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JeffreyWKramer
11-12-2006, 08:08 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15667442/site/newsweek/

President Bush’s job approval rating has fallen to just 31 percent, according to the new NEWSWEEK Poll. Bill Clinton’s lowest rating during his presidency was 36 percent; Bush’s father’s was 29 percent, and Ronald Reagan’s was 35 percent. Jimmy Carter’s and Richard Nixon’s lows were 28 and 23 percent, respectively. (Just 24 approve of outgoing Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s job performance; and 31 percent approve of Vice President Dick Cheney’s.)

Worst of all, most Americans are writing off the rest of Bush’s presidency; two-thirds (66 percent) believe he will be unable to get much done, up from 56 percent in a mid-October poll; only 32 percent believe he can be effective. That’s unfortunate since 63 percent of Americans say they’re dissatisfied with the way things are going in the country; just 29 percent are satisfied, reports the poll of 1,006 adults conducted Thursday and Friday nights.

Bush's approval rating is at the same low level as Cheney's, and Bush just dumped Rummy, the one guy that made him look good in the eyes of some.

I'm predicting this continued trend, along with the election results, will cause a lot of the remaining GOP folk in Congress to abandon the White House's agenda. Whether that means they will go along with the Dems remains to be seen, of course, and will probably depend mostly on just what the Dems actually do. If they go radically left, the GOPers can continue to do their own thing and probably be joined by some of the newer, more moderate Democrats, without towing the White House line. If the Dems are smart and go for very centrist reforms and work with the fiscal conservative and libertarian contingents within the GOP, though, I expect they can get a lot passed, and bury the White House agenda.

Your thoughts?

Paradox
11-12-2006, 08:27 AM
JeffreyWKramer points out a change:

I'm predicting this continued trend, along with the election results, will cause a lot of the remaining GOP folk in Congress to abandon the White House's agenda.

So...they'll be going back to being conservatives?

moebius
11-12-2006, 08:34 AM
Bill Clinton’s lowest rating during his presidency was 36 percent; Bush’s father’s was 29 percent, and Ronald Reagan’s was 35 percent.

Isn't GW just living the the American dream, by being better off than his parents?

Tobias March
11-12-2006, 08:37 AM
I doubt the Democrats will swing to the far left. The centre is working out for them, getting them the votes they need. Plus weren't a large number of senators just voted in former Republicans and/or conservative Democrats?

JeffreyWKramer
11-12-2006, 08:59 AM
So...they'll be going back to being conservatives?

We can hope so. Fiscal conservatives, at least.

Drew Van T.
11-12-2006, 09:47 AM
If the Dems are smart and go for very centrist reforms and work with the fiscal conservative and libertarian contingents within the GOP, though, I expect they can get a lot passed, and bury the White House agenda.

They might be able to bury parts of the Patriot Acts that way, but what else? Libertarian Repubicans won't go along with a healthcare proposal, or with any economic proposal that's not a tax cut, or an attempt to roll back the anti-union legislation, or with any attempt to force companies to keep jobs inside America, etc.

I think that apart from the Iraq war, people are tired of seeing nothing whatsoever get done. As simple as that. Democrats therefore should seize the opportunity to propose as much as possible. If they come up with 12 major proposals, and Bush vetoes 11 of them, Dems will have proven their willingness (and necessary political courage) to get something done, while Bush will have confirmed that he's for doing nothing. From here on out, whichever party gets labelled as the inaction party is going to be in real trouble IMO.

Of course, for that to work, they shouldn't try to investigate Bush, because then he can claim that petty partisanship is the real reason for all the inaction...

StoneGold
11-12-2006, 10:28 AM
You mean Bush might not be reelected?

Paradox
11-12-2006, 10:39 AM
**beats StoneGold with a large wooden spoon** :rolleyes:

Boldido
11-12-2006, 11:08 AM
We can hope so. Fiscal conservatives, at least.
Gee, it sure would be nice to see one or two of those, I thought only theocrats were allowed.

Solaris
11-12-2006, 03:39 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15667442/site/newsweek/



Bush's approval rating is at the same low level as Cheney's, and Bush just dumped Rummy, the one guy that made him look good in the eyes of some.

I'm predicting this continued trend, along with the election results, will cause a lot of the remaining GOP folk in Congress to abandon the White House's agenda. Whether that means they will go along with the Dems remains to be seen, of course, and will probably depend mostly on just what the Dems actually do. If they go radically left, the GOPers can continue to do their own thing and probably be joined by some of the newer, more moderate Democrats, without towing the White House line. If the Dems are smart and go for very centrist reforms and work with the fiscal conservative and libertarian contingents within the GOP, though, I expect they can get a lot passed, and bury the White House agenda.

Your thoughts?


Even some of those who've been duped learn over time. Sadly, it came at great cost on multiple fronts... some of which haven't even been calculated yet. Dammit.

You wanted my thoughts; that's my thoughts. :D

Solaris
11-12-2006, 03:39 PM
**beats StoneGold with a large wooden spoon** :rolleyes:


*grabs popcorn*

:D ;)

StoneGold
11-12-2006, 04:04 PM
**beats StoneGold with a large wooden spoon** :rolleyes:
Sadly, my one weakness is sporks. That said, seriously, he's now officially a lame duck president, what the hell does he care about how people thinks he's doing? There's still not enough of a majority to do anything like force an impeachment, so why should he care?

SUPERECWFAN1
11-12-2006, 04:10 PM
Damn does this mean we won't get to see G.W land a fighter jet on a warship and proclaim " Mission Accomplished " .

Valmore
11-12-2006, 04:11 PM
Sadly, my one weakness is sporks. That said, seriously, he's now officially a lame duck president, what the hell does he care about how people thinks he's doing? There's still not enough of a majority to do anything like force an impeachment, so why should he care?

His legacy, man! Think of his legacy!!!

StoneGold
11-12-2006, 04:13 PM
His legacy, man! Think of his legacy!!!
Yeah, but if he flops 180, that's not going to help his legacy either. Face it, one way or another, his legacy is Iraq.

Valmore
11-12-2006, 04:15 PM
Yeah, but if he flops 180, that's not going to help his legacy either. Face it, one way or another, his legacy is Iraq.

And hanging, pregnant and dimpled chads.