More CrossGen trades are coming!

[Augie De Blieck Jr.]

SCION and WAY OF THE RAT are included in this:

http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40093

Quoth Ron Marz:

I assume Checker paid a licensing fee to Disney to get this stuff into print, and for access to the files. It would be a nice gesture on Checker's part to track down the creators and throw a couple of bucks our way, but I don't expect it. I'm just hoping to get a few comp copies.

And Chuck Dixon has mentioned on his message board that he's looking into all of this, as well.

Interesting.

-Augie

[torippu]

SCION and WAY OF THE RAT are included in this:

http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40093

Quoth Ron Marz:



And Chuck Dixon has mentioned on his message board that he's looking into all of this, as well.

Interesting.

-Augie
I'd love to have copies of Vol. 3 & Vol. 4 of the Negation trades that are on the schedule. Negation is still one of my all-time favorite comic books series (just re-read it earlier this year) - Paul Pelletier's art has never looked better than when Dave Meikis was inking him!

[miracle.eli]

Thanks for posting this Aug -- I'm a member at comicbloc but I only check the Ron Marz forum for CG news (was not expecting it elsewhere in their forums).

Brian had mentioned it on VALIANTfans, so I posted it on CGCreators.net a few days ago. The info is NOT from CheckerBPG though, it is from Amazon.com, which has been wrong in the past...

I hope these come out!

.wil.

[pmpknface]

Great... now I have ANOTHER msg bd to check up on... :p

[Dave Hudson]

I thought the Crossgen creators were all employees with a salary rather than work for hire and thus are not entitled to royalties/reprint fees or am I totally wrong?

[miracle.eli]

No, you're right Dave. Check comicbloc.com, or ask Ron Marz yourself. :)
.w.

[Augie De Blieck Jr.]

True, but there was also certain creator participation involved, and moneys owed the employees by the time CrossGen went under. I believe that, legally, that's all been sorted through at the time of bankruptcy and the sale of the properties. By law, that's all done and over with. Disney owns everything and the creators involved have been given all they're ever going to get.

Not that it wouldn't be nice for Checker to throw a few bones the creators' way, but they shouldn't be considered the bad guys if they don't. It's a messy and sad situation, but it is what it is.

Go pick up SAMURAI: HEAVEN AND EARTH if you want to support Ron Marz now -- it's a great book, with a trade of the first mini currently available.

-Augie

[miracle.eli]

I do have S:H&E II on my pull list, and own the first trade -- it's very good (if a little slow).

Anyway check out this interview Cory Blake posted with CheckerBPG about the CrossGen material! (http://www.cgcreators.net/2006/12/20/exclusive-checker-bpg-publisher-talks-crossgen-collection-reprints/)

Post on the forum too!

.wil.

[Augie De Blieck Jr.]

Very cool. Thanks for the link, Wil. I posted it to ComicNe.ws, as well.

I'd love to see CrossGen Omnibus editions. How cool would Jimmy Cheung's SCION be? But, then, I asked for CG HCs back in the day, and couldn't get them. (Alessi wasn't against the idea, but it was just never the right time.)

-Augie

[BloodRedSandman]

http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40093
Cool. Negation and Sigel are there too.
However i don't see Miridain and Negation War.

[Augie De Blieck Jr.]

I don't remember the state of specific titles when CrossGen went under, but it seems that Checker is only publishing trades for which the material was available and, likely, already in the process of production for a trade. MERIDIAN was canceled by the time CG finished. Were all the issues collected in trade already? If not, maybe they weren't planning for the trade anymore by that point.

And did NEGATION WAR ever finish?

Good news, though: More Jimmy Cheung art in the SCION trade announced in the most recent PREVIEWS.

-Augie

[miracle.eli]

Aug-
We should TOTALLY petition for a SCION HC! They can put 1-43 in it since it should have ended when Jim and Ron left. Plus, the 'Prince Valiant' ish kinda works as an ok ending itself...
.w.

[Augie De Blieck Jr.]

The SCION OMNIBUS? It's a beautiful dream, but a doubtful one. Now, a 12 or 13 issue hardcover might be doable. . . After Checker burns through these new trades, let's see if they show any interest in going back. A nice hardcover with an essay explaining how the series came to be and why the sigil is there might be a nice thing. I think the series -- like all CG titles at the time -- stands well enough on its own to merit the special edition.

Cheung's art never looked better.

-Augie

[goman]

I would definetly get a Scion HC! That was the only Crossgen series I really followed, mostly because I was so impressed by Cheung's art. I might consider picking up a Ruse or a Sojourn HC, as those two always looked interesting and seemed to have great art. Guice and Land would probably look decent in oversized format.

[miracle.eli]

I have to bump this thread -- has anyone seen these Checker TPBs?? My shop just informed me that they are still delayed... :(
.wil.

[torippu]

Nope - was wondering what happened to them myself. Wasn't there an article over at newsarama either this week or last with an interview with the guy from Checker Publishing?

[Augie De Blieck Jr.]

Yeah, I just saw this, too:

http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/07/20/checkers-crossgen-reprint-no-shows/

Disappointing.

-Augie

[torippu]

I'd still like to get the 2 Negation trades that Checker has solicited. It's still one of my all-time favorite reads! Is it OK these days to admit that I still miss Crossgen? They came along at a time when I was really not enjoying the Quemas era at Marvel and had gravitated to their books due to the huge number of creators that moved down to the compound in Orlando. It was such a body blow the day that it was announced that Chuck Dixon was leaving all of his DC books behind for the Sigilverse.

[sschroeder]

It looks like Sojourn Vol. 5 is shipping this week.

[Augie De Blieck Jr.]

Trip - the Bat Books STILL haven't recovered from Dixon's departure. And it's OK to admit you like CrossGen. They were great books. I've been pondering rereading some of them lately, myself. For some reason, CRUX is calling out to me.

-Augie

[kevhines]

Definitely, I still miss Crossgen.

I loved the Path and Way of the Rat. Found Route 666 really good. And Scion was starting to fade near the end (I only read trades so I was still in Cheung issues) but Meridian kept getting stronger.

I was never found of the books connection, so I always feared about the long term future of the books, but in the short term they were refreshing and wonderful.

Oh, I also loved Waid's Ruse issues. Me and everyone.

[torippu]

And it's OK to admit you like CrossGen. They were great books. I've been pondering rereading some of them lately, myself. For some reason, CRUX is calling out to me.

-Augie
I never got around to reading Crux. Or The First. Or Meridian. Or Brath. Or El Cazador. Of these books, I think that I am most interested in Brath (for the Dixon/Di Vito creative team) and El Cazador (once again Chuck Dixon strikes again). These may be some books that I will track down some day.

Here's a question - why isn't Chuck Dixon doing more work for one of the Big Two? Has he been blacklisted for those comments he made a couple of years ago? Or was it by design - taking on work for independent publishers?

[torippu]

Oh, I also loved Waid's Ruse issues. Me and everyone.
Yeah - his issues were top notch. It's a shame that the ones written by Scott Beatty weren't up to snuff. Did this book get a proper ending or was it left unfinished? The creative team didn't hurt the book either - Butch Guice penciling, Mike Perkins inking & Laura Martin coloring.

[Augie De Blieck Jr.]

Hey Trip - THE FIRST was the one book I could NEVER get into.

I'm not entirely sure about Dixon. I do think the current editorial regimes at both Marvel and DC aren't terribly fond of him, but I also think he likes doing more independent work aimed at a broader audience. NIGHTWING could use him right now, though -- BADLY. But he probably wouldn't get the chance to do what he'd want, so what's the point, you know?

It's a shame that EL CAZADOR got the short shrift. It was the CrossGen book that started to convert some non-CrossGen readers over, but it was too little, too late.

I don't thnk RUSE ever got a proper finish. Shame, that.

-Augie

[pmpknface]

Only ever read Ruse w/ Guice and Waid. It was cool for a while....

[miracle.eli]

Yeah - his issues were top notch. It's a shame that the ones written by Scott Beatty weren't up to snuff. Did this book get a proper ending or was it left unfinished? The creative team didn't hurt the book either - Butch Guice penciling, Mike Perkins inking & Laura Martin coloring.

Only ever read Ruse w/ Guice and Waid. It was cool for a while....

I have to totally disagree with both of you here. Scott had a great run and had some massive stuff plotted out to issue 50. He loves to talk to RUSE fans too - drop him a line @ his site. The transition between the Waid issues and Beatty's was, admittedly, rocky - but after that the series topped Mark's run IMO. Check it out!

His SON OF VULCAN for DC was also excellent but was entirely ignored.

.wil.

[torippu]

I have to totally disagree with both of you here. Scott had a great run and had some massive stuff plotted out to issue 50. He loves to talk to RUSE fans too - drop him a line @ his site. The transition between the Waid issues and Beatty's was, admittedly, rocky - but after that the series topped Mark's run IMO. Check it out!

.wil.

The rocky issues are what made me lose interest. One of these days, I may get around to picking up the issues again.

I did pick up BRATH #Prequel ~ 14 last week on eBay for cheap ($0.01 + shipping). There's no way that I can turn down comic books for less than a buck an issue!

[Augie De Blieck Jr.]

Wil -

Hey, I liked SON OF VULCAN, too! Very much an overlooked gem. I think I was the only person who reviewed it sometimes. . .

Wow, I had completely forgotten about it until you mentioned it again!

-Augie

[De Carabas]

IIRC, Ruse was one of the few that was able to get a quick, cobbled together ending. Simon and Emma destroy the Engimatic Prism, thwarting Miranda, and Simon reveals that he knows about Emma's abilities. Now, please note this is my recollection of a comic I read four(?) years ago, but I'm fairly confident.

Beatty always had my sympathies. Ruse very quickly became the darling favorite of fans and reviewers (what few would touch CG books, that is), so Waid's sudden departure meant that NOBODY short of Alan Moore could have replaced him without feelings of disappointment. I liked Beatty's tenure, BUT it was a different book.

I've been avoiding this thread because it has been bumming me out just thinking about Crossgen books again. With possibly three exceptions, Patricia and I read just about every one of their main line of books.

EM

[torippu]

All this talk has me pondering a re-read of the Crossgen books left in my collection.

As I just re-read Negation last year, Route 666 recently and am currently making my way through Brath, I'm leaning towards either SCION or SIGIL. I have the full run of SOJOURN waiting as well, but don't have much interest in it at this time.

Speaking of Sigil, didn't I see Ray or Ben Lai's name as a conceptual/storyboard artist on one of the summer blockbusters this year? Transformers, maybe?