The G.L's vs The Avengers

[Batmanjr]

The G.L's:
Alan
Hal
Guy
Kyle
John

Vs

The Avengers:
Thor
Iron Man
Namor
Vision
Quasar

Who wins ?

The G.L's are orderd to bring down or bring the Avengers team Members of Thor, Iorn Man, Vision, Namor and Quasar.

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Just for thought:
just like in my orther thread i had of the G.L's Vs The JLA team of Supes, WW, Manhunter, Aquaman and Flash...Which of the two teams between the Avengers and the JLAers would prove to be the tougher match up for the G.L's to combat....?

[Pendaran]

The Lanterns actually win here, as under standard fight conditions, they're not especially outsped, and can activate various powers without getting fragged into paste.

Iron Man, Vision and Namor are well beneath Lanterns in capacity, meaning they'll get taken out in fairly short order while Quasar and Thor are held at bay long enough, which leaves Quasar and Thor being ganged up on

[Holacik]

The Lanterns actually win here, as under standard fight conditions, they're not especially outsped, and can activate various powers without getting fragged into paste.

Iron Man, Vision and Namor are well beneath Lanterns in capacity, meaning they'll get taken out in fairly short order while Quasar and Thor are held at bay long enough, which leaves Quasar and Thor being ganged up on

Shouldn't Vision's ability to phase come into play? Can't he just phase through any constructs that the GL's have and be able to get through thier shields?

[da noble savage]

Shouldn't Vision's ability to phase come into play? Can't he just phase through any constructs that the GL's have and be able to get through thier shields?

Gl rings can do alot more then just make constructs. Then can rearrange his atomic structure to stone or something so that he can't phaze,or one of the many other plot device powers it has.

[Pendaran]

That's a point, though I'm fairly certain that Lanterns have adjusted their blasts to hit the intangible. That aside, they could also still manipulate the Vision's internal energies/mess around with EMP effects.

[Captain Smith]

Not to relive an old closed thread but this one implies prep time. Or does it? Ordered - means a finite time between the order and implementation unless the two sets are lined up, glaring at each other and the Guardians say - Go get them.

I don't see that. Also do the Avenger know they are targeted? This is a problem with ill defined scenarios. Do the GLs arrive like a SWAT team and yell - we have a warrant from the Guardians? Maybe if so, Tony just says - we won't talk - I'm calling my lawyer and they all just go into custody.

Thus, GLs should:

1. Rendevous in space.
2. Have the rings located the Avengers (where they are is important to the strategy).
3. Iron Man
Namor
Vision

They are probably on Earth - just nuke them from space.

4. Quasar and Thor - more problems but with significant surprise - they are taken down.

As you can see, I'm for stealth attacks if allowed rather than the slug feast.

[da noble savage]

Not to relive an old closed thread but this one implies prep time. Or does it? Ordered - means a finite time between the order and implementation unless the two sets are lined up, glaring at each other and the Guardians say - Go get them.

I don't see that. Also do the Avenger know they are targeted? This is a problem with ill defined scenarios. Do the GLs arrive like a SWAT team and yell - we have a warrant from the Guardians? Maybe if so, Tony just says - we won't talk - I'm calling my lawyer and they all just go into custody.

Thus, GLs should:

1. Rendevous in space.
2. Have the rings located the Avengers (where they are is important to the strategy).
3. Iron Man
Namor
Vision

They are probably on Earth - just nuke them from space.

4. Quasar and Thor - more problems but with significant surprise - they are taken down.

As you can see, I'm for stealth attacks if allowed rather than the slug feast.

The only way you could have a stealth opion would be if this where a senrio fight. Since no location for this fight is named it's defaulted to the arena and since no prep is stated that means no prep and nobody can do anything untill the starting bell.

[Captain Smith]

Then let's stop with the GLs are ordered to take them in business. Have it an arena fight with a start from the bell.

Otherwise, it makes no sense - and this one didn't say NO Prep in the description. Are we forced to abandon the commonsense meaning of the language from ill described scenarios?

[da noble savage]

Then let's stop with the GLs are ordered to take them in business. Have it an arena fight with a start from the bell.

Otherwise, it makes no sense - and this one didn't say NO Prep in the description. Are we forced to abandon the commonsense meaning of the language from ill described scenarios?

If it doesn't say prep then there no prep. How is that not commonsense to assume otherwise. Also per forum rules if no location is selected or no senero set up then it's a arena fight.

I mean it just say's these guys vs these guys. That's not a senero so what if it says the gls are ordered to bring them in that just gives there reason to fight it doesn't set up a senero. I think the problem is your reading to much into it and are dispointed that your the only one.

[da noble savage]

hhaha i'm a idiot hit the wrong button.

[Batmanjr]

Thor could take any of the GL's, and considering sonics has proven to be very successful against GL's in the past, Iron Man is practically Gl-kryptonite here
Quasar I'd give majority over any GL, and Vision (with phasing) will be a problem for them aswell.
Namor would clearly have some problem against a GL, but I'm sure that he is strong and fast enough to give anyone of them a good fight. He might not get a majority, but he'll definitley make them work for it, and eventually he'll get support from either Thor, Quasar or IM.

[Charge]

Thor could take any of the GL's, and considering sonics has proven to be very successful against GL's in the past, Iron Man is practically Gl-kryptonite here
Quasar I'd give majority over any GL, and Vision (with phasing) will be a problem for them aswell.
Namor would clearly have some problem against a GL, but I'm sure that he is strong and fast enough to give anyone of them a good fight. He might not get a majority, but he'll definitley make them work for it, and eventually he'll get support from either Thor, Quasar or IM.

Since when have any competent GLs ever had a problem with sonic weapons? Thor would get the majority over the average GL, yes. But Iron man, Namor and possibly the vision would have their asses handed to them by any competent, bloodlusted, GL... Splitting atoms and uber-nuking the arena is a viable option after all...


A question for lochdale (or any other Thor fan.): Could Thor Blitz the GLs before they reacted?

[Captain Smith]

Toe to toe fight in the Arena - once again, I comment on the lack of specificity by the poster. If you want an arena fight say so and cut the 'ordered to' silliness.

At the start:

GLs - deploy powerful shields and launch wide beam energy attacks.

Iron Man, Namor, Vision are eliminated.

Then fight it out with Thor and Quasar - hard battle, probably lose one or two but the MU dudes go down.

[Pike]

I think Thor could blitz the GLs for sure.

That aside though I ahve to agree with Captain Smith here.

What are the rules? Arena? Bloodlust? PIS and CIS off?

If that is the case then Thor does an area wide lightning attack. Except its magical lightning that is augmenting 1000 times the power of true lightning. Just read a Thor comic where he did that. So he can do a planet level storm at 1000 times the power of normal lightning and it's a magical attack.

How many GL's will survive that? All the Avengers will also die except for Quasar.

[Captain Morgan]

The only GL who had a problem with sonics was newb Kyle. But his ring back then lacked the auto-shielding and other various random abilities, where as his most recent version (before he became Ion II) had his ring upgraded before he restarted the central power battery.

The language does kind of imply this is an in character fight, but since the OP isn't obviously going to clarify, I'm not sure what to make of it. I see the GLs taking it though. Thor is the only real hurdle, since he has some speed on his his side, and I don't think Quasar can take 2 GLs at once.