When will Storm become an Avenger?

[GoddessStorm]

I've been waiting for her to be something more outside the X-Men for a long time, and somehow, becoming Queen of Wakanda hasn't really improved her popularity. When do you think she'll become an Avenger?

[Cayman]

I'd almost rather see her as part of an international team, perhaps with T'challa, Namor, Sabra, Arabian Knight, Medusa, and others.

[rwe1138]

If you want it that badly, she's a member in the Marvel Adventures Avengers book.

[Kirk G]

I'd almost rather see her as part of an international team, perhaps with T'challa, Namor, Sabra, Arabian Knight, Medusa, and others.
Be careful what you wish for... it just might come true... at the expense of your favorite team or characters!

[LordEd1976]

There was an Avengers storyline in the 80s involving Kang where an alternate Earth Storm was part of the Avengers

[XPac]

I would think that being married to Panther would almost give her at least honorary status. Worked that way for Marina. But I suppose until Panther does something with the Avengers, that won't really count.

Once the Avengers situation seatles down a bit, I'd like it if they were to put her at least on reserve status. I don't think she or BP should ever be a full time member of the team if they're busy running a country.

[mattbib]

Which team do you think she'd work best on? New or Mighty?

I'd see her butting heads with some of Cap's ideologies, but I'd see her being intolerant of Iron Man's attitude.

[Cayman]

Which team do you think she'd work best on? New or Mighty?

I'd see her butting heads with some of Cap's ideologies, but I'd see her being intolerant of Iron Man's attitude.

I'd put her with New.

[Deus ex Chris]

I'd put her with New.
I think I'd put her with Mighty, just because you know there'd be hella friction.

[Factor Three]

Ororo Munroe is a filthy whore unfit to serve alongside Earth's self-proclaimed mightiest heroes. It's only a matter of time before her blasphemous marriage crumbles when she strays from her human husband to be with a superior mutant. Probably the primitive Wolverine. It matters not. Factor Three will use Storm to our own purposes or the witch will die. As will all who refuse to serve Factor Three.

[Atom_basher]

I wouldn't want storm on New avengers, because it *seems8 its gonna be street level espionage type, but i wouldn't put her with mighty because i believe they are all pro reg and storm isn't pro reg and wouldn't fit at all, i could however see her fitting in pre-disassembled avengers team

[Mikl C]

I have no interest in Storm as an Avenger. In fact, I don't really like Storm much any more :(

[heretic]

I've been waiting for her to be something more outside the X-Men for a long time, and somehow, becoming Queen of Wakanda hasn't really improved her popularity. When do you think she'll become an Avenger, cuz we all know she's just a ticking-time bomb with her massive potential for stardom.
I have to concur. Being T'challa's sidekick under Hudlin is frankly a step down from being one of the core X-Folks... and frankly she fits in with the Avengers better than Wolvie anyway.

HTG

[heretic]

Which team do you think she'd work best on? New or Mighty?

I'd see her butting heads with some of Cap's ideologies, but I'd see her being intolerant of Iron Man's attitude.
Definitely New. She would be certain to Smite Stark on principle.

HTG

[bfrank]

I wouldn't want storm on New avengers, because it *seems8 its gonna be street level espionage type,
isn't she like one of the best theives in the world.....

[Mariah]

isn't she like one of the best theives in the world.....
Yes, plus, when she had the X-Men go all underground, making the world believe they we're dead, that could be considered very covert and espionage-y.

[Trolt]

why have storm when u "normally" have thor? even two dozen storms wouldn't cut it.

[Omega Alpha]

isn't she like one of the best theives in the world.....

Yeah, but still,if you don't want to call the attention of everyone, you shouldn't have a black with white hair woman who happens to be a queen making a hurricane.

[Trademark]

I've been waiting for her to be something more outside the X-Men for a long time, and somehow, becoming Queen of Wakanda hasn't really improved her popularity. When do you think she'll become an Avenger, cuz we all know she's just a ticking-time bomb with her massive potential for stardom.
Personally, I kind of feel the opposite of this is true. Storm is popular because she is an X-Men and being an Avenger would actually be a step down. Ever since the 1980s, X-Men has been a better selling and more popular franchise for Marvel than the Avengers. The fact that Storm is more well known today than pretty much any female Avenger is largely due to the fact that Storm was heavily featured in the early 1980s heyday of the X-Men's popularity.

[Haunt]

why have storm when u "normally" have thor? even two dozen storms wouldn't cut it.

why have Thor when you have the Sentry?

[Omega Alpha]

why have Thor when you have the Sentry?

Two uber powerful heroes don't necessarily have mutually exclusive abilities, like those two. With Sentry on the team, Thor is not useless. However, with Thor on the team, Storm is. And, well, Thor is MORE powerful than the Sentry, so the question should be reversed.

[DDM]

Two uber powerful heroes don't necessarily have mutually exclusive abilities, like those two. With Sentry on the team, Thor is not useless. However, with Thor on the team, Storm is. And, well, Thor is MORE powerful than the Sentry, so the question should be reversed.

Not really. Thor's ability to control the weather is magical; whereas, Storm must work with the planet's enviromental system to use her powers. Thor's hammer other capabilities besides controlling the weather. Thor possesses superhuman strength too.

There's really no comparison between Thor & Storm once you passed the superficial comparison that both characters can control the weather.

I would not like to see Ororo become an Avenger anytime soon.

[GoddessStorm]

Personally, I kind of feel the opposite of this is true. Storm is popular because she is an X-Men and being an Avenger would actually be a step down. Ever since the 1980s, X-Men has been a better selling and more popular franchise for Marvel than the Avengers. The fact that Storm is more well known today than pretty much any female Avenger is largely due to the fact that Storm was heavily featured in the early 1980s heyday of the X-Men's popularity.

You know what? I think you are right. People on other sites have been saying that Storm is a worthless character because she hasn't done anything important outside the X-Men, but when you think about it, simply BEING an X-Man makes her more important that thousands of other Marvel characters because of its popularity.

Frankly, I really don't care if Storm becomes an Avenger or not. I simply want her to do more. I'd very much like her to go solo for a while or something because I want her to become an icon, like Wolverine did in the past decade or so. I don't think it's fair that some crumpy-looking, ugly, hairy man with nothing but claws has become an icon, when Storm, who has a more fitting Let's-Save-The-Day personality, an amazing distinct look, and distinct versatile power, hasn't yet. It sucks and I want justice to be served now!

[GoddessStorm]

And for some of you people here, stop comparing Thor to Storm. Yes they both have weather powers, but that doesn't mean Storm would be a useless inclusion to the Avengers just cause Thor is already in it. I mean there are so many characters with nothing but super strength (like Beast) who have been Avengers, and is it fair to throw them away just cause someone else already has super strength (Thor)? I don't think so.

True, if all the Avengers had nothing but weather powers it would be boring, but simply 1, 2, or 3 weather people is not a problem at all, especially when the characters are completely distinct from one another in appearance, personality, background, and gender.

Is Supergirl worthless when she's teamed up with Superman? ...Thank you.

[XPac]

Personally, I kind of feel the opposite of this is true. Storm is popular because she is an X-Men and being an Avenger would actually be a step down. Ever since the 1980s, X-Men has been a better selling and more popular franchise for Marvel than the Avengers. The fact that Storm is more well known today than pretty much any female Avenger is largely due to the fact that Storm was heavily featured in the early 1980s heyday of the X-Men's popularity.

That WAS true, but times have changed.

In large part due to Bendis, the Avengers have become the core title for the entire marvel universe (which in my opinion has always been where the Avengers belonged). Being an Avenger is no longer a step down... if you're fighting alongside Spiderman, Cap, and Logan you're in A list company.

Storm in the Avengers won't be what she was in the heyday of X-Men popularity... but she won't be that in the X books either. Not with Cyclops around being Mr. X-Men and not with 3 different X books, where most readers don't even have a clue who is actually on the team from one month to the next (except for Astonishing).

[GoddessStorm]

That WAS true, but times have changed. Storm in the Avengers won't be what she was in the heyday of X-Men popularity...

That's not true. Storm can very well be a great, exciting, prominent character as an Avenger as she was with the X-Men as long the writers give her interesting character development. If they make her surprising, commanding, enthusiastic, and important to the other team members, she can easily be an Avengers star, especially since she's got all the comic-superstar qualitites.

It's true that characters fightning alongside Spider-Man and Wolverine are easily seen more, but still, the name "Avengers" is nothing famous among common folk. "Fantastic Four" is a better known name than "Avengers" out in the real world. And right after Spider-Man, X-Men is the next best known title and superhero icon, and Storm is a frontliner in that.

[XPac]

That's not true. Storm can very well be a great, exciting, prominent character as an Avenger as she was with the X-Men as long the writers give her interesting character development. If they make her surprising, commanding, enthusiastic, and important to the other team members, she can easily be an Avengers star, especially since she's got all the comic-superstar qualitites.

It's true that characters fightning alongside Spider-Man and Wolverine are easily seen more, but still, the name "Avengers" is nothing famous among common folk. "Fantastic Four" is a better known name than "Avengers" out in the real world. And right after Spider-Man, X-Men is the next best known title and superhero icon, and Storm is a frontliner in that.

Like I said, times are changing. New Avengers is already Marvels best selling on-going monthly title. With almost all the companies biggest icons on the team (missing only the Hulk). I don't see putting Storm in marvels best selling title is a step down for her at all. Being on the same team as Spider-Man and Wolverine (2 characters that are bigger than she is) won't hurt her one bit.

But you are right about Storm possibly a more prominent character if Bendis chooses to run with her that way. Luke Cage despite being on the same team as several of Marvels biggest icons has really shined. I guess it's all on Bendis shoulders.

[Shellhead]

While Storm doesn't have as much personality as you might expect from a character that has been around for over 30 years, that should still be a factor in this discussion.

From Storm's viewpoint, the only possible reason why she would be interested in joining the Avengers would be if Black Panther re-joined the team. And unless he loses his crown, he is simply too busy ruling Wakanda to spend time on the Avengers roster. Black Panther is one of my favorite heroes (except when Hudlin is writing him), but he just doesn't make sense as an Avenger on a long-term basis.

Otherwise, if Storm had the time and flexibility to hang out back in the United States, she would probably rather be with all of her close mutant friends than hanging out with heroes that she hardly knows, like Spider-man and Cage.

[XPac]

While Storm doesn't have as much personality as you might expect from a character that has been around for over 30 years, that should still be a factor in this discussion.

From Storm's viewpoint, the only possible reason why she would be interested in joining the Avengers would be if Black Panther re-joined the team. And unless he loses his crown, he is simply too busy ruling Wakanda to spend time on the Avengers roster. Black Panther is one of my favorite heroes (except when Hudlin is writing him), but he just doesn't make sense as an Avenger on a long-term basis.

Otherwise, if Storm had the time and flexibility to hang out back in the United States, she would probably rather be with all of her close mutant friends than hanging out with heroes that she hardly knows, like Spider-man and Cage.

That's certainly true. It never made sense for BP to be an active member of the Avengers. It was borderline irresponsible on his part.

If they were to give Storm a bigger part in the Avengers, maybe it might be because she's the official liason or ambassador for Wakanda to the US or the hero community. That would probably give her stronger ties to the Avenger corner of the MU than with the X-Men.

[scottv]

I think that Storm's quality of great leadership is more important than her powers to control the weather.

[mattbib]

I think Storm would see the Avengers as a tool to be used for the good of the mutant cause, using membership as a platform for mutant rights in a way that a) she never could as an X-Man and b) that other mutant Avengers failed to do.

In that regard, I definitely see her on the Mighty Avengers as opposed to New Avengers.

[Deus ex Chris]

I think Storm would see the Avengers as a tool to be used for the good of the mutant cause, using membership as a platform for mutant rights in a way that a) she never could as an X-Man and b) that other mutant Avengers failed to do.

In that regard, I definitely see her on the Mighty Avengers as opposed to New Avengers.
The fact that she chose to stand against Iron Man's side in Civil War makes me really want to see her on the Mighty Avengers, perhaps as an overture of peace from Wakanda. There's just too much mileage to be had from the sort of friction that is bound to be there.

[XPac]

I think that Storm's quality of great leadership is more important than her powers to control the weather.

That's true... but that's also part of the reason why her character really lost a lot of emphasis with the return of Cyclops to the X-Men. And why she might be a more background character in the Avengers. Being a leader doesn't mean a whole lot when you don't get to lead, and it's not likely she'd do that on a team with Cyclops or Captain America.

Though in Marvel Adventures Avengers, Storm does mention she's a co-leader with Cap. So she's getting equal billing at least on paper.

[DDM]

That's true... but that's also part of the reason why her character really lost a lot of emphasis with the return of Cyclops to the X-Men. And why she might be a more background character in the Avengers. Being a leader doesn't mean a whole lot when you don't get to lead, and it's not likely she'd do that on a team with Cyclops or Captain America.

Though in Marvel Adventures Avengers, Storm does mention she's a co-leader with Cap. So she's getting equal billing at least on paper.

This problem can be solved with Storm leading one team of X-Men & Cyclops leading another team in a separate book.

Storm needs to get out of the Black Patnher "marriage" first; she's been effectively relegated to supporting character with Hudlin's Black Panther.

[Effect]

I used to wonder when she'd join the team as well. However I've come to the opinion and conclusion that as long as she stays married to Black Panther and written by Hudlin I don't care if she ever becomes an Avenger. In fact its to the point where I'd prefer she didn't cause the less closer Hudlin comes to possibly influencing an Avengers title and its characters the better.

I at least have the Marvel Adventures Avenger comic where she is a member. That's all I need. To hell with the 616 version I feel at times as long as the current situation with Hudlin and Black Panther remains.

[Omega Alpha]

Not really. Thor's ability to control the weather is magical; whereas, Storm must work with the planet's enviromental system to use her powers. Thor's hammer other capabilities besides controlling the weather. Thor possesses superhuman strength too..

Which means that Thor has all the powers that Storm has, and then some (or plenty). She's still not useful with him on the team.




And for some of you people here, stop comparing Thor to Storm. Yes they both have weather powers, but that doesn't mean Storm would be a useless inclusion to the Avengers just cause Thor is already in it. I mean there are so many characters with nothing but super strength (like Beast) who have been Avengers, and is it fair to throw them away just cause someone else already has super strength (Thor)? I don't think so.

Yes, she would be useless because you can have two characters punching others, but if two characters were trying to create hurricanes, then it would be a problem. If you're in a fight, you could use two characters who can deliver very powerful punches, but not two who control the weather. Is kind of having Pyro and the Human Torch on the team.

[Deus ex Chris]

She's still not useful with him on the team.
Of course she is. That's like saying Captain America isn't useful because people like Ms. Marvel, the Sentry, and Thor have greater physical stats than he does. Storm's abilites are still more dangerous and versatile than most of the other Avengers, regardless of Thor's presence.

[GoddessStorm]

Yes, she would be useless because you can have two characters punching others, but if two characters were trying to create hurricanes, then it would be a problem. If you're in a fight, you could use two characters who can deliver very powerful punches, but not two who control the weather. Is kind of having Pyro and the Human Torch on the team.

Uh, no she wouldn't. When Storm and Thor go into battle, they usually do not refer to creating hurricanes to defeat their enemies being how their enemies are usually single individuals running around and not vast armies. If Thor and Storm were up against an army that covered the radius of a hurricane then they could both work together to form a super hurricane.

However, most of the time, they are fighting just single "soldiers" so a blast of lightning or violent winds or crushing hail coming from around Thor or Storm might be all the source of weather they will need to fight their enemy, and they do not need to go all full-force hurricane to deliver that.

Bottomline, you say two people can be powerful punchers cuz their powers don't interfere with one another, correct. Well since Thor and Storm usually manipulate the weather to produce small effects in small areas that will attack individuals, then the same excuse can apply to them. Neither of them HAVE to violate each others' personal space, as you are saying.

And also, Thor commonly relies more on his super strength, speed, and sole lightning to fight, so if two weather manipulators on the same team were a problem (and it isn't), then the writers could easily make sure they're using different powers at different times. That's a no-brainer.

Also, I think Storm is more likely to join New Avengers that classic Avengers with Thor, so there's nothing for you to worry about.

[GoddessStorm]

I think that Storm's quality of great leadership is more important than her powers to control the weather.

Well, pretty much, her leadership quality is a part of her personality, and it's the entire package of a character that makes him or her great: Appearance, personality, powers, background. All these things are what mold a character's likability.

What I'm saying is, both her personality (leadership quality) and powers are of equal significance for her appeal, in the long run. For instance, I would not be a super storm fan if she didn't have atmokinesis and had super strength instead. Comparably, I would not care about her weather powers if they came from someone that i didn't like, such as Thor. I also wouldn't think much of Storm if instead of being a leader or feminine goddess, she was a weak, Emma Frost skank. See what I mean? Each character is a combo.

I'm sure most people feel this way too. If their favorite character had some other person's power or personality, they'd lose interest in him or her. I'm telling you, everything about a character matters equally.

[GoddessStorm]

Storm should definitely be on New Avengers. That's where she belongs, fightning along side the stars.

[ForEverAncien]

-Primes OMEGA Wave Cannon, and points-:D

Ororo Munroe is a filthy whore unfit to serve alongside Earth's self-proclaimed mightiest heroes. It's only a matter of time before her blasphemous marriage crumbles when she strays from her human husband to be with a superior mutant. Probably the primitive Wolverine. It matters not. Factor Three will use Storm to our own purposes or the witch will die. As will all who refuse to serve Factor Three.

[Mariah]

Storm is a formidable marketing tool. Being the first black female character to lead one of the greatest super-hero books of all time says a lot for her, and the author of the book.

[The Shadow]

Just my 2 cents but I don't want Storm on the Avengers.

While some mixing is fine I think she would clash with Cap, Hawkeye, Wasp, Black Widow and all the other leaders because she wouldn't be able to take a back seat role on the team.

[Red Lotus]

Just my 2 cents but I don't want Storm on the Avengers.

While some mixing is fine I think she would clash with Cap, Hawkeye, Wasp, Black Widow and all the other leaders because she wouldn't be able to take a back seat role on the team.


I dont want to see Storm on the Avengers. I just started to get into them and that would make me drop the book.

But as for the whole taking a back seat because of the other leaders thing. Storm has taken a back seat to Cyclops, Gambit, and now the Black Panther. So her being a spare part on Avengers wouldn't be a problem.

[The Shadow]

But as for the whole taking a back seat because of the other leaders thing. Storm has taken a back seat to Cyclops, Gambit, and now the Black Panther. So her being a spare part on Avengers wouldn't be a problem.When was Gambit a leader of the X-Men telling Storm what to do??

[mattbib]

Let's limit the discussion to Storm joining the X-Men, people, not the X-Men's sales, quality, membership, Marvel's bankruptcy, etc.

Oh, and hyperbole and illogical conclusions don't really win a debate.

[Mariah]

When was Gambit a leader of the X-Men telling Storm what to do??
During the Revolution when CC first came back to the X-Men.

[da noble savage]

I love storm but I like her better where she is now with the black panther and the Queen of wakanda. Maybe after this whole civil war thing is done and if black panther joins the avengers which I hope not cause I like him not being a avenger as well. But black panther is really good right now and its basised mostly off there relationship togther I hope they both never become avengers.

[DDM]

I love storm but I like her better where she is now with the black panther and the Queen of wakanda. Maybe after this whole civil war thing is done and if black panther joins the avengers which I hope not cause I like him not being a avenger as well. But black panther is really good right now and its basised mostly off there relationship togther I hope they both never become avengers.

You're too late. Black Panther has already been a member of the Avengers.

[Effect]

I don't see him joining after Civil War either. For one Mighty Avengers is completely out cause I doubt Iron Man would work with him. New Avengers is suppose to be pretty covert op themed in it's stories last I heard and I can't think of any serious reason to add Black Panther to that team with it's line up and with them most likely having people like Nick Fury for suppport.

There is no way fo rhim to reasonable join either team at the moment. Especailly with him being a King of his own country. It just doesn't make any sense I feel. As for Storm like I said before I really don't care anymore to be honest, as long as she's married to Black Panther. She's in Marvel Adventures Avengers and that's good enough. If she never step foot in an Avengers (616) I would be just fine.

Maybe I need to calm down about my Hudlin hate cause its really affecting my enjoyment of some characters mainly Storm. The hate for his work and dislike for him based on his comments has turn into hate for her. Normally I'd be upset about but I'm not for the most part. Oh well.

[John Nowak]

Maybe I need to calm down about my Hudlin hate cause its really affecting my enjoyment of some characters mainly Storm. The hate for his work and dislike for him based on his comments has turn into hate for her. Normally I'd be upset about but I'm not for the most part. Oh well.

Not to speak out of turn, but for me it helps to focus more on the writer / editor and the writing process.

If you feel Storm is behaving out of character, remember that it's really just a bad piece of writing, and remember that the stuff you liked about her could return the moment she's switched over to another writer.

Works for me, anyway.

[GoddessStorm]

I don't know who Hudlin is, but I agree that whoever has been managing Storm lately has screwed her over.

People have been waiting for Storm to do something out of X-Men for years and now that she finally has, it sucks and it has decreased her popularity. If anything, Storm should have done something to boost her popularity, like join New Avengers or become her own solo superhero for a time, interacting with other Marvel stars on solo journeys, but unfortunately, she got married instead to a not-so-popular character.

Her wedding dress was ugly, and now she isn't even getting any action. She's just cruising around on her honeymoon while everyone is engaged in wars and crime-fighting.

How sad, heartbraking, disappointing, and infuriating. Storm deserves better. MUCH better.

[Tobias March]

I don't see him joining after Civil War either. For one Mighty Avengers is completely out cause I doubt Iron Man would work with him. New Avengers is suppose to be pretty covert op themed in it's stories last I heard and I can't think of any serious reason to add Black Panther to that team with it's line up and with them most likely having people like Nick Fury for suppport.

There is no way fo rhim to reasonable join either team at the moment. Especailly with him being a King of his own country. It just doesn't make any sense I feel. As for Storm like I said before I really don't care anymore to be honest, as long as she's married to Black Panther. She's in Marvel Adventures Avengers and that's good enough. If she never step foot in an Avengers (616) I would be just fine.



There's no reason why Storm, even as Queen of Wakanda, couldn't still be involved in the Avengers (Caps team, I guess we're all assuming that). Chances of her being a field operative are slim, but Wakanda is a world power and its aid would guarantee the team a fighting chance over the resources of Tony's Government/SHIELD sponsored team. T'Challa and Ororo could become the team's Reed and Sue Richards, providing them with a safehouse as well as much needed tech.

[Shellhead]

Her wedding dress was ugly, and now she isn't even getting any action.

Heh. Ororo wasn't getting much "action" before she got married, either. You can ask Claremont about that.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

She could join New Avengers but I doubt it. Since I'm sure Editoral will force strict orders down that Storm can not be written as having doubts about the marriage or any storyline that hints at it. They will likely keep her in Black Panther and continue to try and push the 2 as a couple.

[Rich L]

I think you'll see Storm (and BP again) as a member of the FF way before you see her as an Avenger.

Follow the dots here. (http://comicbycomic.blogspot.com/2006/12/two-plus-two-equals.html)

[Erik Lehnsherr]

I have no objections to that. She's always seemed more elite than the average X-Man anyway.