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Hush Little Batman
10-18-2006, 10:13 AM
Golden Age
Silver Age
1960's series (Adam West)
Modern Age (Post-COIE, aka Miller's Dark Knight)
Batman:TAS - JLU (aka Timm-verse)
The Batman (2004-current kids' WB show)
Batman (Burton/Keaton)
Batman Forever (Schumacher/Kilmer)
Batman & Robin (Schumacher/Clooney)
Batman Begins (Nolan/Bale)
EDIT: I tried to make this topic a poll and it didn't work! Can a mod please do it for me?
Gaspard
10-18-2006, 11:01 AM
Miller's Dark Knight from that list.
Senior Partner
10-18-2006, 11:13 AM
To this day I have yet to see a better take on Batman then Mask of the Phantasm. TAS.
Slam_Bradley
10-18-2006, 11:14 AM
Bronze Age. O'Neil & Adams. Englehart & Rogers. Don Newton & Gene Colan.
Young Avenger
10-18-2006, 11:54 AM
JLU Batman.
Gary Joyce
10-18-2006, 12:06 PM
Batman - TAS for me.
Kevin Conroy is the best batman ever IMO.
EDIT: I tried to make this topic a poll and it didn't work! Can a mod please do it for me?
All set.
And mine is the Batman Animated Series one.
For me, that is the most definitive portrayal of both Batman and Bruce Wayne.
The Batman
10-18-2006, 12:13 PM
I voted for the TAS/JLU Timmverse Batman because it took many of the best elements of the Post-Crisis Miller Batman but does not have all the excesses and just plain bad stories that have been attatched to that version of Batman over the last 20 years. If I could've voted for both, or just voted for the Batman of Year One and Dark Knight Returns and JLA I'd have done that.
Candyland_Assassin
10-18-2006, 12:17 PM
Animated Series
Lorendiac
10-18-2006, 02:24 PM
Bronze Age. O'Neil & Adams. Englehart & Rogers. Don Newton & Gene Colan.
I am also partial to Batman as he was handled by certain writers around the 70s and the early 80s in particular, what Slam calls the Bronze Age Batman, and what I might alternately call "Batman in the years immediately before Crisis." A very different kettle of fish from the Batman of the "Silver Age," late 50s and 60s era.
Of the live-action movies, my favorite is the "Batman Forever" version.
Hush Little Batman
10-18-2006, 02:46 PM
All set.
Thank you! :)
I wish I could've given you guys more poll choices, but it's limited to 10 and I tried to include as many different interpretations as possible.
phantom1592
10-18-2006, 03:02 PM
I am also partial to Batman as he was handled by certain writers around the 70s and the early 80s in particular, what Slam calls the Bronze Age Batman, and what I might alternately call "Batman in the years immediately before Crisis." A very different kettle of fish from the Batman of the "Silver Age," late 50s and 60s era.
Of the live-action movies, my favorite is the "Batman Forever" version.
Yeah there needed to be another choice inbetween Modern and Silver. I voted Silver since that was the costume and attitude "Pre-Miller", though it would actually be closer to modern
muimi
10-18-2006, 04:55 PM
TAS -- I love that portrayal of Batman more than any other. GO KEVIN CONROY!! Though Bale's portrayal is right up there too.
The one we see in Batman The Animated Series... but maybe not the Batman we saw in JLU? I'm not sure I agree with how they depict him working with others. Aside from that tough.
And I have a huge love for the Bronze Age tales, but TAS had to top them. How could it not, with an older and wiser Denny O'Neil coming back and writing the first meeting between Batman and Ra's for TAS? I loved Denny's first crack at that story, but the version that ended up on TV was probably the best thing in the entire show.
I will say I think they did the Joker's origin badly though. I have a few niggles about the show, but that was an important thing they got wrong. Better to have not touched on it at all than to make him a real piece of scum even before the chemical dip.
The Shadow
10-18-2006, 10:03 PM
Bronze Age. O'Neil & Adams. Englehart & Rogers. Don Newton & Gene Colan.
Same here!
Punch
10-18-2006, 10:07 PM
from that list Miller, but my ideal is Mazzuchelli's year One Batman
nuclearman
10-18-2006, 10:34 PM
On that list Batman Begins is the best batman imo.
a-spidey
10-19-2006, 12:11 AM
On that list Batman Begins is the best batman imo.
i second that. was my choice too :D
stillanerd
10-19-2006, 12:24 AM
I do believe that the animated series had the best depiction of Batman, probably because it combined the style of the Golden Age, the modern take of Frank Miller, and the personality (and in some cases stories) from Denny O'Neil's run. After that, it's a mix between Batman Begins, Frank Miller's, especially Year One, the Denny O'Neil era, and Steve Englehart's take on the character.
joe bloke
10-19-2006, 04:08 AM
I think Carmine Infantino's ( 1960's ) Batman is probably my own personal definitive take on the character, but, if I had to plump for one from the list I'd go with Batman the animated series.
TheTen-EyedMan
10-19-2006, 05:23 AM
From 1978 to 1983...Batman was at it's zenith for me. It's never been that great again.
Gerry Conway, Marv Wolfman, the last great roar of Denny O'Neil.
Art by Klaus Janson, Gene the Dean Colan and of course...Mr. Newton.
Jmacq1
10-19-2006, 05:27 AM
I'm throwing my vote in for the 70's-early 80's Batman as well. Out of the "Adam West" era but prior to "Dark Knight" era (As Grant Morrison would put it, the "Neal Adams hairy-chested love god Batman". But as someone else pointed out, the closest thing on the list to that interpretation of Batman is TAS Batman.
Agentum
10-19-2006, 05:37 AM
Batman TAS for me, Batman is a comic character so i think he is working better as a cartoon than live action, and the portaying is very good from the voice to the personality of Batman and Wayne, i like that he changes when he put on his mask.
But O'neil/Adams Batman is cool and i can enjoy the post TDKSB Batman too, i have nothing against him being a dick soetimes as long it is not the whole time as it was before this last crisis.
My favorite hate object is the current The Batman show that has it all wrong from bottom up, i can't even laugh at it, i cry.
genesis
10-19-2006, 06:53 AM
I have to go away from the main stream and say Keaton's batman from the first two movies. He seemed to have the best batman to me. I mean he captured the elegance of Bruce Wayne while also getting at the insanity that Batman has. Or maybe because it was the first Batman interpretation I saw as a kid that has stuck with me.
Hellcow
10-19-2006, 07:30 AM
I'm yet to write it....
TheTen-EyedMan
10-19-2006, 07:31 AM
I'm yet to write it....
Ego is not a dirty word.
I like your Chutzpah.
I feel the same way.
TAS -- I love that portrayal of Batman more than any other. GO KEVIN CONROY!! Though Bale's portrayal is right up there too.
Seconded!!! Bale portrayal of Bruce Wayne/Batman was exceelent, and is the live action version of Batman. But Conroy is the goddamn BATMAN!!
King Krypton
10-19-2006, 11:21 AM
Bronze Age. O'Neil & Adams. Englehart & Rogers. Don Newton & Gene Colan.
Tie between that and the Golden Age for me.
The Batman
10-19-2006, 11:34 AM
I have to go away from the main stream and say Keaton's batman from the first two movies. He seemed to have the best batman to me. I mean he captured the elegance of Bruce Wayne while also getting at the insanity that Batman has. Or maybe because it was the first Batman interpretation I saw as a kid that has stuck with me.
I watched Tim Burton's first Batman film this past weekend and I've got to agree with you. Burton and Keaton did a great job with Batman. They gave us a Batman who was clearly disturbed by what had happened to him but not so much so that he was psychotic or an unlikable jerkass. Their Batman was as cerebral as much as he was a fighter and I really appreciated that. Sure the fight scenes weren't the best and Micheal Keaton was somewhat limited by the suit but I don't believe that it was even remotely as bad as some people make it out to be. For me the biggest problem was Batman's willingness to take lives.
http://www.hboasia.com/images/posters/378x195/batman.jpg
http://www.batmanmovieonline.com/behindthescenes/photos/ritts11.jpg
http://www.batmanmovieonline.com/topps/1113.jpg
Kara Zor El
10-19-2006, 01:18 PM
Modern Age. I love the Animated series to bits and back but Batman is a comic strip and my favourite Batman comics are post Crisis.
Outside of Comics B:TAS.
Kara Zor El
10-19-2006, 01:18 PM
Modern Age. I love the Animated series to bits and back but Batman is a comic strip and my favourite Batman comics are post Crisis.
Outside of Comics B:TAS.
cactusmaac
10-19-2006, 01:26 PM
Grant\Breyfogle's Batman.
Scary but compassionate. Effective but not superhuman.
Sparda
10-19-2006, 04:22 PM
Everytime I read a batman comic, I always imagine his voice to be exactly like his voice actor from TAS. That goes for the other casts. To me the DKR and Year one batman is a definite batman for me and that goes for the TAS as well.
Krypton King
10-27-2006, 05:31 PM
Englehart/ Rogers for me with the 1990s animated series as the runner up
Predator117
10-27-2006, 06:00 PM
Batman Begins. with the Batmobile from the first two movies, and some other gadgets from the comics. ;)
joe bloke
11-10-2006, 01:36 PM
It's a generational thing, isn't it? I know a number of younger guys - well, younger than me, at least - who can't stand anything pre-Miller. Me, I'm hard pressed to get really blown away by anything post-Miller, which is not to say that there hasn't been anything great in the last twenty odd years; far from it, there's been some fantastic stuff, REALLY fantastic stuff, but I always find myself gravitating back towards the stuff that I read when I was growing up and I first fell in love with the character. DC used to release a LOT of Golden Age reprints when I was a kid, and they were what first sold me on Batman. I love those comics, still. Like I said earlier, Carmine Infantino's run in the 'sixties was probably me all-time high, but, then. there was the Neal Adams stuff, and the Marshall Rogers stuff. . .
Thank God for the cartoons, man.
Stranger With Candy
11-10-2006, 01:44 PM
the animated series.:)
off topic but: does annyone knows if you can buy DVD box sets of that show?
Lorendiac
11-10-2006, 02:03 PM
the animated series.:)
off topic but: does annyone knows if you can buy DVD box sets of that show?
There's been more than one animated series starring Batman, so I'm not absolutely sure which one you mean. But I went to Amazon.com and poked around and found this link, with this text attached to it:
Our full selection of Batman DVDs (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/468062/qid=sr=53-1/qid=1163196056/ref=tr_81951/103-4673510-6215057)
That ought to give you the full list of what Batman-related material (seasons of different shows, movies, etc.) has already been released on DVD at one time or another! :)
phantom1592
11-10-2006, 02:04 PM
the animated series.:)
off topic but: does annyone knows if you can buy DVD box sets of that show?
Yep. I think they have four boxed sets out for it. Through Vol 4 if I'm not mistaken.
Not as good as I remember. Something about too much crammed into a 20-30 minute plot to get any depth.
Stranger With Candy
11-10-2006, 02:48 PM
thanks gus. i found it here. (http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Animated-Volumes-Classic-Collection/dp/B000B7QCHM/sr=1-28/qid=1163198527/ref=sr_1_28/104-6614225-0068709?ie=UTF8&s=dvd) i will be getting that box set!
phantom1592
11-10-2006, 02:52 PM
thanks gus. i found it here. (http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Animated-Volumes-Classic-Collection/dp/B000B7QCHM/sr=1-28/qid=1163198527/ref=sr_1_28/104-6614225-0068709?ie=UTF8&s=dvd) i will be getting that box set!
:confused:
Either they're getting very liberal with the term "Classic" or I'm very old :(
Stranger With Candy
11-10-2006, 04:14 PM
:confused:
Either they're getting very liberal with the term "Classic" or I'm very old :(
hehe i guess its a classic for the people that gew up with that show. like me.
Reptisaurus!
11-10-2006, 05:36 PM
Bronze Age. Haney/Aparo. Probably.
Weirdly, though I've loved everything he did with Marvel so much it kind of scares me, I never really cared for Engelhart's Batman much.
Ooh! Except for Night of the Stalker, which was flat-out phenomenal.
On the other hand I dunno. One of the defining elements of Batman fer me is that he's constanly being recreated and reinterpreted.
Fenix
11-10-2006, 05:41 PM
Damn!! I want to correct my vote!!! I voted Batman Begins when I really would have wanted to vote JLU-TAS BATMAN.
Withdraw one vote from Batman Begins and add it to JLU-TAS :)
Damn!! I want to correct my vote!!! I voted Batman Begins when I really would have wanted to vote JLU-TAS BATMAN.
Withdraw one vote from Batman Begins and add it to JLU-TAS
poll edited to reflect this
Fenix
11-11-2006, 09:27 AM
poll edited to reflect this
Thanks a lot!:D
Kieralinn
11-11-2006, 10:29 PM
I think the animated Bats in all forms...TAS, Gotham Knights, Beyond, JL and JLU encapture all of the good aspects of all the incarnations of Batman/Bruce Wayne.......so I went with that.
Kieralinn
11-11-2006, 10:35 PM
the animated series.:)
off topic but: does annyone knows if you can buy DVD box sets of that show?
Yes..there are 4 box sets for the whole series including when it switched to Gotham Knights.....the first year of Justice League is also on DVD in Box set now...all 3 for Superman:TAS....and Batman Beyond also has some..I forget how many though. JLU is coming soon but most of the eps can be found on DVD but not in box sets. Your local Wal-mart/ K-mart usually has them along with any video store.
I have ALL of the Beyond, JL, JLU and Gotham Knights on tape...have 3 of the box sets for TAS....don't have Superman yet but plan too soon.
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