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Jadeskies
11-23-2006, 09:01 PM
This is a review of Marvel's Ultimate alliance. I play it on the 360 and I have beaten the game on normal mode and have unlocked *all* of the marvel characters without any cheat codes.

I will give this game credit where credit is due. Who ever designed this game is a fan of comic books and has spent a long time aquiring comic knowledge. It paid most of its attention to classic Marvel comics and doesn't adhere to the ultimate marvel line at all. Doing so would be an easy fix.

Anyways the game in my mind rates a 9. Its fun, you feel compelled to keep playing though to the end of the game and you really want to unlock hidden characters. Unfortunately the mini games are pretty mind numbingly easy and seem to be quickly concocted as an escuse to give you something to do in between punching things repeatedly,

What it lacks in mini games it makes up for in playable characters. There are 18 characters (Moon Knight and Colossus are not playable on ps2) that you can play with and 6 of them are unlockable. Each character has thier own set of powers and its the aquirement of those powers that keeps the game interesting. You start off with Wolverine, Thor, Captain America and Spiderman but after the first board you can switch to other characters.

Playable characters on 360 include Captain America, Colossus, Deadpool, Electra, Human Torch, Iceman, Invisible Woman, Iron Man, Luke Cage, Moon Knight, Mr. Fantastic, Mrs. Marvel, Spiderman, Spider-woman, Storm, Thing, Thor & Wolverine. Unlockable characters include Black Panther, Blade, Dr. Strange, Ghost Rider, Nick Fury, & Silver Surfer.

Each Character (except silver surfer who still has variations of suit powers) has 4 costumes which changes thier appearance and minor powers. For example Spiderman has Classic, Ultimate, Ironman spidey armor and Symbiote suit. Classic spiderman has damage reflection and increased web damage and symbiote costume has increased Melee dmg and increased web damage. Spider-woman comes with SPIDER-GIRL costume for all her fans.

The game play is the same engine as X-men II rise of Apocalypse and if you liked that game you will like this one. It has a better story board than X-men II though and marvel fans will appreciate that. The various button combos may be a bit confusing to a new player but its not so bad that I couldnt lead a second player through the game. I showed my 52 year old father in law and my 8 year old nephew how to play with me and they did a very good job for newbies. (I didnt take the nephew into Mephisto's realm though, his parents wouldn't appreaciate the going to hell portion of the game).

I played as Spiderman, Thor, Captain AMerica and Deadpool. I generally played as Spiderman but during boss fights I would switch to Captain America for up close and dirty fighting. However it was -always- Deadpool who would pull my butt out of a nasty boss fight where all my other fighters died. It seemed like Deadpool just could not die due to healing factor.

There are a few glitches in the game though, like if you engadge a boss and start to get beaten you can run out of the room and look for stuff to smash to heal up (Or deadpools healing factor) and the boss usually wont follow you through an open door. On a bridge that flings fireballs at you, you can hug the far wall and not worry about being hit at all.

There are a few mini-games to solve to unlock boards but they are no problem to figure out, much too easy at times. There are also hidden disks that you can find in game to open mini-battles with in game rewards. If you finish all of them well enough you will unlock silver surfer. There is a Trivia game in each act of the game (5 acts) and if your a marvel fan you should have no problem answering most of these questions.

The Boss battles range from fighting one enemy (scorpion) all the way up to fighting multiple bosses at the same time (The whole Wrecking Crew or Dark FF) There are mini-games during boss fights where you have to follow a bunch of random button presses to harm the enemy to massive building sized villains (Fin Fang Foom, Kraken, Galactus and more!) who require you not only to deal with a mini-games to lower thier invulnerability but tons of henchmen which pore out of the woodwork. Theres even a boss mini-game where Modok quizes you on scientific know how before you can battle him and each wrong answer gets you electrified.

This game is better with a buddy than solo. Another great option was 360 online gaming. This is where 360 shines. Unlike all the other game systems this game gets better when you can actually verbally communicate with the 3 other people you are playing with. Yes you are going to end up gaming with some miserable players, or your going to end up with someone who only stays online for 10 mins then hops out screwing up the online game from time to time. But once in a while you get a real gem to play and you play for hours with a smile on your face. I would only ask that people could join an online game after it has started and someone has left the game because once your in your in and no one else can take your spot once you leave.

There is an obvious plot in the end that will lead into Ultimate Alliance II and with that being said here are the things that I would ask be added to the game.
1. There needs to be more of a difference between characters than just area of effect attacks, strong attacks, boosts and defence. There need to be characters whose powers are useful in tying up entire room fulls of henchmen so the rest of the team can deal with them better, like spiderman should focus on webbing guys down at a distance.
2. Add more characters, I need Vision (who is an npc in the game who answers pre-established questions), wonderman, The Thunderbolts, Nova, Speedball, Captain Marvel ect. ANd where the heck is Hawkeye!? You cant have an ultimate alliance without Hawkeye!

This is a great game and will warrant at least 2 play throughs for me. I suggest that to keep the game interesting you dont use any cheat codes. The only exception to this is the unlock all costumes codes (Because you may want to play as spidergirl or US AGent) right from the beginning. When you have beaten the game on normal and have unlocked everyone except for the silver surfer use the cheat code to unlock all characters because beating 35 mini games isnt worth it to get silver surfer even though he is the strongest char in the game.

This game is a 9.2 out of 10.

Johnny_H
11-23-2006, 09:04 PM
my only problem is that it gets old fast, and you can easily get lost as every panel or part of the stage looks the same, we got lost so many times looking for Mandarin that it was assenine

Jadeskies
11-23-2006, 09:07 PM
I Cant say I got lost in any of the boards, but I have done a lot of dungeon crawling games in my life. I was worried about missing hidden rooms and stuff though.

Also you may not of had the mini-map toggled on. On 360 you push down on the left analog stick to togle between the minimap or no mini-map. That map helps a lot, much like in diablo II.

Person Man
11-25-2006, 10:56 AM
Deadpool is like Ultimate Alliance God or something. He's so broken!

suedenim
11-25-2006, 04:16 PM
Deadpool is pretty awesome, true. And it seems like there's no way to screw him up, either! My Deadpool was all Dual Shot and Grenades, but others have made him a super-melee guy.

I love the game, I'm midway through my first game on Hard - and it really *is* pretty darn hard at times! I also would say it's more fun to play without the cheat codes - and nothing's too insanely difficult that you'd need them.

I just got the Xbox 360 Achievement for unlocking every costume in the game, somewhat to my surprise, as I wasn't especially trying to do so. (Colossus was my last, and he's quite fun, especially his grapple move!)

SnowTrooper
11-25-2006, 04:24 PM
I have Ultimate Alliance for the Xbox and Colossus isnt on there. What kinda power moves does he have? Is he better than the Thing?

Deadpool and Blade are probably my most deadly characters, there gun moves just plow through all of the enemies. I could probably beat the game with just those two.

Serik
11-25-2006, 04:40 PM
I give it a 5 for being a mindless, uninspired grindfest best suited for a MMORPG.

I knew the game would only go downhill after my first "press these buttons that flash on the sceen" boss battle. How anticlimatic and boring is that? And don't get me started about the cramped levels.

Tons of Marvel U characters and locations can't save crappy gameplay. Hopefully the sequel will introduce new gameplay mechanics instead of rehashing the same lame X-Men Legends formula.

Frodo-X
11-25-2006, 05:51 PM
I actually didn't think Deadpool was great. He was way too weak for me.


Thor kicked ass, though.


I give it a 5 for being a mindless, uninspired grindfest best suited for a MMORPG.

I knew the game would only go downhill after my first "press these buttons that flash on the sceen" boss battle. How anticlimatic and boring is that? And don't get me started about the cramped levels.

Tons of Marvel U characters and locations can't save crappy gameplay. Hopefully the sequel will introduce new gameplay mechanics instead of rehashing the same lame X-Men Legends formula.

I disagree in every way.

suedenim
11-25-2006, 06:42 PM
And Thor, I've never been able to use all that effectively (I often have him on the team, but usually AI-controlled.)

A lot depends on what costumes, powers, and upgrades you choose. (If you think Deadpool is too weak, set him loose in one of the Asgardian VS missions with a Hydro Suit and Dual Shot maxed out sometime!)

As for Colossus, I think the Thing's "area affect" powers might be better, but they're pretty similar. To be honest, I think the differences between a properly-equipped Thing, Colossus, or Luke Cage are fairly minor. It's certainly great to have one of them around, though!

I'm playing with the "Alternate Identities" people as my main team on Hard - War Machine, Spider-MILF, Ms. Marvel Sharon Ventura, Beta Ray Bill, and the Western Ghost Rider. They're a fun bunch, and War Machine makes a great tank with Resistances and Defense raised. (That's one thing I'm learning more on Hard - Resistance is pretty important.)

My biggest gripe with the game is probably the AI for other heroes. They don't use their attack powers nearly as much as they should, and almost never use their "buff" type powers.

SnowTrooper
11-25-2006, 07:42 PM
Im curious why they had Spider-Woman and Ms. Marvel in there. I dont think they are that well known, but they are probably just there so all the super heroes arent guys.

suedenim
11-25-2006, 07:51 PM
Marvel's traditionally had a bunch of good female characters, but few really "famous" ones. But Ms. Marvel (ongoing solo series) and Spider-Woman (recent mini, prominent in New Avengers) are probably about as prominent as any in their current comics.

Person Man
11-25-2006, 10:55 PM
Everyone has problems with Thor but me. I spammed God Speed and Mjolnir's Might to cause crazy damage to everything in sight. Add in the full boost for Hammer Damage, and it was evil. Thor's Rage is invaluable against the Dark Fantastic Four, IMO.

Kid Kamikaze10
11-26-2006, 04:11 AM
I give it a 5 for being a mindless, uninspired grindfest best suited for a MMORPG.

I knew the game would only go downhill after my first "press these buttons that flash on the sceen" boss battle. How anticlimatic and boring is that? And don't get me started about the cramped levels.

Tons of Marvel U characters and locations can't save crappy gameplay. Hopefully the sequel will introduce new gameplay mechanics instead of rehashing the same lame X-Men Legends formula.

Wow! You're the first person I've seen that agrees with me that the Marvel games NEED a new gameplay mechanic. The game is fine, but after this, the X-Men Legends formula needs to end. It's time for more innovative team superhero games.

Sparda
11-26-2006, 06:02 AM
If they ever made part 2 I hope they include Cable and the Hulk.

Also the X-Men mechanic formula get's boring. They should work on a new one.

cable guy
11-26-2006, 06:41 AM
If they ever made part 2 I hope they include Cable and the Hulk.

Also the X-Men mechanic formula get's boring. They should work on a new one.

I would Love to see Cable and Hulk... being they are two of my favorite characters.

Anyway this game is great. I give it a 9 out of 10.

Dark Soul # 7
11-26-2006, 08:45 AM
I beat the game yesterday and I gotta say, that was so much FUN!

It's been awhile that I've played a game that I just enjoyed so much on every level, I never bout any of the X-men Legends games.

I tried as many heroes as possible but my mainstay was Thor. Now he's a freaky powerful offensive monster. I can't wait to play through this on hard.

By the way, how do you get Silver Surfer?

hondobrode
11-28-2006, 07:12 PM
Just bought this for my son at Thanksgiving and we had a crazy good time with it.

Yeah, Thor kicked ass all over the place. Mjolnir was made for smackdown.

Arachnid
11-28-2006, 09:54 PM
Mt team was
Spiderman
Wolverine
Deadpool
Human Torch


I have spiderman every powerup I found in the game and made him
so powerful he could take out all the bosses in the game by himself.
Plus he loos like a bad ass in his symbiote suit!

Deadpools healing factor and Wolverines healing factors got mr out
of tough spots too. Wolverine is strong as hell and Deadpools teleporting
coms in handy when trying to excape a crown od bad guys.

If you level up torchs melee attacks he is a decent fighter and has some
good ranged attacks,

Nefarius
11-29-2006, 12:31 AM
The game is great and i find it more enjoyable than X-men legends and Legends II.I try to use as many heroes as i can but my mainstream team was Cap,Thor,Iron Man and spiderwoman.My only problem is that when i finished the game, i don't want to play it from the beginning for a second time.Mostly,i saved my favourites parts from the game and i load them(especially the battles with Mandarin,Loki and the final with Doom).Anyway,i hope to see a sequel with Thanos as the villain and Doom as a playable character.:D

suedenim
11-29-2006, 07:16 AM
If you level up torchs melee attacks he is a decent fighter and has some
good ranged attacks,

The Torch is maybe my favorite ranged specialist, and I love his Nova power. Not so much for its intrinsic benefits (burning guys who get in melee range with you), though that's fine. But what I really like is that he breaks all those barrels, urns, and whatnot just by walking close to them! Nice timesaver :)