Civil War #5 Spoilers & Review [Archive] - Page 3

Brian M.

11-20-2006, 07:20 AM

Wait, so it was Iron Fist who was getting locked up? Hmm interesting

Yea. I believe Murdock wanted Danny to act like him while he was in prison, now that he's out of prison and in Paris he still needs Danny Rand/Iron Fist to keep up the cherade.

DoctorDoom

11-20-2006, 10:10 AM

My two-cents:

1. The crime may be all-time low. But there is also almost no crime in Latveria. And it is said during the reign of vlad tepes the crime was also very low.
So the fact alone that there is an all-time low on crime does not mean it is a good thing.

2. Iron Mans attack on Peter is not justified. Peter has the right to leave when he wants. It is his right. Otherwise it is slavery. And even if Iron Man wanted only to speak to Spidey, he has no right to use violence to force Spidey to listen to him.
It's a VERY good thing.

Just look at Latveria. 'nuff said.

hitokiri_

11-20-2006, 10:13 AM

first: why is tigra even on the resistance? in CW 2 and 3, she's on the pro reg. then now she's on cap's side? is there an issue where she shifted sides?

second: on DD's case. when sue and johnny entered the meeting, DD was there, after punisher's entrance, DD got captured. what happened?

also, about the coin, in CW 1, DD is shown playing with a coin in the baxter building, then in ish 5, he gave one to stark. so. . . what's up with that?

DoctorDoom

11-20-2006, 10:13 AM

I read the issue yesterday. It was decent but I didn't like Spider-Man getting destroyed like that while Punisher gets to make the big save. AMS #536 better make up for that.
Peter's still going to get destroyed , except probably by a few more villains than just Jester and Mad Jack/JackoLantern/DeadPumpkinGuy

Magneto Rocks

11-20-2006, 10:21 AM

first: why is tigra even on the resistance? in CW 2 and 3, she's on the pro reg. then now she's on cap's side? is there an issue where she shifted sides?

She shifted sides between 4 and 5 but is secretly still pro-reg.

second: on DD's case. when sue and johnny entered the meeting, DD was there, after punisher's entrance, DD got captured. what happened?

The second part occurs some days later.

also, about the coin, in CW 1, DD is shown playing with a coin in the baxter building, then in ish 5, he gave one to stark. so. . . what's up with that?

...THe same coin?

DoctorDoom

11-20-2006, 10:25 AM

Magneto Rocks answered it all, but as for the coin...ummmm....It's really Harvey Dent posing as Iron fist posing as Daredevil?

Ernasto

11-20-2006, 11:45 AM

Are we even sure it's Matt Murdock who is captured? We saw in CW: Choosing Sides that Iron Fist uses the Daredevil suit next to Matt Murdock himself.

hitokiri_

11-20-2006, 12:08 PM

Are we even sure it's Matt Murdock who is captured? We saw in CW: Choosing Sides that Iron Fist uses the Daredevil suit next to Matt Murdock himself.

im pretty sure that it was iron fist who got captured.

wouldn't it be great if tigra was calling her MJ and aunt may not the pro reg camp? :D

you guys noticed punisher's sniper rifle? when he entered the scene, it's very huge, when tigra was shown talking with someone, it was reduced to a toy sword. hehehe.

hitokiri_

11-20-2006, 12:09 PM

Magneto Rocks answered it all, but as for the coin...ummmm....It's really Harvey Dent posing as Iron fist posing as Daredevil?

now that would be really interesting.

Thursaiz

11-20-2006, 12:21 PM

Magneto Rocks answered it all, but as for the coin...ummmm....It's really Harvey Dent posing as Iron fist posing as Daredevil?

Strangest plot twist ever...

Love Machine

11-20-2006, 12:36 PM

This to me represents where their "relationship" is...it seems it's beyond saving and that to me confirms it, from here on out...stark is a villan in the marvel universe.

Or at least til his movie comes out next year....:evilsmile

The Recluse

11-20-2006, 12:39 PM

Exactly. No doubt in a Daredevil Proof Cell. Which would be useless against Iron Fist. ;)Amazing how a group of geniuses and world class superheroes don't think to check who's under the masks before exiling guys to the Negative Zone.

:rolleyes:

TotalWorldDomination

11-20-2006, 12:41 PM

See, that's the big secret behind Civil War AND 52. It's all a sequel to the JLA/Avengers crossover!

Alex Luthor, Captain America and Tony Stark are preparing to use the N-Zone to fuse the DC universe and the Marvel Universe together (keeping the Marvel U busy by the Civil War while DC is busy dealing with a world without Bat, Sups and WW). DD is secretly harvey dent, Supernova is secretly Professor X (repowered by Quicksilver who is secretly the power that makes Lex Luthor's metagene therapy work), Adam Strange, Starfire and Animal Man are rushing towards the Anhilation Wave and Reed Richards' 42 is actual Earth-42... The future merger of DC and Marvel.

It almost makes sense now.

Magneto Rocks

11-20-2006, 02:32 PM

Amazing how a group of geniuses and world class superheroes don't think to check who's under the masks before exiling guys to the Negative Zone.

:rolleyes:

Except it's been confirmed that they do.

<watches argument get brutally shot down and crash into the ocean>

How many times dowe really need to repeat this? Does NO-ONE read the site of the writer?

hitokiri_

11-20-2006, 03:14 PM

...THe same coin?

its not a coincidence for sure.

Beast

11-20-2006, 03:21 PM

Except it's been confirmed that they do.

<watches argument get brutally shot down and crash into the ocean>

How many times dowe really need to repeat this? Does NO-ONE read the site of the writer?
Why would we want to? We shouldn't have to go online to find out what the hell is going on.

stinkin lincoln

11-20-2006, 03:31 PM

Niro

11-20-2006, 03:37 PM

Matt Murdock is in Paris. Because that's not Daredevil. That's still Iron Fist. It's the same coin he was rolling across his knuckles in Civil War #1 during the meeting in Avengers Tower.

Judas was paid 30 silver pieces to betray Jesus Christ to the Romans. It's referring to that. Also the coin was noted as being held under Daredevil's tongue, which relates to the ancient Greek practice of putting a silver coin under the tongue so that the spirt of the dead could pay Charon for passage to the Underworld.

damnn i was wonderin the same thing and u answered it LIKE THAT lol.

but wow the writers put some deep thought into that, its nice to see clever stuff like that in comics these days

Niro

11-20-2006, 03:51 PM

I hate Tigra, dumb snitch :mad:

Will.S

11-20-2006, 05:47 PM

Except it's been confirmed that they do.

<watches argument get brutally shot down and crash into the ocean>

How many times dowe really need to repeat this? Does NO-ONE read the site of the writer?
Did Mark say that this would happen in the next issue or that they gave him a thorough identity check and are still placing him in a cell set for Matt Murdock?

Conn Seanery

11-20-2006, 06:21 PM

I think Quesada, Millar and Brubaker were not on the same page with Daredevil in the first place. Within the pages of Civil War has there ever been a reference to Danny Rand taking Matt's place? The comment this Daredevil made about Judas is something Matt would say, being the Catholic that he is. I think Millar and Quesada didn't know the storyline for Daredevil. Think about it - in the battle in 3 and 4 don't you think Danny would have used the fist? Don't you think they would have checked to see if they had Matt in #5?
Who cares? Who even says there has to be a reference? What if the reference is coming up? If it really is Danny Rand in there, why not have it revealed in the next issue?

Think about it, if someone is reading Civil War only, and has (no matter how unlikely) somehow avoided finding out that Iron Fist has been running around dressed up like Daredevil, this makes for a nice reveal. In the event that Iron Fist being Iron Fist becomes a factor (as in using his powers to escape/start a major breakout in a way Daredevil couldn't), it's just not important to the story. Personally, I think it's absolutely perfect that there's been no reference to it.

jackolover

11-20-2006, 06:49 PM

Personally, I think it's absolutely perfect that there's been no reference to it.

It is kinda cool. In 5 long issues, not once has Cap made mention that it's Danny. For it to be a surprise reveal later on, would make good reading. It's like Danny is a plant, but not for the pro-side. Just a piece of disinformation. It looks like the DD secret identity will become important in the Brubaker arc, somewhere later.

Will.S

11-20-2006, 07:13 PM

It is kinda cool. In 5 long issues, not once has Cap made mention that it's Danny. For it to be a surprise reveal later on, would make good reading. It's like Danny is a plant, but not for the pro-side. Just a piece of disinformation. It looks like the DD secret identity will become important in the Brubaker arc, somewhere later.
Yeah, I figure it'll be as cool a reveal as the one in Brubaker's DD where you see the Iron Fist light up and the crowd goes wild.

jackolover

11-20-2006, 07:25 PM

Yeah, I figure it'll be as cool a reveal as the one in Brubaker's DD where you see the Iron Fist light up and the crowd goes wild.

That would be an even better twist, showing Matt and Danny made a switch that we didn't know about.

LongTimeReaderBR

11-20-2006, 08:00 PM

That would be an even better twist, showing Matt and Danny made a switch that we didn't know about.

I might be mistaken, but doesn't "Civil War: Choosing Sides" (a civil-war specific tie-in) show very explicit that Iron Fist took the place of Matt as DareDevil? It even had the dialogue between the two, when Matt asks Randy to do it.

Will.S

11-20-2006, 08:11 PM

I might be mistaken, but doesn't "Civil War: Choosing Sides" (a civil-war specific tie-in) show very explicit that Iron Fist took the place of Matt as DareDevil? It even had the dialogue between the two, when Matt asks Randy to do it.
Yeah, Danny is for the moment pulling double duty moonlighting as DD and Iron Fist at the same time.

bulbasteve

11-20-2006, 08:18 PM

Dude, seriously people nothing is going to happen with Iron Fist/DD, NOTHING.

Look here is the quote:

The heroes are obviously unmasked when they go to jail. The authorities know who each of them are. This is Danny Rand, of course, but I didn't want to confuse an already vast storyline with more characters than the usual crossover by going into the set-up in current DD with another hero posing as him. As far as this book's concerned, it's just DD. That's all that matters, though regular DD readers will know it's Rand as Matt was in prison when this all kicked off.

MM

OK? No twist. Can we drop it finally?

DoctorDoom

11-20-2006, 10:46 PM

Dude, seriously people nothing is going to happen with Iron Fist/DD, NOTHING.

Look here is the quote:

OK? No twist. Can we drop it finally?
Yes we can. Good job Watcher.

Exodus

11-20-2006, 10:58 PM

About Capt. America taking in the Punisher.
Some ppl see it as out of character for cap?

I would disagree.
After all Cap seems to be treating this like a war, and he has been in war before.

Sure during peace time u take ppl like the Punisher to jail.
But during a war theres always that one guy who goes gun crazy, and starts killing germans with an almost religious frenzy. Maybe even killing some POWs from time to time, weve all seen Band of Brothers right.

Well, during a war those guys are good to have, simply cuz u need all the help u can get just to stay alive. I think Cap is kinda having abit of a war flashback when it comes to Frank Castle.

-Exodus

Chinofish

11-21-2006, 12:18 AM

If you look closely enough you will find the answer to your question. The reason for the coin is simple....Superheroes don't have pockets! I dare you try to find one! If they did they wouldnt have to put change in their mouths. THats friggin disgusting!

Seriously i dont know, i never knew IFist had a thing for coins. But if you were looking for the actual reference:

Judas was bribed with 30 silver coins to betray Jesus by sabatoging him to give the Romans a reason to arrest him. IF is calling tony a judas and now he has 30 + 1 (carry the decimal) = 31 coins!
maybe this is a prelude as to what will happen i think someone said that IF was caught on purpose to give caps team a in, so in effect Tony SOLD OUT.

Madison Carter

11-21-2006, 12:42 AM

Strangest plot twist ever...

Well, there's at least one reality out there where Dent and Murdock attended law school together, so....

jackolover

11-21-2006, 01:13 AM

CW 5 seems like a breath is being taken. So much drama and sensationalism in all the other issues, so far, but CW 5 is a cozy little gem, (all because of the TBolts not tearing Peter apart).

Peters apparant defection (he hasn't woken up yet to join Caps side).
The introduction of Punisher
The 3 plans of Cap
The Tigra furfy
The arrest and deportation to the NZ of DD.

It seems to take place within about 2 days, while other issues can stretch to weeks. CW 5 almost seems like it could be a double issue, because hardly anything really got done. But you can almost hear, in the background, the pro-regs gearing up, for what effect Spideys defection is going to cause. As little as this issue has delivered, (most of us anticipated what was to happen from ASM 535), I think the cat has been thrown in amongst the pigeons.

When CW 6 hits the stands, there will be a few big questions that have to be answered.

Does Spidey take part in any battles against the pro-side?
How are the pro-side going to take Peters defection?
Will we at last see the Zemo device in action?
Who is the banana man?
Will the CW: Return occur because of CW 6?

jackolover

11-21-2006, 01:20 AM

Dude, seriously people nothing is going to happen with Iron Fist/DD, NOTHING.

Look here is the quote:

OK? No twist. Can we drop it finally?

The Quote from Millar doesn't really clear anything up. How I read it is, that the authorities, and the readers, are supposed to think it's DD (not Danny Rand). So maybe Danny doesn't use his Iron Fist. He just sits in prison and does nothin', and doesn't let the cat out of the bag, (that DD is not Matt Murdoch)

Sean Whitmore

11-21-2006, 01:23 AM

The Quote from Millar doesn't really clear anything up. How I read it is, that the authorities, and the readers, are supposed to think it's DD (not Danny Rand). So maybe Danny doesn't use his Iron Fist. He just sits in prison and does nothin', and doesn't let the cat out of the bag, (that DD is not Matt Murdoch)

Well, it debunks the theory that Danny is going to use his iron fist to break out of prison because the police were too stupid to look under his mask, which was a source of consternation to some people.

SEAN

Hulk Strongest One

11-21-2006, 10:35 AM

Dude, seriously people nothing is going to happen with Iron Fist/DD, NOTHING.

Look here is the quote:

OK? No twist. Can we drop it finally?

Is Daredevil's identity known to anyone on the pro side? (I don't know, don't read DD.) If not, and they unmask him, they don't know him from Adam's off ox.

Haunt

11-21-2006, 01:58 PM

Is Daredevil's identity known to anyone on the pro side? (I don't know, don't read DD.) If not, and they unmask him, they don't know him from Adam's off ox.

Reed Richards knows.

jackolover

11-21-2006, 03:09 PM

Reed Richards knows.

How does he know?

Haunt

11-21-2006, 03:14 PM

How does he know?

i honestly don't remember.

jackolover

11-21-2006, 03:33 PM

i honestly don't remember.

We're a couple of no hopers. I can't recall Reed finding out DD is Danny Rand, either. And I can't see any opportunity that Reed would have in finding out

Nate Palm

11-21-2006, 03:36 PM

Is Daredevil's identity known to anyone on the pro side? (I don't know, don't read DD.) If not, and they unmask him, they don't know him from Adam's off ox.

Well if it's known to Iron Man then it's known to all Pro-Reg'ers. He made it quite clear in ASM that he was using all secret identities he knew of against anyone who didn't register.

bulbasteve

11-21-2006, 03:52 PM

The Quote from Millar doesn't really clear anything up. How I read it is, that the authorities, and the readers, are supposed to think it's DD (not Danny Rand). So maybe Danny doesn't use his Iron Fist. He just sits in prison and does nothin', and doesn't let the cat out of the bag, (that DD is not Matt Murdoch)

... So did you read it by totally ignoring what it says? Seriously...how can you not understand "The heroes are obviously unmasked when they go to jail. The authorities know who each of them are."? I mean...come on.

Let's even go to a crazy universe where we assume Tony does not who Iron Fist really is. Don't you think the GIANT FREAKIN DRAGON TATTOO kind of gives away who he is?

jackolover

11-21-2006, 06:42 PM

... So did you read it by totally ignoring what it says? Seriously...how can you not understand "The heroes are obviously unmasked when they go to jail. The authorities know who each of them are."? I mean...come on.

Let's even go to a crazy universe where we assume Tony does not who Iron Fist really is. Don't you think the GIANT FREAKIN DRAGON TATTOO kind of gives away who he is?

Yeah. I notice in Frontline, all inmates are wearing prison clothes, so with that going on, the tattoo, and the, (I don't know), finger prints, that may just give it away. So, Iron Fist really doesn't keep Matty's secret, unless the breakout starts before they process DD. Because for Millar to keep DD's secret, his processing can't occur in the NZ

bulbasteve

11-21-2006, 08:07 PM

Yeah. I notice in Frontline, all inmates are wearing prison clothes, so with that going on, the tattoo, and the, (I don't know), finger prints, that may just give it away. So, Iron Fist really doesn't keep Matty's secret, unless the breakout starts before they process DD. Because for Millar to keep DD's secret, his processing can't occur in the NZ

Damnit we are supposed to be debating here! Mention that lame skrull organ plot point in Heroes for Hire! I can't have people starting to agree...this is madness!

But yeah fingerprints...I didn't even think of that...still giant tattoo...don't these costumes get ripped more often? And...how the heck does he keep his own secret identity as Iron Fist? Unless that poor man doesn't get laid....

Haunt

11-21-2006, 08:17 PM

Damnit we are supposed to be debating here! Mention that lame skrull organ plot point in Heroes for Hire! I can't have people starting to agree...this is madness!

But yeah fingerprints...I didn't even think of that...still giant tattoo...don't these costumes get ripped more often? And...how the heck does he keep his own secret identity as Iron Fist? Unless that poor man doesn't get laid....

he doesn't have a secret identity. 'Iron Fist' is a title that he earned by defeating a dragon. that "costume" he's wearing is ceremonial. when he joined up with Cage, neither one of them made a big deal about concealing their identities. it'd be kind of easy to figure it out since everyone knows who Luke Cage, the two lived together, and Danny is a skinny white guy in and out of costume.

P.S. Tony would definately know who Iron Fist is because he was there (w/ other heroes) visiting Danny when he was in the hospital; prior to Captain Hero murdering him.

marvelboi77

11-21-2006, 09:27 PM

I'm enjoying the tie-in titles way more than the flag ship book. They can keep Civil War running late for all I care, it's died for me.

Lex

11-21-2006, 09:42 PM

Well, you made your case for SOUTH Dakota...now make one for NORTH Dakota. What are they needed for, to defend the border against illegal immigrants from Canada?

I'm sure Mt. Rushmore gets attacked plenty (the Red Skull actually WOULD find that a good target), but really you need one super-team just for NYC or Washington D.C., with super-densities of monuments and high value. Putting one in every state is just ridiculous. Who's going to attack Rhode Island or Wyoming, except as a stopover for more interesting targets? Kansas? Nebraska?
You have a point. Going by population density (also factoring in likely villain targets) seems more logical. I could see most of the teams consentrating on the coasts and other high-pop areas (I'd actually keep two or three teams in NYC and D.C.). And maybe one team could cover the Upper Midwest. That seems reasonable.

DoctorDoom

11-21-2006, 10:21 PM

woo hoo 400th post! A Civil War tie-in!

Amazing's out today and can't wait to see the Spidey vs Pro fight :)

NickThompson

11-22-2006, 09:30 AM

i honestly don't remember.
http://www.manwithoutfear.com/ddIDEN.shtml

Reed Richards definitely knows, as was shown in DD II#56

Other pro-reggers that know - Iron Man, Black Widow, Spidey (He was pro reg once :) ), Black Cat.

jjac28

11-22-2006, 10:22 AM

spidey beaten by jester and jack o lantern thats bull, same with spidey not being able to go through the glass...and where his spidey sense??

he beat jack o lantern number of times before without any difficulty. he should have faced a much stronger enemy than these two. spidey has taken much more puinishment from stronger opponents before and kept fighting on.

spidey is always shown as the underdog :confused:

PatchMadripoor

11-22-2006, 12:28 PM

I was about to comment on the Spidey sense myself.

you knw you read way to many comics when you dream a particular scene from Civil War (the chase down the sewers)...

anyways, Spidey should have sensed all of the Jester and Jack-O-Lantern's attacks. Iron Man made it a big deal to keep Spidey close to use the Spider-sense, so all of a sudden it's gone. What is up with that?

it alone shouldhave told him the glass was reinforced.

MadroxTMMan

11-22-2006, 12:52 PM

You can't overlook the Spidey-sense...unless your books are late and you can't go back and re-write it. Just carelessness with continuity on Marvel's part. DC used to do the same thing when the Wally West Flash was super-powerful, they would "conveniently" forget half of his powers to advance a story. Sad.

BetterThanYou

11-22-2006, 12:55 PM

I flipped through this at the store, I gave it up at #3 and nothing I have seen or heard has convinced me to start parting with my money again.

NickThompson

11-22-2006, 01:59 PM

Considering Spidey was in danger throughout, would his sense be able to highlight specific things? For example, how would he know the window is a problem when he is being shot at?

Sean Whitmore

11-22-2006, 03:19 PM

You can't overlook the Spidey-sense...

Of course you can. Everyone does it once in a while. Stan Lee included.

SEAN

XPac

11-22-2006, 03:23 PM

Sean Whitmore

11-22-2006, 03:30 PM

It is true that writers overlook Spiderman's spider senses all the time. Sometimes I guess it's just an inconvininet power from a writing standpoint.

That said, it's still a valid criticism anytime a writer does so.

That's true. It's just that a lot of the responses we've seen to this case make it sound like Spider-Man all of a sudden sprouted a second head or something. :)

SEAN

El Santo

11-22-2006, 09:58 PM

I'm probably alone here, but I loved the Daredevil line with the silver dollar. In every culture on earth, among cops, criminals, soldiers, anyone...there is nothing more despised than a traitor. :cool:

Exodus

11-23-2006, 02:03 AM

Unfortunetly this issue felt more like a filler to me.
Nothing really happend in THIS issue, it was all bouncing off stuff happening elsewhere.

-Exodus

The Real Rogue

11-23-2006, 03:30 AM

It was annouched somewhere that in another issue there will be more on the capture of Cloak & Dagger, does anyone remember in what issue this will be?

The Real Rogue

11-23-2006, 03:30 AM

It was annouched somewhere that in another issue there will be more on the capture of Cloak & Dagger, does anyone remember in what issue this will be?

ADamiani

11-23-2006, 10:09 AM

You have a point. Going by population density (also factoring in likely villain targets) seems more logical. I could see most of the teams consentrating on the coasts and other high-pop areas (I'd actually keep two or three teams in NYC and D.C.). And maybe one team could cover the Upper Midwest. That seems reasonable.

I just assumed they'd vary the team size and composition according to threat level.

You know, something like:

New York gets the X-men
Washington DC gets the New Avengers
Washington State gets the Power Pack
Montana gets "The Great Plains Avengers"-- which is really just Tito Bohusk, Squirrel Girl and Rodney from accounting.

garin

11-23-2006, 05:01 PM

I think the idea that Pete's Spider-Sense may have been "overloaded" at the time has value. Having revealed himself and his family to his enemies, and now pitting himself against the resources of SHIELD and the pro-reg heroes, he's in a hell of a lot of danger (and probably peeing his pants a little).

XPac

11-23-2006, 05:05 PM

Plus, it's Jester. A well-written Jester really shouldn't have set off Peter's spider senses anyways.

jackolover

11-23-2006, 06:07 PM

Unfortunetly this issue felt more like a filler to me.
Nothing really happend in THIS issue, it was all bouncing off stuff happening elsewhere.

-Exodus

Actually, CW 5 is in a series that came out in the last 2 weeks, so we can read it as 4 books:
ASM 535, CW 5, ASM 536, Pun 1, so it appears to be a 4 book story, CW 5.

The Fury

11-24-2006, 04:09 AM

Finally read it.

This issue was odd, and like most of the other issues, time seems to jump, I'm thinking to tie into the other CW books?

But the story is also developing weirdly as well, more people part of the anti side (BAD Girls Inc. :D) and Punishers appearence was cool. The Pro side capturing the heroes and locking them up is such a big way is odd.

My only problem with this all so far is they are making the Pro side out to be the socalled 'bad side'. When they just have a different perspective.. What-his-name Hawk and Stature put it well though.

I noticed the Spider-sense thing too but didn't worry about it.

SnakeEater

11-26-2006, 12:18 PM

That's true. It's just that a lot of the responses we've seen to this case make it sound like Spider-Man all of a sudden sprouted a second head or something. :)

SEAN

I have been readint this everywhere and its actually starting to bother me alot. there is a clear explanation about his spider-sense and its not even something im pulling out of air.

In Sensational Spider-man 31, when Peter visits Liz Allen and is attacked by Molten Man he says, and i qoute:

"A Set-up. And i walked RIGHT into it. Since I unmasked, my spider-sense has been bussing constantly. Everythings a threat now, and the real ones stand out less"

Now for him to get his butt handed to him in the sewers by Jack and Jester, its not hard to believe. He is currently running form sheild agents underground. I have said this before in this same thread. HE IS UNDERGROUND and shield agents could be above him everywhere. he is worred about MJ and Aunt May since his unmasking and anyone could be hanging around the next corner in those sewers, but he is currently afriad of getting caught and going to jail. again him getting blindedsided is not...i repeat not, that farfetched

The Purple Skull

11-27-2006, 09:06 PM

So does 42 have anything to do with Tony Stark's mother? Or was that just a throwaway joke? I read somewhere that it might have to do with the age Maria Stark died...

Haunt

11-27-2006, 09:48 PM

Plus, it's Jester. A well-written Jester really shouldn't have set off Peter's spider senses anyways.

because he's not a threat? :)

So does 42 have anything to do with Tony Stark's mother? Or was that just a throwaway joke? I read somewhere that it might have to do with the age Maria Stark died...

it's the number of women he slept with this month.

Sean Whitmore

11-27-2006, 09:58 PM

because he's not a threat? :)

You joke, but there's actually precedent for that. Aunt May was able to knock Spider-Man clean out by sneaking up behind him and cracking a vase on his skull. The reason his spider sense didn't go off? "I don't consider Aunt May a threat." :D

SEAN

Sharcque

11-27-2006, 09:59 PM

So does 42 have anything to do with Tony Stark's mother? Or was that just a throwaway joke? I read somewhere that it might have to do with the age Maria Stark died...

I thought they called it "42" because it was "the answer" to their problems --- like in the Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, where the Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything, is '42'.

Crimson

11-28-2006, 08:10 AM

So, Punsiher mentioned he'd been helping in a ski mask? Was he guy watching Goliath's burial?

Was he seen anywhere else in Civil War?

jackolover

11-28-2006, 01:14 PM

So, Punsiher mentioned he'd been helping in a ski mask? Was he guy watching Goliath's burial?

Was he seen anywhere else in Civil War?

Not that I saw. I was hoping we would get stories filling in these details in the CW Punisher 1 - 3, but that doesn't look like happening.

Taltos

11-29-2006, 09:39 AM

Is there any reason for dare devil to still have his mask when hes enetring the negative zone, especially after a cavity search?

Magneto Rocks

11-29-2006, 10:32 AM

Not really, but Millar has confirmed he was Unmasked after that so they know it's Danny Rand.

XPac

11-29-2006, 10:37 AM

Is there any reason for dare devil to still have his mask when hes enetring the negative zone, especially after a cavity search?

Hmmm... maybe only CERTAIN people are allowed to know the secret identity of the heroes. High ranking SHIELD agents might know it's Danny, but they might feel low ranking SHIELD prison guards might not. That sort of thing might be considered top secret.

Loestal

11-29-2006, 06:34 PM

Hmmm... maybe only CERTAIN people are allowed to know the secret identity of the heroes. High ranking SHIELD agents might know it's Danny, but they might feel low ranking SHIELD prison guards might not. That sort of thing might be considered top secret.

That's actually how it goes. Not everyone has to do what Spider-man did, hell...not even Spider-man had to do what Spider-man did.

jackolover

12-16-2006, 05:27 PM

Okay, big unfinished business.

We saw in CW 5 that Cap was still all beat up, and he mentions that Cloak and Dagger were captured in that scurmish. This must have happened after CW 4, because both Cloak and Dagger escaped from there.

In what book did the scurmish happen that Cap got so beat up, again, and Cloak and Dagger got busted?

sookibong

12-17-2006, 07:28 AM

HankMcCoy

12-22-2006, 11:02 AM

So, Punsiher mentioned he'd been helping in a ski mask? Was he guy watching Goliath's burial?

Was he seen anywhere else in Civil War?

Yes, but I believe he was actually spying on cap and and the anti-regs in the last panel before it cut to Goliath's funeral. I don't remember seeing any anti-regs at the funeral...