say is that he worked closely with Ronee on the botched TLE experiment.

I'm just gonna c-n-p a couple pertinent points from his email to the News10 crew:

'I have a contract with him . . . that . . . he terminated December 24th, 2006, blaming me for his own negligence. In the . . . months I worked for him, my invoices totalling [over $14,000] piled up, unpaid. He is further provoking me with legal threats to complete . . . a particular book titled TALES OF THE SPOOKY #1.'

Now we know where the 'legal wranglings' stem from.

'But, his promises to pay myself and the assembled 28 freelance contractors . . . dragged on a further 6 months since, and on one book alone, he amassed a debt of $25,000 more.'

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu udge.

On top of what's been stated here, that's another $40,480 he owes to creators. He owes more for work completed in the past 12 months than most people earn in a fiscal year.

'60 pages of comic book art and writing are assembled and unheard of by the world because he refuses to pay.'

And I was bitching and moaning about what he owes me for 9 measly columns? I'm ashamed of myself. I got another email this morning from a nearby creator who's gonna have to put off his marriage plans because Moby refuses to pay him and he had counted on that money to help finance their upcoming nuptials. Now that is fucking pond scum.

Note the date of my friend's contract with Olney being terminated: December 24th. That's the week after I spoke out, the very same day he deleted the ICC stuff. He set out to not only screw everyone, but to purposely kill our holidays with these actions.

After yesterday's riotous outbursts and your subsequent deletion of your posts today, I pretty much figured you couldn't possibly sink any lower in my opinion, Moby.

Once again you continue to amaze.




Doc 'Worthless in More Ways Than One' Absurd

[Cully Hamner]

Posts by Momma Absurd, Corrina, Kurt Busiek, James Owen and many, many others remind me why I love posting here on YABS (heck, even Cully's posts! (I would put a smiley here, but they have been forever ruined for me).

Um... Did I miss something?:confused:

[CitC]

I hate to break it to you, but the copyright notice......

All right - bear with me.

If someone did have a published program with the same name, I would still be alright since I am not publishing, I just have a website.

I keep thinking of the guy that had a blog called Veronica.com (not it, but you get the idea) and Archie tried to force him to change it (Oversimplification Archie people, I know :) ).

[colleen]

But he had the Comics in .... program that was the template for the Briges program.

But at the bottom of Newsarama there is a copyright - so the name CAN be copyrighted, right.

Sorry that I am coming accross as so naive and a bit dumb on this, but I dealt with this over a year ago and kind of put it out of my head. Like I said, I was just happy that it all didn't blow up at the time.


NO. That is NOT what the copyright notice means.

The copyright notice at the bottom of the newsarama site means that the CONTENT of the site is copyrighted. Get it? The interviews, articles, etc. THAT's what that means.

IT doesn't mean a FRICKING THING if he had a program to get comics into the classroom as if that hasn't been done a hundred times before. It doesn't mean he owns the idea. You CANNOT COPYRIGHT AN IDEA. You can only copyright THE EXECUTION OF THE IDEA!!!

ANYONE on the planet can run a comics in the classroom program and there isn't a damned thing stopping you!!!

For God's sake, what this thread needs is a legal primer in the classroom, and there isn't a single creator who has any business not getting to a library and checking out a book on basic art and entertainment law. This is beginner's stuff, folks. EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW THIS FOR THEIR OWN PROTECTION!!!

And ALL of this information is free and available ON THE INTERNET FOR YOUR EDIFICATION at the copyright office website at http://www.copyright.gov


What does copyright protect?
Copyright, a form of intellectual property law, protects original works of authorship including literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works, such as poetry, novels, movies, songs, computer software, and architecture. Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation, although it may protect the way these things are expressed. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section "What Works Are Protected."

Can I copyright my website?
The original authorship appearing on a website may be protected by copyright. This includes writings, artwork, photographs, and other forms of authorship protected by copyright. Procedures for registering the contents of a website may be found in Circular 66, Copyright Registration for Online Works.

Can I copyright my domain name?
Copyright law does not protect domain names. The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), a nonprofit organization that has assumed the responsibility for domain name system management, administers the assignation of domain names through accredited registers.

How do I protect my recipe?
A mere listing of ingredients is not protected under copyright law. However, where a recipe or formula is accompanied by substantial literary expression in the form of an explanation or directions, or when there is a collection of recipes as in a cookbook, there may be a basis for copyright protection. Note that if you have secret ingredients to a recipe that you do not wish to be revealed, you should not submit your recipe for registration, because applications and deposit copies are public records. See FL 122, Recipes.

Can I copyright the name of my band?
No. Names are not protected by copyright law. Some names may be protected under trademark law. Contact the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office, 800-786-9199, for further information.




I don't mean to shout, but by God, I now have a migraine.


c

[Solaris]

I have been reluctant to speak about him publically. But...

My name is Chuck Satterlee. I am currently a small press writer with a few series out there. I am also an employee of Markosia Enterprises.

My history goes back a couple years with Rick.

When I had two series at Speakeasy, one of those series...(Of Bitter Souls) was drawn by Norm Breyfogle. For those of you who remember, Norm is a legend (at least in my opinion) and had one of the greatest runs on Detective and Batman ever. Norm is also one of the nicest and most generous people in comics. Back then, Rick had contacted Norm and invited him to go to his Mighty Mini-Con. Rick was supposed to pay for the trip, hotel, and give him a $100 per diem. I remember that Norm and I had the opportunity to sign together at a bigger convention but Norm, who NEVER breaks his word, had already said yes to Rick. The days drew closer to the show...and no word about his plane ticket or accomidations. Then the day came...and no word and Norm was blown off. When Norm spoke about this on the Speakeasy boards, Rick went into what can only be described as the mother of all rants. He had a ton of excuses why his behavior was not unprofessional.

Then time passed.

Norm, being the forgiving guy he is, agreed the following year to try it again.

Same result.

Then, because I guess I am an idiot...I fell for it as well.

Rick invited a bunch of Markosia creators to the MIghty Mini-Con. Same promises...

The list included:

Freddie E. Williams II who is a very good friend of mine.
Tom Hall and Daniel Bradford who are doing a book for Markosia.
Me
Brian Augustyn
Chris Dibari
JOse Torres
Sal Cipriano

Freddie...who is exclusive at DC now, and my other friends waited and waited for the travel arrangements and such.

Nothing...

Repeated e-mails asking for clarification...

Nothing...

Then, he told us he had some family problems and deaths...

He siad that is why he did not contact anybody.

Poor Ronee kept trying to get word to us but she knew nothing during that time either.

Now, we're just small press, but we all scheduled that time and believe me, every show counts when you're small press. We all gave up other shows to do this.

Then...and it starts to get weird here...

He started contacting me and asking if I had been talking poorly of him. I really hadn;t. I had kept this to myself and so did ALL of my firends.

I am no angel. I have had my share of public internet fights. But man...this was crazy. He kept quizzing me on who might be talking about him. I tried just to forget the problems and he kept contacting me through myspace. I just don;t get him. Let sleeping dogs lie or some shit like that. Why keep dragging this on with people?

Apparently, Norm and my friends and I were lucky, we were only inconvienienced and not out the money.

This story keeps getting more and more odd. It seems like just about everyone has had a run-in with him at one time or another.

I am sure I am next to get sued now. But hey...if I only said it twenty times, I am small press, I could use a good court case to get some publicity. :)

Bless you for sharing your story! It's one more bullet in the hail against this man. And if I were you, I wouldn't worry about Olney suing YOU... I think all of that is bluff and bluster. Besides, given the number of people who have been cheated as you guys were, plus the number who have remained unpaid by him, he'd never in a million years have enough money to pay for all the "lawsuits" he threatens he'll level.

Rest easily. He won't sue you, no matter how much hot air he blows about it. First, he's in the wrong, and he knows it; second, he could never afford to sue every person he's threatened.

[KevinTBrown]

By the way, I want to applaud the efforts to prevent Olney from deleting and/or altering his posts.

Though I must admit I do miss the blustering, feeble minded, fool's posts.







(Damn, for a sadist, that's sure masochistic of me...... :p )

[Solaris]

Thanks Mike.

I wondered if I would be pulled into this. You have a valid question Paul. I created the website comicsintheclassroom.net in the Fall of 2005 after hearing a boys literacy expert speak to all of the teachers in my school district about the importance of valuing all forms of reading. A buddy helped me launch and now two versions of the site later I am what I am. With the help of a couple industry people I had a press release writted and sent out. Rick caught notice of me through that (I think I am remembering that bit correctly) He informed me that he owned the copyright to the name Comics in the Classroom, and after a phone conversation he liked what he heard and he allowed me to keep using the name as long as I gave the copyright credit at the bottom of the screen. That is really all there is to it. He has nothing to do with my site other than the copyright thing. I own the domain name and everything that has to do with it.

I will respond to any reasonable questions, but since my dealings with him have been possitive I don't think I can add much.

I just have to ask this... did you ever CHECK to see if he truly DOES own said copyright??? I strongly suspect that he doesn't, or that he filed one AFTER seeing your site.

It's worth checking on. Go for it.

[colleen]

All right - bear with me.

If someone did have a published program with the same name, I would still be alright since I am not publishing, I just have a website.

I keep thinking of the guy that had a blog called Veronica.com (not it, but you get the idea) and Archie tried to force him to change it (Oversimplification Archie people, I know :) ).

BECAUSE ARCHIE COMICS OWNS THE REGISTERED TRADEMARK ON THE logo VERONICA.

NOT COPYRIGHT. Copyright has NOTHING to do with this.

[CitC]

Coleen. I feel like you're holding back. Let it all out. :)

I am feeling pretty stupid now, but remember what I said: Sorry that I am coming accross as so naive and a bit dumb on this, but I dealt with this over a year ago and kind of put it out of my head. Like I said, I was just happy that it all didn't blow up at the time.

I had no reason not to trust him, and every reason to be thankful that I didn't have to shut down and rename and go through a title search and all that so it didn't happen again.

[bert]

Um... Did I miss something?:confused:

nope. .

I just wanted to pick on ya.

seemed like the right thing to do


(DAMN. .this no smileys thing is REALLY REALLY hard).

[Paul Newell]

But he had the Comics in .... program that was the template for the Briges program.
Pardon my asking, what's the Briges Program?
But at the bottom of Newsarama there is a copyright - so the name CAN be copyrighted, right.
As Colleen said, the Copyright at Newsarama covers the site and its content, not the name. That's why you don't see the little © next Newsarama's logo or whenever Newsarama is mentioned at the site.
Sorry that I am coming accross as so naive and a bit dumb on this, but I dealt with this over a year ago and kind of put it out of my head. Like I said, I was just happy that it all didn't blow up at the time.
No worries. :)
When it comes to stuff like copyright and trademark it can get very confusing quickly. You learn this stuff when working as a creator of any kind, even a lowly animator like myself. Particularly when people are thrusting contracts at you.

[TCJohnson]

By the way, I want to applaud the efforts to prevent Olney from deleting and/or altering his posts.


I know! I was watching at the time and I was amazed at how fast he was able to do that...especially with CBR acting so slow. God help me I was impressed by the little lemming!

[colleen]

Coleen. I feel like you're holding back. Let it all out. :)

I am feeling pretty stupid now, but remember what I said:

I had no reason not to trust him, and every reason to be thankful that I didn't have to shut down and rename and go through a title search and all that so it didn't happen again.

I hate to break it to you, but the way you have affixed that notice publicly declares he owns all the writing, design and art you have done.

[TCJohnson]

Um... Did I miss something?:confused:

It is YABS tradition to make fun of all professionals who stay here more than a day.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I just want to take a moment to address Rick.


Rick: If it hadn't been for Rich Johnston, I never would have known who you were. Then, after I asked an innocent question, you had to act the ass. That pissed me off, and I decided that you would not get away with it. Lo, and behold, Gail Simone calls you out here. Then others came forward.

You call me troll? You call me "Mickey Mouse"?

I call you "finished", peanut.

Stick a fork in you...you are DONE.

I am sad that you will not be attending MegaCon. I wanted a chance to call you on your bullshit to your face. But like a coward, you lied even about that.

The thing about lies is, you have to remember what lies you told and to who. You do not possess the brainpower to keep all your lies straight. And then you need to remember that if you piss off enough of the townspeople, they WILL come charging the castle. Or, in your case, a $70,000 duplex with a van for sale in the yard.

Take this lesson. Do not fuck with anyone here in this thread. YOu are out gunned and over matched. I warned you just about me, but you could not take a hint. How does it feel to be you now, fuckwit?

How. Does. It. Feel?

There are many good people that wish you no ill. I ain't one of them. A pox on you and everything you do, asshat. May clouds rain on you daily and the wolves tear you apart. And for every baseless threat you issued, may your suffering increase tenfold.

Now piss off.

I don't want shitstain to miss this.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I know! I was watching at the time and I was amazed at how fast he was able to do that...especially with CBR acting so slow. God help me I was impressed by the little lemming!

That walking fart still doesn't know what a lemming is, even given that I provided pictures and a definition.

[colleen]

Pardon my asking, what's the Briges Program?

As Colleen said, the Copyright at Newsarama covers the site and its content, not the name. That's why you don't see the little © next Newsarama's logo or whenever Newsarama is mentioned at the site.

No worries. :)
When it comes to stuff like copyright and trademark it can get very confusing quickly. You learn this stuff when working as a creator of any kind, even a lowly animator like myself. Particularly when people are thrusting contracts at you.


And unscupulous people use the ignorance of young creators all the time to rook them out of rights to their work. It burns me up.

Remind me to tell you how First Comics walked away with the trademarks of their books while the creators didn't even know what had happened to them.

[wishlish]

Holy Batshit.
'But, his promises to pay myself and the assembled 28 freelance contractors . . . dragged on a further 6 months since, and on one book alone, he amassed a debt of $25,000 more.'

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu udge.

On top of what's been stated here, that's another $40,480 he owes to creators. He owes more for work completed in the past 12 months than most people earn in a fiscal year.

'60 pages of comic book art and writing are assembled and unheard of by the world because he refuses to pay.'


40K? On one book? ONE book, maybe two at most?

How the hell was he ever going to break even on the project? Maybe I don't really know the logistics of an indy book, but if he somehow managed to clear $1-2 after printing and distributor discounts, he'd have to sell 20-40 thousand copies! There are Marvel and DC books that don't sell that well!

Did he EVER intend to pay anyone?

By the way, your friend rocks. Tell him to come onto the thread. There's safety in numbers. We got his back.

Wow. Just. Wow.

[KevinTBrown]

I know! I was watching at the time and I was amazed at how fast he was able to do that...especially with CBR acting so slow. God help me I was impressed by the little lemming!

He probably had about 50 windows opened at once..... :rolleyes:



Pathetic, truly pathetic.


The man is definitely making a very strong case for birth control though. :p

[TCJohnson]

Pardon my asking, what's the Briges Program?

It was a program by Crossgen to get comics into the classroom for educational programs, very similiar to Comics in the Classroom.

[CitC]

I hate to break it to you, but the way you have affixed that notice publicly declares he owns all the writing, design and art you have done. And that is what has made me feel like the biggest chump.


And the Bridges Program was the curriculum Crossgen produced to go with some of its titles

[chucksatterlee]

Bless you for sharing your story! It's one more bullet in the hail against this man. And if I were you, I wouldn't worry about Olney suing YOU... I think all of that is bluff and bluster. Besides, given the number of people who have been cheated as you guys were, plus the number who have remained unpaid by him, he'd never in a million years have enough money to pay for all the "lawsuits" he threatens he'll level.

Rest easily. He won't sue you, no matter how much hot air he blows about it. First, he's in the wrong, and he knows it; second, he could never afford to sue every person he's threatened.


Thanks. I just leanred my lesson a long time ago and I didn;t really want to go public with this, but then...maybe if people read this, they will not fall for it.

Mike BUllock can atest to my past rants on message boards.

I am so much more tame these days, Mike.

In part due to your lead. Thanks.

[Solaris]

CitC:

Listen to Colleen. She's got a lotta sense and experience in what she says.

Further, I agree with the others: take his "copyright" info off your site IMMEDIATELY. He snowed you with a lie, it's high time you quit endorsing it out of your own ignorance of laws pertaining to such matters. (Which is understandable, but there you are.)

Finally, note what I said to someone else in this thread: Olney cannot POSSIBLY sue every person he's threatened... he'd have to have the fortune of Bill Gates to do so.

You are involved in an admirable and noble venture, sir: quit worry about this pond scum trying to tie you up in legal battles, remove reference to him from your site, and continue focusing on what you do best: helping these kids.

Let everyone else here handle the rest of it. Trust me: with all this crap going public, Olney will NEVER sue ANYONE.

In fact, he's running more scared than a bunny with a doctor in search of a rabbit test, right now. :D

[colleen]

And that is what has made me feel like the biggest chump.


And the Bridges Program was the curriculum Crossgen produced to go with some of its titles


I am so sorry this happened to you.

Remove it immediately, affix your TM notice and corrected copyright notice, and declare that the prior copyright notification was in error.


Do it now.

[Corrina]

Coleen. I feel like you're holding back. Let it all out. :)

I am feeling pretty stupid now, but remember what I said:

I had no reason not to trust him, and every reason to be thankful that I didn't have to shut down and rename and go through a title search and all that so it didn't happen again.

You have no reason to feel stupid. You were a reasonable human being, and expected the same of others. And as many great people have proved in this thread, 90 percent of the time, that assumption would be correct.

It wasn't in this particular case, but please don't feel as if the fault is yours. Olney apparently is very, very good at fraud.

[Momma Absurd]

:rolleyes: It is YABS tradition to make fun of all professionals who stay here more than a day.

hey now TC.......I don't make fun of professionals, just no talent ONERY asswipes.......*SMILES* :rolleyes:

[Cully Hamner]

It is YABS tradition to make fun of all professionals who stay here more than a day.

Ah, I see. Carry on, then.

[KevinTBrown]

In fact, he's running more scared than a bunny with a doctor in search of a rabbit test, right now. :D

Heh.

I love that line... :D

[NatGertler]

But at the bottom of Newsarama there is a copyright - so the name CAN be copyrighted, right.No, wrong. The notice on Newsarama is saying that Newsarama holds copyright in the website, not in the name.

Even if Rick could be said to own a copyright in the phrase "comics in the classroom", that would not prevent your use of it. Copyright is not intended to protect one against accidental similarity, only copying. Someone else could write a novel that was a word-for-word match of Gone With The Wind, and it would be legal as long as they weren't deriving it (intentionally or not) from Gone With The Wind.

As a phrase, he would be hard-pressed to claim originality anyway. Here's a book from 1975 (http://AAUGH.com/to.htm?B000H5BU7U) that uses that phrase in the title. Here's another one from 1983 (http://aaugh.com/to.htm?0872873579). And here's a book from 1989 (http://aaugh.com/to.htm?B000720IX0) where the phrase is the whole of the title.

Not old enough for you? Well, here's another book of the same name, from before Rick was born! (http://aaugh.com/to.htm?B0007JNEXE)

Now, if Rick claimed to have a trademark, he might possibly have a case. It would depend on what category he had that trademark in, whether he maintained that trademark, how generic the term was to the usage at hand, and so forth.

But if he told you that he had a copyright and thus you couldn't use it without his permission, then he misled you, and used you poorly.

[DocAbsurd]

The Bridges Program was also another notch on Moby's imaginary resume.

If he accomplished half of what he's laid claim to, he'd be the singularly most productive man in comics.

Near comics, sorry.

Oh, and Tony, check your email in about 10 minutes.




Doc 'Vivid Imagination' Absurd

[Solaris]

You have no reason to feel stupid. You were a reasonable human being, and expected the same of others. And as many great people have proved in this thread, 90 percent of the time, that assumption would be correct.

It wasn't in this particular case, but please don't feel as if the fault is yours. Olney apparently is very, very good at fraud.

I agree with this, and her prior post, 110%. Do it NOW, exactly as she said to do... and don't look back. Quit worrying about him suing you... he CAN'T. Besides, he defrauded you on the rights with a lie.

And don't feel dumb, please! Most people would have done the same, having the same amount of knowledge, and being approached by someone pretending to be a real "professional in the industry." I know I would have. :)

[Wil Radcliffe]

That walking fart still doesn't know what a lemming is, even given that I provided pictures and a definition.

Heh. Heh. Walking fart.

[TCJohnson]

I am feeling pretty stupid now.

You are not the only one having trouble understanding copyright law and you are not the only one to be conned by the lemming. Hell, I think even gail was taken in at first, and she had reason to not trust him.

[TomStillwell]

40K? On one book? ONE book, maybe two at most?

How the hell was he ever going to break even on the project? Maybe I don't really know the logistics of an indy book, but if he somehow managed to clear $1-2 after printing and distributor discounts, he'd have to sell 20-40 thousand copies! There are Marvel and DC books that don't sell that well!

Did he EVER intend to pay anyone?

By the way, your friend rocks. Tell him to come onto the thread. There's safety in numbers. We got his back.

Wow. Just. Wow.

I'm dumbfounded by that kind of spending. I'm a self publishing small press dude myself. I'd be completely insane to create anything with that kind of price tag.

[KevinTBrown]

The Bridges Program was also another notch on Moby's imaginary resume.

If he accomplished half of what he's laid claim to, he'd be the singularly most productive man in comics.

Near comics, sorry.

Oh, and Tony, check your email in about 10 minutes.




Doc 'Vivid Imagination' Absurd

I think, for now at least, we should all be thankful he's not the singularly most reproductive man in comics.....

:eek:










Ok, so I'm shooting blanks now. Give me a break. It's either that, or tease Cully. And I like cully's work way too much to do that. ;)

[Matt Doc Martin]

I compressed the files I have collected...I can now email the package to anyone that needs it.

[Solaris]

Heh.

I love that line... :D

I wrote it JUST for you... well, maybe. ;)

Sorry, but I had this really strong visual of the Olney bunny panting his little heart out, as (s)he runs from the knife-wielding doctor, trying to determine someone's pregnancy. :D I think I'm having flashbacks to that M.A.S.H. episode, where Margaret thinks she's pregnant. :D

[Matt Doc Martin]

Heh. Heh. Walking fart.

Love for that and not my rant?

*sigh*

i just don't have it anymore.

[KevinTBrown]

Hm, I wonder just how impotent (speaking of shooting blanks) Olney is feeling right about now..?

He essentially has a horde of people gunning for him and he's little or no recourse but to run away & hide. And I have absolutely NO pity for the poor man.

[jimmything2681]

Just a sidebar...

When Barb and I were dealing with a deadbeat contractor, I contacted every single person and organization I could think of...local officials, the attorney general's office, the BBB, a professional home improvement organization, and every TV station and newspaper.

A local official, the AG's office, the BBB, and the HI organization all got invoved to some extent. But it wasn't until a TV station called him that he got back to work on our addition. Even then, we had to hire someone else to lay the floor.

We deducted that expense from our final payment to him. He ranted and even threatened me.

I told him I could put the entire final payment it in escrow until we sued him and reminded him that the TV station was getting regular updates from me. He signed off on the lesser amount. I didn't sue him, but I also didn't drop any of the complaints. They are all on the record should anyone thinking of hiring him want to check him and his company out.

So...don't discount the TV angle. Our story never got to close to getting on the air, but the station's calls to the contractor saved our bacon.

Tony Isabella

IDEA. Anybody call new AG Andy Cuomo?

[jimmything2681]

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/contact.html

[Paul Newell]

And that is what has made me feel like the biggest chump.


And the Bridges Program was the curriculum Crossgen produced to go with some of its titles
Ah! Thanks guys. BTW, I just googled the "Comics in the Classroom" term and saw mention of the Crossgen effort.

The only other mentions I get, apart from yourself, Scott, is a Jeff Sharp. He apparently is an art teacher at a school at Maryland who's become well known enough to have appeared at Cons and had something to do with a deal between Diamond and Disney to supply books.

[KevinTBrown]

I wrote it JUST for you... well, maybe. ;)

Sorry, but I had this really strong visual of the Olney bunny panting his little heart out, as (s)he runs from the knife-wielding doctor, trying to determine someone's pregnancy. :D I think I'm having flashbacks to that M.A.S.H. episode, where Margaret thinks she's pregnant. :D

Yeah, but in this case, I think even Radar would hold the little liar down to cut off his..... um, well, you know.

[CitC]

I am so sorry this happened to you.

Remove it immediately, affix your TM notice and corrected copyright notice, and declare that the prior copyright notification was in error.


What should that look like exactly?

Comics in the Classroom copyright (c) 2006 Scott Tingley, All rights reserved.
Previous Copyright information was incorrect.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Just got an email from someone who I'm keeping anonymous for the time being; all I can say is that he worked closely with Ronee on the botched TLE experiment.


I got the same e-mail and it inspired me to e-mail Channel 10 as well.

When I think of how Rick has used so many good people I respect and admire... I want to see the lying sack of insignificance flogged.

[TCJohnson]

:rolleyes:

hey now TC.......I don't make fun of professionals, just no talent ONERY asswipes.......*SMILES* :rolleyes:

don't worry, you just haven't been corrupted enough yet. But you will be, oh, you will be. By the time we are done with you, you will be as nutty as Tony Isabella! (See how easy that is!)

[NatGertler]

Heh. Heh. Walking fart.I think you've got that confused. I think the phrase is "falking wart".

[Corrina]

I'm dumbfounded by that kind of spending. I'm a self publishing small press dude myself. I'd be completely insane to create anything with that kind of price tag.

That's probably how he attracted people, by quoting them high page rates.

[bert]

I think you've got that confused. I think the phrase is "falking wart".

I always thought it was "Creeping Death". . .

you know the kind that lingers around the corners of the room, LONG after the initial eruption of gas.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Love for that and not my rant?

*sigh*

i just don't have it anymore.

Well, you spend all day around a 3 1/2 year old. Fart, pee pee, and poo poo become comedy gold!

Now if you jangled your keys in front of me, I'd pee my pants.

[Wil Radcliffe]

I think you've got that confused. I think the phrase is "falking wart".

At least a wart will go away with a little medication. Rick and his odor linger on.

[KevinTBrown]

I always thought it was "Creeping Death". . .

you know the kind that lingers around the corners of the room, LONG after the initial eruption of gas.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, kind of how Gail describes the odiferous effects of a one Rick Olney.

[colleen]

What should that look like exactly?

Comics in the Classroom copyright (c) 2006 Scott Tingley, All rights reserved.
Previous Copyright information was incorrect.


Rephrase to:

The prior copyright notice was in error. The correct copyright notification is Comics in the Classroom, (C) Scott Tingley 2007 All rights reserved.

Add

Comics in the Classroom and the Comics in the Classroom logo are trademarks TM of Scott Tinsley 2007

That is, if you want the trademark. If you don't, leave it off.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I can't believe Rick owes 60,000 for 1 book. He must be the Axl Rose of comics. ( considerin that Rose has racked up $ 13 million for one album !)

[Paul Newell]

But he had the Comics in .... program that was the template for the Briges program.
Just found an article, a con report by Jim MacQuarrie that appeared right here at CBR, naming Jeff Sharp as the "founder of the Comics in the Classroom" program you mentioned here.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=5602

No idea if Rick Olney had anything to do with it....But my guess? Probably not. :)

[OzBat!]

That's probably how he attracted people, by quoting them high page rates.well, that's going to bite him on the arse, because those are the contracted rates he's going to be held accountable for.

40thou for one project, plus the scattered thousands here there and everywhere for all the other people he's stiffed, just in the last few years alone.

If he comes out of this with his house still, I'll be very surprised. That is incredibly sad for his family, that everything is at risk because of his conniving greed.

[Solaris]

Hm, I wonder just how impotent (speaking of shooting blanks) Olney is feeling right about now..?

He essentially has a horde of people gunning for him and he's little or no recourse but to run away & hide. And I have absolutely NO pity for the poor man.

Given the way he's treated the multitudes of his victims, neither do I. It was his choice to do so... now he has to face the music.

As to references someone made earlier to him being sociopathic, I think they were dead on. It's all about Rick: his life, his tragedies, his rep, his flak he's getting "undeservedly". He doesn't seem to give a flying fuck that other people involved in his work and/or cons have had tragedies going on while they were trying to keep their obligations to him, including Gail's mother being in the hospital, that guy who's had to postpone his wedding, etc.

That sounds pretty textbook sociopath to me, as it's been described to me. Con Artists (like Olney) often do see life in such an uberly-egocentric fashion. So (sounding textbook) does his talent for charming, using, and discarding people... and turning on them after they wise up or he has no further use for them.

Con men always think that they'll find *some* way out: someone to finagle, to charm, to "let them off the hook" when the chips finally hit the fan. Funny thing is, while this works sometimes, it DOESN'T work when too many people are "in the know" about it. That's why he's rabbiting, and that's why he was deleting his posts, and cutting access to his other net contacts/forums: he's scared. He knows his number has finally come up, and he's trying to cover his tracks. Sad thing is, he's too stupid to realize that such efforts are not only worthless, but are simply further proof of the kind of amoral egocentric scumbag he is.

Fortunately for the rest of us, there really aren't that many Rick Olneys in the world... and when we *do* encounter them, hopefully sooner or later people will do exactly as they're doing now: shining the spotlight on his multiple various and nefarious activities, seeing his bluffs for what they truly are, and taking steps to put him exactly where he belongs: under the impartial scrutiny of law enforcement and the justice system.

Run, Rabbit, Run.

:D

[JTPencils]

I just want to take a moment to address Rick.


Rick: If it hadn't been for Rich Johnston, I never would have known who you were. Then, after I asked an innocent question, you had to act the ass. That pissed me off, and I decided that you would not get away with it. Lo, and behold, Gail Simone calls you out here. Then others came forward.

You call me troll? You call me "Mickey Mouse"?

I call you "finished", peanut.

Stick a fork in you...you are DONE.

I am sad that you will not be attending MegaCon. I wanted a chance to call you on your bullshit to your face. But like a coward, you lied even about that.

The thing about lies is, you have to remember what lies you told and to who. You do not possess the brainpower to keep all your lies straight. And then you need to remember that if you piss off enough of the townspeople, they WILL come charging the castle. Or, in your case, a $70,000 duplex with a van for sale in the yard.

Take this lesson. Do not fuck with anyone here in this thread. YOu are out gunned and over matched. I warned you just about me, but you could not take a hint. How does it feel to be you now, fuckwit?

How. Does. It. Feel?

There are many good people that wish you no ill. I ain't one of them. A pox on you and everything you do, asshat. May clouds rain on you daily and the wolves tear you apart. And for every baseless threat you issued, may your suffering increase tenfold.

Now piss off.

Don't hold back Doc, how do you really feel about it?

I have to say, as one of the first to get the shafters by this guy, it's amazing and sort of heart warming that there are others that are standing up against this debacle. Not that I like seeing others get the same treatment as I did, that's just wrong. But to see a whole community stand up, when I felt sort of alone in this (at the time)... it just makes me feel better about being involved and working (in my own small fashion) in this field.

Thanks...

[KevinTBrown]

Well, you spend all day around a 3 1/2 year old. Fart, pee pee, and poo poo become comedy gold!

Now if you jangled your keys in front of me, I'd pee my pants.

Jangle, jangle jangle.....

http://childrenofthesun.net/images/6keyhouse.jpg










:D

[CitC]

That is, if you want the trademark. If you don't, leave it off. Is that all there is to getting the tm? It is my art design and my logo.

[Solaris]

I always thought it was "Creeping Death". . .

you know the kind that lingers around the corners of the room, LONG after the initial eruption of gas.



The D&D term is "Stinking Cloud," which is an actual spell in the books.

Never had such a prime example of it before now, though. :D

[TomStillwell]

That's probably how he attracted people, by quoting them high page rates.

But see, that would have sent up a huge warning flag to me as a creator.

Imagine, if you will, that I'm actually a gifted writer at the top of my craft. Please, I know it's hard but bear with me.

Joe Blow from Acme Publishing contacts me and agrees to pay my going rate, a rate that usually only decent sized labels can handle with relative easy.

Acme has never published anything. Joe Blow is no one of note and not known to be rolling in dough. His reputation is a bit suspect and it seems his organizational skills are horribly lacking.

At this point I'd be saying thanks but no thanks. Unless I'd be seeing some serious up front money and background checks looked good.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Jangle, jangle jangle.....

http://childrenofthesun.net/images/6keyhouse.jpg


You owe me a new pair of shorts, Mister!

[KevinTBrown]

You owe me a new pair of shorts, Mister!

Sue me.


I've got an attorney on retainer for small claims.

[Solaris]

Is that all there is to getting the tm? It is my art design and my logo.


My advice would be to go ahead and add "TM" to your design, logo, etc.... and then investigate if you need to file some kind of official papers on it. But get your credit on it first, before he tries to do so. In the end, he'd still lose in a legal battle... but why wait for that to happen? (Again, IF it ever did---I don't see him having money at this point to even cover the multitude of lawsuits coming HIS way right now. Hee.)

[matterconsumer]

Hope he gets unbanned soon.

He should be given every opportunity to legally jeopardize himself...

[Paul Newell]

Is that all there is to getting the tm? It is my art design and my logo.
You're in Canada, right?

This should hopefully help:

http://sbinfocanada.about.com/od/trademarks/Trademarks_and_Trademark_Registration.htm

[Corrina]

Acme has never published anything. Joe Blow is no one of note and not known to be rolling in dough. His reputation is a bit suspect and it seems his organizational skills are horribly lacking.

At this point I'd be saying thanks but no thanks. Unless I'd be seeing some serious up front money and background checks looked good.

But you run your own business, so you know the ins and outs.

Suppose you're an artist, you've never self-published. And you're talented but don't have much work. And someone comes along and quotes a great rate and you check him out and he seems to have hosted a Con, and he seems to have the Bridges to the Classroom program, and he's been involved in the indy publishing community.

If you have bills to pay, and someone's offering the job, a job you've had a lot of trouble finding...and the surface looks good....