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bigman45
12-05-2006, 04:00 PM
so i have read up to week 28 but still don't know what it is .. is it 52 seconds of there time that they lost ? or what and all the events thats going on will they last or will they brings people back i don't want to say name because people might not have read them but
just know i was in awww when i found out where the metal came from to make skeeet !!! :eek:
but my point is this can some body tell me what is 52 or what happends when they hit 52
Joe Acro
12-05-2006, 04:04 PM
52 is a series covering the time between Infinite Crisis and One Year Later, focusing on second-tier characters.
No one knows for sure what the 52 that is constantly being referenced is, but that plot will not be resolved within the series.
StrikeForce Albert
12-05-2006, 04:14 PM
52 = Earth 2
Earth has 5 letters
E is the 5th letter of the alphabet
not really
MaxofSteel
12-05-2006, 04:51 PM
Yea what Joe said.
52 covers the year-long hiatus of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman in the DCU. It's what all the other heroes have been doing while the Big three were out of action.
52 weeks in a year btw.
Other than that, I don't know of any other significance of that number (I don't really read 52 so I couldn't say).
bigman45
12-05-2006, 04:55 PM
52 weeks in a year . wait tinking oh yeah that is right .. i say you should reed it its a good book but i'm only up to week 29 i never read the year later stuff is that good as well ? :eek:
lonesomefool
12-05-2006, 05:02 PM
As others have said 52 is named (supposedly) after the 52 weeks of the year, and thusly the 52 issues of the title, but characters have already talked about a "52" in the book, and judging by Green Lantern #15, even AFTER the missing year, it appears characters are still wondering what it is.
Hellstormer
12-05-2006, 05:05 PM
52 = Earth 2
Earth has 5 letters
E is the 5th letter of the alphabet
not really
Actually I think your not as far off as people might tihnk, all the characters in 52 could be apart of Earth 2 and look in the Legion of Super-Heroes even there 52 is being referenced. Red Tornado's head new about 52 because his body is actually on earthc 1 and.....nevermind.
TheTen-EyedMan
12-05-2006, 06:02 PM
52 ways to fleece a comic reader.
52 reasons to retreat into the distant past.
52 decisions made by the new D.C. writers that are WRONG.
but that plot will not be resolved within the series.
That's kinda awesome.
CaptainAwesome
12-05-2006, 07:06 PM
52 weeks in a year . wait tinking oh yeah that is right .. i say you should reed it its a good book but i'm only up to week 29 i never read the year later stuff is that good as well ? :eek:
If you have read any of the regular continuity DC books, besides 52 itself, within the last eight months, you have read One Year Later. It isnt another miniseries, it was simply an event that happened in all of the books being produced at the time. Essentially, anything that is happening now in the DCU is a year after Infinite Crisis. 52 cover the year long gap. One cant say that all of the OYL stuff was good, because it all depends on the creative teams.
And 52 is only up to week 30 currently, so you are not behind at all.
Jack Zodiac
12-05-2006, 07:45 PM
52 ways to fleece a comic reader.
52 reasons to retreat into the distant past.
52 decisions made by the new D.C. writers that are WRONG.
The Ten-Eyed Man showed up last week.
jackolover
12-06-2006, 02:01 PM
52 is a series covering the time between Infinite Crisis and One Year Later, focusing on second-tier characters.
No one knows for sure what the 52 that is constantly being referenced is, but that plot will not be resolved within the series.
What's so mysterious? It's 52 weekly comics for one year.
Joe Acro
12-06-2006, 02:12 PM
What's so mysterious? It's 52 weekly comics for one year.
I'm referring to the Oans spouting off "Fifty-two" in Green Lantern, the bomb Robin stopped stopping at 52 seconds, the Red Tornado screaming "52" in the pages of 52, and other places. It is a plot that will not be wrapped up in 52.
Matthew E
12-06-2006, 02:17 PM
Maybe not for the DC characters, but I bet it'll be made clear to the readers. Not necessarily resolved, but clear.
jackolover
12-06-2006, 02:28 PM
I'm referring to the Oans spouting off "Fifty-two" in Green Lantern, the bomb Robin stopped stopping at 52 seconds, the Red Tornado screaming "52" in the pages of 52, and other places. It is a plot that will not be wrapped up in 52.
Yeah. Having not read the comics, I can only surmise that those references were sprinkled amonst the books for misdirection. Sort of like a emblem placement.
mattx110
12-06-2006, 07:28 PM
I'm referring to the Oans spouting off "Fifty-two" in Green Lantern, the bomb Robin stopped stopping at 52 seconds, the Red Tornado screaming "52" in the pages of 52, and other places. It is a plot that will not be wrapped up in 52.
this sounds like the challengers kinda thing. 51,773,173 redux
TheTen-EyedMan
12-06-2006, 07:55 PM
The Ten-Eyed Man showed up last week.
I know...I read the proofs.
Not Phil Reardon though.
That's the Ten-EyedMan.
Jack Zodiac
12-06-2006, 09:26 PM
I know...I read the proofs.
Not Phil Reardon though.
That's the Ten-EyedMan.
A better, cooler, "Morrisoned" Ten-Eyed Man/Men. That had to be Grant's idea.
The Foreigner
12-06-2006, 10:02 PM
What's so mysterious? It's 52 weekly comics for one year.
Because that's not the only thing the title "52" relates to. There are in-story references to that number, and it's a mystery as to what it is.
I'd suggest reading the story before you ask "What's so mysterious" which is a very legitimate question.
TheTen-EyedMan
12-06-2006, 10:20 PM
A better, cooler, "Morrisoned" Ten-Eyed Man/Men. That had to be Grant's idea.
I admit freely that the original was a lame assed villain with a lame assed gimmick. But that's why I liked him. It's that 70's shlock that got me into comics.
Do you think Dr Tzin Tzin would work today?
I don't.
jam37wcc
12-06-2006, 10:22 PM
Here is what Wikipedia has on the number 52 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52_%28number%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52_%28number%29)
superlurker
12-07-2006, 02:24 AM
The Ten-Eyed Man showed up last week.
Well, to be precise, there were actually five ten-eyed men and one two-eyed one.
Matthew E
12-07-2006, 07:28 AM
this sounds like the challengers kinda thing. 51,773,173 redux
I remember that. And I actually kind of liked it. But I think you just lost a lot of people.
mattx110
12-07-2006, 12:46 PM
I remember that. And I actually kind of liked it. But I think you just lost a lot of people.
they need to do reprints or something, hype it as jeph loebs first major comic work or something. mannn, i don't even have all the issues, and i have no idea how it ended. i'm not even sure of some of the things going on, artificial nazi earth, the unknown soldier? it came out when i was veeeeerrry little, so i've had to find random issues around. it'd be nice to have a version with slick paper.
a new superhyped challengers with kyle baker, jim lee, bill sienkewiecz and whatever random comic guys who want to do an issue each would be nice. they just have to remember to keep the editting light and let them go nuts.
the villian in challengers (one of quite a few) was darkseid, so maybe that means something to 52.
52,000,000 minus 51,773,173=226827... that means nothing to me...
glennsim
12-07-2006, 02:03 PM
they need to do reprints or something, hype it as jeph loebs first major comic work or something. mannn, i don't even have all the issues, and i have no idea how it ended. i'm not even sure of some of the things going on, artificial nazi earth, the unknown soldier? it came out when i was veeeeerrry little, so i've had to find random issues around. it'd be nice to have a version with slick paper.
a new superhyped challengers with kyle baker, jim lee, bill sienkewiecz and whatever random comic guys who want to do an issue each would be nice. they just have to remember to keep the editting light and let them go nuts.
the villian in challengers (one of quite a few) was darkseid, so maybe that means something to 52.
52,000,000 minus 51,773,173=226827... that means nothing to me...
I think there's some confusion, and it might be me.
DC Challenge was a 12-issue series published in 1986. It featured a "round-robin" format, where one writer and artist would do an issue, and leave the story with cliffhangers, and then another writer and artist would come along and try to figure out a way to get the characters out of it, and then move the focus to other characters, leaving them in another cliffhanger. This series had a numeric puzzle, as well as a visit to a Nazi-run Earth and the Unknown Soldier. No Jeph Loeb on this series.
Challengers of the Unknown, having had several runs, had one written by Jeph Loeb in 1991. I've never read this one, so I don't know if it contains a number puzzle or a Nazi-Earth or the Unknown Soldier.
Two separate things.
mattx110
12-07-2006, 03:14 PM
I think there's some confusion, and it might be me.
DC Challenge was a 12-issue series published in 1986. It featured a "round-robin" format, where one writer and artist would do an issue, and leave the story with cliffhangers, and then another writer and artist would come along and try to figure out a way to get the characters out of it, and then move the focus to other characters, leaving them in another cliffhanger. This series had a numeric puzzle, as well as a visit to a Nazi-run Earth and the Unknown Soldier. No Jeph Loeb on this series.
Challengers of the Unknown, having had several runs, had one written by Jeph Loeb in 1991. I've never read this one, so I don't know if it contains a number puzzle or a Nazi-Earth or the Unknown Soldier.
Two separate things.
you're probably right. i only have a few issues of the 86 one, so i don't know who wrote each one. i read about jeph loebs involvement in a challengers series in an Elliot S! Maggin thing and didn't realize it was a different series.
anyway, they should give em both a good treatment with spiffy new paper. without jeph's name on it, is curt swan still a big enough name or do these kids not care? it's kinda odd, because comics is a very niche market, but you can never tell what'll fly and what won't. maybe curt needed a son in comics, cause john romita's name seems more talked about now. you'd think drawing superman for decades would be enough to get name recognition outside of the comic world...
glennsim
12-07-2006, 06:18 PM
you're probably right. i only have a few issues of the 86 one, so i don't know who wrote each one. i read about jeph loebs involvement in a challengers series in an Elliot S! Maggin thing and didn't realize it was a different series.
anyway, they should give em both a good treatment with spiffy new paper. without jeph's name on it, is curt swan still a big enough name or do these kids not care? it's kinda odd, because comics is a very niche market, but you can never tell what'll fly and what won't. maybe curt needed a son in comics, cause john romita's name seems more talked about now. you'd think drawing superman for decades would be enough to get name recognition outside of the comic world...
For about half that time, they didn't have artist credits.
I have a lot of...respect...for Curt Swan's work. Not something I can say I love though.
Swan was only one of many artists on DC Challenge. Quite frankly, I think most people would say that DC Challenge was a bit of a mess story-wise. One could say that the writers set themselves up with a challenge they couldn't meet. It's really more about the art than the story. In the Dave Gibbons one he drew a lot of characters who he hadn't drawn before (like Captain Marvel), and it looked really cool. But nothing worthy of reprinting.
mattx110
12-07-2006, 06:47 PM
For about half that time, they didn't have artist credits.
I have a lot of...respect...for Curt Swan's work. Not something I can say I love though.
Swan was only one of many artists on DC Challenge. Quite frankly, I think most people would say that DC Challenge was a bit of a mess story-wise. One could say that the writers set themselves up with a challenge they couldn't meet. It's really more about the art than the story. In the Dave Gibbons one he drew a lot of characters who he hadn't drawn before (like Captain Marvel), and it looked really cool. But nothing worthy of reprinting.
i thought the writing was fun. it's kinda like an "add 2 lines to this horror story" kinda thing. i never went camping, i never got to do that sorta thing. plus, there's so much trouble with continuity issues, it'd be nice to have a book that doesn't care about that stuff without anyone getting pissed.
AaronJ
12-07-2006, 06:50 PM
Do you think Dr Tzin Tzin would work today?
I don't.
I don't know who that character is. But if 52 has shown us anything, it is that there is no such thing as a character too lame to somehow be made cool and used again.
Witness the once-uber-lame (and patently offensive), but now hideously cool Egg-Fu.
bigman45
12-08-2006, 06:49 PM
well let ask u this do the 52 and the meaning have any thing to do with the superman book FOR TOMORROW ? because the people in there were gone for a year right ?:eek:
Hellstormer
12-08-2006, 07:15 PM
I don't know who that character is. But if 52 has shown us anything, it is that there is no such thing as a character too lame to somehow be made cool and used again.
Witness the once-uber-lame (and patently offensive), but now hideously cool Egg-Fu.
You know he was Morrisionfied.
Ok I figured it out 52 is the official dropping of the CCA by DC. 52 years ago the CCA was started and DC had to cancel the book Tales of the Unexpected whiwch is currentaly being updated in an 8 issues miniseries. Yep I'm a genius.:D
Hellstormer
12-18-2006, 03:55 PM
Ok new theory after reading the Wizard interview one of the hints of 52's meaning was to look at the title bullet's color. I looked through all of them and they're eaither red or blue except for 2 that are light blue and green.
ReccaSquirrel
12-18-2006, 04:33 PM
I find it interesting that outside of the Guardians in OYL, all of the spoken references to 52 have come from Robots.
ReccaSquirrel
12-18-2006, 04:35 PM
Ok new theory after reading the Wizard interview one of the hints of 52's meaning was to look at the title bullet's color. I looked through all of them and they're eaither red or blue except for 2 that are light blue and green.
There was an interview on 52 where it was pointed out that clues to 52 have been planted right on the covers of each issue.
Jack Zodiac
12-18-2006, 05:33 PM
I find it interesting that outside of the Guardians in OYL, all of the spoken references to 52 have come from Robots.
Ambush Bug. ;)
Paul Newell
12-18-2006, 05:39 PM
I find it interesting that outside of the Guardians in OYL, all of the spoken references to 52 have come from Robots.
Also the Dominators in Supergirl and the Legion of Super-Heroes mentioned it.
ReccaSquirrel
12-18-2006, 05:52 PM
Also the Dominators in Supergirl and the Legion of Super-Heroes mentioned it.
I, unfortunately, haven't been collected that except in Trade Paperback.
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