Rick Olney--Fibber or Mega-Giganta-Fibber?

[Gail Simone]

But...but...how will people support Tightlip there?

There is no Tightlip.

Honest to god, this sucks, because some people who (unlike Reeky Rick) actually HAVE talent worked on some of these books, while others, like Blake, were promised future publishing.

But realistically...what store would order them after Rick's behavior, assuming he can actually hire someone to finish them knowing his history of non-payment, threats, and lies? I mean, who would actually accept work knowing any of this?
And lastly, small publishers already have a hard road to run--Rick's horrible, abusive and downright repulsive rants and threats against some of the industry's most highly regarded creators (like Chuck and Val and Mark, just to start) are a huge turn-off. Nobody's ASKING for Rick Olney comics in the first place, and he's just made it a thousand times more obvious that he's an incredibly dishonest and bizarre individual.

I don't know, I can't see it happening, even if he could put the issues together after all this time, which I highly doubt. And frankly, most of the concepts looked abysmally unoriginal, even though there was some nice art there.

I feel very bad for the creators who got screwed. But I can't imagine Tightlip surviving even if he were suddenly to become honest and actually pay all the people he's owed. It's a shame.

Gail

[TomStillwell]

My intention is not to scare anyone with lawsuits. It is to un-ball the mess of Tales of The Spooky#1 and make a legal statement about unacceptable and unprofessional conduct.

Yes, because you've written the book on both counts.

[Matt Doc Martin]

"Lying deadbeat's logic?"


Yes. That describes it to a "T".


"Gail" -- I have been reading this thread.


SHOCKING! Really?


I'm not alone in tracking and charting what is being said publicly. The think line between opinion and libel remains to be brought under proper legal light, but it shall.

Uh-huh.

Obviously, it is painful to see so many people, assumingly good people, crossing legal lines. My intention is not to scare anyone with lawsuits.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

It is to un-ball the mess of Tales of The Spooky#1

Which YOU created, btw...

and make a legal statement about unacceptable and unprofessional conduct.

Kind of like reverse psychology. All you have done is show how it should NOT be done. Open your moth infested wallet and pay.

You making a bold statement like," WE HAVE MOUNTAINS OF EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU. You have NOTHING BUT YOUR DELUSIONS" shows that you are obviously power tripping. Fine. I'm not about to burst your bubble here. I'll do it in a legal civil court. Far as any other bold (and untruthful) assertions ... take your best shot.

Actually, all the evidence is here and kept fro your own postings. Who is your attorney? I will send him PDF files of it all.

Whatever that is we'll obtain a copy via the legal due process. This ride is now over.


Nuh-uh...you keep making the ride FUN!


Again, who is your attorney? An email address? Phone number? mailing address? Name?

[GCom]

Mr. Olney, what is your goal in these lawsuits you are implying?



With Tolerance For Curiosity...

GCom

[Mike Bullock]

Since, in his own little fascist, tread-on-freedom-of-speech way, he locked the thread, I guess I'm forced to respond here.

Rick, my family is full of attorneys, I grew up around them, immersed in their dealings. It's glaringly obvious from your comments that you have ZERO understanding of contract law. You are in breach. You have no shred of ground to stand on for not paying anyone. Any judge in the US is likely to throw the book at you for wasting his/her time with your antics.

You have my attorney's contact information, and have had it for months now. Feel free to get froggy and use it. Just remember, the prozac-free water is rather deep once you're off that lilly pad...

In the meantime, your payments to Runemaster Studios, Inc. are now several months past due and accruing interest.

Criminal investigations into your behavior are underway.

Civil actions against your behavior are underway.

In fact, the only thing not underway is your career as an ethical business man.

[Matt Doc Martin]

And I am impressed. This time, he waits a couple of days before "never coming back"

[DocAbsurd]

Again, and in closing, that you and Mike Bullock would come to these message boards to simply troll and make bold allegations outside a legal venue is ridiculous and I'd like to think that anyone reading this drama that "Gail Simone" has started actually knows that there are TWO sides to every story.

Yeah, there's 2 sides:

His side, and the wrong side.

I've been privy to so many conversations where he berated and twisted the facts about dozens and dozens of creators; so many creators I couldn't even begin to remember them all. Half our phone calls were bemoaning the fact that everyone is out to 'get' him.

And he's talking about trolling? He found one board he wasn't banned from and starts pimping projects that have no chance in hell of ever seeing print.

You've all seen how I am; when I do something wrong, or even feel likek I've done something wrong, I don't only admit it, I apologize and try to make amends. He touts his lies and blames his indiscretions on anyone who's on his personal 'blacklist'.

Bin Laden is already a 'has-been' as far as current politically-topical villains go. Why not just change the villain to everyone on this thread? At least then you'd be a bit more realistic in your own mind.




Doc 'Can I Be the Mad-Scientist?' Absurd

[Gail Simone]

"Lying deadbeat's logic?"



"Gail" -- I have been reading this thread. I'm not alone in tracking and charting what is being said publicly. The think line between opinion and libel remains to be brought under proper legal light, but it shall.

Obviously, it is painful to see so many people, assumingly good people, crossing legal lines. My intention is not to scare anyone with lawsuits. It is to un-ball the mess of Tales of The Spooky#1 and make a legal statement about unacceptable and unprofessional conduct. You making a bold statement like," WE HAVE MOUNTAINS OF EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU. You have NOTHING BUT YOUR DELUSIONS" shows that you are obviously power tripping. Fine. I'm not about to burst your bubble here. I'll do it in a legal civil court. Far as any other bold (and untruthful) assertions ... take your best shot.



Whatever that is we'll obtain a copy via the legal due process. This ride is now over.




Boo hoo, Rick.

I have stacks and stacks of evidence against you, mostly in your own words, all easily provable.

You are a liar, and you cheated people whose feet you don't deserve to kiss, and had the delusional audacity to blame THEM.

"Power tripping?" I'm not the one who, like a coward, closes off every thread he can so that no one can refute his lies. Nor do I owe dozens of people money they were promised. You cheat even your close friends, Rick. That's the kind of person you are.

The stuff I will bring to court paints you a hundred times worse than the stuff in this thread, Rick. Good luck trying to defend dozens and dozens of emails in your own words, lie after lie, to dozens of people, some of whom are among the most respected people in comics (which you sir, are neither respected NOR "in comics"). Not to mention the physical threats and so, so much more. Should be great to read this stuff aloud in court.


How sad you must feel standing there with an empty gun, as usual.

Your behavior is exposed at long last, by so many people it's hard to even keep track.

I'm afraid your ranting threats just don't impress, Rick. Sorry.

Oh, and PAY THE GODDAMNED PEOPLE YOU OWE, DEADBEAT.

:)

Gail

[Gail Simone]

Since, in his own little fascist, tread-on-freedom-of-speech way, he locked the thread, I guess I'm forced to respond here.

Rick, my family is full of attorneys, I grew up around them, immersed in their dealings. It's glaringly obvious from your comments that you have ZERO understanding of contract law. You are in breach. You have no shred of ground to stand on for not paying anyone. Any judge in the US is likely to throw the book at you for wasting his/her time with your antics.

You have my attorney's contact information, and have had it for months now. Feel free to get froggy and use it. Just remember, the prozac-free water is rather deep once you're off that lilly pad...

In the meantime, your payments to Runemaster Studios, Inc. are now several months past due and accruing interest.

Criminal investigations into your behavior are underway.

Civil actions against your behavior are underway.

In fact, the only thing not underway is your career as an ethical business man.



As if I didn't love Mike ALREADY.


And just so everyone knows it, Lions, Tigers and Bears is effing BRILLIANT.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

NO ONE IS SCARED OF YOUR LAWSUITS.



Well, I am kinda scared of his lawyer. I imagine he looks just like this:

http://images.quizilla.com/X/xWasteOfBloodx/1127004003_ndsEduardo.jpg

[Matt Doc Martin]

"Dick" is more talented than we give him credit for.

Here is a picture of him responding now:

http://sj.blacksteel.com/padded-cell/Posey07.jpg

[Gail Simone]

Yeah, there's 2 sides:

His side, and the wrong side.

I've been privy to so many conversations where he berated and twisted the facts about dozens and dozens of creators; so many creators I couldn't even begin to remember them all. Half our phone calls were bemoaning the fact that everyone is out to 'get' him.

And he's talking about trolling? He found one board he wasn't banned from and starts pimping projects that have no chance in hell of ever seeing print.

You've all seen how I am; when I do something wrong, or even feel likek I've done something wrong, I don't only admit it, I apologize and try to make amends. He touts his lies and blames his indiscretions on anyone who's on his personal 'blacklist'.

Bin Laden is already a 'has-been' as far as current politically-topical villains go. Why not just change the villain to everyone on this thread? At least then you'd be a bit more realistic in your own mind.




Doc 'Can I Be the Mad-Scientist?' Absurd



Yeah, boy, that 'edgy' Bin Laden stuff.

I think it's been shown plenty of times that Bin Laden isn't exactly a draw for comics sales, particularly with a no-name no-talent at the creative helm.

But the whole thing looks pretty bad (aside from nice art). And why is it that no artists seem to get credit for most of the illustrations Rick uses on the tle website? I'd like to know who those people are, just so they are properly credited.

Gail

[Sarah Beach]

Although he mentions that the threads from Dixonverse have been deleted (yes, they have, because it's a small cache board), all threads dealing with him were copied for deletion. The text of all posts in those threads, not just his, but what he was "responding" to, were copied, and I and my fellow Dixonverse moderators, have copies of the file.

I have not wanted to re-read the garbage, but I have it all. The only unfortunate thing is that subthreads I deleted before banning him, which contained his worst personal attacks on certain people, were NOT copied. But even without those, his conduct was bad enough on the remaining record to warrant the banning.

Anyone interested in securing a copy of that file from me, please contact me by PM. I'll be happy to forward it to you. Because it is PUBLIC RECORD. And don't forget my PDF file with the last (though unsent) response to him, as it includes my final evaluation of his Dixonverse behavior.

[TCJohnson]

Now I can see why he admires Stan Lee so much; I've never seen someone who can sling so much hype about projects that effectively dead in the water.

Then you have never seen J-Bolt.

Which is just sad, Rick Olney can't even be the best B.Ser on the web. Is he a failure at everything?

[TCJohnson]

And he's talking about trolling? He found one board he wasn't banned from and starts pimping projects that have no chance in hell of ever seeing print.


And yet he critisizes you for talking about your medical problems...which I have not seen you do that much.

that is what I really hate about this guy....I can't stand obvious double standards like this guy has.

[Mike Bullock]

Hmmm... let's do some fantasizing and look at possible character witness tactics, since Rick has no chance of winning with factual evidence.

Chuck Dixon = industry legend and stand up guy.

Val Staples = possesses so much integrity, he sold everything he owned (including a MoTU collection it took him decades to amass) and slept in a sleeping bag on the floor to pay people he owed money to due to some other company "Olney'ing" him.

Gail Simone = simply one of the nicest creators in the business.

Larry Dixon = a paragon of honesty

Countless other industry professionals who work hard and expect nothing more than agreed upon payment for their work.

Versus

Rick Olney = A man so reviled CBR exploded with nearly 200 pages of comments in less than a week listing his indiscretions, thievery, lack of ethics/morals, perversions, delusions, threats (legal, mental, spiritual and physical) and countless outbursts from Rick that seem better suited to the local 3rd grade bully.


http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/think.gif
Now, if you were a judge and you saw the creators' side present factual evidence of contracted work delivered, but payment not made, then the person found in breach only had this sort of evidence to display, how do you think it would turn out?

P.s. Rick PAY US WHAT YOU OWE US!!!

[Gail Simone]

Although he mentions that the threads from Dixonverse have been deleted (yes, they have, because it's a small cache board), all threads dealing with him were copied for deletion. The text of all posts in those threads, not just his, but what he was "responding" to, were copied, and I and my fellow Dixonverse moderators, have copies of the file.

I have not wanted to re-read the garbage, but I have it all. The only unfortunate thing is that subthreads I deleted before banning him, which contained his worst personal attacks on certain people, were NOT copied. But even without those, his conduct was bad enough on the remaining record to warrant the banning.

Anyone interested in securing a copy of that file from me, please contact me by PM. I'll be happy to forward it to you. Because it is PUBLIC RECORD. And don't forget my PDF file with the last (though unsent) response to him, as it includes my final evaluation of his Dixonverse behavior.



I love Sarah.

See, Rick?

This is what happens when you behave horribly. People take note.

Just more evidence of the flameout, threats, grotesque personal attacks, and lies.

Gail

[DocAbsurd]

Tricky, could do us all a favor and explain the underlying logic in your legal actions?

Without trying to sound 'defaming' here, all I've been able to gather is:

You get creators to sign NDAs that only cover trade secrets (no matter how much the language is changed, that's all they can legally cover).

You have said creators perform various duties for you, according to some extremely tight publishing deadlines.

You refuse to pay said creators, under the assumption that those NDAs will keep them from taking their stories public.

When they've had enough of requesting their owed-monies, you publicly slam them, slander them, call them names and do your best to frighten them into submission with a lawyer no-one has yet to hear from.

You claim that breaking those NDAs null-and-voids contracts, thereby freeing you from financial obligations.

Even if your legal knowledge only runs as deep as occasionally tuning into Judge Judy, you've got to know none of those actions will hold up in court. You asked creators for work. They completed work. You refused to pay them. Where's the confusing legalities in any of that?

Even worse, because the material in TosT #1 is tied up in red tape that you, no doubt, instigated, you've decided to move forward with plans for a #2 with the hopes of negating the 'problems' with the first issue. How are you gonna manage the hype for that? 'In case you're wondering why I'm starting with #2 . . .'

By George, I think I've got it. 'Negating'. You're under the impression that everyone's decision to speak out against you 'negates' your obligations. Every time someone comes forth and says, 'He owes me for work I did years ago,' that suddenly erases your debt to them.



Doc 'Bizarro' Absurd

[Gail Simone]

Tricky, could do us all a favor and explain the underlying logic in your legal actions?

Without trying to sound 'defaming' here, all I've been able to gather is:

You get creators to sign NDAs that only cover trade secrets (no matter how much the language is changed, that's all they can legally cover).

You have said creators perform various duties for you, according to some extremely tight publishing deadlines.

You refuse to pay said creators, under the assumption that those NDAs will keep them from taking their stories public.

When they've had enough of requesting their owed-monies, you publicly slam them, slander them, call them names and do your best to frighten them into submission with a lawyer no-one has yet to hear from.

You claim that breaking those NDAs null-and-voids contracts, thereby freeing you from financial obligations.

Even if your legal knowledge only runs as deep as occasionally tuning into Judge Judy, you've got to know none of those actions will hold up in court. You asked creators for work. They completed work. You refused to pay them. Where's the confusing legalities in any of that?

Even worse, because the material in TosT #1 is tied up in red tape that you, no doubt, instigated, you've decided to move forward with plans for a #2 with the hopes of negating the 'problems' with the first issue. How are you gonna manage the hype for that? 'In case you're wondering why I'm starting with #2 . . .'

By George, I think I've got it. 'Negating'. You're under the impression that everyone's decision to speak out against you 'negates' your obligations. Every time someone comes forth and says, 'He owes me for work I did years ago,' that suddenly erases your debt to them.



Doc 'Bizarro' Absurd



Well said, and I think it goes to the central delusion Rick has that he can control the perception people have of him (through keeping people who know the truth) quiet.

Well, he has some bad news coming in the next couple days on that account, I'm told.

Gail

[Jack Zodiac]

Whatever that is we'll obtain a copy via the legal due process. This ride is now over.

And I, for one, can't wait to see the asshole with a whale fetish crack his skull on the windshield when it comes to a screeching halt. Whoever likened all of this to watching a trainwreck in slow motion nailed it.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Well said, and I think it goes to the central delusion Rick has that he can control the perception people have of him (through keeping people who know the truth) quiet.

Well, he has some bad news coming in the next couple days on that account, I'm told.

Gail

Speaking of which, I wonder how Ronee's article is coming.

And I cannot wait to hear that news!

[Sarah Beach]

I love Sarah.

See, Rick?

This is what happens when you behave horribly. People take note.

Just more evidence of the flameout, threats, grotesque personal attacks, and lies.

Gail

Awww, thank you, Gail. I think you're the tops too.

But gosh, there's nothing like seeing a typo in a copied quote! That should have been "copied BEFORE deletion", just to be clear.

But I also find it really, really amusing that although we all know Rick Olney googles himself regularly, to see who's talking about him now, and often shows up at that place, when the rest of us do the same, to make sure we or our actions are not misrepresented, we're "trolls". He always enters claiming that he's there to bring "the facts", and to combat "defamation and misrepresentation". But if others bring the facts to his latest chosen arena, he deletes (as on his mySpace blog) or locks threads (the Jazma thread).

He's trying desperately to control things, but now that people are at last talking about the facts of what he's done to them.... it's catching up with him.

TRUTH WILL OUT

[amboy00]

Has he made his legal counsel known? I mean, should not there be a name or contact info for his attorney at this point?

This lawyer obviously exists... who is it?

I'm just curious. Has this been pointed out yet?

[Ogdred]

If you guys think you're going to pursue this case, it might be a good idea to stop posting about it, considering Olney must be reading every word.

I'm not a lawyer or anything, but just saying...

[Matt Doc Martin]

Has he made his legal counsel known? I mean, should not there be a name or contact info for his attorney at this point?

This lawyer obviously exists... who is it?

I'm just curious. Has this been pointed out yet?

He has not. The question keeps getting asked, but he has selective reading skills.

[Matt Doc Martin]

If you guys think you're going to pursue this case, it might be a good idea to stop posting about it, considering Olney must be reading every word.

I'm not a lawyer or anything, but just saying...

Is that sarcasm?

[TCJohnson]

Has he made his legal counsel known? I mean, should not there be a name or contact info for his attorney at this point?

This lawyer obviously exists... who is it?

I'm just curious. Has this been pointed out yet?

Stop harshing is buzz with reality, man! You are such a buzz harsher.

And no, nobody is sure this lawyer exists.

[Gail Simone]

Awww, thank you, Gail. I think you're the tops too.

But gosh, there's nothing like seeing a typo in a copied quote! That should have been "copied BEFORE deletion", just to be clear.

But I also find it really, really amusing that although we all know Rick Olney googles himself regularly, to see who's talking about him now, and often shows up at that place, when the rest of us do the same, to make sure we or our actions are not misrepresented, we're "trolls". He always enters claiming that he's there to bring "the facts", and to combat "defamation and misrepresentation". But if others bring the facts to his latest chosen arena, he deletes (as on his mySpace blog) or locks threads (the Jazma thread).

He's trying desperately to control things, but now that people are at last talking about the facts of what he's done to them.... it's catching up with him.

TRUTH WILL OUT


As I said, I've spent time with the guy, and his desperate need to be considered a big wheel in comics is...I mean, it's just alarming. He was telling these stories about how he'd met or corresponded with people I know well, friends of mine, as if it were the most impressive, prestigious thing in the world. People he'd MET briefly, you know?

I consider myself a tiny, fortunate bit player in comics. I'm lucky to be here at all and am very grateful for the friends I've made and the opportunities I've had. I certainly don't think of myself as some kind of major player. So it's weird that Rick felt such a burning need to keep us there hostage after the con (when we just wanted to go sleep because we had an early flight) for literally two hours while he told stories about people he'd barely met, as if that somehow made him hugely important by osmosis. It was, well, at the time I thought it was sad. Now I see it's just part of his need to project an image of himself as big and important when the truth is, all anyone really knows him for is being that weird blowhard guy who has frequent meltdowns on the internet. And now, it's even worse. Where are all these important friends now? Literally NO ONE is defending him--he's just gone way too far with all the lying and cheating.

Sad. There is still a part of me that pities him, but then I think of all those creators who had to scramble to salvage their Christmas because he lied about paying when promised and I just get mad again.

Gail

[Ogdred]

Is that sarcasm?

No, it's not sarcasm. People are listing their dream witnesses and strategies, which seems like it might not be a very good idea if this case is going to be pursued.

As entertaining and informative as this thread has been, it would be a shame if it ended up hurting the case against Olney in some way.

[Gail Simone]

Has he made his legal counsel known? I mean, should not there be a name or contact info for his attorney at this point?

This lawyer obviously exists... who is it?

I'm just curious. Has this been pointed out yet?

Ronee says he has a lawyer on retainer. Maybe he does.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

No, it's not sarcasm. People are listing their dream witnesses and strategies, which seems like it might not be a very good idea if this case is going to be pursued.

As entertaining and informative as this thread has been, it would be a shame if it ended up hurting the case against Olney in some way.

Yeah, I got lots more, and I haven't even contacted the other pros at the con who also had complaints. Really, it's more stuff than anyone could deal with. And i do have some ugly things that haven't yet come to light.

I'm not suing...I told him he could keep the remainder of the money owed because I was sick of being lied to. But I'll absolutely counter-sue if served.

Gail

[amboy00]

Ronee says he has a lawyer on retainer. Maybe he does.

Gail

Hope they clear the check first.

[Mike Bullock]

As if I didn't love Mike ALREADY.


And just so everyone knows it, Lions, Tigers and Bears is effing BRILLIANT.

Gail

Awww... shucks. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/hug.gif

[Gail Simone]

Awww... shucks. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/hug.gif

You know it's true. I can't remember the last time I ever said, "Shit! I wish I'd thought of that!" while reading a comic, but I think it every time I read an issue of L,T&B!

Gail

[Mike Bullock]

Ronee says he has a lawyer on retainer. Maybe he does.

Gail

Maybe his lawyer can help pay some of Paul Gutierrez's mounting medical bills, since the money he earned working on ToTS never materialized to help pay said bills...

[Gail Simone]

WHY I LOVE BILL WILLINGHAM

On comicspace I posted that i love his work, which I SO DO, and he said...

"It's mutual, Gail. I thoroughly enjoy everything you write. I hope you'll check out my new book coming from Tightlip Entertainment. I'm really excited about working with those guys. I've heard such good things about them. Okay, I was a bit wary at first, but as soon as I read that you were doing something with them all doubts were banished and I jumped onboard!"


hahahhahahaha!

Gail

[Mike Bullock]

You know it's true. I can't remember the last time I ever said, "Shit! I wish I'd thought of that!" while reading a comic, but I think it every time I read an issue of L,T&B!

Gail


And every time I read BoP I think "If God had made me half as talented as Gail, I'd be happy."

[DocAbsurd]

And yet he critisizes you for talking about your medical problems...which I have not seen you do that much.

that is what I really hate about this guy....I can't stand obvious double standards like this guy has.

Please forgive me, everyone, for a momentary lapse and thread derailment.

About my situation (in case you don't read my 360 blog):

I'm a single-father of 2 Things, 10 and 7.

I've got a dead-beat ex who hasn't paid child support since June last year; in fact, it's taken the government 6 months to finally track her down to bring her back to court. I've filed petition after petition against her and have to go again next Tuesday to enforce the garnishment order.

I took a second job to help catch up on bills; that meant working up to 17 hours a day 3 times a week from before Thanksgiving to now.

If it wasn't for the generosity of my Daphne, my sister, and a few people on the CBR boards, we wouldn't have had a Christmas this year.

I worked meself to exhaustion. I ended up running a fever of over 101 for two weeks without knowing; had a massive outbreak of stress-related eczema over my entire body; also developed a cyst on my leg. I missed 3 days of work despite being told to stay home for 2 weeks and recover. I was pumped up on anti-biotics and steroids, and turned down a prescription for Tylenol 3 for the pain (if that's any indication how I felt) because I simply couldn't afford to be incoherent.

We got official notification about out store closing on Christmas Eve. My second job is shutting down a full week early. I've got to wait till the end of the month before I find out if I'll be offered re-location to a store I have no means of transport to. And I've been told I cannot apply at the location across the street unless they do it for me.

In that time, I have not offered my services to anyone. I have not taken assignments I knew I couldn't finish. I have not borrowed money nor promised anything I knew I couldn't fulfill.

And the most I've done is offer my apologies for lack-of-contact by simply saying, 'Things are crazy-busy around here.'

Now, let's compare that to Tricky's canceled conventions, lack of payment, delayed books, and his reasonings why . . .




Doc 'My Fault' Absurd

[Matt Doc Martin]

WHY I LOVE BILL WILLINGHAM

On comicspace I posted that i love his work, which I SO DO, and he said...

"It's mutual, Gail. I thoroughly enjoy everything you write. I hope you'll check out my new book coming from Tightlip Entertainment. I'm really excited about working with those guys. I've heard such good things about them. Okay, I was a bit wary at first, but as soon as I read that you were doing something with them all doubts were banished and I jumped onboard!"


hahahhahahaha!

Gail

He'll be sued.

[Gail Simone]

Please forgive me, everyone, for a momentary lapse and thread derailment.

About my situation (in case you don't read my 360 blog):

I'm a single-father of 2 Things, 10 and 7.

I've got a dead-beat ex who hasn't paid child support since June last year; in fact, it's taken the government 6 months to finally track her down to bring her back to court. I've filed petition after petition against her and have to go again next Tuesday to enforce the garnishment order.

I took a second job to help catch up on bills; that meant working up to 17 hours a day 3 times a week from before Thanksgiving to now.

If it wasn't for the generosity of my Daphne, my sister, and a few people on the CBR boards, we wouldn't have had a Christmas this year.

I worked meself to exhaustion. I ended up running a fever of over 101 for two weeks without knowing; had a massive outbreak of stress-related eczema over my entire body; also developed a cyst on my leg. I missed 3 days of work despite being told to stay home for 2 weeks and recover. I was pumped up on anti-biotics and steroids, and turned down a prescription for Tylenol 3 for the pain (if that's any indication how I felt) because I simply couldn't afford to be incoherent.

We got official notification about out store closing on Christmas Eve. My second job is shutting down a full week early. I've got to wait till the end of the month before I find out if I'll be offered re-location to a store I have no means of transport to. And I've been told I cannot apply at the location across the street unless they do it for me.

In that time, I have not offered my services to anyone. I have not taken assignments I knew I couldn't finish. I have not borrowed money nor promised anything I knew I couldn't fulfill.

And the most I've done is offer my apologies for lack-of-contact by simply saying, 'Things are crazy-busy around here.'

Now, let's compare that to Tricky's canceled conventions, lack of payment, delayed books, and his reasonings why . . .




Doc 'My Fault' Absurd



For people who ask why I continue to push this thing, that's why right here.

A lot of good, good people got screwed by this 'man,' and his only response to the pain and discomfort he's caused is threats of litigation.

Enough with the Rick Olneys of the world. They need to be exposed for what they are.

I hope things improve for you, Doc. I didn't know you before but now I think you're a complete stand-up guy and I wish you nothing but good things in the VERY NEAR future.

Gail

[Perry Holley]

If Mr. Olney is at the Pitt Comicon this year, someone snag me and point him out to me. I'm curious.



With Tolerance For Wanting To See The Face...Just follow your nose...

[Gail Simone]

He'll be sued.

He's making up an NDA for himself as we speak.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

Just follow your nose...

That's what I plan on doing!

[Perry Holley]

One lie, one broken promise, or a single neglected responsibility may be a misunderstanding instead. Two may involve a serious mistake. But three lies says you're dealing with a liar, and deceit is the linchpin of conscienceless behavior. Cut your losses and get out as soon as you can."Mr. Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time is enemy action.'" - Goldfinger, Ian Fleming

[TomStillwell]

Tricky, could do us all a favor and explain the underlying logic in your legal actions?

Without trying to sound 'defaming' here, all I've been able to gather is:

You get creators to sign NDAs that only cover trade secrets (no matter how much the language is changed, that's all they can legally cover).

You have said creators perform various duties for you, according to some extremely tight publishing deadlines.

You refuse to pay said creators, under the assumption that those NDAs will keep them from taking their stories public.

When they've had enough of requesting their owed-monies, you publicly slam them, slander them, call them names and do your best to frighten them into submission with a lawyer no-one has yet to hear from.

You claim that breaking those NDAs null-and-voids contracts, thereby freeing you from financial obligations.

Even if your legal knowledge only runs as deep as occasionally tuning into Judge Judy, you've got to know none of those actions will hold up in court. You asked creators for work. They completed work. You refused to pay them. Where's the confusing legalities in any of that?

Even worse, because the material in TosT #1 is tied up in red tape that you, no doubt, instigated, you've decided to move forward with plans for a #2 with the hopes of negating the 'problems' with the first issue. How are you gonna manage the hype for that? 'In case you're wondering why I'm starting with #2 . . .'

By George, I think I've got it. 'Negating'. You're under the impression that everyone's decision to speak out against you 'negates' your obligations. Every time someone comes forth and says, 'He owes me for work I did years ago,' that suddenly erases your debt to them.



Doc 'Bizarro' Absurd

Let's suppose just for a wild minute that Rick's faux legal logic is actually correct. Let's suppose that these creators are in breach and therefore he doesn't have to pay them.

By that same logic Rick would no longer own anything they created for him and it would revert back to creators to do with as they wished.

See Rick? Even in whacked out made for TV legal world you don't get the cake and eat it too. You don't owe them? You don't own their work.

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[Matt Doc Martin]

Who Is Your Attorney???

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[Matt Doc Martin]

Mike,
I'm told that ONLY the people working on stories where one of those people breaking their NDA are actually affected, and those not affected will be paid soon. Unfortunately, I can't comment on it any further. My best hopes are for the betterment of Paul Gutierrez, obviously. If he isn't involved, he'll be paid shortly. Thank you for the update.

WHO IS YOUR ATTORNEY?

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[Matt Doc Martin]

So you've engaged in this personal attack to what ends? Listen, warm up to your lawyer and tell Mr. Waid to be prepared to break open his change purse because you'll most likely be counter-sueing. I'm not letting you off the hook, "Gail".

DICK: WHO IS YOUR ATTORNEY?!?

[TomStillwell]

In order to warm up her lawyer, she'll need to have her counsel speak directly with your attorney. PM her the contact info.

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[stealthwise]

This will surprise you, Sarah Beach, but I don't 'google' myself as often as you may think.


Once and he usually passes out from the strain.

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[Matt Doc Martin]

Mind your business, well meaning troll.

Who is your attorney, dick?

[Mike Bullock]

I assumed that you could read and comprehend what you signed on for.

I signed on with a contract that stated I would be paid 15 days after delivering the approved script. Said script was delivered last July. That was 158 days ago...

No where in the contract does it state payment can be withheld while you and Lucy go explore the Sky with Diamonds...

[Trevor Frick]

man rick you have really lost it.

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[TomStillwell]

Mind your business, well meaning troll.

Translation: My second cousin who flunked out of law school is currently in jail for passing himself off as an attorney and can't be reached at this time.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Give it a rest, child. Go troll elsewhere. Get ready for that misdemeanor charge of harrassment. You should hear from your local County Sherriff's office with the complaint soon. Don't worry though, just give the bail bondsman Mark Waid's name. :rolleyes:

Good luck proving harrassment.

from Wikipedia:

Harassment refers to a wide spectrum of offensive behavior. When the term is used in a legal sense it refers to behaviors that are found threatening or disturbing, and beyond those that are sanctioned by society. In societies which support free speech, only the more repetitive, persistent and untruthful types of speech qualify legally as harassment.

Do you feel threatened by me? Have I said anything threatening violence or harm towards you?

Have I said anything untruthful?

repetitive? Yes. If you come here, I expect you to answer questions, not cherry pick.

[Gail Simone]

So you've engaged in this personal attack to what ends? Listen, warm up to your lawyer and tell Mr. Waid to be prepared to break open his change purse because you'll most likely be counter-sueing. I'm not letting you off the hook, "Gail".

Who cares? I think you may actually be missing when I say, I HAVE PROOF OF EVERYTHING I SAID. You have delusions, flameouts and meltdowns, along with physical threats.

You're a liar and a deadbeat and that's easily proven.

You want to go to court and have it proven there, OVER AND OVER, that's your idiotic decision. It's your noose, deadbeat.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

Who cares? I think you may actually be missing when I say, I HAVE PROOF OF EVERYTHING I SAID. You have delusions, flameouts and meltdowns, along with physical threats.

You're a liar and a deadbeat and that's easily proven.

You want to go to court and have it proven there, OVER AND OVER, that's your idiotic decision. It's your noose, deadbeat.

Gail

Will you stop by and visit me in Sing-Sing?

[Matt Doc Martin]

I gotta grab some popcorn. Watching this moron melt down is damn entertaining.

[Wil Radcliffe]

I think if this ever goes to court, Rick has an excellent case. Any decent lawyer can turn the insanity defense into a winner.

Maybe this would all be best resolved if instead of offering to pay the creators' court costs, Mark Waid paid for Rick's stay at the Mohawk Community Hospital psych ward.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Has this been posted here?

http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/09/18/mini-con-cancelled/

[GCom]

Give it a rest, child. Go troll elsewhere. Get ready for that misdemeanor charge of harrassment. You should hear from your local County Sherriff's office with the complaint soon. Don't worry though, just give the bail bondsman Mark Waid's name. :rolleyes:

This is an important statement. Copied for posterity.



With Tolerance For He-Said / He-Said...

GCom

[Matt Doc Martin]

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/35/t/000431.html?

Anyone that knows me knows that I can be a ball of fire. Burn you with my opinion or cause you to fall under the warmth of my generosity. How it is played depends upon you. I'm not perfect. And I agree - My role here has caused the boards to suffer. So I'll withdraw. I've decided to fall silent here. In fact, I'll leave comicon.com in the hands of my friends. I'll take my opinions elsewhere. THAT should quell Buck Futters anxious heartbeat. You know, Buck - I'll bet that you're nothing like you sound. I'm sorry if I scared you with my threat of having had you online investigated. It NEVER happened. It was WORDS meant to push your buttons. I'd also like to tell you that the basis of my interest in offering to climb in the ring with you for charity ... was just that ... CHARITY. I have no doubt that we would've raised a chunk of change. And probably become friends during the process. You can rest easy now. I won't intentionally haunt your dreams.

So that is it...

It was real nice getting aquainted with a few of you. I wish you the best.

Rick Olney--

This was another good one.

I emphasized a good point.


Blowhard windbag loser.

[amboy00]

Has this been posted here?

http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/09/18/mini-con-cancelled/There site is down. But if its the one I think it is, my comments were deleted from it. I got a little mad at the general "kick em while their down" aspect.

[Cam63]

"Lying deadbeat's logic?"



"Gail" -- I have been reading this thread. I'm not alone in tracking and charting what is being said publicly. The think line between opinion and libel remains to be brought under proper legal light, but it shall.

Obviously, it is painful to see so many people, assumingly good people, crossing legal lines. My intention is not to scare anyone with lawsuits. It is to un-ball the mess of Tales of The Spooky#1 and make a legal statement about unacceptable and unprofessional conduct. You making a bold statement like," WE HAVE MOUNTAINS OF EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU. You have NOTHING BUT YOUR DELUSIONS" shows that you are obviously power tripping. Fine. I'm not about to burst your bubble here. I'll do it in a legal civil court. Far as any other bold (and untruthful) assertions ... take your best shot.



Whatever that is we'll obtain a copy via the legal due process. This ride is now over.

'Morning, fuck knuckle.

[Matt Doc Martin]

There site is down. But if its the one I think it is, my comments were deleted from it. I got a little mad at the general "kick em while their down" aspect.

I made a PDF of it.

[Cam63]

And I am impressed. This time, he waits a couple of days before "never coming back"

'Nice to see he has some restraint.

[amboy00]

I made a PDF of it.heh. Its back up. After she deleted my comment (I believe I called her the Ann Coulter of comics) totally to her credit in retrospect, I posted my rant about the matter here:
http://www.popsyndicate.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/265/

[Coppervale Studio]

As I said, I've spent time with the guy, and his desperate need to be considered a big wheel in comics is...I mean, it's just alarming. He was telling these stories about how he'd met or corresponded with people I know well, friends of mine, as if it were the most impressive, prestigious thing in the world. People he'd MET briefly, you know?

I consider myself a tiny, fortunate bit player in comics. I'm lucky to be here at all and am very grateful for the friends I've made and the opportunities I've had. I certainly don't think of myself as some kind of major player. So it's weird that Rick felt such a burning need to keep us there hostage after the con (when we just wanted to go sleep because we had an early flight) for literally two hours while he told stories about people he'd barely met, as if that somehow made him hugely important by osmosis. It was, well, at the time I thought it was sad. Now I see it's just part of his need to project an image of himself as big and important when the truth is, all anyone really knows him for is being that weird blowhard guy who has frequent meltdowns on the internet. And now, it's even worse. Where are all these important friends now? Literally NO ONE is defending him--he's just gone way too far with all the lying and cheating.

Sad. There is still a part of me that pities him, but then I think of all those creators who had to scramble to salvage their Christmas because he lied about paying when promised and I just get mad again.

Gail

See, Gail, what you wrote above is what draws together both seasoned pros and anxious newbies: you feel fortunate, lucky, and grateful for the opportunities you've been afforded, both personal and professional, while working in comics.

When a working professional says things like that, it makes other professionals respect you a great deal.

When a newbie says things like that, unscrupulous publishers see it as an opportunity to step in and say, "Well you SHOULD be." And then they leech off of that for as long as possible, until the drained creators feel used, threatened, and just weary of it all.

[Gail Simone]

heh. Its back up. After she deleted my comment (I believe I called her the Ann Coulter of comics) totally to her credit in retrospect, I posted my rant about the matter here:
http://www.popsyndicate.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/265/

Johanna's not the Ann Coulter of comics...she's a smart, talented writer. I disagree with her often but she's one of my favorite comics commentators.

Gail

[Matt Doc Martin]

I look forward to more of "Dick's" damning words.

I'll keep you all posted about whether I hear from the police, sheriff, FBI, SWAT, Salvation Army, Boy Scouts, or the Oompa Loompas.

Or whoever the sweet fuck his "attorney" is.

[Cam63]

Lionel Hutz, Attorney at Law.

[Gail Simone]

I look forward to more of "Dick's" damning words.

I'll keep you all posted about whether I hear from the police, sheriff, FBI, SWAT, Salvation Army, Boy Scouts, or the Oompa Loompas.

Or whoever the sweet fuck his "attorney" is.



Yes, I TOTALLY BELIEVE that the police are HOT ON THE CASE trying to protect a deadbeat from people calling him a deadbeat.

Gail

[Jeff Brady]

heh. Its back up. After she deleted my comment (I believe I called her the Ann Coulter of comics) totally to her credit in retrospect, I posted my rant about the matter here:
http://www.popsyndicate.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/265/

Hey, she quoted me when Wizard fired their EIC. She's aces in my book.

[Larry Dixon]

Ronee says he has a lawyer on retainer. Maybe he does.

Gail

This could be completely true, but it may mean that he knows an attorney whose braces just came off. The lawyer will only be on retainer another few months, then he'll have a dazzling smile while laughing this all off.

[Gail Simone]

Wow...

That's a pretty huge leap in logic unless that's actually your goal.

Unlike you, Rick, I'm in the industry. I have some idea what I'm talking about.

Unlike, say, you.

Look at the response here...some of the best known people in the industry have come forward to decry your incredible dishonesty and professionalism, including retailers. You think they're going to want to buy books from you (as if they'd ever actually come out?)

And, I'm sorry to correct you on this one more time, but I don't give a crap about your fake vanity publishing company in either way, EXCEPT for the fact that you cheated all those people.

Once you pay everyone, you can go back to telling everyone you meet stories about how important you are.

Gail

[bert]

This could be completely true, but it may mean that he knows an attorney whose braces just came off. The lawyer will only be on retainer another few months, then he'll have a dazzling smile while laughing this all off.

I was gonna make that joke a few pages back, but I didnt' want to derail the thread.


of course, now that it's derailed, I might as well note that amboy00 is teh cute!
(damn, I didn't realize how cute until I saw the popsyndicate board picture).

[bert]

and by the way. . I'd like to rescind my first post in this thread, where I wished Olney well.

I was just hoping that he would make some money, and pay off what was owed.

of course, watching him self-destruct, and take shots at people I admire, respect, and enjoy supporting w/ my comic's dollar. . .and the proof that has been shown in this thread of a pattern of this behavior?

all I can say now, is that I hope you end up in court, Mr. Olney, because it sounds like you will lose.

I will never support anything with your name attached. . and that is thanks to your behavior here.

bert

[kingdom2000]

Anyone can make hay out of any legal matter if they have the money and the will. I could take Onley to court for harassment or other made up charges. I can't prove it but if I have the money to waste trying, I could do it. Thats the tactic Onley seems to be pulling.

The problem though is the will and the money has to exist. Both. Onley clearly has the will but I seriously doubt he has the money. Lawyers are not in the habit of taking cases where they may not get paid in some fashion.

Of course Onley could prove this conjecture, opinion if you will, by simply providing the name and contact information of his lawyer. That then would allow people to get their lawyer to call his lawyer to discuss grivences. It would also allow the more enterprising members to prove the existance of said lawyer and being apart of the bar for the state he practices in.

So far though very little of what Onley posts shows any real knowledge of the law. All of it seems to be based on either television shows or some info he picked up here and there via the media, including the various definitions posted in this thread. Sadly based on his recent posts, he clearly hasn't done further research in the various defamation laws. I wonder if he is even aware of the first admendment.

So once again Onley, prove your lawyer exists. Its not even a difficult demand. If you are really talking to a real lawyer, one that has passed the bar and able to practice in a state, the one piece of information you do share is your lawyer's name. Key phrase is "passed the bar", until then they are just a student or a paralegal.

[DocAbsurd]

http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/09/18/mini-con-cancelled/

I’m also sorry that you chose to air this in public, as it is the last place to seek any balanced and honest exchange.

Then tell me why you constantly patrol any and all boards willing to accept your registration looking to air your own grievances publicly? Why do you lock and delete 'suspected members' (and yes, I've been witness to that happening time and time again) from the MMC forums because you have this paranoia of people waiting in the wings to 'spy' on you? Why do you feel the necessity to chime in whenever your name is mentioned?

How can you sit there and say you don't Google your name when 1) you always manage to squeak in within the first ½ dozen replies of any discussion about you, no matter how slight or insignificant the thread or forums, and 2) you've told me time and time again you do so regularly?

Rick, as a former friend who you went out of your way to lie to simply to cover up your actions, can I just say you've completely lost any grasp on reality? People don't set out with the intention of making you their enemy; you do that all on your own.

So long as someone agrees with your outlook, your political views, your plans for conquering the world of comic books, they're okay in your book. They can speak freely in the confines of your rules. But when they speak out against you or your beliefs, they suddenly become one of the 'trolls'. They're out to ruin you. And you effectively lock them out of any chance of discussion or meaningful resolution.

Then the threats begin.

And if you think that claiming 'legal action' isn't a threat, think again. Wanna take count how many creators do actually stress over being taken to court for simply saying something against you, for what you claim as 'slander' or 'libel' or 'harassment'? When you start flapping lawsuits as part of your defense, whether or not they exist becomes irrelevant when it frightens people or affects their health. That is a threat in a very real sense.

In the 2 years we've been associates, I've watched you alienate professionals in the comic book industry, well-established creators in the small press community, up-and-coming talent who looked to you as their first break, and old friends who supported you when the masses said otherwise. I've personally worked in a virtual vacuum for the past 2 years, suspicious of everyone I might otherwise have considered colleagues at the very least, friends if situations were different.

You've dodged, negated, verbally abused, slung mud, ruined reputations besides your own. Even when Gail showed a glimmer of compassion with this statement:

I feel very bad for the creators who got screwed. But I can't imagine Tightlip surviving even if he were suddenly to become honest and actually pay all the people he's owed. It's a shame.

Gail

You go and turn it into a self-perceived threat of her taking down your publishing venture with this:

Wow...

That's a pretty huge leap in logic unless that's actually your goal.

No-one's out to get you, Rick, no matter what you may think. There is no grand comic-book conspiracy assembled to bring you down and see you fail. In case you hadn't noticed, there's an overwhelming desire to see the truly talented little guy get a chance at the momentary spotlight; that's why small press and independent comics will always exist. New ideas, fresh ideas will always be sought out.

You made promises wrapped in legal nonsense to make collecting from you even harder. I can't help but think that you did this on purpose; why else would believe that an NDA would secure your business practices? You have, in essence, become your own worst enemy.

Whether you can see it or not, you've done nothing less than convince any passer-by of everything that's been said here. I doubt there's a potential reader of your comics that would be swayed to your self-heralded line of comics because of your behavior here.

Rick, as a former friend, I'm asking you to stop posturing. Stop with the legal ramblings. Just stop typing. Grab your checkbook, check your account balance, save the money you're 'spending' on legal advice and lawsuits and counter-suits and counter-counter-suits that have yet to filed, and simply pay what you contracted for.

You may never salvage your reputation, but at least you'll have a clean conscience.




Doc 'Upon Deaf Ears' Absurd

[amboy00]

Unlike you, Rick, I'm in the industry. I have some idea what I'm talking about.

Unlike, say, you.

Look at the response here...some of the best known people in the industry have come forward to decry your incredible dishonesty and professionalism, including retailers. You think they're going to want to buy books from you (as if they'd ever actually come out?)

And, I'm sorry to correct you on this one more time, but I don't give a crap about your fake vanity publishing company in either way, EXCEPT for the fact that you cheated all those people.

Once you pay everyone, you can go back to telling everyone you meet stories about how important you are.

Gail
I think this is an aspect that isn't fully realized.

Take any rumors or facts or hearsay and put them all aside. Rick's behavior in light of any of this has been beyond reproach.

Gail and every other professional in the comics industry has seen Rick's behavior and want nothing to do with him or any future business.

Any career he has or hopes to have is now over. By his behavior alone.

[Coppervale Studio]

http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/09/18/mini-con-cancelled/



Then tell me why you constantly patrol any and all boards willing to accept your registration looking to air your own grievances publicly? Why do you lock and delete 'suspected members' (and yes, I've been witness to that happening time and time again) from the MMC forums because you have this paranoia of people waiting in the wings to 'spy' on you? Why do you feel the necessity to chime in whenever your name is mentioned?

How can you sit there and say you don't Google your name when 1) you always manage to squeak in within the first ½ dozen replies of any discussion about you, no matter how slight or insignificant the thread or forums, and 2) you've told me time and time again you do so regularly?

Rick, as a former friend who you went out of your way to lie to simply to cover up your actions, can I just say you've completely lost any grasp on reality? People don't set out with the intention of making you their enemy; you do that all on your own.

So long as someone agrees with your outlook, your political views, your plans for conquering the world of comic books, they're okay in your book. They can speak freely in the confines of your rules. But when they speak out against you or your beliefs, they suddenly become one of the 'trolls'. They're out to ruin you. And you effectively lock them out of any chance of discussion or meaningful resolution.

Then the threats begin.

And if you think that claiming 'legal action' isn't a threat, think again. Wanna take count how many creators do actually stress over being taken to court for simply saying something against you, for what you claim as 'slander' or 'libel' or 'harassment'? When you start flapping lawsuits as part of your defense, whether or not they exist becomes irrelevant when it frightens people or affects their health. That is a threat in a very real sense.

In the 2 years we've been associates, I've watched you alienate professionals in the comic book industry, well-established creators in the small press community, up-and-coming talent who looked to you as their first break, and old friends who supported you when the masses said otherwise. I've personally worked in a virtual vacuum for the past 2 years, suspicious of everyone I might otherwise have considered colleagues at the very least, friends if situations were different.

You've dodged, negated, verbally abused, slung mud, ruined reputations besides your own. Even when Gail showed a glimmer of compassion with this statement:



You go and turn it into a self-perceived threat of her taking down your publishing venture with this:



No-one's out to get you, Rick, no matter what you may think. There is no grand comic-book conspiracy assembled to bring you down and see you fail. In case you hadn't noticed, there's an overwhelming desire to see the truly talented little guy get a chance at the momentary spotlight; that's why small press and independent comics will always exist. New ideas, fresh ideas will always be sought out.

You made promises wrapped in legal nonsense to make collecting from you even harder. I can't help but think that you did this on purpose; why else would believe that an NDA would secure your business practices? You have, in essence, become your own worst enemy.

Whether you can see it or not, you've done nothing less than convince any passer-by of everything that's been said here. I doubt there's a potential reader of your comics that would be swayed to your self-heralded line of comics because of your behavior here.

Rick, as a former friend, I'm asking you to stop posturing. Stop with the legal ramblings. Just stop typing. Grab your checkbook, check your account balance, save the money you're 'spending' on legal advice and lawsuits and counter-suits and counter-counter-suits that have yet to filed, and simply pay what you contracted for.

You may never salvage your reputation, but at least you'll have a clean conscience.




Doc 'Upon Deaf Ears' Absurd

Doggone it, that entire post is just so well-reasoned, clear, concise, filled with practical counsel, and even expessions on concern and compassion for your former friend that I half expected the gods of the internet to just squish the thread as I read it.


...


...

Okay, then.

I have had way more experience with attorneys than I ever wanted, both hiring them to sue, and to work with when I've been sued. At least twice I've been sued on terms that has no basis in reality (including one idiot who sued me on a trademark dispute, and then basically admitted they were looking to be bought off). Frivolous or not, baseless or not, attorneys cost money. My inexpensive one is $150 an hour. So if all the legal actions (being initiated by Rick) ceased right now, how many creators could that pay? (Assuming there is money to pay - which I am, because according to this entire thread, there's an attorney being paid).

Say it takes four hours just for the attorney to read this thread. At my attorney's rates, that's $600. How far would that go to paying, say, Mike, and thereby establishing SOME goodwill, instead of NOT paying it, and just adding a voice to the people who haven't been paid?

Part of why someone has an attorney on retainer is to let them deal with the potential conflicts that can come up between disputed parties. Then the attorney can caution them not to go nuts in public, or whatever. At the very least, that's the proper channel for further arguments. What's the point of having an attorney if all you do is point to the curtain three hundred times and say, "For the three hundred and first time, if you don't cut it out, I swear I'm going to pull back the curtain and unleash my attorney!"

[Coppervale Studio]

Doublepost!

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[Mark Waid]

Olney:

Could you please reroute all this time and energy you're spending threatening people into time and energy spent paying the twenty-four creators whom you promised, in writing, to pay no later than October 15, 2006? Or do you deny that you are nearing 90 days of being in arrears?

The bottom line, the line no one with even the slightest sense of morals or ethics could possibly argue, is that you promised, in writing, repeatedly, to pay people for work. They delivered it, you accepted it. Then you didn't make good your end of that bargain and you have not paid any of them a dime.

This is indefensible behavior. It is wrong. A five-year-old child could tell you that much.

A real man pays his debts with no excuses. Period.

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[Trevor Frick]

too bad you werent the fool ( instead of a deadbeat) and be parted with the money you actually own people.

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[Mark Waid]

Also soon parted from his money: an honest man who pays his debts.

By your own admission, there are some creators involved here who were never asked to sign an NDA and to whom it doesn't apply. What is your excuse for not paying them?

[Karl O'Neill]

Sorry everybody, im new here on CBR,
but who the heck is Rick Olney????

theres nothing on wikipedia???

all the stuff being said here is crazy,

newsarama kicks people out for less.

ah well, i'll enjoy reading the comments.

Regards

[Matt Doc Martin]

"own people?"

Type slower, Trevor. ;)

Wow. "Dick" points out others typos. "The most "ironic" man in comics.

Way to step up and face the music!


So who is your attorney?

[Coppervale Studio]

...with regard to artists owed money and not tied in with the NDA issue, especially in regard to the above statement:

The other 6 active artists presently working on TightLip Entertainment projects don't see it your way.

Being broke and unable to pay is a different situation than not paying people who are owed, while engaging new services (that, presumably, are being paid for.)

[Karl O'Neill]

i ask again
Sorry everybody, im new here on CBR,
but who the heck is Rick Olney????

theres nothing on wikipedia???

all the stuff being said here is crazy,

newsarama kicks people out for less.

ah well, i'll enjoy reading the comments.

Regards

[Matt Doc Martin]

I assure you all that this drama will have consequences, but I'm not worried. Only a fool and his money are soon parted. :rolleyes:

Look...we get it. You have no job, no money, and no grip on reality.

Could you promise to leave here forever again, so we can get a day or two break?

[OMAR]

The avatar says it all, Tim Tobolski.


Well, your avatar is unreadable.

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[Matt Doc Martin]

i ask again
Sorry everybody, im new here on CBR,
but who the heck is Rick Olney????

theres nothing on wikipedia???

all the stuff being said here is crazy,

newsarama kicks people out for less.

ah well, i'll enjoy reading the comments.

Regards


There are 156 pages that describe in great detail who he is. Or, go to the links to his MySpace to hear his spin on it.

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[Dedagda]

Ack! He's back!

I skip a day of thread and I miss out. Was I on page 112 or 120?

[Matt Doc Martin]

I just hope you've got a pot to piss in, smack talker.

And that means?

[OMAR]

I just hope you've got a pot to piss in, smack talker.

How do you get money to buy food with?

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[Matt Doc Martin]

Ack! He's back!

I skip a day of thread and I miss out. Was I on page 112 or 120?

Same stuff from him...no worries. Although now he is interested in my urination habits. Odd, that....

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[Karl O'Neill]

everybody chill out,

have some cake, i want cake

[GCom]

Jim,
I don't know where youre coming from, but I'm not broke. I'm simply now spending more money on attorney fees versus paying those creators that my company will be filing against.


Then THAT is a bad business decision. If it's cheaper to pay the creators their agreed upon sums as opposed to fighting to pay them in court... then it's not about the money to you.



With Tolerance For This Versus That...

GCom

[OMAR]

Jim,
I don't know where youre coming from, but I'm not broke. I'm simply now spending more money on attorney fees versus paying those creators that my company will be filing against.

So yes, I have 6 other artists actively working on projects that many here are simply attempting to demean and devalue. If that isn't legally actionable then what is?

Demeaning and devaluing someone's upcoming comic book project isn't "legally actionable" (if it were I'd be on death row). But then you don't care, really, it's just that you've learned that when you throw a legal threat into the mix the responses get a little more heated and come a little faster, and that's what you're getting off on.

[THEDOC]

No, but trolls are trolls. That is very obvious in this thread.


Well "Rick" you booted me twice from MMC once cause you didn't like the quote on my signature which I did tell you where I got it from and you still banned me.Then again recently you did it again and I don't know why though probably due to the fact I am friends with Tim, which I cherish and after the way you have treated him after all his support for you, I support him 1000%



So you say. I obviously don't drink your koolaid logic.


Well I'll have some ..stirred not shakened.

[THEDOC]

I dunno. We'll see what comes after your misdemeanor charge. :D

Give it a rest "Rick".

[Matt Doc Martin]

I dunno. We'll see what comes after your misdemeanor charge. :D

Look at my signature. You have a history of bullshit threats. It is the mark of a little man.

If you mention the name of your attorney, or give the name of ANY police officer you have spoken to, I will GLADLY get in touch with them. Otherwise, drop the meaningless threats and crawl back into your van.

[TCJohnson]

What Gail Simone said:

Unlike you, Rick, I'm in the industry. I have some idea what I'm talking about.

Unlike, say, you.

Look at the response here...some of the best known people in the industry have come forward to decry your incredible dishonesty and professionalism, including retailers. You think they're going to want to buy books from you (as if they'd ever actually come out?)

And, I'm sorry to correct you on this one more time, but I don't give a crap about your fake vanity publishing company in either way, EXCEPT for the fact that you cheated all those people.

Once you pay everyone, you can go back to telling everyone you meet stories about how important you are.

Gail


What Rick Olney heard:

Blah blah, Rick, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

blah, blah, blah.

Look at the response here...some of the best known people in the industry have come forward to blah your incredible [blah]honesty and professionalism, including retailers. Blah blah they're going to want to buy books from you (as blah they'd blah blah come out?)

And, I'm sorry blah blah blah blah blah one more time, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah publishing company blah blah blah, BLAH blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah how important you are.

"Gail"

[Karl O'Neill]

[QUOTE=THEDOC;4203361]Well "Rick" you booted me twice from MMC once

Well twice is not too bad,

check out newsarama,

The administrtor kicks people out daily for lesser things.

[Mike Bullock]

Jim,
I'm simply now spending more money on attorney fees versus paying those creators that my company will be filing against.



Any 1st year paralegal knows this sort of behavior constitues "wasting the courts time" and will quickly place the time-waster high on the Judge's "least favorite people" list.

Following the 'one plus one equals two' rule, anyone can quickly see that you'll still have to pay us what you owe us, AND pay for attorney fees, court costs, filing fees and various and sundry other debts incurred due to frivolous litigation. At least you'll be doing your part for the judicial economy. I'm sure, from an attorney's POV, such activities are just what PT Barnum had in mind...

[Matt Doc Martin]

Any 1st year paralegal knows this sort of behavior constitues "wasting the courts time" and will quickly place the time-waster high on the Judge's "least favorite people" list.

Following the 'one plus one equals two' rule, anyone can quickly see that you'll still have to pay us what you owe us, AND pay for attorney fees, court costs, filing fees and various and sundry other debts incurred due to frivolous litigation. At least you'll be doing your part for the judicial economy. I'm sure, from an attorney's POV, such activities are just what PT Barnum had in mind...

Your logic and reasoning has no place in Olney-world.

[Coppervale Studio]

Jim,
I don't know where youre coming from, but I'm not broke. I'm simply now spending more money on attorney fees versus paying those creators that my company will be filing against.

So yes, I have 6 other artists actively working on projects that many here are simply attempting to demean and devalue. If that isn't legally actionable then what is?

Pardon my assumption that you were broke. It was inferred from, well, this whole thread, but also from comments you'd made (I'm paraphrasing, here) about not paying certain things due until your attorney gave the go-ahead, and even then, not actually paying, but giving a date when the payment could be expected.

That implies there isn't money available.

Saying things that could demean and devalue, intentionally or otherwise, isn't really actionable, and pursuing those folks legally may cost WAY more than it might seem at the onset. Damage has to be demonstrated - and as far as I can tell, there aren't any books out to BE damaged.

But, since you brought up Ronee - if signing the contract and NDA (after the fact) is what's holding up her being paid the $800 you acknowledge is owed, then it becomes really unclear. What can be covered by the NDA and contract that she isn't already able to say, now, openly, since she's not restricted by the NDA and contract she hasn't signed?

Wouldn't it be better to just take some of the legal money you're spending and just pay her off, eliminating one more critic and one more person involved in the legal morass?

[TCJohnson]

"own people?"

Type slower, Trevor. ;)

i say this without exageration...you are the biggest hypcrit I have ever seen.

[Matt Doc Martin]

i say this without exageration...you are the biggest hypcrit I have ever seen.

He did have consecutive double posts.

[DocAbsurd]

What is wrong with you?

Seriously, why is everything that is not praise or full agreement instead condemnation?

For feck's sake, I was speaking as a former-friend, not one of the 'mob'.

Dammitalltohell. You just had to fob me off, didn't you? Had to lump me in with the 'plebes' in your mind? Does that justify what you did? Can you now wash your hands of the money you owe me? Am I now your 'blacklist'? Good. I'm in with some seriously respected company.

You tout that avatar like it's something special. I dunno, most people want to be accepted, admired, not have a stake driven through their heart. That avatar does speak volumes; you truly see yourself as the 'injured party' in all this. We're all against you for unreasonable demands.

The matter with Mr Dixon was compounded by your actions, Rick. You couldn't keep your trap shut on the boards. You couldn't stop insulting everyone. You dragged me in, and you knew what you were doing. Mr Johnston even agreed of your knowledge of what he was planning on submitting in the article.

'Kool-aid logic'? What the feck is that supposed to mean? I watched your meltdowns happen, listened to you bitch and moan about it. I was there. You called me each and every single time. You even tried to get me over to the Dixonverse boards. I flat-out refused. But you had no problem trying to drag me into it. That, my former-friend, is 'kool-aid logic'.

And what's with the regular use of my full name? Trying to make sure everyone knows who I am now? Or is that some sort of 'insult' in your tiny little mind?

Here, lemme try a pre-emptive strike:

Folks, I'm Timothy J Tobolski. I'm a struggling cartoonist with a penchant for sci-fi comedy. I also write toy reviews for deadbeats and will support tons and tons of other's broken promises in the name of friendship. I hold my temper far more often than I should, and will even appeal to shattered friendships because I believe in the basic goodness of humanity. Even though I've been slapped in the face by those I've trusted, I still hope that some shred of decency will thrust itself through the bullshit.

There. It's out.

Believe it or not, I thought this out by myself. Yes, I consulted my partner in life when I was sitting on the fence over bringing up the fact -- not supposition, Tricky, but fact -- of your non-payment to me. And instead of apologizing, instead of paying, instead of admitting you'd done wrong, you heaped the blame on me. I didn't bring it up. I didn't say anything on your boards, so obviously it was all right. It was my fault for not giving you my permission after the deed was already done. What'd you expect, more of my unwavering loyalty? Again, that is 'kool-aid logic'.

Do you realize that your reply just dropped yourself deeper into the hole you've been digging for yourself? Everyone read how I appealed to your 'good side'; I didn't insult or call you names or degrade you in any form.

I shoulda known better.

You are an ass to the highest degree. Friendship without an all-inclusive NDA is an altercation waiting to happen.




Doc 'I've Had All I Can Stands' Absurd

[THEDOC]

Well twice is not too bad,

check out newsarama,

The administartor kicks people out daily for lesser things.
Yeah but I was hoping for a third time. Seriously after the first boot he wanted me to start posting again on MMC, since really only Dennis was posting and "Rick" needed more activity. So I posted a few things then he starts deleting whole topics till there was nothing to post on except what Dennis was doing as I like Dennis and his observations are always interesting.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Yeah but I was hoping for a third time. Seriously after the first boot he wanted me to start posting again on MMC, since really only Dennis was posting and "Rick" needed more activity. So I posted a few things then he starts deleting whole topics till there was nothing to post on except what Dennis was doing as I like Dennis and his observations are always interesting.

I'd like to hear Dennis' thoughts on this matter.

[TCJohnson]

The think line between opinion and libel remains to be brought under proper legal light, but it shall.



Can I have a think line?

Type slower, "Dick"

[THEDOC]

I'd like to hear Dennis' thoughts on this matter.
I have a feeling Dennis might not want to say anything possibly out of loyalty. I cannot speculate on that.

[wishlish]

But realistically...what store would order them after Rick's behavior, assuming he can actually hire someone to finish them knowing his history of non-payment, threats, and lies? I mean, who would actually accept work knowing any of this?


The bigger question is that could he even get a listing in the Diamond catalog? Diamond's getting mighty picky with who they will allow solicits from; I can't see them giving him a spot in Previews.

Granted, if they did, I'd consider ordering a copy. Wouldn't a book published by Rick Olney be the most coveted infamous collectible ever? It'd be like owning Enron swag.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

How do you sleep at night?

JP

[wishlish]

I consider myself a tiny, fortunate bit player in comics. I'm lucky to be here at all and am very grateful for the friends I've made and the opportunities I've had. I certainly don't think of myself as some kind of major player.

Bull. You're one of the best writers I've read and one of the few women who successfully made a place for herself in an industry historically unfriendly to women. And you did it all strictly on talent. That's a player in my book.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

How do you sleep at night man? Every time I hear you speak I just shake my head. I've done some self publishing. I've hired people and paid them for work done for me. I've signed contracts. Let me tell you something; no matter where you are, if you don't pay them by a certain date or time agreed upon by all parties involved, there is no obligation, contract or not. NDA or not. Anybody that's been in any form of publishing will tell you the same thing. It's called FULFILLING a contract.

Things happen to the best of us sometimes. I've had some tough financial times. Even so, I still eventually paid everyone I owed money too. Dude, there's no excuse for stiffing someone. If you can have a lawyer on retainer you can pay these people. Pay what you owe.

JP

[Matt Doc Martin]

How do you sleep at night man?

JP

I'm guessing upside down hanging from the rafters.


Or in a very soft room.

[Joshua Pantalleresco]

I'm guessing upside down hanging from the rafters.


Or in a very soft room.

something is rushing into his brain...unbelievable.

JP

[Ryan Higgins]

I've heard tales of this thread, but hadn't made it over to actually read it until today. My god, I've missed out on some of the funniest posts ever. This is truly a thread to save for future generations to read. It's great seeing all the support from industry professionals.

[bert]

this son of a bitch has the nerve to call people stalkers and accuse them of harrassment.

and THEN the fucker posts Doc's personal info online.

I hope you end up in a bloody mess.

that's not a threat (as I don't know you, and have no plans to ever meet you), it's just a wish to keep me warm at night.

[Mark Waid]

So you're saying that I'm not an honest man? Have you and I had some interaction that I'm not aware of, because that remark seems to imply that you are making a statement against my character and good name here.

Clumsy. Very clumsy. Who falls for bait like that? Let the record show, barrister, that I am not "making a statement against [your] character and good name," because at this point, I'm not sure that's possible.

As to your answer: No excuse other than I'm under legal direction on the matter of TOTS #1 creators.

Got it. So your legal directors have told you not to pay those non-NDA creators to whom, by your own admission, you owe money.

No lawyer who could as much as spell "bar exam" would give you that advice, and no man of conscience would take it without making amends to the aggrieved parties caught in the crossfire. If I hire Joe Contractor to build a cabinet and then hire you, a separate and unrelated party, to paint that cabinet green, I don't care what legal imbroglio I might later enter into with the cabinet builder; I am still legally, morally and ethically obligated to pay you for the paint job.

Putting aside all the shades of gray you keep trying to paint this with, is there any question--at ALL--that there are creators who have aggrieved you in no way and are yet still owed money?

Although contrary to what you say in stating, "there are some creators involved here who were never asked to sign an NDA and to whom it doesn't apply"...those case as such with Ronee boil down to her seemingly not caring enough about being owed the $800.00 dollars we show for her to sign her NDA and contract to be paid and terminated in one fell swoop. I'm simply not sending her a check otherwise.

I'm not speaking to specific situations. I don't know what the specifics are in Ronee's case. What I do know for an indisputable fact is that you are at least 90 days behind in paying your creators, and while by your own admission some payments are being held up over NDA issues, other payments are being held up for separate reasons that have not been disclosed. Whatever those separate reasons may be, they are morally and ethically indefensible by every single yardstick the human race has as yet produced.

If you work for a company, there are work-for-hire understandings that get formalized.

I've been working-for-hire for twenty-one years now, but thanks for the edumacation.

Who emailed you about this party? It wasn't me. Hope you have deep pockets full of change.

What party? I'm not being sarcastic, you're just being unclear. "Party" as in "screwed creator"? "Party" as in "dustup"? "Party" as in "something else for you to spend money on other than your debts"?

And my pockets may not be deep as some, but in part that's because I pay my debts.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I've heard tales of this thread, but hadn't made it over to actually read it until today. My god, I've missed out on some of the funniest posts ever. This is truly a thread to save for future generations to read. It's great seeing all the support from industry professionals.

YOU ARE DEMEANING HIM!!!! YOU WILL HEAR FROM HIS ATTORNEY! someday.....

[Daneault]

YOU ARE DEMEANING HIM!!!! YOU WILL HEAR FROM HIS ATTORNEY! someday.....
this made me spit sprite out of my nose. LMAO!

[TCJohnson]

Got it. So your legal directors have told you not to pay those non-NDA creators to whom, by your own admission, you owe money.

And according to him, he is also awaiting permission from his lawyer to pay the artists who did sign the NDA and have not yet broken it.

[Matt Doc Martin]

this made me spit sprite out of my nose. LMAO!

The sad thing is I may not be kidding.....

[Ryan Higgins]

YOU ARE DEMEANING HIM!!!! YOU WILL HEAR FROM HIS ATTORNEY! someday.....

Sweet, I've never been sued before! Should be fun...

[Mike Bullock]

Bull. You're one of the best writers I've read and one of the few women who successfully made a place for herself in an industry historically unfriendly to women. And you did it all strictly on talent. That's a player in my book.


I'm just quoting this because it deserves to be repeated. :)

[TCJohnson]

Although contrary to what you say in stating, "there are some creators involved here who were never asked to sign an NDA and to whom it doesn't apply"...those case as such with Ronee boil down to her seemingly not caring enough about being owed the $800.00 dollars we show for her to sign her NDA and contract to be paid and terminated in one fell swoop. I'm simply not sending her a check otherwise.


Oh, wait, now that is interesting. When we were talking about this on myspace, you were telling me that you agree that you owe her $300. Now you are saying you owe her $800? Thanks. Making a PDF of this now.

[Daneault]

The sad thing is I may not be kidding.....
that's what makes it funny. :D

[Trevor Frick]

i say this without exageration...you are the biggest hypcrit I have ever seen.

no doubt. pay the people you owe

is that better jackass, i mean, Rick,

am I ever happy I stopped visiting the MMC boards long ago.

hopefully nino gets away before he is screwed over by Rick as well.

[Trevor Frick]

I was glad Gail started this thread cause Rick needs to pay the creators, but had no idea Rick was as much as a jerk, dick ass, deadbeat, whatever you want to call him. He is probably one of the worst people I have ever seen in the comic industry ever.

[wishlish]

Warning #1: I am NOT a lawyer.

Warning #2: I am treating serious pain in my hip with morphine and oxycodone.

Having said that...

Apparently, there are numerous signed contracts between various artists and TLE. It seems that every artist who's signed a contract with TLE has been unpaid (was anyone EVER paid?).

Could all of these contracts be assigned to a separate legal entity that would then undertake legal action against Olney in a unified fashion? Say a separate corporation called Rick Olney Owes Me Money And That's Enough to Sue, Incorporated (ROOMATES, Inc for short) was created. That corporation would have as assets the unpaid contracts. That one corporation could then sue Olney and TLE. The possible advantage would be a unified offense and lower costs for each artist participating in the legal action. This way, Olney would be forced to go to court to defend his actions. From what I've seen, he's willing to defend himself only on Internet boards, which may be fun for all, but doesn't do anything to get the artists owed any cash.

Just a thought. I could be 100% wrong on this.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Warning #1: I am NOT a lawyer.

Warning #2: I am treating serious pain in my hip with morphine and oxycodone.

Having said that...

Apparently, there are numerous signed contracts between various artists and TLE. It seems that every artist who's signed a contract with TLE has been unpaid (was anyone EVER paid?).

Could all of these contracts be assigned to a separate legal entity that would then undertake legal action against Olney in a unified fashion? Say a separate corporation called Rick Olney Owes Me Money And That's Enough to Sue, Incorporated (ROOMATES, Inc for short) was created. That corporation would have as assets the unpaid contracts. That one corporation could then sue Olney and TLE. The possible advantage would be a unified offense and lower costs for each artist participating in the legal action. This way, Olney would be forced to go to court to defend his actions. From what I've seen, he's willing to defend himself only on Internet boards, which may be fun for all, but doesn't do anything to get the artists owed any cash.

Just a thought. I could be 100% wrong on this.


Heh.

You are on narcotics and you still make more sense than a supposedly "lucid" Olney.

Neat trick!

[orcafresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/orcafresh/TLE/RickOlneyMHMiC.jpg

[Sarah Beach]

This will surprise you, Sarah Beach, but I don't 'google' myself as often as you may think.

But apparently often enough to bring you round like a magic summoning.


The fact that so many unconnected to the legal sides, and there are several, to this matter is a testimony to the present state of mind online in communities like this one. That you want to stomp all over the Internet spreading each of your lies, libel, and mistruths (again) says more about you each as individuals than it could me.

What "lies, libel, and mistruths"? I'm assuming you're once again speaking in general terms. But since you had previously accused me personally, in this thread, of presenting something "falsely", and then skipped over my request for a specific identification of what I had presented falsely, I do have to wonder if you are indeed directing this at me. So, do tell: what lies, libel and mistruths? SPECIFY!


I can no longer talk about the various people involved and have no plans of playing tit-for-tat with each of you.

I'm assuming that's because you were told not to because of "pending legal actions." And since you are responding to me, and commenting to me, that I am not party to such action? I mean, that would be the logical deduction. Whatever.


Yes, truth will win out. But understand that only a crazed idiot could read this thread and walk away thinking that I'm in a control position.

Other than the purse-strings for the money intended to pay for WORK YOU ACCEPTED.


No, "Gail" has been allowed to say and do her worst. The fact that it may or may not affect my company financially remains to be seen and determined. The fact that CBR (Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.) has allowed this thread to go on as long is further testimony.

There you go again, implying a threat of legal action against the board for letting it go on. (And good for you, in doing the research on the owners! Wow.) You know, I warned you about this over on Dixonverse, and you apparently did not pay any attention to it there. I'll repeat it again. Most message board providers have as part of their terms of service statements wherein ALL USERS (that would include YOU by posting here) indemnification agreements regarding the content of individual posts. YOU CAN'T SUE THE BOARD PROVIDER, NOR THE OPERATOR OF SAID BOARD. Because you agreed to the terms BY POSTING.


Mark Waid stepping up and offering to cover everyone's legal bills was surprising, but certainly not a threat. It simply added more money to the pot. Win or lose.

I'm still trying to imagine what possible cause you think you have to go after Mark for his offer. And may I remind you of what I said on Dixonverse, I have worked in the arena of law in the past, so I do have some grasp of the options.



I'm staying within the confines of what I've been told, far as this forum and specific message thread. Your Doxonverse [sic, Olney: yeah, probably a typo, but after all this time, you'd think he could get that one right.SB]threads are all saved and time/date stamped. That was done right after and as the matter started breaking there. As each person's dossier is completed actions will be undertaken.

You keep mentioning that the threads were copied, like that's suppose to scare me into... what? Being ashamed or scared of anything I said? Give me a break! I would think that you would be the one who would be concerned about that record. And I have a copy myself anyway. So there. Big deal.

You're building dossiers on people???? You have a twisted perception of the world, where the actions and statements of perfectly reasonable and honorable people need to be complied as if they could be used as weapons against them. There is nothing "out there" in the public record that I would not repeat, nor acknowledge. I have not lied, I have expressed my opinion based on behavior (yours) observed, and I have NOT been intimidated by a self-puffed-up personality who mangles the language every time he tries to be impressive. For your information, little man, I have entre to circles in the comic book business (I don't snear at the production of the work by calling it a "hobby") that you can only dream about. You don't even rate as "small potatoes".

HEY, TROLL QUEEN! CAN I BE ONE OF YOUR LADIES-IN-WAITING????

[Matt Doc Martin]

Your attorney....any hints as to what his/her name might be?

Does the name contain a"T"?

[G-Spot]

I've skimmed a few pages from 151 to present, but I saw where Rick was talking of his lawyer. I recall him posting to Comicon during his threats and the meltdown that got him banned, that his lawyers name was "Stephen Harris"...who actually posted to Comicon about Rick's "lawsuits"...and was discovered to be a scok-puppet of his. So if anyone gets any emails from this "person"...it's probably not to be believed.

Just sayin'...

And I remember joining the SPA mess-board a few years back, after ending a feud with Rick, only to be subsequently removed because Rick said I was stalking him, even tho' I had not posted to his section, posted about him, or even mentioned him, his organization, or anything else between us. I even had a discussion off-board with one of the moderators, directing him to the Figma boards where Rick had (at the time) gone off kilter. The mod was cool and wanted to stay out of it between us, and I understood that, but it was good to see that they found out the truth about him eventually.

I wish I had the many emails and postings from him. But Figma went under unexpectadly and I never backed up anything, and the emails I got from him were just not worth the megabytes to save.

Live and learn.

[wishlish]

Your attorney....any hints as to what his/her name might be?

Does the name contain a"T"?


My drug-addled brain just imagined a round of Wheel of Fortune with the name of Olney's attorney behind the tiles.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I've skimmed a few pages from 151 to present, but I saw where Rick was talking of his lawyer. I recall him posting to Comicon during his threats and the meltdown that got him banned, that his lawyers name was "Stephen Harris"...who actually posted to Comicon about Rick's "lawsuits"...and was discovered to be a scok-puppet of his. So if anyone gets any emails from this "person"...it's probably not to be believed.
.


I'd accept that lie, if only to have some name...

[Matt Doc Martin]

My drug-addled brain just imagined a round of Wheel of Fortune with the name of Olney's attorney behind the tiles.

You would have better luck finding it there than from "Tricky Dick"

he could silence a LOT of people with just providing a name.

Hell, I would give "Dick" the number to both the sheriff's office AND the local police department if he provides his lawyer's name.

I am calling your bluff, "Dick".

You give me a name, I will give you numbers.

[TCJohnson]

Once that takes place, I assume they'll either tell the rest of you or primarily be glad that the mess (where their concerned in being held up) will be over.

Ah, but that would break the NDA and then you could sue them. ;)

It is claer to me


Claer? Is that a celtic word?

Type slower, "Rick".

But with Mark Waid fronting any and all comers regarding civil suits my way take him up on it if you're impatient and lacking understanding.

First of all, that sentence doesn't even make sense.

Type slower, "Rick."

Secondly, to clear something up, Waid is not offering to pay for all comers regarding civil suits, only the ones you actually cheated. Don't make yourself to be some kind of vicitm.

How many more ways can I say this so you'll understand it?

Try in english and try typing slower.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Remains to be seen, Mike.



I have no problem paying what is owed to those individuals that have not broken their NDA's. I'm only awaiting word of those determinations.



So, you need to know if they broke their NDA's? Or do you not have their finished work? Just what "determination" to their status remains?

[Mike Bullock]

I have no problem paying what is owed...

If that were true, I wouldn't be here now demanding payment from you.

[TomStillwell]

The other 6 active artists presently working on TightLip Entertainment projects don't see it your way.

Who exactly are these mythical people? You keep speaking on their behalf. Why don't they come forward in your defense about how you've been a great publisher who has paid them for their work?

It would seem that since everyone here has a supposed agenda to defame you that these truly happy creators in your employ would eagerly defend your virtue.

It's odd to me Rick, that for someone who claims to have nothing to hide, you've never directly answered one question with actual fact.

You've been asked the name of your attorney. It would cost you nothing to disclose this bit of information, it would even help get whatever legal actions you keep barking about rolling, yet you haven't even privately supplied anyone a name.

[orcafresh]

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[Corrina]

Those individuals that have maintained their professionalism and not allowed themselves to be sucked into this mess will be paid first.

When.

In two weeks? Two months? Two years?

And I'd also like to know the name of your attorney.

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[SUPERECWFAN1]

No lawyer who could as much as spell "bar exam" would give you that advice, and no man of conscience would take it without making amends to the aggrieved parties caught in the crossfire. If I hire Joe Contractor to build a cabinet and then hire you, a separate and unrelated party, to paint that cabinet green, I don't care what legal imbroglio I might later enter into with the cabinet builder; I am still legally, morally and ethically obligated to pay you for the paint job.

Don't mean to run in and hurt your point , Mr.Waid.

Well most Contractor laws are that you have 3 days to back out of said contract. Its happened once or twice to me. But most states have the 3 day waiting period and your supposed to have it on your contracts. :)

[Matt Doc Martin]

You think THIS is going to get you paid quicker? Silly man...
Attorney's name?

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[Matt Doc Martin]

Tom, you seem like a somewhat rational person, as opposed to Mickey Mouse Martin. :p

Nobody that is working for TightLip Entertainment would step into this forum thread. It would be nothing but murder. They'd get barraged with posts here, spam, hack attempts, and then the fury of the personal correspondence chastising them for taking assignments for TLE in the first place. But worry not, as they'll be made public as TLE releases the books that they're working on!



True enough. But then again, I'm under no obligation to spill my guts (anymore than I already have) here. Sorry.

Hack attempts? Spam?

Paranoia...check.

And isn't Mickey Mouse a registered trademark? Do we need to involve Walt Disney in your sad attempts at insults, "Dick"?

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[Matt Doc Martin]

Again, I'll just interject here -- again -- that everyone that worked on TOTS #1 had a legal NDA and contract in place. Now it is a matter of getting to the bottom of which came first, the chicken or the egg.

That makes NO sense.


No use crying over spilt milk, though. Just throw salt over your shoulder.

[Coppervale Studio]

It seems to me that if the 'Determination' process to figure out who CAN be paid takes more than a day, especially when the publisher insists he is willing and able to pay, then there's something seriously wrong with the contracts to begin with.

I just did a work for hire job a few months ago for IDW (for DOOMED), and the determinations (from a very simple and straightforward contract) that needed to be made were 1) Did he do the work? and 2) Was it any good? And as both of those answers were 'yes', they cut me a check inside of ten days, and the book was on the stands a month later.

That's how a publisher, who has a lot of stuff in the works and on the stands, deals with creators and contracts. If there's going to be a plethora of legal issues over contracts for books that aren't out from a company that hasn't published anything yet, then perhaps reconsidering the business plan is in order. And if there ARE people who could be paid, why not expedite that?

The best possible defense Rick could have right now is to have anyone step up and say 'I've been paid.'

[orcafresh]

Hack attempts? Spam?

Paranoia...check.

And isn't Mickey Mouse a registered trademark? Do we need to involve Walt Disney in your sad attempts at insults, "Dick"?

It is pretty clear to me that you have a "dick" fixation, Mickey!

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Ya know I've been on CBR close to 4 years now. I've seen a lotta wild crazy bullshit. I've been banned for some wild crazy bullshit once in that time.

But the wildest thing is how could you defame a comic series ? I mean Omar nailed it , if posting that a book sucks and the writer shouldn't even be on said series is defaming a comic series then were all screwed. Because I'm sure Judd Winick will have a hell of a lawsuit against me for dissing his Green Arrow run , calling it pure ***** and just outright knocking it every chance I get.

I'm even dissing the future marriage arc with Green Arrow and Black Canary. God help me.

If the creators got paid , I'd more than likely pull Tales of the Spooky. Its truthful , I love a lot of what Chuck Dixon has done on the Bat-books and all. Just like I told J-Bolt I'd buy his comic and have my LCS pull it for me If he ever got it done.

But if the stories are crap , the writing is bad ect ect , I will vent it and tell it online. And if you feel that hurts you then your in the wrong business of enertainment. Not every move you'll make in the industry of comics will be accepted. See DC & Marvel as examples. A lot of us like and dislike things . Many here have told me I'm wrong to diss Civil War , but last I heard its not a crime to post you don't like something . Or saying a book looks bad judging from the cover.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Ya know I've been on CBR close to 4 years now. I've seen a lotta wild crazy bullshit. I've been banned for some wild crazy bullshit once in that time.

But the wildest thing is how could you defame a comic series ? I mean Omar nailed it , if posting that a book sucks and the writer shouldn't even be on said series is defaming a comic series then were all screwed. Because I'm sure Judd Winick will have a hell of a lawsuit against me for dissing his Green Arrow run , calling it pure ***** and just outright knocking it every chance I get.

I'm even dissing the future marriage arc with Green Arrow and Black Canary. God help me.

If the creators got paid , I'd more than likely pull Tales of the Spooky. Its truthful , I love a lot of what Chuck Dixon has done on the Bat-books and all. Just like I told J-Bolt I'd buy his comic and have my LCS pull it for me If he ever got it done.

But if the stories are crap , the writing is bad ect ect , I will vent it and tell it online. And if you feel that hurts you then your in the wrong business of enertainment. Not every move you'll make in the industry of comics will be accepted. See DC & Marvel as examples. A lot of us like and dislike things . Many here have told me I'm wrong to diss Civil War , but last I heard its not a crime to post you don't like something . Or saying a book looks bad judging from the cover.


You see, here in America we have something called "freedom of speech". Any "patriotic" person would know and remember that.

"Dick" sure is a funny guy....or at least funny in the head.

[Mark Waid]

I have no problem paying what is owed to those individuals that have not broken their NDA's. I'm only awaiting word of those determinations.

I don't think you mean to say what you think you mean to say. Are you now hinging someone's payment on being able to prove that they HAVEN'T broken their NDA? How the hell does THAT work? What does your lawyer say about that when he finishes laughing?

Yes, you can prove someone DID break this insanely specious NDA--but how can anyone, short of having been in a medical coma since the moment they signed, prove he or she DIDN'T break it? If their payment depends on proving to your satisfaction that they have never, even in private, even to a spouse, even to a friggin' priest, even while talking in their sleep, even by accident, never ever broken their NDA--that's flatly impossible. You can't prove a negative. You can, however, choose to hold payment unless the impossible is proven. That's either brilliant, or a grave misapprehension of how the English language works. Guess where my vote lies.

I'm aware that contracts were broken. But everyone was legally contracted of those individuals that worked on TOTS #1. Those individuals that have maintained their professionalism and not allowed themselves to be sucked into this mess will be paid first.

There is absolutely no ethically or morally defensible reason why they haven't been already. Zero. None.

[orcafresh]

It seems to me that if the 'Determination' process to figure out who CAN be paid takes more than a day, especially when the publisher insists he is willing and able to pay, then there's something seriously wrong with the contracts to begin with.

Ummm... I can tell you that when Mr. Dixon was confronted with the fact that he had entered into an NDA and contract that he suddenly balked and made the choice of dancing around the issue. Then he said he didn't have either. Then he said we'd have our respective attornies look it over. Then his troll contingent began their nonsense and the moderator went stark raving blind. :p

I just did a work for hire job a few months ago for IDW (for DOOMED), and the determinations (from a very simple and straightforward contract) that needed to be made were 1) Did he do the work? and 2) Was it any good? And as both of those answers were 'yes', they cut me a check inside of ten days, and the book was on the stands a month later.

Your point is?

That's how a publisher, who has a lot of stuff in the works and on the stands, deals with creators and contracts. If there's going to be a plethora of legal issues over contracts for books that aren't out from a company that hasn't published anything yet, then perhaps reconsidering the business plan is in order. And if there ARE people who could be paid, why not expedite that?

The business plan is sound. It is the ethics of a few 'professionals ' that are lacking.

The best possible defense Rick could have right now is to have anyone step up and say 'I've been paid.'

I wouldn't ask anyone that has been paid to make that decision. It still is a private matter and none of anyone's business except those that were affected. You're only hearing from the foolish one's here that think they have no hope in getting paid. Little do they know that they're placing themselves in jeopardy. Again, I can't stop anyone from taking Mark Waid up on his offer to pay their legal expenses. I maen, when my attorney read that and then subsequently looked into Mr. Waid ... he smiled a great big happy meal smile.
I guess supportive money means legal recourse. That's why I asked Mr. Waid if he had spoken to his attorney. But that's his business.

[Mark Waid]

Don't mean to run in and hurt your point , Mr.Waid.

Well most Contractor laws are that you have 3 days to back out of said contract. Its happened once or twice to me. But most states have the 3 day waiting period and your supposed to have it on your contracts. :)


You didn't hurt the point. One has nothing to do with the other. Maybe you can back out of your contract with the cabinet painter, but you can't use as your reason "because I'm now in a legal battle with the totally unconnected guy who built the cabinet." Maybe I should have said, "I can't refuse to pay you for shoveling snow off my sidewalk based on the fact that I'm suing the guy who laid the cement."

[singoalla]

Again, I'll just interject here -- again -- that everyone that worked on TOTS #1 had a legal NDA and contract in place. Now it is a matter of getting to the bottom of which came first, the chicken or the egg.

Again, because something is obviously not getting through: When you failed to pay, the contract became voided. Useless. Ineffectual. Invalidated. No Longer Legally Binding.

-- You were due to be paid just as soon as I was given the legal go-ahead by my attorney.

I recommend you get a new attorney. What is he? An ex-hockey referee? Is that why you're waiting for the "go-ahead"? Is he standing with his arms in the shape of a T or something?
A very, very convenient excuse. "Oh dear, I'd help you, really, but my lawyer says I can't!" Bah humbug! YOU AREN'T FORBIDDEN FROM PAYING ANYONE!!! You just don't want to.

[orcafresh]

That makes NO sense.


No use crying over spilt milk, though. Just throw salt over your shoulder.
It makes no sense to you because it is none of your business, spank. :rolleyes:

[Chris N]

Again, I'll just interject here -- again -- that everyone that worked on TOTS #1 had a legal NDA and contract in place. Now it is a matter of getting to the bottom of which came first, the chicken or the egg.

By "chicken", you mean your not paying people. By "egg" you mean people complaining about not being paid. Which came first is what you think the question is?

[Mark Waid]

I maen, when my attorney read that and then subsequently looked into Mr. Waid ... he smiled a great big happy meal smile.

Wow, that doesn't sound like a threat AT ALL. No, sir.

[Matt Doc Martin]

It makes no sense to you because it is none of your business, spank. :rolleyes:

Or rather because it was a nonsensical comparison, Captain 4th grader.

And as for your mythical unnamed attorney having a "happy meal smile", is he a chunky little monkey like yourself? Happy Meals are full of fat.

[orcafresh]

Ya know I've been on CBR close to 4 years now. I've seen a lotta wild crazy bullshit. I've been banned for some wild crazy bullshit once in that time.

But the wildest thing is how could you defame a comic series ? I mean Omar nailed it , if posting that a book sucks and the writer shouldn't even be on said series is defaming a comic series then were all screwed. Because I'm sure Judd Winick will have a hell of a lawsuit against me for dissing his Green Arrow run , calling it pure ***** and just outright knocking it every chance I get.

I'm even dissing the future marriage arc with Green Arrow and Black Canary. God help me.

If the creators got paid , I'd more than likely pull Tales of the Spooky. Its truthful , I love a lot of what Chuck Dixon has done on the Bat-books and all. Just like I told J-Bolt I'd buy his comic and have my LCS pull it for me If he ever got it done.

But if the stories are crap , the writing is bad ect ect , I will vent it and tell it online. And if you feel that hurts you then your in the wrong business of enertainment. Not every move you'll make in the industry of comics will be accepted. See DC & Marvel as examples. A lot of us like and dislike things . Many here have told me I'm wrong to diss Civil War , but last I heard its not a crime to post you don't like something . Or saying a book looks bad judging from the cover.

This is true. That's why I know you'll buy the books. They do rock, btw.

[singoalla]

Wow, that doesn't sound like a threat AT ALL. No, sir.

Must have been the threat of indigestion, eating all those Happy Meals.

[Val]

Rick, my family is full of attorneys, I grew up around them, immersed in their dealings. It's glaringly obvious from your comments that you have ZERO understanding of contract law. You are in breach. You have no shred of ground to stand on for not paying anyone. Any judge in the US is likely to throw the book at you for wasting his/her time with your antics.


I'm with Mike on this one.

I spent part of my day this past Friday in legal council about this matter.
I hate having to spend my time and money in an attorney's office dealing with non payment from a publisher who should have already paid. But given the scope of this matter, it has to be done.

I have no idea why Mr. Olney feels he has a legal leg to stand on here, or why he feels he can continue to delay payment citing the NDA as legal grounds to do so.

If another publisher who owed me money and was making similar claims, I would only assume they are doing their own legal research, they have misconstrued the words of their attorney, or they simply haven't told their attorney the full story in council.

Ronee says he has a lawyer on retainer. Maybe he does.


Logically speaking, not many people can afford an attorney on retainer (which is essentially an advance to lawyers for their services).
Given how that money would go towards legal fees (councilling, research, phone calls, paperwork, etc, etc),
and given the hourly cost of most lawyers,
and given how much Mr. Olney has said he's been using his lawyer,
and given how no creators of late reported being paid on time prior to all of this,
well... you do the math.

I'm still waiting to learn who is representing Mr. Olney.
I hope he'll reveal this information soon rather than keeping it a mystery, as he has nothing to gain by not revealing his attorney's name.
It would make the process faster and easier if my attorney could speak with his.

Following the 'one plus one equals two' rule, anyone can quickly see that you'll still have to pay us what you owe us, AND pay for attorney fees, court costs, filing fees and various and sundry other debts incurred due to frivolous litigation. At least you'll be doing your part for the judicial economy. I'm sure, from an attorney's POV, such activities are just what PT Barnum had in mind...

That's true.
I don't understand why anyone would think an NDA protects them from non payment.

[orcafresh]

Wow, that doesn't sound like a threat AT ALL. No, sir.

Hey, you're the one that involved himself. Frankly, I'd hope that anyone not willing to hear the answer and dates on their check would camp out on your doorstep.

[orcafresh]

I'm with Mike on this one.

I spent part of my day this past Friday in legal council about this matter.
I hate having to spend my time and money in an attorney's office dealing with non payment from a publisher who should have already paid. But given the scope of this matter, it has to be done.

I have no idea why Mr. Olney feels he has a legal leg to stand on here, or why he feels he can continue to delay payment citing the NDA as legal grounds to do so.

If another publisher who owed me money and was making similar claims, I would only assume they are doing their own legal research, they have misconstrued the words of their attorney, or they simply haven't told their attorney the full story in council.



Logically speaking, not many people can afford an attorney on retainer (which is essentially an advance to lawyers for their services).
Given how that money would go towards legal fees (councilling, research, phone calls, paperwork, etc, etc),
and given the hourly cost of most lawyers,
and given how much Mr. Olney has said he's been using his lawyer,
and given how no creators of late reported being paid on time prior to all of this,
well... you do the math.

I'm still waiting to learn who is representing Mr. Olney.
I hope he'll reveal this information soon rather than keeping it a mystery, as he has nothing to gain by not revealing his attorney's name.
It would make the process faster and easier if my attorney could speak with his.



That's true.
I don't understand why anyone would think an NDA protects them from non payment.

Well... I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it all comes out then, right?

You'll hear from those involved soon enough. I'm taking action against you, remember? Wait until we get set and file before you file a countersuit.

[Matt Doc Martin]

I'm still waiting to learn who is representing Mr. Olney.
I hope he'll reveal this information soon rather than keeping it a mystery, as he has nothing to gain by not revealing his attorney's name.
It would make the process faster and easier if my attorney could speak with his.



Alas...you may wait forever. Or people will have to file against him in an effort to force the revelation. He could gain some credibility, or continue making legal threats like the threats listed in my sig.

Years pass, some things never change.

[TomStillwell]

Tom, you seem like a somewhat rational person, as opposed to Mickey Mouse Martin. :p

Nobody that is working for TightLip Entertainment would step into this forum thread. It would be nothing but murder. They'd get barraged with posts here, spam, hack attempts, and then the fury of the personal correspondence chastising them for taking assignments for TLE in the first place. But worry not, as they'll be made public as TLE releases the books that they're working on!



True enough. But then again, I'm under no obligation to spill my guts (anymore than I already have) here. Sorry.

Rick, so far the only person working for TightLip in this thread is you. Have you, the object of our discussion who brought this all on yourself, been spammed or hacked? That's a pretty heavy accusation to make.

If this thread is so murderous why are you still here hosing us with your deplorable behavior and jawing on about laws you clearly don't understand?

We have many former employees of TightLip stepping forward, all with the same tale of woe. How do you explain that fact? How come no one who previously or currently works for you have talked about positive experiences on your behalf?

Any employee that currently works for you and is willing to share their experiences are welcome in this thread. They won't be harrassed. No one will begrudge folks making an honest buck on paying work.

Also, contrary to what you've stated about spilling your guts, you are obligated. You've been keep making veiled remarks about legal actions against various people in this thread. This make you obligated to disclose contact information regarding your attorney and these legal matters.

Basically Rick, shit or get off the pot. Either drop the threats of legal action or cough up some contact information.

[Coppervale Studio]

I wasn't addressing the situation with Chuck Dixon - I was referencing the statement you made:

I have no problem paying what is owed to those individuals that have not broken their NDA's. I'm only awaiting word of those determinations.

In the two weeks or so this thread's been running, the lawyer should have been able to determine if SOMEONE could be paid, just so you could state that someone 'had been', not just that they're 'going to be'.

And my point in referring to the IDW project was to show an example of how it's supposed to work. If the reasons for going way past the dates creators were supposed to be paid aren't for lack of funds, and people aren't being paid (because of legal reasons borne of these contracts and NDA's), and no books are even being published, how exactly does that demonstrate a good business plan?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Hey, you're the one that involved himself. Frankly, I'd hope that anyone not willing to hear the answer and dates on their check would camp out on your doorstep.

Huh-wha???

[Matt Doc Martin]

Basically Rick, shit or get off the pot. Either drop the threats of legal action or cough up some contact information.

No kidding.

[orcafresh]

Val,
You said, "That's true. I don't understand why anyone would think an NDA protects them from non payment."

I don't think I ever said that your NDA meant you wouldn't get paid by my company. Your NDA, which you broke, actually placed you in legal harms way. And that is all I'm saying... Goodnite everyone!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Val,
You said, "That's true. I don't understand why anyone would think an NDA protects them from non payment."

I don't think I ever said that your NDA meant you wouldn't get paid by my company. Your NDA, which you broke, actually placed you in legal harms way. And that is all I'm saying... Goodnite everyone!

Don't let the door hit you in your empty head (up your ass) on the way out.

See you tomorrow, when you can duck yet more questions!

[Val]

taking action against you, remember? Wait until we get set and file before you file a countersuit.

You are?
For what?
What on earth could you possibly sue me for?

You didn't pay, Mr. Olney.
You still haven't paid.
The NDA does not protect you from this.

If you had paid me, and then I went public about details of your NDA, or inner workings, or private e-mails, then you could take me to court.
But as it stands, there's nothing in this NDA that allows you to sue me for stating I have not been paid.

But if you want to believe it does, then so be it.
If you'll simply post your attorney's name, we can by-pass some of the hurdles and get things underway.

Who is your attorney, Mr. Olney?

[Jeff Brady]

NOYB! Shame! Shame! Shame!:rolleyes:

Well if you don't tell, how can you sue anyone?

Obviously you've spent so much time creating dossiers of people you've dealt with, sending them all to your lawyer. If he/she's truly inundated with your claims, surely one of your predators would have received a subpoena or a summons to appear in court by now. Shirley, ah, er...surely we'd have heard about it and gotten your lawyers' name by now. His/her name would be on the paperwork.

Or, you could be utterly full of shit. 100 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag.

And hell, who cares about the fact that Gail isn't her real name? It's called not wanting to be stalked or threatened, it's called protecting her family from jackasses like you, from psycho fans and other ne'er-do-wells. I've known her real name for over three years, and I couldn't give a tug. I think it's smart, what she's done.

You seem to hold a grudge about that. I suggest you get over it.

Oh, and I'm no stranger to the Mohawk Valley. I'm from the Adirondacks. You clearly need a psychological evaluation, and lots of help. I hope you get it before you hurt yourself, your family, or anyone else.

Well... I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it all comes out then, right?

You'll hear from those involved soon enough. I'm taking action against you, remember? Wait until we get set and file before you file a countersuit.

In other words, wait until doomsday.

[wishlish]

There is absolutely no ethically or morally defensible reason why they haven't been already. Zero. None.

1st RULE: You do not talk about Rick Olney's Tight Lip NDA.

2nd RULE: You DO NOT TALK about Rick Olney's Tight Lip NDA.

3rd RULE: As soon as Rick Olney's lawyer says you'll get paid, you'll get paid.

4th RULE: No, you can't ask who Rick Olney's lawyer is! "Shame! Shame!"

5th RULE: blah blah blah blah blah

I'd make a joke comparing Olney to Brad Pitt, but, again, drug-addled brain. It would probably have to do with Brad Pitt making soap and Rick needing...well...

[Sarah Beach]

Originally Posted by Corrina
When.

In two weeks? Two months? Two years?

And I'd also like to know the name of your attorney.
NOYB! Shame! Shame! Shame!:rolleyes:

Well, actually, considering that she is a reporter and might be wishing to independantly verify facts, I don't think it's an unreasonable request on her part. That sort of thing actually is "her business".

[Smileybonex]

"Who is your attorney, Mr. Olney?"

any chance of another T-Shirt, Matt Doc martin?

[Night Swordsman]

Mind your business, well meaning troll.

Mind YOURS,and fullfill your business dealings and pay your DEBTS.

[rummblestrips]

Oh my

First, EVERYONE!!!!
There is NO POINT in arguing with Rick Olney. He is certifiable. He can't handle being wrong. There is a mountain of evidence and people against him right now, a normal SANE person would have trouble dealing with this situation. Just imagine how hard it would be for someone like Rick to deal with this. He can't! I think it's physically impossible for him to comprehend how others perceive him.

To Mark Waid - I met you YEARS ago when the Kingdom HC came out (which i read several times a year), it was either Mid Ohio or Pittsburgh, I can't remember! We talked briefly and till this day, I thought to myself, "what an amazingly nice man!!" And what you're doing here just proves that. YOU having a conversation with Rick is like a wise man speaking to a rock.. though I think Rick is infinitely more dense.

Gail - Modesty has been ingrained in the psyche of the western woman. It's time for you to stand up and say, "YES! I'M DAMN GOOD!" (because we'll ALL agree:D )

To Tim - I wish we could have talked back THEN more. I wanted so bad to email you time and time again and warn you about Rick and what an evil bastard he is, but I really felt like he turned you against me and a whole bunch of other people so I just stayed away. My hubby and I were just talking last night about you and how impressed we were at your work at the first (and only) MMC. I really hope that things continue to get better and better for you.

Ian - please send me copies of THE emails, I will need them in the next few months. (and please say Hi to your other, cuter half -wink-)

Lance - I will give you a huge hug the next time I see you, I promise you that.

Again, if you respond to Rick's ridiculous emails or posts, all he will do, as you've probably noticed already is "quote" your words, turn your words around in a complete nonsensical manner, respond to your words in a complete and utterly pathetic manner and then go to his MMC boards and bad mouth you behind your back. I've been through it all and I don't wish that experience on anyone!

[colleen]

I'm with Mike on this one.

I spent part of my day this past Friday in legal council about this matter.
I hate having to spend my time and money in an attorney's office dealing with non payment from a publisher who should have already paid. But given the scope of this matter, it has to be done.

I have no idea why Mr. Olney feels he has a legal leg to stand on here, or why he feels he can continue to delay payment citing the NDA as legal grounds to do so.

If another publisher who owed me money and was making similar claims, I would only assume they are doing their own legal research, they have misconstrued the words of their attorney, or they simply haven't told their attorney the full story in council.



Logically speaking, not many people can afford an attorney on retainer (which is essentially an advance to lawyers for their services).
Given how that money would go towards legal fees (councilling, research, phone calls, paperwork, etc, etc),
and given the hourly cost of most lawyers,
and given how much Mr. Olney has said he's been using his lawyer,
and given how no creators of late reported being paid on time prior to all of this,
well... you do the math.

I'm still waiting to learn who is representing Mr. Olney.
I hope he'll reveal this information soon rather than keeping it a mystery, as he has nothing to gain by not revealing his attorney's name.
It would make the process faster and easier if my attorney could speak with his.



That's true.
I don't understand why anyone would think an NDA protects them from non payment.


A few general thoughts to the board:


I went to my dad for some advice on this, and he doesn't pretend to have a sock puppet lawyer on the internet, he teaches Criminal Investigation at James Madison University.

In his professional opinion, there is no criminal action here. Therefore, continued threats of criminal prosecution are empty words.

It is not only extremely difficult to prosecute across state lines, but the federal statutes regarding stalking are highly unlikely to apply here. Snow in hell, and all that.

Moreover, I am with you, Val, in doubt as to the existence of the unnamed lawyer. In the first place, retainers are fabulously expensive, and unlikely to be within the budget, or even necessary, for a small press enterprise. I know multi-millionaires who do not have legal counsel on retainer.

Also, I went through a similar experience to this with a publisher in the 1980's. He breached the contract, then refused to pay or release me from the breached contract. In fact, he then threatened lawsuits, withheld all payments, and then demanded that I sign over my trademarks.

It was almost five years of dealing with this goober before he even got an attorney. He spent an entire five years pretending he had legal counsel. Only after a lawyer actually got involved did the matter get resolved because his attorney had a hell of a lot more sense than he did and forced his client to settle, and that was after he sued me three times trying to get the trademark on my book, dropping the suit repeatedly and refiling in two different states.

I retained my trademark, naturally.

More than a decade later, I ran into another creative team who worked for this company, and right-eo, they hadn't changed their business practices a bit. Again, too cheap to actually get a real attorney, the publisher spent about three years pretending to know what he was doing, and pretending he had an attorney. Only after the creators got representation from the Volunteer Lawyers for the Arts did the matter get resolved in their favor, and that took another year.

The good new is, this publisher is no longer publishing.


Sad to see the tactics still alive, though.



c

[Matt Doc Martin]

I know I am not terribly concerned about criminal prosecution.

Or where I take a piss.


"Dick" is a sad, pathetic man-child.


He won't share the name of the attorney because the attorney will say he is taking the piss and to disregard his rantings.

[Coppervale Studio]

Val,
You said, "That's true. I don't understand why anyone would think an NDA protects them from non payment."

I don't think I ever said that your NDA meant you wouldn't get paid by my company. Your NDA, which you broke, actually placed you in legal harms way. And that is all I'm saying... Goodnite everyone!

Okay, if someone can back up my logic, here, I'd like to offer a plan to STRENGTHEN Rick's legal position:

1) The creators' contention with Rick is that he hasn't paid them.

2) Rick's contention with the creators (as seen in the example above, with Val) is that several of them have broken the NDA's.

3) Rick has stated (again, example above) that the NDA has nothing to do with nonpayment.

4) Rick has stated that he has the wherewithal to pay; IS paying the attorney; and IS employing other creators for books that, quote, 'rock'.

SO -

It seems to me that paying the creators would not negate his claims AGAINST the creators for breaking the NDA's, right? So why doesn't Rick just PAY them what's owed, and THEN continue with his legal actions against them?

Theoretically, it would cut the legal costs in half; and it would also ELIMINATE the countersuits against him, as all the creators care about is being paid, and none have expressed any desire to pursue him for any reason except payment.

Does that make sense? Or does it actually make too MUCH sense?

And at this point, any good lawyer would be ASKING to get involved himself, because then it's billable time. Rick going back and forth with everyone isn't.

[Dreadstar]

Wow, this is an interesting scam, sort of.

So somone promises a payment for work done, and the contract for said payment includes an NDA. Now that person doesn't pay, but there's probably no timetable or deadline for said payment, so it can still be forthcoming. The person expecting the payment get's a bit pissed off after requesting it and being put off. A fair amount of time passes without payment, and the sum seems to be a bit small to make the small claims court a feasible otion via attorney fees.

Then the victim says publicly "Hey, where's my $200?" The scammer then says "Uh-oh, you just broke your NDA. I don't have to pay you now."


Sweet.

[Mike Bullock]

A non-disclosure agreement (NDA), also called a confidential disclosure agreement (CDA), confidentiality agreement or secrecy agreement, is a legal contract between at least two parties which outlines confidential materials or knowledge the parties wish to share with one another for certain purposes, but wish to restrict from generalized use. In other words, it is a contract through which the parties agree not to disclose information covered by the agreement. An NDA creates a confidential relationship between the parties to protect any type of trade secret. As such, an NDA can protect non-public business information.

Not paying people isn't a "trade secret", and not covered in the slightest by an NDA.

I'm sure you must be your own attorney, as the saying goes "A man who represents himself has a fool for a client." And no one who could actually remain gainfully employed as an attorney would hand out the blatantly erroneous advice you're shoveling here.

I'll tell you what, pay me and my artists and we'll post here that you've done so and you'll have at least 3 pros claiming you did the right thing. In fact, I'll even send out a Press Release on it.

Otherwise, keep acting like this is some sort of low-budget espionage movie starring David Hasselhoff as the dashing, immoral comic creator and George 'The Animal' Steel as you, the aggrieved publisher.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Otherwise, keep acting like this is some sort of low-budget espionage movie starring David Hasselhoff as the dashing, immoral comic creator and George 'The Animal' Steel as you, the aggrieved publisher.

George The Animal Steel has more hair. "Dick" is thinning up top.

[THEDOC]

George The Animal Steel has more hair. "Dick" is thinning up top.

I think "Rick" has been eating too many turnbuckles.!!!!

[OMAR]

What does your lawyer say about that when he finishes laughing?

"I've already told you to stop bothering me. Now get out of here before I have to call the police again. And for the last time, no, I don't know anyone who is in the market for a used van."

[Sarah Beach]

Originally posted by orcafresh:
Ummm... I can tell you that when Mr. Dixon was confronted with the fact that he had entered into an NDA and contract that he suddenly balked and made the choice of dancing around the issue. Then he said he didn't have either. Then he said we'd have our respective attornies look it over. Then his troll contingent began their nonsense and the moderator went stark raving blind.

"Suddenly balked"?? Chuck has not deviated from his statement that he did not sign a NDA. He has, however, once it was given to his lawyer to deal with shut up about the case details, as is proper. Why should he waste his time "dicking" around in public? He's got better things to do.

"Troll contingent"? Again, Himself was the intruding troll, not the regulars (you'd think someone online as long as Himself would know these distinctions by now).

And, oh dear, looky here! "The moderator went stark raving blind". Whatever that means. Heh. Well, I didn't give him the preferential treatment he was demanding, I suppose that's what he means. But "stark raving"???? How come I've had many people praise me in public and private about my conduct? I just don't know. Perhaps their perception of the universe is skewed? Hey ho.

[Wil Radcliffe]

I maen, when my attorney read that and then subsequently looked into Mr. Waid ... he smiled a great big happy meal smile.


With your record of payment, I doubt your "lawyer" can even afford a Happy Meal... or even the toy surprise.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Rick as someone who really is more or less reading this for my own twisted form of enertainment and see industry pros wiegh in against you , I gotta ask. Wouldn't it speed things up if you at least sent Val your attorney's contact info ?

This way you could publish Tales of the Spooky and move on ? Why the holdup on this ? You have many here requesting his name and all to get in touch.


edit to add....

Why would your attorney think sueing Mark Waid is a good idea ? Its clear he's gonna help those file against you but why would he get sued ? Cleary its because he won't write Green Arrow and save me from reading Judd Winick's work is my guess ! :)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

You didn't hurt the point. One has nothing to do with the other. Maybe you can back out of your contract with the cabinet painter, but you can't use as your reason "because I'm now in a legal battle with the totally unconnected guy who built the cabinet." Maybe I should have said, "I can't refuse to pay you for shoveling snow off my sidewalk based on the fact that I'm suing the guy who laid the cement."


Once the 3 days pass and you do the work , yeah your legally held to pay up. That much we agree on. And if someone does have a problem with the previous contractor who did work for them , its clear they should make a point to not sign with you and want you to do it as you posted.

[Corrina]

Ummm... I can tell you that when Mr. Dixon was confronted with the fact that he had entered into an NDA and contract that he suddenly balked and made the choice of dancing around the issue. Then he said he didn't have either. Then he said we'd have our respective attornies look it over. Then his troll contingent began their nonsense and the moderator went stark raving blind. :p



That's (no surprise), a gross misrepresentation of everything that happened at Dixonverse.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Check out his latest blog. He's plagarizing himself.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Any 1st year paralegal knows this sort of behavior constitues "wasting the courts time" and will quickly place the time-waster high on the Judge's "least favorite people" list.

Following the 'one plus one equals two' rule, anyone can quickly see that you'll still have to pay us what you owe us, AND pay for attorney fees, court costs, filing fees and various and sundry other debts incurred due to frivolous litigation. At least you'll be doing your part for the judicial economy. I'm sure, from an attorney's POV, such activities are just what PT Barnum had in mind...

Huh..this is where one of his links takes you.

[Night Swordsman]

"Suddenly balked"?? Chuck has not deviated from his statement that he did not sign a NDA. He has, however, once it was given to his lawyer to deal with shut up about the case details, as is proper. Why should he waste his time "dicking" around in public? He's got better things to do.

"Troll contingent"? Again, Himself was the intruding troll, not the regulars (you'd think someone online as long as Himself would know these distinctions by now).

And, oh dear, looky here! "The moderator went stark raving blind". Whatever that means. Heh. Well, I didn't give him the preferential treatment he was demanding, I suppose that's what he means. But "stark raving"???? How come I've had many people praise me in public and private about my conduct? I just don't know. Perhaps their perception of the universe is skewed? Hey ho.

Stark Raving Sarah! It is a cute nickname,only matched by the cuteness of the person it belongs to! :D

But in all seriousness...Olney's posting over and over here only proves that he is seriously worried,and knows that a lawsuit against him that MIGHT not happen is now very close,if in not,to becoming factual.
Pay your DEBTS Mr. Olney. One person? MAYBE..over 20? That is a LARGE factor ANY Judge will take into consideration,when brought forth several people willing BEYOND this who have had personal dealings with you to attest to your personality and conduct. You have NO MORAL GROUND to complain about ANYONE'S personal behavior till you fix your own.

And LET me get this straight. Feel FREE to sue me.
Who am i?
You said it yourself...NOYB. You know NOTHING about me,you know i live in Oregon,and know only what details i CHOOSE to share about myself and my life on here. So,with all that knowledge,you know i am a white caucasian male who lives in oregon,reads comics,goes on YABS,and likes SK716 alot!
You will NEVER,EVER get ANY personal info about me,and you can NOT post it here.

To sum up what i feel about you,Rick Olney?
You sir,are both incompetent and impotent at the same time.
You are immoral slug who hurts people to boost your ego and make money.
You hurt and betray people who take a chance in trusting you,all the while using their reputations to build up yours.

You are a leech,one without any sense of moral compass.

You,are a user and a loser.

And you refuse to acknowledge one simple request,one that is normal,but i will go one higher: Acknowledge the name of your Lawyer and his/her contact information,and i will be GLAD to post that of mine,which at that time you can CHOOSE to contact my legal representation and find out my name,city and address to attempt to sue me.

You will not,because you are a liar and a coward. AND i am telling YOU that to YOUR face.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Check out his latest blog. He's plagarizing himself.

Sad. So very, very sad.

[Buckminster Futter]

"I'm sorry if I scared you with my threat of having had you online investigated. It NEVER happened. It was WORDS meant to push your buttons. - Rick Olney 6/13/99"

Hey, he was addressing me way back then with that crock o' wack!

Folks, he doesn't have a lawyer "on retainer". Not now and not seven years ago when he was making the same idiotic threats on Comicon.com. If a meal for four at a diner taps him out and his credit card gets turned down at some fleabag motel and if he indeed has, as has been alleged here, a beat-up old van in his front yard with a handpainted "For Sale - $1500" sign on it, as well as a marked dearth of bath soap and deodorant in his household...he could never afford to have a lawyer on retainer. I would go so far as to conjecture that he doesn't have one yet - but if he does, he must have a really bad one ("Stephen Harris" must work dirt cheap and, apparently, maybe just for Happy Meals). As has been pointed out on this thread by cooler and wiser heads, what lawyer would conceivably give him the advice to act as he has here (and elsewhere)?

He hasn't called any police department about any of this, there aren't six comics creators currently working for him, there aren't "friends" e-mailing him any "heads-ups" about his good name being sullied, etc., etc., ad nauseum. Everything he says is complete and utter horseshit.

My heart bleeds for those he's harmed in this fiasco, and I proffer a tip of my beret to Mark Waid for his selfless and, yes goddamnit, heroic offer in this regard. But I would like The Stinky One (I know you're there!) to know this - there are those of us who were at Comicon.com back in the day who are observing all this and absolutely loving the prospect of you getting what you've so richly deserved for so very long. And, just for old times sake, I'd like to end this post the way I did so many others way back when at that venerated website...

Fuck you Rick.

[OzBat!]

For any of those creators who've been told they've violated their NDA...

Are we able to see the NDA? Or does the NDA refer to itself as part of the company's trade secrets?

I'd love to see what's supposedly so binding about these things.

[Daneault]

Check out his latest blog. He's plagarizing himself.

Do you have a link?

[Val]

OzBat!:

Posting the NDA would be a violation of the NDA.
So we can't post that.
Sorry.

[Kurt Busiek]

But if you want to believe it does, then so be it.
If you'll simply post your attorney's name, we can by-pass some of the hurdles and get things underway.

Who is your attorney, Mr. Olney?

Why wait for him to tell you? It does nothing but give him time.

Just sue him. Lack of action benefits him, not anyone he owes money to.

kdb

[OzBat!]

OzBat!:

Posting the NDA would be a violation of the NDA.
So we can't post that.
Sorry.Thanks for the clarification, Val.

If the NDA has already been violated, you could presumably post it, but that would depend on whether or not you consider yourself to have violated it or not, I'm guessing - which of course would have flow-on effects in any legal proceedings.

[TCJohnson]

Hack attempts? Spam?

Paranoia...check.

And isn't Mickey Mouse a registered trademark? Do we need to involve Walt Disney in your sad attempts at insults, "Dick"?

Just to point out, so far Mr. Olney has only accused others of things he has done himself. Have you noticed that?

Isn't CBR being attacked by hackers right now?

[Jeff Brady]

Just to point out, so far Mr. Olney has only accused others of things he has done himself. Have you noticed that?

Isn't CBR being attacked by hackers right now?

It would explain the slowness the past couple of days.

[Matt Algren]

Nah, just boring computer stuff.For some reason, the Web server has just been shutting down. Not sure what's going on. It's a simple fix once noticed.

If any of you notice it happening, feel free to drop me a line at jonah@comicbookresources.com. I can reset it from my phone, in fact, so feel free to e-mail me anytime.

One thing we may need to do is move the CSBG blog to another server. This server is currently hosting both CSBG and the Forums, and I think that's just too much for it to handle right now.

[Val]

Why wait for him to tell you? It does nothing but give him time.

Just sue him. Lack of action benefits him, not anyone he owes money to.

True enough! :)

[Matt Doc Martin]

Just to point out, so far Mr. Olney has only accused others of things he has done himself. Have you noticed that?

Isn't CBR being attacked by hackers right now?

Rick cannot be troubled to run a spell checker properly, or to come up with original writings. Hacking is a bit beyond him, I think.

[howyadoin]

Isn't CBR being attacked by hackers right now?Jonah said the server keeps shutting down. He didn't say anything about hackers being the problem, as far as I know.

[MacQuarrie]

Obviously, it is painful to see so many people, assumingly good people, crossing legal lines. My intention is not to scare anyone with lawsuits. It is to un-ball the mess of Tales of The Spooky#1...
You can do that by paying people.

The only person crossing legal lines here is you.

[Wil Radcliffe]

Do you have a link?

Here (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=214350568&MyToken=06a47985-bdbf-4806-b12d-377cbcc8389d) 'tis!

[EdContradictory]

"Lying deadbeat's logic?"

Four days! You could only stay away for four days!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Here (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=214350568&MyToken=06a47985-bdbf-4806-b12d-377cbcc8389d) 'tis!


So who was he calling the sociopath?

[OzBat!]

I said I believed it to be a potential spam attack, but this was before getting confirmation from anybody involved with servers etc.

[Draconomicon]

Here (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59528410&blogID=214350568&MyToken=06a47985-bdbf-4806-b12d-377cbcc8389d) 'tis!

*Rolls laughing*
He refers to Gail as "jealous spiteful person"
This is FUNNY!

[EdContradictory]

"Lying deadbeat's logic?"

Four days! You could only stay away for four days!

[Matt Doc Martin]

Four days! You could only stay away for four days!

Four days = forever in his world. Much like "dodging the issue" = paid debts.

[TCJohnson]

So who was he calling the sociopath?

That would be me.

I get to sue him now for libel.

[EdContradictory]

Who emailed you about this party? It wasn't me. Hope you have deep pockets full of change.

This is "Gail's" shiot party, not mine. I'm just the topic subject.
.

Jesus, you just threatened Mark Waid.

[EdContradictory]

This isn't a take a cheap shot at Rick Olney thread and walk away untouched.
No, it's creators warning other creators about a lousy possible employer.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Jesus, you just threatened Mark Waid.

You missed a few good entries. If there was doubt he is a man unhinged, it has been erased.

[stealthwise]

Nah, just boring computer stuff.

CSBG eh? I knew it!

Crrrroooooooonnnniiiiiiinnnnnnn!

[EdContradictory]

You missed a few good entries. If there was doubt he is a man unhinged, it has been erased.

It's just disgusting and pathetic that Olney's watching the deserved destruction of any remainder of goodwill he had on the comics interweb and all he's seeing is dollar signs.

He should be ashamed... not imagining buying a yacht.

[Gerry Alanguilan]

I'm speechless. I knew Rick online from way back, and always thought of him as someone who was very positive about comics. I never interacted with him on a regular basis and I haven't gone around the web too much so I was clueless as to what his true character was until these last few days. And I'm truly appalled. As someone who knows what it's like not to get paid, I know painful this kind of experience can be, and on top of that to be lied to... it's just too much. Rick, what's with you? These people did work for you. The only decent thing to do is pay them. And my God, pay them NOW.

This is for you, on behalf of everyone you have to pay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTF2ZkqCa4M