is punisher MAX good?

[Ullar]

im 13 and am dying 2 read this so were should i start?

[Jeff-E]

Is the title good, Yes. However you are 13 and are too young.

[Ullar]

whattya mena 2 young. it can't be blooder than dawn of the dead or scareface

[CaptainAwesome]

whattya mena 2 young. it can't be blooder than dawn of the dead or scareface
Its not really about the amount of blood and gore in the story, its just about the story elements. Now, Im not going to tell you that you shouldnt read it because you are too young, but I am going to say that because of your age you probably (and this is just a general opinion about people that are thirteen, not my opinion of you) wouldnt really understand what makes the book good. Its not the excessive violence and brutality, its really the effects of those things on society. Though, if you want to spend your money on it I'm not going to stop you.

[Generic Eric]

While I enjoy Punisher Max, I cannot recomend it to you. Because I would'nt give this book to any 13 year old that I've known over the years. This story is much more than just a good action movie in comic form. I don't personally think the themes and human emotions dealt with would be right for your age group. It's kind of hard to get this series as being more than just a really brutal crime drama without much perspective.


PS. if you are going to get the series any way the tpb volumes are numbered 1-6 and are best read in order. The comic series collected is Punisher MAx and is up to issue #39.

Oddly enough I'd recomend almost every other Punisher comic published. Particalarly the tpb Welcome Back Frank.

[redlantern2051]

It IS a good book, although I am getting tired of it, and want a change back to a slightly more "human" Frank. 13? Wouldn't worry me mate, I don't know the laws, it has a lot of swearing, and I guess some pretty graphic violence, but I daresay you have seen far worse. I'm a huge Pun fan, and Ennis does write him very well. There is a new book coming, "Punisher: War Journal" which sets him back in the regular MU, and I think this will have plenty of crossovers, which the MAX title doesn't have, apart from a *very occasional* reference to Nick Fury.

[Angel of Death]

I highly doubt anything a 13 year old reads in MAX Punisher will be news to him.

[Ullar]

yeah im planing on getting war journal fer CW but if it ends up sucking ill drop it after the crossover.

[brundlefly]

There is a new book coming, "Punisher: War Journal" which sets him back in the regular MU, and I think this will have plenty of crossovers, which the MAX title doesn't have, apart from a *very occasional* reference to Nick Fury.

That's what I enjoy about the Punisher MAX book. I think Punny works better in the MAX "real" world setting he's in of organized crime, mercenaries, corrupt police and military, etc. (i.e. no magic or superheroes), as opposed to this notion that he's supposedly a deadly threat to the 616 Marvel supervillain community (most of whom could dispatch him with minimal effort). The lack of gratuitous crossover involvement from Spidey, Hulk, Daredevil, Logan, etc. (with, as you said, the occasional pop-in from the likes of Nick Fury or SHIELD being the exception) helps to create a smaller, more realistic world for Punisher to have his ultraviolent adventures in without being overshadowed by Civil War or an alien invasion or whatever. I like Ennis' MAX work with Frank much better than the idea of him randomly teaming up with, say, Spidey, Wolverine, and Moon Knight to go take on HYDRA or Skrulls or a bunch of supervillains in regular 616 Marvel universe, which takes him out of his natural element, in my opinion.

[Slade.]

Yes it's good and unless you're a sheltered little 13 year old (like if you go to jesus camp or some **** lmao) cut off from what most kids do and see these days, you can handle what's in the book.

[Ullar]

Yes it's good and unless you're a sheltered little 13 year old (like if you go to jesus camp or some **** lmao) cut off from what most kids do and see these days, you can handle what's in the book.
im the oposite of that

[Lance]

This story is much more than just a good action movie in comic form. I don't personally think the themes and human emotions dealt with would be right for your age group. It's kind of hard to get this series as being more than just a really brutal crime drama without much perspective.

Oddly enough I'd recomend almost every other Punisher comic published. Particalarly the tpb Welcome Back Frank.

Gotta agree with you there, Eric.

Marvel Knights would be a better choice. Cuts the violence with some humor.

or...

I'd recommend Hitman for you, Ullar.

[Ullar]

hitman? whats that?

[Lance]

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n5/n27941.jpg

It's an earlier book, by the author of Punisher MAX.

Here's a breakdown on the series,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitman_(comics)

There's five trades:
Vol. 1: Hitman
Vol. 2: 10,000 Bullets
Vol. 3: Local Heroes
Vol. 4: Ace of Killers
Vol. 5: Who Dares Wins

You'd have to collect the other 33 issues, but they're well worth it.

[John Doe Jnr]

As a fellow young teenager and having both read a little bit of Punisher MAX and Hitman, Punisher MAX seemed more "cool" to me.

[Ullar]

both sound awesome gwad i can't wait 2 read em!

[Gargus]

If all you want is senseless excuses for alot of violence, cursing, and gore with paper thin stories that law and order wouldnt even bother with then I guess you might like punisher maxx.

Personally me though Id rather read the marvel edge punisher to this garth ennis stuff. Atleast he didnt walk around in the same coat with a frown constantly on his face killing cardboard cutout bad guys. He barely even speaks anymore, the terminator is more of a human than frank is.

Alot of bad words and violence dont make anything good to me, atleast when thats all it has to go on. I mean really how far does ennis have to sink to get sales? After the whole flashback by this mob guy of him being a young boy having incest with his aunt while was screaming "f*** aunty mo!" for like 13 frames made me decide the plots werent going to get much better and they havent.

The punisher is just a emotionless robot now thats just a vehicle for sadistic acts of violence. It costs to much to buy a comic to read about a guy getting gang raped by some mexican gangsters.

[Slade.]

Ignore the guy above me :D

And Punisher > Hitman

Jea I said it

[Major Danger]

I started to read Barracuda and dropped it after two issues. The language and sex was too much. Now don't think I'm a prude cos I loved Sin City. But I thought the Punisher was just shock for shocks sake and no real story enhancement to it that they hadn't done with the original PG13 Punisher.

[Slade.]

Why is it so shocking?

[Jeff-E]

I started to read Barracuda and dropped it after two issues. The language and sex was too much. Now don't think I'm a prude cos I loved Sin City. But I thought the Punisher was just shock for shocks sake and no real story enhancement to it that they hadn't done with the original PG13 Punisher.

I'm gonna partially agree with the Maj. here. Sometimes it does feel like Ennis is throwing in shock for the sake of shock value, which he does do.... alot. What I personally think about the book is alot of times it's like reading an episode of The Sopranos, especially the early story arcs.

[brundlefly]

I started to read Barracuda and dropped it after two issues. The language and sex was too much. Now don't think I'm a prude cos I loved Sin City. But I thought the Punisher was just shock for shocks sake and no real story enhancement to it that they hadn't done with the original PG13 Punisher.

I was underwhelmed by Barracuda as well and agree that it seemed a little gratuitous in places. The earlier story arcs and the current one (Man of Stone) are better, stronger stories that rely less on shocking language and sexual content.

[Siddon]

I like it though I would never pay for it.... Its the punisher fer christ sakes.

[Ullar]

i keep hearing this whole **** aunty mo over and over and whats the big deal? the guy is crap he gets killed end of story god its not that shocking i could coem up with 10 times worse right now

[redlantern2051]

i keep hearing this whole **** aunty mo over and over and whats the big deal? the guy is crap he gets killed end of story god its not that shocking i could coem up with 10 times worse right now


*spoliers*







I like that story tho. That's the guy who goes after Castle's family graves, right? And when Frank kills him, he guts him or something, and then he's like "In the end, it just means a little more pain" as to how he kills him. I'm not a violent person, but I kinda like how hardcore Frank gets.

Look its a good read mate, I reckon you should pick it up. When I was 13 I was reading some pretty spun out stuff. Just don't take it to the streets! lol

[Ullar]

yeah i just gotta convivnce my mom MAX si the same as MK. sigh and my comic shop wont sell it 2 me w/o adult permission

[filthysize]

"my comic shop wont sell it 2 me w/o adult permission"

Good.

[Johhny Blame]

Skip Punisher and get Preacher instead. It's by the same writer, has no superheroes, and is ten times better! It's the masterpiece of Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon...

[Ullar]

but i like superheroes

ill look into it