Mignola on Ebay?

[parrish]

I've been seeing this pop up on ebay a couple times without selling and its on there again.

I'm not an expert on Mignola sketches but does it look a little off to anyone else?

Mignola Sketch (http://cgi.ebay.com/HELLBOY-Mike-Mignola-Original-Art-RARE_W0QQitemZ170054850206QQihZ007QQcategoryZ14010 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


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[Maija]

Hee hee. The "I'm a little teapot" sketch. :)

It has been questioned before, but verified as genuine (unless it's a photocopy of course).

Buy it now: $899.99? 'E's dreamin'.

[Eric Lofgren]

I saw that here about two years ago and I swore up and down it was not genuine. I guess it was a quick convention sketch :)

[parrish]

Well, at least I am not the only one who thought it looked a little different.

...and for the price he is asking, it'll probably be up there a couple more times...

[lerochelle]

Been there three times in the past month alone. He keeps putting it back up for the same price.

Probably hoping to snag the right sucker....

[parrish]

Yeah. Its still not as bad as this one.


HELLBOY Original GERMAN KROENEN Art by Mike Mignola
(http://cgi.ebay.com/HELLBOY-Original-GERMAN-KROENEN-Art-by-Mike-Mignola_W0QQitemZ270047640954QQihZ017QQcategoryZ97 2QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem)

[Maija]

Yeah. Its still not as bad as this one.


HELLBOY Original GERMAN KROENEN Art by Mike Mignola
(http://cgi.ebay.com/HELLBOY-Original-GERMAN-KROENEN-Art-by-Mike-Mignola_W0QQitemZ270047640954QQihZ017QQcategoryZ97 2QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem)What the crap?

HAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, that Iron Cross mat is worth at least $1000.:rolleyes:

[Mike Cross]

I like Mike Mignola's art, but a head sketch and a signed card are not worth $1500..honestgrader needs an honest kick in the head..good try though.

[hellboyone]

What the crap?

HAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, that Iron Cross mat is worth at least $1000.:rolleyes:

It'll go great with my autographed Mein Kampf. :p

[Atomica]

Its REAL!!!

I own it, and Im selling it... its from way back, one of the first commissions he did of Hellboy, email me for infomation at:

angelo@atomicacomics.co.uk

http://www.invincibleironman.com/hellboypp.jpg

Cheers,
A

[Atomica]

Hee hee. The "I'm a little teapot" sketch. :)

It has been questioned before, but verified as genuine (unless it's a photocopy of course).

Buy it now: $899.99? 'E's dreamin'.



It cost originaly $1000, so I aint dreamin'

[Atomica]

Sold!

:)

[dogboy443]

Found this convention sketch on ebay...cool.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mike-Mignola-Two-Face-original-art-Hellboy-Batman_W0QQitemZ280054734659QQihZ018QQcategoryZ972 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mk

[parrish]

Saw this (http://cgi.ebay.com/MIGNOLA-Batman-Legends-of-the-Dark-Knight-splash_W0QQitemZ180060262842QQihZ008QQcategoryZ398 5QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) there this morning. Wow.

[dogboy443]

Crikey!!! What a beautiful piece. I figured all of those old Mignola's were locked up in vaccuum sealed vaults. SWEEETT!

Mark

[Eric Lofgren]

Saw this (http://cgi.ebay.com/MIGNOLA-Batman-Legends-of-the-Dark-Knight-splash_W0QQitemZ180060262842QQihZ008QQcategoryZ398 5QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) there this morning. Wow.

Good lord, what a beaut.

[honestgrader]

Hey guys! I guess I should be thankful many of you check out my auctions. I just wanted to respond to what some of you are saying about the Kroenen sketch I had listed.

I had one just like it that got bid up to and sold for $1,000 about a year ago. So it was natural for me to think that is what the market was on pieces like this. I know it's absurd. I couldn't believe the last one sold for that.

Whenever you list something in your Ebay store it helps to put "Make offer" on your item. Now, I have tons of people give stupid offers on my stuff (A Basil Gogos signed and numbered edition someone made an offer of $40 on it....now it sells for easily $100 to $150 but someone had to make that stupid offer on it for some reason). So if I had put the Kroenen art at $500 or $700 someone would surely offer me $100 for it. So I placed $1500 on it thinking someone is going to make the fair offer it deserves and not the stupid offer of $100. I know it isn't going to sell for $1500....but someone could offer somewhere in the neighborhood of what I want for it and I would take it. Kroenen art by Mignola is next to impossible to get. I know because I hear people ask ALL the time and Mignola graciously says no. The only reason he did it for me was I spent $3k with him. So for that "free" sketch someone has to pay through the nose to get one. Now I know that "matted cross" isn't going to fetch a thousand dollars as one suggested...but that art isn't worth only $100 either. I would think somewhere inbetween. And for those of you who might say that "geez, he made money on the art he bought from Mignola" that isn't necessarily true. I had one piece I spent $2,000 on and I sold it for $2,000. Minus Ebay, pay pal fees, and listing fees I sold it at a loss. (This doesn't even take into account the $350 flight to San Diego, $300 for car, $400 for hotel, etc etc etc) So again that "free" sketch isn't so free....it was just bought to get a sketch of Kroenen.

Not sure why I responded here. I just didn't want everyone out there thinking I am some sort of rip off artist. I care about what others think despite many thinking I am a scalper. I travel to many shows and buy lots of art for not only myself but other art pages to sell too.

Take care everyone and Merry Christmas to you all! See you at the next con or on Ebay! Give me an e-mail sometime!

HONESTGRADER

[Jake Capps]

I recently bought an item from this seller off ebay, and he was not pleasant to deal with. He doesn't pack items very well either. So "Buyer Beware"!

http://cgi.ebay.com/MIKE-MIGNOLA-HELLBOY-Original-Art-Skeleton-Pirate_W0QQitemZ280222087311QQihZ018QQcategoryZ972 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HELLBOY-HYDRA-LION-Original-Art-Page-2-Mike-Mignola_W0QQitemZ280222088766QQihZ018QQcategoryZ97 2QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Mike Cross]

Jake, if nothing else, you paid excellent prices for those 2 pieces.

[Todd H]

Sorry to hear that Jake but thanks for the heads up. I was going to go for the pirate piece.

[Asa]

I have bought many Items from him, I agree he is not pleasant to deal with, he doesn't give feed back, I paid postage for something he should have reimberst me for, and shipping took forever sometimes. Each one of the drawings came packed well, and I always got insurance. I would Beware.

[Jake Capps]

No those are new items that I saw today. I don't own them, and I would never give him my money again. I just know that my fellow board members would want these, but I wouldn't want you to go through the hassle of dealing with him. So bid with caution.

[parrish]

That is the same seller that wanted 1000 dollars for the Kronen head sketch (the kind that people get for free at cons) because it was in a nice frame.

[hellboyone]

Those two pieces are nice though. Probably will be hard to resist despite the crappy seller.

[Neil Hill]

Who's the seller, Jake? I don't have access to eBay from work.

[parrish]

He is honestgrader. I'll dig up the old thread.

[Neil Hill]

He is honestgrader. I'll dig up the old thread.

Really?! That surprises me a bit. This guy always seems to have new Hellboy pages, provides a nice large scan, and with a name like honestgrader, how could you go wrong? Thanks, Jake. I'll know to avoid this guy if and when the opportunity presents itself.

[parrish]

This is the old link where he actually came on and posted his defense of asking 1K for a free head sketch. its the last post.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=153970

[Asa]

This is the old link where he actually came on and posted his defense of asking 1K for a free head sketch. its the last post.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=153970

That is a very interesting post to read! I did get all my packages packed well, so there was no need for me to contact him. There was something about not leaving feed back that got me. He also made a mistake and needed to contact me. If I don't need to talk to a seller I am happy. He never combined shipping.
He claims to combine shipping.

[Nick W]

Well, I know that when contemplating the purchase of a piece of art, especially a Mignola, the first thing I look at is always the frame. And at least he waited a whole entire week after buying them from Mike to throw them on ebay. :biggrin:

N

[parrish]

What really bothers me about it, is:


So for that "free" sketch someone has to pay through the nose to get one.

The two times I have met Mignola, he has never had anything to buy. Both times I got a sketch.

[Asa]

I am curious as to what his buy it now price was. Yup, looks like he bought it recently at NYCC.:eek: . To think I got page 5, and I know what I paid for it.

Parrish, You are a lucky guy!

[DannyBoy7783]

His defense of the kroenen art made sense even if it was over priced. I've made bs offers on stuff myself and had responses that turned me down saying they sold the same item before for much more. I have no doubt people do pay idiotic prices for stuff.

But if he cuts corners to swindle people on ebay then I say we burn him alive! Negative feedback isn't enough of a punishment for some of these folks.

[Nick W]

Not to open up this can of worms again, but there is no excuse for taking a sketch that Mike or any artist did for free (I don't care how much art was bought) and trying to make a profit off of it. And there are other Kroenen con sketches floating around out there. Do not quote me on this, but I have a feeling that if you ask nicely enough Mike would draw a quickie sketch of most of his creations. If it was me though, I'd be much more wary of doing a free sketch for someone if I got the feeling that it was going to be ebayed as soon as the person got it home. Don't get me wrong, ebay has been a great help to me as both a buyer & a seller, but like anything good, there will always be people that abuse it and screw things up for everyone else. Because of people like him, many artists refuse to do sketches any more or charge high prices for them. And if you look at his other auctions, you'll see that the majority of his items for sale are convention freebies that he got signed. So basically he goes to a show with the intent of getting an artist to do a sketch or sign things (usually for free) so that their value will be increased. So other than travelling to a convention, which most people do for fun, he makes a living off of other peoples abilities and names, while doing nothing. Sounds kind of like a leech to me... :rolleyes:

Excuse me while I step off of this bully pulpit...

N

[Asa]

Looks like he is selling Lou Forigno autographed cards, Yup and they were free.
He was there at the con. I didn't stand on the line for the autograghed card but he(Lou Forigno) was there.:eek:

[Nick W]

I guess this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320266507257&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT&ih=011) answers the age old question of "Is a quicky Kroenen con sketch worth a grand?" :tongue:

N

[Pangaea]

I recently got a sketch from Guy Davis at the Heroes Con for free, granted, a Guy Davis sketch probably wouldn't go for a large amount, why the hell would I ever want to sell a drawing of Abe Sapien saying "Cheers Justin!" while thinking of a grand piano?! That's something to keep forever.

[Jake Capps]

I guess this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320266507257&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT&ih=011) answers the age old question of "Is a quicky Kroenen con sketch worth a grand?" :tongue:

N

I hate this! This is the kind of crap that ruins it for everyone. Although as a joke I once asked Mike to "make it out to ebay".

[chiaroscuros]

I once asked Mike to "make it out to ebay".

Either I was close behind you in line or he was still laughing about that hours later cause he was still telling that joke! "Would you like this made out to ebay?" he asked with a twinkle in his eye. :)

[hollow18]

So did anyone else notice that this is the 3rd time that honest grader posted this page on ebay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280248401106

It apparently sold twice already, and I would find it weird that 2 buyers for the same page didn't pay. So is this a copy, a fake, or is he just using a second ebay account to bid up his auctions and if his second account is the high bidder waits, relists and then tries again to get his price? Let the speculation begin... But whatever the case and hearing on this board that others are having issues with this seller, personally I will avoid his auctions.

[Jake Capps]

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=219499

[hollow18]

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=219499

yup that was the other thread about honestgrader on this board I was referring too. thanks Jake.

[Jake Capps]

I'm here to help. Unlike that guy who is here to get into Cons early on his dealer pass, and buy up all the good stuff, and then jack up the price on ebay. Who knows what treasures he will pillage this week in San Diego?!

[hollow18]

I'm here to help. Unlike that guy who is here to get into Cons early on his dealer pass, and buy up all the good stuff, and then jack up the price on ebay. Who knows what treasures he will pillage this week in San Diego?!

well lets hope mike and christine know who he is, and with this bad publicity not sell him much if any art at SDCC this year?

[Mike Cross]

In all honesty, this has nothing to do with the Mignola's and their selling of Mike's art..this happens everywhere in the comic art field. Mike has made an art sale to this and other dealers and if Mike wants to raise the price of his art, that's his choice, they have no control on the after-market.

[Nick W]

I've made my stance on honestgrader and ilk perfectly clear, but I don't think he's a thief. There probably is a legit reason for the relisting or maybe he keeps backing out because he's not getting the price he wants for the page.

N

[Mike Cross]

Nick, subsequently, and forgive me if you mentioned this elsewhere or in the other thread, but why not then list a buy it now or even list it at the miniumum he would want for it? That would avoid all the hassle he seems to go through to keep re-posting this page.

[jnapper]

Nick, if you want, please reply to Mike Cross via PM, I am going to close this thread.

Caveat emptor for items bought in a secondary market (eBay, etc.)... and thanks.


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Three sequential threads were merged. Thus, some of the URLs pointing to older threads may no longer work because the content is all here now. Thanks.
--jnapper, 7/22/2008