Resident Evil Questions (spoilers in tags)

[malephoenix]

As those that have gotten to know me on CBR would expect, I've never cared for the gore, or especially the cursing in zombie movies. That doesn't stop me from being amazed at the concept, though for one thing:

The social commentary.

I've never thought about playing the RE games until recently, but I wanted to ask some Qs first from people who knew the material.

1. How much cursing is there? And how extreme is the gore? (Is it like stupid Mortal Kombat gore or realistic, and vomit-inducing?)

2. What are the games, and in which order should I play them, if I do? Including which system. (I know Zero came out after the first few, so should I play it first? And where does stuff like Code: Veronica fit in? And should I do the Gamecube route or stick with the Playstation1 series?)

3. Are they really that scary or is it more cheesy and dumb stuff. Don't front about it. Be honest.

Thanks for the input, everyone.

[Leslie Lee III]

I don't remember any cursing. They're video games, I don't think it's possible yet to get realistic vomit inducing gore. It certainly wasn't when the first games came out. It's bloody, but it's pixels and polygons.

I'd play RE Director's Cut, RE 2, RE 3, Code Veronica, RE Remake, Zero, RE 4. Basically, the order they came out in.

Any cheese is in some of the dialogue. Otherwise the games tale the whole business pretty seriously. It's not comedy horror.

[Guy1]

I honestly don't remember cursing in the series.
The gore is good for a game but not really all that realistic, the game that comes closest to that is Resident Evil 4.
The dialog can be cheesy at times, but the overall plot is good. Though some things require a certain level of suspension of disbelief. Such as Alexia, Morpheous and
Spoilers: Wesker's Upgrades he gets upon his return. End Spoilers.

[Silliw 2]

Does the gore and cursing like, really bother you or something? RE games have the frequent "Damn" or "Hell", but nothing R rated.

And there is plenty of gore (no game has 'Realistic' gore). It's not like, a bunch of intestines hanging out or swimming pools of blood, but if gore disturbs you, then you might want to steer clear.

[Mike Pothier]

If you're looking to save money, don't bother trying to get the GC versions of RE2, RE3 and CV. They were overpriced to begin with and you'll only find them on Ebay now for even more ridiculous prices.

[Sheldon]

There is cursing in RE4. I remember in the first cut scene right after Leon gets attacked by the Ganados in the cabin, he says S^#@#t! Beyond that I really can't remember any other instances.

[Chou Blaster]

The RE4 SPainish Ganados be talknig liek Sialors, in Spainish with foul language.


In the other game sthe worst was Damn or Hell.


The Violence itsle fis not as extremely silly as Mortal Combat.

Thoguh yeah blood bursts and such. Not really full in detail as o damage.

(Hell the wors tin RE1 was blowing pu zombie heads, and well the Snake melting and Plant well turnnig to dust.)

So yeah, Dismemberment is only bad in RE2.

(If you shoot a ZOmbie directly in half, can bisect them and they will crawl after you, cannot see organs or spine or anything.)

RE Games in Canon order.

Zero,1,2,3, CV, 4.

The others are iffity on canon order.

Like Outbreak, ain't relaly canon at all, as non eof it's cahracters are mentioned. (Tohguh Gun SUrvior, Ark and Leon actualy know eahc other.)

[Young Avenger]

The others are iffity on canon order.

Like Outbreak, ain't relaly canon at all, as non eof it's cahracters are mentioned. (Tohguh Gun SUrvior, Ark and Leon actualy know eahc other.)

I would place Resident Evil Survivor taking place before CV. Ark took out the island where the Type-002 Tyrants were mass produced and Leon was working with an anti-umbrella group at the time.

I think Outbreak could be classified as semi-canon. Nicholai was in the first game to blow up Raccoon City University and Kevin sees Clarie and Leon drive by when he leaves the police station in Outbreak 2.

[Sparda]

I'm glad that RE4 got imported to the PS2 but still.......it's just plain wrong that 0 and 1 remake is still for gamecube.

[Silliw 2]

No it's not. About freakin time that RE games were pryed out of Sony's grubby hands. There was no way that REmake and RE0 would have been what they were on the PS2. And I, and many other people loved what they were.

[malephoenix]

If you're looking to save money, don't bother trying to get the GC versions of RE2, RE3 and CV. They were overpriced to begin with and you'll only find them on Ebay now for even more ridiculous prices.

What about the 10th Anniversary Collection for GCN? Isn't that worth it?


Oh, and, out of curiosity,
4. Are there really any connection(s) b/t the games and the movies? I know there are two more flicks in the works. Do they follow the plotlines of the RE1-4 games?

I'd play RE Director's Cut, RE 2, RE 3, Code Veronica, RE Remake, Zero, RE 4. Basically, the order they came out in.

Isn't REmake the same thing as RE Director's cut? Does playing Director's Cut and then playing REmake serve to show how much of an improvement REmake is or is it more for nostolgic reasons? (Or is there another reason all together?)

I'm planning on playing the games on the Gamecube, and aren't RE2 & 3 pretty much just the same?

[Mike Pothier]

What about the 10th Anniversary Collection for GCN? Isn't that worth it?

I dunno, since I haven't bought it. I don't know if it has RE2, 3 and CV.


Oh, and, out of curiosity,
4. Are there really any connection(s) b/t the games and the movies? I know there are two more flicks in the works. Do they follow the plotlines of the RE1-4 games?

AFAIK, the movies are completely seperated from the games.


Isn't REmake the same thing as RE Director's cut? Does playing Director's Cut and then playing REmake serve to show how much of an improvement REmake is or is it more for nostolgic reasons? (Or is there another reason all together?)

REmake is almost a completely new game. The mansion layout was significantly changed, and the order in which you explore it is different. And the zombies are a little different as well. Instead of dying when you pump them full of lead, they will come back later as Crimson Heads, who RUN after you and take out a large chunk of life if they get a hold of you.

I'm planning on playing the games on the Gamecube, and aren't RE2 & 3 pretty much just the same?

Yes. Absolutely nothing was added.

[Silliw 2]

Not only are the movies and games different in story, they also differ in flavor.

RE Movies are heavily action influenced while the games have a slow, eerie pace. Aside from the title and a few characters, the two are almost completely different.

If you enjoyed the movies, don't expect the games to be like them or you will be disapointed.

...dude, just go get the games. They are classics. Each and every one.

[Leslie Lee III]

Oh, and, out of curiosity,
4. Are there really any connection(s) b/t the games and the movies? I know there are two more flicks in the works. Do they follow the plotlines of the RE1-4 games?

There's some relation in characters and situations, but not close at all.

Isn't REmake the same thing as RE Director's cut?

No. Quite different.

I'm planning on playing the games on the Gamecube, and aren't RE2 & 3 pretty much just the same?

No. Quite different. The games aren't incredibly long either, they're all worth playing.

[the_coldest_sun]

RE 2 & 3 are different from EACH OTHER. But as far as if the GC versions are different from their PS1 counterparts, then no. They are direct ports.

[malephoenix]

Thanks, Leslie Lee III, Mike, and everyone else. I'm gonna give these a try, probably starting this weekend since it's Thanksgiving Break.

RE 2 & 3 are different from EACH OTHER. But as far as if the GC versions are different from their PS1 counterparts, then no. They are direct ports.

My bad; yeah, I meant: "Isn't RE2 on Gamecube the same as it is for PS, and the same for #3"?

(By "direct port" do you mean there's no new material, or that even the graphics are literally the same?)

[Young Avenger]

(By "direct port" do you mean there's no new material, or that even the graphics are literally the same?)

Yes, that's what he means by direct port. No new material and nothing has been changed.

[malephoenix]

Yes, that's what he means by direct port. No new material and nothing has been changed.

Wow. That's ridiculous. Why is there no graphics improvement from Palystation 1 to Gamecube?


I'm going to try Director's Cut on my PS2 (I know it's a PS1 game) and if it's for me, then I'll go on to 2 and 3, still on the PS instead of GCN since I can apparently pay less for the same material. Then I'll do C:V (should I do PS or GCN version?). And then move to Gamecube/Wii for REmake Zero, and RE4. Does that order (and systems) sound like the best way to go?

[Leslie Lee III]

Wow. That's ridiculous. Why is there no graphics improvement from Palystation 1 to Gamecube?


I'm going to try Director's Cut on my PS2 (I know it's a PS1 game) and if it's for me, then I'll go on to 2 and 3, still on the PS instead of GCN since I can apparently pay less for the same material. Then I'll do C:V (should I do PS or GCN version?). And then move to Gamecube/Wii for REmake Zero, and RE4. Does that order (and systems) sound like the best way to go?

The graphics are better I'm sure, but it's essentially the same games.

If you don't like RE:DC still check out RE 4, because it is nothing like any of the previous RE games.

[Sparda]

Ok here's my qustion, since I'm getting the gamecube for the RE remake and 0, I also have the PS2 so which version of RE 4 should I get? PS2 or GC?

[Mike Pothier]

Whichever you can get cheaper. Its basically the same game. The PS2 version has some extra content, but its not warranting a new purchase of you have the GC version. And visa-versa, the GC version has slightly (like, only if you compare screenshots) better graphics, and IMO the controls are better on the GC controller.

[malephoenix]

Ok here's my qustion, since I'm getting the gamecube for the RE remake and 0, I also have the PS2 so which version of RE 4 should I get? PS2 or GC?

By all means, get the anniversary collection (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product_id=220267). That's what I'm about to do.

[Silliw 2]

Holy Damn Sauce, that's a good deal!

[GodSmackingReptile]

Ok here's my qustion, since I'm getting the gamecube for the RE remake and 0, I also have the PS2 so which version of RE 4 should I get? PS2 or GC?
i would go with the PS2 version. now im just saying that because i played on the PS2 and it was the best game that i have played for that consoul (beside God of War. That is my favorite game to come out for anything so yeah) plus the graphics were kick butt, but i never witnessed the Game cube in action before so i dont know how it would compare. still i say that you should get the PS2 vesion...............................PS2PS2PS2PS2P S2PS2PS2PS2PS2PS2PS2PS2PS2PS2PS2.............PS2!! !

[ocelotrevs]

I only remember a couple words in RE4. Nothing too heavy mind.
Other than that, just the odd "hell" or "damn" every once or twice.

The gore level is also light, nothing over the top. Just a few heads exploding in RE:4 and things being blasted, as well as heads being slice off in a single blow but I wouldn't call any of it vomit enducing.

Unless you had a really weak stomach.

[GodSmackingReptile]

I only remember a couple words in RE4. Nothing too heavy mind.
Other than that, just the odd "hell" or "damn" every once or twice.

The gore level is also light, nothing over the top. Just a few heads exploding in RE:4 and things being blasted, as well as heads being slice off in a single blow but I wouldn't call any of it vomit enducing.

Unless you had a really weak stomach.
When you arrive in the castle and get past the gate (were you must crank up the cannon to blow it up) Lois Sera runs in to hand Leon the serum, and ends up saying sh^t but thats not that big of a deal. the only thing that disturbed me in this game is when guys with chainsaws come at you and saw off your head-that and Saddler's killer penis.

[Silliw 2]

that and Saddler's killer penis.

What the Snap?

They must have added lethal genitals to the PS2 version, cause I don't remember that particular event.

[Mike Pothier]

I believe he's referring to the appendage that kills Luis in the castle.

I have to admit, that threw me for a loop as well.

[riftt]

first click here (http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com)

then here (http://www.godisimaginary.com)

[malephoenix]

first click here (http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com)

then here (http://www.godisimaginary.com)

What is the point of putting that in this thread? Maybe I missed something.

[Mike Pothier]

first click here (http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com)

then here (http://www.godisimaginary.com)

What do either of those have to do with Resident Evil?

[riftt]

What is the point of putting that in this thread? Maybe I missed something.
to help you out in regard to the general tone and reasoning behind your initial post as well as in your mystery recovery.

[malephoenix]

That's really not the point of what I was trying to convey.

If I understand correctly, you're saying that since these links say God doesn't exist, I shouldn't care about cursing, and that I shouldn't be trying to use Celebrate Recovery? (I want to make sure I understand.)

[ghostrider666]

A little late in the thread, but here goes. Get the gaes for GC. Play them in order, 0-4. I've played them all, & am addicted to the RE series. And I'm not really into video games, if that makes any sense. The only 1 that really dosent fit & is kinda bizzare is Code:veronica X.
And as curses go, I think there are 2 "shits" in 4.

[Sparda]

Guys be honest with me. Will there be a Snowball's chance in hell that the Remake and 0 will be ported to the PS2?

Even RE4 being ported looked almost identical to the GC version and I really don't wanna buy a gamecube just to buy those games ( I already got the PSX version but really wanna play the remake).

If they can't port the remake or 0 then I understand. I guess I might have to let go of those 2 :(

[Young Avenger]

Guys be honest with me. Will there be a Snowball's chance in hell that the Remake and 0 will be ported to the PS2?

Even RE4 being ported looked almost identical to the GC version and I really don't wanna buy a gamecube just to buy those games ( I already got the PSX version but really wanna play the remake).

If they can't port the remake or 0 then I understand. I guess I might have to let go of those 2 :(

Doesn't look like it. I was in the same position as you. I got lucky since my cousin got a Gamecube and he has RE0. Now if I can get him to buy REmake. :evilsmile

[Sheldon]

Guys be honest with me. Will there be a Snowball's chance in hell that the Remake and 0 will be ported to the PS2?

Even RE4 being ported looked almost identical to the GC version and I really don't wanna buy a gamecube just to buy those games ( I already got the PSX version but really wanna play the remake).

If they can't port the remake or 0 then I understand. I guess I might have to let go of those 2 :(

RE4 did look pretty close on PS2, but did suffer a bit, for example they had to pre-render the cutscenes, so the characters's costumes were always the same in them. Also the lighting just didn't seem as good. But I doubt those would be as big a problem for REmake or 0, as they are older games.

Anyways you can get a Gamecube for pretty cheap these days Or you can get the Wii and play them on that.

[Doom]

Just to pip in, If you are having difficulties tracking down the original Resident Evil or the Director's Cut, you could get Resident Evil: Deadly Silence on the Nintendo DS.

It's the original (or an upgraded version with cool knife fights) on a handheld. It's also better to play since the controls allow you to move around quicker, your knife doesn't take up an inventory slot and you can skip the Door scenes by pressing a button.

[malephoenix]

So I tried out the RE: DC today for the first time. I had a walk-through helping me get used to the game, so most of the scares didn't get me. (But even knowing it was coming, the first dog-through-the-window made me jump.) I look forward to getting used to it enough so I can go along without the walkthrough. These controls are just ridiculous. I get that they want you to be able to back up w/o turning around, but man it sucks. Wasn't there a better way to do that?

And you're all right about the voice acting. PAINFUL. And really brings you out of the game. (Does anyone know if it's just Japanese dialogue translated? That's what it sounds like. "It's a lockpick. Maybe something that can be used by you, the master of unlocking.")

[Sparda]

So I tried out the RE: DC today for the first time. I had a walk-through helping me get used to the game, so most of the scares didn't get me. (But even knowing it was coming, the first dog-through-the-window made me jump.) I look forward to getting used to it enough so I can go along without the walkthrough. These controls are just ridiculous. I get that they want you to be able to back up w/o turning around, but man it sucks. Wasn't there a better way to do that?

And you're all right about the voice acting. PAINFUL. And really brings you out of the game. (Does anyone know if it's just Japanese dialogue translated? That's what it sounds like. "It's a lockpick. Maybe something that can be used by you, the master of unlocking.")
RE in japan does'nt have japanese voice acting, they actually have english voice acting for the games to make the characters sound american. They do subtitle it in japanese though.

Even though I've played RE remake, I would still play DC, though it would'nt be as fun as the remake though.

Plot holes that I saw in RE was that how come the victims who were attacked in the Forest, did'nt rise up and become zombies? And on another note when the zombies and dogs just finish up thier meal, they just left the corpse behind without completely finishing thier meal? And when the mansion exploded, did Umbrella send in a clean up crew to finish off the dogs and zombies that still lurk in the forests?

Those are just plot holes that I've seen in the first game, while others don't really much have one but the series in itself is hella fun.

[Young Avenger]

And you're all right about the voice acting. PAINFUL. And really brings you out of the game. (Does anyone know if it's just Japanese dialogue translated? That's what it sounds like. "It's a lockpick. Maybe something that can be used by you, the master of unlocking.")

The voicing is painful but you'll grow to love it. It has that "it's so bad that it's good" quality to it.

[Donald M.]

Oh yeah, in case no one else has yet, if you're interested in Resident Evil I'd also recommend checking out the Silent Hill series. No swearing, little gore, the scares come from disturbing atmosphere and the freaky creatures that populate the town of Silent Hill, not from exploding guts. (Which is never scary anyway.)

[Donald M.]

So I tried out the RE: DC today for the first time. I had a walk-through helping me get used to the game, so most of the scares didn't get me. (But even knowing it was coming, the first dog-through-the-window made me jump.) I look forward to getting used to it enough so I can go along without the walkthrough. These controls are just ridiculous. I get that they want you to be able to back up w/o turning around, but man it sucks. Wasn't there a better way to do that?


RE4 does away with this, thankfully.

RE4 is basically a new start for the series with no real connection to the earlier games. You can skip ahead to 4 if you want, or you can play all the other games first and that way, you'll appreciate 4 all the more.

[DarkSoldier]

And when the mansion exploded, did Umbrella send in a clean up crew to finish off the dogs and zombies that still lurk in the forests? Considering where the Arklay facility, the Training facility, and Birkin's laboratory were built, it's like Umbrella wanted a large-scale outbreak in Raccoon City.

The T-Virus is communicable by insects, birds, and small mammals, which are plentiful in a forest. Who knows how much of it was released when the mansion exploded?

Of course, that's all irrelevant, what with the zombie outbreak (thank you Birkin, UBCS, and opportunistic rats) and then the city going kablooie.

[Sparda]

Here I am playing Professional mode on RE 4 and I can get by easy if I'm care ful but what ticks me off is that my finger bloody hurts like hell just to tap the x button while running away from that damn boulder and after nearly escaping, I'm stuff where I fight that huge ass fish, just cause I'm not tapping the X fast enough errrr:mad:

I gotta get me a PS2 controller with auto fire. You guys know where I can get one?

[I Must Break U]

god this thread just reminds me how awesome the residdeent evil series is!
if you're gonna play the play them in order RE0, RE1,RE3,RE2,CODE VERONICA,RE4. I believe thas the storyline order someone feel free to correct me

[Sparda]

god this thread just reminds me how awesome the residdeent evil series is!
if you're gonna play the play them in order RE0, RE1,RE3,RE2,CODE VERONICA,RE4. I believe thas the storyline order someone feel free to correct me
Great list and order if you exclude the crappy spin offs like dead aim and survivor series. RE3 is sort of a prequel and a sequel to part 2 (after jill lies down and get's infected, 24 hours later takes place after 2).

Personally just play them in number order. Playing 2 sees on why/ and how the T-virus spread throughout the city, and 3 show's on how devasted the city is and other bad schemes umbrella is up to. I do enjoy and love the gun powder game play the game had. If I had anything to complain about RE 4, it's that it does'nt have the awesomeness of making choices of having different ending's like the rest of the series but other than that, the game is fun as hell and addicting and a brand new, nice freshness of gameplay. It was getting tiresome by controlling a character like a tank with auto aim so change is good :)

[Metronome35]

So I tried out the RE: DC today for the first time. I had a walk-through helping me get used to the game, so most of the scares didn't get me. (But even knowing it was coming, the first dog-through-the-window made me jump.) I look forward to getting used to it enough so I can go along without the walkthrough. These controls are just ridiculous. I get that they want you to be able to back up w/o turning around, but man it sucks. Wasn't there a better way to do that?

And you're all right about the voice acting. PAINFUL. And really brings you out of the game. (Does anyone know if it's just Japanese dialogue translated? That's what it sounds like. "It's a lockpick. Maybe something that can be used by you, the master of unlocking.")
The controls, voice-acting and dialogue improve little by little as the series goes on. The acting never actually becomes good, but Resident Evil 1/Director's Cut has the worst in the series, though it does have its fans. The controls get new features along the way that help you. RE2 introduces auto-aim, where when you raise a weapon your character will turn to face the nearest available target, RE3 & Code Veronica have the 180° turn, and Three has dodging(a feature where pressing either Aim or Fire just before an enemy attacks you will make your character evade it) though it's a feature that wasn't put in any of the other games.