Are Diana & Donna identical looking?

[Charybdis4]

Hi everyone - are Diana & Donna supposed to be identical looking?

Donna was created to be a twin/playmate for Diana when she was a child & didn't she appear out of a mirror (correct me if I'm wrong on that)? So does that mean they look alike?

[Trademark]

I'm not a fan of Diana and Donna looking identical, but under current continuity, they are. I believe this was specifically mentioned in Wonder Woman #1 (3rd series).

[shanejayell]

Or at least very close. :) I think Donna has a smaller bust, at least as drawn by some artists...

[kal_el21]

For some reason Donna's always appeared younger to me in the comics. I think most artists try to portray her this way.

[Jack]

They might not look truly identical if they were real, given that comic art is hardly photo-realistic. The stylised art often makes it difficult to tell certain characters apart.

[MaxofSteel]

For some reason Donna's always appeared younger to me in the comics. I think most artists try to portray her this way.

So wait... Donna's not younger than Diana? I'm not really a WW reader, but I always considered her to be Diana's little sis.

[Fenix]

Yes, in theory.
But there is a story in WW #don´t remember now, where it´s stated they different. Younger I guess... and I think Donna suffer the past of time so She´s aging...at some point she will look somehow like Diana, but sometimes younger (post crisis), sometimes older (Kindom Come)... or it´s all just a mess and nobody knows.
In Dodson´s take, Donna has smaller breasts than Diana and combs her hair to one side, and maybe it´s me, but she seems younger, what could be right due to her recent resurrection...

[Charybdis4]

Well I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who's a bit confused by this.

My take on it, is that they are different looking, otherwise surely someone one had mentioned it in the past. Plus I've always taken Donna as being younger.

[siuntres]

So wait... Donna's not younger than Diana? I'm not really a WW reader, but I always considered her to be Diana's little sis.

she was retconned to be her "sister" but the original silver age wonder girl stories were about WW as a teen.

it wasn't uuntil the creation of the teen titans that WG became a seperate character.

[glennsim]

The last thing we knew before Infinite Crisis is that Donna had started out as a duplicate of Diana, but then was run through a bunch of terrible lives (including the one where she was rescued from a fire by the Titans of Myth and became Wonder Girl) by Dark Angel all of which ended in disaster for her. Over the course of all of these multiple lives, her appearance shifted a bit, resulting in her looking a little different. I'm pretty sure this was specifically addressed.

Historically Donna is younger than Diana. But based on the fact that Diana was re-presented post-Crisis as being younger than she had been in the past (relative to the ages of Superman, Batman, etc.), I think they are now considered the same age. Diana does seem to have aged a bit more from 1986 to 2006 than Donna has, though.

[CarolStrick]

When she was going through the 1000 lives thing, she was actually reborn each lifetime within differing family units so she had different genetic material to deal with and thus looked different in each lifetime. (Though flashbacks made her look similar in each life. Perhaps her soul influenced her body?)

So when she was born as Donna Stacey (whatever it was... eventually becoming Troy), she looked quite different from Diana, and was significantly younger.

Then she died and the Titan gods brought her forth fully grown as a moon goddess into their midst. That's the current Donna Troy, and as has been noted, in WW series 3 issue #2 we were told they look "exactly alike."

So now instead of being perhaps of an age with her friends in the original Titans, she is now (supposedly) significantly older. (As noted, post-ICk Diana is also significantly older than she was post-Crisis.)

That's if you assume that the current arc is within continuity. I do not and will not until DC forces me to. There are too many negative continuity problems with it. Positive continuity changes I can deal with very nicely, thank you.

[Lorendiac]

I never got the impression that they were "identical looking."

I didn't bother reading the "Return of Donna Troy" miniseries, but I think I've read most of her appearances (usually in Titans titles) from 1980 up until she died in "Graduation Day" around early 2003. That's 23 years' worth of stories!

By the mid-80s, she was already at least 19 or 20, I'd say, when she married Terry Long and eventually got pregnant and gave birth to their son. Presumably she was as tall and physically mature as she was ever going to get; her facial features had already settled down into their "grown-up" configuration.

And in all her stories from the 1980s, 1990s, or early 2000s, I don't recall a single scene where anyone who knew Wonder Woman well met Donna when she was in civilian clothes and said, "Oh, hello, Diana, nice to see you again!"

And I don't remember anyone else ever seeing Diana in civilian clothes (which even the Post-Crisis version of Wonder Woman sometimes wears) and starting to call her "Donna" either.

So I simply never got the impression that Diana's fellow JLAers or Donna's fellow Titans had any trouble at all in telling them apart at a glance, regardless of whether or not either lady was wearing a distinctive costume in any given scene.

[CarolStrick]

They've only been identical since issue #2 of the current series. (Page 1. Dr. Poison says, "So, it's TRUE... Donna Troy IS the new Wonder Woman." Osira: "How can you TELL, Dr. Poison? They look exactly alike." Dr. Cyber: "Yes, Osira...." That's at least 2 supervillains agreeing.)

Interestingly enough, after Donna Troy has been reborn as a goddess, the Titans had no problems recognizing her as Donna Troy. Not a bit. Yet for some reason in the WW she now is Diana's exact double.

Look at the Perez and Jimenez runs: you can always tell Diana from Donna. Not any more!

[Nevets F]

I think people are having a hard time dealing with the new retcon.

As others have mentioned, as recently as a few months ago, she has been mentioned as looking exactly like Diana.

[DDM]

So wait... Donna's not younger than Diana? I'm not really a WW reader, but I always considered her to be Diana's little sis.

Pre-Crisis, Diana was older than Donna. However, the post-Crisis Wonder Woman is much younger than Donna Troy, although Diana is thousands of years old being immortal on Paradise Island. I believe they are about the same "age."

[CarolStrick]

Thousands of years? I thought Diana's age post-Crisis (and after things settled in a few years) was usually given as about 26. She was very young when she first arrived. I don't think anyone really believes she spent 1000 years in Valhalla with Superman, as neither was emotionally (or otherwise) affected by the experience.

If indeed Donna is Diana's exact -- physically and chronologically -- duplicate, then -- pfft! -- there go how many decades of Teen Titans history? All of 'em! If in the nuDCU Diana was an adult and operating in the Outer World at the same time that Superman and Batman started their careers and the JLA was forming, that means that Donna was an adult as well. Why should the Teen Titans, a bunch of kids, accept an adult into their midst?

Ergo, if we go by the new WW factoids, Donna could never have been a member of the TT unless she was some kind of adult mentor. Perhaps Fury, Miss America or Black Canary took Wonder Girl's position in this nuDCU chronology. Not!

[the Dagman]

There is one tiny detail you are forgetting.

Diana has always been immortal. She reached the pinnacle of her age to physical peak ratio and stopped aging. Donna has been mortal and physically catching up to Diana all this time, up until her death and the Titans of Myth brought her back as a moon goddess. Add to this that Diana's history has been retconned back to it's pre-COIE state, and that is a lot of time given to Donna to grow up.

Also The Titans of Myth have it within their power to make Donna and Diana virtually identical physically when they returned her to life, but have the people who truly know them be able to tell them apart. Magic and godly power works wonders I hear.

So do not go thinking that all the old Teen Titans stories are out of continuity just yet.

[CarolStrick]

I certainly don't want to do away with all TT continuity. (Well, maybe a few eras...) However, there are many elements of the current WW series that I'm pretty darned iffy about, and there's no "if" about the way Diana herself is being portrayed as a loser. If anything has to be deemed out of continuity, I vote for WW vol 3. Or at least Cyber and Poison's comments.

[Superboy Prime]

They always looked different to me.

Similar in many ways, sure. But personally, I've never been a fan of the idea of both of them supposedly looking identical. And I honeslty havent experienced many cases of them appearing to be exactly alike over the years either. With the exception of here recently, where Donna's appearance as WW appears very close to Diana's.

[BYC]

The real question is when they'll start trading personalities to screw with their significant others and close friends.

[marshal99]

I think they are similiar but there are some differences that you can tell apart , like sisters who looked alike. Diana is like the older sister to Donna , they did make a point of that when Clayface digested Diana and she reverted back to a younger stage and then she came face to face with Donna who looks similiar and they did the old bait and switch against Clayface.