Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Kozemp]

You couldn't be further from the truth, but I'm the last one to burst your bubble in trying to figure out what makes me tick, sir.

Now this is a guess - just, shall we say, an educated guess - but I'm guessing whatever it is that makes you tick is black, slimy, emits a vaguely sulfurous odor and has "Manufactured in Hell" stamped on it.

You really are a sorry excuse for a human being. Plus you're a lying fuck. And, lest I forget, you're also apparently an idiot. Way to know your military history, supposed military man/lying fuck.

JLK
not manufactured by the minions of Satan

[Charles Knight]

Sociological viewpoint?! Mr. Carthan get off of it. The internet is the only thing protecting Mr. Olney's person.

However, as someone who's been filing incorporation papers for a friend's company, from a legal viewpoint I find this extremely fascinating. If Mr. Olney has apparently been conducting business all these years, ostensibly collecting money from ticket buyers and sponsors and what not; and he's been contracting individuals and business to do work for him, I have to ask:
- What is the legal/corporate entity under which he conducts business?

- When he collects money whose account does it go into?

- When he "pays" money whose account does it come out of?
If Ms. Bourgeois or Mr. Tobolski and others were hired by him to do work on a regular basis, NYS DoL might be sorely pressed to construe it as an employee employer relationship and not an independent contractor relation (I have much experience with this). In that case Mr. Olney would be found not only in breach of contract but also of tax fraud because when some one works for you you're liable for a portion of their taxes. And remember, Dept of Labour can conclude that an employee-employer relation exists/existed regardess of any contracts signed by the two parties if the terms of hire meet certain specific criteria.

- Is TLE registered with the NY Dept of State as a business entity? If not, there are a slew of violations right there.

I'd be very curious to find out.

-Das

Does the NY Dept of State have an on-line register?

[Lester C.]

Anyone else notice how he uses more swear words and insults the more agitated he gets?



Wow. Nice PS job. It'd work better if you posted an actual photo of this thing hanging on YOUR WALL.
If you defended my country, I'd migrate.
You're a disgrace to any army you (may) have ever served in. And since you're so happy taking pot-shots at other people's girth: For a marine, you've done a fine job of letting your body (a soldier's best weapon) and your reputation go straight to hell.



And if Anyone feels threatened by that, they can go here: Internet Crime Complaint Center (http://www.ic3.gov/)

You know, since there's a part of the Feds in the US that actually handles that sort of stuff. :)

Regarding the internet crime center link I'm curious as to how you feel that you have been defrauded?

[TCJohnson]

And sometimes he just does the work for us.

I deffinitely forgive you for Booster Gold. ;)

[DocAbsurd]

You couldn't be further from the truth, but I'm the last one to burst your bubble in trying to figure out what makes me tick, sir.

Can I try!?!

Stupidity?

Insanity?

Lack of moral ethics?

Over-riding desire to live up to your own title 'Most Hated Man Near Comics'?

[Sarah Beach]

Dreadstar, thank you for confirming that I had been clear, even though Himself couldn't see "the point".

Rick, for the record: I have run not only a successful con, but a profitable one.
I have worked as an officer of an (educational) not-for-profit organization for over 10 years. I am no longer an officer, just a member.
I have worked as an editor on the quarterly journal for that organization for the same 10 years.

Those are my credentials buddy boy, and if you want to know the organization and journal, it's the Mythopoeic Society (www.mythsoc.org), and the journal Mythlore.

Not only did I edit, I contributed, both as artist and article writer.

Dude, I HAVE CREDITS. What do you have in print besides a "newsletter"???
And how profitable were your conventions?

[Gail Simone]

You know what, after seeing him post that shit to Joanne, I'm thinking of the first ever real Yabs ban.

He can't even keep his own moronic lies straight, and at this point, we've seen his measure, and it's about as low as you can get.

The fact that no one, and I mean NO ONE, is defending him should say all you need to know. When he started trashing Val Staples and Chuck Dixon, people couldn't be held BACK from defending their reps and integrity, despite the threat of Rick's muppet lawyer. That's because they have REAL friends, and have earned their reps for integrity.


But no one sticks up for Reeky Rick, not here, not on myspace, not anywhere.

I think it may be time to cut the idiot free. I don't care what he says about me, not in the slightest. But calling a woman a douche bag and a sick bitch, and posting his threatening lunacy...

I don't know. What do you guys think? I wouldn't miss him. His entertainment value is fast drying up, and he's never going to pay the people he owes...


Maybe a vote. :)

Gail

[Wil Radcliffe]

Now this is a guess - just, shall we say, an educated guess - but I'm guessing whatever it is that makes you tick is black, slimy, emits a vaguely sulfurous odor and has "Manufactured in Hell" stamped on it.

Now that is pretty darn clever! Good one! :)

[Magneto_X]

"Slight bruise"?

My daddy taught me one thing: Hit the soft parts with your hand; for the hard parts, use a utensil. Lucky for Dickless there's 3000 miles standing between us.

But I'm sure someday somebody will get fed up with his disgusting antics and provide the broken jaw that he needs. Sadly, it probably won't be me.

Honestly, I don't see how anybody could hurt him worse than he's hurt himself.

[MacQuarrie]

3---None of you are going to see a dime out of this guy unless he's forced to file bankruptcy and maybe in a few years you'll receive pennies on the dollar of what you're owed. He's obviously out of the business (at least) at this point, so everybody's lost something here. I know he's an infuriating asshole, but stop letting him wind you up. That seems to be the only thing that he has going on right now.
He's not winding me up. I'm trying to wind him up. I'm hoping to give him a heart attack and kill him.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Makes no difference to me. None.

Its no shock I have doubts about your company. When you alienate retailers ( who will carry your books ) , pros in the industry you'll need or want to work with...whats left ? Your biting the hand that feeds you.

Play this song some....maybe the message will sink in...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmmVmKmw-2A

[Scott Shaw!]

If you count a couple of hours in a holding cell while awaiting booking. Otherwise, no. I was making a joke, though truth to tell, I expect that if I did go to your town and punch you in the mouth, they'd hold a parade in my honor and give me the key to the city.

You're a cancer, you know that?

Jim, if it'd make you feel any better, punch Chad Frye in the nose! They look alike and Chad's much closer.

http://cagle.msnbc.com/hogan/reubens/reubens2005/images/frye_price.JPG

Wow, a fat guy who taunts fat people. Talk about self-hatred.

Aloha,

Scott!

P.S.: It's not the Van Of Justice...it's the Troll Tank! -- SS!

[Lester C.]

You know what, after seeing him post that shit to Joanne, I'm thinking of the first ever real Yabs ban.

He can't even keep his own moronic lies straight, and at this point, we've seen his measure, and it's about as low as you can get.

The fact that no one, and I mean NO ONE, is defending him should say all you need to know. When he started trashing Val Staples and Chuck Dixon, people couldn't be held BACK from defending their reps and integrity, despite the threat of Rick's muppet lawyer. That's because they have REAL friends, and have earned their reps for integrity.


But no one sticks up for Reeky Rick, not here, not on myspace, not anywhere.

I think it may be time to cut the idiot free. I don't care what he says about me, not in the slightest. But calling a woman a douche bag and a sick bitch, and posting his threatening lunacy...

I don't know. What do you guys think? I wouldn't miss him. His entertainment value is fast drying up, and he's never going to pay the people he owes...


Maybe a vote. :)

Gail

As a mod you can ban him from just this forum. I know that because Paper Girl, you know back when she was posting:( threatened to do that to Red Berens back when he was posting.:(

[Matt Doc Martin]

You know what, after seeing him post that shit to Joanne, I'm thinking of the first ever real Yabs ban.

He can't even keep his own moronic lies straight, and at this point, we've seen his measure, and it's about as low as you can get.

The fact that no one, and I mean NO ONE, is defending him should say all you need to know. When he started trashing Val Staples and Chuck Dixon, people couldn't be held BACK from defending their reps and integrity, despite the threat of Rick's muppet lawyer. That's because they have REAL friends, and have earned their reps for integrity.


But no one sticks up for Reeky Rick, not here, not on myspace, not anywhere.

I think it may be time to cut the idiot free. I don't care what he says about me, not in the slightest. But calling a woman a douche bag and a sick bitch, and posting his threatening lunacy...

I don't know. What do you guys think? I wouldn't miss him. His entertainment value is fast drying up, and he's never going to pay the people he owes...


Maybe a vote. :)

Gail

May I pull the switch?

offer him a choice. HE can post the name of his attorney and stay, and apologize for being such a worthless scumbag, or he can get kicked.

[Gail Simone]

Jim, if it'd make you feel any better, punch Chad Frye in the nose! They look alike and Chad's much closer.

http://cagle.msnbc.com/hogan/reubens/reubens2005/images/frye_price.JPG

Wow, a fat guy who taunts fat people. Talk about self-hatred.

Aloha,

Scott!

P.S.: It's not the Van Of Justice...it's the Troll Tank! -- SS!


I wonder if the Van of Justice smells as bad as Reeky Rick.

Gail

[Ronée]

I just want to say that though he has READ my column and letter to him, he has yet to respond. The email he told me was coming has not, in fact, showed up on ANY of my email accounts (that seems to be a trend with him) AND he refuses to directly answer me regarding who his lawyer is and how I can contact him AND where ONE satisfied employee is.

Does anyone else notice how he will answer everyone else but not me? What are you scared of Rick? Come by my column and answer my questions!

[Mike Bullock]

You know what, after seeing him post that shit to Joanne, I'm thinking of the first ever real Yabs ban.

He can't even keep his own moronic lies straight, and at this point, we've seen his measure, and it's about as low as you can get.

The fact that no one, and I mean NO ONE, is defending him should say all you need to know. When he started trashing Val Staples and Chuck Dixon, people couldn't be held BACK from defending their reps and integrity, despite the threat of Rick's muppet lawyer. That's because they have REAL friends, and have earned their reps for integrity.


But no one sticks up for Reeky Rick, not here, not on myspace, not anywhere.

I think it may be time to cut the idiot free. I don't care what he says about me, not in the slightest. But calling a woman a douche bag and a sick bitch, and posting his threatening lunacy...

I don't know. What do you guys think? I wouldn't miss him. His entertainment value is fast drying up, and he's never going to pay the people he owes...


Maybe a vote. :)

Gail

I agree. At this point it's been proven he's a deadbeat who thinks integrity is an extraneous luxury he can ill afford. Wasting bandwidth with more of his infantile jibber-jabber won't do anyone any good, other than further proving something we all know...

[Kozemp]

Maybe a vote. :)

Gail

How selective can a ban be? Can you, say, ban him from a single thread? Because, god, that would be funny.

I feel obligated to say, though, Gail: you've been a paragon of virtue throughout all of this, especially for letting him continue his sick, insane rantings. The "no-ban" policy is a good thing. It speaks well of you and the people here. It would be a loss to... tarnish? lower?... your standards because of him.

In all honesty, my vote is: stick to your guns. Let him rant. You're still the better person no matter what.

JLK

[Magneto_X]

In what isn't even close to one of the biggest ironies in this thread, I am going to contribute in a non-Olney poster's defense the words of...

Of all people...

Micah Wright.

From Stormwatch: TA, I believe #2, on the basics of self-defense.

"Go for the joints. Don't stop until they're dead."

I remember this so clearly because I heard a little while after reading it that someone actually GOT this advice in a self-defense class.

Perhaps the instructor, Micah Wright, and the sad, insane Mr. Olney all served together.

JLK
who does not claim to have ever been in the armed services

As disappointed as I am with him being revealed as a liar for the military service at least Micah was a goddamn great writer!


<<<<------misses Stormwatch: Team Achilles

[orcafresh]

My husband's 'scumbag' sensor went off way before we even got to Herkimer, regarding Rick.
It should've. You probably sat next to him on the flight.:rolleyes:

I should have listened, but I felt I had to honor my promise to attend even after Rick started lying about paying on time.

"Gail" you would think your lying story would get old. Again, a freakin' rocket scientist could figiure out the holes between you and hubby flying ALL THE WAY FROM OREGON to NEW YORK state on your own dime? No, I don't think so. That's a lie.

For the record, my husband doesn't need me to defend him. He's a MAN, Rick. You should try being one someday.

Gail

I don't know your husband, "Gail" ... So your assertions that he's a man will have to stand. I really don't care either. This isn't about him so much as it is your trying to convence everyone that you're BOTH stupid enough to fly from Oregon to New York State ... paying your own tickets ... only to BITCH nearly
4 years later over a ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR shortcoming that you had because you failed to send in your food receipts from the hotel Saturday night once you got to Syracuse after riding there in Dennis Kininger's stinky car, according to you.

It simply doesn't add up.

[Corrina]

Okay, now that pleasantries are said -- I'll simply tell you that I served for a 6 year obligation in the early 1970s. I even have my Honorable Discharge hanging on my living room wall to prove it, along with a few pictures. I have my warrants, merritorius masts, and my ribbons on a plaque in my office. I have talked of my year in the Army National Guard years later in the 1980s too! Surprised that can't be googled. lol



Post a scan of your DD-214 and I'll believe you.

[TCJohnson]

Contrary to Tcj's comments, I kept it to myself (except for a few friends, most of whom were there and knew exactly what an incompetent moron Rick is) until he started knocking the reputation of Chuck Dixon, Val Staples, and other actual pros he'd stiffed.


Still have no idea what comments I made. Got thefeeling I got slammed for something but unsure on what.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Still have no idea what comments I made. Got thefeeling I got slammed for something but unsure on what.

I think she meant The Comics Journal.

[MacQuarrie]

Jim, if it'd make you feel any better, punch Chad Frye in the nose! They look alike and Chad's much closer.

http://cagle.msnbc.com/hogan/reubens/reubens2005/images/frye_price.JPG

Wow, a fat guy who taunts fat people. Talk about self-hatred.

Aloha,

Scott!

P.S.: It's not the Van Of Justice...it's the Troll Tank! -- SS!
But I like Chad. He's a nice guy. Not a lying weaseltoad with the IQ of kelp.

[Charles RB]

Bite me, Brit!

Hell no, you'd rot my teeth!

...and did you just try to insult me by calling me British? That's... dumb.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I just want to say that though he has READ my column and letter to him, he has yet to respond. The email he told me was coming has not, in fact, showed up on ANY of my email accounts (that seems to be a trend with him) AND he refuses to directly answer me regarding who his lawyer is and how I can contact him AND where ONE satisfied employee is.

Does anyone else notice how he will answer everyone else but not me? What are you scared of Rick? Come by my column and answer my questions!

He dodges mine too.

He fears truth.

[neko onna]

My father was a Marine. My brother was a Marine. My uncle was a Marine who died on Okinawa. I know of no Marine who would engage in the sort of behavior exhibited here.

Moreover, the "iKILL" image did look like a threat to me.

I also cannot even being to fathom why any Marine would call people plebes, or why any Marine would discuss getting his stripes "on his back". The word plebe specifically refers to a first year student at the US Military or Naval Academy. It is often used affectionately as well, and the academy has a website for parents of students that even uses the word "plebe" in its web address.

No Marine talks of getting his stripes "on his back". I don't even know what that means.

Using the limited information available, I have also been unable to find anyone in the United States Marine Corps public records matching the name Rick or Richard Olney in the age range, or in the geographical area he is supposed to live in from information gleaned from this website. I would be willing to do a more extensive search if anyone has more specific information, such as birth date or full name.

The only Richard Olney I could find was born in 1945 or 1946 and does not match Rick Olney's description.

While he may have been a Marine, at this point, I tend to doubt it. Has anyone considered the age he claims to be and the age he would have to have been given statements regarding service in Viet Nam? Do the math...

If he were, it would be of interest to know why he is no longer a Marine. It should be possible to find out why he was dischared.


www.adistantoil.com/blog
Hey Colleen great points

I have to chime in here too...Rick..no matter how many medals and ribbens you have on your wall does not make you a Marine. Being a Marine is more than just a title you can throw around..it is a way of life and a sence of self respect and respect for others.You sir do not appear to have any of that...My father is rolling over in his grave to think you and he served under the same flag. My Father served in Vietnam a few years before "Rick" claims to have. And you are right the numbers are kinda fishy.

Now I have not read all of this I think I got to page 35 before I had to get back to work today..and I do intend to read the rest of it. Every single word.

I do know something about shifty charcters who make claims of checks in the mail.. and this is so disgusting to see. I really hope this can come to a head and guys like this can be taken down. There is no room for this kind of crap in the world.

[orcafresh]

I just want to say that though he has READ my column and letter to him, he has yet to respond. The email he told me was coming has not, in fact, showed up on ANY of my email accounts (that seems to be a trend with him) AND he refuses to directly answer me regarding who his lawyer is and how I can contact him AND where ONE satisfied employee is.

Does anyone else notice how he will answer everyone else but not me? What are you scared of Rick? Come by my column and answer my questions!

The night is young, sweety. Hang in there! I'm waiting to see if "Gail's" playtime is nearly over. It is usually the mark of a person in a moderating capacity that clearly displays bully tactics when facing the truth of a matter that bans the person NOT afflicted with Werthum's SUPERMAN COMPLEX.

[Typo Lad]

I really think we need to ignore him now.

This thread isn't doing anything productive anymore.

As he has not answered any of my simple, politely worded questions, I'm done with him.

[Fresco]

This is like grade school lunch room bullies... on crack!!!

Why not go trip the guy, then kick him while he is down and rub the mashed potatoes in his face? Just take a number and be patient... since there are 200+ pages full of people here and elsewhere, busy taking shots at the guy. More than 200 against one... yeah, that's a fair fight.

I never heard of the guy until this soap opera starting spilling onto other message boards on the net. Clearly he has done stuff to warrant this reaction-- but if he is sooooo bad... why so many folks I have so much respect for are stooping down to this level makes me pause. Why is it so important to prove the guy wrong, when the writing is already on the wall-- and crystal clear?

Congratulations one and all...
it's really brave to take shots at someone who is being held down by the sheer volume of the righteous. Mob mentality is not a pretty sight.

There are NO saints here.

[Gail Simone]

How selective can a ban be? Can you, say, ban him from a single thread? Because, god, that would be funny.

I feel obligated to say, though, Gail: you've been a paragon of virtue throughout all of this, especially for letting him continue his sick, insane rantings. The "no-ban" policy is a good thing. It speaks well of you and the people here. It would be a loss to... tarnish? lower?... your standards because of him.

In all honesty, my vote is: stick to your guns. Let him rant. You're still the better person no matter what.

JLK


I appreciate it...and the truth is, I believe strongly in not banning people.

But this is another kettle entirely at this point...threats, gay-bashing, woman-hate...and you know what? If there's one guy on Earth I was thrilled to get away from, because he didn't have a clue how to shut up about himself, it's Rick.

And this can still be a very nice clearinghouse for the many, many lies he's told and people he's cheated.

Gail

[Charles RB]

You are talking about Britain, right? The country that held off the Germans for years whilst being carpet bombed in WWII?

Hey, we had Spike Milligan serving, the Axis never stood a chance. ;)

I deffinitely forgive you for Booster Gold. ;)


I'll forgive him for that when we get more Empire. Lots more. In fact, scrap half the DCU and replace it with Empire.

[Kozemp]

As disappointed as I am with him being revealed as a liar for the military service at least Micah was a goddamn great writer!


<<<<------misses Stormwatch: Team Achilles

Yeah... that whole thing was a big shame, because he was a hell of a writer. STA was a great book, I was terribly sorry at the time when all that shit went down.

Couple months ago I was rereading my old Queen and Country hardcovers and I came across the "introduction" he did and I was sitting there and realized it was entirely lies. So sad.

Man, I wouldn't have thought an industry this small could contain not one but TWO douchebags of such proportions. Of course, I work in the theatre, so I'm not sure I have any right to talk about douchebag-filled industries...

JLK

[sk716]

You know what, after seeing him post that shit to Joanne, I'm thinking of the first ever real Yabs ban.

He can't even keep his own moronic lies straight, and at this point, we've seen his measure, and it's about as low as you can get.

The fact that no one, and I mean NO ONE, is defending him should say all you need to know. When he started trashing Val Staples and Chuck Dixon, people couldn't be held BACK from defending their reps and integrity, despite the threat of Rick's muppet lawyer. That's because they have REAL friends, and have earned their reps for integrity.


But no one sticks up for Reeky Rick, not here, not on myspace, not anywhere.

I think it may be time to cut the idiot free. I don't care what he says about me, not in the slightest. But calling a woman a douche bag and a sick bitch, and posting his threatening lunacy...

I don't know. What do you guys think? I wouldn't miss him. His entertainment value is fast drying up, and he's never going to pay the people he owes...


Maybe a vote. :)

Gail

As much as I'd like to see the fucker gone, don't ban him. Don't break your no ban policy for this waste of oxygen.

Let Cronin do it. :D

[Paul D. Storrie]

What doesn't add up is your expectation that the complaints regarding non-payment by numerous reputable professionals are outweighed by your poorly worded, ill considered rants to the contrary.

This last one sounds like a bad regurgitation of the Chewbacca Defense from South Park.

PDS

[orcafresh]

I have to chime in here too...Rick..no matter how many medals and ribbens you have on your wall does not make you a Marine.

What the feck would you know? You can't even spell ribbons. lol

I was a Marine's Marine. That is all any of you need to know. I served my country and completed my 6 year obligation after enlisting willingly during Viet Nam.

Beyond that, check out TightLip Entertainment's books to get the nitty gritty on real heroes.

[Momma Absurd]

Bite me, Brit! Your country would fall down around your ears before you'd defend your neighbors or self. I know, I've read your crappola over the last 6 years.


My, My, Mr.Onery, pretty talk coming from .......ooooo wait, I was going to say a gentleman, but my hysterically laughing soul can't quite allow that.....

Anyhow, I just got off the phone with the base and your name isn't found...why is that? I hate to speculate and say that you are probably lying about this too, but sometimes my bitchy self just has to do what it has to do.......

O wait, I should have requested the search be on dick, prick and lying sack of shit Olney, maybe that would have proven fruitful.......

You amuse me Olney, I like playing the cat while batting my mouse around before I strike, are you ready yet? Robert, (my attorney) says hes really going to stick it to your ass, and make you pay for all the paper his paralegals has gone through while copying all your archives, you left him a nice paper trail you fucktarded guttersnipe.

Oh, and I do want you to know this as well, as a rule I generally don't make fun of people or their misfortunes I was raised better than you were, but I did allow my students to take your name and anagram it for fun the other day.....
they came up with..........CORNY LIE, RICK LYE ON, CORNY LIKE, and the list goes on but I was so proud of them I gave them all 10 bonus points, one student said he would call you NECRO, but that made me gag.....

I LOVE YOU RICK OLNEY, WHEN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT MERGES WITH MINE I WILL SEND YOU A THANK YOU CARD, ADDRESSED TO WHICHEVER PENAL LOCATION THEY FEEL IS BEST FOR YOUR SANITY AND THE SAFETY OF PEOPLES DOMESTICATED PETS......

Momma "SEMPER FI" Absurd

[Lester C.]

The night is young, sweety. Hang in there! I'm waiting to see if "Gail's" playtime is nearly over. It is usually the mark of a person in a moderating capacity that clearly displays bully tactics when facing the truth of a matter that bans the person NOT afflicted with Werthum's SUPERMAN COMPLEX.

Given the fact that Gail hasn't banned anyone in the years and years that her poplar forum has been in existence I don't see how this particular point of yours is relevant.

[Gail Simone]

This is like grade school lunch room bullies... on crack!!!

Why not go trip the guy, then kick him while he is down and rub the mashed potatoes in his face? Just take a number and be patient... since there are 200+ pages full of people here and elsewhere, busy taking shots at the guy. More than 200 against one... yeah, that's a fair fight.

I never heard of the guy until this soap opera starting spilling onto other message boards on the net. Clearly he has done stuff to warrant this reaction-- but if he is sooooo bad... why so many folks I have so much respect for are stooping down to this level makes me pause. Why is it so important to prove the guy wrong, when the writing is already on the wall-- and crystal clear?

Congratulations one and all...
it's really brave to take shots at someone who is being held down by the sheer volume of the righteous. Mob mentality is not a pretty sight.

There are NO saints here.


Fresco, how do you feel when someone doesn't pay you for your hard work (or in my case, my own money out of pocket), lies to you for months and months, and then threatens to sue you when you go public?

This isn't a flame war where one person hurt another's feelings, for Christ's sake. It's a guy who has been cheating creators, creators like you, for years, and getting away with it.

If that has never happened to you, well, good, and I hope you continue to be fortunate.

Gail

[Typo Lad]

Kozemp,.

I can think of two others, offhand, that I have had personal dealings with.

[orcafresh]

Post a scan of your DD-214 and I'll believe you.

Corrina, bite me with your schoolgirl, bullshit. :rolleyes: What do you think we're playing here -- Show and Tell? :D

[OzBat!]

Okay! it's taken me an hour and a half to read the 15 or so pages that have appeared since my last night. I've woken up to a shitstorm, reported posts, and the supermods asking questions about this thread.

Before I get to the important stuff, here's a couple of thread facts:

1. This aint the biggest thread on CBR. Far from it. There's several threads already on YABS alone that have passed 5000 posts, and others on the Community board, Rumbles, etc.

2. We have a policy of locking threads and starting new ones for the same subject when they reach 5000 posts, but that's only from a historical viewpoint as CBR used to go buggy when the database had problems handling more than 5000 posts in a thread. That aint the case anymore.

Sorry Mr Olney, but your personal effect on the servers and message boards functionality here at CBR is still NIL.

3. The double postings and server lockups are not related to this thread. Jonah's got his webmunkies looking at the problem, it might be related to some blogs on the same server... he's said he'll be moving those, so hopefully we'll see some changes to the page reloads soon.

Okay, the important stuff! I've got reported posts. Oh yesssss indeedy! Good fun! And Supermods asking me if we should be banning one Mr Richard Olney. I'm inclined to agree, for his constant character smearing with sexually-related innuendo and graphic (pictorial) threats. On the other hand, it's plainly pathetic, but useful in a court of law. HOWEVER!! I do not want anybody on the board's opinion on whether we do or not. We don't need another 10 pages of posts arguing the merits of it or not. This is gail's board, her decision is final. Just be aware that gail didn't ask for it, the supermods have stepped in due to reported posts.

IF we ban him, we're more than capable of doing an IP ban, so he won't be able to step around that using different user names.

And that concludes my daily moderatorial duties. Thankyou!

[Matt Doc Martin]

This is like grade school lunch room bullies... on crack!!!

Why not go trip the guy, then kick him while he is down and rub the mashed potatoes in his face? Just take a number and be patient... since there are 200+ pages full of people here and elsewhere, busy taking shots at the guy. More than 200 against one... yeah, that's a fair fight.

I never heard of the guy until this soap opera starting spilling onto other message boards on the net. Clearly he has done stuff to warrant this reaction-- but if he is sooooo bad... why so many folks I have so much respect for are stooping down to this level makes me pause. Why is it so important to prove the guy wrong, when the writing is already on the wall-- and crystal clear?

Congratulations one and all...
it's really brave to take shots at someone who is being held down by the sheer volume of the righteous. Mob mentality is not a pretty sight.

There are NO saints here.

Ummm...first of all, no one claims to be a saint. Secondly, he brings it on himself. Fair questions were asked and bullshit insults were returned. He is a man unhinged. But thank you for your input.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

This is like grade school lunch room bullies... on crack!!!

Why not go trip the guy, then kick him while he is down and rub the mashed potatoes in his face? Just take a number and be patient... since there are 200+ pages full of people here and elsewhere, busy taking shots at the guy. More than 200 against one... yeah, that's a fair fight.

I never heard of the guy until this soap opera starting spilling onto other message boards on the net. Clearly he has done stuff to warrant this reaction-- but if he is sooooo bad... why so many folks I have so much respect for are stooping down to this level makes me pause. Why is it so important to prove the guy wrong, when the writing is already on the wall-- and crystal clear?

Congratulations one and all...
it's really brave to take shots at someone who is being held down by the sheer volume of the righteous. Mob mentality is not a pretty sight.

There are NO saints here.

Actually many have decided to do what Kurt Busiek has decided. You need to re-read the entire whole thread to get the entire story. I know its long but its best to get the whole thread and go from there.

Personally I don't care if Rick ever publishes his work. I just wish he'd pay those who worked for him. Because I know I hate being stood up on money and I can understand how hurtful broken promises can be.

[Gail Simone]

The night is young, sweety. Hang in there! I'm waiting to see if "Gail's" playtime is nearly over. It is usually the mark of a person in a moderating capacity that clearly displays bully tactics when facing the truth of a matter that bans the person NOT afflicted with Werthum's SUPERMAN COMPLEX.

Christ, is that even English?

You ought to take your English teachers and beat the shit out of them, Rick. They did you no favors.

Gail

[Ronée]

The night is young, sweety. Hang in there! I'm waiting to see if "Gail's" playtime is nearly over. It is usually the mark of a person in a moderating capacity that clearly displays bully tactics when facing the truth of a matter that bans the person NOT afflicted with Werthum's SUPERMAN COMPLEX.what the fuck does that mean? You are not even answering anything I ask, what does it have to do with ANYONE else? And do not condescend to me and call me sweety or anything but Ms. Bourgeois.

[Typo Lad]

I'm starting to fall for Momma Absurd. This is wrong.

[Matt Doc Martin]

What the feck would you know? You can't even spell ribbons. lol

I was a Marine's Marine. That is all any of you need to know. I served my country and completed my 6 year obligation after enlisting willingly during Viet Nam.

Beyond that, check out TightLip Entertainment's books to get the nitty gritty on real heroes.

Says the man who failed spelling Meritorious.

[Gail Simone]

I didn't realize that about the threads, Oz. I thought they still went buggy at 5000.

Okay then, I won't start a new one.

Gail

[Perry Holley]

I'm thinking of the first ever real Yabs ban.
It would certainly be justified. Even aside from the threats and other truly despicable behavior, he's pretty much redefined "trolling".

On the other hand, as I've mentioned to Cronin, the more he spews his bile, the more he hurts himself, and the more ammo he gives to those who will be pursuing legal action against him.

[MacQuarrie]

It should've. You probably sat next to him on the flight.:rolleyes:



"Gail" you would think your lying story would get old. Again, a freakin' rocket scientist could figiure out the holes between you and hubby flying ALL THE WAY FROM OREGON to NEW YORK state on your own dime? No, I don't think so. That's a lie.
What's hard to believe about it? It's a 5 hour flight; it's not like going to New Zealand or something. You invited her to your "con" and she agreed to come. She paid out of pocket because you promised to reimburse her.

What exactly are you trying to say? That she stayed longer than the one day of your event and had a vacation, so you aren't really responsible for paying what you promised? Or are you suggesting that somebody else paid their air-fare? Are you suggesting that you did?

I don't see any holes in their story.

I don't know your husband, "Gail" ... So your assertions that he's a man will have to stand. I really don't care either. This isn't about him so much as it is your trying to convence everyone that you're BOTH stupid enough to fly from Oregon to New York State ... paying your own tickets ... only to BITCH nearly
4 years later over a ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR shortcoming that you had because you failed to send in your food receipts from the hotel Saturday night once you got to Syracuse after riding there in Dennis Kininger's stinky car, according to you.

It simply doesn't add up.

Speaking of holes in stories, you have stated several points here that have been refuted over and over again. The stinky car was yours. The hundred dollars was a figure you pulled out of your own ass. The required receipts were an excuse you came up with later for beign a deadbeat. Learn to frigging read.

Better yet, have a heart attack and die. Nobody will cry.

[orcafresh]

Fresco, how do you feel when someone doesn't pay you for your hard work (or in my case, my own money out of pocket), lies to you for months and months, and then threatens to sue you when you go public?

This isn't a flame war where one person hurt another's feelings, for Christ's sake. It's a guy who has been cheating creators, creators like you, for years, and getting away with it.

If that has never happened to you, well, good, and I hope you continue to be fortunate.

Gail

That's bullshit, "Gail" .. simple lies started by you to confuse the original issue of Chuck Dixon BREAKING his NDA. It was all to bring all the other players in. You've proven nothing. Your logic on how you were cheated out of $100 dollars doesn't hold up either. Again, lie after lie after lie. Least Fresco sees the truth somewhat.

[DungeonmasterJim]

Yeah, I'm right there with you! Storm the castle! burn the monster!

Apparently Mr. Olney's faulty memory is kicking in again. The 'monster' had the brain of a criminal. The 'monster' also killed a child even if it was manslaughter.

I still have 7 pages to read as I write this but I wonder if that smell in New York was Mr. Olney?

DM Jim aka "James Roberts"

[Gail Simone]

What doesn't add up is your expectation that the complaints regarding non-payment by numerous reputable professionals are outweighed by your poorly worded, ill considered rants to the contrary.

This last one sounds like a bad regurgitation of the Chewbacca Defense from South Park.

PDS


Paul, I love ya. You just made me laugh hard.

What's your next brilliant comic coming up, by the way, may I ask?

Gail

[TCJohnson]

Corrina, bite me with your schoolgirl, bullshit. :rolleyes: What do you think we're playing here -- Show and Tell? :D



Well, we would but you have nothing to tell.

And Corrina is one of the smartest, classiest women I have ever met. It amazes me that you can even understand her posts.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Okay! it's taken me an hour and a half to read the 15 or so pages that have appeared since my last night. I've woken up to a shitstorm, reported posts, and the supermods asking questions about this thread.

Before I get to the important stuff, here's a couple of thread facts:

1. This aint the biggest thread on CBR. Far from it. There's several threads already on YABS alone that have passed 5000 posts, and others on the Community board, Rumbles, etc.

2. We have a policy of locking threads and starting new ones for the same subject when they reach 5000 posts, but that's only from a historical viewpoint as CBR used to go buggy when the database had problems handling more than 5000 posts in a thread. That aint the case anymore.

Sorry Mr Olney, but your personal effect on the servers and message boards functionality here at CBR is still NIL.

3. The double postings and server lockups are not related to this thread. Jonah's got his webmunkies looking at the problem, it might be related to some blogs on the same server... he's said he'll be moving those, so hopefully we'll see some changes to the page reloads soon.

Okay, the important stuff! I've got reported posts. Oh yesssss indeedy! Good fun! And Supermods asking me if we should be banning one Mr Richard Olney. I'm inclined to agree, for his constant character smearing with sexually-related innuendo and graphic (pictorial) threats. On the other hand, it's plainly pathetic, but useful in a court of law. HOWEVER!! I do not want anybody on the board's opinion on whether we do or not. We don't need another 10 pages of posts arguing the merits of it or not. This is gail's board, her decision is final. Just be aware that gail didn't ask for it, the supermods have stepped in due to reported posts.

IF we ban him, we're more than capable of doing an IP ban, so he won't be able to step around that using different user names.

And that concludes my daily moderatorial duties. Thankyou!

As much as Olney wants banned I wouldn't do it. I mean we can ignore him and let his statements go. In fact I a have a PM to send...

[Kozemp]

This is like grade school lunch room bullies... on crack!!!

Why not go trip the guy, then kick him while he is down and rub the mashed potatoes in his face? Just take a number and be patient... since there are 200+ pages full of people here and elsewhere, busy taking shots at the guy. More than 200 against one... yeah, that's a fair fight.

I never heard of the guy until this soap opera starting spilling onto other message boards on the net. Clearly he has done stuff to warrant this reaction-- but if he is sooooo bad... why so many folks I have so much respect for are stooping down to this level makes me pause. Why is it so important to prove the guy wrong, when the writing is already on the wall-- and crystal clear?

Congratulations one and all...
it's really brave to take shots at someone who is being held down by the sheer volume of the righteous. Mob mentality is not a pretty sight.

There are NO saints here.

I...

Oh my god!

I mean, holy fucking SHIT! WOW! I have never SEEN anything like that!

That dude's horse is like 40 feet high! 50, almost! Someone save us before we are trampled underneath it! And let us steel ourselves should he choose to mount it again!

JLK
in case you missed the joke, you're a jackass

[Sarah Beach]

Fresco -- NOBODY "tripped him", and NOBODY is "holding him down".

If he's on the ground, it's because he fell there himself. In point of fact, if anything, the posters here are trying to get him to STAND UP, and be the "professional" he keeps claiming he is.

You'll notice, if you've looked through even a quarter of the posts in this thread, that he doesn't do it. And many people, who depended on the income they thought they were going to be getting under contract, have been stiffed.

Pray tell, how is calling him to book, "piling on him"?

[Mark Waid]

Robert, (my attorney) says hes really going to stick it to your ass, and make you pay for all the paper his paralegals has gone through while copying all your archives...

Who do I make the check out to?

[TCJohnson]

I think she meant The Comics Journal.

Um, OK.....

[orcafresh]

What's hard to believe about it? It's a 5 hour flight; it's not like going to New Zealand or something. You invited her to your "con" and she agreed to come. She paid out of pocket because you promised to reimburse her.

What exactly are you trying to say? That she stayed longer than the one day of your event and had a vacation, so you aren't really responsible for paying what you promised? Or are you suggesting that somebody else paid their air-fare? Are you suggesting that you did?

I don't see any holes in their story.

Nor would I, were I you, and up her ass as far as you are in this forum. :rolleyes:



Speaking of holes in stories, you have stated several points here that have been refuted over and over again. The stinky car was yours. The hundred dollars was a figure you pulled out of your own ass. The required receipts were an excuse you came up with later for beign a deadbeat. Learn to frigging read.

Again, you were not there ot involved. The car belonged to Dennis Kininger. I didn't even ride in that car with them to Syracuse that night.

Better yet, have a heart attack and die. Nobody will cry.

Yeah, you'd like that would you, piece of shit.

[Draconomicon]

My husband's 'scumbag' sensor went off way before we even got to Herkimer, regarding Rick. I should have listened, but I felt I had to honor my promise to attend even after Rick started lying about paying on time.

For the record, my husband doesn't need me to defend him. He's a MAN, Rick. You should try being one someday.

Gail

Well, I can only say that no 'Man' would talk to a woman the way Mr. Olney does.
It is disgraceful and shows a lack of maturity and ability to handle conflicts in a way adults should.

[sk716]

I'm starting to fall for Momma Absurd. This is wrong.

I know! It's she great!

Can we keep her?

[orcafresh]

Fresco -- NOBODY "tripped him", and NOBODY is "holding him down".

If he's on the ground, it's because he fell there himself. In point of fact, if anything, the posters here are trying to get him to STAND UP, and be the "professional" he keeps claiming he is.

You'll notice, if you've looked through even a quarter of the posts in this thread, that he doesn't do it. And many people, who depended on the income they thought they were going to be getting under contract, have been stiffed.

Pray tell, how is calling him to book, "piling on him"?

I love how bullies think, pack up, tear at their prey ... and then act like they're innocent. Poor Sarah...

[Matt Doc Martin]

That's bullshit, "Gail" .. simple lies started by you to confuse the original issue of Chuck Dixon BREAKING his NDA. It was all to bring all the other players in. You've proven nothing. Your logic on how you were cheated out of $100 dollars doesn't hold up either. Again, lie after lie after lie. Least Fresco sees the truth somewhat.

All the other "players" so far are additional people YOU ADMIT TO OWING MONEY TO.

And there is NO proof that Dixon signed an NDA. Likewise, there is no proof you were in the Marines. Or that TLE is more than your personal wet-dream.

Come to think of it, how come the police haven't knocked on my door? More of your bogus threats? 7 1/2 years later, and you do the same shit. Fuckwit.

[Mike Bullock]

That's bullshit, "Gail" .. simple lies started by you to confuse the original issue of Chuck Dixon BREAKING his NDA. It was all to bring all the other players in. You've proven nothing. Your logic on how you were cheated out of $100 dollars doesn't hold up either. Again, lie after lie after lie. Least Fresco sees the truth somewhat.


What truth is that, Rick? That you owe the Lions, Tigers and Bears creative team THOUSANDS of dollars you refuse to pay, stating some erroneous grip on contract law as a reason you have the right to not pay us what you owe us?

[Gail Simone]

what the fuck does that mean? You are not even answering anything I ask, what does it have to do with ANYONE else? And do not condescend to me and call me sweety or anything but Ms. Bourgeois.

Heh.

You rock, Ms. Bourgeois.

Gail

[orcafresh]

Well, I can only say that no 'Man' would talk to a woman the way Mr. Olney does.
It is disgraceful and shows a lack of maturity and ability to handle conflicts in a way adults should.

She's genderless here. You fall at her feet and worship her. I won't!:rolleyes:

[Fresco]

If that has never happened to you, well, good, and I hope you continue to be fortunate.

Gail


I agree with you Gail,

and wish I didn't know how it feels to have gotten the short end of the stick in my carreer... but I have many times over. I'm like the poster child of short-end-of-the-stick. :cool:

This clearly has taken on a life of its own, it quickly became beating a dead horse-- what, something like 150 pages ago? Here we all are, 200 pages later and it has gone from craning our head to see the wreck on the freeway, to just plain ugly. No matter how justified, I simply find no joy in all of this.

[orcafresh]

Paul, I love ya. You just made me laugh hard.

What's your next brilliant comic coming up, by the way, may I ask?

Gail

Yeah, Paul, I love ya too!
You just made me laugh hard.

[DocAbsurd]

That's bullshit, "Gail" .. simple lies started by you to confuse the original issue of Chuck Dixon BREAKING his NDA. It was all to bring all the other players in. You've proven nothing. Your logic on how you were cheated out of $100 dollars doesn't hold up either. Again, lie after lie after lie. Least Fresco sees the truth somewhat.

Hey, Blubber. It was you not paying me after nearly 2 years that brought this creator in. It was you not paying Ronee (I can still call her 'Ronee') that brought her in. The list is quite literally endless.

No-one got dragged in here. We don't fit into your conspiracy theory, no matter how hard you insist.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I agree with you Gail,

and wish I didn't know how it feels to have gotten the short end of the stick in my carreer... but I have many times over. I'm like the poster child of short-end-of-the-stick. :cool:

This clearly has taken on a life of its own, it quickly became beating a dead horse-- what, something like 150 pages ago? Here we all are, 200 pages later and it has gone from craning our head to see the wreck on the freeway, to just plain ugly. No matter how justified, I simply find no joy in all of this.

Then look away.

[Gail Simone]

That's bullshit, "Gail" .. simple lies started by you to confuse the original issue of Chuck Dixon BREAKING his NDA. It was all to bring all the other players in. You've proven nothing. Your logic on how you were cheated out of $100 dollars doesn't hold up either. Again, lie after lie after lie. Least Fresco sees the truth somewhat.

Okay, Rick.

You refuse over and over again to answer simple questions.

Let's try one last time.


1) Did you pay my husband's airfare?

2) Did you ever pay the 100 you said was in the mail repeatedly?

3) Are there people at TLE that signed your NDA and still haven't been paid?


Answer them in the best English you can, all right?

Just those three questions.

Gail

[Corrina]

Well, we would but you have nothing to tell.

And Corrina is one of the smartest, classiest women I have ever met. It amazes me that you can even understand her posts.

He just answered that way because he doesn't know what a DD-214 is.

[Ronée]

I agree with you Gail,

and wish I didn't know how it feels to have gotten the short end of the stick in my carreer... but I have many times over. I'm like the poster child of short-end-of-the-stick. :cool:

This clearly has taken on a life of its own, it quickly became beating a dead horse-- what, something like 150 pages ago? Here we all are, 200 pages later and it has gone from craning our head to see the wreck on the freeway, to just plain ugly. No matter how justified, I simply find no joy in all of this.So don't read it!! Seems quite simple to me... anyone else confused?

Rick. I will use short words so as not to discombobulate you. (uh I mean... mess your head up) Lawyer name. Lawfirm name. one employee willing to defend you. Current PR person.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Okay, Rick.

You refuse over and over again to answer simple questions.

Let's try one last time.


1) Did you pay my husband's airfare?

2) Did you ever pay the 100 you said was in the mail repeatedly?

3) Are there people at TLE that signed your NDA and still haven't been paid?


Answer them in the best English you can, all right?

Just those three questions.

Gail

Please answer

[orcafresh]

Who do I make the check out to?

Make the check out to "Robert", Mark. Whoever the feck that is.

[sk716]

He just answered that way because he doesn't know what a DD-214 is.

I got that feeling, too. I really don't think he has the first clue.

[Wil Radcliffe]

What truth is that, Rick? That you owe the Lions, Tigers and Bears creative team THOUSANDS of dollars you refuse to pay, stating some erroneous grip on contract law as a reason you have the right to not pay us what you owe us?

But, Mike, didn't you hear? 4 lucky creators may already be winners! The prize van just went out today with their checks! You could be one of those lucky creators!

[Gail Simone]

I agree with you Gail,

and wish I didn't know how it feels to have gotten the short end of the stick in my carreer... but I have many times over. I'm like the poster child of short-end-of-the-stick. :cool:

This clearly has taken on a life of its own, it quickly became beating a dead horse-- what, something like 150 pages ago? Here we all are, 200 pages later and it has gone from craning our head to see the wreck on the freeway, to just plain ugly. No matter how justified, I simply find no joy in all of this.

Neither do the many people who have not been paid, including those people who are being threatened with legal action to keep them shut up, Fresco.

It's keeping quiet about it that allowed Rick Olney to continue to cheat and lie.

Curse the whistleblowers all night long, they did their part, they held up their end, and he cheated them all over the holidays. There are many yet to come forward.

I have many things I'd RATHER be doing, but after seeing him lie to and cheat some of the best people in the industry, I got fed up. I would do the same if someone cheated you.

So maybe we're coming at this from a different angle, but I can't see tut tutting the people who had the guts to come forward and say they've been cheated. I'm sorry, but I can't.

Gail

[orcafresh]

So don't read it!! Seems quite simple to me... anyone else confused?

Rick. I will use short words so as not to discombobulate you. (uh I mean... mess your head up) Lawyer name. Lawfirm name. one employee willing to defend you. Current PR person.

Ronee, clearly, and you already know this -- That's on a need to know basis, as in INVOLVED in any action. If and when you mange to unfuck yourself, we can talk about what you'll need to sign before you legally get compensated for what you earned from July until you resigned. Although, becaise you neglected to give the 30 day notice, there WILL be some adjustment to those monies you have coming to you. I shall email you in a little while.

[Paul D. Storrie]

That's bullshit, "Gail" .. simple lies started by you to confuse the original issue of Chuck Dixon BREAKING his NDA.

Except that it's been established that Chuck never signed an NDA.

Now I know you're going to say that Chuck is lying, that he did sign one and probably that he kicked your puppy at some point. Only I've known Chuck for a while now and I don't buy that for a second.

So what we really have here is you getting defensive and then abusive because people have started to publically call you on your bad business practices.

You seem to think that if you just say something repeatedly and vehemently, it will suddenly become true. Or at least people will believe it's true and leave you alone. I don't see that happening here.

Instead, you're going to get a bunch of lawsuits filed against you for non-payment while you're busy threatening to file lawsuits for breaching non-disclosure agreements that, from the sound of it, haven't been breached anyway.

I'd wish you good luck, but I wouldn't mean it.

It has, however, been educational watching you self-immolate.

PDS

[TCJohnson]

Make the check out to "Robert", Mark. Whoever the feck that is.

Ok....that one doesn't even come close to making sense.

[Kozemp]

Yeah, you'd like that would you, piece of shit.

To quote Lisa Simpson, Mr. Olney, you've gotten the facts right but missed the point entirely.

Clearly MacQ would, at the very least, receive the knowledge of your demise with at least some small element of pleasure.

The important part of that statement - the part your addled brain selectively ignored - is the statement "nobody would cry," indicating that not only would he be pleased to learn that you have shuffled off this mortal coil, but that none gathered here would so much as give a moment's thought to your passing.

That's how much of a wretched, filthy excuse for a human being you are.

Suffice it to say that while I have no specific wish for anything to happen to you, your death would bring me no sorrow. You know why?

Because you're an embarassment. You are a blemish on the comics community. You are a blemish to ALL creative communities. You make the rest of us look bad. As a creator and an artist and one who tries to bring entertainment to and provoke thought in others, your conduct sickens me.

That is entirely aside from how much you sicken me and others as a human being in general.

Hell, if you died, I imagine there'd be a hell of a party someplace. And not in that good Irish wake sort of way.

JLK
who does not stiff the artists who work for him

[Gail Simone]

Okay, Rick.

You refuse over and over again to answer simple questions.

Let's try one last time.


1) Did you pay my husband's airfare?

2) Did you ever pay the 100 you said was in the mail repeatedly?

3) Are there people at TLE that signed your NDA and still haven't been paid?


Answer them in the best English you can, all right?

Just those three questions.

Gail


I'll make it easy for you, Rick, so you can be shown to have lied to a direct question.

Just answer the first one.

Go ahead. You've already claimed it twice.

Did you pay my husband's airfare?

Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

But, Mike, didn't you hear? 4 lucky creators may already be winners! The prize van just went out today with their checks! You could be one of those lucky creators!

Now this made me picture Ed McMahon and Publisher Clearing House ! :p

[Dedagda]

I got that feeling, too. I really don't think he has the first clue.

Oh! Oh! I uh...I uh...got nothin'

[Gail Simone]

Ronee, clearly, and you already know this -- That's on a need to know basis, as in INVOLVED in any action. If and when you mange to unfuck yourself, we can talk about what you'll need to sign before you legally get compensated for what you earned from July until you resigned. Although, becaise you neglected to give the 30 day notice, there WILL be some adjustment to those monies you have coming to you. I shall email you in a little while.

Heh. Anyone notice he says she 'resigned,' here, when he previously claimed he fired her?

The truth, Rick. Try it.

It's AWESOME.

Gail

[OzBat!]

The night is young, sweety. Hang in there! I'm waiting to see if "Gail's" playtime is nearly over. It is usually the mark of a person in a moderating capacity that clearly displays bully tactics when facing the truth of a matter that bans the person NOT afflicted with Werthum's SUPERMAN COMPLEX.Now this... THIS is funny!]

Who was it who replied to Mike Bullock's query about payment on another forum, and then LOCKED THE THREAD so there could be no reply?? HAHAHAHAHAAA!! Good one, Mr Olney!

[Ronée]

Ronee, clearly, and you already know this -- That's on a need to know basis, as in INVOLVED in any action. If and when you mange to unfuck yourself, we can talk about what you'll need to sign before you legally get compensated for what you earned from July until you resigned. Although, becaise you neglected to give the 30 day notice, there WILL be some adjustment to those monies you have coming to you. I shall email you in a little while.unfuck myself? Excuse me? I need to sign nothing. I did work for you. and even if I did sign your stupid contract, there is no 30 day notice clause in there and I have it in my possesion and can prove that. give me a fucking break.

[sk716]

Ronee, clearly, and you already know this -- That's on a need to know basis, as in INVOLVED in any action. If and when you mange to unfuck yourself, we can talk about what you'll need to sign before you legally get compensated for what you earned from July until you resigned. Although, becaise you neglected to give the 30 day notice, there WILL be some adjustment to those monies you have coming to you. I shall email you in a little while.

How the fuck is your lawyers name on a need to know basis?

Oh, wait, it's a fake lawyer, you don't have a name to give.

[DocAbsurd]

I love how bullies think, pack up, tear at their prey ... and then act like they're innocent. Poor Sarah...

Oh, shut up, Moby. You think your questionable business practices put you above us? You're like a sniper, trying to take creators down one at a time. Got enough of us in your cross-hairs? Your balls suddenly drop and you try taking down the professionals.

And look, Moby, there's more of that 'woe-is-me' shit you just blamed me of pulling. 'You're all bullies! wah-wah-wah! You hate me! wah-wah-wah! Someone rush to my defense so I can backwards-praise you, too.'

You got so many fucking double-standards, it's amazing you haven't become a contortionist.

No, wait; I've seen you explain the 'truth'.

[TCJohnson]

Ronee, clearly, and you already know this -- That's on a need to know basis, as in INVOLVED in any action. If and when you mange to unfuck yourself, we can talk about what you'll need to sign before you legally get compensated for what you earned from July until you resigned. Although, becaise you neglected to give the 30 day notice, there WILL be some adjustment to those monies you have coming to you. I shall email you in a little while.

Oh knows! Ronee isn't getting the money she was never going to get anyways! Oh knows!

Ronee, if you need a shoulder to cry on let me know. I know you must be devastated at this point.

[OzBat!]

The night is young, sweety. Hang in there! I'm waiting to see if "Gail's" playtime is nearly over. It is usually the mark of a person in a moderating capacity that clearly displays bully tactics when facing the truth of a matter that bans the person NOT afflicted with Werthum's SUPERMAN COMPLEX.Now this... THIS is funny!

Who was it who replied to Mike Bullock's query about payment on another forum, and then LOCKED THE THREAD so there could be no further reply?? HAHAHAHAHAAA!! Good one, Mr Olney!

[Perry Holley]

I'm starting to fall for Momma Absurd. This is wrong.If it's wrong, then I don't wanna be right.

[Gail Simone]

Except that it's been established that Chuck never signed an NDA.

Now I know you're going to say that Chuck is lying, that he did sign one and probably that he kicked your puppy at some point. Only I've known Chuck for a while now and I don't buy that for a second.

So what we really have here is you getting defensive and then abusive because people have started to publically call you on your bad business practices.

You seem to think that if you just say something repeatedly and vehemently, it will suddenly become true. Or at least people will believe it's true and leave you alone. I don't see that happening here.

Instead, you're going to get a bunch of lawsuits filed against you for non-payment while you're busy threatening to file lawsuits for breaching non-disclosure agreements that, from the sound of it, haven't been breached anyway.

I'd wish you good luck, but I wouldn't mean it.

It has, however, been educational watching you self-immolate.

PDS


I have email from a TLE associate where Rick admits that Chuck never signed an NDA.

So when he says Chuck signed one, he knows full well he's lying.

Gail

[MacQuarrie]

Nor would I, were I you, and up her ass as far as you are in this forum. :rolleyes:
I stand with people when they are right and part with them where they are wrong. It's called integrity. I hear the Marines believe in it. Too bad you never heard of it.

Again, you were not there ot involved. The car belonged to Dennis Kininger. I didn't even ride in that car with them to Syracuse that night.
Again, Gail has said over and over that Dennis' car is not the stinky one. She clearly stated that she rode in your car and it reeked. She also clearly stated that she was not talking about the ride to Syracuse, no matter how many times you try to confuse that point. Your car stinks. It stinks because you drive it and it smells like you.


Yeah, you'd like that would you, piece of shit.
Yes, I would. Can I send you some high-sodium, high-cholestrerol snacks?

Being called names by you is a badge of honor.

[Sarah Beach]

I love how bullies think, pack up, tear at their prey ... and then act like they're innocent. Poor Sarah...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!

Gosh, with all your harping about being in the Marines, I'd actually deluded myself into thinking you'd learned discipline, let alone gained the ability to take "rough stuff". You haven't seen me anywhere near "bully" level!!

And I'm not the one who owes many, many people serious money, peanut. Check the mirror.

Oh, and.... your attempt to condescend to Corrina??? I'd advise against it, peanut. I DO know that she has served in our country's forces, and knows how to handle weapons. Don't mess with her at all. Besides, she's a reviewer. Never insult the reviewers.

[neko onna]

What the feck would you know? You can't even spell ribbons. lol

I was a Marine's Marine. That is all any of you need to know. I served my country and completed my 6 year obligation after enlisting willingly during Viet Nam.

Beyond that, check out TightLip Entertainment's books to get the nitty gritty on real heroes.

And you are incapable of paying people the money they are owed for the work they have done. At least my mistake won't land me in bankruptcy court.

You wouldn't know a real hero if it kicked you in the ass. Marine's Marine..what a joke.

oh and by the way someone correct me if I am wrong here but what does an NDA have to do with paying the talent? It has to do with keeping the elements of the project being done under wraps until publication. Not letting the world no you are a cheapskate.

[Momma Absurd]

Make the check out to "Robert", Mark. Whoever the feck that is.



For someone who claims to be able to read, Robert is my attorney, but thats ok you will see him soon enough,..... right now though I am pouting Ricky Dicky wa dooooo, I threw the ball in your court and your not playing with me.....why won't you play with me? I will even let you go first.....please Dicky.........

Momma "Sarcasm HAS NEVER looked so good" Absurd

[Corrina]

Except that it's been established that Chuck never signed an NDA.



In the Dixonverse posts, Olney even ADMITTED Chuck didn't sign an NDA.

What Olney was claiming that Chuck needed to sign one BEFORE being paid. Even though payment was already overdue.

Olney claimed he told Chuck when contracted for the work that he'd have to sign an NDA before being paid. Now, that is he said/he said (though I believe Chuck Dixon) but what's not in dispute is that RICK OLNEY ADMITTED CHUCK DIXON NEVER SIGNED AN NDA.

When Chuck refused to sign one RETROACTIVELY and went public with the fact he and a bunch of creators hadn't been paid, Olney's response at Dixonverse was to claim that the "professional" thing to do was get a lawyer and sue for the non-payment. Going public about not being paid was 'unprofessional."

So because Chuck (and other creators) refused to sign an NDA after they weren't paid for contracted work, it became 'tied up' in legal concerns.

Nice circular illogic, yes?

[Gail Simone]

I want to hear you say it one time, for the record, Rick.

Did you pay my husband's airfare, as you've claimed here twice?

Gail

[Ian Boothby]

The ikill image crosses the line. Please just ban the guy. It's hard to stop a thread like this, it's like saying not to watch the car accident but you can continue planning legal action against him without him popping on to say how he won't be posting anymore then spewing some 5th grade "witty" comebacks and smiley faces. He's already hung himself with what he's posted (and that the evidence is stacked up against him), you don't need more posts from him and again the ikill graphic went way too far and is worrisome. It was a threat of violence and he needs to be banned. I admire Gail's policy of letting people speak their minds but threats can't be allowed.

[DocAbsurd]

I did those columns before he ever invented the necessity of an NDA or contract. The work completed can't be retroactively contracted.

C'mon, Moby, explain that away.

And while you're thinking on that, pay me my fucking money now.

[colleen]

Whether or not this person was a Marine is irrelevant to the issue of whether or not he is an honest man who pays his bills.

That said, it should be noted that Marine Corps headquarters is NOT at Quantico. The DC barracks is at 8th and I street in Washington, DC and the actual headquarters at the Pentagon. OCS school is at Quantico.

If he can't find his DD-214, we'll settle for the DD-217 and the location of his original training base, either PI or SD.

But, my doubt-o-meter is at high. Very high.

I am holding a very old copy of a Corps handbook in my hands. What is the title and what color is the cover?

What was his MOS number?



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Edited post.

[Paul D. Storrie]

Paul, I love ya. You just made me laugh hard.

What's your next brilliant comic coming up, by the way, may I ask?

Gail

With "Olney the Lonely" lobbing 'em like he is, it's barely work to make with the yucks!

Upcoming comics stuff includes a batch of books adapting mythological tales in graphic novel form (Hercules, Amaterasu, Robin Hood and Yu the Great. With awesome art by Steve Kurth, Ron Randall, Thomas Yeates and Sandy Carruthers), Gabriel: Angel of Destruction (part of Moonstone's Twilight Crusade project) and a very cool new super-hero project I'm developing with the ever-talented Jeremy Dale (http://www.jeremy-dale.com).

Plus I've got an Actionopolis illustrated prose book and a couple short stories that will be coming out in upcoming Moonstone prose anthologies.

Thanks for asking.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled "Rick Olney Meltdown" thread.

PDS

P.S. Cracked up the other day when R.O. sent me a Friend request on MySpace. Yeah, THAT'S gonna happen.

[Chris N]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TROLL1.jpg

Hey! That's my picture! Apparently Rick and I are good friends now.

I assume you consulted with your "lawyer" (and perhaps signed any appropriate NDA's) before using my likeness, especially in this context, which involves your business endeavours and potential profits.

This may count as defamation, in fact, as my likeness will be less marketable now that it has been associated with you. I will say more after consulting the dancing lawyer who lives in my head. Thank you. In the meantime, I am done with this thread.


for 10 minutes

[Matt Doc Martin]

Whether or not this person was a Marine is irrelevant to the issue of whether or not he is an honest man who pays his bills.

That said, it should be noted that Marine Corps headquarters is NOT at Quantico. It is at 8th and I street in Washington, DC. OCS school is at Quantico.

If he can't find his DD-214, we'll settle for the DD-217 and the location of his original training base, either PI or SD.

But, my doubt-o-meter is at high. Very high.

I am holding a very old copy of a Corps handbook in my hands. What is the title and what color is the cover?

What was his MOS number?



c

This I want to see him answer. Well, that and Gail's question.

And so he knows who I am talking about...."Gail"


*sigh*

[Paul D. Storrie]

Yeah, Paul, I love ya too!

And I just threw up in my mouth a little.

PDS

[Chris N]

And he called me a "poor chump". That's slander! Lawsuit, lawsuit!

[Gail Simone]

And I just threw up in my mouth a little.

PDS

Imagine if you had to SMELL him.

Gail

[DocAbsurd]

Moby's gone silent.

Mebbe he's checking to see if his emails got sent out. Mebbe he's looking for stamps for those checks. Mebbe he's spell-checking his latest script.

Mebbe his attorney stopped by his house and bitch-slapped him upside the head.

'Bad, Olney! Bad, bad Olney!'

[Gail Simone]

Hey! That's my picture! Apparently Rick and I are good friends now.

I assume you consulted with your "lawyer" (and perhaps signed any appropriate NDA's) before using my likeness, especially in this context, which involves your business endeavours and potential profits.

This may count as defamation, in fact, as my likeness will be less marketable now that it has been associated with you. I will say more after consulting the dancing lawyer who lives in my head. Thank you. In the meantime, I am done with this thread.


for 10 minutes

Dude, apropos of nothing, that is an AWESOME Scooby costume!

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Moby's gone silent.

Mebbe he's checking to see if his emails got sent out. Mebbe he's looking for stamps for those checks. Mebbe he's spell-checking his latest script.

Mebbe his attorney stopped by his house and bitch-slapped him upside the head.

'Bad, Olney! Bad, bad Olney!'


I don't know, but I like that the IQ of the board just went up fifty points.

Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

This song seems so good in this thread. Have you played the song yet Rick ? Trust me...you should because the meaning should fit in. If your running a business why would you seek to piss off the workers , the retailers who work for you and the fanbase ?

Its not a good business model I'd think. Even though Paul Heyman lied to his workers he wouldn't piss off the fans. Hell he went to huge lengths to make sure his company was idolized by the hardcore fanbase.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmmVmKmw-2A

[Momma Absurd]

Well hmmmmmmm.......

Mr.Onery you have made quite the paper trail over your years haven't you? The background check on you that I had ran only covered the last 10 years, because I figured that would have enough information on it to prove what an asshole you are but that is going to be changed.....I think (just to be a bitch) I will have one made right down to when your "creators" had their drunken one night alleycat stand and you were the result......


"Your Marine time" has me puzzled though, according to my findings it does not exist......Did you go by a different name or perhaps were you on the opposite side? Next you will be saying that you won a Purple Heart and the Congressional Medal of Honor.......

My 4 year old neice could drive a tank through your story.....

Momma "who loves her country' Absurd

[Scott Shaw!]

The ikill image crosses the line. Please just ban the guy. It's hard to stop a thread like this, it's like saying not to watch the car accident but you can continue planning legal action against him without him popping on to say how he won't be posting anymore then spewing some 5th grade "witty" comebacks and smiley faces. He's already hung himself with what he's posted (and that the evidence is stacked up against him), you don't need more posts from him and again the ikill graphic went way too far and is worrisome. It was a threat of violence and he needs to be banned. I admire Gail's policy of letting people speak their minds but threats can't be allowed.

Yeah, as much as I'd like to, I don't think that "iKill" image was an advertisement for Rick Olney's funeral parlor. It was his meltdown threat that was directed at all of us here.

Since he won't provide any answers and insists on threatening, insulting and baiting normally placid posters here, send Rick Olney to the Phantom Zone, Gail. Force him to read our discourse here without being able to join it. For an arrogant bastard like Reek, it'll be sheer torture!

Aloha,

Scott!

[Chris N]

...

We'll also have to see how long it takes your reader numbers to drop. ;) You're not walking away unscathed after all this. And that is a statement not a threat.

I haven't read nearly enough of Gail's stuff. Seeing her in this thread makes me want to read everything she's ever written. I think everyone reading this feels the same. Noone reading this will associate with Rick in any way ever again. He's clearly through.

So, yes, I would imagine this thread impacts the following of both him and Gail. Just not in the way he wants. Gail will not be "unscathed" as she may end up more popular than she can handle. I assume that's what was meant.

[Mrs. Dimestore]

Hi everybody, this is Ian's wife. I wanted to stop in and give a shout out to Joanne, Tim and Lance. It has been way to long since we talked. I am so amazed at the way this thread is going. It is bringing back so many bad memories but hopefully it has brought back old relationships.

[DocAbsurd]

I don't know, but I like that the IQ of the board just went up fifty points.

Gail

And my blood pressure dropped by half.

Fuck, I even stopped doing my tagline I got so pissed off.

Sorry for my meltdown. Today was not the day for this shit . . .

[Matt Doc Martin]

Moby's gone silent.

Mebbe he's checking to see if his emails got sent out. Mebbe he's looking for stamps for those checks. Mebbe he's spell-checking his latest script.

Mebbe his attorney stopped by his house and bitch-slapped him upside the head.

'Bad, Olney! Bad, bad Olney!'

Most likely he is culling his posts to whine on MySpace.

In the meantime, I am going to help educate Owe-ney.

http://www.iwebquest.com/alaska/images/lemming.jpg

This is a lemming.

Lemmings are small rodents, usually found in or near the Arctic. Together with the voles and muskrats, they make up the subfamily Arvicolinae (also known as Microtinae), which forms part of the largest mammal radiation by far, the superfamily Muroidea, which also includes the rats, mice, hamsters, and gerbils.


This:

http://www.northshorecity.govt.nz/images/water/update-39/greaseball-do.gif

Is a Rick.

[OzBat!]

I didn't realize that about the threads, Oz. I thought they still went buggy at 5000.

Okay then, I won't start a new one.

GailWe haven't broken 3500 posts yet. LONG WAYS TO GO!

[Chris N]

Dude, apropos of nothing, that is an AWESOME Scooby costume!

Gail

Thanks, Gail! I like it too. I guess Rick doesn't though. *sigh*

[Paul D. Storrie]

I have email from a TLE associate where Rick admits that Chuck never signed an NDA.

So when he says Chuck signed one, he knows full well he's lying.

Gail

The sad part is that I'm not really sure that he does. I'm wondering if he's actually one of those people who can convince HIMSELF that a lie is the truth.

PDS

[Gail Simone]

Hi everybody, this is Ian's wife. I wanted to stop in and give a shout out to Joanne, Tim and Lance. It has been way to long since we talked. I am so amazed at the way this thread is going. It is bringing back so many bad memories but hopefully it has brought back old relationships.

Welcome, and I'm sorry this brings back bad memories. On the other hand, we all got to meet Ian, and that's pretty cool!

Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Yeah, as much as I'd like to, I don't think that "iKill" image was an advertisement for Rick Olney's funeral parlor. It was his meltdown threat that was directed at all of us here.

Since he won't provide any answers and insists on threatening, insulting and baiting normally placid posters here, send Rick Olney to the Phantom Zone, Gail. Force him to read our discourse here without being able to join it. For an arrogant bastard like Reek, it'll be sheer torture!

Aloha,

Scott!

But like I said earlier Scott , as much as he wants banned ( come on , even I can tell he was trying to push it) by Gail , he can use that to martyr ( spelling sorry) himself. We know Gail barely bans anyone , Rick could get some pleasure seeing it and use it online.

I think the insults was him baiting everyone. He wanted a ban. Don't let him have it.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Hi everybody, this is Ian's wife. I wanted to stop in and give a shout out to Joanne, Tim and Lance. It has been way to long since we talked. I am so amazed at the way this thread is going. It is bringing back so many bad memories but hopefully it has brought back old relationships.

If there is one positive , this thread has increased traffic to the forum. Hopefully things will get better.

[DocAbsurd]

The sad part is that I'm not really sure that he does. I'm wondering if he's actually one of those people who can convince HIMSELF that a lie is the truth.

PDS

My ex is like that. By the end of the marriage, she was leading at least 2 different lives and holding down a few separate personalities.

Oh, yeah, almost forgot . . .

Feel sorry for me?




Doc 'He BELIEVES!' Absurd

[Paul D. Storrie]

Give it another day or two, Corrina. I'm sure it'll twist and turn a few hundred more times!

PDS

[Sarah Beach]

You know... regarding the absence of Himself at the moment.... I look at my watch and realize that NY is 3 hours ahead. It's din-din time, probably. He must go stoke the furnace of his creativity with more calories.

Gail, even though I did ban him from Dixonverse... well, you know, if you don't ban him, then we can at least keep the occasional eye on him here. But it's your board.

You rock!

[DocAbsurd]

And to Ian and Kathy and JoAnne:

I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.




Doc 'Front, Too' Absurd

[colleen]

Well hmmmmmmm.......

Mr.Onery you have made quite the paper trail over your years haven't you? The background check on you that I had ran only covered the last 10 years, because I figured that would have enough information on it to prove what an asshole you are but that is going to be changed.....I think (just to be a bitch) I will have one made right down to when your "creators" had their drunken one night alleycat stand and you were the result......


"Your Marine time" has me puzzled though, according to my findings it does not exist......Did you go by a different name or perhaps were you on the opposite side? Next you will be saying that you won a Purple Heart and the Congressional Medal of Honor.......

My 4 year old neice could drive a tank through your story.....

Momma "who loves her country' Absurd

I can't find anything, either.

A few years back I DID have a very unfortunate encounter with a former National Guard Big Man wannabe. He spent a lot of bragging time going on about his fabulous military record, forgetting the fact that in the 1980's, the Guard didn't get much action.

This industry big shot wannabe spent a few years bilking me out of money and art, and eventually costing me about $5,500.

And his meritorious service in the Guard? Turns out he was a high ranking clerk. And he got into trouble for accounting problems during his clerk time. Inventory kept disappearing out of the warehouses, and he was held responsible. Whether or not he was the culprit, it was his duty to keep the inventory books straight, and he did not.

Military service is no indicator of business acumen, wisdom, or honesty. Those who badger others with 30-year-old dubious credentials would do better to concern themselves with the honor, and integrity they earn for themselves with their own actions, rather than leeching the reputation of men and women who served and died for their country.


c

[Cam63]

Oh! You've seen her too? :D

You really are a piece of shit.

[Matt Doc Martin]

You know... regarding the absence of Himself at the moment.... I look at my watch and realize that NY is 3 hours ahead. It's din-din time, probably. He must go stoke the furnace of his creativity with more calories.

Gail, even though I did ban him from Dixonverse... well, you know, if you don't ban him, then we can at least keep the occasional eye on him here. But it's your board.

You rock!

The wife came home from work, smacked him in his balding head, and asked why the dishes still haven't been put away.

[Momma Absurd]

Imagine if you had to SMELL him.

Gail

Oh Gail please, anything but that please......

I imagine its something between vomit and dead buzzard, with a whiff of rotten feet and its making me ill to think it......

BUT I LOVE HOW YOU PUT IT........LMAO

Momma

[Chris N]

Oh, I posted a link to this forum on myspace (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=4288794)as someone had requested and got a response from him! Which is also where he got my picture.

[kingdom2000]

Go grab a bit to eat and still miss alot. I hope that Onley doesn't get booted for no other reason then the stated purpose of this thread is to show the nefarious business dealings of Onley. Nothing like being able to use his own words to hang himself with. His posts alone do the job for this thread.

The other reason is legal. Even though I don't think his lawyer exists, if any of the creators take him to court or in turn are taken to court by him, the many contradictions and admissions of this thread will help a great deal in any case.

Let him make his posts, reply with the contradictions and lies and let a future reader sort it out. He may resort to insults and threats but no one here has to. He insults, ignore it or simply reply with one of many questions he refuses to answer. Refusal to answer is a form of admission afterall.

[TomStillwell]

Your out of luck, or just lucky, Mac. I can't make Wizard Chicago.
Try wrecking and trashing your hotel room and blaming me. Feh. Loser.

Yeah, his van will never make it that far.

[Cam63]

If you're a person that needs to know... then you'll hear in good old due time. Otherwise, you're just barking up the wrong bridge railing.

Is there anyone here who can translate that for the rest of us ?

[Paul D. Storrie]

Imagine if you had to SMELL him.

Gail

Really awful, I take it? Are we talking city dump bad or old-style rest area outhouse toilet bad?

PDS

[Cam63]

Fucked this post up. Read the one below.

[Cam63]

Sound advice, Councelor! Only I wasn't actually callling anyone "fat" ... was I?

Yes you did, fuck knuckle.

[Kozemp]

Is there anyone here who can translate that for the rest of us ?

Well, you see, bridges have railings... and they... er... go up... and you... er... bark at them... and... er...

Oh, god, he's infected me with the brain worms through the forum.

JLK
to shreds, you say? oh, too bad. and his wife? to shreds, you say?

[Sarah Beach]

Oh, Momma Absurd & Colleen, regarding the military service? There may be something. During December, in one of the blog posts that he has since deleted, he posted about a story from that time wherein he got sick. For some reason or other (not related in the story), he was allowed to go home due to the illness on a leave of some sort. But he overstayed the leave, and had to get himself back to his post without orders (which he claimed was not actually being AWOL). He sounded as if he thought he was really clever at swinging that. Oh, and he mentioned being promoted and demoted all on the same day - like this was an achievement. He claimed.... G-4? as his exit rank (I'm not military, so I'm clueless about that. But something like that.)

Very weird vibe to the story. Right up there with putting his mother's pins in the plastic bullets of one of his childhood Christmas present toy guns, so that the point stuck out 1/8 inch. He used them to shoot at his younger sisters, who he claimed were always messing with his stuff. Although he did say the 4 plastic bullets were "quickly lost".

Isn't he quite the charmer? Those were stories he told of himself. But of course, the only way you can verify they ever existed now is to request from mySpace their own archives.

[Momma Absurd]

Momma is busy at the moment rolling up the tri-state phone book.........

intention............. to whack Onery on the nose........

reason..........for pissing on himself.......

[Draconomicon]

She's genderless here. You fall at her feet and worship her. I won't!:rolleyes:

To be honest, no, she is not genderless.
The 'its all just the internet anyways, and people here are not real' excuse never worked and will never work.
That said, I was a long time lurker at the YABS board but never truly posted. Also while I do read Villains United and its follow up, as well as Gen 13, I am an adult and fully capable of making my own decisions. Being 'pulled' into any mob is not what usually is happening to me and did not happen here, thankyouverymuch.
I have come to my own conclusions in regards to you, Sir, on my own, simply through reading this thread and links provided. Facts, so far, have been provided only by your opposition as far as I can see, but I am curious about what you might have to offer. You sure do like to call em liars, but have yet to prove your accusations.

I am still not a regular poster, but I have spend a lot of time reading this thread here, and by all accounts, 'Sir', your position is more than weak.

While Gail was able to not only post email exchanges and had several people come forth who exposed your 'memories' about certain 'events' as somewhat... sketchy (And no, I do not think the 'comic book world is out to get you), you on the other hand do refuse to answer any concrete questions, step down to threaten her and other people here physically and mentally. Your regular gloating to those people who have not seen payment so far while you are, according to your own words 'already hired people for issue #2 of tales' is showing a bad character and lack of conscience. Considering that (for example) the 'earned' payment was going to a father of TWO and a woman who had put all of her trust into the job you had given her, it is an especially despicable act of yours.

So, no, 'Sir'. You are not a Man.

[GCom]

Gail, Mr. Waid, if you could please:

1) with thier respective permission, could you email me the names of all the creators who've been denied payment by Mr. Olney?

2) Alert me, if possible, as to any lawyer appearing to in an official capacity represent Mr. Olney appears?


I said it back a number of pages, and I'll repeat it here: I, as a retailer, will give no consideration to stocking any works published by Mr. Olney (in any capacity) until I know that all the offended parties have had their respective situations resolved.

Mr. Olney, you asked why people should believe Gail and Mr. Waid over you. In my case, I've met Mr. Waid on the 'Con circuit a few times (he bought some All-Star Squadron's from me as I recall. AND he ducked me some time ago at Pitt for a trivia contest (Yes, that's a challenge Mr. Waid) and he's always been personable and friendly. Gail and I have chatted a few times via websites and PM's (and that was minimal). Many people I know and have some faith in show good feelings towards these two people. I've seen a lack of this on your part, as well as bad business planning/execution in the extreme. This is why I choose them over you. You've an opportunity to amicably swing this back to a neutral position.

Thank you for reading this rant.



With Tolerance For Words! Words! Words!...

GCom

[Cam63]

Seriously, how is that trolling?

In his Bizarro mind, being polite is bad and being an arsehole is good.

[wishlish]

Ah, it's so peaceful here now.

I have to admit that, after a break, I don't have the desire to keep insulting Rick. It's like playing a video game on the easy level. Sure, I'm winning, but where's the challenge?

I admit that this whole caper gets me angry. I'd bet good money that everyone on this board would love to have the opportunity to start a comics publishing company and work with great talent like Chuck Dixon, Mike Bullock, and others. He self-destructed, and hurt a lot of people around him. All he had to do was be honest and pay up, or even be honest about his inability to pay. But he couldn't do that.

[sk716]

Oh, Momma Absurd & Colleen, regarding the military service? There may be something. During December, in one of the blog posts that he has since deleted, he posted about a story from that time wherein he got sick. For some reason or other (not related in the story), he was allowed to go home due to the illness on a leave of some sort. But he overstayed the leave, and had to get himself back to his post without orders (which he claimed was not actually being AWOL). He sounded as if he thought he was really clever at swinging that. Oh, and he mentioned being promoted and demoted all on the same day - like this was an achievement. He claimed.... G-4? as his exit rank (I'm not military, so I'm clueless about that. But something like that.)

Very weird vibe to the story. Right up there with putting his mother's pins in the plastic bullets of one of his childhood Christmas present toy guns, so that the point stuck out 1/8 inch. He used them to shoot at his younger sisters, who he claimed were always messing with his stuff. Although he did say the 4 plastic bullets were "quickly lost".

Isn't he quite the charmer? Those were stories he told of himself. But of course, the only way you can verify they ever existed now is to request from mySpace their own archives.

E-4?

Six years and only a Corporal?

[TonyIsabella]

One of the many sad things about this monster-thread is how many decent, caring, creative, and talented folks are spending so much time on a worthless piece of crap like Olney.

I have never regretted banning him from my message board. Not for a second.

On this board, he has threatened people, made racist comments, made sexist comments, made homophobic comments, lied, lied, lied, and lied.

Ban him, Gail. I know that's against your deeply-cherished board policy, but, putting it into comics-esque contest, I'm against capital publishment and even *I* would cap the Joker.

The work of exposing Olney's evil and his lies can go on without him. Already, you and others have refuted his falsehoods on every score.

Ban him. Everyone on this board has better things to do with their time than
debate that delusional and venomous sack of shit.

If he ever makes good on even one of his "professional" obligations, I'm sure we'll hear about it. It would be huge news, like "landing a man on the Moon" news.

Don't debate the jerk. Just ban him.

Then you and everyone else can devote that time to far more creative and happy endeavors. You all have that in your lives. He doesn't.

Yes, post new information when it comes in. The revelation of his phantom military service was most enlightening, just to name one example.

But deny him this forum for his insults and rants and lies.

End the madness.

Tony Isabella

[TomStillwell]

"Slight bruise"?

My daddy taught me one thing: Hit the soft parts with your hand; for the hard parts, use a utensil. Lucky for Dickless there's 3000 miles standing between us.

But I'm sure someday somebody will get fed up with his disgusting antics and provide the broken jaw that he needs. Sadly, it probably won't be me.

People like Rick all get their ass kicked someday. It may not be an actual physical can of whup ass being unleashed. It may be mental, or emotional, maybe even spiritual.

For years these type of folks believe they can do as they please with no repercussions. The ass kickin' always comes for these smug bastards.

[Chris N]

The thing about banning is, you get people who don't know the score and may not want to hate someone based on what others say about him. So I've tried not to judge him based on others' testimonies but on what he has to say about himself.

[TonyIsabella]

Forgot the P.S.

I'm booked solid this month. But, if there's anything I can do for any benefit book to help Olney's victimes next month, count me in.

Tony Isabella

[Cam63]

Ah.

Interesting.

Well, Rick...let's compare careers, shall we?

Nearly ever pro writer here has written for magazines, prose books, television and/or film and video games.

You've written for your idiotic wankrag website (poorly, and no one reads it) and ...oh yes, a bunch of webposts where you behave like a frothing lunatic.

" Wankrag. "

I love it when Gail uses Australian lingo.

[colleen]

Oh, Momma Absurd & Colleen, regarding the military service? There may be something. During December, in one of the blog posts that he has since deleted, he posted about a story from that time wherein he got sick. For some reason or other (not related in the story), he was allowed to go home due to the illness on a leave of some sort. But he overstayed the leave, and had to get himself back to his post without orders (which he claimed was not actually being AWOL). He sounded as if he thought he was really clever at swinging that. Oh, and he mentioned being promoted and demoted all on the same day - like this was an achievement. He claimed.... G-4? as his exit rank (I'm not military, so I'm clueless about that. But something like that.)

Very weird vibe to the story. Right up there with putting his mother's pins in the plastic bullets of one of his childhood Christmas present toy guns, so that the point stuck out 1/8 inch. He used them to shoot at his younger sisters, who he claimed were always messing with his stuff. Although he did say the 4 plastic bullets were "quickly lost".

Isn't he quite the charmer? Those were stories he told of himself. But of course, the only way you can verify they ever existed now is to request from mySpace their own archives.

???

G-4 is not a rank. It refers to a military intelligence unit.

Dad just read over the remembrances here and his eyebrows crawled off the top of his head.



c

[Momma Absurd]

Oh, Momma Absurd & Colleen, regarding the military service? There may be something. During December, in one of the blog posts that he has since deleted, he posted about a story from that time wherein he got sick. For some reason or other (not related in the story), he was allowed to go home due to the illness on a leave of some sort. But he overstayed the leave, and had to get himself back to his post without orders (which he claimed was not actually being AWOL). He sounded as if he thought he was really clever at swinging that. Oh, and he mentioned being promoted and demoted all on the same day - like this was an achievement. He claimed.... G-4? as his exit rank (I'm not military, so I'm clueless about that. But something like that.)

Very weird vibe to the story. Right up there with putting his mother's pins in the plastic bullets of one of his childhood Christmas present toy guns, so that the point stuck out 1/8 inch. He used them to shoot at his younger sisters, who he claimed were always messing with his stuff. Although he did say the 4 plastic bullets were "quickly lost".

Isn't he quite the charmer? Those were stories he told of himself. But of course, the only way you can verify they ever existed now is to request from mySpace their own archives.


My brothers are both Airmen and the youngest has done 3 tours of duty to Iraq where he was diagnosed as having chemical poisoning to the point that he could have died, he wasn't sent home. My grandmother passed away and neither brother was sent home, my guess would be that if he was in and got sick and sent home it was because someone hated him. poisoned his food and hoped he would go AWOL or die and they wouldn't deal with him anymore.
I work with Vietnam vets all the time, NONE of them like to talk about that experience and none of them brag about the duties they performed and guess what alot of them are Marines..... Our men have been called upon to do some very hard and harsh things in their lives as soldiers because it is either kill or be killed in a war. I certainly would not want Onery by my brothers in a battle.......and as all of you can see he doesnt have the intestinal fortitude to be a Marine......that takes integrity and Onery has none......

Momma

[TonyIsabella]

Forgot the P.P.S.

What the comics industry really needs is a CBLDF-like organization to assist creators against publishers. Kind of a Comics Creators Legal Offense Fund.

I know there are huge obstacles to the formation of such an organization. The publishers wouldn't support it as they have the CBLDF...and, sadly, many of the fans wouldn't support creators over publishers.

But, when you look at how comics creators have historically and currently been screwed over by publishers large, small, and, in the case of Olney, non-existent, the need for such an organization is obvious.

Tony Isabella

[Mike Bullock]

Forgot the P.P.S.

What the comics industry really needs is a CBLDF-like organization to assist creators against publishers. Kind of a Comics Creators Legal Offense Fund.

I know there are huge obstacles to the formation of such an organization. The publishers wouldn't support it as they have the CBLDF...and, sadly, many of the fans wouldn't support creators over publishers.

But, when you look at how comics creators have historically and currently been screwed over by publishers large, small, and, in the case of Olney, non-existent, the need for such an organization is obvious.

Tony Isabella

As well as a Comic Industry version of the Better Business Bureau, where creators could research publishers, real and imaginary, before agreeing to work with them.

[Sarah Beach]

E-4?

Six years and only a Corporal?

SK, could have been. Like I said, the military isn't my thing, so the alphanumerical didn't mean anything to me.

It just all sounded a bit ... wonky. Particularly since there's a difference between his period of "active service" and when he says he was discharged from the service.

It's not worth it. I have a friend who's an ex-Navy Seal and now working at the Pentagon, but I'm not going to bother him to check. No point. Ancient history. But his father (also a friend) was a second lieutenant in the Army in Vietnam, and he never had to go around claiming his status as a "dishonorably discharged soldier". Of course, if you just met Coleman, you knew not to mess with him. (Even though he is actually a very gracious and generous man. You still don't mess with him.) That soldier's demeanor is never very far from him.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Forgot the P.P.S.

What the comics industry really needs is a CBLDF-like organization to assist creators against publishers. Kind of a Comics Creators Legal Offense Fund.

I know there are huge obstacles to the formation of such an organization. The publishers wouldn't support it as they have the CBLDF...and, sadly, many of the fans wouldn't support creators over publishers.

But, when you look at how comics creators have historically and currently been screwed over by publishers large, small, and, in the case of Olney, non-existent, the need for such an organization is obvious.

Tony Isabella


If I ever hit the lottery and made some big money I would pretty much set up something like you described. I'd place people who know how to run an organization like that to protect the little guy. Its a shame comics doesn't have that.

[OzBat!]

Mr Olney? About that "Need to know" thingie? Where they don't get to know the name of your lawyer? Everybody owed money by your sorry ass needs to know. You see, there's this small matter of them all getting together to sue you? Yeah, I know, I know, somebody really should have brought that to your attention before now, we're sorry for the oversight. But you've rather come to the point of them needing to know NOW.

or you could, you know, scramble around like a madman looking for the yellow pages for a lawyer when those notifications turn up at your front door.

[colleen]

The Graphic Artists Guild, of which I am a member, has existed for many years and almost no comics creators avail themselves of its services, more's the pity.

http://www.gag.org


And never forget the Volunteer Lawyers for the Arts:

http://www.vlany.org

[Blake Petit]

As well as a Comic Industry version of the Better Business Bureau, where creators could research publishers, real and imaginary, before agreeing to work with them.

Regardless of anything else that's gone on, I think this would be an EXCELLENT idea.

[DocAbsurd]

The whole time this has been going on, my Daphne has been on the phone with the local base, delving into backgrounds and such.

This has gone waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond questionable business practices and lacking moral values.

He'd make a great presidential candidate.




Doc 'Moby in 2008' Absurd

[Mike Bullock]

The Graphic Artists Guild, of which I am a member, has existed for many years and almost no comics creators avail themselves of its services, more's the pity.

http://www.gag.org


And never forget the Volunteer Lawyers for the Arts:

http://www.vlany.org

Thanks for the links, Colleen. And thanks for Orbiter, as well.

[sk716]

SK, could have been. Like I said, the military isn't my thing, so the alphanumerical didn't mean anything to me.

It just all sounded a bit ... wonky. Particularly since there's a difference between his period of "active service" and when he says he was discharged from the service.

It's not worth it. I have a friend who's an ex-Navy Seal and now working at the Pentagon, but I'm not going to bother him to check. No point. Ancient history. But his father (also a friend) was a second lieutenant in the Army in Vietnam, and he never had to go around claiming his status as a "dishonorably discharged soldier". Of course, if you just met Coleman, you knew not to mess with him. (Even though he is actually a very gracious and generous man. You still don't mess with him.) That soldier's demeanor is never very far from him.

Now I'm curious to know if he posted G-4 or E-4. G-4 would just prove he's lying about Military service. . . but then again, any idiot can look up Military ranks online.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Now I'm curious to know if he posted G-4 or E-4. G-4 would just prove he's lying about Military service. . . but then again, any idiot can look up Military ranks online.

He posted G4

[Sarah Beach]

Colleen & Momma -- I looked at the article on military rank on Wikipedia, to refresh my brain. Colleen, I think you're right, he claimed E-4 as his exit rank.

"G-4" is me having watched way too many spy intrigue movies and stuff.

[TonyIsabella]

Colleen...

"The Graphic Artists Guild is a national union of illustrators, designers, web creators, production artists, surface designers and other creatives who have come together to pursue common goals, share their experience, raise industry standards, and improve the ability of visual creators to achieve satisfying and rewarding careers."

Would comic-book writers be considered visual creators?

Tony Isabella

[TomStillwell]

I agree with you Gail,

and wish I didn't know how it feels to have gotten the short end of the stick in my carreer... but I have many times over. I'm like the poster child of short-end-of-the-stick. :cool:

This clearly has taken on a life of its own, it quickly became beating a dead horse-- what, something like 150 pages ago? Here we all are, 200 pages later and it has gone from craning our head to see the wreck on the freeway, to just plain ugly. No matter how justified, I simply find no joy in all of this.


He can always walk away from this thread. No one is keeping him here.

[Sarah Beach]

He posted G4

He did?

Wow. So I wasn't mixing memories? I mean, I like to think I do have a good memory, but even so.....

Cripes.

Added: Although, now that I think about it, when I read his original post and he had "G-4", I remember thinking, "You exited having worked in military intelligence? Don't you have to be able to analyze things for that?" But like I said, I don't know military ranks that well.

[MacQuarrie]

As well as a Comic Industry version of the Better Business Bureau, where creators could research publishers, real and imaginary, before agreeing to work with them.

If somebody wants to start working on this, I'll host the website for free.

EDIT: At the very least, something like the "Rate My Professors" site that my kids use to check out teachers before signing up for classes would be really useful.

[Perry Holley]

but then again, any idiot can look up Military ranks online.Hell, even I can do that.

[OzBat!]

When all is said, done, and finished, what we need to do to wrap it all up is create another webpage. it should include the cliff notes history of this thread and any others at other forums (took me twenty minutes to do a cliff notes summary just for the moderators here!) any suit details against mr Olney, the resolutions, overview of the people involved who wish to be identified. Sort of the legal real world version of the Women In Refridgerators! page. We can then use this as a shorthand intro to the world of Richard Olney, whenever we want to send a warning link to somebody thinking of working for him or attending one of his conventions.

[Momma Absurd]

Yes you did, fuck knuckle.

CAM!?!

What is that? Such colorful words pouring forth tonight......


*scratchs ass and wonders......

[Cam63]

I'm not addressing trolls, although I'll probably toss them a crumb now and again.

Bullshit again. You throw packets of bread, not crumbs. You must own a bakery or something.

...You're not thinking of paying the many people you owe in bread, are you ?

[MacQuarrie]

When all is said, done, and finished, what we need to do to wrap it all up is create another webpage. it should include the cliff notes history of this thread and any others at other forums (took me twenty minutes to do a cliff notes summary just for the moderators here!) any suit details against mr Olney, the resolutions, overview of the people involved who wish to be identified. Sort of the legal real world version of the Women In Refridgerators! page. We can then use this as a shorthand intro to the world of Richard Olney, whenever we want to send a warning link to somebody thinking of working for him or attending one of his conventions.

Again, I'll host it. I don't have time to build it or write the novel-length summary, but I can provide a place to put it.

Somebody pick a domain name.

[Cam63]

I will "Gail" ... enjoy the weather there.

Leave Oregons weather alone, you bastard.

[Cam63]

should someone ask the NAME of this PR person?





bwa hahahahahahaa.....ok, I couldn't say that with a straight face.....

It's either his right hand or the left one.

[rummblestrips]

She's genderless here. You fall at her feet and worship her. I won't!:rolleyes:

...here we go again
OK, when he uses the term, "SHE" and "HER", you are assigning a gender.
Sheesh.

As for people falling at my feet... only happens when I wear a bikini;)

[DocAbsurd]

When filing for a copyright, visual and written works are done independently, Mr Isabella (and no, I'm not being sarcastic; I always refer to someone I just met by a proper title. I was raised with manners, unlike some Olney around here). I'd have to think similar rules would apply here.

Although . . .

They do include 'other creatives'; maybe that's supposed to cover authors as well.

Maybe Larry could help us here. I remember hearing about a similar guild solely for authors years ago, so it's possible comic book authors fall in that category instead.




Doc 'Thieves' Guild' Absurd

[sk716]

He posted G4

Well, that settles that, I call bullshit.

G4 is Logistics. There is no way he spent six years in an intelligence area and only achieved an E-4. Supply, sure, intelligence, no way.

Besides, he clearly doesn't have the brain power to get into intelligence.

[sk716]

Again, I'll host it. I don't have time to build it or write the novel-length summary, but I can provide a place to put it.

Somebody pick a domain name.

I'll do the building, just don't ask me to write anything. I did my share of cataloging the rantings of madmen with J-Bolt.

[Momma Absurd]

...here we go again
OK, when he uses the term, "SHE" and "HER", you are assigning a gender.
Sheesh.

As for people falling at my feet... only happens when I wear a bikini;)

oooooooooooo thats a good one!!!!

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

My favorite image:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Smilies/USMCikill.jpg

Are you on crack? Considering your whole tone the WHOLE time, what made you think that this won't be conscrued as some kind of threat?

They are going to take you to the cleaners. And to be honest, I think you deserve it.

JP

[TonyIsabella]

Doc...

No offensive taken with the "Mr. Isabella," but "Tony" will do just fine.

"Mr Isabella's Online Tips" just doesn't have that zing, y'know?

Tony

[Sarah Beach]

Well, that settles that, I call bullshit.

G4 is Logistics. There is no way he spent six years in an intelligence area and only achieved an E-4. Supply, sure, intelligence, no way.

Besides, he clearly doesn't have the brain power to get into intelligence.

Now... I could see him as a six year Supply gropo. Or KP. Or something menial.

[Corrina]

I usually don't mention my military service (two years in the Coast Guard) simply because it was brief, a long time ago, and I feel like I could have done a better job, though the kid I was then did her best.

Most vets I know rarely mention their military service except in a very passing manner or unless it's has meaning to a discussion already underway.

A writer I know, a former special forces team leader, uses it as a credential because he writes action novels with military heroes, but when you talk to him in person, you can hardly get him to speak two words about his service. Though I've caught one of his lectures to fellow authors about getting the military right, and he's obviously got some damn eye-raising stories.

Even Chuckg, who is a Navy vet, rarely used to talk about his service at CBR unless someone else brought it up.

So my bullshit detector always goes up when someone makes a big deal of their military service.

[Momma Absurd]

Now... I could see him as a six year Supply gropo. Or KP. Or something menial.

Hell fire boyzzz I wouldn't let him peel tators behind the kitchen.....

[Matt Doc Martin]

Now... I could see him as a six year Supply gropo. Or KP. Or something menial.

I still think he washed out. 1 year in the Guard? Just 1 year?!?

[colleen]

Colleen...

"The Graphic Artists Guild is a national union of illustrators, designers, web creators, production artists, surface designers and other creatives who have come together to pursue common goals, share their experience, raise industry standards, and improve the ability of visual creators to achieve satisfying and rewarding careers."

Would comic-book writers be considered visual creators?

Tony Isabella

Yes.

Their Handbook of Pricing and Ethical Guidelines includes a chapter on the comic book industry.

While the Guild is opposed to work for hire, everyone does it, of course.

[Sarah Beach]

I usually don't mention my military service (two years in the Coast Guard) simply because it was brief, a long time ago, and I feel like I could have done a better job, though the kid I was then did her best.

Most vets I know rarely mention their military service except in a very passing manner or unless it's has meaning to a discussion already underway.

A writer I know, a former special forces team leader, uses it as a credential because he writes action novels with military heroes, but when you talk to him in person, you can hardly get him to speak two words about his service. Though I've caught one of his lectures to fellow authors about getting the military right, and he's obviously got some damn eye-raising stories.

Even Chuckg, who is a Navy vet, rarely used to talk about his service at CBR unless someone else brought it up.

So my bullshit detector always goes up when someone makes a big deal of their military service.

Exactly, Corrina. In fact, my (several years) older sister, her husband was one of the first of the Air Force Commandos in Vietnam (which I never knew until recently), and he hardly ever talks about it. At all.

[Cully Hamner]

Okay. I was under the impression that questioning Olney's service was off the table, but since it's obviously back on, I'd like to divert your attention to an exchange (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=1931355&blogID=180214086&Mytoken=CB25D544-A0F8-4226-AC7F8D9838648AF12571390) I had with him on my MySpace blog. It was one of the things that led to his veiled threat to me in a later blog, as well as a fairly menacing PM. Just pointing out that Olney has no trouble questioning the service of those Marines whose opinions don't jibe with his point of view. I'd also like to point out that he was proved completely wrong in his assertion that the subject of this particular blog entry was not a real Marine, and that no Marine would write anything like that. In fact, it turned out to be the Marine Corps' intelligence chief in Iraq.

In any case, I think that since Olney's behavior doesn't hold with any sort of code of honor with which I'm familiar, I have no problem questioning whether or not he is actually a Marine, or whether or not he was honorably discharged.

But then, what do I know? I'm a Communist. :rolleyes:

[colleen]

I also want to mention that in addition to being open to comic book creators (who never seem to join for some reason), the Graphic Artists Guild has legal referral services, a board of arbitration, offers group discounts on art supplies, car rentals, etc., has a newsletter that includes, job referrals, information on pending legislation for creators, and lots o' cool tips, but for all that, you also get to apply for the GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE.

Please join.




c

[Cam63]

"Gail" I spent more than enough time on MY back in the Marines.

Pray, what exactly are you implying with that line ?

If it's what I think it is, there'll be a long line to punch your fucking lights out.

[Cam63]

What the hell is a 'scmuck?'

Gail

" Scmuck " is the sound Rick makes when he gets up off a chair.

[Matt Doc Martin]

This "letter" appears to be from someone incapable of command. The things I read talked of are nothing that any other service person doesn't endure. That's why there is such an active "support the troops" movement in America. Frankly, I dispute the validity of it. Looks to be nothing but clever propaganda. I've emailed Headquarters Marine Corps about this matter. I'm sure they'd be interested, if not already investigating the origin and identity of the originator. I also will turn a bunch of my Marine friends on to your blog post. Wouldn't want your opinions one sided.


OOOhh...another threat from Rick!!!


He "emailed Headquarters Marine Corps"


Uh-huh.

And Rick doesn't HAVE Marine friends.

[Matt Doc Martin]

" Scmuck " is the sound Rick makes when he gets up off a chair.

He shoots, HE SCORES!

[Gail Simone]

Pray, what exactly are you implying with that line ?

If it's what I think it is, there'll be a long line to punch your fucking lights out.

He means exactly what it sounds like he means.

When he goes nuts like this, his hatred for women becomes hugely obvious.

Honestly? I wouldn't want you to waste your time. You're important to me, he isn't.

Simple.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

He means exactly what it sounds like he means.

When he goes nuts like this, his hatred for women becomes hugely obvious.



Gail

So he really DID spend a lot of time bottoming in the Marine corp.

Huh. Out of all the things he lied about, I never thought he'd tell the truth on that.

[Ronée]

again Rick, you have not directly answered any of my questions I ask in my open letter to you here (http://www.michaelnetzer.com/wagw)

What are you scared of?

[colleen]

OOOhh...another threat from Rick!!!


He "emailed Headquarters Marine Corps"


Uh-huh.

And Rick doesn't HAVE Marine friends.


I hope he emailed the Commandant at the Pentagon where his offices actually are instead of in Quantico where his offices actually are not.



c

[Matt Doc Martin]

I hope he emailed the Commandant at the Pentagon where his offices actually are instead of in Quantico where his offices actually are not.



c

Depends on when he saw a movie that mentioned "Quantico".

If he had watched "A Few Good Men" he would have emailed Guantanamo.

[DocAbsurd]

Are there fees for the Guild, Miss Doran? I think I was a member of a local branch for a while, but I can't make it out to the meetings so I let my membership lapse.

Sucked, too. It was a great way to communicate with local creators.




Doc 'Outta Touch' Absurd

[Ray Dillon]

This is absolute madness. Good grief. Good luck to everyone battling against this guy. I've had some crazy employers in the past (including a guy who hired a detective to try to "prove" that I stole his wheelchair cushion"), but this guy is up there.

I'm sure it'll all work out to your benefit.

[MacQuarrie]

" Scmuck " is the sound Rick makes when he gets up off a chair.

Howy, this better make the Digest!

[colleen]

Yes, there are fees. I believe the student fee is $75 per year, and the Professional fee goes up to $200 per year. Worth every penny, especially if you can get affordable health insurance out of it. Naturally, that is separate, but many artists cannot afford their own health insurance, and this is a good way to get access to a reasonably priced plan.

Ironically, I have my own plan through a self employed program with Anthem. I only pay about $156 a month.

You can get all the info at http://www.gag.org



c

[Forefinger]

My favorite image:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/Smilies/USMCikill.jpg

Fuck you, bitch.

[Cam63]

I'd chew off a leg to have him forget who I am.

May we call you Stumpy or Peg if you do ?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I hope everyone checks out the Paul Heyman/Rick Olney thread I did. You can watch a free video and get some tension cut down. Its a good one with many commenting on the downfall of something Heyman caused in a bad way.

[Cam63]

Fuck you, bitch.

Sad he thinks that's what a Marine is all about.

" I kill. "

What a wanker.

[howyadoin]

I also want to mention that in addition to being open to comic book creators (who never seem to join for some reason), the Graphic Artists Guild has legal referral services, a board of arbitration, offers group discounts on art supplies, car rentals, etc., has a newsletter that includes, job referrals, information on pending legislation for creators, and lots o' cool tips, but for all that, you also get to apply for the GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE.

Please join.Is this a US-only organization, or are they international?

[howyadoin]

Howy, this better make the Digest!The rate we're going, I could almost do an all-Olneyish Digest.

[Cam63]

Funny how you put that relationship together. I would've never seen that. So was sex involved? I have no idea. My remark to "Gail Simone" about my time on my back was just that. How she earned her stripes is her business.

You're saying she " earned her stripes " on her back, (p)Rick.

You can't pretend you meant it any other way.

[Matt Doc Martin]

You're saying she " earned her stripes " on her back, (p)Rick.

You can't pretend you meant it any other way.

I am feeling all sorts of inappropriate warm fuzzies towards you.

[Cam63]

Holy crap.

I just realized who his unseen attorney must be.

It must be Johnnie Cochran, back from the grave.

I mean, hey. OJ.

OJ is a genius compared to Olney.

[Cam63]

I am feeling all sorts of inappropriate warm fuzzies towards you.

Hetero man hug !

[Crowley]

And who his lawyer is, and if it's the same girl who used to help out Encyclopedia Brown.

oh no Mr. Waid... you DO NOT bag on Sally.

I'll have you know that she now works for Crane, Poole & Schmidt.

[Cam63]

Hey, watch the hands, buddy !

[colleen]

Is this a US-only organization, or are they international?


From the website:


The At-Large Chapter provides an ever-expanding range of resources and opportunities for Guild members who don't live near a local chapter. The At-Large Chapter serves over 500 international members whose backgrounds span various artistic disciplines and skill levels. We are here to provide a voice for students, associates and professional artists so we can improve our profession together.

At-Large maintains its own satellite office. Our staff supports members by providing referrals, advocacy, education and communication services. Our website and newsletter provide members with valuable resources and unique networking opportunities. We also act as the Guild's nursery for new chapters.



And with that, I am signing off. I am not only sick with a flu bug, I am now tired.

Good luck to all.


c

[Michael P]

There's kind of a beautiful irony here. Out of the selfish and evil acts of one man, there's come a reaffirmation of the sense of community in the comics world. I think that's kind of neat, like a pretty bush of roses growing from a giant cow turd.

[howyadoin]

From the website:


The At-Large Chapter provides an ever-expanding range of resources and opportunities for Guild members who don't live near a local chapter. The At-Large Chapter serves over 500 international members whose backgrounds span various artistic disciplines and skill levels. We are here to provide a voice for students, associates and professional artists so we can improve our profession together.

At-Large maintains its own satellite office. Our staff supports members by providing referrals, advocacy, education and communication services. Our website and newsletter provide members with valuable resources and unique networking opportunities. We also act as the Guild's nursery for new chapters.



And with that, I am signing off. I am not only sick with a flu bug, I am now tired.

Good luck to all.


cThanks, Colleen. I'll have to look into this.

And get well soon, of course.

[Cam63]

Mr. Olney,

Considering that there are lawyers looking at this, I would remove that, as it could be considered a threat of some kind.

Let the fake sink himself deeper.

[Michael P]

Mr Olney? About that "Need to know" thingie? Where they don't get to know the name of your lawyer? Everybody owed money by your sorry ass needs to know. You see, there's this small matter of them all getting together to sue you? Yeah, I know, I know, somebody really should have brought that to your attention before now, we're sorry for the oversight. But you've rather come to the point of them needing to know NOW.

or you could, you know, scramble around like a madman looking for the yellow pages for a lawyer when those notifications turn up at your front door.

I thought Rick had already retained the services of an attorney who's very well-known in the entertainment industry:

http://www.gta-series.com/it/lcstories/eastereggs/lionelhutz.jpg

[Mrs. Dimestore]

Welcome, and I'm sorry this brings back bad memories. On the other hand, we all got to meet Ian, and that's pretty cool!

Gail

I'm imagining a fun night at a show some time where we all toast to the one person NOT there!

[Mrs. Dimestore]

The wife came home from work, smacked him in his balding head, and asked why the dishes still haven't been put away.

waitaminnit...that explains MY evening too!

[Dedagda]

I totally got sucked into this thread while doing laundry.

So much so that I left my clothes in the apartment community dryers too long.


Someone folded my laundry.




Luckily no one signed an NDA to fold my laundry. I'm not paying for services rendered.

[MacQuarrie]

Okay. I was under the impression that questioning Olney's service was off the table...
I don't think it was ever off the table. General insults of military personnel or military-based insults were forbidden, but certainly looking at his claims is a legit area to explore.

The things that are off the table are Dick's family (though he seems to think it's okay to insult others' families) and the military in general.

[AIPman1]

Dangit, those last 2 posts by Mrs Dimestore were ME, I didn't notice My wife hadn't logged out......ooops!!!!

[Cam63]

On another note, anyone besides me who honestly, genuinely read the "iKill" picture as a threat, please pipe up.

I see it as a threat, Waid.

Olney's skills do not include subtley.

[MacQuarrie]

The rate we're going, I could almost do an all-Olneyish Digest.

I will Paypal you money for a beer if you do.

[OzBat!]

I'm imagining a fun night at a show some time where we all toast to the one person NOT there!ME!

*cries*

It's a times like this that I regret the small matter of the pacific ocean being between me and all you fantastic people.

I'm raising an imaginary cyber-beer to everybody lodging their claims against Olney as we speak!

[Cam63]

Oh, don't worry.... I have a feeling I know where you take it. Feh.

I see dickheads threaten others all the time. They back right down when they find out they're picking on the wrong person or when security staff step in.

You're no different.

[AIPman1]

Forgot the P.P.S.

What the comics industry really needs is a CBLDF-like organization to assist creators against publishers. Kind of a Comics Creators Legal Offense Fund.

I know there are huge obstacles to the formation of such an organization. The publishers wouldn't support it as they have the CBLDF...and, sadly, many of the fans wouldn't support creators over publishers.

But, when you look at how comics creators have historically and currently been screwed over by publishers large, small, and, in the case of Olney, non-existent, the need for such an organization is obvious.

Tony Isabella

I volunteer to have the Self Publisher Association involved with creating that very thing. I've seen creators screwed, left and right. By Publishers, by Printers. I think that those that are in the SELF PUBLISHING level NEED it. I'm not a lawyer, but I would gladly work with whoever wanted to help build a panel to create this, and govern it in the long term.

[Draconomicon]

Okay. I was under the impression that questioning Olney's service was off the table, but since it's obviously back on, I'd like to divert your attention to an exchange (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=1931355&blogID=180214086&Mytoken=CB25D544-A0F8-4226-AC7F8D9838648AF12571390) I had with him on my MySpace blog. It was one of the things that led to his veiled threat to me in a later blog, as well as a fairly menacing PM. Just pointing out that Olney has no trouble questioning the service of those Marines whose opinions don't jibe with his point of view. I'd also like to point out that he was proved completely wrong in his assertion that the subject of this particular blog entry was not a real Marine, and that no Marine would write anything like that. In fact, it turned out to be the Marine Corps' intelligence chief in Iraq.


Interesting.
After the posting of WHO had written the letter, he disappeared from the blog there. No word of "having been wrong."

[Cam63]

Rick is scum.. Don't believe a word he says.

I can see that printed on T shirts, caps and coffee mugs at the next comic con.

[howyadoin]

I will Paypal you money for a beer if you do.Do I have to sign an NDA first?

[Cam63]

Hell yes it was a threat.

I think it was over the line, even for the anythign goes YABS board. If I were still a mod I'd be arguing for Dick's banning right about now. Enough is enough.

Hey Oz, if such a discussion is underway, I urge you to drop the hammer on him already.

Can it be an actual hammer ?

[mroakley]

Let's go check Rick's facts. First and all, I'm two quarts shy of a crankcase, then he goes and says that he didn't recall anything?

PUH-LEEZE.

Gah, I'm so sick of this thread, of Rick, and everything else to do with it.........maybe I should just follow my own lawyers advice and file in my home county with a slander/libel suit. Then he'd either have to travel with his lawyer to my county, or be found in contempt.



Well, actually, I couldn't recall Marty's last name. And I didn't recall his bipolar condition either. I just knew that I had initially warned off a friend of mne that was thinking of getting involved with him to have Mr. Oakley publish some of his comics.

I don't think there is a code yet for people to behave on the Internet. Least wise, you can't tell it by this thread. This COULD have been an interesting conversation that might've opened up the matter and possibly kept it out of where it is headed, but trolls and plebes changed that. As did talents that broke their TightLip Entertainment NDA's.

EDIT: Please note that MY above remarks are not an endorsement of making fun of bipolar people, and CERTAINLY not a slight at Mr. Martin Oakley. I just reread it and realized it could be construed that way. That was certainly not my intent. I was just trying to point out what a ignorant person this "Kozemp" troll is. If you want to make fun of a bipolar person, "Kozemp", feel free to make fun of me., but I won't respond to your future posts.

[AIPman1]

As well as a Comic Industry version of the Better Business Bureau, where creators could research publishers, real and imaginary, before agreeing to work with them.

Ah yes...that holds merit. And I would support/participate in such. I already, running the SPA, get asked constantly if this or that publisher is for real, etc...

[Cam63]

I thought Olney's favorite image would actually be this:

http://docs.raycornwall.com/ibroke.jpg

I love you right now.

[MacQuarrie]

Interesting.
After the posting of WHO had written the letter, he disappeared from the blog there. No word of "having been wrong."

Dick is a "Can't-be-wrong". He is fundamentally incapable of admitting an error. He is also fundamentally incapable of admitting he doesn't know something. He can never learn anything new because that would require admitting that he didn't know it before. He can never improve any of his skills because that would require admitting that he was doing it wrong. He can never repair a relationship or make amends for anything, so his life is doomed to be an endless parade of burned bridges and broken friendships devoid of any hope.

He is sentenced to his sad little life of mediocrity and failure, simply because of his own personality defects.

Young people: Look long and hard at the Specimen; study his ways. Let him serve as a warning and a cautionary tale. Don't turn into this guy. It is its own punishment.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Let's go check Rick's facts. First and all, I'm two quarts shy of a crankcase, then he goes and says that he didn't recall anything?

PUH-LEEZE.

Gah, I'm so sick of this thread, of Rick, and everything else to do with it.........maybe I should just follow my own lawyers advice and file in my home county with a slander/libel suit. Then he'd either have to travel with his lawyer to my county, or be found in contempt.
Please do. I encourage ANYONE with a Olney related problem to go after him. He is a slimeball and needs to be taught a lesson. Words and actions (or in his case, INACTION) have consequences. After all the threats he has made, he needs to feel what it is like to have someone actually go after him. I encourage Ms Absurd, Ronee, Mr. Bullock, and others to let fly. You have the support of Mr. Waid. Take that offer and run with it.

[Cam63]

That is usually the mark of a moderator that hasn't the balls to rationalize. It actually doesn't and wouldn't bother me either. The lot of you have such sad dispositions and obviously no lives, but maybe my being here will help you see the real error of your ways. There are more ways to use negative energy to promote positive change than you can shake a stick at! Well, if you're good at it.

Now come on! Let's get that Olney guy!!! POST! I'd really like to see this thread top 260 pages before midnight!

Thank you.

I'd settle for personally slapping you with a rolled up newspaper.

The Sunday edition.

[Pia Guerra]

I'm going to chime in on the issue of Vietnam vets not bragging about their service.

My grand-uncle Lou served in Vietnam though you'd never know it. The guy doesn't talk about it. Ever. I had no idea until I was in my late teens when I learned through other family members that because he was latino/Mapuche he appeared more asian than most and for that reason he was shoved deep into the jungle, up on the front lines. He may have had something to do with flamethrowers because he kept a key chain with a mini replica on it.

Before he signed up he was a gregarious, happy guy. When he came back he was totally changed, reserved and quiet with this constant tension. The change was so drastic that it convinced my dad to stay at his job in the UN instead of signing up.

My dad mentioned going to see Apocalypse Now with Lou and throughout the film he would look over to see him nodding slightly. During the village scenes near the end he was shaking.

I wasn't sure I could believe these stories until we were visiting Jersey one summer, I woke up early, right at dawn. I was sitting up on the couch looking around for the time and then I looked out the back porch door window. One second I was staring at the wood lined yard, the next, he was there, out of bloody nowhere doing a perimeter. He wasn't sneaking about or pulling any weird stances, he just walked, silent and focused on the ground near his feet. It was like watching a ghost and it scared the living hell out of me.

I later learned he'd done that for years.


Good men and women went through hell over there and Dick taking those experiences to prop up his shitty business practices is despicable. Absolutely despicable.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'd settle for personally slapping you with a rolled up newspaper.

The Sunday edition.

Heh. Check your PM's.

[OzBat!]

Please do. I encourage ANYONE with a Olney related problem to go after him. He is a slimeball and needs to be taught a lesson. Words and actions (or in his case, INACTION) have consequences. After all the threats he has made, he needs to feel what it is like to have someone actually go after him. I encourage Ms Absurd, Ronee, Mr. Bullock, and others to let fly. You have the support of Mr. Waid. Take that offer and run with it.Yeah. After getting served with half a dozen REAL lawsuits, he might not be so quick to go throwing that around as a threat....

















BWAHHHH-HAAHAAHAAAA!! Oh, who am I kidding!!

[Cam63]

Well, this is the only Olney photo I found...

I'm still trying to figure out how this pasty-faced doughboy claims to be a Marine.

http://docs.raycornwall.com/Olney.jpg

I have my doubts, but I'll wait for the proof that he wasn't one.

[Cam63]

Heh. Check your PM's.

Thanks for that, guys.

I'm up to 100, so I got some clearing to do if there's gunna be any more added.