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Gene M.
11-21-2006, 02:15 PM
Mark Guggenheim and Howard Chaykin. They'll follow Loeb/Bianchi with a story that's set up by next week's Wolverine 48.

More details can be found here:
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=91769

Frodo-X
11-21-2006, 02:34 PM
My thoughts on the matter are as follows:

:D :D :D :D

That is all.

Frodo-X
11-21-2006, 02:38 PM
He's pretty funny. And that means something coming from me.;)

In fact, when issue #43 damaged the structural integrity of the Internet (or somesuch), I commented to online journalist, Remy Minnick, "Great. Now everyone's going to think I'm doing this story to explain away the controversy."

Nice, clever little dig at Joey Q. :p

Gene M.
11-21-2006, 02:47 PM
Yeah. I'm pretty pumped about this, especially Chaykin. His art is a good fit for Wolverine.

Brian M.
11-21-2006, 02:57 PM
Awesome news. Awesome news. Just flat out great stuff.

Brian M.
11-21-2006, 03:00 PM
For fishtaco and DDM:


NRAMA: And all of that came before the plan to burning him to a crisp?

MG: Right - this was all conceived of before the now-infamous "melting" of Wolverine in issue #43. In fact, when issue #43 damaged the structural integrity of the Internet (or somesuch), I commented to online journalist, Remy Minnick, "Great. Now everyone's going to think I'm doing this story to explain away the controversy."

But here's the funny thing: I never thought burning Wolvie down to his adamantium would be controversial in the first place. It always struck me as just another day at the office for Logan.

NRAMA: Right – there’s precedent for this kind of regeneration…including, among others, that Uncanny X-Men Annual where Wolverine came back from a drop of blood…

MG: Thank you!!! Someone's been listening to me!

NRAMA: But for this one – you burned him pretty conclusively. Without telling the story - what is the anchor for Wolverine in this regeneration? A few cells left alive, somewhere in al of that heat?

MG: There are certainly a few cells left for Wolverine to regenerate from - more than a few, actually. I think that was one of the reasons I didn't think his regeneration in this instance would be so controversial. The other reason is -- as you point out -- there's precedent for this kind of regeneration. In addition to the Claremont/Davis moment, Daniel Way has hit the guy with a nuke, Mark Millar incinerated him in an oven and Grant Morrison and Garth Ennis have also done some equally nasty stuff to him.

NRAMA: As you seem to be wanting to delve more into the metaphysical issues around complete morphological regeneration…where does Wolverine "go" for lack of a better term when this level of destruction occurs? Obviously, it’s hard to have thoughts when you don’t have a brain…

MG: Ah, that would be telling.

fishtaco
11-21-2006, 03:00 PM
LOL! Did the Loeb/Bianchi team even start yet?

Brian M.
11-21-2006, 03:03 PM
LOL! Did the Loeb/Bianchi team even start yet?

Has issue #50 come out?

Frodo-X
11-21-2006, 03:05 PM
Nope, not yet. I believe #50 is due in January.

Affinity
11-21-2006, 03:06 PM
Guggenheim is making a great read from this book. I never thought I'd buy it but I am. Loeb/Bianchi sounds good and while I'm not thrilled about Chaykin, having Guggenheim back is just great.

Gene M.
11-21-2006, 03:07 PM
LOL! Did the Loeb/Bianchi team even start yet?
Nope, but it was announced from the start that they were only signed for 6 issues, with the possiblity of an extension. Looks like Marvel opted to pass on that option.

Brian M.
11-21-2006, 03:10 PM
Nope, not yet. I believe #50 is due in January.

I was being sarcastic.

Frodo-X
11-21-2006, 03:13 PM
I was being sarcastic.

Doesn't mean fishtaco was, too.

There are other people in the universe, man.;)

Cayman
11-21-2006, 03:21 PM
Cool, I like Guggenheim's writing. Chaykin's art is always interesting as well.

rwsmith
11-21-2006, 03:37 PM
Sounds good to me (though I really wish they'd tone Wolverine's healing factor back down to how it was during the 80's, where it actually took some time to heal from serious injuries and he could actually be killed by taking too much damage).

Sgt. Preston
11-21-2006, 03:44 PM
I really wish they'd tone Wolverine's healing factor back down to how it was during the 80's, where it actually took some time to heal from serious injuries and he could actually be killed by taking too much damage

I can't agree with this statement enough although since his healing factor's been this way for years now it seems his new power levels are here to stay. I can't wait to see what Chaykin can do on a Wolvie book even if it is for just one issue.

riotgear
11-21-2006, 04:05 PM
I thought Loeb & Bianchi were only on for #50.

Gene M.
11-21-2006, 04:07 PM
I thought Loeb & Bianchi were only on for #50.
They're on for 50-55 before Guggenheim/Chaykin take over.

Cam Man
11-21-2006, 07:16 PM
Question: If Wolvie can supposedly come back from a drop of blood.......whats to stop him from regenerating thousands of little Wolvernie "clones" every time he gets cut and sprays out the red stuff? Which for him is a daily occurence of course. If you cut off both arms and place them in two rooms will they both grow back two Wolverines? This whole thing is stupid. Better we just forget he came back from blood or a skeleton rather than to be reminded about it. Character's with limits are far more enjoyable than ones with broken powers. Good grief.

Frodo-X
11-21-2006, 07:19 PM
Question: If Wolvie can supposedly come back from a drop of blood.......whats to stop him from regenerating thousands of little Wolvernie "clones" every time he gets cut and sprays out the red stuff? Which for him is a daily occurence of course. If you cut off both arms and place them in two rooms will they both grow back two Wolverines? This whole thing is stupid. Better we just forget he came back from blood or a skeleton rather than to be reminded about it. Character's with limits are far more enjoyable than ones with broken powers. Good grief.

It seems that the story Guggenheim has planned is going to answer that very question; why doesn't each arm grow a new Logan. He said it's going to explain where his consciousness goes while he heals from such drastic injuries.

NickThompson
11-21-2006, 08:03 PM
I'm liking their work on Wolverine, so I like this :)

fishtaco
11-22-2006, 07:31 AM
Question: If Wolvie can supposedly come back from a drop of blood.......whats to stop him from regenerating thousands of little Wolvernie "clones" every time he gets cut and sprays out the red stuff? Which for him is a daily occurence of course. If you cut off both arms and place them in two rooms will they both grow back two Wolverines? This whole thing is stupid. Better we just forget he came back from blood or a skeleton rather than to be reminded about it. Character's with limits are far more enjoyable than ones with broken powers. Good grief.Please, don't give them any ideas. ;)

DDM
11-22-2006, 07:57 AM
Question: If Wolvie can supposedly come back from a drop of blood.......whats to stop him from regenerating thousands of little Wolvernie "clones" every time he gets cut and sprays out the red stuff? Which for him is a daily occurence of course. If you cut off both arms and place them in two rooms will they both grow back two Wolverines? This whole thing is stupid. Better we just forget he came back from blood or a skeleton rather than to be reminded about it. Character's with limits are far more enjoyable than ones with broken powers. Good grief.

Wolverine only came back from a single drop of blood due to the omnipotent crystal super-charging Logan's mutant healing abilities to cosmic levels; furthermore, in the same Uncanny X-Men Annual #11, Wolverine literally becomes one with the cosmos asking to himself if this is how Jean Grey felt when she became Phoenix. Logan comes to his senses & destroys the cosmic crystal & all of the X-Men are returned to the mansion in costume.

The example the writer gives about Wolverine regenerating from the crystal is the exception to the rule. Wolverine cannot regenerate any organs as he has been shown in recent years. His healing factor would take quite some time--several months--to perform such a feat if at all.

fishtaco
11-22-2006, 08:00 AM
The example the writer gives about Wolverine regenerating from the crystal is the exception to the rule. Wolverine cannot regenerate any organs as he has been shown in recent years. His healing factor would take quite some time--several months--to perform such a feat if at all.Possibly even years, like if his heart gets ripped out.

rwsmith
11-22-2006, 08:08 AM
Didn't Claremont have a plan for Lady Deathstrike to do just that to Logan (i.e., rip his heart out)? I think he said it would've taken months (perhaps even almost a year) for it to grow back, and during that time Logan's body would've started to decompose and his healing factor would've begun to push the adamantium out through his skin. Then Wolverine was supposed to be resurrected as a Hand assassin and eventually Jean Grey would win him back over to the side of the angels, but he wouldn't have adamantium anymore and his healing factor would've been amped up big time.

Sounded like a cool story, and it seems like writers over the years have borrowed elements from it (particularly Millar in 'Enemy of the State').

fishtaco
11-22-2006, 08:16 AM
Didn't Claremont have a plan for Lady Deathstrike to do just that to Logan (i.e., rip his heart out)? I think he said it would've taken months (perhaps even almost a year) for it to grow back, and during that time Logan's body would've started to decompose and his healing factor would've begun to push the adamantium out through his skin. Then Wolverine was supposed to be resurrected as a Hand assassin and eventually Jean Grey would win him back over to the side of the angels, but he wouldn't have adamantium anymore and his healing factor would've been amped up big time.That's all correct, except his healing factor wouldn't have been amped up. He would still have it, but it would just be a little weaker. The point was to humanize him a little more.


Sounded like a cool story, and it seems like writers over the years have borrowed elements from it (particularly Millar in 'Enemy of the State').Yeah, Millar's Enemy of The State was very similar to it.