Characters DC forgot about

[comicstar100]

I was talking with some friends about a few misc characters that haven't really been used in a while. Who are some of your guy's favorites? Triumph I really enjoyed, the idea of someone who was sorta passed over in legacy. I'm not sure if he will ever be used again since he could have been blown up with the JLA tower since he was still frozen. Harm from young justice I also really liked, he was sort of a deathstroke in training, he escaped hell and as far as I know he is still alive in the DCU but hasn't been used in years.

[Jack Zodiac]

More recently, Harm and Secret, Arrowette and Empress, and Traci 13 (barring her current appearance as a powerless snot in Dr. 13's mad continuity-dream).

Great old characters DC doesn't use often enough? Deadman. His last series was great, but sales sucked, and no doubt considering there was no force behind it. And Mark Merlin, who passed away in a Gotham retirement home off-panel. Also, despite his random appearances in Shadowpact, no one uses The Phantom Stranger well enough. DC's severely lacking in supernatural mystery books.

[Rob on the Job]

Dial H for Hero.

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[CYOTI]

More recently, Harm and Secret, Arrowette and Empress, and Traci 13 (barring her current appearance as a powerless snot in Dr. 13's mad continuity-dream). And also her appearance in 52.


Great old characters DC doesn't use often enough? Deadman. I think DiDio said that he traded Deadman to Vertigo, which has a Deadman series out by Bruce Jones.

[Jack Zodiac]

Where was this? Everyone in the Vertigo forum is telling me that the new book isn't connected to Boston or Rama Kushna in any way. And if that's true, then D Didi wasted a great character by giving him to someone dumb enough to let Bruce Jones strangle with his clumsy writing.

[CYOTI]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0607/01/dcnationpanel.htm

Apparently it was done to get Jonah Hex back. As for DiDio when did he become the head editor for Vertigo?

[rwe1138]

Dial H for Hero.

Dude, you need to read Will Pfiffer's H-E-R-O; one of the best series I've ever read. 22 issues (the first 6 of which are traded) with art by Kano, Leonard Kirk & Dale Eaglesham. Highest recommendation.

[Joe Acro]

Where was this? Everyone in the Vertigo forum is telling me that the new book isn't connected to Boston or Rama Kushna in any way. And if that's true, then D Didi wasted a great character by giving him to someone dumb enough to let Bruce Jones strangle with his clumsy writing.
I think I saw something about issue #2 or #3 having a cameo by Boston. But that's about the best we'll get.

Whatever happened to Kirby's robo-Deadman?

I wish DC had forgotten about some characters. Right now, though, they seem to be neglecting the Ray.

[Kara Zor El]

I miss Matrix. The Eradicator in Supes uniform. And Batmite!

[Bat-Mite]

More recently, Harm and Secret, Arrowette and Empress

I agree with anything that means bringing the YJ girls back. Harm and Slobo can stay in heck playing "My butt burns faster than yours" for all I care.

Others:

The Body - The main villain from Lapham's Batman run. Invasion of the Body Snatchers meets Clayface meets Ninjas. If there is anything cooler than that, it probably involves naked people and a jacuzzi.

Cain and Abel - Yes, I know the House of Secrets is the HQ of the Secret Six, but I want a horror anthology!

Morrison's Doom Patrol character - Danny, Dorothy, Jane and heck, throw in the Pollack characters too... except the extremely creepy doll thing. I hated and feared that thing.

Kirby's Newsboy Legion and Morrison's Newsboy army - In the perfect world, these two would meet and, and, and, and... IT WOULD BE GLORIOUS! Chop Suzy teaming up with Flippa Dippa alone makes me want to cry of happiness.

[Bat-Mite]

And Batmite!

Bat-Mite, to even my eternal surprise, actually does show up once in a while. He was in the last issue of Loeb's Superman / Batman.

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Recently:

Eradicator in his original suit (aka the cool one)

All of the Seven Soldiers

Arzael

Prometheus (a good Prometheus. None of that Hush's b**ch stuff.)

Speaking of the devil, Hush

Jason Todd? Actually, that's a good thing.

[Matthew E]

Windfall. From the Masters of Disaster, and later the Outsiders?

[Jack Zodiac]

Morrison's Doom Patrol character - Danny, Dorothy, Jane and heck, throw in the Pollack characters too... except the extremely creepy doll thing. I hated and feared that thing.

I'd love to see someone, even Johns, take a hand at a new Doom Patrol book with the current cast and slowly stir in Crazy Jane, Danny the Street, and maybe even Dorothy. Sure, without Grant behind them, they might not have the same steam, but those characters were interesting as all hell. Especially Jane and Danny.

[PFunk]

John Stewart.

[Cat-Scratched-Victim]

I miss seeing all the golden-age characters. I'd love to see an anthology title that covers them as All-Star Squadron and Young All-Stars did, about 20 years ago!

Beyond that, too many to list!

[Superboy Prime]

Matrix and Azrael would be my picks.

[Drink]

Spoiler.

At least to Batman.

[Damo]

Speaking of the devil, Hush.

HA! Good joke.

[Young Avenger]

Richard Dragon and Broze Tiger

[CYOTI]

Richard Dragon and Broze Tiger Thats really a suprise given that Dragon showed up in 52 and Bronze Tiger was in Checkmate.

[Jack Zodiac]

Richard Dragon and Broze Tiger

Well, if Rucka can drum up some noise, we might be lucky enough to see a new Suicide Squad book now that Rick and Ben are back in the game.

[Young Avenger]

Thats really a suprise given that Dragon showed up in 52 and Bronze Tiger was in Checkmate.

I don't read those books so I didn't know.

[Jack Zodiac]

I don't read those books so I didn't know.

That, and merely using the character in passing is hardly "remembering" them. Richard hadn't been used in any significance since Dixon's series, and Ben and Rick have only just returned, and for a short arc (though, there's a possibility of future use). Empress showed up in Infinite Crisis, Deadman was used as a guise by Faust in Justice League of America and has a cover appearance in the Vertigo book, and Phantom Stranger's been doing the recaps for Shadowpact, but none of those character have really been used for their potential in a long time.

[Calybos]

Check my avatar.

Plus, the Young All-Stars. And a heroic Infinity, Inc.

[bird]

i saw ambush bug was eating a bag of ch'ps in the 52 series! hopefully this is foreshadowing a return of the mighty ch'p! the greatest gl of all time!

oh please, oh please, oh please

[Jack Zodiac]

G'nort just showed up in Guy's mini-series, so there's hope!

[bird]

yeah i bought that one today but didn't get around to reading it. g'nort looks kinda creepy and thumbing through the issue i only saw 1 protruding nipple.

I overheard some funny chaykin bashing also, but this is off topic. sorry!

[Damo]

Eh, Bronze Tiger and Richard Dragon have been used pretty well by Rucka, Nunzio DeFilippis, and Christina Weir. The Dixon stuff has been retconned away, the original history returned, Dragon's hanging out in Nanda Parbat, and Tiger's got awesome new threads.
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[Superboy Prime]

i saw ambush bug was eating a bag of ch'ps in the 52 series! hopefully this is foreshadowing a return of the mighty ch'p! the greatest gl of all time!

oh please, oh please, oh please

That would be kinda cool. We got Egg Fu back, so why not. :o

[Beast]

Sam Simeon and Angel O'Day. Nice that they were added to the IC HC, but lets see them in the books again.

[JamesJesse]

Wally West.

[dancj]

Kirby's Newsboy Legion and Morrison's Newsboy army - In the perfect world, these two would meet and, and, and, and... IT WOULD BE GLORIOUS! Chop Suzy teaming up with Flippa Dippa alone makes me want to cry of happiness.
Bat-Mite - normally I agree with everything you say, but...

in a perfect world, the Newsboy Legion would be wiped from reality and forgotten for all time

[geordiesteve]

Bronze Tiger, because kung fu is officially cool again, Marvel have launched Iron Fist, and now would be a great time for a DC Kung Fu / martial arts type book.

Don't read 52, or checkmate either, but nice to hear they've been about.

Bloodwynd.

I second Triumph.

Nightwing - and not the gigalo that turned up One Year Later. Haven't been back to it since first issue, so I hope he's not still a tart.

[PastePotPete]

How about Anima? She was cool.

For villains: Savitar. He was awesome. But with the return of Prof. Zoom and the demise of the Speed Force I don't know if we're likely to see him again.

[rwe1138]

What happened to Argent?

[Kara Zor El]

Bat-Mite, to even my eternal surprise, actually does show up once in a while. He was in the last issue of Loeb's Superman / Batman.
Not enough though. I have the same toy as you have in your avatar by the way. He's hanging from one of my curtains.

[Kara Zor El]

Bloodwynd.

Wasn't he Martian Manhunter in disguise? So in a way is still around.

[powerforward]

geo force

the inferior five

kamandi

night force

jack knight

L.E.G.I.O.N

[rwe1138]

Wasn't he Martian Manhunter in disguise? So in a way is still around.

Yeah, but there is another character named Bloodwynd. J'onn was just pretending to be that guy. So the original is still in limbo, even though he showed up after J'onn impersonated him. That makes my head hurt. :(

[Bat-Mite]

the inferior five

Dumb bunny had a cameo and one line in Seven Soldiers Bulleteer.

L.E.G.I.O.N

Vril Drox, I believe, is appearing in Omega Men, but certainly wouldn't recommend that book.

[Lorendiac]

I've always been fond of the Swashbuckler. Michael Carter, nephew of the Golden Age Vigilante. Swashbuckler had no powers, but was deft with a quarterstaff. He teamed up with Batman against the Riddler in "Detective Comics #493" when Batman had followed the guy to Houston, Texas (Swashbuckler's home town). That was back in 1980. And as far as I know, that was his only appearance ever!

So he got to be a guest star in one quick story -- then he disappeared into limbo for the next 26 years and counting. That's about as obscure and forgotten as a hero can possibly get!

[the4thpip]

The PowerCompany - recent sitings were 1-panel guest shots of Witchfire in Shadowpact and Skyrocket in Birds of Prey. Oh, and I think they killed off that Manhunter in Manhunter. I want Josia Power back!

I also miss the Human Cannonball.

[Thnikkaman]

Bork shows up in this month's JSA Classified if you're interested.

[Rob on the Job]

I miss seeing all the golden-age characters. I'd love to see an anthology title that covers them as All-Star Squadron and Young All-Stars did, about 20 years ago!

Beyond that, too many to list!

I agree.

It would be nice if DC tied up the strings hanging form the incomplete All-Star/Young All-Stars series -- preferably by letting Roy Thomas write a 60-issue maxi-series.

[the4thpip]

Bork shows up in this month's JSA Classified if you're interested.
Cool. I have it, but was too busy with preparations for today's World AIDS Day to read it.

[Jack Zodiac]

He's fighting Son of Vulcan in it, so if anyone was going to say "I miss Son of Vulcan," which I doubt anyone was :p, he just appeared again, too.

[notintheface]

What about Jose Delgado aka Gangbuster from the Superbooks? I haven't seen him an anything in about a decade. I liked him because he was smart enough to fight criminals in actual riot gear as opposed to tights.

[tfresca]

How about Geoforce and Halo from the outsiders? I thought Geo Force would be a player still, like the Captain Britian of the DC Universe but with more personality. I miss Looker too. A female character actually aware of her sexuality.

[Hellstormer]

Acrata and those other 2 Spanish guys from Superman Annual 12, and a lot of the other 2000 Annual characters.

[Damo]

He's fighting Son of Vulcan in it, so if anyone was going to say "I miss Son of Vulcan," which I doubt anyone was :p, he just appeared again, too.

I was gonna say I missed Son of Vulcan... =*(

[Damo]

How about Geoforce and Halo from the outsiders? I thought Geo Force would be a player still, like the Captain Britian of the DC Universe but with more personality. I miss Looker too. A female character actually aware of her sexuality.

Didn't Looker die in ICk?

[Shem the Penman]

I agree.

It would be nice if DC tied up the strings hanging form the incomplete All-Star/Young All-Stars series -- preferably by letting Roy Thomas write a 60-issue maxi-series.

I liked some of the YAS characters, but Young All-Stars was bad enough to convince me that Roy Thomas no longer has any business writing comics.

Speaking of "young," what about the Young Heroes?

[Bat-Mite]

Didn't Looker die in ICk?

I think she showed up in 52, so probably not.

[dazzler_slave]

I think she showed up in 52, so probably not.
As far as I know, that is a new Looker in 52. She got her powers from Luthor. The original, sadly, died in IC.

For me, I miss:

Anima
Warlord: The real Travis Morgan has not been seen in years. (I don't count that mess of a recent title)
Maya
Sala
Aura, Hero, Sparx & the rest of the Ravers
Empress, Arrowette & Secret
Agent Liberty
Amethyst
Young Heroes
Matrix, Comet & Blithe
Dawnstar
Dolphin
Hawk & Dove
Halo
Sovereign Seven
Merayn
Jennifer Morgan
Owl Woman
Skyrocket & The rest of the Power Company
White Lotus
Soyuz
XS
Windfall
Zauriel

[rick]

Forget Vertigo, it was the National Lampoon that finally got the concept of Deadman right.....

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[Bat-Mite]

As far as I know, that is a new Looker in 52. She got her powers from Luthor.

Didn't she appear before the whole Luthor gives superpowers around thing?

[spideyrules99]

Here is a villain that I wish more would have been done with. The Wraith. I forget what issues he was in, but I read more about him in the old Gotham City Source book from the old Dc Rpg.

He was a kids whos parents were killed by cops the same night that Bruce Waynes paretsd were killed. He did some training and came back to kill cops. He was like an anti Batman. His goal was to kill James Gordan the cop who shot his parents.

I think he has been mostly forgotten about snice there is another villian with kinda the same backround.

[Mr. Kent]

There was this entertaining and messed up character from the Silver Age called The Weeper. I never heard of him before one of the collections I got (one of the 70s Crisis Crossover ones) I read a story where Batman teams up with--it's Bulletman, I believe. Joker teams up with Bulletman's foe the Weeper, who cries when he does evil things BUT HE STILL DOES THEM!
I thought this was soooo twisted--reminded me of Elmer Fudd in ol' Bugs Bunny toons ("Boo-hoo! Mr. Wabbit--I hope it didn't hurt too much when I killed you!") Now that Bulletman's been reinvented as Bulleteer, I'd like to see a new warped take on this old villain.

[Superboy Sr]

Deathwing
Black Zero
Blackwing
Flamebird
Mirage
Redwing
Linda Danvers
Prysm
Tempest
Aquagirl II
Jon Kent

[Hellstormer]

Yea I miss Tempest and Aquagirl, and even Lagoon Boy I feel like Aquaman's family is kinda getting shunted in the DCU.

[areacode212]

Arak, Son of Thunder

XS. She's gotta show up in Waid's Legion sooner or later, right? I'd like to think that Bart misses his cousin...

[Gozwald73]

The Heckler

L.E.G.I.O.N. (yeah I know Dox is appearing in Omega Men, but what about the rest of the team)

[Erebus]

I always thought Power Company was pretty cool.

[Santanico]

Terra II, who was in fact revealed to be none other than Terra I. Then they dropped that storyline completely right after that revelation, and now I hear they're introducing a new, unambiguously heroic (and therefore not as interesting) Terra. I was hoping a writer would pick up the dropped thread of Terra II's storyline at some point - perhaps have her show up in Titans or Nightwing or some such - but I guess it's never gonna happen now.

Also, a smattering of Batman characters (all, I believe, created by Alan Grant, for some reason): Cornelius Stirk, Vox, Witch (aka Samantha), and Anarky. Where the heck are they?

Oh, and lastly: has Johnny Sorrow been seen around lately? He strikes me as the kind of character who's ripe for a Vertigo reworking.

[Damo]

Here is a villain that I wish more would have been done with. The Wraith. I forget what issues he was in, but I read more about him in the old Gotham City Source book from the old Dc Rpg.

He was a kids whos parents were killed by cops the same night that Bruce Waynes paretsd were killed. He did some training and came back to kill cops. He was like an anti Batman. His goal was to kill James Gordan the cop who shot his parents.

I think he has been mostly forgotten about snice there is another villian with kinda the same backround.


...

He died at the end. That's why he's not used any more. Only one appearance because he didn't survive that first appearance.

It was a superb story, and frankly I don't ever want to see him again because it was a complete tale for him, with a begining middle and (very final) end.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Dial H for Hero.

http://www.socalcomics.com/hom162nmminus.jpg

I loved those characters. Ah, the good ol' times.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

My picks:

Superman Prime.
Darkseid (yeah, I know he hasn't been forgotten, but I want to see The God The Devil Prays To).
Rao.
Doomsday.

[Super-Skrull]

Sparx. She was sweet and for some reason I loved her design.

Geo-Force. I loved Geo-Force back in the glory days of the Outsiders and I really don't understand how, in the nostalgia wave that is riding high in the comics world, Geo-Force has slipped through the cracks. Powerful, noble, and cool.

Arrowette.
Flamebird.
I feel like both characters have way more potential and DC has just forgotten about them.

[rwe1138]

Oh, and lastly: has Johnny Sorrow been seen around lately? He strikes me as the kind of character who's ripe for a Vertigo reworking.

He showed up in JSA Classifieds, right before the Crisis. He's currently leading the Injustice League.

[Bat-Mite]

Flamebird.

Flamebird was supposed to appear in Beast Boy's Teen Titans West Coast (or East Coast, depending on where the real Titans are at the time); an idea that rears its head, gets inside the car of a stranger on the promise of candy and ends up in a shallow grave by the side of the road every few years.

I honestly don't know why DC likes to tease with Teen Titans the other coast just to kill it a few months later.

[Bat-Mite]

Double post.

[Matthew E]

One thing about this thread... I was at the DC Nation panel discussion at a comic convention in Toronto... was it just this year? Whenever it was. Anyway, I asked the panel just this kind of question, if DC actually kept track of their characters so that, at any given time, they'd be able to figure out what the current status was of any given character, no matter how obscure. The answer was that they've got a system where all the characters are divided up among the various editors in some kind of sensible way, and they've got files on all the characters so they know not only where all these characters are, but what they're doing, and what they're supposed to look like, and everything. And I was assured that this was true for all of DC's characters, no matter how obscure. (And, having seen some of the characters dragged out of the mists of time for use in Infinite Crisis and 52, I believe it.)

So if there's someone who it seems like DC's forgotten about, it's really just that DC doesn't feel like using them at the moment.

[Toreador]

Bloodwynd
Mark Shaw Manhunter
Will Payton Starman
Halo
Katana
Nightforce

[spideyrules99]

...

He died at the end. That's why he's not used any more. Only one appearance because he didn't survive that first appearance.

It was a superb story, and frankly I don't ever want to see him again because it was a complete tale for him, with a begining middle and (very final) end.

I forgot all about that. Oh well. it would have been nice to see him a bit longer before he died.

[Shawn Carman]

I have a thing for failed team books, I'm afraid.

I miss Power Company, as several others have said. I think I'm the only person who dug Superboy & the Ravers, although honestly I think a lot of that had to do with Hero, and the recent Dial H series gave me my fill of that. I am also quite certain that I was the only one who really, really enjoyed that whole Bloodstorm (was that the name? the big Annual crossover with the alien parasites that drank spinal fluid and created metahumans) event from years and years ago. I think several characters that came out of that were very interesting, but I'm pretty sure the entire Blood Pack was wiped out in one panel of Infinite Crisis.

[DoubleWide]

Will Payton "Star Man";
The Human Target (The Vertigo series was terrible);
Gun Fire;
Captain Carrot and His Amazing Zoo Crew;
Sinbad from the Super books;
Lapis from Team Titans.

[rwe1138]

Bloodwynd
Mark Shaw Manhunter
Will Payton Starman
Halo
Katana
Nightforce

Mark Shaw was a major player in Marc Andreyko's Manhunter.
Katana joined the Outsiders just a little before Infinite Crisis, and is still with the team.

[Bat-Mite]

Captain Carrot and His Amazing Zoo Crew

Shhhhhhh! Geoff Johns might hear you!

[dancj]

The Human Target (The Vertigo series was terrible);
Wow - I think that might just be the wrongest anyone's ever been on these boards!

[kirkindenver]

Anyone remember The Inferior Five? Touted in the 1960's as the worst super team in comics. Even today they make Marvel's Great Lakes Avengers look like geniuses!!

[Gozwald73]

I have a thing for failed team books, I'm afraid.

I miss Power Company, as several others have said. I think I'm the only person who dug Superboy & the Ravers, although honestly I think a lot of that had to do with Hero, and the recent Dial H series gave me my fill of that. I am also quite certain that I was the only one who really, really enjoyed that whole Bloodstorm (was that the name? the big Annual crossover with the alien parasites that drank spinal fluid and created metahumans) event from years and years ago. I think several characters that came out of that were very interesting, but I'm pretty sure the entire Blood Pack was wiped out in one panel of Infinite Crisis.

It was Bloodlines

Speaking of fanboy of failed teams - I loved L.E.G.I.O.N.; Primal Force; and Soveriegn 7.

[theDizzler]

I'd have to say Azrael has massive potential and is way under used. He needs a full re-telling, Just like Moon Knights new series.

[the4thpip]

Anyone remember The Inferior Five? Touted in the 1960's as the worst super team in comics. Even today they make Marvel's Great Lakes Avengers look like geniuses!!

Characters based on them showed up in a panel in Villains United.

[Hellstormer]

I have a thing for failed team books, I'm afraid.

I miss Power Company, as several others have said. I think I'm the only person who dug Superboy & the Ravers, although honestly I think a lot of that had to do with Hero, and the recent Dial H series gave me my fill of that. I am also quite certain that I was the only one who really, really enjoyed that whole Bloodstorm (was that the name? the big Annual crossover with the alien parasites that drank spinal fluid and created metahumans) event from years and years ago. I think several characters that came out of that were very interesting, but I'm pretty sure the entire Blood Pack was wiped out in one panel of Infinite Crisis.
Yea Geist was really cool but he kinda vanished lat I saw him was in the triumphant tea shot in Villian's United special.

[drmcnutt]

'Mazing Man

Ronnie Raymond Firestorm

[Tequilamokinbrd]

Well, I don't miss this character, but I sure do wonder what she's up to and why none of the DCU heroes ask more questions about her.



Faith.




She shows up in JLA, and is made a member with little to no questions asked about her background. She works for some shady government agency that is never specifically named. The only credentials she has is that Batman worked with her on a mission once and apparently trusted her.



Only problem with that is that one of her powers is to gain the trust of those around her. She claims that it's something that happens naturally and that she can't help it, but I refuse to believe that Batman would just take her word for it and not investigate further. Something sounds amiss there.

And if something is amiss then fine, maybe she's really a villian plotting to gain the trust of the heroes only to destroy them, yeah ok whatever I can live with that.

But DC for god knows what reason, gave us all this mysterious backstory for her and then just stopped using her(except for group hero shots like in the villians united special).

Why make her so mysterious if she's not worth anything? Just say that she got her powers from some meta-human experiment and she's on the run or something and call it a day.



Everytime I think about Faith I just get upset.

[Bat-Mite]

Faith is appearing right now in the current JLA Classified story. Her backstory remains as unexplained as always, and I think they only took her along because they were going to South America, and they needed a Latina for their street cred.

[TommyV]

Well, I don't miss this character, but I sure do wonder what she's up to and why none of the DCU heroes ask more questions about her.



Faith.




She shows up in JLA, and is made a member with little to no questions asked about her background. She works for some shady government agency that is never specifically named. The only credentials she has is that Batman worked with her on a mission once and apparently trusted her.



Only problem with that is that one of her powers is to gain the trust of those around her. She claims that it's something that happens naturally and that she can't help it, but I refuse to believe that Batman would just take her word for it and not investigate further. Something sounds amiss there.

And if something is amiss then fine, maybe she's really a villian plotting to gain the trust of the heroes only to destroy them, yeah ok whatever I can live with that.

But DC for god knows what reason, gave us all this mysterious backstory for her and then just stopped using her(except for group hero shots like in the villians united special).

Why make her so mysterious if she's not worth anything? Just say that she got her powers from some meta-human experiment and she's on the run or something and call it a day.



Everytime I think about Faith I just get upset.

Me too. The way this character was dropped with no explanation has bugged me to no end. I thought "Hope" in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel was her, but no dice. THAT would've been great - a missed opportunity.

[Hellstormer]

Me too. The way this character was dropped with no explanation has bugged me to no end. I thought "Hope" in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel was her, but no dice. THAT would've been great - a missed opportunity.
I forgot about her, last time I saw her was in the Tenth Circle, she seemed cool.

[shanejayell]

Anyone remember The Inferior Five? Touted in the 1960's as the worst super team in comics. Even today they make Marvel's Great Lakes Avengers look like geniuses!!

I'd also like to see them, idealy done by Phil Fogilo, who did a Angel & the Ape mini with them. It was a RIOT!

[Apathy Boy]

Wow - I think that might just be the wrongest anyone's ever been on these boards!Yeah, I'd go so far as to say HUMAN TARGET was one of the two best books Vertigo has ever produced, along with HOUSE OF SECRETS. Brilliant reconception of the character, and one of the cruellest (and funny!) series finales ever.

Characters I miss:
-Vext, who'd be a natural for a cameo appearance somewhere
-Jack Knight's supporting cast. Strangely enough, I think the only one we've seen regularly is the Prince Gavyn Starman. The Shade made an appearance in "Archer's Quest" and JSA, Bobo made an appearance in CATWOMAN, but other than that, I don't think anyone else has been seen since the series ended.
-Travis "Bloodhound" Clevenger, though I think there may be some ownership issues there.

[Rio_de_Janeiro]

especially baby boom!

[Toreador]

There's also a lot of villians that DC doesn't use regularly as well:

Multiplex
White Tiger
The Untouchables
Bolt
Deadline

OT I liked the original Shade The Changing Man by Steve Ditko. Wonder if he could be used or if the Vertigo version is the official version now.

[Amethyst Rose]

I'd say Amethyst, but she appeared in IC, and I seem to remember reading somewhere that DC has some kind of plans for her. Maybe they can undo the "no longer Amy Winston" bit, as I think the series jumped the shark tank when they did that. Once she cut her ties to her life as Amy, I knew she wasn't going to be around much longer. Unless, of course, they have some good, sensible ideas of their own...

[Shem the Penman]

There's also a lot of villians that DC doesn't use regularly as well:

Multiplex
White Tiger
The Untouchables
Bolt
Deadline

OT I liked the original Shade The Changing Man by Steve Ditko. Wonder if he could be used or if the Vertigo version is the official version now.

Multiplex dropped in for an issue or two in the current Firestorm series.

As for Shade, I don't think it would be too hard to revive the Ditko version, given that the Vertigo version had very little to do with the original's continuity.

[Bat-Mite]

Actually, the Vertigo one followed the original's continuity. Shade visits Meta once or twice, and Shade's girlfriend Mellu shows up too.

[rwe1138]

There's also a lot of villians that DC doesn't use regularly as well:

Multiplex
White Tiger
The Untouchables
Bolt
Deadline

OT I liked the original Shade The Changing Man by Steve Ditko. Wonder if he could be used or if the Vertigo version is the official version now.

Multiplex showed up in Villians United and (sort of) the new JLoA. Bolt was in Identity Crisis & Teen Titans #20. I think Deadline is dead. (For now.) I seem to remember him biting it in the Joker: Last Laugh crossover issue of Geoff John's Flash.

[Tequilamokinbrd]

Didn't Deadline die in that sweet Deadshot mini by Cristos Gage?

[Toreador]

Actually, the Vertigo one followed the original's continuity. Shade visits Meta once or twice, and Shade's girlfriend Mellu shows up too.


Read the Shade article on wikipedia and it seems that both Shades existed in the DCU at the same time. [unless the writer of the article has it wrong]

[Bat-Mite]

Not at the same time. The classic Shade joins the Suicide Squad, which pretty much puts him directly in the DCU, but this was before the Vertigo series started. If you want to win a No-Prize, you can say that one was just a creation of the Madness Vest and not the real Shade, or you can say that was the real Shade but before he started his Vertigo adventures. Both fit.

[Candyland_Assassin]

Arzael

I have a feeling they're going to bring him back in a big way, either as a hero or villain, but it'll be cool.



Prometheus (a good Prometheus. None of that Hush's b**ch stuff.)

Agreed!

[rwe1138]

Prometheus was in the OYL arc of Birds of Prey, back to his ass kicking self. He even took down Lady Shiva. No more of this "Hush's bitch" crap.

[Heraclevs]

Early in Geoff Johns' run on JSA, The Council... who had appeared to buy the farm thanks to a dying Paul Kirk (Manhunter) way back in Detective 443 (1974?), made a comeback. This time, they cloned the Sportsmaster. Anyway, Mykros, the leader of the Council, is back from the apparent death mentioned earlier, and much younger now. He has two daughters, hyped up with the same stuff that made Paul Kirk so special. One daughter, Nemesis, has a conscience that won't let her follow in her dad's evil ways. The twin, however, is nasty like her old man.

All of this happens in JSA Annual #1, from year 2000. Has anything been done with Nemesis and the Council since then?


- Romans 9

[Buried Alien]

The old Marvel Family foe King Kull hasn't been seen anywhere since before CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[dupersuper]

Nemisis showed up briefly in the JSA Our Worlds At War special, and maybe had about 1 or 2 other brief cameos, then got killed by Eclipso in the Black Reign story. I would've liked to have seen her meet Power Companys' Kirk Depaul myself...

[Lorendiac]

Here's one that suddenly popped into my head -- I don't think she's been mentioned in this thread before. The Contessa Erica Alexandra del Portenza.

She was a regular in the Superman titles for a few years in the 1990s. She bought a controlling interest in LexCorp, then married Lex Luthor, got pregnant, gave birth to his child Lena . . . then Lex naturally had her kept under sedation so she couldn't give him any more trouble. She escaped, and then some missiles blew up which Lex hoped had killed her, but we have no solid reason to think that happened. (No corpse was found, identified, autopsied, and buried, for instance.) There were previous hints that she might be immortal (or at least, much older than she looked, whether or not "immortal" is a fair description). I don't recall, offhand, whether she was ever legally declared dead. If she wasn't, and if she comes back, she'd still be Lex's lawfully wedded wife. Or if he died, she'd be his widow and could probably inherit a bundle!

[Heraclevs]

Nemisis showed up briefly in the JSA Our Worlds At War special, and maybe had about 1 or 2 other brief cameos, then got killed by Eclipso in the Black Reign story. I would've liked to have seen her meet Power Companys' Kirk Depaul myself...

Yeah... that would have been good. Too bad they're BOTH gone now. Although, since they were clones... it doesn't have to be permanent.

Thanks for the quick reply!



- Romans 9

[marshal99]

There's also a lot of villians that DC doesn't use regularly as well:

Multiplex
White Tiger
The Untouchables
Bolt
Deadline

OT I liked the original Shade The Changing Man by Steve Ditko. Wonder if he could be used or if the Vertigo version is the official version now.

Multiplex is suppose to be dead , having been killed by Parasite who absorbed all his life force killing all his duplicates but somehow , he appeared in the new firestorm series.

Bolt was cool , but it was kinda lame the way he went out to a couple of punks with guns in IC.

[Shem the Penman]

Actually, the Vertigo one followed the original's continuity. Shade visits Meta once or twice, and Shade's girlfriend Mellu shows up too.

And the Vertigo version also dismissed the Ditko series as a hallucination Shade had while crossing the Area of Madness. I don't really consider borrowing some characters and concepts from the Ditko series (Meta, the M-Vest, Wizor, Mellu) to be following the original's continuity, especially since many of them -- Mellu in particular -- were handled very differently in the Vertigo series.

[Bat-Mite]

In what issue is the original version dismissed as a hallucination? I have the entire run, and I don't remember reading that. Mind you, it doesn't sound like the kind of thing I would pay a lot of attention to, so I am asking to check that.

[rwe1138]

Multiplex is suppose to be dead , having been killed by Parasite who absorbed all his life force killing all his duplicates but somehow , he appeared in the new firestorm series.

Bolt was cool , but it was kinda lame the way he went out to a couple of punks with guns in IC.

Bolt's not dead. He's with the Society in Villians United.

[Xero]

Bloodwynd, I'd like to see DC have him show up in the ruins of Bludhaven. He's a necromancer who gets his powers from death energy, so why wouldn't he hang around places where a lot of people have died?

[Shem the Penman]

In what issue is the original version dismissed as a hallucination? I have the entire run, and I don't remember reading that. Mind you, it doesn't sound like the kind of thing I would pay a lot of attention to, so I am asking to check that.

I'll have to dig my own issues out. All I remember at this point is that it was fairly early in the run, and that it was only mentioned very briefly. It read to me as if Milligan just threw in a few lines to shut up the continuity types who'd been asking in the letter columns how this version meshed with Ditko's -- not something he considered particularly important or worth spending much time on.

[witchboy]

I miss Linda Danvers like crazy . I 'd love for her to be back starring in her own title , or barring that , serving as new Supergirl 's mentor and guardian . Tempest should join Outsiders and come out as being gay . He could have an affair with Obsidion.
XS should be in the Legion .

[David O Burcham]

Rima the Jungle Girl.