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Ontir
10-17-2006, 02:31 PM
...who really doesn't give a damn about the events of 52?
I'm sorry, I've tried; but I just cant' get into this thing. Most of the "heroes" seem like throw-aways, killing time, and marking places until the real deal returns. The endless rotation of artists necessary to pull the schedule off is uneven, to be kind, and frankly my real interest in Isis largely died when the saturday morning show was cancelled. The only thing I had any real interest in, was the Supernov mystery, and that's waning too.
David Atkins
10-17-2006, 02:40 PM
52 lost me at issue #7.
Not that it was bad or anything, I just wasn't enjoying it much. I wasn't getting anything out of owning and reading the issues that I couldn't get out of quickly reading over the issue summaries that have been posted here.
I like it quite a bit. and I think the main reason I like it, is because the "real deal" people are gone. Allowing lesser known people to shine. Question is working his stuff, and ralph is kicking ass and taking names. And animal man and Strange have got quite an interesting quest themselves.
Actually the more "big" the characters are, the less I like them. The whole lex luthor/steel drama thing is rather boring. All the angst is making me choke.
Jack Zodiac
10-17-2006, 02:53 PM
Yeah, I've always been a fan of third-stringers, and this book has 'em by the bucket. I could care less what the events of this book connect to in the grand scheme of things, I just like reading about characters like The Question, and Steel, and Elongated Man, even if they're being changed dramatically or adapting into new roles.
sly_kat
10-17-2006, 02:58 PM
At first this book was slow for me and i was gonna drop it... but slowly but surely its pulling itself up... and its pickin up pace!:D and only gets more interesting, especially with this week's issue;)
Cassius6303
10-17-2006, 03:04 PM
I'm with Jack, I love the 3rd Stringers. And DC has some of the best 3rd stringers out there.
I'm loving the mysteries that are slowing being revealed over the course of the series and the OYL titles. Is it slow at times? Yes, but that's because it's necessary to set the stage for what's coming.
This will definitely be one of those titles that will be a great read once complete.
Jamie
cactusmaac
10-17-2006, 03:27 PM
Lobo's about the only character who interests me.
Shellhead
10-17-2006, 03:38 PM
There are a lot of things that I'm enjoying about 52. The artwork is uneven and often plain, but the writing is pretty good. The plots are mostly interesting, and are getting more so as some seem to converge or at least overlap. We are getting quite the tour of the DCU, and Morrison keeps tossing interesting new ideas into the mix. And while I thought that this series was just going to focus on a half-dozen characters, we are getting a lot more in the bargain, including significant cameos by first-string characters like Green Lantern and Green Arrow. By the time 52 is over, the DCU will be an even more interesting place, and there is nothing wrong with that.
dazzler_slave
10-17-2006, 05:10 PM
Yeah, add me to the list of people who are enjoying 52. The storys are really picking up steam and getting more and more interesting. The uneven art does not bother me at all, because for the most part I have enjoyed the artists. Also, I am a HUGE fan of the smaller characters. I get tired of EVERYTHING being about Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern etc. It's nice to see the other characters of the DCU getting their time in the sun.
Ontir
10-17-2006, 05:14 PM
I like the lesser known characters in general, it's just that I don't feel I'm getting a new lease on lesser seen people; but filler with people who are going to be swept aside very soon. I guess, from responses thus far, that it's just me; but that's OK. I'm going to tell my dealer that I'm taking the issues he's pulled; but to stop pulling 52 from this point on.
Paul McEnery
10-17-2006, 05:39 PM
Count me in on 52. I wasn't sold at first, because it's diluted Morrison, and doesn't have the power and structure of a regular Morrison joint. But that said, Waid is a good camp follower, and Morrison is clearly in the driving seat, and that accounts for the successful exercise in world-building.
I feel like the project fleshes out what it's like to live in the DC Universe. It's like it's following on from Marvels and Astro City, but realizing that DC is at its best when the writers get that it's a primary colour 2D universe, and the heroes are local gods. You can't Marvels up DC, because the characters won't behave the same way. What you can do is have these simply bizarre characters interacting according to their local logic, and that's just what we see here.
I mean, the Cricketron, for chrissakes.
Hulkamaniac
10-17-2006, 07:03 PM
I actually love 52, and as a matter of fact I probably would be reading alot less DC if it weren't for the fact that I am picking a DC title every week. Compared to alot of the other DC stuff 52 has a great feel and story going on. It got me re -interested in characters like Animal Man, Question, Montoya and alot off other smaller characters. And I think its got a killer team of writers on the project, more hard core comic people than as compared to alot of the new "hollywood" writers and writers who made their marks first outside of comics. I think that helps to accomplish the varied stories and characters, these guys have worked on DC characters and these specific ones in 52 alot and I think it shows.
Jack Zodiac
10-17-2006, 07:52 PM
I'm going to tell my dealer that I'm taking the issues he's pulled; but to stop pulling 52 from this point on.
How many weeks into it are you caught up with? You might find a story within the past couple of months that's more than interesting enough to stick around for. One of my favorite more recent plots was Doctor Magnus' story picking up.
skally19
10-17-2006, 08:16 PM
i'm fully with 52. it wasn't fantastic for awhile, but it's paying off now, and i know it will even more later
Count Vertigo
10-17-2006, 08:18 PM
I'm still enjoying it. I've always loved anthology titles.
Babylon23
10-17-2006, 11:09 PM
I'm a huge fan of 3rd stringers, and 52 is actually featuring some of my absolute favourites. The Question is very close to being my favourite DC character, and I love Montoya, Booster, Black Adam, Elongated Man, Animal Man and Adam Strange. It's almost like DC decided to publish a book based entirely on the characters I love.
Also, I've found the artist reasonably consistent, probably due to Giffen's layouts.
Bored at 3:00AM
10-17-2006, 11:24 PM
I dropped 52 after the first month failed to capture my interest, but I recently started picking up the occassional new issue and have been impressed by the jump in quality. I'm very interested in some storylines like the Lost in Space trio and Doc Magnus but I couldn't care less about Montoya and The Question (whom I loved in JLU, but just isn't doing it for me here). Black Adam & Steel are pretty cool, but I can take or leave them right now.
OzBat!
10-18-2006, 08:35 AM
I'm glad I stuck around past the initial issues. The Black Adam extended family is, in hindsight, a no-brainer... why had nobody done this before? Montoya bores me, but the Question is definitely going to be a driver behind working out what the hell is going on, so it's still good. Doc Magnus' story looks like all sorts of fun. Other stuff will be introduced as we go, and some of it will overlap, some won't.
We're almost at the halfway mark now, and it'll only keep building in momentum.
Joe Acro
10-18-2006, 09:08 AM
I would like 52 better if I didn't constantly think, "This isn't everything that's happening. I want to know everything!" It really takes away from the concept. "We're going to fill in the missing year." No you're not. You're going to fill-in what happened to characters that don't currently have their own mag. That's hardly the same.
brundlefly
10-18-2006, 09:22 AM
I enjoy lots of aspects of 52, primarily Lex's prominent role (given his expulsion to character limbo in current DC continuity), plus the chance for supporting cast characters like Question, Adam Strange, Animal Man, Steel, Ralph, Montoya, Will Magnus, etc. to all get more playing time. And I also love the Black Adam/Marvel family, Island of Criminal Scientists, and "Time is Broken" subplots and like seeing them develop slowly, anthology-style. There are some weeks where it does seem like nothing of note actually happens, though, so I recognize that as a valid criticism of the format. But that's bound to happen when four of these come out each month and not everybody cares about every single one of the storylines (for instance, I don't care that much about the true identity of Supernova). So when an issue focuses on a character or story a person doesn't like, it's easy to complain and write it off as "filler" or "nothing happened this week."
Ontir
10-18-2006, 10:08 AM
How many weeks into it are you caught up with? You might find a story within the past couple of months that's more than interesting enough to stick around for. One of my favorite more recent plots was Doctor Magnus' story picking up.
I'm 2 weeks behind.
geordiesteve
10-18-2006, 10:14 AM
You're not the only one. I stopped getting it at week 3. Now I just read the reviews with spoilers to find out what, if any, significant events are going on in the book and if it will affect the DCU.
I understand the idea of what they're doing, the originality of it, and I applaud them for trying it, but in terms of my wallet, I couldn't justify it, and in terms of it being amazing and favourite characters that I really MUST read, there weren't any in the book. So I wasn't going to take one title off my standing order to replace it with this if it didn't appeal.
Ontir
10-18-2006, 11:19 AM
52 X $2.50 = $130.00
That's more than 5 series in 1 year. That's a whole lot to be asking people to commit to, especially when it slogs along.
Jack Zodiac
10-18-2006, 11:32 AM
The Black Adam extended family is, in hindsight, a no-brainer... why had nobody done this before?
Well, mostly because he was a villain. ;)
Right now, though, he's hopscotching between good, evil, and moral ambiguity. While a lot of people are sick of that, I think I'd rather see him flounder between hero and anti-hero than become a real hero. Who could look up to this guy, who's killed more people than most of us know? :p
I love his story, though, and it's gonna' blow when they screw it up and make him go back to being evil (c'mon, y'know it's gonna' happen), because his story is where the Marvel Family should be going, as opposed to the debacle that is Trials of Shazam!.
Jack Zodiac
10-18-2006, 11:34 AM
52 X $2.50 = $130.00
That's more than 5 series in 1 year. That's a whole lot to be asking people to commit to, especially when it slogs along.
It is a lot. It's more of a commitment than reading a book steadily for a whole year, because it comes out weekly (which I like, and would like to see more of). Still, for people who want this kind of story-fix weekly, it's great, and made even better if you like some of the characters they're focusing on.
Shellhead
10-18-2006, 03:18 PM
52 X $2.50 = $130.00
That's more than 5 series in 1 year. That's a whole lot to be asking people to commit to, especially when it slogs along.
It's not that bad. Five monthly DC titles would be:
5 X 12 X $3.00 = $180.00.
The $2.50 price for each issue of 52 is a bargain.
Ontir
10-18-2006, 03:46 PM
My Scottish nature finds it hard to pony up $2.50 for pretty much anything!
I'm still lamenting the days of the 40¢ comic book! ;)
Shellhead
10-18-2006, 04:07 PM
My Scottish nature finds it hard to pony up $2.50 for pretty much anything!
I'm still lamenting the days of the 40¢ comic book! ;)
It was half that when I started buying comics. Ah, for the days when I could buy most of Marvel's monthly output with my wages as a paperboy, and still save money for college.
Guts/Batman
10-18-2006, 04:30 PM
Me. I don't give a damn about this series. There are better comics out there to be using my money on than this.
Bruce Wayne Jr.
10-18-2006, 04:38 PM
Loving every minute of it.
Something tells me the back end of this series is really gonna explode.
Autonomy
10-18-2006, 05:28 PM
Lobo's about the only character who interests me.
i almost dropped it because of Lobo, 52 is awesome, but the lost in space story is extremely boring.
Ontir
10-18-2006, 05:44 PM
It was half that when I started buying comics. Ah, for the days when I could buy most of Marvel's monthly output with my wages as a paperboy, and still save money for college.
I actually remember when they went from 16¢ to 20¢, I just never got annoyed until the jump from 40¢ to 45¢!
PastePotPete
10-19-2006, 06:58 AM
I've got every issue, and I'm going to collect all 52.
That said, I'll agree with anyone who says that the series is very uneven. It does slog along.
Here we are at Week 24, two issues away from the halfway point, and most characters are in pretty much the same bucket they were in when we started. Excepting, of course, Booster Gold.
But there are great moments peppered throughout. And the whole story is a bit trippy, what with Morrison, Waid, Johns, Rucka, and Giffen all stirring the pot. I like long, strange, trippy stories.
The mystery is keeping me reading. I really want to see where they're going with this. They better be going somewhere.
Mostly, though, I just love COLLECTING this series. I love getting it every week. I love the covers. They're beautiful. I love the origin story back-ups. I love the characters featured in the book even if they're not doing much and I love that almost every DC character is making an appearance. The Beefeater was in it, for God's sake!
This is one of the few comics I have ever collected where I was willing to put up with a C- story because its collectability scored an A+
Agentum
10-19-2006, 07:06 AM
No, i don't read them either, i am not that intrested in these big events at all.
Looking at my favorite storylines there is not a single bige event in it, not one, looking back most is totaly waste of time.
The little i have read of it shows the second rate heroes acting weird probably to be bent to fit the story.
A lot of them goes crazy without really showing that behavior before the series.
I i somehow missed a extremly good story i can hunt that down later when all is done.
No get it done with and give us som memorable storys to read.:-)
Agentum
10-19-2006, 07:14 AM
Right now, though, he's hopscotching between good, evil, and moral ambiguity. While a lot of people are sick of that, I think I'd rather see him flounder between hero and anti-hero than become a real hero. Who could look up to this guy, who's killed more people than most of us know? :p
![/i].
Well, i see a lot of readers admiring him now as he is now so....
A lot of times when the writers tries to give a bad guy a personality people will begin to like him no matter what a killer he is.
Look at Watchmens Rorschach etc, ment to be disliked but became very popular.
Jeff-E
10-19-2006, 07:53 AM
I started collecting 52, but now I've stopped, it's just too drawn out, and it doesn't focus on the characters I want to see. Now I just look for the space issues and pretty well ignore the rest.
TheTen-EyedMan
10-19-2006, 08:20 AM
Me. I don't give a damn about this series. There are better comics out there to be using my money on than this.
Quoted for truth.
I saved my bread and bought 7 Soldiers rather than than 52.
Thank God for that.
I know which series is infinitely better. It has a prime number in it's title.
Josh S
10-19-2006, 10:07 AM
I had no interest from the begining. After buying the IC minis and tie-ins I decided to quit buying "big events". If they happen to crossover into a series I'm buying, I'll get that issue, but for everything else I can just read about it online.
That being said, the back-up orgin stories (which I wasn't aware of) interest me, so once 52's all said and done I may pick a complete run on the cheap to read those.
Joe Rice
10-19-2006, 10:15 AM
It's not that I don't care about the characters . . .I don't intrinsically care about ANY fake person. I just don't care about the stories . . .they are slow, boring, and without any kind of innovation, zeal, or fun. That's money I'd rather spend on a lot of things.
Reggie Swats
10-21-2006, 09:47 AM
Am I the only one... who's a little tired of people using vague post subjects with "..." that don't give us any clue what you want to talk about? You could have just as easily typed "I don't give a damn about 52." Plus then I wouldn't have wasted my time clicking on it.
Joe Rice
10-21-2006, 12:08 PM
Am I the only one... who's a little tired of people using vague post subjects with "..." that don't give us any clue what you want to talk about? You could have just as easily typed "I don't give a damn about 52." Plus then I wouldn't have wasted my time clicking on it.
Yikes! If that was the worst thing to happen to you today, good job on having a great day!
Kid Kamikaze10
10-21-2006, 12:27 PM
I'm definitely enjoying 52. It spotlights on characters that we barely see in ways that are very innovative (like Pope Lobo, or Scientist Island).
It makes the DCU seems more connected, more lively, and in contrast to what others have been saying, more fun.
Josh S
10-21-2006, 12:54 PM
Am I the only one... who's a little tired of people using vague post subjects with "..." that don't give us any clue what you want to talk about? You could have just as easily typed "I don't give a damn about 52." Plus then I wouldn't have wasted my time clicking on it.
I know what you mean. It's almost as bad as people who respond to a thread only to complain about something as trivial as the thread title.
So, I looked in the back of an issue of 52 yesterday to see what the orgins were like. Now I don't care about them either.
stealthwise
10-21-2006, 01:11 PM
I love anthology titles, but this book isn't an anthology in a strict sense. I tried the first three issues, got bored and returned them, then dropped the book completely. I can't even be bothered to look up what happened from week to week on the internet.
Basically all of the interest I had built up towards the DCU since the Countdown to Infinite Crisis has now died, and I'm buying less DCU titles than ever as a result.
Guts/Batman
10-21-2006, 05:03 PM
Basically all of the interest I had built up towards the DCU since the Countdown to Infinite Crisis has now died, and I'm buying less DCU titles than ever as a result.
As am I, I am burnt out from reading for crappy stuff before the OYL. It has carried over, and as a result has lead me to drop many titles that I have been reading previous to this.
Rio_de_Janeiro
10-21-2006, 05:50 PM
and will read it all.
90'sCartoonMan
10-21-2006, 07:51 PM
I would like 52 better if I didn't constantly think, "This isn't everything that's happening. I want to know everything!" It really takes away from the concept. "We're going to fill in the missing year." No you're not. You're going to fill-in what happened to characters that don't currently have their own mag. That's hardly the same.
I have a similar feeling. I like seeing lesser known heroes get the spotlight. Question is consistently entertaining, I've always been a fan of Black Adam, the scientists disappearing is interesting, and I'm looking forward to seeing the whole mystery unfold.
However, when a lot of comics skipped ahead OYL, I was expecting to see some important stuff filled in from 52. I want to know what happened to Dick and Barbara's engagement, see some of the new Teen Titans recruits in action, that sort of thing. Sure, the main titles give us flashbacks and whatnot sometimes, but aside from Green Arrow, I feel like there are stories from the missing year that will always go untold.
Bruce Wayne Jr.
10-21-2006, 11:16 PM
Am I the only one... who's a little tired of people using vague post subjects with "..." that don't give us any clue what you want to talk about? You could have just as easily typed "I don't give a damn about 52." Plus then I wouldn't have wasted my time clicking on it.
Quoted for CBR pseudo-truth!
stealthwise
10-21-2006, 11:20 PM
Quoted for CBR pseudo-truth!
Bah, just run your cursor over the thread's title and the yellow preview box will show up and give you an idea.
dancj
10-25-2006, 05:49 AM
Am I the only one... who's a little tired of people using vague post subjects with "..." that don't give us any clue what you want to talk about? You could have just as easily typed "I don't give a damn about 52." Plus then I wouldn't have wasted my time clicking on it.
No you aren't
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