THE IMMORTAL IRON FIST #1 - Review & Spoilers

[Sebastos]

So, did anyone pick up #1? It was so awesome! The art was great, Aja's work really fits well with the book, and Fraction and Brubaker did a great job with Iron Fist. They made him look like a dark badass. Full of Kung-Fu in him he was a definetly a force to immortal. The issue had plenty: kung-fu action, mystery, dark mood, etc. This was a solid issue and Brubaker, Fraction and Aja are doing an excellent job with the Immortal Iron Fist!

[Cayman]

Issue 1 was fistacular. Definitely excited for issue 2.

[Mariah]

Issue 1 is kung funkin' good! Aja is a dreamy creamfillerinmydonut good! I can't wait a month for issue 2 to come out:(

[drwho]

I got this coming in the mail. Like in past series is Danny still not trying to be iron fist and acting like a bitchy goth about the iron fist powers, or does he have his head together here?

[static]

this issue was everything that i hoped for !!! the art was drak and moody but gorgeous! the writing was nicely paced and gave enough mystery to keep me on the edge of my seat! a legacy of Ironfists ! ancient protectors of villages to opium addicted turn of the century warriors!@ cant wait for issue 2 !

[We R. Venom]

Jesus Christ now im gonna have to go to work just to buy these damn comics. I must add this to my list along with Mighty Avengers. Damn Marvel stealing my money.

Finally a Martial arts hero back where he belongs. Sweet Christmas!

[Tien Long]

Terrific book. Got my copy today. Love the concept of a legacy of Iron Fists, and the art was both dark and detailed yet action packed. Great fight scenes, great subplots, great delving into past continuity. Although I may disagree with some of Danny Rand's views towards modern day China expressed in the book, I can't wait for the next issue!

[Wannabe]

So I got the first issue today, and I loved it. Really shows a great mesh of action and story development.

The art is fantastic. Aja really draws some great action scenes, and is a fantastic storyteller.

[Sebastos]

Aja really did a kick ass job with the art. The action scenes where just amazing!

What did everyone think of Davos? It seems Steel Serpent is back!

[Adem]

Great first issue on all fronts. The whole creative team should be proud.

[gorthon616]

It was really good. Iron Fist had never been an interesting character for me (and probably not most), but this totally has made me enjoy the character.
Is this a new artist? He's good.

[Sebastos]

Great first issue on all fronts. The whole creative team should be proud.

Word. :cool:

[Sebastos]

It was really good. Iron Fist had never been an interesting character for me (and probably not most), but this totally has made me enjoy the character.
Is this a new artist? He's good.

Yes, though Aja has done some work, not really for an ongoing. He is an amazing artist in the making.

[Tien Long]

Is this Davos character someone new or already established?

[Expletive Deleted]

Davos is the Steel Serpent (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/steelserpentdavos.htm).

[Sebastos]

Is this Davos character someone new or already established?

Already established, I would belive Davos is Steel Serpent.

[Darkjoe1990]

I love what a great 50/50 rate Marvel has had as of late with re-vamps!

Iron fist, Union Jack, and Moonknight- GREAT

Blade, Ghost Rider(which sucks cause I like the character)- Passable

[Joe Rice]

Really? People liked this? Huh. I may have to try the second issue. Thought this was pretty dulltacular.

[Sebastos]

I love what a great 50/50 rate Marvel has had as of late with re-vamps!

Iron fist, Union Jack, and Moonknight- GREAT

Blade, Ghost Rider(which sucks cause I like the character)- Passable

Hell yes, the team on this book did a great job with the issue.

[Sebastos]

Really? People liked this? Huh. I may have to try the second issue. Thought this was pretty dulltacular.


I would say yes. The writing, art and what was given all made this book worth reading and buying. Iron Fist is definetly back in a better way.

[mandog]

Curse you bad weather Thou has kept me from my Iron Fist!!!

[tonearcher]

i've never read an iron fist book, but i will be reading these from now on. i agree about the lame revamps of blade.

[ultramandingo]

dang! fraction got me to get iron fist and the punisher ! hope he dont do a defenders book next

[Sebastos]

i've never read an iron fist book, but i will be reading these from now on. i agree about the lame revamps of blade.

I've read all of Iron Fist's issues, but this one is the best by far.

[Shonuff]

Really? People liked this? Huh. I may have to try the second issue. Thought this was pretty dulltacular.

While I wouldn't say the book was dull, I will say I didn't enjoy it as much as I expected to. I'm sure things will pick up for me in the next issue. I just hope Brubaker doesn't make Danny too dark.

[Haunt]

i think it'd be a more exciting read if he fought a more recognizable marvel villain. i understand why Davos (& i'm speculating Master Khan) has been reintroduced but he's going to get kind of boring after awhile. and Hydra is so overused it hurts. i'm just hoping that he eventually clashes with a more colorful/old school villain.

[Rich L]

I liked it a lot- and I like the idea of a line of Iron Fists; Marvel doesn't have legacies half as much as DC does.

[Mariah]

dang! fraction got me to get iron fist and the punisher ! hope he dont do a defenders book next
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!! I've never been a Fist or a Punisher fan, and now I'm getting both! That's KARAZINESS!!!

Doesn't Aja kinda remind you of a mixture of Yu and Coipel?

[static]

Aja reminds me of Lark and Maleeve...I am loving the "daredevil" feel of this book...kinda dark but human..street level ...dirty..but with a genuine soul not dark for the sake of dark..this has a total hip kung fu vibe running through it...

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm going to pick it up today I think. Aja's style is really different I think, in a good way.

[The Ineffables]

I was puzzled by one thing; Iron Fist's origin seems to preclude anyone else ever being Iron Fist (how many times can that serpent get killed, anyway?), and Power Man/Iron Fist #75 makes the case for there only ever being one. Is this a retcon, or sloppy editing?


www.theineffables.com

[Mariah]

I was puzzled by one thing; Iron Fist's origin seems to preclude anyone else ever being Iron Fist (how many times can that serpent get killed, anyway?), and Power Man/Iron Fist #75 makes the case for there only ever being one. Is this a retcon, or sloppy editing?


www.theineffables.com
It'd be a retcon, but a good one. The dragon's name is Shou-Lou the Undying. It would make sense if you killed it, it would come back to life.

[smoothjokes]

It'd be a retcon, but a good one. The dragon's name is Shou-Lou the Undying. It would make sense if you killed it, it would come back to life.

I loved this issue and the artwork. I've never been a huge fan of Iron Fist until Civil War came out and when Danny took-over Daredevil in Brubaker's run. The artwork was fantastic by David Aja, I could see him jumping over to Daredevil after this run on Iron Fist. I like the idea of previous Iron Fist's and Danny's Dad running away from the mantle.

Good writing from Brubaker and Fraction, they seem to know where they want to take this book. And Hydra is always a great villian to have in a book, there the modern day nazi's of the Marvel universe. I'll be back for issue 2. MAKE MINE IRON FIST!

[Jack]

Loved it. Probably my favourite book of the week.

[Young Avenger]

This is book of the week for me. Everything was fantastic.

[static]

yeah having the dragon named Shou-Lou the Undying kinda makes this "retcon" kinda a no brainer to rationalize...the idea of a lineage of Ironfists is freaking brilliant and its being done in an excellent way! they arent all perfect angels and at least one other is still alive...i cant wait for more!!!

[StoneGold]

Hey, how f'ing good is the artwork when you're ticked off it gets interrupted by Travel Foreman? David Aja is a god!



Seriously though, Foreman is amazing, it's just wow, Aja!!!

[Johnny Blaze]

Loved the art, I thought the story was pretty interesting. Not as good as I anticipated, but I'll be getting #2 for sure.

[Sebastos]

Hey, how f'ing good is the artwork when you're ticked off it gets interrupted by Travel Foreman? David Aja is a god!



Seriously though, Foreman is amazing, it's just wow, Aja!!!
Yes, the art was what made the book as well. Aja is for sure the right guy do be doing the art for the book. It just fits to well! :D

Who else liked how Brubaker and Fraction did Danny Rand though? I liked how they are showing what him being rich means to him. Such as having his own jets, boats, buildings, and of course Rand Corp. It was awesome.

[Magneto_X]

Blade, Ghost Rider(which sucks cause I like the character)- Passable

I got GR #1 and enjoyed it. They seemed to execute it extremely well. Blade has a good concept but is only mediocre in execution at best.

Marvel really needs to give Blade a noirsh, gritty, dark humoured writer---like Brubaker, Jenkins, Richard K. Morgan, Ellis, Grant Morrison or Ennis.

[Young Avenger]

What does Rand corp do?

[Sebastos]

What does Rand corp do?

I'm guessing it builds special tech for countries that need it the most. Like the RandTrack that involed trains Danny had in mind for China.

[mandog]

I braved the snow and went to my LCS today and damn was it worth getting out. what a great issue. I can already tell you my 3 favorite books are going to be Daredevil, Captain America, and Iron Fist if it keeps this level of goodness up (and I know it will)

[Den]

I was looking forward to this, big time, and it was good. There were way too many advertisements and that kind of ruins the flow of the story, but this book isn't alone in that. Still, Marvel really needs to cut down on those. I think I would have enjoyed it even more if I hadn't spoiled myself by reading previews and interviews galore before it.

I am not a big fan of kung fu heroes, I enjoy the occaisional marital art movie, but it isn't my gig. None of that matters when you get a good character you can admire, and I find myself admiring Danny Rand. He blows off money, a lot of money, based on principal. While he has some conflicts within, he doesn't seem practically imobilized by them. The action is good, I knew it would be, but better than the action is the over all attitude.

Hope we have the option of subscribing to this soon.

[Will.S]

Aja reminds me of Lark and Maleeve...I am loving the "daredevil" feel of this book...kinda dark but human..street level ...dirty..but with a genuine soul not dark for the sake of dark..this has a total hip kung fu vibe running through it...
Hmm, I'd say more early Jae Lee, a bit of Texiera and Maleev.

I very much enjoyed the issue and the sub-plot with Orson Randall is where it really took off. The intro with Bei Ming Tian was also good, I can't wait to see more Travel Foreman art which looked very bright and clean compared to the Aja's moodier art. While there is a bit too much Hydra going around, it seems that there's more to it than just them.

Then there's the whole Rand corporation (which I honestly didn't know he even had). I'm intruigued by it's function and how he deals with it in the day to day life, probably similar to Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne. BTW Doesn't Iron Fist have that restriction that he can't use the iron fist multiple times in a row?

[Haunt]

I got GR #1 and enjoyed it. They seemed to execute it extremely well. Blade has a good concept but is only mediocre in execution at best.

Marvel really needs to give Blade a noirsh, gritty, dark humoured writer---like Brubaker, Jenkins, Richard K. Morgan, Ellis, Grant Morrison or Ennis.

Blade's problem is that he's seen as a one-trick pony. he fights vampires and that's about it. when you know who his opponents are going to be, there are no surprises. you could destroy just about any character by having them fight the same villain continually. for instance, i'm getting quite tired of seeing Captain America fight nondescript Hydra goons.

[StoneGold]

Blade's problem is that he's seen as a one-trick pony. he fights vampires and that's about it. when you know who his opponents are going to be, there are no surprises. you could destroy just about any character by having them fight the same villain continually. for instance, i'm getting quite tired of seeing Captain America fight nondescript Hydra goons.
How about dudes with heads for chests?

[Mariah]

How about dudes with heads for chests?
ARNIMANIMANIM ZOOOLLLAAAAUUU!!! I love Arnim Zola! Tres cool old school villian.

[Cthulhudrew]

I was puzzled by one thing; Iron Fist's origin seems to preclude anyone else ever being Iron Fist (how many times can that serpent get killed, anyway?), and Power Man/Iron Fist #75 makes the case for there only ever being one. Is this a retcon, or sloppy editing?

From what I understand, the concept of multiple Iron Fists originated in Iron Fist vol. 2.

Steel Serpent's (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/steelserpentdavos.htm) entry here references it.

[brundlefly]

ARNIMANIMANIM ZOOOLLLAAAAUUU!!! I love Arnim Zola! Tres cool old school villian.

Much agreed. :D Glad to see him pop his head (chest?) up over in Cap.

[Mariah]

Much agreed. :D Glad to see him pop his head (chest?) up over in Cap.
I love the campy old school villians. I mean, the Marvel U is littered with thousands of them. Not everyone can be an agent of Hydra(which Bru is doing something with A.I.M. as well as M.O.D.O.K. soon) or an equally bad arse ninja dude. I love that he's treating them seriously, and using them in his stories. He is by far my favorite Marvel writer at the moment. And I have no doubt that Iron Fist will be a major success under him(way to tie it in to keep it on subject:p)

[The Ineffables]

From what I understand, the concept of multiple Iron Fists originated in Iron Fist vol. 2.

Steel Serpent's (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/steelserpentdavos.htm) entry here references it.

If memory serves, PM/IF #75 shows that Master Khan had set himself up as a god of K'un Lun and was using the Iron Fist legend to line up the city's finest warriors as blood sacrifices. Danny Rand actually beating the monster and becoming Iron Fist was a buggering of his plans; there had been no Iron Fist prior.

I just happened to read these issues a few months ago, being an Iron Fist fan from way back. I'm not opposed to continuity taking a beating in the service of a good story, but I would rather have seen a starting-from-scratch approach if this is a deliberate retcon.




www.theineffables.com

[Ed Brubaker]

If memory serves, PM/IF #75 shows that Master Khan had set himself up as a god of K'un Lun and was using the Iron Fist legend to line up the city's finest warriors as blood sacrifices. Danny Rand actually beating the monster and becoming Iron Fist was a buggering of his plans; there had been no Iron Fist prior.

I just happened to read these issues a few months ago, being an Iron Fist fan from way back. I'm not opposed to continuity taking a beating in the service of a good story, but I would rather have seen a starting-from-scratch approach if this is a deliberate retcon.


To be fair, that issue had major continuity problems in it, and conflicted with early issues of Iron Fist proper.

[ultramandingo]

ARNIMANIMANIM ZOOOLLLAAAAUUU!!! I love Arnim Zola! Tres cool old school villian.


if you dig evil type head villians - and who dont - check out matt fraction's " casanova" kinda like nick fury on airplaine glue fumes

[Jack]

To be fair, that issue had major continuity problems in it, and conflicted with early issues of Iron Fist proper.
Pfft. What do you know?

[Cthulhudrew]

I just happened to read these issues a few months ago, being an Iron Fist fan from way back. I'm not opposed to continuity taking a beating in the service of a good story, but I would rather have seen a starting-from-scratch approach if this is a deliberate retcon.

Well, like I said, the idea was first broached in Iron Fist v.2, even though (in an interview with Brubaker that went up on Newsarama today) he mentions having the idea independently and going in a different direction with it. So, retcon it may be, but it's one that precedes Brubaker and TIIF.

[Sebastos]

Pfft. What do you know?

Ed Brubaker, the writer of The Immortal Iron Fist. He knows what he's saying. Mr. Brubaker, I'd just like to say #1 was a great issue, and I can't wait for #2!

[Expletive Deleted]

I'm relatively sure Jack was being facetious.

[Sebastos]

I'm relatively sure Jack was being facetious.

Ok then. :D

[Sebastos]

Some of my favorite panels!

Panel 1 (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist3ag7.png)

Panel 2 (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist4kt9.png)

Panel 3 (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist5ot8.png)

Panel 4 (http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist6re9.png)

Panel 5 (http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist7ks1.png)

Amazing art.

[Magneto_X]

Blade's problem is that he's seen as a one-trick pony. he fights vampires and that's about it. when you know who his opponents are going to be, there are no surprises. you could destroy just about any character by having them fight the same villain continually. for instance, i'm getting quite tired of seeing Captain America fight nondescript Hydra goons.

Then you're not seeing the potential. 616 Blade, unlike the movie version, can take on the entire evil magical beasts in Marvel and even occasionally crossover with magical entities (Dr.Strange, Mephisto, Hannibal, Lilith, Dracula, Werewolf-By-Night, Ghost Rider, Loki, Black Knight [Dane Whitman] etc) and street levelers (Captain America, Daredevil, Iron Fist, the Punisher, Spiderman, Moon Knight, Luke Cage, Black Panther etc).

Blade is an interesting character whose potential has never truly been tapped. I'd also like to see him in non-magical situations to see how well he does i.e. space, underwater etc.

[StoneGold]

Some of my favorite panels!

Panel 1 (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist3ag7.png)

Panel 2 (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist4kt9.png)

Panel 3 (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist5ot8.png)

Panel 4 (http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist6re9.png)

Panel 5 (http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironfist7ks1.png)

Amazing art.
You might want to take it easy there. Those aren't panels, they're pages, and I believe there's something like a three page limit to keep us all from getting sued.

[christoph68]

:evilsmile
I was puzzled by one thing; Iron Fist's origin seems to preclude anyone else ever being Iron Fist (how many times can that serpent get killed, anyway?), and Power Man/Iron Fist #75 makes the case for there only ever being one. Is this a retcon, or sloppy editing?


www.theineffables.com


that was the one thing i didn't like about this new story.
in the old iron fist series there was only one iron fist and to get the power of shou lo [the undying] dragons heart [where the iron fist comes from]
you had to beat a gauntlet of other fighters and the winner got to go up against the dragon [who killed many who tried to defeat it]:eek:

danny rand was the first to kill the dragon and get to his heart [which was held in a cauldron in a cave that he protected].

this made the other kun lun dragon kings very mad and they tried to kill danny many times over the years.:evilangry

master khan is the dragon that took shou lo's heart out and in doing so cursed him as the undying dragon; so khan is no doubt envolved in this some how.

davos was danny's teachers son; [who lost to danny's father the first time in battle over the right to seek out shou lo] even though davos went up against the dragon with the knowledge of how to defeat him, he could not complete the task because he was unworthy so that's why davos has part of the dragon tattoo on his chest [minus the wings if you notice].

if anybody has a question let me know, i've got all the iron fist books!:evilsmile

[Jack]

I'm relatively sure Jack was being facetious.
You are correct sir! It's a fair bet that almost anything I say isn't serious. It's only comics, after all. I love 'em, but it's all about fun.

[Gordon Smith]

This first issue hooked me. I'll be back for more.

[Tre Styles]

This first issue had some mad flava and great writing. Aja's style is making me smile. This is one that I'll be following. About time Danny was written right. The legacy of the Iron Fists is tight as well, and the ending....has me more intriqued than ever.

"I am the Iron Fist. I hold back the storm when nothing else can."

Just awesome.:cool:

[Sebastos]

You might want to take it easy there. Those aren't panels, they're pages, and I believe there's something like a three page limit to keep us all from getting sued.

Is this true? If so, then i'll take them down. I was only just showing my favorite pages. :( I hope i'm not in trouble. :(


"I am the Iron Fist. I hold back the storm when nothing else can."

That line was awesome!

[Mjolnir]

this issue was extra awesome for me because i had just finished Essential Iron Fist the day before. you can really tell where Bru and Fraction did their research. flippin' cool, though it seemed a little short.

interesting to see who brought back Steel Serpent.

[StoneGold]

this issue was extra awesome for me because i had just finished Essential Iron Fist the day before. you can really tell where Bru and Fraction did their research. flippin' cool, though it seemed a little short.

interesting to see who brought back Steel Serpent.
At least there's no second person narrator. I hate those. Feel like someone is telling me what to do. "No, I'm not the Iron Fist, the guy with the funny collar is!"

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, the second person narration really pissed me off in Essential Iron Fist.

[Ravenheart]

I wasn't sure if I was going to get this or not.The first issue was pretty good but why over the last few years is it being revealed that so many heroes are part of something bigger.First it was Spider-Man and how he was related to the Spider Clan and now it turns out Danny Rand is just one in a line of people who have been Iron Fist.I'll probably keep picking this up for now to see where it goes.

[Sebastos]

I wasn't sure if I was going to get this or not.The first issue was pretty good but why over the last few years is it being revealed that so many heroes are part of something bigger.First it was Spider-Man and how he was related to the Spider Clan and now it turns out Danny Rand is just one in a line of people who have been Iron Fist.I'll probably keep picking this up for now to see where it goes.

As said before, it's cool to see that there were more Iron Fist's in the past and I can't wait to see their stories. It's def something to look forward to. Also for what to expect in #2, Luke Cage guest stars. Heroes for Hire!

[Fatguy]

Awesome, awesome first issue. Here's hoping Luke Cage shows up soon ;)

[Scott Taylor]

Great issue. i knew it was going to be good when I saw the first splash page. Wow, just wow.

[DouglasDanger]

Awesome. I am excited about the idea of an Iron Fist legacy. Perhaps the dragon is reincarnated or something. I really enjoyed this issue and cannot wait for more!

[Lanowar]

I almost forgot to post here, this was very good the idea of the Iron Fist being a legacy is just a new dimension to everything I read the Wizard article which showed the last 4 Iron Fist's and they all look like characters I would want to read about. Espically the one who was around during the War want to see what he's like.

[Karl J. Barnes]

For someone, such as myself, who never really got into all this Kung-Fu mystical jibber jabber and Iron Fist in specific, I have to say that I was blown away by the art and story. Since I'm not really up on Danny Rand and the Iron Fist aspect(though I do know some things about him, like friends and the basic origin), I like how Brubaker writes the basic origin in for first timers and seems to go deeper. Ilike how, it seems, that Brubaker is weaving Danny's story with that of his father,Oliver.

Will definitely be here next month Iron Fist #2!

[Sebastos]

For someone, such as myself, who never really got into all this Kung-Fu mystical jibber jabber and Iron Fist in specific, I have to say that I was blown away by the art and story. Since I'm not really up on Danny Rand and the Iron Fist aspect(though I do know some things about him, like friends and the basic origin), I like how Brubaker writes the basic origin in for first timers and seems to go deeper. Ilike how, it seems, that Brubaker is weaving Danny's story with that of his father,Oliver.

Will definitely be here next month Iron Fist #2!

Yeah, I liked that to. That it was supposed to be his father and then the events led Danny to have the Iron Fist power instead. Very well done.

And for those interested in #2 check out a preview for it in the thread dedicated to Immortal Iron Fist!

[ultimatespyder20]

I'm not at all familiar with Iron Fist, but I just might be reading this series from now on. Awesome stuff.

Alec

[Sebastos]

I'm not at all familiar with Iron Fist, but I just might be reading this series from now on. Awesome stuff.

Alec

Immortal Iron Fist and Punisher: War Journal are both great. Both had goos starts and were great reads. I think Iron Fist is back in a great way, the first issue was by far a great read. And I think it'll get better.

[rerun]

Excellent first issue.

I read this right after I read Batman Confidential, and it definitely made me appreciate the art.

Art and story are superb, and I love the idea of blending the past IF's. WOuld be cool in the future to see arcs centering on a specific IF.

[Sebastos]

Excellent first issue.

I read this right after I read Batman Confidential, and it definitely made me appreciate the art.

Art and story are superb, and I love the idea of blending the past IF's. WOuld be cool in the future to see arcs centering on a specific IF.

Seems the only Iron Fist from the past that stood out in #1 was Orson Randall. I think we will learn more about him in #3, because he is on the cover.

[C.O. Jones]

After all of the time and effort it takes to package a deal worth 10 bil, why only towards the end of it does Danny realize who he's doing business with?

[Sebastos]

After all of the time and effort it takes to package a deal worth 10 bil, why only towards the end of it does Danny realize who he's doing business with?

I was just as surprised that it was *Spoiler*















Mr. Wei-Go who has ties to Hydra. Should be interesting to see how it unfolds. I want to know what Danny is going to do now that he knows that Wei-Go is connected to Hydra.