Where is american music headed now?

[CLARK BENT]

From jazz,r&b,rock and now hip hop what is the next big musical art form! All of these art form where very big, but they're not so much anymore besides hip-hop! Hip-hop will soon face the same fate as the rest...so whats next??????????????

[Gozwald73]

please please please please please be anything BUT hip hop

[Armless Penguin]

Since when was rock not as big as hip-hop? This is news to me.

[Jonathan Bogart]

Since when was rock not as big as hip-hop? This is news to me.
Saleswise? For about ten years.

Look at the Billboard charts any given week; rap and hip-hop-inflected r&b clearly dominate over any rock genres.

[Fish Sauce]

Yeah, rock's still popular, but rap and hip-hop dominate the charts.

Which sucks for me, cause I don't like it at all. Maybe a couple of songs, but not the stuff that makes the Top 40 anyway.

No idea what the next thing will be. Usually a whole cultural movement or event accompanies the rise of a genre - see the prohibition helping the rise of jazz, the kids and their "evil" rock, and now the hip-hop guys and girls.

I think I'm talking crap, but whatever.

[cadmium_blimp]

...but not the stuff that makes the Top 40 anyway.

Who likes that anyway?

[Agent Helix]

The thing is, it's not like any of the genres that aren't #1 right now have gone away. Hip-Hop has been dominating the charts for a while now, but the various different styles of rock are still extremely popular. So I'm not sure what "fate" any of those other styles of music have suffered, or is in store for the current wave.

[Fish Sauce]

Who likes that anyway?

Heh, true. But someone must if it's in the Top 40.

Scary but true.

[Jonathan Bogart]

The thing is, it's not like any of the genres that aren't #1 right now have gone away. Hip-Hop has been dominating the charts for a while now, but the various different styles of rock are still extremely popular. So I'm not sure what "fate" any of those other styles of music have suffered, or is in store for the current wave.
Well, it's only barely possible to make a living as a jazz musician anymore. Rock, as I've said before, is where jazz was in the 1960s and 70s, still innovating but appealing to an increasingly limited audience except in the most bland and brainless form possible. (Nickelback in this scenario would be not unlike Chuck Mangione.) Acts like Gorillaz, Gnarls Barkley, and Lily Allen are showing the way towards a union of hip-hop and more traditional forms of rock and pop, which I think is the wave of the future.

Or -- what was the other option the last time we had this thread? Death-metal mariachi?

[Fish Sauce]

Or -- what was the other option the last time we had this thread? Death-metal mariachi?

Now that I would listen to!

[Adam Crocker]

Or -- what was the other option the last time we had this thread? Death-metal mariachi?

Doom gaze!

[mattx110]

i'm gonna have to go with "the gutter"

[DDM]

...down in the cesspool of mediocrity...

[scratchie]

...down in the cesspool of mediocrity...And it was always so consistently excellent until just recently!

[twilight]

Towards a brighter musical future where the Seattle grunge sound meets the tuba.

[Erisu Kimu]

Banjo with electronica beats, some trumpets, a juice blender and the sound of flies buzzing inside of a jar.

Nah, I only hear experimental music.

[mattx110]

twilight: Towards a brighter musical future where the Seattle grunge sound meets the tuba.

this may not be far off from the truth.
there's a growing and sizable portion of jazz in NY and southern major city areas like DC and virginia, where jazz and a bit of a heavier rock mix quite well. while you might not see many tubas, saxaphones and trumpets are all around mixing with rock.

[P-Man]

American pop music is based on one thing nowadays: Can people dance to it? That trend will probably continue. Although I often wonder what people mean when they say they can or can't dance to something. Usually when they say "you can't dance to that" they mean it doesn't have some hip-hop chicky-chicky-boom-boom sound, which is silly cause you can dance to a LOT more kinds of music than that.

The real question though, is "who cares?" We have the internet. We can all disover whatever kind of music we want to listen to and not give a damn about what's topping the billboard charts. The only downside to enjoying music that isn't commerically successful is that it greatly reduces your chances of seeing it performed live.

And add me to the list of people that would listen to Death Metal Mariachi.

[CLARK BENT]

From jazz,r&b,rock and now hip hop what is the next big musical art form! All of these art form where very big, but they're not so much anymore besides hip-hop! Hip-hop will soon face the same fate as the rest...so whats next??????????????

I came up with this when i was high... there is no such thing as american music. There really is no such thing as amreica period.

[scratchie]

American pop music is based on one thing nowadays: Can people dance to it? That trend will probably continue.You sure you want to go out on a limb like that?

[CLARK BENT]

I came up with this when i was high... there is no such thing as american music. There really is no such thing as amreica period.

You have the euro, africans, latino, asain and indian...what?

[CLARK BENT]

You have the euro, africans, latino, asain and indian...what?

DUDE WHAT ARE YOU ON! Are you watching "Birth of a Nation"?

[rick]

DUDE WHAT ARE YOU ON! Are you watching "Birth of a Nation"?


I saw that movie once but missed the subtitles.

Who were all those guys in the white robes and masks saving the lady from the bad guy?

I think they were Catholic since I saw those same outfits on the guys who helped wack "Joey Zaza" in Godfather III.

[CLARK BENT]

I saw that movie once but missed the subtitles.

Who were all those guys in the white robes and masks saving the lady from the bad guy?

Those good old american christains were the klan and they were saving the americans from the big bad negro.;)

I think they were Catholic since I saw those same outfits on the guys who helped wack "Joey Zaza" in Godfather III.

Not sure if they were catholic being that the klan hates them!

[rick]

Not sure if they were catholic being that the klan hates them!



Damm.

My joke was just to obscure for anyone.!!!!

[mattx110]

there not being an "american music" is one of the silliest things i've heard. do some research. from carl perkins to jimmy bryant to joe oliver, there certainly is an american music. though i can understand being high leading to a lapse of judgement...

and rick... if you got it, welll, hope people stop clicking on the thread because the more people see the joke, the more the percentage of people that got the joke goes down.

oh, and i don't get it. but if you look a bit under the sort of big pop thing, a lot more should come from cities, especially in the south. yankee "street cred" is equalizing with urbanization and education in the south (i hope/think).

and i just realized... nobody saw godfather 3 without blocking it from memory... sooo it's hard to joke about.

[P-Man]

yankee "street cred" is equalizing with urbanization and education in the south (i hope/think).

Ummm. . . wha? Please explain, because I have no idea what you're talking about.

[TheLazy]

please please please please please be anything BUT hip hop

I don't know if you've ever heard of Niche, but I would take Hip-Hop over Niche any day. At least Hip-Hop is still an originally constructed composition, as opposed to putting a baseline on a popular song. Im pretty ecletic, but I prefer Progressive/Thrash Metal BTW, before anyone writes me off as a some popcharts fan.

Since when was rock not as big as hip-hop? This is news to me.

I was thinking this. I read an article in Kerrang! a British magazine, that said that this years line up at Download, a British Rock festival, the three headliners, Metallica, Guns'n'Roses, and Tool, outsold the entire lineup of the Virgin Festival, and the combined sales from Download artists outsold the artists attening every other festival takeing place in the UK.

I'd say rocks just as big, but not as prominant, as it relies on album sales not single sales.


Or -- what was the other option the last time we had this thread? Death-metal mariachi?

They can make Death Metal/Jazz Fusion sound good, I'm sure they can make this sound good;)

[RickThunderclees]

Corporate radio!

We listen to what Coke and Disney want us to hear!!! YEEEEEE HAW!!!!!!