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Gail Simone
10-16-2006, 06:15 AM
...any way you wanted, which would you pick?

Gail

DungeonmasterJim
10-16-2006, 06:33 AM
New Excalibur.

I would ditch most of the new team and bring back the original team of:

Rachel Grey - Marvel Girl
Kitty Pryde
Capt. Britain
Meggan
Nightcrawler

I always liked the bizarreness of this title. Of course, my run wouldn't be complete without Alan Davis and Mark Farmer handling the art chores.

DM Jim

Crowley
10-16-2006, 06:39 AM
She-Hulk, after Dan Slott.
Spider-man.

beyond that I really don't have alot of connection to the Marvel U.

Arawn
10-16-2006, 06:46 AM
Wolverine - He heals but he still has to deal with the physical pain of every injury as he heals. This is something no writer has ever dwelled on. I'd want to get in his head and really tinker with not only why he does what he does, but it's lasting effects on him.

Graham Vingoe
10-16-2006, 06:50 AM
Bizarrely enough I'd not plump for an obvious choice, but would love to write Ms Marvel.
There's something about the character of Carol Danvers which makes a lot of writers want to use her, and it would be a really interesting experiment to see what directions she could be taken. If nothing else, it needs to be firmly established exactly how powerful she is, as there has been too much variation between writers.
I like the Reed/de La Torre run at the present but whether they can sustain the title I don't know.
My alternative is based purely on Brian Cronin's " write about a character you hate" principle. The challenge of writing She-Hulk would be interesting. She has just never clicked with me. There has to be something that could be done to make her interesting.

Actually, I should consider a pitch to create a superteam from She-Hulk, the Ms Marvel/She Thing and Spiderwoman 2- 3 characters I have never warmed to.

Sharpandpointies
10-16-2006, 06:51 AM
Easy money - Dr. Strange. Take him back to his roots, and go from there.

Less 'I'm the token magic-user you must have in every large crossover'. More the 'I'm sorry, the Sorcerer Supreme is out right now, because Dimension X decided it was a good time to invade. He's off brewing a resistance against their overlord.'

Matt Linton
10-16-2006, 07:10 AM
New Defenders:

Dr. Strange
Nightcrawler
Longshot
Beta Ray Bill
Emma Frost

KenK
10-16-2006, 07:21 AM
Blade, I'm tired of Marvel screwin' the pooch everytime they release a Blade title to coincide with either a movie or in this case, the television series (as I doubt they'd have even done it if not for the series. Makes you wonder how long the comic's got now that the series has been cancelled).

First problem to attack is the art. Steve Skroce is about the only artist to do a good rendition of Movie-Blade, unlike Bart "my character's muscles have muscles" Sears. If not Skroce, I'd get my boy Khary Randolph, I think he'd kill on a Blade comic.

I'd definitely establish the vampire houses like the movies and series. I'd keep him separate from the superhero world, possibly moving from city to city with every arc. if he's gonna cross paths with any other Marvel people, it's gonna be guys like Strange and Ghost Rider. Real Midnight Sons type shit.

Crowley
10-16-2006, 09:21 AM
oh you know writing a character that I've never thought was really written well would be Silver Surfer.

I would come at him with the Kurosawa Ronin idea... sort of a riff on Yojimbo and Sanjuro. The Surfer is a masterless samurai... So being freed of Galactus and Earth I would hav to figure out what his purpose is.

I would also take a bit from Cassanova... Silver Surfer gave up his love to save his planet. I don't know if she's alive still in the comics but I would make his quest abit of a romantic journey. I mean he's a naked cosmic Surfer... he should be part Cassanova part Samurai.

shrike
10-16-2006, 09:26 AM
Ms Marvel... although I freakin' HATE that name. I actually liked Warbird, or heck, even CAPTAIN Marvel... 'Ms.' now seems so retro.

I'd like to try my hand at a Dazzler ongoing. No joke.

I'd like to do the INVADERS. Try it this time not to be as lame. Union Jack, Spitfire, Patriot, Blue Diamond, Red Raven, a new Jack Frost (this time, maybe just 'Frost', and it would be a woman), and a new Destroyer (with powers, and really only tied in name to the character). Obviously, there'd have to be a lot of resurrections going on, lol.

TomStillwell
10-16-2006, 09:34 AM
I'd like to do a book for Marvel featuring a team of international heroes in the same vein as the Global Guardians.

Captain_Video
10-16-2006, 10:09 AM
A Man Thing series written like "Zelig" in which we find out the mute, mindless Man Thing was a key component of many significant events in American history, like the Kennedy assasination, which explains why he is the guardian of the Nexus of all Realities.

Or behind the scenes with the council of Kangs.

Cayman
10-16-2006, 10:33 AM
Man-Thing! I love that mucky beastie.

Dedagda
10-16-2006, 10:59 AM
Jessica Jones. I miss Jessica Jones. Bendis did such a great job so I wouldn't really want to follow him.

New Avengers maybe? Its a wonderful book. But we're 25 issues into it and I don't feel any forward motion. I'm not getting "super-heroes." I'd add some more fun and adventure. Marvel is going through Civil War, though.

Davideaux
10-16-2006, 11:05 AM
Namor

I'd keep off land for a long time. Try to establish him as a credible mon

David Wharton
10-16-2006, 11:14 AM
Power Pack because there is something really cool about young kids (not teenagers) dealing with powers.

Lester C.
10-16-2006, 11:16 AM
I would love to write a novel staring The Punisher.

Merey
10-16-2006, 11:19 AM
I'd choose Alias, just so I could resurrect the title. Or, actually, any title with Jessica Jones would do .

Jeff Brady
10-16-2006, 11:21 AM
I would love to write a novel staring The Punisher.

No Adrian Paul/Frank Castle slash fic, okay?

Super Sonic
10-16-2006, 11:23 AM
The Adventures of Deadpool

Evan Waters
10-16-2006, 11:58 AM
THE AVENGERS. Make it bold and iconic, with plotlines that move at a good clip.

Kevinroc
10-16-2006, 12:50 PM
Hulk. The story of the man scared of the beast within. Even The Hulk is scared of his own rage and the potential for destruction he could cause.

And here's the thing. EVERYONE has to be nervous around The Hulk, because they don't know if he'll be friend or foe. It dilutes the concept when so many characters aren't the least bit scared of The Hulk. This should be the one guy that makes anybody nervous. No matter if you're Ben Grimm, Dr. Doom, Wolverine, Captain America, Magneto or whoever. Not to say that Galactus should be afraid of him but for characters that live around Earth (or wherever Hulk's stomping grounds are at the time) should be afraid of him.

That said, I think Greg Pak is doing a wonderful job with this type of concept. Everyone is scared of The Hulk's rage, even The Hulk himself.

PatrickG
10-16-2006, 12:55 PM
If it doesn't have to be existing?

DEADPOOL: THE INFINITY BROUHAHA

Guess what's back? Guess who has it? Betcha can't guess who are the only people alive who can stop him! Heroes divided (literally), villains united (literally!) and someone pays the ultimate price (figuratively). Not only that but two love triangles take a twist for the weird in this cosmic game of drunken twister! Reality will ever be the same again, assuming it was ever the same to begin with!

ULTIMATE WARLOCK

Perfect Man. Perfect Weapon. Imperfect World. Everybody wants a piece of him. Who is "him"? Adam Warlock is trying to answer that question. If he succeeds, he might just manage to be humanity's savior. If he's lucky.

GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY or DOOM 2099 would be up there for a revival too.

If it's an existing book?

FANTASTIC FOUR.

Hush Little Batman
10-16-2006, 01:19 PM
You mean I'd have free reign without any editorial interference whatsoever? :evilsmile

Then I’d have to go with - Captain America.

My opinion on Cap is that he’s very much like Superman in the sense that I don't feel either has ever truly been put through a constant emotional wringer (please spare me the "man out of time" bit).

There are many people in this world (both in the U.S. and internationally), for whom the American flag isn't a symbol of freedom, but one of oppression and global domination and they despise it with a passion. Cap's costume basically makes him a walking U.S. flag, so I'd have him come face-to-face with what that means in today’s society. I’d have him question himself. Is he still a symbol for freedom or does he represent something dark and insidious disguised as hope?

IMHO, Steve Rogers, Captain America, whatever you want to call him, is one of the most boring characters in all of comics and right now, he shouldn’t be. Because of today’s political climate, his series should be something comic fans talk about. It should be political and challenging. It shouldn’t stir up controversy for the sake of it, but it damn sure should take it head-on. His title should be a topical book and it’s not. Instead of making Cap relevant to today’s events, Marvel has him in leading some secret team in their annual summer crossover and his actions in that series, as we all know, will not have long-lasting effects on him.

Forget “Civil War”, there are far more important things going on in the world that Cap can be dealing with and it doesn’t include fighting every issue. The menace of the Red Skull is nothing compared to a disenchanted populace that has grown up believing its leaders don’t care for them. I’d have Steve come to grips with the fact that slowly but surely, Americans have lost faith in their government. That while the world was a simpler place in the 1940's and villainy was easy to recognize, it isn't so simple anymore. I'd make him face these hard facts and then question himself and his role in all of it. He'd become the lightning rod for American hatred. He, more than any other hero, should be facing constant verbal and physical harassment from anti-Americans but I wouldn’t make his detractors a bunch of rifle-armed nutcases that can easily be dismissed. No, no, no; they’d be well spoken and educated people, teachers, doctors, lawyers, college professors, etc., they just have a differing point of view.

Some of the people he’d meet would outright hate America and other would love it, but no longer have faith in it. Steve would meet Native American children and discover their feelings towards the flag. He’d met people from the ghetto and learn first hand about their sense of abandonment. He’d meet all kinds of people on his travels and learn about the year 2006. If Marvel I still trying to push that “man out of time” crap, then for god’s sake, deal with it. Show just how difficult it is for a soldier to go from a 1940’s society to one in 2006. My goal would be to make Steve Rogers relevant again and show why the world needs him, because right now, in my humble opinion, he is not.

Ironically, I don’t care for Captain America. I don’t hate him, but I wouldn’t call myself a fan. My favorite Marvel character is Spider-Man and my two favorite mutants are Bishop and Blink and while I’d love to write all three of them in some way, the opportunity to write Cap’s exploits in this day and age, without interference, would be too good to pass up.

NickG
10-16-2006, 02:03 PM
Wow....tough question. My problem is I'd think I'd screw it up....hmm. If I had to pick a comic I'd say The Hood. I have heard he was being written about a little in the Beyond series but past that, first/last I read of the character was from Brian K. Vaughan's Blood from a Stones TPB. Vaughan wrote the character in such a way to where you were hungry for more stories about this character and I just always wanted to see that story continue, have the character keep struggling with his identity/morality as well as further developing the powers he is obtainning. I don't know there is just a lot of good material there to work from and I think it'd be fun to write.

NickThompson
10-16-2006, 02:55 PM
If You Could Write Any Marvel Comic...
...it would probably suck :)

Gavin Higginbotham, BotF
10-16-2006, 03:01 PM
Wolverine.

I'd have him acting in a purely covert manner, hunting down and eliminating those threats that the X-Men are too squemish to deal with, or don't want to dirty themselves with.

I love the thought of Wolverine getting fed up with all of these villains just escaping from either capture or prison, slaughtering innocent mutants or humans and basically making nuisances of themselves. Wolverine could simply go after them. And kill them.

Thinking about it... this is scarily similar to the start of the 'Vendetta' arc currently unfolding. Damn.

amboy00
10-16-2006, 03:02 PM
Mystique as the new Black Widow

Cloak and Dagger need a comeback.

Indigo Al
10-16-2006, 05:48 PM
Marvel's got a fantastic supernatural/horror stable that no one has been able to do right by since the 1970s. In the 90's, they were trying to make it mirror Vertigo and you had Dr Strange with a trenchcoat of levitation, or you had mulleted Liefeldian Midnight Sons. Warren Ellis's Hellstorm was incredible, and Darkhold: Pages From the Book of Sins had an excellent start.

The latter is one I would revive - keep the art moody and dark, focus on Buchanan, Louise Hastings (yeah she died, big deal, I'd bring her back) and of course extend the mystery behind Vicki Montesi. If the Monstesi family is incorruptible, how could she truly be Chthon's daughter?

Dr. Strange as high octane superheroic sorcery! No trenchcoats, no serial killers, no "I'll be drawing upon my real-life experience as a 34th Level Magus of the Golden Blavatasky blablabla". This is a character that offers extreme potential for awesome psychedelic visuals and experimentation.

I'd revive Tomb of Dracula with a brand new cast tied to the original Drac Pack - no Blade, but he could guest star every now and then - and even a new villain: Rachel Van Helsing!

On the non-horror side, I'd make a solo book for Storm. Split her and T'Challa up, let her take Xavier's mission to the rest of the world by giving her a sci-fi base of operations in the Island of Kirinos and a supporting staff. She'll deal with X-Men things all over the world, perhaps run a school in Kirinos (granted this would work better if there was still a mutant population boom, but whatever...)

Magneto_X
10-16-2006, 06:27 PM
Black Widow
Daredevil
Incredible Hulk
Silver Surfer
Captain America
Ultimate Blade
The White Tiger (Angela Del Toro version)
Moon Knight
Dr.Strange
The Defenders
Avengers
Machine Man a.k.a X-51
Vision
Heroes For Hire (get it back to the previous incarnation that Pascal Ferry drew)
Maverick (one of Marvel's best new series that got cancelled to early. Don't know why it failed. :( )
The Ultimates
Ms. Marvel
Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew)
Captain Marvel (Genis Vell or his twin sister)
U.S. Agent
Deadpool
Taskmaster
Firelord (most under-rated Herald *ever*)
X-men (with Kitty Pryde & Havoc)
Archangel (I'd give Warren back his Death upgrade so he isn't just a guy with wings in order to make him a badass again)
Fantastic Four (retcon the Crucible from #2-3 [vol.3] into being a Tibetan monk again instead of a random scientist from Genosha making him a third element for both Reed and Doom to contend with and even team-up to stop, make their adventures cosmic in nature while still keeping the "family" atmosphere intact. I'd make them true explorers again---like Waid was doing pre-Unthinkable. Possibly make Thanos a major player in their cosmic adventures. Not as a villian per se, but as a presence who manipulates them to fulfil his goals as proxies---only they don't know it )

Tobias March
10-16-2006, 06:46 PM
oh you know writing a character that I've never thought was really written well would be Silver Surfer.

I would come at him with the Kurosawa Ronin idea... sort of a riff on Yojimbo and Sanjuro. The Surfer is a masterless samurai... So being freed of Galactus and Earth I would hav to figure out what his purpose is.

I would also take a bit from Cassanova... Silver Surfer gave up his love to save his planet. I don't know if she's alive still in the comics but I would make his quest abit of a romantic journey. I mean he's a naked cosmic Surfer... he should be part Cassanova part Samurai.

That's my favourite so far :-)

I'd like a non-US superhero team book, and there's a few teams been mentioned in the past. A Japanese team though would be class. Big Six still exists doesn't it. Shiro would have nothing to do with this, in fact no mutants at all. Some crazy Japanese Manga style science heroes mixed with some ghoulish ghost hunters, mining as much of the culture as possible. Twould be different anyhow :D

Crowley
10-16-2006, 06:50 PM
That's my favourite so far :-)

awesome!
:D

Magneto_X
10-16-2006, 07:01 PM
oh you know writing a character that I've never thought was really written well would be Silver Surfer.

I would come at him with the Kurosawa Ronin idea... sort of a riff on Yojimbo and Sanjuro. The Surfer is a masterless samurai... So being freed of Galactus and Earth I would hav to figure out what his purpose is.

I would also take a bit from Cassanova... Silver Surfer gave up his love to save his planet. I don't know if she's alive still in the comics but I would make his quest abit of a romantic journey. I mean he's a naked cosmic Surfer... he should be part Cassanova part Samurai.

I'd have him as a wandering drifter pacifist who is doing all he can to redeem himself from aiding Galactus in killing untold numbers of sentients as his Herald.

He'd deal with various species all over the universe, those who he has wronged in the past (as Galactus servant), those whose schemes he's screwed up post-Galactus and those who have heard rumours of him and see him as a dark omen for doomed worlds.

He'd go on spiritual journeys and constantly have to get around situations that aren't black and white.

I'd also bring in the Savior (from Demattius run) to be his rival as Marvel's "Space Jesus" arch-type.

Like with Dr.Strange pratcially *anything* can occur and he has to get out of situations where he has to use his guile and his uber-power to survive.

howyadoin
10-16-2006, 07:06 PM
My opinion on Cap is that he’s very much like Superman in the sense that I don't feel either has ever truly been put through a constant emotional wringer.Not even when he fought the Secret Empire, leading up to Nixon's blowing his brains out in front of Cap?

Magneto_X
10-16-2006, 07:11 PM
Not even when he fought the Secret Empire, leading up to Nixon's blowing his brains out in front of Cap?

Cap had a tough time when he was fired by the government and replaced by John Walker, too.

Hybrid2
10-16-2006, 07:13 PM
Blade, I'm tired of Marvel screwin' the pooch everytime they release a Blade title to coincide with either a movie or in this case, the television series (as I doubt they'd have even done it if not for the series. Makes you wonder how long the comic's got now that the series has been cancelled).

First problem to attack is the art. Steve Skroce is about the only artist to do a good rendition of Movie-Blade, unlike Bart "my character's muscles have muscles" Sears. If not Skroce, I'd get my boy Khary Randolph, I think he'd kill on a Blade comic.

I'd definitely establish the vampire houses like the movies and series. I'd keep him separate from the superhero world, possibly moving from city to city with every arc. if he's gonna cross paths with any other Marvel people, it's gonna be guys like Strange and Ghost Rider. Real Midnight Sons type shit.

I dont get why they keep screwing up the comic.
the movies are good. why cant they stick to the basic?

JKCarrier
10-16-2006, 07:18 PM
AVENGERS would be fun to write, provided I had free reign and didn't have to coordinate with any crossovers and junk. I've been re-reading the Lee/Kirby issues, and they have a real sense of exuberance and fun that you rarely see any more; real loose, "flying by the seat of our pants" type stuff. That's what I'd try to do -- crazy, corny, and over-the-top. And of course, after a year or so, there would have to be a big controversial membership shakeup -- take out most of the big guns and throw in some nobodies, ala "Cap's Kooky Quartet".

howyadoin
10-16-2006, 07:24 PM
I'd wanna write Black Panther, because even my shitty writing would have to be better than the dreck that Hudlin has been excreting.

Clint Barton
10-16-2006, 07:32 PM
Omega the Unknown and write it in a style just about like Gerber and Skrenes envisioned it.

Hybrid2
10-16-2006, 07:39 PM
The Migty Avengers.

not sure who would make the team.all heroes that have never been Avengers before.
Being gathered by a mysterious leader.
Virtue
Night Trasher(i got a way to bring him back)
Wanted Beta Ray bill,gess i cant now.
Nosferata
not sure who else actualy. cant remember

At end of first issue leader is revealed to be Victor Shade(secret identity of the vision)
Is mad at Tony for just puting him in a box and Civil War

Cam63
10-17-2006, 12:51 AM
" Lesbians In Love. "

Yes, I know it's not a Marvel title, but I would make it so.

Beacon
10-17-2006, 04:06 PM
Aside from the obvious (Spider-Man, Avengers, Fantastic Four, and Hulk)? I’d say the Outlaws (Characters like the Prowler, the Puma, and Sandman are all incredibly rich but they’ve been poorly used in recent years) or Sinister Syndicate (who wouldn’t love a mid-level villain team with a revolving cast?*)

*It's a freaking crime that Gail's Secret Six isn't an ongoing.

MacQuarrie
10-17-2006, 04:26 PM
The Defenders.
And I'd play them the way God intended; as a bunch of misfits who only pal around because the cool kids won't have them. They hang out at Dr. Strange's place because it's the coolest house and Clea & Wong make them lunch and are nice to them. Theyy'd be content to hang out and watch TV if only these weird villains would stop popping up. Knocking them down is as much for entertainment as to save the world.

In high school terms, the Defenders are:

Dr. Strange is the guy who could hang with the cool kids if he didn't find them such insufferable jerks. He chooses to hang with the nerds because they're more interesting, and sacrifices popularity in the process (typical art or drama geek).

Hulk is the lumbering oaf who plays bodyguard to the other nerds as a way of fitting in, simply because they treat him decently and never call him stupid (typical big guy who doesn't like organized sports).

Nighthawk is the wannabe jock who isn't quite good enough to make Varsity. Rather than be a tagalong to the first-stringers, he chooses to be a leader outside of his preferred arena. He hangs with the geeks because it's preferable to hanging with his competition in the JV squad.

Valkyrie is the weird girl who can't stand "girly" things. She wants to do rough-and-tumble active stuff with the guys. If she had to attend a fashion show she'd kill herself (the tomboy).

(Credit to Greg Hatcher for calling my attention to the group dynamics here.)

In short, it's "Freaks & Geeks" or "Napoleon Dynamite" in superhero drag.

BlackCanaryGuy
10-17-2006, 05:23 PM
Young Avengers. It's an interesting title.

Reptisaurus!
10-17-2006, 05:26 PM
Omega the Unknown and write it in a style just about like Gerber and Skrenes envisioned it.

If I thought I was remotely close to up to it, that's what I'd do.

Failing that: Kid Colt: Outlaw.

BlackCanaryGuy
10-17-2006, 05:28 PM
Power Pack because there is something really cool about young kids (not teenagers) dealing with powers.

I loved that title for the first 35 or 40 issues. I much preferred it back in the day; the new digest version (Power Pack and XXXXX) is frankly, pretty insipid.

MacQuarrie
10-17-2006, 05:39 PM
I loved that title for the first 35 or 40 issues. I much preferred it back in the day; the new digest version (Power Pack and XXXXX) is frankly, pretty insipid.
Yes, but...

It's pretty insipid for you. My 10-year-old daughter loves it.

Why do we insist that all comics be written to suit the tastes of 18- to 50-year-old males? Power Pack is perfect for its target audience.

Tobias March
10-17-2006, 05:41 PM
The Defenders.
In short, it's "Freaks & Geeks" or "Napoleon Dynamite" in superhero drag.


Yes!!! Who gets to be Bill :D

BlackCanaryGuy
10-17-2006, 05:46 PM
Yes, but...

It's pretty insipid for you. My 10-year-old daughter loves it.

Why do we insist that all comics be written to suit the tastes of 18- to 50-year-old males? Power Pack is perfect for its target audience.

I don't. I was, unsurprisingly, speaking of my own readership. I didn't say there shouldn't (or couldn't) be a digest version for kids. Power Pack as it was conceived was not such a title. I think there's room for both, just as there's room for JLA and JLU.

MacQuarrie
10-17-2006, 05:55 PM
I don't. I was, unsurprisingly, speaking of my own readership. I didn't say there shouldn't (or couldn't) be a digest version for kids. Power Pack as it was conceived was not such a title. I think there's room for both, just as there's room for JLA and JLU.
Why do they have to have a digest version? Why can't the real comics version be for them?

BlackCanaryGuy
10-17-2006, 06:45 PM
Well, I say digest version just to distinguish between the two. It doesn't really matter to me which audience is being targeted by which version.

That said, I think the kids-oriented comics tend to the digest variety for a few reasons. The mainline universes nowadays don't mix terribly well with youth-oriented reading . Whether or not that's a good thing, it's the reality. Similarly, I suspect younger readers would be less interested in a universe that hangs together coherently, both vertically and horizontally. The digest format does a better job of targeting kids reading patterns, which may not be as "collector" and "continuity" oriented as adult reading practices.

I don't see anything wrong with establishing and developing an entire line that targets specific age groups, be they kids or adults.

I don't think "digest" is a bad word. I wouldn't mind some comic digest reading myself...

BlackCanaryGuy
10-17-2006, 06:48 PM
I was under the impression that a lot of the digests are originally published as monthlies anyway. Wasn't that the case with the Power Pack ones?

Red Jack
10-17-2006, 06:51 PM
X-Men

I'm sick of the near constant emasculation of Cyclops in favor of Wolverine or any telepath that happens to be in the room.

Cyclops is the mutant equivalent of Captain America and should be portrayed that way.

I used to actually like Wolverine but now I actively dislike him due to the negitves his rise has heaped on Scott.

Booo, Logan. boooo.

That or Silver Sable.

I could have a BALL with that character.

Cam63
10-17-2006, 08:00 PM
You know, I don't think NEARLY enough time was spend on Jubilee's character in the X-books.

...Yes, that was sarcasm.

MacQuarrie
10-17-2006, 08:48 PM
I was under the impression that a lot of the digests are originally published as monthlies anyway. Wasn't that the case with the Power Pack ones?
Yes, that was the case.

Now, before we manage to escalate this into a flamewar, let's start over, looking at your last comments...

Well, I say digest version just to distinguish between the two. It doesn't really matter to me which audience is being targeted by which version.
Your first remark clearly indicates otherwise. There's more than a whiff of a dismissive tone to your comments, and you clearly indicated that you felt this version of the Power Pack should have been written to your tastes rather than to the tastes of preadolescents.

That said, I think the kids-oriented comics tend to the digest variety for a few reasons. The mainline universes nowadays don't mix terribly well with youth-oriented reading . Whether or not that's a good thing, it's the reality. Similarly, I suspect younger readers would be less interested in a universe that hangs together coherently, both vertically and horizontally. The digest format does a better job of targeting kids reading patterns, which may not be as "collector" and "continuity" oriented as adult reading practices.
The problem is, collector- and continuity-oriented writing doesn't conform to adult reading practices either. It conforms to hardcore fan buying practices, while driving everyone else away.

It's not the digest format that appeals to kids, nor is it the manga-style art. They look for the manga art and format because it signals to them that they are going to get a complete and satisfying story that they can get into and enjoy without having absorbed 50 years of backstory.
I don't see anything wrong with establishing and developing an entire line that targets specific age groups, be they kids or adults.
I don't either. But I do see a great deal wrong with adults pushing kids out of the playground and declaring that the slides and swings belong to them now. that's what we've done with Batman, the X-Men, and many others.
I don't think "digest" is a bad word. I wouldn't mind some comic digest reading myself...
I don't think it's a bad word either, except when it's used in a "know your place" tone, as in "a digest version for kids".

Shades0077
10-17-2006, 08:56 PM
Howard the Duck. Though it would pale in comparison to anything Gerber ever did. He should do a new mini and have Howard run for President again in 2008!

Generation X, starring chest-blown-away Chamber! Powerless Jubilee! Skin and Synch's corpses! M's sense of smug superiority! And who cares about Husk because she's off screwing Angel!

Magneto_X
10-17-2006, 09:23 PM
Generation X, starring chest-blown-away Chamber! Powerless Jubilee! Skin and Synch's corpses! M's sense of smug superiority! And who cares about Husk because she's off screwing Angel!

Warren Ellis, is that you? ;)

TheLyle
10-18-2006, 01:08 AM
...any way you wanted, which would you pick?


Back when Epic was around I was working on a Dazzler submission. That was partly inspired by rereading the early issues and seeing potential in the ideas, even if they were really badly executed but "Riot at Xavier's" got me thinking about mutant subculture and I realized that Alison is probably the first mutant to initially become famous for a non-mutant talent. That got me thinking to what kind of role model she must be to mutants who didn't want to be defined by their powers (especially the ones who don't have particularly impressive powers).

So. My Dazzler comic would be a soap opera with superpowers, what the original series could've been with better characterization (I'd hope) and without trying to work a battle scene into every issue.

BlackCanaryGuy
10-19-2006, 10:27 AM
Your first remark clearly indicates otherwise. There's more than a whiff of a dismissive tone to your comments, and you clearly indicated that you felt this version of the Power Pack should have been written to your tastes rather than to the tastes of preadolescents.

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I don't think it's a bad word either, except when it's used in a "know your place" tone, as in "a digest version for kids".

Well, all I can say is you misread my tone. I like comics that are clearly targeted to a younger audience. It's true that I prefer the original Power Pack, but the Franklin Richards back-ups, for example, were pretty good. The have a flavor that the main story did not. That's why the new Power Pack doesn't work for me, and why I think it's insipid. I think it a poor book within its genre. Not so with the Franklin Richards back-ups. I'd like to see FR spun into his own title. A good kids title can be entertaining across ages.

As for adults pushing kids out of comics, I agree, that's a bad thing. That's a debate that been played out on the boards before. I would disagree, however, that this is the main reason the industry has developed as it has. I suspect that transformation is more due to changing patterns of consumption and competition for youth markets than a concerted attempt to push kids out.

Zeb Oswalt
10-19-2006, 08:07 PM
...any way you wanted, which would you pick?

Gail

1. Hero's for hire Masybe add Lilith Drake, but change her name to Mina Drake.And for an issue or too they could call her the artist formaly known as Lilith.Then drop the name. She could be geting more money for her war with her dad. Mina would work as it's the name of one of Daddy's enimies. And the one who got away. And get rid of the Bug dude. Maybe add in Deamon Slayer. And play him like a heroic Christan hero. Make him like That guy Bull press had a while back.

2. Valkery Could become a Privet eye or work as an Assan for criminals that aren't quite criminal. A cop might work for her. Make it like Ms. Treeb with Powers.

3. Night Hawk remove the profling and he'd be a great charcter.

4. Prowler

5. She-Hulk well, maybe to draw.

6. The Thing.

7. Excalaber Add back Calisto lose Jugernaut. Maybe Arclight.

8. Spider Man

9. Spider Woman. Matte Jamison Something odd about JJJ's step daughter being a spider folk,. She'd hasvbe to be called Spider Babe or Spioder Girl or Ms. Spider Or Arcindia or some thing.

10. Ultament Marvel Team up. Maybe bring in Rachel Van Halsing as a Vampire hunter with a Relaty TV show like DOG the Bounty HUnter. But, she hunts Vampires. Have her team up with difrent heros maybe Blade and Spider Man. As well as others.

Ian Boothby
10-19-2006, 08:24 PM
I'd like to write a story about a guy who gets drunk in Vegas and ends up married to Satanna the Devil's Daughter. She doesn't remember it and leaves but now he's got to deal with being...

The Son in Law of Satan.

Mach5RR
10-20-2006, 12:20 AM
Iron Man. Honestly, I've been turning over IM stories in my head for years, and I would love to write the hell out of him. There are things just built into the character that just amazes me that no one has ever touched on. I myself would want to make it a mixture of tech-centric stories with a shot of "Wall Street" tossed in. I'd even go so far as to replace Tony Stark as Iron Man for awhile, as the thought of someone who now has to answer for all the financial damage just appeals to me.

Scott Edwards

Erik Burnham
10-20-2006, 12:49 AM
...any way you wanted, which would you pick?

Gail

It's such an obvious thing for me to want to write Spider-Man, it really is. Or the Awesome Slapstick... don't ask.

But really, I think I'd like to write The Champions.

You read right.

It is one weird-ass team that could be a lot of fun to play with, especially given how much they've all changed.

I don't even know why I typed that. But at least no one else is thinking it. (;

Erik Burnham
10-20-2006, 12:52 AM
I'd like to write a story about a guy who gets drunk in Vegas and ends up married to Satanna the Devil's Daughter. She doesn't remember it and leaves but now he's got to deal with being...

The Son in Law of Satan.

That's almost my life.

...Am I being followed, here?

geordiesteve
10-20-2006, 03:59 AM
A USAgent mini series in the Ultimate universe, or one in the normal, given all the fallout coming from Civil War. And obviously if it was a success, make it ongoing.

Something similar to Alias, and Punisher in some ways, as in, something on the fringe of the Marvel Universe, where characters are aware of big events, changes etc, but don't get directly involved and surf the repercussions. Closest to that at the moment is Heroes for Hire I would say, which is really good.

A Magneto and the Brotherhood mini series. A book from his perspective looking at how he views Prof X, big events, etc, and how they interfere or play into his own agenda. A book where it shows how clever he really is, and how he can pull strings in the Marvel U to get what he wants. An opposite side of the coin to Illuminati book, with his inner circle of top mutants, not just the muscle foot soldiers in his cause. Who are his go to guys? Who are his equivalents to Wolverine, Cyclops, Beast etc? How does he do things?

Captain America - not currently though as I think Brubaker's stuff is some of the best Captain America stories we have had in decades, so once he left, although following that would be difficult.

WhiteRose
10-20-2006, 10:35 PM
Runaways. Though after BKV and now Whedon are finished with it...how would one continue?

Don't know, but I would hella love to write them.

Red Jack
10-20-2006, 10:43 PM
I'd like to write a story about a guy who gets drunk in Vegas and ends up married to Satanna the Devil's Daughter. She doesn't remember it and leaves but now he's got to deal with being...

The Son in Law of Satan.

That's so crazy it just might work.

stealthwise
10-20-2006, 11:31 PM
Runaways! I love those moody little bastards, and they're perfectly suited for 1980's throwback stories. I could probably write their dialogue in my sleep.

I'd also dig a crack at Deadpool, sans Cable, written like he was at the end of his solo title. My best Gail impersonation.

bfrank
10-21-2006, 12:07 AM
X-Men: Charlie's Angles with Storm, Psylocke and Shadowcat....

heystacy
10-21-2006, 11:53 AM
I'd love to write Nextwave: Agents of Hate. Not that I could outdo Ellis, but I'd like to work on a book that the characters and situations are so crazy. :cool:

shrike
10-21-2006, 12:21 PM
I'd like to write a story about a guy who gets drunk in Vegas and ends up married to Satanna the Devil's Daughter. She doesn't remember it and leaves but now he's got to deal with being...

The Son in Law of Satan.

Easily the most creative take thus far.

... and the scariest.

SUPERECWFAN1
10-21-2006, 01:02 PM
Powerman & Iron Fist::

I'd bring these 2 back. Its time for the famous hired heroes to come back. This time I'd set them up in LA. The series will travel the world and introduce new threats. I'd play it more comical adventure as Jessica Jones isn't pleased her hubby is back in the Hero Business game with Danny.

I'd throw some heavy hitters. Like the Rhino's estranged wife comes in and claims he's not following a court order to stay away. So both guys gotta make him stay away.

I'd throw some twists and turns into the series and have a shocker that Danny Rand has a son.


Quasar :

My version of Quasar would bear no resembelance to the hero that recently died. In fact my Quasar is a young teen-age hero who finds these alien bands that comes with a gift & curse. He can't remove them but he's gotta keep it all a secret from the shadowary Government agency and SHIELD that follows him as well as his parents. Also I'd limit that the Bands can allow him to change into the background of something to hide ( the bands would dissapear into his arms to hide while he's in public ) allow him to fly and shoot energy.

Dr.Strange

With this I'd do a shocking thing. I'd kill Dr.Strange in a way. But not....

In my story-arc I'd have Dr.Strange's enemies teamup and seemingly destroy him on the mystic plane. His soul however lives on and needs to find a human body willing to keep it around.

He finds his nephew Alexander Strange asleep in his apartment dorm and decides he needs to share the body with him. His nephew is a failing medical student so Stephan Strange thinks he could help him and help find a way back to his body.

The funny thing is what happens when 2 people share a body ? Plus how does a new guy learn to be Dr.Strange: Sorcerer Supreme ?

Paploo the Ewok
10-21-2006, 01:10 PM
...any way you wanted, which would you pick?

Gail

I'd write a New Mutants Comic.

Or, I'd write a Rogue miniseries.

stealthwise
10-21-2006, 01:39 PM
I think a War Machine series, where the man in the suit is a new character, an older man with a heart condition who can't really handle the strain, yet still acts as a hero until his eventual demise, would be kind of neat.

Tobias March
10-21-2006, 07:46 PM
X-Men: Charlie's Angles with Storm, Psylocke and Shadowcat....


Wasn't there a Dr. Strange Charlie's Angels pitch some years ago? I think Clea was supposed to be one of them, but I'm not sure who the others were. I'm convinced I've seen concept art for it.

But I guess that Mike Carey book about Witches put paid to that. Still if Modok's 11 is going ahead, I don't see why we can't have more parody mini-series.

How about The Life and Death of Wonderman playing on that old British show Reginald Perrin

Red Jack
10-21-2006, 07:51 PM
Dr.Strange

With this I'd do a shocking thing. I'd kill Dr.Strange in a way. But not....

In my story-arc I'd have Dr.Strange's enemies teamup and seemingly destroy him on the mystic plane. His soul however lives on and needs to find a human body willing to keep it around.

He finds his nephew Alexander Strange asleep in his apartment dorm and decides he needs to share the body with him. His nephew is a failing medical student so Stephan Strange thinks he could help him and help find a way back to his body.

The funny thing is what happens when 2 people share a body ? Plus how does a new guy learn to be Dr.Strange: Sorcerer Supreme ?

Brother Voodooish.

PatrickG
10-21-2006, 07:56 PM
Firestormish...

heystacy
10-21-2006, 09:16 PM
I wouldn't mind writing X-Factor. That would be awesome.

Dr. Killbydeath
10-21-2006, 09:51 PM
I would write New X-men and start by NOT killing every character. I would also make the series enjoyable by giving the team some downtime (which is really when the X-men shine).

Captain_Video
10-21-2006, 11:11 PM
Another pitch comes to mind.

Why does Dr Doom wear a mini skirt ?

This would be a four issue prestige format series in which we find out the bizarre and unsettling truth behind the Dr Doom mini skirt, which we discover is some kind of grim tribute to a former flame from his college days, incorporating her dress sense into his idealised persona..

But which Marvel femme stole Dooms heart ?

Thats right...


Gwen Stacy.

( it makes about as much sense as Norman Osborn at least ).

Gilda Dent
10-21-2006, 11:28 PM
I would think that it would be obvious that I would be perfect for Black Goliath.

Why? Why an ill-concieved 30 year old book that was cancelled after 5 dreary issues?

It's ideal. I could do a blind round-robin story with a group of average 10-year-olds until I had enough to fill 22 pages and still produce something to match the original. Make it a bright group of ten-year-olds and we'd have something better than the original.

Basically, I think I'd look good by comparison.

Gilda

stealthwise
10-21-2006, 11:33 PM
POWER PACK!

Well... I never read the original, so I'd pull a Nextwave and destroy the characters in the name of dick and fart jokes.

Dr. Killbydeath
10-22-2006, 12:00 AM
If I could write Wolverine, I'd just max out his healing factor. He'd get the shit kicked out of him every issue. First up would be Wolverine vs Thor. Then Sentry. Then Old School Juggernaut. Then Cable.

batturtle
11-07-2006, 01:43 AM
I'd write an Alpha Flight comic where-in the characters actually use 'eh' correctly.