Batgirl meets Batgirl, and they talk about Batgirl. (Casstoons) [Archive]

ChthonicSpirit

11-13-2006, 03:34 PM

By Espanolbot

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ChthonicSpirit

11-13-2006, 03:34 PM

Reposted for the apparent dyslexia. Sorry.

EspanolBot

11-13-2006, 04:06 PM

I'd like to say that that's a comment on the character, not on Gail's writing.

Lester C.

11-13-2006, 04:19 PM

I don't know who misfit is because I have not read a comic book since May, but thank your for the Cassandra Cain comedic goodness.

EspanolBot

11-13-2006, 04:31 PM

She's basically a parody of fangirls and she tried to apply fan fiction logic to getting Barbara to let her be Batgirl (they fight and then they're friends.) Since she has superstrength he kicking Barbara out of her wheelchair isn't really fair even though Barb has been shown to be capable of defending herself in the past.

ChthonicSpirit

11-13-2006, 04:45 PM

And then Barbara pimp-slaps her in a desperate attempt to show support for Cassandra.

EspanolBot

11-13-2006, 04:51 PM

Cass looks as if Supergirl is going to kill her now sadly.

Supergirl #14
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This is also unfair.

ChthonicSpirit

11-13-2006, 04:57 PM

What, did Traci Zod get her implants increased just for this one fight scene?

Drink

11-13-2006, 07:33 PM

Ah, I see someone else posted this already.

Anyway, Gail, if you can do anything to get Cass to be not evil, anything, please try to fix her. I really getting sick of the whole Evil Cass shit going around like this Supergirl thing, which make my head want to explode.

Lester C.

11-13-2006, 07:45 PM

Cass looks as if Supergirl is going to kill her now sadly.

Supergirl #14
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This is also unfair.
At this point it'd be a mercy killing if either of those characters check out.

Jack Zodiac

11-13-2006, 07:48 PM

Cass looks as if Supergirl is going to kill her now sadly.

Supergirl #14
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This is also unfair.

Kryptonite Batarang = Deathstroke's doing.

Oh, and why is Cass evil now? :confused: Still not too clear on that.

Cam63

11-13-2006, 07:59 PM

Cass being evil would be a mistake.

Drink

11-13-2006, 08:04 PM

Oh, and why is Cass evil now? :confused: Still not too clear on that.
Long story short, she turned evil over in Robin. Most anyone who had read her series has openly questioned and hated the storyline, because it's essentially character assassination towards her. They destroyed some of the basic fundamentals of the character such as her lifelong dyslexia and how she felt about her father (No, not in that way, but still badly OOC).

The whole thing is slowly turning me off of comics, at least the ones that are DC proper.

Jack Zodiac

11-13-2006, 08:17 PM

Long story short, she turned evil over in Robin. Most anyone who had read her series has openly questioned and hated the storyline, because it's essentially character assassination towards her. They destroyed some of the basic fundamentals of the character such as her lifelong dyslexia and how she felt about her father (No, not in that way, but still badly OOC).

The whole thing is slowly turning me off of comics, at least the ones that are DC proper.

No, I know that she turned up "OYL" in Robin as the new leader of the League of Shadows, but what I don't know is why or how she just suddenly "turned." That was an even stupider move than replacing Wally West and turning Supergirl into Britney Spears with smaller tits and a shorter skirt.

Rynehawk

11-13-2006, 08:25 PM

Magneto_X

11-13-2006, 08:25 PM

Cass looks as if Supergirl is going to kill her now sadly.

Supergirl #14
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This is also unfair.

Didn't this get cancelled at the last minute?

(Why did it get cancelled, anyway?)

TCJohnson

11-13-2006, 08:29 PM

Didn't this get cancelled at the last minute?

(Why did it get cancelled, anyway?)

It was supposed to be #12, but instead they got filler for that issue and it got pushed back to 15.

TCJohnson

11-13-2006, 08:32 PM

Just.........

*sigh*

I mean how could Ca........It just doesn........

*sigh*

I give up. I was wondering why the stack of comics on my nightstand hasn't grown and I just don't look forward to reading them anymore.

I guess because I just don't care.

:(

That is how I felt after the death of Blue Beetle. Didio is really good and bringing that out of fans, isnt he?

Starba

11-13-2006, 08:43 PM

Yeah, but at least Blue Beetle got 1) a good send-off that 2) had an impact on practically the entire DCU. And he was recognized as a hero ever after.

Anymore, I wouldn't be surprised if Cass got killed off in a hand to hand duel with Robin and Lobo pissed on her grave.

TCJohnson

11-13-2006, 08:45 PM

Yeah, but at least Blue Beetle got 1) a good send-off that 2) had an impact on practically the entire DCU. And he was recognized as a hero ever after.

I don't see any evidence of this but whatever, that is another argument.

Rynehawk

11-13-2006, 08:46 PM

That is how I felt after the death of Blue Beetle. Didio is really good and bringing that out of fans, isnt he?

I suppose he's to blame. I don't know. I really don't.

All I know is I'm really depressed that my favorite hobby and the thing I looked forward to every week simply is no longer that. It's not by choice - I haven't declared I don't want to read comics and I'm not trying to pull some protest or anything.

I just......don't care. I get angry when the characters I used to follow and enjoy are so totally different or just discarded by the wayside....BECAUSE.

That's it. No real reason. Just BECAUSE.

It's like I've been watching a movie, really enjoying the characters and the story. Then, about midway through, everything starts to change. I don't immediately like it, but I hang with it to see the how and why and what's going on. The thing is....it's not explaining anything. It's like someone changed the channel right in the middle and didn't bother to tell me.

Now I don't know what I'm watching. I can't get into the new stuff because I'm constantly wondering what happened to the old stuff. I'm frustrated and irritated and keep sticking with it in the hopes it'll be resolved but it just never is. It's not like it's only been a couple of months - its been 9 months...going on a year.

The worst part is Didio and others in interviews, cons, etc keep telling me to "keep reading" and "wait and see" and "it'll be explained". Well, it's not. Now, not only am I irritated trying to figure everything out, I feel like I'm being hookwinked.

I......I just give up.

Justin Carr

11-13-2006, 09:01 PM

It's like I've been watching a movie, really enjoying the characters and the story. Then, about midway through, everything starts to change. I don't immediately like it, but I hang with it to see the how and why and what's going on. The thing is....it's not explaining anything. It's like someone changed the channel right in the middle and didn't bother to tell me.

Ah. You've watched Mulholland Drive, I see. *G*

Drink

11-13-2006, 09:20 PM

I know what you mean, actually.

Not much is really clicking for me as it used to.

Starba

11-13-2006, 09:32 PM

When today's comics stopped clicking for me, I decided to track down a whole bunch of back issues on eBay instead. I feel like I'm stocking up and settling in for a long winter. lol

I enjoy a few books lately, though. Superman/Batman annual was sheets of gold as far as I'm concerned. The uninhibitted outlandishness of it really warmed the cockles of this cynical old Batgirl fan's heart. I'm also really looking forward to the revamped Birds of Prey and Manhunter. The books most far removed from editorial heavyhandedness or hatred are the best kind. Too bad they rarely seem to last...

Jack Zodiac

11-13-2006, 09:33 PM

Yeah, but at least Blue Beetle got 1) a good send-off that

When I die, I want someone I know and trust to pop a cap in my skull.

Starba

11-13-2006, 09:37 PM

I meant that it got handled by a competent writer in an important story arc and that it got the attention it deserved. I mean, c'mon, he could have been in Pantha's position.

Jack Zodiac

11-13-2006, 09:40 PM

I meant that it got handled by a competent writer in an important story arc and that it got the attention it deserved. I mean, c'mon, he could have been in Pantha's position.

Y'know, at least then he would've been killed by a real menace. Being offed by Maxwell Lord? That's almost as bad as being a Green Lantern and getting slammed by a yellow truck.

Cam63

11-13-2006, 09:41 PM

When I die, I want someone I know and trust to pop a cap in my skull.

That's kinda redundant.

Cam63

11-13-2006, 09:43 PM

Starba

11-13-2006, 09:52 PM

I don't see what the big deal is. I'm a Batgirl fan, after all. My hero was the one who got character assassinated and ended up pulling the trigger on HER FATHER. At this point if I could put Cass in Ted's place I'd do it in a heartbeat if it meant I didn't have to deal with Robin OYL.

Blight

11-13-2006, 11:16 PM

Cass looks as if Supergirl is going to kill her now sadly.

Supergirl #14
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This is also unfair.

It a mercy killing unless Geoff fixes up and makes her a better more well written villain and explains why she's back in the suit which dismisses the final issue of her series.

d newton

11-14-2006, 12:24 AM

I don't see any evidence of this.
Reread Birds of Prey 97! :D

Gail Simone

11-14-2006, 03:59 AM

This cartoon doesn't do it for me...I've enjoyed most of these, but this one seems kinda meh.

Gail

Drink

11-14-2006, 05:11 AM

Maybe Gail doesn't like us making fun of her new character :D

Here's another one, involving Titans East, where we attempt to explain what happened to Duela Dent;

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OzBat!

11-14-2006, 05:31 AM

Y'know, at least then he would've been killed by a real menace. Being offed by Maxwell Lord? That's almost as bad as being a Green Lantern and getting slammed by a yellow truck....or being trampled by a horde of yellow munchkins.Nonono... Green Lantern Ch'p (the cartoon squirrel GL) was actually killed by a yellow truck in the pages of GL Mosaic. No foolin'!

Sharpandpointies

11-14-2006, 05:40 AM

Cass looks as if Supergirl is going to kill her now sadly.

Supergirl #14
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This is also unfair.

But not surprising. :(

Sharpandpointies

11-14-2006, 05:44 AM

The worst part is Didio and others in interviews, cons, etc keep telling me to "keep reading" and "wait and see" and "it'll be explained". Well, it's not. Now, not only am I irritated trying to figure everything out, I feel like I'm being hookwinked.

I......I just give up.

I agree. Because if you have to wait a year and 12 issues for something to be explained, while the character is essentially getting ruined in your mind and heart....

Well, it's too late.

Nobody said one has to have an attention span of a rabid hummingbird. But how long has it been now since Cass 'turned evil'? How much 'cool explanation' have we been given? After a year, one tends to lose interest in watching one's favourite character get dug up and mixed with fertilizer.

Sharpandpointies

11-14-2006, 05:50 AM

Maybe Gail doesn't like us making fun of her new character :D

Not impossible. The last time she said 'meh' to a Casstoon it was BoP related... :)

Gail Simone

11-14-2006, 06:01 AM

Not impossible. The last time she said 'meh' to a Casstoon it was BoP related... :)

No, it's 'cause the punchline is weak.

Gail

Drink

11-14-2006, 06:16 AM

I can see that. I didn't actually write that one, so it's likely not what I would have done with that scenario. I'm not sure what I would have done, actually.

Justin Carr

11-14-2006, 06:27 AM

Yeah. The Punchline is one of the hardest things for the strip. Heck, I once made a joke about the fact that I couldn't think of a punchline. If I can't end on a strong punchline, I usually try to have a strong statement in the middle to support the real punchline or end on a shock-note.

But we can't always have a strong strips. Heck, Garfield is now almost completely 'meh' with a few signs of its former greatness. I'm sure even Gail has had some 'meh' issues. *pause* Can't think of any right off-hand. That's it! I'll make it my mission in life to find a 'meh' Gail story. This may take a while. *puts on Indiana Jones hat and strides off into the sunset*

Drink

11-14-2006, 06:35 AM

Sometimes I think of the punchline first, and then work the rest of the strip around it. I'm not sure if that's the conventional way of doing such things or not, but anyway...

Say, have I ever showed this one from a few months back?

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EspanolBot

11-14-2006, 09:07 AM

This cartoon doesn't do it for me...I've enjoyed most of these, but this one seems kinda meh.

Gail
Eh, I kind of agree. And I was the guy who wrote it.

I kind of ran out of energy.

Gail Simone

11-14-2006, 10:07 AM

Eh, I kind of agree. And I was the guy who wrote it.

I kind of ran out of energy.

I'm not pickin' on ya, I generally like these a lot.

Gail

Damo

11-14-2006, 10:13 AM

I think Gail picking on someone is one of the signs of the Apocalypse.

(and no, shooting someone is not the same as picking on them)

Hybrid2

11-14-2006, 10:53 AM

I suppose he's to blame. I don't know. I really don't.

All I know is I'm really depressed that my favorite hobby and the thing I looked forward to every week simply is no longer that. It's not by choice - I haven't declared I don't want to read comics and I'm not trying to pull some protest or anything.

I just......don't care. I get angry when the characters I used to follow and enjoy are so totally different or just discarded by the wayside....BECAUSE.

That's it. No real reason. Just BECAUSE.

It's like I've been watching a movie, really enjoying the characters and the story. Then, about midway through, everything starts to change. I don't immediately like it, but I hang with it to see the how and why and what's going on. The thing is....it's not explaining anything. It's like someone changed the channel right in the middle and didn't bother to tell me.

Now I don't know what I'm watching. I can't get into the new stuff because I'm constantly wondering what happened to the old stuff. I'm frustrated and irritated and keep sticking with it in the hopes it'll be resolved but it just never is. It's not like it's only been a couple of months - its been 9 months...going on a year.

The worst part is Didio and others in interviews, cons, etc keep telling me to "keep reading" and "wait and see" and "it'll be explained". Well, it's not. Now, not only am I irritated trying to figure everything out, I feel like I'm being hookwinked.

I......I just give up.

I know how you fell.
Marvel is doing the same.
Wait and see,wait and see,no explaination.

EspanolBot

11-14-2006, 11:40 AM

I'm not pickin' on ya, I generally like these a lot.

Gail
Ah it's Ok. To be honest I was in the middle of doing some coursework when I made that one.

EspanolBot

11-14-2006, 11:43 AM

By Drink based on the new Supergirl Cover.
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Sharpandpointies

11-14-2006, 12:02 PM

diana_fan

11-14-2006, 12:06 PM

I like it. :)

Yeah, the 'Kryptonite Batarang' is just a wee bit silly.

Not to mention it's CHEATING!

EspanolBot

11-14-2006, 12:18 PM

Not to mention it's CHEATING!
But Kara is cheating to begin with what with her superpowers and her stragglin' and such.

diana_fan

11-14-2006, 12:51 PM

But Kara is cheating to begin with what with her superpowers and her stragglin' and such.

Well, yeah, ok. *grin*

I liked the strip, btw. Even though I am a big Kara fan.

Seriously, the Kryptonite batarang is about the only way they could have Kara and Cass throw down, obviously (or some variation thereof).

They could fight way down in some coal mine, after Kara's been stuck down there for a week or two, or something.

Come to think of it, that could be a cool story: Kara awakens two miles deep in a coal mine (Don't ask me how she got there), she is stuck in the absolute dark, and realizes that her powers are already severely waning. Her weakness and terror combine to cause her to totally lose it.

She completely breaks down and begins to question whether she is a human girl who just imagined the whole Krypton thing, or whether she is a Kryptonian girl who just imagined coming to Earth. She starts to lose her identity completely, but in the end, through sheer strength of will, pulls it together, finds her way out, and is totally and utterly rejuvenated and instilled with a brand new confidence and sense of self.

And it could be like a reverse of that Byrne issue of Alpha Flight which took place in the blizzard. This could be almost all black panels. Hey! That means I could do the art. :)

OK, talk about a tangent! Anyhow, just thinking out loud.

Drink

11-14-2006, 01:11 PM

Well, yeah, ok. *grin*

I liked the strip, btw. Even though I am a big Kara fan.

Seriously, the Kryptonite batarang is about the only way they could have Kara and Cass throw down, obviously (or some variation thereof).

They could fight way down in some coal mine, after Kara's been stuck down there for a week or two, or something.

Come to think of it, that could be a cool story: Kara awakens two miles deep in a coal mine (Don't ask me how she got there), she is stuck in the absolute dark, and realizes that her powers are already severely waning. Her weakness and terror combine to cause her to totally lose it.

She completely breaks down and begins to question whether she is a human girl who just imagined the whole Krypton thing, or whether she is a Kryptonian girl who just imagined coming to Earth. She starts to lose her identity completely, but in the end, through sheer strength of will, pulls it together, finds her way out, and is totally and utterly rejuvenated and instilled with a brand new confidence and sense of self.

And it could be like a reverse of that Byrne issue of Alpha Flight which took place in the blizzard. This could be almost all black panels. Hey! That means I could do the art. :)

OK, talk about a tangent! Anyhow, just thinking out loud.
That's actually a really neat idea. It sounds a lot better than many of the stories I've seen so far with Supergirl (No offense of course).

Jack Zodiac

11-14-2006, 01:18 PM

Nonono... Green Lantern Ch'p (the cartoon squirrel GL) was actually killed by a yellow truck in the pages of GL Mosaic. No foolin'!

'Twas what I was refer'n to. It's twice as funny because he's an anthropomorphic Green Lantern and was smeared across the blacktop. Awesome.

Justin Carr

11-14-2006, 05:15 PM

We did a follow-up for the Misfit strip. Bot didn't know whether or not to post it. I was afraid that Ms. Simone might construe it as 'an attack.' I didn't mean it to seem like that. It's more a statement that Misfit is really hard to write for Casstoon. Since we're a parody cartoon, her being a parody-style character already, is even harder.

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Edit: Just in case you're confused, for Casstoon, we've revealed that Jimmy Olsen is really the devil.

Drink

11-14-2006, 05:16 PM

*EDIT* Justin beat me to it.

But the reason Jimmy's eyes are red is because he's Satan in the Casstoons.

Blight

11-15-2006, 12:14 AM

No that can't be right.. does that mean that not only is someone the devil.. but also a woman? Well I guess that explains somethings..

ChthonicSpirit

11-15-2006, 12:40 AM

No that can't be right.. does that mean that not only is someone the devil.. but also a woman? Well I guess that explains somethings..

He can change his form. But the freckles will always remain.

ChthonicSpirit

11-15-2006, 12:43 AM

Come to think of it, that could be a cool story: Kara awakens two miles deep in a coal mine (Don't ask me how she got there), she is stuck in the absolute dark, and realizes that her powers are already severely waning. Her weakness and terror combine to cause her to totally lose it.

She completely breaks down and begins to question whether she is a human girl who just imagined the whole Krypton thing, or whether she is a Kryptonian girl who just imagined coming to Earth. She starts to lose her identity completely, but in the end, through sheer strength of will, pulls it together, finds her way out, and is totally and utterly rejuvenated and instilled with a brand new confidence and sense of self.

And it could be like a reverse of that Byrne issue of Alpha Flight which took place in the blizzard. This could be almost all black panels. Hey! That means I could do the art. :)

Hmm. Have you ever read any of Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol?

d newton

11-15-2006, 12:57 AM

*I came up with it by myself!* Priceless. Okay, since when did the character in the last strip of the second Casstoons set gain super powers? :confused:

The Xenos

11-15-2006, 02:17 AM

Actually, you could maybe think of Misfit as an intentional Mary Sue. Well, that's one theory I got. To me, it's some of that Grant Morrison metatexual mojo jojo or mumbo jumbo. The character repesents the fans and the fanfic writers who want to be a part of the story alongside their favorite character. In this particular case, you have a fan wanting to be Batgirl.

Then again I got this crazy theory that the cult in 52 is commentary on rabid fans wanting to ressurect chacters that DC has killed off and restore the DCU to happier times.

We did a follow-up for the Misfit strip. Bot didn't know whether or not to post it. I was afraid that Ms. Simone might construe it as 'an attack.' I didn't mean it to seem like that. It's more a statement that Misfit is really hard to write for Casstoon. Since we're a parody cartoon, her being a parody-style character already, is even harder.

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Edit: Just in case you're confused, for Casstoon, we've revealed that Jimmy Olsen is really the devil.

Well, it's not as if there's not precident of Jimmy swinging that way. Super dickery link (http://www.superdickery.com/oneshot/2.html) All Star link (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/AgentONeal/olsen.jpg)

Justin Carr

11-15-2006, 04:11 AM

*I came up with it by myself!* Priceless. Okay, since when did the character in the last strip of the second Casstoons set gain super powers? :confused:

You kidding? In the Silver Age, he gained a superpower every other issue.

diana_fan

11-15-2006, 09:47 AM

Hmm. Have you ever read any of Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol?

Actually, I have.

Good point. :)

Azrael52

11-15-2006, 10:03 AM

Dude, I want all of these in a book, now. DC, get a sense of humor, and hire these guys for a parody book! Pronto!

Sharpandpointies

11-15-2006, 10:13 AM

Send them a message.

I'd buy it. :)

Jack Zodiac

11-15-2006, 11:30 AM

Then again I got this crazy theory that the cult in 52 is commentary on rabid fans wanting to ressurect chacters that DC has killed off and restore the DCU to happier times.

Nope, that makes perfect sense. I never really decided to examine books in a metatextual sense until I started reading Morrison's work, but outside of certain titles, like Seven Soldiers of Victory, I just don't bother trying, but that's a great idea you have about the cult.

Azrael52

11-15-2006, 12:18 PM

Send them a message.

I'd buy it. :)

No, you wouldn't, because I'd buy it first! :p

ChthonicSpirit

11-15-2006, 03:18 PM

Actually, I have.

Good point. :)

Your coal mine/complete darkness story reminded me of the origin of Mr. Nobody.

Damo

11-15-2006, 04:17 PM

Hm. Hey, how long has she had that Kryptonite batarang anyway?

Because as Lex Luthor has pointed out to courts, Kryptonite poisoning can cause temporary insanity.

...yes.

Deeranged

11-15-2006, 07:03 PM

I dunno about the batgirl is there a need for anymore now we got the BAtwoman and I thought the OYL was to keep the bat-family back to a smaller and tighter group.

Drink

11-15-2006, 07:55 PM

Here's a new storyline still in the process, titled "Tim Drake: Reanimator" (Note: Any parody I have here is for the story, not so much the movies, and even then I use the concept fairly loosely)

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To be continued...

ChthonicSpirit

11-15-2006, 08:38 PM

I dunno about the batgirl is there a need for anymore now we got the BAtwoman and I thought the OYL was to keep the bat-family back to a smaller and tighter group.

Batwoman? God, I could rant for hours about this. She is supposed to be outside the batfamily, and yet she's shamelessly cashing in on Batman's trademark. She's the comic-book equivalent of the Wachowski brothers, and she's being sold to the public on the basis of GASP! ZOMG! High-Profile Gay Character! . . . she's a lesbian, if you hadn't heard.

The Xenos

11-16-2006, 12:55 AM

Here's a new storyline still in the process, titled "Tim Drake: Reanimator" (Note: Any parody I have here is for the story, not so much the movies, and even then I use the concept fairly loosely)

Ha! I just recently finally read Herbert West: Reanimator and a bunch of other Livecraft. Very nice. I gotta see the movie though. It's got Huntress's boyfriend from JLU in it.

Oh yeah, plus my hometown is basically set less than a half hour drive from Arkham. For some reason I thought it was more in the western part of MA, but it's closer to the coast. I was reading Shadow Over Innsmouth and that placed Arkham pretty near. Ipswitch, Rowley, Newburyport, the old B&M railways memtioned is now part of the commuter rail that I take into Boston.

At a con I got a neat shirt that says 'Arkham Ambulance & Catering'. Now I wish I got a Miskatonic University Fighting Cephalopods shirt too.

Though I gotta say one thing about the comic, it's a tad annoying reading those strips as individual links. Any chance of putting them as a vertical series of panels? I dunno, that's what I used to do with some of the ones I made. Though I have started to just drag the links for those into a second window and it worked pretty well, so I guess it works if you do that. I'm also thinking it you want to post them with your name an a title, it helps for the strips to be all one image.

Jack Zodiac

11-16-2006, 02:34 AM

Oh yeah, plus my hometown is basically set less than a half hour drive from Arkham. For some reason I thought it was more in the western part of MA, but it's closer to the coast. I was reading Shadow Over Innsmouth and that placed Arkham pretty near. Ipswitch, Rowley, Newburyport, the old B&M railways memtioned is now part of the commuter rail that I take into Boston.

Did you just read it? I love that story. Very rarely do I enjoy first-person narration, but Lovecraft's style is so great, it doesn't matter, and in fact he uses first-person narration to embellish the character's deepening madness in later parts of most of his stories, "A Shadow Over Innsmouth" being one of the best examples.

d newton

11-16-2006, 02:55 AM

You kidding? In the Silver Age, he gained a superpower every other issue.
But this is the Modern Age version of Mr Olsen who's being used in the strips - not the Silver Age one! :D

Drink

11-16-2006, 06:06 AM

Though I gotta say one thing about the comic, it's a tad annoying reading those strips as individual links. Any chance of putting them as a vertical series of panels? I dunno, that's what I used to do with some of the ones I made. Though I have started to just drag the links for those into a second window and it worked pretty well, so I guess it works if you do that. I'm also thinking it you want to post them with your name an a title, it helps for the strips to be all one image.
It's been mentioned before. It just generally made things easier in the uploading process, and our main forum we post these on can show them all at once, so it usually never a priority.

The last time we tried to do the strips in one, or a few, Imageshack was crashing. I'll try to bring it up again though.

In the meantime, here's the storyline continued.

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Drink

11-16-2006, 05:57 PM

And here it is concluded;

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This will actually continue with a future storyline.

Sharpandpointies

11-16-2006, 07:36 PM

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This one caught me by surprise. I laughed. Hard.

.....

I miss Spoiler, dammit.

Drink

11-17-2006, 04:12 PM

Our Commentary on issue 100, sorta;

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ChthonicSpirit

11-17-2006, 04:17 PM

Our Commentary on issue 100, sorta;

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I knew there had to be a reason for that. It's not as if DC would simply turn their backs on a heroine with such potential . . .

thespianphryne

11-17-2006, 07:17 PM

"horde"

..

Justin Carr

11-18-2006, 05:32 AM

I knew there had to be a reason for that. It's not as if DC would simply turn their backs on a heroine with such potential . . .

Yeah, most of the people who've read this strip now think that Tim is a major bastard. I credit Bot's excellent facial expressions on Cass. She really does look incredible sad in it.

David Bedlam

11-18-2006, 01:02 PM

I don't have issue 100, so I can't read this story.

Plus my hands are cold.

AGONY!

Lester C.

11-18-2006, 01:11 PM

If Tim and Cass are roomates in the strip does that mean that they are, oh how shall I phrase it, are having bat sex complete with bat condoms? We hope.

Justin Carr

11-18-2006, 02:30 PM

If Tim and Cass are roomates in the strip does that mean that they are, oh how shall I phrase it, are having bat sex complete with bat condoms? We hope.

Just because a man and woman are roommates, doesn't mean they're sharing a bed. Much like you can be friends with the opposite sex without doing anything sexual with them.

We have this weird sense of continuity in Casstoons. Since she doesn't currently have a boyfriend/lover in the comics, she doesn't in Casstoons. We attribute and exaggerate characteristics of many characters, but we don't contradict.

The general rule for Cass and Sex is "She shalt not." Among some of the writers of Casstoons (*looks at Bot*), Cass has been elevated to Virgin Mary status.

EspanolBot

11-18-2006, 02:38 PM

Hey, I have no problem with Cass having sex, as long as it's with someone she's close to, isn't an arsehole and I like.

So Tim's out of the question, as is Hal and Ollie.

In terms of character we do seem to have a weird mix of features. Like Hal is his Silver Age self (i.e. incredibly un-PC), while Jimmy being the Devil was partially inspired by the number of old stories there used to be consisting of Jimmy trying to kill Superman for some bizarre reason (the covers can be seen on the website www.superdickery.com if you're interested. :) ).

Whereas Kara... my views on her are well known amongst the Superdickery posters so I won't even start.

Cam63

11-18-2006, 02:41 PM

If Tim and Cass are roomates in the strip does that mean that they are, oh how shall I phrase it, are having bat sex complete with bat condoms? We hope.

Tim wouldn't want to mix them up with his bat-cable cutters.

Damo

11-18-2006, 02:48 PM

I think Cass lets Tim sleep in the closet. Tim's just glad to have somewhere to stay where he doesn't have to lock the door at night, unlike Wayne Manor.

EspanolBot

11-18-2006, 03:05 PM

In the Casstoons he's on the couch. :) But it appears that anyone who ends up having sex ends up in Cass' bed.

Lester C.

11-18-2006, 03:17 PM

Just because a man and woman are roommates, doesn't mean they're sharing a bed. Much like you can be friends with the opposite sex without doing anything sexual with them.

We have this weird sense of continuity in Casstoons. Since she doesn't currently have a boyfriend/lover in the comics, she doesn't in Casstoons. We attribute and exaggerate characteristics of many characters, but we don't contradict.

The general rule for Cass and Sex is "She shalt not." Among some of the writers of Casstoons (*looks at Bot*), Cass has been elevated to Virgin Mary status.
He is a horny teenager. She is a horny teenager. They live together in the same place. Something happening between episodes of Casstoons, a strip I really love by the way. All of your deserve a pat on the back for those strips.

Drink

11-18-2006, 04:14 PM

It's a two bedroom apartment, but Cass converted the second one into her dojo.

And Tim's getting plenty from Cassie (Wondergirl) and Rose and Mia besides, and as said, Cass wouldn't do anything like that with any of the arseholes. We have it so that she has a crush on Midnighter, but since he's married and gay, it would never work out.

And in a few storylines, we're introing another possible crush for her ;)

Damo

11-18-2006, 04:30 PM

...And my joke about Robin being in the closet resulted in people making serious responses. Tch.

EspanolBot

11-18-2006, 04:32 PM

Casstoons Tim is very much not gay. Trust me on this.

EspanolBot

11-18-2006, 05:23 PM

Written by Me, a semi-serious strip based on my views on Kara and the upcoming Versus issue.
This seems to have upset some people. Also it refers to a strip from several months ago.

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Drink

11-18-2006, 05:30 PM

And here's one regarding something Gail said on the chat the other night;

http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/8556/kicksstripbn1.png (http://imageshack.us)

I would have loved to have seen this book. The girls all have such different personalities, and with Gail writing it...

It just convinces me that the people at DC have no clue.

EspanolBot

11-18-2006, 05:43 PM

Gail had a lot of good idea regarding Cass. I kind of liked that Christain Cass idea, if it wasn't done in a heavy handed evangelical way which I'm confident that Gail wouldn't have done. :)

Drink

11-18-2006, 05:52 PM

Gail had a lot of good idea regarding Cass. I kind of liked that Christain Cass idea, if it wasn't done in a heavy handed evangelical way which I'm confident that Gail wouldn't have done. :)
So no Pope Cass then...

Justin Carr

11-18-2006, 06:06 PM

So no Pope Cass then...
Casstoons will always have a Pope Cass.

Drink

11-18-2006, 06:27 PM

Casstoons will always have a Pope Cass.
She's not a very busy Pope though. The last time she had the Pope hat on was when she was going to kill Damian for being the Anti-Christ.

Lester C.

11-18-2006, 06:41 PM

I think you guys should start an offical Casstoons Yabs thread. This way we, and by we I mean you guys, can post old and new strips.

Hybrid2

11-18-2006, 08:15 PM

Are these on a site? i want to see them all.

Justin Carr

11-18-2006, 08:32 PM

Are these on a site? i want to see them all.

We don't have a site as of yet. Still ironing out the details. However, we do have the first 400 in .rar forms. That means you can't read the most up-to-date versions (We're somewhere around 470. Not bad for 6 months work.) unless you go to Superdickery or the Batgirl forum on the DC Boards.

Anyway, here's the first 400, let me know if these don't work.

1-100 (http://rapidshare.com/files/1492466/1-100.rar)

101-200 (http://rapidshare.com/files/1493986/101-200.rar)

201-300 (http://rapidshare.com/files/1493987/201-300.rar)

310-400 (http://rapidshare.com/files/1493988/301-400.rar)