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Effect
12-01-2006, 07:17 PM
Okay I know the X-men for the most part aren't taking part in Civil War however I just saw something that I really wonder how is going to affect the X-men. Especailly since it would bring up really bad thoughts and memories. This was in the following linked blog.

http://www.marvel.com/blogs/Agent_M/

This is an image from Civil War: Casualties of War.

Now I don't know about you but I really think the X-men and mutants in general, among those that are left I mean, would have a lot to say about this and have a very strong reaction. A few around the mansion is one thing but filling the skies with them?

http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/580new_storyimage4900693_full.jpg

Do you think there needs to be a serious reaction from the X-men and the mutant community in general about this?

Frodo-X
12-01-2006, 07:21 PM
I'm not gonna lie to you, it doesn't look good.

Story-wise, not the art. The art is good.

jmc247
12-01-2006, 07:21 PM
Magneto needs something to get him to come out of his hole, I hope this is it.

Frodo-X
12-01-2006, 07:22 PM
Magneto needs something to get him to come out of his hole, I hope this is it.

Could be. I can't imagine he'd be thrilled with it...

SnakeEater
12-01-2006, 07:22 PM
that looks like Mcniven artwork judging by the goatee that guy has in the above panel. if anything is something to do with Issue 6 and the sentinels are out to take Captain america. I say this because when i used to read x-men it was said that all the current Astonishing xmen books since issue 13 take place months after CW. but who knows if thats true

jmc247
12-01-2006, 07:26 PM
Could be. I can't imagine he'd be thrilled with it...

I can't say I like how the character dissapeared off the surface of the Marvelverse in New Avengers 20.

Effect
12-01-2006, 07:28 PM
If anything will bring him out of the shadows then it's most certainly this. This does not make the pro side look good at all. These are the automatic Sentinels as well right? Meaning no mercy, no one human interpretation of an event.

Frodo-X
12-01-2006, 07:38 PM
I can't say I like how the character dissapeared off the surface of the Marvelverse in New Avengers 20.

Me neither. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if he stays gone for a while. Then he can make a momentous return when Uncanny hits #500.

jmc247
12-01-2006, 07:42 PM
Me neither. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if he stays gone for a while. Then he can make a momentous return when Uncanny hits #500.

You are talking about something that is basically 2 years away.

Having a character as important to the Marvelverse as Magento who by the way has his own movie coming up dissapearing for two years from the 616 universe while Wolverine is there each week in 2 or more issues of his comings and goings would piss me off big time.

People who talk about the character needing a long rest after House of M, seem to forget that Magneto didn't do all that much, didn't get one good conversation with Wanda or Lorna and got less then a third the lines as Wolverine did in the entire series. Hell, Magneto really hasn't had a real talk with Wanda or Lorna since the late 1990s and hasn't had a real conversation with most of the X-Men since the early 1990s.

ibrakeforchinwe
12-01-2006, 07:50 PM
I bet Tony activates the sentinels to hunt ALL anti-registration super humans.

Affinity
12-01-2006, 07:51 PM
Magneto's upcoming movie has nothing to do with his return. Fans cried "Jean Grey will be back just in time for X3 to hit theaters!" (Lol I was one of them, pre-CBR logic!) and what seemed to be a good move was never done.

jmc247
12-01-2006, 07:57 PM
Magneto's upcoming movie has nothing to do with his return. Fans cried "Jean Grey will be back just in time for X3 to hit theaters!" (Lol I was one of them, pre-CBR logic!) and what seemed to be a good move was never done.

Jean Gray is simply one character amoung many in the X-Men.

I am certain Marvel would have acted quite differently if it had been Jean Gray the movie.

Affinity
12-01-2006, 08:03 PM
Jean Grey's predicament was the entire plot of most of the movie --- it's not as if thirty minutes of her off screen was going to repel fans and keep them away from the books.

jmc247
12-01-2006, 08:05 PM
Jean Grey's predicament was the entire plot of most of the movie --- it's not as if thirty minutes of her off screen was going to repel fans and keep them away from the books.

Huh?

Jean Gray was simply Wolverine's love interest and Magneto's lacky in the movie.

Her role was quite relagated.

rwe1138
12-01-2006, 09:56 PM
I bet Tony activates the sentinels to hunt ALL anti-registration super humans.

That's what I thought of too. Way too many sentinels for less than 200 mutants. I wonder if these are piloted, or old school AI?

Effect
12-01-2006, 10:09 PM
Naturally they'd be for the anti-heroes. What I originally meant is that the very use and sight of them should invoke very strong reactions from mutants and the X-men. Especially with them filling up the sky like that. These things were used to hunt down mutants and now they are being pulled out again. Not for mutants but for heroes but some of those heroes have to mutants themselves. I just can't imagine them not having a very negative reaction toward them even if they weren't coming after them (mutants/X-men).

Metallurgique
12-01-2006, 10:24 PM
Whatever happens in Civil War, I'd really like to see something truly awful happen to Tony Stark.

This is the second major Marvel Crossover in as many years that looks like it will seriously damage the MU.

Not good, Joe, not good.

streator
12-01-2006, 10:44 PM
i think that page is a flashback or something similar (that entire issue takes place in the past; it sets up the cap/iron-man fallout for civil war).

i don't think it's a picture of the mu after civil war at all.

rwe1138
12-02-2006, 12:15 AM
Geez, go and be logical. Way to suck the fun out of the room. (;))

Effect
12-02-2006, 12:31 AM
i think that page is a flashback or something similar (that entire issue takes place in the past; it sets up the cap/iron-man fallout for civil war).

i don't think it's a picture of the mu after civil war at all.

That really sucks if that's the case. Guess they are really milking the Civil War if they are putting out entire flashback issues.

Pro
12-02-2006, 01:52 AM
maybe we misunderstood the 50 state initiative? Why bother with clones if you can have automatons?

In any case if this is happening now it would be utter bullshit if the x-men would sit back and let sentinels roam the sky. They know too bloody well the consequences of letting those machines roam free. Was Mastermold destroyed btw after Genosha was destroyed, i recall the sentinels just shutting down but don't recall Mastermold being dismantled properly.

Affinity
12-02-2006, 10:50 AM
i think that page is a flashback or something similar (that entire issue takes place in the past; it sets up the cap/iron-man fallout for civil war).

i don't think it's a picture of the mu after civil war at all.
Oh! You're probably right, I remember reading how the issue was going to be Cap and Tony throughout the years and how their opposing sides make sense in Civil War. So this could be back when the Sentinels were first implemented, or something of the sort.

Smart!

Ouchmaker
12-03-2006, 07:25 AM
Well, one of the other pics in the blog on the subject is about Cap and Iron Man talking/confronting eachothers, and a picture of Cap slapping a bottle of booze from Tony's hands is seen. Clearly pointing out a scene from the past. So it would make sense that this panel of Sentinels all over the place is the visual image of what Cap and Iron Man are talking about in the next panel in the same pic. Whether or not this happens during Civil War, or happened before it, remains to be seen. The Avengers Mansion is destroyed, so it takes place in the rather near past or present.

Erik Lehnsherr
12-03-2006, 05:01 PM
I can't say I like how the character dissapeared off the surface of the Marvelverse in New Avengers 20.

Don't worry about Lord Magneto. He's wormholed away until Uncanny #500's build up probably. And since Magneto is not concerned with American matters, the Civil War means nothing to one of his tastes anyway unless it affected Luna, Lornda, or Wanda.

Not to mention Civil War is about Tony Stark turning into a piece of trash right before everyone's eyes.

Erik Lehnsherr
12-03-2006, 05:12 PM
Whatever happens in Civil War, I'd really like to see something truly awful happen to Tony Stark.


Comments like this is why Civil War is damn near great. The ramifications of something NEEDING to happen to Tony always brings a huge smile to my face.:D