Bruce Wayne : The tarnished Knight

[invader]

Honestly bruce wayne is probally the most elusive billonare in comics but if dc were creative as they claim. Why did they not do a storyline about the gcpd and social services doing a investigation on the death of todd. If u were able to write the arc how would u have wrote it.

[invader]

This would allow readers a depeer look into the wayne life. It could better drive batman into his insanity. making him shun everyone else

[MBBWAYNE]

Bruce Wayne is a tarnished knight because seeing his parents die in front of him males him what he is today. Thats why Gotham City will always need a Batman.

[invader]

I don't me as batman being tarnished but the fact is todd is one of wayne's adopted son and todd's death should had been in the dc universe media. This would damage wayne's reputation as they should have done like 17 or 18 years ago. So it could have shown batman proving wayne innoncence and countless of possibilties of finding out who is the boy wonder. this could also have Wayne go to arkham or be pursued by gordon and the gcpd. What celerbity adopts achild and does not see them for over 7 years this would be a media crisis the boy wonder idenity would lead to batman almost being exposed

[invader]

Could u imagine if bruce wayne was pressed with murder charges or was put into custody. I maen how can u not noticed that robin and todd died at the same time.

[Damo]

This would allow readers a depeer look into the wayne life. It could better drive batman into his insanity. making him shun everyone else

That's unlikely to be a popular idea. I for one think it's a bad idea. We just had, oh, a dozen big stories about Batman being pushed into his insanity, shunning the people around him.

And FYI? We've already had stories with Wayne being investigated in light of Todd.

It's also pretty much years too late to be doing a story about the police noticing that Todd died and a Robin vanished in the same time frame.

[invader]

I am not talking about the publishung that kind of stories now but back then it would lighten up that dumb media frenzy back then

[phantom1592]

Did they mention it during Bruce Wayne: Murderer? That would have been a good place to dig up old bones.


One of my favorite stories was Robin III where the school counselor wants to know why Tim keeps having bruises on his face. She was trying to find out if Bruce hit him. Awesome Idea, since Robins don't wear much of a mask, it should have happened years ago.

[invader]

That's unlikely to be a popular idea. I for one think it's a bad idea. We just had, oh, a dozen big stories about Batman being pushed into his insanity, shunning the people around him..
I meant why he would have gone crazy since yhe establishment he helps is now against him

[DonC]

Why did they not do a storyline about the gcpd and social services doing a investigation on the death of todd.


Because he died about 12,000 miles away from Gotham City?

[Harding Prime]

Could u imagine if bruce wayne was pressed with murder charges or was put into custody. I maen how can u not noticed that robin and todd died at the same time.


I believe no one knew that Robin had died...

[kel25]

Because he died about 12,000 miles away from Gotham City?
That’s where Robin died. I don’t see Bruce saying that’s where Jason died.

He could have died anywhere on Earth and the media would have ate it up. Look are real media. They jump on the most trivial celebrity tidbits and cram it down the throats of even those that don’t care about it. Turning on the TV, glancing at a magazine rack, listening to the radio, or even looking at your homepage and you will have info of something stupid someone famous is doing. It’s been years since Princess Di died and yet I still see articles about her.

So the idea of Bruce not being in all the magazines because a young boy he is taking care of gets killed would be a media frenzy. Considering that he was badly beaten to death there would have been some kind of police investigation. Of course the tabloids would be running headlines like “Jason Todd Murdered By A Jealous Lover?”

Of course, comics media seems to be free of the three ring circus we have to really deal with. But still I feel the whole death of Jason Todd was botched. Their should have been investigations into why this kid was suddenly dead along with emotional recovery time for Bruce.

Of course DC botched again when they brought him back to life without any real direction.

[DonC]

That’s where Robin died. I don’t see Bruce saying that’s where Jason died.


I believe there was a line in the story about sending Jason's body home. So, again, the reason the GCPD and Social Services didn't launch an investigation was because Jason didn't die in Gotham City.

[invader]

still somebody would have press charges on bruce cause of the death bruce rep would have tarnished and someone like the fbi would have done the investigation.

[Damo]

I think Batman switched him out of the Robin costume and, as Bruce, was successfully able to say to the local police "we were searching for his long lost mother (hey, check that female corpse over there for Todd DNA ). And then, well, Joker happened".

I think "and then Joker happened" is pretty acceptable to most DCU law enforcement agencies, especially when there's clearcut evidence that Joker was happening all over the surrounding area, with Batman in hot pursuit.

[DonC]

still somebody would have press charges on bruce cause of the death bruce rep would have tarnished and someone like the fbi would have done the investigation.


Jason was killed, along with his only living relative, in Iran by the Joker. There was no one to press any charges against Bruce. And what would he be charged with, anyway?

Also, any US-based investigation would have had to have started with the Iranian government asking them to look into their deaths. Instead, the Iranian government appointed the killer their ambassador to the UN.

Bruce would have gotten pity, not tarnish, from the media. "Bruce Wayne suffered a tragedy today in Iran as his adoptive son, Jason Todd, was killed by the Joker while Todd and Wayne were searching for Todd's birth mother, a relief worker helping that war-torn nation. Mr. Wayne has asked for privacy in dealing with this tragic even and we are respecting his wishes."

[Harding Prime]

I think Batman switched him out of the Robin costume and, as Bruce, was successfully able to say to the local police "we were searching for his long lost mother (hey, check that female corpse over there for Todd DNA ). And then, well, Joker happened".

I think "and then Joker happened" is pretty acceptable to most DCU law enforcement agencies, especially when there's clearcut evidence that Joker was happening all over the surrounding area, with Batman in hot pursuit.


It seems that all the answers as its not recognized that Robin died, Todd died due to something that the Joker did in a weird Batman/Bruce Wayne coincidence connection, and everything else kinda shows that DC didn't mess up too much by not pushing Bruce Wayne with murder.

[invader]

Jason was killed, along with his only living relative, in Iran by the Joker. There was no one to press any charges against Bruce. And what would he be charged with, anyway?

Also, any US-based investigation would have had to have started with the Iranian government asking them to look into their deaths. Instead, the Iranian government appointed the killer their ambassador to the UN.

Bruce would have gotten pity, not tarnish, from the media. "Bruce Wayne suffered a tragedy today in Iran as his adoptive son, Jason Todd, was killed by the Joker while Todd and Wayne were searching for Todd's birth mother, a relief worker helping that war-torn nation. Mr. Wayne has asked for privacy in dealing with this tragic even and we are respecting his wishes."
Then they would find out todd is robin and would try to find connections between bruce bats and todd/robin

[Harding Prime]

Then they would find out todd is robin and would try to find connections between bruce bats and todd/robin

But still, no one in the media knows that Robin died!

[DonC]

Then they would find out todd is robin and would try to find connections between bruce bats and todd/robin


Okay, I don't know who "they" are, but the story clearly states Batman removed all traces of Jason's Robin costume.

[invader]

the fbi ok you won

[kel25]

Went back and reread the from the point where Todd dies. As Batman he removed all evidence of what happened and that Todd was Robin. Next, he changes back to Bruce and calls the cops. He spends most of the day telling them who the victims are and that he really doesn't know what happened.

Skip ahead to the funeral scene that seems to be kept very quiet. The line Alfred has makes it sound like Dick has no idea yet that Jason was killed. So it’s very doubtful the media knows anything at this time.

Overall the world should have no way to ling the death or connection of Robin with Todd. On the other hand the Joker most likely would. Eventually, there would be news paper articles about Jason Todds death and where it happened. The Bruce Wayne connection should be enough to push this in the spotlight of the media for sometime.

This info should have been enough to dot the lines and have the Joker realize that Batman is Bruce. Of course there is countless instances where a villain should be able to identify the hero but never does. So I guess this would just be another example of PIS.

[Harding Prime]

I don't think Joker recognized that Robin was dead, and when Tim came into the picture, Joker was perplexed because he thought he took out the runt...more then once.