Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Sparvid]

this thread is CRACK!

CRACK I TELLS YA!
Tell me about it. I stayed up yesterday evening, reading this thread for so long that I only got about five hours sleep.

(Obviously, I'm suing Rick for causing me to be late for work by being such a fascinating, lying trainwreck)

[Crowley]

Just some advice for everyone doing the spectating...

if you want to really want fight back?

Post this thread EVERYWHERE!

MySpace, Livejournal, Bendis board, the Engine, Newsarama, Comicspace, EVERYWHERE.

make sure that other people don't get screwed and scammed by this guy.

[Chris N]

It's on my myspace bulletin and blog

[OzBat!]

Renee, Michael,

About the only suggestion I could make, would be to include some kind of separator between the individual comments on the view comments page - that was a little hard to make out who was attributed to what.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Dave Lanphear was the first professional ever to say he read one of my comic reviews and that he appreciated it. It was on a book that he lettered. it was just a few sentences in his blog but it was just so encouraging and meant a lot to me.

I wish him nothing but the best.

Yes, Dave is a standup guy. I have nothing but the upmost respect for him. The fact that Olney tried to blame his failures on Dave proves what a repugnant jerk ol' Rick really is.

[singoalla]

Big, bold, and red:
<span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 16px; color: #ff0000">YOUR TEXT HERE</span>


Bless yew. I can't work out html tags for the life of me. I get impressed every time I put the <P > in the proper place :D

[Mike Bullock]

Yes, Dave is a standup guy. I have nothing but the upmost respect for him. The fact that Olney tried to blame his failures on Dave proves what a repugnant ass ol' Reek really is.

It's "utmost". Now you owe me editing fees as well. ;)

Dave is an absolute gem of a man. He's always been a joy to work with and I'm sure will continue to be.

Now, off to read Ronee's article... then write my own.

[Wil Radcliffe]

It's "utmost". Now you owe me editing fees as well. ;)

Dave is an absolute gem of a man. He's always been a joy to work with and I'm sure will continue to be.

Now, off to read Ronee's article... then write my own.

Well, I could blame all my misspellings on the stomach flu I'm fighting, but more likely it's because I'm just lazy.

;)

[Mike Bullock]

Well, I could blame all my misspellings on the stomach flu I'm fighting, but more likely it's because I'm just lazy.

;)


Stomach Flu? Sounds like a reason to go on a well deserved vacation. Be sure to use that excuse when your Landlord comes looking for the rent... ;)

[Wil Radcliffe]

It's "utmost". Now you owe me editing fees as well. ;)


Actually, I'm right!

Upmost (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/upmost)!

But utmost is the most commonly used.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Stomach Flu? Sounds like a reason to go on a well deserved vacation. Be sure to use that excuse when your Landlord comes looking for the rent... ;)

Actually, it would be the bank coming to look for the mortgage. I don't think the stomach flu will keep their claws out of my hide!

Although, $1125.00 would probably keep them happy for a couple of months.

Gee, I wonder where I could get my hands on that kind of money? ;)

[singoalla]

Gail: I posted this on another forum, and mentioned they could contact you through these boards if they have had contact with RO.
I hope that was all right. If not, I will change it.

[Ian Boothby]

Oh, my god, YES, so JEALOUS, because I desperately want to be a despised lying deadbeat with zero English skills and a vanity company that will never actually publish anything and a bad B.O. problem!

Rick, dear...why would I want to be YOU? What admirable or enviable quality do you have? It makes me sick to even CONTEMPLATE.

For fuck's sake, why do YOU even want to be you?

Gail

Be careful Gail, you'll ruin his good name.

Anytime he mentions his good name it reminds me of a Homer quote, "It's just a little slimey, it's still good, it's still good."

[SamuraiJack]

I haven't commented yet as I really have nothing to do with this aside from reading it and being disgusted, but I wanted to pop in and say I linked this to my MySpace, and have discussed 'Dick' with a few of my friends at the LCS who are looking to get into the business. I'm so sorry good people got so thoroughly dicked over by this clown, and I hope it comes to an agreeable end for all involved.

Cheers on another great article Ronee!

Gail, I can't heap any more praise on you if I tried, but good on ya for bringing this out in the open.

And Mr. Waid, if you're still reading along, I salute you as a god amongst men.

[NatGertler]

What publisher in his right mind wants to keep the talent producing the books a SECRET?I haven't seen the contracts in question, but... perhaps one that signed an NDA preventing him from discussing the talent's involvement and then forgot to put a right-of-publicity clause in the contract overriding that limitation?

[Matt Doc Martin]

I haven't seen the contracts in question, but... perhaps one that signed an NDA preventing him from discussing the talent's involvement and then forgot to put a right-of-publicity clause in the contract overriding that limitation?

That is just crazy enough to make sense. Same with his attorney!

[Scott Shaw!]

Two different people here have posted terrific pieces on Rick Olney being a sociopath. One consisted of quotes from a book. Both of these should be re-posted every couple of pages, just to remind everyone what we're dealing with here. (I've been trying to find 'em, to no success.) If you read this, would you please repost your thoughts about Rick the sociopath? As someone who's witnessed his patterns of behavior for many years, I think you've absolutely nailed the cause of why he's the way he is.

Rick Olney hasn't responded to reason, anger, friendship, outrage, name-calling, insults, pity, concern, etc. Unless we can force therapy and heavy medication on him, I've come to realize it's all wasted energy.

Let's put all of our energies into getting the victimized creators paid.

As for spreading the word throughout the entire funnybook industry about Tightlip Entertainment and Rick Olney's toxic track record, has anyone contacted Gary Groth or Kim Thompson? I'd think that the folks at THE COMICS JOURNAL would be dee-lighted to lift this rock and expose the stinkbug crawling beneath it. Admit it, the Rick Olney story is the perfect grist for THE COMIC JOURNAL's mill, and their coverage would certainly be seen and read throughout the industry.

Aloha,

Scott!

[orcafresh]

How does that feel, Rick? To utterly be alone when all your actions undo you?

Oh, Tom....

And here I thought you were the only semi-intelligent one here. Look, when the drama is all done and we're down to sorting out the legalities I will still feel sadder for the bunch of you than any insults and such that have been cast in my direction.

I'm not some cheap prom date that any of you had back in high school, and I'm not going to reply to trolls or malicious idiots. We have gotten close on a couple posts to the spirit of this matter. I realize its a huge mess and that's why all I see in unraveling it are legal steps. A few people here tag me a sociopath. Read the description for a sociopath. I don't fit that descriptive, although I'm now sure that that will be all the more stressed. I don't care.

I am eccentric, and have been known to be somewhat generous in my earlier years. You guys really are simply only tools. Tools of "Gail's" and any other industry "professional" stooping so low. Focus on the good stuff that has happened here!
Tim Tolbolski has found his creative spirit and motivation! (Although Tim, you and Daph have your crackerjack of a lawyer investigate the ICC copyright, okay?
Lance Boucher is capable of pimpin' his IF site more ... AND having a few of you actually look at his hard work! Despite the mea things said, I have no control over personal karma.
Ian Shires found himself. Oh, and in all fairness, it looks like Small Press now has a revived image in, ummm... whatever Ian Shires is sellin' this month!
"Gail Simone" now has the BIGGEST thread on CBR. 'Course, a few of us that have seen her in person already knew that. :p But "Gail" knows where she's lied and fabricated portions of her story. She a BIG girl, so she realizes where that puts her. And what's a lie here and there when you're "Gail Simone"?
Ronee has found her path back, with a renewed energy and spirit. (Ro, I'll email you later to try *again to work out a payment understanding. You can then ask all your old and new friends if its, "Deal or No Deal!" Hell, write an open letter column about it.)
Glenn Barbis is OUT OF THE CLOSET! Tell them some of your comeback kid stories, why doncha?
Countless plebes are also re-energized to love and enjoy comic books!
So many other things to note too! But I have things to accomplish today.


A few more people hate in the world. So what!?

I must profess I am enjoying this thread. I will be publishing my book line before this year's end, and I still have enough real friends to survive this organized campaign of hatred.

Listen.

Here that sucking sound?

That's the life leaving this forum once this thread eats itself from the inside out. Good day! :D

[PatrickG]

...

Rick.

Seriously, drop the quotes around "Gail Simone". It's a penname. We get that. You make it sound like fraud and it isn't.

Quit threatening people.

If you owe people money, you owe them money. If they're in breach of their NDAs, you should pay them what they're owed and THEN sue them for breaching the NDAs.

This forum has been active for years. Just because you've managed to draw a crowd doesn't mean that's a good things for you or that it will be a bad thing for this forum.

[Daneault]

"Gail Simone" now has the BIGGEST thread on CBR. 'Course, a few of us that have seen her in person already knew that. :p But "Gail" knows where she's lied and fabricated portions of her story. She a BIG girl, so she realizes where that puts her. And what's a lie here and there when you're "Gail Simone"?


OMG!:eek: wow. that's mature.

[TomStillwell]

I hate to burst your bubble, Rick. I really do.

But if by some act of a evil god from another dimension you are actually able to publish a comic, no retailer anywhere will carry it. The good folks at CBIA have the scent of your reek already.

Not that anyone would buy a comic published by you. Especially written by you.

[orcafresh]

I hate to burst your bubble, Rick. I really do.

But if by some act of a evil god from another dimension you are actually able to publish a comic, no retailer anywhere will carry it. The good folks at CBIA have the scent of your reek already.

Not that anyone would buy a comic published by you. Especially written by you.

Tom,

You have so little faith in people outside of the comic book box. Retailers will buy and sell what sells in the first place.

[Typo Lad]

Actually, there are several larger threads.

Just sayin'.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well Rick is back. You gonna give the answer everyone wants ? They requested your Attorney's contact information . You ever gonna give it to them ?

[orcafresh]

OMG!:eek: wow. that's mature.

Oh! You've seen her too? :D

[orcafresh]

Well Rick is back. You gonna give the answer everyone wants ? They requested your Attorney's contact information . You ever gonna give it to them ?

If you're a person that needs to know... then you'll hear in good old due time. Otherwise, you're just barking up the wrong bridge railing.

[sk716]

Wow, something smells like asshole.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Tom,

You have so little faith in people outside of the comic book box. Retailers will buy and sell what sells in the first place.

Actually one must read the story of Crossgen. Go to the indie forums and read an excellant article on how Crossgen launching had a rough road. Your starting a new company , Rick. Its not gonna be " snaps fingers " 50,000 books sold.

People have a low tolerance on new companies. Thats true online and off-line. The many don't wanna be sucked in to watch another company fail like Vallient or Defiant.

[Typo Lad]

Mr. Olney,

You do realize that you are acting very unprofessional, right? Do you also realize that this does not help your case?

Does your council know you planned on coming here to sling insults about someone's girth?

[Wil Radcliffe]

Well, I hope you're all happy! Because I allowed myself to get sucked into this negative thread, Rick has e-mailed me saying that my monies will be going to another 'professional' on the book! :D

That's wonderful, Rick! Just tell me which 'professional' that is! Huh? Which one of us have you decided to pay?

And here I was feeling sorry for you because I thought you were in a similar position to me, being laid off with no source of income. I still feel sorry for you, but only because it must be difficult to go through life with such an incredible lack of honor and ethics.

Putz.

[TCJohnson]

Oh! You've seen her too? :D

Big man, throwing out insults and threats while hiding behind a computer and his "lawyer."

Exactly how a real marine would act. riiiight.

every time he calls himself a patriot an angel looses it's wings.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

If you're a person that needs to know... then you'll hear in good old due time. Otherwise, you're just barking up the wrong bridge railing.

Val and others had asked you earlier. I'm not in your business so I'm a person posting online to this and making comments. I don't even know you beyond this thread .

[orcafresh]

I haven't seen the contracts in question, but... perhaps one that signed an NDA preventing him from discussing the talent's involvement and then forgot to put a right-of-publicity clause in the contract overriding that limitation?

The NDA was cleared via legal, as were the contracts. There actually is a right-of-publicity clause, but it doesn't give the 'talent' clearance to publicize unless engaged and so requested by TightLip Entertainment.

[Typo Lad]

He's the same sort of Patriot as the current US President: Willing to fight to the death -just not his own.

[SamuraiJack]

Listen.

Here that sucking sound?

That's the life leaving this forum once this thread eats itself from the inside out. Good day! :D


Egads, man! For a "writer" not to know the difference between hear and here?

[orcafresh]

Val and others had asked you earlier. I'm not in your business so I'm a person posting online to this and making comments. I don't even know you beyond this thread .

Val has nothing to worry about. He'll have what he's asking for soon. And no, I don't know you either. I only know what you've said publicly about me. Again, karma, baby.

[Matt Algren]

Oh, Tom....

And here I thought you were the only semi-intelligent one here. Look, when the drama is all done and we're down to sorting out the legalities I will still feel sadder for the bunch of you than any insults and such that have been cast in my direction.

I'm not some cheap prom date that any of you had back in high school, and I'm not going to reply to trolls or malicious idiots. We have gotten close on a couple posts to the spirit of this matter. I realize its a huge mess and that's why all I see in unraveling it are legal steps. A few people here tag me a sociopath. Read the description for a sociopath. I don't fit that descriptive, although I'm now sure that that will be all the more stressed. I don't care.

I am eccentric, and have been known to be somewhat generous in my earlier years. You guys really are simply only tools. Tools of "Gail's" and any other industry "professional" stooping so low. Focus on the good stuff that has happened here!
Tim Tolbolski has found his creative spirit and motivation! (Although Tim, you and Daph have your crackerjack of a lawyer investigate the ICC copyright, okay?
Lance Boucher is capable of pimpin' his IF site more ... AND having a few of you actually look at his hard work! Despite the mea things said, I have no control over personal karma.
Ian Shires found himself. Oh, and in all fairness, it looks like Small Press now has a revived image in, ummm... whatever Ian Shires is sellin' this month!
"Gail Simone" now has the BIGGEST thread on CBR. 'Course, a few of us that have seen her in person already knew that. :p But "Gail" knows where she's lied and fabricated portions of her story. She a BIG girl, so she realizes where that puts her. And what's a lie here and there when you're "Gail Simone"?
Ronee has found her path back, with a renewed energy and spirit. (Ro, I'll email you later to try *again to work out a payment understanding. You can then ask all your old and new friends if its, "Deal or No Deal!" Hell, write an open letter column about it.)
Glenn Barbis is OUT OF THE CLOSET! Tell them some of your comeback kid stories, why doncha?
Countless plebes are also re-energized to love and enjoy comic books!
So many other things to note too! But I have things to accomplish today.


A few more people hate in the world. So what!?

I must profess I am enjoying this thread. I will be publishing my book line before this year's end, and I still have enough real friends to survive this organized campaign of hatred.

Listen.

Here that sucking sound?

That's the life leaving this forum once this thread eats itself from the inside out. Good day! :DQuoting the whole post so it isn't lost when "Rick" decides to delete it.

Enough with the fat jokes, "Rick". It's almost as funny as the Beach/Bitch jokes. And by "almost as funny" I mean "not at all funny".

Pay the people you owe, "Rick". Like Patrick said, once you've paid them, you can deal with your imagined NDA issues. They are separate issues that should be addressed separately. You're more likely to get a court's sympathy if you walk in with clean hands, anyway.

clean hands doctrine (http://dictionary.law.com/default2.asp?selected=211)
n. a rule of law that a person coming to court with a lawsuit or petition for a court order must be free from unfair conduct (have "clean hands" or not have done anything wrong) in regard to the subject matter of his/her claim. His/her activities not involved in the legal action can be abominable because they are considered irrelevant. As an affirmative defense (positive response) a defendant might claim the plaintiff (party suing him/her) has a "lack of clean hands" or "violates the clean hands doctrine" because the plaintiff has misled the defendant or has done something wrong regarding the matter under consideration. Example: A former partner sues on a claim that he was owed money on a consulting contract with the partnership when he left, but the defense states that the plaintiff (party suing) has tried to get customers from the partnership by spreading untrue stories about the remaining partner's business practices.

[TCJohnson]

He's the same sort of Patriot as the current US President: Willing to fight to the death -just not his own.

And nothing is ever, ever his fault.

[orcafresh]

Egads, man! For a "writer" not to know the difference between hear and here?


My gosh! Egads! You're right! :( I'm soooooooooo ashamed...

[Matt Algren]

Actually, there are several larger threads.

Just sayin'.I think he means the thread getting the most traffic.

A good writer would have made that clear.

[orcafresh]

Quoting the whole post so it isn't lost when "Rick" decides to delete it.

Enough with the fat jokes, "Rick". It's almost as funny as the Beach/Bitch jokes. And by "almost as funny" I mean "not at all funny".

Pay the people you owe, "Rick". Like Patrick said, once you've paid them, you can deal with your imagined NDA issues. They are separate issues that should be addressed separately. You're more likely to get a court's sympathy if you walk in with clean hands, anyway.

Sound advice, Councelor! Only I wasn't actually callling anyone "fat" ... was I?

[TCJohnson]

I think he means the thread getting the most traffic.

A good writer would have made that clear.

A good writer would also have some chance of getting published.

[orcafresh]

Wow, something smells like asshole.

Quick! Go wipe yourself!

[orcafresh]

A good writer would also have some chance of getting published.

A good writer wouldn't only be writing funny books! lol

[Typo Lad]

A good writer wouldn't only be writing funny books! lol
You write comic books?

Do you have any evidence of this.

You know, published work?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Val has nothing to worry about. He'll have what he's asking for soon. And no, I don't know you either. I only know what you've said publicly about me. Again, karma, baby.

Thats cool...you know then I haven't insulted you . I just find it odd that they can't be paid without NDA's. Its a confusing story to be sure of.

If they were paid I'd even consider pulling Tales of the Spookey and push others to order it at my LCS. They'd have to order it since they really don't get many Indie books.

[TCJohnson]

A good writer wouldn't only be writing funny books! lol

So you just not only insulted the majority of the comic book writers out there, you just insulted yourself since you can't even do that.

[Daneault]

A good writer wouldn't only be writing funny books! lol
I think he just said that he's not a good writer. Interesting.

[TomStillwell]

Tom,

You have so little faith in people outside of the comic book box. Retailers will buy and sell what sells in the first place.

Yeah, that made no sense.

I have tons of faith in well respected people making decisions about properties with great potential to sell.

Those same people wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole nor anything you could possibly produce.

I guess you're also missing the fact you'll need to PAY for printing.

[TomStillwell]

Thats cool...you know then I haven't insulted you . I just find it odd that they can't be paid without NDA's. Its a confusing story to be sure of.

If they were paid I'd even consider pulling Tales of the Spookey and push others to order it at my LCS. They'd have to order it since they really don't get many Indie books.

You're assuming Diamond would take anything from Olney. That's a big assumption.

[orcafresh]

Actually one must read the story of Crossgen. Go to the indie forums and read an excellant article on how Crossgen launching had a rough road. Your starting a new company , Rick. Its not gonna be " snaps fingers " 50,000 books sold.

People have a low tolerance on new companies. Thats true online and off-line. The many don't wanna be sucked in to watch another company fail like Vallient or Defiant.

Oh, I realize that. My business plan isn't modeled after CrossGen's, despite what a few here think. lol

I've made inroads into niche markets where my books will do just fine without Diamond or even major retailer support. If I thought anyone here had their thumb on the pulse (no pun intended) of my company... I'd no doubt be concerned. But I'm not. And I'm not bragging either. Merely stating a fact.

Hey! I have an idea!

Everyone head over to Google Earth and let's set a time when I'll hold a message up outside. What do you say?

[TCJohnson]

You're assuming Diamond would take anything from Olney. That's a big assumption.

Diamond is against him too! It's a conspiracy!

[orcafresh]

You're assuming Diamond would take anything from Olney. That's a big assumption.

Oh, they'll accept it. We've checked. We fit their criteria.

[Typo Lad]

Google Earth isn't in real-time.

Dur.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

You're assuming Diamond would take anything from Olney. That's a big assumption.

Yeah doesn't Diamond want insurance down or something so they won't get stuck with books ? You'd know since you just put your series thru didn't you ? ;)

[TCJohnson]

Google Earth isn't in real-time.

Dur.

stop confusing him with facts!

[Ronée]

Im still waiting for your lawyers name and number and one satisfied employee Rick. Are u glossing over that?

[orcafresh]

Diamond is against him too! It's a conspiracy!

Don't you have a bus to catch? :D

[orcafresh]

Im still waiting for your lawyers name and number and one satisfied employee Rick. Are u glossing over that?

I'll email you later today. ;)

[orcafresh]

stop confusing him with facts!

Oh, so I'll put the message out there now and we'll see how long it takes to be visable. What do you say?

[Ronée]

I'll email you later today. ;)don't see why, when I will just make it public soon there after but okay.

[TomStillwell]

I'll email you later today. ;)

Don't hold your breath on that one.

That's like saying "The check is in the mail.", right Rick?

[orcafresh]

You write comic books?

Do you have any evidence of this.

You know, published work?

Sure do! Tell me that you have not done your homework!?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Oh, I realize that. My business plan isn't modeled after CrossGen's, despite what a few here think. lol

I've made inroads into niche markets where my books will do just fine without Diamond or even major retailer support. If I thought anyone here had their thumb on the pulse (no pun intended) of my company... I'd no doubt be concerned. But I'm not. And I'm not bragging either. Merely stating a fact.



Doesn't Diamond control most of the shipping now for comics ? I remember years ago when Marvel tried to set up their distribution system and bought Heroes World and it crashed and burned.

[MacQuarrie]

Sound advice, Councelor! Only I wasn't actually callling anyone "fat" ... was I?

You disgusting, pathetic weasel. You most certainly were. You just didn't do so directly. Your meaning was quite clear.

It's a pretty immature behavior, and jaw-droppingly hypocritcal given your own appearance. You don't look like you've ever skipped a Supersize Combo Meal.

[Matt Algren]

You know what I love? When people act like assholes and then put smilie thingies and 'lol' on their post so people won't notice them being assholes. It's fooling everyone! Genius!

[orcafresh]

Don't hold your breath on that one.

That's like saying "The check is in the mail.", right Rick?

I posted four checks yesterday, in fact! But our records don't indicate that we owe you, Tom Stillwell, a dime. Sorry.

[Smileybonex]

Hey! I have an idea!

Everyone head over to Google Earth and let's set a time when I'll hold a message up outside. What do you say?

Maybe it will be his Lawyer's details?

[TomStillwell]

Yeah doesn't Diamond want insurance down or something so they won't get stuck with books ? You'd know since you just put your series thru didn't you ? ;)

Diamond has a submission policy that Rick would never make it through.

One part of it pertains to whether or not the property, and indeed even the creators, are marketable. Still another pertains to quality of the work.

That two strikes again Olney. Add to it Rick's unprofessionalism and there'd be a rejection letter heading to Mohawk, NJ.

[TomStillwell]

I posted four checks yesterday, in fact! But our records don't indicate that we owe you, Tom Stillwell, a dime. Sorry.

No, because I make my own money buy working a paying job and publishing comics. Do I need to explain how that works since they are foreign concepts to you?

[Typo Lad]

Sure do! Tell me that you have not done your homework!?
All I know about you is that you've repeatedly cancled some comic con and were supposed to have a comic out that's yet to be published.

I can't find more about your products, because all you talk about is how everyone is out to get you and they'll be sorry, just you see.

Please, tell me, what published work do you have? Not pending, but actually published please.

Thank you.

[orcafresh]

You know what I love? When people act like assholes and then put smilie thingies and 'lol' on their post so people won't notice them being assholes. It's fooling everyone! Genius!

Matt, you are perfectly welcomed to think of me anyway and in any terms that makes you a better person. How's that? ;)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Diamond has a submission policy that Rick would never make it through.

One part of it pertains to whether or not the property, and indeed even the creators, are marketable. Still another pertains to quality of the work.

That two strikes again Olney. Add to it Rick's unprofessionalism and there'd be a rejection letter heading to Mohawk, NJ.

I know going thru them is hard as you posted about Honor Brigade. Once the winter ends I plan on asking my LCS if they can get your book in. ;)

[orcafresh]

All I know about you is that you've repeatedly cancled some comic con and were supposed to have a comic out that's yet to be published.

Well, contrary to what has been said -- I've only canceled 3 events since 2004. We did have a small MMC in June of 2005. We canceled this yaer for obvious personal reasons related to deaths in our family.

I can't find more about your products, because all you talk about is how everyone is out to get you and they'll be sorry, just you see.

Please, tell me, what published work do you have? Not pending, but actually published please.

You'll need to dig back into your small press and indy comics for that stuff! Or actually be a person that might have a few of ORCA's old newsletters.

Thank you.

[Typo Lad]

Going through Diamond is a challenge.

However, if you have a good rep, they can be very helpful. Despite my anthology's low sales, they were willing to carry the third and fourth issues.

Alas, the wallet walked away.

[orcafresh]

I know going thru them is hard as you posted about Honor Brigade. Once the winter ends I plan on asking my LCS if they can get your book in. ;)

Well...

I can only answer truthfully to what I know as of now. Mr. Stillwell? My mail goes to Mohawk, New York not New Jersey. If you need the address... :rolleyes:

[Typo Lad]

Well, contrary to what has been said -- I've only canceled 3 events since 2004. We did have a small MMC in June of 2005. We canceled this yaer for obvious personal reasons related to deaths in our family.

Is a "yaer" the same thing as a year?

Do you by any chance have the same mild dyslexia that I do? It causes me to see my words as I mean to type them, rather than as I actually did.

You'll need to dig back into your small press and indy comics for that stuff! Or actually be a person that might have a few of ORCA's old newsletters.

So you're unwilling to supply that information yourself?

[Matt Algren]

Matt, you are perfectly welcomed to think of me anyway and in any terms that makes you a better person. How's that? ;)The way I think of you has nothing to do with me. It has to do with you. Specifically, it has to do with you acting like an asshole and making fat jokes and using fourth grade humor (poorly) at every opportunity. Oh, and not paying people who've worked for you. And there's that whole fake lawyer thing.

There are probably a few things I'm forgetting, but you get the drift. It's simple, really. Don't act like an asshole and people won't treat you like you're acting like an asshole.

[orcafresh]

Going through Diamond is a challenge.

However, if you have a good rep, they can be very helpful. Despite my anthology's low sales, they were willing to carry the third and fourth issues.

Alas, the wallet walked away.

I suspect that TOTS #2 will be printed before TOTS #1 from what the timeline is looking like in getting this legal ball unraveled. But that's okay. We'll have a 3rd issue dne by this years end and once everyone is paid and happy it'll roll out to whichever distributors we're connected with.

I expect we'll have a press release or two coming early next month. I have filled the PR/marketing position vacated by Ms. Ronee Garcia Bourgeois, as we're slowly getting situated here to get back to business.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well...

I can only answer truthfully to what I know as of now. Mr. Stillwell? My mail goes to Mohawk, New York not New Jersey. If you need the address... :rolleyes:

The shop I visit monthly only goes thru Diamond, Rick. They rarely even order indie books. Too much of a risk for them. The owner is pretty tight and won't risk things . If I even request Honor Brigade doesn't mean he'll order it.

I believe what hurt the owner most was being stuck with a lot of Crossgen backstock. I know he tried to sell me a lot of it for 50 cents to 25 cents a copy back in the spring.

[orcafresh]

The way I think of you has nothing to do with me. It has to do with you. Specifically, it has to do with you acting like an asshole and making fat jokes and using fourth grade humor (poorly) at every opportunity. Oh, and not paying people who've worked for you. And there's that whole fake lawyer thing.

There are probably a few things I'm forgetting, but you get the drift. It's simple, really. Don't act like an asshole and people won't treat you like you're acting like an asshole.

Careful, your troll is showing... :D

[orcafresh]

The shop I visit monthly only goes thru Diamond, Rick. They rarely even order indie books. Too much of a risk for them. The owner is pretty tight and won't risk things . If I even request Honor Brigade doesn't mean he'll order it.

I believe what hurt the owner most was being stuck with a lot of Crossgen backstock. I know he tried to sell me a lot of it for 50 cents to 25 cents a copy back in the spring.

Well, say what you like about CrossGen, but they sure made some intelligent and eye-fetchin' product!

Nobody has equaled them in that right since.

[Matt Algren]

Careful, your troll is showing... :DSeriously, how is that trolling?

[Typo Lad]

I suspect that TOTS #2 will be printed before TOTS #1 from what the timeline is looking like in getting this legal ball unraveled. But that's okay.

Would it not then make more sense to solicit issue 2 as issue 1?

I expect we'll have a press release or two coming early next month. I have filled the PR/marketing position vacated by Ms. Ronee Garcia Bourgeois, as we're slowly getting situated here to get back to business.

Should your PR person maybe be the one posting here instead of you?

I don't mean to be rude, but frankly, you're hardly coming off as any sort of sympathetic character. You hurl names and insults. You threaten. You posture.

None of that makes me want to buy your books or give you the benifit of the doubt that there is some sort of massive conspiracy against you. A conspiracy including people I know and respect. Not just online, but off.

It does not help that I see that you have been affilliated with Rusty Gilligan, even if it is only as a con guest.

So why?

Why should I take your word over thiers?

[orcafresh]

Is a "yaer" the same thing as a year?

Do you by any chance have the same mild dyslexia that I do? It causes me to see my words as I mean to type them, rather than as I actually did.

Could be, I dunno. I'm officially, yet only sightly, handicapped. But I'm not getting into any of that so some troll or plebe can make fun of people with disabilities. I've seen enough of that here to make me sick.

So you're unwilling to supply that information yourself?

What information? About the attorney/law firm?

[Corrina]

About where one could obtain your previously published materials.

[Typo Lad]

Could be, I dunno. I'm officially, yet only sightly, handicapped. But I'm not getting into any of that so some troll or plebe can make fun of people with disabilities. I've seen enough of that here to make me sick.

If such things make you sick, then why are you mocking Ms. Simone for her size?

What information? About the attorney/law firm?

No. I am not, nor do I plan to be, engaged in legal proceedings with you. As such I do not need that data.

What I was asking for is a bibliography, if you will. You say you are a writer. I don't see any information, anywhere online, saying what you have written that has been published.

I'll show you mine if you show me yours, sir.

[Dreadstar]

After reading today's missive from Rick, I really have to believe his threats of legal action are all bluster and bluff.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well, say what you like about CrossGen, but they sure made some intelligent and eye-fetchin' product!

Nobody has equaled them in that right since.

They had some of the best talent and best assembled art. I agree on that. It wasn't my cup of tea so to speak but they did decent. Of course their business practices killed them. Can't do bad business and suspect to last and Alessi was a millionaire as well.

I remember when Ron Marz told me a story about CrossGen getting in Previews and Alessi threw a fit over being put at the 5th slot behind Dark Horse. He wanted Image's spot and wouldn't take it.

Its also said Alessi's tactics ended up alienating potential readers of Marvel & DC. That didn't help eithor. You should read that article .

[Ronée]

I expect we'll have a press release or two coming early next month. I have filled the PR/marketing position vacated by Ms. Ronee Garcia Bourgeois, as we're slowly getting situated here to get back to business.wow. Great job conning someone else! :D

[orcafresh]

Would it not then make more sense to solicit issue 2 as issue 1?

No, not really. I have to go by what I'm told, as to when the TOTS #1 will be resolved for all parties.

Should your PR person maybe be the one posting here instead of you?

Ronee will tell you, if she craed to, that I tend to post as in thinking outloud sometime. TightLip's PR person will announce what need be announced when the timing is right. It really isn't my total decision.

I don't mean to be rude, but frankly, you're hardly coming off as any sort of sympathetic character. You hurl names and insults. You threaten. You posture.

Nor do I... but have you read this thread?
Have you read this entire thread? :D You expect me to come here humble? Read the thread. The ENTIRE thread. Then make your, "Pot calling the kettle black" remarks. Heh, heh...

None of that makes me want to buy your books or give you the benifit of the doubt that there is some sort of massive conspiracy against you. A conspiracy including people I know and respect. Not just online, but off.
That, sir, is your choice. I have no intention of FORCING anyone to buy or read my TightLip product once its available.

It does not help that I see that you have been affilliated with Rusty Gilligan, even if it is only as a con guest.

So why?

Why should I take your word over thiers?

My word over theirs? Who? This bunch filling this thread with their gossip and falsehoods? Those that simply troll and go for the low blow?

It is still a free world. Maybe someday folks like "Mickey Mouse Martin" (apologies to the memory of Walt) will be bagged, tagged, and let free to roam Australia where most of the other ignorant comics folks come from.

You are free to make and take your choices. I'm not here to peddle my comics.

[orcafresh]

wow. Great job conning someone else! :D

No, it was easy. I just got their NDA signed and gave them an advance on their 2007 contract. :p

[Kozemp]

I've been watching this thread since I came across it in LITG last week, and been lurking without registering at CBR for a while now.

Firstly, I must thank everyone involved up to this point for being so entertaining.

I just wanted to share a couple stories, to get into the swing of things.

Story the first:

Last year I had the great fortune to be sued by my landlord. I say "great fortune" because my former landlord is a complete dickbag and was, to say the least, not the most intelligent of persons. To put it succinctly: the lease I signed stated that my landlord would pay for my heat. When it got cold and - to my surprise - there was no heat on, I called to inquire about the rapidly dropping temperatures in my apartment.

My landlord told me that I had to pay for heat. "No no," I said, "the lease says that YOU pay for the heat here." My landlord replied with, "your lease is wrong. You have to pay for heat."

My response to this was, "uhm, if the lease is wrong that is surely your problem and not mine. You wrote it, you signed it, you are responsible for heating this apartment. No renty for you until it gets above 42 degrees in here." (An actual temperature reading in my apartment last December.)

He responded to this by suing me. I called a lawyer that night when I got home from work and found the notice. That weekend I went to his office, sat down with him, gave him the whole story and all the associated paperwork.

His reaction was, and I quote: "I don't know who's the bigger idiot, your landlord or his lawyer."

Something the dear, insane Mr. Olney might want to consider.

The case was settled out of court, by the way, with me getting everything I wanted and my landlord getting nothing, and having to pay me to boot. Hoo-ah for justice. Say what you will, make jokes about them, but a good, honest lawyer is worth every penny you pay him.

Story the second:

I run a small professional theatre company here in Philadelphia. A production of the size we mount runs in the $10,000-15,000 range.

Until now, we have only done one show a year. I could do more - I could do many more - and all I would have to do is just start casting and rehearsing shows and promise everyone "you'll get paid at the end of the production," banking on a good take at the door to pay for salaries, rentals, equipment, etc.

I could do this, but I do not because one of the rules I set for the company when we started is that we don't start production until we have the entire budget IN the bank. Not only would I risk my standing in the Philly theatre community by doing a show and then not being able to pay anyone (if, for whatever reason, attendances were not what I'd hoped), but I'm certainly not going to a) take advantage of other artists, and b) risk harming other artists financially.

That and, you know, I'm not a fucking deadbeat.

Something else, perhaps, for the dear, insane Mr. Olney to consider.

JLK

[Kozemp]

Could be, I dunno. I'm officially, yet only sightly, handicapped. But I'm not getting into any of that so some troll or plebe can make fun of people with disabilities. I've seen enough of that here to make me sick.

So you would say that you're two quarts short of a crank case?

God, that's a great insult. Wish I could remember where I first read it...

JLK

[orcafresh]

They had some of the best talent and best assembled art. I agree on that. It wasn't my cup of tea so to speak but they did decent. Of course their business practices killed them. Can't do bad business and suspect to last and Alessi was a millionaire as well.

Well, not that I want to derail this thread, but...

CrossGen had a working ethic that people working there accepted and then pulled away from. Business practice always seemed okay during the times I was there.

I remember when Ron Marz told me a story about CrossGen getting in Previews and Alessi threw a fit over being put at the 5th slot behind Dark Horse. He wanted Image's spot and wouldn't take it.

Yeah, a power game. Mark aleesi also did MUCH, or tried to, for the fans of
his comics.
Its also said Alessi's tactics ended up alienating potential readers of Marvel & DC. That didn't help eithor. You should read that article .

I have. Our old www.orcafresh.net actually was one of the few CrossGen portals, and my "Comics in the Classroom" concept was the template for CrossGen's "Bridges" program. But those were the old days...

[orcafresh]

So you would say that you're two quarts short of a crank case?

God, that's a great insult. Wish I could remember where I first read it...

JLK

Yeah, another 2 post under their belt TROLL speaking up. Find your corner, smack! I actually have comics that are older, smell better, and are worth more than you are. Feh. :rolleyes:

[Dreadstar]

Please, Rick.

Please sue someone.


I beg you.

[orcafresh]

I've been watching this thread since I came across it in LITG last week, and been lurking without registering at CBR for a while now.

Yeah, you blew it. I won't be answering anything you post, smack. :rolleyes:

[Gail Simone]

Tom,

You have so little faith in people outside of the comic book box. Retailers will buy and sell what sells in the first place.

Right, and they're dying to sell books connected to a lying deadbeat hack with delusions of talent no one else sees.

Gail

[Kozemp]

Yeah, you blew it. I won't be answering anything you post, smack. :rolleyes:

Yeah... problem is, you already did respond to one. Before you wrote this.

Ah, irony. I will never grow tired of thee.

Your continued use of the word "smack" is interesting... to quote Inigo Montoya, "I do no think that word means what you think it means."

JLK

[Typo Lad]

No, not really. I have to go by what I'm told, as to when the TOTS #1 will be resolved for all parties.

If you say so.

Ronee will tell you, if she craed to,

And "craed" is supposed to mean... cared?

that I tend to post as in thinking outloud sometime. TightLip's PR person will announce what need be announced when the timing is right. It really isn't my total decision.

Well, speaking as a former publisher, aren't you a tad concerned about the negative PR your own comments are drumming up?

At the very least, maybe you should not just "think outloud" and remember everyone can read what you post?

Nor do I... but have you read this thread?
Have you read this entire thread? :D You expect me to come here humble? Read the thread. The ENTIRE thread. Then make your, "Pot calling the kettle black" remarks. Heh, heh...

My point is actually not "pot/kettle". My point is that just because one person is being childish does not mean all parties have to be.

If you don't want trollish behavior, then don't engage in it.

That, sir, is your choice. I have no intention of FORCING anyone to buy or read my TightLip product once its available.

Hnh. Again, speaking as a former publisher, I've never met anyone who didn't care about courting readers.

My word over theirs? Who? This bunch filling this thread with their gossip and falsehoods? Those that simply troll and go for the low blow?

Well, I have only your word that Mike Bullock, Scott Shaw, Tony Isabella and Gail Simone (among others) are lying, don't I?

I'm an Orthodox Jew. We have a concept, in Judaism, called Dan L'kav Z'chut. Basically, it means you should assume the best of everyone.

I don't know you and you don't know me. I want to assume the best of you. You have an entire forum here at your feet. You could defend yourself rationally and calmly. Instead you sling insults and threats. Surely you can see why some people have a problem with this?

It is still a free world. Maybe someday folks like "Mickey Mouse Martin" (apologies to the memory of Walt) will be bagged, tagged, and let free to roam Australia where most of the other ignorant comics folks come from.

It is, actually, very much not a free world. It is a world where the privlaged few rule the rest, even in the so-called land of the free.

You are free to make and take your choices. I'm not here to peddle my comics.

Why are you here then, sir?

[orcafresh]

After reading today's missive from Rick, I really have to believe his threats of legal action are all bluster and bluff.

Well, again, You are free to think as you please. I don't normally bluster and bluff at this stage of things. 'Course, you could ask some of my closer friends, but I suspect that they are enjoying or are in awe of this as much as you are.

[Gail Simone]

Well, I hope you're all happy! Because I allowed myself to get sucked into this negative thread, Rick has e-mailed me saying that my monies will be going to another 'professional' on the book! :D

That's wonderful, Rick! Just tell me which 'professional' that is! Huh? Which one of us have you decided to pay?

And here I was feeling sorry for you because I thought you were in a similar position to me, being laid off with no source of income. I still feel sorry for you, but only because it must be difficult to go through life with such an incredible lack of honor and ethics.

Putz.

Laid off TWICE, I'm told.

Rick's in for a bad week this week, as the real world comes crashing against Pretendville.

Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well, not that I want to derail this thread, but...

CrossGen had a working ethic that people working there accepted and then pulled away from. Business practice always seemed okay during the times I was there.

Well as this link shows a lot of it was over expansion and keeping books beyond their profit dates. Plus I can understand why people pulled away...they wanted paid.

http://www.captaincomics.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=2


Yeah, a power game. Mark aleesi also did MUCH, or tried to, for the fans of
his comics.

On some levels he was smart regarding comics in the schools/libraries. Its said CG locked up a lot of deals as well . Its just that he had no clue about publishing comics and wouldn't listen to the people who did.

[Gail Simone]

A good writer wouldn't only be writing funny books! lol

Ah.

Interesting.

Well, Rick...let's compare careers, shall we?

Nearly ever pro writer here has written for magazines, prose books, television and/or film and video games.

You've written for your idiotic wankrag website (poorly, and no one reads it) and ...oh yes, a bunch of webposts where you behave like a frothing lunatic.


You betray your closest friends, you lie to everyone who works for you.

No one wants your joke of a 'career' or your lack of talent, Rick.

Sorry.

Gail

[Mark Waid]

Wow. Wow. Wow. Did I misread, or did he just brag about having paid his new PR guy with money owed to creators?

He's "posted four checks." Uh-huh. Can someone else closer to the owed creators stay on top of this and let us know if this is true...and if the checks cleared?

Again, my offer stands. If he owes you, you have a legitimate case, and you want to sue Olney for what's owed, I'll stake you. I've already cut checks for some. I'll keep the checkbook handy.

[Gail Simone]

Oh, so I'll put the message out there now and we'll see how long it takes to be visable. What do you say?

Dance, monkey, dance.

Gail

[Karl J. Barnes]

I'll show you mine if you show me yours, sir.

Oh,you! Always wanting to flash your..."writings"!

[wishlish]

"Gail Simone" now has the BIGGEST thread on CBR. 'Course, a few of us that have seen her in person already knew that. :p But "Gail" knows where she's lied and fabricated portions of her story. She a BIG girl, so she realizes where that puts her. And what's a lie here and there when you're "Gail Simone"?

Rick, does your wife let you talk that rude about women? I have learned over the years never to trust a man who can't be polite to women.

And I'm your target audience. I spend over $400/month on comics. I buy indies. I scour Previews, reading every page of the text solicitations, looking for good comics to buy. Unlike many of the people on this thread, you don't owe ME any money. You should be pitching your book to me, not alienating me with your misogyny and rude rants.

Of course, this is assuming you can get your book distributed. I believe you can get it published; there are plenty of print-on-demand services who will take your money (*if you actually pay them, and they won't sign silly NDAs, either*). But distributed through Diamond? No way. I've seen publishers better than you get denied by Diamond. Nothing I've seen convinces me you can get into Previews. And since this thread has become notorious, the only way anyone would buy the book is out of the same curiosity people have for, say, Enron swag. I once thought that would be enough to get me to buy the book. No more.

You're an ugly, foul little man, Olney. I wouldn't buy your book if Alan Moore was writing it, Jack Kirby came back from the dead to draw it, and there was a hundred dollar bill inside.

[Ronée]

No, it was easy. I just got their NDA signed and gave them an advance on their 2007 contract. :pyes I was to have an advance as well. funny how u have the money to pay advances but not for services rendered.

[Scott Shaw!]

Two different people here have posted terrific pieces on Rick Olney being a sociopath. One consisted of quotes from a book. Both of these should be re-posted every couple of pages, just to remind everyone what we're dealing with here. (I've been trying to find 'em, to no success.) If you read this, would you please repost your thoughts about Rick the sociopath? As someone who's witnessed his patterns of behavior for many years, I think you've absolutely nailed the cause of why he's the way he is.

Rick Olney hasn't responded to reason, anger, friendship, outrage, name-calling, insults, pity, concern, etc. Unless we can force therapy and heavy medication on him, I've come to realize it's all wasted energy.

Let's put all of our energies into getting the victimized creators paid.

As for spreading the word throughout the entire funnybook industry about Tightlip Entertainment and Rick Olney's toxic track record, has anyone contacted Gary Groth or Kim Thompson? I'd think that the folks at THE COMICS JOURNAL would be dee-lighted to lift this rock and expose the stinkbug crawling beneath it. Admit it, the Rick Olney story is the perfect grist for THE COMIC JOURNAL's mill, and their coverage would certainly be seen and read throughout the industry.

Aloha,

Scott!

C'mon, people! A little help here, please?

Aloha,

Scott!

[Typo Lad]

Oh,you! Always wanting to flash your..."writings"!
I'm very proud of my "writings". They're popular too.

They're best read in the dark.

[Dreadstar]

I'm very proud of my "writings". They're popular too.

They're best read in the dark.

They're in the fiction section under "Short Subjects."

[Gail Simone]

I suspect that TOTS #2 will be printed before TOTS #1 from what the timeline is looking like in getting this legal ball unraveled. But that's okay. We'll have a 3rd issue dne by this years end and once everyone is paid and happy it'll roll out to whichever distributors we're connected with.

I expect we'll have a press release or two coming early next month. I have filled the PR/marketing position vacated by Ms. Ronee Garcia Bourgeois, as we're slowly getting situated here to get back to business.



hahaha!

This should be a gem. What loser would want to do PR for a lying deadbeat publishing the world's least original comics, in a spot where the previous employee was cheated, lied to and abused?

I bet it's someone AWESOME! Probably one of the top pr people in comics and not some friend of Rick's that no one's ever heard of!


Gail

[Gail Simone]

Well, say what you like about CrossGen, but they sure made some intelligent and eye-fetchin' product!

Nobody has equaled them in that right since.

And sold for shit and are despised by all who worked for them!

Gail

[wishlish]

Oh, I realize that. My business plan isn't modeled after CrossGen's, despite what a few here think. lol


Of course not. CrossGen waiting a few years before stiffing people; you did it straight out of the gate. Bravo!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I posted wrestling columns for 2 defunct sites back in 1999/2000. But no....not a pro. Wish I was. Did get a fan e-mail from a guy who told me he enjoyed a Bret Hart piece I did. So at least 1 person read my posts. :p

[Corrina]

Wow. Wow. Wow. Did I misread, or did he just brag about having paid his new PR guy with money owed to creators?



And he taunted Ronee (who he still owes money to) with this 'fact.'

I don't believe he has a lawyer or that he's hired anyone or that checks have cleared. And I think his definition of "soon" is not the definition in the dictionary.

[orcafresh]

If you say so.



And "craed" is supposed to mean... cared?

Yes. Thank you for pointing that out.


Well, speaking as a former publisher, aren't you a tad concerned about the negative PR your own comments are drumming up?

At the very least, maybe you should not just "think outloud" and remember everyone can read what you post?

I've said nothing that isn't true. As opposed to the 98% remainder of this thread. :)

Negative PR is not always a crushing blow.



My point is actually not "pot/kettle". My point is that just because one person is being childish does not mean all parties have to be.

If you don't want trollish behavior, then don't engage in it.

I'm not addressing trolls, although I'll probably toss them a crumb now and again. I'd actually like to see this thread become so cumbersome that Jonah has to actually place it on its own server. lol



Hnh. Again, speaking as a former publisher, I've never met anyone who didn't care about courting readers.

I've been counting readers since the laste 1980s. I'm not afraid. If anyone here has a chance of reaching and existing outside the 'box' that so many small press, Indy, and these "professionals" make their livings off of... it is me.



Well, I have only your word that Mike Bullock, Scott Shaw, Tony Isabella and Gail Simone (among others) are lying, don't I?

I'd think a smarter man/woman would view it all from WHAT THEY GAIN in making such bold remarks. "Gail Simone" has sold her soul and proverbial ass -- lock, stock and barrel for $100 dolars. So much for her professionalism.

I'm an Orthodox Jew. We have a concept, in Judaism, called Dan L'kav Z'chut. Basically, it means you should assume the best of everyone.

I don't know you and you don't know me. I want to assume the best of you. You have an entire forum here at your feet. You could defend yourself rationally and calmly. Instead you sling insults and threats. Surely you can see why some people have a problem with this?

Yes, and I appreciate your calm demeanor and suggestions. But trolls and plebes are fed by "Gail" and her sideshow of performing seals. These are people that only think they know the facts. They have no firm understanding other than they want to be that ONE person leading the angry villagers out of the village ... up the hill to confront Baron Frankenstein about his slightly out-of-control monster. Note: NO little girls have drown because of the monster. Nor shall any.



It is, actually, very much not a free world. It is a world where the privlaged few rule the rest, even in the so-called land of the free.



Why are you here then, sir?

R&R, my friend.

[Kozemp]

Oh, so I'll put the message out there now and we'll see how long it takes to be visable. What do you say?

For what it's worth, some images on Google Earth are as much as two years old.

So, go hold out your sign now, and in two years when we see it on GE, we'll check if your creditors have been paid, and we'll all have a good laugh.

Or, most likely, not.

JLK

[Typo Lad]

They're in the fiction section under "Short Subjects."
Please. What do you know about writing? I heard-tell that you ran out of ink years ago.

[TCJohnson]

Could be, I dunno. I'm officially, yet only sightly, handicapped. But I'm not getting into any of that so some troll or plebe can make fun of people with disabilities. I've seen enough of that here to make me sick.


Really? That's funny because the only person I have seen make fun of other people's abilities is you.

[Gail Simone]

After reading today's missive from Rick, I really have to believe his threats of legal action are all bluster and bluff.

He's full of it, yes.

But lots of other people are not. Have a nice week, Rick.

Gail

[orcafresh]

Please. What do you know about writing? I heard-tell that you ran out of ink years ago.

Yeah! And his pencil doesn't have any lead in it either! Or so the rumor goes...:D

[orcafresh]

He's full of it, yes.

But lots of other people are not. Have a nice week, Rick.

Gail

I will "Gail" ... enjoy the weather there.

[AIPman1]

should someone ask the NAME of this PR person?





bwa hahahahahahaa.....ok, I couldn't say that with a straight face.....

[Dreadstar]

Please. What do you know about writing? I heard-tell that you ran out of ink years ago.


I've gone back to the roots of my Hillbilly heritage and decided to revive the oral tradition.

[orcafresh]

Really? That's funny because the only person I have seen make fun of other people's abilities is you.

Sorry, TC. You can't get out of the troll tank that easily. :rolleyes:

[rummblestrips]

oh god!
There goes Rick again. I mean, does he not even realize that ANYONE who's reading the thread and was thinking, "I wonder if he's really an asshole", his OWN comments PROVE that he is?!?!
What a jerk jerk jerk.
If anyone lives in that part of New York, can you go over to his house and bitch slap him atleast twice?!
(Am I gonna get sued now? lol)
AND FOR THE RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember meeting Gail and the FIRST thing I noticed about her was her wonderful, kind face, I don't actually remember anything more than that.

[TCJohnson]

If such things make you sick, then why are you mocking Ms. Simone for her size?

As digusting as that is, what is worse is when he was making fun of another creator for being bi-polar.

[orcafresh]

should someone ask the NAME of this PR person?





bwa hahahahahahaa.....ok, I couldn't say that with a straight face.....

Sure! Its some scmuck name of ... Ian Shires. :D The patron saint of small press! bwa hahahahahahaa

[Kozemp]

Sorry, TC. You can't get out of the troll tank that easily. :rolleyes:

Yeah, TC. Christ, are you two quarts short of a crank case.

Remember when Rick made fun of Martin Oakley for being bipolar? And then claimed that it made him terribly upset when people made fun of people with disabilities?

Good times, man, good times.

JLK

EDIT: Please note that is not an endorsement of making fun of bipolar people, and CERTAINLY not a slight at Martin Oakley. I just reread it and realized it could be construed that way. That was certainly not my intent. I was just trying to point out what a hypocritical douchebag Mr. Olney is. If you want to make fun of a bipolar person, Mr. Olney, feel free to make fun of me. I could use yet another laugh at your expense.

[wishlish]

No, it was easy. I just got their NDA signed and gave them an advance on their 2007 contract. :p

If this is true, why haven't we heard from this person? Learning the identity of someone who's actually been PAID by you would go a long way to fixing your rep.

I posted earlier in the thread about how you've admitted, through your own words, to not paying ANY of your artists, even the "six" who are currently working for you and haven't broken the NDA. And now you've paid the new PR person (who hasn't come forward yet, of course, because PR people LOVE to keep their identities a secret) instead?

Exactly how does this make you look good, Rick?

[Ronée]

Sure! Its some scmuck name of ... Ian Shires. :D The patron saint of small press! bwa hahahahahahaaomg. how interesting. So again, you paid someone an advance knowing full well and admitting that you owe countless others money?

[TCJohnson]

Yeah, another 2 post under their belt TROLL speaking up. Find your corner, smack! I actually have comics that are older, smell better, and are worth more than you are. Feh. :rolleyes:

Why don't you sell them and pay the people you owe...before the courts force you to.

[wishlish]

Well, again, You are free to think as you please. I don't normally bluster and bluff at this stage of things. 'Course, you could ask some of my closer friends, but I suspect that they are enjoying or are in awe of this as much as you are.

Actually, you have a history of bluster and bluff at all stage of things. And your closer friends have posted here and haven't exactly made you look like a man of honor. Or a man at all, actually.

[orcafresh]

About where one could obtain your previously published materials.



Ummm.... Google?

[Dreadstar]

Why don't you sell them and pay the people you owe...before the courts force you to.


Hush, you.

I prefer to witness the latter.

[Ronée]

oh and Rick, I will be contacting Ian for comment, your PR person should be more than happy to get some publicity for you.

[Dreadstar]

oh and Rick, I will be contacting Ian for comment, your PR person should be more than happy to get some publicity for you.


cue Rick hastily E-mailing damage control...

[DungeonmasterJim]

I've pretty much be just lurking in this thread with a couple of posts here and there. But now i read this:

Oh, Tom....

And here I thought you were the only semi-intelligent one here.


Gee, thanks Mr. Olney. Is there any reason I would want to even look at one of TLE's books now that you've insulted almost everyone here in one lump sum?

Whatever happened to the old days where companies use to just say 'no comment'?

I've made inroads into niche markets where my books will do just fine without Diamond or even major retailer support. If I thought anyone here had their thumb on the pulse (no pun intended) of my company... I'd no doubt be concerned. But I'm not. And I'm not bragging either. Merely stating a fact.

With this kind of thinking I can't help but ask if you even think your books will cover productions costs? I realize that Diamond isn't the end all of distribution but you are attempting to publish comics and just seem to be forgoing Diamond with a brush off of your hand. Do you have a plan to distribute TLE's comics through your Orca group and claim them as some sort of write-off or something?

Oh, they'll accept it. We've checked. We fit their criteria.

Your books are not accepted until Diamond accepts them. Isn't this a bit of a bogus statement on your part?

I suspect that TOTS #2 will be printed before TOTS #1 from what the timeline is looking like in getting this legal ball unraveled. But that's okay. We'll have a 3rd issue dne by this years end and once everyone is paid and happy it'll roll out to whichever distributors we're connected with.

I expect we'll have a press release or two coming early next month. I have filled the PR/marketing position vacated by Ms. Ronee Garcia Bourgeois, as we're slowly getting situated here to get back to business.


This is a really scary sounding business plan. Currently, you have no stated way of distributing your books. You also contend that you have 7 employees (6 artists and a PR not counting that you might be paying yourself as an 8th employee) and a lawyer on retainer. You have also stated that you have or are planning to pay one employee an advance. While I realize there are start-up and on going costs for running a business it does not seem that there is anyway possible that you can run a business successfully with the statements that you have made here.

Considering the caution that people here have spread across the internet about TLE I cannot see how TLE can survive as a company with all this money being put into it, already having legal problems and with apparently not a single product to have yet hit the shelves.

Of course, since as I understand it although I could be wrong on this account, you seem to own TLE and everything suggests that you maybe have a middle class income with what's been stated, I seriously question TLE's cashflow status.

DM Jim aka James Roberts

[wishlish]

Ummm.... Google?

Actually, when you Google "Rick Olney", most of the items that come up are about how TLE hasn't paid any of its creators. No mention of published works are found.

[Kozemp]

Ummm.... Google?

Google search for "published by Rick Olney (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=ouy&q=%22published+by+rick+olney%22&btnG=Search)" - Zero results.

Google search for "written by Rick Olney (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=dFe&q=%22written+by+rick+olney%22&btnG=Search)" - one result, a book that (near as I can tell) does not, in fact, exist.

Koz, FTW.

JLK

[PatrickG]

Seriously...

Why not pay the people who supplied work and then file suit against people who breached their NDAs?

THAT would be a professional (if harsh) response.

But you admitted that the NDAs aren't required for payment.

Being in litigation with someone (which you aren't YET to my knowledge) shouldn't suspend any payments which are NOT in dispute.

[TomStillwell]

Ummm.... Google?

Which points to nothing but stale old crap you posted on your website and plenty of news about your continuing cycle of self destruction.

[orcafresh]

Yeah, TC. Christ, are you two quarts short of a crank case.

Remember when Rick made fun of Martin Oakley for being bipolar? And then claimed that it made him terribly upset when people made fun of people with disabilities?


Well, actually, I couldn't recall Marty's last name. And I didn't recall his bipolar condition either. I just knew that I had initially warned off a friend of mne that was thinking of getting involved with him to have Mr. Oakley publish some of his comics.

I don't think there is a code yet for people to behave on the Internet. Least wise, you can't tell it by this thread. This COULD have been an interesting conversation that might've opened up the matter and possibly kept it out of where it is headed, but trolls and plebes changed that. As did talents that broke their TightLip Entertainment NDA's.

EDIT: Please note that MY above remarks are not an endorsement of making fun of bipolar people, and CERTAINLY not a slight at Mr. Martin Oakley. I just reread it and realized it could be construed that way. That was certainly not my intent. I was just trying to point out what a ignorant person this "Kozemp" troll is. If you want to make fun of a bipolar person, "Kozemp", feel free to make fun of me., but I won't respond to your future posts.

[Typo Lad]

Yes. Thank you for pointing that out.

It's always my pleasure to point out someone else's mistakes.

I've said nothing that isn't true. As opposed to the 98% remainder of this thread. :)

But what have you actually "said"? Other than "No I didn't!", "ha-ha fatty/gay person/pinko" and "my lawyer who is secret will contact you"?

Not exactl quotes, of course.

You've avoided all questions and comments and been just as rude as anyone here could be.

Negative PR is not always a crushing blow.

I work in the media. Negative PR may not be the worst thing ever, but it puts companies out of business every day.

I'm not addressing trolls, although I'll probably toss them a crumb now and again.

Then you are addressing them.

You cannot have it both ways, sir.

Stick with your earlier repeated 'done with this threads". Be smart and walk away. If these are all falsehoods uttered by trolls, then why would you care? Especially if you believe negative PR is good PR.

I'd actually like to see this thread become so cumbersome that Jonah has to actually place it on its own server. lol

That's not very nice.

I've been counting readers since the laste 1980s.

"Courting" and "late".

I'm not afraid.

I don't believe I implied that you were.

If anyone here has a chance of reaching and existing outside the 'box' that so many small press, Indy, and these "professionals" make their livings off of... it is me.

Hypothetically speaking, of course.

Because as of right now, you've published nothing. At least nothing you care to mention when asked. Please, feel free to name titles you have written any time soon.

I would hazard to say that several here are outside "the box" but first I would have to know what box you meant.

I, myself was published in an anthology featuring Shannon Wheeler and Scott McCloud, two people who have certainly done quite a bit to get comics into the public eye.

I'd think a smarter man/woman would view it all from WHAT THEY GAIN in making such bold remarks. "Gail Simone" has sold her soul and proverbial ass -- lock, stock and barrel for $100 dolars. So much for her professionalism.

I'm going to be frank ("No, I want to be Frank. You always get to be Frank!"): Ms. Simone is not always my favorite person in the world. We have not always seen eye-to-eye on a personal level.

However, in professional ethics, I rather respect her.

For example, she went out of her way to help Leah Hernandez, someone who she was not, at the time, getting along with judging by evidence here and someone she certainly doesn't always agree with.

I see Gail as someone who will be the first to tell someone when they're being an idiot. Not out of malice, but out of the belief that the best cure for such things is honesty.

Yes, and I appreciate your calm demeanor and suggestions. But trolls and plebes are fed by "Gail" and her sideshow of performing seals.

I would like to point out what many have, which is that you are misusing the term "plebe". As the grandson of military men and a lover of the English language, I respecfully suggest you find another term.

These are people that only think they know the facts. They have no firm understanding other than they want to be that ONE person leading the angry villagers out of the village ... up the hill to confront Baron Frankenstein about his slightly out-of-control monster. Note: NO little girls have drown because of the monster. Nor shall any.

You droped an "ed" after "drown".

Please then, defend yourself. Rationally and calmly.

Explain why you dragged Tim, a person I happen to like, into this, knowing the garbage his personal life is going through. Did you really think that was a good idea? or even kind? Did you ask first? He says you didn't.

You see the mess Tim is in. Surely you could speak to your lawyers to find a way to pay the monies owed him (that you yourself say are owed) prior to the NDAs signing? Heck, make it conditional -you'll pay him and he'll sign the NDA. In that order.

Or do you not mind the thought of his small children being thrown out on the street?

R&R, my friend.

You sir, have a funny way of relaxing.

[TCJohnson]

EDIT: Please note that is not an endorsement of making fun of bipolar people, and CERTAINLY not a slight at Martin Oakley. I just reread it and realized it could be construed that way. That was certainly not my intent. I was just trying to point out what a hypocritical douchebag Mr. Olney is. If you want to make fun of a bipolar person, Mr. Olney, feel free to make fun of me. I could use yet another laugh at your expense.

Don't worry, anybody with a grain of sense would know what you were saying. Maybe not Rick, but everybody else.

[wishlish]

I've already emailed Ian to see if he'll confirm working for Rick.

[AIPman1]

Sure! Its some scmuck name of ... Ian Shires. :D The patron saint of small press! bwa hahahahahahaa
Uh, as if it actually needs to be said, but - Not for a million dollars paid up front to an offshore bank account and confirmed by Jesus Christ himself.

Do me a favor: I didn't say anything to you, don't talk to me. Thanks. I want nothing from you.

[orcafresh]

Please, Rick.

Please sue someone.


I beg you.

No need to beg. Its coming...

[Mark Waid]

Ronee, is this "Ian Shires" a real guy? If so, do you have contact information you can PM?

[MacQuarrie]

I expect we'll have a press release or two coming early next month. I have filled the PR/marketing position vacated by Ms. Ronee Garcia Bourgeois, as we're slowly getting situated here to get back to business.
Is that person expecting to get paid?

Oh, wait. Imaginary people get imaginary paychecks.

[orcafresh]

Laid off TWICE, I'm told.

Rick's in for a bad week this week, as the real world comes crashing against Pretendville.

Gail

Just bring it. :rolleyes:

[Typo Lad]

I've gone back to the roots of my Hillbilly heritage and decided to revive the oral tradition.

I always heard you guys were a little behind.

[orcafresh]

Ronee, is this "Ian Shires" a real guy? If so, do you have contact information you can PM?

Yes, his name is Ian Shires and you can reach him at: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com

Mark, I know right where you're headed and I embrace it. :rolleyes:

[Gail Simone]

C'mon, people! A little help here, please?

Aloha,

Scott!

Dirk Deppey, the genius behind the wonderful JOURNALISTA at tcj.com, has already taken note of Olney's bizarro behavior a few times.

I'm sure they think he's too small to bother with otherwise.

Gail

[wishlish]

C'mon, people! A little help here, please?

Aloha,

Scott!

Scott, as a long-time reader of TCJ, they've changed some of their journalism practices, and they focus now more on the worldwide comics market rather than the small world of the Direct Market. Dirk Deppey at Journalista is probably the best guy to get involved with this sort of thing, but honestly, I'd bet you'd get one day's link on their blog and little else. It's just not their thing anymore.

EDIT: Okay, I can be wrong.

[TCJohnson]

Ronee, is this "Ian Shires" a real guy? If so, do you have contact information you can PM?

He just posted a few posts above you as AIPman1. Ian seems like a decent guy who has had a few friendships ruined because of Mr. Olney's lies.

[Typo Lad]

Sure! Its some scmuck name of ... Ian Shires. :D The patron saint of small press! bwa hahahahahahaa
*ahem*

Just your friendly neighborhood Jew here to point out the term you are looking for is "Shmuck".

Please note that this word literally means male genetalia and should not be used in polite society.

re-reads thread

Ah. Never mind. Carry on then.

[orcafresh]

Is that person expecting to get paid?

Oh, wait. Imaginary people get imaginary paychecks.

Sorry, Mac!

:( You're in the troll tank, brother!

[Mark Waid]

Uh, as if it actually needs to be said, but - Not for a million dollars paid up front to an offshore bank account and confirmed by Jesus Christ himself.

Do me a favor: I didn't say anything to you, don't talk to me. Thanks. I want nothing from you.

Sorry to doubt your identity. I'm out of the loop. Dude, he's maligned your reputation by claiming that you're his PR guy, and I'm not joking. You might want to consider legal action.

[PatrickG]

Rick.

AGAIN.

What does signing the NDAs have to do with paying people for work?

Breaching the NDAs might give you grounds to sue but you still have to pay, even if you plan to win the money back in court for breach of the NDA.

Are you disputing this?

[TCJohnson]

Scott, as a long-time reader of TCJ,

Stop reading me! That's just creepy.

[Matt Algren]

Two different people here have posted terrific pieces on Rick Olney being a sociopath. One consisted of quotes from a book. Both of these should be re-posted every couple of pages, just to remind everyone what we're dealing with here. (I've been trying to find 'em, to no success.) If you read this, would you please repost your thoughts about Rick the sociopath? As someone who's witnessed his patterns of behavior for many years, I think you've absolutely nailed the cause of why he's the way he is.

I think this is one of them.
It is interesting how reluctant we are to say this about someone, but in this case, I think it is called for.

The man is evil.

He gets his pleasure from instilling anxiety and fear in others, even in the most petty of ways. Consider Joanne's reaction to dealing with him, the feeling queezy, and not wanting to go to cons because she might encounter him. The way he uses NDAs to intimidate people into silence, when talking with others would be a healing catharsis for them. The general toxicity of the soul he creates in just talking crap at people.

The man is a sociopath.

From The Sociopath Next Door (by Marth Stout)

THIRTEEN RULES FOR DEALING WITH SOCIOPATHS IN EVERYDAY LIFE

1: The first rule involves the bitter pill of accepting that some people literally have no conscience.

2: In a contest between your instincts and what is implied by the role a person has taken on - educator, doctor, leader, animal lover, humanist, parent -- go with your instincts.

3: When considering a new relationship of any kind, practice the Rule of Threes regarding the claims and promises a person, and the responsiblities he or she has.
One lie, one broken promise, or a single neglected responsibility may be a misunderstanding instead. Two may involve a serious mistake. But three lies says you're dealing with a liar, and deceit is the linchpin of conscienceless behavior. Cut your losses and get out as soon as you can.

4: Question authority.

5: Suspect flattery.
Compliments are lovely, especially when they are sincere. In contrast, flattery is extreme and appeals to our egos in unrealistic ways. It is the material of counterfeit charm, and nearly alwyas involves an intent to manipulated. Manipulation through flattery is sometimes innocuous and sometimes sinister. Peek over your massaged ego and remember to suspect flattery.

6: If necessary, redefine your concept of respect.

7: Do not join the game.
Intrigue is a sociopath's tool. Resist the temptation to compete with a seductive sociopath, to outsmart him, psychoanalyze, or even banter with him.

8: The best way to protect yourself from a sociopath is to avoid him, to refuse any kind of contact or communication.

9: Question your tendency to pity too easily.

10: Do not try to redeem the unredeemable.

11: Never agree, out of pity or for any other reason, to help a sociopath concel his or her true nature.
"Please don't tell," often spoken tearfully and with great gnashing of teeth, is the trademark plea of thieves, child abusers -- and sociopaths. Do not listen to this siren song. Other people deserve to be warned more than sociopaths deserve to have you keep their secrets. If someone without conscience insists that you "owe" him or her, recall what you are about to read here: "You owe me" has been the standard line of sociopaths for thousands of years, quite literally, and is still so.

12: Defend your psyche.
Do not allow someone without conscience, or even a string of such people, to convince you that humanity is a failure. Most human beings do possess conscience. Most human beings are able to love.

13: LIVING WELL IS THE BEST REVENGE..

*****

I know that was long, but after the length of this thread, I felt it needed to be laid out. We've now seen enough evidence to make it clear that there is precious little reason for anyone to continue playing his game. As Gail said: stop being afraid.

And in support of this thread being this long, and of value, there is a very REAL CATHARSIS in stepping up, speaking about what happened to you and GETTING IT OUT OF YOUR system. Every moment you stay silent is another moment you live with his poison in your psyche.

Look around here, and see what healing is going on. Relationships being restored. New friendships being found. People finding out about the good work and craftsmanship of others who had slunk to corners after being psychically battered by Olney.

It's a new year. Throw away the old garbage.

Whew. Okay, enough of the sermon. :)

[Typo Lad]

Ummm.... Google?

I have had no luck with Google, which is why I asked you directly.

If you would please take a moment from you 'R&R" to let someone know where you've been published, it would be most appreciated.

I assure you I am not interested for any "trollish" reason, but out of professional interest.

[orcafresh]

Ah.

Interesting.

Well, Rick...let's compare careers, shall we?

Nearly ever pro writer here has written for magazines, prose books, television and/or film and video games.

You've written for your idiotic wankrag website (poorly, and no one reads it) and ...oh yes, a bunch of webposts where you behave like a frothing lunatic.


You betray your closest friends, you lie to everyone who works for you.

No one wants your joke of a 'career' or your lack of talent, Rick.

Sorry.

Gail


"Gail" I spent more than enough time on MY back in the Marines. You are out of context on "closest" as you were in your emails to Dennis. You're full of lies. People that know me know that.

[Jack Zodiac]

I'm not some cheap prom date that any of you had back in high school-

No, but your mother is! OSNAP!

Listen.

Here that sucking sound?

That's the life leaving this forum once this thread eats itself from the inside out. Good day! :D

Really? I thought it was your mother! OSNAP!


Tim Tolbolski has found his creative spirit and motivation! (Although Tim, you and Daph have your crackerjack of a lawyer investigate the ICC copyright, okay?
Lance Boucher is capable of pimpin' his IF site more ... AND having a few of you actually look at his hard work! Despite the mea things said, I have no control over personal karma.
Ian Shires found himself. Oh, and in all fairness, it looks like Small Press now has a revived image in, ummm... whatever Ian Shires is sellin' this month!
"Gail Simone" now has the BIGGEST thread on CBR. 'Course, a few of us that have seen her in person already knew that. :p But "Gail" knows where she's lied and fabricated portions of her story. She a BIG girl, so she realizes where that puts her. And what's a lie here and there when you're "Gail Simone"?
Ronee has found her path back, with a renewed energy and spirit. (Ro, I'll email you later to try *again to work out a payment understanding. You can then ask all your old and new friends if its, "Deal or No Deal!" Hell, write an open letter column about it.)
Glenn Barbis is OUT OF THE CLOSET! Tell them some of your comeback kid stories, why doncha?
Countless plebes are also re-energized to love and enjoy comic books!
So many other things to note too! But I have things to accomplish today.


Hearing you talk about karma is like hearing Bush talk about peace, love, and understanding. And let's hope one of the many things you have to accomplish today include (a)removing your head from your ass and (b)paying the people you fucked over.

[orcafresh]

I think this is one of them.

Careful! You could be setting up a defense here. :rolleyes:

[TCJohnson]

Olney has gone to great lengths in the past to discredit my efforts at building a distribution network for small press and indies. I just wish I could go about that without the shadow of this guy on my back. What a pain!

Just pointing this out to show what Ian Spires thinks of Olney

[Gail Simone]

And he taunted Ronee (who he still owes money to) with this 'fact.'

I don't believe he has a lawyer or that he's hired anyone or that checks have cleared. And I think his definition of "soon" is not the definition in the dictionary.

Talk about rubbing the salt in.

What a grotesque 'man.'

Gail

[Ronée]

so now he is making up positions for REAL people who hes already fucked over? geez Rick you need help. Of course, nothing I, or anyone could write about you would have the impact or show just how insane you are than your own posts and stupid retorts.


Oh, and I am still waiting on my email you promised me hours ago... did that get lost with my check?

[Typo Lad]

I don't think there is a code yet for people to behave on the Internet.

I heartily disagree, sir.

There is one code to live one's life by, be it online or offline.

"That which is hateful to yourself, do not do to others*."

While no one can force one to live by this code, the world would be a far better place if we all tried.



"... that is the Torah. The rest is commentary."-Hillel the Elder

[orcafresh]

Hearing you talk about karma is like hearing Bush talk about peace, love, and understanding. And let's hope one of the many things you have to accomplish today include (a)removing your head from your ass and (b)paying the people you fucked over.

Contrary to what you want to believe and make your mantra ... nobody has been "fucked over" yet.

[Kozemp]

Well, actually, I couldn't recall Marty's last name. And I didn't recall his bipolar condition either. I just knew that I had initially warned off a friend of mne that was thinking of getting involved with him to have Mr. Oakley publish some of his comics.

And I quoteth, from Mr. Olney's statement to Rich Johnson:

"Oakley is known to be two quarts shy of full crank case." - LITG (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2666), 12/11/06

Remember that time Rick Olney didn't lie about something? God, that was great.

If you want to make fun of a bipolar person, "Kozemp", feel free to make fun of me., but I won't respond to your future posts.

In case you hadn't noticed, I have made fun of you, repeatedly. Then again, I doubt anyone is surprised you haven't noticed.

And, by the way, that's the second time you've said you won't respond to me. Remember the time Mr. Olney kept a promise he made more than once? God, that was great.

JLK

[Matt Algren]

"Gail" I spent more than enough time on MY back in the Marines....

Wow. I was sure we'd seen you stoop your lowest. Please tell me this is as low as you'll go.

[wishlish]

Stop reading me! That's just creepy.

But the font is so...pretty...

[TCJohnson]

Sorry to doubt your identity. .

I am sure Ian Spires understands that it is wise to doubt every word coming out of Rick Olney's mouth, including the words "I", "and", "the" and "marine."

[kingdom2000]

Couple random thoughts based on the last 3 or so pages of noise.

1) Still no lawyer name? Until you prove your lawyer actually exists you really need to stop with the legal threats. If it exists, provide his name. That is just common practice and there is no reason to hide the identity of this person.

2) Diamond will distribute for any publisher. They don't particularily care. However, I think there is now a 500 min order or they will no longer distribute for you. 500 doesn't seem like much but as several no defunct publishers will tell you, its harder to get that number then it looks.

3) Crossgen was a great idea and its sad its failed. However, the reality is it never overcame that initial wave of bad PR. The comics world is actually a very small community and it often tends to be an unforgiven one. Where normally any press is good press, that doesn't apply here.

Its simply too small. You are also looking at a community where familarity often drives sales. Since very few even know what "the Spooky" is, that familiarity would have come from your creators which you have since pissed upon.

My point is your line is pretty much doomed from day one because of the bad PR you have caused by your non payments. You already have a very difficult uphill battle to begin with producing a comic book. To put it another way, trying to make a successful comic as an unknown publisher is like climbing Mount St. Helens. Where most try to do it in good weather conditions to increase the chances of success, you essentially decided to wait until the storm of the century decended on the mountain before trying to climb it. That simply put, makes you a moron.

4) Go ahead and sue. Be aware though that depending on what you sue for, the defendents will have the right of discovery. That means access to your documents, your pay history, your various accounts, your assets, your history, your current and future plans for the company, pretty much anything that might be relevant to the case. And as a good lawyer will tell you, its real easy to make anything seem relevant. So as many have pointed out, yes please sue. We can't wait.

But I still maintain the theory that your lawyer doesn't exist and its all smoke and mirrors to get people to back down, tuck tail, and leave you alone. By doing that, you win.

[DungeonmasterJim]

"Gail" I spent more than enough time on MY back in the Marines.


Help, I do not know what this statement is suppose to mean. My gut feeling though is that Mr. Olney has gone from fat jokes to now suggesting that Gail Simone used sex to get into the business. I ask this in all seriousness.

And again I'm wondering to myself, 'what comic book publisher would EVER suggest and say something like this and think that they will have a successful business venture?

DM Jim aka James Roberts

[Jack Zodiac]

Tom,

You have so little faith in people outside of the comic book box. Retailers will buy and sell what sells in the first place.

Yeah, like stuff that exists. Which, currently, Tales of the Spooky doesn't.

Wow, something smells like asshole.

Actually, that was me. You're right, though, something does reek here. I'm getting faint hints of "douchebag."

Mr. Olney,

You do realize that you are acting very unprofessional, right? Do you also realize that this does not help your case?

Does your council know you planned on coming here to sling insults about someone's girth?

I doubt very much any court is going to give a rat's ass how someone handles themself on the Internet. Which is great, because that means everyone getting fucked over by Rick can be as unprofessional back at him!

Egads, man! For a "writer" not to know the difference between hear and here?

Yes, we've already established that Rick has the writing talent of a six year old with a slightly bigger vocabulary.

Val has nothing to worry about. He'll have what he's asking for soon. And no, I don't know you either. I only know what you've said publicly about me. Again, karma, baby.

And I don't even think he knows exactly what karma means, philosophically or literally, because... well, c'mon, how goddamn stupid do you have to be to fuck over a bunch of people and then rant at others about karma? Pretty fucking stupid.

[wishlish]

2) Diamond will distribute for any publisher. They don't particularily care. However, I think there is now a 500 min order or they will no longer distribute for you. 500 doesn't seem like much but as several no defunct publishers will tell you, its harder to get that number then it looks.


No longer true. Diamond has refused distributing quite a few small publishers as of late.

[Jack Zodiac]

Contrary to what you want to believe and make your mantra ... nobody has been "fucked over" yet.

I think a few would disagree with you there, like... oh, say, the people who've come here and showed us all how you've fucked them over.

[Mark Waid]

Contrary to what you want to believe and make your mantra ... nobody has been "fucked over" yet.

REALLY? NO ONE? ARE YOU DELUSIONAL? THERE IS NOT ONE PERSON ON YOUR LIST OF CREDITORS, NOT ONE, WHO DID EVERYTHING YOU REQUIRED OF THEM TO BE PAID AND YET WENT UNPAID UP UNTIL NOW?

[Gail Simone]

Sure! Its some scmuck name of ... Ian Shires. :D The patron saint of small press! bwa hahahahahahaa

What the hell is a 'scmuck?'

Gail

[Typo Lad]

Actually Jack, there have been a few court cases over flame wars, as I recall.

Plus, in the context of a larger court case it could be deemed relevant.

of course, I'm not a lawyer. Someone should check with Mister Corinna.

Mister Olney -

So when you say no-one has been "fornicated" over, does that mean you will be paying Tim the monies owed so that he does not have to face eviction? That would be very helpful.

[TCJohnson]

ARE YOU DELUSIONAL?


No offense to you Mr. Waid but...well...Duh!

[Magneto_X]

Do you by any chance have the same mild dyslexia that I do? It causes me to see my words as I mean to type them, rather than as I actually did.


Despite your mild dyslexia you spell better then "Rick" does.

If you hadn't mentioned that you had dyslexia I never would have realised. :D

[Mark Waid]

No offense to you Mr. Waid but...well...Duh!

I know. I know. Asked and answered.

[Kozemp]

What the hell is a 'scmuck?'

Gail

I'm not ENTIRELY sure, Gail, but I think you're also supposed to be one.

I dunno... it can be quite difficult to penetrate the labyrinthine depths of Mr. Olney's mind.

I'll wait while he gets a dictionary and looks up "labyrinthine."

I'll also wait while he asks someone what a "dictionary" is.

I'll continue to wait while he looks up "scumbag deadbeat" in selfsame dictionary.

JLK

[Karl J. Barnes]

What the hell is a 'scmuck?'

Gail

South Carolina Muck??

[Typo Lad]

Despite your mild dyslexia you spell better then "Rick" does.

If you hadn't mentioned that you had dyslexia I never would have realised. :D
It's not a spelling issue for me, but a cognitive one.

I honestly don't see the words I type. Rather I see the words I meant to type.

Rather ironic for someone who's grandparents were big parts of the Gestalt movement.

[Hybrid2]

OMG!:eek: wow. that's mature.

I would change the t for a n,in mature.

[TCJohnson]

It's not a spelling issue for me, but a cognitive one.

I honestly don't see the words I type. Rather I see the words I meant to type.



I am the same way...although in my case it really shows up in numbers. When I was in grade school I really had a problem understanding why 4-2 and 2-4 would provide different results...and I will still do things like call "52" to "25" and won't realize my mistake until somebody else points it out.

[Matt Algren]

Help, I do not know what this statement is suppose to mean. My gut feeling though is that Mr. Olney has gone from fat jokes to now suggesting that Gail Simone used sex to get into the business. I ask this in all seriousness.That's what I got from it too.

But then I thought about it some more, and realized that he's also saying that he was a whore in the Marines. The kind of whore who spends a lot of time on his back, if you know what I mean, and I think you do*. Now I figure that either he didn't realize the implications of his little put down, or that's not what he meant.







* It means he's a bottom.

[Jack Zodiac]

If I thought anyone here had their thumb on the pulse (no pun intended) of my company... I'd no doubt be concerned.

Your company has a pulse? Pfft! It's deader than the hooker in my trunk, and she was there when I bought the thing.

Oh, they'll accept it. We've checked. We fit their criteria.

One of their criteria is "douchebag?" Good to know!

Don't hold your breath on that one.

That's like saying "The check is in the mail.", right Rick?

Ouch, I bet that burns worse than when Rick pees.

You know what I love? When people act like assholes and then put smilie thingies and 'lol' on their post so people won't notice them being assholes. It's fooling everyone! Genius!

It's worked for me! :D

I posted four checks yesterday, in fact! But our records don't indicate that we owe you, Tom Stillwell, a dime. Sorry.

Watch those checks bounce faster than a fat kid down a flight of stairs!

No, because I make my own money buy working a paying job and publishing comics. Do I need to explain how that works since they are foreign concepts to you?

Yeah, that's it, Tom! Work the body! Under the ribs!

[Typo Lad]

I am the same way...although in my case it really shows up in numbers. When I was in grade school I really had a problem understanding why 4-2 and 2-4 would provide different results...and I will still do things like call "52" to "25" and won't realize my mistake until somebody else points it out.
Ah. Dyscalcula. I have that too. MUCH worse. I have to write out all my math. Evne basic addition. It's embarassing and frankly, emasculating.

[Kozemp]

It's not a spelling issue for me, but a cognitive one.

I honestly don't see the words I type. Rather I see the words I meant to type.

Rather ironic for someone who's grandparents were big parts of the Gestalt movement.

This may seem like an odd thought, but have you seen an optometrist about it?

My mother was an optometrist lo these many years ago, and her specialty was helping learning-disabled people be able to read and write (and now, I would imagine, type) better. She doesn't practice anymore, and I honestly can't remember how she did what she did (and, as she is a doctor and I a lowly theatre person, probably still wouldn't understand), but I know she trained other OD's in that area and had some more-than-moderate success.

Definitely something to look into, if you have not done so already.

JLK

[Typo Lad]

Y
Watch those checks bounce faster than a fat kid down a flight of stairs!


Can we please stop mocking the tubbies? Some of my best friends have extra padding!

[AIPman1]

Sorry to doubt your identity. I'm out of the loop. Dude, he's maligned your reputation by claiming that you're his PR guy, and I'm not joking. You might want to consider legal action.

I've come close to legal action in the past with Olney. Didn't have anyone to back the bills at the time, 3 years ago...

I really don't want anything from Onley...I'm only watching this thread because my name was brought up in it early on, and I had to set the record straight. I keep watching just for situations like this one.

I've never seen anything like this thread. Ever. And I've been involved in some doozy flame wars. But, uh...most of them ALSO involved Olney...

[Gail Simone]

"Gail" I spent more than enough time on MY back in the Marines. You are out of context on "closest" as you were in your emails to Dennis. You're full of lies. People that know me know that.

People that KNOW you are posting me emails about your grotesque lack of ethics AND about how you ran Orca into the ground.

Several of the people that KNOW you are posting here about what a lying deadbeat you are.

Just in case you can't read, which seems very possible, given your mangling of the language.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Contrary to what you want to believe and make your mantra ... nobody has been "fucked over" yet.

Not even the people who were supposed to be paid fifteen days after they completed the work?


My god, you're an idiot.

Gail

[Typo Lad]

This may seem like an odd thought, but have you seen an optometrist about it?

It's not odd at all. I have, in fact. That's how I found out I have very little depth perception.

That, and the occasional smashing into a narror doorframe.

Definitely something to look into, if you have not done so already.

Appreciated. I plan on doing so for my kid.

Welcome to CBR, btw.

[Gail Simone]

...

Wow. I was sure we'd seen you stoop your lowest. Please tell me this is as low as you'll go.

I'm not surprised. Despite his women in comics panel at the Shitty Mini Con, he's resorted to seriously woman-hating bashing many times, not just against me, either.

I mean, does he LOOK like women have been kind to him?


Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

It's not odd at all. I have, in fact. That's how I found out I have very little depth perception.

That, and the occasional smashing into a narror doorframe.




My right eye has no vision and hasn't since I suffered a cut and stitched in my eyebrow as a little kid. I have a stigmatism and have considered getting those cool new contacts out but have decided against it. Since I feel their too tough to put in. ( never wore contacts before so worried there)

[Kozemp]

It's not odd at all. I have, in fact. That's how I found out I have very little depth perception.

That, and the occasional smashing into a narror doorframe.


Appreciated. I plan on doing so for my kid.

Welcome to CBR, btw.

Thanks. I've actually been lurking here for... wow, for a lot of years - I actually remember when Jonah first started the site - and I think I may have registered with another handle a long while back, but generally I avoid getting into message board stuff, since it invariably ends up being bad for my blood pressure. Us "padded" people need to be careful about that sort of thing.

This, though... this was too good to resist. Some of my favorite creators fighting the good fight, standing up for victims of a lying scumbag, and generally proving themselves to be outstanding human beings? I only wish some of that would rub off on me.

JLK

[AIPman1]

I am sure Ian Spires understands that it is wise to doubt every word coming out of Rick Olney's mouth, including the words "I", "and", "the" and "marine."

uh, my last name is SHIRES...for the record.

[Corrina]

South Carolina Muck??

From my time in New Jersey, I think schmuck is a Yiddish word, roughly, someone easily taken advantage of, someone not smart enough to know when others are deceiving him.

So Rick Olney's words meant Ian Shires is allowing himself to be taken advantage of by Rick and Rick was gloating about that fact.

He may have *meant* something different but that's the meaning of what was actually posted. Freudian slip, perhaps.

(I like the other yiddish words much better. They have a great sound. Like schlep. Great word.)

[Jack Zodiac]

Well, contrary to what has been said -- I've only canceled 3 events since 2004.

Only three in three years? Not bad! I think that's a hat trick!

Well, say what you like about CrossGen, but they sure made some intelligent and eye-fetchin' product!

Nobody has equaled them in that right since.

We're not criticizing their products. We're criticizing their management, and how they, y'know, screwed a few people. You know!

Seriously, how is that trolling?

Remember, Matt, Dick here thinks that what he's doing is perfectly professional and that the people here who got fucked by him will get what's coming to them. I think... he might be from Bizarro World. Or at least Asshole County.

If such things make you sick, then why are you mocking Ms. Simone for her size?

Professional! Karma! Bizarro World! Asshole County!

Rick's in for a bad week this week, as the real world comes crashing against Pretendville.

Is that in Asshole County or Bizarro World?

Rick, does your wife let you talk that rude about women? I have learned over the years never to trust a man who can't be polite to women.

I'm sure his wife doesn't know he's an asshole on the Internet, too, just a walking, talking bag of asshole in real life.

[Sarah Beach]

Gail's a big girl? I'm.... um.... taller than her. Yeah, that's it. ;) (Well, I am! I'm 5' 8".)

Jim, yeah, I think you're reading his "back" comment correctly - over on Dixonverse, in a post I didn't think to copy before deleting, he accused her of doing porn. Yuck.

Scott: the rules for dealing with the creature have been copied by someone else. Instead of trying to find the earlier post of the other part of it, again, from The Sociopath Next Door -- the 8 sociopathic symptoms, in decending order:
Fails to conform to social norms
Aggressive
Reckless
Impulsive
Fails to honor financial obligations
Inconsistent work
Never monogamous
Lacks remorse

********
Five of those traits we have seen just this morning in his posts (social norms, aggression, recklessness, impulsivity, lack of remorse), two are known on the basis of recent months behavior (failing to honor financial obligations & inconsistent work). The last....? Does it matter? 7 out of 8 is not a promising indicator.

*************
And here I thought it would be a quiet week.

[Typo Lad]

ECW: Contacts are easy.

Corrina: Nah. It literally means "Male Member" but coloqually it means a jerk or loser.

[Jack Zodiac]

Ummm.... Google?

I Googled "Rick Olney" and all I got was donkey sex.

[MacQuarrie]

hahaha!

This should be a gem. What loser would want to do PR for a lying deadbeat publishing the world's least original comics, in a spot where the previous employee was cheated, lied to and abused?

I bet it's someone AWESOME! Probably one of the top pr people in comics and not some friend of Rick's that no one's ever heard of!


"friend of Rick" = "sock puppet".

[Typo Lad]

Really?

Link me!

[Kozemp]

Also, Gail, please note that I am still going to sue you for all the time you've made me spend reading this thread.

This will take place once you sign my NDA, get me to promise to pay your attorney's fees, realize that I will never pay your attorney's fees, and realize that I don't have a lawyer and won't actually be suing you.

After all that - see you in court, you evil pen-name-user!

JLK

[Jack Zodiac]

Can we please stop mocking the tubbies? Some of my best friends have extra padding!

Not mocking! I love fat kids. It's just a well known fact that they bounce well. :)

Alright, I gotta' get to work. Don't do anything too stupid while I'm gone, Rick! I hate missing out!

[Scott Shaw!]

Thanks, Sarah. I hope everyone takes the time to read the signs of a sociopath and to see how Rick Olney conforms to almost all of 'em...and the day's not even half over yet!

Brrr. As Count Floyd always says, "Aoooh, scary stuff, keeds!"

Aloha,

Scott!

[TCJohnson]

uh, my last name is SHIRES...for the record.

My apologies.

[AIPman1]

Let me state one more time: I DO NOT, HAVE NOT, and WILL NOT work for Rick Olney. He was asked to be a co-admin of a group I started when we thought he was ligit, 5 years ago, we kicked him out for proving himself otherwise 3 years ago...and I am only here to make sure people KNOW THAT.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

ECW: Contacts are easy.



I know Typo , I have cousins who use them and swear by them. But I'm a cowardly guy. I only have one eye and I'd hate to screw that up. :p

[Matt Doc Martin]

First: good morning, jackass! Stolen any candy from babies yet today?

(I know, I know...I am such a troll. The difference is, I walk away from the computer, and I am just like everyone else. YOU waddle away and you are still a deadbeat, cowardly, mouth-breathing shit stain.)

Secondly: Have you paid Doc Absurd yet ANY of the money you owe? There is NO NDA involvement there and he could use the money. You may have to skip a Happy Meal or three, but maybe the real wage earners in the house could float you a loan. Unless they don't trust you either.

Item the third: Still no attorney name? If he exists, is he ashamed to be made known, or much like my signature, are you talking out of your ass again? It would explain the booming voice and all.

And please, call me "Sir", dipshit.

[orcafresh]

Thanks, Sarah. I hope everyone takes the time to read the signs of a sociopath and to see how Rick Olney conforms to almost all of 'em...and the day's not even half over yet!

Brrr. As Count Floyd always says, "Aoooh, scary stuff, keeds!"

Aloha,

Scott!

Oh, Scott... I want to be just like you when I grow up and out. :p

[Matt Doc Martin]

Edit: Double post.


And a fat man makes fat jokes. Talk about self-loathing!


Of course, I would hate to be me if I were dick.

[orcafresh]

Only three in three years? Not bad! I think that's a hat trick!

2004 because of a heart ailment. 2006 because of three deaths in my immediate family from late July to October.

[MacQuarrie]

Sorry, Mac!

:( You're in the troll tank, brother!

Hmm.

I wasn't in the troll tank when I told you to put down the shovel 2900 posts ago?

I wasn't in there when I called you a fucking moron two days ago?

It must be damn hard to get into that tank. But I sure have some distinguished company. A lot of good and decent people that I admire and respect, all brought together by their shared understanding that you are an asshole.

By the way, I'm one of the guys that notified Tim that you'd dragged him into Rich's column. I've been in your troll tank from the git-go. Hell, I've had my eye on you for years, ever since when I was a mod here and Scott gave us the heads-up about what a loon you are.

I owe J-Bolt an apology. You make him look like Paul Levitz.

[Gail Simone]

Let me state one more time: I DO NOT, HAVE NOT, and WILL NOT work for Rick Olney. He was asked to be a co-admin of a group I started when we thought he was ligit, 5 years ago, we kicked him out for proving himself otherwise 3 years ago...and I am only here to make sure people KNOW THAT.

I got that...it was his lunkhead, ham-fisted, unwriterly idea of a joke.

This is why being around him is exhausting. Between the lack of wit and the stories about how wonderful he is, you just want to shoot yourself.

Gail

[Draconomicon]

This from Wikipedia is interesting

Antisocial personality disorder

Antisocial personality disorder and the closely related construct of psychopathy can be assessed and diagnosed through clinical interview, self-rating personality surveys, and ratings from coworkers and family. For diagnosing psychopathy in forensic male populations, the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) is considered definitive.

[edit] Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV-TR)

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders DSM-IV, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental and behavioral disorders, defines antisocial personality disorder as a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:

1. failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
2. deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
3. impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
4. irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated fights or assaults (both physically or mentally)
5. reckless disregard for safety of self or others
6. consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
7. lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another


The manual lists the following additional necessary criteria:

* The individual is at least 18 years of age.
* There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.
* The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode.

[edit] Mnemonic

A mnemonic that can be used to remember the criteria for antisocial personality disorder is CORRUPT[2][3]:

* C - cannot follow law
* O - obligations ignored
* R - remorselessness
* R - recklessness
* U - underhandedness
* P - planning deficit
* T - temper

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopath

[AIPman1]

I'd chew off a leg to have him forget who I am.

[Kozemp]

I'd chew off a leg to have him forget who I am.

Well, if Mr. Olney's measuring skills are to be believed, there's several padded folk here who would likely be happy to chew it off for you. Gail, especially - she told me once that Small Press guys are like veal.

Not me, though... human flesh is SO high in cholesterol. Man, did I learn that the hard way.

JLK

[orcafresh]

Help, I do not know what this statement is suppose to mean. My gut feeling though is that Mr. Olney has gone from fat jokes to now suggesting that Gail Simone used sex to get into the business. I ask this in all seriousness.

And again I'm wondering to myself, 'what comic book publisher would EVER suggest and say something like this and think that they will have a successful business venture?

DM Jim aka James Roberts

Funny how you put that relationship together. I would've never seen that. So was sex involved? I have no idea. My remark to "Gail Simone" about my time on my back was just that. How she earned her stripes is her business.

[Gail Simone]

I'd chew off a leg to have him forget who I am.

I know, but that is what has allowed him to continue.

I told him to take the remainder of the money he'd cheated me on and stuff it, after two years of his bullshit lies (I mean, he's not even GOOD at it...it's all 'check is in the mail' stuff, same as he's used on everyone here). Because it was such a delight not to have his lunatic whining in my inbox.

But if I'd spoken out, then maybe some more people wouldn't have gotten cheated, and that bothers me.

Gail

[orcafresh]

I'd chew off a leg to have him forget who I am.

Oh, come on! I fed you back in 2003, Ian! You'd have to chew off the other leg and an arm! :p

[MacQuarrie]

"Gail" I spent more than enough time on MY back in the Marines. You are out of context on "closest" as you were in your emails to Dennis. You're full of lies. People that know me know that.

Given your history of lying all the time, I'm beginning to doubt your claims regarding your military experience. I'm looking into it and will most likely file a FOIA request for your records with the Veteran's Administration.

According to the Stolen Valor website (which tracks liars who pretend to be veterans):

The first step in verifying Vietnam-era military service? Realize that the stereotypes about Vietnam veterans are not true. Individuals who become the elite of the military typically maintain that demeanor and pride throughout their lives. You should be on the alert if a slovenly, 300-pound, under-educated man claims he was a Green Beret who performed courageously in combat, was highly decorated, performed covert operations, and is now homeless. Could it happen? Yes. But the odds are greatly against it.

If you really are a Marine ("Once a Marine, always a Marine"), for God's sake act like it. "Semper Fidelis", remember? You are a shame to the Corps.

[Kozemp]

Funny how you put that relationship together. I would've never seen that. So was sex involved? I have no idea. My remark to "Gail Simone" about my time on my back was just that. How she earned her stripes is her business.

You're back! Yay!

Could you say you won't respond to my posts again? Because that means you will, and GOD I love the attention. Plus I love watching you prove what a complete jackhole you are, though admittedly that is probably about as easy as you telling someone you'll do something and then not doing it. Or calling a fake lawyer. I hear that's pretty easy too.

Yeah... when lying, scumbag deadbeats respond to my postings on the interwebs... man, that makes me HOT.

JLK

[Matt Doc Martin]

Funny how you put that relationship together. I would've never seen that. So was sex involved? I have no idea. My remark to "Gail Simone" about my time on my back was just that. How she earned her stripes is her business.

So what was your time on your back all about? What did YOU mean by that? Enlighten us, Owe-ney!

[orcafresh]

I know, but that is what has allowed him to continue.

I told him to take the remainder of the money he'd cheated me on and stuff it, after two years of his bullshit lies (I mean, he's not even GOOD at it...it's all 'check is in the mail' stuff, same as he's used on everyone here). Because it was such a delight not to have his lunatic whining in my inbox.

But if I'd spoken out, then maybe some more people wouldn't have gotten cheated, and that bothers me.

Gail

Well, Dennis was here yesterday and we had a discussion about your memory versus what his memory as ORCA's president, and a person that helped financially support that 2003 event cost. You're all wet. Meaning, your memory is very poor. Your tickets were paid for by us. We covered your meals , and you had all but $100 dollars paid back to you. You would've gotten that had you provided us with receipts.

Yes, big hearted "Gail" ...

[Gail Simone]

Funny how you put that relationship together. I would've never seen that. So was sex involved? I have no idea. My remark to "Gail Simone" about my time on my back was just that. How she earned her stripes is her business.

Everyone here knows what you meant, loser.

You've got a lot of problems. Being really lousy with insults is way down the list.

Gail

[bert]

What the hell is a 'scmuck?'



it's what Lebians use to urinate





as opposed to a walking, talking, asshole. . which apparently Mr. Olney is, based purely on all the shit that's been coming out of his mouth.

[wishlish]

2004 because of a heart ailment. 2006 because of three deaths in my immediate family from late July to October.
Your mom would be ashamed of your conduct, Rick. I'm surprised your wife isn't.

[orcafresh]

This may seem like an odd thought, but have you seen an optometrist about it?

My mother was an optometrist lo these many years ago, and her specialty was helping learning-disabled people be able to read and write (and now, I would imagine, type) better. She doesn't practice anymore, and I honestly can't remember how she did what she did (and, as she is a doctor and I a lowly theatre person, probably still wouldn't understand), but I know she trained other OD's in that area and had some more-than-moderate success.

Definitely something to look into, if you have not done so already.

JLK

Hey! Stop derailing mine and "Gail's" thread! :p

[Dreadstar]

I owe J-Bolt an apology. You make him look like Paul Levitz.

The difference between the two seems to be that J-Bolt does seem to have some actual mental issues. Aside from the egomania, I just think Rick is a sane prick.

[orcafresh]

Your mom would be ashamed of your conduct, Rick. I'm surprised your wife isn't.

Nice try, wishlist. :rolleyes:

[bert]

double post

[orcafresh]

The difference between the two seems to be that J-Bolt does seem to have some actual mental issues. Aside from the egomania, I just think Rick is a sane prick.

Wow! That is the nicest thing anyone has said about me in this entire thread! Thank you, Dreadstar! :D

[Matt Doc Martin]

Your mom would be ashamed of your conduct, Rick. I'm surprised your wife isn't.

I wonder what his family would say about fat jokes as well.

Well, Owe-ney? Have you picked on your family about weight issues?

[Scott Shaw!]

Oh, Scott... I want to be just like you when I grow up and out. :p

It's no secret that everyone knows I'm fat. And now it's no secret that Rick Olney is a sociopath, one who will NEVER grow up.

Aloha,

Scott!

[Larry Dixon]

Holy crap.

I just realized who his unseen attorney must be.

It must be Johnnie Cochran, back from the grave.

I mean, hey. OJ.

[Scott Shaw!]

And speaking of which, I think that this thread is about to collapse under its own 200-page weight!

Aloha,

Scott!

[Kozemp]

Hey! Stop derailing mine and "Gail's" thread! :p

That's three times now you've responded to my posts after saying you wouldn't.

I'm starting to wonder what would happen, Mr. Olney, if you actually told the truth about something. The sun quietly blinking out of existence? The moon spiraling into the Pacific? One of your creditors getting paid? All seem about as likely.

You, sir, are what my friends and I call "bad at life."

I welcome your continued non-responding.

EDIT: You still haven't spun up a new lie to cover the fact that earlier you lied about insulting Martin Oakley, and then lied about not remembering his last name. Please create a lie about this at your earliest convenience.

Then again, you're a lying fuck, so I'm not entirely sure why I'm surprised.

JLK
who has an excellent grasp of the English language, unlike some

[Typo Lad]

Holy crap.

I just realized who his unseen attorney must be.

It must be Johnnie Cochran, back from the grave.

I mean, hey. OJ.
"Zombie Cochran needs BRAINS!"