People sighted *camping* in front of Best Buy for PS3

[Buried Alien]

I was at Best Buy today to pick up the fourth volume of the LOONEY TOONS GOLDEN COLLECTION, and to my surprise, there were people in tents camped out in front of the store. It looked like Colorado Boulevard in Pasadena on New Year's Eve.

I found out from a clerk that these people were waiting for the PS3 to be released this Friday.

Some people do take their video games *very* seriously, don't they?

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Jared_Humpherys]

If I didn't avoid camping like the AIDS, I could very well be doing something just like this.

That said, I AM enough of a dork to be willing to stand in front of a Wal-Mart for 2 hours on Sat night to get the Wii.

[MaxofSteel]

Good God! I can understand a day in advance (at most) but three!? Wow. That's dedication right there.

[Kolgrim]

It's amazing how narrow the line between dedication and fanatic obsession actually is.

I love my video games as much as the next guy, but come on.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I´m usually not much impressed by the initial line up of titles on a new console.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is only due somewhere in the next century, so what interesting titles does PS3 bring to the table?

[MaxofSteel]

Metal Gear Solid 4 is only due somewhere in the next century, so what interesting titles does PS3 bring to the table?

Not many IMO. That's why I'm waitin' til the next century. The Wii will tide me over until then.:)

[kel25]

Normally I just wait a day or two after the rush of a big release before I pick something up. The only time I didn’t was for the release of Halo 2. The store was having a midnight release of the game and since I got of work at midnight I figured I’d just pop in and pick up my copy. If I had known it would mean standing in line for two hours I wouldn’t have bothered until the next day. If I would have known what a big disappointment the game was I wouldn’t have bothered to buy it.

I really do pity people that camp out for a game or a movie. My best friend took a week of vacation once FF XII was released. Sure I play games far more than I should but I’ve never gone that far.

[Urusai Wrangler]

Wow...Pavlov was right.

[Fish Sauce]

Heh, this reminds me of the last Harry Potter book. People pre-ordered it then waited overnight for it to come out. I walked in in the morning while the pre-order people were still lining up, picked up the book and had it purchased within five minutes.

[The Fury]

The Wii will tide me over until then.:)
What machine you got at the moment?

Save some money either way and do not buy a new console, buy a new game instead.

[Paradox]

I'm not a lot into consoles, but I don't see the idea of getting a new one when they come out, anyway. Aren't they traditionally put out too soon and full of bugs? Why not wait until they actually "finish" them instead of buying a "broken" one and fixing it? The monstrous drop in price after a year makes me skeptical, too

And the camping...there isn't anything I want that badly to do that for. Nothing I could actually get by doing that, anyway.

[mybotisgone]

Man I would love to get a PS3 but at the price of $599 all I can say is that I'm going to have to get a wii.

[MaxofSteel]

What machine you got at the moment?

Save some money either way and do not buy a new console, buy a new game instead.

I'm perfectly happy with my PS2. There's a bunch of great games I've been waitin' to get my hands on for a while. But as far as next-gen goes, th first console I plan on gettin' is the Wii.

[Taltos]

I guess their fake shortage worked. People are lining up and creating hype that wouldnt be there if the system wasnt so "scarce." Though the spotlight isnt very forgiving. Today on the radio they were discussing the PS3 and all that came up was the ridiculous price, the fact that it isnt something kids will be asking/getting for christmas, and that the majority of the consumers will be in their thirties.

haha honestly who can afford a $600 system? Most people have to save up to buy a 360 and at least tighten their budgets to get a Wii. They basically just cut out children, college kids, and anyone whos rent is under $700.

[Lester C.]

I guess their fake shortage worked. People are lining up and creating hype that wouldnt be there if the system wasnt so "scarce." Though the spotlight isnt very forgiving. Today on the radio they were discussing the PS3 and all that came up was the ridiculous price, the fact that it isnt something kids will be asking/getting for christmas, and that the majority of the consumers will be in their thirties.

haha honestly who can afford a $600 system? Most people have to save up to buy a 360 and at least tighten their budgets to get a Wii. They basically just cut out children, college kids, and anyone whos rent is under $700.
People were saying about same thing about Xbox 360 and Microsoft never did meet the demand for it last year and they completely missed the Christmas season. Expect the same thing to happen with Sony.

I hope the campers all get their hands on systems. Can you imagine camping out for four days and still not getting a game system?

[Sparda]

Lol I'd rather go to Honk Kong and get the PS3 for much cheaper if the region thing is true about the system. But anyway I'm a patient guy and wait for this system to really drop the price to at least 300 bucks.

I don't know if I would get the Wii but instead wait for another price drop for the Gamecube and get that with the RE 0 and remake that I find worth to have. Other than that, I'm quite happy with my PS2.

[Novaya Havoc]

I stood outside of a Toys R Us with my b/f so he could get a Wii reservation. Not quite the same, but I never thought I'd see the day.

I begged him to do a Cartman impression for me, but he wouldn't. So I chainsmoked and grumbled instead.

[Sean Walsh]

For some reason, when I saw part of this header I thought the title of this was "People sighted *camping* in World of Warcraft."

Maybe that's something that can normally happen, or maybe not......still kinda cool, regardless.

[Agent Helix]

You.. uh... actually.. can.. build a little campfire in WoW.

[Shellhead]

I'm not shocked about this news. On a normal Saturday morning, I usually see at least a couple of customers waiting outside the local Best Buy just before opening. People are seriously addicted to their entertainment.

[Tadhg]

I guess their fake shortage worked. People are lining up and creating hype that wouldnt be there if the system wasnt so "scarce." Though the spotlight isnt very forgiving. Today on the radio they were discussing the PS3 and all that came up was the ridiculous price, the fact that it isnt something kids will be asking/getting for christmas, and that the majority of the consumers will be in their thirties.

haha honestly who can afford a $600 system? Most people have to save up to buy a 360 and at least tighten their budgets to get a Wii. They basically just cut out children, college kids, and anyone whos rent is under $700.

Except it's not a fake shortage, since it looks like Sony isn't even going to be able to meet it's initial ultra low predictions. It went from 2 million at release, to 400k, to now 150-200k units likely. They won't even release enough to cover preorders.

[Agent Helix]

Except it's not a fake shortage, since it looks like Sony isn't even going to be able to meet it's initial ultra low predictions. It went from 2 million at release, to 400k, to now 150-200k units likely. They won't even release enough to cover preorders.

Where did you see that they've gone down again? Last I heard it was still in the 400K range.

[The Fury]

Where did you see that they've gone down again? Last I heard it was still in the 400K range.
I have only heard that as well. Even that news report from the BBC only 2 or 3 days ago said 400 thou.

[hoffmandu]

Heh, this reminds me of the last Harry Potter book. People pre-ordered it then waited overnight for it to come out. I walked in in the morning while the pre-order people were still lining up, picked up the book and had it purchased within five minutes.

Funny. I worked at Waldenbooks during the Harry Potter Goblet craze. About a month into it, some jerk called wanting to be put on the list for the next one..........which wasn't even written yet........I laughed at him and hung up.

[Fatguy]

Yea, I went to Best Buy last night in Salem, OR and people were camped out outside. I find it shocking that the same people who can afford a $600 system are the same people who can throw away 3 days to sleep outside a store ;)

[meethraa]

I'm not a lot into consoles, but I don't see the idea of getting a new one when they come out, anyway. Aren't they traditionally put out too soon and full of bugs? Why not wait until they actually "finish" them instead of buying a "broken" one and fixing it? The monstrous drop in price after a year makes me skeptical, too

My thoughts exactly.

[Tadhg]

I have only heard that as well. Even that news report from the BBC only 2 or 3 days ago said 400 thou.

It all started when Gamestop announced they'd be unable to cover pre-orders as Sony is shipping them less than originally promised.

Analysts from Lazard Capital Markets belive that we'll see 150-200k at launch and 750k by year end.

[Buried Alien]

I'm not a lot into consoles, but I don't see the idea of getting a new one when they come out, anyway. Aren't they traditionally put out too soon and full of bugs? Why not wait until they actually "finish" them instead of buying a "broken" one and fixing it? The monstrous drop in price after a year makes me skeptical, too.

I didn't even think about buying a PS2 until October, 2002...two years after the system was released in North America. My previous game system before that had been the archaic Atari 2600...so yes, there was a *looooong* interlude between my two eras of interest in video games.





Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Agent Helix]

It all started when Gamestop announced they'd be unable to cover pre-orders as Sony is shipping them less than originally promised.

Analysts from Lazard Capital Markets belive that we'll see 150-200k at launch and 750k by year end.

Yeah, I went back and did a little hunting of my own, and you're right. I just asked for corroboration because that's a BIG dip in projected number this late in the game.

[scratchie]

I was at Best Buy today to pick up the fourth volume of the LOONEY TOONS GOLDEN COLLECTIONI thought the new collection looked very disappointing. Way too many post-40s cartoons. You'll have to post a review once you've checked it out.

[Gargus]

Where did you see that they've gone down again? Last I heard it was still in the 400K range.

I saw it here.
http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/480.html

Was about 12 tents pitched and people standing around outside bestbuy by me tongiht. I stopped in to get the 20th anniversary of transformers movie and maniac cop on dvd and saw a news truck out there talking to them.

[Jabuka]

Wow this is well surprising waiting, I mean seriousely on my new system release I came to the store at 8:00 AM a day before the system is released and sneek in front of line while theyre sleeping (no im not joking last year I almost feel unconsious and litteraly had to run to a vending machine to buy 6 pepsi's to stay awake...too bad i couldnt play the system afterwards because of the headcahe).

[Fireball]

Some people will do anything to be one of the first to own the newest toy on the block, and if that makes them happy, then all the power to them. I'll wait a year or two before I buy one, spend my time stocking up on those PS2 and Gamecube games I still want to play.

I haven't seen anyone around where I live camping out in front of game stores, must have something to do with the snow...

[K'Nort]

Saw a news item today that pre-bids on eBay are already up to $2300. That's far more nuts than camping.

[Nate Grey]

I saw this today at the Best Buy I frequent, too. Tents and lawn chairs and everything.

[Kirayoshi]

I thought the new collection looked very disappointing. Way too many post-40s cartoons. You'll have to post a review once you've checked it out.I dunno. It has "Operation Rabbit"(the very first Wile E. Coyote) as well as "Rabbit Hood", two of my favorite Chuck Jones cartoons, plus a little Speedy Gonzalez, and a few vintage Porky Pigs for good measure.

We now return the highjacked thread to its original theme.

[Lester C.]

I don't see any games on Sony debut list that justifies the extremes people are goint to to get their hands on a PS3.

[Alex]

i understand it. Not enough games announced for me to commit 500+ to it, but if the 400,000 number is true, the people who get one will have to work for it.

[Agent Helix]

i understand it. Not enough games announced for me to commit 500+ to it, but if the 400,000 number is true, the people who get one will have to work for it.

And apparently it's not!

You know, I can't count Sony out, given their previous success, but it feels like every step of the way, they've made every wrong decision possible. They seem to have taken their position as an industry dominator for granted, and are working under the impression that people will buy the PS3 simply because it's the PS3. I'm sure a fair number of people will do just that.

But with the exorbitant price, the requirement of a new HDTV* to get the games to actually look like the ones advertised, and the extremely low amount of consoles even being released during the launch, it looks like they're going to lose out on that ever important casual base. You know, the moms and dads looking for Christmas presents for the kids, or the college freshman looking for a dorm room toy.

*Apparently, a lot of older HDTVs don't support the resolution that the PS3 runs, 780p, and instead of upping the resolution to the standard 1080i like the Xbox 360 does, it instead downgrades it to 480p, which is the operating resolution for systems like the Gamecube and Wii. For the Nintendo systems, it's not really noticeable, since those games are built native to that resolution, but for a game native to 780p, it kind of makes it look like crap.

[Taltos]

You know what would be funny? If best buy jacked the prices up to say $750. Chances are they wont have enough systems to service most of the people waiting outside and the chosen few at the front of the line will most likely pay more, if not someone behind them will.

[Agent Helix]

Jeez, Taltos, haven't these poor people suffered enough?

[Novaya Havoc]

You know what would be funny? If best buy jacked the prices up to say $750. Chances are they wont have enough systems to service most of the people waiting outside and the chosen few at the front of the line will most likely pay more, if not someone behind them will.

You know what would be funny? When the Attorney Generals of each respective state smackdown Best Buy for price gouging.

Not gonna happen. :p

[titanfan]

Some people do take their video games *very* seriously, don't they

Considering that you can still sell them on ebay for double the price, I'd guess a lot of the people campling are profit seekers as well.

[CDB]

I guess their fake shortage worked. People are lining up and creating hype that wouldnt be there if the system wasnt so "scarce." Though the spotlight isnt very forgiving. Today on the radio they were discussing the PS3 and all that came up was the ridiculous price, the fact that it isnt something kids will be asking/getting for christmas, and that the majority of the consumers will be in their thirties.

haha honestly who can afford a $600 system? Most people have to save up to buy a 360 and at least tighten their budgets to get a Wii. They basically just cut out children, college kids, and anyone whos rent is under $700.

Quoted for truth. I'm satisifed with my PS2 for now, and we happliy keep my $600 in pocket.;)

[billdo75]

You know what would be funny? If best buy jacked the prices up to say $750. Chances are they wont have enough systems to service most of the people waiting outside and the chosen few at the front of the line will most likely pay more, if not someone behind them will.

They won't jack the price of the system, but they'll more than likely require people to buy into bundles. Those bundles will no doubt have 3+ games, an extra controller, their extended service plan...yada yada yada. That's the same shit they pulled at the 360 launch last year. I felt bad for some of the people in line last year. There were kids that scraped and saved just enough to buy the system and they left empty-handed. I went in looking to snag a $400 system and came away with a $700+ receipt...and that was one of the cheaper bundles for the premium system.

[The Fury]

But with the exorbitant price, the requirement of a new HDTV* to get the games to actually look like the ones advertised, and the extremely low amount of consoles even being released during the launch, it looks like they're going to lose out on that ever important casual base. You know, the moms and dads looking for Christmas presents for the kids, or the college freshman looking for a dorm room toy.

In order to get the best out of a HD tv channel you need HDTV too, ditto with standard Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Surely?
.

[Agent Helix]

In order to get the best out of a HD tv channel you need HDTV too, ditto with standard Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Surely?
.


You misunderstand me. I'm talking a NEW HDTV. Even a lot of people that already have them are going to be a little screwed over, because 780p hasn't become standard yet. Essentially, in order to get the most out of the system, meaning the picture quality that Sony is advertising, a lot of HDTV owners would have to buy a NEW HDTV that supports that resolution.

Is this really a huge issue? No. And saying the games will look like crap was, of course, hyperbole on my part. This is just yet another little thing that Sony neglected to mention before the launch.

[Sanagi]

PS3 Campers are being attacked (http://blog.wired.com/games/2006/11/ps3_campers_and.html) and robbed. (http://blog.wired.com/games/2006/11/ps3_campers_rob.html) Sitting on a street corner overnight waiting to buy expensive electronics is perhaps not the wisest thing to do...

[Nate Grey]

The campers near the Best Buy I mentioned had to leave cause of the rain. Rained for like...five hours straight or something.

[Valmore]

You know, it's probably the closest thing to doing something outdoors those geeks have done in a loooooong time.

[Michael P]

I find it amusing that people are forgoing work to buy a $600 video game system.

[Tadhg]

You misunderstand me. I'm talking a NEW HDTV. Even a lot of people that already have them are going to be a little screwed over, because 780p hasn't become standard yet. Essentially, in order to get the most out of the system, meaning the picture quality that Sony is advertising, a lot of HDTV owners would have to buy a NEW HDTV that supports that resolution.

Is this really a huge issue? No. And saying the games will look like crap was, of course, hyperbole on my part. This is just yet another little thing that Sony neglected to mention before the launch.

The resolution is 720p. The issue is TVs that are capable of 1080i but not 720p because the PS3 doesn't have an upscaler to convert 720p to 1080i. Games that are capable of native 1080i resolution would show fine on those TVs.

[Agent Helix]

You're right, it's 720p, not 780.

The problem is, however, that there aren't games that are 1080i native, at least not yet. From what some testers have been saying, the downgrade on older HD sets isn't just noticeable, it's visibly detrimental in some cases.

[scratchie]

Police in Boston shut down the midnight sale and sent PS3 campers home:

http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2006/11/boston_nixes_mi.html

--Art

[BlairH]

Police in Boston shut down the midnight sale and sent PS3 campers home:

http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2006/11/boston_nixes_mi.html

--Art

"What's that? A national chain conducting business? We'll have to put a stop to that I'm afraid!"

[founder81]

I find it amusing that people are forgoing work to buy a $600 video game system.

If your buying it to sell. $650 to buy at the store (after tax). At least $2,000 on eBay. Even if you take 3 unpaid days to wait in line, how many of us make $1350 in 3 days?

[Paradox]

I wonder if there's anyone who camps out so they can be on the local news or in the paper? :cool:

[mybotisgone]

If your buying it to sell. $650 to buy at the store (after tax). At least $2,000 on eBay. Even if you take 3 unpaid days to wait in line, how many of us make $1350 in 3 days?
No one in there right mind. Like I said I like the PS3 but not the price. Sony is going to have to find a way to lower that thing down.

[founder81]

No one in there right mind. Like I said I like the PS3 but not the price. Sony is going to have to find a way to lower that thing down.


Aggreed, for $600 you can buy a laptop, another $100-150 and you can buy a Video card.

a Laptop can do a hell of alot more then a console and is portable.

[Tadhg]

Aggreed, for $600 you can buy a laptop, another $100-150 and you can buy a Video card.

a Laptop can do a hell of alot more then a console and is portable.

But a 600.00 laptop can't play the games that a PS3 can.

[Agent Helix]

Yeah. For that you'd need a $400 XBox 360.

[The Fury]

Aggreed, for $600 you can buy a laptop, another $100-150 and you can buy a Video card.

a Laptop can do a hell of alot more then a console and is portable.
For $600? What kind of Laptop are we talking? a 1.6 ghz intel celeron with 256 ram? if you get a laptop, no easy upgrade incase bigger faster more powerful games come out. Constant upgrade if you get a desktop each time costing money. And that doesn't come with a Blu-ray player/DVD player/PS1/PS2/PS3.

PS3 (Wii or 360) is one off payment for at least the next 5-6 years easy.

[Jmacq1]

Yeah. For that you'd need a $400 XBox 360.

Unless you want to play Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, or Devil May Cry.

[Agent Helix]

Good thing for me I hate those games!

[scratchie]

"What's that? A national chain conducting business? We'll have to put a stop to that I'm afraid!"Silly cops. Don't they know that commerce is more important than public safety?

[scratchie]

Here's a video of a man running into a flagpole while trying to buy one of these things:

http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/video/10339676/index.html

And I always heard that video games are supposed to improve your coordination!

[The Fury]

Yeah. For that you'd need a $400 XBox 360.
360 can play PS3 games?

Does sony know this?

[Agent Helix]

It was a joke about how most of Sony's launch titles are already available on other systems.

[The Fury]

It was a joke about how most of Sony's launch titles are already available on other systems.
I got that, mine was a joke too.

Happy Birthday btw.

[Josh S]

Here's a video of a man running into a flagpole while trying to buy one of these things:

http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/video/10339676/index.html

And I always heard that video games are supposed to improve your coordination!

Three observations:

1. How could Wal-Mart not see this (or something worse) happening.

2. That guy's going to attempt to get a PS3 by suing Wal-Mart.

3. I'm disappointed we don't hear a "NOOOOOO!!!" before the smack.

[Taltos]

You know what would be funny? When the Attorney Generals of each respective state smackdown Best Buy for price gouging.

Not gonna happen. :p
Didnt JC Penny or some other department store sell 360's at a much higher price? It is after all only a "suggested retail price."

[CDB]

The first PS3's are going on sale on E-bay!! And well the price gouging has begun. But has some funny clips:


Vegeta wants to buy a PS3 on E-bay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfoI86ofQn8

http://wheelofps3.ytmnd.com/

[Agent Helix]

I got that, mine was a joke too.

Happy Birthday btw.

Hey, thanks.

I'm old now, so I get to be a curmudgeon.

[The Fury]

The first PS3's are going on sale on E-bay!! And well the price gouging has begun. But has some funny clips:

Now, if you lot who are saying that $600 is too much. Think of the mugs who are buying it for $2000 each. :p

Wait a month and more will be here.

[Agent Helix]

The people paying $2000 for a game console are either stupid or the idle rich. That doesn't change the fact that, as far as I'm concerned, $600 is an exorbitant price to pay for a videogame system, and it's because Sony is trying to shove a new DVD format down our throats. Regardless of how quickly more are released in the states, that price is still too much to pay for a console with no exclusive games I care about any longer.

[hoffmandu]

The people paying $2000 for a game console are either stupid or the idle rich. That doesn't change the fact that, as far as I'm concerned, $600 is an exorbitant price to pay for a videogame system, and it's because Sony is trying to shove a new DVD format down our throats. Regardless of how quickly more are released in the states, that price is still too much to pay for a console with no exclusive games I care about any longer.

The blue-ray thing is really frustrating for me. How much would this thing run without it?

[CDB]

The blue-ray thing is really frustrating for me. How much would this thing run without it?

That's a good question?:confused:

[MaxofSteel]

To me it seems that without the Bluray feature, the PS3 would be significantly cheaper than it is right now.

[Tadhg]

The blue-ray thing is really frustrating for me. How much would this thing run without it?


Likely, the retail price would stay close to the same. It'd just reduce Sony's losses by a 100.00 a console.

[Perry Holley]

I heard someone on the radio this morning who camped out for 39 hours here in Atlanta to get one. After his expenses, he said he expected to make about $100 an hour, given the time he spent in line.

Not too shabby, all told. If someone is actually willing to pay that much, more power to 'em.

[mybotisgone]

look at CNN they keep saying how vilent it got when it came out today.

[Serik]

If you're not selling your PS3 on eBay, what's the motivation of getting one right now?

Resistance: Fall of Man is the only PS3 game that has decent reviews...

[Lester C.]

How long do you guys think that the rest of us will be able to get a Playstation 3?

[Gargus]

The blue-ray thing is really frustrating for me. How much would this thing run without it?

Probablly alot, just like when dvd's first came out. The damn player was around 1000 bucks. Now you can get them for 75. Just have to give it a bit is all. Its new tech, not realistic to want things new and hightech but think it should be cheap also. The fancier things get the more it costs to make it.

Although I never did understand people when it comes to these things. They want better graphics and such but complain when the better graphics cost money. If its not that then, they complain that all the games are the same and nothing is new, and then they go buy 1.2 million copies of the new madden game and 3 billion copies of the 147th sims expansion. Or say game systems arent innovation and want something new, so they make fun of wii for being different and force sony to change their new controller back to the old non innovative one when they dont even know if it worked well since they never got to even touch it.

You cant drive a jaguar on a saturn's budget.

[P-Man]

I hope this is a sign of the PS3's future success. Honestly, I hope all three of the new consoles have a long and successful life. As a gamer it gives me more options, and that's always good.

[Lester C.]

I hope this is a sign of the PS3's future success. Honestly, I hope all three of the new consoles have a long and successful life. As a gamer it gives me more options, and that's always good.
Sony has billions invested in the PS3 and are not seeing any return on it due to lack of units. All the money being made by the hype is going into the pockets of Ebay and invidual sellers that waited in line for a couple of days.

[P-Man]

Sony has billions invested in the PS3 and are not seeing any return on it due to lack of units. All the money being made by the hype is going into the pockets of Ebay and invidual sellers that waited in line for a couple of days.

That's true at the moment, but I'm thinking all the news coverage and hype will help in the long run. I can't see it as being anything other than a good sign, even if it's not a sure thing. After all, the headline "People camping for Playstation" is a lot better than "Thousands of unsold units sitting on shelves"

[Valmore]

That's true at the moment, but I'm thinking all the news coverage and hype will help in the long run. I can't see it as being anything other than a good sign, even if it's not a sure thing. After all, the headline "People camping for Playstation" is a lot better than "Thousands of unsold units sitting on shelves"

Actually, it's really not. It just shows that gamers are sheep who are willing to part with insane amounts of money for an overinflated video game system the day of release instead of waiting a couple of years for the supply to go up and the prices to go down.

[Tadhg]

Actually, it's really not. It just shows that gamers are sheep who are willing to part with insane amounts of money for an overinflated video game system the day of release instead of waiting a couple of years for the supply to go up and the prices to go down.

Except he's talking about a good sign in regards to success for the PS3.

[The Fury]

How long do you guys think that the rest of us will be able to get a Playstation 3?
Well, soon. Sony have to keep with demand...that is if you can afford one and want one. I'm waiting a year after the release in the UK (in march :mad: ) to try and get one.

[Nate Grey]

Eh, I'll probably get one in 2010. Maybe 2009.

[Valmore]

Except he's talking about a good sign in regards to success for the PS3.

Are we talking success in terms of how many sold or success in quality of product overall?

[Chou Blaster]

And htis is why I am SOOOOO Getting a WII.

Cheaper, a cool Motiong detector Controler, and the newest Super Smash brothers, for the win!

[K'Nort]

Actually, it's really not. It just shows that gamers are sheep who are willing to part with insane amounts of money for an overinflated video game system the day of release instead of waiting a couple of years for the supply to go up and the prices to go down.

I think most of the buyers aren't "gamers" any more than the people buying slabbed holographic X-books were "comic fans." It's speculators.

[Urusai Wrangler]

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1949/pavlovdh9.jpg

[Buried Alien]

I was shopping at Target last night and got my first look at the PS3. On the one hand, its superiority to the PS2 is clear. On the other hand, it didn't exactly reinvent the gaming experience. It was more in the line of expected upgrades after half a decade's time rather than "blow your mind" incredible.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Xero Kaiser]

Although I never did understand people when it comes to these things. They want better graphics and such but complain when the better graphics cost money. If its not that then, they complain that all the games are the same and nothing is new, and then they go buy 1.2 million copies of the new madden game and 3 billion copies of the 147th sims expansion. Or say game systems arent innovation and want something new, so they make fun of wii for being different and force sony to change their new controller back to the old non innovative one when they dont even know if it worked well since they never got to even touch it.


What does all that have to do with a Blu-Ray DVD player?

[Lester C.]

Well, soon. Sony have to keep with demand...that is if you can afford one and want one. I'm waiting a year after the release in the UK (in march :mad: ) to try and get one.
Aren't you guys in the UK paying a grand for each system?

[Sanagi]

And the violence (http://www.pressthebuttons.com/2006/11/riots_shootings.html) continues... (http://www.pressthebuttons.com/2006/11/mob_of_600_peop.html) It may be mostly ebay scalpers causing this trouble, but it makes gamers look bad.

[The Fury]

Aren't you guys in the UK paying a grand for each system?
God no, where did you hear that?

Blu-Rays, sure. But in no way or mannor will it ever be a grand.

Wait...are you talking equivilent? AS in pounds to Dollars?

Yeah, I worked it about at about $800-$900. But that's at current exchange rate which is in our favour if buy from america.that's about £500. Which is laready alot, the 360 is £300 currently.

But this is a prediction as currently no retailer knows, I think people are hoping for the exchange rate to come into play, $600 works out as £320 at the moment. Which I assure you is reasonable. but anything up to £400 would be good.

[DonC]

I was at Best Buy today and there are now people camping out for the Nintendo Wii.

[MaxofSteel]

I was at Best Buy today and there are now people camping out for the Nintendo Wii.

Oh lord... When does the Wii come out again?

I'm just glad it wasn't released on the same day as the PS3. It'd be like WW3 or somethin'!

[Sparda]

These people just don't know how to be patient =/. There no better than cartman in that episode of south park.

Only positive I see is the lower price of the Gamecube thanks to the Wii. Heard it will occur in may but I really hope it lowers this year.

[Fish Sauce]

I was at Best Buy today and there are now people camping out for the Nintendo Wii.

It comes out today over there, right? As in the 19th?

[Lord Darkwolf]

Sometimes an event happens that is so completely and utterly filled with such jerkatude that it truly can only be classified as pure pure EVIL !


:eek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI :D :D :D

[Fish Sauce]

Sometimes an event happens that is so completely and utterly filled with such jerkatude that it truly can only be classified as pure pure EVIL !


:eek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI :D :D :D

Heh, I saw that yesterday. That smiling guy was pretty pissed.

[CDB]

Sometimes an event happens that is so completely and utterly filled with such jerkatude that it truly can only be classified as pure pure EVIL !


:eek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI :D :D :D



....No...he..didn't!!

Making a statement or not that $599 down the drain!!

[Fish Sauce]

....No...he..didn't!!

Making a statement or not that $599 down the drain!!

They raised money for it through donations on their website. A bunch of people gave $5 or so.

Also, they got a second one to sell on eBay. :p

[The Fury]

They raised money for it through donations on their website. A bunch of people gave $5 or so.

Also, they got a second one to sell on eBay. :p
The fact they raised money for it and stuff actually annoys me, they are losing nothing.

USA should have done what the Japanese stores did. A lottery, so you could have shown up 2 minutes before release and still got one.

[Fish Sauce]

The fact they raised money for it and stuff actually annoys me, they are losing nothing.

USA should have done what the Japanese stores did. A lottery, so you could have shown up 2 minutes before release and still got one.

Man, they're already having riots! I don't think making the choice random would help matters, especially for the nutcases.

[P-Man]

Are we talking success in terms of how many sold or success in quality of product overall?

I'm talking about units sold. I want all three of the new systems to sell well and have a long shelf life. Gamers, developers, and the market as a whole benefit when there are more options on the market. The way I see it, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all contribute different things to console gaming. Microsoft is pushing PC style games and online play, Nintendo is focusing on old school style games that are fun and well made without a sharp learning curve, and Sony is home of great big "event" type titles.

Of course, if it turns out the PS3 really is an overpriced piece of junk, it will fail, and deservedly so. I myself will wait and see how these systems fair over the long run before I purchase any of them. Really, fanboys can rant and rave all they want, but we don't know squat. The Wii might be a piece of crap. The PS3 might be the best thing ever. The current crop of games on the 360 might be as good as it ever gets, or developers might constantly be discovering new ways to get more from the hardware. We don't know.

I will tell you something though, saying gamers are sheep for being willing to shell out big bucks and wait in line for a PS3 is rude and ignorant. Maybe they just really, really liked the PS1 and PS2 and Sony's track record is a good enough reason for them to get the PS3. People rush out and buy new releases from their favorite artist the day they come out and nobody calls them sheep. People see sequels to their favorite movies the first day it hits the theaters and nobody calls them sheep. I mean, yeah, camping out for days to get a video game console isn't something I'd do, but if they want to do it then more power to 'em.

[mybotisgone]

The really sad part of the PS3 is that Sony real thinks that Blu-ray is going to replace the DVD.:rolleyes: Good luck with that good luck. As for the people in the real world. We all know that it ain't going to happen. DVD is in most homes in the world. Do Sony know how much money it will cost for it's customers to replace there DVD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd)s with Blu-ray (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray) disc.

[Urusai Wrangler]

People rush out and buy new releases from their favorite artist the day they come out and nobody calls them sheep. People see sequels to their favorite movies the first day it hits the theaters and nobody calls them sheep.

Well, actually...

[The Fury]

The really sad part of the PS3 is that Sony real thinks that Blu-ray is going to replace the DVD.:rolleyes: Good luck with that good luck. As for the people in the real world. We all know that it ain't going to happen. DVD is in most homes in the world. Do Sony know how much money it will cost for it's customers to replace there DVD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd)s with Blu-ray (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray) disc.
They said the exact same thing about DVD and VHS. That is when DVD players were still costing loads. You have to remember though, people only need to buy new movies on blu-ray as the PS3 (and no doubt all other blu-ray players) play DVDs as well.

[mybotisgone]

They said the exact same thing about DVD and VHS. That is when DVD players were still costing loads. You have to remember though, people only need to buy new movies on blu-ray as the PS3 (and no doubt all other blu-ray players) play DVDs as well.
Yea but no one is going to care about the blu-ray over the DVDs. The VHS and the DVD are not the same as DVDs and blu-ray. Video tapes had a really bad drawback. Like the VHS would keep braking down. Let's not forget how many VHS repair shops there where out there. But the DVD players really lasted a long time. And I don't see DVD repair shops all over the place. DVDs has a lot to it and you can do a lot to it. blu-ray is the same bam thing but with more memory. Same clear picture same, same extra features, and I don't care. And more memory is just nothing but more crapy extra features to learn on how the movie was made and fall asleep looking at it. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!! And besides that VHS is still around. It may not have movies to it but it still a fast and cheap way to record things on to. And beside Beta with was nothing more than a smaller version of VHS was said that it would over take the VHS. And Beta lost big time.

[The Fury]

Yea but no one is going to care about the blu-ray over the DVDs. The VHS and the DVD are not the same as DVDs and blu-ray. Video tapes had a really bad drawback. Like the VHS would keep braking down. Let's not forget how many VHS repair shops there where out there. But the DVD players really lated a long time. And I don't see DVD repair shops all over the place. DVDs has a lot to it and you can do a lot to it. blu-ray is the same bam thing but with more memory. Same clear picture same that and that and I don't care. And more memory is just nothing but more crap to learn on how the movie and fall asleep looking at it. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!! And besides that VHS is still around. It may not have movies to it but it still a fast and cheap way to record things on to.
Okay any game on HDDVD or Blu-ray might take up to 20 or more gig. That's 3DVDs. No gamer is going to want to keep swapping DVDs when they are in the middle of a fight or game.

How about you let them release it as blu-ray with good picture far beyond you and your crappy DVD want and let the people who do find it good by Blu-ray (or HD DVD depending). It's not like you are going to buy a Ps3 anyway is it?

[Urusai Wrangler]

[COLOR="Purple"]
Okay any game on HDDVD or Blu-ray might take up to 20 or more gig. That's 3DVDs. No gamer is going to want to keep swapping DVDs when they are in the middle of a fight or game.

As a game developer myself, I can tell you that the cost of developing a game this large would be astronomical, and there's no company on Earth that has the cash, manpower, resources, or art assets to fill a 50gb Blu-Ray disc with game data...not in this generation, anyhow.

[mybotisgone]

Okay any game on HDDVD or Blu-ray might take up to 20 or more gig. That's 3DVDs. No gamer is going to want to keep swapping DVDs when they are in the middle of a fight or game.

How about you let them release it as blu-ray with good picture far beyond you and your crappy DVD want and let the people who do find it good by Blu-ray (or HD DVD depending). It's not like you are going to buy a Ps3 anyway is it?
I'm not going to buy the same reason that Beta died. it just cost to much. Look Blu-ray may be nice for games but I just don't need it for movies. I'm just happy dvds and I don't care about how many disc I have to get.

[The Fury]

I'm not going to buy the same reason that Beta died. it just cost to much. Look Blu-ray may be nice for games but I just don't need it for movies. I'm just happy dvds and I don't care about how many disc I have to get.
That's fair enough, but HD things are coming from everywhere. HD TV channels are taking a hold in the UK and hardly anyone has a HDTV to support them.

One day maybe in about 4 or 5 years Blu-Ray might be as wide spread as DVD is now. Obviously at the moment it is not and the PS3 plays DVDs anyway.

Odd that you say about price though becuase DVDs were more expensive then VHS when they came out, most VHS £10, DVD £20.

EDIT: Infact, at www.play.com Blu-ray are the same price as DVD and HDDVDs.

[The Fury]

As a game developer myself, I can tell you that the cost of developing a game this large would be astronomical, and there's no company on Earth that has the cash, manpower, resources, or art assets to fill a 50gb Blu-Ray disc with game data...not in this generation, anyhow.
Fair enough. :)

Although, Star Ocean 3 was over 2 DVDs, that's at least...what? 10 gb?...maybe.

[Fish Sauce]

But DVD's had numerous advantages over VHS - better picture, chapter selection and bonus features.

I don't know much about Blu-Ray, but does it offer anything besides a better picture?

[MaxofSteel]

The fact that Blu-Ray is competing with DVD isn't what bugs me. It's that Blu-Ray is competing with HDDVD and DVD at the same time.

I might be wrong here, but aren't there compatibility issues to consider when the companies manufacture these new disc players? Would a Blu-Ray disc be able to play in an HDDVD player or vice versa?

I can't even begin to imagine the amount of confusion this would cause in consumers.

[darkkeeperjr]

What new games that you can play only on PS3?

[Jmacq1]

The fact that Blu-Ray is competing with DVD isn't what bugs me. It's that Blu-Ray is competing with HDDVD and DVD at the same time.

I might be wrong here, but aren't there compatibility issues to consider when the companies manufacture these new disc players? Would a Blu-Ray disc be able to play in an HDDVD player or vice versa?

I can't even begin to imagine the amount of confusion this would cause in consumers.

No, Blu-Ray discs can't play in HD-DVD players (which doesn't preclude the possibility of "hybrid" players coming out in the future, but I digress). That's the whole point. They're competing formats trying to figure out which will be the "next generation" DVD technology. It's like VHS vs. Betamax basically.

Both formats have their strengths and weaknesses, but as one of the above posters asked, I think aside from a better picture quality, and the "space" for superior audio tracks and more "extra features", there's not much different from the High-Def DVD formats than from regular DVD.

Heck, regular DVDs already look pretty darn good on High-Def televisions. There really is (to me) a point where your picture can almost be too clear. I don't need to know how much pancake makeup Katie Holmes had on during "Batman Begins" for example.... ;)

[mybotisgone]

No, Blu-Ray discs can't play in HD-DVD players (which doesn't preclude the possibility of "hybrid" players coming out in the future, but I digress). That's the whole point. They're competing formats trying to figure out which will be the "next generation" DVD technology. It's like VHS vs. Betamax basically.

Both formats have their strengths and weaknesses, but as one of the above posters asked, I think aside from a better picture quality, and the "space" for superior audio tracks and more "extra features", there's not much different from the High-Def DVD formats than from regular DVD.

Heck, regular DVDs already look pretty darn good on High-Def televisions. There really is (to me) a point where your picture can almost be too clear. I don't need to know how much pancake makeup Katie Holmes had on during "Batman Begins" for example.... ;)
And that's why Blu-Ray won't make it over DVD. It's like Blu-Ray is like Betamax cost to much and it's just the same as the other. And DVD is like VHS cheap and don't cost much and now in most homes.

[drwho]

They should get those people out of there for loitering. I think it is absurd and this is why stuff like gun fights break out.

[The Fury]

And that's why Blu-Ray won't make it over DVD. It's like Blu-Ray is like Betamax cost to much and it's just the same as the other. And DVD is like VHS cheap and don't cost much and now in most homes.
The only difference at the moment is that the Blu-Ray (and HD-DVD) cost about the same as what the DVDs did when they first came about.

Now DVD's have gone down and the new technology has replaced them. Of course, the players are still alot, that will change in time, first DVD players were that much.

[mybotisgone]

The only difference at the moment is that the Blu-Ray (and HD-DVD) cost about the same as what the DVDs did when they first came about.

Now DVD's have gone down and the new technology has replaced them. Of course, the players are still alot, that will change in time, first DVD players were that much.
Hate to be the giver of bad news but I've seen DVD players that cost as much as the VHS did.

[The Fury]

Hate to be the giver of bad news but I've seen DVD players that cost as much as the VHS did.
You've seen them cost as much as the VHS did.

That's right. Point being?

[founder81]

...Like the VHS would keep braking down. Let's not forget how many VHS repair shops there where out there. But the DVD players really lasted a long time. And I don't see DVD repair shops all over the place. ...

Back then it was cheaper to repair your vcr. Today its cheaper just to buy a new player. That's why there's no repair shops.

[mybotisgone]

Back then it was cheaper to repair your vcr. Today its cheaper just to buy a new player. That's why there's no repair shops.
True. And there where good at ripping you off. My mom had a VHS break on her and she took it to a VHS repair shop and the A** H**@* and I'm not kidding used a blow torch on it. I'm now kidding there where black marks all over the casing and the inside was melted.

[founder81]

True. And there where good at ripping you off. My mom had a VHS break on her and she took it to a VHS repair shop and the A** H**@* and I'm not kidding used a blow torch on it. I'm now kidding there where black marks all over the casing and the inside was melted.

about 8 years ago, I took a vcr to a repair man, he used gum and paper clips...

[Taltos]

Yeah, so i decided to camp out for the Wii.

I stated several times in this forum that i wouldnt be getting a Wii this year, much less at launch, or after a night of sidewalk sleeping. But when I got the call from four of my guys, I just couldnt say no.


some standout moments:
-smoking cigars all night in an attempt to send those in front us to the back

-Hearing stories from a ps3 reseller, about how it was complete anarchy for the sony launch. He was a senior, business major, and athlete; he took no one alive. One of the hot topics of the night was the guy who got his jaw dislocated about an hour away in a walmart organized "race for a ps3."

-while me and a friend were at the gas station, one of the group gave away our two blankets to linemates. It was a very cold night and there werent extra blankets.

-Several drive-byes by haters and someone holding an early wii realease out the window. Much discussion followed, about how if that wii came back it would be hurricane kicked out of their hands.

-2 for $3 mcmuffins after sleeping on sidewalk. best meal of my life.

-Seeing the line cutoff at 45, seeing those people go home w/o a Wii was almost a 5th as sweet as getting one.

-After we got the Wii's the group totally dispersed. No one said bye or shit, i know i heard someone say hold-up but i had ears for nothing but the Wii and the guy i drove there with.

-Achieving self-realization on the ride home.

[Magnificent Bastard]

The best one I read was about the guy that ran into one of those yellow poles at full speed when they opened the store for the ps3.

It's even funnier than the asshat that chose to take a bullet instead of giving up his money during a robbery.

[Xero Kaiser]

Why would people camp out for a Wii when that has plenty of units to go around?

I swear to God, people lose their damn minds when it comes to console launches

[Agent Helix]

Why would people camp out for a Wii when that has plenty of units to go around?

I swear to God, people lose their damn minds when it comes to console launches

There either weren't as many units we thought, or demand was higher than anticipated, because I know a lot of people that went home empty handed, even after standing in line before stores opened.

[Nate Grey]

There either weren't as many units we thought, or demand was higher than anticipated, because I know a lot of people that went home empty handed, even after standing in line before stores opened.

Yeah, I went to GameStop the sunday the Wii dropped. One of my friends who work there said they were indeed sold out...and getting more the next day. I wonder if that was actually the case everywhere. Nintendo isn't doing an artificial shortage like Sony, I don't think.

[Agent Helix]

Yeah. It seems like if you want one before the month is out, you should be able to get one. It also seems that way more people want one than I had expected.

[Xero Kaiser]

There either weren't as many units we thought, or demand was higher than anticipated, because I know a lot of people that went home empty handed, even after standing in line before stores opened.

Didn't Nintendo say they were going to launch with millions (I think 4 million) systems?

I just wonder why people who want a system bad enough to camp for it don't just preorder one and have the mailman bring it to you. Seems like less of a hassle to me.

[Silliw 2]

Some people like the excitement.

Like this dude - http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=15192&type=wmv

[Agent Helix]

Didn't Nintendo say they were going to launch with millions (I think 4 million) systems?

I just wonder why people who want a system bad enough to camp for it don't just preorder one and have the mailman bring it to you. Seems like less of a hassle to me.

I know that preorders on Amazon.com sold out day-of, and I'd wager other major online retailers had the same problem. So for a lot of people, I guess if they didn't preorder it the day it came up, they had no other option.

[Taltos]

The best one I read was about the guy that ran into one of those yellow poles at full speed when they opened the store for the ps3.
Yup that was the guy who got his jaw dislocated at the Walmart (Wisconsin!), and no he didnt run into it. He was pushed, during the race, so hard that his feet left the ground and like i said his jaw was dislocated.

[Urusai Wrangler]

Didn't Nintendo say they were going to launch with millions (I think 4 million) systems?

I just wonder why people who want a system bad enough to camp for it don't just preorder one and have the mailman bring it to you. Seems like less of a hassle to me.

It was around 600,000 US units, I believe. In any case, it was quite a bit more than Sony's launch numbers.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1262/pipefe4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Black Atom]

I get the impression a lot of stores are holding onto Wii units for this coming Friday's sales.