If Bobby did go gay, who would he go for? [Archive]

Siddon

12-04-2006, 07:24 PM

Iceman's sexuality has always been a thing of <ahem> controversy if he were to expand on this who would you like to see him with?

Havok - Alex and Bobby have fought over the same women for a long time, maybe its not the women they are after.

Northstar - Zombie Northstar be damned let the twinks fly as Northstars crush finally come around.

Cloud - A girl then a boy and an Iceman lover to boot.

Cannonball - They are acting very friendly recently.

Beast - He came out a few years ago.... sorta

rilokyle

12-04-2006, 09:03 PM

Oooooh, Havok and Iceman would be hot together!!! But Alex is spoken for by my green-haired goddess.

I always liked the idea of Bobby with Jean-Paul. They some...... interesting chemistry during Austen's run.

Frodo-X

12-04-2006, 09:06 PM

The question isn't who he'd go gay for, but what he'd go gay for?

The answer: A Klondike Bar.

Christopher O

12-04-2006, 09:33 PM

Definitely Northstar. In those initial Chuck Austen issues with Sean Phillips (you know, the good ones), they had great chemistry. I'd love to see it happen.

mattbib

12-04-2006, 10:02 PM

On the one hand, I hate the idea that Bobby and Northstar would be paired almost by default. Why couldn't either just meet someone outside of the "industry"?

On the other hand, in the real world people fall for co-workers and the such all the time, so it's acceptable to me. Plus their personalities and attitudes would make for an interesting relationship dynamic.

Nyssane

12-04-2006, 10:13 PM

Ruckus. He's a screamer.

Either that, or a new character. Because him ending up with Northstar would be too entirely cliche.

Frodo-X

12-04-2006, 10:19 PM

Because him ending up with Northstar would be too entirely cliche.

*cough* Black Panther and Storm *cough*

Metallurgique

12-04-2006, 10:27 PM

I suppose, but T'Challa and Storm go way back. He was in her backstory from the earliest days of the "new" X-men back in the 70's.

How about Bobby with Living Lightning? He's gay too, y'know, and hasn't been around in ages - though he was around in Civil War and made a cameo in the GLA series in 2005. Miguel's openly gay and much more down-to-earth than Jean Paul. A guy comprised of Electrical force might not be too good for a guy with water/ice powers though.

Beast

12-04-2006, 10:32 PM

Mystique. Best of both worlds. Bobby can indulge his closet man love, while keeping it secret because he has a hot lady on his arm outside the bedroom. Of course, that's what we have building in canon now... ;) :D

TimGunn

12-04-2006, 10:46 PM

Gender bending w/ Mystique is exactly how they are side-stepping the whole issue in Runaways.

I'd love to see Iceman and the Human Torch, steamy. Or how about a threesome w/ the Ambiguously Gay Duo?

I wonder if it would be weird to go to bed w/ Angel? All those feathers.

How about Mark Milton from Supreme Power? I always had a crush on him.

For sure not Beast, the gays don't need to be linked any more w/ beastiality

The Grand Beef

12-04-2006, 11:13 PM

If it were to happen, I wouldn't mind seeing Bobby & Cannonball. I think they'd make a tender sweet couple.

Or, a new character, a human perhaps.

edit - Who is Cloud? I tried to wikipedia it, but nothing came up.

~Beefy!

Mitsaso

12-04-2006, 11:43 PM

I vote for Alex, because I like the idea of Bobby sleeping with "the enemy":D
Then again, Living Lightning would be a perfect hot latino beefcake present for the Popsicle! And, since I said "hot", Johhny Storm would make an interesting boyfriend too!

I also had this "vibe" between Bobby and Spiderman when watching "Amazing Friends":p

Mr. Jip

12-05-2006, 12:31 AM

Who's TOP?

Bobby or Msr. Beaubier..? :p :evilsmile :cool:

Zombienorthstar

12-05-2006, 03:53 AM

Northstar - Zombie Northstar be damned let the twinks fly as Northstars crush finally come around.

Your not talking about me right?

Im a big Jean Paul/Bobby booster.

Tilt

12-05-2006, 05:05 AM

Not Alex..he'd leave Bobby in the end for Lorna...poor Bobby.

Madison Carter

12-05-2006, 05:14 AM

The Blob. Go figure.

The Fury

12-05-2006, 05:30 AM

edit - Who is Cloud? I tried to wikipedia it, but nothing came up.

~Beefy!
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If he did turn gay (which is impossible) I think the best choice would be someone not in the X-men.

Jack Flash

12-05-2006, 06:36 AM

I'd like to see Bobby hook up with Miguel (living Lightning). He's totally a west coast boy at heart anyway. Too bad that there isn't a West Coast Avengers. I'd love to see them both in the spotlight. Bobby always worked better for me out of the shadow of the other 4. OZT is a fave of mine because we get to see Bobby grow.

Christopher O

12-05-2006, 07:12 AM

Who's TOP?

Bobby or Msr. Beaubier..? :p :evilsmile :cool:
JP is a total power bottom, so Bobby's top by default. ;)

Faded

12-05-2006, 08:24 AM

I don't care if its cliché, but I think Northstar and Iceman make an interesting couple. I'm totally waiting for it Carey!!! ;)

Besides, Mystique totally deserves it.

Christopher O

12-05-2006, 08:29 AM

I don't care if its cliché, but I think Northstar and Iceman make an interesting couple. I'm totally waiting for it Carey!!! ;)

As long as it's well-written, I don't see why it would be a problem.

Madrox84

12-05-2006, 09:19 AM

Hmm i'd like to see Iceman and Northstar, i don't care if it's cliche. They had good chemistry in the early Austen issues. If it were written well i think that Bobby/JP would be a good pairing.

I'd also quite like to see Iceman and Cannonball, that would be hot.

fishtaco

12-05-2006, 04:45 PM

Ted Haggard or Ken Mehlman...

...sorry.

No, he really wouldn't. I've never even really seen Iceman as gay, although I can see why others think so.

blinkinrogue

12-05-2006, 05:03 PM

shatterstar and bobby, slice'n ice

jcp011c

12-05-2006, 05:23 PM

Someone could write me into a comic book and make him go for me! :D

Seriously, I love the idea of a Northstar/Iceman pairing, although I do agree with the whole "outside of the industry" comment.

The Fury

12-06-2006, 02:15 AM

Why is it always Northstar and Iceman?

If Iceman did then people want to only 2 openly gay (or one gay one bi depending) characters that Marvel have and pair them up?

Iceman and Angel might be a better choice, you know, turning friendship into loving.

Christopher O

12-06-2006, 09:22 AM

If Iceman did then people want to only 2 openly gay (or one gay one bi depending) characters that Marvel have and pair them up?

That's a whole lot better than the two being perennially single, which they are. Don't get me wrong, I don't think all characters should be in relationships. Take Storm for instance, I prefer her flying solo, but Northstar NEVER gets the love, and it's time he did. Besides, it's not like these two characters are completely unconnected. They're colleagues. They have history. I don't see the problem--well, aside from the whole Bobby gay/not gay situation.

witchboy

12-06-2006, 05:31 PM

I think the gay-Iceman fans root for Norhtstar because there is virtually no other gay men to pair him up with .
I 'm a little iffy on my understanding of Cloud's gender , so I can't say much here . Could be interesting , but it would feel like a cheat , as if tptb were unwilling to deal with a real gay relationship and copped out with a little gender bending .The sort of thing Star Trek Next Generation did in the 80's . We 've advanced beyond that I hope.
I don't even know if Bobby's even met Living Lightning , or if LL has ever been or will be in an X-Book . They move in different circles .
Hulkling and Wiccan are too young for Bobby and already committed to each other .
Shatterstar is the only other gay X-man I can think of , and he's never interacted with Bobby much , and he already has a longstanding love for Rictor waitng to resolved . I t's hard to work up much intrest over Shatterstar as a love intrest for Bobby when the two are virtual strangers.
Other characters like Sam , Warren , Hank , etc are also presumably straight so for them to hook up with Bobby would require two different previously presumed straight characters to come out . Northstar on the other hand , is openly gay , has a friendship with Bobby and has previously expressed an intrest., and has/is recently been appearing in the same books togather.
It's not like pairing up hetero characters with near infinite choices . If Bobby did come out there are very few options in the story for a love intrest outside of Northstar.
And Bobby's the top , of course .

Metallurgique

12-06-2006, 05:57 PM

Mr. Jip

12-12-2006, 01:29 AM

JP is a total power bottom, so Bobby's top by default. ;)

Yeah... bobby is SUCH a SUBMISSIVE TOP
:eek:
;)
:rolleyes:

Agentum

12-12-2006, 02:01 AM

I suppose, but T'Challa and Storm go way back. He was in her backstory from the earliest days of the "new" X-men back in the 70's.

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What story was that from the 70s? or do you mean some kind of modern retcon?
I have never seen that connection.

Omega Alpha

12-12-2006, 07:48 AM

Warren's definitely not Gay. Warren being my favorite of the O5 and the concept of a hot guy with wings notwithstanding.

If Warren had been gay, it's possible that much suffering might've been avoided. During X-factor's original run it was heavily implied that Cameron Hodge's real motivation for all his hatred towards mutants was an unrequited crush on Warren that he had tried to articulate and failed.

Yep, the only one of the 05 who is gay is Bobby. The other three have been consistently shown as to be 100% straight. Scott actually has been shown as liking women even too much, and Emma has said that she knows that Henry has never shown any sexual interest in a male in his life.

Metallurgique

12-12-2006, 11:28 AM

What story was that from the 70s?

Actually, the early 80's. The story about T'challa and Ororo's past was never defined, but it was directly stated in UXM Annual #5 that there had been an intimate relationship between the two.

Rob on the Job

12-12-2006, 11:38 AM

This thread is backwards.

If you want a speculative "What If" thread, it should be "What If Bobby Did Go Straight ... ?"

The Mirrorball Man

12-12-2006, 11:42 AM

If you want a speculative "What If" thread, it should be "What If Bobby Did Go Straight ... ?"

He'd go straight to a gay club, right?

ProfeZZor X

12-12-2006, 02:11 PM

This thread is about as valuable as belly button lint... :rolleyes:

Mitsaso

12-12-2006, 02:17 PM

I can't wait for the next X-crossover so that Carey's X-Men and X-Factor get to meet.

Maybe Bobby and Rictor have a chance together.:p

Rob on the Job

12-12-2006, 02:18 PM

He'd go straight to a gay club, right?

Nice one, MM.

Or, if Bobby did go straight, hell would freeze over.

Pro

12-12-2006, 02:27 PM

Or, if Bobby did go straight, hell would freeze over.

Crap guess i'll post my assignment x story after all ...

TimGunn

12-12-2006, 05:21 PM

He should go gay for ...

ME!

Faded

12-12-2006, 09:26 PM

This thread is about as valuable as belly button lint... :rolleyes:

Oh, stop hating. :rolleyes:

Christopher O

12-12-2006, 09:36 PM

This thread is about as valuable as belly button lint... :rolleyes:
Why? Because you don't agree with it? Get over it, dude.

Nstar83

12-12-2006, 09:55 PM

I'm starting to wonder if the sexuality an love life of a fictional character is worth replying to in a thread let alone starting.I am more concerned in developing relationships as a gay male my self then living my romantic life thru a comic.Final vote thou keep him straight, I thought it over an the amount of whining you would get from the steretypical fan boys which is sad in an of its self would be to frustrating to marvel.

Dermie

12-12-2006, 10:39 PM

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I don't even know if Bobby's even met Living Lightning , or if LL has ever been or will be in an X-Book . They move in different circles .

They have met, but in the huge group settings of Infinity War and Infinity Crusade--they very likely had little (if any) direct contact, and even if they did Miguel was still in the closet at that point. So a romance with Living Lightning would definately require some set up.

Another gay mutant out there is Flatman from the Great Lakes Champions...but Bobby's had less contact with him than he has with Miguel. The new Swordsman, Andreas Strucker, is bisexual...but although he and Bobby have probably had contact, I don't think Bobby will be hopping into bed with a former foe anytime soon.

Although I wouldn't want to see it as an ongoing relationship, it would make a cute one-issue story to see a brief fling between Iceman and Blizzard of the T-Bolts.

Faded

12-12-2006, 10:48 PM

Swordsman is bi?

Dermie

12-12-2006, 11:04 PM

I don't know if it has been directly stated in any of the comics, but Fabian has hinted at it a number of times, in the books and on message boards. A few issues back we met the new Whiplash and Backlash who were apparently an S&M couple that Andreas used to be involved with, and in a thread on a T-Bolts board a while back discussing how Andreas was raped by the Purple Man, Fabian said that he doubted that the male/male sex was too disturbing to Andreas, etc.

Nyssane

12-12-2006, 11:58 PM

Although I wouldn't want to see it as an ongoing relationship, it would make a cute one-issue story to see a brief fling between Iceman and Blizzard of the T-Bolts.

Yay, I love you simply because you share the IcemanxBlizzard idea. :) Flatman would be awesome, too.

I wonder if Andreas and Shinobi Shaw ever hooked up. Maybe Whiplash is really Shinobi in disguise. That'd be hot.

Faded

12-13-2006, 12:04 AM

Oooh intersting. I haven't been keeping up with T-Bolts as much as I'd like to.

Sam T.

12-13-2006, 12:24 AM

There is no way Iceman is gay! He has had many women in his life.

Beast

12-13-2006, 12:28 AM

There is no way Iceman is gay! He has had many women in his life.
Sweetie, that's what we call beards in the real world. Bobby's in the closet. :D

Sam T.

12-13-2006, 12:34 AM

Sweetie, that's what we call beards in the real world. Bobby's in the closet. :D

Sweetie?? Maybe in that Ultimate universe he is...but not in the good old 616!

Beast

12-13-2006, 12:42 AM

No, that's Colossus. He's the fine gay boy in the Ultimate Universe. :)

Sam T.

12-13-2006, 12:43 AM

What issues has it been hinted at that he is gay?

Beast

12-13-2006, 12:48 AM

What issues has it been hinted at that he is gay?
Iceman or Colossus?

Sam T.

12-13-2006, 12:49 AM

i'm asking about Iceman...

Nyssane

12-13-2006, 08:46 AM

i'm asking about Iceman...

Iceman let Northstar give him a HJ in Austen's run.

Sam T.

12-13-2006, 01:47 PM

What?!? Thats crazy!!

drwho

12-13-2006, 02:00 PM

Iceman let Northstar give him a HJ in Austen's run.

That wouldnt be fun as fast as he moves you would be lucky to last a second.

Omega Alpha

12-13-2006, 02:10 PM

i'm asking about Iceman...

See old Defenders issues, his relationship with a shape-shifter who didn't now whether was man or woman, or what happened to him after Emma Frost took over his body; most notably X-men #46 (i think), the one in which he has a talk with Jean in which is heavily implied he's gay, and Uncanny #331. Also, there's Austen's run, but i don't know if that should count.

Agentum

12-13-2006, 02:13 PM

Actually, the early 80's. The story about T'challa and Ororo's past was never defined, but it was directly stated in UXM Annual #5 that there had been an intimate relationship between the two.

ah, ok, i have probably missed that one.
So the current marrige is not totally out of the blue then as i thought it was.

Dermie

12-13-2006, 09:01 PM

Yay, I love you simply because you share the IcemanxBlizzard idea. :)

Its one of those things that would be just too perfect to pass up. Now we just need Fabian to bring Blizzard out of the closet...

Flatman would be awesome, too.

It would be an odd pairing, but it would be nice to see Flatman given something to do.

I wonder if Andreas and Shinobi Shaw ever hooked up.

Wouldn't surprise me--I'm sure those two have had some dealings along the way.
Btw, when was it established that Shinobi is bisexual? I've heard references to it before, but I've never read anything with the character outside of the New Warriors/X-Force crossover.

The M.E.

12-13-2006, 09:27 PM

Iceman let Northstar give him a HJ in Austen's run.

LOL, too funny Nyssane. I'm picturing a Ben Affleck and Eric Cartmen/Jennifer Lopez scene from South Park for some reason.

Love this thread guys. I'd have to say that seeing Iceman realize he really did have feelings for Northstar would be awesome. But I LOVE Iceman and Cannonball together. That would rock if Carey wrote it out that way.

Sam T.

12-13-2006, 09:29 PM

There is no way I'm buying that Iceman is gay!!

Omega Alpha

12-13-2006, 09:36 PM

There is no way I'm buying that Iceman is gay!!

Why don't you just read the issues in which was heavily implied he's gay? I did not think he was until i did read them.

The Mirrorball Man

12-13-2006, 09:37 PM

There is no way I'm buying that Iceman is gay!!

You don't have to buy it: love is free.

Sam T.

12-13-2006, 09:46 PM

You don't have to buy it: love is free.

Yeah I know love is free...

These guys lately do not know how to write Iceman.

Beast

12-13-2006, 09:58 PM

Yeah I know love is free...

These guys lately do not know how to write Iceman.
Yeah, they keep trying to force writing him as a straight boy... when the character is fabulously gay. :D

The Mirrorball Man

12-14-2006, 12:21 AM

Yeah I know love is free...

These guys lately do not know how to write Iceman.

If you ask me, people like me who'd want Iceman to come out just want to add something that makes this very bland character stand out. Plus it makes sense.

Sam T.

12-14-2006, 01:35 AM

it seems to be the controversal thing to do these days...make a superhero gay.

The Mirrorball Man

12-14-2006, 02:10 AM

it seems to be the controversal thing to do these days...make a superhero gay.

Why would that be controversial?

eggie

12-14-2006, 06:53 AM

Based on what I've heard about the newest issue of X-Factor I would have to say Rictor.

Omega Alpha

12-14-2006, 08:11 AM

it seems to be the controversal thing to do these days...make a superhero gay.

What's so controversial about it? Plus, the hints about Iceman's homossexuality are not from today, they come from decades ago. Carey himself said he could see Iceman in a homossexual relationship, and i think it was Frank Tieri who said Bobby should come out of the closet yet.

Hi-Fi

12-14-2006, 08:12 AM

I think Bobby just got "saved" by Rictor. No way Marvel will out two of their X-Men characters in a roll.

Omega Alpha

12-14-2006, 08:16 AM

I think Bobby just got "saved" by Rictor. No way Marvel will out two of their X-Men characters in a roll.

I don't think Carey is interested in out Bobby now, although i think he will throw some hints. The Bobby/Mystique seems one of them.

Hi-Fi

12-14-2006, 08:18 AM

I don't think Carey is interested in out Bobby now, although i think he will throw some hints. The Bobby/Mystique seems one of them.

Yeah, definetly. I think that Carey will write him as straight, but dating Mystique makes you wonder...

twilight

12-14-2006, 08:21 AM

He would go gay for Reeeeeccccctooooorrrrrrrrrr.

ProfeZZor X

12-14-2006, 08:41 AM

You guys are killing me with this "who should he be with" talk.

1) Bobby made it clear to Northstar that he was straight. Even Jean-Paul acknowledged that. Then he tried to kill him later on.

2) Bobby's never even met Rictor/Anal-hole :p ... So why all of a sudden would they hit it off as lovers?

3) All of the other characters mentioned, he's had a "hetrosexual" conflict of interest with (Alex/Lorna triangle, Cloud's androgeny, Cannonball?... please :rolleyes:)

You guys are over-fantasizing about him being with a shapeshifter. And in all of the cases of him interacting with Mystique, past or present, has she once brought up anything relating to his sexuality. In fact, the last issue clearly shows her flirting with him in her female form.

twilight

12-14-2006, 08:42 AM

2) Bobby's never even met Rictor... So why all of a sudden would they hit it off as lovers?

I read a story where it happened on www.GayslashXmenz.com which makes it canon.

Beast

12-14-2006, 08:44 AM

That JonoGuy

12-14-2006, 08:53 AM

You guys are killing me with this "who should he be with" talk.

1) Bobby made it clear to Northstar that he was straight. Even Jean-Paul acknowledged that. Then he tried to kill him later on.

Yes, because a closeted gay person would NEVER lie about being straight. :rolleyes:

2) Bobby's never even met Rictor/Anal-hole :p ... So why all of a sudden would they hit it off as lovers?

Just because two people haven't met doesn't mean that they wouldn't be a good match.

3) All of the other characters mentioned, he's had a "hetrosexual" conflict of interest with (Alex/Lorna triangle, Cloud's androgeny, Cannonball?... please :rolleyes:)

I'm not even sure what that means.

ProfeZZor X

12-14-2006, 08:59 AM

The big question remains.... why are you so threatened by the idea?

No, I don't feel threatened... In fact, this message here is only the third time I've posted in this thread. So it just goes to show that I can care less, about this topic anymore. Everyone is going to believe whatever they want, so there's no point in convincing them otherwise.

Everyone else posted their opinions, and so have I. I'm not being defensive about it, just stating the facts that are presented in past & present books.

ProfeZZor X

12-14-2006, 09:15 AM

Just because two people haven't met doesn't mean that they wouldn't be a good match.

So does that mean to say if John Merrick aka The Elephant Man were still alive today, and you two hit it off, you'd be with him?

That JonoGuy

12-14-2006, 09:24 AM

So does that mean to say if John Merrick aka The Elephant Man were still alive today, and you two hit it off, you'd be with him?

Well, since you already say we hit if off, then yeah. I would assume so.

Metallurgique

12-14-2006, 09:30 AM

Point A: Bobby's known Rictor since Rictor debuted waaay back in X-factor in the 80's. In fact, Rictor really looked up to Bobby at that time. I don't think there was any implication back then that Rictor or Bobby were gay, the two characters didn't interact enough and at that time Shooter had banned Gay characters from the MU, though Bill Mantlo tried his best to imply that Northstar was Gay.

it seems to be the controversal thing to do these days...make a superhero gay.

Point B: Why is it controversial? I can understand why it was controversial back when Northstar came out back in 1992, but that was almost 15 years ago and times have changed.

The Marvel Universe should reflect our own universe and here there are plenty of Gay people - probably a few whom you know personally. If the MU didn't reflect the actual universe in some basic ways, it wouldn't seem very interesting, would it?

I don't see why Bobby being gay is really all that strange an idea or all that hard to accept. But I can see that it's obviously hard for Bobby to accept and in that way Bobby's constant hints are a very accurate reflection of what it's like for somebody who's just discovering who they really are, maybe even after a long time of pretending to be somebody who they want to be, or whom society tells them they should be. Bobby's always tried to fit in, always been a hanger-on, now he's really coming out of his shell and trying to find his own way.

I don't think it's that the writers these days don't know how to write the character, I just think the character is developing to the full extent, which he never did back in the old days.