One Piece Manga/Anime Discussion Fun Thread! [Archive]

Aubergine~!

08-18-2004, 02:24 AM

Well, we've got a Naruto one.

There be spoilers, of course.

First off, Usopp just jumped a couple of badass ranks up. I'd forgotten that he had all those dials. Don't think he's leaving though, at least I hope not.

Second order of business is making a list of the subplots. There are so many comings and goings that I'm going to try and make a list.

So, Ace has joined up with Baki and Albelda.

Major Smoker's off doing his own thang.

The Ice-dude is biking towards Water 7. They're probably going to end up meeting again.

Blackbeard's trying to become one of the 7 gods.

Shanks and Whitebeard are up to something.

That "Dragon" guy who stopped Smoker's capturing Luffy is up to something.

Robin's whole archeaological search.

Donquixote Doflamingo, or whatever that guy's name is, he's the dude who killed the springy guy, has some whole movement thing going.

Mihawk is off somewhere being a sexy bastard.

How many subplots am I missing? And what are we going to do if Shounen Jump skips another week?!?

Daemon

08-18-2004, 06:35 AM

Well, we've got a Naruto one.

There be spoilers, of course.

First off, Usopp just jumped a couple of badass ranks up. I'd forgotten that he had all those dials. Don't think he's leaving though, at least I hope not.

Like I told Jack the other day, I think Luffy's taking his lumps to convince Ussop that he's not useless.

Second order of business is making a list of the subplots. There are so many comings and goings that I'm going to try and make a list.

So, Ace has joined up with Baki and Albelda.

When did this happen and how did I miss it?

Major Smoker's off doing his own thang.

The Ice-dude is biking towards Water 7. They're probably going to end up meeting again.

Blackbeard's trying to become one of the 7 gods.

Are we sure of that? Cause I thought he was trying to get away from Ace and find himself a good opponent

Shanks and Whitebeard are up to something.

That "Dragon" guy who stopped Smoker's capturing Luffy is up to something.

Robin's whole archeaological search.

Donquixote Doflamingo, or whatever that guy's name is, he's the dude who killed the springy guy, has some whole movement thing going.

Mihawk is off somewhere being a sexy bastard.

How many subplots am I missing? And what are we going to do if Shounen Jump skips another week?!?

Well me and Jack are already burning down various cities on a weekly basis.

I've got Boston cause of no Betrothed updates and Philidelphia if Null takes too long with their scanlation

Jack is Torching London, I think, cause no new Cherub.

You're more than welcome to pick any city, Save NYC and whereever Jack lives, if Shounen ever skips a week.

Good times, good times.

Jack

08-18-2004, 09:28 AM

Dragon is obviously one of the 7 Gods, probably the most powerful one. And yeah, Blackbeard offered his services as one of them, though we don't know if he'll be accepted.

Sword chick is hunting down swords/Zoro.

Currently we've got the adventures of one of the priests in the title pages.

Coby and Helmeppo are off training to be badass.

There's some mystery about Luffy's grandfather, who might be Gold D. Roger.

The Black Jail woman is hunting Luffy.

We don't know what's up with Bibi/Vivi...

Melchior

08-18-2004, 09:39 AM

And my last OP manga was around chapter 220 or so (Sky Piea ark, Luffy just rang the bell, I think). *Sigh*
I really need to catch up...

Daemon

08-18-2004, 10:53 AM

And my last OP manga was around chapter 220 or so (Sky Piea ark, Luffy just rang the bell, I think). *Sigh*
I really need to catch up...

Just looking at my Sig should point out just how far behind you are.

run boy and catch up so that you to can be involved in this thread as more than a spectator.

Melchior

08-18-2004, 12:37 PM

Just looking at my Sig should point out just how far behind you are.

run boy and catch up so that you to can be involved in this thread as more than a spectator.

Now that I look.... 296. Not nearly as far back as I thought. By the way, I did see your sig. I was upset since I have lost my old source for OP, and thought I had a lot more to catch up. Now I just have to finagle those new chapters into my hard drive.

As for the "boy" bit.... my inner otaku rebels against that phrase.

*Performs special Gainax Summons: Summon Daicon Schoolgirl*

Get 'im.

*Daicon Schoolgirl uses Missle-laden back-pack, before leaving to deliver a glass of water.*

EDIT: And now I'm up through 329 and chapter 331. Amazing what some motivation can do. On a serious note, thank you.

Daemon

08-18-2004, 06:20 PM

Now that I look.... 296. Not nearly as far back as I thought. By the way, I did see your sig. I was upset since I have lost my old source for OP, and thought I had a lot more to catch up. Now I just have to finagle those new chapters into my hard drive.

As for the "boy" bit.... my inner otaku rebels against that phrase.

*Performs special Gainax Summons: Summon Daicon Schoolgirl*

Get 'im.

*Daicon Schoolgirl uses Missle-laden back-pack, before leaving to deliver a glass of water.*

EDIT: And now I'm up through 329 and chapter 331. Amazing what some motivation can do. On a serious note, thank you.

Thats not very nice.

sides, i doubt a boy like you could have anything in your arsenal to damage one as great as I. :p

Melchior

08-19-2004, 08:36 AM

One Daicon Schoolgirl Missile Attack took out Gamara, Godzilla, the Enterprise (Star Trek), a Klingon Battlecruiser, a Star Destroyer, at least one War of the Worlds Martian flying ship (from the movie), King Ghidora, at least one Yamato (as in the old classic series), and a few that I'm forgetting off the top of my head.

In other words, yeah, she has plenty of power. Just be glad I didn't pull out the one two years down the road. The Daicon Bunny-girl would be quite appropriate for the Jaw Squad.

(On a side note, go find a copy of Daicon III and Daicon IV. They're funny.)

From what I have read....

-I doubt Bibi will be more than a side thread for quite a while. She needs to get her country together, and it is difficult to travel through the Grand Line.

-Who went and got Nico in the last few chapters? Possibilities include Iceberg, or one of her past acquaintences that is not dead.

-Can it be assumed that most of the higher guys probably have a devil fruit or a good counter to it? I mean, I doubt Shanks has one, but possibly Whitebeard, and almost certainly Dragon....

-Way out there thought. Davy Jones ate the Devil Fruit controlling the ocean, and that is why he is the "God of the Pirates". Of course, that would mean he's the entire ocean now. Just a thought for down the road.

Daemon

08-19-2004, 03:04 PM

Melchior

08-19-2004, 03:54 PM

"Although ISTR that the mangaka said he would bring back someone from the past to replace the crew member thats supposed to die." Daemon

Well, in that case.... yeah, Bibi is the only one that makes much sense. Unless it is that kid from the very beginning. But he was a navigator....

As for Daicon (this spelling is correct)? Daicon III occured in 1981, Daicon IV occured in 1983, if memory serves. There. Plenty of information to find out about it. ;)

Side note: the III Girl took all those targets out simultaneously, after catching missiles and slicing a kaiju apart. Even your supposed power of jaw will be in danger of her.

Aubergine~!

08-19-2004, 05:28 PM

In other words, yeah, she has plenty of power. Just be glad I didn't pull out the one two years down the road. The Daicon Bunny-girl would be quite appropriate for the Jaw Squad.

The Jaw Squad does not loose to bunny girls. Besides, Dae's not in the Jaw Squad, at least, according to Jack.

-I doubt Bibi will be more than a side thread for quite a while. She needs to get her country together, and it is difficult to travel through the Grand Line.

Agree.

-Who went and got Nico in the last few chapters? Possibilities include Iceberg, or one of her past acquaintences that is not dead.

Got? Didn't she go after someone?

-Can it be assumed that most of the higher guys probably have a devil fruit or a good counter to it? I mean, I doubt Shanks has one, but possibly Whitebeard, and almost certainly Dragon....

I really want to see Zoro get a seastone sword.

Daemon

08-19-2004, 05:45 PM

The Jaw Squad does not loose to bunny girls. Besides, Dae's not in the Jaw Squad, at least, according to Jack.

of course I'm not in the squad.

I'm above your squad as I'm the High Priest.

so nyah! :p

Melchior

08-19-2004, 09:47 PM

The Jaw Squad does not loose to bunny girls. Besides, Dae's not in the Jaw Squad, at least, according to Jack.

This is more like THE bunny girl, capable of taking on every Godzilla-verse Kaiju in a brawl and winning (by beating them with her bare hands). Not counting what she did to Darth Vader in a lightsaber duel, or those poor Zeon suits, or that Voltron-esque giant robot....

Got? Didn't she go after someone?

From what I saw, the person in the mask gave a contact/recognition code. Robin and it met up at the designated area and were going somewhere when the chef caught sight of them. He then promptly lost sight of them.

I really want to see Zoro get a seastone sword.

It would be kinda nice, but then you run into a couple problems. One is durability. The second is that it would make Luffy a little less meaningfull, since he is their number one weapon against Devil Fruit Powers.

Pikachu

08-20-2004, 11:32 PM

If anyone gets too stumped...I'll lend a helping hand... but other than that, my lips are cealed.

Oh, and on another note, I highly recommend importing the ONE PIECE motion picture. It is a blast!

Pika!

Jack

08-25-2004, 05:22 AM

Yes well stuff like that I flick with my pinkies...thats mostly cause I channel the might of the Jaw Pantheon. Thanks Mostly to me being their high priest and all.

So this Daikon Girl thing?

Anime/Manga/Game?

Although ISTR that the mangaka said he would bring back someone from the past to replace the crew member thats supposed to die.

So unless its Coby, I really can't think of anyone else except for Vivi.
Well, if that's true there are actually a bunch of people it could be.

Firstly, there's Coby who has been training to become badass (happens at the end of his title page subplot, but you later see him all muscular and taller at the end of the Jango one as well).

Secondly there's Vivi, of course.

But there are also a number of other ones as well.

Major Smoker has shown sympathy with the Straw Hat pirates and a dislike of the rest of the Marines. He's unlikely but still possible.

Ging/Jin from the Sanji arc promised to meet up with Sanji in Grand Line. He's a strong fighter as well.

Mr. 2 Bon Clay is another possibility with a useful ability and fun personality, and has had the almighty "friend" declaration. He might be dead though.

There's Monbran Cricket from the Sky Island arc who was also strong, though his character arc is done so he's a long shot.

It could be Albeda, who is in love with Luffy for some reason.

Possibly Ace, though that would no doubt be temporary (I understand that in some anime filler Ace joins the crew as well).

And any number of people I might be forgetting.

Re: Seastone's durability, it's a metal so a sword made of it would be feasible.

Daemon

08-25-2004, 09:11 AM

Well, if that's true there are actually a bunch of people it could be.

Firstly, there's Coby who has been training to become badass (happens at the end of his title page subplot, but you later see him all muscular and taller at the end of the Jango one as well).

Yeah in the anime they actually animated the whole thing as a filler ep.

Copy ends up getting training from the Grand Admiral himself and becomes pretty badass. But it'll be awhile before he becomes good enough to join the straw hat pirates.

Secondly there's Vivi, of course.

But there are also a number of other ones as well.

Major Smoker has shown sympathy with the Straw Hat pirates and a dislike of the rest of the Marines. He's unlikely but still possible.

Ging/Jin from the Sanji arc promised to meet up with Sanji in Grand Line. He's a strong fighter as well.

Was that the ape looking cook that was always badmouthing Sanji but in actuallity really respected him?

Mr. 2 Bon Clay is another possibility with a useful ability and fun personality, and has had the almighty "friend" declaration. He might be dead though.

Yeah completly forgot about him and he'd definetly be cool.

There's Monbran Cricket from the Sky Island arc who was also strong, though his character arc is done so he's a long shot.

Who is this again? Is he the Skyknight, or the Descendant of the tribal leader?

It could be Albeda, who is in love with Luffy for some reason.

At least in the anime she's in love with Luffy cause he was the first man to knock her on her ass....

Possibly Ace, though that would no doubt be temporary (I understand that in some anime filler Ace joins the crew as well).

And any number of people I might be forgetting.

Re: Seastone's durability, it's a metal so a sword made of it would be feasible.

yeah I think thats about it also.

Aubergine~!

08-31-2004, 01:36 AM

Just read 334, great chapter.

And things are a-happenin.

The Real Nemo

08-31-2004, 10:20 AM

I have a question, what episode of the anime does the Zoro vs. Mihawk battle take place in?

Slayven

08-31-2004, 05:54 PM

Epsiode 25 i think

Jack

09-01-2004, 12:37 PM

Ging is the pirate whom Sanji fed who later turned against his captain, who was the armoured guy. He promised Sanji that they'd meet in Grand Line someday.

Monbran is the "diamond headed mister". The descendant of the saviour of Cyandia who was executed wrongly. He's a long shot, but still possible.

Yeah, Albeda is in love with Luffy for that reason in the manga, I was just saying that it's a pretty dumb reason.

I doubt anyone from Sky Island will join up except maybe that one guy in the title pages at the moment. It's a shame, since the girl was a musician and we know how much Luffy wants a musician.

It seems like Robin is the most likely suspect in the attack on Iceberg. She's a former assassin, she's capable of attacking from behind locked doors and someone gave her a mysterious codeword. Also the person who gave that codeword was wearing exactly the same type of mask as was found in Iceberg's room.

That could of course be deliberately misleading us.

I've been skimming through OP recently making these Maximum Jaw avatars and it really amazes me that people can think it's just light hearted fun. I read the Chopper arc and I was actually crying, the emotion was so strong and so clearly expressed in the art. And I never cry. You can really feel the emotion in every line, and I'm not exaggerating.

Daemon

09-01-2004, 02:26 PM

I've been skimming through OP recently making these Maximum Jaw avatars and it really amazes me that people can think it's just light hearted fun. I read the Chopper arc and I was actually crying, the emotion was so strong and so clearly expressed in the art. And I never cry. You can really feel the emotion in every line, and I'm not exaggerating.

You thought it was bad just reading it?

It was much worse seeing it animated.

I was bawling nearly throughout that entire arc.

Pikachu

09-06-2004, 03:07 PM

Ah-ha! I found you. So Jack, you are the one making these Avatars! Sweet. Can I get a few from you too? I love them so far. I love your Luffy and Zorro ones. Robin is my fave though.

Pika!

Jack

09-07-2004, 02:31 AM

Ah-ha! I found you. So Jack, you are the one making these Avatars! Sweet. Can I get a few from you too? I love them so far. I love your Luffy and Zorro ones. Robin is my fave though.

Pika!A Robin one? Sure, I can do that when I get home. The plan is to do one for every crewmember after all :D

Pikachu

09-08-2004, 08:45 PM

Yeah, Niko Robbin. She is kick-ass. It's always hard to choose, because everyone out of the ONE PIECE line up is so amazing. The characters are too cool, anyway, I thank you much good sir! Actually, I would love to get the Zorro and Luffy ones from you too. Just so I can use them later on down the road, and switch things up.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/189/1631/640/One%20Piece%20volume%2033.jpg

Pika!

Daemon

09-09-2004, 07:45 AM

Righto,

Jack says go ahead and just rightclick our avs to save them.

he's sorta temp banned atm for a bad joke.

Pikachu

09-09-2004, 02:25 PM

Will do, thanks!

And while we are on the topic of One Piece, has anybody else seen the movies?

Pika!

Pikachu

09-19-2004, 10:45 PM

Just so you all know, the new issu you Animerica has a cover piece devoted to ONE PIECE. Inside is news on Toei Animation and 4Kids licensing distribution of the series. Sadly, there has been no announcement for an Unedited release of the series, but lets keep our fingers crossed!

Pika!

Legato

09-20-2004, 12:40 PM

Just read 334, great chapter.

And things are a-happenin.

Question. What website did you get the manga from?

SuperSaiyaMan12

09-20-2004, 12:41 PM

I officially hate the dub! Even though it was the first episode, I didn't picture Luffy sounding like a Girl! Can anyone give me a link(zip or regular download, no bitorrent) for Japanese sub One Piece Episodes?

Aubergine~!

09-21-2004, 02:43 AM

Question. What website did you get the manga from?

Check your pms.

And I've just read 337, and those shipwrights are badass.

Inkthinker

09-21-2004, 05:12 AM

I just watched the first ep from 4Kids that aired on TV... not too pleased. The voices... meh to bleah. I liked the animation quality well enough, though... how heavily chopped is it? I can tell they messed with some of it... and "Zolo"?!? C'mon, "Zoro" is supposed to connect him in your mind subconciously with "Zorro", another bad-ass swordsman of legend! At least, that's always how I thought of it... And even if that was never the intention, "Zoro" sounds better anyhow. Considering that they slapped the "Shonen Jump" label on the title, you'd think they'd at least co-ordinate their names.

For that matter, since the manga in Shonen Jump USA is, so far as I know, unedited, what retard decided that the anime should be chopped? Doesn't that just make the re-editing so much more obvious? CRAZINESS!!

Daemon

09-21-2004, 07:37 AM

...because apparently OP looks kid friendly on the surface. However once you go past the surface OP is quite violent and not suitable for the fragile minds of america's youth. :rolleyes:

although I figure the name change (thank gawd I didn't watch it) is probably cause Zorro is copyrighted and Zoro is way to similiar. Thats about all I Can think of.

Slayven

09-21-2004, 08:17 AM

wonder what they will do when kids start having nightmares of Luffy's stare

Rabid Trekkie

09-21-2004, 11:45 AM

I saw the first ep on Fox, I don't know if I would even like it uncut. The whole thing seemed to jump around too much to me. Like whoever was filming it was having a seizure. I might thumb through the manga if I get to Barnes and Noble again but I'm still trying to find the first volume of Trigun.

Aubergine~!

10-27-2004, 07:33 AM

Is the Water Seven arc moving slowly, or is it just me?

Inkthinker

10-27-2004, 10:45 AM

The manga is much more linear and certainly a lot less "kiddie-friendly" than the anime as it currently airs on Fox. I highly recommend it, espescially since it's part of the Shonen Jump "cheaper-n-usual" line of tankobon that sell for (I think) $7.99, two dollars below the average price point.

Jack

10-27-2004, 10:57 AM

It is... sort of. The most recent chapter, just out now, heats things up quite a bit though.

Aubergine~!

10-31-2004, 11:12 PM

Anyone want to guess which carpenter ends up joining the Straw Hats?

I'm guessing Paulie, though I'd prefer the dude with the mask who looks like Usopp.

Aubergine~!

11-09-2004, 01:47 AM

Slayven

11-09-2004, 02:45 AM

even more then bon clay?

Jack

11-09-2004, 05:10 AM

Damn, great chapter.

And it looks like Paulie will be the one to join, and it looks like their new ship'll have something to do w/ the thing Iceberg wants hidden.

Plus we get a new evil group.

The door guy got jipped in the devil fruit department though.
Well he's going to be Sanji's opponent*, so he couldn't be too badass.

*He implied he was a chef

I'm fairly sure that he's Bear, one of the Sea Gods though.

Jack

11-09-2004, 01:28 PM

Oooh, 344 is out now as well!

Jack

11-09-2004, 01:38 PM

Oooh, 344 is out now as well!*reads it*

Two words:

Holy Crap

Daemon

11-10-2004, 10:27 AM

even more then bon clay?

I resent that slay, ep 107 of the anime gave me a whole new found respect for Mr. Bon Clay and his Ballet Kenpo.

Jack

11-10-2004, 03:13 PM

Well he's going to be Sanji's opponent*, so he couldn't be too badass.

*He implied he was a chef

I'm fairly sure that he's Bear, one of the Sea Gods though.
He's definitely Sanji's opponent, since he's got superpowerful arms. We'll be seeing super arms vs super legs. Chale be jaw.

Inkthinker

11-10-2004, 04:36 PM

Jack

11-11-2004, 05:10 AM

Interesting side note... in Shonen Jump USA our favorite three-sword style swordsman is now "Zolo". I guess they decided they should have consistency after all... too bad it's consistency with the Fox Box anime.
I am saddened now. I hope they don't change it for the volume releases, but I expect they will.

Ah well.

Jack

11-15-2004, 07:28 AM

The new chapter is out.

We see the faces of Cipher Pol 9, and man was I off on this one. They're all people who were posing as carpenters, plus Iceberg's secretary.

Paulie is now definitely the next Straw Hat. He makes a declaration to fight with Luffy

And Luffy is getting ready to kick some arse.

Aubergine~!

11-17-2004, 12:16 AM

even more then bon clay?

Dude, Bon Clay's power is awesome. You can touch hot chicks and turn into them, body and all.

It was wasted on Munchy.

And *Laughs at Jack's wrongness*.

Too bad Paulie's next though, I would've preferred the dude with the wooden nose.

Daemon

11-18-2004, 01:21 PM

I just realized something.

Since the entire Going Merry is about to throw down with CP9.

That means injured Ussop is gonna take down Franky.

Vindication for the most "useless" fighting character on the crew.

Pikachu

11-19-2004, 09:49 PM

Captain Sarcasm

11-20-2004, 05:10 PM

Since the collected trades of ONE PIECE have changed Zoro's name to Zolo, I have been furious! I called up my friend from VIZ and chewed him out for allowing colleagues of his to create such a stupid continuity error, and to change such a cool name of such a cool character. If I see anyone from VIZ or FOX, I will surely punch them out cold, and tell them to relay the message with everyone they work for. I'm thinking of taking a special trip to VIZ comics, and FOXbox studios and egging everyone's cars.

Speaking of ONE PIECE, I'm anxious for Volume 35 to get here from Japan. I've been itching to read it. I will revel in the warm feelings knowing that Zoro will be Zoro, and nobody else. It will be wonderful again, to read the original text, and not have to feel the stupid insult of the translators and editors deciding to rename Zoro.

My real life name is a famous character of Arthurian Legend, and you don't see me running around changing my name because I'm affraid somebody at Disney will sue me because they think I stole a name of one of their characters that they took from a myth that existed a gajillion years before they existed.

Poo poo on Fox and double poo poo on everyone at VIZ.

Pika!

You know, there is such a thing as 'trademark.' You have a swordsman named 'Zoro,' he's inevitably gonna be compared to the other swordsman named 'Zorro,' currently under lisence to Amblin entertainment, so they had to change it to avoid a lawsuit. If I were to make a comic about a stretchy guy and call him 'Lufy,' or a superhero called 'Battman,' I sure as hell wouldn't get away with it. The R and the L are the same in Japanese anyway, so both versions are correct. If I had to choose between getting One Piece where a character's name has one letter changed in a way that's equally as correct as if it weren't and having Echiro Oda sued so that *nobody* can have One Piece any more, you can guess which one I'll pick.

Would I like it if it could remain Zoro? Yes.

Do I really care that much? No.

Seriously people, it's one letter! It can be translated as either R or L. It's still pronounced the same, if you do it right. This is literally the most insignificant thing you could possibly get worked up about.

EDIT: Also, trademark law doesn't apply to real people's names, otherwise that one national guardsman who changed his name to 'Optimus Prime' would have been sued. And the Arthurian legends have been public domain since 600 AD. They couldn't sue if they wanted to.

Rod G

11-21-2004, 09:26 PM

Is it me or is Django based on Michael Jackson?

Pikachu

11-23-2004, 06:36 PM

Captain Sarcasm makes a good point. But I doubt Oda is anywhere near getting sued. Even for having the same name. It's specifically a Japanese thing to pay homage to other creators, and using a name such as Zorro is no more significant than Miyazaki putting Laputa into his version of "Castle in the Sky". Which we all know borrows from heavy western litterature. The same goes for contemporary American authors who name their characters Ahab, or even Alice when paying homage to the like. Because the character shares a simple (simple!) first name with another of litterature, the fact remains they are seperate and the closest they could come to getting sued is homage with intent. (Which is probably good enough reason for savy lawyers with no respect for the Japanese artist or his creation)

The issue I have is with the corporate entity of VIZ which as a company, does everything in its power to SAVE its own ass and change titles, names, etc., because they are more worried about their assets (pun intended) than the fans who buy the books. Whether or not your theories of "airing on caution" will benefit the readers, or backfire and disenfranchise us entirely, the fact remains that I don't get treated this way as a reader in Japan. This is why I will always buy and read the Japanese version, and that's why I never buy from VIZ. NEVER. Which means, I don't buy from any of the American publishers because I can read Japanese. Which makes me wonder why I am even talking about this, other than the fact that I like art to be respected. And my favorite art form, Manga, is getting kicked around by American corporate politics. Especially my all time favorite title "One Piece". It's sad. Odds are I'll probably be translating for one of these companies anyone, which puts my personal bias into the tumbling wheel of a conundrum. But that's how I feel, just an opinion.

Pika!

Pikachu

11-23-2004, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by: Rod G
Is it me or is Django based on Michael Jackson?

Rod G! Good question. I've never figured out Oda-sensei's design techniques. He seems to have none! Haha. What I mean is, his designs are everything all at once, which lends his characters the ability to lose a sense of historical authenticity, as we can't place them in any set time frame.

I think this in a way allows us to enjoy the story and fantasy of it all the more. Also, by throwing in 'pop-culture' references in his design schemes, you can get a chuckle out of the akward displacement of his utilization of say, Zoro's goggles and tank top vs. Luffy's traditional pesant outfit and Mugiwara -Chinese style straw hat.

I have Oda's ART books, and you can see his amazing rough sketches with his imagination at work. He borrows a lot from Western/Europena fairy tales, and also American pop-culture for sure. The quality we gain from designs such at the one's from the 'Skypiea' storyline lean towards the theology and mythology of Indian cultures, both 'Hindu', 'Aztec', 'Inca' and 'Nattive American'. Then he turns right around with Oakly style sun glasses for Usopu and a moder-retro Cowgirl fashioning for Robin. In a way, Oda-san has mastered the art of 'intertextuality' and not just in the complexity of his masterfully woven storylines, but in his visual disigns as well.

Giving Niko Robin a modern-woman Cowboy costuming brings in this foriegn WESTERN look. This out of place odity can be seen with many of his designs, and makes reading "One Piece" all the more fun.

So what are everyone's favorite Character designs in "One Piece"?

Pika!

Rod G

11-23-2004, 07:24 PM

At the risk of going off-topic . . .

I'm aware that there are One Piece stores in Japan,but I was wondering,why not a One Piece amusement park?

Something to rival Disneyland in the US and Parc Asterix in France,you know.

Jack

12-02-2004, 08:24 PM

*murderizes Null*

That link took me forever to find.

Anyway, a very interesting chapter. The true identity of Franky revealed!

My new prediction: Franky spent the money on building something related to the Pluton, which will turn out to in some way be the Straw Hat's new ship/a means of fixing the Going Merry. So their money will have gone to help them in the end after all. And Paulie will still be the new Straw Hat, despite Franky turning out to be a super carpenter.

Aubergine~!

12-11-2004, 11:19 PM

*murderizes Null*

That link took me forever to find.

View Source is your friend.

And the next chapter's out, and the rumble is about to be readied.

Jack

12-12-2004, 07:23 AM

Luffy's punch being blocked so easily bugs me. Not because it was, but because you KNOW when they actually fight the dude will be having way more trouble. It's just to make him look badass now.

Jack

12-12-2004, 07:24 AM

Interesting side note... in Shonen Jump USA our favorite three-sword style swordsman is now "Zolo". I guess they decided they should have consistency after all... too bad it's consistency with the Fox Box anime.
Silly, since his name is shown in romanji in the series (on bounty notices) and it's definitely spelled Roronoa Zoro. They didn't change the Shaman King names, did they? So why Zoro? Sigh.

Pikachu

12-12-2004, 10:51 PM

I just finished reading "One Piece" chapter 336! :eek:
Has anyone else gotten this far? What did you think? Not that this could be talked about without major spoilers, so I guess we'll just not talk about it.

On another note, "Tenjou Tenge" is rockin! I finished reading FIGHT: 75 (chapter 75) and the story is more interesting than ever. "Say Hello to Blackjack" just took an interesting turn too. And I'm still enjoying the art on "Air Gear" volume #7. Still, I can't shake the awe of the last edition of "One Piece." I mean, it's like finding out Darth Vader is your father or something. HUGE!

I'm just thinking the team will have to buy a new boat, but where are they going to get the money? Also, does anybody have a clue as to where Robin vanished to? She just sort of dissapeared, saying she had some business to look into. I love how her mysterious past has caught up to her. Still, what a shocker climax! Wowza! The team of "One Piece" will never be the same!

Pika! :eek:

Pikachu

12-12-2004, 10:56 PM

Sorry, I was a little slow in catching up on posts. Also, 344 is out? Golly! I'm not reading out of Shonen jump, I just buy the Tankoban. Guess it puts me a few months behind, but I do like reading larger sections of the story in one sitting!

Still, I'm wondering what Robin is up to.

Pika!

Jack

12-13-2004, 12:29 AM

SJ is up to 348, but only scanslated to 347.

If you really want to know what Robin is up to, highlight this, but beware of lots of spoilers.

She's working for Cipher Police 9, a secret service branch of the world government, complete with their own "license to kill". They're after the Pluton, which is one of the ancient weapons, and the plans for it are held by Iceberg (or rather by Franky). Robin appears to be working for them to help achieve her dream of finding the true history, but it seems there might be more to it than that.

G_Man

12-13-2004, 03:31 PM

Jack

12-15-2004, 12:54 PM

Actually Jack, they changed Hao to Zeke in the anime dub. Not sure if that will be the case with the manga (I hope not, I have a hard time respecting a villain who sounds like a cheap redneck). Lord knows they screwed up the technique names in Naruto (I still wince when I think of the Valentine/Evil Eye incident).Ah, you misunderstand me. I know they made a lot of changes in the dub, but what didn't happen was Viz changing their manga translations after the dub came out.

G_Man

12-15-2004, 07:15 PM

I see, my apologies. Yes, I am thankful for that.

Jack

12-31-2004, 09:03 AM

Well, OP 349 is finally out by Null.

Spoilers ahoy!

So, we see that the parrot dude (I forget his name) has a Devil Fruit power as well. Specifically, he's an animal (or Zoan) type, with a leopard transformation. Basically in his leopard form he's huge, a lot tougher and stronger, has claws and is more vicious. We learn also that training in a regular form pays off more when you transform into the crossbreed form. This leads me to predict that Chopper will fight him.

We also get an indication that I was correct in that CP9's weakness is that they can only use one power at a time. Every time they use them in this they call out the name, and when parrot dude is using one (not durability) Luffy punches him and it definitely has an effect. Unfortunately for Luffy the guy was in his Zoan form so it didn't do very much.

Luffy, Zoro and Chopper are hurled out to sea. Nami is left unconscious to distract the other carpenters. Paulie tries to escape with Iceberg but gets taken down. The two of them are tied together and left in the burning building.

The chapter ends with CP9 declaring that they're going to visit Franky.

The art in this chapter is simply stunning. The use of light and shadow on the last few pages while the fire blazes were jaw dropping. And as always you can literally feel the energy and emotion put into the work. Oda doesn't disappoint. Well, except in drawing women.

Jack

02-09-2005, 10:37 AM

Hoo, been a while since anyone posted on this.

Pretty much posting the discussion that I had with Dae yesterday where we discovered a new possibility for a new Straw Hat.

Basically, there's a rumour (or possibly a statement. Since I don't read Japanese I can't be sure) that there's going to be a new Straw Hat who is a returning character from the Alabaster arc. And before this I figured that that meant either Vivi or Bon Clay. But, it turns out in the anime that Pell survived. And maybe that means that in the manga he did as well. And if he did, he could well be the next Straw Hat (well, after Paulie I guess).

Pell is damn badass, which is a requirement for membership, but he also has a power that no one else has - flight. And he saved Luffy's life once, which means that Luffy will do anything for him, basically.

Daemon

02-09-2005, 06:18 PM

Indeed, he also had the most badass exit in the manga to date in my opinion.

i say exit as he might not be dead....

Captain Sarcasm

02-09-2005, 07:25 PM

Oh Pell is very much alive. Chapter 217, page 11:

http://img218.exs.cx/img218/7799/114lb.jpg

Also, One Piece now an IRC-Only release? Maximum suckage.

Daemon

02-09-2005, 08:18 PM

my gawd,

I Can't believe me and Jack both missed that in our orginal reading...especially considering how often I go back and read the Alabaster arc...

newer chaps are in my folder if you want btw CS.

Nyssane

02-10-2005, 07:45 AM

Captain Sarcasm

02-10-2005, 09:05 AM

I must be the only one who wants the crew to stay like it is (maybe even get rid of Robin). The other six have so much chemistry together that I'd hate to see someone come in and take away time from them.

Buggy and his crew need to return, also. *loves Mohji with an undying affection* It needs to explain what he's doing in the Grand Line, etc.

I think it more needs to explain how the hell he *survived* in the Grand Line. This guy was the very first guy that Luffy beat up. Any other pirate the Going Merry crew would literally tear...Buggy...to...

...ohhhhhhh...

G_Man

02-10-2005, 09:19 AM

"I think it more needs to explain how the hell he *survived* in the Grand Line. This guy was the very first guy that Luffy beat up. Any other pirate the Going Merry crew would literally tear...Buggy...to......ohhhhhhh..."

Exactly. Tearing him to pieces doesn't do a thing. he can survive most encounters simply by playing possum. And to be fair the first person Luffy beat up was Alvida. Or if you really wanna get technical it was that sea serpent.

Nyssane

02-10-2005, 09:48 AM

I like to think Buggy is the main antagonist of One Piece. ^_^ Maybe he and his crew are training just as Luffy and his are. And the next time they meet, it'll be a more even fight.

Aubergine~!

02-14-2005, 03:14 AM

I am loving the Tom flashback. Damn near cried when they finally got the sea train running. Well, not really, but it was an awesome moment.

And Franky's freaking me out. It's the briefs.

Hiromi

03-17-2005, 07:47 AM

Finally got into One Piece, took me two days to read through everything available legally stateside. Now I require more, more!

Hiromi

03-21-2005, 02:17 PM

I finally found a source for further reading, however it only goes to chapter 291, isn't One Piece currently on 330 or a similar number?

Daemon

03-21-2005, 03:05 PM

currently upto 358.

*nothing to see here people move along*

Kamen Rider Luffy

03-21-2005, 03:08 PM

>.< oh the pain of the long filler episode arc.

Jack

03-21-2005, 03:48 PM

Gotta be the first to say it - Franky is freaking JAW.

NeoSapien

03-21-2005, 05:00 PM

I finally found a source for further reading, however it only goes to chapter 291, isn't One Piece currently on 330 or a similar number?
It sounds like you found the OnePieceManga MSN group, the same place I read through most of the One Piece chapters. The newer ones (292-359) are located at volume 2: google :cool:

Aubergine~!

03-26-2005, 07:17 PM

Gotta be the first to say it - Franky is freaking JAW.

Just wish he'd put on PANTS!

And Iceburg is pretty Jaw too, must be something Tom put in their juice.

Hiromi

03-27-2005, 09:20 AM

It sounds like you found the OnePieceManga MSN group, the same place I read through most of the One Piece chapters. The newer ones (292-359) are located at volume 2: www.google.com .

You sir have my unending eternal gratitude.

G_Man

03-27-2005, 12:12 PM

I heart Neosapien...

Been waiting to find a site like that. Thanks to Neo, I've managed to read up to the beginning of the Skypiea arc.

Daemon

03-27-2005, 12:24 PM

Just wish he'd put on PANTS!

And Iceburg is pretty Jaw too, must be something Tom put in their juice.

But if you ever watch any of the old godzilla movies all the little boys wear pants like that.

Franky is just a little boy who got bigger but never really grew up.

edit: oh yea who thinks Iceburg and Franky are goint to double team Spandam into a world of hurt?

Aubergine~!

03-28-2005, 04:14 AM

But if you ever watch any of the old godzilla movies all the little boys wear pants like that.

Franky is just a little boy who got bigger but never really grew up.

Doesn't mean he isn't a bit disturbing.

And yes, Spandam's almost definitely getting his.

Jack

03-28-2005, 04:56 AM

Straw Hat's new ship >>>> Buster Call.

Hiromi

03-31-2005, 10:00 PM

I'm up to chapter 356 and in love with this whole series and whatnot, but for the love of God these flashbacks are KILLING ME!

Aubergine~!

03-31-2005, 10:19 PM

Straw Hat's new ship >>>> Buster Call.

Or maybe Paulie will eat the Ship Ship Fruit, which would let him turn into a gigantic ship.

And of course, he'd still be able to turn back and fight.

Now that'd be Jaw.

Hiromi

04-02-2005, 01:08 AM

So have 360 or 361 been scanslated yet or are the RAWs still the only ones available?

Scubbily

04-03-2005, 10:26 AM

359 chapters areon http://www.stoptazmo.com, but the guy who does said a massive update for all the manga there is coming soon. One Piece and Naruto get updated often.

Scubbily

04-03-2005, 10:29 AM

I read the first book at Barnes and Noble and thought that this concept was hilarious. I love how Luffy ate the GumGum fruit and how his body reacted to it. I can't wait until I can read the second book and see what happens with that swordsman. Spoilers are welcome but just tell me what happens in the second book.

Hiromi

04-03-2005, 10:57 AM

I ended up reading the two via raw and script. Anyway the second book will wrap up the Buggy fight and will get to the next Strawhat crewmember, Ussop, it'll end with the beginning of the Captain Kuro fight.

Scubbily

04-03-2005, 09:04 PM

So he named his crew the Strawhat Crew? Kuro? Is that the big pirate guy? The one whose statue was broken by Luffy.

Hiromi

04-03-2005, 09:38 PM

no, Kuro and Ussop aren't introduced at all until Volume 2. And the Strawhat crew is more of something the government names them than what Luffy calls them.

Hiromi

04-04-2005, 10:07 AM

I got ahead of myself, all of Volume Two is part of the Buggy arc, which doesn't conclude till Volume 3. In it you get to see Zoro doing some of his more badass feats.

Scubbily

04-05-2005, 01:43 PM

I'm not good with names and faces yet. Is Zoro the swordsman that Luffy saves? If so, I would want to see that triple sword action.

Hiromi

04-06-2005, 09:13 AM

Yes(Don't let crappy translations fool you, its Zoro, not Zolo). And 362 raw is out. Sanji kicking ass yeah baby!

Aubergine~!

04-06-2005, 10:08 AM

Haven't read the lastest yet, but...

Sanji: A man forgives a woman's lies.

Classic.

Hiromi

04-08-2005, 09:04 AM

finally found a 362 script. Sanji's finally gonna get himself a bounty.

Daemon

04-08-2005, 09:08 AM

Haven't read the lastest yet, but...

Sanji: A man forgives a woman's lies.

Classic.

heh, I was just telling Jack the other day thank gawd we there arn't many wimenz reading OP or we'd never hear the end of how much a jerk Sanji is...

Jack

04-08-2005, 03:59 PM

I don't read OP raws, but Dae and I have been saying for a while that Sanji was going to get a bounty this arc. Especially after 359 and 60.

Aubergine~!

04-11-2005, 10:22 PM

Sanji's message for Nami = awesome.

Stupid, but awesome. And hey, it did work.

Jack

04-12-2005, 08:58 AM

Sanji = awesome.

Stupid, but awesome.Fixed it for you.

Aubergine~!

04-12-2005, 11:09 PM

Sanji = awesome.

Stupidly awesome.

Fixed it for you too.

Jack

04-13-2005, 07:10 PM

Ayup, Sanji is getting an even bigger bounty than we'd thought, judging from Null's 362.

Hiromi

04-14-2005, 12:31 PM

363 raws out, Luffy gets a chance to be badass yet again.

Hiromi

05-05-2005, 12:39 PM

365 is out now, though Arlongpark's version is pretty badly low quality.

Sanji meets up with Ussop and Frankie

Silver Knight

05-06-2005, 07:44 PM

Hiromi

05-07-2005, 10:16 AM

There is no dub version

*sticks fingers in ears and chants lalalalalala*

Silver Knight

05-07-2005, 04:26 PM

There is no dub version

*sticks fingers in ears and chants lalalalalala*

how unfortuitly wrong u are

The Xenos

05-07-2005, 10:22 PM

Man, I caught it on Toonami tonight. I was hoping for a somewhat new version, but it's the same old crappy 4kids cut. Guess I won't be watching One Piece dubbed ever dammit. I like dubs too. Will ahve to watch the sub whenever the uncut DVDs come out because I doubt they'll redo the voices.

There was an interview with the president of 4kids here (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/columns/sunday.php?id=35). He flat out said merchendising if the main reason for picking up shows like One Piece.

"We look at things such as popularity, but also if it has a merchandising component; can we license it, can we license products for it? Thats really the main issue for us... the playing pattern, if it's popular and how it merchandises. If we can't merchandise it, it really doesn't have a lot of interest for us."

"because it's too expensive to do the dubbing and the acquisitions because we rewrite, we re-script, we re-score. So it's very difficult to do that if you don't have any other revenue streams and we have to make sure we get that."

Ok, this guy wins in my book for corperate sleeze of the year. Why someone like this is even allowed near creative ventures like One Piece or any form of entertainment is beyond me. These are the people ruining shows for kids and corrupting future generations.

-Xenos

Captain Sarcasm

05-08-2005, 12:48 AM

Sanji is very cool, but I just hate the voice they gave him in america. Its like some dumb, gettho, jersey italian. It stinks. I imagine his voice as somewhat gruff and manly. But at last Zoro is still cool. Yahoo Zoro!

I dunno, I kinda saw him with a vaguely european and upper-classy accent. Like in 'Highlander' but without all the suck.

Silver Knight

05-08-2005, 11:14 AM

I dunno, I kinda saw him with a vaguely european and upper-classy accent. Like in 'Highlander' but without all the suck.

Well that could work I guess, if they give it a little Umph, and not make him sound like a wimp.

Hiromi

05-23-2005, 12:55 PM

The lack of One Piece discussion makes me sad :<

In any case 367 is out and it kicks major booty

Zoro and Luffy blow a hole in a gigantic Tidal wave with team attack, and Ussop gets a badass moment for himself. And the conversation between Sanji and Zoro never fails to be amusing

Hiromi

06-27-2005, 06:07 PM

jboncha

09-09-2005, 11:59 PM

I checked out the first couple chapters of this book and it doesnt seem to be my kinda thing.
OK...
Its about pirates I could have liked that if there wasnt so much comedy involved in the story.
I'm also not a big fan the exagerated expression thing either.
This book obviously has millions of fans and it aint gonna good down the drain just because I dont like it.
My budget could use me not spending that $7-10 every few months getting another series anyways.
I have got into Bleach within the last few days.
It looks like a book that I may end up staying with for a while.

J B

G_Man

09-14-2005, 06:50 PM

This thread simply does not get any love anymore, lots of stuff happened in one Piece while I was gone, and Sanji is now even more stupidly badass, maybe even approaching Zoro levels.

I'm still torn about whether or not I want Franky or Ice-Berg to join the Straw hats after the arc finishes

Franky certainly is a fighting beast

Ussop rocks.

Agreed. As awesome as the current arc is, the fact that this thread is so ignored is almost criminal.

On another note, One Piece has finally succumbed to what is frequently regarded as one of the plagues of shonen action manga. That's right, a power rating system (fortunately, it's stated the system isn't perfect, it doesn't include things like Devil Fruit powers, or transformations). Apparently one of the CP9 has a tech that lets him measure your level of physical strength after you strike him.

The average Marine has a dokuriki level of 10. The weakest of CP9 (aside from Spandam, who isn't a fighter anyway) Karifa, the lady with the thorn whips, has a dokuriki level of 630. Lucci, the ventriloquist with the pet pigeon, has a dokuriki level of 4000! That means the weakest of the bad guys' fighters is as physically strong as 63 marines put together, and the strongest is as strong as 400 marines put together (and that's not including the strength boost from transforming into his were-jaguar form)! :eek:

Shiro

11-07-2005, 02:28 PM

I agree Sanji is getting very strong hes becoming an important character in Luffys crew. I hope there wont be a power struggle between the two!

Chocolove

11-07-2005, 03:52 PM

Agreed. As awesome as the current arc is, the fact that this thread is so ignored is almost criminal.

On another note, One Piece has finally succumbed to what is frequently regarded as one of the plagues of shonen action manga. That's right, a power rating system (fortunately, it's stated the system isn't perfect, it doesn't include things like Devil Fruit powers, or transformations).

Speaking of 'classic' shonen, what does everyone think of Luffy going super saiyan ?

While it is a bit too early to tell, posters at Arlong Park seem to think Oda's using comic book super science via the concept of vulcanization. I think they're giving him a little too much credit.

NeoSapien

11-07-2005, 04:12 PM

Speaking of 'classic' shonen, what does everyone think of Luffy going super saiyan ?

While it is a bit too early to tell, posters at Arlong Park seem to think Oda's using comic book super science via the concept of vulcanization. I think they're giving him a little too much credit.
Yeah, Luffy seems to have gained steam power for no apparent reason at all. Plus he was on the verge of going up another gear or something when Blueno keeled over. Still, it was cool.

Hiromi

11-07-2005, 09:00 PM

I'm a bit bummed as this arc seems to be dragging on, fortunatly the latest chapter seems to point to them being at the end of the Gauntlet they've been running for the last good number of chapters.

apple pro

11-08-2005, 04:15 AM

i've accepted One Piece for what it is and not what it could be. and it's fine whatever way the mangaka wishes to go. with this water 7 arc, i've witnessed him take us into an "emotional" direction with robin, usop, merry and paulie. i think his surprising plot and deep story overshadows dorky shonen artifacts like rating systems. i like the clever "bounty ratings" system that has been implemented.

apple pro

11-09-2005, 04:12 AM

Yeah, Luffy seems to have gained steam power for no apparent reason at all. Plus he was on the verge of going up another gear or something when Blueno keeled over. Still, it was cool.

i think i finally caught up with you...

yeah, the second gear thing can be explained though i think. zoro says they all got stronger going from island to island. freakin' luffy took out one of the 7 sea gods and an elemental power user. i think if the author can manage a reasonable explanation, this would make sense. i think the mangaka does a great job. he could have had all the straw hat crew be devil fruit eaters but he keeps several very weak. he has personally built up sanji since he was introduced too.

one piece is a million times deeper than dragonball ever was. DB never got this clever with the plot and storylines.

G_Man

11-09-2005, 04:53 AM

To be fair, all this "Second Gear" thing seemed to be was an improvement in Luffy's strength. He didn't gain the greater speed from going into "Second Gear", he gained it from mimicking Blueno's "Soru" super-speed technique (he said that he was glad to have met CP9 since he learned the tech by watching them do it so much).

Though that was an awesome fight. I don't think anybody is mocking Blueno's Dora Dora power anymore (I remember a poster months earlier stating that it looked like Blueno got a lame power since we'd only seen him use it to go through walls before).

GreyLancaster

11-09-2005, 04:00 PM

Chocolove

11-11-2005, 06:20 AM

So...

Luffy Vs. CP9 ? It's doubtful he'll fight them all, it's certain he'll fight Lucci, but what about the rest ? Initially I saw Luffy running through a small guantlet of CP9 members given how far ahead he managed to get of the others, but that seems unlikely unless he tears through the weaker members, which doesn't have much of a point. As long as Gear Third isn't involved the fight with Lucci should be interested since I doubt Gear Second totally puts Luffy on tha level. It'll be nice to see another Crocodile fight.

Robin's starting to get a bit annoying. At this point how much reason is there for her to be resisting ? The strawhats have pretty much gone into anad gotten out of every situation she thought would harm them and then there's the fact she was around when Luffy took down a 'god'(Eneru). Somebody will likely have to smack her to snap her out of her self-pity and guilt.

Not a spoiler, but if Sogeking does fight I'd like to see some seastone and dial technology. A cerebral, slow-paced sniper fight with Kaku would also be interesting, which is to say Soge attempting to snipe Kaku while dealing with superior speed and attempting not to give away his position.

G_Man

11-11-2005, 06:33 AM

Man, I haven't read One Piece in quite a while.

Are they still trying to rescue Nico Robin?

And I'm not sure if I like that power rating thing that G-Man posted a page ago

Sound to much like DBZ to me

To be fair, they even stated in the chapter that the system was not entirely accurate because it only measures physical strength (lifting, punching, etc.). It doesn't take into account things like chi techniques, transformations, skill as a fighter, or Devil Fruit powers. So Oda-sensei intentionally gave himself an out. Besides, I doubt that they'll use the rating system after this arc. It was probably introduced just to make Lucci seem more badass (Blueno gave Luffy trouble and his rating was nowhere near Lucci's).

Captain Sarcasm

11-11-2005, 07:19 AM

(Blueno gave Luffy trouble and his rating was nowhere near Lucci's).

This is just a little annoying nitpick, but why did the scan people call him "Blueno"? He's obviously meant to be "Bruno." This is like how they called it "Logue Town," when even 4kids could tell that it's meant to be "Rogue Town."

apple pro

11-11-2005, 07:24 AM

So...

Robin's starting to get a bit annoying. At this point how much reason is there for her to be resisting ? The strawhats have pretty much gone into anad gotten out of every situation she thought would harm them and then there's the fact she was around when Luffy took down a 'god'(Eneru). Somebody will likely have to smack her to snap her out of her self-pity and guilt.

Not a spoiler, but if Sogeking does fight I'd like to see some seastone and dial technology. A cerebral, slow-paced sniper fight with Kaku would also be interesting, which is to say Soge attempting to snipe Kaku while dealing with superior speed and attempting not to give away his position.

IMO, Robin is getting cooler. At some point at the climax of the plot, maybe right before Luffy fights Lucci or right after — Luffy will "win" her over or something like he did nami. nami wanted nothing to do with luffy until she was desperate for his help. that's how luffy knows nami is completely and utterly loyal to him forever. and that is how it will work with robin, i suspect.

i think these are the best scenes in the book. when luffy put his hat on nami after she cried and was on her knees in coco village. when luffy did not interfere with zoro's battle with mihawk and he promised luffy he would never lose again.

and sogeking —*i think they needed to do something with him. he is extremely underpowered and with the possible new carpenter coming aboard soon, i think it was another brilliant move to have this character grow more. sogeking pre and after this watertown storyline will be 2 completely different people.

Hiromi

11-11-2005, 11:22 AM

Robin's big thing has been and remains the buster call. Everyone who knows what it is seems to pretty much equate it with an automatic destruction of the Island they're on. And considering the way Aokiji effortlessly kicked the Strawhats ass, and then given the way that he's only one of the people the buster call summons, its not surprising.

GreyLancaster

11-11-2005, 05:39 PM

To be fair, they even stated in the chapter that the system was not entirely accurate because it only measures physical strength (lifting, punching, etc.). It doesn't take into account things like chi techniques, transformations, skill as a fighter, or Devil Fruit powers. So Oda-sensei intentionally gave himself an out. Besides, I doubt that they'll use the rating system after this arc. It was probably introduced just to make Lucci seem more badass (Blueno gave Luffy trouble and his rating was nowhere near Lucci's).

Thank goodness for that! Lucci got a Dokuriki of 4000, right? Does that mean he can beat Raditz ? :D

GreyLancaster

11-11-2005, 05:40 PM

Hiromi

11-11-2005, 10:38 PM

The Buster Call summons the admirals of Navy, several dudes like Aokiji, whol alone was powerful enough to freeze a small sea solid. to a single place, it was done once to try and contain Robin, and the entire island was destroyed in the process.

Guts/Batman

11-11-2005, 11:12 PM

I don't get the graphic novels but read it in American Shonen Jump.

Good fun story that doesn't take itself too seriously unlike certain comics these days...

Since I am only reading it in SJ, I'm only up to right before the shark guy and Luffy will be doing battle. I'm pumped to read it.

Hiromi

11-11-2005, 11:47 PM

Ouch they're still stuck at Arlong? Man.

GreyLancaster

11-11-2005, 11:53 PM

Pikachu

11-13-2005, 08:46 PM

All I can say is Nikko Robin is the bomb! Wowza!

Hiromi is on about the current story line which is focussing on Robin's past. It's really great with the tension and intrigue, Oda-sensei is doing an amazing job! I love that Sanji and Usopu are on the train together in chapter 367, and I can't wait to see what happens when Luffy and the Kokoro gang catches up!

I think Robin knows something and is holding out. There really is no reason for her willingness to go quietly with CP9. I'm waiting for my fiance to send me volume 39 of the tankoban from Japan! I don't read fanscans, so I'm a little behind, but hopefully not by much!

Pika!

apple pro

11-14-2005, 04:13 AM

yeah, i dig robin too. i also want tashigi, smoker's marine assistant to join too and that will make me happy for a long time in terms of female crew members.

my bet for the new crewmwmber is going to be Paulie... not frankie.

G_Man

11-14-2005, 04:48 AM

Thank goodness for that! Lucci got a Dokuriki of 4000, right? Does that mean he can beat Raditz ? :D

Anal Nit-picker Response: Last I checked, the only person in One Piece who could wipe out an entire island in one attack was Eneru while he was using Advent of Thunder on that gold ship of his, so no, Lucci can't beat Raditz.

In Keeping with the Joke Response: Ha! He could beat Raditz and at least three Saibamen with one hand behind his back!! :D

Guts/Batman

11-14-2005, 01:53 PM

Ouch they're still stuck at Arlong? Man.

Yep.

I might get into the graphic novels here soon but I'm not sure. I'm getting enough comics as is.

Hiromi

11-14-2005, 02:25 PM

Wouldn't bother, IIRC the GNs are still at the recruiting Sanji part.

Guts/Batman

11-14-2005, 02:29 PM

That's what I thought....

Hiromi

11-22-2005, 01:36 AM

*sigh*

Its scenes like this that remind me exactly why I read One Piece.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/jmjon9/Comic%20Images/op390-18.png

apple pro

11-22-2005, 04:16 AM

i turned that into a desktop last night. since i'm a graphic designer, i tried turning it different colors and some other stuff. after 10 minutes, i downloaded it again and just sized it to be in the center of my desktop. the original was perfect as is.

OP has it all. Action. Comedy. Deep storylines. Original plot. It appeals to so many genres. The part I have grown to love is the casting. I thought zoro and nami were cool at first... but I really love Sanji and Chooper now too. After this last storyline where some emotional issues were dealt with concerning Usopp... I kind of like him too!

This current storyline is spectacular and I can't wait until next week! This is a great time for OP fans!

(the only thing was i wish sogeking was more stoic, but i suppose 1 funny panel is cool)

G_Man

11-22-2005, 07:10 AM

*sigh*

Its scenes like this that remind me exactly why I read One Piece.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/jmjon9/Comic%20Images/op390-18.png

I'm not ashamed to admit when I saw that scene today I damn near shed a tear like Robin did... :o

apple pro

11-22-2005, 10:13 AM

I'm not ashamed to admit when I saw that scene today I damn near shed a tear like Robin did... :o

:D the emotional impact of this story is bigger than all the previous storylines too!

i think this may be the first time they all fight as a unit as well!

Hiromi

11-22-2005, 04:03 PM

Well its pretty obviously setting up the big Straw Hats/CP9 showdown.

G_Man

11-22-2005, 07:27 PM

Well its pretty obviously setting up the big Straw Hats/CP9 showdown.

It's gonna have to be a big group throwdown, cuz' I can't see Nami fighting one-on-one with even the weakest of CP9 (Karifa, the secretary with the thorn whips, not to mention whatever Devil Fruit power she just got) and not getting her own intestines fed to her in the first five seconds. :eek:

And yeah, lots of emotional investment in this one, and if we're lucky, and flashback into Robin's past. I swear, evey time they show a big closeup of Robin's face getting all emotional, it makes me want to shout at the screen, "You fool!!! Go back to them!! You know you want to!! Don't worry about Buster Call! This is a shonen manga! Believe in the power of friendship!!!" :o

Hiromi

11-22-2005, 08:42 PM

Nami makes up for her lack of fighting skills with her stellar running away skills.

Zun Liako

11-22-2005, 08:51 PM

Nami is pretty decent with that staff. See: Doublefingers fight

Hiromi

11-22-2005, 09:04 PM

Most of that fight consisted of Nami using her superior running away skills though. And yeah the staff is potentially a really powerful weapon, especially if you underestimate her, which fortunatly for her tends to happen a lot(understadanbly given the rest of the crew).

apple pro

11-23-2005, 04:16 AM

nami is formidable in situations like taking advantage of a dumb fighter. or if she teamed up with sanji or usopp — she can lead her foe to get kicked or shot at.

plus — I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE SOGEKING KICK ASS AND GET BACK ON THE CREW!!!!!

Pikachu

11-23-2005, 06:30 AM

G_Man

11-23-2005, 07:06 PM

I wonder what power Nami would get if she ever ate the Devil's fruit? Any theories. I for one would think invisibility, which would go great with her, stellar running away skills! Haha.

Actually, I was thinking "Steam" would be a cool ability for Nami, if she ever did take a taste of the cursed Devil's fruit.

Pika!

Technically Smoker's already got the steam thing covered. Besides, I think it's best if one of the team's most crucial members did not sink like a lead weight if she was ever knocked into water. God, knows having the captain and the ship's doctor unable to swim is a huge enough gamble as it is.

apple pro

11-23-2005, 07:32 PM

I agree. Nami is fine the way she is. Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Robin and Chopper are the heavy hitters so to speak.

Nami is one of the most important people in the story just because she is talented at navigation and is smart.

They serve their roles.

Pikachu

11-24-2005, 08:42 AM

Yeah, they all serve their roles. I kind of miss Vivi from time to time though. It's cool that Robin took her place, because I am so in love with her character, but she has been kind of depressing lately. I mean, for how powerful she is, she's acting like a big sissy. I guess she just doesn't want to see her closest nakama hurt by her own past, which is honorable. But knowing Luffy, he won't let anything stand in his way of keeping those closest to him as family away from harm.

The Cypherpol #9 (CP9) showdown is going to be one of the coolest fights ever in the history of manga! I'm really looking forward to everyone maxing out their abilities, especially Robin (who I hope makes an amazing and triumphant come back), who to date, has minimally used her powers... which are feakin' aweseome bye the way!

Pika!

Pikachu

11-24-2005, 09:00 AM

Also I think it's great that the women of the One Piece crew tend to be the intelectual ones. They have both beauty and brains. It says a lot about the type of artist and manga you're reading when the women are all intelligent, savy, and cunning characters and most of the men tend to be baffoons, brutes, and warrior types. I just think it's neat that Oda-sensie puts women into those type of leadership support roles vs. side-kick types.

If I were to make a scale of most intelligent on the crew, to least intelligent, it would go like this...

Niko Robin
Nami & Usoppu & Chopper (All tied)
Sanji
Zoro & Luffy

I only put Robin on the top because she doesn't seem to have a specialization, rather, she has a vast multitude of knowledge, kind of like a college professor. Plus she is constantly reading, reading, and reading some more. She is multi-lingual and can read ancient scripts, decipher ancient texts, and has a worldly knowledge from having had to grow up by herself and survive. Yet so little is known about her, I'm hoping the CP9 story divulges further what kind of metal she is made of.

Nami, Usoppu, and Chopper all have highly specialized degrees, but their focus is directed in one specific area. Navigation, Invention/Engineering, and Medicine respectably.

As for our main studs, Sanji knows recepies and has fashion sense, so I'm placing him above the dizzying intellect of Zoro and Luffy. Zoro and Luffy boil down to the backbone of the crew, they are the strength and the fortitude. Luffy has the biggest heart, and Zoro is the steal the binds them. All in all, that's what makes One Piece so wonderful, because it's not about who's better (even though the antics of Zoro and Sanji may fool some) but it's about the close knit friendships, being a family, and working together to make your dreams come true; no matter the cost.

And gosh darn it, if that isn't one of the most inspiring messages in entertainment today.

Pika!

apple pro

11-24-2005, 09:03 AM

yeah, robin has grown on me too (just like every character has).

i used to want zoro to gut her but now she is one of the most fascinating. she is clearly older than most of the crew, so it's interesting to see her interact with stupid, immature luffy and the rest. i believe she still does not call everybody by name, instead calling them Mr. Swordsman and etc. luffy has taken down 2 biggies in front of her — crocodile and eneru, so she has to have some respect and admiration there.

what's going to be great is the aftermath of watertown. i wonder how she acts and what her role is in the crew at that point. right now, she is almost like a guest. what's going to be funny is sanji asking the girls to take off their shirts and paulie yelling at them to put them on!

haha!

apple pro

12-01-2005, 05:11 PM

Robin flashback has begun.

And I think she has officially been hearted by apple pro.

samuraizero

12-04-2005, 10:57 AM

Why did Gold D. Roger let him self/get him self arrested and executed?
Any Theorys?

NeoSapien

12-04-2005, 08:25 PM

Why did Gold D. Roger let him self/get him self arrested and executed?
Any Theorys?
He was probably taken by force or trickery. Aokiji implied that he was involved, and likely the other Marine Grand Admirals were as well.

samuraizero

12-05-2005, 02:15 AM

I do not know who aokji is sorry im only up to loguetown arc...
Soz

apple pro

12-05-2005, 04:31 AM

the full details on Gold Roger have not been revealed.

GR must have been either 1. defeated, 2. tricked into being executed. How that happened... will be solved in the last story arc of this series, i predict.

samuraizero

12-05-2005, 09:54 AM

Anal Nit-picker Response: Last I checked, the only person in One Piece who could wipe out an entire island in one attack was Eneru while he was using Advent of Thunder on that gold ship of his, so no, Lucci can't beat Raditz.

In Keeping with the Joke Response: Ha! He could beat Raditz and at least three Saibamen with one hand behind his back!! :D
... even krillin could hold his own agants luffy if yur aiming that way...
but one piece's powers are differnt forem dragonball z or we bloody see pirates firing energy beams the size of houses...

Azangel

12-06-2005, 10:39 AM

Just a note to the newer people here - please don't request information on downloading scanilations or fansubs, or buying the same. Finding this stuff on your own isn't that difficult.

Basically, discussion is fine, but links are bad.

Thanks.

samuraizero

12-06-2005, 11:22 AM

keekles
keekles
keekles

Azangel

12-06-2005, 03:29 PM

I'm glad I'm funny...

I think.

Hiromi

12-06-2005, 04:09 PM

Google people, Google.

LordEd1976

12-06-2005, 05:16 PM

... even krillin could hold his own agants luffy if yur aiming that way...
but one piece's powers are differnt forem dragonball z or we bloody see pirates firing energy beams the size of houses...

what do you mean houses?!?! The Energy beams would the size of the Statue of liberty.

And that would be just the low level characters.

Gemini Saga

12-06-2005, 10:39 PM

Do you think Franky will join Luffy's crew as carpenter? I really hope so

apple pro

12-07-2005, 04:17 AM

I personally think Paulie is the one.

Oda has highlighted him throughout this arc. If you think about it, Paulie has a minimal place in this story and is being showhorned into the situations he is in. It fits, plus I like the way he interacts with the crew. I think him and Sanji will be hilarious.

Pikachu

12-07-2005, 06:28 AM

If you look closely at the team douple page spread which splits CP9 and the team, the one Oda drew for Chapter 377, Franky is drawn in with the One Piece crew. This is as good a sign as any that Franky will be the official new member. Detuctive reasoning alone forces all the clues to point to Franky, and the only way I see it turning out differently is if Oda is intentionally throwing us a huge curve ball, but I doubt it.

The team is already getting overly large, and I really was hoping that if there was a new crew member that it would be a woman, because as it is the team is testostrone heavy, but only time will tell. With the way Oda tells stories you can't really guess ahead and predict what he'll do. He's kind of random in that regard, which is one reason One Piece is so easy to fall in love with. It's great fun, and you never know what will happen next. Keeps me reading anyway!

Pika!

NeoSapien

12-07-2005, 09:57 AM

The color spread did include Frankie, but Paulie just makes more sense as a long-term crew member. Frankie has his family and business in Water 7 and has no real motive to leave (except escape from the government, but the same is true for Iceberg and dozens of others taking part in the current battle). Paulie has his gambling debts to escape and is considerably younger, making him a better match generationally with Luffy's crew. Frankie is more likely to provide the Straw Hats their new ship in gratitude than to actually go with them.

Hiromi

12-07-2005, 10:46 AM

I frankly think either of them would make good additions, if its Frankie its one more for the goofy side with Luffy, Ussop, and Chopper, if its Paulie one more for the serious side of Sanji, Zoro, Nami, and Robin. Both have uniuqe fighting styles that fit in with the rest of the cast, and both have the all important carpenter ability that Luffy is looking for.

apple pro

12-07-2005, 12:02 PM

If you look closely at the team douple page spread which splits CP9 and the team, the one Oda drew for Chapter 377, Franky is drawn in with the One Piece crew. This is as good a sign as any that Franky will be the official new member. Detuctive reasoning alone forces all the clues to point to Franky, and the only way I see it turning out differently is if Oda is intentionally throwing us a huge curve ball, but I doubt it.

Vivie used to be in chapter heads too. I think Franky is in this spread because he will be serve a significance to the plot. PLus, Oda is not lying —*it is literally these peepz vs. these peepz.

I actually think this arc is going to go on for quite a bit longer. I f you want to hear my speculation... just say so! :D

Pikachu

12-07-2005, 06:56 PM

Not to stomp on any toes, but Vivi was on the chapter heads because she was officially part of the team. Thus the sentimental moment when she has to say good bye and Luffy and gang hold up their right arms with the X tattoo. That's a special moment when they are saying good bye to a team member... not just supporting cast. So far, all the patterns with Franky are there, at least ones which run in tangent with what has been done before. Although, I'm not holding my breath, because like I said, when it comes to One Piece anything is possible.

Also, I agree with Apple Pro that this arc will go on longer. The Davy Back Fight arc was a short hurah, funny, and entertaining and gladly didn't drag on because there wasn't any intrigue. It was a really well done filler arc, but this CP9 and Robbin Niko arc has similarities to the two prior monster arcs of Croccodile and the Skypiea story lines.

There's a large sum of characters, there is the build up, the goal is established, this time the focus is regaining a main character, but then there is the added flash backs which have to reveal the character's history. On top of that the pairing off battles haven't begun yet, and those can run entire volumes of books. My guess is we can have five or six more trade collections before this one is even near over.

Pika!

apple pro

12-07-2005, 07:53 PM

this paulie vs. frankie debate actually got heated in another forum... that guy was obsessed with frankie.

IMO, he doesn't really fit because he's old and has baggage (frankie family). paulie to me has been built up with characterization and he has a relationship with luffy and the crew. frankie is crucial to the plot but at this point, he's really only acquintances with usopp and robin. also, paulie is actually a master shipwright taught by iceberg whereas frankie calls himself a dismantler... although I admit he is knowledgeable because tom raised him.

but i think most of us are agreeing this chapter is long and everything will fall into place.

Gemini Saga

12-09-2005, 12:12 PM

Hiromi

12-10-2005, 11:11 PM

Just finished downloading 120-130 of the anime, and in 130 the scene where Luffy saved Robin reminded me of something. This is the SECOND time he's saved her ass despite the fact she was all resigned to die.

apple pro

12-11-2005, 09:41 AM

I seriously think Frankie will be better, wasn't Luffy looking for a singer/musician or something like that, Frankie will do the job and his voice actor is doing a fine job... Seriously I wanted Mr. 2 (Bon Clay) to join them but there was no chance but right now I am hoping for Frankie. He have many weapons and can be used in the series for future fights.

better is subjective. luffy made the right decision by asking iceberg to join the crew. BEST SHIPWRIGHT IN WATERTOWN. forget about iceberg having worse battle skills than nami. the fact he does his job competently is great. frankie is cool, but is he really shipwright material?

i kind of like Paulie for whatever reason. one of the best things about love hina was how after 14 volumes, motoko was completely changed and she grew as a character. i already see that with almost every single One Piece character. with frankie... i don't see growth becuase he's at his peak right now, i see paulie getting better because he's young and has a righteous personality.

samuraizero

12-12-2005, 10:29 AM

About To Enter Tony Tony Chopper Arc W00t!

Hiromi

12-12-2005, 08:52 PM

Um wow, so i just watched 245 of the anime having previously only seen up to 167, and, wow, someone want to tell me about at what time the animation started looking this gorgeous?

Azangel

12-12-2005, 09:40 PM

245...episodes?

Of the anime?

My god, I'll be dead of old age before they get there on CN...

Hiromi

12-12-2005, 10:19 PM

Heh, 392 chapters of manga, 247 episodes of anime, and they wonder why we turn to fan subs and scanslation...well aside from the pis poor dub and sorry ass official translation jobs and stuff.

samuraizero

12-13-2005, 07:26 AM

Heh, 392 chapters of manga, 247 episodes of anime, and they wonder why we turn to fan subs and scanslation...well aside from the pis poor dub and sorry ass official translation jobs and stuff.
im suprprised anybody watchs it..
the damn eng dub you know with the scrappy doo voice of luffy

Azangel

12-13-2005, 07:24 PM

samuraizero

12-14-2005, 09:55 AM

I'm watching 'cause it's on, I have CN, and not enough money to buy it.
(Especially now that I find out how long the series really is...*sigh*)

:)

The voices, while annoying, aren't the worst thing I've heard. Trust me. :)
FANSUBS F00L FANSUBS
FANSUBS!!!
NOW!!

http://www.trimpe.org/jr/pictures/you-have-annoyed-monkey.jpg
http://www.trimpe.org/jr/pictures/you-have-annoyed-monkey.jpg

Azangel

12-14-2005, 03:38 PM

Dialup, dude, DIAL-UP!

MJC

12-14-2005, 04:09 PM

im suprprised anybody watchs it..
the damn eng dub you know with the scrappy doo voice of luffy

How does Luffy sound in the original? Somebody told me he sounds about the same...

samuraizero

12-15-2005, 11:46 AM

How does Luffy sound in the original? Somebody told me he sounds about the same...
a kinda nasal voice
bizzare homer simpson voice but higher pitched its awesome

samuraizero

12-15-2005, 11:47 AM

Dialup, dude, DIAL-UP!
BROADBAND NOW!
i aint waiting for yur connection....

Azangel

12-15-2005, 04:45 PM

Professor H

12-15-2005, 05:36 PM

one pice sort of died for me .... i got passed the skypiea arc in the manga and got onto the shipwrigt/watertown stuff and it just wasn't entertaining me anymore ... even more ultra super powerfull people and now it doesn't even have the same good humor that it used to have .... does it get any better? or at least funnier?

G_Man

12-15-2005, 09:47 PM

Just read 391 and 392. Just about every scene with little Robin made me want to reach into the screen and hug her! She was a damn adorable kid.

And as for the half-giant, Hagwood D. Saulo, "Everyone in my family has that initial for some reason..." :eek:

Hiromi

12-16-2005, 12:25 AM

I dunno, where I live, broadband is around $50 a month... Cable is $30 a month, and goes out a lot, especially after hurricanes. Cable was out for 90 days after Ivan - the phone, 4 days.

I'm paying $14.95 a month - think I'll stick with it til I hit lotto or something!

Oh yeah...anyway... taking a step back in One Piece time, as I missed the first couple episodes, WHY was Zolo in stocks when he first saw Luffy?

Axe Hand dude's brat's dog was terrorizing a little girl, Zoro slashed it, so the brat made a bet with Zoro, if he could make the whole month on the stake he wouldn't punish the little girl for what he did(cause trying to punish Zoro directly would be an effort in futility). COurse it was all a lie and stuff but hey, helped Luffy find his first crew mate.

Pikachu

12-16-2005, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by Professor H

one pice sort of died for me .... i got passed the skypiea arc in the manga and got onto the shipwrigt/watertown stuff and it just wasn't entertaining me anymore ... even more ultra super powerfull people and now it doesn't even have the same good humor that it used to have .... does it get any better? or at least funnier?

The Skypeia arc was a work of genius, and they are rare in any medium, however, as a whole, I've been enjoying the Watertown arc the best. I think Oda got in all his laughs with the Davy Backfight arc, which was hillarious by the way.

After that filler, the Watertown/ CP9 arc is meant to be more serious, and also the focus is less on Luffy but on Robin. This is a much needed change of pace, because One Piece is about the Straw Hat pirates, not just about Luffy being weird and kicking ass. Although, there's plenty of that, Luffy doesn't have the luxury of being as goofy, because he knows exactly what's at stake. But I must say, Oda's message of nakama and bonds of friendship have never come through more clearly (well maybe with the exception of Vivi's arc). One Piece is enjoyable, entertaining, and heart warming! And never ever dull.

Pika!

apple pro

12-16-2005, 06:39 PM

this goes to show you everybody has different tastes. I never thought One Piece was that great until about how Oda figured out how to top Alabaster. he topped it and raised the chips with Watertown!

i am loving watertown and the fight that is coming up will be the best ever. even more interesting than that is just the dynamics of the group and how that's going to work with all the new issues of the crew!

yay for one piece!

samuraizero

12-17-2005, 10:11 AM

whre can i get chapters 286+ manga thnaks

Hiromi

12-17-2005, 11:10 AM

check page 6 of this thread

samuraizero

12-19-2005, 04:29 AM

Thanks
Seeya

samuraizero

12-21-2005, 01:54 PM

wtf is this gear techinque?
also ANIME FORUM REVIVE SPELL
purify soul complete

Hiromi

12-21-2005, 02:18 PM

the Gear thing hasn't yet been explained. Right now we're in the middle of a flashback which will likely stretch another couple of chapters, but its alright cause I don't mind finally learning about Robin's past.

samuraizero

12-23-2005, 11:05 AM

alabasta's ending was an cop out btw

apple pro

12-23-2005, 07:26 PM

alabaster was OK. it was like the "first quarter" of this series IMO. it had a monstrous all-encompassing ending. all stories before alabaster were for forming a basic crew and getting to know each other. all stories after alabaster are now with a firm crew that are basically fully loyal to luffy.

(robin represents the 2nd half of crew members, which will continue with Paulie :cool: ... maybe)

samuraizero

12-24-2005, 05:23 AM

Hiromi

12-24-2005, 08:55 AM

It was never said, but given Oda's dislike for killing characters I think its a fair assumption that he didn't die.

Hiromi

12-24-2005, 09:24 AM

Just read 394, yep the World Government are a bunch of Bastards.

samuraizero

12-28-2005, 08:35 AM

God is Skypiea boring

apple pro

12-28-2005, 10:14 AM

Just read 394, yep the World Government are a bunch of Bastards.

i hope the next chapter is the last of the flashback though. i am starting to think back to the "present day" beat down the SH crew is about to give

samuraizero

12-29-2005, 05:39 AM

Skypiea So Sloooooooooowwwwwwww

G_Man

12-30-2005, 01:02 PM

Skypiea So Sloooooooooowwwwwwww

I felt the same way, but at least the battles at the end pay off for the wait. :D

Hiromi

12-30-2005, 09:03 PM

i hope the next chapter is the last of the flashback though. i am starting to think back to the "present day" beat down the SH crew is about to give

No, going by 395 we still have another issue or two I'd wager.

G_Man

12-31-2005, 09:07 AM

No, going by 395 we still have another issue or two I'd wager.

Since Buster Call was just initiated one or two more chapters at the max sounds about right. Damn, seeing Robin trying to talk to her mom was just painful. Made me tear up. :o

apple pro

12-31-2005, 10:05 AM

true, true... i'm loving this arc. lil robin is such a cutey

samuraizero

12-31-2005, 03:15 PM

skypiea just seems to be an filler arc and yes im talking about the manga....
but oda prob needed to put buffer in between alabasta and cp9....

apple pro

12-31-2005, 03:25 PM

what are you talking about?

the shells are going to really add complexity to future stories. especially for nami and usopp's characters.

Pikachu

01-01-2006, 12:17 PM

'Skypiea' wasn't a filler. A filler arc typically consists of two collected volumes which link broader story arcs. At least technically speaking, that's how I've come to understand it. Skypiea lasted seven volumes, if I recall correctly. The 'Davy Back Fight' was a filler arc. But in terms of Oda's story telling technique, he pulls so much story up from the depths of past arcs, and keeps side stories running with such fluidity, that really it's hard to judge what a filler arc is or is not when it comes to "One Piece."

Really, Oda's story telling is so circular and organic that you get an amazing depth in how he weaves character development and plot together. This makes even the smallest and seemingly most trivial stories something that adds to the detail of the 'One Piece' universe. What's more, is how expansive his world is. When you think of the several hundred American comic book writers which took numerous years to create the detail that rounds out the Marvel or DC universes, it's astonishing to think that Oda single handedly has made a tangible world of pirates with such brilliant detail, and single handedly at that too!

Professor H

01-01-2006, 04:19 PM

well i have made it as far as 392...

i'm glad i started reading again as it still has a certian amount of coolness and humor left in it

unfortunatly yes it is starting to et into the relms of main charactor power-ups but as lon as it keeps its humor and its pace then it will be ok

i think i just burn my self out last time by readin over 300 chapters in under a week

samuraizero

01-02-2006, 07:13 AM