It's Official: Bryan Singer to direct "Superman Returns" Sequel

[david r]

TimeWarner announced that Bryan Singer will indeed direct a sequel to "Superman Returns".

Though "Superman Returns" did not perform as well as they'd hoped at the box office, it will turn a profit and TimeWarner believes the franchise has legs.

Bryan says that it will be more action-oriented, like "Wrath of Khan" was. And he hinted to a possible alien threat.

[Captain Smith]

No more Supes mooning over Lois' underpants.

Start the movie with a retcon punch scene and undo Superbaby.

[Kid Quick Foots]

No more Supes mooning over Lois' underpants.

Start the movie with a retcon punch scene and undo Superbaby.

agreed, no more hanging outside her window dreaming of what could have been. its time to kick some ass now

[ValhallaComics]

Singer's directing skill? Usually flawless.

His writing partners? Errored -> Get rid of 'em and bring on Alfred gough and Miles Millar. OR, bring someone from the comics to help write the flick. Tap some of that comic writing goodness.

Alien threat, eh? I'm sure Darkseid won't happen, but that'd be hella' sweet. ;P

I bet it's Brainiac, actually.

[Effect]

I agree, it's not so much Singer that's the problem. It's the writers that need to be changed. Especailly after that whole kid garbage.

Anyone else get weird stalker vibes from Superman in SR?

[Kaos]

yeah..super stalker

[Drakonnen]

alien threat?

Bad ass! This is -exactly- what I said they needed to do. Let Brainiac come and lets have a big hellacious aciton pack throw down.

Just add some Supergirl and Doomsday and mix with liberal amounts of water for perfection.

[Scarlet Speedster]

While Superman doesn't have the Rogues Gallery like Batman, Spider-Man or the Flash, he has enough colourful villains from the past 70 years who could be readily used in the sequel. The Superman films have always used Lex Luthor (or some wannabe as in Superman III), so it's time for someone new to challenge the Man of Steel.

While I liked Singer's film, I'd like to see what new elements Singer can bring to the mythos--Superman Returns is very safe in its reverance to Richard Donner's 1 3/4 Superman films. I like the idea that the sequel will be more action-oriented, but I hope it won't be dumbed down to appeal to all the non-Superman fans.

[megladon8]

Wow...welcome to 3 months ago.

Still, good news.

[Lorendiac]

I have a confession to make. I still haven't even bothered to watch "Superman Returns." After the things I heard, I was in no hurry to sacrifice several of my hard-earned dollars and a couple of hours of my life to go see it when it was on the big screen. Heck, I haven't even been in a video store in a month or so, and I'm not sure if it's out on DVD yet!

So: Am I missing anything I really ought to go do, or do the rest of you envy me for having dodged this bullet so far? :)

[ValhallaComics]

I have a confession to make. I still haven't even bothered to watch "Superman Returns." After the things I heard, I was in no hurry to sacrifice several of my hard-earned dollars and a couple of hours of my life to go see it when it was on the big screen. Heck, I haven't even been in a video store in a month or so, and I'm not sure if it's out on DVD yet!

So: Am I missing anything I really ought to go do, or do the rest of you envy me for having dodged this bullet so far? :)

To each his or her own. I had issues with Superman Returns, because of plot holes, some of the acting, the basic theme of the movie, the story, and a few other things... but, honestly, this is a movie you should see in the theater, if for only the special effects. ;P

[Ontir]

I have a confession to make. I still haven't even bothered to watch "Superman Returns." After the things I heard, I was in no hurry to sacrifice several of my hard-earned dollars and a couple of hours of my life to go see it when it was on the big screen. Heck, I haven't even been in a video store in a month or so, and I'm not sure if it's out on DVD yet!

So: Am I missing anything I really ought to go do, or do the rest of you envy me for having dodged this bullet so far? :)

You missed quite a bit, as it's really a "BIG SCREEN" film. It's also quite good. Yes, it lags in spots, and could've been tightened up a bit; but if you go to see what the film is, rather than how it fails to be the movie you wanted it to be, you're going to enjoy it.

[cactusmaac]

There's no point watching it unless you see it on the big screen.

[big_dippin]

Thats good news for me. I'm interested in seeing where he'll take the movie.

[Frankie Dennis]

Get rid of that lousy writing team, and bring on Brainiac.

[J. Robb]

So: Am I missing anything I really ought to go do, or do the rest of you envy me for having dodged this bullet so far? :)
Well, you missed out on the Imax 3D, which was really cool. I'm looking forward to the DVD, but I'm resigned to the fact that it's not going to be nearly as engrossing on a small, 2D screen.

[alextron]

Maybe Zod will come back and kill that Kid! YAY!:evilsmile

[Effect]

You know what would be interesting. Have Toyman for the villian and get the team that did Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow to handle all the different retro style robots for him to fight.

[Indefatigable]

Well it's good that Singer apparently knows almost everyone wanted to see Supes punch someone.

[Hellcow]

Damn. There goes my chances of watching a great superman movie in my lifetime.

Do they have cinema in the afterlife?

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I have a confession to make. I still haven't even bothered to watch "Superman Returns." After the things I heard, I was in no hurry to sacrifice several of my hard-earned dollars and a couple of hours of my life to go see it when it was on the big screen. Heck, I haven't even been in a video store in a month or so, and I'm not sure if it's out on DVD yet!

So: Am I missing anything I really ought to go do, or do the rest of you envy me for having dodged this bullet so far? :)

INFIDEL!!!!!! JUDAS!!!!! ;) :D

Well, in my opinion, you should have seen this awesome movie on the big screen. Especially since you (I guess) had the chance to watch it on IMAX 3D.

BTW, I'm betting the villain will be Brainiac. After all, that's what Donner wanted to make for Superman III. Darkseid? That would rock if done properly, but I guess it's not gonna happen.

[rilokyle]

As long as hunky James Marsden is there, I'm in.

[Kaos]

pssht the x-traitor

[Buried Alien]

If Brainiac is indeed the villain of the next SUPERMAN movie, how will he look? I hope they're not going to go with the Silver Age bald green alien look. That just wouldn't work onscreen these days. I prefer the metallic cyborg look of the 1980s.

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[Sean Whitmore]

If Brainiac is indeed the villain of the next SUPERMAN movie, how will he look? I hope they're not going to go with the Silver Age bald green alien look. That just wouldn't work onscreen these days. I prefer the metallic cyborg look of the 1980s.


I would honestly be shocked if they went with any other version than the robotic Brainiac.

Like you said, bald-no-pants-city-shrinker or yellow-goateed-carnival-mentalist just ain't gonna fly on the big screen.


SEAN

[nuclearman]

That is great news!!!

Darkseid is a must....

[the film freak]

I just want to see Superman fight some robots or a monster. Seriously is that too much to ask?

Heck I'll even take a giant spider. Because even that beats the hell out of watching Superman get his ass kicked by a bunch of nonpowered thugs.

[kmeyers]

I just want to see Superman fight some robots or a monster. Seriously is that too much to ask?

Heck I'll even take a giant spider. Because even that beats the hell out of watching Superman get his ass kicked by a bunch of nonpowered thugs.
Totally agree with you. We all know Singer can direct an insanely awesome fight scene(See the opening of X2 with Nightcrawler) There just has to be some brawling.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Even with the same creative team behind the film, I think the sequel has the potential to be a vast improvement upon their first effort because it should be adundantly clear to Singer & company what people didn't like about the first film. The criticisms were all remarkably simple. Not enought action. Not enough fun. The last 30 minutes dragged horribly.

If they can avoid these three problems, there's the potential for a very good Superman film here, despite whatever they end up doing with Jason The Unnecessary Plot Development.

[wes_rk]

I say go for broke and bring in Darkseid, or, some hint that Darkseid will be used in the future.

[Buried Alien]

I would honestly be shocked if they went with any other version than the robotic Brainiac.

Like you said, bald-no-pants-city-shrinker or yellow-goateed-carnival-mentalist just ain't gonna fly on the big screen.


SEAN

The "classic" look for Brainiac has been in vogue in the comics lately, so I'm a bit worried. Brainiac's classic look is one "classic" I'm not particularly fond of. His metallic look from just prior to and during CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, however, was awesome.

As for Darkseid: I'm not sure CGI or costume-making has gotten to the point yet where Darkseid can be made to look the way he should. Maybe it is, but for some reason, I'm dubious.


Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[wes_rk]

maybe you're right about that Buried Alien, I haven't thought about it that way. But if they can make The Thing look like that, I'm sure something can be made for Darkseid, and 3 years from now, who knows what special effects will be like.

[the film freak]

Even with the same creative team behind the film, I think the sequel has the potential to be a vast improvement upon their first effort because it should be adundantly clear to Singer & company what people didn't like about the first film. The criticisms were all remarkably simple. Not enought action. Not enough fun. The last 30 minutes dragged horribly.

It's pretty sad when the audience has to tell you there's not enough action when you're making a Superman movie.

For all Singer's "The next one's going to be 'Wrath of Khan'" I'm thinking why didn't he just make that Superman movie. He had the fricking money to do it in the first place. And he even made this one as a psuedo sequel to the first Superman movie so he didn't have to recap the origin (which pretty much everyone knows).


Totally agree with you. We all know Singer can direct an insanely awesome fight scene(See the opening of X2 with Nightcrawler) There just has to be some brawling.

In theory we were suppose to get something that was to top X2 in terms of spectacle. Instead we got something that fell short of X-Men 1. We should of got the Bryan Singer who was going to do Dark Phoenix and the Sentinels and all these awesome things Fox wouldn't let him do.

Ugh. The more I talk about this movie the more I get frustrated. It's not even a terrible movie. It's well done for the most part. But the 12 year old boy in me is just disappointed. He rather have Michael Bay direct the damn thing. And that's a terrible thought.

[Buried Alien]

maybe you're right about that Buried Alien, I haven't thought about it that way. But if they can make The Thing look like that, I'm sure something can be made for Darkseid, and 3 years from now, who knows what special effects will be like.

I didn't think the Thing came off too well in the FANTASTIC FOUR movie. Of the four main characters, he was the most unconvincing (the appearance, not the acting). It wasn't ridiculously awful, but it wasn't particularly impressive either.

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[the film freak]

The "classic" look for Brainiac has been in vogue in the comics lately, so I'm a bit worried. Brainiac's classic look is one "classic" I'm not particularly fond of. His metallic look from just prior to and during CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, however, was awesome.

As for Darkseid: I'm not sure CGI or costume-making has gotten to the point yet where Darkseid can be made to look the way he should. Maybe it is, but for some reason, I'm dubious.


Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Darkseid doesn't strike me as that hard to do. They would probably play with his look a bit so he doesn't look rubbery like the thing but I think it's possible to do a really cool Darkseid.

Silver Brainiac seems more in line with Singers design sense. He used a lot of silver and cool colors in X-Men and Superman (especially on New Krypton and the Fortress). I kind of doubt they would go with purple and green Brainiac. If anything they would probably opt for pale blue Brainiac over green Brainiac.

However pimped out moustache Metallo would totally work in the Singer movies.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Ugh. The more I talk about this movie the more I get frustrated. It's not even a terrible movie. It's well done for the most part. But the 12 year old boy in me is just disappointed. He rather have Michael Bay direct the damn thing. And that's a terrible thought.

Yeah, I feel ya on this one. My inner-12-year-old felt cheated. Totally agree with you here--well, except for the Michael Bay thing. That's just crazy talk.

A overly-long, overly-pretentious Superman flick directed by Bryan Singer is always better than the over-bearing sludge Michael Bay keeps slinging onto the screen.

That said, I'll be there opening night for Transformers.

[kmeyers]

In theory we were suppose to get something that was to top X2 in terms of spectacle. Instead we got something that fell short of X-Men 1. We should of got the Bryan Singer who was going to do Dark Phoenix and the Sentinels and all these awesome things Fox wouldn't let him do.

Ugh. The more I talk about this movie the more I get frustrated. It's not even a terrible movie. It's well done for the most part. But the 12 year old boy in me is just disappointed. He rather have Michael Bay direct the damn thing. And that's a terrible thought.
Awww...that's where it gets complicated..X3, AND Superman Returns BOTH SUCKED.

[the film freak]

Yeah, I feel ya on this one. My inner-12-year-old felt cheated. Totally agree with you here--well, except for the Michael Bay thing. That's just crazy talk.

A overly-long, overly-pretentious Superman flick directed by Bryan Singer is always better than the over-bearing sludge Michael Bay keeps slinging onto the screen.

Well my inner 12 year old read a **** load of Image comics so he doesn't quite know what he's talking about.

But still when I was a kid who loved Superman I was constantly disappointed by Superman movies where he just flew around lifting things or fought guys the same size as him (though Superman II was the only Superman movie I really liked as a kid). I really wanted to see something over the top. I don't know. Maybe Peter Jackson is a better example. How awesome would it be if Superman fought two T. Rexes? Or a Cave Troll?


That said, I'll be there opening night for Transformers.

Seriously. I know it's going to be total trash. But still giant robots wrecking **** is my idea of a good time.

[the film freak]

Awww...that's where it gets complicated..X3, AND Superman Returns BOTH SUCKED.

It's funny they sucked for the opposite reasons. Superman sucked because there wasn't a lot stuff happening and X3 sucked because too much was happening.

Even though I was more disappointed by Superman I say it's a whole lot better then X3 (I wasn't expecting much to begin with).

[Frankie Dennis]

I wonder if Brainiac is in this film if he will have Kandor.

That might turn out interesting.

[ValhallaComics]

I could totally grasp the idea of a metallic silver/blue Brainiac and I really think it'd adapt to the silver screen, as well.

I think the idea of Kandor is a bit ridiculous, though. I would hope that they don't adapt that to the big screen, because I think most people, especially those not familiar with Kandor, would think it was a cheap attempt at recreating an old idea of miniaturization.

My wish would be to have Darkseid in the upcoming flick and I do believe they could do it. Hell, they're working on a new F4 movie that's supposed to introduce Silver Surfer (along w/ Galactus - rumors of course), not to mention that they're going to begin working on a Silver Surfer movie. It could be done. It was done for Hulk (and will again for Hulk 2) and Thing in F4 1. I don't see why not. The only trick would be to get his size to be believable. I think he's supposed to be around 8ft tall or so, right?

[Slade.]

That's how Singer is with his movies. He likes to build up shit. Like with X and X2. First one was just ok, second blew it away. Same shit here probly. He's established what he wants to and Superman Returns was by no means a bad movie, and I think the next one will be great.

And I predict both Darksied and Braniac! :D

[The Batman]

Yeah I agree that Singer will probably be building things up and that while X-Men was alright X2 was just great and I loved Superman Returns so I've got really high expectations for its sequel. :D

That being said, I don't think that I'd want to see Darkseid in any sequel. Brainiac or Zod and Co. maybe, but definately not Darkseid. I don't know that Darkseid and Apokolips would necessarily fit into the real world with the one fantastic element of Superman and Krypton approach that Donner started and Singer seems to have picked up. I think that with this approach trying to bring things in from the Fourth World just might not be the best idea. There's got to be some median ground between no action and Darkseid.

I dunno, maybe it's just me.

[Sean Whitmore]

There's got to be some median ground between no action and Darkseid.


There's a HUGE middle ground between them, and one I expect will be explored. Darkseid is a pipe dream. Superboy Prime has a better chance of appearing.


SEAN

[Buried Alien]

Moreover, although Darkseid first appeared in Jimmy Olsen's comic at the tail end of the Silver Age, and although he's probably found himself up against Superman more often than he did against any other DC superhero, I've always felt that Darkseid was a DCU (in general) foil rather than a Superman (in particular) foil. Darkseid was a product of Kirby's Fourth World, and although Superman was a big part of those early Fourth World stories (to lend some DCU legitimacy to a concept created by a creator mostly associated with Marvel Comics), Darkseid doesn't really belong to Superman's specific mythology in the same way that Luthor, Brainiac, or even Mr. Myxlptlk do.

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[The Batman]

There's a HUGE middle ground between them, and one I expect will be explored. Darkseid is a pipe dream. Superboy Prime has a better chance of appearing.


SEAN

Agreed, I don't know that Darkseid would fit into the reality that Donner and Singer created for the Superman movies without looking a little silly or out of place even. Also, I'm not sure that they could cram all the cool backstory that makes Darkseid so awesome a villian into a movie properly. I have a feeling that any Darkseid we might've gotten in a sequel would be a Darkseid that isn't what people who are asking for Darseid want.

We've got the possibility of a Zod and a chunk of Krypton forming out there that might just make for an interesting ship for a Brainiac. Lotsa possibilities before we get to Darkseid.

[Hellcow]

I don't need to see Wrath of Khan again....

[rainshadow]

Singer is a very big fan of the Donner movies, and he has on more than one occasion been quoted as wanting Jude Law to play Zod. In other words, I would bet my left nut the guy intends for Zod to be in the sequel, whether or not Law is the guy. Singer has admitted SR was disappointing to fans because it was a reintroduction of the character. I mean, geez, it'd been 20 years since Superman last hit the big screen, so it made sense that you had to wean him back. The problem is it had so many "homages" to the original that most people took it as a direct cop-out of the original and, of course, Singer took a lot of heat for it. Frankly it's mind-boggling to me that a studio could make nearly $400M on a friggin' movie before it even comes out on DVD... granted, a $200M+ budget is pretty mind-boggling, too.

A lot of people said they wanted a retelling of the origin tale, which would have led to slow goings, especially at the beginning... which was one of SR's problems. Origin tales are slow in the telling... there's really no way around it. Regardless, if you're reintroducing a character that hasn't been seen in years, you have ease our audience into the story, convince them that their hero is truly back.

One of the things I found interesting about SR is that he actually returned about a month before the five year anniversary of 9/11... meaning he would have left a month before the attacks... if, of course, the tale was being told as a "present day" tale. Intentional? I would imagine.

[The Batman]

See that's one of the things that I sort of expected Superman Returns to deal with, in a roundabout way of course, and was sort of disappointed that they didn't. I wanted people to be asking "why weren't you there to help us Superman?" when he did return or for there to have been some skepticism about Superman and how necessary he really was. We sort of got that but it seemed to come solely from Lois who had entirely different reasons to be upset with the Man of Steel, the rest of the world pretty much welcomed him back with open arms. It might've been nice to see Superman struggle to regain his place in the world paralleled with a struggle over his relationship with Lois.

Maybe.

[rZi]

im not happy with the Superman films...my ultimate satisfaction would be met by like 6 hour long episodes made in animation of an arc such as Infinite Crisis. i know this is ambicious to say the least..and the length mite not be to everyone's tastes but that would be my own personal faviroute =)


infact im gonna ask santa for it this year.

[J. Robb]

I don't need to see Wrath of Khan again....
Hope you didn't see "X-Men 2" then.

[Slade.]

zod would be a huge mistake

that's the whole problem with superman movies

stop doing the same crap over and over and over

this is SUPERMAN, please give him something SUPER to fight

first superman, he fights lex luthor and an earthquake

then he fights zod and kryptonins. 3 completly normal people who have he same powers we've already seen superman do. basicly a super powered lex. *yawn*

superman returns he gets beat up by lex luthor again and thugs

superman returns 2, same thing as the orginal sequal. zod again


jesus talk about boring played out tired concepts and ideas

i hope to god zod is nowhere to be found and pretty much everything about the old movies stays in the old movies from now on. Cuz lets face it they're corny and sucky for today anyway.

[Sean Whitmore]

then he fights zod and kryptonins. 3 completly normal people who have he same powers we've already seen superman do. basicly a super powered lex. *yawn*

i hope to god zod is nowhere to be found and pretty much everything about the old movies stays in the old movies from now on. Cuz lets face it they're corny and sucky for today anyway.


Jeez, the movie industry really lost out when you didn't go into directing.


SEAN

[Fats Tuesday]

Hope you didn't see "X-Men 2" then.

Despite the fact that X-Men 2 is nothing like Wrath of Khan?

I'd love to see Brainiac or Darkseid, but have the sinking feeling it'll be Zod so Singer can remake Superman II.

[PatrickG]

X-Men 2 was like Wrath of Khan in some ways. So was Star Trek: First Contact.

I don't think Singer is saying he'll remake Wrath of Khan.

However... What do you GET in a Wrath of Khan / Search for Spock arc?

An old foe returns, gets the upper hand and requires a sacrifice of someone close to the hero.

Think about Zod's quote to Jor-El:

"You will kneel before me, Jor-El. First you... and then your HEIRS."

Now... Consider... What if the point is that Zod does come back and Superman isn't expecting him? What if Zod kills Superman's son? ('Cause that's where the Wrath of Khan arc leads
And just because Zod is in the movie doesn't mean:

A) That Zod will team with Luthor

B) That new villains won't appear

Y'Know... I think an interesting "Return of the Joker" twist that might put this movie at an 11, emotionally, is if Zod returns and convinces Jason that he is Jason's father. (Conveniently, Jason doesn't know that Superman is his father.)

And what happens when you have Superman in a fistfight with a 8 year old kid who's levelling cities? That's epic drama, however absurd. How does a hero enter a struggle like that and win a moral victory?

[J. Robb]

Despite the fact that X-Men 2 is nothing like Wrath of Khan?
It was just a joke, but I know I'm not the only one who got major "Wrath of Khan" flashbacks from the end of "X-Men 2".

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Its time to kiss Richard White goodbye as well. Key complaints were that fans wanted Lois and Superman to hook up. The hero always goes off with the girl no matter how many obstacles in the way.

Singer directed a great flick and people will likely proclaim its greatness in years down the line. But his biggest fault was he tried to keep fans hooked for a sequel so he's gotta deliver on the Superman/Lois storyline or the female fanbase won't tune in.

Can't wait to see who he gets as the villain.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Y'Know... I think an interesting "Return of the Joker" twist that might put this movie at an 11, emotionally, is if Zod returns and convinces Jason that he is Jason's father. (Conveniently, Jason doesn't know that Superman is his father.)

And what happens when you have Superman in a fistfight with a 8 year old kid who's levelling cities? That's epic drama, however absurd. How does a hero enter a struggle like that and win a moral victory?

Its clear that Jason seemingly knows he has powers and all by now. And Zod is gone for now and Superman is there. It would be a big leap to make Zod convince the young man he's his father.

[jeangreydp]

Have they no mercy?

Just let me movie franchise die quietly!

They are going to resurrect it again and only ruin it further. Blah.


<---- Naysayer.


NAY!

[Slade.]

Jeez, the movie industry really lost out when you didn't go into directing.


SEAN

You're actualy going to say those movies AREN'T corny for today?



I'd love to see Brainiac or Darkseid, but have the sinking feeling it'll be Zod so Singer can remake Superman II.


Thank you.

[rainshadow]

I think the Zod thing is over and done with, too, but I'm not Singer, which is probably the problem. ;)

I mean, heck, Smallville beat the Zod thing to death, too. It's time to move on to a bigger, badder villain.

If it were me, I would have done the Death of Superman storyline in the form of a trilogy. Of course, I wouldn't even have considered TOUCHING the Burton script. That was just weird...

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I think the Zod thing is over and done with, too, but I'm not Singer, which is probably the problem. ;)

I mean, heck, Smallville beat the Zod thing to death, too. It's time to move on to a bigger, badder villain.

If it were me, I would have done the Death of Superman storyline in the form of a trilogy. Of course, I wouldn't even have considered TOUCHING the Burton script. That was just weird...

You mean the Kevin Smith script. AND the Alex Ford script. And the other guy who also wrote a "Death Of Superman" script.

All of them were crap.

[rainshadow]

No, I meant I would have done the Death of Superman as a trilogy. I actually never read the other two version, just the Burton script, but I have heard they were really and truly incredibly bad, and you say the same, so I have no doubt they probably are. Personally I would stick to the source material. Of course you probably won't see a movie made by me, let alone a Superman movie. ;)

[666MasterOfPuppets]

As for Darkseid, if it's done correctly, it would be great. This is something that has been nailed by several posters in this thread. His background and his looks are part of the most fantastic elements of the Superman mythos (although some people might disagree with that, it's what I think), and to put something like that in a live-action movie is something pretty delicate, that has to be done very, very carefully.

And yes, perhaps they'd mess a little bit with his looks to make him more "real". Regarding Zod, I don't know. I liked a lot his appearance in Superman: The Movie and Superman II, but making that character return could make me think like the franchise is not progressing. But OTOH, perhaps Singer can make it awesome and I'm just digressing here.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

No, I meant I would have done the Death of Superman as a trilogy. I actually never read the other two version, just the Burton script, but I have heard they were really and truly incredibly bad, and you say the same, so I have no doubt they probably are. Personally I would stick to the source material. Of course you probably won't see a movie made by me, let alone a Superman movie. ;)

Yeah. Well, I think every attempt at writing a "Death Of Superman" script for a live-action flick has failed miserably, as every script that has been submitted since the first attempts to resurrect the franchise has proven.

It can be done, but WB would have to bring in someone very, very good to write the adaptation.

[kane]

TimeWarner announced that Bryan Singer will indeed direct a sequel to "Superman Returns".


There goes my hope for a good superman movie :(

[666MasterOfPuppets]

There goes my hope for a good superman movie :(

I guess it's not that you didn't like the movie, but actually hated it?

[stealthwise]

And what happens when you have Superman in a fistfight with a 8 year old kid who's levelling cities? That's epic drama, however absurd. How does a hero enter a struggle like that and win a moral victory?

That would just end up absurd, and basically prove to everyone who denounced "Superbaby" that the entire idea was a bad one. You can't pull it off visually and you can't really have it make sense.

People don't want to see Superman slugging it out with a kid, they want to see him fight Luthor, Zod, Brainiac, the Parasite, Darkseid, etc.

[Hellcow]

There goes my hope for a good superman movie :(

Maybe Brian will find something else he wants ruin even more in the mean time and jump ship.

All hope is not lost...yet...but its not looking good...

[kane]

I guess it's not that you didn't like the movie, but actually hated it?

I did not hate it. I was just dissapointed.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I see. Personally, I can't see why some people didn't like it. Well, OK, I know the aspects/ parts of the movie they didn't like, but I can't understand why.

Anyway, I think the sequel is something that a lot more people will like. Have faith, and look up in the sky.

[Frankie Dennis]

but have the sinking feeling it'll be Zod so Singer can remake Superman II.

We are already going to have two versions of Superman 2, I don't want to see a third.

[Jason1Kent]

I thought the returns was great. It showed a person struggling with trying to find who they are before they can commit to another. Also that time stands still for no man and returning isn't always a happy occasion.
But! a world needs him, and no matter how much he needs to settle he can't when he's needed in so many places.
Brandon Routh gives a great performance and I look forward to seeing him kick some alien butt. Singers X-Men 1 was pretty much the same as he likes to introduce the world, its characters etc Not just comic book fans go to movies and so we have to understand that , yes, some people don't know where he came from, who Lex is etc And yes, as crazy as it sounds, thay probably have never heard of Conner! (how they live with themselves, I don't know)

[Titan76]

Here's some good advice Singer should consider when making the second film.

http://movies.msn.com/movies/hitlist/11-03-06_2?GT1=7701

Here we go again. After the disappointing "Superman Returns" hit theaters this summer and took months to eke its way across the $200-million mark in box-office receipts, Warner Bros. has cautiously announced that a second Bryan Singer-directed installment of the series is being developed for a 2009 release. In part because of its large budget (a debatable figure, but even the studio admits it was significantly more than $200 million), Warner expected bigger bucks and fans expected more bang. Still, Warner Bros. is showing loyalty to Singer by bringing him back to direct. Because Singer has been given another chance, the yet-to-be determined screenwriters should consider these helpful suggestions:

Ditch the Kid
Talk about backing yourself into a corner. Introducing the offspring of Lois and Clark forces the franchise to go in a direction that may be a little too "Sky High" let alone "Smallville: The Elementary Years." Send him off to private school or make his human blood diminish his Kryptonian powers until puberty, but do something. A series of movies about Superman as a dad can be summed up in two words: beyond boring.

Action! Action! Action!
Duh. Fans have fond memories of "Superman II" because of those flying battles with General Zod and his crew. It wasn't the Niagara Falls honeymoon sequence that they adored. Screenwriting in the 21st century has to be more creative than having Superman save a space shuttle from crashing, right?

Less Glamour, More Reality for Lois
Fans had concerns about Kate Bosworth being cast as Lois Lane, and although she wasn't awful, the chemistry between her and Brandon Routh was almost nonexistent. More importantly, her character had previously been given a well-rounded edge by Margot Kidder more than 25 years ago. Bosworth's picture-perfect ensembles never made you believe she was a beat reporter, let alone a Pulitzer Prize winner.

More Real Americans Please
From the Daily Planet newsroom to Metropolis street scenes, if one thing was glaringly missing from the latest "Superman," it was a sense that America was a multiracial society. And no, Kal Penn as one of Luthor's henchmen doesn't count ... especially because he didn't have one real line in the movie.

Allow Funny Actors to Be Funny
If Kevin Spacey's Lex Luthor had to be so evil to differentiate himself from Gene Hackman's charming portrayal, it's one thing, but to waste Parker Posey's comic talents by providing her only one funny line is a crime. Even Hugh Jackman's Wolverine got more laughs in Singer's "X-Men" movies.

Better Villains Are Key
Luthor is clearly Superman's arch nemesis, but repeating the land-grabbing premise from "Superman: The Movie" was beyond lame. Somehow, Singer needs to bring in more dangerous foes such as Brainiac and Doomsday to up the ante.

[Constantine Drakon]

TimeWarner announced that Bryan Singer will indeed direct a sequel to "Superman Returns".

......D'oh!

[Hellcow]

Maybe Bryan should direct Superman The Broadway Musical instead?

[Black Atom]

Here's some good advice Singer should consider when making the second film.

http://movies.msn.com/movies/hitlist/11-03-06_2?GT1=7701
Ditch the Kid
Talk about backing yourself into a corner. Introducing the offspring of Lois and Clark forces the franchise to go in a direction that may be a little too "Sky High" let alone "Smallville: The Elementary Years." Send him off to private school or make his human blood diminish his Kryptonian powers until puberty, but do something. A series of movies about Superman as a dad can be summed up in two words: beyond boring.



I don't think the addition of a kid to the mythos was necessarily a bad thing--it's how they handled it. Too much of the story was compromised to make sure the revelation of the boy would be a surprise to Superman and the audience. Superman, Lois and Richard are all made to look irresponsible for the sake of the big reveal that Jason is Supes' son. Plus, we miss out on all the important character development that should come with a revelation like this due to it being placed near the end of the movie. Singer could've made a much better film about Superman becoming a father if he hadn't tried to sensationalize it and use it as a gimmick.

[protonik]

Singer's directing skill? Usually flawless.

His writing partners? Errored -> Get rid of 'em and bring on Alfred gough and Miles Millar. OR, bring someone from the comics to help write the flick. Tap some of that comic writing goodness.

Alien threat, eh? I'm sure Darkseid won't happen, but that'd be hella' sweet. ;P

I bet it's Brainiac, actually.

Sooo, one movie YOU didn't like and the writing crew is errored? They had a hand in X-Men 2 for god's sake...

[Slade.]

There's no Zod, thank God.

It's someone we never seen before...they're "casting big".

[Sean Whitmore]

There's no Zod, thank God.

It's someone we never seen before...they're "casting big".


You mean a villain we've never seen before or an actor we've never seen before?


SEAN

[Slade.]

You mean a villain we've never seen before or an actor we've never seen before?


SEAN


Speaking of the sequel, a rumor from Moviehole says, "For those that think the villain in 'Superman Returns II' will be General Zod -- think again. It's someone you haven&#213;t seen before -- and they wanna cast big!"

hope the rumor is true

holla

[Sean Whitmore]

Cool. Sounds like he just means someone we haven't seen on the big screen.

It best be Brainiac, I knows this much!


SEAN

[GRANT!]

Sooo, one movie YOU didn't like and the writing crew is errored? They had a hand in X-Men 2 for god's sake...

Not to mention the whole story was Singers idea from the get go. I don't think the writers could add in action scenes and characters without his approval.

[GRANT!]

Cool. Sounds like he just means someone we haven't seen on the big screen.

It best be Brainiac, I knows this much!


SEAN

If Brainiac and a legion of robots are in this all will be forgiven.

[the goddamn batman]

It best be Brainiac, I knows this much!


SEAN


Word.







(stupid 10 caharacters)

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Yeah. The Brainiac rumor is more solid now, given what Slade posted.

[MaxofSteel]

I think it'd be sweet if it were Brainiac as well. But I would prefer Supes go up against Bizarro too.

I thought up a scenario (keep an open mind on this one).

What if Brainiac is in fact a US government Artificial Intelligence (B.R.A.I.N.I.A.C). The Brainiac system comes into contact with some kryptonian tech (the crystals) and develops free will.

Say Brainiac gets hold of some cloning research and manages to steal some of Supes' DNA (a la Kryptonite). Supes stops the cloning experiment before its finished, resulting in am effed up version of himself.

Whaddaya think?

[Buried Alien]

I think it'd be sweet if it were Brainiac as well. But I would prefer Supes go up against Bizarro too.

I thought up a scenario (keep an open mind on this one).

What if Brainiac is in fact a US government Artificial Intelligence (B.R.A.I.N.I.A.C). The Brainiac system comes into contact with some kryptonian tech (the crystals) and develops free will.

Say Brainiac gets hold of some cloning research and manages to steal some of Supes' DNA (a la Kryptonite). Supes stops the cloning experiment before its finished, resulting in am effed up version of himself.

Whaddaya think?

Not a bad idea in of itself, but that would make the threats from SUPERMAN II, IV, RETURNS, and this yet-to-be-named sequel all Kryptonian derivatives of one kind or another. I'd like Superman to face a threat that has nothing to do whatsoever with Krypton.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Buckward]

plot for sequel...Superman finds the plot from returns increasingly odd and he soon realizes that Brainiac did sentry-like mind manipulation on him....all that happened in the last movie was all fakeness...man i hate that super kid

[666MasterOfPuppets]

As long as it doesn't happen in the comics, I'm OK with it.

[SKETCHSANCHEZ]

Apparently the title is "The Man of Steel"

[Ontir]

What if Brainiac were the reverse engineered/re-worked AI from a crashed UFO, which also contained the Bottle City of Kandor, unbeknownst to the Feds. Now back on line, it's been largely inert; but the return of Superman has piqued its interest, and now all hell is going to break loose?!?

[The Batman]

Not for nothing, but the title "Man of Steel" could take on a double meaning if the villain was someone like Metallo.

[Paul Dee]

Apparently the title is "The Man of Steel"

Haha, you made that up I presume?

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Haha, you made that up I presume?

Negative. There's been a rumor in which the source claims that actually "The Man Of Steel" is going to be the title, a la "The Dark Night".

[Ontir]

Superman, the Man of Steel (http://imdb.com/title/tt0770828/)!

[Paul Dee]

Negative. There's been a rumor in which the source claims that actually "The Man Of Steel" is going to be the title, a la "The Dark Night".


Wow,I just assumed because of the new Batman title that this was a joke. Interesting choice.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Wow,I just assumed because of the new Batman title that this was a joke. Interesting choice.

Yeah. I guess the head honchos at WB have a clear policy regarding the names for the movies of those franchises. Perhaps, when and if a Green Lantern movie is made, it will be called "Green Lantern: The Emerald Knight" or something.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Superman, the Man of Steel (http://imdb.com/title/tt0770828/)!

Interesting. Does this mean the name is confirmed?

[PatrickG]

Interesting. Does this mean the name is confirmed?

It's the working title.

I call it being a Brainiac-Zod team-up.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

It's the working title.

I call it being a Brainiac-Zod team-up.

OK. Absolutely great the team-up idea.