why the love for Kazuma? [Archive] - Comic Book Resources Forums

Len Ikari145

11-09-2006, 12:59 AM

I think this is the guy from Scry-ed, right? what's so great about him? I've only seen 5 or 6 episodes and I just haven't been that impressed with him.

Only thing I can tell you is to keep watching. And when you can, read the manga adaption of the show.

Yun Lao

11-09-2006, 01:31 AM

Eh, I suggest just reading the manga for various reasons. I suppose one of the reasons why Kazuma deserves some credit is his sheer willpower, especially in the final fight when he's just getting butchered literally.

Totoro Man

11-09-2006, 03:35 AM

I dunno, maybe my problem might be just watching some of the obviously later anime episodes where I couldn't really find myself rooting for Kazuma OR Ryuho. (the blue-haired snooty guy, right?)

Knightosis

11-09-2006, 07:49 AM

Yeah that's Ryuho.

Kazuma is your typical tough cocky guy rebel, wanting to do things his way,
but showing deep dedication to those closest to him.

The Real Nemo

11-11-2006, 11:27 PM

The guy's pretty much the epitome of the shonen hero type (sometimes I think it borders on parody), so if you like that kind of thing I can see why he'd be popular...

Guy1

11-12-2006, 07:42 AM

I think this is the guy from Scry-ed, right? what's so great about him? I've only seen 5 or 6 episodes and I just haven't been that impressed with him.
I for one view him as a bada**. Of course, he 's nowhere near Cougar in terms of coolness.

Yun Lao

11-12-2006, 06:07 PM

I for one view him as a bada**. Of course, he 's nowhere near Cougar in terms of coolness.

I agree that both are quite awesome, though strangely I always liked manga Ryuhou the best. No matter what happened, he was just always an arrogant asshole from beginning to end, unlike many other stories (and the s.CRY.ed anime) characters soften.

master of read

11-12-2006, 08:06 PM

kazuma just doesnt know when to quit. doesnt matter what you do, say and have. if you piss him off, he will keep coming and coming until you are KTFO.

nervmeister

11-12-2006, 08:36 PM

kazuma just doesnt know when to quit. doesnt matter what you do, say and have. if you piss him off, he will keep coming and coming until you are KTFO.Oh please. That type of hero has been done to death in anime. The "glutton for punishment" persistent hero who always wins in the end theme just annoys the crap out of me. In the real world, being persistent only means you get your ass kicked twice as hard. There's no miraculous comeback, no sudden burst of strength that turns the tables, or anything like that. Just a hospital trip or a funeral, your choice............... (sighs) Okay so that was somewhat of a rant.

Totoro Man

11-12-2006, 09:26 PM

ah, so somebody else shares my boredom and annoyance for THAT kind of character too. having seen more of the show, for some reason, I just like Ryuho more... or respect him moreso. can't explain why, exactly.

Far From Realmer

11-12-2006, 09:28 PM

Oh please. That type of hero has been done to death in anime. The "glutton for punishment" persistent hero who always wins in the end theme just annoys the crap out of me. In the real world, being persistent only means you get your ass kicked twice as hard. There's no miraculous comeback, no sudden burst of strength that turns the tables, or anything like that. Just a hospital trip or a funeral, your choice............... (sighs) Okay so that was somewhat of a rant.

Somewhat? people in the real world don't have superpowered arms that react to their drive to live. If they did then you'd see it in the real world. You might as well say your sick of all fiction devices/powers because they do things people don't do in the real world.

KameTen

11-12-2006, 11:11 PM

The Real Nemo

11-13-2006, 01:01 AM

Oh please. That type of hero has been done to death in anime. The "glutton for punishment" persistent hero who always wins in the end theme just annoys the crap out of me. In the real world, being persistent only means you get your ass kicked twice as hard. There's no miraculous comeback, no sudden burst of strength that turns the tables, or anything like that. Just a hospital trip or a funeral, your choice............... (sighs) Okay so that was somewhat of a rant.
The part about persistence not paying off in the real world is kind of an overstatement, but yeah that type of charatcer is pretty typical in shonen action series. Like I said what makes Kazuma different is that he does it to the extreme, sometimes to the point that it almost seems like parody.

Len Ikari145

11-13-2006, 01:56 AM

Oh please. That type of hero has been done to death in anime. The "glutton for punishment" persistent hero who always wins in the end theme just annoys the crap out of me. In the real world, being persistent only means you get your ass kicked twice as hard. There's no miraculous comeback, no sudden burst of strength that turns the tables, or anything like that. Just a hospital trip or a funeral, your choice............... (sighs) Okay so that was somewhat of a rant.

You're applying Real life(where superpowers are nonexistent) to fiction(where it's a basic commodity of everyday life)? You speak bloody witchcraft sir! (either that, or you have yet grasp the concept of what fiction is). Besides, without persistence, of course you won't get anywhere in life; that's what Kazuma basically epitomizes.

As for Ryuho and Kazuma, I'll take determination, passion and clout over pathetic broodiness and stoicity anyday(I personally liked Ryuho better when he was amnesiac).

master of read

11-13-2006, 01:59 AM

kazuma does it to death. kazuma fights on sheer guts and will power alone. remember his last fight with mujo? mujo was just saying all this stuff about how strong he was and how kazuma stood no chance and how he would crush him like a bug. kazuma's answer: i dont care. he just kept on coming with a sick grin. he then when on a rant on how he didnt have anything: no parents, no family, a fancy job or title, or even a last name. but the one thing he has is his fist. and that was enough

but what separates him from other heroes is his anger. sometimes, he doesnt fight to save people or to do the right thing. most of the time its just some guy who pissed him off and he had to KTFO of him.

nervmeister

11-13-2006, 06:22 PM

You're applying Real life(where superpowers are nonexistent) to fiction(where it's a basic commodity of everyday life)? You speak bloody witchcraft sir! (either that, or you have yet grasp the concept of what fiction is). Besides, without persistence, of course you won't get anywhere in life; that's what Kazuma basically epitomizes.

As for Ryuho and Kazuma, I'll take determination, passion and clout over pathetic broodiness and stoicity anyday(I personally liked Ryuho better when he was amnesiac).Okay, so maybe I overstated things a little. I think a better way to say it is that, I lean more towards a hero who at least acknowledges his limits.

Len Ikari145

11-14-2006, 02:04 AM

Okay, so maybe I overstated things a little. I think a better way to say it is that, I lean more towards a hero who at least acknowledges his limits.

Oh, well that's more reasonable to understand then.:D

The Drunkard Kid

11-16-2006, 11:00 AM

All I wanna know is...did manga Kazuma survive an evisceration due to "Treasonous Thoughts"? Did he survive something that should have killed him because he rebelled against the thought of death?

Because if thats the case, then I can't like that character under the grounds of the reasoning being one of the dumbest I've read out of any comic book.Actually, he survives stuff like evisceration and dismemberment by betraying his own weak impulses to the point where he basically forces his Alter power to rev up to keep pace with him, allowing him to basically regenerate by absorbing the ambient particles and turning them to his own body instead of just his Alter.

Ryuho, after seeing him do the aforementioned, does it himself later on (though Scherise does basically have to revive him with her alter by having sex with his unconcious body so that he could even live long enough to do that, but fanservice is fanservice...).

Young Avenger

11-16-2006, 11:30 AM

I hate Kazuma. That guy should have died tens times over in that series. I found him to be too much of a moron to be likeable. The guy's right arm is in terrible shape and he can't open his right eye yet he still overuses his power. What the f*@# is wrong with this guy? And his solution to everything was to punch everything and his rivalry with Ryuho felt pointless. The series would have been better if it had a level headed hero as a lead.

KameTen

11-16-2006, 02:47 PM

KameTen

11-16-2006, 02:50 PM

Actually, he survives stuff like evisceration and dismemberment by betraying his own weak impulses to the point where he basically forces his Alter power to rev up to keep pace with him, allowing him to basically regenerate by absorbing the ambient particles and turning them to his own body instead of just his Alter.

Ryuho, after seeing him do the aforementioned, does it himself later on (though Scherise does basically have to revive him with her alter by having sex with his unconcious body so that he could even live long enough to do that, but fanservice is fanservice...).

He survives death by rebelling against his body shutting down, and S-cry-Ed takes care of the rest it would seem.

Somehow, reading it made it seem a lot worse than it is. Just another way to show "fighting spirit", I would guess.

Len Ikari145

11-16-2006, 03:26 PM

Ryuho was the level-headed hero in the story:(

A guy obsesses over somone who managed to sucker-punch him once(I mean, at Kazuma wasn't thinking about fighting Ryuho in every waking moment of his life since he met him), and threatens small, innocent children with his Altar and thinks he's justified in doing so is level-headed? O_o

Totoro Man

11-16-2006, 10:50 PM

compared to Kazuma? ... yeah, mabye. :rolleyes:

Len Ikari145

11-16-2006, 11:27 PM

compared to Kazuma? ... yeah, mabye. :rolleyes:

Oh, c'mon, that's stretching it a little far, don't you think? Ryuho, more often than not, looks he's going to have a nervous breakdown and slaughter everyone. Kazuma at least knows how to relax.

Eliseu Gouveia

11-16-2006, 11:37 PM

read the manga adaption of the show.

Shouldn´t it be the other way around?

Usually, the manga comes first....

Len Ikari145

11-17-2006, 12:02 AM

Shouldn´t it be the other way around?

Usually, the manga comes first....

It's not always the case. Not all manga precedes anime as the Scryed manga was released after the anime(so in this case, the anime is the original canon); the novel, Scryed After, is also canon since it takes place after the anime. Similar cases of this include the Evangelion and Eureka Seven mangakas.

Froggy

11-17-2006, 09:14 PM

cause Kazuma is a mo****)(*)()(_(_&&& MAN!

Yun Lao

11-17-2006, 11:20 PM

Ryuho, after seeing him do the aforementioned, does it himself later on (though Scherise does basically have to revive him with her alter by having sex with his unconcious body so that he could even live long enough to do that, but fanservice is fanservice...).

...hmm and here I thought she just phased out of his body in an awkward position when walked in on, I guess my attention to detail is lacking x.x Oh well

The Drunkard Kid

11-21-2006, 03:00 PM

...hmm and here I thought she just phased out of his body in an awkward position when walked in on, I guess my attention to detail is lacking x.x Oh well
Possibly, but her expression didn't look like it.

Kage Kisaragi

11-30-2006, 05:05 PM

The guy's pretty much the epitome of the shonen hero type (sometimes I think it borders on parody), so if you like that kind of thing I can see why he'd be popular...

So thats the typical Shonen hero, strange none of my favorites were ever described as badass or am i taking the term badass out of the implied context. Characters who were just cool because they were, and not heavied down in prick level attitudes, wait so if most of you guys meet a Kazuma in real life you'd follow him around like a groupie? O_o scary stuff man, scary stuff.

I do admire his devotion but... thats just about it not to mention that can be found in just about any true friend.