How would you end the Ultimate line?

[Alan2099]

I was reading over a few The End books and was just wondering how people would like to see the Ultimate books go out. Please no, "I wouldn't end them," posts. Let's just say you're told that the Ultimate line is ending, over finished, kaput, and you get to decide how it goes out.

What would you do?

[Expletive Deleted]

Villain dogpiles in the far future, basically.

For all the THE END books that Marvel has done for the regular MU (thus far), I can't think of one that really had an action-oriented "going out in a blaze of glory" ending.

I might let Ultimate Spider-Man die of old age surrounded by his children and grandchildren, just to give him a happy ending. But the rest'd go down fighting.

[Alan2099]

Any particular mastermind you'd want to have behind it all?

[Expletive Deleted]

If I had to have one, SHIELD. It's the element that ties the whole UU together, with the emphasis on government interest in superhumanity.

I'd rather have each title's "finale" stand independently, though. I mean, it's not as if the various MU versions have tied together.

[Jake V]

Cancel all the Marvel Universe books, making the Ultimate line the new mainstream continuity, thereby eliminating the "ultimate" line entirely.

[Expletive Deleted]

Cancel all the Marvel Universe books, making the Ultimate line the new mainstream continuity, thereby eliminating the "ultimate" line entirely.On second thought, I'd go with this idea.

[Shadow ES]

UXM - Sheild shuts down the school, X-men are disbanded
UF4 - Reed finds a way to reverse their mutations
Ultimates - No real ending, just a story that ends with everyone being reminded that the ultimates are needed, and that they'll always be around

USM- no big ending. Just have Peter get shot in the head out of nowhere.

[Exo]

Have the Punisher kill the Ultimate universe. Yeah it's been done before (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Punisher_Kills_the_Marvel_Universe) but it was also poorly written. Such a feat deserves a better script IMO.

[Alan2099]

Cancel all the Marvel Universe books, making the Ultimate line the new mainstream continuity, thereby eliminating the "ultimate" line entirely.
Didn't I say right in the first post no "I wouldn't end them" posts?

[sephirothskiller]

20 years in the future Franklin Richards' eyes snap open and he exclaims: "Holy F***! Just what was in that acid!?"

[drinkblatzbeer]

too bad they already wasted galactus...

12 issues plus x-overs into the core books for a year...
i'm talking MEGA event...

basically, earths heroes throw everything they can at him, but the powers of galactus and the silver surfer and some other heralds, are far beyond anything that can be mustered on earth...
they fight hard, but galactus ultimately barely notices...
a great show of all of your favorite characters being absolutely slaughtered...

[Locue]

If you're gonna end something, it's gotta be with a nuke. Really, it just gotta be. It's freaking classic.

But I'll go for Jake's solution as well. It's just too bad the Ultimate books are so weak right now, with the sole exception of the Ultimates, which on the other hand is ending now, and to some portion USM.

[Sorcerer Supreme]

UXM - Sheild shuts down the school, X-men are disbanded
UF4 - Reed finds a way to reverse their mutations
Ultimates - No real ending, just a story that ends with everyone being reminded that the ultimates are needed, and that they'll always be around.

I would go with this with this USM Ending:


I might let Ultimate Spider-Man die of old age surrounded by his children and grandchildren, just to give him a happy ending. But the rest'd go down fighting.

[kel25]

Well since Galactus was already used and wasted I would go with Ultimate Age of Apacalypse.

A gigantic crossover covering all titles with a few minis thrown in to show characters like Daredevil, Punisher, Moonknight, etc. In the end Apocalypse would win and most of the heroes would have died.

[90'sCartoonMan]

If I had to have one, SHIELD. It's the element that ties the whole UU together, with the emphasis on government interest in superhumanity.

I'd rather have each title's "finale" stand independently, though. I mean, it's not as if the various MU versions have tied together.

You could do both.

Actually, I'd have things go back to the Super Soldier Formula. Reed Richards finds a way to fix Ben through it. SHIELD gets ahold of it. A spy in SHIELD gives it to foreign powers, and there's some kind of reverse-power arms race to see who could depower the most powerful countries faster. It'd also work on mutants, and there'd be mutants in other countries.

Basically start it out with a common theme, and then have Ultimates, Spider-Man, X-Men, etc. all go in their own direction and give proper endings to the characters there.

Once it's all over, powers, mutants, heck, even advanced technology is all done away with, set things back to before WWII. Sorta like that old expression about not knowing what weapons World War III would be fought with but World War IV being fought with sticks and stones.

[Young Avenger]

Cancel all the Marvel Universe books, making the Ultimate line the new mainstream continuity, thereby eliminating the "ultimate" line entirely.

You are a genius. I support this plan in ending the ultimate line.

[mattx110]

spidey turns 18, joins the ultimates. finds out ben is really alive and nick fury held him this whole time to make sure pete became a hero, so pete quits. he does a bugle interview where he lets the whole thing out, and after a few months all the terribly corrupt mahinations of shield come to light, and nick retires to some island somewhere, and the ultimates are shut down. the scattered heroes might carry on, but the gov't has lost it's ability to control the people with powers.

[Enigmanaut]

The Ultimate Celestials show up, deem the Earth unworthy and wipe it out.

[Alex L]

Pretend 616 Civil War never happened; give this idea to the Ultimate universe instead.

Ends with Spider-man retiring/losing powers (Oz forumla wears off?), Fantastic Four leaving to explore the universe, Ultimates disband, SHIELD retains weapons designer Tony Stark and trainer Captain America.

[Joe Acro]

Without the protection of a true Sorceror Supreme, the Ultimate universe slowly becomes infested with mystical forces. Dr. Strange is banished to another realm to be dealt with later. Dormammu and his minions, including Ultimate Mindless Ones, Ultimate Umar, Ultimate D'Spayre, Ultimate Mordo, and Ultimate Nightmare (returning).

Thor must summon the help of his Asgardian allies.

Reed, Sue, Bruce, Tony, and Hank pool knowledge into using science to thwart this evil. They create miniature implosion devices. Once planted on the enemy, that enemy implodes into nothingness. They decide to only use this as a last resort.

Every known character on Ultimate Earth becomes involved, including the villains. The one who has the greatest amount of success is Magician. Phoenix is able to tap into her power, but even that doesn't compare. New York, Atlantis, Washington, and other places become overrun.

I don't know how the story goes entirely, but it ends with this final assault on Dormammu with Cap leading the charge. This would take place after Dormammu and his forces, unable to kill the Asgardians due to their mystical nature, send them back to Asgard and lock them there. Iron Man had been defeated at some point, with his whole armor collection destroyed and him forced to self-destruct Iron Man 6 due to the opposing forces having taken it. The whole thing ends with the heroes coming out on top, of course. But none of them retain their powers. The giant mystical wave that swept over the Earth rids the world of the X-gene, and all artificial superpowers.

There would be some sort of epilogue showing the former superheroes still trying to be heroic.

[Titanium]

Ultimate Onslaught.

Xavier infected by his touching of Gah Lak Tus' mind unlocks the evil within and the desire to destroy organic life. Xavier uses his psychic powers to force the super geniuses into building a new Gah Lak Tus body around Xavier.

Every super being on the planet joins together to stop him but ultimately everyone is taken out by the Xavier Protocols.

Ultimately it comes down to one superbeing left standing. The Hulk. And he's pissed and Xavier's mind tricks don't work on him so he can go toe to toe with Xavier inside a new form of Gah Lak Tus. Onslaught.

The resulting battle destroys the planet. But right before one being tries to stop everything and prevent Gah Lak Tus from even coming to Earth by using Reed Richards time machine. The Vision. However, he gets damaged and lands in russia.

[Siddon]

Ultimate End a Saga in 6 parts

Part 1 Galactic Storm Season 6 of the Ultimates

In the Ultimates first space adventure the new team of Captain Marvel, Scarlet With, Captain America, Hawkeye, Photon, Vision, Thor come smack dab in the middle of the Kree Skrull war.

Issue 1 Features the battle of the team versus Ronan the Accussor who kills Photon. Thor destroys the outpost of the Kree battlefront and the Skrulls come throuh the battle line.

Issue 2 The Silver Surfers join the battle against the Skrulls It is revealed that the leader of the Skrulls goes by the name Kang. Captain Marvel goes out into space to get re-enforcements.

Issue 3 Kang's forces defeat the team who get away crippled. Kang beats Thor in combat, destroy's Vision and breaks every bone in Hawkeye's body.

Issues 4-6 Captain Marvel goes on several adventures to assemble a team which features Dr. Strange from Earth, Nova a Kree Soldier who has been given the powers of the Accuser, Quesar the last of an alien race who tends to a desolute planet and finally the Drax a tribe of warriors who where created by a Vision robot to fight Galactus.

Issue 6-12 The decimated Avengers land on the Kree homeworld, while the Captain Mahr-vel team take on the forces of Kang. They beat back the Skrull forces and finally face off against Kang who informs the team that the battle has already begun on Earth. The final panel shows New York City destroyed. On Kree the new team recoups but finds out that to join the Alliance and the defense against the Skrulls Earth must be found worthy and the Kree begin the Apcaylpse.

Part 2 X-men Apcaylpse

Issue 1 - The four horseman are revealed to be sleepers in the Marvel Universe the teams are split to battle each horseman

Issues 2-4 the team of Wolverine, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Havok, Polaris and Iceman take on the first Horseman Exodus they win but Colossus dies in battle

Issues 5-6 the team of Dazzler, Beast (who was never dead), Storm, Sunspot, Angel, Xavier take on the horseman Goblin Queen who defeats the team and kills Storm, Angel and Sunspot

Issues 7-8 the team of Quicksilver Cable Cyclops Jean Gambit and Jubilee take on the Horseman Onslaught who they defeat quickly but unleashes a virus which invects Cyclops

Issue 9 the team of Madrox, Rogue, Toad, Northstar, Karma, and Emma Frost take on the final Horseman Mimic who kills the whole team

Issues 10-12 Apcaylpse the Goblin Queen and Mimic take on remaining X-men Wolverine, Havok, Polaris, Iceman, Beast, Kitty, Cyclops, Cable, Jean, Jubilee, Xavier and Quicksilver. Cyclops goes down in issue 10, Xavier in issue 11, and they win in issue 12 as the Skrull forces start blowing up chunks of the World

part 3 Spider-man: The Death of Spider-man

Its one day in New York as the city is being destoryed and Spider-man is now going through the city trying to save as many people he can. Everyone dies in end except Spider-man. We see the deaths of Moon Knight, Daredevil, the Punisher. Ultimately Spider-man kills the King Pin as he was resposible for the deaths of many of the refugees. Peter quits being Spider-man


Part 4 Ultimates Season 7 The Kree-Skrull war

Issues 1-6 is Nick Fury putting together a new Avengers team and preparing for Shield to get into the war.

Issues 7-13 the battle against the Skrulls which they do not win both Kree and Earth are destroyed

Part 5 Fantastic Four Doom

The Fanastic Four have been given a mission kill the Super Villians, assemble allies, and get the as much as the population of the World into space.

Reed and Doom have there last battle as they both die

The World is finally destoryed Spider-man returns Hulk joins the battle a million people make it to space

Part 6 Ultimates Season 9 The End

Issue 1 Is a one-shot about Sentry-One a fighter piloted by Robert Reynolds as he goes into Space and trys to kill as many Skrulls as possible. It ends with Reynolds blowing up the Skrull's planet sheilds and his death.

Issue 2 The Avengers battle the Skrull forces and seem to be winning only to be revealed that the Skrulls are also battling the home base of Earth. Most of the refugee's are dead. Nick Fury is shown dead.

Issue 3 a split off team of Wolverine and Hulk take on a Continant of Skrull fighters.... and win the issue is silent. The Human Torch eventually sets most of the world on fire.

Issue 4 Kitty Pryde starts saving people in the Sheild area it is shown that she has saved a couple hundred people. Most of the X-men die against a battle of. Its in this issue that we see the deaths of Thing and Sue Storm

Issue 5 The final battle begins with a series of Red Skrulls are revealed as the big bads. They kill all the remaining team members including Hulk and Thor. Captain America is given the power of Thor in Iron Man armor. Spider-man and Wolverine are still alive.

Issue 6 Captain America takes on the Red Skrull in the last battle Cap wins the battle and Wolverine finally dies as he is shot into space where he is torn apart. Peter and Kitty are the last heros alive and settle on a new Earth they name it after the date when the first Earth was destoryed June first two thousand and seven... 617. Kitty is telling the story 80 years in the future on her death bed to her grandchildren who all look like Peter and Kitty.

The End

[Agentum]

I think those "the end" books stinks, and Punisher kills MU sucks even more.

[Locue]

Hell no, Punisher kills the Marvel Universe was awesome. Superhero bashing at its near-finest.

[The Fury]

Ultimate The Fury/Nimrod.

Death to them all.

[Agentum]

Maybe they can do like DC to retcon punch things when it goes wrong.

Maybe it all can end with Hulk eating the other heroes that is edible and stomping the other ones flat.

The boring true ending is probably that low sales will make Marvel to cancel the titles one day.

The endings will be rushed bad endings that we will complain about forever.

[Kara Zor El]

I'd go for Reed Richards of 616 finding out that the Reed Richards of Ultimate Universe sacrificed an entire universe in destroying Ultimate Galactus. Fearing that Ultimate Reed would resort to sacrificing other universes including his own to save his own, 616 Reed creates an army of nanobots with the help of Stark, which he sends into the 616 Universe. These microscopic nanobots are designed to devour the atoms of Ultimate Universe. As the Ultimate Universe is broken down into nothing, the Ultimate Super Humans and Mutants, hero and Villain make a jump over to the 616 Universe to take it over. They capture Britain and put a force field up around it to fend off any attack. Then a war between Ultimate Britain and the rest of the World begins. The Ultimates win only to find that 616 Reed has tricked them further. For 616 Reed has duplicated the entire 616 Earth and Solar system and everyone on it within a micro universe exploding in a containment field within his laboratory. This exact duplicate, which includes dopplegangers of every life and structure etc on 616 is designed to implode within seven days, which is a day short of the Ultimate victory. At the end of their day of rest the Ultimate conquerors just have time to Sus out their mistake before they all implode with the rest of the matter into a tiny black hole that has greater gravity than any other. But this black hole then threatens to destroy the 616 Universe if the containment field breaks, so Reed has no choice but to send it into a baby Universe destroying it and thus making his crimes greater than Ultimate Reed.

[1WEBHEAD]

Give Kirkman all the Ultimate titles under his pen.:evilsmile

I'm sorry that was a low blow and uncalled for but his UXM sucks.:o *>shrugs<*

But seriously I have an idea:
Doctor Doom escapes from the Zombie universe alive and has made a vacine/medicine that makes him immune to their zombies virus. He brings the cosmic powerful zombies over to the Ultimate Universe.Marvel turns this into a Mega Ultimate Universe event.
Doom hooks up with Magneto(who has established a secret Genosha)(see the end of Magnetic North, BKV's final story on his run on UXM) and makes a deal saying "Help me and we can both share this world together." Doom treats Mags and his new BrotherHood with the vaccine.Him, Mags the new Brotherhood, and the cosmic Marvel Zombies rape the Ultimate Universe out of existence and Doom and Mags become the king of the world.They recreate everything to their likings and the cosmic zombies are later allowed to roam free to devour other worlds.

[Omega Alpha]

Ultimate X-men: Xavier and Magneto die, the team disbands. Colossus becomes a fashion designer, Jean goes nuts and kills himself, Storm is deported to Africa, Rogue get control of her powers, Wolverine goes to God knows where again, Cyke joins the Ultimates, if they're not over, if they do he goes bang Ultimate Emma:D

Ultimate Spider-man: Spider-man no more, for good. He marries Kitty and have mutant babies.

Ultimate FF: Johnny joins the Ultimates or becomes a solo super-hero, Reed and Sue get married and continue to work together, Ben is cured and goes to the army.

Ultimates: Cap. America dies of old age, Thor goes to Asgard, Stark dies after using the armor while drunk, Henry Pym retires from being a super-hero and works on research with Banner, whom finds a cure and is never the Hulk again, Wasp get her daily spankings by Pym until she drinks poison with 43 years old and leaves her 5 children behind, Nick Fury becomes president of the world.

Or Ultimate Thanos kills everybody:)

[the_dude]

i say it ends with all the 616 characters awaking up from a dream....

[Froggy]

Ultimate End a Saga in 6 parts

Part 1 Galactic Storm Season 6 of the Ultimates

In the Ultimates first space adventure the new team of Captain Marvel, Scarlet With, Captain America, Hawkeye, Photon, Vision, Thor come smack dab in the middle of the Kree Skrull war.

Issue 1 Features the battle of the team versus Ronan the Accussor who kills Photon. Thor destroys the outpost of the Kree battlefront and the Skrulls come throuh the battle line.

Issue 2 The Silver Surfers join the battle against the Skrulls It is revealed that the leader of the Skrulls goes by the name Kang. Captain Marvel goes out into space to get re-enforcements.

Issue 3 Kang's forces defeat the team who get away crippled. Kang beats Thor in combat, destroy's Vision and breaks every bone in Hawkeye's body.

Issues 4-6 Captain Marvel goes on several adventures to assemble a team which features Dr. Strange from Earth, Nova a Kree Soldier who has been given the powers of the Accuser, Quesar the last of an alien race who tends to a desolute planet and finally the Drax a tribe of warriors who where created by a Vision robot to fight Galactus.

Issue 6-12 The decimated Avengers land on the Kree homeworld, while the Captain Mahr-vel team take on the forces of Kang. They beat back the Skrull forces and finally face off against Kang who informs the team that the battle has already begun on Earth. The final panel shows New York City destroyed. On Kree the new team recoups but finds out that to join the Alliance and the defense against the Skrulls Earth must be found worthy and the Kree begin the Apcaylpse.

Part 2 X-men Apcaylpse

Issue 1 - The four horseman are revealed to be sleepers in the Marvel Universe the teams are split to battle each horseman

Issues 2-4 the team of Wolverine, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Havok, Polaris and Iceman take on the first Horseman Exodus they win but Colossus dies in battle

Issues 5-6 the team of Dazzler, Beast (who was never dead), Storm, Sunspot, Angel, Xavier take on the horseman Goblin Queen who defeats the team and kills Storm, Angel and Sunspot

Issues 7-8 the team of Quicksilver Cable Cyclops Jean Gambit and Jubilee take on the Horseman Onslaught who they defeat quickly but unleashes a virus which invects Cyclops

Issue 9 the team of Madrox, Rogue, Toad, Northstar, Karma, and Emma Frost take on the final Horseman Mimic who kills the whole team

Issues 10-12 Apcaylpse the Goblin Queen and Mimic take on remaining X-men Wolverine, Havok, Polaris, Iceman, Beast, Kitty, Cyclops, Cable, Jean, Jubilee, Xavier and Quicksilver. Cyclops goes down in issue 10, Xavier in issue 11, and they win in issue 12 as the Skrull forces start blowing up chunks of the World

part 3 Spider-man: The Death of Spider-man

Its one day in New York as the city is being destoryed and Spider-man is now going through the city trying to save as many people he can. Everyone dies in end except Spider-man. We see the deaths of Moon Knight, Daredevil, the Punisher. Ultimately Spider-man kills the King Pin as he was resposible for the deaths of many of the refugees. Peter quits being Spider-man


Part 4 Ultimates Season 7 The Kree-Skrull war

Issues 1-6 is Nick Fury putting together a new Avengers team and preparing for Shield to get into the war.

Issues 7-13 the battle against the Skrulls which they do not win both Kree and Earth are destroyed

Part 5 Fantastic Four Doom

The Fanastic Four have been given a mission kill the Super Villians, assemble allies, and get the as much as the population of the World into space.

Reed and Doom have there last battle as they both die

The World is finally destoryed Spider-man returns Hulk joins the battle a million people make it to space

Part 6 Ultimates Season 9 The End

Issue 1 Is a one-shot about Sentry-One a fighter piloted by Robert Reynolds as he goes into Space and trys to kill as many Skrulls as possible. It ends with Reynolds blowing up the Skrull's planet sheilds and his death.

Issue 2 The Avengers battle the Skrull forces and seem to be winning only to be revealed that the Skrulls are also battling the home base of Earth. Most of the refugee's are dead. Nick Fury is shown dead.

Issue 3 a split off team of Wolverine and Hulk take on a Continant of Skrull fighters.... and win the issue is silent. The Human Torch eventually sets most of the world on fire.

Issue 4 Kitty Pryde starts saving people in the Sheild area it is shown that she has saved a couple hundred people. Most of the X-men die against a battle of. Its in this issue that we see the deaths of Thing and Sue Storm

Issue 5 The final battle begins with a series of Red Skrulls are revealed as the big bads. They kill all the remaining team members including Hulk and Thor. Captain America is given the power of Thor in Iron Man armor. Spider-man and Wolverine are still alive.

Issue 6 Captain America takes on the Red Skrull in the last battle Cap wins the battle and Wolverine finally dies as he is shot into space where he is torn apart. Peter and Kitty are the last heros alive and settle on a new Earth they name it after the date when the first Earth was destoryed June first two thousand and seven... 617. Kitty is telling the story 80 years in the future on her death bed to her grandchildren who all look like Peter and Kitty.

The End


The end is pretty cool IMO

mine would be

Ultimates: have a last hurrah against a big grouop of villains, sort of like a new age liberators led by kang whos some superarmoed nutso (real name Zarrko) with tech taht he used to power up his allies and take on the ultimates to destroy them. he loses and the ultimates fight his benefactors: the Kree

Ultimate FF: Thanos and the Ultimate Eternals get in a cosmic war, and the FF are caught in the crossfire and reveal the ult eternals existence to the world

Ult X Men: Prof X Dies as he sacrificese himself for magneto against a foe like apocalypse, who after the xmen defeat him and his horsemen (people like POlaris, havok, and two other mystery or new hcaracters) cyclops, shattered from the emotional shock of the fight and losing his "Father figure" disbands the xmen. they come back ten years later to fight against the new sentinel directive led by a man named Bastion and his ultimate sentinel: Nimrod

Ult spiderman: Peter grows up, and has kids, and as an old man tells his kids of the "age of heroes" and the legendary spiderman, and how the age of heroes ended not with the heroes fighting some major villain, but because of a war


you could have the ultimates fight this "genetic war" Theyve been hinting at

[rwsmith]

Cancel all the Marvel Universe books, making the Ultimate line the new mainstream continuity, thereby eliminating the "ultimate" line entirely.

I wouldn't cancel the regular Marvel U books, but I would have Civil War rip everything apart until Reed Richards finally tries to find a way to put everything right again. He realizes that he can't simply go back in time and stop Stamford from happening without knowing the consequences of those actions, so instead he tries to find another dimension where Stamford didn't happen so that he'll know the gravity of his possibly interfering with the time-stream in the 616 Marvel U.

In doing so, he stumbles upon a universe/dimension that is unique in all of the multiverse in that it is chronilogically out of synch with the rest of the multiverse (i.e., everything happened later there). He and the rest of the FF are still teenagers in the present day, as are Spider-man and the X-men. Even the "Avengers" here are younger than their Avengers counterparts in the 616 (though not as significantly so). Obviously he has found the Ultimate Marvel Universe.

Because of this anomaly, Reed cannot simply cross into this dimension like he would any other. Rather, he actually has to travel to the end of the Negative Zone in order to reach it (as the Negative Zone exists pretty much outside of time, or at least at a point where it has slowed down considerably). Naturally, Reed is incredibly curious about this place, and begins to believe that it might be the key to saving the 616 Marvel U. So he travels through the N-Zone by himself, and when he reaches the border of his universe and the Ulti-verse, he realizes that something is very wrong. Someone is trying to enter the Negative Zone from the other side (unbeknownst to him it is his Ultimate counterpart and Ultimate Sue, Johnny, Ben and Doom on their first foray into the Zone).

616 Reed is then bombarded by the same incredible forces that end up turning them into the Fantastic Four, which in turns causes him to mutate into the Ultimate version of Man-Thing and become the Ultimate Universe's "nexus of all realities." This makes Man-Thing an incredibly tragic figure, because he is actually the only link to the original Marvel Universe left. And because he is the nexus of all realities, he can see what becomes of the 616 in his absence.

I would have the last issue of this series ("Ultimate Crisis," perhaps?) close with Reed/Man-Thing shedding a single tear, as you see the destruction of the entire 616 Planet Earth (by what appears to be nuclear holocaust) reflected in his eyes.

That month, all of the Ultimate titles and the 616 ones would end, only to be relaunched that next month as a single, streamlined Marvel Universe featuring the Ultimate versions of the characters.

There would be the Ultimates, 2 Spider-man books, 2 X-men books (one focused on the younger group and without Wolverine in it), a Wolverine solo book, a Fantastic Four book, and a Marvel Knights book (featuring Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Dr. Strange, etc.; with rotating creative teams doing different arcs focused on different characters). This would make for about 8 ongoing monthly titles. And obviously there would also be several limited series going on where specific creative teams could come in and tell a specific story (i.e., Ultimate Gah Lak Tus and Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine).

At any rate, that's how I'd "end" the Ultimate line.

[Joe Acro]

That whole story would imply that the Ultimate universe doesn't have its own alternate realities and that the Negative Zone and N-Zone are the same thing.

[rwsmith]

No it wouldn't. It just means that it's unique and that it's more difficult to cross-into other realities from there. Obviously it can be done, though, as Ultimate Reed has proven on multiple occasions.

As for the Negative Zone and the N-Zone being the same thing, think of them both as kind of a limbo type environment where the laws of physics and even space sort of begin to break down. So the Negative Zone kind of bleeds into the Ultimate Universe's N-Zone in certain places.

I could make it work, I tell ya.;)

[King Alpha]

My idea's were said already. Hulk eats everybody, and Thanos kills everybody.

It's either Hulk get's crazy (and GREEN) and he's just mad with rage eating all that comes into contact with him. Then they decide to drop a bomb on him. He survives, absorbing all the radiation like the Maestro and becomes more pissed and powerful. And everyone dies from radiation from his body.

Or They have a story about Ultimate Thanos collecting the Infinity Gems. Then he kills all heroes who can't even touch Thanos.

But honestly, if Marvel were to end the Ultimate Universe, it will involve the mainstream universe too. Maybe because of Thanos and the Infinity Gems causing the worlds to colide. And in the end, the Ultimate Universe ends.

[G. Wayne]

Say that Ultimate Reed builds a dimensional portal to the Supreme Power universe. A Squadron Supreme strike force is sent to Ultimate land to investigate. Cue the mandatory initial misunderstanding battles with the Squadron and the heroes of the Ultimare Universe. Misunderstandings are cleared and laughs are had. All seems well.

Then Hyperion meets up with Nick Fury. Fury takes him aside and pulls his "work with us" b.s.

Hyperion tells him he'll get back to him. Hyperion proceeds to track down Emil Burbank to initiate the Ultimate Protocols, believing that SHEILD is his worst government control nightmare come true. After the major threats are lethally disabled, the full Squadron lay waste to the rest of the planet.



(Meant in humor, mostly, other than Kirkman I have nothing against the Ultimate U.)

[spideyrules99]

A huge battle takes place. Aftrer it is over the heroes are shaken to thier very core.
The next panel shows the out side of a building. W epan in to see a child sitting there. A doctor removes something from his hand and places it on his desk. It is a snowglobe.

Turns out the Whole Ult Marvel world takes place in the mind of a little autistic child.

Hey it worked n tv.

[Kara Zor El]

A huge battle takes place. Aftrer it is over the heroes are shaken to thier very core.
The next panel shows the out side of a building. W epan in to see a child sitting there. A doctor removes something from his hand and places it on his desk. It is a snowglobe.

Turns out the Whole Ult Marvel world takes place in the mind of a little autistic child.

Hey it worked n tv.

That's a great idea. But the kid needs to break the snowglobe. And the Ultimate U need to realize that they are in a snowglobe. They try and contact the kid and this cures the kid of his autism. The shock of the cure makes him drop the globe and destroys the Universe within.

[Enigmanaut]

A huge battle takes place. Aftrer it is over the heroes are shaken to thier very core.
The next panel shows the out side of a building. W epan in to see a child sitting there. A doctor removes something from his hand and places it on his desk. It is a snowglobe.

Turns out the Whole Ult Marvel world takes place in the mind of a little autistic child.

Hey it worked n tv.

Or instead of the autistic kid, it's a dream that Stan Lee is having. He wakes up and says "Woah. No more chili-dogs before bed."

[Mister Mets]

One big twelve issue mini series with an a-list creative team.
Perhaps Millar & Bagley.

It shouldn't be done for another few years. There should also be years of build-up to the finale.

And there should probably be tie-in mini series, and and some tie-ins, such as a final Ultimate Spider-man storyline.

And maybe a ten years later epilogue mini series/ project, as it's something that can't be done in the regular MU.

They still have at least a decade left.

[^o^CORVUS^o^]

Easy.

Ultimate Infinity Gauntlet :D

[saintsaucey]

Any particular mastermind you'd want to have behind it all?


Ultimate Shocker. I'll use my temporary ending for the 616 universe to end the ultimate universe. though i really don't want it to end so i would probably have bruce banner survive and save the day without anyone knowing the day was almost ruined.

since i can't find the thread to link to the basic premis is this. shocker taps into some crono based power source and when it activates all ultimate comics end in there tracks. destroying the universe. except since the hulk is the strongest there is he survives and he and bruce banner figure out a way to bring everything back

[Magneto Rocks]

Have THe Ultimates pushed over the brink and go too far so that the other Ultimate Heroes unite against them. There is an Ultimate Civil War- the UXm and the UFF plus UDD etc attack the Triskelion

Nick Fury finds the Ultimate X-Men and UFF are breaking through in battle so he decides to activate a new weapon which will ensure victory. The instant before he pushes the button, USM, who has snuck into the Triskelion, socks him right in the face.(That was needed!)

Spidey is confronted by Ultimate Cap and they fight. Fury recvoers and seeing that they are losing, opens all the cells in the Triskelion to take the enemies down with them. There's an enormous, confused battle in which most heroes die in various ways. In the end, when it seems certain the Ultimates will lose, Fury detonates a bomb which will destroy them all, just so that he doesn't have to see all he worked for be rippd to shreds.

At the very end, the sad figure of Thor floats morosely over the shattered ruins of the Triskelion.

OR something like that ;)

[J.Strange]

Lets see... Doctor Doom becomes curious of the Void. So he creates an N-zone prison but specialy designed for The Sentry, and somehow transports The Sentry there. But even Doom does not know how much power the Void has. Sentry enters the N-zone, and smiles... The Void pops out, and the Void, gathers enough energy to bypass Doom's Defenses and/or ways of escaping and kills Doom(Doom, Doombot, who cares). A month later, Void has completely taken over the N-Zone and its power, and discards of Robert(Sentry), the Void has bypassed Sentry's powers and so Robert is now no longer, He finds a warp hole in the N-zone that reappears around earth(Doom destroyed his means of getting back as he reliazed what was happening). Void comes out, and enslaves all of earth and kills anyone who defies him. His main purpose then broadens, and he makes an army to enslave as many universes as he can! WOO HOO

[mcgaffer]

I would have it revealed that the Ultimate Universe is a creation of 616's Grandmaster. He made a bet with Thanos to recreate earth's heros. The Grandmaster has lost control of the Ultimate universe due to 616 Loki trying to corrupt Ultimate Thor. Due to the Grandmasters lack of control over his creation Mephisto manages to sneak into the Ultimate universe.

Mephisto manages to corrupt most of Ultimate earth leaving just a handful of heros who resisted his temptations. It would be Spider-Man, Captain America, Thor, Nightcrawler, Falcon, Phoenix, Iceman, Invisible Woman, Mr. Fantastic and the Thing. All the other heros have given into the corruption.

Mephisto finds there isn't much life in this universe due to it being newborn. Gah Lak Tus was a concept of Thanos to kill off the Ultimate earth when the bet was over. Because of this Mephisto plans to reduce the universe to energy and consume it.

He opens up a portal to 616 earth and send the corrupted heros through to pave the way for his billions of corrupted slaves. The free heros of Ultimate earth try to stop this by attacking Mephisto. Most of them are slaughtered but not before Phoenix taps into all the power she can and opens up her own portal sending Captain America, Thing and Iceman (the nearest ones she could grab) to 616 earth to warn them.

Thor sacrifices his life in a tremendous battle to protect Phoenix while she wakes up the corrupted heros, she can't wake all of them up though. Mephisto has already began the spell to break down the universe and it can't be stopped says Strange. Mephisto opens the portal and prepares to send his mass army over.

The newly awoken heros do battle with those that are still corrupted while Phoenix and Strange try to stop Mephisto.

Some corrupted heros actually make it through the portal. Hulk, Hawkeye and Shadowcat. Strange is killed by Mephisto while gloating that this is exactly what he will do with the real Strange. He then turns on Phoenix saying that as the embodiment of life he has always wanted to do this to a Phoenix. He kills Phoenix but not before she see's the truth behind herself and the Ultimate universe. It was created around her as a phoenix had to be there for life to exist. She closes her eyes as she dies concentrating on the noblest life in this universe that she helped create.

Most of the heros and corrupted heros are dead and the world is now breaking up around them. Mephisto can't get his army through and before his spell consumes him as well absorbs as much of the universe as he can and steps towards the portal.

Just as he is about to step through a bloodied hand grasps his ankle, its Spider-Man who had earlier been killed in the uncorrupted heros assault on Mephisto. Spider-Man is glowing with the Phoenix Force as Jean had willed it into him as she resurrected him. He holds Mephisto down as his spell consumes them both thus destroying the Ultimate universe to the last atom.

But there have been survivors Captain America, Thing and Iceman are on 616 earth having been sent there by Phoenix, unfortunately so is the corrupted Hulk, Hawkeye and Shadowcat.

[desanth]

USM: Peter gets kills by sasquatch MJ; U Kaine takes over his old life

UXM: Xavier dies; everyone realizes they've been under his mind control all along and disband

UFF: Everyone gets cured, except Doom

Ultimates: SHIELD gets shut down; U Cap becomes an abusive drunk like Pym, Thor goes and joins some peace stuff, Wasp gets abused by Cap or Pym, Stark joins AA, Hawkeye gets Fury to clone his family like he did to USM

Favorite endings I've read so far, I liked the autistic snowglobe kid one, that's funny.
As for my favorite USM ending I've read so far, him getting shot in the face from out of nowhere was funniest.

[Sam T.]

I would like to see the Ultimate line end with a big nuclear bomb!!:D