Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Gail Simone]

Oh, please do! I actually have a house I've arranged to have dropped out of the sky on you once you leave your house in your ruby slippers. lol

Of course, I'm kidding...

We get it. When you say something idiotic and only you laugh, you're kidding.

Dude, you suck. Give up writing as an aspiration. You'd be a fabulous...uh...

...whatever job requires you to be a lying deadbeat.

Gail

[THEDOC]

I say again, Dennis is a good guy. He knows a lot of this shit with Rick, which baffles me, but he's still a good guy, and contrary to Rick's made-up bullshit (which he of course can't prove) the last two emails from Dennis, he offers very nicely to strike up a correspondence and says nice stuff about my work.

Rick, if you're going to lie, why bring your friend into it?

It's gross, is what it is.

Gail
Dennis was the only good thing left at MMC. I miss his articles.

[Michael P]

I actually left both of my last jobs in two different industries due to my health.

I hate to break this to you, Dickie, but that's not what "Get the hell out of here, you sick fuck" means.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Scott...I'm just enjoying the buzz of being listed with you, Kurt, and Mark as old news. I mean, next to you guys, I'm a sidebar at best.

Whereas the best Olney can hope for is being listed as a perp in "Crime Watch."

Tony Isabella


Curse you, Tony Isabella!

When I was laid off you actually had the nerve to offer me help with some free promotion! You evil, old warlock!

While the saint who is Rick Olney... uhm... he... uh... er... he....

*Shakes fist again*

Curse you, Tony Isabella! And your burning eyebrows too!

[khuxford]

Scott...I'm just enjoying the buzz of being listed with you, Kurt, and Mark as old news. I mean, next to you guys, I'm a sidebar at best.

Whereas the best Olney can hope for is being listed as a perp in "Crime Watch."

Tony Isabella

Tony, there are other people that benefit from your buzz of being listed with Scott, Kurt, and Mark. You called the only work I ever had the good chance of having published a "gem" in No Justice, No Piece #2 back in the 90s (I personally had the honor of handing you the comp at Wizard World Chicago). As your profile increases, so will my sense of self-worth. :D

[orcafresh]

Makes me wish I had saved all the mail I used to receive when I was putting together letter pages for various Topps comics. There were some incredible letters from Olney wherein he would rudely demand the company send him all sorts of free stuff for his "non-profit" organization. They were scary reading back then and would likely be more so today.

Tony

Tony, check your underwear drawer next to your silk boxers. I'm sure you stashed them there!

[THEDOC]

We get it. When you say something idiotic and only you laugh, you're kidding.

Dude, you suck. Give up writing as an aspiration. You'd be a fabulous...uh...

...whatever job requires you to be a lying deadbeat.

Gail

That would be head of MMC...oh he already does that!:eek:

[Gail Simone]

Well, I don't know who fed you that bit of lies, but it doesn't surprise me to what lengths you'll go, "Gail."

I actually left both of my last jobs in two different industries due to my health. I have a low tolerance for liars and assholes. Guess where you fit in between those two distinctions?

Hey, it's what one of your very best friends says about you, someone who hasn't yet shown up here.

He even told me the companies that laid you off, again, in his words.

And lots, lots more.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

Oh, please do! I actually have a house I've arranged to have dropped out of the sky on you once you leave your house in your ruby slippers. lol

Of course, I'm kidding...

Again, you make NO sense and are NOT funny.


Take your meds. Take fistful after fistful of your meds. Wash it down with whiskey. At least 2 fifths.

Then run towards the light.

[bert]

Welcome back, useless fuckwit.

Done with dishes?



nah. .he was busy working on a press release for Tightlip, on how he's been "working" with Colleen Doran, Tony Isabella, Mark Waid, Cully Hamner, James Owen, and all the other fine professionals who have taken part in this thread.

to him, this is all a collaborative effort to add to his resume

[orcafresh]

Dennis was the only good thing left at MMC. I miss his articles.

It's okay to feel that way, Lance. Lots of older guys like you have those feelings for other men as they grow older.

I'll let Dennis know that you're hot for his "articles"...great code word, by the way! But, you do know that he's straight, right?

[EdContradictory]

I didn't sell insurance, dickwad. I certainly wouldn't be hangin' out at the roach motels that you obviously frequent. :rolleyes:
What a lame and utterly "rubber and glue" comeback.

[kmeyers]

Tony, check your underwear drawer next to your silk boxers. I'm sure you stashed them there!

Why won't you address the people who have serious issues with you? Like Ronee, or Gail's flight payment question? Is it because you're a coward, or because you're a liar?

I bet this gets no answer.

[Matt Doc Martin]

It's okay to feel that way, Lance. Lots of older guys like you have those feelings for other men as they grow older.

I'll let Dennis know that you're hot for his "articles"...great code word, by the way! But, you do know that he's straight, right?

Says the man who claims his time in the Marines was spent on his back.

You cannot make this shit up!

[JTPencils]

I have to retract an earlier comparison I made between OWEney, and Charles Manson... Charlie makes sense sometimes. And he's accomplished something in his own strange way. OWEney can't make a similar claim!

[Michael P]

I have to retract an earlier comparison I made between OWEney, and Charles Manson... Charlie makes sense sometimes. And he's accomplished something in his own strange way. OWEney can't make a similar claim!

Also, the people who worked for Manson still support and defend him, even to this day.

[EdContradictory]

It's okay to feel that way, Lance. Lots of older guys like you have those feelings for other men as they grow older.

I'll let Dennis know that you're hot for his "articles"...great code word, by the way! But, you do know that he's straight, right?
What is with you and this homophobic crap?

You're so filled with hate.

And the best retort you can come up with is trying to insult someone's sexuality?

Your Archie Bunker-isms were played out ten years ago.

[THEDOC]

It's okay to feel that way, Lance. Lots of older guys like you have those feelings for other men as they grow older.

I'll let Dennis know that you're hot for his "articles"...great code word, by the way! But, you do know that he's straight, right?

I am so sorry that admiring Dennis' writings hurt you so much since you can't write as is obvious from the above. If you think you insulted me think again. Just shows what kind of guy you are. You a homophobe too "Rick"? Not surprising.

[orcafresh]

Hey, it's what one of your very best friends says about you, someone who hasn't yet shown up here.

He even told me the companies that laid you off, again, in his words.

And lots, lots more.

Gail

Hmmm... one of my "very best friends"... Suddenly I feel like I'm playing a part in that old television program, This is Your Life with Ralph Edwards. Oh, "Gail"! You simply MUSt tell me who you're talking about -- Because I can count all my "very best friends" on one hand. In fact, it would be a 3 fingered hand. So go ahead and share. You have my permission, not that THAT matters to you. lol :rolleyes:

[Ray R.]

Wow... that's surprising. Nice knowing you over the years, Gerry. You take care of yourself. Good luck with your projects and I hope that museum gets off the ground someday.

Rick,

Why don't you quit while the quitting's good. You're making an ass out of yourself. You're not just alienating comics professionals of all stripes, but potentially comic dealers like myself who will never have anything to do with someone who comes off like they're practically unhinged and takes an allegation of questionable business practices as a springboard to act like a lunatic.

I'm not a plebe or an acolyte. I'm a dealer of golden, silver and modern comics. But you're making it absolutely clear that when I pick five or six cons to do every year, the MMC won't be one of them. And avoid the insults if I were you. I know most of the national comic dealers, very well. And some have already grumbled to me about you.

Take this as helpful advice, put the keyboard down, get your affairs in order, and work to restore your reputation. People who know me, know that I wouldn't give that advice if I didn't mean it.

[orcafresh]

I am so sorry that admiring Dennis' writings hurt you so much since you can't write as is obvious from the above. If you think you insulted me think again. Just shows what kind of guy you are. You a homophobe too "Rick"? Not surprising.

:D What a fucknut.

[Gail Simone]

It's okay to feel that way, Lance. Lots of older guys like you have those feelings for other men as they grow older.

I'll let Dennis know that you're hot for his "articles"...great code word, by the way! But, you do know that he's straight, right?

More gay-bashing.

I'm sure your fake imaginary lawyer will love this stuff, Rick.

Gail

[TomStillwell]

We get it. When you say something idiotic and only you laugh, you're kidding.

Dude, you suck. Give up writing as an aspiration. You'd be a fabulous...uh...

...whatever job requires you to be a lying deadbeat.

Gail

I think that would be a lying deadbeat.

[Sir Tim Drake]

Nope. Nice try though. Have a nice life. :rolleyes:

I can't believe you just publicly declared that you're not going to pay someone the money you admittedly owe her.

Speaking as a disinterested observer who, prior to reading this thread, was only vaguely familiar with you and your business practices... I think your actions are utterly beneath contempt.

[THEDOC]

What is with you and this homophobic crap?

You're so filled with hate.

And the best retort you can come up with is trying to insult someone's sexuality?

Your Archie Bunker-isms were played out ten years ago.

He's a lost cause Ed. I think even Archie would be disgusted by him.

[TomStillwell]

We get it. When you say something idiotic and only you laugh, you're kidding.

Dude, you suck. Give up writing as an aspiration. You'd be a fabulous...uh...

...whatever job requires you to be a lying deadbeat.

Gail

I think that would be a lying deadbeat. The pay sucks but the hours are good.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Hmmm... one of my "very best friends"... Suddenly I feel like I'm playing a part in that old television program, This is Your Life with Ralph Edwards. Oh, "Gail"! You simply MUSt tell me who you're talking about -- Because I can count all my "very best friends" on one hand. In fact, it would be a 3 fingered hand. So go ahead and share. You have my permission, not that THAT matters to you. lol :rolleyes:

I have a finger for you, dick.

[Evan Waters]

Oh, please do! I actually have a house I've arranged to have dropped out of the sky on you once you leave your house in your ruby slippers. lol

It breaks my English Major's heart to see two metaphors so poorly twisted like that.

This guy doesn't know what lemmings are, doesn't know how schmuck has spelled, and now obviously hasn't actually seen THE WIZARD OF OZ. How he expects to produce anything creative with such major gaps in his cultural literacy is beyond me.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Ahhhhh this thread is losing its luster. I mean the threats , the sillyness , ect ect. I feel like I'm in a twisted version of the Twilight Zone of threads. I mean we all know basic right from wrong. We all know that by now or had parents to touch us that.

[khuxford]

Hmmm... one of my "very best friends"... Suddenly I feel like I'm playing a part in that old television program, This is Your Life with Ralph Edwards. Oh, "Gail"! You simply MUSt tell me who you're talking about -- Because I can count all my "very best friends" on one hand. In fact, it would be a 3 fingered hand. So go ahead and share. You have my permission, not that THAT matters to you. lol :rolleyes:

You know...I know of at least one other time that someone has already done a much better job making the THIS IS YOUR LIFE joke about your situation. Not only do you lie and cheat, but steal and repost a joke in the same thread that it originally occurred.

And Rick? I have a feeling you could be a quadruple amputee and still count your "very best friends" on one hand. Both because you literally have none and that you'd lie and still swear you had a hand to count them on...

Oh yeah...and I meant to say...anyone who makes even half the homophobic jokes you make about all your male detractors really has some sexual identity issues...normally hate for one's self due to not being able to accept your own homosexual impulses. Don't worry, though...I think we all know that it is the guy right behind you who's coming up with the jokes...because we know you aren't even creative enough for the gay jokes. :)

[Gail Simone]

Hmmm... one of my "very best friends"... Suddenly I feel like I'm playing a part in that old television program, This is Your Life with Ralph Edwards. Oh, "Gail"! You simply MUSt tell me who you're talking about -- Because I can count all my "very best friends" on one hand. In fact, it would be a 3 fingered hand. So go ahead and share. You have my permission, not that THAT matters to you. lol :rolleyes:

Nope! Sorry, monkey!

Soon, though!

Along with some very powerful stuff about Orca and how you ran it into the ground and took credit for the work of others.

It's awesome!


Gail

[THEDOC]

:D What a fucknut.

Is that your best? Wow your command of the english language inpresses me..not!

So I am a gay pimper. Kewl, my kids will get a kick out of that when I tell them!

[Gail Simone]

Rick,

Why don't you quit while the quitting's good. You're making an ass out of yourself. You're not just alienating comics professionals of all stripes, but potentially comic dealers like myself who will never have anything to do with someone who comes off like they're practically unhinged and takes an allegation of questionable business practices as a springboard to act like a lunatic.

I'm not a plebe or an acolyte. I'm a dealer of golden, silver and modern comics. But you're making it absolutely clear that when I pick five or six cons to do every year, the MMC won't be one of them. And avoid the insults if I were you. I know most of the national comic dealers, very well. And some have already grumbled to me about you.

Take this as helpful advice, put the keyboard down, get your affairs in order, and work to restore your reputation. People who know me, know that I wouldn't give that advice if I didn't mean it.


Thank you. Well said.

Gail

[orcafresh]

Rick,

I'm not a plebe or an acolyte. I'm a dealer of golden, silver and modern comics. But you're making it absolutely clear that when I pick five or six cons to do every year, the MMC won't be one of them. And avoid the insults if I were you. I know most of the national comic dealers, very well. And some have already grumbled to me about you.

Take this as helpful advice, put the keyboard down, get your affairs in order, and work to restore your reputation. People who know me, know that I wouldn't give that advice if I didn't mean it.

Thanks, Ray. I recall you from MegaCon and via Koop. Hmm... grumbling national comics dealers? Hmmm... curious. I'm only buying presently from two, and I didn't think they came here. lol

Anyway, thank you counselor! I was hoping to see "Gail" pull off her Ralph Edwards impersonation though, first...

"Gail"...

[EdContradictory]

He's a lost cause Ed. I think even Archie would be disgusted by him.
It's fascinating that in his moment of desperation here, that his attack turns towards sexuality.

It's also very telling.

Because Rick is a big homosexual.

Who enjoys playing with male sex organs.

If you know what I mean.

[Evan Waters]

We get it. When you say something idiotic and only you laugh, you're kidding.

Dude, you suck. Give up writing as an aspiration. You'd be a fabulous...uh...

...whatever job requires you to be a lying deadbeat.

Gail

Music industry executive?

I think I'll stop there. DAILY SHOW's gonna be on in a little bit.

[orcafresh]

It's fascinating that in his moment of desperation here, that his attack turns towards sexuality.

It's also very telling.

Because Rick is a big homosexual.

Who enjoys playing with male sex organs.

If you know what I mean.

You're a very sick puppy, Ed. :rolleyes:

[kmeyers]

Why won't you address the people who have serious issues with you? Like Ronee, or Gail's flight payment question? Is it because you're a coward, or because you're a liar?

I bet this gets no answer.





....step up.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Thanks, Ray. I recall you from MegaCon and via Koop. Hmm... grumbling national comics dealers? Hmmm... curious. I'm only buying presently from two, and I didn't think they came here. lol

Anyway, thank you counselor! I was hoping to see "Gail" pull off her Ralph Edwards impersonation though, first...

"Gail"...


Seriously. RUN TOWARDS THE LIGHT. Please.

[THEDOC]

It's fascinating that in his moment of desperation here, that his attack turns towards sexuality.

It's also very telling.

Because Rick is a big homosexual.

Who enjoys playing with male sex organs.

If you know what I mean.

I think you may have insulted the gay community inadvertenly. The gay friends I have as tolerant as they are would not accept "Rick".

[EdContradictory]

You're a very sick puppy, Ed. :rolleyes:
Nothing wrong with being gay, Rick.

It's fine.

We accept you as a gay man.

You just need to learn to accept yourself.

[Cam63]

Why, yes... I am a cancer. Born in June, infact. Geez, jailbird qualities and you follow people's stars too. You're gonna make some bubba a nice mate someday, Mac.

Mac is no where near your level.

He's human to boot.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Thanks, Ray. I recall you from MegaCon and via Koop. Hmm... grumbling national comics dealers? Hmmm... curious. I'm only buying presently from two, and I didn't think they came here. lol

Anyway, thank you counselor! I was hoping to see "Gail" pull off her Ralph Edwards impersonation though, first...

"Gail"...

So it took a retailer like Ray to tell you something I posted awhile back there and you got angry about ? See how actions can hurt you by now ?

[orcafresh]

Thank you. Well said.

Gail

Yeah, right. I'm sure he did that for you.

[Gail Simone]

I think the saddest, funniest thing is...while Rick is here pretending he's a big wheel in the industry who is going to ruin our sales figures (snork...! If everyone he's cheated bought one of our books, sales would skyrocket!) his own websites are...

...barren as hell.

I mean no one, no one defending him, no one saying a nice thing about him. His myspace page has NO ONE posting, NO ONE's posted at the Mini con myspace page, and the funniest and saddest of all is his Tightlip page, where these hotly-anticipated books that people are dying to buy because our favorite deadbeat hack was involved...


...only spambots post there. Honestly, nothing but spambots.

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so...nah, it's just hilarious.

Gail

[Cully Hamner]

It's fascinating that in his moment of desperation here, that his attack turns towards sexuality.

It's also very telling.

Because Rick is a big homosexual.

Who enjoys playing with male sex organs.

If you know what I mean.

New nickname: "Dicks Onley."

[EdContradictory]

I think you may have insulted the gay community inadvertenly. The gay friends I have as tolerant as they are would not accept "Rick".

See... I bet you probably think Rick's favorite part of other guys' penises is the shaft.

But I bet you're wrong.

I bet he's a "ball man".

Rick, am I right or is THEDOC right?

[orcafresh]

So it took a retailer like Ray to tell you something I posted awhile back there and you got angry about ? See how actions can hurt you by now ?

Difference is, and don't take this personally, by no means... but I respect Ray's opinion. He's good people. You... I really don't know.

[orcafresh]

New nickname: "Dicks Onley."

Sad when a talented young guy goes off the deep end, isn't it? :D

[THEDOC]

See... I bet you probably think Rick's favorite part of other guys' penises is the shaft.

But I bet you're wrong.

I bet he's a "ball man".

Rick, am I right or is THEDOC right?

We won't get a "straight" answer from him, Ed.

[Gail Simone]

Spambots.

Guess you can only hold someone's attention when they're stuck at the worst con going, huh?

Gail

[Cam63]

You know what, after seeing him post that shit to Joanne, I'm thinking of the first ever real Yabs ban.

He can't even keep his own moronic lies straight, and at this point, we've seen his measure, and it's about as low as you can get.

The fact that no one, and I mean NO ONE, is defending him should say all you need to know. When he started trashing Val Staples and Chuck Dixon, people couldn't be held BACK from defending their reps and integrity, despite the threat of Rick's muppet lawyer. That's because they have REAL friends, and have earned their reps for integrity.


But no one sticks up for Reeky Rick, not here, not on myspace, not anywhere.

I think it may be time to cut the idiot free. I don't care what he says about me, not in the slightest. But calling a woman a douche bag and a sick bitch, and posting his threatening lunacy...

I don't know. What do you guys think? I wouldn't miss him. His entertainment value is fast drying up, and he's never going to pay the people he owes...


Maybe a vote. :)

Gail

It's your call, Gail.

[EdContradictory]

I mean no one, no one defending him, no one saying a nice thing about him. His myspace page has NO ONE posting, NO ONE's posted at the Mini con myspace page, and the funniest and saddest of all is his Tightlip page, where these hotly-anticipated books that people are dying to buy because our favorite deadbeat hack was involved...


...only spambots post there. Honestly, nothing but spambots.

Looks like he shut down that forum.

Hiding another failure from public view.

[Scott Shaw!]

Tony, there are other people that benefit from your buzz of being listed with Scott, Kurt, and Mark. You called the only work I ever had the good chance of having published a "gem" in No Justice, No Piece #2 back in the 90s (I personally had the honor of handing you the comp at Wizard World Chicago). As your profile increases, so will my sense of self-worth. :D

I think the main thing that Tony, Kurt, Mark and I have in common is that we all know the original source of my earlier "Baldo Smudge" reference...

Aloha,

Scott!

[Chris N]

Thanks, Ray. I recall you from MegaCon and via Koop. Hmm... grumbling national comics dealers? Hmmm... curious. I'm only buying presently from two, and I didn't think they came here. lol

Anyway, thank you counselor! I was hoping to see "Gail" pull off her Ralph Edwards impersonation though, first...

"Gail"...

Ray was actually being polite to you and giving you well-meant advice. You could have politely thanked him for his advice even if you didn't care to give it heed. You could have also just ignored him. Why come back with sarcasm. Who are you helping? Did he need to be attacked? Does everybody? Look, nobody on this thread is going to say anything nice to you. This is clear. If you're here, you may as well answer legitimate questions. If you just want to see who insults you and come back with increasingly uninspired and sexist or homophobic quips... why? I just don't understand. No, maybe I do understand. Either you need mental therapy and you have no sense of how evil you're being to people, or you are completely aware of all that you say and do. In which case, I pity you more.

[THEDOC]

I think the saddest, funniest thing is...while Rick is here pretending he's a big wheel in the industry who is going to ruin our sales figures (snork...! If everyone he's cheated bought one of our books, sales would skyrocket!) his own websites are...

...barren as hell.

I mean no one, no one defending him, no one saying a nice thing about him. His myspace page has NO ONE posting, NO ONE's posted at the Mini con myspace page, and the funniest and saddest of all is his Tightlip page, where these hotly-anticipated books that people are dying to buy because our favorite deadbeat hack was involved...


...only spambots post there. Honestly, nothing but spambots.

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so...nah, it's just hilarious.

Gail

That's because he banned all the members.

[OzBat!]

Yeah, right. I'm sure he did that for you.A very simple search of this forum shows that Ray Rivard had posted on YABS exactly TWICE, including that post. You're not doing yourself any favours with stupid claims like that.

[Cully Hamner]

Sad when a talented young guy goes off the deep end, isn't it? :D

Know a lot about deep ends, do you, Rick?

[Matt Doc Martin]

I think the saddest, funniest thing is...while Rick is here pretending he's a big wheel in the industry who is going to ruin our sales figures (snork...! If everyone he's cheated bought one of our books, sales would skyrocket!) his own websites are...

...barren as hell.

I mean no one, no one defending him, no one saying a nice thing about him. His myspace page has NO ONE posting, NO ONE's posted at the Mini con myspace page, and the funniest and saddest of all is his Tightlip page, where these hotly-anticipated books that people are dying to buy because our favorite deadbeat hack was involved...


...only spambots post there. Honestly, nothing but spambots.

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so...nah, it's just hilarious.

Gail


STOP LOOKING BEHIND THE CURTAIN AT THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ!

Look, we all know he is a pathetic jackass.

Can't we give him a break?





I'm just fucking with you all.

Let's get this asshole.

[Gail Simone]

Difference is, and don't take this personally, by no means... but I respect Ray's opinion. He's good people. You... I really don't know.

The people you cheated take it personally.

You promised them payment, you haven't paid, and you laugh about paying for a lawyer (bullshit) and new artists (probably bullshit) while leaving them unpaid, even those that signed your ridiculous NDA.

Why DON'T you take your reputation as a businessman personally?

Gail

[EdContradictory]

Maybe a vote.
Don't ban him.

Interest in him and this thread will eventually dry up and go away.

No need to change your standards for him.

[Cam63]

As a mod you can ban him from just this forum. I know that because Paper Girl, you know back when she was posting:( threatened to do that to Red Berens back when he was posting.:(

That may've been a joke.

[kmeyers]

Sad when a talented young guy goes off the deep end, isn't it? :D

I honestly don't see how this kind of hurtful dialogue can benefit your career.

At all.

[TonyIsabella]

I think the main thing that Tony, Kurt, Mark and I have in common is that we all know the original source of my earlier "Baldo Smudge" reference...

Aloha,

Scott!

I think the last line is something like:

*choke* It's inked in blood!

Tony

[Matt Doc Martin]

We won't get a "straight" answer from him, Ed.

*applauds*

[Gail Simone]

I think the main thing that Tony, Kurt, Mark and I have in common is that we all know the original source of my earlier "Baldo Smudge" reference...

Aloha,

Scott!

Dude, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Just let me finish these panel borders and we'll talk.

Gail

[orcafresh]

We won't get a "straight" answer from him, Ed.

You two work well together. Maybe Ed would team up with you, Lance. You could introduce him to IF and maybe he could give you classes on how to be a libel minded asshole.

Okay.

Looks like "Gail" Ralph Edwards won't pull the curtain back to expose or introduce my supposid "best" friend of those actual few ... I kind of figure that was a ploy ... but it is getting late. Did we actually top the 250 page marker before midnight?

Thanks again for the advice, Mr. Rivard! I'll probably take it. This thread looks to be a record for CBR not to be soon broken. You kids play nice while my back is turned!

[THEDOC]

You two work well together. Maybe Ed would team up with you, Lance. You could introduce him to IF and maybe he could give you classes on how to be a libel minded asshole.

Okay.

Looks like "Gail" Ralph Edwards won't pull the curtain back to expose or introduce my supposid "best" friend of those actual few ... I kind of figure that was a ploy ... but it is getting late. Did we actually top the 250 page marker before midnight?

Thanks again for the advice, Mr. Rivard! I'll probably take it. This thread looks to be a record for CBR not to be soon broken. You kids play nice while my back is turned!

Don't need classes for that though I am a moderate asshole!

[OzBat!]

Thanks again for the advice, Mr. Rivard! I'll probably take it. This thread looks to be a record for CBR not to be soon broken. You kids play nice while my back is turned!For the attention-deficit-impaired, for the third time today: not even close.

[TCJohnson]

"Gail" ... careful not to break your arm patting yourself so strenuously. lol

I have to agree with this one, Gail. Making Mr. Olney go bat-crazy bonkers is about a big of an accomplishment as dumpinb a bucket of water in the ocean and declaring it's wet. You just can't much crazier.

[EdContradictory]

You two work well together. Maybe Ed would team up with you, Lance. You could introduce him to IF and maybe he could give you classes on how to be a libel minded asshole.

So, it's not libel when you call someone a homosexual, but it is when someone else calls you one.

Got it.

Unless you mistyped "liberal minded asshole". I which case, you got me.

But remember, as a liberal, I fully support your right to marry and have as much hot wet gay sex as you want Rick! And we all know you want a lot!

[Wil Radcliffe]

Don't ban him.

Interest in him and this thread will eventually dry up and go away.

No need to change your standards for him.

Not to change the subject, Ed, but what is up with your avatar? Is that Smeagle's head on a Wookie?

Freakin' me out, man!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Difference is, and don't take this personally, by no means... but I respect Ray's opinion. He's good people. You... I really don't know.

Heres the thing everyone on this thread could tell you , I haven't insulted you or threatened you. I posted that your reputation online could have effects with the negative PR. It wasn't a slam...it was meant to be a serious approach to show you how many could read this thread online and tell people " offline " as well.

As , Ray posted you need to clear things up. If your company is ever gonna make it , having this issue over your head will be a tough one to hold back.

[Matt Doc Martin]

For the attention-deficit-impaired, for the third time today: not even close.

He is such a dipshit.

[EdContradictory]

Not to change the subject, Ed, but what is up with your avatar? Is that Smeagle's head on a Wookie?

Freakin' me out, man!
By all means change the subject.

It's Gollum dressed as Chewbacca.

It's clearer in the larger version I can use on other forums.

http://yourmomsbasement.com/images/EdAvatar/GollumBacca.jpg

[Cam63]

Hell no, you'd rot my teeth!

...and did you just try to insult me by calling me British? That's... dumb.

You shouldn't expect too much from him.

[Matt Doc Martin]

So, it's not libel when you call someone a homosexual, but it is when someone else calls you one.

Got it.

Unless you mistyped "liberal minded asshole". I which case, you got me.

But remember, as a liberal, I fully support your right to marry and have as much hot wet gay sex as you want Rick! And we all know you want a lot!

And with that, I am going to bed. Damn, but that is funny.

[Wil Radcliffe]

By all means change the subject.

It's Gollum dressed as Chewbacca.

It's clearer in the larger version I can use on other forums.

http://yourmomsbasement.com/images/EdAvatar/GollumBacca.jpg

Man, could you imagine such a creature? Smeagle's demented intellect married with Chewbacca's raw power!

[Cam63]

This is like grade school lunch room bullies... on crack!!!

Why not go trip the guy, then kick him while he is down and rub the mashed potatoes in his face? Just take a number and be patient... since there are 200+ pages full of people here and elsewhere, busy taking shots at the guy. More than 200 against one... yeah, that's a fair fight.

I never heard of the guy until this soap opera starting spilling onto other message boards on the net. Clearly he has done stuff to warrant this reaction-- but if he is sooooo bad... why so many folks I have so much respect for are stooping down to this level makes me pause. Why is it so important to prove the guy wrong, when the writing is already on the wall-- and crystal clear?

Congratulations one and all...
it's really brave to take shots at someone who is being held down by the sheer volume of the righteous. Mob mentality is not a pretty sight.

There are NO saints here.

I strongly disagree with you.

[Scott Shaw!]

Gail, you make me laugh out loud! The only reason I didn't include you in our fiendish cabal is that I though you were too YOUNG to know about ol' Baldo Smudge, border-ruler extraordinaire! (Is it true his middle name was "Olney"?)

Tony, I'm sure you got it right. I think it was Archie's only story for that publisher that didn't end with the line, "...You see, I'm NOT a vampire...I'm a...WEREWOLF!"

Aloha,

Scott!

P.S.: See you guys at the next Illuminati meeting! BYOB! -- SS!

[Lester C.]

That may've been a joke.

It was a joke. The master started a thread about ninjas in her Vertigo modded forum. Sorry I wasn't clear about that.

[Cam63]

As much as I'd like to see the fucker gone, don't ban him. Don't break your no ban policy for this waste of oxygen.

Let Cronin do it. :D

Ohhhhh, Briannnn....

[Cam63]

It was a joke. The master started a thread about ninjas in her Vertigo modded forum. Sorry I wasn't clear about that.

Get your shit together, lawyer wannabe !

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Gail, you make me laugh out loud! The only reason I didn't include you in our fiendish cabal is that I though you were too YOUNG to know about ol' Baldo Smudge, border-ruler extraordinaire! (Is it true his middle name was "Olney"?)

Tony, I'm sure you got it right. I think it was Archie's only story for that publisher that didn't end with the line, "...You see, I'm NOT a vampire...I'm a...WEREWOLF!"

Aloha,

Scott!

P.S.: See you guys at the next Illuminati meeting! BYOB! -- SS!






Note to self: Bring steelchair and jump one of the Legends. By removing them I can take their spot !















:p

[Lester C.]

Get your shit together, lawyer wannabe !

But I don't have my gloves on!:mad: :eek: I'm not touching it with my bare hands.

[Gail Simone]

Gail, you make me laugh out loud! The only reason I didn't include you in our fiendish cabal is that I though you were too YOUNG to know about ol' Baldo Smudge, border-ruler extraordinaire! (Is it true his middle name was "Olney"?)

Tony, I'm sure you got it right. I think it was Archie's only story for that publisher that didn't end with the line, "...You see, I'm NOT a vampire...I'm a...WEREWOLF!"

Aloha,

Scott!

P.S.: See you guys at the next Illuminati meeting! BYOB! -- SS!


I AM!

I read it in a hardback collection!

:)

Gail

[THEDOC]

Note to self: Bring steelchair and jump one of the Legends. By removing them I can take their spot !
:p

OHHHHHHHHHHH YEAH!!!! :D

[kingdom2000]

So how many creators are left that haven't come forward about how they where olneyed? No one likes being olneyed but at least some of em know they where not alone in the olneying. Based on google search anyway, next time someone looks into Olney, they will learn about the frequent olneying that Olney does and therefore can avoid getting olneyed themselves.

[Gail Simone]

For the attention-deficit-impaired, for the third time today: not even close.

Shit, we've had longer threads than this many times.

What a weirdo, who is proud of being a big enough weasel that the whole industry hates him.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

From Ronee's thread:

Ronee, it's sad to think that this man continues to sham creators, and talented one's at that, into sinking their time, talent, and reputation into a failing project. I was with Rick on the ground floor of this, and after a relatively short time (less then a year), I was able to see that he had absolutely no intention of honoring his part of the bargain. (No money, just promises). He's got more stories then the Empire State Building about why he can't pay, or that it was sent but lost, or that he's fired (yet again) a cheating CPA for not handling his finances correctly. I think the term mentally fatigued, and morally bankrupt, as far as his business dealing's are concerned, is apt.

I for one, and glad to see he's getting the public roasting that he is. If it keeps just one more creator away from Olney's brand of 'bringing someone onboard'... then it's all worth it. Flunkie's such as Rick need to be exposed, and left hanging out to dry.

Posted by Jim Taylor, on 01/08/2007 at 22:56


OUCH.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

Cam,

Personally favor please.

WIth the way he keeps digging at this hole he is in, he should be in your neck of the woods soon. When you send him back, just make sure there is enough of him to stand trial.

[Gerry Alanguilan]

As well as a Comic Industry version of the Better Business Bureau, where creators could research publishers, real and imaginary, before agreeing to work with them.

In the absence of one such bureau at the moment, the World Wide Web has been very useful in helping me determine if I would want to work someone or not. Anybody aspiring or even established creators stumbling on to this forum would without a doubt be certain who not to work with.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

OHHHHHHHHHHH YEAH!!!! :D

Yeahh....I'll be like Randy Orton. I'll be a LEGEND KILLER.

I'll have a special t-shirt made with each name made and who I took out at each Convention ! No one will stop me. I am a DIAMOND IN THIS BUSINESS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2aGbbbr5bI

[Gail Simone]

I would like to say that, as irritating as it can be to see how low a 'man' like Rick Olney can sink, it's also pretty cool to see so many of you know right from wrong and are willing to stick up for the people Rick has cheated like this. Quite a few people did not have that gumption, for whatever reason.

As always, I'm proud to call you people friends, and that's the truth of it. Any one of you is worth a thousand nobody hack wannabees like R.O. and I think deep down, even HE knows that.

Gail

[Lester C.]

Yeahh....I'll be like Randy Orton. I'll be a LEGEND KILLER.

I'll have a special t-shirt made with each name made and who I took out at each Convention ! No one will stop me. I am a DIAMOND IN THIS BUSINESS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2aGbbbr5bI

The only thing better than Randy is Edge. I really love thier tag team even though I would prefer both of them to be single main eventers.

[Gail Simone]

And just because I'm proud of her for sticking up for herself and others, here's Ronee's column again.

This is a TLE insider, who knows Rick's crappy behavior and cheating firsthand.

http://michaelnetzer.com/wagw/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1


Well worth reading.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

I would like to say that, as irritating as it can be to see how low a 'man' like Rick Olney can sink, it's also pretty cool to see so many of you know right from wrong and are willing to stick up for the people Rick has cheated like this.


THe wrong shoe goes on the left foot, right? Always get that confused.

[Cam63]

Okay! it's taken me an hour and a half to read the 15 or so pages that have appeared since my last night. I've woken up to a shitstorm, reported posts, and the supermods asking questions about this thread.

Before I get to the important stuff, here's a couple of thread facts:

1. This aint the biggest thread on CBR. Far from it. There's several threads already on YABS alone that have passed 5000 posts, and others on the Community board, Rumbles, etc.

2. We have a policy of locking threads and starting new ones for the same subject when they reach 5000 posts, but that's only from a historical viewpoint as CBR used to go buggy when the database had problems handling more than 5000 posts in a thread. That aint the case anymore.

Sorry Mr Olney, but your personal effect on the servers and message boards functionality here at CBR is still NIL.

3. The double postings and server lockups are not related to this thread. Jonah's got his webmunkies looking at the problem, it might be related to some blogs on the same server... he's said he'll be moving those, so hopefully we'll see some changes to the page reloads soon.

Okay, the important stuff! I've got reported posts. Oh yesssss indeedy! Good fun! And Supermods asking me if we should be banning one Mr Richard Olney. I'm inclined to agree, for his constant character smearing with sexually-related innuendo and graphic (pictorial) threats. On the other hand, it's plainly pathetic, but useful in a court of law. HOWEVER!! I do not want anybody on the board's opinion on whether we do or not. We don't need another 10 pages of posts arguing the merits of it or not. This is gail's board, her decision is final. Just be aware that gail didn't ask for it, the supermods have stepped in due to reported posts.

IF we ban him, we're more than capable of doing an IP ban, so he won't be able to step around that using different user names.

And that concludes my daily moderatorial duties. Thankyou!

I like that Aussie.

[Cam63]

Cam,

Personally favor please.

WIth the way he keeps digging at this hole he is in, he should be in your neck of the woods soon. When you send him back, just make sure there is enough of him to stand trial.

I can't promise what the cats return will be in any working order.

Then there's the funnelweb jar.

[Lester C.]

I like that Aussie.

All the Aussies on CBR are cool. Even the ones that don't post on yabs.

[Gail Simone]

In the absence of one such bureau at the moment, the World Wide Web has been very useful in helping me determine if I would want to work someone or not. Anybody aspiring or even established creators stumbling on to this forum would without a doubt be certain who not to work with.

I went to your site and I am sorry to say I was unfamiliar with your work.

Holy pete, you're gifted!

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

All the Aussies on CBR are cool. Even the ones that don't post on yabs.

I want to be an honorary aussie.

Even though my heritage is Mick and Scot.

[Cully Hamner]

I've had enough for the night, so I'm heading home. You guys all rock!

No, that doesn't include you, Reek.

[Paul D. Storrie]

Scott, you are one of the "professionals" I'm talking about. Too long living off the comic book entertainment industry. Your fat ass propped up by your friends, blocking the way for much younger talents to make their way up. You, Isabella, Waid, Busiek... you're all old news. At least "Gail" serves a purpose. She's an honest-to-goodness token. You're just a crumb catcher, mister. :(

Even if Scott, Tony, Mark and Kurt were old news, they would at least have the satisfaction of having been news. You, on the other hand, aren't news and won't ever be news.

Enjoy whatever notoriety you achieve from your unprincipled business practices and heaping insults on professionals who have contributed to the industry and the artform. It's all you'll ever have.

Ah, well. If you can't be famous, at least you can be infamous for a short time.

PDS

[Cam63]

Christ, is that even English?

You ought to take your English teachers and beat the shit out of them, Rick. They did you no favors.

Gail

Don't blame the teachers ! They were trying to make velvet from a dirty spud sack, for beers sake !

[Lester C.]

I want to be an honorary aussie.

Even though my heritage is Mick and Scot.

The best I can do is make you an honorary Assyrian. We haven’t had an empire since 600 BC and there are less than three million of us so we can't offer you much in the way of anything but the dolma is delicious.

[Cam63]

I've had enough for the night, so I'm heading home. You guys all rock!

No, that doesn't include you, Reek.

Have a good one, Ham'.

[Gail Simone]

I've had enough for the night, so I'm heading home. You guys all rock!

No, that doesn't include you, Reek.

Cully, you're a gem.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

That avatar of Rick's...why is it we don't have one that says, "The least talented man in comics?"

:)

Gail

[Les McClaine]

Upon reading this entire thread:

Ow, my faith in humanity.

[Mark Waid]

I went to your site and I am sorry to say I was unfamiliar with your work.

Holy pete, you're gifted!

Gail

Gerry was our inker on SUPERMAN: BIRTHRIGHT, and all his work is terrific, innit? And I am in awe of his knowledge of the history of his country's graphic art heritage. Gerry's one of the good guys, as far as I'm concerned.

[howyadoin]

I like that Aussie.He smells kinda funky, though.

Holy pete, you're gifted!Language!

[T Sterling]

This guy is unbelievable. I’ve been lurking in morbid fascination for over a month now, both here and at Chuck Dixon’s board and am ever more stunned by the gall and stupidity of this “person.” He really does seem to relish the attention, though, and obviously does not grasp or care about the damage to his reputation [EDIT: Thought I should add (though it goes without saying) that he does not care about the damage done to others]. It seems that the only way justice of any kind will be done is in court.

I am a lawyer, and would like to offer the following brief bits of information (some previously set out in a different format at Mr. Dixon’s board) if only to save various people – perhaps only the incredibly generous Mr. Waid – a few dollars and headaches:

1. Don’t sweat the B.S. NDA. There are a multitude of reasons why these spurious NDAs would be completely unenforceable and meaningless. I won’t recite them all, except for the most obvious. The law does indeed follow the sensible conclusion that many people have already reached: failure to pay for previously rendered performance of services is a clear breach of contract, and no NDA can prevent legal action for same. Contract law term is ‘failure of consideration’.

2. Don’t spend more than you’re suing for. Small claims court is, in most places, intended to be for the unrepresented litigant. These are not complicated claims, so you don’t need a lawyer. You just need to tell your story clearly and concisely.

3. Keep your temper. If Mr. Olney should actually appear in court, which strikes me as unlikely, don’t rise to the bait. If he is remotely like his cyber-persona, his ramblings will give the judge all the evidence you need. Keep your cool, state your facts, refute the lies. Don’t roll your eyes, jump up and yell, or interrupt. Believe me, the Judge will like you more and listen to you with greater respect.

4. Be relevant / Keep it short. Again – concise and clear. Don’t think the judge is going to read this entire thread, or even short extracts that show what a loon and @$$hole this guy is. State the facts relevant only to your claim. You’re suing for non-payment by him for services rendered by you. There is nothing illegal about his being a prick, and no compensation you are entitled to for it. The journalistic 5 Ws should help give you a framework.

5. Necessary Expenses – part A. One claim each. Without going into a lengthy discourse, this is almost certainly not suited for a Class Action. Every individual creator will have to sue individually, spending at least the following:

(a) There will be a filing fee. If you win, the filing fee will form part of the judgment, but remember that the judgment could be uncollectible.
(b) Registered mail or process server. Since Mr. Olney will almost certainly be a no show, you will have to prove that he was notified of the claim in order to get default judgment against him.

6. Necessary Expenses– part B. Shared Expenses. There is one expense that could be incurred once and shared for the benefit of all. A really good thing to spend money on would be a “corporate search” in New York State for “Tightlip Entertainment.” (Yellow pages should turn up a local registry office to perform the search). If TightLip turns out to have actual corporate existence, it will turn up on the search and you should sue in PRECISELY the name that appears on the public register and serve the claim at the exact registered address shown. As a bonus, it will likely give you Olney’s address for service as corporate officer / director. Regardless, you should name Olney personally. TightLip Entertainment is, in all likelihood, simple a trade-name (or "pseudonym") for Rick Olney.

7. Where to Sue. You are probably wasting your time and money if you sue anywhere but the debtor’s home jurisdiction. Not saying you can’t, but unless the sums involved are starting at four figures, it’s probably not worth it. Interstate conflict of laws and enforcement of judgments get way more complicated than a the relatively simple New York Plaintiff vs. New York Defendants with New York assets.

8. Who to Sue. Sue both TightLip Entertainment and Richard Olney. Likely, this amounts to the same thing (see above), but if Olney actually went to the time, trouble and expense of incorporating, the judge might find that the contract is actually with the corporation and not with Olney personally. So if you have only sued Olney, you could lose simply for naming the wrong “person” in your suit. Again, sue both "people", just to be safe.

9. What to Sue For: This is not a pedantic point. Perhaps you can get your artwork / script / characters / web design back and a declaration that Olney has no rights to any of the creations involved. This could be better than a money judgment. Most jurisdictions allow you to make alternative claims and then elect in court which one you would prefer.

10. Collecting on the Judgment: This is probably the hardest part. Unfortunately, I will have to be a bit of a cop-out here and say that you will probably need to hire a professional for this. Often, the costs of collection can be added to the judgment, though.

Hope some of this is helpful to somebody. Maybe it won’t shut him up, but it could certainly set him back (or shut him down).

Regards,

“T Sterling”, a pseudonym clearly devised to defraud "Human Beings" like Rick Olney.

[Lester C.]

Gerry was our inker on SUPERMAN: BIRTHRIGHT, and all his work is terrific, innit? And I am in awe of his knowledge of the history of his country's graphic art heritage. Gerry's one of the good guys, as far as I'm concerned.

This may not be appropriate in this thread Mark but birthright holds a special place for me as a fan and is one of the few Superman trades I return to time and time again.

[Cam63]

I want to be an honorary aussie.

Even though my heritage is Mick and Scot.

Didn't stop me from being one.

Just fill out a few forms, wrestle a 20 foot long croc ( or white pointer ), hold your hand in a pickle jar of funnelwebs while reciting The Man From Snowy River and beer gargle the National Anthem.

Then there's the hard stuff.

[Cam63]

He smells kinda funky, though.

Well, Oz' is a Canberran. Don't hold that against him. :)

[Gail Simone]

This guy is unbelievable. I’ve been lurking in morbid fascination for over a month now, both here and at Chuck Dixon’s board and am ever more stunned by the gall and stupidity of this “person.” He really does seem to relish the attention, though, and obviously does not grasp or care about the damage to his reputation. It seems that the only way justice of any kind will be done is in court.

I am a lawyer, and would like to offer the following brief bits of information (some previously set out in a different format at Mr. Dixon’s board) if only to save various people – perhaps only the incredibly generous Mr. Waid – a few dollars and headaches:

1. Don’t sweat the B.S. NDA. There are a multitude of reasons why these spurious NDAs would be completely unenforceable and meaningless. I won’t recite them all, except for the most obvious. The law does indeed follow the sensible conclusion that many people have already reached: failure to pay for previously rendered performance of services is a clear breach of contract, and no NDA can prevent legal action for same. Contract law term is ‘failure of consideration’.

2. Don’t spend more than you’re suing for. Small claims court is, in most places, intended to be for the unrepresented litigant. These are not complicated claims, so you don’t need a lawyer. You just need to tell your story clearly and concisely.

3. Keep your temper. If Mr. Olney should actually appear in court, which strikes me as unlikely, don’t rise to the bait. If he is remotely like his cyber-persona, his ramblings will give the judge all the evidence you need. Keep your cool, state your facts, refute the lies. Don’t roll your eyes, jump up and yell, or interrupt. Believe me, the Judge will like you more and listen to you with greater respect.

4. Be relevant / Keep it short. Again – concise and clear. Don’t think the judge is going to read this entire thread, or even short extracts that show what a loon and @$$hole this guy is. State the facts relevant only to your claim. You’re suing for non-payment by him for services rendered by you. There is nothing illegal about his being a prick, and no compensation you are entitled to for it. The journalistic 5 Ws should help give you a framework.

5. Necessary Expenses – part A. One claim each. Without going into a lengthy discourse, this is almost certainly not suited for a Class Action. Every individual creator will have to sue individually, spending at least the following:

(a) There will be a filing fee. If you win, the filing fee will form part of the judgment, but remember that the judgment could be uncollectible.
(b) Registered mail or process server. Since Mr. Olney will almost certainly be a no show, you will have to prove that he was notified of the claim in order to get default judgment against him.

6. Necessary Expenses– part B. Shared Expenses. There is one expense that could be incurred once and shared for the benefit of all. A really good thing to spend money on would be a “corporate search” in New York State for “Tightlip Entertainment.” (Yellow pages should turn up a local registry office to perform the search). If TightLip turns out to have actual corporate existence, it will turn up on the search and you should sue in PRECISELY the name that appears on the public register and serve the claim at the exact registered address shown. As a bonus, it will likely give you Olney’s address for service as corporate officer / director. Regardless, you should name Olney personally. TightLip Entertainment is, in all likelihood, simple a trade-name (or "pseudonym") for Rick Olney.

7. Where to Sue. You are probably wasting your time and money if you sue anywhere but the debtor’s home jurisdiction. Not saying you can’t, but unless the sums involved are starting at four figures, it’s probably not worth it. Interstate conflict of laws and enforcement of judgments get way more complicated than a the relatively simple New York Plaintiff vs. New York Defendants with New York assets.

8. Who to Sue. Sue both TightLip Entertainment and Richard Olney. Likely, this amounts to the same thing (see above), but if Olney actually went to the time, trouble and expense of incorporating, the judge might find that the contract is actually with the corporation and not with Olney personally. So if you have only sued Olney, you could lose simply for naming the wrong “person” in your suit. Again, sue both "people", just to be safe.

9. What to Sue For: This is not a pedantic point. Perhaps you can get your artwork / script / characters / web design back and a declaration that Olney has no rights to any of the creations involved. This could be better than a money judgment. Most jurisdictions allow you to make alternative claims and then elect in court which one you would prefer.

10. Collecting on the Judgment: This is probably the hardest part. Unfortunately, I will have to be a bit of a cop-out here and say that you will probably need to hire a professional for this. Often, the costs of collection can be added to the judgment, though.

Hope some of this is helpful to somebody. Maybe it won’t shut him up, but it could certainly set him back (or shut him down).

Regards,

“T Sterling”, a pseudonym clearly devised to defraud "Human Beings" like Rick Olney.



This is matching what we're all hearing from our own advisors, but no one has put it so simply and concisely (or as completely!) as this.

Thanks, T. Very very helpful.

I've been informed of the total amount owed by Tightlip and it's considerable. I hope the penalties imposed are serious enough that he can't do this ever again.

Gail

[Cam63]

That avatar of Rick's...why is it we don't have one that says, "The least talented man in comics?"

:)

Gail

Oh, he's talented alright.

[Gail Simone]

Upon reading this entire thread:

Ow, my faith in humanity.

Welcome, Portlander.

And there's a lot here to restore faith, if you're looking.

Best,

Gail

[kmeyers]

So, the key to making him disappear is to call him on specific shit!

[Gail Simone]

So, the key to making him disappear is to call him on specific shit!

Heh. He does tend to duck and cover, doesn't he?

Well done for keeping on point.

Gail

[Cam63]

This is matching what we're all hearing from our own advisors, but no one has put it so simply and concisely (or as completely!) as this.

Thanks, T. Very very helpful.

I've been informed of the total amount owed by Tightlip and it's considerable. I hope the penalties imposed are serious enough that he can't do this ever again.

Gail

I hope his Gunny catches up with him and takes him back to boot camp.

[Wil Radcliffe]

In the absence of one such bureau at the moment, the World Wide Web has been very useful in helping me determine if I would want to work someone or not. Anybody aspiring or even established creators stumbling on to this forum would without a doubt be certain who not to work with.

When I'm looking for reputable magazine and book publishers as well as agents, I use this (http://www.anotherealm.com/prededitors/) site. It's absolutely priceless for sorting out the gems from the jerks! Maybe someone could e-mail them about including a section for comic book publishers?

[Les McClaine]

Welcome, Portlander.

And there's a lot here to restore faith, if you're looking.

Best,

Gail
Right, I'm mostly just tearing my hair out at Olney's behavior. It is supremely frustrating to me that he just doesn't seem to get what's going on here. I've been sort of following his internet shenanigans since '00 or so and I'm happy it looks like something might finally get done about it. I suppose everyone else throwing in together balances out the whole faith in humanity thing.

[Cam63]

Right, I'm mostly just tearing my hair out at Olney's behavior. It is supremely frustrating to me that he just doesn't seem to get what's going on here. I've been sort of following his internet shenanigans since '00 or so and I'm happy it looks like something might finally get done about it. I suppose everyone else throwing in together balances out the whole faith in humanity thing.

We all appreciate that, Les.

Thanks for posting.

[TCJohnson]

Nobody is probably going to collect money from Mr. Olney. he is either too poor. IF he is rich, he would probably just take all his money and leave the country so he can claim to be a patriot from South America and never see his wife and kids again (what? You really think he wouldn't sink that low?)

But I hope people sue him not for the money. He thinks this is a game. It's not, and I want him to know his actions, all his actions from the cheating to the threats, has consequences.

[Cam63]

Who do I make the check out to?

Cam63, Australia.

[Cam63]

I know! It's she great!

Can we keep her?

Then let her go...
If she returns, she's ours...
If not, she never was...

[Cam63]

She's genderless here. You fall at her feet and worship her. I won't!:rolleyes:

Huh ?
........

[Sarah Beach]

So, the key to making him disappear is to call him on specific shit!

Well, actually, I think the clock struck 1 a.m. in his time zone and he turned into a pumpkin.

Or a peanut.

[TCJohnson]

Then let her go...
If she returns, she's ours...
If not, she never was...

Can we at tag her for tracking first?

[Cam63]

Dude, apropos of nothing, that is an AWESOME Scooby costume!

Gail

I thought he was Velma !

[Cam63]

Can we at tag her for tracking first?

Yeah, that's a good idea.

I'll get the tranquiliser !

[TomWaltz]

This is easily the most bizarre thread I've ever read through. And, God help me, I did read through it.

259 pages of posts?!! Holy guacamole! It's almost as long as my mortgage paperwork.

:)

I'm just waiting to see those banners like Marvel has for Civil War. You know -- "Whose side are you on?" I get the stong feeling in this case, however, it would be pretty darn one-sided.

Rightfully so.

(Oh, man... maybe I shouldn't have said that. Do I need to get a lawyer now, too?)

Heh.

Okay, that's my two cents. I've got some mean deadlines breathing down my neck. You folks are in excellent hands here with the lovely and talented Gail Simone, no doubt about it. Keep up the good fight, Gail!

Tom Waltz

[neko onna]

Please guys and gals..please quit lumping this boot licker in with gay people..they would not touch him with a hundred foot pole.:p

Also..if the T. Sterling is still around...can he explain how this doesn 't fall under Class Action?

Thank you and good night..see you in the morning.

[howyadoin]

I thought he was Velma !Nobody's supposed to know about that, Cam.

[Cam63]

E-4?

Six years and only a Corporal?

Corporal would be about right.

Sabrinaset's dad would know for sure

[Jack Zodiac]

Oh, Scott... I want to be just like you when I grow up and out. :p

You'll need a nice Hawaiin shirt, and quite frankly, I don't think you could find one big enough to squeeze all that asshole into.

2004 because of a heart ailment. 2006 because of three deaths in my immediate family from late July to October.

Fuckin' shame. Still, hat trick for failure!

Funny how you put that relationship together. I would've never seen that. So was sex involved? I have no idea. My remark to "Gail Simone" about my time on my back was just that. How she earned her stripes is her business.

You mean being a talented writers, a courteous person, and almost like a friend to some of her fans? Yeah, you could take a page, fuck even a cliffnote, from her.

"Zombie Cochran needs BRAINS!"

Zombie Cochran versus Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer!

Doesn't one have to have a heart first?

You're like the Wizard of Oz Trifecta: No heart, no brains, no courage. So let me guess, you don't bathe because water will melt you?

Oh-ho-ho-snap!

Oh, don't worry.... I have a feeling I know where you take it. Feh.

I know where your mother takes it!

If you guys are still planning to do a book to benefit the folks who need to sue this bitch, I'll do the cover for free. Just contact me at cully@gaijinstudios.com and say the word.

Man, I feel bad for the folks who got screwed in all of this, but I'd buy a copy of the benefit book just for the cover in that case. Get in touch with Doc Absurd and Scott Shaw, they're handlin' the thing.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Zombie Cochran versus Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer!



Those guys aren't like Southpark Cocran pullin the " Chewbacca " defense.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W5pOpDcobA

[Mark Waid]

I am a lawyer, and would like to offer the following brief bits of information (some previously set out in a different format at Mr. Dixon’s board) if only to save various people – perhaps only the incredibly generous Mr. Waid – a few dollars and headaches:

1. Don’t sweat the B.S. NDA. There are a multitude of reasons why these spurious NDAs would be completely unenforceable and meaningless. I won’t recite them all, except for the most obvious. The law does indeed follow the sensible conclusion that many people have already reached: failure to pay for previously rendered performance of services is a clear breach of contract, and no NDA can prevent legal action for same. Contract law term is ‘failure of consideration’.

2. Don’t spend more than you’re suing for. Small claims court is, in most places, intended to be for the unrepresented litigant. These are not complicated claims, so you don’t need a lawyer. You just need to tell your story clearly and concisely.

3. Keep your temper. If Mr. Olney should actually appear in court, which strikes me as unlikely, don’t rise to the bait. If he is remotely like his cyber-persona, his ramblings will give the judge all the evidence you need. Keep your cool, state your facts, refute the lies. Don’t roll your eyes, jump up and yell, or interrupt. Believe me, the Judge will like you more and listen to you with greater respect.

4. Be relevant / Keep it short. Again – concise and clear. Don’t think the judge is going to read this entire thread, or even short extracts that show what a loon and @$$hole this guy is. State the facts relevant only to your claim. You’re suing for non-payment by him for services rendered by you. There is nothing illegal about his being a prick, and no compensation you are entitled to for it. The journalistic 5 Ws should help give you a framework.

5. Necessary Expenses – part A. One claim each. Without going into a lengthy discourse, this is almost certainly not suited for a Class Action. Every individual creator will have to sue individually, spending at least the following:

(a) There will be a filing fee. If you win, the filing fee will form part of the judgment, but remember that the judgment could be uncollectible.
(b) Registered mail or process server. Since Mr. Olney will almost certainly be a no show, you will have to prove that he was notified of the claim in order to get default judgment against him.

6. Necessary Expenses– part B. Shared Expenses. There is one expense that could be incurred once and shared for the benefit of all. A really good thing to spend money on would be a “corporate search” in New York State for “Tightlip Entertainment.” (Yellow pages should turn up a local registry office to perform the search). If TightLip turns out to have actual corporate existence, it will turn up on the search and you should sue in PRECISELY the name that appears on the public register and serve the claim at the exact registered address shown. As a bonus, it will likely give you Olney’s address for service as corporate officer / director. Regardless, you should name Olney personally. TightLip Entertainment is, in all likelihood, simple a trade-name (or "pseudonym") for Rick Olney.

7. Where to Sue. You are probably wasting your time and money if you sue anywhere but the debtor’s home jurisdiction. Not saying you can’t, but unless the sums involved are starting at four figures, it’s probably not worth it. Interstate conflict of laws and enforcement of judgments get way more complicated than a the relatively simple New York Plaintiff vs. New York Defendants with New York assets.

8. Who to Sue. Sue both TightLip Entertainment and Richard Olney. Likely, this amounts to the same thing (see above), but if Olney actually went to the time, trouble and expense of incorporating, the judge might find that the contract is actually with the corporation and not with Olney personally. So if you have only sued Olney, you could lose simply for naming the wrong “person” in your suit. Again, sue both "people", just to be safe.

9. What to Sue For: This is not a pedantic point. Perhaps you can get your artwork / script / characters / web design back and a declaration that Olney has no rights to any of the creations involved. This could be better than a money judgment. Most jurisdictions allow you to make alternative claims and then elect in court which one you would prefer.

10. Collecting on the Judgment: This is probably the hardest part. Unfortunately, I will have to be a bit of a cop-out here and say that you will probably need to hire a professional for this. Often, the costs of collection can be added to the judgment, though.

Hope some of this is helpful to somebody. Maybe it won’t shut him up, but it could certainly set him back (or shut him down).

Regards,

“T Sterling”, a pseudonym clearly devised to defraud "Human Beings" like Rick Olney.

Thank you, sir (or madam, as the case may be). Very helpful and very informative.

Going by what I have heard from various pending-action litigants, most of the amounts owed are certainly worth suing for. Some creators are owed well into the four-figure range. That said, I don't give a tinker's damn what the payout is. I don't care if it costs someone a thousand bucks to sue Olney for a parking receipt, I'll pay it gladly so long as process is followed, and litigation is followed through, to the fullest extent of the law. I will (and have already) paid for filing fees and process servers, and I will furthermore overnight-FedEx a reimbursement check to the first legitimate obligee who will perform the suggested "corporate search" and share it with others owed.

Guys, help me spread the word far and wide on every message board you can find, because it's important that everyone Olney owes can hear it whether they visit here or not: I understand that it's exhausting and draining and, depending on your size, sometimes a little scary to face down a bully. That's why I have your back.

If you're involved in this medium at all at this level, it's very likely--at least in part--because, at some point in your young life, you were inspired by heroes who taught you that right makes might, or that doing good is its own reward. Those are very simplistic messages designed for children, yes. And, yes, adult life eventually beats those expectations out of us; I understand that more than you will ever know. I acknowledge that life surrounds us, tests us, with people who were blessed by the same teachings we were but who--because the world is a harsh place--have had to forget those lessons because it hurts too much to remember how much we once invested in them.

But we don't have to be that way. We're better than that, all of us, any of us born with the simple capacity for reason. And we get up in the morning, and we follow our conscience above all other considerations, and sometimes we stumble and sometimes we lose our way and sometimes we screw up and sometimes we are smacked down, but we get up and we stay true to our conscience as best as we possibly can. We do it to honor those who showed us how. We do it to teach those who have yet to learn. And most of all, we do it because there is absolutely no question in any good man's heart that doing right by others makes the world a better place for us all.

This isn't about monies owed. It's about doing right not only by others but by yourself. It's about having enough self-respect...which I know you all do, I know it...to stand up and teach a bully or a cheat that actions have consequences. Don't be afraid, and don't throw the opportunity away. Follow your conscience, and go to bed knowing that for all you may have bungled or blundered that day, you at least did something to improve your life and the lives of others less fortunate.

[Cam63]

See my post entry below, Mumma. :)

[Jack Zodiac]

Rick Olney is like the Dial H of scumbags...he becomes an entirely new asshole with every spin.

Man... I love you. It's weird, 'cause I'm not gay, but like... I wanna' touch you, now. Is that odd?

Good. Stay in Canada, you douche bag.

Rick Olney calling someone else a douchebag is like... ah, fuck it, no similes for you, douchebag.

So she dragged him along on your dime too? Wow... amazing. That poor guy. He rides more planes in search of his wife's career...

Can ya' blame her for loving her husband? You don't blame yours for hating you, right?

I thought Olney's favorite image would actually be this:

http://docs.raycornwall.com/ibroke.jpg

Fuckin' priceless!

The word you're looking for is "support". He rides planes in support of his wife's career. He does this because Scott is a man who loves his wife and is proud of her accomplishments. Because Scott is a man. You know, that thing you try to pretend to be.

Oh-goddamn-snap!

Gail Simone has made it a rule that nobody should make fun of your family. It is too bad you don't have the class to offer her the same curtisy.

Shit, she did? Ah, fuck it. Who can pass up an excellent "your mother!" joke?

Still the same sick bitch, I see...

Like I said, your "husband" carting his pirated DVD's and VHS tapes into America -- and your book about a female robot alien that befriends a stripper (who looks amazingly like you (tsk, tsk, tsk) doesn't make for enough money to make the trip worth it for the both of you.

Wow! Porn scandal and deadbeat "creators?" This thread is fucking awesome with extra kickass on the side.

Well, this is the only Olney photo I found...

I'm still trying to figure out how this pasty-faced doughboy claims to be a Marine.

http://docs.raycornwall.com/Olney.jpg

Is "willy-hole" still an official rank? I bet that's what he was.

[kmeyers]

Thank you, sir (or madam, as the case may be). Very helpful and very informative.

Going by what I have heard from various pending-action litigants, most of the amounts owed are certainly worth suing for. Some creators are owed well into the four-figure range. That said, I don't give a tinker's damn what the payout is. I don't care if it costs someone a thousand bucks to sue Olney for a parking receipt, I'll pay it gladly so long as process is followed, and litigation is followed through, to the fullest extent of the law. I will (and have already) paid for filing fees and process servers, and I will furthermore overnight-FedEx a reimbursement check to the first legitimate obligee who will perform the suggested "corporate search" and share it with others owed.

Guys, help me spread the word far and wide on every message board you can find, because it's important that everyone Olney owes can hear it whether they visit here or not: I understand that it's exhausting and draining and, depending on your size, sometimes a little scary to face down a bully. That's why I have your back.

If you're involved in this medium at all at this level, it's very likely--at least in part--because, at some point in your young life, you were inspired by heroes who taught you that right makes might, or that doing good is its own reward. Those are very simplistic messages designed for children, yes. And, yes, adult life eventually beats those expectations out of us; I understand that more than you will ever know. I acknowledge that life surrounds us, tests us, with people who were blessed by the same teachings we were but who--because the world is a harsh place--have had to forget those lessons because it hurts too much to remember how much we once invested in them.

But we don't have to be that way. We're better than that, all of us, any of us born with the simple capacity for reason. And we get up in the morning, and we follow our conscience above all other considerations, and sometimes we stumble and sometimes we lose our way and sometimes we screw up and sometimes we are smacked down, but we get up and we stay true to our conscience as best as we possibly can. We do it to honor those who showed us how. We do it to teach those who have yet to learn. And most of all, we do it because there is absolutely no question in any good man's heart that doing right by others makes the world a better place.

This isn't about monies owed. It's about doing right not only by others but by yourself. It's about having enough self-respect...which I know you all do, I know it...to stand up and teach a bully or a cheat that actions have consequences. Don't be afraid, and don't throw the opportunity away. Follow your conscience, and go to bed knowing that for all you may have bungled or blundered that day, you at least did something to improve your life and the lives of others less fortunate.

Fuckin right.

.

[Cam63]

CAM!?!

What is that? Such colorful words pouring forth tonight......


*scratchs ass and wonders......

Wonder no more, Mumm' !

" Fuck knuckle " is someone who masturbates frequently and hard.

That is to say, Rick is an extreme form of wanker.

[Jack Zodiac]

Where I come from, a man does not speak that way to ladies. Those are fighting words. You are way out of line here.

I think "way out of line" should be tattooed on this motherfucker's forehead.

Think and blow who and what you want through those two lips of yours. You're no prize. We proved that in Florida at MegaCon.

Wow, Rick. You're a real piece of shit. If it were at all possible for feces to further defecate, you'd be it, my friend.

You're making fun of a single typo? You? Your tenuous grasp of irony is mind-boggling.

Yes, yes, well-established: Rick's a fuckwad who gets less and less coherent over time. The only sure thing you can expect from his is to quote Gail's penname, y'know... 'cause he's trying to make some kinda' point.

I call them as I see them, Tim. Yourself included. If this banter gets you off your feeling sorry for yourself ass and gets you back to creating then so be it.

So, uh... what's holdin' you up from creating the next masterpiece of comic literature? The next Kingdom Come? The next Astro City? Please tell me it's "legal entanglements."

MacQuarrie, anytime...anywhere. You've already proved the biggest thing on you is your mouth.

Oh, awesome! This could be even better than Uwe Boll challenging all of his critics to boxing matches! Except, oddly enough, Boll's actually had a successful career (at least, compared to Olney's, anyway).

Post calmly - let him foam at the mouth.

Can rabies be sexually transmitted?

I don't make threats.

Ya' don't make comics, either!

[Chris N]

Mark Waid, that's the most beautiful thing I've read in a while. I will do my best to spread your message.

[Chris N]

Mark Waid, that's the most beautiful thing I've read in a while. I will do my best to spread your message.

[J. Morgan (Bat) Neal]

Thank you, sir (or madam, as the case may be). Very helpful and very informative.

Going by what I have heard from various pending-action litigants, most of the amounts owed are certainly worth suing for. Some creators are owed well into the four-figure range. That said, I don't give a tinker's damn what the payout is. I don't care if it costs someone a thousand bucks to sue Olney for a parking receipt, I'll pay it gladly so long as process is followed, and litigation is followed through, to the fullest extent of the law. I will (and have already) paid for filing fees and process servers, and I will furthermore overnight-FedEx a reimbursement check to the first legitimate obligee who will perform the suggested "corporate search" and share it with others owed.

Guys, help me spread the word far and wide on every message board you can find, because it's important that everyone Olney owes can hear it whether they visit here or not: I understand that it's exhausting and draining and, depending on your size, sometimes a little scary to face down a bully. That's why I have your back.

If you're involved in this medium at all at this level, it's very likely--at least in part--because, at some point in your young life, you were inspired by heroes who taught you that right makes might, or that doing good is its own reward. Those are very simplistic messages designed for children, yes. And, yes, adult life eventually beats those expectations out of us; I understand that more than you will ever know. I acknowledge that life surrounds us, tests us, with people who were blessed by the same teachings we were but who--because the world is a harsh place--have had to forget those lessons because it hurts too much to remember how much we once invested in them.

But we don't have to be that way. We're better than that, all of us, any of us born with the simple capacity for reason. And we get up in the morning, and we follow our conscience above all other considerations, and sometimes we stumble and sometimes we lose our way and sometimes we screw up and sometimes we are smacked down, but we get up and we stay true to our conscience as best as we possibly can. We do it to honor those who showed us how. We do it to teach those who have yet to learn. And most of all, we do it because there is absolutely no question in any good man's heart that doing right by others makes the world a better place for us all.

This isn't about monies owed. It's about doing right not only by others but by yourself. It's about having enough self-respect...which I know you all do, I know it...to stand up and teach a bully or a cheat that actions have consequences. Don't be afraid, and don't throw the opportunity away. Follow your conscience, and go to bed knowing that for all you may have bungled or blundered that day, you at least did something to improve your life and the lives of others less fortunate.

Wonderful use of the money from all those Fantastic Four and Flash comics I bought. ;)

[Larry Dixon]

On another note, anyone besides me who honestly, genuinely read the "iKill" picture as a threat, please pipe up.

I can't see it as a threat.

For it to be a threat, it'd have to come from a Marine.

And of course, a real Marine would not make a threat.

So it's a double-neuter for the source.

My two cents.

[Jack Zodiac]

Did he just say Gail's reader numbers will drop solely because she stated someone was an arsehole & didn't pay what he owed? Or is he insinuating he has a cunning plan, Mr Blackadder, designed to steal away her readers?

Yeah, I know I won't be reading any more of Gail's work 'cause she called some asshole an asshole.

Pffffahahahaha! Ah, Rick... fuck you sideways, you silly asshole.

Have not a clue what you're talking about BIG momma.

Rick Olney, a chubby fuckhat, makes fun of larger women.

Rick Olney, a cheapskate deadbeat, berates others for actually paying people.

Rick Olney, a man-child with sketchy grammar, "redmarks" other people's posts for typos.

That's three. Is it official? Can we get his picture next to "hypocrite" in the dictionary? Or maybe "douchebag?"

Hmmm... jailbird, eh?

You're a twat.

Nothing meaninful in context, I just wanted to get that out in the open.

No worries.

a) he isn't going.

b) he is a blowhard

c) he is a coward

d) he uses his weekends at Bellevue for family visits

e) all of the above!

Oh dear.

If you want to be a writer you really should try to build up that vocabulary of yours.

He has to master the whole grammar thing before he even thinks about vocabulary.

"Slight bruise"?

My daddy taught me one thing: Hit the soft parts with your hand; for the hard parts, use a utensil. Lucky for Dickless there's 3000 miles standing between us.

I learned this one on my own: it doesn't matter if the guy's bigger than your or smaller than you, a knee in the groin and a head to the nose'll take down anyone.

One lies, the other swears to it.

Must be an unwritten code between *AHEM* "professional" comic book writers.

Gee whiz... maybe I should rethink my goals. lol :rolleyes:

For the record!

Gail Simone: breakout talent in comics within the past five years. Unprofessional.

Mark Waid: wrote fucking Kingdom Come! Unprofessional.

Rick Olney: cheapskate prick who couldn't publish a Tijuana Bible. Professional.

[Cam63]

Oh, you mean "Mr. Gail Simone"? lol I betting he's a man with incredible insight.

Everyone I know speaks well of him, Rickweed.

[Jack Zodiac]

Bite me, Brit! Your country would fall down around your ears before you'd defend your neighbors or self. I know, I've read your crappola over the last 6 years.

Rick Olney! Has his head so far up his ass, I heard they predict the end of Winter every year when he finally pokes it out and gets frightened by his own shadow.

Did you ever, I'unno... attend highschool? Or even watch the History Channel? Or does establishing oneself as the leading power in the world with one of the most powerful naval forces in history mean... you can't defend your country?

You are talking about Britain, right? The country that held off the Germans for years whilst being carpet bombed in WWII? Your military history knowledge matches your military career. They are both non-existent.

I'll stick to my earlier belief that the blood flow to his brain is being cut off by his asshole.

Smarter than that, Mark. :D

Rick Olney! Smaaaaaaaaarter than the average, uh... I'unno, rock? Nah, rocks can't talk, so they've got something on this fuckin' twat.

I deffinitely forgive you for Booster Gold. ;)

I could never hold that against him, 'cause I've got faith, man! Booster ain't dead and Mark Waid can do no wrong!

You know what, after seeing him post that shit to Joanne, I'm thinking of the first ever real Yabs ban.

And ruin this fun? No fuckin' way! This thread's officially wasting more of my time than Rita's, and that's sayin' something.

[Cam63]

I can't see it as a threat.

For it to be a threat, it'd have to come from a Marine.

And of course, a real Marine would not make a threat.

So it's a double-neuter for the source.

My two cents.

I still don't like it.

[T Sterling]

Thank you, sir (or madam, as the case may be). Very helpful and very informative.

Going by what I have heard from various pending-action litigants, most of the amounts owed are certainly worth suing for. Some creators are owed well into the four-figure range. That said, I don't give a tinker's damn what the payout is. I don't care if it costs someone a thousand bucks to sue Olney for a parking receipt, I'll pay it gladly so long as process is followed, and litigation is followed through, to the fullest extent of the law. I will (and have already) paid for filing fees and process servers, and I will furthermore overnight-FedEx a reimbursement check to the first legitimate obligee who will perform the suggested "corporate search" and share it with others owed.

Guys, help me spread the word far and wide on every message board you can find, because it's important that everyone Olney owes can hear it whether they visit here or not: I understand that it's exhausting and draining and, depending on your size, sometimes a little scary to face down a bully. That's why I have your back.

If you're involved in this medium at all at this level, it's very likely--at least in part--because, at some point in your young life, you were inspired by heroes who taught you that right makes might, or that doing good is its own reward. Those are very simplistic messages designed for children, yes. And, yes, adult life eventually beats those expectations out of us; I understand that more than you will ever know. I acknowledge that life surrounds us, tests us, with people who were blessed by the same teachings we were but who--because the world is a harsh place--have had to forget those lessons because it hurts too much to remember how much we once invested in them.

But we don't have to be that way. We're better than that, all of us, any of us born with the simple capacity for reason. And we get up in the morning, and we follow our conscience above all other considerations, and sometimes we stumble and sometimes we lose our way and sometimes we screw up and sometimes we are smacked down, but we get up and we stay true to our conscience as best as we possibly can. We do it to honor those who showed us how. We do it to teach those who have yet to learn. And most of all, we do it because there is absolutely no question in any good man's heart that doing right by others makes the world a better place for us all.

This isn't about monies owed. It's about doing right not only by others but by yourself. It's about having enough self-respect...which I know you all do, I know it...to stand up and teach a bully or a cheat that actions have consequences. Don't be afraid, and don't throw the opportunity away. Follow your conscience, and go to bed knowing that for all you may have bungled or blundered that day, you at least did something to improve your life and the lives of others less fortunate.

You could not be more welcome. In the spirit of your post, I thought I might see if I could perform the search on-line with a credit card. As it turns out, it APPEARS that corporate searches can be performed in New York for free (I am in Western Canada):

http://appsext8.dos.state.ny.us/corp_public/corpsearch.entity_search_entry

Using the partial name "Tight", I found no apparent entity that would fit the bill. I also searched in Delaware, a common haven for incorporation:

https://sos-res.state.de.us/tin/GINameSearch.jsp

Again, no result. These searches indicate that there is no such corporation, but I don't have the local expertise to say for sure and have no easy suggestions to dispel doubt entirely; very difficult to disprove a negative.

If in doubt, I recommend that any claims name the Defendant(s) as:

Richard "Rick" Olney, doing business as "Tightlip Entertainment",

and,

ABC Corporation, doing business as "Tightlip Entertainment",

"ABC Corporation" being the corporate equivalent of "John Doe".

Your local Small Claims court would, I imagine, have a decent pamphlet or guide on these matters in any event.

[Cam63]

I like this legal guy.

[Jack Zodiac]

This thread isn't doing anything productive anymore.

It made the hours pass by for me. Seriously, I picked it back up around one, it's like... four now. Holy fuck.

There are NO saints here.

I disagree. Plenty of folks here have been nothing but amazing during all of this. The rest of us are picking up the slack for 'em by being even bigger assholes. And that's my cue!

There's at least one saint here! Rick! Patron Saint of Douchebags.

Corrina, bite me with your schoolgirl, bullshit. :rolleyes: What do you think we're playing here -- Show and Tell? :D

I thought so. I figured you were showing us how much of an asshole you are, and we were all telling you you're an asshole.

I love how bullies think, pack up, tear at their prey ... and then act like they're innocent. Poor Sarah...

If we're the bullies and your the poor nerd, shouldn't you, like, go out of your way to avoid us so we don't give you wedgies and jam your stupid ass in a locker?

Hey! That's my picture! Apparently Rick and I are good friends now.

I knew I saw that somewhere around here before. That's Chrisy-Doo!

We haven't broken 3500 posts yet. LONG WAYS TO GO!

When we get there, though, you have to call part two, "Bastard Son of Olney."

But then, what do I know? I'm a Communist. :rolleyes:

I knew I smelled the deep strench of Socialism all over Blue Beetle!

Fuck you, bitch.

Hey, this place is lookin' more like Rita's already! :) When all's said and done, YABS should have an off-topic thread called "Olney's."

[I_am_scifi]

While I am not going to go back and read over 200 pages of this thread for the sake of sanity, I will say this much:

I have never met Gail Simone, but she has always appeared friendly, honest, and open in her forum posts, and correspondence with other people I know. Mark Waid is a well respected veteran whose word I believe as well.

Ric Olney seems a lot like the usual morons I find on the internet from time to time. First, they lie to gain your trust. Then, they lie to benefit themselves. Finally, they lie about lying in the first place, and try to make it appear they are being unjustly slandered.

You can say what you want, when you want to say it. Doesn't mean we have to believe a word of it. If well respected industry men and women say you're scum, then by golly I am going to agree with that statement. If it was just Gail vs. Olney that would be a different matter, but it's more than that. And so, I hope you go down hard, Mr. Olney. You can only cheat your way out of a corner so many times before you run out of corners to hide.

Gail, Mark, others...your fans have your back on this as always, and I do hope you expose this man for what he is in court as well. Make him pay, in more ways than one.

[Jack Zodiac]

Have you considered soap opera work? Quit your feckin' cryin' and grab the bear by the balls!

"Grab the bear?" That's secret Communist talk! Get 'im, Cully!

Get bust, Mickey! We gotta push this bastard up over 250 pages before midnight or Jonah said he's gonna take a huge dump on your house.

Man... for once, this prick made me laugh with him and not at him or in his general direction.

My business is my business.

And Dick's business is no business, like no business I know!

Oh, you mean "Mr. Gail Simone"? lol I betting he's a man with incredible insight.

At the very least, he's a man with a successful spouse. I'm sure yours is jealous.

hey Rick...

this is me:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/brianjcrowley/me-2.jpg
at work... on comics that get published.
That everyone involved get paid for...

oh and I'm overweight...

guess which one of these three things we have in common?

Mr. Crowley, you're one sexy bastard with that beard and that job o' yer's!

Your debt has nothing to do with the people you owe the money to?

That's some pretty fucked-up logic.

Remember... Bizarro World or Asshole County.

[Cam63]

Mr. Crowley, you're one sexy bastard with that beard and that job o' yer's!

Yeah, but he loses points for wearing a tie with a short sleeved shirt.

Only Sipowicz can pull that shit off.

http://bogieworks.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/sipowicz.jpg

...See ?

[Jack Zodiac]

If you're a Canadian chick with a fetish for robot alien chicks go back to stripping. :D

Or e-mail me, 'cause I get bored on weekends!

Wow, only half mast. I admit, I'm surprised you can even get it up that high.

I wants to sexes you ups. Is it the beard? It's gotta' be. You, Crowley, Busiek, even Bret and his goatee...

Olney's a discredit to us all! We must hunt him down and shave him!

On the other hand, I *can* shoot lighting bolts from my eyes. I just don't do it often because my eyebrows catch on fire.

Tony Isabella

Pffffffuck it! Who needs eyebrows?

Ah-ah! I wrote MARVELS -- Mark wrote KINGDOM COME!

And the two of your together in this thread theatens the very fabric of the Internet!

You, Isabella, Waid, Busiek... you're all old news.

Yeah... which is why Busiek's gainfully employed and working for the foreseeable future on Superman, and Waid's currently co-writing one of the biggest successes DC Comics has had in years.

And you... sit on your fat ass, post on the Internet, and accrue debt. You're a fucking joke, man.

Geesh... another rollie pollie cuddlefuck lacking attention. Busiek ain't you got a deadline you're late for? :rolleyes:

And the list keeps on growing!

Rick Olney, a worthless twat who couldn't publish a book if his integrity (ha fuckin' ha!) depended on it, criticizes one of the greatest writers in the industry for being late a couple of times.

Is it hard to breathe with your head so fuckin' far up your ass?

Fuck, I'm a cuddlefuck.

Is " cuddlefuck " OK to call friends of mine ?

Man, I hope so, or I'm out of another job...

Maybe if you put a lampshade on your head. Umm... nevermind.

Maybe, what? He'll still be a more successful writer than you'll ever be, but with a lampshade on his head?

Gail, we all love you, and we all respect your patience and tolerance and your dedication to principle when it comes to freedom of expression...

...but fucking Oliver Wendell Holmes would have banned Olney by now.

Just sayin'.

Ha! Mark Waid made a sophisticated funny and dropped a big ol' f-bomb right before it. This thread is better than sex. Really bad sex, but still, that's sayin' somethin'.

[Larry Dixon]

I still don't like it.
Oh yeah ya wee little Aussie? Soon as I finish my funnelweb and seasnake sandwich I'll make ya like it. Now gimme yer beer, wankstank.

[Larry Dixon]

I made up "wankstank" just for you Cam. Y'know I love you.

[Alan Lynch]

God, I'd love to read the rest of this (20 fucking pages?), but some of us have jobs to do...
I expect we'll have a press release or two coming early next month. I have filled the PR/marketing position vacated by Ms. Ronee Garcia Bourgeois, as we're slowly getting situated here to get back to business.
Whoever they are, they're doing a shitty job. Seriously. Shouldn't they be - I don't work in PR, so I'm guessing here - publicising the book in a way that makes people want to buy it? I wouldn't touch it if you paid me. Which is a scenario so unlikely that I may have just undermined my own point.

And taking the moral high ground over trolling while insulting someone about their weight makes you a hypocrite. Though again, this seems to be something quite alien to you.

[TheWraith]

Considering that you call me a talent at all, I'm not sure if I should be insulted or praised. I know what my abilities are, and so I don't take your opinion for much. As for "the other Frank"... I have patched ways with him, and am now working for him in a PAYING fashion (the issue upon which I left before, but it's been totally resolved, he's paying me, which I can't say the same for YOU)... so... when are you going to pony up? Oh wait, I'm in a long line now waiting for that answer... so I won't expect it quickly. Much like everything else you've said you'll "get right on".

I'd just like to say that:

a) I've never spoken personally with Rick Olney, apart from him asking me years ago to attend his Mighty Mini-Con, and as I live in Australia, that was impossible for me to do.
b) I've never called Jim Taylor a "waste of talent," not to Olney, not to anyone. Jim and I had a small falling out nearly 2 years ago re: his work on my comic book series The Wraith. It had nothing to do with Olney, I never discussed the situation with Olney, I barely know who the guy is (and forgotten all about my very brief encounter with him years ago until this thread appeared).
c) As Jim says above, we've since resolved our minor differences and Jim's back to work on an issue of The Wraith, where he's always belonged, with the Dread Avenger of the Underworld. And, unlike Olney, I've paid all the creators I've hired for my series.

So, for this twat Olney to speak in my name just galls the fucking shit out of me, which prompted me to post this message here to clarify things. I'm one of the lucky few to have not been screwed over by this "man," so I have nothing further to add to this thread, and will be vacating it as quickly as I can, as being this close to someone like Olney literally makes me feel violently ill. Good luck to you all in your fight against this guy though. I'm with you in spirit.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

You miss one day and you get an all out war here. This thread has hit a zone that Rod Sterling would not dare venture. Though as a guy breaking in, I applaud creators for standing up to this guy.

Rick...pay these people. This is not going to end happily for you if you don't. Work out a deal with the creators you owe. Most of them would rather have their money then confront you in court. Your own stance has practically guaranteed it. And if you can't pay...

Surely your own survival outside of prison would be worth shelling out a few bucks? Or at least admitting if you don't have the money...you may initially piss off everyone (but hey, it's not like you can go much farther there) but at least there might be a shred of honesty in that.

Otherwise dude I hope you enjoy stripes. You may be wearing them for a long time.

JP

[Forefinger]

Dear kmeyers,

Kindly go back to the very first post in this thread and read the entire litany of nonsense that is nothing less than dramatic troll driven spittle. Then, after you paid explicit attention to how many times I have been attacked, insulted, or demeaned upon ... rethink the nature of your question. Again, this matter has NOTHING to do with you or many that have posted here attempting to take a swing and let their mouth write a check which their asses can't cover.

My business is my business.

Fuck you, bitch.

[Forefinger]

Hey, this place is lookin' more like Rita's already! :) When all's said and done, YABS should have an off-topic thread called "Olney's."

SPOON!


HAW HAW HAW

[Gail Simone]

This is easily the most bizarre thread I've ever read through. And, God help me, I did read through it.

259 pages of posts?!! Holy guacamole! It's almost as long as my mortgage paperwork.

:)

I'm just waiting to see those banners like Marvel has for Civil War. You know -- "Whose side are you on?" I get the stong feeling in this case, however, it would be pretty darn one-sided.

Rightfully so.

(Oh, man... maybe I shouldn't have said that. Do I need to get a lawyer now, too?)

Heh.

Okay, that's my two cents. I've got some mean deadlines breathing down my neck. You folks are in excellent hands here with the lovely and talented Gail Simone, no doubt about it. Keep up the good fight, Gail!

Tom Waltz


Thanks, Tom.

But what fight?

It's the whole world against one idiot saying, "Nuh uh! I am TOO an awesome dood!" over and over.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Thank you, sir (or madam, as the case may be). Very helpful and very informative.

Going by what I have heard from various pending-action litigants, most of the amounts owed are certainly worth suing for. Some creators are owed well into the four-figure range. That said, I don't give a tinker's damn what the payout is. I don't care if it costs someone a thousand bucks to sue Olney for a parking receipt, I'll pay it gladly so long as process is followed, and litigation is followed through, to the fullest extent of the law. I will (and have already) paid for filing fees and process servers, and I will furthermore overnight-FedEx a reimbursement check to the first legitimate obligee who will perform the suggested "corporate search" and share it with others owed.

Guys, help me spread the word far and wide on every message board you can find, because it's important that everyone Olney owes can hear it whether they visit here or not: I understand that it's exhausting and draining and, depending on your size, sometimes a little scary to face down a bully. That's why I have your back.

If you're involved in this medium at all at this level, it's very likely--at least in part--because, at some point in your young life, you were inspired by heroes who taught you that right makes might, or that doing good is its own reward. Those are very simplistic messages designed for children, yes. And, yes, adult life eventually beats those expectations out of us; I understand that more than you will ever know. I acknowledge that life surrounds us, tests us, with people who were blessed by the same teachings we were but who--because the world is a harsh place--have had to forget those lessons because it hurts too much to remember how much we once invested in them.

But we don't have to be that way. We're better than that, all of us, any of us born with the simple capacity for reason. And we get up in the morning, and we follow our conscience above all other considerations, and sometimes we stumble and sometimes we lose our way and sometimes we screw up and sometimes we are smacked down, but we get up and we stay true to our conscience as best as we possibly can. We do it to honor those who showed us how. We do it to teach those who have yet to learn. And most of all, we do it because there is absolutely no question in any good man's heart that doing right by others makes the world a better place for us all.

This isn't about monies owed. It's about doing right not only by others but by yourself. It's about having enough self-respect...which I know you all do, I know it...to stand up and teach a bully or a cheat that actions have consequences. Don't be afraid, and don't throw the opportunity away. Follow your conscience, and go to bed knowing that for all you may have bungled or blundered that day, you at least did something to improve your life and the lives of others less fortunate.



That guy right there?

That's my friend Mark Waid.

Goddamn, made of ROCK.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Fuck you, bitch.

While Forefinger takes the direct approach! ;)

Gail

[Solaris]

Thank you, sir (or madam, as the case may be). Very helpful and very informative.

Going by what I have heard from various pending-action litigants, most of the amounts owed are certainly worth suing for. Some creators are owed well into the four-figure range. That said, I don't give a tinker's damn what the payout is. I don't care if it costs someone a thousand bucks to sue Olney for a parking receipt, I'll pay it gladly so long as process is followed, and litigation is followed through, to the fullest extent of the law. I will (and have already) paid for filing fees and process servers, and I will furthermore overnight-FedEx a reimbursement check to the first legitimate obligee who will perform the suggested "corporate search" and share it with others owed.

Guys, help me spread the word far and wide on every message board you can find, because it's important that everyone Olney owes can hear it whether they visit here or not: I understand that it's exhausting and draining and, depending on your size, sometimes a little scary to face down a bully. That's why I have your back.

If you're involved in this medium at all at this level, it's very likely--at least in part--because, at some point in your young life, you were inspired by heroes who taught you that right makes might, or that doing good is its own reward. Those are very simplistic messages designed for children, yes. And, yes, adult life eventually beats those expectations out of us; I understand that more than you will ever know. I acknowledge that life surrounds us, tests us, with people who were blessed by the same teachings we were but who--because the world is a harsh place--have had to forget those lessons because it hurts too much to remember how much we once invested in them.

But we don't have to be that way. We're better than that, all of us, any of us born with the simple capacity for reason. And we get up in the morning, and we follow our conscience above all other considerations, and sometimes we stumble and sometimes we lose our way and sometimes we screw up and sometimes we are smacked down, but we get up and we stay true to our conscience as best as we possibly can. We do it to honor those who showed us how. We do it to teach those who have yet to learn. And most of all, we do it because there is absolutely no question in any good man's heart that doing right by others makes the world a better place for us all.

This isn't about monies owed. It's about doing right not only by others but by yourself. It's about having enough self-respect...which I know you all do, I know it...to stand up and teach a bully or a cheat that actions have consequences. Don't be afraid, and don't throw the opportunity away. Follow your conscience, and go to bed knowing that for all you may have bungled or blundered that day, you at least did something to improve your life and the lives of others less fortunate.


Just to recap for anyone new to the thread who doesn't want to read 20+ pages but wants to know what's going on, the basics are above. This man Rick Olney (aka Orcafresh) has had more people than I've ever seen come out of the woodwork, all saying the same thing: "I got screwed on payment by Rick Olney, he lied repeatedly about it," and in some cases, "he's also lied about things I've said, trying to quote me to someone else as being on his side." Further, from the quotes I've read since I came back to this thread, he's gotten vilely abusive toward Ms. Simone and some others; in Gail's case, insulting her weight, her husband, and her genitals, among other things.

Now, if you're new and reading this, I put this forth to you:

We've all seen people warring on the internet. When it's just two, or a small handful of people, one might see it as simple "bad blood between them"... but when it's droves of small creators (and the man's own former PR person to boot!), with all of them having had similar, if not nearly identical experiences... IMO, you shift over from the realm of "possible bad blood" to "there's a con man at work."

In an industry like this, where a lot of people are trying to follow their dream and break into regular work (or any work), often those people have little money in doing so, are *making* little money, or even have made personal sacrifices or have personal lives on the line (for instance, having taken on a loan, remortgaged a house, etc.) in order to pursue their dream of creating comics. ANYone who takes advantage of that "I'm alone and don't have much money" situation to bilk people out of work and then threaten to sue them when they try to gain recompense is not only a con artist, but as our lawyer friend here said, is breaking the law.

This thread may be an ugly thing indeed... but it's served two very valuable purposes:

1. It's helping to let individuals who as yet have not become victims of this man and his "business" learn to stay away, and to perhaps do a bit more in-depth checking on prospective employers... no matter *how* tempting the words "I will get you published" may appear, and

2. It's allowed many who thought they were alone in getting screwed to discover that they are NOT alone, that Olney DOESN'T have a leg to stand on, legally, and that they CAN fight this---especially with people like Mark (see quote above) willing to help them.

Comics may be a business built on making money, just like any industry---but it's a business inspired by dreams of creativity, and following those dreams in a very personal creative way. Aside from the issue of lying, bluffing, insults, and non-payment... I think that's one of the worst things this man has done, because who knows how many people may have GIVEN UP on their dreams after working for him, or how many HAD to give it up because his lack of payment left them in debt and financial hardship.

Superheroes aren't the only ones out there who can "protect the little guy"---sometimes it's professionals with not one ounce of heat vision or magic ropes... and sometimes it's simply the "little guys" banding together. :) Those are real life heroes.

*takes a savory moment to remember the first Spiderman movie, and the scene where the New Yorkers on the bridge began pelting Green Goblin with garbage right when he was about to kill Spidey*

:D

I'm wishing all the best to those who are trying to pursue justice in this, to those who are trying to save others from suffering what they themselves have suffered, and those who managed to find a way to keep going in pursuing their dreams, despite their experiences with this man and his "business."


I would like to thank Gail for getting the ball rolling on this here (I'm sure it's rolling in many other places as well), and to thank her and the many people who have come forward to tell their stories, and those who have offered various kinds of support for these folks. You people ARE heroes. :)

[Gail Simone]

I like this legal guy.

He's got a certain charm and I like how when he says legal things, they don't seem like the ravings of a lying deadbeat idiot who claims to have a Star Wars toy named after him.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

While I am not going to go back and read over 200 pages of this thread for the sake of sanity, I will say this much:

I have never met Gail Simone, but she has always appeared friendly, honest, and open in her forum posts, and correspondence with other people I know. Mark Waid is a well respected veteran whose word I believe as well.

Ric Olney seems a lot like the usual morons I find on the internet from time to time. First, they lie to gain your trust. Then, they lie to benefit themselves. Finally, they lie about lying in the first place, and try to make it appear they are being unjustly slandered.

You can say what you want, when you want to say it. Doesn't mean we have to believe a word of it. If well respected industry men and women say you're scum, then by golly I am going to agree with that statement. If it was just Gail vs. Olney that would be a different matter, but it's more than that. And so, I hope you go down hard, Mr. Olney. You can only cheat your way out of a corner so many times before you run out of corners to hide.

Gail, Mark, others...your fans have your back on this as always, and I do hope you expose this man for what he is in court as well. Make him pay, in more ways than one.


Thank you, sweetie. That's exactly what's happening. It's going to be a very bad week for this particular lying deadbeat.


Gail

[Solaris]

He's got a certain charm and I like how when he says legal things, they don't seem like the ravings of a lying deadbeat idiot who claims to have a Star Wars toy named after him.

Gail

Darth Sidious?

:D

[Gail Simone]

I'd just like to say that:

a) I've never spoken personally with Rick Olney, apart from him asking me years ago to attend his Mighty Mini-Con, and as I live in Australia, that was impossible for me to do.
b) I've never called Jim Taylor a "waste of talent," not to Olney, not to anyone. Jim and I had a small falling out nearly 2 years ago re: his work on my comic book series The Wraith. It had nothing to do with Olney, I never discussed the situation with Olney, I barely know who the guy is (and forgotten all about my very brief encounter with him years ago until this thread appeared).
c) As Jim says above, we've since resolved our minor differences and Jim's back to work on an issue of The Wraith, where he's always belonged, with the Dread Avenger of the Underworld. And, unlike Olney, I've paid all the creators I've hired for my series.

So, for this twat Olney to speak in my name just galls the fucking shit out of me, which prompted me to post this message here to clarify things. I'm one of the lucky few to have not been screwed over by this "man," so I have nothing further to add to this thread, and will be vacating it as quickly as I can, as being this close to someone like Olney literally makes me feel violently ill. Good luck to you all in your fight against this guy though. I'm with you in spirit.


Back to Rick's chronic need to feel like a 'player' in the industry. All you have to do is read his bullshit emails and blogs...he goes to HILARIOUS lengths to seem important and to have even the most tenuous connection to actual comics pros, which he will never be.

Probably his funniest post here was the one about how he never tried to be in with comics professionals. Anyone who talks with him for five minutes knows he'd give his last breath trying to convince passersby that he actually is known in the industry. As I said, we were held hostage after the con for two hours while he talked about the SADDEST and most pathetic little meetings with comics pros. Maybe that smell was more desperation than B.O.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Darth Sidious?

:D

B.O. Binks.


Gail

[Solaris]

B.O. Binks.


Gail

Man, that's not something I'd brag about---I'd rather be an Ewok. :D

Actually, when you think about it---one of the real perks of being a writer/creator is when you take someone truly lousy you've encountered and make fun of them in your work. I've seen many writers say this---some even take notes after the encounter, just so they don't forget the details. I've got a few "characters" in that gallery myself, whom I pull out on occasion when I need to refresh my mind on what a jerk looks, acts, walks, and talks like. :D And the fun of it is, even if the person *did* read the parody, they'd never recognize themselves... because that type always has an inflated ego.

It's like the movie "Office Space," when everyone who watches it ends up pointing to the screen and saying "I KNOW that guy! Well, one JUST LIKE HIM." Hee.

[Gail Simone]

Man, that's not something I'd brag about---I'd rather be an Ewok. :D

Actually, when you think about it---one of the real perks of being a writer/creator is when you take someone truly lousy you've encountered and make fun of them in your work. I've seen many writers say this---some even take notes after the encounter, just so they don't forget the details. I've got a few "characters" in that gallery myself, whom I pull out on occasion when I need to refresh my mind on what a jerk looks, acts, walks, and talks like. :D And the fun of it is, even if the person *did* read the parody, they'd never recognize themselves... because that type always has an inflated ego.

It's like the movie "Office Space," when everyone who watches it ends up pointing to the screen and saying "I KNOW that guy! Well, one JUST LIKE HIM." Hee.



Yeah, but I wrote Villains United and even Grodd would be like, "Hey, who the hell is THAT smelly deadbeat?"

I mean, even villains have STANDARDS. ;)

Gail

[OzBat!]

He smells kinda funky, though.Well, Oz' is a Canberran. Don't hold that against him. :)In my own defence, that's the reek from all those politicians we corral into the Parliamentary triangle as a community service to the rest of the country, not me personally.

I'd even offer to drive Cam in my own car to prove it, but I'm afraid of getting knocked out by the beer fumes.

[Solaris]

Yeah, but I wrote Villains United and even Grodd would be like, "Hey, who the hell is THAT smelly deadbeat?"

I mean, even villains have STANDARDS. ;)

Gail


No, this kind of character isn't the SUPERvillain... it's the annoying little twerp that the audience cheers when the villain steps on him, and the one that really tests the hero's ability to keep saying "I fight to preserve life... even that kind of lifeform"... it may be said through gritted teeth, but the hero usually still manages to say it. (All the while thinking "Thank GOD that annoying jerk is GONE!" Maybe I should buy Grodd a beer or something...")

[Paul Newell]

Though I haven't contributed to this thread, I've been reading from the start and decided to see what effect this thread is having outside of CBR.

Then I found this. Enjoy:

http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/interviews2.asp?intID=290

My favourite quote:
PDR: This ends the interview, any encouraging words of wisdom?
RO: Yes, if you'll allow me -- I'd like to close this interview with a touch more of some original expression; And you may quote me: To all those that feel I've hurt them; Forgive me. To all those that know the warmth of my friendship; Remember me. To those that loved me, know that I love you still today. I was only here in the spotlight of life a brief time, but you've all made my life the richer for my exposure to you.


Thank you for this honor, Paul.

[Gail Simone]

Though I haven't contributed to this thread, I've been reading from the start and decided to see what effect this thread is having outside of CBR.

Then I found this. Enjoy:

http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/interviews2.asp?intID=290

My favourite quote:


Weird.

Little freakish wannabe nobody acting like he's giving the last speech of Custer. Like future generations must hear his wisdom so they too can cheat creators and melt down in public like a flaming moron.

Hilarious.

Gail

[OzBat!]

"To all those who I owe money, screw you and the NDA I rode in on!"

[AIPman1]

Wow... that's surprising. Nice knowing you over the years, Gerry. You take care of yourself. Good luck with your projects and I hope that museum gets off the ground someday.

Translation: You too have joined Rick's Plebe list.

[TomStillwell]

That avatar of Rick's...why is it we don't have one that says, "The least talented man in comics?"

:)

Gail

Wouldn't he have to "be" in comics?

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

Wouldn't he have to "be" in comics?touche

JP

[Gail Simone]

Wouldn't he have to "be" in comics?

"Least Talented Man PRETENDING To Be In Comics," then.

You guys are sticklers!

;)

Gail

[TomStillwell]

Man... I love you. It's weird, 'cause I'm not gay, but like... I wanna' touch you, now. Is that odd?

Now Jack, you know I'm saving my man cherry for Didio in order to get a job at DC Comics.

Oh...the porn 'stache...the shaven head...the unlimited power <swoon>

[EdContradictory]

Though I haven't contributed to this thread, I've been reading from the start and decided to see what effect this thread is having outside of CBR.

Then I found this. Enjoy:

http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/interviews2.asp?intID=290

My favourite quote:

Ah, Paul Dale Roberts... is there anything that doesn't excite you?

[Sparvid]

Beyond that, check out TightLip Entertainment's books to get the nitty gritty on real heroes.

To paraphrase Mick Foley (and continuing the wrestling analogies :D):
"Oh man, I can't wait to read these! ...there's nothing in here! It's- it's empty! There are no TightLip books! Hahaha, there are- there are no such things as TightLip books! Haha, this is the merriest Christmas of all! Hahaha, thank you Santa, 'TightLip books'... Hahaha!"

[Art Grafunkel]

He's got a certain charm and I like how when he says legal things, they don't seem like the ravings of a lying deadbeat idiot who claims to have a Star Wars toy named after him.

Darth Sidious?

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/theearthtoys_1930_56578198

Nope. "Ric Olié", according to this thread: http://www.grantbond.com/bulletin/viewtopic.php?t=29&sid=276a6b11bf971c4bbdf6aecbcbf63d0d

There are many more to be found, just google for "olney ric olie"... he likes to spread the word.

Olney about how a Star Wars character was named after him:
Yeah, it was pretty unbelieveable for me at first. And it happened kind of funny like, because I had gotten a request to send some comics via my connection then to ORCA (Organized Readers of Comics Associated) from SkyWalker Ranch to a kid's cancer benefit. So after sending out like 3000, I got a thank you letter signed by George that also instructed me to go see the film.

At that time, a friend of mine was also dealing with brain cancer and he was a huge Star Wars and sports figure geek and collector. He really wanted to go to see the film, and his wife and oldest daughter were both nurses ... so the four of us went. Now, I never figured on anything other than maybe a credit in the end film credits. And that would've been cool enough ... but those credits were the smallest and fastest rolling I'd ever seen. So I dismissed the whole matter. My friend, Steve...he died a few weeks later. But we enjoyed that film together and I'm glad to have seen it with him.

Now a bunch of weeks pass... and I'm in Toys R Us looking for a birthday present for my oldest grandson. As I'm like most comic book readers, I walk down through the action figure aisle ... and I'm looking at all the Episode One figures on display. Then I spot it! Looking up I see the starship captain figure that wasn't identified by name in the film. The name "Ric Olie" is just too much a coincidence and then it all comes together. It was George's way of thanking me. Like "Ric Olie" giving young Anakin Skywalker his first flying lesson, I had been giving kids (and kids with cancer via Lucas' charity event) their first comic books. That's what ORCA did. We pumped comics into schools, hospitals, and we created some of the first library outreach efforts to put comics and sequentially driven books on library shelves as early as 1994. Our free comics giving away efforts actually pre-date Diamond's FCBD efforts. And truth further be told, my contacts with Diamond back then heavily touted our efforts with suggestions for getting them to work with us in placing comics even on the slightly damaged, yet readable level, places where ORCA had tread. Then Joe Field and Diamond created FCBD. Were those things related? I don't know. Most of us that worked within ORCA at the time thought so, and it was a good thing.

Anyway, I bought all those "Ric Olie" figures that day. And I later found out from a toy collector/dealer that of the two most rare figures of that film were the "Rick Olie" one and a Queen Amadala figure in some different, more elaborate costume. 'Course, my love of Star Wars and all things George Lucas has never waned.

Thanks for letting me share this here, Grant. It is a pleasure being here on your message board.

[PatrickG]

Though I haven't contributed to this thread, I've been reading from the start and decided to see what effect this thread is having outside of CBR.

Then I found this. Enjoy:

http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/interviews2.asp?intID=290

My favourite quote:

Geez. Was that an interview or a suicide note? Hm. It would appear that he canceled more than just a convention last year... Sounds like the person who was supposed to kick the chair for him wouldn't sign an NDA.

[Gail Simone]

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/theearthtoys_1930_56578198

Nope. "Ric Olié", according to this thread: http://www.grantbond.com/bulletin/viewtopic.php?t=29&sid=276a6b11bf971c4bbdf6aecbcbf63d0d

There are many more to be found, just google for "olney ric olie"... he likes to spread the word.

This version is a lot more like what he told us at the con. That there was a figure with a vaguely similar name and he imagined the connection. At one point he actually said that he was NOT saying it was true, just that it COULD be.

Later, he tells it in a different way, as if it's absolutely no question based on him. I think, as usual, he's full of it.

It's a progression of bullshit, you see it over and over again in the ORCA bullshit updates.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Ronee, I'll just ask you straight up.

Are you aware of ANY of the creators getting their full payment as promised during your time as Rick's PR person?

Gail

[KevinTBrown]

Wow.... When I went to bed last night, this thread was at about 3600 replies.

Anyway, to Mssrs. Waid, Busiek, Hamner, Isabella and Shaw!, and especially Ms. Simone: If ANY of you show up at the Chicago Convention this year, I will gladly buy you a drink or 5. You're all class in dealing with someone who is classless.

To the chickshit who walks like... well, like a chicken: Olney, either man up and answer straight forward questions or admit you're too cowardly to answer them. By not answering this simple questions (Who is your attorney? Did you pay for Gail's husband's airfare?) you're just proving everyone right that you're a despicable piece of trash..... By avoiding the questions, by being a fucking asshole to EVERYONE on here, and by alienating EVERYONE in the comics industry, you're doing yourself no favors.

I, for one, am very glad you're not showing this year at Chicago Con. I'm not a viloent man, but in your case I'm not sure I wouldn't be willing to make an exception. be that as it may, I'm sure I would be behind a very, very, very long line of individuals who would want their shot at you first. But you're no longer worth it.

So either be a man and do the right thing or continue to be a little pussywhipped, pissant, poor excuse for a human being who is wasting the air he breathes, and one who doesn't know when he's lost. Not just lost, but lost in the most humiliatingly way. There's no redemption for you. No one will forgive or forget.

No amount of time in purgatory will ever make up for the pain and anger you have caused. I can only hope I am there when I see you finally fall to your knees in stark realization that you're DONE.

[PatrickG]

Interestingly, a google and wikipedia search reveals that Rick Olié is a heavily mocked figure in Star Wars fandom, often called "Mr. Obvious" or "Captain Exposition". He has very few lines in the only Star Wars film he appears in but each one states something absurdly obvious.

"They hit the shield generator!"

"More droids, up ahead!"

"The planet is like one big city!"

Apparently this carried over into the novels and so Olié is a frequently mocked/reviled figure in Star Wars fandom...

Huh.

[Lester C.]

I made up "wankstank" just for you Cam. Y'know I love you.

Wankstank:eek:

[mroakley]

The funniest thing about this entire diatribe of Olney Meltdown, is that he keeps coming back for more, and keeps on putting his balls in front of the freaking hammer just before it drops!

Now I never used to be an "Olney-basher" but when you end up waiting for a month for an NDA for the ICC, and then when it arrives it's for freaking Tightlip Entertainment, that to me was one of my first clues to get the heck outta dodge.

So, I never signed the NDA, and apparently Rick forgot about that fact until this year.......

But I digress. I've replied a few times in this forum, and ya know? I'm not sure why I keep coming back.

I think it's like being a pedestrian walking by a car wreck. You know people are screwed up in there, but you can't help but rubberneck. I can't help but keep laughing at the missives that (as Cully Hammer put it.....REEK) puts up here.

I dunno, I think I'm gonna go back to my lurking mode for a while...........I'm enjoying this a bit too much as I switch my mood stabilizers.

[Paul Newell]

Interestingly, a google and wikipedia search reveals that Rick Olié is a heavily mocked figure in Star Wars fandom, often called "Mr. Obvious" or "Captain Exposition". He has very few lines in the only Star Wars film he appears in but each one states something absurdly obvious.

"They hit the shield generator!"

"More droids, up ahead!"

"The planet is like one big city!"

Apparently this carried over into the novels and so Olié is a frequently mocked/reviled figure in Star Wars fandom...

Huh.
Does anyone else, when watching the movie, imagine the character smoking a "Camberwell Carrot"?

Or is it just me...

[PatrickG]

Gail doesn't drink but I seem to recall that she LOVES orange soda.

(Sorry, the only beverage I can remember Gail being associated with on these boards.)

Hey, Gail... I know you're not a caffeinated person but while we're waiting for the sleeping orca to freshen up and start ranting again, just curious: Have you tried Rumba?

It's an energy drink but it IS an orange soda with an orange juicy flavor. Rockstar also has a similar product. Curious how it compares to that Chinese orange soda you had.

[singoalla]

Then I spot it! Looking up I see the starship captain figure that wasn't identified by name in the film. The name "Ric Olie" is just too much a coincidence and then it all comes together. It was George's way of thanking me. Like "Ric Olie" giving young Anakin Skywalker his first flying lesson, I had been giving kids (and kids with cancer via Lucas' charity event) their first comic books. That's what ORCA did.]

~spittake~

Well, I just emailed George Lucas Education foundation about this, and we shall soon see if this is indeed true. Not to mention that any googling of Skywalker Ranch Children's Cancer Benefit, turns up exactly zero results.
You'd think something like that would be touted far and wide. It's good for business to be involved in sick children's benefits.

Gonna go see if there's any possibility of contacting even a janitor at Skywalker Ranch for help on this matter.

[Cam63]

I made up "wankstank" just for you Cam.

" Wankskank " works better, but you may make an honourary Aussie yet.

Y'know I love you.

Well, we have so much in common.

...I love me too !

[Cam63]

That guy right there?

That's my friend Mark Waid.

Goddamn, made of ROCK.

Gail

Go easy when you hug him next time.

[Cam63]

Darth Sidious?

:D

Nah, it was Captain Arse Olie.

[Cully Hamner]

Mornin', everyone. I see that we've not had a drive-by from the Reek since I've been away...

[Cam63]

In my own defence, that's the reek from all those politicians we corral into the Parliamentary triangle as a community service to the rest of the country, not me personally.

I'd even offer to drive Cam in my own car to prove it, but I'm afraid of getting knocked out by the beer fumes.

I could be useful, you know. Just point me out to your kids and say, " See ? This is what happens when you don't eat your veggies ! ...and he's only 24 ! "

I bet they clean their plates that night.

[Corrina]

Scott...I'm just enjoying the buzz of being listed with you, Kurt, and Mark as old news. I mean, next to you guys, I'm a sidebar at best.



But a sidebar with lightning powers. :)

[Cam63]

Mornin', everyone. I see that we've not had a drive-by from the Reek since I've been away...

Yeah, but we had a visitation from Ricky Ricardo's ghost, who's not happy.

[Cully Hamner]

Well, if you ask him why, he might 'splain it to you.

[Typo Lad]

Never get food from a sidebar. You never know how long it's been there.

[PatrickG]

Yeah, but we had a visitation from Ricky Ricardo's ghost, who's not happy.

Lucy's got some 'splain' to do.

And so does Little Ricky.

[kadymae]

Nope. Nice try though. Have a nice life. :rolleyes:

Back to Rick's chronic need to feel like a 'player' in the industry. All you have to do is read his bullshit emails and blogs...he goes to HILARIOUS lengths to seem important and to have even the most tenuous connection to actual comics pros, which he will never be.

Probably his funniest post here was the one about how he never tried to be in with comics professionals. Anyone who talks with him for five minutes knows he'd give his last breath trying to convince passersby that he actually is known in the industry. As I said, we were held hostage after the con for two hours while he talked about the SADDEST and most pathetic little meetings with comics pros. Maybe that smell was more desperation than B.O.

Gail

The sad thing is, it's easy to become a known quantity and respected name amongst pros.

Hell, look at Richard and CAPE.

Or in Vegas, there's a small con called Anime Vegas. They've gotten some huge voice actor names to come. They got two well known mangaka to come. They got a company to premere an anime there.

And how did they do this in under 5 years? They're well organized, well run, and word has gotten out that they honor their obligations.

[Cam63]

Interestingly, a google and wikipedia search reveals that Rick Olié is a heavily mocked figure in Star Wars fandom, often called "Mr. Obvious" or "Captain Exposition". He has very few lines in the only Star Wars film he appears in but each one states something absurdly obvious.

"They hit the shield generator!"

"More droids, up ahead!"

"The planet is like one big city!"

Apparently this carried over into the novels and so Olié is a frequently mocked/reviled figure in Star Wars fandom...

Huh.

Did he ever say, " By the Force, I'm one smelly bastard ! " and the others nod in agreement ?

[singoalla]

If I ever get a reply back from that janitor at Skywalker Ranch, Rick's sure gonna have some "splain' " to do.

[Cam63]

~spittake~

Well, I just emailed George Lucas Education foundation about this, and we shall soon see if this is indeed true. Not to mention that any googling of Skywalker Ranch Children's Cancer Benefit, turns up exactly zero results.
You'd think something like that would be touted far and wide. It's good for business to be involved in sick children's benefits.

Gonna go see if there's any possibility of contacting even a janitor at Skywalker Ranch for help on this matter.

Heh. I await with much anticipation.

[Charles RB]

Then I found this. Enjoy:

http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/interviews2.asp?intID=290QUOTE]

Oh dear.

I see this quote:

[QUOTE]I also spearheaded the efforts that created pathways for comic-books and sequentially driven graphic novels and trades to gain acceptance in public libraries and schools with success.

Am I right in thinking this is crap?

[Cam63]

[QUOTE=Paul Newell;4215251]
Then I found this. Enjoy:

http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/interviews2.asp?intID=290QUOTE]

Oh dear.

I see this quote:



Am I right in thinking this is crap?

A herd of laxative dosed elephants couldn't pass that much crap.

[wishlish]

Folks, I think it's time to take the Rick Olney show to television.

I called Rick's local news station, News-10, at 1-866-4NEWS10 (their web site is www.news10now.com). I explained the situation briefly. Rick Olney created TLE, similar to a Marvel Comics-style company, and then left tens of thousands of dollars in freelancer invoices go unpaid. Then, he got on this thread and mocked the unpaid. I also briefly mentioned the NDA scam.

I do believe their news team is interested. If you're someone Rick owes money to, it might be worth calling and adding your story to the whole thing. I would ONLY call if you're a debtor; the simpler we keep this thing, the more likely it'll be aired.

The people of Mohawk, NY need to know that Rick Olney lives among them. Let's make that happen, shall we?

[Typo Lad]

Wishlist,

That's an interesting idea.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Yeah, right. I'm sure he did that for you.

Ray's post was the first time I recall him ever posting anything at YABS. He's not a regular here. I'm sure you're as wrong in that conclusion as you are in everything else.

[Cam63]

Have you seen the clothes peg and gas mask sales in that area, Wishlist ?

I think they may already know.





...Thank you and good night !

[Paul Newell]

Am I right in thinking this is crap?
You bet. When would he find the time to focus on it when he has all that big game hunting and fly fishing to do?

[AIPman1]

I'd like to take a moment to get everyone's attention. Tony and others made mention of a need for creators yesterday, a CBLDF/BBB as a protective layer, or place to focus to provide info and checking on other companies. I expressed that the SPA would be interested in helping there.

Today, I post the following, in the hopes that people will actually follow up on it and allow the need and idea to become an actual resource and place that newbies can be directed to as the place they need to go to orientate, learn the ropes, go to if they get into a situation and need advice and resources to set things right...
--------------------------------
There are a number of things that the SPA has built over the years that have made a difference for publishers, but one thing has become painfully obvious: The Self Publishing Network needs a way to know who are honest, decent people, and a way for helping stop those that aren't from preying upon the newbies that haven't been around the block enough yet.

We've seen creators get lied to and not paid.

We've seen printers take $$ and not deliver.

We've seen people lie and slander to discredit good people, to protect their own ability to keep preying upon others.

In a recent article I wrote for the Kick Start newsletter (#134) asked what the SPA should become. What could the LOGO be placed on to MEAN something?

We want to have part of the SPA membership mean that you are commited to fair business practices. We want to identify those things, and provide resources and legal advice and perhaps even a fund to use when things go wrong.

It fits as part of our Hall Of Fame mindset, and more. So first, I want to identify who thinks that our starting work in this area is a good idea. Then, if it seems like we have the support for it, we will diligently and methodically grow the SPA into what it needs to be.
--------------------------------
So that post is the first post in a thread at the SPA. Click to it here:
http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,137/topic,2323.0/

I hope that anyone that has opinions and voices they want heard in the creation of an overall resource will click over to participate. This includes the poster that had links to groups already doing parts of things...we'd like to follow up on it and in parts we can, work together with other organizations. The main goal is to get a place that houses all the information needed in one easy to find place.

We are currently re-working our entire How-To section for content in the creation-of-books side of things...the SPA has a long history of providing resource...we think with a bit of pro-level moral support and participation, we can make it what is needed to help fend off people who lie and cheat before they get so out of hand.

[PatrickG]

[QUOTE=Paul Newell;4215251]
Then I found this. Enjoy:

http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/interviews2.asp?intID=290QUOTE]

Oh dear.

I see this quote:



Am I right in thinking this is crap?

It's just an overstatement.

Consider...

He probably went to a couple of libraries and filled out requests for graphic novels. He might have even argued for them. This scenario has played out dozens of times across the country, maybe hundreds.

And depending on the school, they may have taken a donation of comic books to get kids to read. Again, not hard to believe.

I don't doubt the truth of THIS particular statement.

However, I'd like to see the look on a librarian's face when Rick says he won't return "V for Vendetta" until they sign an NDA.

[TonyIsabella]

Sounds like a good start, Ian. As soon as I get some work off my desk, I'll visit the website.

Tony

[Typo Lad]

So this is going to be like a Union of sorts?

[Alan Lynch]

I do believe their news team is interested. If you're someone Rick owes money to, it might be worth calling and adding your story to the whole thing. I would ONLY call if you're a debtor; the simpler we keep this thing, the more likely it'll be aired.
If this happens, someone has to get the video online for those of us fortunate enough not to live anywhere near Olney. I'd love to see him try and get a reporter to sign an NDA.

[Puma]

[QUOTE=Paul Newell;4215251]
Then I found this. Enjoy:

http://www.jazmaonline.com/interviews/interviews2.asp?intID=290QUOTE]

Oh dear.

I see this quote:



Am I right in thinking this is crap?

Let's see, I'm a librarian, I'm the selector for graphic novels, Eight years ago I brought in a local comic dealer to talk to my system, a dealer who was then invited to speak at the state wide library convention about GNs in libraries, I read the professional journals....first I heard of this Olney person was this thread.

I'm calling it bullshit.

[KevinTBrown]

I think right now "NDA" for Olney should stand for "No, dumbfuck, answer!"

[AIPman1]

Sounds like a good start, Ian. As soon as I get some work off my desk, I'll visit the website.

Tony

Appreciate that Tony. I think, with the Small Press Idol contest getting started right now, and all the attention that brings to the SPA each year...we can smoothly make people aware of these efforts, while giving exposure to the new talents the contest brings out.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Folks, I think it's time to take the Rick Olney show to television.

I called Rick's local news station, News-10, at 1-866-4NEWS10 (their web site is www.news10now.com). I explained the situation briefly. Rick Olney created TLE, similar to a Marvel Comics-style company, and then left tens of thousands of dollars in freelancer invoices go unpaid. Then, he got on this thread and mocked the unpaid. I also briefly mentioned the NDA scam.

I do believe their news team is interested. If you're someone Rick owes money to, it might be worth calling and adding your story to the whole thing. I would ONLY call if you're a debtor; the simpler we keep this thing, the more likely it'll be aired.

The people of Mohawk, NY need to know that Rick Olney lives among them. Let's make that happen, shall we?

Please do!!!!!

[EdContradictory]

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/theearthtoys_1930_56578198

Nope. "Ric Olié", according to this thread: http://www.grantbond.com/bulletin/viewtopic.php?t=29&sid=276a6b11bf971c4bbdf6aecbcbf63d0d

There are many more to be found, just google for "olney ric olie"... he likes to spread the word.
The name "Ric Olie" is just too much a coincidence and then it all comes together. It was George's way of thanking me. Like "Ric Olie" giving young Anakin Skywalker his first flying lesson, I had been giving kids (and kids with cancer via Lucas' charity event) their first comic books.

OH MY GOD. :eek: He had no confirmatoin of it at all.

He's an insane jumping-to-conclusions lunatic. And a liar to boot.

[AIPman1]

So this is going to be like a Union of sorts?

Well, it would be very hard to BE a union and make any sort of demands on publishers that do not want to participate, so a UNION isn't really a good description. Traditionally, we try to provide member-only tools that would make creators and publishers WANT to be members. I don't see any benefit in saying "If a publisher DOESN'T join the SPA, they are no good". But we can make having SPA membership a thing to WANT to have, and provide the service to everyone regardless of how deeply involved they are...so that it is both usefull, and non-exclusive.

[Typo Lad]

So more like the Masons?

[EdContradictory]

I see this quote:

[QUOTE]I also spearheaded the efforts that created pathways for comic-books and sequentially driven graphic novels and trades to gain acceptance in public libraries and schools with success.

Am I right in thinking this is crap?
As grammar or sentiment?

Anyway, it's crap both ways.

I can't believe he thinks his oganization ORCA, that no one has ever heard of, had any impact on mainstream acceptance of comic books. Wait, sorry, mainstream acceptance of sequentially driven graphic novels.

There's nothing worse than a dumb guy who thinks they know how to talk smart.

And here's a quote from Star Wars that DOES apply to Olney:

C-3PO: "I'm standing here in pieces, and you're having delusions of grandeur!"

[AIPman1]

This is the CURRENT SPA Logo:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/images/logo/ALT PROUD SPA - BLACK copy.jpg

I'd be willing to update it/ change it...but the goal would be to have a seal that means something to other creators and the fans, that they know anyone displaying the seal on or in their book supports the efforts we make.

[AIPman1]

So more like the Masons?

i think a brick just fell on my head....

[EdContradictory]

This is the CURRENT SPA Logo:

http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/images/logo/ALT PROUD SPA - BLACK copy.jpg

I'd be willing to update it/ change it...but the goal would be to have a seal that means something to other creators and the fans, that they know anyone displaying the seal on or in their book supports the efforts we make.

Why a dime?

[Scott Shaw!]

[QUOTE=Charles RB;4215539]

Let's see, I'm a librarian, I'm the selector for graphic novels, Eight years ago I brought in a local comic dealer to talk to my system, a dealer who was then invited to speak at the state wide library convention about GNs in libraries, I read the professional journals....first I heard of this Olney person was this thread.

I'm calling it bullshit.

I know Puma and she really knows what she's talking about. Her speaker, ATLANTIS FANTASYWORLD's Joe Ferrara, is like the Bizarro-Olney, squared.

Aloha,

Scott!

[Karl J. Barnes]

Why a dime?

Possibly in conection with his Dimestore site?

[Typo Lad]

i think a brick just fell on my head....
Did it hurt?

[AIPman1]

Why a dime?

my company's name is Dimestore.....................

[AIPman1]

Did it hurt?

how do you sue a brick?

[Typo Lad]

Sue the building!

Remember the old Peanuts strips where Sally would sit there talking to the schoolhouse? I always liked those.

Seriously though, it sounds like a comic version of the BBB.

[EraserX]

Well...I think I've been blown off enough at this point. I'm not going to join in on the suckpit of name-calling or restating what has become very, very, obvious by now, but I will say this. I stressed on multiple occasions that even though we could really use the money owed to me for services rendered, the most important thing was being kept up to date. Nearly two weeks ago I was told that I would be given information about payment in the next 24-48 hours. So, I started waiting again. Sunday of this week, I wrote asking for an update after no response for two weeks. And I waited...and waited. I watched pages upon pages of name calling and childish internet banter. But for all the time spent calling names on message boards, there was no time to write me back. This morning, I finally found a note in my inbox reassuiring me that the importance of the situation was understood. Yet, still no comment whatsoever regarding payment for services rendered nearly five months ago.

Now I will say this...I have worked off and on in mainstream comics for a decade now. Comic books have been my primary income for the last three years. During this time, I've had hardships. I've had people break their word and contracts with me. I've had deaths in my family. And, like most everyone else I know, there have been times where I was not able to pay the people who had worked for me on time. I'm not proud of that fact and I can't even blame every instance on something or someone else. Sometimes, it was just mismanagement on my own part. I've been on both sides of the coin. Having been there and feeling like complete garbage knowing that someone was depending on the money I didn't have to give them. it's very easy to see when someone considers it a priority to pay. When I've owed others money, I answer their questions to the best of my ability. I kept them informed if things happened to change. And lastly, as soon as I was able, I paid them for the services rendered without making personal attacks on them and never once had had to deal with being insulted, outted, or shamed online. It's a simple formula really. You deal with people honestly and sincerely and you get to keep your reputation in tact, even if you trip up now and then. That's all I ask of anyone I work with. Why is that so difficult?

[EdContradictory]

my company's name is Dimestore.....................

Gotcha.

I'd swap out "In God We Trust" on the dime with your url.

[TCJohnson]

I think right now "NDA" for Olney should stand for "No, dumbfuck, answer!"

Ok, that one made me laugh out loud. Or maybe closer to a guffaw.

[Mrs. Dimestore]

Gotcha.

I'd swap out "In God We Trust" on the dime with your url.

I think that is a great idea Ed.:)

[Matt Doc Martin]

Well...I think I've been blown off enough at this point. I'm not going to join in on the suckpit of name-calling or restating what has become very, very, obvious by now, but I will say this. I stressed on multiple occasions that even though we could really use the money owed to me for services rendered, the most important thing was being kept up to date. Nearly two weeks ago I was told that I would be given information about payment in the next 24-48 hours. So, I started waiting again. Sunday of this week, I wrote asking for an update after no response for two weeks. And I waited...and waited. I watched pages upon pages of name calling and childish internet banter. But for all the time spent calling names on message boards, there was no time to write me back. This morning, I finally found a note in my inbox reassuiring me that the importance of the situation was understood. Yet, still no comment whatsoever regarding payment for services rendered nearly five months ago.

Now I will say this...I have worked off and on in mainstream comics for a decade now. Comic books have been my primary income for the last three years. During this time, I've had hardships. I've had people break their word and contracts with me. I've had deaths in my family. And, like most everyone else I know, there have been times where I was not able to pay the people who had worked for me on time. I'm not proud of that fact and I can't even blame every instance on something or someone else. Sometimes, it was just mismanagement on my own part. I've been on both sides of the coin. Having been there and feeling like complete garbage knowing that someone was depending on the money I didn't have to give them. it's very easy to see when someone considers it a priority to pay. When I've owed others money, I answer their questions to the best of my ability. I kept them informed if things happened to change. And lastly, as soon as I was able, I paid them for the services rendered without making personal attacks on them and never once had had to deal with being insulted, outted, or shamed online. It's a simple formula really. You deal with people honestly and sincerely and you get to keep your reputation in tact, even if you trip up now and then. That's all I ask of anyone I work with. Why is that so difficult?


Of course, by mentioning this, you are now part of his attorney's "happy meal smile" plan.

You may be part of the mythical 4 checks sent out recently, but, given the previous attempts at "mailing" pRick used, I doubt it.

[EraserX]

Of course, by mentioning this, you are now part of his attorney's "happy meal smile" plan.

You may be part of the mythical 4 checks sent out recently, but, given the previous attempts at "mailing" pRick used, I doubt it.

Who said anything about Rick Olney? I was simply relaying my own experiences with nonpayment. ;)